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BossMark
11-13-15, 11:43 AM
Tory minister Tracey Crouch has said that families struggling to get by due to welfare cuts will "just have to give up their satellite TV packages".
In other news, Rupert Murdoch has just announced he's backing Jeremy Corbyn in the next election.
Always was going to be a Conservative 'CON' but I've a feeling no matter how hard he tries, he won't stop the British public from voting for leaving.
I know I most certainly will.
If it goes lets get out of the EU, HagFish Toffboy will do a Irish Number on the UK to get stay in vote victory.
After the events in Paris is HagFish Toffboy going to stop these scum coming back to the UK?
I would gladly let the whole bloody lot out the country but none of them will ever return and what they leave behind will be sold off.
Jimbuna
11-14-15, 08:17 AM
If it goes lets get out of the EU, HagFish Toffboy will do a Irish Number on the UK to get stay in vote victory.
The would count would be overseen by an independent body so I doubt any vote rigging would succeed.
The would count would be overseen by an independent body so I doubt any vote rigging would succeed.
He will just re-run it until he gets what he wants or some other stunt to keep us in.
Always was going to be a Conservative 'CON' but I've a feeling no matter how hard he tries, he won't stop the British public from voting for leaving.
I know I most certainly will.
Well, we Eurosceptics in Scotland have a small problem:
Scottish Nationalists - pro-EU
Scottish Labour - pro-EU
Scottish Conservatives - pro-EU
Scottish Lib-Dems - pro-EU
Scottish Greens - pro-EU
Many of the Independent MSP's are pro-EU as well.
That leaves that oik David Coburn of UKIP (decidedly disliked in Scotland) to lead the "Leave" campaign. I also strongly suspect that Tommy Sheridan will lead a separate socialist alliance anti-EU "Leave" campaign. It's highly doubtful either campaign will co-ordinate their efforts.
Do you trust either of these two?
Coburn:
http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/ukipdev/pages/2676/meta_images/original/David_Coburn.jpg?1433247632
Sheridan:
http://socialistpartyni.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/JS33125854.jpg?9017eb
It will be very interesting to see if the SNP and SLab will let their MSP's campaign on their own convictions or if they have to rigidly follow the party line. The SCons will let their people campaign as they see fit.
The would count would be overseen by an independent body so I doubt any vote rigging would succeed.
Trying to convince people that there wasn't any vote rigging will be difficult. It's been very interesting to see that a fair few people in Scotland think the Indy-Ref was fixed, even ones who voted No.
I am sick fed up to the back teeth with nationalism, of any kind!!!!:down:
Mike.
He will just re-run it until he gets what he wants or some other stunt to keep us in.
What do you think the hardliners in the SNP are trying to do?:/\\!!
Mike.
Jimbuna
11-16-15, 06:18 AM
What do you think the hardliners in the SNP are trying to do?:/\\!!
Mike.
Most definitely :yep:
Jimbuna
11-16-15, 06:21 AM
On an unrelated topic...
I thank my lucky stars this individual will most likely never be in the position of leader of my country.
Jeremy Corbyn claims it would have been 'far BETTER' if Jihadi John HADN'T been killed dragged before a judge.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/619233/Jihadi-John-dead-Jeremy-Corbyn-Labour-Mohammed-Emwazi
Jimbuna
11-16-15, 01:46 PM
It just keeps getting better and better or should I say more worrying and worse...
BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg asks Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn whether he could ever support military action against Islamist extremists.
Mr Corbyn called it a "hypothetical question". Asked again, he said "I'm not saying I would or I wouldn't... there has to be, at the end, a political situation to it".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34830749
ExFishermanBob
11-16-15, 02:03 PM
Well, we Eurosceptics in Scotland have a small problem:
Scottish Nationalists - pro-EU
Scottish Labour - pro-EU
Scottish Conservatives - pro-EU
Scottish Lib-Dems - pro-EU
Scottish Greens - pro-EU
...Snip...
I voted Yes as we were promised we'd be thrown out of the EU for doing so. I get two goes. Tee hee.
I voted Yes as we were promised we'd be thrown out of the EU for doing so. I get two goes. Tee hee.
Yeah, right.....:O:
Three actually, if the vote goes the way I think it will and the SNP actually get another referendum.
Don't be so sure that the membership of Scotland's parties are completely pro-EU, BTW.:03: Given that it's entirely possible that the wheels may come off the EU project altogether, prompted by the individual countries populations, not their leaders, I don't see much utility of nailing my colours to something that might collapse. I know plenty of people who voted yes but can't stand the EU. For them independence means independence, not being shackled to Brussels instead of Westminster.
For them, an independent Scotland outwith the EU is perfectly OK. If such a thing comes to pass, I wouldn't be too unhappy with the situation. Mainly to see what happens when the more fanatical lefty nationalists realise that what the SNP has promised isn't altogether financially tenable given that there wouldn't be any money transfers from down south, or subsidies from the EU. Scotland would have tighten it's belt mightily, which I'm sure all those SLab created socialist drones in the Western Central Belt would hate.
I say good. An independent Scotland will only work if Glasgow and the surrounding areas get off their collective backsides and stop blaming everyone else for their economic misfortune. That includes getting rid of those corrupt sods in Glasgow City Council. If that city is to have any form of proper economic revival it's needs to vote those apparatchiks out in 2017.
As for North Sea oil and gas, it's a red herring, and always has been IMHO. There may be a fair bit left, but it's the cost of getting it out of the ground which is the deciding factor, not what it sells for. If it costs more to extract than it does to sell, it stays in the ground. The rest of the economy needs to be grown massively across the board for independence to win over the financially cautious. The SNP hierarchy know this, I'll give them that. I'm not sure most of the party's new membership do, especially the left wing nutty ones.
Mike.
ExFishermanBob
11-17-15, 02:31 AM
I agree totally, and also know a number of Yessers who did not want the EU and see independence as a way out of it quickly. The SNP is a spectrum of political views and, upon independence, would split rapidly (at least that is the analysis I have been given). I don't see negotiations on joining the EU then being possible - far more likely, I think, is a Norway-type model of close association without membership.
My personal preference would have been indy, but in a loose Northern/Arctic Alliance (Scand, Iceland, Greenland...) acting as a buffer against the EU extremism. The worst would be indy and still in the EU - what would be the point?
The worst would be indy and still in the EU - what would be the point?
What would be the point indeed. In that case better the devil you know, than the one you don't. We just need to come to a fairer solution than the one everyone in the UK currently has. I'm a federalist, not a unionist (smacks of Northern Ireland and it's "issues", that term), but I can't see the Tories going anywhere near the idea for ideological reasons, at least for now.:hmmm: It would certainly help fix things, anyway.
Anyway, going back to Scotland itself, as I see it, what I think could be at least one driving factor is what might be called the "big trough" factor. Part of the reason Scotland agreed to the union with England was to get direct access to England's colonial territories and the money and trade that they represented. It tried it's own colonial venture at Darien and failed miserably, hence another reason for the union, a financial bail out. For England, the union cured a very big worry - a potentially unfriendly northern land border to be defended in addition to the equally unfriendly French to the south and the unreliable, rebellious Irish to the West.
Perhaps, now that the Empire is gone, it could be said that the UK as it now stands isn't a big enough trough for the Scottish political class to swill from. The EU is. Very, very much so.
Which is very reminiscent of a much, much older Scottish stereotype - the avaricious, greedy Scot which raised it's head after James the VI of Scotland became the James the I of England. The English nobility were not happy at the sudden influx of Scots nobles who came south with him!
Mike.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/05/article-2140145-0D874E9500000578-173_306x489.jpg
I'm fighting Terrorists all the way?
Where is the money coming from?
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01762/cameron-david-happ_1762769c.jpg
The poor and needy.
Jimbuna
11-19-15, 07:38 AM
I've met this guy on a number of occasions and always thought he was better than that.
Livingstone apologises for 'psychiatric help' comment
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34864632
What next?
Jeremy Corbyn risks further Labour party divides by appointing Ken Livingstone as co-chair of Trident review.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-risks-further-labour-party-splits-by-appointing-ken-livingstone-as-co-chair-of-trident-a6738901.html
http://i.imgur.com/bbXg3Bc.jpg
INDEED!!
Well well well, looks who is going to get his own airplane. Yes HagFish Toff boy setting a good example to the rest of us I'm now safe from guns bullets and bombs and the rest of you low life will have to take a chance.
LONDON (Reuters) - Prime Minister David Cameron and his senior ministers are to get their own aeroplane to use for official trips, the government said on Thursday.
The decision comes as Chancellor George Osborne prepares to set out a fresh round of spending cuts in a bid to eliminate the budget deficit.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/british-pm-cameron-official-plane-084851077--business.html#EfBdIgL
Who is going to foot the bill? The poor and needy again!
Hagfish can poke pigs in private now. :03:
Jimbuna
11-19-15, 08:06 AM
You have to win an election before you get such priviledges....just ask the POTUS.
I doubt Corbyn will ever need a passport.
You one party that is in a right mess, you got another that has become worthless and this lot still banging on about cuts while they wast money on HagFish and his cronies so they can jet all over the place!
Jimbuna
11-19-15, 08:50 AM
I doubt I'll ever be able to forgive Labour and the stupid internal election rules Ed introduced, so making Labour unelectable for many a year to come, thus allowing the Tory Party to do as they like, almost unchallenged.
I doubt I'll ever be able to forgive Labour and the stupid internal election rules Ed introduced, so making Labour unelectable for many a year to come, thus allowing the Tory Party to do as they like, almost unchallenged.
Time for a revolution jim you stock up on Pot Noodle and BossMark stock up on beer and Oberon you buy the Tanks and I will write a strongly worded complaint to the Sunday Times. :)
Jimbuna
11-19-15, 09:01 AM
Time for a revolution jim you stock up on Pot Noodle and BossMark stock up on beer and Oberon you buy the Tanks and I will write a strongly worded complaint to the Sunday Times. :)
I'd rather be a bookmaker and take bets on Labour losing the next election by a possible landslide :know:
I'd rather be a bookmaker and take bets on Labour losing the next election by a possible landslide :know:
They were going to loose who ever is leader. If there are so many fed up with JC why don't they breakaway and form a new party?
Back in the 80' we all know this happen...SDP.
Jimbuna
11-19-15, 10:28 AM
They were going to loose who ever is leader. If there are so many fed up with JC why don't they breakaway and form a new party?
Back in the 80' we all know this happen...SDP.
That may yet come to pass, especially as he is now positioning his supporters into meaningful positions thus disenfranchising a growing number of the elected moderates.
That may yet come to pass, especially as he is now positioning his supporters into meaningful positions thus disenfranchising a growing number of the elected moderates.
I think it may come about at next years local elections if Labour get a big hammering. If not tricky to say but the sooner these people breakaway the better to get up and running.
Just been looking up..
Oldham West & Royton results and looks to me Labour will hold this seat in the up coming By-election on Dec 3rd without too much to worry about. Just a question how many votes they gain or loose.
Oldham West & Royton 2015 general election
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000871
BossMark
11-19-15, 12:08 PM
Labour should hold that seat easy, but to do well they need to increase their share of their vote.
Oberon you buy the Tanks
Took me a while, but I got one!
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss171/NewYears1978/World%20of%20Tanks/tank_zpsb636f37e.jpg
That may yet come to pass, especially as he is now positioning his supporters into meaningful positions thus disenfranchising a growing number of the elected moderates.
That may be the case, but what I think we've seen in Corbyn's election is that the Parliamentary Labour Party and the party's grass roots sit in rather different areas of the political spectrum.
I'll repeat again, I don't care for the Labour Party, for reasons I've already stated, but you do need a decent opposition. As the second largest party at both Westminster and Holyrood, Labour is failing miserably in both Parliaments.
Some of the latest polling for next years Scottish Parliamentary Elections show the Scots Cons within a ace of overtaking SLab as number two party in terms of vote share, but that won't translate all that well into seats, even under the proportional representation system we have up here. SLab occupies too many of the heavily populated constituencies.
Anyway, moving on to the current situation vis-a-vis Daesh, Sturgeon and Salmond are giving out conflicting signals on whether or not the SNP will or will not support extending airstrikes in to Syria. The former's taking the "willing to listen" position whilst the latter is saying "no support without a UN mandate" one. Thus we see the tension between the Gradualist and Radicalist wings of the party.
There haven't been any specifically Scottish polls on the airstrike question, but I suspect public opinion up here will generally be "agree that something needs to be done, but not convinced airstrikes are a good idea, but if you decide to go in, make damn sure you don't make things worse".:hmmm:
Mike.
Jimbuna
11-20-15, 07:51 AM
Just been looking up..
Oldham West & Royton results and looks to me Labour will hold this seat in the up coming By-election on Dec 3rd without too much to worry about. Just a question how many votes they gain or loose.
Oldham West & Royton 2015 general election
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000871
Received a letter yesterday from my CLP offering a seat on the coach to go and help.
Obviously haven't updated their membership records of late.
Received a letter yesterday from my CLP offering a seat on the coach to go and help.
Obviously haven't updated their membership records of late.
Dear CLP
It would be my pleasure too help you by eating all the Pot Noodles just drop me off at the nearest pub and pick me up later.
Jim
Took me a while, but I got one!
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss171/NewYears1978/World%20of%20Tanks/tank_zpsb636f37e.jpg
Dam Tories and their cut backs! :/\\!!
Oh well its a start.
Jimbuna
11-20-15, 11:29 AM
Dear CLP
It would be my pleasure too help you by eating all the Pot Noodles just drop me off at the nearest pub and pick me up later.
Jim
Sounds good :sunny:
Government borrowing worst October figure in six years
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34877455
Here is a good idea how about you drop that airplane for a start. :yep:
BossMark
11-20-15, 12:20 PM
^^
Prime Minister David Cameron and senior ministers are to get their own plane for official trips
Yes get rid off toffboy airways :nope:
Jimbuna
11-21-15, 06:54 AM
Jeremy Corbyn has warned that we "must not keep making the same mistakes" when responding to acts of terror.
In a speech to party members, he said Labour would support "every necessary measure" to protect people in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34886321
Oh and what measures are they Jeremy?
What does a pacifist think is the best tactic to use against these barbaric indiscriminate killers?
You must have eventually come to the realisation that a sizeable portion of your parties MP's will vote against your wishes if and when the vote on bombing Syria is taken.
A bit hypocritical of you trying to stop such actions when you have done the same yourself over 400 times during your time as an MP don't you think.
http://images.allposters.com/images/ATA/24805BP.jpg
Excellent jim, as the newest member of the Burns Party I have high hopes for you.
Jimbuna
11-21-15, 08:39 AM
That's fine just so long as I'm not expected to pin a white feather to my lapel.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/0/4772/151577-94180-mr-burns.gif
World domination of the Burns Party is looking good....HA HA HA HA HA.
ikalugin
11-21-15, 11:05 AM
How is the SDSR2015 comming up?
XabbaRus
11-21-15, 11:40 AM
^^
Yes get rid off toffboy airways :nope:
To be fair, most other countries leaders have their own jet, we are one of the few that doesn't. In fact in this case it may well be that chartering planes each time does cost more, where as having a single dedicated plane that also fulfills other roles when not being used to transport the PM will cost less.
XabbaRus
11-21-15, 11:51 AM
How is the SDSR2015 comming up?
I've been reading that we might not be getting rid of the Tranche 1 Typhoons, MPA will be fast tracked and F-35 is on course.
Keeping Tranche 1 Typhoons might be a good idea, given we are retiring Tornado, if they can be upgraded to increase their A2G capabilities even more beyond the Paveways they carry at the moment (Brimstone and Stormshadow) even if they can't get the EASA radar they could be used well enough for CAS.
Also Sentinel will be kept on too which is a good idea. ISR is always useful.
Corbyn hasn't impressed me. Sure it was great as it shook up the whole debate, but the way he has handled things with regards to the shadow SDR review. Putting in Ken Livingstone as co-chair behind her back just shows he doesn't want to compromise. His comments about Trident were stupid. Even if you aren't going to push the button, you don't tell everyone that. You leave them guessing. The same with regards to shoot to kill. If I had a bunch of terrorists holding me and my friends hostage and the police or SAS had a clear shot, I would want them shot dead.
He comes across in interviews as aloof to be honest.
How is the SDSR2015 comming up?
It's coming along well, I found a picture of the author:
http://mb.cision.com/Public/1091/9253031/aaab613622029fdd_800x800ar.JPG
In regards to Corbs, I think he has some valid points to make but they're being spun the wrong way. He wants a multi-national mission to hit Syria co-ordinated through the UN, and that's probably the best way to do it, then our strikes will be organised and so will our intel.
Of course, this means that the west will have to drop its mission to remove Assad and focus strictly on Daesh, which might be a sticking point for some in the UN, and in regards to his concerns about the shoot to kill policy, he was probably remembering Jean Charles de Menezies and the right royal screw up that was.
He does have a point about getting the Arabs to do the ground work, and that's pretty much what Iran, Iraq and Syria have been doing, but I think that if the UK got in with France in the UNSC and called for a military mission to end the threat of Daesh, I think that so long as it didn't get involved too deeply in what will be done after the threat has been eliminated (ie. the future of the Syrian government) then Russia will back it and so will the US. I can't see any of the current non-permanent members raising too much of a fuss, Jordan might want to tag on stuff about Assad, I'm not sure which way they lean in this proxy war, but the rest should be in favour.
That being said, I'm not sure how the UN would declare war on an organisation rather than a country. :hmmm: Eh, they'd figure it out.
But yes, we want to be careful what and how we attack so we don't end up screwing up the war effort underway.
XabbaRus
11-21-15, 12:25 PM
The problem getting the Arabs to do it is that a good number in Saudi, Qatar and others are funding IS and sympathise with them. Iranians and Syrians aren't Arabs and here in is part of the problem.
Any solution that happens in Syria will have to include Assad, even for teh short term. I see a chance here to have a proper transition to a more or less democratic government. We need to also get rid of this notion of good terrorists and bad. I personally don't think such things as moderates exist anymore in Syria. The Turks also need to be told to back off a bit. They are happy to see Assad go, also seem to have their eye on the Turkmen areas at the same time as hitting the Kurds who are in the area.
Like it or not their needs to be some cosying up to the Russians. I suspect that given how quiet things over the Ukraine are that a deal has already been cut.
In regards to Corbs, I think he has some valid points to make but they're being spun the wrong way.
British FOX News. :03:
Yes JC is not perfect but the bloody media is far from perfect. :damn:
The residents of Larkhall, near Glasgow, give their response to ISIS:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/larkhall-residents-erect-sign-telling-isis-to-f-k-off-1-3954771
There has also been a major spike in race hate crimes in Scotland against Muslims since the Paris attack, enough for Sturgeon to tell people to cool it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-34831412
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-34877717
Mike.
Not just Scotland
Hate crimes against Muslims are up 300% across the UK since Paris. :nope:
Jimbuna
11-22-15, 11:03 AM
Agree with it or not I presume it is only a matter of weeks before Cameron woos the Labour members (in sufficient numbers) yo get a parliamentary mandate to bomb Syria.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34893585
HagFish Toff Boy is a fool and will screw up.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
Moonlight
11-22-15, 11:43 AM
^What makes Cameron think that bombing anybody will achieve anything, it didn't work in the past and it won't work now. These idiots who go along with this hare brained scheme of Camerons need a bloody lobotomy. :nope:
Considering what's happened in Libya, my expectations are low.
Moving on to the SDSR, it appears that a new MPA is indeed on the cards. My bet is the P-8, with an outside possibility of the Kawasaki P-1. Considering Scotland's continuing political unreliability, I think they'll be based in either England or Wales. Not that there are any suitable base facilities for them in Scotland these days.
Mike.
Well, I was right about the P-8 being bought for the RAF:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34897803
Main points:
Nine P-8's to finally replace the scrapped Nimrod's, will probably be based at RAF Lossiemouth in Scotland (contrary to my pessimistic assessment);
Two "Strike Brigades" to be created by 2025;
Typhoon service life will be extended by 10 years to 2040, with two extra squadrons being formed;
138 F-35B Lightning II's will be acquired, thus allowing both Queen Elizabeth class carriers to be in service at the same time.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34893614
Not mentioned, but also announced, is that only 8 Type 26 frigates will be procured at this time, however the intention is still to have a class of 13.
Unsurprisingly, the SNP are kicking up a fuss about that last point whilst Glasgow's Daily Record (aka the Daily Ranger), despite being a Unionist paper and SLab rag, is also trotting out it's "Heartless English Tories betray Glasgow ship workers" guff.....:nope:
Mike.
Jimbuna
11-23-15, 02:04 PM
The creation of two rapid deployment strike brigades by 2025 doesn't sound all that rapid to me and this current PM appears to be writing cheques he won't be around to put his signature to.
The question now being....who or what (savings wise) will be paying for all this, but I do agree the need for all the above 'capability gap filling).
Jimbuna
11-25-15, 06:44 AM
Not long now for the Spending Review announcement.
I wonder what manner of delights Gideon has in store for us.
I hear he is throwing money around like some show off who won the jackpot. On the other side of the coin in the real world oh my the national debt is still going up and don't forget the government wants you to take the debt their debt!
Back in dream land
La la la la la la la woooooooo la la la woooooooooo everything is going well.
You can't tell there's a Tory leadership contest coming up, can you? :O: :haha:
You can't tell there's a Tory leadership contest coming up, can you? :O: :haha:
Really? :huh:
Tell all, spill the beans..:)
http://cdn2.spectator.co.uk/files/2013/11/182640312.jpg
NO GIT IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY MY JOB AS TOP PIG SHAGGER
http://cdn2.spectator.co.uk/files/2014/06/1416047741.jpg
You are history fat boy, roll over and make way your job is mind now clear off you pig shagger.
BossMark
11-25-15, 03:43 PM
As Osborne talks more and more of 'fiscal rectitude' the more I think he needs rectal fistitude.
http://cdn2.spectator.co.uk/files/2013/11/182640312.jpg
NO GIT IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY MY JOB AS TOP PIG SHAGGER
http://cdn2.spectator.co.uk/files/2014/06/1416047741.jpg
You are history fat boy, roll over and make way your job is mind now clear off you pig shagger.
http://www.cityam.com/assets/uploads/main-image/full_width_article_body_image/britain-boxing-mayor-457996154-562382a2a6541.jpg
BORIS SMASH!! BORIS SMASH!!
Jimbuna
11-26-15, 08:37 AM
Well he certainly pulled a fast one over Labour in dropping the tax credits.
They'll soon be replaced by Universal Credit which will have the same or an even more damaging effect on the low paid.
Was nice to see the Shadow Chancellor going into comedy mode with the little red book of a well known former ruler who is believed to be responsible for over four million deaths :nope:
Osborne isn't daft, now that Labour has gone hard left and the Lib Dems are vaporised, the middle ground is open for the taking.
Jimbuna
11-26-15, 09:26 AM
Labour policy in dissaray (not that they have announced one since the leadership contest) no more so than in 'Trident'....Leader and deputy can't agree and the cabinet can't agree with the leadership or the parliamentary members :doh:
Yeah, I mean I can respect Corbyn for running a fairly open shop in that you don't have to solidly toe the line and doff your cap to the big boss, that you can have your own opinion...but, it doesn't lead to a very organised party and it's a bit like putting a freshly cut limb into a pool of sharks...
Jimbuna
11-26-15, 09:35 AM
I'm waiting to see if Corbyn allows his side a free vote, especially when you consider he has voted in excess of 400 times against the party whip. Would be a tad hypocritical if he denied his side that I reckon.
David Cameron says launching UK air strikes against Islamic State militants in Syria will "make us safer".http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34927939
As if..
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
Osborne isn't daft, now that Labour has gone hard left and the Lib Dems are vaporised, the middle ground is open for the taking.
Stand by for years of Tory rule! :eek:
They'll soon be replaced by Universal Credit which will have the same or an even more damaging effect on the low paid.
Always the case give with one hand take back with the other.
Stand by for years of Tory rule! :eek:
Until at least 2025 I'd wager, unless the Tories manage to really screw things up between now and 2020. Or Labour actually manages to re-organise itself into some coherant form.
Neither looks particularly likely so we've got ourselves Tories for another decade at least. :dead: Wonder what will be left of this country by 2025...not a lot, I'd wager. :nope:
Wonder what will be left of this country by 2025...not a lot, I'd wager. :nope:
http://www.proshieldsafetysigns.co.uk/signs/6620_signs.jpg
Eichhörnchen
11-26-15, 01:02 PM
At the Chancellor...
Opposition: "What you're doing will hurt the poor... hurt the poor..."
Chancellor: "No it won't"
Opposition: "Yes it will, it will hurt the poor... hurt the poor..."
Chancellor: "Oh alright then, I won't do it"
(Pause)
Opposition: "You're weak! You're weak!"
Gods own emissary to the Labour Party, Tony Blair, has said that he supports Camerons position on bombing in Syria.
If ever there was a reason to vote against it, there it is.... :dead:
BossMark
11-26-15, 02:24 PM
Gods own emissary to the Labour Party, Tony Blair, has said that he supports Camerons position on bombing in Syria.
If ever there was a reason to vote against it, there it is.... :dead:
Blair would probably bomb his granny, if there was something in it for him....
Ken Livingstone on BBCQT made a good point in that bombing on its own just isn't enough, and that we shouldn't get caught up in that. What we need is a concerted air and ground offensive by the UN, with Britain involved. :yep:
Jimbuna
11-27-15, 09:51 AM
Yeah, was funny seeing Ken getting ripped apart by Matt Forde over his previous stance of standing against Labour :)
Like Forde, I also left the Labour Party the day after Corbyn was elected.
Now that Jeremy has come off the fence and decided not to support Cameron over Syria despite his shadow cabinet and parliamentary members being in a majority for said action....will he do the honourable thing and step down?
I think not....he will continue to take the money and the position and resign his party into an unelectable entity for many a year to come....and that is what annoys me because I am certainly no Tory voter.
We should all pull out and defend our own countries, stupid politicians have made a right mess and all they can do is throw more petrol on the fire while they ponce around on the world stage.
I have to agree to that caller to a radio station who served in the Army.
It's time to put my money down on the betting table.
Jeremy Corbyn stand point has rocked Labour over Syria and those who do not agree with him on this and other issues don't breakaway now and form a new party they will never never breakaway.
Jimbuna
11-28-15, 09:08 AM
Corbyn is now feeling isolated over Syria with it looking increasingly likely he can't stop the wave of feeling in his shadow cabinet or parliamentary members. These members were elected by their constituents to represent hem and their views.
So what is Jeremys next move?.....He'll go to the party membership who voted for him (I received an email from him this morning, not that he got my vote and despite the fact I'm no longer a party member) and try to outflank those that were democratically elected.
You're not looking very clever in the eyes of the nation Jeremy. Time to stand down as other politicians have done in the past when failing to control their party.
Somehow I doubt you will though....seriously farcical.
JC is in charge of spineless gits who moan a groan but will not breakaway. I got more respect for the gang of four who formed the SDP.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38657000/jpg/_38657825_sdp2_300.jpg
Not just JC to blame the whole lot is a shower but don't tell the right wing press that they are too busy putting the boot in on JC, try booting the rest as well gutter press.
British politics is a sham, we got a clown in No.10 who wants to follow Blair's footsteps in blood and as for the LibDems....Where the hell are they these days? The whole political system is rotten to the core and stinks more than the days when the Thames was a open sewer!
Shapps Resigns After Tory Bullying Claims
http://news.sky.com/story/1596185/shapps-resigns-after-tory-bullying-claims
Stand by for Tory White Wash Job.
Moonlight
11-28-15, 12:18 PM
One down and one more for the chop, Lord Felman should be the next one to resign as well me thinks. The questions I ask myself is, why has Shapps resigned if he says there is no evidence of any bullying, and did Cameron tell him to resign before he was pushed.:hmmm:
As for the Labour MP's they should all hang their heads in shame, they've turned a once proud party into a bleeding laughing stock, begone with you, the whole bloody lot of you.:/\\!!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUv8qLyXIAIm106.png:large
Good opinion piece in the Grauniad:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/29/labour-mps-party-agonies-no-way-to-lose-corbyn?CMP=share_btn_tw
Jimbuna
11-29-15, 12:08 PM
Good opinion piece in the Grauniad:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/29/labour-mps-party-agonies-no-way-to-lose-corbyn?CMP=share_btn_tw
Rgr that :yep:
“We can’t go on like this.” That’s the cry now to be heard from all points of the Labour spectrum, left, right and centre.
Over throw JC or breakaway and form a new party got that you stupid farts, if you fail to act on these two choices I suggest you shut your moaning cake holes and shove it where the sun does not shine.
^The above statement is for the labour party
Jimbuna
11-30-15, 02:34 PM
Labour MPs to get free vote on Syria. I doubt he had much choice because the alternative was to be overrun with resignations from members of his own shadow cabinet as well as MP's.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34967024
Mr Corbyn's spokesman said the shadow cabinet had "accepted his recommendation" of a free vote.
Is that as much as they could muster in the 'face saving' department?
BBC chief political correspondent Vicki Young said Mr Corbyn wanted Labour to oppose air strikes, but was forced to back down by his shadow cabinet.
The leader was given a "thorough kicking" in the meeting, she was told.
Much closer to the truth I suspect.
He's got to learn that he can't have it all his way, he may have the 'the membership voted me in' line that he can use but he can't work a shadow cabinet with no-one in it. :dead:
Jimbuna
11-30-15, 03:22 PM
He's got to learn that he can't have it all his way, he may have the 'the membership voted me in' line that he can use but he can't work a shadow cabinet with no-one in it. :dead:
I'm still waiting on what the Corbyn Labour Party policies are and wondering how long it will be before the party membership grow tired of him.
Useless government useless opposition....We are truly screwed and deep in do-do.
I am wondering if Billy Connolly was right..
http://images.goodfood.com.au/2012/06/21/3392204/art-353-Billy-200x0.jpg
“The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever becoming one.”
"Don't vote. It just encourages them.... "
It's pretty rare for the Big Yin to be wrong.
So, we're 48 hours from war, although the SNP will vote against, so we'll see how many Labour members go with the Tory vote. It'll be a close run thing but I think we'll be seeing Tornados over Aleppo before the week is out.
Plus ca change, and all that.
Jimbuna
12-01-15, 10:53 AM
It will also see the introduction of the RAF Typhoons into a war zone for the first time.
It will also see the introduction of the RAF Typhoons into a war zone for the first time.
Operation Ellamy... :03:
Are they our planes or being rented out by the French? :hmmm:
Jimbuna
12-01-15, 02:24 PM
Operation Ellamy... :03:
Aye, clearly forgot the contributions of 11 then 3 Squadron :oops:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/raf-typhoons-return-from-libya-operations
And Dave goes there, we all knew it was only a matter of time before he did:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/01/cameron-accuses-corbyn-of-being-terrorist-sympathiser
And Dave goes there, we all knew it was only a matter of time before he did:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/01/cameron-accuses-corbyn-of-being-terrorist-sympathiser
This just shows how much Toff Boy wants to be on the world stage. :nope:
He would sell his wife if it got him 10 more votes.
The 2016 Budget will be held on Wednesday 16 March, Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne has told MPs.
Mr Osborne said privately don't worry about this years give away I'm going to sting these plebs with a good old tax rise along with 50 new hidden taxes and raise the price of a pint to £10. We shall soon get our money back and more he laughed..
Jimbuna
12-02-15, 05:54 AM
And Dave goes there, we all knew it was only a matter of time before he did:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/01/cameron-accuses-corbyn-of-being-terrorist-sympathiser
Well he is certainly a pacifist and has been quoted in the past regarding his support for the pond life.
This just shows how much Toff Boy wants to be on the world stage. :nope:
He would sell his wife if it got him 10 more votes.
One can only imagine what he had to sell to get all those Labour votes tonight me thinks :hmmm:
Shut up Toff Boy we are being invaded now and I want you to tell me what you are going to do about it!
Britain facing invasion of 100 million 10-inch rats this winter
http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/01/britain-facing-invasion-of-100-million-10-inch-rats-this-winter-5538343/#ixzz3tADqosvU
I saw one the other day and it was a bloody big one!
Betonov
12-02-15, 07:03 AM
Slaughter, clean, mince, make hamburger for the spoiled hipsters
Slaughter, clean, mince, make hamburger for the spoiled hipsters
Nah...people are fed up eating ratburgers.
Jimbuna
12-02-15, 10:42 AM
Watched the first few hours on the live parliamentary debate regarding the vote on bombing Syria and thought the 'terrorist sympathiser' put up a pretty good counter argument.
I still expect Cameron to win this evening though.
Say what you will about Corbyn, he talks well, all in all he's a bloody good politician...just not that much of a leader, not to a party which suffered a humiliating defeat in the last election anyway.
But yes, I think Cameron will squeeze through this vote, but I don't think it's going to be the clear majority that he wants it to be. 60/40 maybe, there does seem to be a fair few Tory members who remember Camerons own words from not that long ago...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVNk6e4WoAAiCwF.jpg:large
Toff Boy has got it in the bag another feather inserted up his arse and once he wins the vote he will be like a peacock on steroids.
Well that will bump up the UK on the hit list and once the first bomb goes off here comes more laws to take away our freedom and rights. :nope:
I do not trust this HagFish Cameron who wants to be on the world stage look at me Mr Big.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
Dr Cameron Death wins
FOR 397
AGAINST 223
MAJORITY 174
MUNITIONS STOCKPILE: 4
Toff Boy Cameron will be poking the pig tonight.
National debt will rise even more now. :nope:
Hey as we are one step nearer to nuclear holocaust, time for a quick song.
All out Super Power Confrontation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg2z4pmmY18
Watching SKY News at the moment and some Tory Bitch spouting a load of BS like shes some kind of expert! :nope:
Moonlight
12-02-15, 10:52 PM
Well if Isis or whatever you want to call them have plans to attack the UK in anyway they can start with those warmongering MPs of ours first.
That Cameron pillock is a pig shagging moron. :yep:
I like the way the media reporting we will be bombing in days! Try as soon as the vote was passed, that pig poker could not wait one extra second to get stuck in.
Jimbuna
12-03-15, 08:57 AM
Hilary Benn, next Labor Party leader?
His speech:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2015/dec/03/hilary-benn-airstrikes-vote-speech-full-must-confront-isis-evil-video
Moonlight
12-04-15, 05:32 AM
Farage Blames Immigrants And Postal Votes For Crushing Defeat In Oldham By-Election
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/
Oldham West and Royton by-election
Ok folks little confused here, yes we all knew labour would win but I'm hearing reports they have increased their majority.
General election results
Michael Meacher 23,630 votes, turn out 59.6%
By-Election resuluts
Jim McMahon 17,209 votes, turn out just over 40%
So why am I hearing this...Bigger Majority than the general election? :hmmm:
Excuse me less votes less turn out does not make a bigger majority or have I missed something here?
Jimbuna
12-04-15, 08:31 AM
The terrorist sympathiser must be well pleased.
Here you go jim to put on top of your Xmas tree.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/13845584.All_I_want_for_Christmas___is_a_Jeremy_Co rbyn_tree_topper/
Jimbuna
12-05-15, 09:52 AM
The dog should have fun chewing that on christmas morning :)
Here's one for your photo album :03:
http://i.imgur.com/eRCnDjN.jpg
http://www.link2portal.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/lead_image_600/DavidCameronEconomy600.jpg
Dave response to the news jim has joined the Tory Party.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/10/tumblr_mnmdyziYQJ1stzhzno3_500.jpg
Now jim is with us Tories we can wipe out Labour once and for all for a better brighter UK under the Tories forever.
Jimbuna
12-06-15, 09:47 AM
Nope, Jim is not with the Tories and never will be and Labour are wiping themselves out without the need for any help from anybody else.
http://meatgrinder.co/photos/david-cameron/dc-bdavefacts-smiling-d8e666e306e193b6c67513fa97771996-smaller-340667.jpg
Now now jim don't be bashful being a member of the Tory party is the best thing in the world. Don't forget our lunch appointment at your local curry house, really looking forward to it.
(((((BREAKING NEWS)))))
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tcwxS9O7ahU/0.jpg
The PM is telling porkies I tell you, jim is a fully paid up member of the SNP.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/10/00/2880CAF300000578-0-image-m-46_1431214269358.jpg
10 years of Super Cameron fighting the evil poor and sick in order to save the banks from these grubby evil low life.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UiBpiqe8wdo/S8mly_-wywI/AAAAAAAAE0k/9WZB0s1zg9o/s1600/Who+has+David+Cameron+been+talking+to-_1271506254562.png
Jimbuna
12-06-15, 09:10 PM
So why aren't Labour in power?
Moonlight
12-07-15, 09:00 AM
^ You need to ask Milliband that one, and then you can ask all the Labour Mps who backed him up the same question. :hmph:
Jimbuna
12-08-15, 06:15 AM
^ probably a waste of time asking Ed anything, David was the one I was regularly in close contact with and IMHO the one who should have won the leadership contest had the unions not stabbed him in the back.
A petition calling for Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump to be barred from entering UK has gathered more than 200,000 names, so MPs will have to consider debating the issue.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35052505
What a joke, no blood on his hands unlike the Chinese and Saudi Arabians who can come in to the UK.
Just plain farcical.
Jimbuna
12-09-15, 11:28 AM
Just imagine the scenario....Trump is banned from entering the UK then later becomes POTUS :doh:
Just imagine the scenario....Trump is banned from entering the UK then later becomes POTUS :doh:
That would interesting. :hmm2:
Come on people he clearly likes giving it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75SEy1qu71I
Roll over Alan Sugar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apprentice_(U.S._TV_series)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/18/article-0-048297760000044D-287_468x345.jpg
TRUMP..YOU'RE FIRED!
If Trump becomes President, we'd probably be better off slinging our lot in with Putin. :doh: Or becoming a protectorate of the Peoples Republic of China.
Jimbuna
12-10-15, 10:29 AM
Nah, Trump would still protect England. Not too sure about Scotland though :)
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has hailed the strength of the UK recovery
http://news.sky.com/story/1604108/imf-hails-uk-growth-but-warns-on-brexit-risk
Tell me this wonderful recovery are they aware the service sector which in most part is banking?
Shame the rest of the sectors are stagnate or very low progress, never mind.
The British Chambers of Commerce (BCC) has downgraded its UK gross domestic product (GDP) growth forecast for the year to 2.4 per cent, from a previous prediction of 2.6 per cent.
At the same time its scaled back expectations for the next to years with 2016 and 2017 now both forecast for 2.5 per cent growth, from 2.7 per cent previously.
http://www.cityam.com/230482/uk-manufacturing-in-terminal-decline-as-growth-rate-revised-down-through-to-2017
Jimbuna
12-12-15, 10:33 AM
Labour will not accept abuse and intimidation "from whatever quarter it comes", Jeremy Corbyn has warned.
His comments came in an email to members after a fresh row erupted over alleged bullying of MPs who voted to bomb so-called Islamic State in Syria.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34993447
I sincerely wish I could believe him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34993447
I sincerely wish I could believe him.
He will have to act or the opposition in his own ranks may see this a opportunity for a Spring challenge to his leadership. That is too say if they got the guts to go ahead or continual to moan and groan from the side lines.
Jimbuna
12-12-15, 11:33 AM
He will have to act or the opposition in his own ranks may see this a opportunity for a Spring challenge to his leadership. That is too say if they got the guts to go ahead or continual to moan and groan from the side lines.
It's the loony left I'm more concerned about than Corbyn.
He has created a monster that will soon be out of control, particularly when the selection process begins in advance of the next general election.
Received my xmas card from the local constituency party this morning....they still haven't updated their membership records.
It's the loony left I'm more concerned about than Corbyn.
He has created a monster that will soon be out of control, particularly when the selection process begins in advance of the next general election.
That could upset the Monster raving loony party...How dare Labour muscle in on their act. :03:
Received my xmas card from the local constituency party this morning....they still haven't updated their membership records.
No good for toilet paper or keeping warm. :D
ExFishermanBob
12-12-15, 03:03 PM
Nah, Trump would still protect England. Not too sure about Scotland though :)
I dunno - his mother was a "Leosaich", from the islands...oh, hang on a minute - that makes his family immigrants!
^What about those Welsh sheep.....:hmm2:
Forget it I'm sure old ToffBoy will protect them. :shifty: :haha:
Jimbuna
12-13-15, 11:06 AM
I dunno - his mother was a "Leosaich", from the islands...oh, hang on a minute - that makes his family immigrants!
His mother was a Scottish immigrant from the Isle of Lewis but more importantly (at this moment in time)...
Following his comments earlier this week, Ms Sturgeon stripped him of his ambassador role in Scotland.
On Thursday she went a step further and urged Home Secretary Theresa May to "consider" singing anti-extremism laws to block him from entering the UK.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nicola-sturgeon-joins-calls-for-donald-trump-to-be-banned-from-the-uk-a6768461.html
His mother was a Scottish immigrant from the Isle of Lewis but more importantly (at this moment in time)...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nicola-sturgeon-joins-calls-for-donald-trump-to-be-banned-from-the-uk-a6768461.html
On Thursday she went a step further and urged Home Secretary Theresa May to "consider" singing anti-extremism laws to block him from entering the UK.
With bagpipe accompanyment I hope. :yep:
Osborne accused of 'buckling to pressure' from banks on accountability
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/osborne-accused-buckling-pressure-banks-accountability-152500573.html?bcmt_s=m#wAeqh3i
As the saying goes we the banks will continual to operate above the law as we run the world.
Jimbuna
12-14-15, 02:10 PM
With bagpipe accompanyment I hope. :yep:
:):oops::shifty:
Jimbuna
12-15-15, 09:18 AM
'David Cameron congratulates Tim Peake on being first UK astronaut in over 20 years'
Tim Peake: "You're the reason I left mate."
Did any TAX payer's money pay for this space trip? :hmm2:
If so its a bloody disgrace wasting money that is needed on far more important areas.
David Cameron cannot deliver the EU reforms he wants without treaty changes - and he will not get them before before a referendum, MPs have warned.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35098433
Clearly HagFish Toff Boy just wanted to strut his stuff look at me I'm a big boy on the EU stage came first and demands last, So what is new with the smoke and mirrors Tories nothing that I can see.
Jimbuna
12-15-15, 10:13 AM
I reckon the vote will go in favour of leaving.
I reckon the vote will go in favour of leaving.
And if it does...
Referendum 2
The Great Re-Run
Gids take a look...
Starbucks paid less corporation tax in the UK this year - in a period when its profits rose to a record level.
The US-owned coffee chain - whose tax affairs have proved controversial in the past - contributed £8.1m to the Exchequer for the year to 27 September, down from £11.4m the year before.
But the figure, revealed in the firm's latest annual results, was still well ahead of many previous years.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/starbucks-tax-bill-falls-profits-rise-155557512.html#QKnrWAz
Well you going to let them off Gids?
Jimbuna
12-16-15, 09:06 AM
PMq's were interesting today, Jeremy wouldn't welcome the ris in people getting back to work despite being asked repeatedly to do so.
Admittedly I turned the tv off before the end but I doubt he did later.
PMq's were interesting today, Jeremy wouldn't welcome the ris in people getting back to work despite being asked repeatedly to do so.
Admittedly I turned the tv off before the end but I doubt he did later.
Just watching it now, will post soon..
The NHS is under orders to kick people out asap to meet targets!
Strong growing economy based on what, apart from the banking sector I ask?
I would like to know how many unemployed are on projects like the work program which removes them off the figures and yet are still technically out of work.
Petrol prices are down due to Saudi Arabia is wagging a war on America's shale oil.
If we are doing so well as Dave keeps banging on about why are interest rates not going up? Every time I hear that moron Mark Carney Head of the BoE he comes out yes they will this year twice and has back peddled and put them back to what looks like 2017 as it stands.
Career Politicians worst kind. :damn:
The usual mix of BS lies and twisted facts which we all can look forward to next year....Crud.
Labour MP Willing To 'Knife Corbyn In Front'
Holy Cow, really! :huh:
http://news.sky.com/story/1605569/labour-mp-willing-to-knife-corbyn-in-front
Over to you jim. :)
Moonlight
12-16-15, 02:19 PM
PMq's were interesting today, Jeremy wouldn't welcome the ris in people getting back to work despite being asked repeatedly to do so.
Admittedly I turned the tv off before the end but I doubt he did later.
The Tory party are crowing about working people being on minimum wage or zero hours contracts are they, :stare: those bleeding MP's should be ashamed of themselves, but as I already know, they don't have a clue as to what the word shame means. :/\\!!
The Tory party are crowing about working people being on minimum wage or zero hours contracts are they, :stare: those bleeding MP's should be ashamed of themselves, but as I already know, they don't have a clue as to what the word shame means. :/\\!!
I am seriously thinking becoming a non voter but I will still visit the polling station to write my disgust on the ballot paper(s).
I would like to a massive shake up of our political system but as I have said so many many times....It's never going to happen. :damn:
I am seriously thinking becoming a non voter but I will still visit the polling station to write my disgust on the ballot paper(s).
Well I had a good think and I am forced to join the ranks of the non voters until I see improvement in our political system and the end of the lies the BS the backhanders and all the rest that has destroyed our politics I will never vote again.
But as said above I will let them know on voting day I am sick of them all.
Jimbuna
12-17-15, 09:25 AM
No doubt Cameron will be appreciative seeing as how that is now one less vote for Jeremy.
No doubt Cameron will be appreciative seeing as how that is now Two less vote for Jeremy.
Your vote as well jim. :)
In my case no party is getting my vote until we have return to democracy and not this fools dream.
The European Union's two most senior officials have cast doubt on David Cameron's chances of agreement on his key demand for EU reform.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35118036
Place your bets for..
A. Back Down
B. Cop Out
C. Watered Down
D. Back Burner
E. A to D
Jimbuna
12-17-15, 11:59 AM
C. Watered Down
ExFishermanBob
12-17-15, 12:44 PM
I was going to put A to D and then noticed option E. So E.
I'll get my coat. :O:
Where is BossMark these days?
I can't keep doing all the Tory bashing around here I need a day off. :) :03:
http://en.protothema.gr/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ImageHandler17-820x418.jpg
Jimbuna
12-18-15, 07:01 AM
David Cameron has said there is a "a pathway to a deal" on new terms for Britain's membership of the EU after talks with other leaders.
I'm not sure I trust or believe him.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the leaders "all want a compromise".
The first three asks have probably been agreed to but the fourth one, the one regarding welfare payment delays for immigrants for four years is the one requiring 'compromise'.
Cameron will probably eventually try selling a one or two year delay to the electorate but I doubt that will sway them or many of his backbenchers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35128648
David Cameron has said the UK will "fundamentally change" its relationship with the EU in 2016, after talks with EU leaders in Brussels.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35135049
David Cameron is a member of the bilderberg group and that group is pro EU so how the hell can he say he represents the voters of the UK or Great Britain? I will never trust him and his double talk as his interests lay within the EU and not the UK.
Fubar2Niner
12-18-15, 02:23 PM
I'm not sure I trust or believe him..
@Jim
Trust or belief... ????????????
Mate I am staggered, since when has toff boy been either of the two. He and his ilk are the downfall of this great nation.
Best regards mate.
Martin
Here is the recent GDP growth:
Q1 2014 0.9%
Q2 2014 0.8%
Q3 2014 0.7%
Q4 2014 0.6%
Q1 2015 0.3%
Q2 2015 0.7%
Q3 2015 0.5%
A "No Vote" is actually a vote for the one we/you don't want. You have to vote for someone even if they're the lesser of 2 evils.
I can tell you right now, if Hillary gets in we'll be in the same boat as with Obama. She is all for her and no one else. She didn't do a dam thing for NY when she was a Senator. Arkansas didn't want the Clintons back so that's the reason they emigrated to NY. I think NY was the only place that would take them but as refugees only. LOL
BTW... if you remember, the Electoral College is the system that actually puts the POTUS in office. They lie when they say the people are the ones that elect him. Check and see how many times the POTUS was elected by the EC and not the people. It's not many but it does happen and could again in this election.
Like the media hamming up another on going UKIP spat, who cares its the same old dribble. The media should kick Hag Fish up the backside for his useless actions which prove he is pro EU.
Jimbuna
12-19-15, 07:06 AM
I'm waiting to see how he will spin anything less than a four year ban on welfare benefits as a win to the voters.
The Lord of Darkness has placed all his eggs in the corrupt banking industry and claims Britain is open for business.
Most UK-based economists disagree with Osborne's fiscal plans - survey
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-budget-idUKKBN0U11V520151218
BossMark Free Beer
Hope this brings him back. :)
Jimbuna
12-19-15, 11:12 AM
He's on holiday with Jeremy in a winter dacha somewhere.
He's on holiday with Jeremy in a winter dacha somewhere.
http://static2.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-fired-wide-3.jpg
You can bet your arse BossMark and I are going to get rat-arsed on beer.
I'll vote to leave the EU, says former minister Liam Fox
He urged David Cameron "to end the pretence" of EU renegotiation and back an "out" vote at the referendum.
Dr Fox also said cabinet members should be able to campaign for an EU exit without having to resign - despite disagreeing with the prime minister.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35144859
Toff Boy will be angry at this.
Jimbuna
12-20-15, 08:42 AM
Most brave Liam....for a Tory that is.
Heseltine Strikes Back!
Lord Heseltine has warned of a "civil war" in the Conservative Party if cabinet ministers are given a free vote in the EU referendum.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35150356
Government borrowing figures were worse than expected in November, casting doubts over whether the chancellor will meet forecasts for this financial year.
Borrowing for the month was £14.2bn, up by £1.3bn compared with November 2014.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35159560
Chancellor George Osborne was reported saying who cares me and my banker chums its boom time again.
Lords' Speaker claims hundreds of pounds expenses for chauffeur-driven Mercedes
The Speaker of the House of Lords racked up a £230 bill keeping a chauffeur-driven car waiting for some four hours while she watched an opera a mile from Parliament.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lords-speaker-claims-hundreds-pounds-expenses-chauffeur-driven-121438143.html
WTF! :nope:
Jimbuna
12-22-15, 03:27 PM
Even more scandalous...
Some hospital trusts make millions a year from car parks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35157425
Catfish
12-22-15, 04:40 PM
Well, that would be pretty impossible within the EU, no wonder England wants to leave :O:
On second thought though, that would exactly be what the EU would introduce .. so why does England want tom leave :hmmm:
Jimbuna
12-23-15, 10:50 AM
Watched a news programme last night and it was stated that the EU employs 55.000 staff :o
Watched a news programme last night and it was stated that the EU employs 55.000 staff :o
Nah...more like 75,000 after all their own accounts don't add up and that's why their books have not been audited for the last 20 years. :03:
Here is the recent GDP growth:
Q1 2014 0.9%
Q2 2014 0.8%
Q3 2014 0.7%
Q4 2014 0.6%
Q1 2015 0.3%
Q2 2015 0.7%
Q3 2015 0.4% < revised down 0.1% on today's news.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35167642
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/353-osborne-scrooge.jpg
Ho Ho Bloody Ho.....
Coming in 2016..
https://www.readies.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/osborne.jpg
Here's George, now who is laughing you b'stards!
http://leftfootforward.org/images/2010/01/David-Cameron-Gideon-Osborne.jpg
BossMark come on I need you to slag off the Tories before the year is out
BossMark
12-24-15, 03:07 AM
Britain's economic woes could be solved at a stroke......if only George Osborne would have one!
^The Ice Man is Back. :yeah:
http://www.80tokes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/b31.jpg
http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/69639/1443034412/cameronct.jpg
HagFish Toff Boy delivers his Xmas message and is caught saying..I'm shagging this pig later tonight.
I think we should redouble our Tory bashing next year these B'stard's got off to lightly this year.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/resources/images/4548959/
Stinking poor I hate them all, I'm off to count my money take a bath in champaign and poke the pig...
Jimbuna
12-25-15, 09:34 AM
http://i.imgur.com/D45a9Sl.jpg
I found HagFish ToffBoy's Xmas message a steaming pile of BS lies and insults so true to form coming from a Tory scumbag.
BossMark will have these on tomorrow hoping Toff Boy will drop by. :D
http://www.rapiraboxing.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Boxing-Gloves.jpg
Jimbuna
12-26-15, 07:08 AM
http://i.imgur.com/B3iLldl.jpg
Coming in 2016
The Second coming of Cameron
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/18/16/27B0DF5200000578-3044865-image-a-76_1429372234746.jpg
BUGGER!
The Prime Minister David Cameron said we will do what ever it takes to help out the flooded areas up North and was pleased on hearing the news no pigs were lost in the floods. :shifty: :03:
Jimbuna
12-27-15, 11:23 AM
http://i.imgur.com/n3I3GSl.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IK-lBl9BHaE/VVPbpq7mjkI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/N18i3mFGYJ4/s1600/CameronINGSOC.png
Big Brother Dave is watching every move you make
David Cameron has defended the government's spending on flood defences following widespread devastation across parts of northern England.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35190896
Clearly most of the spending is going on investigation committees that drag on for a good six months then release its findings in a 1500 page report telling us what we already know. :damn:
But we've always been at war with Eastasia!
But we've always been at war with Eastasia!
A....? :-?
Oh I see...:har:
Just got up, still knacked! :dead:
Hilary Benn could loose his position in a cabinet re-shuffle next year.
http://news.sky.com/story/1613803/labour-reshuffle-benns-future-questioned
Well he really got his boss angry with that speech, we shall see.
Jimbuna
12-29-15, 09:48 AM
Just wait for the night of the long knives when the loony left start the push to de-select the moderate MP's prior to the next general election.
Indeed, we haven't seen the last of the Labour civil war yet, not by a long shot.
Jimbuna
12-29-15, 01:20 PM
I'm wondering if the bookies would offer any odds on Gideon becoming next PM.
I'm wondering if the bookies would offer any odds on Gideon becoming next PM.
Odds can't be too bad for it, either him or Bojo. Let's face it, Gideon wouldn't have thrown his entire 'austerity' budget in the dustbin and u-turned on tax credits if he wasn't trying to win popularity points. Bojo has the advantage of being...well...Boris, and he hasn't dropped any huge clangers as Mayor that have tarnished his reputation amongst the middle of the road voters, whereas Gideon has been Chancellor of the Cuts, so he'll have to work hard to lose that reputation.
Could go either way at the moment I think. :hmmm:
Jimbuna
12-29-15, 01:38 PM
I honestly don't see Boris being taken seriously enough by the electorate, especially those outside of London to be a serious contender.
We thought the same about Corbyn once, remember? :O: :03:
Jimbuna
12-29-15, 01:58 PM
True that :yep:
First budget is always a sort of thanks for voting us in. :O:
BJ GO TM candidates in the waiting room but there could be more on the way later.
This could be interesting..:hmmm:
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has challenged David Cameron to take part in an annual TV "state of the nation" debate.
http://news.sky.com/story/1613578/corbyn-challenges-pm-to-annual-tv-debate
David Cameron's policy chief has apologised "unreservedly" over remarks he made about black communities days after the 1985 Broadwater Farm riot in north London.
In a newly-released memo, Oliver Letwin - then adviser to Margaret Thatcher - blamed unrest on "bad moral attitudes".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35192265
Bet old Jeremy Corbyn is pleased to get a day off.
Tawdry and tainted: just some of the scornful descriptions of a New Year's Honours list which has left David Cameron accused of cronyism and rewarding failed bureaucrats.
http://news.sky.com/story/1614735/controversial-gongs-for-crosby-and-hmrc-boss
Newspaper covers for Thursday...
http://news.sky.com/gallery/1614464/thursdays-newspaper-front-pages
I can not say I am that surprised and yet these gongs for years have been handed out left right centre to who ever, just a yearly joke.
Simon Danczuk, the outspoken Labour MP with a colourful private life, has been suspended from the Labour Party after being accused of sending inappropriate texts to a 17-year-old girl.
http://news.sky.com/story/1614739/mp-simon-danczuk-suspended-from-labour-party
Dirty sod.
STOP CAMERON spending British taxpayers’ money on Pro-EU Referendum leaflets
Petition
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116762
One for BossMark.
Vote no confidence in David Cameron
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/104471
Jimbuna
12-31-15, 11:24 AM
Labour's Simon Danczuk suspended over 'inappropriate behaviour'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35204398
Labour's Simon Danczuk suspended over 'inappropriate behaviour'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35204398
Beat you to it. :O:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2369903&postcount=4768
HERE WE GO, SAME OLD THREAD NEW YEAR..
First up for 2016..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35207859
In a new year message, the PM says he is determined to "secure our future" with the EU referendum, which could be held in 2016.
I will say this here and now if we get the vote and Toff Boy looses he will do Irish number on us to get what he wants.
Jeremy Corbyn says 2016 will mark the "start of the journey" towards a Labour government.
Sorry Jeremy you are too old with a doggy background and if you let the extreme loonies rule the roost that will increase the Tory vote, think about it.
I was in a ok mood until I saw that HagFish ToffBoy spouting out his guff on the news with his new years message. Way to go ToffBoy you really know what buttons to press to get me in a bad mood. :damn:
BossMark
01-01-16, 10:11 AM
I was in a ok mood until I saw that HagFish ToffBoy spouting out his guff on the news with his new years message. Way to go ToffBoy you really know what buttons to press to get me in a bad mood. :damn:
Made my hangover 100 times worse :nope:
Jimbuna
01-01-16, 11:22 AM
Cameron
David Cameron says 2016 will be a "game-changer" for the UK, pledging reforms to home ownership and a crackdown on extremism.
Sounds sensible and encouraging.
Corbyn
Jeremy Corbyn said 2016 would mark the "start of the journey" towards a Labour government.
Delusional.
David Cameron says 2016 will be a "game-changer" for the UK, pledging reforms to home ownership and a crackdown on extremism.
Cameron
Sounds sensible and encouraging.
Sounds like a load of BS to me, Osborne's Ponzi scam based on the subprime mortgage scam is now in trouble and like all Ponzi scams sooner or later they come crashing down. As for his so called crack down with that daft old May at the helm yea....:/\\!!
http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6495816.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/David-Cameron-memes-on-PigGate.jpg
To big post here..
http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/65077/1442914595/swining.jpg
Penalties for people who drop litter could reach as much as £150 under plans set out by the Department for Communities and Local Government.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35212696
You have to catch them first doing it. I got nothing against the idea but how can you enforce it just like using a mobile phone while driving which I see every week.
Jimbuna
01-02-16, 06:20 AM
You throw some litter down in front of a LEA and you'll soon find out matey.
No power of arrest though.
You throw some litter down in front of a LEA and you'll soon find out matey.
Just appeal against the decision on the grounds no photo evidence no proof.
Moving on....
Prediction time for 2016
Four questions for everyone, predictions close on Jan 23rd you got three weeks.
1. Do think Jeremy Corbyn will still be leader of the Labour Party at the end of the year?
2. Which party do you think is going to be the biggest winner of the local elections?
3. Who will be the new London Mayor?
4.Will we get the EU referendum vote this year?
Here is mind
1. Yes
2. Labour (Long shot but may do it on the grounds of the recent flooding)
3. Sadiq Khan (Labour)
4. No
Winner gets to be a right royal smug git. :smug:
Flood defences "overwhelmed" by recent record rainfall will be fixed and bolstered in a £40m package of spending, the prime minister has said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35213884
Plenty of flood victims have said things I can not repeat here so here is my edited short version.
Liar....Yea same old story.
NEXT..
Osborne 'Lacks Motivation' On Bank Reform
http://news.sky.com/story/1615945/osborne-lacks-motivation-on-bank-reform
To busy kissing their corrupt arses and as for the FCA I suggest you grow some sharp teeth you useless gummy organization.
The Tory lies and BS continual onward into 2016. :damn:
BossMark
01-03-16, 09:59 AM
1. Yes
2. Labour
3. Sadiq Khan (Labour)
4. No simple reason I do not believe a word toffboy says....
Jimbuna
01-03-16, 11:44 AM
1. Yes
2. Labour
3. Sadiq Khan (Labour)
4. Yes
1. No
2. Conservative by a slim amount
3. Khan (Labour)
4. No, it'll be 2017.
I don't think Labour will do as well as they think they will in the local elections and that will spark a leadership challenge in Labour later in the year, Corbyn may well find himself being ousted by someone close to him, Watso-D2 perhaps, but I doubt it'll go to another leadership vote.
The Tories won't do as well as they hoped either, but they won't do as bad as they feared either. The North will swing back towards Labour, but the south will stay Tory. Meanwhile Pigman will delay the EU referendum as much as he can, but it'll be before May 2017, so probably March or April. UKIP will struggle to return to their glory days, because half of their energy will be expended trying to control the PR disaster that is Carswell vs Farage, eventually, perhaps after the EU referendum, Farage will stand down and go into a career in TV, who will replace him is anyones best guess. One of the downsides of having only one card in your deck that can actually do anything. :hmmm:
Just putting the questions and answer in one place, saves going up and down. :)
Prediction time for 2016
Four questions for everyone, predictions close on Jan 23rd you got three weeks.
1. Do think Jeremy Corbyn will still be leader of the Labour Party at the end of the year?
2. Which party do you think is going to be the biggest winner of the local elections?
3. Who will be the new London Mayor?
4.Will we get the EU referendum vote this year?
Predictions
STEED
1. Yes
2. Labour (Long shot but may do it on the grounds of the recent flooding)
3. Sadiq Khan (Labour)
4. No
BossMark
1. Yes
2. Labour
3. Sadiq Khan (Labour)
4. No simple reason I do not believe a word toffboy says....
Jimbuna
1. Yes
2. Labour
3. Sadiq Khan (Labour)
4. Yes
Oberon
1. No
2. Conservative by a slim amount
3. Khan (Labour)
4. No, it'll be 2017.
Anyone else what to have ago feel free and I will update this section.
Jimbuna
01-05-16, 01:48 PM
David Cameron is to allow ministers to campaign for either side in the referendum once a deal is reached on the UK's relationship with the EU.
He said the UK government would make a recommendation to the British people on which way to vote in the referendum.
But he told MPs "it will be open to individual ministers to take a different, personal decision while remaining part of the government".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35230959
Well done that man.
Now over on the other side of the house...
Michael Dugher has told BBC News he was sacked by Jeremy Corbyn for speaking up for colleagues who had been "trashed" by members of the Labour leader's team.
The ex-shadow culture secretary is the first - and so far only - casualty of Mr Corbyn's front bench reshuffle.
Probably finding it hard to find anyone that agrees with his political madness.
Shadow defence secretary Maria Eagle has been told that she will be moved.
A planned meeting of the shadow cabinet at lunchtime was cancelled as the changes are taking longer than planned.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35220413
David Cameron is to allow ministers to campaign for either side in the referendum once a deal is reached on the UK's relationship with the EU.
He said the UK government would make a recommendation to the British people on which way to vote in the referendum.
But he told MPs "it will be open to individual ministers to take a different, personal decision while remaining part of the government".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35230959
Well done that man.
Cop out jim cop out, Toffboy threw a bone to his cabinet ministers to prevent major splits and resignations. Clearly Toff Boy will bend over for them to keep them all happy but do it again and those who are gunning for his job will smell blood and turn on him.
And now todays news..
Three Labour MPs have quit the party's front bench in protest at sackings made by Jeremy Corbyn in his reshuffle.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35239232
No real big deal but as usual another labour story blasted into orbit for the rest of the week.
The amount of money being borrowed by consumers in the run-up to Christmas rose by £1.5bn, the largest rise for nearly eight years.
In November, consumers owed a total of £178.2bn on credit cards and loans, figures from the Bank of England show.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35222090
WTF..is the matter with people in this country? You do not spend money you do not have and you don't borrow money on things like Christmas! You fools between the lot of you are driving up the personal collective debt and this plays right in to the hands of HagFish ToffBoy, on one hand he can walk around like a peacock on heat, wooo..look at the service sector boom times are here. And on the other hand no need to end austerity cuts after all those below the rich are dirt. :hulk:
Jimbuna
01-06-16, 11:15 AM
Here is a full list of Labour's shadow cabinet, following party leader Jeremy Corbyn's reshuffle.
Leader of the Opposition - Jeremy Corbyn
Deputy leader, party chair and shadow Cabinet Office minister - Tom Watson
Shadow first secretary of state, shadow business, innovation and skills secretary - Angela Eagle
Shadow chancellor - John McDonnell
Shadow chief Treasury secretary - Seema Malhotra
Shadow home secretary - Andy Burnham
Shadow foreign secretary - Hilary Benn
Opposition chief whip - Rosie Winterton
Shadow health secretary - Heidi Alexander
Shadow education secretary - Lucy Powell
Shadow work and pensions secretary - Owen Smith
Shadow defence secretary - Emily Thornberry
Shadow lord chancellor, shadow justice secretary - Lord Falconer of Thoroton
Shadow communities and local government secretary - Jon Trickett
Shadow energy and climate change secretary - Lisa Nandy
Shadow Commons leader - Chris Bryant
Shadow transport secretary - Lilian Greenwood
Shadow Northern Ireland secretary - Vernon Coaker
Shadow international development secretary - Diane Abbott
Shadow Scotland secretary - Ian Murray
Shadow Wales secretary - Nia Griffith
Shadow environment, food and rural affairs secretary - Kerry McCarthy
Shadow women and equalities minister - Kate Green
Shadow culture, media and sport secretary - Maria Eagle
Shadow young people and voter registration minister - Gloria De Piero
Shadow mental health minister - Luciana Berger
Shadow Lords leader - Baroness Smith of Basildon
Lords chief whip - Lord Bassam of Brighton
Shadow attorney general - Catherine McKinnell
Shadow minister without portfolio - Jonathan Ashworth
Shadow housing and planning minister - John Healey
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35239660
I've only ever rated three or four at most.....weak as water.
All that matters is the government of the day as they are the b'stards who run....sorry screw up the country with their BS and lies, just depends on how big those lies and BS is. :shifty:
Jimbuna
01-07-16, 09:58 AM
I truly believe that the alternative is also of paramount consideration/importance and what we currently have is a leader of the opposition party who can only count on the support of approximately ten per cent of his elected members, those who were elected by their constituents to represent them and their views.
That is rather frightening in my estimation.
Well well well...
The Chancellor warns the economy could be hit by China's fiscal problems, falling oil prices and the Middle East crisis.
Everyone else but you Gids?
And attacking Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and shadow chancellor John McDonnell, he said Britain must not "go back to the bad old ways" of spending beyond its means....
WTF!
I already made a comment on this here..http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2371189&postcount=4789
You are talking utter crap Gids! Its happening now under you're watch you pillock!
Jimbuna
01-08-16, 09:30 AM
I hope there is no backlash planned for the sick and disabled.
Disability benefit assessments have doubled in cost to £579m a year but targets are still being missed, the National Audit Office has said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35256386
http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Untitled-2261.jpg
https://streetdemocracy.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/929a4-385294_195107567306966_1850351962_n.jpg
https://johnnyvoid.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/ids-i-dont-care-whos-died.jpg
http://www.intmensorg.com/images/ianduncansmith.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wGJ_V1NEU2o/UrNJTxHni8I/AAAAAAAANFw/yv8c8Q-Ugh8/s1600/Ian+duncan+smith-1407291.jpg
IDS is the most vile evil man in the tory party.
The Times headline..
Livingstone ‘running the Labour leadership’
Is this true Jim? :hmmm:
Jimbuna
01-09-16, 08:35 AM
The Times headline..
Is this true Jim? :hmmm:
You may recall I have met him several times in the past but I never had his mobile number.
I have enquired of a usually reliable source and even they aren't sure but what I will say is that in my estimation he is far more astute and capable of leading the opposition than Corbyn is but should this turn out to be eventually proven it will do nothing more than further destroy any credibility Labour have remaining.
Totally counter-productive IMHO.
I do agree old Ken is more on the ball, yes he has made clanger remarks in the past but some of those remarks were blown up by the press. Old Ken is on LBC Saturday morning 10-12 with yes that David. :)
I am wondering as you say old JC may have left the door open for the crazy side of Labour. Only time will tell.. :hmm2:
Jimbuna
01-09-16, 11:08 AM
The real problem IMHO is that JC is genuinely convinced he has a mandate for change, based on the fact those who paid a one-off fee of £3 to vote took great advantage, passed over to them by Ed of all people.
As long as JC has said support he probably won't flinch at dragging the party down further.
Surely if the guy had half a brain he would realise he is unelectable.
I say all the above as a former party member of over fifteen years standing and one who could never vote Tory.
Surely if the guy had half a brain he would realise he is unelectable.
I think he knows he will not win the next general election behind the scenes but up front in public he has to say we are going to win. If he turned around to the media and said we are not going to win and that is a fact result would be a big fall off of votes.
Great example..
"We also do cut-glass sherry decanters complete with six glasses on a silver-plated tray that your butler can serve you drinks on, all for £4.95. People say, "How can you sell this for such a low price?", I say, "because it's total crap"
Nice one Gerald Ratner. :03:
As it stands there is no opposition to the Tories as Labour looks like going backwards and the Liberals are back to square one. UKIP and the Greens could be on the rise but that rise is going to take years and worst still the electro systems stinks!
The Labour Party needs a "period of calm" in the wake of resignations during Jeremy Corbyn's cabinet reshuffle, Lord Falconer has said.
The shadow justice secretary told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show the cabinet changes had been "an amazing distraction" from the country's issues.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35275631
Maybe the press will move their eye over to the Tories as they seem to be split over the EU.
BossMark
01-10-16, 10:25 AM
David Cameron has proposed parenting classes to help deal with unruly children.
Step 1: try leaving them in a pub.
Jimbuna
01-10-16, 10:52 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35275631
Maybe the press will move their eye over to the Tories as they seem to be split over the EU.
Far more mileage in that JC-run comedy show me thinks.
Far more mileage in that JC-run comedy show me thinks.
Speaking of which....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYY5CmxW8AAQTfA.jpg:large
Corbyn got his twitter account hacked.
Jimbuna
01-11-16, 06:35 AM
Aye, had a good laugh whilst having my first can after work last night:)
Sadly, they could well be true :hmm2:
Speaking of which....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYY5CmxW8AAQTfA.jpg:large
Corbyn got his twitter account hacked.
Could have come up with something funny, what they posted is so 1980's.
Moving on....
Shadow attorney general Catherine McKinnell has resigned from the shadow cabinet, citing concerns over Labour's direction under Jeremy Corbyn.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35281203
The rats are leaving the sinking ship quote comes to mind. :hmm2:
Jimbuna
01-11-16, 12:15 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35281203
The rats are leaving the sinking ship quote comes to mind. :hmm2:
On the contrary....the sane rats are leaving the sinking ship before the king rat can infect them.
If it keeps going on at this rate I can see you having a pick at which shadow cabinet post you fancy having a crack at.
As said in the past don't like JC breakaway form a new labour party.
Social Labour party of the UK and NI. :)
That is what happen in the 80's....SDP.
Jimbuna
01-11-16, 12:38 PM
Labour Party finances may soon be drying up when the new union legislation regarding automatic political levy payments comes into being.
British industrial output suffered its sharpest fall in almost two years in November and retail spending disappointed over Christmas, denting hopes that the economy bounced back from a mid-year slowdown at the end of 2015.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-idUKKCN0UQ10E20160112
Hang on old Gids said last year all is going well, clearly people need to spend more and rack up more their personal debt. Signs are 2016 the fuse is lit question is will it go bang in 2016. :hmmm:
I would say probably not unless something big happens that said another big down turn is on the way.
British retail spending over the crucial Christmas period recorded its weakest quarterly growth in more than a year as stores competed to offer discounts, industry data showed on Tuesday.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-retail-brc-idUKKCN0UQ0OM20160112
Not a big boom after all.
Nice little article in the Grauniad, and I must admit I sympathise with the sentiment:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/11/europe-turn-tables-bullying-britain-david-cameron-eu
ExFishermanBob
01-12-16, 01:02 PM
Nice to see the English (vs British) dimension reflected.
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