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AVGWarhawk
03-12-25, 03:18 PM
Where did the "Efficiency" not sink in?

In my neck of the woods efficiency means nothing. It is all going away. By force.

Dargo
03-12-25, 03:30 PM
MAGA after they saw Trump selling them tesla:
https://i.ibb.co/4gTXKDJj/magatesla.jpg (https://ibb.co/2YtCWL5j)

August
03-12-25, 03:32 PM
I don't get it. Clinton eliminated 426,500 jobs and not a peep. Some how this was different according to the news. Clinton balanced the budget. Well I guess this time...Trump. :doh:


Todays Dems don't actually care about eliminating waste or graft. They're the main ones who have been lining their pockets with it for all these years. Sure the GoP has it's own sticky figured individuals but it's nothing close to the arrogance and scope of the vast criminal enterprise that is the modern Democratic party.

mapuc
03-12-25, 03:32 PM
The tariffs are targeting products that should be manufactured in the US. Trump wants manufacturing back in the USA. He is forcing major manufacturers to return the USA.

Now I have to ask-Did the American consumers buy the product from outside America because:

It was cheaper ?
and/or
It was a better product ?

Markus

Buddahaid
03-12-25, 03:36 PM
I don't get it. Clinton eliminated 426,500 jobs and not a peep. Some how this was different according to the news. Clinton balanced the budget. Well I guess this time...Trump. :doh:

I’m pretty certain Clinton worked his magic through the normal legislative process, not by unconstitutional executive orders and a possibly illegally created entity that’s working outside the legislative process.

And run by an immigrant who is literally taking your job!

That’s the rub.

AVGWarhawk
03-12-25, 04:08 PM
Now I have to ask-Did the American consumers buy the product from outside America because:

It was cheaper ?
and/or
It was a better product ?

Markus

Cheaper or all that was offered. Manufactured in USA is not something you find much any more. We find manufactured in America from parts sourced outside the USA.

AVGWarhawk
03-12-25, 04:12 PM
I’m pretty certain Clinton worked his magic through the normal legislative process, not by unconstitutional executive orders and a possibly illegally created entity that’s working outside the legislative process.

And run by an immigrant who is literally taking your job!

That’s the rub.

Are you sure? Look it up. A immigrant taking jobs? I thought immigrants diversified our nation. Now Elon is just a douche bag. People buying Tesla a few years ago were climate heroes. Now they are additional douche bags. Honestly, TDS is real.

Federal probationary workers losing a job. I have been through it twice. Pull up your panties and join the real working world.

Dargo
03-12-25, 04:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctCL527LiDY

Buddahaid
03-12-25, 06:35 PM
Are you sure? Look it up. A immigrant taking jobs? I thought immigrants diversified our nation. Now Elon is just a douche bag. People buying Tesla a few years ago were climate heroes. Now they are additional douche bags. Honestly, TDS is real.

Federal probationary workers losing a job. I have been through it twice. Pull up your panties and join the real working world.

Insults again? I retired last year after fifty years of employment. Tesla cars are now old tech and the “truck” is a joke so why isn’t this great patriotic Musk doing something about it? The douche bag is from South Africa and he’s taking jobs away from people.

August
03-12-25, 07:01 PM
Insults again? I retired last year after fifty years of employment. Tesla cars are now old tech and the “truck” is a joke so why isn’t this great patriotic Musk doing something about it? The douche bag is from South Africa and he’s taking jobs away from people.


That "douche bag" as you call him came to this country legally and has been a naturalized US citizen for almost a quarter century. In that time he's not taken the public assistance your party seems so willing to dole out to anyone who wetbacks it across the Rio Grande but has also created thousands of brand new jobs for other US citizens.


I think it's rich that you object to what you perceive as an insult but have no problem at all in insulting others in terms that are far more viciously personal.

Buddahaid
03-12-25, 07:05 PM
That "douche bag" as you call him came to this country legally and has been a naturalized US citizen for almost a quarter century. In that time he's not taken the public assistance your party seems so willing to dole out to anyone who wetbacks it across the Rio Grande but has also created thousands of brand new jobs for other US citizens.


I think it's rich that you object to what you perceive as an insult but have no problem at all in insulting others in terms that are far more viciously personal.

The insults I refer to are personal ones from other members and I simply used the term for Musk provided by the previous poster who must take the credit, and, I never said illegal immigrant, but immigrant just the same and responsible for taking 6000 jobs away from vets.

Musk is another idiot who thinks governments are no different than businesses. He is wrong.

AVGWarhawk
03-12-25, 07:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctCL527LiDY

MSNBC...sigh ....

August
03-12-25, 07:23 PM
The insults I refer to are personal ones from other members and I simply used the term for Musk provided by the previous poster who must take the credit, and, I never said illegal immigrant, but immigrant just the same and responsible for taking 6000 jobs away from vets.


I don't know or care what propagandist source you cite but the fact is Musk has provided over 125 THOUSAND US jobs at Tesla alone.

AVGWarhawk
03-12-25, 07:29 PM
The insults I refer to are personal ones from other members and I simply used the term for Musk provided by the previous poster who must take the credit, and, I never said illegal immigrant, but immigrant just the same and responsible for taking 6000 jobs away from vets.

Musk is another idiot who thinks governments are no different than businesses. He is wrong.

What insult my friend? You just crapped on a beloved immigrant. . Gosh, 6000 jobs from vets. People lose jobs every day. Screw the 14000 people working a pipeline Biden fired day one. Get a grip may man.

AVGWarhawk
03-12-25, 07:31 PM
I don't know or care what propagandist source you cite but the fact is Musk has provided over 125 THOUSAND US jobs at Tesla alone.

Just a tidbit of info people like to ignore. Musk gave 5.7 billion to charity last year. What a heel. Sheesh.

Buddahaid
03-12-25, 07:53 PM
What insult my friend? You just crapped on a beloved immigrant. . Gosh, 6000 jobs from vets. People lose jobs every day. Screw the 14000 people working a pipeline Biden fired day one. Get a grip may man.

“ Pull up your panties and join the real working world.”

That one.

AVGWarhawk
03-12-25, 08:11 PM
“ Pull up your panties and join the real working world.”

That one.

And I stand by it along with the other federal employees that lost their jobs. Again, been there twice. No job fairs started for me. No outreach of local government to find me a position. This is what is happening in MD. You may find it in the news.

14000 fired from a pipeline. "Learn how to code", Joe Biden. This is the help they received. Sheesh.

Buddahaid
03-12-25, 09:37 PM
And I stand by it along with the other federal employees that lost their jobs. Again, been there twice. No job fairs started for me. No outreach of local government to find me a position. This is what is happening in MD. You may find it in the news.

14000 fired from a pipeline. "Learn how to code", Joe Biden. This is the help they received. Sheesh.

I read that pull up panties statement as directed personally at me.

August
03-12-25, 11:02 PM
I read that pull up panties statement as directed personally at me.


That's because you're looking for an excuse to be offended. It's how all fights start. One guys says something, another guy finds a reason to get personally offended over it and it degenerates from there.


Besides as you have repeatedly posted over the years we all know that you eschew wearing underwear altogether. :yep:

Otto Harkaman
03-13-25, 01:37 AM
Well everyone better get their work boots on skirts or pants besides. I knew he would bring us to church and its always a trying path but faith provides.

Exocet25fr
03-13-25, 06:59 AM
EPA Launches Biggest Deregulatory Action in U.S. History !

Administrator Zeldin Announces 31 Historic Actions to Power the Great American Comeback....

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-launches-biggest-deregulatory-action-us-history

AVGWarhawk
03-13-25, 09:01 AM
I read that pull up panties statement as directed personally at me.

It was not. You are retired. It is directed at the federal employees who are in utter disbelief they got fired. Are they some kind of protected class? This happens in the working world daily. It is called. "how the other half live."

Buddahaid
03-13-25, 11:36 AM
That's because you're looking for an excuse to be offended. It's how all fights start. One guys says something, another guy finds a reason to get personally offended over it and it degenerates from there.


Besides as you have repeatedly posted over the years we all know that you eschew wearing underwear altogether. :yep:

My, what helpful statement from someone who is constantly offended anyone doesn’t lick Trump’s feet.

Buddahaid
03-13-25, 02:20 PM
Telling it like it is.
https://youtu.be/rY2T4ihrg1I?si=KPrlWai-za8DSapV

mapuc
03-13-25, 04:34 PM
Copied from ABC's facebook page

"Pres. Trump is expected to invoke the Alien Enemies Act — a wartime law that allows the president to detain or deport "natives" and citizens of an enemy nation — in order to carry out mass deportations, according to two officials familiar with the matter.
The Department of Defense is not expected to have a role in the invoking of the authority, which could be used to deport some migrants without a hearing.
Trump had previously said on the campaign trail that he planned to invoke the act, which hasn't been used since World War II, when it was used to detain Japanese Americans."

Markus

Otto Harkaman
03-13-25, 04:35 PM
https://youtu.be/UZ-MjnhsgjY?si=iY5wSaW2i4YePQEM

mapuc
03-13-25, 04:39 PM
^ Here they have said it was Kamela Harris who was running the show.

Markus

Otto Harkaman
03-13-25, 04:52 PM
^ Here they have said it was Kamela Harris who was running the show.

Markus
^ Susan Rice
https://youtu.be/xJlLZHQEkdg?si=Z9-UgJ3c_8cssaKI
5 yr old video

August
03-13-25, 10:41 PM
My, what helpful statement from someone who is constantly offended anyone doesn’t lick Trump’s feet.


Now i've never asked you to lick anyones feet Budda, leastwise Trumps. You seem very bitter. Don't you think you may be overreacting just a bit?

Gorpet
03-14-25, 12:01 AM
No fair trials for anyone suspected of fraud, gotcha. Or how else am i supposed to interpret this? You think fraudsters consult with a lawyer (maybe with a disbarred one I guess?) how to best do it or something? Or what would be the reason to go after the lawyer who represents someone? You know it's innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

I know, i'm 5 days late. Well let's just say we hold them and see who comes to defend them. And within the visions of Democracy, Yes we can and will look at not only the accused but the one who comes to defend them. And they will both get a fair trial by the people.

And if the suspect and his lawyer are found innocent, they will not be shot.

Gorpet
03-14-25, 01:01 AM
Telling it like it is.
https://youtu.be/rY2T4ihrg1I?si=KPrlWai-za8DSapV

Now, Elon is the enemy, How many millions is this politician in the video worth?
Come on Buddahaid ? America is tired of your Spider society and the negative vibes....Yes we are not stupid anymore. For those of us who were 20 looking for hope and change in 2009 , have found out 15 years later at 35 we have been left on the streets of nowhere. Dead broke and no fulfilled promises . By grandmas and grandpas who just have to dictate.

Otto Harkaman
03-14-25, 01:30 AM
privatized Social Security, worrisome

Here's a link to a CNBC article from July 2020 that details Trump’s stance on Social Security and clarifies that he would not move to privatize the program:
Trump says he won’t privatize Social Security (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/17/trump-says-he-wont-privatize-social-security.html)
This article outlines how Trump consistently maintained that he would preserve Social Security as is, despite some advisors having floated ideas about private accounts to supplement benefits.

I wasn’t able to locate any recent, reputable news articles or official statements that detail Elon Musk’s position on Social Security privatization. Unlike President Trump, whose views on Social Security have been widely reported, Musk has not prominently addressed this topic in major news outlets.
I had asked the AI questions if anyone has links about Musk's position please post.

Gorpet
03-14-25, 01:55 AM
privatized Social Security, worrisome

I had asked the AI questions if anyone has links about Musk's position please post.

Why do you have to ask AI. Your just another, coming in at a different angle.Calm down. We had potato Joe for 3.5 years. And i can't afford a egg or to buy a chicken to lay a egg. How many eggs do you have in your refrigerator?

And i f we can find that Usaid money. Every single American can not only have a backyard full of chickens, But any other animals they can raise. Hell they could have at least . Be given 5 acres per citizen. Free.

What the hell, 2 years ago you people wanted to go green, Now you want to overrun a Tesla Dealership burn cars and destroy any charging stations. Is there anyone or group out there that can tell me why this is necessary ?

Gorpet
03-14-25, 02:49 AM
It was not. You are retired. It is directed at the federal employees who are in utter disbelief they got fired. Are they some kind of protected class? This happens in the working world daily. It is called. "how the other half live."

Oh, damn yes you have brought back memories, Of my youth and i didn't work for the Government. But i had a wife and a son, And i will just say this, I was never out of work for more than 2 weeks. If i didn't want to be.

The difference from 1968 when i was 10, and my parents rubbing quarters to make nickel's so i and my 2 sisters could have a lunch at school. Is a forever memory.

AVGWarhawk
03-14-25, 07:49 AM
Oh, damn yes you have brought back memories, Of my youth and i didn't work for the Government. But i had a wife and a son, And i will just say this, I was never out of work for more than 2 weeks. If i didn't want to be.

The difference from 1968 when i was 10, and my parents rubbing quarters to make nickel's so i and my 2 sisters could have a lunch at school. Is a forever memory.

Twice for me. Wife, kids and a mortgage. No one gave a crap. My new job was find a new job. Landed one in 8 weeks. It was to the point I would take anything. Three months on the new job, job eliminated. Back to the drawing board. Sigh..... Where is my job fair??? Where was my assistance from local government? Applied for unemployment. Never received it.

Buddahaid
03-14-25, 09:46 AM
Now, Elon is the enemy, How many millions is this politician in the video worth?
Come on Buddahaid ? America is tired of your Spider society and the negative vibes....Yes we are not stupid anymore. For those of us who were 20 looking for hope and change in 2009 , have found out 15 years later at 35 we have been left on the streets of nowhere. Dead broke and no fulfilled promises . By grandmas and grandpas who just have to dictate.

Elon is very likely working outside the law with the new lawless and disorder party.

Working outside the laws and Constitution is the entire problem with this administration and I don't see how someone can call themselves patriotic for doing so without throwing up.

And in view of that, here's a new court order for Elon and DOGE.

"It is further ORDERED that Defendants Elon Musk, U.S. DOGE Service, and U.S. DOGE
Temporary Organization shall produce the requested documents and respond to the interrogatories
and requests for admissions in Plaintiffs’ Discovery Requests, as amended by the court, within 21 days of this Order.

Defendants’ request for a stay of any order granting expedited discovery is
DENIED.

It is further ORDERED that Plaintiffs’ request to notice two depositions is DENIED
without prejudice.

It is further ORDERED that Plaintiffs’ forthcoming motion for a preliminary injunction
shall be CONSOLIDATED with a hearing on the merits under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure
65(a)(2).

Date: March 12, 2025
Tanya S. Chutkan
TANYA S. CHUTKAN
United States District Judge"

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277463/gov.uscourts.dcd.277463.61.0_1.pdf

AVGWarhawk
03-14-25, 09:49 AM
Elon is very likely working outside the law with the new lawless and disorder party.

Working outside the laws and Constitution is the entire problem with this administration and I don't see how someone can call themselves patriotic for doing so without throwing up.

As if the dems did not discard the Constitution when it suited. No. Never!!

Buddahaid
03-14-25, 10:04 AM
As if the dems did not discard the Constitution when it suited. No. Never!!

Citation please that shows how it was done outside of the legal process.

AVGWarhawk
03-14-25, 10:13 AM
Citation please that shows how it was done outside of the legal process.

Do tell the process. If it was not legal, where is SCOTUS?

We can start here:

https://cha.house.gov/_cache/files/2/8/287cd803-0c7c-4f76-a5f6-a3ec278936a9/0F2AB113B3CAEE23B707583BDC3F8CAF.an-unprecedented-and-unconstitutional-power-grab-how-democrats-are-abusing-the-constitution-to-nationalize-elections-hjc-cha-aug-24-2021-.pdf

VipertheSniper
03-14-25, 10:23 AM
I know, i'm 5 days late. Well let's just say we hold them and see who comes to defend them. And within the visions of Democracy, Yes we can and will look at not only the accused but the one who comes to defend them. And they will both get a fair trial by the people.

And if the suspect and his lawyer are found innocent, they will not be shot.

So you're willing to piss away non-arbitrary justice and the presumption of innocence for a few bucks essentially. Because I can guarantee you, if you got your wish, it won't stop with suspects of fraud.
Why even have trial? According to you they're all guilty anyway and have to prove their innocence, so why not shoot them on the spot? To give a veneer of justice?

You're essentially talking about mob-justice or lynching here.

Buddahaid
03-14-25, 10:42 AM
Do tell the process. If it was not legal, where is SCOTUS?

We can start here:

https://cha.house.gov/_cache/files/2/8/287cd803-0c7c-4f76-a5f6-a3ec278936a9/0F2AB113B3CAEE23B707583BDC3F8CAF.an-unprecedented-and-unconstitutional-power-grab-how-democrats-are-abusing-the-constitution-to-nationalize-elections-hjc-cha-aug-24-2021-.pdf

Fine, that's a report and an opinion. Did the legislation pass, and if so, why is it then unconstitutional?

SCOTUS will get involved with most of the current legal proceedings and it will boil down to where Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett stand.

AVGWarhawk
03-14-25, 12:23 PM
Fine, that's a report and an opinion.



Much like yours. A report or opinion. :hmmm:

Buddahaid
03-14-25, 01:19 PM
Sure, I have an opinion but I’ve also backed it up with Article 3 binding court filings.

Skybird
03-14-25, 09:24 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/14/politics/rubio-south-africa-ambassador-no-longer-welcome-us/index.html



“What Donald Trump is launching is an assault on incumbency, those who are in power, by mobilizing a supremacism against the incumbency at home and … abroad as well,” said Rasool, who was on his second tour as ambassador to the US. He presented his credentials in mid-January to then-President Joe Biden and previously served in Washington, DC, under the Obama administration.
He said that the Make America Great Again movement was a response “not simply to a supremacist instinct,” but to shifts in US demographics “in which the voting electorate in the USA is projected to become 48% white and that the possibility of a majority of minorities is looming on the horizon.”


And that hits the bull's eye. I first mentioned that outlook already during the Bush jr years, and that it would trigger a reaction from the Republicans that most likely would lead to authoritarianism, even with the possibility of establishing a dictatorship with strong support of the radical evangelical "Christians".

Reece
03-14-25, 11:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT1SevRaWfk

Ostfriese
03-15-25, 12:32 AM
Twice for me. Wife, kids and a mortgage. No one gave a crap. My new job was find a new job. Landed one in 8 weeks. It was to the point I would take anything. Three months on the new job, job eliminated. Back to the drawing board. Sigh..... Where is my job fair??? Where was my assistance from local government? Applied for unemployment. Never received it.


So, because you suffered everybody else has to suffer as well, did I get that right? Are you are Christian?

August
03-15-25, 01:13 AM
So, because you suffered everybody else has to suffer as well, did I get that right? Are you are Christian?


Are you saying that government employees deserve a better deal than what is available to the general public whose taxes pay their salary?

Ostfriese
03-15-25, 01:16 AM
Are you saying that government employees deserve a better deal than what is available to the general public whose taxes pay their salary?


No, that's not what I'm saying, but I don't think you'll be able/willing to understand what I want to say, so I won't waste my precious time.

Oh, and you "pay up, Europe" guys will also experience a surprise. Yes, Europe is doing so now, but any money that will be allocated now has to be spent in Europe. So far the European nations spent 63% of their procurement money on American weapons. That's btw. the reason why your corporate overlords hammered the idea of "pay up" into your conservative brains.

However, exactly 0% of the money allocated now and in the near future will be spent in the US or on US companies. Apart from that European countries have also begun to opt out of contracts for American weapons, most notably the F-35. The reasoning behind that: nations don't think America is reliable enough any more to deliver spare parts, software updates and so on.

In short: this will be costly for the US weapons industry. The losses are estimated to be as low as $1 trillion over the next ten years and as high as $6 trillion.
Well done :D

We must be living in the stupidest time line possible. The Trump government has asked European companies to export more eggs to the USA. Which country did they ask first? Denmark (Source, in Danish: https://agriwatch.dk/Nyheder/Landbrug/article17985104.ece)


"Hey, we will invade a part of your country if you don't hand it over immediately. Oh, um, could we borrows some eggs, please?" :haha::har:

u crank
03-15-25, 05:41 AM
No, that's not what I'm saying, but I don't think you'll be able/willing to understand what I want to say, so I won't waste my precious time.

If you don't want anyone to respond to your posts, don't make any.

Reece
03-15-25, 06:30 AM
:har::har: You guys slay me!! :up:

Skybird
03-15-25, 07:04 AM
You want to reduce vulnerability to corruption, and you want that the more the more critical and influential a given job or office is.


There are two forms of corruption employees can be prone to: greed, and need.



The first is if you get enough but think its never enough, you always want more.


The second is if you want to be able to live a reasonable and affordable life, pay for your kids' education, and put some money aside for when you grow old, and you want not needing to worry whether all the lose ends and open bills you can service by the end of the month.


Governments themselves have an own interest as well. They want a loyal gang of accomplices that help to enforce "government" onto the ordinary people, and plunder them and live off them. It gets even more dubious if government, or state, translates into "political parties" and "individual politicians' career interest". Thats the case in practically every nation in the West, and most nations on the globe. Honestyl said: thinking of it I cannot come up with one exception from this rule.



How to solve all this dilemma? Cut back the state as much as possible. I see no other solution that has a chance to work over the longer run.



Of course, state and government want exactly the opposite: as much of themselves as possible, and then ever more. And so they continue to feed their gang of accomplices, and bribe those they formally need to "elect" them with what before they have stolen from them, and they even steal the future of the kids and young.

AVGWarhawk
03-15-25, 07:08 AM
So, because you suffered everybody else has to suffer as well, did I get that right? Are you are Christian?

Not a matter of suffering. It's a matter of the outrage that this could happen. People get laid off or fired everyday. Could multiple people at a single company or just an individual. It's a reality all in the working world face yet for some reason a federal employee loses a job all hell breaks lose over the unfairness of it all. They are required to come back to the office and it's a travesty.

Clinton fired 400,000 federal employees. Biden fired federal employees who did not vaccinate. Democratic outrage with any of these occurrences?

Christian has nothing to with my stance on government downsizing. I'm sorry they lost a job. It happens. This is life. Save the outrage. The news cycle needs to move on about it.

Commander Wallace
03-15-25, 07:43 AM
If you don't want anyone to respond to your posts, don't make any.

Not a matter of suffering. It's a matter of the outrage that this could happen. People get laid off or fired everyday. Could multiple people at a single company or just an individual. It's a reality all in the working world face yet for some reason a federal employee loses a job all hell breaks lose over the unfairness of it all.

Clinton fired 400,000 federal employees. Biden fired federal employees who did not vaccinate. Outrage with any of these occurrences?

Christian has nothing to with my stance on government downsizing. I'm sorry they lost a job. It happens. This is life. Save the outrage. The news cycle needs to move on about it.


:agree:

Turnover happens more and more in the workplace. In States that have a " Right to work " status, it may be worse. Originally envisioned as a means to insure an employee didn't have to join Unions, it has had other consequences. People in those States don't have a lot in the ways of protection from abuse. Foreign entitles in the U.S have exploited those provisions. Employees can be fired for any reason with little in the way of recourse. DEI initiatives have made that worse.

@ Ostfriese, I have no Idea why you think you have a better understanding of things in the U.S than the Citizens of this Country. You really don't have a " dog in the fight " unless you consider that your Country will have to divert more of It's GDP and GNP to it's own defense. It's about time. To be fair, these conversations should have taken place long ago.

As a side note, the U.S is developing and building the F-15 Eagle EX program. These aircraft are considered Generation 4.5 Aircraft. While the F-15 Eagle EX does not have stealth characteristics, It does have Improvements in Sensor Suites, Engines and weapon deployment including carrying up to 12 AMRAAMs. In capable hands, the newest F-15 Eagle EX is very deadly in areas where Stealth isn't a requirement or necessity. Trained people will be needed to build these and other weapons and Aircraft.



https://www.boeing.com/defense/f-15ex#performance


https://www.19fortyfive.com/2024/11/why-the-u-s-air-force-wants-the-f-15ex-eagle-ii-fighter/

Dargo
03-15-25, 08:11 AM
You want to reduce vulnerability to corruption, and you want that the more the more critical and influential a given job or office is.


There are two forms of corruption employees can be prone to: greed, and need.



The first is if you get enough but think its never enough, you always want more.


The second is if you want to be able to live a reasonable and affordable life, pay for your kids' education, and put some money aside for when you grow old, and you want not needing to worry whether all the lose ends and open bills you can service by the end of the month.


Governments themselves have an own interest as well. They want a loyal gang of accomplices that help to enforce "government" onto the ordinary people, and plunder them and live off them. It gets even more dubious if government, or state, translates into "political parties" and "individual politicians' career interest". Thats the case in practically every nation in the West, and most nations on the globe. Honestyl said: thinking of it I cannot come up with one exception from this rule.



How to solve all this dilemma? Cut back the state as much as possible. I see no other solution that has a chance to work over the longer run.



Of course, state and government want exactly the opposite: as much of themselves as possible, and then ever more. And so they continue to feed their gang of accomplices, and bribe those they formally need to "elect" them with what before they have stolen from them, and they even steal the future of the kids and young.In the two separate cases on the dismissal of thousands of civil servants in their probationary period, two judges on Thursday fielded harsh judgments. One called the dismissals a ‘sham’, the other argued that how they were carried out ‘bordered on the ridiculous’. There are more powers than state and government for good reason. The ‘performance’ of the officials was cited as the reason for the dismissals. But in the opinion of both judges, it was not actually to do so. The government is said to have used it as a ‘trick’ to circumvent legislation on structural downsizing of the government's actual purpose.

Judge William Alsup called it ‘sad’ that ‘our government fires good civil servants, supposedly because of their performance, when they know full well that is not true’. In the other case, Judge James Bredar said that many of the dismissal letters civil servants received ‘did not even superficially’ indicate anything about their performance.

AVGWarhawk
03-15-25, 08:26 AM
In the two separate cases on the dismissal of thousands of civil servants in their probationary period, two judges on Thursday fielded harsh judgments. One called the dismissals a ‘sham’, the other argued that how they were carried out ‘bordered on the ridiculous’. There are more powers than state and government for good reason. The ‘performance’ of the officials was cited as the reason for the dismissals. But in the opinion of both judges, it was not actually to do so. The government is said to have used it as a ‘trick’ to circumvent legislation on structural downsizing of the government's actual purpose.

Judge William Alsup called it ‘sad’ that ‘our government fires good civil servants, supposedly because of their performance, when they know full well that is not true’. In the other case, Judge James Bredar said that many of the dismissal letters civil servants received ‘did not even superficially’ indicate anything about their performance.

Maybe the letters should have read, 'We don't need you anymore. ". That's how mine and many others read when handed the pink slip.

I work with one federal employee who's email states the following, "I'm tele-working from home. It's best to reach me by email." Bud, tele is short for telephone. Your first line of communication is just that. The telephone. Email means you are not answering your phone because you are busy doing anything but work. You can answer your email when you feel like it. This is the performance issue. He is one of many. Unsupervised. Free for all. I know this because we had a sales person doing anything but sales as he sat 4 hours away unsupervised. He was finally terminated after years of screwing the company.

MaDef
03-15-25, 02:55 PM
I read that pull up panties statement as directed personally at me.Only if you wear panties. :D

Twice for me. Wife, kids and a mortgage. No one gave a crap. My new job was find a new job. Landed one in 8 weeks. It was to the point I would take anything. Three months on the new job, job eliminated. Back to the drawing board. Sigh..... Where is my job fair??? Where was my assistance from local government? Applied for unemployment. Never received it. when we were first married my wife and I worked for the same company, both of us were laid off the same day without advanced notice. it happens. It's not the end of the world either.

You want to reduce vulnerability to corruption, and you want that the more the more critical and influential a given job or office is.


There are two forms of corruption employees can be prone to: greed, and need.



The first is if you get enough but think its never enough, you always want more.


The second is if you want to be able to live a reasonable and affordable life, pay for your kids' education, and put some money aside for when you grow old, and you want not needing to worry whether all the lose ends and open bills you can service by the end of the month.


Governments themselves have an own interest as well. They want a loyal gang of accomplices that help to enforce "government" onto the ordinary people, and plunder them and live off them. It gets even more dubious if government, or state, translates into "political parties" and "individual politicians' career interest". Thats the case in practically every nation in the West, and most nations on the globe. Honestyl said: thinking of it I cannot come up with one exception from this rule.



How to solve all this dilemma? Cut back the state as much as possible. I see no other solution that has a chance to work over the longer run.



Of course, state and government want exactly the opposite: as much of themselves as possible, and then ever more. And so they continue to feed their gang of accomplices, and bribe those they formally need to "elect" them with what before they have stolen from them, and they even steal the future of the kids and young.

FYI: here in America, the State is synonymous with the Government :rolleyes:

Buddahaid
03-15-25, 06:14 PM
So, Trump has enacted war powers so he can deport anyone no matter their legal status or any proof of any allegation. We are now in brown shirt territory, and I hope you are all proud.

Otto Harkaman
03-15-25, 07:44 PM
fifth columnists

https://youtu.be/AdT_XG-5KIA?si=V7Rq05WMg3F7UmyF

MaDef
03-15-25, 11:03 PM
So, Trump has enacted war powers so he can deport anyone no matter their legal status or any proof of any allegation. We are now in brown shirt territory, and I hope you are all proud.

You really, really need to STOP listening to the talking heads on T.V. :yeah:

Buddahaid
03-15-25, 11:45 PM
Good thing I never do that.

August
03-16-25, 01:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIGJb25OPEE

Reece
03-16-25, 01:33 AM
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ak4iLkWGPaM/UJf_Ds35mDI/AAAAAAAAAYM/hbhqonQpRBw/s1600/Oddball.jpg
What's with those negative waves??

Catfish
03-16-25, 04:19 AM
^ This lol

Victor D. Hanson is right. On the other hand no word about Trump's plans. I mean he describes it as if he was lecturing Europe but it is the US that does a 180 degree turn and is suddenly best friends with Russia and China.

u crank
03-16-25, 05:13 AM
^ This lol

Victor D. Hanson is right. On the other hand no word about Trump's plans. I mean he describes it as if he was lecturing Europe but it is the US that does a 180 degree turn and is suddenly best friends with Russia and China.

Best friends? Really?

Reece
03-16-25, 05:47 AM
Yes I find that hard to believe, especially since Russia and China are now friends with Iran! :doh:
Trump has been threatening both China and Iran! Who knows!! The world is gone nuts!! :k_confused:

u crank
03-16-25, 06:07 AM
Yes I find that hard to believe, especially since Russia and China are now friends with Iran! :doh:
Trump has been threatening both China and Iran! Who knows!! The world is gone nuts!! :k_confused:

Russia and China have opposing military, economic and ideological goals with the United States. They are not friends. And just because Trump is president doesn't change that.

VipertheSniper
03-16-25, 06:20 AM
You really, really need to STOP listening to the talking heads on T.V. :yeah:

maybe you should START, because the DOJ is arguing, what you dismiss so easily, exactly that in court.

Edit: actually it's probably even worse, the DOJ is arguing that the president can have anyone deported regardless of the AEA.

Catfish
03-16-25, 06:24 AM
Kellogg has just been drawn back after pressure fom Moscow. Putin uses Trump to apply pressure on Ukraine, and after all that has been done and seen in the last weeks America under Trump is a friend of Russia. Maybe not China, but Trump sure has a faible for autocrats, from Putin to Orban to Meloni.

MaDef
03-16-25, 10:12 AM
maybe you should START, because the DOJ is arguing, what you dismiss so easily, exactly that in court.

Edit: actually it's probably even worse, the DOJ is arguing that the president can have anyone deported regardless of the AEA.
FYI the AEA is a think tank, they do not set policy, Congress sets the laws, The President sets the policy to enforce those laws.

Illegal migrants are not legal residents or citizens and when found can be repatriated to their country of origin. migrants or visitors that hold Visas are here for a specified time and/or purpose, They can be deported for breaking the conditions or restrictions on their Visa. Green card holders are "permanent" resident aliens, they too can be deported for breaking the conditions/restrictions under that program. Green card holders are allowed to apply for citizenship,

You need to familiarize yourself with title 8 chap. 12 of the U.S.C

As far as I can ascertain, Trump and the DOJ are just enforcing the laws already on the books. I understand it can seem scary for some of you, but take a valium and relax, if you are in the U.S. legally and following the rules/conditions of your Visa or Green Card you have nothing to worry about, If you are here illegally, you might think about self deportation. :03:

VipertheSniper
03-16-25, 10:32 AM
FYI the AEA is a think tank, they do not set policy, Congress sets the laws, The President sets the policy to enforce those laws.

Illegal migrants are not legal residents or citizens and when found can be repatriated to their country of origin. migrants or visitors that hold Visas are here for a specified time and/or purpose, They can be deported for breaking the conditions or restrictions on their Visa. Green card holders are "permanent" resident aliens, they too can be deported for breaking the conditions/restrictions under that program. Green card holders are allowed to apply for citizenship,

You need to familiarize yourself with title 8 chap. 12 of the U.S.C

As far as I can ascertain, Trump and the DOJ are just enforcing the laws already on the books. I understand it can seem scary for some of you, but take a valium and relax, if you are in the U.S. legally and following the rules/conditions of your Visa or Green Card you have nothing to worry about, If you are here illegally, you might think about self deportation. :03:

The Aliens Enemy Act of 1798 is a think tank?

Anyway, the DOJ is arguing against a temporary restraining order blocking deportations that the president doesn't need any authority under the AEA to have people deported without process.

And as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to matter if greencard holders or people in the US on a visa are following the rules. There are people right now, locked up, waiting to get deported, that have followed the rules.

Otto Harkaman
03-16-25, 10:37 AM
Yep deport them! good riddance Alien Enemies!

Buddahaid
03-16-25, 10:42 AM
Nice words but the rub is in who decides there are violations and what proof there is. This will be used as shamefully as the internment of Japanese American's during WW2. Trump and his cronies words have been proven many times to be false and that's why DOGE goes way out of its way to prevent any fact checking and has a FOIA lawsuit against it by the State of New Mexico.

First Amendment freedoms are not violations.

Catfish
03-16-25, 10:44 AM
Yep deport them! good riddance Alien Enemies!
Then you as a descendant of european invaders in North America should go first :D

Otto Harkaman
03-16-25, 10:59 AM
^I am sure the Caliphate of Mahmoud Khalil will come to your aid when threatened by Russia :up:

MaDef
03-16-25, 11:16 AM
The Aliens Enemy Act of 1798 is a think tank?

Anyway, the DOJ is arguing against a temporary restraining order blocking deportations that the president doesn't need any authority under the AEA to have people deported without process.

And as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to matter if greencard holders or people in the US on a visa are following the rules. There are people right now, locked up, waiting to get deported, that have followed the rules.

You need to be clearer then. EAE is also "American Economic Association" which is a think tank that does research on the impacts of immigration for lobby groups in an attempt to influence legislation.

Well let's see Trump has designated different drug cartels and international criminal gangs as terrorist organizations, stands to reason that He use that act to deport those people who are members of those organizations does it not?

You make the claim, now provide specific examples

MaDef
03-16-25, 11:34 AM
Nice words but the rub is in who decides there are violations and what proof there is. This will be used as shamefully as the internment of Japanese American's during WW2. Trump and his cronies words have been proven many times to be false and that's why DOGE goes way out of its way to prevent any fact checking and has a FOIA lawsuit against it by the State of New Mexico.

First Amendment freedoms are not violations.

Here's is a fact you need to wrap your head around. The Constitution is for U.S. Citizens, If you are not a Citizen then while you can enjoy the freedoms offered, your "Rights" are limited UNTIL you become a citizen. and those limits are laid out in Title 8 chapt. 12 of the U.S.C

Buddahaid
03-16-25, 11:43 AM
Green card holders have first Amendment protections as well as there is nothing in the Constitution defining "the people" as only citizens. Wrap your head around that.

EDIT: All foreigners on US soil are subject to US laws and those laws work both ways.

VipertheSniper
03-16-25, 11:58 AM
You need to be clearer then. EAE is also "American Economic Association" which is a think tank that does research on the impacts of immigration for lobby groups in an attempt to influence legislation.

Well let's see Trump has designated different drug cartels and international criminal gangs as terrorist organizations, stands to reason that He use that act to deport those people who are members of those organizations does it not?

You make the claim, now provide specific examples

A judge blocked the deportations, saying the AEA doesn't apply, the deportations btw, happened anyway.
I have no sympathies for criminals, so if they are gang members and have no legal status in the US, deport them.
That is not the problem here, the problem is the part where, if the DOJ is successful in arguing their case, which I don't think they will, the president can order deportations basically against anybody he deems a risk to national security, without due process, today it is drug dealers and arguably by-catch but there's no way to know, since there was no due process, tomorrow someone who slighted him or someone who has his ear.

https://www.lawdork.com/p/alien-enemies-act-venezuela-tro

Regarding people who seem to have followed the rules:

https://eu.providencejournal.com/story/news/local/2025/03/15/rhode-island-doctor-rasha-alawieh-deported-despite-federal-court-order/82441360007/
https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2025-03-14/green-card-holder-from-new-hampshire-interrogated-at-logan-airport-detained

Catfish
03-16-25, 12:00 PM
^I am sure the Caliphate of Mahmoud Khalil [...]

Not much up with free speech in the US :03:
https://blog.simplejustice.us/2025/03/11/free-mahmoud-kahlil/

Catfish
03-16-25, 12:02 PM
Green card holders have first Amendment protections as well as there is nothing in the Constitution defining "the people" as only citizens. Wrap your head around that.

EDIT: All foreigners on US soil are subject to US laws and those laws work both ways.
umm yes, in theory, but a lot here seem to see this differently. I take it relations to the US have seldom be worse
https://www.newsweek.com/fabian-schmidt-green-card-holder-naked-violently-interrogated-ice-mother-2045361

MaDef
03-16-25, 01:10 PM
Green card holders have first Amendment protections as well as there is nothing in the Constitution defining "the people" as only citizens. Wrap your head around that.

EDIT: All foreigners on US soil are subject to US laws and those laws work both ways.
I again refer you to title 8 of the U.S.C there are limits put on non citizens.


By that logic, we may as well have open borders and allow non citizens to vote in our elections. Why don't you join the rest of us in the real world, instead of that liberal utopia fantasy you seem to be trapped in?

Otto Harkaman
03-16-25, 01:17 PM
https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2025/03/1920/1080/cartoon031625.jpg

Buddahaid
03-16-25, 01:55 PM
I again refer you to title 8 of the U.S.C there are limits put on non citizens.


By that logic, we may as well have open borders and allow non citizens to vote in our elections. Why don't you join the rest of us in the real world, instead of that liberal utopia fantasy you seem to be trapped in?

Why don't you acknowledge the freedoms guaranteed by our system are just decoration for MAGA to hide behind while they act in a lawless and unconstitutional manner pining for a police state.

Catfish
03-16-25, 02:04 PM
After the first Trump weeks just of all Bolton seems to be the most reasonable man. As someone wrote in the comments "Hell must have frozen over" :yep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O99JIvjq9t0

VipertheSniper
03-16-25, 02:39 PM
Why don't you acknowledge the freedoms guaranteed by our system are just decoration for MAGA to hide behind while they act in a lawless and unconstitutional manner pining for a police state.
For how much slippery slope arguments are trotted out when it's coming to proposing gun control, and here it's crickets, when the administration is wiping their asses with the Constitution on a daily basis, you'd think the Constitution is just the 2nd Amendment for some people.

Also what an absolutely BS cartoon posted by Otto. Just because people don't like Musk and boycott Tesla doesn't mean f*ck the climate, it means f*ck Musk. There are other EVs out there.

Otto Harkaman
03-16-25, 02:47 PM
What is the point of any climate control advocacy when you are burning toxic EV batteries and sponsoring forever war :-?

Catfish
03-16-25, 04:04 PM
How deep wants your president to creep into Putin's a$$?

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/16/trump-cuts-off-funding-for-pro-democracy-media-outlets-voa-and-rferl

Skybird
03-16-25, 04:20 PM
^ A question of stretchability... :D
:haha:

VipertheSniper
03-16-25, 04:52 PM
What is the point of any climate control advocacy when you are burning toxic EV batteries and sponsoring forever war :-?

You think all the people who don't like Elons fascist views care about climate control or don't want the Russia Ukraine (I'm guessing you're getting this from the blue hair yellow jacket) war to end (regardless of how)?

Even so, it might be hypocritical, yes, not that anyone on Team R ever seems to be bothered by it when it's their side being hypocritical.

I'm trying to think up a cartoon in the same style pointing out hypocrisy in MAGA, but in that case the one on the right would still praise Trump even though everything has turned to sh*t.

MaDef
03-16-25, 05:45 PM
Why don't you acknowledge the freedoms guaranteed by our system are just decoration for MAGA to hide behind while they act in a lawless and unconstitutional manner pining for a police state.

You still haven't read title 08 U.S.C have you?

Gorpet
03-16-25, 09:13 PM
Twice for me. Wife, kids and a mortgage. No one gave a crap. My new job was find a new job. Landed one in 8 weeks. It was to the point I would take anything. Three months on the new job, job eliminated. Back to the drawing board. Sigh..... Where is my job fair??? Where was my assistance from local government? Applied for unemployment. Never received it.

Just think, If you could have gotten that College loan, For free :up:

Elon is very likely working outside the law with the new lawless and disorder party.

Working outside the laws and Constitution is the entire problem with this administration and I don't see how someone can call themselves patriotic for doing so without throwing up.

And in view of that, here's a new court order for Elon and DOGE.

"It is further ORDERED that Defendants Elon Musk, U.S. DOGE Service, and U.S. DOGE
Temporary Organization shall produce the requested documents and respond to the interrogatories
and requests for admissions in Plaintiffs’ Discovery Requests, as amended by the court, within 21 days of this Order.

Defendants’ request for a stay of any order granting expedited discovery is
DENIED.

It is further ORDERED that Plaintiffs’ request to notice two depositions is DENIED
without prejudice.

It is further ORDERED that Plaintiffs’ forthcoming motion for a preliminary injunction
shall be CONSOLIDATED with a hearing on the merits under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure
65(a)(2).

Date: March 12, 2025
Tanya S. Chutkan
TANYA S. CHUTKAN
United States District Judge"

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.277463/gov.uscourts.dcd.277463.61.0_1.pdf

The Force is Strong with you,TDS ..This entire Government has been working outside of the law. And ****en on the Constitution for years.The only people who Bitch are those who have something to lose. Now if your living down on my street.Ya,know where the neon lights flash,That used to be good neighborhoods and now there ****.Yea we like Donald trump down here.Yes the people you support have not brought in my last 20 years of life. Anything that has increased prosperity or wealth or a feeling of safety. So i hope Donald, Dismantles you and your kind.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/14/politics/rubio-south-africa-ambassador-no-longer-welcome-us/index.html





And that hits the bull's eye. I first mentioned that outlook already during the Bush jr years, and that it would trigger a reaction from the Republicans that most likely would lead to authoritarianism, even with the possibility of establishing a dictatorship with strong support of the radical evangelical "Christians".

I think, Germans are already again under authoritarianism, And once again, they have no religion or moral fiber they are allowed to stand on.So Skybird your people and country will always be like the wheat in the field. Waving in the wind to be used. By your wealthy Politicians who will bend the knee and insure there will be no real Germans left by 2040. And that's a shame. culture genocide by yourselves.
Here in The United States the birthplace of modern Democracy, The last 30 years in this country is ripping the caucasian man to shreds and hey, The ideology of Democracy comes in many different versions. But Marxism and Socialism comes out the end of a gun barrel. And so does Modern Democracy.

Why don't you acknowledge the freedoms guaranteed by our system are just decoration for MAGA to hide behind while they act in a lawless and unconstitutional manner pining for a police state.

Here we go on the road again, Another police state, although we have been living in a Police State for the last 4 years. BY, Autopen, And the best decisions Democrats have made in the last 20 yrs, yes i am now 20 yrs older and this country and my state in life overall, has gotten worse and it damn sure wasn't Maga. It was incompetent Politicians who look good and talk good, But couldn't build a Simcity that would be viable if you gave them 30 days by themselves. There should be a required IQ test for all Politicians who want to become a person who shows up and says i want to work for the people, and i'm going to devote my life for the People. And that test should be done every 8 yrs. Don't you agree ? Let's start getting the local ones who can't do the latest Simcity out of office.

How deep wants your president to creep into Putin's a$$?

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/16/trump-cuts-off-funding-for-pro-democracy-media-outlets-voa-and-rferl

Well we, could in the future know how far Obama, and his Vice President Joe Biden creeped into Vladimir Zelensky"s a$$ To start a war with Russia, Along with the EU and NATO.The noses of the Europeans creep far into the a$$ of the American Socialist and that is a fact. :up:

You think all the people who don't like Elons fascist views care about climate control or don't want the Russia Ukraine (I'm guessing you're getting this from the blue hair yellow jacket) war to end (regardless of how)?

Even so, it might be hypocritical, yes, not that anyone on Team R ever seems to be bothered by it when it's their side being hypocritical.

I'm trying to think up a cartoon in the same style pointing out hypocrisy in MAGA, but in that case the one on the right would still praise Trump even though everything has turned to sh*t.[/QUOTE

? What is going on in Austria, You do know you can get your ass off the couch, And join the French and The English and Get into Ukraine and Fight. Who gives a flip about Elon, your a continent away, and you might want to take a look at what A FASCIST government and its people look like. It was not the Germans but,The Italians and Benito Mussolini they were the first fascist. And their uniform was all black. Fast forward to today and who runs around in Black Hoodies and face mask. It's the Urban uniform of the fascist. And what is so ridiculous is in The United States where Democracy is the cry of the land, we have these young people running and rampaging, and if you look back at Benito's time they look the same.

[QUOTE=Ostfriese;2948725]No, that's not what I'm saying, but I don't think you'll be able/willing to understand what I want to say, so I won't waste my precious time.

Oh, and you "pay up, Europe" guys will also experience a surprise. Yes, Europe is doing so now, but any money that will be allocated now has to be spent in Europe. So far the European nations spent 63% of their procurement money on American weapons. That's btw. the reason why your corporate overlords hammered the idea of "pay up" into your conservative brains.

However, exactly 0% of the money allocated now and in the near future will be spent in the US or on US companies. Apart from that European countries have also begun to opt out of contracts for American weapons, most notably the F-35. The reasoning behind that: nations don't think America is reliable enough any more to deliver spare parts, software updates and so on.

In short: this will be costly for the US weapons industry. The losses are estimated to be as low as $1 trillion over the next ten years and as high as $6 trillion.
Well done :D

We must be living in the stupidest time line possible. The Trump government has asked European companies to export more eggs to the USA. Which country did they ask first? Denmark (Source, in Danish: https://agriwatch.dk/Nyheder/Landbrug/article17985104.ece)


"Hey, we will invade a part of your country if you don't hand it over immediately. Oh, um, could we borrows some eggs, please?" :haha::har:

We, Don't need your eggs, And as a liberal tonight, You have to pay your share to stay in the tribe. What is it you don't understand ? And you have cut some welfare programs to build more weapons. As a tribe your country has to support the Ukraines! The USA. Has done it's part now it is your turn. Your Government wants war well you have to pay for war .

You want to reduce vulnerability to corruption, and you want that the more the more critical and influential a given job or office is.


There are two forms of corruption employees can be prone to: greed, and need.



The first is if you get enough but think its never enough, you always want more.


The second is if you want to be able to live a reasonable and affordable life, pay for your kids' education, and put some money aside for when you grow old, and you want not needing to worry whether all the lose ends and open bills you can service by the end of the month.


Governments themselves have an own interest as well. They want a loyal gang of accomplices that help to enforce "government" onto the ordinary people, and plunder them and live off them. It gets even more dubious if government, or state, translates into "political parties" and "individual politicians' career interest". Thats the case in practically every nation in the West, and most nations on the globe. Honestyl said: thinking of it I cannot come up with one exception from this rule.



How to solve all this dilemma? Cut back the state as much as possible. I see no other solution that has a chance to work over the longer run.



Of course, state and government want exactly the opposite: as much of themselves as possible, and then ever more. And so they continue to feed their gang of accomplices, and bribe those they formally need to "elect" them with what before they have stolen from them, and they even steal the future of the kids and young.

I have a better idea, Give every citizen, who reaches retirement age 20 million dollars.And let them escape to wherever. They have paid in.

In the two separate cases on the dismissal of thousands of civil servants in their probationary period, two judges on Thursday fielded harsh judgments. One called the dismissals a ‘sham’, the other argued that how they were carried out ‘bordered on the ridiculous’. There are more powers than state and government for good reason. The ‘performance’ of the officials was cited as the reason for the dismissals. But in the opinion of both judges, it was not actually to do so. The government is said to have used it as a ‘trick’ to circumvent legislation on structural downsizing of the government's actual purpose.

Judge William Alsup called it ‘sad’ that ‘our government fires good civil servants, supposedly because of their performance, when they know full well that is not true’. In the other case, Judge James Bredar said that many of the dismissal letters civil servants received ‘did not even superficially’ indicate anything about their performance.

And if the A/C went out in your house over the weekend. And i decided i did not want to come to work to be available to fix it.I would be fired.Civil servants are what they are. Civil servant's , I've never known one that couldn't be replaced within 48 hrs. From the local High School.

Exocet25fr
03-17-25, 04:50 AM
The Statue of Liberty no longer has its place in NY........!:hmmm:

Skybird
03-17-25, 05:56 AM
[FAZ] Is this Trump's grand economic plan?
By Gerald Braunberger

In the United States, ideas for a reorganization of the world's trade and financial system are circulating. Anyone who wants to be defended by America should buy American government bonds.

In 2002, the conservative American politician and journalist Patrick Buchanan wrote a book entitled "The Death of the West." As a Bible-believing Christian, he equated "global capitalists" with Cain and "true conservatives" with Abel, and predicted: "Because it is an elite project of unknown and unloved architects, globalism will founder on the Great Barrier Reef of patriotism."

Donald Trump may not cite Buchanan. But, as political scientist Hal Brands writes in an article for "Foreign Affairs," not only has Trump also recognized that globalization has gone too far, he also intuitively understands what many liberal internationalists have forgotten: order arises from power and can hardly be maintained without it. Trump isn't wrong in this perception, Brand believes. Especially in a world of expanding autocracies, "a superpower with sharp elbows might not be the worst thing right now."

The superpower is also showing sharp elbows in economic matters, with announcements of tariffs and the occasional swift retraction of these announcements by its hyperactive leader. Behind these seemingly erratic decisions, however, there may be a blueprint developed by conservative think tanks and discussed by other scholars that comprehensively summarizes political, military, and economic requirements, which in more unbiased times would have been called a "grand strategy."

The starting point is the thesis that in a more conflict-ridden world, the United States must rely more heavily on its own industry to secure its defense capabilities. "Without steel, you don't have a country," Trump once said. The severe loss of industry in recent decades is seen in this regard as an obstacle to its own arms production. However, the loss of industry is not explained by a lack of international competitiveness, but rather as the result of an overvaluation of the dollar, which is detrimental from the industry's perspective and which arises in part from global investors' demand for US government bonds as a safe investment for the world.

The United States also does not want to forgo the dollar's international role for security policy reasons. Because it secures power through the dollar's dominance in the world's capital markets. And because this makes it possible to use the dollar as a weapon, for example, in the form of economic sanctions. This creates a dilemma for Washington: From an industrial perspective, the dollar is too strong – but from an economic perspective, it must not become too weak.

In November 2024, Stephen Miran developed economic policy options for such a situation. At the time, Miran worked for the financial firm Hudson Bay Capital; he recently chaired the President's Council of Economic Advisors. "Contrary to much discussion on Wall Street and in academia, there are effective tools with which a government can influence the conditions of foreign trade, the value of the currency, and the structure of international economic relations," Miran wrote in November. "The Trump administration will likely increasingly link trade policy with security policy by viewing the provision of foreign exchange reserves and a security umbrella as intertwined and seeking a shared burden-sharing for both."

From the perspective of Germany, which has fallen into a deep geopolitical slumber in recent decades, linking economic and security policy seems alien. It is rather commonplace for the "grand strategy" of a global power; but its implementation is usually accompanied by diplomacy rather than by blows with a square of timber.

For trade policy, it is important to note that the average tariff rate levied by the United States on goods and services is lower than the average tariff rate levied by the European Union, the People's Republic of China, and many other countries. Trump's complaints about the United States being disadvantaged compared to its trading partners have a basis. What is more surprising is the idea of ​​a virtually borderless unrelenting power of tariff policy, which is intended to punish and discipline other countries while simultaneously filling the American coffers – and to do so without harming the United States in the long term. "This policy can help secure the American advantage in high-quality industrial production, slow and prevent the exodus of industry, and improve the negotiating position for obtaining from other countries the opening of their markets to American products or the defense of American intellectual property rights," writes Miran.

Securing the dollar as the leading currency and US Treasury bonds as a safe investment poses challenges other than trade policy. Miran emphasizes that his considerations should not be understood as a list of economic policy recommendations, as they have either never been tried before or come from the distant past. At their core, they involve the establishment of a new exchange rate system in the world, combined with restrictions on the free movement of capital that are uncharacteristic of the United States and potentially dangerous for the status of its Treasury bonds.

A new agreement on exchange rates had previously been proposed by Zoltan Poszar, one of the most widely read economists on Wall Street; Since then, it has circulated in the financial world under the name "Mar-a-Lago Accord." The name borrows from the "Louvre Accord" and the "Plaza Accord," two rather short-lived agreements on exchange rate targets between the leading Western industrial nations in the 1980s.

Poszar had drawn close links between exchange rate and security policy for a future "Mar-a-Lago Accord." His principles are: A common security zone with the United States is a public good, to be financed by its members through the purchase of US Treasury bonds. A common security zone is an investment, which should therefore be financed by 100-year US Treasury bonds and not just short-term government securities. And third, a common security zone is, so to speak, supported by barbed wire: Members who exchange 100-year bonds for shorter-term securities are penalized with tariffs. It would also be conceivable to increase the cost of selling US Treasury bonds through penalty fees.

For the Americans, the forced purchase of 100-year government bonds by central banks and sovereign wealth funds from security partners would have major advantages: They would not have to worry about refinancing even very large government deficits in the long run. Partners could be "convinced" of such an arrangement by first imposing high tariffs on them, which would then be lifted after they enter into a "Mar-a-Lago Accord."

These are, of course, economist considerations that in no way need to become part of official American policy. Even Miran recommends the utmost caution in the event of its implementation – a trait that seems rather alien to Trump. Wall Street's reactions to the new administration's performances so far already indicate a damaging influence of the uncertainty generated by Trump. Miran admits that the path to a successful combination of economic and security policy is narrow.

Political scientist Brands, on the other hand, is more blunt about what Trump has promised so far. "This program could fail due to its own contradictions," he warns, adding: "Trump will have a difficult time simultaneously increasing military spending, cutting taxes, and reducing the deficit."

Also in "Foreign Affairs," political scientist Michael Kimmage describes the devastating consequences of an overly aggressive tariff policy. "If Trump imposes the extreme 60 percent tariffs he has threatened, he will hit China's export-dependent economy hard," writes Kimmage. "Aggressive protectionism would diminish the collective prosperity that has long held the democratic world together and destroy the cohesion needed to contain a mercantilist China." Brands succinctly summarizes: "The potential benefits of a Trump presidency are considerable. The potential downsides are an abyss."

Exocet25fr
03-17-25, 08:58 AM
https://www.artymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/trump-vasco-gargalo-statue-de-la-liberte-caricature.jpg

Buddahaid
03-17-25, 10:52 AM
...

The only people with TDS are MAGA.

Skybird
03-17-25, 11:39 AM
[Die Welt] To protect his critics from Donald Trump's vindictive justice, Joe Biden issued numerous preemptive pardons, including for his son Hunter. Now Trump claims the pardons are invalid because Biden did not personally sign them. The US President provides no evidence.

US President Donald Trump has, according to his own statements, revoked preemptive pardons issued by his predecessor, Joe Biden, for known Trump opponents. On Monday, Trump stated on his online platform Truth Social, without any evidence, that Biden did not personally sign the pardons shortly before the end of his term. Rather, the relevant documents were signed using a signature machine.

He therefore declares the pardons invalid, Trump wrote on Truth Social. They no longer have any effect. If Trump's argument were followed, however, several of his own executive orders and pardons would also no longer be valid, as they were also signed using a signature machine.

In January, shortly before the end of his term, Biden issued a series of preemptive pardons, including for members of the congressional committee investigating the storming of the Capitol by radical Trump supporters in January 2021. Biden sought to protect Trump critics like former Republican Representative Liz Cheney from possible politically motivated prosecution. Trump had repeatedly promised revenge against political opponents during the election campaign.
No Evidence of Acceptance of a Signature Machine

On Monday, Trump stated on Truth Social that the members of the former congressional committee should have known that they could be investigated "at the highest levels." However, Trump provided no evidence that the pardon documents were actually signed by a machine and not by Biden personally. Nor did Trump explain why such signatures should be invalid.
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mapuc
03-17-25, 12:15 PM
They would say it's impossible it can't be done, if I say: Is Trump on his way to turn America into a dictatorship ?

Markus

Catfish
03-17-25, 12:29 PM
Sorry, can't keep up obviously :oops:
I wrote
^ This lol
Victor D. Hanson is right. On the other hand no word about Trump's plans. I mean he describes it as if he was lecturing Europe but it is the US that does a 180 degree turn and is suddenly best friends with Russia and China.
Best friends? Really?
No not the US, sorry, and probably not China. But Trump seems to think that Putin is his friend on a personal level, and he could not be more wrong.

Skybird
03-17-25, 12:29 PM
Yes.

Buddahaid
03-17-25, 12:37 PM
They would say it's impossible it can't be done, if I say: Is Trump on his way to turn America into a dictatorship ?

Markus

Looks like it to me. When MAGA get stomped in the midterms the results will declared invalid.

Dargo
03-17-25, 12:37 PM
And if the A/C went out in your house over the weekend. And i decided i did not want to come to work to be available to fix it.I would be fired.Civil servants are what they are. Civil servant's , I've never known one that couldn't be replaced within 48 hrs. From the local High School.If my A/C goes out no civil servant will fix it sure because my A/C is not build or maintained by civil servants. Our energy network is owned and controlled by companies that are independent of the state! Duh!

u crank
03-17-25, 01:36 PM
Looks like it to me. When MAGA get stomped in the midterms the results will declared invalid.

Well it is a way off yet but the Democrat party's favorability will have to improve quite a bit for a stomping.

Among the American public overall, the Democratic Party’s favorability rating stands at just 29% – a record low in CNN’s polling dating back to 1992

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/16/politics/cnn-poll-democrats/index.html

Aktungbby
03-17-25, 01:57 PM
:hmmm:...at a time when he's massively disrupting the planet economy, NATO allies, and DEI;shouldn't our 'fearless Kremlin (Agent Krasnov”) flunky' be in his oval office (justifying his own job) minding Mr. Musk's D.O.G.E depredations! https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/again-trump-wins-golf-championship/ar-AA1B2kHr?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=e33c6ffd3754444b8222eda2ade68c7a&ei=24 instead of hitting-the-links with his 'stiff putter and dimpled balls'??! https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1B2iqK.img?w=768&h=512&m=6 :hmmm: afterall, he's certainly no Ike Eisenhower! Then again, small wonder France wants it's Statue of Liberty back!https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/general-dwight-eisenhower-plays-golf-everett.jpg:Kaleun_Salute: https://apnews.com/article/france-trump-statue-of-liberty-glucksmann-248cbd501c7b66d7b37988bf6abdacf8

MaDef
03-17-25, 02:43 PM
LMAO Trump has set up shop rent free in your heads. :Kaleun_Cheers:

Aktungbby
03-17-25, 03:04 PM
LMAO Trump has set up shop rent free in your heads. :Kaleun_Cheers::hmmm:...well, having made the same mistake twice in eight years, 'Merikan voters' heads are clearly devoid of content to begin with.:Kaleun_Crying: :Kaleun_Goofy: :Kaleun_Mad:

August
03-17-25, 03:07 PM
LMAO Trump has set up shop rent free in your heads. :Kaleun_Cheers:
He sure has! and it is fun to watch.


BTW look at how spry Trumpie is? Nothing like the old Fuddy Duddie that the Democrats got elected!


https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1B2iqK.img?w=768&h=512&m=6

mapuc
03-17-25, 03:25 PM
:hmmm:...well, having made the same mistake twice in eight years, 'Merikan voters' heads are clearly devoid of content to begin with.:Kaleun_Crying: :Kaleun_Goofy: :Kaleun_Mad:

It's not only the 'merican voters heads who seems to be without content-Even the European voters have empty heads-

Markus

Buddahaid
03-17-25, 03:38 PM
LMAO Trump has set up shop rent free in your heads. :Kaleun_Cheers:

No, not rent free. It will cost American consumers plenty and likely hurt red state voters to a higher degree.

Buddahaid
03-17-25, 07:53 PM
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1B2iqK.img?w=768&h=512&m=6

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_large/0/3125/2152824-pogo1.jpg

August
03-17-25, 08:20 PM
:hmmm:...well, having made the same mistake twice in eight years, 'Merikan voters' heads are clearly devoid of content to begin with.:Kaleun_Crying: :Kaleun_Goofy: :Kaleun_Mad:


Oh yeah the old Democrat strategy of calling everyone stupid. How did that work out for ya? :haha:

Catfish
03-18-25, 06:59 AM
^ very bad I guess, when the stupid have the power :yep:

Skybird
03-18-25, 07:18 AM
This is very dangerous, because the Donald has the self-image of a divinely appointed king with unlimited and unrestricted authority. In other words, laws can't touch him, he thinks they weren't made for him, he can override them at will.


So much for checks and balances. The self-image of a dictator.


https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/18/politics/trump-deportations-judge-executive-power/index.html

August
03-18-25, 08:41 AM
^ very bad I guess, when the stupid have the power :yep:


Except that people who voted in Angela Merkel have no business calling anyone else stupid.

Buddahaid
03-18-25, 09:32 AM
Stupidity knows no bounds. Looks like the peacemaking divine king of MAGA is escalating the war in the Middle East. He does need to start a war to use war powers.

Catfish
03-18-25, 09:43 AM
Except that people who voted in Angela Merkel have no business calling anyone else stupid.
So Aktung voted for Angela Merkel? Nor me b.t.w. :03:

MaDef
03-18-25, 10:12 AM
No, not rent free. It will cost American consumers plenty and likely hurt red state voters to a higher degree. That's what happens when your Government decides to spend beyond it's means and there needs to be a course correction. Look what happened to Greece, Argentina, Lebanon, Venezuela, and a few other countries that went bankrupt.

This is very dangerous, because the Donald has the self-image of a divinely appointed king with unlimited and unrestricted authority. In other words, laws can't touch him, he thinks they weren't made for him, he can override them at will.


So much for checks and balances. The self-image of a dictator.


https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/18/politics/trump-deportations-judge-executive-power/index.html

Sorry, no sale, Trump was within the Law (and the Constitution) on this one, and the Judges order came down too late, those boys were already putting their their seats in an upright position and buckling their seatbelts for landing. :03:

Buddahaid
03-18-25, 10:45 AM
That’s the story but today there will be statements under oath in court.

Otto Harkaman
03-18-25, 11:03 AM
Contesting or reinterpreting Marbury v. Madison—the foundational case establishing judicial review—would involve reexamining several core constitutional doctrines. While such a challenge is highly hypothetical given the case’s entrenched role in American jurisprudence, here are some key legal terms and concepts that would likely come to the forefront:
Key Legal Terms and Concepts

Judicial Review:
Marbury established that federal courts have the power to review legislative and executive actions to determine if they are consistent with the Constitution. A reinterpretation might narrow or redefine the scope of this power.
Separation of Powers:
Any attempt to modify Marbury would require a fresh look at the balance among the three branches of government. The debate would focus on whether the judiciary should have broad authority to check the other branches or if its role should be more limited.
Checks and Balances:
This doctrine ensures that no single branch becomes too dominant. Reinterpreting Marbury could shift how checks are distributed, potentially altering how the courts, Congress, and the President interact with one another.
Stare Decisis:
The principle of respecting precedent is central to American law. Overturning or significantly modifying Marbury would challenge decades of precedent and could lead to a wider reconsideration of other established doctrines.
Judicial Activism vs. Judicial Restraint:
A contested Marbury might ignite debate over whether courts should actively interpret and enforce constitutional norms (activism) or limit themselves to a narrower, more deferential role (restraint).
Constitutional Supremacy and Interpretation:
This involves the debate between originalism (interpreting the Constitution based on its original meaning) and living constitutionalism (seeing the Constitution as evolving with society). Changes to Marbury might signal a shift in how the Court views its role in interpreting constitutional text.

Potential Implications

Redefining Judicial Boundaries:
A modified interpretation could potentially limit the ability of the courts to nullify legislative or executive actions, thus affecting the balance of power across branches.
Impact on Legal Precedents:
Changing Marbury would not only affect future cases but might also prompt challenges to a host of decisions that have relied on its principles, potentially reshaping the landscape of constitutional law.
Legislative and Executive Reactions:
If judicial review were curtailed, the other branches might gain more unilateral power, which could raise concerns about protecting individual rights and maintaining a system of checks and balances.

In essence, contesting or reinterpreting Marbury v. Madison would force the legal system to reevaluate fundamental questions about the role of the judiciary in safeguarding the Constitution, potentially reshaping the doctrine of judicial review and the overall balance of powers within the federal government.

VipertheSniper
03-18-25, 12:34 PM
Sorry, no sale, Trump was within the Law (and the Constitution) on this one, and the Judges order came down too late, those boys were already putting their their seats in an upright position and buckling their seatbelts for landing. :03:

That is what the DOJ is arguing, but if he was, why not follow proper procedure then and adjudicate it and have it black on white, before deporting them?? They had them in custody. What could the deported possibly have done in custody that was a danger to the national security of the US?

I don't think a government should operate in the mode of better ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.

AVGWarhawk
03-18-25, 12:42 PM
That is what the DOJ is arguing, but if he was, why not follow proper procedure then and adjudicate it and have it black on white, before deporting them?? They had them in custody. What could the deported possibly have done in custody that was a danger to the national security of the US?

I don't think a government should operate in the mode of better ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.

Congress has had decades to create new laws concerning deportation of illegals. They did NOTHING. So, we relay on an old law. Trump used it. It may not have fit the law exactly but oh well, they are gone before DOJ attempted to stop it. These gang members were in custody. These are NOT good people down on their luck. Besides, it was only a matter of time before they were deported. Tax dollars saved by pressing up the process. :salute:

AVGWarhawk
03-18-25, 12:44 PM
Sorry, no sale, Trump was within the Law (and the Constitution) on this one, and the Judges order came down too late, those boys were already putting their their seats in an upright position and buckling their seatbelts for landing. :03:

Wonder what the inflight movie was?

Jimbuna
03-18-25, 12:47 PM
Wonder what the inflight movie was?

Snakes on a Plane

(Sorry but I couldn't resist)

Commander Wallace
03-18-25, 12:51 PM
Snakes on a Plane

(Sorry but I couldn't resist)


They might have offered them a choice between 1. No way out. 2. Castaway 3. The good, the bad and the Ugly or 4. Hang em' high. :03:


All of them would be a good choice. :yep:

AVGWarhawk
03-18-25, 12:55 PM
Snakes on a Plane

(Sorry but I couldn't resist)

Boy, I'd say. I can't understand the uproar. These guys are not good people. A video shows how they were handled when the plane touched down. How the guards handled the intake is their business.

VipertheSniper
03-18-25, 01:30 PM
Congress has had decades to create new laws concerning deportation of illegals. They did NOTHING. So, we relay on an old law. Trump used it. It may not have fit the law exactly but oh well, they are gone before DOJ attempted to stop it. These gang members were in custody. These are NOT good people down on their luck. Besides, it was only a matter of time before they were deported. Tax dollars saved by pressing up the process. :salute:

So checks and balances out the window for a few bucks. sarcastic :Kaleun_Applaud:

AVGWarhawk
03-18-25, 01:34 PM
So checks and balances out the window for a few bucks. sarcastic :Kaleun_Applaud:

It was inevitable. Why bother with semantics from a DOJ judge appointed by Obama.

MaDef
03-18-25, 01:49 PM
That is what the DOJ is arguing, but if he was, why not follow proper procedure then and adjudicate it and have it black on white, before deporting them?? They had them in custody. What could the deported possibly have done in custody that was a danger to the national security of the US?

I don't think a government should operate in the mode of better ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.

You still don't get it, these are NOT U.S citizens, nor are they even invited "guests" (visa, Green card holders), they are simply trespassers.

AVGWarhawk
03-18-25, 01:52 PM
You still don't get it, these are NOT U.S citizens, nor are they even invited "guests" (visa, Green card holders), they are simply trespassers.

These individuals were more than trespassers. El Salvador's President Nayib Bukele wrote on social media that 238 members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua had arrived in the Central American country, along with 23 members of the international MS-13 gang, on Sunday morning.

VipertheSniper
03-18-25, 02:31 PM
You still don't get it, these are NOT U.S citizens, nor are they even invited "guests" (visa, Green card holders), they are simply trespassers.

No you don't get it, but go off. No due process because Trump declared them terrorists, do we know they are terrorists or even gang members for sure?
No we don't, because there was no due process you imbecile.

Ascertain the facts in a court of law, then deport them if you have to. Not this cloak and dagger operation of, we get them out of the country so no one can do anything about it nonsense.

And I've provided a link before to a case of a german greencard holder who I believe is still in custody for unknown reasons, can he also just be disappeared to El Salvador now?

MaDef
03-18-25, 02:40 PM
No you don't get it, but go off. No due process because Trump declared them terrorists, do we know they are terrorists or even gang members for sure?
No we don't, because there was no due process you imbecile.

Ascertain the facts in a court of law, then deport them if you have to. Not this cloak and dagger operation of, we get them out of the country so no one can do anything about it nonsense

Due process is for citizens and invited guests, not for trespassers, they get shown the door.

I wonder If you people over in the EU would mind if we sent them your way?

AVGWarhawk
03-18-25, 02:41 PM
No you don't get it, but go off. No due process because Trump declared them terrorists, do we know they are terrorists or even gang members for sure?
No we don't, because there was no due process you imbecile.

Ascertain the facts in a court of law, then deport them if you have to. Not this cloak and dagger operation of, we get them out of the country so no one can do anything about it nonsense

ICE knows who these people are. Due process? They are here illegally. A court of law is not required. Not a US citizen. Due process is not afforded from my understanding. And to add, the intake by the guards, they know who these people are. These people are criminals of record in their own country.

VipertheSniper
03-18-25, 03:07 PM
ICE knows who these people are. Due process? They are here illegally. A court of law is not required. Not a US citizen. Due process is not afforded from my understanding. And to add, the intake by the guards, they know who these people are. These people are criminals of record in their own country.

So if there's no due process for trespassers, why was it necessary to declare them terrorists?
Either you can deport them because they're trespassers or you can't without process.

AVGWarhawk
03-18-25, 03:11 PM
So if there's no due process for trespassers, why was it necessary to declare them terrorists?
Either you can deport them because they're trespassers or you can't without process.

IMO, gangs are terrorist. Guessing Trump feels the same way. But you are arguing semantic. Potato, potah-to, tomato, ta-mahto. Tresspasser or terrorist. They may come back through the legal channels. But then again, being a known felon that ship has sailed.

Catfish
03-18-25, 03:16 PM
Due process is for citizens and invited guests, not for trespassers, they get shown the door. [...]
Why do they target green card holders then?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/germany-investigates-after-national-with-green-card-arrested-at-us-border

AVGWarhawk
03-18-25, 03:19 PM
Why do they target green card holders then?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/germany-investigates-after-national-with-green-card-arrested-at-us-border

This is not ICE. US Border. That question is best left to them. My 70 yo father was detained at the airport because he had 2 Bic Lighters in his pocket. This occurred 15 years ago. Everyone is a target when entering or leaving the USA. TSA are horrible.

Catfish
03-18-25, 03:34 PM
Ok but for me it looks like they are lashing about.without tegard for the law everywhere.
And the courts cannot keep up against the intentional flooding of +-legal presidential orders.
Don't get me wrong, deportincg criminal gang members is perfectly ok with me, but i honestly fear for the US laws and constitution under Trump.
I hope the future proves me wrong.

Aktungbby
03-18-25, 03:49 PM
I hope the future proves me wrong. It won't!

AVGWarhawk
03-18-25, 03:57 PM
Ok but for me it looks like they are lashing about.without tegard for the law everywhere.
And the courts cannot keep up against the intentional flooding of +-legal presidential orders.
Don't get me wrong, deportincg criminal gang members is perfectly ok with me, but i honestly fear for the US laws and constitution under Trump.
I hope the future proves me wrong.

US laws and constitution will remain intact no matter what Buddahaid says.

MaDef
03-18-25, 04:04 PM
Why do they target green card holders then?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/germany-investigates-after-national-with-green-card-arrested-at-us-border
You'll notice they were all "crossing" the borders. and looks like a few of them were probably screwups by the visa holder. If you hold a tourist visa, you cannot work (the Canadian & English woman). I remember the Canadian girl, seems she was on a tourist visa while in LA. went to Mexico and tried to come back in with all her tattoo gear. As for the Germans, I have a feeling that we didn't get the whole story. Just a lot of "whoa is me" from people who , odds are, turned on the "attitude" when dealing with the customs/immigration people.

Sorry, Everyone including U.S. citizens are scrutinized when coming into the country. What else you got?

MaDef
03-18-25, 04:11 PM
Ok but for me it looks like they are lashing about.without tegard for the law everywhere.
And the courts cannot keep up against the intentional flooding of +-legal presidential orders.
Don't get me wrong, deportincg criminal gang members is perfectly ok with me, but i honestly fear for the US laws and constitution under Trump.
I hope the future proves me wrong.

It's not the courts job to ride herd on the Executive branch, IF "someone with standing" has a legit gripe they bring it to the court, That part I put in quotes is very important. because as far as I know, it was activists that filed for the injunction, not the people who the law affected.

Buddahaid
03-18-25, 04:28 PM
US laws and constitution will remain intact no matter what Buddahaid says.

Just ignored when inconvenient. Lawlessness.

Buddahaid
03-18-25, 04:30 PM
It's not the courts job to ride herd on the Executive branch, IF "someone with standing" has a legit gripe they bring it to the court, That part I put in quotes is very important. because as far as I know, it was activists that filed for the injunction, not the people who the law affected.

Plaintiffs have to show standing and the court has to recognize it. It's not a spin the wheel guessing game.

Chief Justice Roberts has chimed in and told Trump to back off on the impeachment BS. Trump is losing the SCOTUS slowly but surely.

Skybird
03-18-25, 05:47 PM
[FOCUS] Economists warn that Trump's tariff policy is driving up inflation and interest rates. But a paper by his future chief advisor shows that Team Trump doesn't care about economic rules – they prefer to use the tools of the mafia.

At a breathtaking pace, the 47th US president is dismantling institutions, old alliances – and the rules of global trade established over centuries. Some wonder whether there is a long-term plan behind Donald Trump's seemingly erratic decisions – raising tariffs, lowering them, then doubling them. The disturbing news is: There actually is one – and it has even been known since November 2024.

Shortly after Trump's presidential victory, Stephen Miran, senior strategist at the investment firm Hudson Bay Capital, published a 40-page dossier entitled "A User's Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System." Miran isn't just any economist: Trump wants him to chair his advisory board on economic issues. It has since become clear: Stephen Miran formulated the script back then, which Donald Trump has been implementing almost exactly to the letter since his inauguration in January 2025.

The opening sentence already contains a sentence that has been heard several times from the US President in recent weeks: "The root of economic imbalances lies in the persistent overvaluation of the dollar, which prevents international trade from balancing." The desire to reform the global trading system and make it fairer to the rest of the world has been "a constant theme for President Trump for decades."

The paper lists various instruments for correcting these alleged imbalances. These include tariffs, inflation, exchange rates, and international foreign exchange and trade flows.

Most economists are convinced that Trump's tariffs will fuel inflation in the US – thus, at the expense of US consumers. Miran brushes aside these concerns: The critics' considerations are "too short-term" or "not thought through." Instead, the following applies: "The exchange rate change and the (tariff) tariff almost completely cancel each other out." This was already the case in 2018, when Trump imposed tariffs on China during his first presidency.

The economist rejects criticism that prices didn't rise at the time only because importers couldn't pass the higher prices on to their customers, thus losing money. He argues that it is "bizarre" to assume that in economies with sufficient competition, importers would not restore their profit margins over time "by changing their suppliers." It just takes time.

This passage fits perfectly with Trump's recent statements that Americans still need to be patient because the economy is in a "transitional phase," just like in the conflict with China.

The essay also shows that the Trump camp sees tariffs as a source of permanently higher government revenue. Donald Trump needs this so that he can implement his election promises.

But that will only work if the volume of imported goods does not decrease significantly despite tariffs. And there are two further problems: Because even the tariffs won't raise enough money to fully implement the announced tax cuts, Trump will have to take on hundreds of billions of dollars in new debt.

A strong dollar and high interest rates, however, run counter to this plan. This year, the US will have to pay a trillion dollars in interest on its national debt for the first time. Therefore, he needs another mechanism to suppress the dollar: a non-scientific one.

This attempt has already been made – in a friendly form: In 1985, then-US President Ronald Reagan persuaded the friendly countries of Great Britain, Japan, Germany, and France to jointly devalue the dollar. Reagan's goal at the time: to strengthen the US's industrial competitiveness. The meeting took place at New York's Plaza Hotel, which gave the agreement its name: the "Plaza Accord."

Trump's team met regularly at his Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida during his presidential campaign and in the period between his second election and his inauguration – and hatched a new plan. Miran calls it the "Mar-a-Lago" Accord.

In the chapter "Multilateral Monetary Approaches," starting on page 28, the author outlines a scenario that could have come from a mafia movie: I'll only protect you if you pay.

Trump's new chief advisor presents a whole cabinet of horrors of measures available to the United States and its Federal Reserve to influence the trading of US Treasury bonds, the creation of dollar reserves, and the dollar exchange rate itself. These range from fees on holding government bonds to the arbitrary reduction of promised interest payments to a ban on resale.

What Miran specifically envisions: Various countries should help depress the dollar, as they did in 1985 – and still continue to buy government bonds from the US. However, in order for the amount of dollars hoarded abroad to decrease at the same time (in order to reduce the current account deficit), these government bonds must be worth less than their predecessors. How do you do that? By forcing the current owners to exchange valuable, high-interest bonds for zero-percent bonds with a remaining term of 100 years (“century bonds”). One could also say: for almost worthless securities.

From the US perspective, this would be brilliant: The government, which has to spend a trillion dollars on interest payments this year alone, would suddenly have more leeway in its budget.

But how do you get the parties involved to participate in such an obviously unprofitable deal? Hungarian-born economist Zoltan Poszar, chief economist at Crédit Suisse until 2023, drafted the plan for Trump's team in 2024. If a country provides military protection to others, it must also be paid for by those who use it – by purchasing US government bonds. Miran is now taking up the issue: All countries outside the US must decide whether they want to be considered friends of the US, neutral bystanders, or enemies. Only the "friends" would still be protected by the US nuclear umbrella. In return, they would fulfill the US's economic and financial conditions.

So it's nothing more than protection money – and it will be for decades. And it sounds so simple – probably right up Trump's alley.

What Miran leaves out: The largest foreign holders of US Treasuries are the Chinese. The communist regime in Beijing and its banks hold around three trillion dollars. But China is unlikely to be interested in US military protection. Japan comes second with $1.2 trillion and Switzerland with $800 billion. The situation is different in the Eurozone: US Treasuries are only worth around $280 billion. As a result, Europe is – even more – dependent on US military protection. However, in all democratic countries, the bonds are held not only by central banks, but also by commercial banks, insurance companies, and other asset managers – which are completely politically independent.

But that doesn't matter to Miran.

And how do you get all these countries in line? This brings us full circle: "It's easier to imagine that, after a series of punitive tariffs, trading partners like Europe and China will become more receptive to some kind of currency agreement in exchange for a reduction in tariffs," the dossier states.

Too absurd to be true? Indeed, the Trump administration is already thinking similarly elsewhere. On Friday, the New York Times, citing government sources, reported that the administration had compiled a list of 43 countries for which entry restrictions of varying severity would apply. According to the NYT, there are three lists: a red one (entry ban), an orange one (entry only for "wealthy businesspeople"), and a yellow one.

So far, the list only includes countries such as Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen, Cuba, and North Korea (red group), or Belarus, Eritrea, Haiti, Pakistan, and Russia (orange). However, the definition of the third, yellow group, is striking. According to the NYT, these countries will be given 60 days to address concerns raised by the US government. Otherwise, they are placed on the red or orange list.

Only 43 of the world's 191 countries are currently affected. But the division into three groups probably doesn't coincidentally correspond to the aforementioned protection money proposal. And it would be easy to assign European states the yellow status if the goal was to put pressure on them.

The selection into friend and foe may have already begun.

MaDef
03-18-25, 05:59 PM
Plaintiffs have to show standing and the court has to recognize it. It's not a spin the wheel guessing game.

Chief Justice Roberts has chimed in and told Trump to back off on the impeachment BS. Trump is losing the SCOTUS slowly but surely.

No he didn't. his words were:

"For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision."

Besides Trump can call for an impeachment, but it takes Congress to actually bring charges and the Senate to convict.

Trumps calls for impeaching judges is his way of telling judges to "stay in their lane" and not overstep their authority. (which in this case I think the Judge did). In other words it's just hyperbole, which is something liberals should be able to spot pretty quick, since they use it so frequently, especially when it comes to "existential threats to democracy".

Buddahaid
03-18-25, 06:11 PM
My statement stands.

Skybird
03-18-25, 08:05 PM
https://youtu.be/Bm2Bays51hE?si=1kFkFYIS-OS3Vyfe

Skybird
03-18-25, 08:08 PM
https://youtu.be/DJsngculfKo?si=fMyqpo0l9Dd7AAqX

Buddahaid
03-18-25, 08:13 PM
I thought happened last week.

August
03-19-25, 12:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv3IZ2Xamvo

Otto Harkaman
03-19-25, 08:29 AM
https://youtu.be/ptctrYTt2OQ?si=WX5pBc-eL45_GIYz

https://youtu.be/YTI4P1VXOEk?si=Scvz2qFipaAgTUpA

mapuc
03-19-25, 08:54 AM
Are USA really on it's way out of NATO ?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-admin-considers-giving-nato-command-exclusively-american-eisenho-rcna196503

Markus

Otto Harkaman
03-19-25, 09:15 AM
https://youtu.be/YpvI7BqWKws?si=rzCZ674OM1UUGFb0

Skybird
03-19-25, 10:50 AM
Are USA really on it's way out of NATO ?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-admin-considers-giving-nato-command-exclusively-american-eisenho-rcna196503

Markus
By now I have mentally fully adapted to what by now I see as irreversible fact: that the alliance between the US and Europe is no more and that America is a not even a friend and partner anymore. I see the US as a neutral at best - with rapdily declining and further cooling of relations,
and I see the real danger that Europe will be divided between Washington and Moscow, with America attacking with economic weapons and Russia attacking with military means. There is no trustworthiness of the US anymore.

With every week that Trump rages, I see the USA becoming more and more not kjust our opponent, but our enemy. It's not really a two-front war Europe is caught in, because the way Trump is positioning the US, Russia and the US are somehow one and the same, or rather: Trump is Putin's puppet, serving him as an unscrupulous accomplice.

Incidentally, the German Foreign Office has issued stricter travel warnings for the USA due to various incidents involving arrested tourists traveling to the USA from Germany. That is quite something.

Fully surprised I am not, that things were aiming at a break-up between the US and Europe was clear to me since longer time, since Obama'S first term. I am however surprised at the rapid speed at which things are detoriating. I did not expect the slide to accelerate this fast. Right now its almost a cascading effect. I think the development is irreversible.

Europe better quickly grows itself an awesome pair of big cojohnes, and fangs and claws. Else it can say farewell to the world stage within the next 10-15 years. Maybe even earlier...

mapuc
03-19-25, 10:58 AM
During the 80's, can't remember which year(s) Danish public tv had a series called wargames.

In one of them, the relationship between Europe and USA had turn into a crisis.

Canada ask for assistance and France send soldiers and fighter jet to Canada.
USA have started to drill for oil in the water east of Greenland, despite Europes protest.

There were some more into this story/game.

Markus

Aktungbby
03-19-25, 11:11 AM
Europe better quickly grows itself an awesome pair of big cojohnes. Else it can say farewell to the world stage within the next 10-15 years. Maybe even earlier......that's: 'cajones grandes mi amigo Alemano'!:O:; and your time line is precisely what the M.I.T.( as I've referenced in previous posts) study of "the end of civilization" predicts a 2040 finis.:Kaleun_Los: :oops::nope::dead:

August
03-19-25, 11:11 AM
During the 80's, can't remember which year(s) Danish public tv had a series called wargames.

In one of them, the relationship between Europe and USA had turn into a crisis.

Canada ask for assistance and France send soldiers and fighter jet to Canada.
USA have started to drill for oil in the water east of Greenland, despite Europes protest.

There were some more into this story/game.

Markus


Did you win?

mapuc
03-19-25, 11:44 AM
Did you win?

These scenarios(Wargames) did not have any winners or losers.

I came to remember two things more.

During the episode, which around 50 minutes, they now and then returned to an Boing 747 from New York trying to land in Paris, but are denied to do so and through the program you follow this passenger planes effort to land.

The episode ends with the crash of this 747 and a group of French and some other Europeans fighter jet approaching this American oilrig.

Markus

Catfish
03-19-25, 12:13 PM
The only reason why Trump puts tariffs on Canada is to destroy its economy, with the idea to later add it to the USA more easily.
I just wonder why. Maybe Aleksandr Dugin can answer this.

Buddahaid
03-19-25, 01:25 PM
The only reason why Trump puts tariffs on Canada is to destroy its economy, with the idea to later add it to the USA more easily.
I just wonder why. Maybe Aleksandr Dugin can answer this.

Not working out. Canada now has an agreement with Australia for an advanced surveillance system that was previously earmarked for the US.

EDIT: Well Trump got his wish. He's not Herbert Hoover, he's far worse.

Dargo
03-19-25, 02:18 PM
A growing number of Canadians are interested in joining the European Union, despite rising patriotism. A recent Abacus Data poll indicates nearly half of Canadians are in favour of joining the EU. A significant driver is economic pressure from the U.S., particularly regarding tariffs and the ongoing trade dispute. The Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) already boosts Canada-EU trade — valued at $157.3 billion in 2023, according to international.gc.ca — and joining the EU could further secure access to a stable single market of 27 nations.

Speaking at a joint press conference with French President Emmanuel Macron in Paris on Monday, Prime Minister Mark Carney said that Canada is, "the most European of non-European countries."

Skybird
03-19-25, 02:53 PM
"the most European of non-European countries."
That caused some sparks in my grey matter. :doh:


But okay, why not, let them in. They are much farther away than Turkey or the Middle East or North African states bordering the Mediterranean - and nevertheless so very much closer. :) I am sure the EU would change its statutes to allow Canada joining. And America's placeholder in Europe, the UK, is not in a position to spoil that match currently, thanks to Brexit.

Aktungbby
03-19-25, 03:26 PM
Not working out. Canada now has an agreement with Australia for an advanced surveillance system that was previously earmarked for the US.

EDIT: Well Trump got his wish. He's not Herbert Hoover, he's far worse....yeah...like a Hoover vacuum! :O:

Otto Harkaman
03-20-25, 06:49 AM
https://youtu.be/PJYGFEn9r1A?si=7_S669FAnbI-0B8c

https://youtu.be/A-Qt4fuj6OY?si=I1ovVey1XKctn7BT

Exocet25fr
03-20-25, 07:11 AM
Welcome Canadians.........!:03:

French parody about usa:24 years ago yet, today nothing has changed.....:yeah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et4eekh-5XE

AVGWarhawk
03-20-25, 07:19 AM
These scenarios(Wargames) did not have any winners or losers.

I came to remember two things more.

During the episode, which around 50 minutes, they now and then returned to an Boing 747 from New York trying to land in Paris, but are denied to do so and through the program you follow this passenger planes effort to land.

The episode ends with the crash of this 747 and a group of French and some other Europeans fighter jet approaching this American oilrig.

Markus

https://clickamericana.com/wp-content/uploads/Retro-1980s-War-Games-movie-poster.jpg

Cybermat47
03-20-25, 07:51 AM
The Trump administration’s policies against diversity, equity and inclusion resulted in Medal of Honor recipient Major General Charles Calvin Rogers’ page being removed from a Department of Defense website, with the URL of the defunct page being changed to ‘deimedal’ - seemingly implying that Major General Rogers only received the medal because he was a black man.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/16/defense-department-black-medal-of-honor-veteran

The page has since been restored, but only after there was an outcry against this gross insult against an American hero.

A spokesman for the Trump administration said that ‘I think the president and the secretary have been very clear on this – that anybody that says in the Department of Defense that diversity is our strength is, is frankly, incorrect’, ignoring the fact that US government policies that increased diversity in the military, such as the decision to allow black Americans to serve, the formation of the ‘nisei’ 442nd Infantry Regiment, and the desegregation of the military, have resulted in some of the finest feats of valour performed by American soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines.

The Trump administration also failed to apologise for insulting one of the nation’s heroes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/17/defense-department-black-medal-honor-webpage-restored

__________________________

In other news, the Trump administration has banned a French scientist from entering the country due to his criticism of Trump:

https://newrepublic.com/post/192946/french-scientist-denied-us-entry-trump-criticism

In other words, the Trump administration has spat on the traditional and fundamental US value of freedom of speech.

__________________________

In other other news…

A man who voted for President Donald Trump says he does not regret his decision, even after federal immigration authorities arrested his wife as the couple returned home from their honeymoon.

Earlier this month, ICE detained Jensy Machado, a naturalized U.S. citizen, in northern Virginia.

"They just got out of the car with the guns in their hands and say, turn off the car, give me the keys, open the window, you know. Everything was really fast," he told Telemundo 44 and NBC 4 Washington.

Machado added: "I voted for Trump last election, but, because I thought it was going to be the things, you know, like … just go against criminals, not every Hispanic looking, like, that they will assume that we are all illegals."

Reports have emerged that several legal residents and even some American citizens have been caught up in recent ICE raids and enforcement actions.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-voter-regret-choice-wife-ice-bradley-bartell-camila-munoz-2046988
__________________________

And, in yet more news, the Trump administration has continued its pro-Kremlin policies by erasing evidence of Russian war crimes against Ukraine. Researchers at Yale University were compiling information about Russia’s deportation of Ukrainian children to Russian homes; such an act is defined as genocide by the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, to which Russia is a signatory.

The information, which it was hoped could be used to find the abducted children and return them to their families, was seized and deleted by the Trump administration.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/trump-ukraine-children-russia-war-kidnapping-evidence-b2717730.html

AVGWarhawk
03-20-25, 08:00 AM
The Trump administration’s policies against diversity, equity and inclusion resulted in Medal of Honor recipient Major General Charles Calvin Rogers’ page being removed from a Department of Defense website, with the URL of the defunct page being changed to ‘deimedal’ - seemingly implying that Major General Rogers only received the medal because he was a black man.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/16/defense-department-black-medal-of-honor-veteran

The page has since been restored, but only after there was an outcry against this gross insult against an American hero.

A spokesman for the Trump administration said that ‘I think the president and the secretary have been very clear on this – that anybody that says in the Department of Defense that diversity is our strength is, is frankly, incorrect’, ignoring the fact that US government policies that increased diversity in the military, such as the decision to allow black Americans to serve, and then the desegregation of the military, have resulted in some of the finest feats of valour performed by American soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines.

The Trump administration also failed to apologise for insulting one of the nation’s heroes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/17/defense-department-black-medal-honor-webpage-restored

In other news, the Trump administration has banned a French scientist from entering the country due to his criticism of Trump:

https://newrepublic.com/post/192946/french-scientist-denied-us-entry-trump-criticism

In other words, the Trump administration has spat on the traditional and fundamental US value of freedom of speech.

In other other news…





https://www.newsweek.com/trump-voter-regret-choice-wife-ice-bradley-bartell-camila-munoz-2046988

Last I checked, Trump did not go to the website and pull down this individuals page of accomplishments. The question is, who did and why.

French scientist was "allegedly" denied. He was or he wasn't. These news oulets do this crap constantly. Headlines and verbiage of "it could", "it may", "it is possible", "allegedly"....on it goes. Either it was or it wasn't. This how nonsense starts. You and others now believe it. Give the facts. Not conjecture.

Exocet25fr
03-20-25, 09:27 AM
^
Confirmed by the French News: Le Monde


Etats-Unis : un chercheur français refoulé pour avoir exprimé « une opinion personnelle sur la politique menée par l’administration Trump

Le ministre de la recherche français a dit sa « préoccupation », mercredi, après cette décision des autorités américaines. Le chercheur du CNRS aurait subi un contrôle aléatoire à son arrivée, avant que son ordinateur et son téléphone ne soient fouillés.

https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2025/03/19/etats-unis-un-chercheur-francais-refoule-pour-avoir-exprime-une-opinion-personnelle-sur-la-politique-menee-par-l-administration-trump_6583618_3210.html

AVGWarhawk
03-20-25, 09:30 AM
^
Confirmed by the French News: Le Monde


Etats-Unis : un chercheur français refoulé pour avoir exprimé « une opinion personnelle sur la politique menée par l’administration Trump »

Le ministre de la recherche français a dit sa « préoccupation », mercredi, après cette décision des autorités américaines. Le chercheur du CNRS aurait subi un contrôle aléatoire à son arrivée, avant que son ordinateur et son téléphone ne soient fouillés.

https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2025/03/19/etats-unis-un-chercheur-francais-refoule-pour-avoir-exprime-une-opinion-personnelle-sur-la-politique-menee-par-l-administration-trump_6583618_3210.html

I can not read French but if the article confirms it then fine. Now, you have a person not of US citizenship who is very open about Trump/hate/etc making this person suspect. Just because this person is a scientist make little difference. Maybe what was on the phone was more than simply being pissed off. We don't know. Whatever it was, it was enough to deny access to the US. :03:

mapuc
03-20-25, 10:11 AM
I can not read French but if the article confirms it then fine. Now, you have a person not of US citizenship who is very open about Trump/hate/etc making this person suspect. Just because this person is a scientist make little difference. Maybe what was on the phone was more than simply being pissed off. We don't know. Whatever it was, it was enough to deny access to the US. :03:

I think there's more to this story than what have been told in the news.

Markus

Catfish
03-20-25, 10:12 AM
Trump stops support for program of tracking abducted ukrainian children by Russia.
And the database destroyed? Is this true?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/03/18/trump-ukraine-children-russia-war-crimes/

AVGWarhawk
03-20-25, 10:16 AM
I think there's more to this story than what have been told in the news.

Markus

I got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. :har::har::har::har:

mapuc
03-20-25, 10:25 AM
I got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. :har::har::har::har:

Hm hm-You can not sell something to me which I already own.

Markus

Buddahaid
03-20-25, 10:38 AM
Hm hm-You can not sell something to me which I already own.

Markus

Touche! 😄

August
03-20-25, 12:47 PM
Democrats’ silence is damning as leftist violence explodes

By Karol Markowicz (https://nypost.com/author/karol-markowicz/)

Published March 19, 2025, 7:33 p.m. ET


Another Donald Trump presidential term, another spate of violence going largely ignored — or even smirked at — by Democrats and their media friends.
Tesla dealerships are being (https://nypost.com/2025/03/18/us-news/tesla-vehicles-in-las-vegas-torched-in-suspected-anti-musk-arson-attack/)f (https://nypost.com/2025/03/18/us-news/tesla-vehicles-in-las-vegas-torched-in-suspected-anti-musk-arson-attack/)irebombed and shot at, while Tesla vehicles are vandalized and their owners assaulted.
Trump-supporting influencers are getting “swatted,” set up for dangerous police encounters by opponents who phone in hoax distress calls.
Relatives of Trump-aligned public figures — including the sister of US Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett and Elon Musk’s brother — are receiving bomb threats.

This cannot go on.

The multiple attacks on Teslas (https://nypost.com/2025/03/18/us-news/elon-musk-shocked-over-nationwide-tesla-vandalism-as-doge-uncovers-government-waste-some-kind-of-mental-illness/) aren’t mere vandalism. This is terrorism exactly as the dictionary describes it: “The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.”
These “vandals” are terrorizing Tesla the company, as well as Tesla owners — going so far as to dox them with an online map (https://nypost.com/2025/03/18/business/tesla-doxing-website-shows-owners-personal-details-has-molotov-cocktail-as-cursor/) — all because they don’t like the opinions of its CEO.
It’s calculated to scare (https://nypost.com/2025/03/18/us-news/tesla-vehicles-in-las-vegas-torched-in-suspected-anti-musk-arson-attack/), to terrorize, people away from driving Teslas in order to apply political pressure on Musk.

It’s “nothing short of domestic terrorism,” Attorney General Pam Bondi said Tuesday.

The Justice Department has already charged several perpetrators, she said, in cases that could carry five-year mandatory minimum sentences.
Five years is a good start — but it’s not enough. This kind of antisocial political barbarity is utterly unacceptable in a free country.
Threats of violence cannot be allowed to curtail our freedom of speech.

Nor should the extended families of public figures face threats to their lives and safety. The siblings of a Supreme Court justice or the head of DOGE did not choose a public life, and bullying them is disgusting.
Swatting, too, is on the rise, with more than a dozen incidents aimed at right-leaning media figures reported in just the last 10 days.
“This isn’t about politics,” FBI Director Kash Patel said Friday on X. “Weaponizing law enforcement against ANY American is not only morally reprehensible but also endangers lives, including those of our officers.”
Swatting isn’t just a scary inconvenience; it has had deadly consequences. Police killed a Kansas man in 2017 after someone called in a fake hostage situation at his address. The “swatter” was sentenced to 20 years in prison.
But every swatting has the potential to turn deadly — in fact, that’s largely the point. Just because swatters use technology, and law enforcement’s guns, shouldn’t give them a pass on the attempted murder of their political foes.
Meanwhile, there is no federal anti-swatting law, making it harder to prosecute.

Republicans in Congress must take action. They can reintroduce the Anti-Swatting Act, a 2015 bill that was sponsored by both Democrats and Republicans but never got a floor vote.

Can Democrats really support using our law enforcement to target political enemies?
Worst of all, much of this violence and abuse is being laughed off by people who would be weeping if the targets were their own political allies.
Jimmy Kimmel, ostensibly a late-night comedian but in truth more like an angry crank, sarcastically told his audience Tuesday, “Please don’t ever vandalize Tesla vehicles” — while looking mockingly into the camera, after a long pause, to let them know he meant the opposite.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, last seen as the great male hope of the failed Kamala Harris presidential campaign, told a crowd this week he keeps a finance app on his phone to follow Tesla and to “give me a little boost” whenever the stock declines.
“Two-twenty-five and dropping!” he exulted.

Such jeers, as well as the deafening silence from most other Democrats, are simply intolerable.

If progressive influencers and leftist leaders were on the receiving end of such horrid tactics, every Republican in the country would be made to answer for it. “This is not who we are,” right-wing media would proclaim.
And rightly so. But no such calls are coming from the Democrats and their media allies.

Donald Trump ran on a platform of law and order. The increasingly rabid reaction to his presidency calls for a serious response.

For the last five years, the violent left has run rampant (https://nypost.com/2023/03/31/beware-the-lefts-growing-embrace-of-mob-rule-protests/)with few consequences for the chaos it has sown.

Republicans in Congress, and the Trump Justice Department, should show them that ends now.

Buddahaid
03-20-25, 01:16 PM
Let's not forget Jan 6th right wing violence. Any bets on whether Trump's rhetoric on Judges leads to an attack this year on a judge, or a family member? I'm expecting it.

Dargo
03-20-25, 01:50 PM
You own a tesla car dealership and suddenly none of the vehicles are moving off the lot. What would you do? You do what always is done in bad economical times, you burn the lot. Just saying...

AVGWarhawk
03-20-25, 02:27 PM
Hm hm-You can not sell something to me which I already own.

Markus

The joke escapes you.

Touche! 😄

The joke escapes you as well.

Let's not forget Jan 6th right wing violence. Any bets on whether Trump's rhetoric on Judges leads to an attack this year on a judge, or a family member? I'm expecting it.

Well, if Pelosi is supposed to protect and handle security of these judges they are screwed. :doh:

Otto Harkaman
03-20-25, 02:31 PM
It’s Time For Congress To Stop The Judicial Sabotage Of Trump’s Agenda
A small group of Democrat activists, with the help of activist judges, are disrupting the court system because they didn’t win the election, and there is no other way for them to assert their power. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis called it “sabotage” in a social media post that calls for Congress to step in with legislation to rein in judicial resistance.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/20/its-time-for-congress-to-stop-the-judicial-sabotage-of-trumps-agenda/

AVGWarhawk
03-20-25, 02:35 PM
It’s Time For Congress To Stop The Judicial Sabotage Of Trump’s Agenda
A small group of Democrat activists, with the help of activist judges, are disrupting the court system because they didn’t win the election, and there is no other way for them to assert their power. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis called it “sabotage” in a social media post that calls for Congress to step in with legislation to rein in judicial resistance.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/20/its-time-for-congress-to-stop-the-judicial-sabotage-of-trumps-agenda/

Some of it political. Some is basis and fact. Either way everyone and their brother is filing lawsuits. Another 4 years of BS investigations, judicial reviews and postering.

Buddahaid
03-20-25, 03:59 PM
It's the Constitution working as intended and there is nothing radical about it.

Buddahaid
03-20-25, 04:01 PM
Well, if Pelosi is supposed to protect and handle security of these judges they are screwed. :doh:

Maybe Trump shouldn't try and fire up his radical base to violence again.

AVGWarhawk
03-20-25, 04:11 PM
Maybe Trump shouldn't try and fire up his radical base to violence again.

Maybe the TDS and Musk haters should stop lighting cars on fire, threats of death and generally be idiots should find something better to do . Sheesh

Buddahaid
03-20-25, 04:18 PM
They should stop breaking the law as it only helps the Trump MAGA TDS. They can still hate all they want and work to bring Musk and Trump down.

AVGWarhawk
03-20-25, 04:37 PM
They should stop breaking the law as it only helps the Trump MAGA TDS. They can still hate all they want and work to bring Musk and Trump down.

Breaking the law??? What, burning cars, threats of killing and confrontation with Tesla owners are simply disagreements? There is no justification for it. Get a grip.

Buddahaid
03-20-25, 06:41 PM
Breaking the law??? What, burning cars, threats of killing and confrontation with Tesla owners are simply disagreements? There is no justification for it. Get a grip.

Yes, that's called breaking the law. They should be prosecuted, or would you prefer being impaled on the White House lawn? You get a grip on how the justice system works.

Shearwater
03-20-25, 06:53 PM
It’s Time For Congress To Stop The Judicial Sabotage Of Trump’s Agenda
A small group of Democrat activists, with the help of activist judges, are disrupting the court system because they didn’t win the election, and there is no other way for them to assert their power. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis called it “sabotage” in a social media post that calls for Congress to step in with legislation to rein in judicial resistance.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/20/its-time-for-congress-to-stop-the-judicial-sabotage-of-trumps-agenda/

The U.S. government’s authority is intentionally separated into three branches, legislative, executive, and judicial, so no single branch becomes too powerful. Our nation was not designed for a president to put forth ideas and ask the court’s permission. Yet that is what is happening. Certain, cherry-picked judges are taking over the rule of the country, mishandling the numerous legal challenges to nearly every aspect of President Donald Trump’s agenda.

What the article seems to suggest is that it is somehow that it is undemocratic that a democratically elected president whose measures enjoy a large support in the population gets challenged in the courts, it is overreach. Yet, what is it – resistance to the current rule, or the rule of the country? The article isn’t too clear on that.

Asking the court's permission, in the articles parlance, is a given - not in advance of course, but if a decision or a law seems to violate another law, it is not only the at the judges' discretion to intervene, it is their duty. A judge can't just go like "Meh, I'ma gonna reject that law because Trump". A legal challenge has to be justified and backed with argumentsa, and can of course be subject to legal challenges itself.

Trump has a majority in Congress and good chances that SCOTUS will be more conservative-leaning in most of its decisions.
So maybe it also has to do with the way the current president goes about government. Laws are complicated. There's a reason why they get debated, revised, amended, approved or rejected all the time. It looks complicated, but guess what, it is complicated and of course it’s a frustrating process that quite often seems needlessly elaborate. Part of it is to make sure that a new law holds water and is properly vetted. And if it’s a controversial law with involving lots of debate, there is even public opinion to deal with.
And yet, he prefers to rule by executive orders rather than by trying to put his agenda into laws. In the first weeks of his term, he signed 89 executive orders (compared to the 220 in total during his first term as president). Given the majorities he enjoys, there would be no pressing need to rush things through like he does. So, there are plausibly two major reasons for why he does it:
1) He either thinks that his decisions are perfectly right and justified and just have been stalled in the past by people hostile to him, and for political reasons, or
2) he or his advisors rush things through to avoid parliamentary and public scrutiny.
3) he wants to take credit for implementing his projects himself, rather than letting Congress take it.
Make of that what you will. If a lot of decisions are taken within a very short time, don’t be surprised that a lot of decisions will get critisized.

AVGWarhawk
03-20-25, 07:16 PM
Yes, that's called breaking the law. They should be prosecuted, or would you prefer being impaled on the White House lawn? You get a grip on how the justice system works.

It worked for Vlad the Impaler. 😉

Jeff-Groves
03-20-25, 07:44 PM
or would you prefer being impaled on the White House lawn
How about in Death Valley? Don't even have to rename that place.

Reece
03-20-25, 08:00 PM
Trump’s divisiveness is getting worse, not better. He makes racist comments, appeals to racist sentiments and inflames racist passions. The rationalization that he is not, deep down in his heart, really a racist is meaningless. Trump’s continued offenses mean that a large portion of his political base is energized by racist tropes and the language of white grievance. And it means — whatever their intent — that those who play down, or excuse, or try to walk past these offenses are enablers.
Some political choices are not just stupid or crude. They represent the return of our country’s cruelest, most dangerous passion. Such racism indicts Trump. Treating racism as a typical or minor matter indicts us.
https://www.dcreport.org/2025/03/20/a-republican-calls-out-trumps-racism/

Buddahaid
03-20-25, 08:45 PM
It worked for Vlad the Impaler. 😉

And he ended up being beheaded in 1476 and his head displayed in Constantinople as a trophy. :Kaleun_Wink:

Cybermat47
03-21-25, 01:28 AM
Last I checked, Trump did not go to the website and pull down this individuals page of accomplishments. The question is, who did and why.

An employee of the Trump administration did it because he was following Trump’s directives.

AVGWarhawk
03-21-25, 07:49 AM
An employee of the Trump administration did it because he was following Trump’s directives.

The question is, how did this individual deem a medal to be provided because of DEI? Truth be told, none of this should have happened no matter the directive.

August
03-21-25, 07:51 AM
The question is, how did this individual deem a medal to be provided because of DEI? Truth be told, none of this should have happened no matter the directive.


Look up the term "Malicious Compliance".

AVGWarhawk
03-21-25, 08:05 AM
Look up the term "Malicious Compliance".

I see, however, it does not explain why this individual was targeted. Let me dig into his story.

EDIT: What bloody idiot determined this was DEI? The medal was awarded in 1970. Whoever took it down should be fired.

AVGWarhawk
03-21-25, 08:47 AM
And he ended up being beheaded in 1476 and his head displayed in Constantinople as a trophy. :Kaleun_Wink:

Now that is reality TV at its finest! :har:

Buddahaid
03-21-25, 11:41 AM
The Trump administration is very close to being in contempt.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.47.0_4.pdf

"The Court, accordingly, ORDERS that:

1. By March 21, 2025, at 10:00 a.m., Defendants shall submit a sworn declaration by a
person with direct involvement in the Cabinet-level discussions regarding invocation
of the state-secrets privilege;

2. By March 25, 2025, Defendants shall submit a declaration indicating whether or not
the Government is invoking the privilege;

3. By March 25, 2025, Defendants shall file a brief showing cause why they did not
violate the Court’s Temporary Restraining Orders by failing to return class members
removed from the United States on the two earliest planes that departed on March 15,
2025; and

4. Plaintiffs may file any response to such brief by March 31, 2025.

/s/ James E. Boasberg
JAMES E. BOASBERG
United States District Judge
Date: March 20, 2025"

AVGWarhawk
03-21-25, 11:44 AM
The Trump administration is very close to being in contempt.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.47.0_4.pdf

"The Court, accordingly, ORDERS that:

1. By March 21, 2025, at 10:00 a.m., Defendants shall submit a sworn declaration by a
person with direct involvement in the Cabinet-level discussions regarding invocation
of the state-secrets privilege;

2. By March 25, 2025, Defendants shall submit a declaration indicating whether or not
the Government is invoking the privilege;

3. By March 25, 2025, Defendants shall file a brief showing cause why they did not
violate the Court’s Temporary Restraining Orders by failing to return class members
removed from the United States on the two earliest planes that departed on March 15,
2025; and

4. Plaintiffs may file any response to such brief by March 31, 2025.

/s/ James E. Boasberg
JAMES E. BOASBERG
United States District Judge
Date: March 20, 2025"

The timeline is nothing short of hilarious. The government never moves this fast with anything.

Buddahaid
03-21-25, 11:53 AM
It's just the latest ruling after the administration has already stalled. It's not a joke.

AVGWarhawk
03-21-25, 11:54 AM
It's just the latest ruling after the administration has already stalled. It's not a joke.

It will be ignored.

Buddahaid
03-21-25, 12:12 PM
It will be ignored.

And there you agree with the lawlessness an unconstitutionality of this administration.

AVGWarhawk
03-21-25, 12:15 PM
And there you agree with the lawlessness an unconstitutionality of this administration.

My statement does not demonstrate I agree/disagree with the lawlessness. :up:

VipertheSniper
03-21-25, 12:24 PM
to those who said no due process for trespassers under the Aliens Enemy Act and the position of the DOJ that these deportation cases are not up for review, the courts have the power to review for the determination if a subject falls under the act or not:

https://law.lclark.edu/live/files/9549-lcb114art5vladekpdf

the review is from 2007, but I'm pretty sure a law professor wouldn't link to this if it weren't still applicable today

Look up the term "Malicious Compliance".
Good on them, if it was. Bringing the stink right up to the surface.

Buddahaid
03-21-25, 12:36 PM
My statement does not demonstrate I agree/disagree with the lawlessness. :up:

Yeah, I meant that more as a question.:salute:

AVGWarhawk
03-21-25, 12:50 PM
Yeah, I meant that more as a question.:salute:

The administration does need to stop and let the judicial wing do their job. Problem is....the judicial wing drags on for months and months...it is planned that way. Nothing gets done. Do you see a pattern here? This is the reason for a rush of executive orders. Just do it and let the smoke clear before examining the ins and outs.

MaDef
03-21-25, 01:30 PM
https://www.dcreport.org/2025/03/20/a-republican-calls-out-trumps-racism/

Nowhere in that article could I find an example of any racist remarks (or any remarks) by Trump, It's all based on the feelings of the writer.

You can do better.

VipertheSniper
03-21-25, 01:57 PM
The administration does need to stop and let the judicial wing do their job. Problem is....the judicial wing drags on for months and months...it is planned that way. Nothing gets done. Do you see a pattern here? This is the reason for a rush of executive orders. Just do it and let the smoke clear before examining the ins and outs.

You really should look into how the DOJ is arguing their cases, inane argument after inane argument, holding up the courts. That they haven't been held in contempt yet, is really a testament to the judges seemingly unending patience.

vienna
03-21-25, 02:56 PM
...yeah...like a Hoover vacuum! :O:

...well. Trump really does suck...




>O>

Catfish
03-21-25, 03:11 PM
The timeline is nothing short of hilarious. The government never moves this fast with anything.
They try to catch up with Trump intentionally flooding the courts so they can't do their job properly. Tactics.

Cybermat47
03-21-25, 05:25 PM
What bloody idiot determined this was DEI? The medal was awarded in 1970. Whoever took it down should be fired.

My understanding is that the GOP’s leadership considers any recognition, promotion, hiring, etc. of someone from a minority group to be ‘DEI’. Unless they support the GOP, of course.

u crank
03-21-25, 05:45 PM
My understanding is that the GOP’s leadership considers any recognition, promotion, hiring, etc. of someone from a minority group to be ‘DEI’. Unless they support the GOP, of course.

Sorry but I would say that your understanding is probably wrong.

Cybermat47
03-21-25, 06:17 PM
For Veterans Fired by Trump, the Sense of Betrayal Runs Deep

“I feel very betrayed. All I’ve done my whole life since getting out of high school was serve this country,” says Bushno, 40, who worked in the Shawnee National Forest in Illinois. “I feel like, who's fighting for me, you know?”

The impact of the Trump Administration's job cuts has reverberated across the federal workforce, where veterans make up nearly 30 percent of civilian employees. The Department of Veterans Affairs has not been spared, with over 1,000 employees—including staff at the Veterans Crisis Line—dismissed. While some have since been rehired, many remain in administrative limbo, left wondering whether they will ever be reinstated.

“I did not put my life on the line for some tech bro billionaire from South Africa to come in here and try to destroy our country,”

Tony Ruiz, a veteran from Orange County, Calif., was proud to be hired by the Department of Veterans Affairs last year as a Veteran Service Representative. Then he was fired last month, 10 days before his probation period was set to end. He says he was especially shocked to see the phrase “unacceptable performance” in his termination letter, after becoming the first employee in his division to win an employee of the quarter award in August. The firing left Ruiz feeling abandoned: “I feel like I got a big F-you from the American people, and I feel betrayed.”

Unlike other probationary employees, Ruiz has not been offered reinstatement and believes it’s because he failed the Administration’s unofficial “loyalty test.” “As an American soldier, as a veteran, we value the oath. And so for me, I didn't take an oath to a king, or take an oath to the Administration.”

https://time.com/7270148/trump-veterans-va-fired/

Buddahaid
03-21-25, 07:01 PM
Trump is now claiming he never signed his own invocation of the Alien Enemies Act. I guess he never signed the Jan 6th pardons too....:doh: The guys a walking bag of lies.

Skybird
03-21-25, 07:52 PM
^ Or his brain is bidenizing. Followers should not be surprised that their idol is showing signs of senility. He's 78. :D And he is known to have loved junk food. Thats like getting daily doses of concentrated Biden intravenously.

Shearwater
03-21-25, 08:04 PM
Trump is now claiming he never signed his own invocation of the Alien Enemies Act. I guess he never signed the Jan 6th pardons too....:doh: The guys a walking bag of lies.

He's right though! Technically speaking, it was the autopen.

Buddahaid
03-21-25, 08:44 PM
He's right though! Technically speaking, it was the autopen.

Likely but that's been used for a long time and never brought into question before. It doesn't fly.

August
03-21-25, 09:33 PM
It doesn't fly.

Dunno about that. Biden had repeatedly declared that he would not pardon those people, and then seconds before the end of his term he suddenly signs a spate of them with an auto pen. I'd like to see some verification from Biden himself that he did indeed sign those pardons or at least some witnesses to the signings. Right now we have neither.

Given Bidens well publicized mental infirmities and the Democrats extensive coverups it's not difficult to believe that whoever was running old Joe the last couple of years of his presidency might have created them on their own.

Buddahaid
03-21-25, 10:49 PM
Dunno about that…

I do. It’s like arguing you didn’t eat the food because you have dentures.

August
03-21-25, 11:02 PM
I do. It’s like arguing you didn’t eat the food because you have dentures.


No it's more like illegally forging the Presidents signature on an official document. No ridiculous and inaccurate analogies are needed.

Otto Harkaman
03-21-25, 11:12 PM
There are indeed versions of folktales in which a clever or audacious servant uses the king’s or emperor’s seal to sign documents—often with unexpected or ironic consequences. These stories appear in various cultures and are part of a broader tradition where symbols of royal authority (like the seal) become the centerpiece for a tale of wit, mischief, or a moral lesson about power and trust.

Key Elements of Such Tales

Cunning and Audacity: In these stories, the servant’s bold act of using the seal without permission is typically portrayed as a mix of cleverness and recklessness. The act may initially be shown as humorous or ingenious.
Consequences and Moral Lessons: Often, the narrative turns on the idea that misusing a symbol of authority leads either to humorous comeuppance or a deeper moral about the abuse of power and the responsibilities that come with trust.
Cultural Variations: While details vary by region—whether in Middle Eastern, South Asian, or European oral traditions—the core idea remains the same: a subordinate uses a symbol of power (the royal seal) to alter documents or make decisions, thus challenging the proper order.

Variants in Folklore

Different cultures have their own versions of the tale. In some accounts, the servant’s actions expose corruption or hypocrisy within the court, while in others the incident becomes a cautionary tale about overstepping one’s bounds. The ambiguity of whether the servant’s cleverness is ultimately rewarded or punished often leaves the story open to interpretation, inviting reflections on authority, legitimacy, and the risks of misusing power.
While there isn’t one single “official” version of this tale, its recurrence in folklore underlines a common human fascination with the inversion of power roles—where the lowly servant momentarily upends the established order using nothing more than a royal seal.

Gorpet
03-22-25, 12:08 AM
There are indeed versions of folktales in which a clever or audacious servant uses the king’s or emperor’s seal to sign documents—often with unexpected or ironic consequences. These stories appear in various cultures and are part of a broader tradition where symbols of royal authority (like the seal) become the centerpiece for a tale of wit, mischief, or a moral lesson about power and trust.

Key Elements of Such Tales

Cunning and Audacity: In these stories, the servant’s bold act of using the seal without permission is typically portrayed as a mix of cleverness and recklessness. The act may initially be shown as humorous or ingenious.
Consequences and Moral Lessons: Often, the narrative turns on the idea that misusing a symbol of authority leads either to humorous comeuppance or a deeper moral about the abuse of power and the responsibilities that come with trust.
Cultural Variations: While details vary by region—whether in Middle Eastern, South Asian, or European oral traditions—the core idea remains the same: a subordinate uses a symbol of power (the royal seal) to alter documents or make decisions, thus challenging the proper order.

Variants in Folklore

Different cultures have their own versions of the tale. In some accounts, the servant’s actions expose corruption or hypocrisy within the court, while in others the incident becomes a cautionary tale about overstepping one’s bounds. The ambiguity of whether the servant’s cleverness is ultimately rewarded or punished often leaves the story open to interpretation, inviting reflections on authority, legitimacy, and the risks of misusing power.
While there isn’t one single “official” version of this tale, its recurrence in folklore underlines a common human fascination with the inversion of power roles—where the lowly servant momentarily upends the established order using nothing more than a royal seal.

And,I overstepped every bound and ambiguity, is a wonderful word.

Buddahaid
03-22-25, 12:11 AM
No it's more like illegally forging the Presidents signature on an official document. No ridiculous and inaccurate analogies are needed.

Not buying it. That’s just another weak conspiracy theory that relies heavily on too many people keeping quiet.

Gorpet
03-22-25, 12:22 AM
Not buying it. That’s just another weak conspiracy theory that relies heavily on too many people keeping quiet.

Exactly,..And if people didn't keep quiet. How could we exist ?

August
03-22-25, 12:40 AM
Not buying it. That’s just another weak conspiracy theory that relies heavily on too many people keeping quiet.

Of course you wouldn't buy it. Democrats steadfastly claimed that increasingly frequent signs of Bidens senility and frailty were all just unfounded politically driven conspiracy theories until he blew the debate so bad that it couldn't be concealed any longer and the party forced him to step aside.

Biden has repeatedly said he wouldn't pardon certain people that he subsequently pardoned, many in the last few minutes of his presidency. As far as I know he has not publicly acknowledged it let alone explained
his abrupt change of heart. He could easily put this to rest by issuing a short statement but so far he hasn't. Why? I think because the last minute pardons were actually issued and signed by his staff without his knowledge.

Catfish
03-22-25, 02:54 AM
Biden has either not signed them, or he has, or he probably thinks that he does not have to react to untenable accusations and conspiracy theories, thus showing some common sense and dignity.
Trump and his followers would probably not understand such a notion. Or get furious because they are being "ignored".

Dargo
03-22-25, 06:03 AM
Sell our allies toned down jets, by about 10%, because maybe someday they are not our allies.Yeah you just 'toned down' sales about 100%, moron.

Buddahaid
03-22-25, 11:35 AM
It will be ignored.

It was not ignored. The administration sent an unprepared junior lawyer as a cardboard standee to take the heat. It's now bumped to the 25th deadlines where it's fairly likely contempt of court will be found, and if so, it cracks open the door for impeachment. Not that I expect impeachment hearings, but the legal foundation will be there.

August
03-22-25, 12:29 PM
Biden has either not signed them, or he has, or he probably thinks that he does not have to react to untenable accusations and conspiracy theories, thus showing some common sense and dignity.
Trump and his followers would probably not understand such a notion. Or get furious because they are being "ignored".

Is that theory you're going with? :roll: The Democrats who have never ever missed a chance to stick it to their arch enemy Trump, would be above proving that he is lying because of dignity and common sense?

Is there anything bad about Trump that you don't need to believe regardless of how ridiculous it sounds?

Buddahaid
03-22-25, 12:49 PM
He will go down in history as the most corrupt POTUS ever.:Kaleun_Cheers:

Catfish
03-22-25, 02:10 PM
Is that theory you're going with? :roll: The Democrats who have never ever missed a chance to stick it to their arch enemy Trump, would be above proving that he is lying because of dignity and common sense?

Is there anything bad about Trump that you don't need to believe regardless of how ridiculous it sounds?
First Trump the notorious liar accuses Biden of wrongdoing without presenting evidence, just so, like all that suddenly flashes up in his mind and just spurting out anything wild that just crosses his mind.
Then he and you(?!) wait for some reaction that gets Trump in the media again.
Sometimes it is better to ignore the bullsh..
Besides Trump is the antithesis to common sense.

mapuc
03-22-25, 05:04 PM
Beware of this day-April 2nd

- April 2nd is Liberation Day in the USA!!! FOR DECADES we have been ripped off and mistreated by every nation in the world - both friends and enemies, he writes in the post.

- Now it's finally time for the United States to get some of that MONEY and RESPECT BACK. GOD BLESS THE USA!!!, the president continues.

https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/penge/varmer-op-til-gengaeldelsesdag-vi-er-blevet-flaaet-og-mishandlet/10565881?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

Buddahaid
03-22-25, 05:20 PM
Expulsion Day from world leadership. I’ll be lamenting.

mapuc
03-22-25, 05:48 PM
Expulsion Day from world leadership. I’ll be lamenting.

I guess there's a lot of speculation among the world leaders and expert around what Trump is planning to do on this day April 2nd.

Markus

Buddahaid
03-22-25, 06:52 PM
MAGA loses a seat in Congress as Janelle Bynum defeated the MAGA candidate Lori Chavez-DeRemer.

August
03-22-25, 07:42 PM
First Trump the notorious liar accuses Biden of wrongdoing without presenting evidence, just so, like all that suddenly flashes up in his mind and just spurting out anything wild that just crosses his mind.
Then he and you(?!) wait for some reaction that gets Trump in the media again.
Sometimes it is better to ignore the bullsh..
Besides Trump is the antithesis to common sense.


Convenient. :03:

Buddahaid
03-22-25, 10:49 PM
The Defendents (US) are granted a two day stay to get their arguments in order for an appeal, but they will lose the appeal, and the block will be in place. It will likely be rejected by the SCOTUS based on several previous related cases before the SCOTUS that ruled for the Plaintiffs.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.276845/gov.uscourts.dcd.276845.89.0_1.pdf

"THE COURT: Is saying that transgender people or people with
gender dysphoria, [that] their inherent identity is inconsistent with a
commitment to an honorable, truthful, and disciplined lifestyle, is
that demeaning to them?

DEFENSE COUNSEL: I don’t have a characterization for that,
Your Honor.

THE COURT: Okay. And if I asked you about all the other words
in [the Military Ban], with respect to the characterization of
transgender people or people with gender dysphoria, you would
have the same answer?

DEFENSE COUNSEL: Yes, Your Honor.

THE COURT: There’s nothing [supporting these assertions] in the
studies; right?

DEFENSE COUNSEL: That says those same things, no, Your
Honor, not that I know of.

THE COURT: [No study] says anything close to those things;
correct?

DEFENSE COUNSEL: Not that I know of, Your Honor."

Skybird
03-24-25, 03:57 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

"Lets make sure our messaging is tight there." :har:

Buddahaid
03-24-25, 04:06 PM
Looks like Trump guitars are made in China. MAGA!
https://youtu.be/BujD9TmcFBo

Catfish
03-24-25, 04:20 PM
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/
"Lets make sure our messaging is tight there." :har:
Using an ordinary messenger service, cute. Next time they could just post all secretive stuff on Facebook :D

Buddahaid
03-24-25, 05:54 PM
Using an ordinary messenger service, cute. Next time they could just post all secretive stuff on Facebook :D

Well, MAGA knows how to one up people, like Hillary Clinton...:har:

Otto Harkaman
03-24-25, 11:19 PM
https://youtu.be/VZRLrnpIVM0?si=_pvoxfWEJ4hZqnIs

Catfish
03-25-25, 12:35 AM
I guess I have to revise my first impression of 'Victor Davis Hanson'. What a moron.

u crank
03-25-25, 02:02 AM
I guess I have to revise my first impression of 'Victor Davis Hanson'. What a moron.

I have followed Hanson for years. My guess is that you think he is a moron because you don't agree with him. Can you explain why? What did he say that you think is not true?

Eichhörnchen
03-25-25, 05:31 AM
Using an ordinary messenger service, cute. Next time they could just post all secretive stuff on Facebook :D

We've got tighter security in the Squirrel Club https://i.imgur.com/g25Iw8g.jpeg

Skybird
03-25-25, 10:32 AM
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/europa-hass-und-vance-als-warner-6-lehren-aus-dem-gruppenchat-skandal_860b289b-bc29-42a6-b135-95e82bcf6863.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


Which brings us to the hatred of Europe: The leak not only reveals the clumsy handling of sensitive and secret information. It also further illustrates what the Trump administration thinks of Europe.

“I just hate to bail out Europe again,” is a statement that highlights how deeply rooted the antipathy towards Europe is in Trump’s administration.

Hegseth ultimately agreed with Vance and underscored his disdain for Europe's security policy being dragged along by the US. "I share your disgust for Europe's parasitism. It's pathetic," he clarified.
The Houthis in Yemen - here supporters of the militia at a demonstration against Israel and the USA in Sanaa, 2024

Rather than seeing the US as part of an alliance, the chat participants seem to view the US as a completely independent superpower capable of exploiting other states. The Trump administration has repeatedly argued that America's European allies benefit economically from the US Navy's protection of international sea lanes.

The contemptuous style of communication in the chat makes clear the future attitude the US government will take toward its long-standing allies in Europe. Europe is portrayed as a "parasite."

Anyone who initially thought this was mere election campaign polemic will be proven wrong once again when reading the chat excerpts: the hatred of Europe is real.


And thats probably where European assessment of the Trump administration still errs the most. That the American dispise for Europe is not just a showact, but indeed real.



And the US even has a point there when it accuses Europe of parasitism regarding its lacking defense. As Europe currently finds out at its own cost. I just still doubt that the consequences really have already fully dawned on everybody, and how urgent and tight the time window is.

Dargo
03-25-25, 11:44 AM
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/europa-hass-und-vance-als-warner-6-lehren-aus-dem-gruppenchat-skandal_860b289b-bc29-42a6-b135-95e82bcf6863.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp





And thats probably where European assessment of the Trump administration still errs the most. That the American dispise for Europe is not just a showact, but indeed real.



And the US even has a point there when it accuses Europe of parasitism regarding its lacking defense. As Europe currently finds out at its own cost. I just still doubt that the consequences really have already fully dawned on everybody, and how urgent and tight the time window is.This is not new read Project 2025.

Catfish
03-25-25, 12:08 PM
Also it was already Obama who said that Europe had to raise its defense budgets. England was busy with brexit and Germany had been held down so long that the pure idea of a war was a no-go, also as in a lot of other ways we thought if we don'start a war, nobody will.
Wishful thinking, blindness or whatever.
Even during the last elections parties talked about anything but the russian elephant in the room.

re ucrank ok so you have more insight into this Hanson guy, but this last video is full of imho wrong statements. He probably has the data but presents them with a 180 degree turn, as conclusions.
Will get to this, but not enough time right now.

August
03-25-25, 12:23 PM
This is not new read Project 2025.


:) "Not new = Project 2025.

VipertheSniper
03-25-25, 12:54 PM
I guess I have to revise my first impression of 'Victor Davis Hanson'. What a moron.

I guess you didn't have a look at the rest of the channel the first time around. I was tempted to post then: Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Maybe don't try to deny people the right to due process, or other rights guaranteed by the constitution and you wouldn't have to deal with all those lawsuits.

The comments under the video are something else. Calling for the administration to ignore court orders. Separation of Powers anyone?
They all clamor for a fascist state, where the only rights you have are those granted by the dear leader or with a more generous reading the just have no idea of the implications, as long as the immigrants are thrown out, everything goes. If the administration ignores court orders when it comes to immigration, they might as well ignore any court order. Do they really think ignoring court orders is gonna stop at immigration? If this administration thinks they can get away with that, they will just ignore the courts altogether, even the SCOTUS if it's convenient for them.

u crank
03-25-25, 12:55 PM
re ucrank ok so you have more insight into this Hanson guy, but this last video is full of imho wrong statements. He probably has the data but presents them with a 180 degree turn, as conclusions.
Will get to this, but not enough time right now.

:salute: