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Catfish
10-04-17, 03:18 PM
Libya is a wonderful tourist region, if they only stow away the corpses (Boris Johnson)
But the best scene was when this letter fell from the wall.
May's speech, a country where everyone who works hard has the same chance? England?
This is the american dream. Not that of a class society, where the people's education and origin is being measured by their accent, with king and queen, with a house of commons and a house of "lords".
Who do they think they are kidding? :o
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That was beautiful.
If someone had written all that for a political satire they'd have had it rejected for being too ridiculous.
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/theresa-may-f-off.gif
I wouldn't count Boris out of the race just yet though, because...honestly, right now, there doesn't appear to be anyone else making a move. The Moog might, but I doubt it.
Jimbuna
10-05-17, 09:10 AM
Libya is a wonderful tourist region, if they only stow away the corpses (Boris Johnson)
But the best scene was when this letter fell from the wall.
May's speech, a country where everyone who works hard has the same chance? England?
This is the american dream. Not that of a class society, where the people's education and origin is being measured by their accent, with king and queen, with a house of commons and a house of "lords".
Who do they think they are kidding? :o
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True that :yep:
That was beautiful.
If someone had written all that for a political satire they'd have had it rejected for being too ridiculous.
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/theresa-may-f-off.gif
I wouldn't count Boris out of the race just yet though, because...honestly, right now, there doesn't appear to be anyone else making a move. The Moog might, but I doubt it.
ATM the job is seen as the poison chalice. Better to sit back and wait whilst May attempts to do the nigh on impossible and carry the blame if and when things go wrong.
That is the one thing I admire about her, she is willing to make the effort whilst others take the easy route and simply sit back. Reminds me of vultures circling overhead whilst a wounded animal suffers on the ground below.
An Australian take on the last year in UK politics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaW5jZlvKoE
On UK defence matters:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41511790
That's the Navy cannibalising itself, then.
Mike.
Hey Grant Shapps you tosspot of a git face you failed. :O: :O: :har: :har:
France and Germany 'deal blow' to Theresa May's Brexit transition deal plans
France and Germany will reportedly not discuss a transition deal until the UK's divorce bill and EU citizens rights are settled.http://news.sky.com/story/france-and-germany-deal-blow-to-theresa-mays-brexit-transition-deal-plans-11070500
No point telling me what I already know, I came to that conclusion weeks ago.
Jimbuna
10-07-17, 06:58 AM
Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has urged colleagues to "get behind" the PM because "people are fed up with this malarkey".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41534552
It's getting pretty hard to detect when he's in backstabbing mode.
Jimbuna
10-07-17, 06:59 AM
http://news.sky.com/story/france-and-germany-deal-blow-to-theresa-mays-brexit-transition-deal-plans-11070500
No point telling me what I already know, I came to that conclusion weeks ago.
Well, that's simply another step toward walking away altogether.
Boris Johnson tells Tories to 'get behind' Theresa Mayhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41534552
This coming from the man who had to be made to stand up by Rudd at the conference! :hmmm:
Boring how about this..
Boris Johnson tells Tories to 'get behind' Theresa May and throw custard pies at Grant Shapps Now that is a headline. :DL
Moving on the Green Party is having their conference this week, can't wait for the big speech.
Caroline Lucas..Blah blah blah and now over to my co leader
Jonathan Bartley..Blah blah blah and now over to my co leader
Caroline Lucas..Blah blah blah and now over to my co leader
Jonathan Bartley..Blah blah blah and now over to my co leader
And so on..:haha:
More defence matters from the "Save the Royal Navy" site:
http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/further-cuts-to-the-fleet-in-the-year-of-the-royal-navy/
One thing I did find interesting was the little tid bit that back in 2010 Osbourne dumped the financing responsibility for the Trident replacement programme directly in to the MoD Budget rather than what it had been before - part of the Treasury's.:hmmm:
Going back to politics, here's an article from Scottish MSP Murdo Fraser (Ruth Davidson's rival during the last SCon leadership contest):
Liberal Unionism – a model for Scottish Conservatives? (https://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2017/09/murdo-fraser-liberal-unionism-a-model-for-scottish-conservatives.html)
In comments which would be considered extraordinary were they to be made today by someone sitting on the Conservative benches of the House of Commons, the Scottish Unionist MP (and celebrated author), John Buchan, declared in 1932: “Every Scotsman should be a Scottish Nationalist”.
Amongst Scottish Unionists of the time, Buchan was by no means alone in promoting Scottish identity, and championing the notion of a Scottish Parliament within the United Kingdom.
Although that never became the official Party position, throughout much of the 20th Century there was not the stark dividing line between nationalism and unionism that we see today.Indeed, at the Paisley By-election of 1948, the Unionists agreed not to field an official candidate but instead to support the Independent Nationalist, John MacCormick, against Labour.
What the writer David Torrance describes as “nationalist unionism” was at the core of the Scottish Unionists’ broad appeal.
As I believe I've written before, the SUP was the SNP of it's day but was pro- rather than anti-UK.
I wonder how the Tory rank and file in England would react when it finally penetrates their skulls that Scottish Tories aren't exactly the same as English ones? SCons are primarily Unionists and Conservatives second, after all.:hmmm:
Mike.
Jimbuna
10-07-17, 10:09 AM
Meanwhile, over in Wales...
Plaid Cymru to end Labour Welsh Government co-operation deal
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41526435
Meanwhile, over in Wales...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41526435
UKIP called on Plaid Cymru to join with it in a vote of no confidence in the Welsh Government. :huh: :roll: :haha:
That's like saying old Jezzer would be PM if he gave Trump a big kiss. Old Jezzer do that...Never.
Bleiente
10-07-17, 06:37 PM
Es ist vorbei - klein britanien hat nix mehr zu sagen. das ist nur noch ein dorf. :salute:
Carwyn Jones - a Nationalist Unionist in action. Just like the DUP, UUP and SLab (when it functioned - Donald Dewar et al.) and the SCons (formerly known as the SUP).....
As far as I'm aware there's never been an out and out Unionist Party in England.
Mike.
Carwyn Jones - a Nationalist Unionist in action. Just like the DUP, UUP and SLab (when it functioned - Donald Dewar et al.) and the SCons (formerly known as the SUP).....
As far as I'm aware there's never been an out and out Unionist Party in England.
Mike.
The only thing that sort of falls in that frame but not a full on was the Liberal Unionist 1886-1912.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Unionist_Party
Jimbuna
10-08-17, 07:23 AM
Es ist vorbei - klein britanien hat nix mehr zu sagen. das ist nur noch ein dorf. :salute:
Your second pop at the UK in recent posts so don't cry fowl if you disagree with any return flak.
This is the second time in recent weeks I have offered you this advice.
Jimbuna
10-08-17, 07:24 AM
Theresa May has said she is "pretty resilient" and it is not her style to "hide from a challenge" despite a mishap-strewn party conference speech.
The prime minister told the Sunday Times: "I am a very determined person. I am not someone who gives up."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41541208
I'm beginning to see comparisons with that of Thatcher.
The only thing that sort of falls in that frame but not a full on was the Liberal Unionist 1886-1912.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Unionist_Party
Interesting, I see that George Goschen, 1st Viscount Goschen was part of that lot.
He was responsible for the Goschen formula which preceeded Barnett: LINK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goschen_formula).
Also interesting to see that, like the SUP, the Liberal Unionists opposed Irish Home Rule and it was the 1801 Union with Ireland that they were defending rather than the 1707 Anglo-Scottish one.
Moving back to the present, here's Ruth Davidson's latest interview:
Davidson – I can’t be Tory leader at present, and I’m not looking past 2021: LINK (https://www.conservativehome.com/video/2017/10/watch-davidson-i-cant-be-tory-leader-at-present-and-im-not-looking-past-2021.html).
I caught the back end of Sunday Politics and one of the talking heads mentioned that the SCons have slipped behind SLab to third place in recent Scotland-only polls. This has been due to the SNP cooling off it's rhetoric about independence and concentrating on domestic matters.
Mike.
Es ist vorbei - klein britanien hat nix mehr zu sagen. das ist nur noch ein dorf. :salute:
Translation -
It's over - small britanien has more to say nothing. This is only a village
Really! :huh:
Well thank you many much for that bit of info and I will let the Department for eduction know that so they can get all the schools to update their text books, replace the great British Island for the great British village. Many thanks from the people of the UK. :)
The Government has been told it has less than six months to strike a Brexit deal in order to prevent an exodus from the City of London.
RBS chairman Sir Howard Davies warned there is now a "very, very, very tight" time frame for ministers to agree the terms of a transitional Brexit agreement with the EU, if it hopes to stop major finance firms moving jobs abroad.http://news.sky.com/story/rbs-chair-sir-howard-davies-six-months-to-avoid-city-jobs-exodus-11072466
Same old BS that I having been hearing in the last 20 odd years now. The regulators in this country are spineless toothless clawless and the banks know it. Even when I see people who are working for the regulators in interviews they are not happy at the weak will powerless situation.
Jimbuna
10-09-17, 03:32 AM
Tell em they can't take the peoples money with them.
Tell em they can't take the peoples money with them.
Just a idle threat, they know they can get away with it here in the UK and Ireland. America in the last few years has now clamped down on the sleazy actions of banks. About time we did as well.
Greens 'are changing the debate', co-leader tells members
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41545392
It "will be the most influential" party in 21st Century politics
Let me read that again.....:hmmm: :doh: :haha: :har:
Theresa May: 'We can prove Brexit doomsayers wrong'http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41546701
What rubbish, Copy and paste EU laws are not UK laws. All that I can see unfolding is us staying in by the back door while you try to sell it we have left, what rot.
Es ist vorbei - klein britanien hat nix mehr zu sagen. das ist nur noch ein dorf. :salute:
Wir verstehen keine Worte :03:
Biggest piece of news to come out of the SNP Conference in Glasgow:
Changes to Scottish income tax bands considered (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41560067)
Relevant tid-bit:
Instead, last year's budget saw ministers opt to make relatively minor changes by not raising the point at which people start to pay the 40p rate of income tax on their salaries, as happened elsewhere in the UK.
BBC Scotland's political editor, Brian Taylor, said he had been told that ministers were now looking seriously at changing the tax bands for the coming year.
He said: "That might involve lowering the income level at which you move into higher rates, but it could also mean entirely new bands in Scotland."
He said ministers were also examining the possibility of increasing taxes for the highest earners, but because Scotland has so few of those it is thought the move would bring in relatively little income.
And he said the new plans were likely to protect the lowest earners, but might mean those on middle incomes paying "a bit more".
What are the Scottish income tax rates and bands?
Personal Allowance for those earning up to £11,500 - 0%
Basic rate for those earning between £11,501 and £43,000 - 20%
Higher rate for those earning between £43,001 and £150,000 - 40%
Additional rate for those earning more than £150,000- 45%
In reality I think it's becoming obvious that in order to fund Scotland's public services, everyone needs to be prepared to pay more. I don't have the most recent figures, but I believe that roughly half of those who are currently employed in Scotland aren't earning enough to pay Income Tax under the current banding system. The only way around that is to not only change the bands for the middle income earners, but to lower the Personal Allowance level from £11,500 as well, possibly all the way down to £8-9K per annum being tax-free. As Brian Taylor writes, there aren't enough high earners for a SLab style "soak the rich scheme" to be viable, so they can't be milked. That means the lowest earners are going to have to start coughing up.
Whether the SNP have the balls to do that, I doubt.
Mike.:hmmm:
Correction, roughly one quarter of working Scots don't earn enough to pay income tax:
Earnings in Scotland 2016 (http://www.parliament.scot/ResearchBriefingsAndFactsheets/S5/SB_16-92_Earnings_in_Scotland_2016.pdf).
Page 5.
Derived from ONS data HERE (https://www.ons.gov.uk/releases/annualsurveyofhoursandearningspensiontables2015pro visionalresults/releases/annualsurveyofhoursandearningsintheukprovisional20 16andrevised2015).
Mike.
Catfish
10-09-17, 03:04 PM
Found this quite intersting "Europe: Scotland's dilemma"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyKCwUBB86M
Catfish
10-10-17, 02:12 PM
Have been watching alot of more or less biased documentaries about the reasons for and against brexit; and what especially Johnson and Farage said there was for it. I almost went through the roof when i had to listen to Farage's bovine scatology, from racist to sexist to just cheap provocation. He is an exceptionally gifted show-off; god i swear i had no idea. Those bigmouths having their say just because they are louder and just keep talking over others, lacking entirely educated and social behaviour never let their position be discussed. Stir up the people and quickly leave when their bluff is being called. No expertise, no education, just populistic rats.
I wonder if any politician can ever be made legally liable for openly and publicly belying the people.
While the people have all the facts at hand, and can inform themselves through more trustworthy sources, they obviously do not care at all. They want to believe, and search for reasons supporting their own opinion.
Well this is obviously not alone a UK problem :D
Mrs May has said that "the ball is in their court", but nothing could be more far fetched, or plain wrong. The EU has said from day one that they will not discuss anything about trade or single market before a divorce bill has been settled. Since a year politics in England wobble back and forth, always complaining and accusing the EU not to react to Englands's (not the UK's!) demand of settling a deal, before themselves fulfilling the legal procedere and treaty as it has been signed by the UK itself.
Quitter Farage forgot to mention this? Oops.
The real UK government should strive to know what the EU were thinking, not what Brexiteers hoped the EU were thinking.
I am of the opinion that the divorce will economically hurt Great Britain more than France or Germany, or the whole EU. Only 26 percent of the people in Germany think that brexit will hurt them at all, let alone the rest of the EU.
Also, since there does not seem to be a real plan in the UK about how to go on, a lot of europeans prepare for a real hard brexit in a worst case scenario. No deal, no trade treaties, and so they are reluctant and try to save as much as possible.
But the worst is the social divorce, resulting in scientific programs stopped, and less cooperation in all fields. Well we can see it all over the world, people are so dumb :dead:
Sorry. maybe i should better go out and fell a tree or something. Or stop watching "politicians" in talk shows :nope:
The conference season is over and the mindless mob is safely back in the HoC and here we go it's PMQ time..
May Vs Corbyn
Corbyn pie high on the cult of Corbyn...Oh Jeremy. :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkaW0cPDagM
May trying to put her speech behind her along with that cough and prankster. :roll:
DING DING here we go..
And that's a rap...
May 0 - Corbyn 1
May was clearly not on form when you start going on about the last Labour Government and repeating yourself. How long have the Tories been in power? 6,7,8 years oh come on most people can not recall six months ago so what is the point! :doh:
Corbyn gave her a few good verbal punches but yet again failed to deliver the knock out blow, man up jezzer show you are leadership material.
EU citizens' uncertain Brexit status 'intolerable' - CBI boss
The head of the CBI warns the UK's 'health and wealth' will suffer if Brexit results in EU nationals having to leave.http://news.sky.com/story/eu-citizens-uncertain-brexit-status-intolerable-cbi-boss-11076225
Not really, the Tories would abolish benefits and make the unemployed work on the farms and coffee shops.
Moving on..
No energy bill price cap this winter, Ofgem sayshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41578950
You had to be a dipstick not to have seen that, winter is the time these pigs make most of their money. Can't see the Tories rushing this one though Parliament any time soon.
The EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier says there has not been enough progress to move to the next stage of Brexit talks as the UK wants.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41585430
And what do we get from the UK Government? Everything is going well and we are on course for a smooth transition. What a load of guff, get this sham out and get Labour in. Yes I did say Labour, this bloody lot are clearly stringing the country along while they make big bucks behind our backs.
And if Jezzer's lot muff it get the next long in and so on.
Latest Scottish Westminster voting intention:
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/918813102682071040
Scottish Westminster voting intention:
SNP: 40% (+3)
LAB: 30% (+3)
CON: 23% (-6)
LDEM: 5% (-2)
via @YouGov (https://twitter.com/YouGov), 02 - 05 OctSLab back in second place but the SNP still in the lead.
Jim won't like it, but it looks like a Corbyn UKLab government appeals to much of SLab's former support in Scotland.:hmmm:
In Brexit news, apparently there are secret reports going about that show both Scotland and the North East of England will be the most damaged economically by Brexit:
http://www.thenational.scot/news/15595115.UK_refuses_to_confirm_or_deny_existence_o f_report_which_shows_devastating_impact_of_Brexit_ on_Scotland/?ref=twtrec
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/13/david-davis-faces-legal-threat-over-secret-reports-on-brexit-impact
Mike.
As the EU talks go no where and both sides will not back down and Brexit falls apart the slug may make a return!
Having stood down from Parliament at the General Election, Mr Osborne said he is now concentrating on his newspaper job, as well as his other roles advising asset management firm BlackRock and a professorship at California's Stanford University.
But, leaving the path open for a return to politics, he added: "I have a question in my own mind, which is 'do I really want to go back?'http://news.sky.com/story/osborne-says-tories-need-to-confront-theresa-mays-leadership-11078733
I would wager he would only if he could win a safe seat and the party swung behind him.
Jean-Claude Juncker on Brexit bill: 'They have to pay'
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-juncker/they-have-to-pay-eus-juncker-says-of-britain-idUKKBN1CI12G
I am not a fan of Nigel Farage but he said this would happen so why is Mrs May not understanding this, mad man juncker spells it out and she goes on her merry way with her merry men as nothing had been said. :doh:
British farmers would produce more food themselves in the event of the UK leaving the EU without a trade deal, a cabinet minister has suggested.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41627341
I wonder if this is the Tory master plan to bring about the end of the welfare system? :hmmm:
Unemployed made to work on the farm in chain gangs. :o
Think it will not happen, think again as past history has shown us.
UKIP leader Bolton backs zero net migration to stop 'swamp' on services
Henry Bolton says zero net migration is a "very difficult target" but the UK should aim to achieve it in the "next few years".http://news.sky.com/story/ukip-leader-bolton-backs-zero-net-migration-to-stop-swamp-on-services-11082341
UKIP should join the Tories and push for the unemployed to work on the farm in chain gangs for their pocket money.
Old Jezzer would have something to sink his teeth into with the SNP, Libs and Greens. :03:
Theresa May's Government is doing bad job of negotiating Brexit according to two-thirds of voters, YouGov polls findshttps://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/twothirds-of-voters-think-theresa-mays-government-is-doing-bad-job-of-negotiating-brexit-yougov-a3658126.html
Really?
I had them down doing sod all and having no idea what so ever, hey I may have got it wrong and on that note beer for me. :)
Theresa May will make an unannounced trip to Brussels today to meet the key players negotiating Britain's exit from the EU.http://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-to-make-surprise-brussels-trip-for-brexit-meeting-11083247
Are you sure about that?
If I know you can bet your pint of beer the EU also knows, after all the big give away its in today's news and yesterday's as well.
Old Jezzer could be standing in your safe Labour seat at the next general election.
Jeremy Corbyn’s current seat in Parliament is to be abolished under revised boundary plans being published tomorrow, the Evening Standard can reveal.
His constituency of Islington North will cease to exist if the Boundary Commission proposals go ahead - triggering musical chairs as he and other top Labour figures scramble for seats in the Commons.https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyns-islington-north-seat-to-be-abolished-in-boundary-shakeup-a3659846.html
Maybe old Jezzer should be told about where Jim is. :03:
Theresa May would have kept Tory majority under boundaries plan
Opposition parties are likely to mount fierce resistance to proposals to redraw the UK's constituencies and cut the number of MPs.http://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-would-have-kept-tory-majority-under-boundaries-plan-11084575
Far too many MP's it should be cut to 200-300 and no more.
Theresa May could have retained her House of Commons majority if June's snap General Election had been fought on a proposed shake-up of MPs' constituencies. Bet she wished she did that first before calling the election.
May Vs Corbyn
PMQ's time..
Mrs May wearing a bloody great big dog collar, maybe she's trying to intimidate old Jezzer? :hmmm:
Mrs May leaning forward a lot doing a old school mom with a big stick lecture. Must be working as old Jezzer has not hardly attacked her over University Credit. Oh wait she has just slipped up saying "Labour's great recession" in connection of the last big world wide recession. Well I never knew Labour was behind it, news to me.
Over all both sides failed to land the big blows with their lightweight boxing.
May 0 - Corbyn 0
What we need is this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8buMXoif98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4g0a7LaUUI
More... Spitting Image
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TFx9u1t1LY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeoMef43tjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp6SwvJak2Y
Moonlight
10-18-17, 02:54 PM
May Vs Corbyn
PMQ's time..
Mrs May wearing a bloody great big dog collar, maybe she's trying to intimidate old Jezzer? :hmmm:
Mrs May leaning forward a lot doing a old school mom with a big stick lecture. Must be working as old Jezzer has not hardly attacked her over University Credit. Oh wait she has just slipped up saying "Labour's great recession" in connection of the last big world wide recession. Well I never knew Labour was behind it, news to me.
Over all both sides failed to land the big blows with their lightweight boxing.
May 0 - Corbyn 0
It's strange to see some one without a political background giving out their version of how the latest PMQS score went in the HOC, perhaps a political science degree would help you get the basic political thrusts, parries and ripostes right at least once in a while Steed.
Just remember old boy that this isn't a bloody game they're playing in the house of Westminster, what goes on in there affects millions of citizens and as long as the Maybot realizes that she isn't always up against a cabbage she'll have far fewer bad days than the opposition benches have given her today.
Harry Cole, Westminster Correspondent for the Sun newspaper.
Cole attended Tonbridge School,before reading Politics at the University of Edinburgh. He was Vice-Chairman/Treasurer of the Edinburgh University Conservative Association and Vice-President of Scottish Conservative Future. Cole wrote the ToryBear blog, focusing on Conservative student politics, before becoming the News Editor of the Guido Fawkes blog.
FINAL SCORE: Theresa May 1 – 5 Jeremy Corbyn
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4712695/how-much-more-of-the-malfunctioning-may-bot-will-tory-backbenchers-will-be-willing-to-sit-quietly-through/
UK lawmakers vent anger at May's fragile government over welfare reformhttp://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-politics/uk-lawmakers-vent-anger-at-mays-fragile-government-over-welfare-reform-idUKKBN1CN1FF
Another mess by this government.
Skybird
10-19-17, 06:08 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4994802/Germany-wants-comprehensive-free-trade-deal-UK.html
Berlin's boost for Brexit: Leaked document reveals that Germany wants a 'comprehensive free trade' deal with Britain.
Beware, its the Daily Mail. So I am not certain whether this is true, or just wishful thinking.
^I will treat that with a pinch of salt.
Far too many MP's it should be cut to 200-300 and no more.
Really? I wish we had that kind of representation here. IIRC it's around 700k people per congressman now. That's a far cry from the 30K minimum mandated by Article 1 of the Constitution.
Lord Mandelson: Labour election prospects 'very strong'http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41693846
WOW...I'm off to the bookies to place my bet.
'Despondent' Theresa May 'begged for help' at Brexit dinner with Jean-Claude Juncker, leaked account claimshttps://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-may-was-despondent-and-begged-for-help-at-brexit-dinner-with-jeanclaude-juncker-leaked-a3665341.html
Well if that is true then that's a rap, unless this is that slug Osborne at it again? :hmmm:
EDIT UPDATE -
And now this..
European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has denied leaking an account of his working dinner with Theresa May, saying he is "really surprised" at what's been reported.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41720244
The plot thickens or should I just reach for my tub of slug pellets now.
Mayor Sadiq Khan has gone power crazy.
T-Charge: New London traffic charge comes into force
Drivers of older, more polluting vehicles now have to pay almost twice as much to drive in central London.
Mayor Sadiq Khan's £10 T-Charge, which mainly applies to diesel and petrol vehicles registered before 2006, has come into force.
It covers the same area as the existing congestion charge zone, bumping up the cost to £21.50 for those affected.
Opponents said the scheme would "disproportionately penalise London's poorest drivers".
What about company's with hundreds of vans driving around London? They must be paying even more, sorry a lot more now which will hit their customers. Has this crossed his mind?
Catfish
10-24-17, 01:31 PM
No, it is not even about Trump, or only some seconds; but i think the rest is hilarious on its own
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFiwR9H4wXU
^Can not view blocked talk about crass, a UK program made in the UK and I live in the UK and its blocked as to suggest you are not allowed because you are not British!
Donald Tusk: EU must stay united or face Brexit 'defeat'
The EU will be "defeated" in Brexit negotiations unless it maintains absolute unity, European Council president Donald Tusk has said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41733429
If he is suggesting Brexit could bring down the EU I find that far fetched. :rolleyes:
May Vs Corbyn PMQ's
Well I be for the second week running the winner was old Jezzer again and doing a bit better. PM May could not pull off the mud slinging this week as some one forgot to give her a barrel of sticky mud. :03:
May 0 - Corbyn 3
Theresa May earns £10,000 a year renting out London flathttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41771169
Mrs May if you want to give me some of that dosh feel free and I may vote for you.
Jimbuna
10-27-17, 09:39 AM
Too late, I've already moved in :smug:
Too late, I've already moved in :smug:
Typical bloody Northerner. :O:
Moving on..
Billions of euros of British taxpayers' money could remain locked into an EU bank for more than thirty years after Brexit, the UK has been warned.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41774817
Charming.
Jimbuna
10-28-17, 08:07 AM
Simply adds weight to the theory a growing number of Brits hold...it is all about money, ours not theirs.
Hammond's £20bn black hole may mean it's time to scrap deficit target, says IFShttp://news.sky.com/story/hammonds-20bn-black-hole-may-mean-its-time-to-scrap-deficit-target-says-ifs-11105522
As I understand it the Government has scrapped the target because they said they will be borrowing more over the years. :hmmm:
UKIP suffers another blow at local level.
Seven Great Yarmouth UKIP councillors defect to Tories
A group of UKIP councillors have defected to the Conservative Party to give the Tories control of a council.
Seven of the 12 UKIP councillors on Great Yarmouth Borough Council have crossed the divide, giving the Tories 21 out of the 39 council seats.
One of the seven movers, Kay Grey, said that after the EU referendum "many voters feel this is UKIP's job done".http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-41808879
Wonder what their new leader thinks of this. :hmmm:
Jimbuna
10-31-17, 02:46 PM
Sounds like rats leaving a sinking ship.
May Vs Corbyn
PMQ's time..
Jezer feeling good will he finally smash the guts out of that useless PM or will she hit back giving Jezzer a good old spanking?
More to follow
Nice one Dennis Skinner, that's the way to do it Jezzer.
PM May faltering a bit with her words over TAX.
Jezzer is prodding and PM May has woken up.
Oh dear PM May is running out of steam and Jezzer smells victory, here it comes..
Oh my PM May has slipped up saying its all Labour's fault we have to pay back countries world wide. What a load of rubbish, don't tell me the Tories don't borrow money from around the world.
Well I be old Jezzer has won for the third PMQ's running!
May 0 - Jezzer 1
The Electoral Commission says it is investigating whether ex-UKIP donor Arron Banks broke donation rules during the EU referendum.
The probe will look at whether the Leave.EU chairman broke the rules over donations or loans made to campaigners.
It will also look at Better for the Country Ltd, a company of which Mr Banks is a registered director.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41829107
EDITED - BOLD
Mr Banks said that a judge-led inquiry was needed "to clear this nonsense up once and for all" after he handed over a big bag of money containing one million pounds :03:
Jimbuna
11-01-17, 09:04 AM
Having watched PMQ's I'd have to disagree.
Everything Coprbyn threw at may was counter-punched with good effect and the reaction of either sides backbenches tended to add weight to the toory side.
All Corbyns magical cures amount to one thing....extra borrowing and no suggestions as to who and how it will be repaid.
Having watched PMQ's I'd have to disagree.
Everything Coprbyn threw at may was counter-punched with good effect and the reaction of either sides backbenches tended to add weight to the toory side.
All Corbyns magical cures amount to one thing....extra borrowing and no suggestions as to who and how it will be repaid.
PM May keeps using the same old statements which tells me she and her party are running out of steam. How many more times are we going to hear "the last labour government" being used, for cripes sake that was over seven years ago! The country delivered a message to the Tories get your act together at the last general election.
I am not saying old Jezzer is the answer but he could win on the grounds the country is fed up with the in fighting in the Tory party and making a right mess of Brexit. When PM May came out with that stupid comment Labour borrow around the world come on Tories borrow as well and that is a point handed to Jezzer.
PM May own robotic auto answers to old Jezzer are boring the voter. A friend of mind is a hard line Tory and he tells me Mrs May is on course as it stands to loose the next general election. I asked who can replace her? His answer none of that lot on the front bench, what of Boris I ask, answer I get, you are kidding right.
I see the same on the Labour front benches, seems to me both party's are in trouble and both know it. Yes it could be possible from now to the next general election one of them is going to take the big gamble which could pay off.
Remember the voter votes out the government not vote them in.
I am a swing and some times a non voter who has no loyalty to any party. Everyone should be the same, that would make things more interesting.
London to set Northern Ireland budget as direct rule loomshttp://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-nireland-politics/london-to-set-northern-ireland-budget-as-direct-rule-looms-idUKKBN1D14K1
Not looking good for NI. Get your act together or that useless lot at London will step in bogging it up for NI. :03:
Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon has resigned, saying his behaviour may have "fallen short" of the standards expected by the UK military.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41838682
Dirty old man touching Julia Hartley-Brewer's knee! :o
15 years ago! :o
This has to be the dumbest resignation ever or the skeleton's in Fallon's cupboard are coming out. :hmmm:
Dish the dirt at Westminster the new game show with Jim as your host.
em2nought
11-02-17, 02:22 AM
What are you blokes smokin'? :D
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4792434/british-isis-jihadis-return-syria-uk-council-homes/
Eichhörnchen
11-02-17, 04:12 AM
So terrorism does pay :)
For the first time in more than 10 years the Bank of England has raised interest rates.
The official bank rate has been lifted from 0.25% to 0.5%, the first increase since July 2007.http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41846330
Jim has a big grin on his face. :D
Is this good news? No, the economy is still bouncing along on the floor and with this rise bills will go up and with inflation at 3% savers will not see anything positive. Worst still the real reason for the rise the BoE was very worried about public borrowing and as pointed out from experts this rise now allows the BoE to put it back to where it was if the economy goes no where.
Jimbuna
11-02-17, 08:19 AM
PM May keeps using the same old statements which tells me she and her party are running out of steam. How many more times are we going to hear "the last labour government" being used, for cripes sake that was over seven years ago! The country delivered a message to the Tories get your act together at the last general election.
I am not saying old Jezzer is the answer but he could win on the grounds the country is fed up with the in fighting in the Tory party and making a right mess of Brexit. When PM May came out with that stupid comment Labour borrow around the world come on Tories borrow as well and that is a point handed to Jezzer.
PM May own robotic auto answers to old Jezzer are boring the voter. A friend of mind is a hard line Tory and he tells me Mrs May is on course as it stands to loose the next general election. I asked who can replace her? His answer none of that lot on the front bench, what of Boris I ask, answer I get, you are kidding right.
I see the same on the Labour front benches, seems to me both party's are in trouble and both know it. Yes it could be possible from now to the next general election one of them is going to take the big gamble which could pay off.
Remember the voter votes out the government not vote them in.
I am a swing and some times a non voter who has no loyalty to any party. Everyone should be the same, that would make things more interesting.
So how long ago has it been since we last saw a left wing Labour government?
Remember, I said 'left wing'
Jimbuna
11-02-17, 08:20 AM
What are you blokes smokin'? :D
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4792434/british-isis-jihadis-return-syria-uk-council-homes/
'Operation Constrain' indeed....more like 'Operation Capitulation' :nope:
Jimbuna
11-02-17, 08:22 AM
Jim has a big grin on his face. :D
You bet, spent too many years bringing up family and paying inflated interest rates on a mortgage.
Time to reap the benefits of retirement and hard earned investments :smug:
So how long ago has it been since we last saw a left wing Labour government?
Remember, I said 'left wing'
1970's with sky high rubbish on the streets, three day working week and lots of power cuts and strikes. OK, bad but the good news with the BBC strikes and power cuts that load of rubbish was off the air. Point taken jim, you and I lived though it but the young today have no understanding or even know what it was like. If old Jezzer wins it will be that lot who vote the Tories out.
HSBC should be investigated for "possible criminal complicity" in connection with corruption allegations in South Africa, a UK peer has said.http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41835937
What is the point? These corrupt pigs are on a win win and what could happen another silly fine? Yea that will show them...NOT.
Jimbuna
11-02-17, 11:22 AM
Gavin Williamson replaces Michael Fallon as defence secretary.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41844320
WESTMINSTER PERVERTS?
Suspended Labour MP Kelvin Hopkins has said he "absolutely and categorically" denies claims of sexual harassment.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41866351
MP Charlie Elphicke has been suspended by the Conservatives after "serious allegations" that have been referred to the police, the party has said.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41866970
No 10 has insisted Andrea Leadsom did not call for Sir Michael Fallon to be sacked from the cabinet amid reports she complained about his conduct.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41854582
Jimbuna
11-04-17, 08:58 AM
Sexual harassment claims are 'no witch hunt', says Harman.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41870120
Sexual harassment claims are 'no witch hunt', says Harman.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41870120
Listening to the radio last night and the presenter said what that lot have been getting up to at Westminster has been going on for many many many years. Corruption, sex, drugs, backstabbing and all the rest.
And now the SNP are in the hot seat.
Scottish childcare minister Mark McDonald has resigned after allegations regarding his private life.
In a statement released on Saturday, the MSP for Aberdeen Donside apologised "unreservedly to anyone I have upset
or who might have found my behaviour inappropriate".http://news.sky.com/story/scottish-minister-mark-mcdonald-resigns-overinappropriate-behaviour-11113831
SEXGATE ROCKS WESTMINSTER
Theresa May's most senior minister has denied a claim that police found pornography on his computer during a raid on his Westminster office in 2008.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41874026
The sexual harassment of women "goes on all the time" at the Welsh assembly, former AMs have claimed.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41872533
A Labour MSP has said she was sexually assaulted by a senior male colleague at a party.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41876121
LIVE: Westminster sex harassment scandal deepenshttp://news.sky.com/story/live-westminster-sex-harassment-scandal-deepens-11114473
BACK IN 2009 WESTMINSTER BOUGHT YOU THE EXPENSES SCANDAL NOW IN 2017 THE LONG AWAITED SEQUEL THE PRESS WILL MILK TO DEATH!
Jimbuna
11-05-17, 09:26 AM
Nobody ever sexually assaulted me during any of my dozens of visits to Westminster :hmmm:
Nobody ever sexually assaulted me during any of my dozens of visits to Westminster :hmmm:
Well you were wearing..
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51IO9k1iDML._SY355_.jpg
That cheap stuff would drive away anyone. :) :03:
Just be curious...is the Brexit now settled or is any (major) party/organization working (in the UK) in the direction of un-Brexiting ;) ?
Just be curious...is the Brexit now settled or is any (major) party/organization working (in the UK) in the direction of un-Brexiting ;) ?
No far from it, another year and a bit of talks that are going no where.
Conservative party is in government with the DUP and are divided. Labour party in opposition can not make their minds up leaving the Liberal, SNP and Green party pro EU.
And now the Westminster scandal hits the Lib Dems.
The Liberal Democrats have suspended a party member and referred reported rape allegations to the police.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41894540
Wow they all agreed!
Westminster party leaders have agreed to introduce a new grievance procedure for staff to deal with misconduct allegations, Theresa May has said.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41892271
>>>BREAKING NEWS<<<
Sacked Labour minister dies
Welsh Labour's Carl Sargeant, who faced party investigation into allegations about his personal conduct, dies
This breaking news story is being updated and more details will be published shortly. Please refresh the page for the fullest version.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41904161
Scottish parliament evacuated after white powder found - sourcehttp://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-security/scottish-parliament-evacuated-after-white-powder-found-source-idUKKBN1D71M3
Jim's Talc order seems to turned up. :)
Jimbuna
11-07-17, 12:00 PM
I see Boris has put his foot in it again.
Boris Johnson has said he is sorry if his remarks about a British-Iranian woman caused anxiety to her family.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41902883
^PM material what rot, Boris is out of the running as he and the rest get out of control again. Mrs May's cabinet if falling apart and she can not control them, old Jezzer must be pleased.
Brexit minister Steve Baker says it will take "no more than three weeks" to publish official reports on the impact of Brexit on Britain's economy.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41899729
The foul stench of deceit smells and this will not help.
Jimbuna
11-08-17, 10:56 AM
Looking like Priti Patel is about to lose her job.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41904459
Looking like Priti Patel is about to lose her job.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41904459
Priti Patel has resigned as UK international development secretary amid controversy over her meetings with Israeli officials.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41923007
Another one gone and Mrs May has become more weaker, she should have been sacked. Mrs May is falling apart and next week we get the Damian Green verdict. This government is weaker than watered down beer and the wolfs every where are enjoying it.
Westminster scandal
A key aide to Jeremy Corbyn, and the son of former Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott, has been suspended from his job.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41912847
Dive for cover Jezzer old John Prescott could make a come back..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukx5PPXopkM
Theresa May waxwork revealed at Madame Tussaudshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41916840
This Mrs May looks like shes in control unlike the real one. :03:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/D012/production/_98666235_hi042877128.jpg
The UK could remain in the EU if Leave voters could be offered a "game-changing" deal next summer, Gordon Brown has told BBC News.
But he predicted a "crisis point", when Leave voters realised they were not going to get what they were promised.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41899727
I never believed much that was said by both sides as both sides treated it like a bloody joke.
Skybird
11-09-17, 07:06 PM
Its hard to believe that what the British government shows regarding Brexit negotiations, is real. As is known, I do not hold great expectations of politicians in general. But this pitiful sight is somethign that even me never would have expected.
This government is enjoying a diplomatic Dunkirk in Brussels. Just that it thinks it is a holiday boat tour with picnic and champagne at the end.
I think this all will end very, very badly for Britain. This stellar amount of dilletantism is self-made, and it deserves not the smallest reward.
The ordinary people will pay the price, while the pigs at the top will keep on grinning and smacking.
I am all for confronting the EU. But I beg you - not in such an amateurish, weak fashion!
Its hard to believe that what the British government shows regarding Brexit negotiations, is real. As is known, I do not hold great expectations of politicians in general. But this pitiful sight is somethign that even me never would have expected.
This government is enjoying a diplomatic Dunkirk in Brussels. Just that it thinks it is a holiday boat tour with picnic and champagne at the end.
I think this all will end very, very badly for Britain. This stellar amount of dilletantism is self-made, and it deserves not the smallest reward.
The ordinary people will pay the price, while the pigs at the top will keep on grinning and smacking.
I am all for confronting the EU. But I beg you - not in such an amateurish, weak fashion!
If and I say if we leave the EU bet the door will be wide open with the EU waving a great big chocolate bar in our direction saying there is more where this came from.
I see the UK going down the tubes and begging the EU let us back in the club. No doubt the master plan of the pigs at the top.
Skybird
11-10-17, 06:33 AM
If and I say if we leave the EU bet the door will be wide open with the EU waving a great big chocolate bar in our direction saying there is more where this came from.
The big British folly.
Thats what we call your reaosning over here, and it has become almost proverbial by now: the assunption that Britain holds a strong ground against the EU and that the eU in the last second will blink, or just cannot wait and is eager to pave you a golden road back into the family. I think you are terribly wrong there. The anger abut your negotation team's lack of preparedness and solid information in brussels, is real. And I think Londown is extremely prone, or desperate, to read much more into German vague statements about business interests. Neither Germany nor the EU can afford to allow you gettign special deals served through the backdoor - it would be an incentive for others to follow your example. And there is not just germany, there is also France, your traditional old rival, and France currently celebrates heydays due to the cause you deliver them for throwing a party.
I expected this, and though that toughness and smartness and courage ciuld nevertheless see Britain through a rapidly employed tough Brexit, a clear cut that leaves business little time to leave the island for the contiennt while it still can. That is why I am so shocked to see the eggdance yur givernment shows up there, time and again. I wuld have exected that form many others - not from Britain. I'm kindnof shockek, really. If you would tell me this is just oike it always is over there in britian, then I woudl take it that I have had terrible illusions abut the nature of British politics. I man it often gets quoted as being an example for one of the world's most professionally organised administration of government politics and services. But maybe I hear just echoes from a distant past there...?
Britain wants to open the much wanted, the desperately wanted second phase of talks, focussing on trade after Brexit. The eU and all sttes have made it clear, that this expectation currently is completely unrealistic. That means that business will start to leave the islands for the continent already from early next year on, while they still can apply for "asylum" on the continent. British economy is heavily dependent on service businesses and banking. Well, have good fun with that exodus - it will be these branches that leave first.
A reenter int the eU after Brexit has been completed and formaised, will need all the years and preparation and negotiation that any foreign state - becasue that si what you then will be - has to run through. Do not expect a highway of golden paved priviliges, you most likely will not get them.
I expected all this hard playing by the EU, you apparently did not. I based my symoathy and support for Brexit on my wish to damage the EU, and my assunption that britain is tough and smart and courgaeous enough to prepare for going it all alone, taking the blows of the firts years that inevtibaly will come,l and then slowly foster again in the years after the difficult start. But now - a dreamdancing on eggs with broken or very thin shells, thats all i see from London's dreamteam. If this is the best your political clowns can show up with then you better cancel Brexit and stick with the EU.
Man, every couple of years I fall into an old pattern and ot a little, just a tiny little bit of faith into some politicians. And always I get immediately penaised for doing that. I realyl shoudl stick to my own rules: never trust in and never expect anything from olticians, no matter who they are. That way I would never get dissapointed.
Poor Brits, I feel sympathy for your misery. But maybe you deserve it, like we deserve the eU. Why don't you just go and drown your politicians in river Thames, instead of letting them ruin your lives? We should do the same with ours.
Jimbuna
11-10-17, 07:33 AM
It is being reported that some progress has been made in the negotiations but I notice there are no details set out.
"Some progress" has been made in the Brexit talks, the EU's Michel Barnier has said, following the latest round of negotiations with the UK in Brussels.
He was speaking after meeting Brexit Secretary David Davis for further talks on citizens' rights, the Irish border, and the UK's "divorce bill".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41941414
Jimbuna
11-10-17, 09:16 AM
Never thought I'd see the day Nicola would openly display crticism toward her former mentor.
Nicola Sturgeon has said she would have advised Alex Salmond against hosting a TV show on Russian state-funded broadcaster RT if she had been asked.
RT has been described as a propaganda tool for Vladimir Putin's government, but Mr Salmond urged viewers to judge for themselves.
Ms Sturgeon said the channel chosen by her predecessor as first minister would not have been her choice.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41941359
Skybird
11-10-17, 09:51 AM
It is being reported that some progress has been made in the negotiations but I notice there are no details set out.
Strange thing is in news of German and French papers the same item reads very different: the EU has set up an ultimatum of 2 weeks in which London has to make the demanded concessions to severla key demands regarding Irish borders and tax union, EU budget payments, migration - else the EU will not allow talks on trade beeing opened by the end of the year, as London desperately desires. ;)
Mind you, Jim, all EU meber states have to agree to any final Brexit treaty, and the EU parliament as well. Just one of these, just one voting against it, and the Brexit treaty, however the draft would look like, would be toast.
It is being reported that some progress has been made in the negotiations but I notice there are no details set out.
How many times we have been down this road then days or weeks later the EU states little to no progress has been made.
Never thought I'd see the day Nicola would openly display crticism toward her former mentor.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41941359
There at last is the proof, RT is not left wing. :)
And now news from Finland..
Read on..
Universal Basic Income: Finland shows how salary for all works
A fixed pre-work salary for all will be trialled in the UK soon. Sky News has visited Finland to find out how it is working there.https://news.sky.com/story/universal-basic-income-finland-shows-how-salary-for-all-works-11119005
It may work in Finland but here in the UK i don't think so.
Jezzer warming up to next weeks PMQ's
http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8862625.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Corbyn-Boxing.jpg
Brexit can be reversed despite Government claims, Article 50 architect Lord Kerr sayshttps://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-can-be-reversed-despite-government-claims-article-50-architect-lord-kerr-says-a3687256.html
Brexit can be reversed despite Government claims, the man behind Article 50 has said.
Lord Kerr, the architect behind the document claims the Brits are in danger of being “misled" by Government suggestions that quitting the bloc is set in stone.
Yep up the garden path and bam.:03:
Skybird
11-11-17, 06:56 AM
Report from EU parliament says that due to the Brexit Germany will see a 16% rise of its payments to the EU, or an increae by 3.8 billion. This reports also says that France and Italy will get away with proportionally smaller rises.
Jimbuna
11-11-17, 09:00 AM
Mind you, Jim, all EU meber states have to agree to any final Brexit treaty, and the EU parliament as well. Just one of these, just one voting against it, and the Brexit treaty, however the draft would look like, would be toast.
That is very true but I seriously believe it will be mainly Angela who will direct which way voting will take place.
Report from EU parliament says that due to the Brexit Germany will see a 16% rise of its payments to the EU, or an increae by 3.8 billion. This reports also says that France and Italy will get away with proportionally smaller rises.
Germany to all intents and purposes now runs Europe in my opinion but what France will make of that in the future is anyones guess.
Right that's it the Liberals should be locked up for this one..
The Scottish Liberal Democrats have backed a motion calling for all schools to have gender-neutral uniforms for students.
Jess Insall, 15, told the party conference that allowing girls to wear trousers and boys to wear skirts could result in happier students, better exam results and even better jobs.
She said: "It's a small step forward but it will make a huge difference."
Her call was backed by the party's UK deputy leader, Jo Swinson.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-41947722
No wonder we are in a mess, screw up the kids so in turn when they become adults they will screw up their kids and so on. :doh:
Teflon Tony is back..
This may raise hopes for old jim the spectra of Labour maybe just kept out of outright power in 5 years time.
Tony Blair: 'Labour should be 20 points ahead in polls'
Former prime minister Tony Blair has said that Labour should be much further ahead in the opinion polls than it is now, suggesting that Jeremy Corbyn isn't capitalising on the problems facing the government,
Mr Blair was speaking to Radio 4's Today programme, as he launched a new report for his Institute for Global Change.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-41952976/tony-blair-labour-should-be-20-points-ahead-in-polls
Jimbuna
11-12-17, 09:09 AM
Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe: Jailed woman's husband 'to speak to Boris Johnson'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41956588
I hope he can get some sense out of the clown.
Skybird
11-12-17, 11:50 AM
David Davis says Britain rejects to call out a concrete number it agrees to pay to the EU. This makes it extremely unlikely that the block will agree in mid Decembre to open talks on future relations and trade.
Skybird
11-12-17, 12:11 PM
That is very true but I seriously believe it will be mainly Angela who will direct which way voting will take place.
And there again is it - this strange "British folly" that Germany will save you. :) Actually, the net payers are in the minority in the EU, the net receivers have the majority, also in the ECB control boards. And these do not like that one of their milking cows - you Brits - are leaving so that they cnanot benefit from you anymore. These net receiving states will overrule Germany. And France thinks this is a greatb opprutnity to settle some "open bills" with it sowld prime rival Britain anyway. The French want to teach you a lesson.
And Merkel - I tell you what, her era is over. She is seriously weakned. Just two days ago she has lost a very major behind-the-curtain showdown, her candidate for becoming the head of the Konrad-Adenauer Foundation, wich is the German cornerstone in forming and defining German trans-atlantic interests and relations, has given up the race, and in goes a man that is far more independent from omni-controlling Angela: she wanted to prevent him at all costs, and lost. The negotiations for a Jamaica-coalition are gojgn badly as well, and the Merkel party hasd just dropped to the lowest point scores in six years, with a majoity of people now refusing the prospect of Jamaica (it is an idioccy anyway). The demand of Germany to get a certain man on the seat of Draghi, the current chief of the Bundesbank, also finds bitter resostance in brussels and the EU and Euro institutions, and I cannot see that he will make it. Probbaly a German it will be after Draghi, but not this one. Another major defeat for Merkel.
You overestimate both Merkel'Spower, and influence, and her words on brexit as well. Her era is over. And that we will have new generla elections in the forseeable future since no government gets build, is absolutely realsitic a scenario now. As long as the reds, the SPD, do not join in a continuation of the drama of a great coalition. For which their price may be to see Merkel going out, too.
Merkel is as good as over, she will never recover to her influence of past years. Even inside her own party and her sister party, the vultures started to rise.
Its good that she is done, her style and polcy was a disaster for Germany. But I cannot see anyone coming after her who is less bad than she was. Only bad option there are, only bad options. And the slow-motion-collapse of the FIAT money system looming above all. Due to its unique labour time models, germany was able to sit out the outbreak of symptoms in 2007. This time I doubt that even germany can just sit it out. It has not invested its profits in material assets, but paper-money-system based print assets - which will all collapse in fictional value as well then. And this will rupture the German social systems on all levels and civil society as well.
Or in short words: Merkel will not save you. ;) She has both hands full with counting her days and desperately trying to buy some more time. hioch will cost her party dearly, sinc she currently sells the last remains of the CDU's former profile, trying to bring the Jamaica coaltion ogether by giving up the last long held positions by the CDU. And who votes for a party that stands for nothing anymore than pure 100% self-serving opportunism, and for which everything, evertyhing is negotiable? Such a party is free of any features and characteristics, own views and own positions. And that is why it has dropped to its lowest score in 6 years since the negotiations for a coalition began.
I am in full agreement with you Sky, when I saw the German results it was clear Queen Merkel head is on the chopping block and to prevent the blade coming down sooner she's got her hands full with her own party and the other party's trying to keep her crown. The UK is not high on her agenda that's for sure.
EU preparing for possible collapse of Brexit talks - Barnier
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41961412
Clearly news from our side saying all is going well is BS. If we face a full on hard Brexit could bring down Mrs May. Boris and Gove are clearly pushing hard for this which i feel will back fire on their lust for power.
Skybird
11-12-17, 04:31 PM
The UK is not high on her agenda that's for sure.
Lets put it slightly different: the Eurofication of Germany, and keeping France financially in check (preventing to allow Paris financially eroding Germany over its demands for more EU glory) while at the same time allying alongside with it over the EU, are just higher on the list of priorities, than the UK. To appease France and help Macron is the main ,otive behind the massive german support for Franc elatest push for greater Eropean military integration. Berlin expects that this costs less than paying for Macron's other high flying plans. The chance for a Jamaica coaltion I see at 50%, that for new elections at 35%, and that for a renewal of a great coaltion with the SPD at 15%. None of these three scenarios coming true would really surprise me.
Jimbuna
11-13-17, 11:20 AM
The pressure from businessses on both sides of the channel but towards the leaders on each side.
European and UK business leaders have told Prime Minister Theresa May of their Brexit concerns.
At a meeting in Downing Street on Monday, representatives from groups including the CBI and BusinessEurope pressed for a transitional deal that preserves the status quo after Brexit.
The CBI chief, Carolyn Fairbairn, said all those at the meeting reiterated the damage "no deal" would do to trade.
A German lobby group also warned that no deal would cost their economy dear.
The head of the German chambers of commerce, Martin Wansleben, told a newspaper the car industry alone would face annual tariffs of more than €2bn if trade between the UK and the EU falls under World Trade Organisation rules.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41962813
Theresa May accuses Vladimir Putin of election meddlinghttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41973043
STEED SPIN..
Vladimir Putin accuses Theresa May of bad dressing, act your age you are 61 years old!
May Vs Corbyn
PMQ's time..
Old Jezzer's roller coaster ride at the top came back down today. I will give him credit for effort but in the end PM May wearing her big old dog collar deflected a number of Jezzer's attempted blows.
May 4 - Jezzer 1
Jimbuna
11-15-17, 08:19 AM
I made it 5-0
Jimbuna
11-16-17, 10:47 AM
Theresa May is to hold Brexit discussions with the president of the EU Council as the UK seeks to move talks on to a new trade deal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42004990
I could well be wrong but I can't see much coming of this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42004990
I could well be wrong but I can't see much coming of this.
STEED SPIN
Mrs May - All went well and looking good.
EU - UK is wasting time and clearly has no plan.
Jimbuna
11-17-17, 08:24 AM
EU - Give us your money and then we'll talk trade.
Mrs May - Bugga off!!
Jimbuna
11-17-17, 09:39 AM
David Davis has said the EU must be willing to give ground too if further progress in Brexit talks is to be made.
He told the BBC the UK has "been offering some creative compromises and not always got them back", insisting that "nothing comes for nothing".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42023765
Arguably the most sensible thing he has said since the talks began.
Catfish
11-17-17, 11:16 AM
EU - Give us your money and then we'll talk trade.
Mrs May - Bugga off!!
or
Mrs May: We expect trade with the EU to be better, after brexit.
EU: How?
EU - Give us your money and then we'll talk trade.
Mrs May - Bugga off!!
That would be the day the election goes her way. :03:
The EU has a royal flush and the UK has a bluff the EU knows about.
Theresa May has been told she has two weeks to put more money on the table if the EU is to agree to begin Brexit trade talks before the end of the year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42027859
Budget 2017: Double Budget effect on your financeshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41999236
Dam I am going to miss it, too busy getting ready for work.
Jimbuna
11-18-17, 06:21 AM
or
Mrs May: We expect trade with the EU to be better, after brexit.
EU: How?
There are a growing number of members (Holland included but only mentioned because they are a net contributor) who would like the negotiations on trade to commence.
Soon will come the test regarding the opinions of Sky and myself.
I believe Germany and France dictate the tune but Sky will be quick to remind me the majority (net receivers) outnumber them both.
I appreciate any single country can veto everything but the time is fast approaching when push will or must come to shove.
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/attachments/6a00d83452654869e200e55282a8928834-800wi-jpeg.9475/
Join the party jim, no point putting it off...Grab a drink a slice of pizza before the mad rush. :03:
Jimbuna
11-18-17, 07:59 AM
Richard Leonard to lead Scottish Labour
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-42024155
Another left-winger, who'd a thunk :doh:
Jimbuna
11-18-17, 08:07 AM
Now the picture looks a tad more clearer :)
Former Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale is to take part in this year's I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here! programme.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-42037321
Porn on ‘Damian Green’s computer’ was so extreme it would now be illegalhttp://metro.co.uk/2017/11/18/porn-on-damian-greens-computer-was-so-extreme-it-would-now-be-illegal-7088958/
Will he stay or will he go? :hmmm:
Jimbuna
11-18-17, 09:57 AM
:down:
Kezia Dugdale faces Labour suspension over I'm A Celebrity
Scottish Labour's new leader Richard Leonard has said the party's MSPs will consider suspension for his predecessor Kezia Dugdale.
Ms Dugdale, still an MSP, has been revealed as a surprise contestant in ITV's I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here! programme.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-42037321
What next? :rolleyes:
Jimbuna
11-18-17, 10:57 AM
Seeing as how Leonard is a Corbyn sycophant I'm not at all surprised by his attitude.
Philip Hammond says there are 'no unemployed people'
:har: :har: :har: :har: :har:
And on that note we all know what we are in for at the budget.
Jimbuna
11-19-17, 09:07 AM
Waiting for the non-event next Wednesday when the priority will be on helping those under the age of 49 who voted for Labour in the last election.
I need my old friend and colleague back.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42016744/uk-trashing-its-interests-with-brexit
Waiting for the non-event next Wednesday when the priority will be on helping those under the age of 49 who voted for Labour in the last election.
I need my old friend and colleague back.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42016744/uk-trashing-its-interests-with-brexit
Cameron tried and failed.
Jimbuna
11-19-17, 09:21 AM
He didn't make the absurd/unachievable promises Corbyn did and look where that got him....still in opposition.
He didn't make the absurd/unachievable promises Corbyn did and look where that got him....still in opposition.
I agree Cameron was not OTT with his package and the EU still said clear off. If the EU thinks it knows best and nuts to you what's the point.
Jimbuna
11-19-17, 09:32 AM
I agree Cameron was not OTT with his package and the EU still said clear off. If the EU thinks it knows best and nuts to you what's the point.
Take a step back and remind yersel what is happening on Wednesday (Budget).
Are you now talking about Brexit?
David Davis 'is on the brink of resigning' over bombshell secret letter sent to PM by Boris and Gove as new details emerge about their 'desire to turn post-Brexit Britain into a Singapore in Europe' tax haven'http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5096569/David-Davis-brink-resigning.html
Granted this is the DM but if this story holds water PM May must sack these two. David Davis has more credit than those two, if PM May sacks them it would boost her image and make her look like she back in control.
Take a step back and remind yersel what is happening on Wednesday (Budget).
Are you now talking about Brexit?
Budget is on Wednesday jim, you got all the info? :)
Jimbuna
11-19-17, 09:39 AM
Nope, nothing in it for me, I'm in excess of 49 years of age and have modest investments so it looks like I'll be going 'offshore' :doh:
Labour is gunning for the Young, they are using all the social media sites and the Tories are not. :doh:
As for the budget I never look on the bright side so the hit is less painful. :03:
Eichhörnchen
11-19-17, 11:38 AM
Bloody Tories
Bloody Tories
Now what is your beef about this great Tory idea.
Hammond: Driverless cars will be on UK roads by 2021
Driverless cars could be on UK roads within four years under government plans to invest in the sector.
Chancellor Philip Hammond told the BBC the objective was to have "fully driverless cars" without a safety attendant on board in use by 2021.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42040856
Eichhörnchen
11-19-17, 05:18 PM
My beef is that their radars will prolly not be able to detect squirrels on the road
My beef is that their radars will prolly not be able to detect squirrels on the road
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/139/590x/secondary/Jeremy-Corbyn-temper-844163.jpg
I love squirrel soup, in fact I recommend squirrels should be put on the menu as a healthy alternative to farm animals.
Jim would like this..
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/jeremy-corbyn-advent-calendar-on-sale-christmas-december-countdown-labour-party-leader-corbyn-corner-a8061246.html
Jimbuna
11-20-17, 05:46 AM
No thanks.
No thanks.
:haha: :haha:
Not even to keep warm in winter?
Sky Data: Should we take from the old to give to the young?https://news.sky.com/story/sky-data-should-we-take-from-the-old-to-give-to-the-young-11134995
A question to our old chap Jimbo once he has woken up taken all his medication.
I have suffered under all governments and will continual to so I say to the young shut up and man up. We're all been screwed and all boned and as I have said so many times here only a revolution will change the rotten system we have. And that is never ever going to happen.
Jimbuna
11-20-17, 02:59 PM
I have suffered under all governments and will continual to so I say to the young shut up and man up. We're all been screwed and all boned and as I have said so many times here only a revolution will change the rotten system we have. And that is never ever going to happen.
On thet we both most certainly agree :yep:
There is broad agreement among ministers that the government should increase its financial offer to the EU as the UK leaves, the BBC understands.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42060183
Screwed again jim, time to dig deep in our wallets.
Jimbuna
11-21-17, 08:06 AM
It may be worth it in the long run if it means we get a more favourable trade deal.
It may be worth it in the long run if it means we get a more favourable trade deal.
:hmmm:
And now..
Budget 2017: Everything you need to know
You are screwed. :yep:
Jimbuna
11-22-17, 05:37 AM
Yep, nowt in it for me I reckon.
kraznyi_oktjabr
11-22-17, 06:12 AM
It may be worth it in the long run if it means we get a more favourable trade deal.Finnish media reports say that PM Johnson and his deputy Mr. Gove demanded that higher offer must be conditional so that it can be withdrawn if they don't like proposed trade deal. Considering their lust for hard Brexit I don't think EU can consider that to be viable offer.
Jimbuna
11-22-17, 11:27 AM
Finnish media reports say that PM Johnson and his deputy Mr. Gove demanded that higher offer must be conditional so that it can be withdrawn if they don't like proposed trade deal. Considering their lust for hard Brexit I don't think EU can consider that to be viable offer.
The horse trading should soon begin in earnest.
May Vs Corbyn
PMQ's time..
Not much to say, dull.
May 1 - Jezzer 0
As for the budget, it did not look like much apart from racking up personal debt again as they dangled the debt choc bar under the noses of the young.
Hey, is it true old Jezzer blew up and lost his coolness responding to the Chancellor?
Defence minister Tobias Ellwood is prepared to resign if massive cuts to the Army are given the go-ahead, according to a report.https://news.sky.com/story/defence-minister-tobias-ellwood-prepared-to-resign-over-cuts-11142584
Ireland has been gripped by political turmoil with the country's deputy prime minister facing a no confidence vote, which could bring down the entire government.https://news.sky.com/story/ireland-gripped-by-political-turmoil-over-frances-fitzgerald-row-11141291
The President of the European Council has given the UK 10 days to meet EU demands on the Brexit divorce settlement.https://news.sky.com/story/eu-uk-has-10-days-to-sort-divorce-settlement-11142571
Sweden's Europe minister has poured cold water on the idea of the UK enjoying "frictionless trade" after Brexit.https://news.sky.com/story/sweden-warns-uk-not-to-emulate-norway-border-post-brexit-11140707
Greater Manchester mayor Andy Burnham has reacted with anger after the Government suggested it may not pay the full costs of the Manchester Arena bombing.https://news.sky.com/story/anger-over-pms-failure-to-commit-to-manchester-arena-attack-costs-11141705
This one is for you Mrs May..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCoP2W4v2v8
Catfish
11-25-17, 07:32 AM
^ to be fair it is not Mrs May's fault. She was not for brexit, but now has to deal with what should have been the work of Nigel Farage, or Boris Johnson. They should sit through this mess.
But as we all know they ran away as soon as they got what they wanted :)
^ to be fair it is not Mrs May's fault.
She's the PM...Just. :03:
It seems a week can not go by without this and that bringing her a headache. She is unfit to be PM and to be honest they all are!
Its all going to the dogs, oh wait I hear the dogs are leaving the country. Its all going to the cats, oh wait they are to busy crapping on my lawn...mice? :03:
Oh just to add from the budget lets give the government a clap for bringing down the waiting time to claim UC from six weeks to five. :haha: :doh:
Jimbuna
11-25-17, 07:55 AM
It would appear Australia and New Zealand have awoken to the potential reality on a post Brexit trade deal.
The UK should/must not turn its back on the Commonwealth.
Australia has criticised the UK's post-Brexit trade plans to split quotas of food imports from around the world.
EU rules allow for a certain amount of goods to be brought in from countries outside of the Union without charging full tariffs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42121442
^I wonder how Farage will re-act to that one? :hmmm:
Jimbuna
11-25-17, 08:24 AM
I doubt he cares anymore having achieved (almost) what he first set out to do.
I doubt he cares anymore having achieved (almost) what he first set out to do.
Have to agree with you, he is happy on the radio stoking the fire.
Jimbuna
11-25-17, 08:48 AM
Have to agree with you, he is happy on the radio stoking the fire.
Never turn your back or bend over when there is someone wielding a red hot poker.
Never turn your back or bend over when there is someone wielding a red hot poker. :haha: :haha:
Another one!
A Labour party member has died "suddenly and unexpectedly" shortly after being suspended over alleged misconduct involving adult pornography.https://news.sky.com/story/labour-staff-member-dead-after-suspension-11144588
Warning...when you join the Labour Party you run the risk of dying from pornography, we recommend you do not watch any pornography what so ever.
Jimbuna
11-26-17, 07:07 AM
I'm not particularly a fan of Arlene Foster but somebody had to get the message across.
Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) leader Arlene Foster has said Sinn Féin must choose between making a deal with them or having direct rule ministers in place.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42117070
Catfish
11-26-17, 01:55 PM
^ there may be other choices, if not peaceful.
I'm not particularly a fan of Arlene Foster but somebody had to get the message across.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42117070
Agreed, wonder if SF is up to something.
Jimbuna
11-27-17, 04:18 PM
They'll just keep going back to the ballot box because their vote seems to increase every time.
Jimbuna
11-27-17, 04:21 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42142390
Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson has been warned of a "substantial" revolt by Tory MPs in the event of more cuts to army numbers and naval capability.
Ex-minister James Gray urged ministers not to use a security review next year as "camouflage" for a cut in manpower.
Some Tory MPs have spoken out to warn the UK is at a defence crossroads.
In his first Commons outing since he took the job, Mr Williamson said he was "in awe" of British troops and would do everything he could to support them.
Good for them.
But Labour said Mr Williamson - who was a surprise choice to succeed Michael Fallon when he resigned last month - had shown little sign of trying to twist the chancellor's arm in the run-up to last week's Budget.
No surprises there then.
Ministers may trigger new vote to block release of full Brexit studies
Labour and the SNP are suggesting they will pursue contempt of parliament proceedings against David Davis' department.https://news.sky.com/story/ministers-may-trigger-new-vote-to-block-release-of-full-brexit-studies-11147858
:hmmm:
Skybird
11-29-17, 04:33 AM
Divorce bill settled? Britain is said to pay 50 billion Euros.
kilerkg
11-29-17, 06:09 AM
Divorce bill settled? Britain is said to pay 50 billion Euros.
I really hope not. A mid-large sized towns entire tax income over a lifetime, given away at the drop of a hat.
Catfish
11-29-17, 07:14 AM
Regarding you have to pay the UK former colonies help, together with what you now will have to spend alone, for farmers, infrastructure and science within the UK, this is quite a bit. Especially when there will be nothing coming from the EU anymore.
It is funny how you will find everything about how much the UK gives (gave) to the EU, without ever mentioning what came back :hmmm:
We will see if the money spent by the UK for its own can be directed more efficiently within the UK, after brexit.
At least the pound took a leap upward when the deal was noticed :)
Skybird
11-29-17, 07:39 AM
When what I give is coming back to me, why then do i have to give it away in the first?
The UK btw was a net payer, not a net receiver. They got back less of what they gave, Brit rabate yes or no.
Catfish
11-30-17, 05:34 AM
^ What England alone gets back is indeed debatable, and you cannot measure it so easily due to access to the single market based on the EU membership; they make a lot more profit than they pay through that. Of course it's the english economy and the people who benefit from that, not what the government receives, directly. this is why the brexiteers can so easily throw around numbers – take those out that suit you and shout wolf.
Now if you look how Scotland, Ireland and Wales benefit from the EU.. let's say "a bit more" :03:
Anyway it has not much to do with Boris Johnson's claims (which he recently repeated) or with Nigel Fararsch. Oh, so sorry. Not.
Another topic, Trump twitters against May, not only the wrong May, but also the person was dutch.. :doh:
.@Theresa_May (https://twitter.com/theresa_may?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw), don’t focus on me, focus on the destructive Radical Islamic Terrorism that is taking place within the United Kingdom. We are doing just fine!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 30, 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/936037588372283392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
The editor of GQ has criticised Jeremy Corbyn - on the day the Labour leader appears on the magazine's cover.
Dylan Jones told the BBC Mr Corbyn's photo shoot was "as difficult as shooting any Hollywood celebrity".
Mr Jones claimed that despite the Labour leader's "rock star persona" he was "underwhelming" in person.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42194131
Old JC would sell out to anyone who can put him in power, hey JC try the banks...Oh he blew that option when he attacked them. :haha:
Jimbuna
12-03-17, 06:35 AM
Divorce bill settled? Britain is said to pay 50 billion Euros.
A bit costly imo but it is being reported that the payment could be £1 Billion per year over 40 years which will mean a saving of more than a couple of trillion over the same period.
Jimbuna
12-03-17, 06:51 AM
^ What England alone gets back is indeed debatable, and you cannot measure it so easily due to access to the single market based on the EU membership; they make a lot more profit than they pay through that. Of course it's the english economy and the people who benefit from that, not what the government receives, directly. this is why the brexiteers can so easily throw around numbers – take those out that suit you and shout wolf.
Now if you look how Scotland, Ireland and Wales benefit from the EU.. let's say "a bit more" :03:
Anyway it has not much to do with Boris Johnson's claims (which he recently repeated) or with Nigel Fararsch. Oh, so sorry. Not.
Another topic, Trump twitters against May, not only the wrong May, but also the person was dutch.. :doh:
.@Theresa_May (https://twitter.com/theresa_may?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw), don’t focus on me, focus on the destructive Radical Islamic Terrorism that is taking place within the United Kingdom. We are doing just fine!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 30, 2017 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/936037588372283392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
*In basics* The UK is a 'NET' payer so the sums are simple, the UK will save money.
Most importantly though, and I make no apologies for my British mentality which has seen us through pretty well in history thus far....we regain control of our borders and our courts and laws and are no longer prepared to be dictated to by a bunch of predominantly unelected beurocrats.
Really, simply look at the nationalities of some of them....they hardly fill the UK population with any measure of confidence.
Of course, I may be too muddled on previous historic events of the past hundred years or so but many Brits like myself take pride in what we achieved and quite simply, that is how we'll always be.
Whilst not intended as a slur (by me at least) on any other country, I agree with that below.
https://i.imgur.com/RFJySlf.jpg
Ministers say no part of the UK will be treated differently in the Brexit talks as Labour branded their approach an "embarrassment".
No agreement has been reached with the EU after a DUP backlash against proposals for the Irish border.
Brexit Secretary David Davis told MPs the government was close to concluding the first phase of talks.
DUP leader Arlene Foster said the text of the deal was a "big shock" and "it was not going to be acceptable."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42231497
Progress...:roll:
Jimbuna
12-06-17, 02:52 AM
It'll all come right in the end because both sides are aware of the immense damage a 'failure to agree' would incur.
The UK faces a "perfect storm" of threats that could put its entire electoral system at risk, the head of the elections watchdog has warned.
Russian meddling on social media and local council cuts were just two of the factors threatening the credibility of the system, Sir John Holmes said.
He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme Britain's electoral laws were a "mess" and needed to be updated.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42250010
You could start with postal votes that clearly has been open to abuse for years. I would like to see big changes made at the HoC that will upset a number of "career politicians" who clearly don't give a toss about us the voter.
PMQ's 0-0
Poor show by both sides. This is my last comment on PMQ's for this year. Next year my score system gets tough as I will include all leaders from all party's.
Jimbuna
12-06-17, 11:09 AM
I enjoyed this :haha:
Speaker John Bercow mispeaks to create 'MP for Brexeter'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-42251345/speaker-john-bercow-mispeaks-to-create-mp-for-brexeter
The Electoral Commission is investigating whether the Labour-supporting Momentum group broke finance rules during the 2017 general election.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42264630
Don't hold back, get the rubber gloves on and search every where.
I don't trust this lot.
Catfish
12-07-17, 06:50 AM
^ at least with Labour they will not find pig meat packages sporting "may contain traces of Tories".
Jimbuna
12-08-17, 06:37 AM
PM Theresa May has struck a last minute deal with the EU in a bid to move Brexit talks on to the next phase.
There will be no "hard border" with Ireland and EU citizens in the UK, and UK citizens in the EU, will see their rights protected.
The so-called "divorce bill" will amount to between £35bn and £40bn, the BBC understands.
The European Commission president said it was a "breakthrough" and he was confident EU leaders will approve it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42277040
Looks like common sense has eventually prevailed....both sides had so much to gain and too much to lose.
I always knew it would be like this :smug:
https://i.imgur.com/9jDpiuX.gif
Looks like common sense has eventually prevailed....both sides had so much to gain and too much to lose.
I always knew it would be like this :smug:
Fat chance, the EU has walked over the UK and old bag May let them. We are going to remain in the EU back door. And I am not the only one who has picked up on this. :03:
I fear if more Vote Leave voters see this they will vote old JC into No.10 as a protest against May, if that happens we are screwed big time.
British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson arrived on Saturday in Iran, where he is expected to lobby his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif for the release of jailed Iranian-British aid worker Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe.https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-iran-johnson/uk-foreign-secretary-arrives-in-iran-to-lobby-for-jailed-aid-worker-idUKKBN1E3095
Don't balls this up Boris! :stare:
Jimbuna
12-09-17, 11:00 AM
*in before the triple post*
If the UK had a meaningful and serious opposition we would have a much stronger negotiating hand but the truth is, the opposition is even more divided than the governing party and the leader of said opposition is actually extremely anti-EU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEji10ygaxU
The link he is talking about..
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/joint_report.pdf
:hmmm:
Voters can use the next general election to have their say on a final Brexit deal, Michael Gove has said. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42291191
Problem is a percentage will vote Labour just to stick it to Mrs May as they are the only party stands a chance. Trouble is without thinking first Labour could slip in and oh my what have i done sinks in.
And yet on the other hand the Tories could loose just on the grounds the voter wants change as they have ran out of steam.
In my life time I don't recall a party winning four in a row. :hmmm:
Brexit: May's EU deal not binding, says David Davis
Brexit Secretary David Davis has described the deal struck by Theresa May to move to the next phase of Brexit talks as a "statement of intent".
He said it was not "legally enforceable" and if the UK failed to get a trade deal with the EU then it would not pay its divorce bill.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42298971
Get rid of this buffoon now, he just can't make his dam mind up! He was caught out this or last week on some matter he said and now this!
Sham Government useless opposition, may as well put Igor the pig farmer in charge.
Jimbuna
12-10-17, 10:24 AM
The biggy for me is the fact there will be no cash until a trade deal is concluded.
Worried that a robot will one day take your job? Don't fear says a senior politician who is urging people to "embrace an android".
If machines can take over routine tasks, deputy Labour leader Tom Watson believeshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42310953
Find by me, they can make a start clearing out that lot of over paid pigs at Westminster. :D
Vote for the robot party A or B or C.
UPDATE TO BELOW, SORTED.
Jimbuna
12-12-17, 06:07 AM
^ The above link leads to a blank reply screen on this forum :doh:
Jimbuna
12-12-17, 06:10 AM
Both the Conservatives and Labour have rejected petitions calling for a second EU referendum to be held.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42308552
Too bloody right :yep:
Catfish
12-12-17, 06:42 AM
^ "... people have to live by the results of their decisions" :yep:
The UK has "danced to the EU's tune" during the Brexit negotiations, former UKIP leader Nigel Farage has claimed.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42337093
It looks like it.
Rebellion threat to EU Withdrawal Bill
The government is facing the threat of a defeat by rebel backbenchers when MPs vote on its flagship EU legislation.
Led by former Attorney General Dominic Grieve - a Conservative MP - the rebels want to insert a legal guarantee that MPs should get a vote on any final Brexit deal before it is finalised.
The amendment, which will be backed by Labour, will be debated later.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42329118
Is PM May on the ropes? :hmmm:
Jimbuna
12-13-17, 06:44 AM
I reckon she is but she'll come back fighting as usual.
Brexit bill: Government loses key vote after Tory rebellion
The government has been narrowly defeated in a key vote on its Brexit bill after a rebellion by 11 Tory MPs.
In a blow to Prime Minister Theresa May, MPs voted to give Parliament a legal guarantee of a vote on the final Brexit deal struck with Brussels.
The government had argued this would jeopardise its chances of delivering a smooth departure from the EU.
Despite a last-minute attempt to offer concessions to rebels, an amendment to the bill was backed by 309 to 305.
Ministers said the "minor setback" would not prevent the UK leaving the EU in 2019.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42346192
Is this a sign the knives are out for PM May in her party? :hmmm:
As for PMQ's Maybot spouting figures again, that women is so wooded and stuck in the mud, she could fall by her own actions.
SLAB NEWS..
Scottish Labour has given its former leader a written warning over her controversial appearance on I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here!.
But the party said Kezia Dugdale would face no further disciplinary action after her stint on the reality TV show.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-42342209
Naughty women don't do it again, I wonder if harder action would have been taken if Slabs election results under her leadership were worst.
Theresa May is due at a summit in Brussels, hours after Conservative rebels in the Commons defeated the government in a key Brexit vote.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42346898
The EU is having a good laugh today as PM May pops over and the EU cracking jokes now who are we dealing with you or the UK Parliament. :doh:
Jimbuna
12-14-17, 07:03 AM
I must admit to feeling relieved you weren't around during the last war because you'd probably be the first one to hoist the white flag :nope:
I must admit to feeling relieved you weren't around during the last war because you'd probably be the first one to hoist the white flag :nope:
NO!
Theresa May has said the UK is "on course to deliver on Brexit" as she arrived in Brussels, the day after her first Commons defeat as prime minister.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42346898
Question is what kind of Brexit we are going to get from you BotMayDay?
Jimbuna
12-14-17, 11:08 AM
We'll most likely get what we bargain for at the end of the day but I'm reassured by the fact that no money will be given till and when a final deal that is deemed acceptable is agreed.
Jimbuna
12-15-17, 06:42 AM
EU leaders have agreed to move Brexit talks on to second phase, says European Council president Donald Tusk.
This mean talks can move on to the long-term relationship between the UK and EU, including trade and security.
The first issue to be discussed, as early as next week, will be the terms of a transition period after the UK leaves in March 2019.
European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has warned this process would be "significantly harder".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42368096
Now we get down to the nitty gritty side of this business.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42368096
Now we get down to the nitty gritty side of this business.
Fat Chance, another three month delay while the clock ticks on, economy experts say the UK will not have trade deals in place in time of leaving.
Jimbuna
12-16-17, 09:25 AM
David Cameron is to take on a new role leading a UK government-backed investment initiative between Britain and China.
The former prime minister will take charge of a £750m ($1bn) fund to improve ports, roads and rail networks between China and its trading partners.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42377177
Jobs for the boys :nope:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42377177
Jobs for the boys :nope:
Failed pig farmer. :roll:
Jimbuna
12-17-17, 09:20 AM
Every worker aged 18 or over will begin saving into a workplace pension unless they opt out, under government plans to extend its automatic enrolment scheme.
At present, the scheme means employers must enrol staff aged 22 and over and earning above £10,000 into a pension.
Ministers hope to reduce the minimum age to 18 in the mid 2020s, and say it will affect about 900,000 young people.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42366471
I'm all for this and both my kids (24 and 28) have already committed.
Jimbuna
12-17-17, 09:22 AM
Brexit: Theresa May says she 'will not be derailed'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42382391
I think it is time that all politicians on all sided join together in an effort to secure the most favourable outcome for our country.
Catfish
12-17-17, 12:03 PM
^ and a fitting last sentence, in the article :yep:
Every worker aged 18 or over will begin saving into a workplace pension unless they opt out, under government plans to extend its automatic enrolment scheme.I am against it if they can not opt out. I fall outside the TAX/NI and can not afford to opt in on my works pension scheme. I like my job and I rather be poor than miserable dreading going into work even if it pays more.
Jim it's Xmas send Nigel some money. :03:
Nigel Farage: I'm separated, I'm skint
Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage and journalist and author Rachel Johnson were sent on a election first date by the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme.
Mr Farage said that his work as a prominent Brexit campaigner has taken a toll on his personal life.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-40047762/nigel-farage-i-m-separated-i-m-skint
Jimbuna
12-18-17, 06:16 AM
^ and a fitting last sentence, in the article :yep:
The one below?
"I think it's caused by all the rubbish that keeps appearing in the right-wing newspapers, which have completely lost their heads over the whole thing," he said.
Jimbuna
12-18-17, 06:19 AM
I am against it if they can not opt out. I fall outside the TAX/NI and can not afford to opt in on my works pension scheme. I like my job and I rather be poor than miserable dreading going into work even if it pays more.
From my post #7469
unless they opt out
Catfish
12-18-17, 06:29 AM
The one below?
"I think it's caused by all the rubbish that keeps appearing in the right-wing newspapers, which have completely lost their heads over the whole thing," he said.
^ Yes, this is what i meant. It is not an especially UK thing though with all that's been going on recently.
kilerkg
12-18-17, 06:30 AM
I thought a pension was already compulsory , unless you opt out?
Edit:Why didn't they make it for everyone over 18 working full-time anyway, not just 21
Jimbuna
12-18-17, 06:39 AM
^ Yes, this is what i meant. It is not an especially UK thing though with all that's been going on recently.
True that :yep:
From my post #7469 unless they opt out
If that option is there find. most will opt out.
Over the past two years, Jeremy Corbyn's foot soldiers, led by a movement called Momentum, have transformed the Labour Party....https://news.sky.com/story/labour-councillors-accuse-momentum-of-a-purge-amid-internal-battle-between-left-and-right-11174573
This organization is hell bent on the destruction of the Labour party.
Jimbuna
12-18-17, 02:10 PM
The cancer from within.
The cancer from within.
Strange how the media only reports them in a light way. Clearly they want to move the Labour party further left than it is now and will stop at nothing to achieve this goal.
MPs blast death threats as newspaper headlines branded 'a kind of fascism'https://news.sky.com/story/mps-blast-death-threats-as-newspaper-headlines-branded-a-kind-of-fascism-11176782
Well if you are going to use social media that is your own look out. As for the news papers their sales have been falling year on year so what do they do? Yes hard hitting headlines in order to make you buy them. You lot have the power to do something about it so why don't you?
Jimbuna
12-19-17, 06:40 AM
Because wealth and the means to achieving it often lead to corruption and bias.
Jim here is your Xmas laugh...Enjoy. :)
Jeremy Corbyn: I'll probably be prime minister next year
Jeremy Corbyn believes there will be another election in "the next 12 months" and he will "probably" win it.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42411689
Funny Farm for old JC. :haha:
The Liberal Democrats have been fined £18,000 for breaking spending rules in last year's EU referendum.
The Electoral Commission said the party had "failed to deliver a complete and accurate spending return".
Proper receipts and invoices were not provided for 80 payments worth more than £80,000, the watchdog said.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42411144
Drop your pants wee Tim Mr Cane is here to cane you.
Online trolls who sent abusive emails to Tory MP Anna Soubry and her fellow Brexit rebels have been confronted by Sky News.
Ms Soubry has submitted a 35-page dossier of threats of violence made against her to House of Commons Speaker John Bercow.
The document includes emails and Twitter posts, many of which call for the Broxtowe MP to be hanged for treason.https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-confronts-trolls-who-targeted-tory-brexit-rebel-anna-soubry-11177060
Why is SKY News doing this? It's down to these MP's to take action and i think "death threats" falls under hate crimes. So these MP's should contact the police.
Jimbuna
12-19-17, 11:23 AM
Jim here is your Xmas laugh...Enjoy. :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42411689
Funny Farm for old JC. :haha:
:har:
And I'm to be crowned the next king of Brazil :O:
:har:
And I'm to be crowned the next king of Brazil :O:
Really...I had you down as the next king of Bognor Regis.
JC Dell Boy..."This time next year I will be Prime Minister"
Catfish
12-19-17, 05:50 PM
If he learns to twitter and has enough russian friends, he may well succeed :hmmm:
:O:
Jimbuna
12-20-17, 06:01 AM
If he learns to twitter and has enough russian friends, he may well succeed :hmmm:
:O:
Even with that I reckon he's got more chance of getting bitten on the backside by a cabbage.
Jimbuna
12-20-17, 06:02 AM
EU says Brexit transition to end by 31 December 2020
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42426542
EU says Brexit transition to end by 31 December 2020
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42426542
:haha: :haha: Great one jim :har: :har:
Damian Green, one of Theresa May's closest allies, has resigned from the cabinet after an investigation found he had breached the ministerial code.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42434802
Now he can watch porn 24/7 the dirty sod.
Catfish
12-20-17, 04:41 PM
They say that june is the end of may :hmmm:
Michael Gove has hit back at claims the price of cheddar cheese will go up by 40% if Britain leaves the EU without a trade deal.
No more Welsh Rabbit for you jim, you have to have real rabbit on toast. :) :haha:
Fubar2Niner
12-20-17, 05:01 PM
Did we not invent the bloody stuff...........? Cheddar that is, stuff your Brie, Camembert, and silly garlic infused Boursin. If the price goes up, I'm moving to Holland and eating edam............... yak
Did we not invent the bloody stuff...........? Cheddar that is, stuff your Brie, Camembert, and silly garlic infused Boursin. If the price goes up, I'm moving to Holland and eating edam............... yak
Red light district? :hmmm:
Theresa May suggests MPs' Brexit deal vote could come after ratification
The PM refused five times to answer former sparring partner Yvette Cooper's question in a heated exchange.https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-suggests-mps-brexit-deal-vote-could-come-after-ratification-11178885
MayBot...does not compute
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRVOxqxW4AAYH-X.jpg
Jimbuna
12-21-17, 10:55 AM
Politicians the world over.
Theresa May had to sack Damian Green after he "lied" over what he knew about police claims to have found porn on his office computer, Jeremy Hunt has said.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42439328
Yesterday this was reported he stepped down, make your minds up will you.
Jimbuna
12-21-17, 11:11 AM
He was asked to resign and he did so.
Jimbuna
12-22-17, 08:18 AM
It will be good to see the return of the original blue-coloured passport.
British passports will change from burgundy to blue after Britain leaves the EU, the Home Office has said.
Immigration Minister Brandon Lewis said he was delighted to return to the "iconic" blue and gold design which came into use almost 100 years ago.
The new passports will be issued to those renewing or applying for a passport from October 2019.
Burgundy passports were first issued in 1988. The EU has never compelled the UK to change the colour of its passport.
Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage responded to the announcement by tweeting "Happy Brexmas!"
He added: "In the 2016 referendum, we wanted our passports back. Now we've got them back!"
But Labour MP Mary Creagh tweeted: "No-one under 45 will have owned a blue passport, and most will think they're not worth £50 billion and crashing the economy."
Mr Lewis told BBC Radio 4's Today programme he knew many Remain voters who still had an "attachment" and "speak fondly" of the blue passport.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42443253
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