US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Buddahaid]

Georgia RICO hearing.
https://www.youtube.com/live/OAus1sgaIkI?si=sx_rPPJLXLfMIq94

[Buddahaid]

Trump ordered to pay $362,000.00 in attorney fees to The NY Times for a frivolous lawsuit that was dismissed.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24359048-trump-fee-decision

[em2nought]

The Indian guy(Vichyssoise?) sounded really good on Gutfeld! last night. If he walks the walk that he talks I could see voting for him. I'm starting to feel that in no way is the totally corrupt establishment, totally corrupt democrat party, and totally corrupt deep state ever going to let Trump in again. I wouldn't be surprised if a nuke went errant and landed on Mar-a-lago if it absolutely "had" to. :har:

Oops, forgot to mention the totally corrupt mainstream media as well

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dvvy1mR_5E

[Buddahaid]

Here's a letter from Hunter Biden’s legal team to James Comer informing Comer and the GOP why the subpoenas he served were legally defective on their face.

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/letter-from-a-lowell-to-chairmen-comer-and-jordan-hunter-biden-contempt-subpoenas-january-12-2024.pdf

And the response.
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2024-01-14-jdj-jc-to-lowell-re-new-subpoena-for-hb.pdf

[Buddahaid]

The Hunter Biden contempt hearing.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-house-oversight-hearing-on-holding-hunter-biden-in-contempt-of-congress

No matter what the Republicans say, Hunter has agreed to testify under oath in public hearings and the Twitter Party insists on secret hearings. I don't care how righteous the twitter party want to whine, they remain afraid of public hearings.

[em2nought]

Thinking the same, I'll have to look up that episode of Gutfeld

He was actually on two episodes in a row. Maybe the two best episodes of Gutfeld! ever.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbCRc-Babc4

[mapuc]

According to the Danish article this has created a stir in the political USA

Bosses in the Biden admin are pressed over young staffers’ anonymous letters

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/10/white-house-biden-staffers-00134688

Markus

[August]

Apparently, according to you, all those people must be innocent, even the ones that have pled guilty. I find it difficult to understand how someone like you, who swore an oath to the Constitution, can so easily be turned against it.


I haven't turned against the Constitution nor did the Jan 6th folks who got railroaded by the government, even the ones who the government bullied into pleading guilty to trespassing and a bunch of other charges that had nothing to do with the democrats fake insurrection pravda.

[em2nought]

According to the Danish article this has created a stir in the political USA



https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/10/white-house-biden-staffers-00134688

Markus

Sounds like a bunch of "deep state" minded people to me. We don't "work" for the American people, we do whatever "we" want. :har:

[Onkel Neal]

oh my god, here we go again :k_confused:

[Skybird]

If after Iowa European governments still do not in all seriousness ready themselves for a second term by Trump from next year on, then nothing will ever wake them up anymore.

Personally, I link just one hope with a second term by him: that he indeed cancels the existing structures within NATO as far as he can as POTUS (I understand that his power to do so is not without obstructions from Congress or Senate), so that European states will be forced to either throw themselves down before Russia - or start to very heavily invest into their defence capabilities, and ASAP. The socialist kindergarden party with its endless throwing money out of the window and hysterical Green Deal self-mutilation must be brought to an end.

And no, i have not turned into a Trump fan. But then i am also not a fan of the outlook that Biden prevails. As I see it, the upcoming choice Americans have to make is a total and complete mess and will destroy the political culture and system in the US even further. The biggest winner of it will be even further increasing polarization and a widening of the trenches.

Best would be if both old men would be struck down by lightning. And major parts of their entourage with them.

[Jimbuna]

^ I said a bit along similar lines earlier.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2898829&postcount=7247

[mapuc]

Why and/or what....

You don't treat an ongoing headache with painkiller, no you examine the patient to why s/he has it and/or what cause it.

The same goes for the ongoing election in USA
People is attacking Trump and the people who placed their vote on him
No one have asked the question why did a majority put they vote on him and/or what made people wanna choose him again.

Markus

[em2nought]

I hear that train a comin' :yeah:

Somebody is going to try to make "Sleepy Joe's Neckties" out of the rails by any means necessary with all the power of the Federal Gov't and Mainstream Media of course. grrrrr

[Skybird]

https://www-andreas--unterberger-at.translate.goog/2024/01/von-boeing-bis-zur-eu-wenn-unternehmen-woke-werden-mssenij/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


This puts white and Asian men without sexual conspicuousness and without mental or physical disabilities at a massive disadvantage. Logically, it is not possible to favor any group without simultaneously disadvantaging someone else.
(...)
In any case, more than two thirds of the 500 most important US companies now have "diversity officers", who are in reality only there to bring more blacks and other "minorities" into the company and into leading positions. Around 40 percent of companies have even set quantitative targets to promote the proportion of blacks and, accordingly, to reduce the proportion of whites and East Asians (who are always very successful in their careers).

However, it is becoming increasingly clear that the main purpose of an industrial company is not to promote the proportion of such groups, but to manufacture a product to the highest possible quality, i.e. with safety in mind, in line with the needs of the market. And for this you primarily need the best and most committed people. And if you neglect them, they will simply change employers or no longer make the effort.
(...)
This now hugely swollen anti-DEI, anti-woke, anti-political correctness, anti-black "anti-racism" racism movement also probably explains much better than anything else the clear trend towards the US Republicans and their most radical representative, i.e. Donald Trump. Incidentally, both are also supported by the majority of moderate Black Americans, who have suffered the most from the "anti-racism" riots.

[mapuc]

Some thoughts

If he wins and if he does as many say he will then the abbr. USA will mean
U Stand Alone-Europe

Markus

[em2nought]

The dims are gonna have no other choice than to trot out the big dog. The one who wears the pants in the familia. I give you Michael! :D

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/55/05/77/11821043/3/1200x0.jpg

[Dargo]

Europe will not cease to exist and what trump achieved last time had no effect on Europe he is only in for 4 years can only do what he's done last time by decree will not get laws passed by the house, so all his decrees will be gone with the next president. If the seats in congress or house are not in favour to a president, his policy only last his period of his time in office.

[Jimbuna]

It wouldn't take four years to kickstart a civil war or cause/create irreparable western alliance relations.

[Dargo]

If the US wants to vote for a president that want to create a civil war, it will create a war between the riches states against the poorer ones good luck for him if the US wants to endanger their own security China will be pleased.

[Reece]

What are you babbling about :huh:

Yes his posts are usually very good, but can't get the drift with that one! :hmmm:

[Jeff-Groves]

The Civil War has already started in the USA.
We just ain't brought out the Guns as yet.
At lest not in the back waters of the USA.
Can't say the same for the Big Cities.
When the people come out to our area with thier additudes?
Then you'll see the Guns come out and make the Ukraine look like a fun shoot!

[Buddahaid]

My guess is it’s a reference to Trump’s base being strongest in the poorest states.

[Buddahaid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yftTlYccmGY

[Buddahaid]

Just reflecting, I'm simply floored at how much of Trump's legal pains are self-inflicted.

Point in case, the current E. Jean Carroll damages lawsuit would likely never have happened if Trump just shut up and accepted the previous settlement for $5,000,000.00 last May in 2023. I think it was May.

This is a civil lawsuit, and the verdict is already decided by stare decisis with only damages to be decided by jury. Trump is acting like a baby throwing food off his highchair and the jury will crucify him.

Also, Alina Habba is no help since she doesn't know how to try a case in federal court and is not "faking" smart as she recently said she could do in an interview. The whole business is like watching "Karen" videos on YouTube.

[Skybird]

Just reflecting, I'm simply floored at how much of Trump's legal pains are self-inflicted.

Point in case, the current E. Jean Carroll damages lawsuit would likely never have happened if Trump just shut up and accepted the previous settlement for $5,000,000.00 last May in 2023. I think it was May.

This is a civil lawsuit, and the verdict is already decided by stare decisis with only damages to be decided by jury. Trump is acting like a baby throwing food off his highchair and the jury will crucify him.

Its explained by his personality disorder. Narcissistic and/or antisocial personality structures must have things their way, and if the other does not comply all the time, they immediately snap, lose inhibitions, lose self control. Also, it serves his campaign strategy to behave like this. His fans are so lost themselves that they do not realise it as sick, but celebrate him for it.

In a way its saddening. You shouldn't encourage the sick in his delusion, but that's exactly what the mob has done with Trump. It reinforced his delusions of grandeur, which in turn increased his appeal to the mob, which further reinforced him, making him even more delusional and godlike in his perception. Its a runaway-train, and there is no rescue anymore. Many will sooner or later either suffer a mental crash landing that will shake them to their existential bones, or will make them turning ever more sectarian and fanatical in a bid to avoid the first. Which means it raises the stakes, making these people ever more uncompromising and dangerous.

Really, its a psychological runaway train.

And a lesson in pendulum physics. We have seen decades of leftist extremism ideologically haunting the West and seriously damaging it and turning into state reason. Wokism and political correctness is the hate on the West from ultraliberal roots inside the West, it is self-hate that eats up country and culture form inside, and that takes place throuhout Europe, and the US as well. Trump is not the cause of all this, his rise and triumph is a symptom of a deeply sick society. Both indicate the degeneration of a falling civilization, an eroding culture.

[em2nought]

The best defense is a good "offense" taken literally. :D I'm sure President Trump has a bit of PTSD he's been under constant barrage for so long with some really stupid made up crap.

I wouldn't touch that chick so..... Same thing with the chick with the baby voice.... ...and I'm a slut. :har:

[Reece]

Are you? I never knew that! :hmmm:

[em2nought]

Are you? I never knew that! :hmmm:

Afraid so, but I do have standards. Those two are below them. :D AOC is kinda hot though, especially when dancing on that rooftop. :03:

[Buddahaid]

SCOTUS hearing over the 14th Amendment Section 3 issue for Trump is scheduled for February 8th.

Here is a new brief filed by Trump.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-719/298125/20240118171750343_Trump%20v%20Anderson%20Petitione r%20Brief%20on%20the%20Merits.pdf

The arguments are the same position that Trump is not an Officer while holding the Office of the President, Trump was not part of the J6 insurrection, riot, peaceful school field trip, whatever, and that he didn't take an oath to support the Constitution even though he took an oath to "preserve, protect, and defend" it.

Now we wait for the opposing brief.

[Jimbuna]

Trump mocks Nikki Haley's first name. It's his latest example of attacking rivals based on race

ATLANTA (AP) — Donald Trump used his social media platform Friday to mock Nikki Haley 's birth name, the latest example of the former president keying on race and ethnicity to attack people of color, especially his political rivals.

In a post on his Truth Social account, Trump repeatedly referred to Haley, the daughter of immigrants from India, as “Nimbra.” Haley, the former South Carolina governor, was born in Bamberg, South Carolina, as Nimarata Nikki Randhawa. She has always gone by her middle name, “Nikki.” She took the surname “Haley” upon her marriage in 1996.

Trump, himself the son, grandson and twice the husband of immigrants, called Haley “Nimbra” three times in the post and said she “doesn't have what it takes.”
The attack comes four days before the New Hampshire primary, in which Haley is trying to establish herself as the only viable Trump alternative in the Republicans' 2024 nominating contest.

Trump's post was an escalation of recent attacks in which he referenced Haley's given first name — though he's misspelled it “Nimrada” — and falsely asserted she is ineligible for the presidency because her parents were not U.S. citizens when she was born in 1972.

The attacks echo Trump's “birther” rhetoric against President Barack Obama. Trump spent years pushing the conspiracy theory that the nation's first Black president was born in Kenya and not a “natural born” U.S. citizen as required by the Constitution. That effort was part of Trump's rise among Republicans' most culturally conservative base ahead of his 2016 election that surprised much of the U.S. political establishment.

Haley has dismissed Trump's latest attacks as proof that she threatens his bid for a third consecutive nomination.

“I’ll let people decide what he means by his attacks,” Haley told reporters in New Hampshire on Friday when asked about Trump’s false assertions that her heritage disqualifies her from the Oval Office. “What we know is, look, he’s clearly insecure if he goes and does these temper tantrums, if he’s spending millions of dollars on TV. He’s insecure, he knows that something’s wrong.”

Trump’s campaign did not reply to an inquiry about his comments.

Since Monday's Iowa caucuses — which Trump won by 30 points over Ron DeSantis, who placed second — Haley has aimed to portray the rest of the GOP primary battle as a two-way race between Trump and herself despite her narrow third-place finish. Haley's campaign is aiming for a stronger showing in New Hampshire, hoping for a springboard into her home state South Carolina, which holds the South's first presidential primary next month.

For his part, Trump bounces between declarations that the nominating fight is already effectively over and blasting Haley as if the two are indeed locked in a tight contest. Trump still criticizes his other remaining rival, DeSantis, but his preferred pejoratives for the Florida governor, “Ron DeSanctimonious” or “Ron DeSanctus,” have nothing to do with race or ethnicity. DeSantis is white.

Trump’s focus on Haley's name comes as far-right online forums have for months been littered with mentions of her given name alongside racist commentary and false “birther” claims. Haley's name and family background also have become talking points on the left. Some widely circulating social media posts have called her a hypocrite for saying America was “never a racist country” when she likely experienced racism herself.

Pastor Darrell Scott, a Black man who has led a diversity coalition for Trump’s previous campaigns, defended the former president's latest attacks as “slings and arrows” that come in election season.

“You have to dissect politics as politics. It’s not personal,” said Scott. “He’s not intending to demean her or degrade her in any way. He’s just doing that to garner votes.”

Scott said Trump “has a compassionate side that most people don't see” and defended his aggressive approach as a “goose-and-gander situation” for a public figure constantly “under attack for everything.”

Tara Setmayer, senior adviser to the Lincoln Project group that opposes Trump from within the conservative movement, agreed that Trump’s rhetoric works in a Republican primary. But she said that’s a damning reality for the party and does not excuse his behavior.

“These are the rantings of an incredibly, almost pathetically insecure man who has demonstrated over his entire career his racism and bigotry,” said Setmayer, who is multiracial and calls herself a former Republican and now a conservative independent. “Why would anyone expect it to be any different now, when an entire political party has enabled this level of morally questionable behavior?”

Amid the fallout Friday, Trump won the endorsement of South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, the Senate’s only Black Republican and formerly a presidential candidate himself. Haley appointed Scott to the Senate in 2012, during her first term as governor.

Trump has a long history of using race, ethnicity and immigrant heritage as a cudgel.

For years, he has referred to Obama as “Barack Hussein Obama,” putting an obvious emphasis on the 44th president's middle name. Obama was the son of a white American mother and a Black father from Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, though Trump spent years asserting Obama had manufactured the story and a birth certificate to support it. Trump eventually admitted his claims were false but then, during the 2016 general election, said he did so only to “get on with the campaign.”

When David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader, encouraged Republican primary voters to back Trump in 2016, Trump responded in a CNN interview that he knew “nothing about David Duke, I know nothing about white supremacists.”

Trump is also among many Republicans who deliberately mispronounce Vice President Kamala Harris's name. Rather than the correct “KA'-ma-la,” Trump sometimes says, “Ka-MAH-la.” Harris, who is of Indian and Jamaican descent, is the first woman to become vice president and the third non-white person as either president or vice president, following Obama and Charles Curtis, Herbert Hoover's vice president who had Native American ancestry.

Leading up to Trump’s 2017 inauguration, civil rights icon John Lewis, then a Black congressman from Georgia, said he would not attend Trump’s inauguration because he considered him an illegitimate president. Trump reacted by blasting Lewis’s Atlanta-based district as being in “horrible shape and falling apart (not to mention crime infested).” The district includes downtown Atlanta, Coca-Cola’s world headquarters, the Georgia Institute of Technology and principal sites of the 1996 Olympic Games, among other attributes.

During his presidency, Trump questioned during a meeting with lawmakers why the U.S. would accept immigrants from Haiti and “****hole countries” across Africa instead of countries like Norway. He did not explicitly mention race but the White House followed disclosure of his comments with a statement explaining that Trump supported granting access to the U.S. for “those who can contribute to our society.”

He also has said that four congresswomen of color should go back to the “broken and crime infested” countries they came from, ignoring the fact that all of the women are American citizens and three were born in the U.S.

Trump's mother was born Mary Anne MacLeod in Scotland and came to the United States between the two world wars. His paternal grandfather, Frederick Trump, was a Barvarian-born immigrant from Germany in the 1880s. Trump's first wife, Ivana Zelníčková before their marriage, was born in what is now the Czech Republic. His third wife, former first lady Melania Trump, was born Melanija Knavs in what is now Slovenia. That means four of Trump's five children also are children of immigrants.

Haley frames her family's story as proof that the U.S. “is not a racist country.” She sometimes highlights her role in taking down the Confederate battle flag from South Carolina statehouse grounds after a racist massacre in her state — though she had sidestepped requests to remove the banner earlier in her term. And Haley has for years navigated Trump's penchant for racist rhetoric.

“I will not stop until we fight a man that chooses not to disavow the KKK,” Haley said during the 2016 primary campaign after she had endorsed Florida Sen. Marco Rubio over Trump. “That is not a part of our party; that is not who we want as president.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/trump-mocks-nikki-haley-s-first-name-it-s-his-latest-example-of-attacking-rivals-based-on-race/ar-BB1gXENW?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=f069ca8ad6a64beeb7d7ac34b070ee44&ei=86

[Dargo]

Suppose you are a Trump and you want to keep taxes low for the very rich. In a democracy, this is rather difficult, because the very rich are by definition a minuscule minority of the population. So how do you still get large parts of the electorate behind you, even if it is not in their economic interest to vote for you? The trick is to pit people against each other along nationalistic, cultural and racial lines. With this plutocratic variant of identity politics, the rich have managed to forge a coalition with middle- and working-class Americans, who have had it up to no end with centre-left politicians. The culture war as opium for the people.

[Dargo]

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[Otto Harkaman]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/SWboygIShmAAAAAd/whoa-deja-vu-matrix-glitch.gif

[mapuc]

A psychological question.

I'm in a debate with a FB friend who is sceptical that Trump should have an IQ around 140.

His argument is that Trump is mental and psychological unstable.

Can a person be mental and psychological unstable and still have a high IQ ?

Markus

[Reece]

Does Kamala Harris even have an IQ? A President without an IQ, might be an advantage because no one will know what we are doing especially ourselves :hmm2:

:har::har:

[Gorpet]

A psychological question.

I'm in a debate with a FB friend who is sceptical that Trump should have an IQ around 140.

His argument is that Trump is mental and psychological unstable.

Can a person be mental and psychological unstable and still have a high IQ ?

Markus

LOL, If you were to give all our politicians and yours a IQ test. We would find we have the same people who were popular in our high school years.With only popularity and family wealth,Then went to college on the taxpayers dime. Are now dressed up and pretending they have an IQ just above a tomato.And these young socialist,fascist, are very smart cause Benito had an IQ over Adolf and in the end.Their IQ's didn't matter. And so it will be in our forthcoming future.The end of our current Elite's and their vision of world domination will take a while.
But i must say now, with their biological virus.The people with the right IQ's doesn't look good. The more they can kill in warfare the more they eliminate that can oppose them.And now we have AI.So shall we now let a computer dictate the future of the survivors of their wars. I Don't THINK SO. but you might.And by the way if i have an IQ of 140 why should i even associate or talk to you ? Other than paying you to do my laundry. And i don't know who is moderator but i like your style.It fits the above.

[Gorpet]

[QUOTE=Gorpet;2899964]LOL, If you were to give all our politicians and yours a IQ test. We would find we have the same people who were popular in our high school years.With only popularity and family wealth,Then went to college on the taxpayers dime. Are now dressed up and pretending they have an IQ just above a tomato.And these young socialist,fascist, are very smart cause Benito had an IQ over Adolf and in the end.Their IQ's didn't matter. And so it will be in our forthcoming future.The end of our current Elite's and their vision of world domination will take a while.
But i must say now, with their biological virus.The people with the right IQ's doesn't look good. The more they can kill in warfare the more they eliminate that can oppose them.And now we have AI.So shall we now let a computer dictate the future of the survivors of their wars. I Don't THINK SO. but you might.And by the way if i have an IQ of 140 why should i even associate or talk to you ? Other than paying you to do my laundry. And i don't know who the moderator is but i like your style.It fits the above.

[Reece]

?? Whats with the double post Gorpet? :hmmm:

[Dowly]

?? Whats with the double post Gorpet? :hmmm:Combo bonus.

[Reece]

Wonder how many points he gets for that!!! :timeout:

[mapuc]

And then there was only a few left, after Ron DeSantis has withdrawn his candidate.

From what I understand he was the one who could threaten Trump as Rep. Presidential candidate

If this continue and Trump is removed from the ballot-There will not be any Rep. candidate left.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

With DeSantis out of the way, Haley can now start attacking Trump on his lying as well as his memory gaffs and abysmal record. She will be the GOP candidate.

[Skybird]

Haley can now start attacking Trump on his lying as well as his memory gaffs and abysmal record.You think the cultists care?
They do not stay loyal to their messiah despite his rotten behaviour but due to his rotten behaviour. You cannot convince them with reason or appeals. It really compares to a sect. The belief system is what reigns, its irrelevant to think it out and being convinced by ratio and logic. Its a very irrational thing.

[Reece]

^ :oops::doh::oops:

[Onkel Neal]

With DeSantis out of the way, Haley can now start attacking Trump on his lying as well as his memory gaffs and abysmal record. She will be the GOP candidate.

Wish I had your optimism. At least we will now see if the 21% for DeSantis and 19% for Haley converts to 40% for Haley.

Trump. Biden. What a country.:k_confused:

[mapuc]

Trump. Biden. What a country.:k_confused:

Who says you shall put your vote on one of them. There use to be outsider. Put your vote on a young person

Markus

[Buddahaid]

You think the cultists care?
They do not stay loyal to their messiah despite his rotten behaviour but due to his rotten behaviour. You cannot convince them with reason or appeals. It really compares to a sect. The belief system is what reigns, its irrelevant to think it out and being convinced by ratio and logic. Its a very irrational thing.

Yes, but at this stage they’ll also likely be hearing more about it from they’re chosen media. Haley doesn't have to play nice anymore to stay relevant and can play to the moderate republicans, and independent voters.

[Buddahaid]

Wish I had your optimism. At least we will now see if the 21% for DeSantis and 19% for Haley converts to 40% for Haley.

Trump. Biden. What a country.:k_confused:

I think a good portion will, plus a good amount of the right leaning independents.

[Buddahaid]

Who says you shall put your vote on one of them. There use to be outsider. Put your vote on a young person

Markus

No one says but the one voting by either choosing to vote for a candidate, not voting, or voting a write in candidate where allowed. That "other" option is what sunk Clinton in 2016 over Trump, is what I did and wished I hadn't post Trump's presidency. As much as I didn't like Clinton, I'm certain she wouldn't have caused a Jan 6th riot, nor tried to use fake electors in lieu of the legal electors, by refusing to admit defeat.

[August]

No one says but the one voting by either choosing to vote for a candidate, not voting, or voting a write in candidate where allowed. That "other" option is what sunk Clinton in 2016 over Trump, is what I did and wished I hadn't post Trump's presidency. As much as I didn't like Clinton, I'm certain she wouldn't have caused a Jan 6th riot, nor tried to use fake electors in lieu of the legal electors, by refusing to admit defeat.


Yeah but all those pay for access scams she would have ran through her foundation would have been fine by comparison to you? For all Trumps failings we dodged a huge bullet by keeping that evil woman out of the oval office.

[Dargo]

DeSantis Fact Check: Never Back Down.
Result: He backed down.

[mapuc]

DeSantis Fact Check: Never Back Down.
Result: He backed down.

Now he is supporting Trump

Markus

[Buddahaid]

https://youtu.be/FIXMS5EwbRQ?si=ZX6IDCFU8WPL3HiP

This is what I think she will do because it’s her best chance at the presidency. She can’t play for VP.

[Buddahaid]

Yeah but all those pay for access scams she would have ran through her foundation would have been fine by comparison to you? For all Trumps failings we dodged a huge bullet by keeping that evil woman out of the oval office.

I still believe she would never have gone where Trump has.
And, I appreciate having this discussion with you.

[August]

I still believe she would never have gone where Trump has.
And, I appreciate having this discussion with you.

Well Trump wasn't the first one to claim that a presidential election was fixed. Hillery was making that claim way back in 2016 and she continues to maintain it even now. Although you think otherwise, I believe that given her known ruthlessness and proven penchant for dirty tricks she would have gone to much greater lengths than Trump ever did to maintain power, and would likely have had the backing of the administrative state to do it, something which Trump most certainly did not have.

[Buddahaid]

Well Trump wasn't the first one to claim that a presidential election was fixed. Hillery was making that claim way back in 2016 and she continues to maintain it even now. Although you think otherwise, I believe that given her known ruthlessness and proven penchant for dirty tricks she would have gone to much greater lengths than Trump ever did to maintain power, and would likely have had the backing of the administrative state to do it, something which Trump most certainly did not have.

Fair enough, but that will remain a "what if" while with Trump we have history to substantiate his illegal behavior, and so far, that "administrative state" simply amounts to the rule of law as defined by the constitution.

When, and if, the SCOTUS rules against Trump's behavior, will that be "deep state" as well, or simply the execution of separation of powers? Trump has lost effectively every ruling from the courts in this land irrespective of what party the judges were appointed, or elected, from.

[Buddahaid]

I'm posting court filings of Trumps legal entanglements in order to avoid getting drawn into arguments over opinion. While these court filings contain the involved party's spins, they cannot be disputed as my spin on the subject. I will continue to post documents as they get filed concerning all of Trump's ongoing legal problems in order to dispel social, and mainstream media, claims.

Generally, you can scan the first pages to see who is filing about what, and the last pages to get the conclusions, or meat, of what is being argued.

Latest documents in the docket for the current E. Jean Carroll trial currently hampered by Covid-19 concerns as well as Trump's Tuesday schedule.

Rule of completeness letter filed by the plaintiff last Friday.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/274/carroll-v-trump/

And the following documents in the docket.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/275/carroll-v-trump/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/276/carroll-v-trump/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/277/carroll-v-trump/

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Thanks, Neal, for keeping the thread title calendarically (real word?) accurate!!

[August]

I will continue to post documents as they get filed concerning all of Trump's ongoing legal problems in order to dispel social, and mainstream media, claims/ (https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/277/carroll-v-trump/)


You do that and if he gets reelected anyways we'll know that the American people saw right through these lawfare attempts.

[Buddahaid]

Biden wins in New Hampshire as a write in candidate.

[August]

POLLS: Trump lead over Biden widens.


https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

[em2nought]

the American people saw right through these lawfare attempts.

"LAWFARE" great new term, and a democrat favorite from their dirty bag of tricks. Didn't work too well against Liberty Valance though. :03:

Scary thought: John Wayne had to assassinate Lee Marvin to save weak and wimpy Jimmy Stewart. Somebody better keep a sharp eye on Hillary. LOL

[Buddahaid]

The UAW has announced it’s backing Biden.

[mapuc]

The UAW has announced it’s backing Biden.

What does UAW mean ?

Markus

[Dargo]

What does UAW mean ?

MarkusUnited Auto Workers is a labour union

[em2nought]

United Auto Workers is a labour union

The union is one thing, but I'd wager most of the members "don't" back Brandon. :03:

[Buddahaid]

The union is one thing, but I'd wager most of the members "don't" back Brandon. :03:

I lot of those workers saw Biden supporting them during their latest strike and Trump pretending to from a non-union location while telling them they will lose their jobs. The union will be pointing that out to its members.

[Buddahaid]

Kate Cox invited to speak at the March 7th State of the Union address.
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/bidens-invite-kate-cox-to-state-of-the-union-as-honored-guest

[Buddahaid]

https://youtu.be/QXAXyuzIoHA?si=bxmEJ2WXbN4wSmXa

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79XgOcUAFTw

[Buddahaid]

Trump ordered to pay $83.3 million in second E Jean Carroll verdict.
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/jury-orders-trump-to-pay-carroll-million-for-his-lies

[Skybird]

Three plus twelve reasons why Trump would win against Biden.


https://www-andreas--unterberger-at.translate.goog/2024/01/drei-plus-zwlf-grnde-warum-trump-gewinnen-wird/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


In five years they vote their candidates from the pool of mummies in the Egyptian museum, I assume.

[Buddahaid]

Three plus twelve reasons why Trump would win against Biden.



Most of that was bullpucky.

[Buddahaid]

Trump ordered to pay $83.3 million in second E Jean Carroll verdict.
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/jury-orders-trump-to-pay-carroll-million-for-his-lies

EDIT: Hello Team Trump! Look up collateral espottle and think back seven months. This was known months ago and now they want a do-over and play victim. Team Trump blew it in the first trial, and because Donny can't shut up, they now reap the rewards of bluster mated with incompetence.

I didn't mean to quote myself with an edit.

[August]

EDIT: Hello Team Trump! Look up collateral espottle and think back seven months. This was known months ago and now they want a do-over and play victim. Team Trump blew it in the first trial, and because Donny can't shut up, they now reap the rewards of bluster mated with incompetence.

I didn't mean to quote myself with an edit.


Who are you talking to? :hmmm:

[Reece]

Must he answer that? :oops::oops:

[Buddahaid]

Who are you talking to? :hmmm:

Given the obvious disclaimer, apparently you. :hmmm:

Anyway, how's the model railroad?

[August]

Given the obvious disclaimer, apparently you. :hmmm:


Given the obvious disclaimer I think you are talking to yourself.

[Buddahaid]

Given the obvious disclaimer I think you are talking to yourself.

Fair enough, so does that invalidate the text, the message? Petty argument begats petty retort. You don't have a valid argument as regards the legal verdict and choose to pick nits.

[em2nought]

I wonder why this one didn't speak in a little baby voice like the Kavanaugh accuser. :D

[Buddahaid]

In order for Trump to appeal the $83.3 million verdict, he will have to pony up the cash as collateral. Let's see if his billions are where his mouth is.

And next week, Trump will likely get crushed in the New York fraud trial which may end up with about a $600 million price tag given a 9% annual surcharge on outstanding tax debt.

[August]

In order for Trump to appeal the $83.3 million verdict, he will have to pony up the cash as collateral. Let's see if his billions are where his mouth is.

And next week, Trump will likely get crushed in the New York fraud trial which may end up with about a $600 million price tag given a 9% annual surcharge on outstanding tax debt.




Look we all know the fix is in. 'Course the Democrats have been trying to crush Trump for almost 8 years now and have consistently failed. Maybe this time you'll actually get him.

[Buddahaid]

Look we all know the fix is in. 'Course the Democrats have been trying to crush Trump for almost 8 years now and have consistently failed. Maybe this time you'll actually get him.

The fix is the rule of law, and a lot of independents and republicans do not back Trump anymore. Poor MAGA finding itself on the brink of irrelevance due to mainly all hat and no cattle politics.

[August]

The fix is the rule of law, and a lot of independents and republicans do not back Trump anymore. Poor MAGA finding itself on the brink of irrelevance due to mainly all hat and no cattle politics.




Poor MAGA indeed. The fix is perverting the law as a political weapon. When it fails what are you going to do?

[Buddahaid]

Poor MAGA indeed. The fix is perverting the law as a political weapon. When it fails what are you going to do?

The law is not perverted, people's view of it is. Team Trump blew it at the first E. Jean Carroll trial by not making a case at all! An expert witness that backed out, missing the discovery deadline and never providing a DNA sample to contest the dress, and Trump running away to Scotland as an excuse for not testifying despite being given three more days to do so after the defense rested. And then, Trump not shutting up about it and moving on, leading to this current trial that was deemed only to be about damages having collateral espottle brought in.

Trump and Alina Habba new this, months ago, and now whine about not getting a do-over and play victim to the cameras.

[ET2SN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5fwtrD_uCM

I found the theme song for both campaigns. :yeah:

[Reece]

That's about the worse song I've ever heard!! :oops::timeout:

[ET2SN]

Yeah, but it grows on you after a while. :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[Jimbuna]

That's about the worse song I've ever heard!! :oops::timeout:

Did you honestly think it was that good? :)

[Skybird]

Trump is authentic and honest in his dishonesty - ten reasons why Americans can't get away from him


https://www.nzz.ch/international/10-gruende-weshalb-donald-trump-praesident-werden-koennte-ld.1776273?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[Jimbuna]

Trump is authentic and honest in his dishonesty - ten reasons why Americans can't get away from him


https://www.nzz.ch/international/10-gruende-weshalb-donald-trump-praesident-werden-koennte-ld.1776273?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Can't gat past the subscription part.

[mapuc]

I get the German version only.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Haley proves 'revenge is a dish best served on a bed of campaign cash': GOP strategist

Nikki Haley was expected to give up her pursuit of the presidency following her loss to Donald Trump in both Iowa and New Hampshire — but she didn't.

In a Sunday, January 28 op-ed for MSNBC, Republican strategist Susan Del Percio argues that, instead, the former South Carolina governor is showing that "revenge is a dish best served on a bed of campaign cash."

She writes, "Trump can’t figure her out," and "And he doesn’t like people — much less a woman — steadfastly refusing to cede the stage to him."

Noting one of Trump's recent social media rant's against Haley, the Del Percio emphasizes that "Some of the main targets of Trump’s ire were probably New York City billionaires Leonard Stern, Cliff Asness, Stanley Druckenmiller, Ken Langone and Henry Kravis, all of whom whom are co-hosting a fundraiser for Haley on Tuesday in New York." The Republican strategist adds, "These are the kinds of individuals whose validation Trump has always sought, and they clearly want nothing to do with him right now."
On Truth Social, the former president called Haley "Birdbrain," Del Percio notes, and then he proceeded "to threaten anyone with the temerity to continue pumping dollars into her campaign coffers," writing, "Anybody that makes a 'Contribution' to Birdbrain, from this moment forth, will be permanently barred from the MAGA camp. We don’t want them, and will not accept them, because we Put America First, and ALWAYS WILL!'"

Del Percio emphasizes, "Team Haley immediately jumped on the Truth Social post and used it in a new round of fundraising. As of Thursday afternoon, her campaign said she’d raised over a million dollars off the comments."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/haley-proves-revenge-is-a-dish-best-served-on-a-bed-of-campaign-cash-gop-strategist/ar-BB1hnVFH?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=c3c134a0fe47494e8c9a32658e6dd2b7&ei=21

[Skybird]

Sorry, there is neither a paywall nor an app blocker in place for me. For me the translation works.



App blockers or adware blockers or certain browser security settings can prevewnt google translator to work.

[vienna]

Trump has 30 days to post the $83 million collateral with the courts to initiate his appeals process or the court has the option of attaching his assets to satisfy the amount...


https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-842f3f9189bbd552bbbe903c48703cb7





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[em2nought]

I wouldn't ever touch that broad so I'm highly suspect that President Trump would have, although I have been wrong about that kind of thing before.

How can you ruin the image of professional liars which is exactly what the democrats with their "lawfare"(to borrow August's excellent new terminology) are. Swear on the Bible? They don't even want the Bible there.

[Buddahaid]

I wouldn't ever touch that broad so I'm highly suspect that President Trump would have, although I have been wrong about that kind of thing before...

Then he should have defended himself in the first trial instead of running away.

[em2nought]

You'd think Brandon could at least figure out the front & back of a hard hat being from blue collar Scranton and all? :har:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Biden-Hard-Hat-2.jpg

[Buddahaid]

Here's the letter sent by E Jean Carroll’s lawyer to the federal judge in the defamation case that Donald Trump just lost calling out Trump’s lawyer Alina Habba for lying about a relationship between the judge and Carroll’s lawyer that never existed.

Alina Habba may well get sanctioned again and recommended to the bar for discipline.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24392242-kaplan-responds-to-habba-letter

And Habba's post verdict letter alleging misconduct.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/gov.uscourts.nysd_.543790.281.0_1.pdf

[August]

You'd think Brandon could at least figure out the front & back of a hard hat being from blue collar Scranton and all? :har:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Biden-Hard-Hat-2.jpg


Probably left a dent.

[Cybermat47]

A far-right ‘activist’ has been arrested after decapitating his father and showing his severed head on YouTube in a video calling for far-right militias to murder all federal employees.

“He is now in hell for an eternity as a traitor to his country,” the man, who identifies himself as Justin Mohn, says to the camera before going on an unhinged rant against the government in line with QAnon conspiracy theories, calling for “militias” across the US to unite and kill federal officials “on site.”

The video, titled “Mohn’s Militia – Call to Arms for American Patriots,” was posted to YouTube at around 5:30 p.m. and appears to have been recorded in a bedroom where Mohn seems to be reading from a written manifesto on his computer screen.

In the footage, Mohn claims he is the commander of America’s network of militias as he rants against migrants, the Biden administration, the LBGTQ community, Black Lives Matter and “far-left woke mobs,” while calling for the slaughter and public execution of FBI agents, IRS employees, US Marshals, federal judges, border control officers and more “for betraying their country.”

https://nypost.com/2024/01/30/news/pa-son-arrested-after-posting-video-of-fathers-severed-head-report/

Absolutely sickening.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

A far-right ‘activist’ has been arrested after decapitating his father and showing his severed head on YouTube in a video calling for far-right militias to murder all federal employees.



https://nypost.com/2024/01/30/news/pa-son-arrested-after-posting-video-of-fathers-severed-head-report/

Absolutely sickening.


I'm starting to think that guy is a real jerk!

[Jimbuna]

'Donald Trump appears to be psychotic' as pressure overwhelms him: psychiatrist

According to a former clinical professor of psychiatry at the George Washington University Medical Center, a combination of age and the pressures Donald Trump is facing as he attempts to fend off multiple criminal indictments not only makes him dangerous — he's also close to a mental collapse.

In an interview with Salon's Chauncey DeVega, Dr. Justin Frank, author of "Trump on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President," bluntly stated "Donald Trump appears to be psychotic" after reflecting on recent outbursts during the E. Jean Carroll defamation trial that led to a stunning $83.3 million damage award.

Asked about what is going on with the former president who is being swamped by the onslaught of court cases, Frank suggested any vestige of a civil veneer Trump may have projected is long gone, and people are seeing him for who he truly is.
"From the time Trump was five years old, he hated rules and couldn't control himself. If Trump didn't like something, he would convert feelings into immediate action. He threw rocks at a toddler who lived next door when he was five. He punched out his second-grade teacher because he got mad at him. As a father, Trump knocked out his son, Don Jr., when he was in high school because he wasn't dressed appropriately," Frank recalled before adding, "Trump has always been like this."

"As people age, they generally do not change; they instead become more of their true selves," he further explained. "His capacity for self-restraint is becoming a thinner veneer over fundamental destructiveness. He is increasingly no longer able to fake it. This is why Trump is in court acting out, mumbling, being angry and disruptive."

After expressing concerns over a Rolling Stone report on the copious amounts of drugs that were dispensed by the Trump White House's pharmacy, including ketamine that is "used to treat severe depression," Frank expressed alarm at Trump's decline.

"Trump is extremely dangerous. Trump does not believe in laws and rules. He wants to be a lawless dictator. This is why I continue to share my conclusion, based on the evidence, that Donald Trump appears to be psychotic," he said.

"He is a person who is detached from reality. Even with the trials and other pressures, Trump is not capable of breaking down, of being cowed and/or broken. If anything, Trump will go down in flames if he goes down at all. Trump is an extreme narcissist who will destroy anyone who has ever done anything to hurt him, to oppose him, or defy him."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/donald-trump-appears-to-be-psychotic-as-pressure-overwhelms-him-psychiatrist/ar-BB1hFV7p?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=8846b45353204a58b723c3c963c3c7ce&ei=22

[August]

'Donald Trump appears to be psychotic' as pressure overwhelms him: psychiatrist


Here we go again. :roll:


The most senile President we ever had is currently sitting in the oval office displaying obvious signs of dementia and the left starts accusing the opposition of being crazy.


"Accuse others of what you are guilty of yourself" is straight out of the democrat playbook.

[mapuc]

I'm not in a position to put a marker on a Politician, like Trump I do not have the skills or knowledge to do so.

Trump may have some psychological issues or he may not.

What I know for sure is:
It depends on where a person stands politically.

A person who's against Trump are more prone to give him a psychological diagnose.
Or believe what are written in the news

Markus

[Dargo]

I'm not in a position to put a marker on a Politician, like Trump I do not have the skills or knowledge to do so.

Trump may have some psychological issues or he may not.

What I know for sure is:
It depends on where a person stands politically.

A person who's against Trump are more prone to give him a psychological diagnose.
Or believe what are written in the news

MarkusOld men helped cause the Soviet Union's collapse. Historians say it's a warning sign for the United States, and they are both old, very old more and more a gerontocracy. "What is the main difference between succession under the tsarist regime and under socialism?" "Under the tsarist regime, power was transferred from father to son, and under socialism – from grandfather to grandfather."

[Otto Harkaman]

We just need Kamala
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOHh0YWt2ZWpkNmlhbXBkeW8xb2sxdTN rOGxub2h1b2tnOGVhc3M0dCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/dXtqbOt96XReDeGDdF/giphy.gif
:rotfl2:

[Buddahaid]

So, it looks like the Manhattan DA, Alvin Bragg, not only indicted Trump first, but will more than likely obtain the first criminal conviction of Trump before April is over now that the DC election interference case is delayed pending Trump's immunity claim appeal. That trial date reservation is still active and no longer in conflict with a Federal trial.

[Cybermat47]

the left starts accusing the opposition of being crazy.

In fairness, I think we can all agree that the guy I previously posted about who murdered his own father and used the decapitated head in a YouTube rant about Biden and ‘far-left woke mobs’ was at least a little bit crazy.

And I do agree that Biden is too old to be president. I’m onboard with the idea that politicians should retire sometime in their 60s. I mean, Biden, Trump, and Clinton were born in the 1940s. It’s time for them to retire and allow younger people to take the reins. If nothing else, there’s less risk of younger people developing dementia, alzheimers, or other incapacitating conditions.

[em2nought]

My cousin is 83 owns her own home, is in good health, drives, and works a full time job in the summer while my friend's mother is 82 and she doesn't even know that she lives in the state of Texas let alone what city or street she lives on. This is the essential difference between President Trump and Sleepy Joe no matter how hard and often they might try to make them seem like similar choices.

President Trump is fit for office, Sleepy Joe isn't. :hmmm:

President Trump was "getting it done" while in office despite massive interference from all sides. Do I wanna be buddies with him? No. Do I want him for President again? Yes!

[Gorpet]

'Donald Trump appears to be psychotic' as pressure overwhelms him: psychiatrist

Sorry Jim, The psychotics are NATO, The New World Order, is the richest families across the Planet. Ya know who they are, they shove it in your face everyday. OH we want Democracy. That is the preaching of the Elite. Well there is a price that has to be paid. Donald Trump is just another ego. Among all the ego's with power. So how do the expendables survive ?

[August]

In fairness, I think we can all agree that the guy I previously posted about who murdered his own father and used the decapitated head in a YouTube rant about Biden and ‘far-left woke mobs’ was at least a little bit crazy.


Sure, so was the far left guy who shot up that Congressional softball game. But the question was about Trump and Biden, not some random nutter whose actual commitment to right or left is likely as shallow as the small puddle out at the end of my driveway.

[Buddahaid]

Sure, so was the far left guy who shot up that Congressional softball game. But the question was about Trump and Biden, not some random nutter whose actual commitment to right or left is likely as shallow as the small puddle out at the end of my driveway.

I think I can sum up this election year with this...
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&q=runaways+cherry+bomb&&mid=FFB5B12B364A04374BBAFFB5B12B364A04374BBA&&FORM=VRDGAR

[Reece]

Correction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF0gsbQKhD8

[Cybermat47]

All I can say is that, with all the insanity we’ve seen in American politics since 2015, I hope that all the Americans here stay safe, and I encourage everyone to question their news sources - especially the ones that tell you what you want to hear. Nothing good ever came out of an echo chamber.

[Buddahaid]

"25 of the world’s greatest Civil War legal scholars have banded together to tell the United States Supreme Court that the drafters of the 14th Amendment in 1868 would be shocked that Trump was not instantly disqualified and banned from the ballot by his actions."

Here's the amicus brief filed to the SCOTUS.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-719/299107/20240129171610494_23-719_Amici%20Brief.pdf

"INTRODUCTION AND SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT

This brief focuses on two textualist points. First, it
would violate the rule of law and textualism for this Court
to create an off-ramp to avoid adjudicating whether Mr.
Trump is disqualified. The power to decide a dispute about
a presidential candidate’s constitutional qualifications
is a judicial power that has been vested by the Electors
Clause initially in the States, and by Article III’s grant
of appellate jurisdiction ultimately in this Court. Section
5 of the Fourteenth Amendment merely gives Congress
power to legislate a judicial enforcement mechanism in
addition to this pre-existing judicial power of the States
and this Court.

Mr. Trump does not argue that the Constitution gives
Congress judicial power over a presidential qualifications
dispute. Section 5 of Article I gives Congress the power
only to “be the Judge of the . . . Qualifications of its own
Members.” In contrast, Section 3 of the Fourteenth
Amendment merely checks the judicial power of the
courts by giving Congress the power by two-thirds vote
to remove, for any reason, disqualification under Section
3, even after it has been judicially adjudicated.
Second, the terms of Section 3 of the Fourteenth
Amendment disqualify Mr. Trump. The Court should heed
the warning of Justice Holmes that cases of “immediate
overwhelming interest” often “make bad law.” Northern
Sec. Corp. v. United States, 193 U.S. 197, 400-01 (1904)
(Holmes, J., dissenting). Particularly because Section
3 emerged from the hallowed ground of the Civil War,
this Court must accord Section 3 its fair meaning, not a
narrow construction. Mr. Trump was “President of the
United States.” U.S. Const. art. II, § 1, cl. 1. He never
disputes that the President is an “officer.” It follows, as
the Fourteenth Amendment generation understood, that
the “President of the United States” is an “officer of the
United States.” Mr. Trump incited, and therefore engaged
in, an armed insurrection against the Constitution’s
express and foundational mandates that require the
peaceful transfer of executive power to a newly-elected
President. In doing so, Mr. Trump disqualified himself
under Section 3."

[Dargo]

All I can say is that, with all the insanity we’ve seen in American politics since 2015, I hope that all the Americans here stay safe, and I encourage everyone to question their news sources - especially the ones that tell you what you want to hear. Nothing good ever came out of an echo chamber.Hear hear note that those echo chambers are being used by Russia and China, how more those countries can polarize the West how happier they are.

[Buddahaid]

The DC Court of Appeals rules you have no special immunity citizen Trump and until February 12th to appeal to the SCOTUS.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/02/06/trump-jan-6-immunity-appeal-denied/

[August]

The DC Court of Appeals rules you have no special immunity citizen Trump and until February 12th to appeal to the SCOTUS.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/02/06/trump-jan-6-immunity-appeal-denied/




Again you're writing like Trump himself is reading this forum. It's gotten personal for you eh? You're like a modern day Inspector Javert. What are you going to do when he beats the rap like he's beaten every other Democrat travesty of justice?

[mapuc]

According to a Danish newspaper Trump will start a Trade war with China, so say 3 independent sources. If he win the Presidential election.

He hasn't won yet and already now they are after him as he was the President.

Found an English version of this article

However, a closer examination of the aftermath of the first trade war and its political ramifications within the Republican Party would lead to a different perspective

https://thediplomat.com/2024/02/would-donald-trump-start-a-china-us-trade-war-2-0/

Markus

[Buddahaid]

The DC Court of Appeals rules you have no special immunity citizen Trump and until February 12th to appeal to the SCOTUS.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/02/06/trump-jan-6-immunity-appeal-denied/

[Buddahaid]

More bad news for Trump with Weisselberg reported to be in a plea deal for perjury.

Judge Engoron has sent an email to the attorneys asking for briefs.
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/judge-engoron-demands-trumps-attorneys-to-address-his-cfos-potential-perjury-report

[Buddahaid]

Again you're writing like Trump himself is reading this forum. It's gotten personal for you eh? You're like a modern day Inspector Javert. What are you going to do when he beats the rap like he's beaten every other Democrat travesty of justice?
Ad hominem attack is all you have.

Personally, I’m wondering if the SCOTUS will hear an appeal or chicken out so they don’t need to choose sides.

[August]

Ad hominem attack is all you have.

Personally, I’m wondering if the SCOTUS will hear an appeal or chicken out so they don’t need to choose sides.


Well call it what you want but I do worry how you're going to take it when your side fails yet again. As it stands now he'll likely beat nutty Joe if they can't prevent him from getting on the ballot and that just might send you over the edge!

[Buddahaid]

Well call it what you want but I do worry how you're going to take it when your side fails yet again. As it stands now he'll likely beat nutty Joe if they can't prevent him from getting on the ballot and that just might send you over the edge!

The only way a president will be a Republican in the 2024 election is when Trump falls out and Nikki Haley is nominated.

[August]

The only way a president will be a Republican in the 2024 election is when Trump falls out and Nikki Haley is nominated.


Don't be so sure. Todays polls:

[Buddahaid]

Polls are pretty meaningless at this time.

Anyway, the House fails to impeach Mayorkas in yet another MAGA failure.

[Buddahaid]

And MAGA fails to decouple aid to Israel from aid to Ukraine that are both in the border bill MAGA wants to stop. Bad day for MAGA.

[Skybird]

What is worrying is the scenarios possible - and just ten years ago having been thought of as impossible - if Trump either gets banned by courts to candidate, or is allowed to candidate and against expectations looses the elections. Something could dangerously click in civil society then. Also worrying is the outlook of Trump wining.

Every possible scenario by now is worriyng, even a Biden win in itself and Trump in all regards taken out of the equation.


That bad it has become.

[Jimbuna]

What is worrying is the scenarios possible - and just ten years ago having been thought of as impossible - if Trump either gets banned by courts to candidate, or is allowed to candidate and against expectations looses the elections. Something could dangerously click in civil society then. Also worrying is the outlook of Trump wining.

Every possible scenario by now is worriyng, even a Biden win in itself and Trump in all regards taken out of the equation.


That bad it has become.

It certainly looks that way currently :yep:

[mapuc]

However it goes in the upcoming election the Americans are heading for a showdown.

It doesn't matter whether Biden or Trump should win the election. It's a choice between plaque and Cholera.

Markus

[Skybird]

One can see the Nevada results as relevant or not (due to the special situation there), important or not, but the impression that outlasts both is this: it was not just a defeat for Haley, but a humiliation. The question is not so much if she still has a chance left. The more truthful question seems to be: did she ever had a chance in the first?



Maybe she stays in the race, hoping the courts will knock Trump out. But will the party majority then forgive her automatically? I doubt it.

[ET2SN]

One can see the Nevada results as relevant or not (due to the special situation there), important or not, but the impression that outlasts both is this: it was not just a defeat for Haley, but a humiliation. The question is not so much if she still has a chance left. The more truthful question seems to be: did she ever had a chance in the first?



Maybe she stays in the race, hoping the courts will knock Trump out. But will the party majority then forgive her automatically? I doubt it.

Sky, remember that it was not long ago when the US delegation to NATO was led by a nasty woman who made a habit of flipping the middle digit to the rest of NATO. :yep:

THAT was Nicki Haley. There's a good reason why she looks familiar to Europe. :03:

Putin and Xi love this crap show. Its beyond their wildest dreams that we could get THIS screwed up THIS quickly. :doh:

[mapuc]

My imagination ran away with me....again.

We are in the near future USA is in a state of national unrest-The government isn't working, nor is the Congress or the Senate

Only a few month later following happens:

China sees it chances and invade Taiwan
Iran and some allied to them attack Israel
Russia seize the opportunity and attack the Baltic states.

Markus

[Skybird]

Sky, remember that it was not long ago when the US delegation to NATO was led by a nasty woman who made a habit of flipping the middle digit to the rest of NATO. :yep:

THAT was Nicki Haley. There's a good reason why she looks familiar to Europe. :03:

Putin and Xi love this crap show. Its beyond their wildest dreams that we could get THIS screwed up THIS quickly. :doh:oh don't worry, I am not a fan of her. Nor of Harris, Biden, Trump, or anyone.

[ET2SN]

Iran and some allied to them attack Israel



The worst-kept secret in the Middle East is that Israel has nuclear warheads and the hardware to deliver them. This is why Iran needs to maintain some form of deniability.

:Kaleun_Wink:

[Jimbuna]

The worst-kept secret in the Middle East is that Israel has nuclear warheads and the hardware to deliver them. This is why Iran needs to maintain some form of deniability.

:Kaleun_Wink:

Precisely! :yep:

[em2nought]

If the democrats manage to convince people that the border is MAGA & President Trump's fault they are truly evil masters of manipulation. :hmmm:

[Buddahaid]

Live audio of the SCOTUS hearing can be heard here.
https://www.youtube.com/live/E4ez1wVjj-I?si=sWrlSckOLgyW2v9v

[August]

What a difference party affiliation makes. Trump gets charged, Biden gets off.

Special Counsel Robert Hur will not recommend criminal charges against President Biden for mishandling classified documents, according to his report after a months-long investigation into the president's alleged improper retention of classified records.
Hur has been investigating Biden’s improper retention of classified records since last year. Those records included classified documents about military and foreign policy in Afghanistan, among other records related to national security and foreign policy which Hur said implicated "sensitive intelligence sources and methods."
"We conclude that no criminal charges are warranted in this matter," the report states. "We would reach the same conclusion even if the Department of Justice policy did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/no-charges-biden-classified-records-special-counsel-robert-hur

[Dargo]

In the meantime, you all polarise, vote for the one you deserve somebody is planning against you like Osama was planning 9/11 when the US was looking if Monica took her pants off.

[Otto Harkaman]

There won't be any choice, in the end
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/b-EDFuZbY2NA4wXFPuFRn5lEkaE=/0x0:3000x2000/920x613/filters:focal(1260x760:1740x1240):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/67193504/kamala_harris_biden_vp_getty_ringer.0.jpg
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOHh0YWt2ZWpkNmlhbXBkeW8xb2sxdTN rOGxub2h1b2tnOGVhc3M0dCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/dXtqbOt96XReDeGDdF/giphy.gif
:rotfl2:

[mapuc]

This seems to be Bidens biggest problem in the upcoming election

Joe Biden has a lot of work to do in shifting the focus from age to politics, says professor and head of the Center for American Studies at the University of Southern Denmark, Jørn Brøndal.

- So far he has not succeeded in selling his messages. Instead, it's going to be about how old he is

https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/politik/usa-ekspert-biden-fremstaar-meget-meget-gammel/10121822?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

[em2nought]

What a difference party affiliation makes. Trump gets charged, Biden gets off.

That's not going to go over well on my side.

Can't wait to hear what President Trump thinks about poor ol' sleepy joe getting off because of diminished capacity. :har:

[Skybird]

Bidne hit back at the special counsel, saiyng he forgot about those papers in a time when his son had died.



If the timescale matches indeed, its plausible.

[August]

Bidne hit back at the special counsel, saiyng he forgot about those papers in a time when his son had died.



If the timescale matches indeed, its plausible.


No it doesn't because the timescale extends literally over decades. Biden would remove them from the secure facilities they were supposed to stay in, not only throughout the 8 years that he was VP but he also kept them from his time as a senator.


Unlike Trump in neither position did Biden have the ability to declassify documents. Also unlike Trump these documents were scattered around in multiple locations whereas Trump had his in a locked room guarded by the secret service.

[mapuc]

Biden is the good guy and Trump is the bad guy

Joke aside

It should not be allowed for President or Vice president to remove classified paper from office at all. The chances they fall into wrong hands is high

I didn't know Trump had secret service at his Mar-a-Lago I understand why though and their job was to protect former President and not exactly the paper

From what I understand was the way Trump treated these secret papers.

Markus

[em2nought]

From what I understand was the way Trump treated these secret papers.

Markus

I personally bought a secret document from President Trump on ebay. His user name is (TRUMP1UNOIT), the mainstream media reported a whole series of stories on it for two weeks, and Biden's Justice Department created a case with 500 documents based on my purchase. :har: I'm sure it will be on the docket at any moment now as soon as they finish shopping it to a few friendly judges. :har: I'm currently writing a book, and practicing my tiny baby voice in case I need to testify. ROTFLMAO

[mapuc]

I personally bought a secret document from President Trump on ebay. His user name is (TRUMP1UNOIT), the mainstream media reported a whole series of stories on it for two weeks, and Biden's Justice Department created a case with 500 documents based on my purchase. :har: I'm sure it will be on the docket at any moment now as soon as they finish shopping it to a few friendly judges. :har: I'm currently writing a book, and practicing my tiny baby voice in case I need to testify. ROTFLMAO

OK I'm sorry Biden should had to be prosecuted too. There shouldn't be any different between these two person.

Markus

[ET2SN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb6LRfGhr_g


:Kaleun_Mad:

They can take my table saw when they pry it from my bandaged, cold, and dead fingers! :arrgh!:


:O:

[August]

Biden is the good guy and Trump is the bad guy

Joke aside

It should not be allowed for President or Vice president to remove classified paper from office at all. The chances they fall into wrong hands is high

That should be the case for every government official and actually is supposed to be that way the lower one is on the the totem pole. But the President has the authority to declassify any document. A Veep does not. That's a key difference.

[Dargo]

Is this decision not based on the fact how both reacted on this Trump with hold access for a long time and authorities had to collect them itself and Biden gave them when he found out do not know the secret of these papers but could Biden’s papers be of a lower secret level.

[August]

Biden has withheld access to those documents for decades in some cases. He broke the law by even removing them from a secure facility in the first place. How could he have not known that he had them?

He only started "cooperating" when he got caught with them in his possession. Trump on the other hand didn't conceal that he had documents which he believed he had declassified (something he was allowed to do) and he was engaged in talks with the National Archives over their eventual custody. It was Bidens justice department who decided to short circuit the process and go after him.

[em2nought]

Biden has withheld access to those documents for decades in some cases.

...and Sleepy Joe was only a VP at the time he snuck off with those secrets, so he couldn't declassify that material which seems to be a very informal procedure. If anything Biden should more likely be charged than President Trump should have ever been in the first place.

The DNC sold us this lame horse, and they knew he was lame. That right there should be a crime. Putting the nuclear football in the hands of an at best senile old grumpy angry man. :har: What a bounty they've provided us. Rampant Inflation, Afghanistan, Ukraine, HAMAS, crooked Justice Department, millions of illegal aliens, the list goes on. :har: :har: :har: 555

Those mean tweets are looking so bad now?

[vienna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb6LRfGhr_g


:Kaleun_Mad:

They can take my table saw when they pry it from my bandaged, cold, and dead fingers! :arrgh!:


:O:


No worries...

...a Sawzall should make short work of your digits...



<O>

[mapuc]

Ohh now the greasy thing has hit the fan

The White House described the remarks as “appalling and unhinged”. Trump made the statement on Saturday during a campaign rally in Conway, South Carolina, ahead of the state’s Republican presidential preference primary on 24 February.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/11/donald-trump-says-he-would-encourage-russia-to-attack-nato-countries-who-dont-pay-bills

I say he's right-Why should America help us, when we haven't paid the bill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGP1hJJNstI&ab_channel=TheTimesandTheSundayTimes

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Quite frankly, I'm a little surprised it has taken his long before the above was posted.

[mapuc]

Quite frankly, I'm a little surprised it has taken his long before the above was posted.

I read it first in a Danish newspaper

Here's Jens Stoltenbergs response

Any attack on Nato will be met with a strong response.
And if it is suggested that allies will not defend each other, it undermines the security of all NATO countries.
This is emphasized by NATO's Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg, in a statement on Sunday afternoon, according to the Norwegian media VG.

https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/politik/danskpolitik/nato-chef-om-kommentar-fra-trump-undergraver-alles-sikkerhed/10125333?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Yeah it's all over the news here in the UK and no doubt most of the world by now.

It must be a great source of encouragement and entertainment to those who would like to undermine the western alliance.

[mapuc]

I can't help laughing I have some friends on FB who does not like USA and/or Trump. Now they are complaining.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

What in particular are they complaining about Markus?

[mapuc]

He is complaining about the fact that USA has given promises to come to our aid and now they wouldn't come at all-If Trump wins the election.

Markus

[ET2SN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz9n2KWw214


:hmmm:


Meanwhile, I have noticed over the last ten years or so that many free countries have started flirting with the concept of giving Authoritarians control of their government. :timeout:

Never mind that once Authoritarians gain control, they never want to give it up. Somehow, these countries are too big to fail and once the the whole dictator thing gets old, they can just go back to business as usual. :doh:

This view stands in stark contrast to EVERYTHING I have learned and experienced. :yep:

Its the same as hoping for total chaos in your society. For the folks who think that would be great, I always ask how they would order a pizza for delivery in a total chaos society? I mean, EVERYTHING has broken down and you can no longer go shopping, you have to go scavenging while armed to the teeth. You're assuming that the total chaos stuff applies to everyone BUT you. No matter what, you're always going to be the luckiest S.O.B. on the planet and ALWAYS get what you want.

:har:

Trust me, it doesn't work like that. :yep:

[Reece]

He is complaining about the fact that USA has given promises to come to our aid and now they wouldn't come at all-If Trump wins the election.

Markus
If this is true then I don't see that anyone would or could vote for him. This makes it rather dangerous if he is elected, surely this wouldn't happen!! :k_confused:

[Skybird]

When Stoltenberg says that any suggestion that allies will not be defended undermines the credibility of the alliance - does this also adress states that talk a lot about loyalty to the alliance and defending it - but do not go to the trouble of enabling themselves to actually do so? Germany, for example, could no longer do so because it doesn't understand that its armed forces need ammunition to be able to fire, for example.

I hate to say it, but: Trump is right for once. And so was Obama, who has also complained about the Germans, but in a more subtle tone. And Clinton complained before him. And Bush complained before him. What did the Germans do during all the bitching?

They kept on cutting their former armed forces.

And the Germans are not alone in this. France: the same. Great Britain. Italy. Spain. The only really large battle-ready army in Europe - is the Turkish.

And after two years of war and all sorts of threats by Putin against NATO countries, there still hasn't been a real jolt to strengthen our defenses, except maybe the Polish and Baltic states, while Finland and Sweden have understood something important! Yet Putin has proven that he is serious and not just making empty threats.

Is Western and Central and Southern Europe asleep - or has it already gone completely mad and stupid?


I predict more conflicts sown by Putin, in Africa, to distract Europe and the US and to weaken their reserves and making them overstretching themselves. The Russian goal is clear. It wants to completely annihilate the post WW2 world order.

[em2nought]

If this is true then I don't see that anyone would or could vote for him. This makes it rather dangerous if he is elected, surely this wouldn't happen!! :k_confused:

Why should we pay for everything for everybody? Especially now that we have millions more illegal aliens to foot the bill for thanks to sleepy joe and his cronies. :hmmm:

[mapuc]

Why should we pay for everything for everybody? Especially now that we have millions more illegal aliens to foot the bill for thanks to sleepy joe and his cronies. :hmmm:

Absolutely correct, it's time we Europeans start to pay our share of the cake.

Markus

[em2nought]

Absolutely correct, it's time we Europeans start to pay our share of the cake.

Markus

In fact y'all should pay more than we do my friend, we have oceans between ourselves and any threats. Who is more likely to need to come to whose aid? :03:

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Biden: STILL better than the alternative!!

[Jimbuna]

He is complaining about the fact that USA has given promises to come to our aid and now they wouldn't come at all-If Trump wins the election.

Markus

Ah, right, understand now thanks.

[Buddahaid]

Which would be in conflict with the supremacy clause of the Constitution and illegal.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Six_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Supr emacy

[Dargo]

All those countries Trump said he will not help if Putin attacks them pay their share above the 2% GDP.

https://i.postimg.cc/jqGSxnxp/natodefspending.png

[August]

All those countries Trump said he will not help if Putin attacks them pay their share above the 2% GDP.

https://i.postimg.cc/jqGSxnxp/natodefspending.png


That's not how I read that chart. Looks to me like only half, including the US, pay MORE than their fair share and the ones in black (including some very rich nations) are deadbeats.

[Jimbuna]

Currently only eleven of the thirty NATO members meet the recommended criteria.

[les green01]

11 out of 30 not even half if anything happens the ones who don't comes a running they don't want to produce or be able to fight shouldn't come running with their hands out or female doging on this thread if the USA decides to do America first

[Buddahaid]

11 out of 30 not even half if anything happens the ones who don't comes a running they don't want to produce or be able to fight shouldn't come running with their hands out or female doging on this thread if the USA decides to do America first


And again the supremacy clause of the Constitution makes honoring treaties part of the supreme law of the land. The US the would have to formally withdraw from NATO which would require congress to act on it, not the executive branch. Read the damned document.

[mapuc]

And again the supremacy clause of the Constitution makes honoring treaties part of the supreme law of the land. The US the would have to formally withdraw from NATO which would require congress to act on it, not the executive branch. Read the damned document.

As I understand it - It wasn't about leaving NATO, it was to withhold any military assist to those members who hadn't payed full 2 % of the countries BNP.

And if I read the Article 5 correct-USA isn't forced to help a member in need.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I think the main bone of contention here is the fact that the potential next POTUS announced to the world “You didn't pay? You're delinquent? No, I would not protect you – in fact, I would encourage them to do whatever they want… You gotta pay.”

[Skybird]

Pacta sunt servanda.

Europeans have forgotten that.

Trump could boycott the defense of European nations without needing to leave NATO. He could just use the loophole build into NATO article 5 whose wording is such that it leaves every country the freedom to decide by itself whether it defines a given situation as a case valid to trigger the obligation to assist, or not. It also leaves open the possibility that any government dedices for itself in what form and by what means it contributes to the cause of defending somebody.

Article 5 is not that fail-safe road to "one for all, all for one" as which especially Europeans usually understand it.

I cant stand Trump, but sometimes, not matter what his real motives may be, he gets something right. And here he is. At least as far as his view on the European obligations goes.


On the other hand he is so derranged that it seems he cannot differentiate anymore between somebody who was Ronald Reagan or Margret Thatcher and somebody who was Adolf Hitler or Pol Pot, and mistakes the respectability of the one with that of the other, hence his admiration for Putin, Kim and Xi. Just that his own interest trumps everything and everybody else.



Regarding his geostrategic understanding of the US' global military and logistical interests, some US general recently described him as an "uneducated illiterate". That phrasing is a Bingo.

The cards get reshuffled. The US, China and Russia, icreasingly India divide and distribute the world newly. The old order after WW2 is no more. Europe is almost certainly gonna be left behind, has not what it takes to play with the big boys. However, if the US let it fall, it might be that Europe decides to then align itself to Russia, adding its potentials and skills it has to the Russian pool. And is that really in America's interest...?

Sometimes it is better to stay friends with someone, just to prevent them from befriending your enemy. After the example set by Saudi Arabia, Washington better should have learned this.

[Otto Harkaman]

USA is Trillions of dollars in debt, our military is dispersed all over the globe and the Europeans are complaining about paying just the minimum for their own defense :-?

[Dargo]

Republican warning of 'national security threat' is about Russia wanting nuke in space
The White House's national security adviser said Wednesday that he had already scheduled a classified meeting with congressional leadership before a top House Republican requested that President Joe Biden "declassify all information" that relates to "serious national security threat." Two sources familiar with deliberations on Capitol Hill said the intelligence has to do with the Russians wanting to put a nuclear weapon into space. This is not to drop a nuclear weapon onto Earth but rather to possibly use against satellites.

"It is very concerning and very sensitive," said one source, who called it "a big deal." While not addressing the subject matter directly, multiple members of Congress have described the issue as serious -- but nothing that should cause public alarm... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-plans-brief-lawmakers-house-chairman-warns/story?id=107232293

[mapuc]

Our newspaper here are using scare tactics-They say if Trump wins it's the end of NATO.

No it's not the end, it's the beginning of a new era a new type of NATO where each member pay their share(2 % of BNP)

Why they are using these scare tactics I don't know-It's not an American newspaper, so there's nothing we the European can do IF he decide to withdraw US from NATO.

He will not...

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

Mitterrand is back, too!

https://youtu.be/i0CL-_k3rUw?si=BpJvKhvXkO1ZCuuH

and somehow the President of Mexico opened the Israeli gate...
https://youtu.be/qzc5YrA3BR8?si=4UeVe_F9aJKI258n

He's just wandering around here...
https://youtu.be/5m942ADEGXg?si=0KdnbcUMSdAaVHh9

[ET2SN]

I'm still voting for him. :yep:

I worked too hard back in the day to just give everything to the Kremlin. :O:

[ET2SN]

Meanwhile,..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvePtMMOpQ


:salute:

[August]

It's not an American newspaper, so there's nothing we the European can do IF he decide to withdraw US from NATO.

He will not...

Markus


Trump can't withdraw us from NATO even if he desperately wanted to. Budda is correct. It would take a literal act of Congress.

[les green01]

And again the supremacy clause of the Constitution makes honoring treaties part of the supreme law of the land. The US the would have to formally withdraw from NATO which would require congress to act on it, not the executive branch. Read the damned document.

Honoring treaties that a joke how many treaties they made with the native Americans they honor again you talk about reading the damn document but you want to use 14-3 that can't be used the countries the not holding up their part of the NATO treaty to begin with don't deserve our help or money seem like you democrates are so worried about europe or nato and not what crossing the border that you guys open up

[Reece]

Settle down boys!!:O:

This would make a fine gift, you gotta love December!! :D

https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/1051015394/kim-jong-un-2024-wall-calendar-funny?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GDN_AU_DSK_CRM_Dynamic&utm_ag=HabitualBuyers&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMIoP7Y7NashAMV_KSsAh3jCA8 tEAEYASAHEgIASvD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_20189801254_152485370554_6605192279 01__c_&utm_custom2=20189801254&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoP7Y7NashAMV_KSsAh3jCA8tEAEYASAH EgIASvD_BwE

[em2nought]

...and just like that delinquent NATO members began to pay their dues. :D

[Jimbuna]

Donald Trump stands by remarks about not defending Nato members after backlash


Former President Donald Trump has again said that if he returns to the White House, he would not defend Nato members that do not meet defence spending targets.

It comes days after he set off alarms in Europe by suggesting he would tell Russia to attack Nato allies he considered delinquent.

Speaking at a campaign rally in South Carolina on Wednesday, he retold the story of his alleged conversation with the head of a Nato member country that had not met its obligations.

This time, though, he left out the line that drew the most outrage — encouraging Russia “to do whatever the hell they want”.

“Look, if they’re not going to pay, we’re not going to protect. OK?” he said.

A spokesperson for President Joe Biden’s re-election campaign said on Wednesday: “Donald Trump just gave Vladimir Putin the best possible Valentine’s Day present: his pinky-promise to give Putin the green light to mow down our allies in Europe if he’s elected president.”
Mr Biden previously excoriated Mr Trump for his remarks about Nato, calling them “dangerous”, “un-American”, and “shocking”.

Mr Biden has also pushed for a foreign aid package to assist Ukraine as it fights Russia’s invasion.

Mr Trump has opposed the aid and said that the US should instead provide a loan to Ukraine.

“Why should you just hand it over to them?” he said.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-stands-by-remarks-about-not-defending-nato-members-after-backlash/ar-BB1iiFfk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=091e6d4e3b24403eac50d862207df7a4&ei=13

[Onkel Neal]

As H. L. Mencken said, "this is the democracy people crave, and they are going to get it good and hard".

[Skybird]

I wonder who would be the better guarantor of Trump's election victory - Biden, or Harris? :D

[Jimbuna]

NATO Chief Warns: EU Cannot Defend Europe Without US Aid

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg issued a stark warning regarding European security, highlighting the critical role of the United States and other non-EU NATO allies in safeguarding the continent. This statement comes in response to the campaign declarations of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, who asserted that NATO countries failing to allocate two percent of their budget to defense should not expect assistance from the US.

In a comment to Reuters, Stoltenberg emphasized the insufficiency of the European Union in defending Europe on its own.

"The European Union cannot defend Europe. Eighty percent of NATO's defense expenditures come from NATO allies outside the EU," Stoltenberg informed the news agency.

Stoltenberg underscored that Europe's security relies not only on European efforts but also on the contributions of other NATO members, including the USA and Canada.

"If you just look at the map, it's obvious that all these countries, non-EU allies, are crucial for the protection of Europe," he stated, adding that any attempts to disconnect Europe from North America would only serve to divide Europe.

Many European nations regard the USA as their primary security guarantor, Stoltenberg highlighted.

Trump's remarks that the US may not defend NATO members who fail to contribute adequately to the alliance's budget drew sharp criticism from Western leaders.

European politicians viewed Trump's comments as a wake-up call, urging Europe to enhance its defense capabilities.

Stoltenberg called for European NATO members to bolster their defense capacities within a transatlantic framework. He noted that European allies are expected to invest $380 billion in defense this year, potentially reaching the target of allocating 2% of their total GDP to defense by 2024, up from 1.85% in 2023.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/nato-chief-warns-eu-cannot-defend-europe-without-us-aid/ar-BB1ihEc6?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=f6213c7b0dec41a7a883c5585c4e404d&ei=17

[mapuc]

Then pay your share-It can't be more simple.

18 out of 31 members are paying 2% or more of their GDP

Taking a free ride on the Cost of US military shall be stopped

I understand him very well.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

^ Very true Markus and for what it's worth the UK are one of them that do pay their way however Denmark is not so it is very much a case of "People in glass houses....."

[mapuc]

^ Very true Markus and for what it's worth the UK are one of them that do pay their way however Denmark is not so it is very much a case of "People in glass houses....."

The latest I have heard is that Denmark is spending almost 2 % of our GDP on the military. They have set a goal to spend 2 % by the year 2033. I think Trumps comment have made our politicians to think twice.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

The latest I have heard is that Denmark is spending almost 2 % of our GDP on the military. They have set a goal to spend 2 % by the year 2033. I think Trumps comment have made our politicians to think twice.

Markus

My information shows Denmark currently at 1.65% but the main importance is they are resolving to increase their funding....but not for almost nine years? :hmmm:

[Dargo]

My information shows Denmark currently at 1.65% but the main importance is they are resolving to increase their funding....but not for almost nine years? :hmmm:Is 1.65% not all most 2% :D

[mapuc]

Is 1.65% not all most 2% :D


I can only say what they told us in the news at noon. The government has decided to add xx BN Danish kroner to the military which will make Denmark among those who pay almost 2%. Additional the support for Ukraine shall be counted into the equation.

Markus

[Dargo]

I can only say what they told us in the news at noon. The government has decided to add xx BN Danish kroner to the military which will make Denmark among those who pay almost 2%. Additional the support for Ukraine shall be counted into the equation.

MarkusThe Netherlands has not yet met the standard, but is getting close for the first time this year. In 2024, the Dutch armed forces will have 21 billion euros to spend. To ensure that the Netherlands can permanently meet the standard, an additional two billion euros per year must be spent on defence starting in 2026. This all depends on the government we try to form, one of the biggest party is against NATO hope the other parties in the new government can prevent this.

[mapuc]

The Netherlands has not yet met the standard, but is getting close for the first time this year. In 2024, the Dutch armed forces will have 21 billion euros to spend. To ensure that the Netherlands can permanently meet the standard, an additional two billion euros per year must be spent on defence starting in 2026. This all depends on the government we try to form, one of the biggest party is against NATO hope the other parties in the new government can prevent this.

Made a search to find what was said earlier on the news in writing

Found this Danish article

https://nyheder-tv2-dk.translate.goog/udland/2024-02-14-18-lande-opfylder-nu-nato-krav-men-et-andet-maal-presser-danmark?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

[Dargo]

We do not need to fear that mutch for Russia before it can attack NATO it needs to rebuild his army that takes years and with Finland in NATO Putin will not dear to attack they tried it in the past and lost that sandkasten spiel and with all his offensive army in Ukraine it can only defend on the NATO-Russia border and that became very large recently. We in the West better give more support to Ukraine they inflict substantial damage on the Russian military, preventing them from open up other fronts. Don't forget also Poland with 2,000 brand-new tanks, armoured howitzers, large numbers of Apache helicopters, Abrams tanks, 506 Himars missile systems in addition, the government signed a mega deal with the South Korean defence industry: FA-50 jet fighters, another 288 Korean Himars lookalikes, 648 armoured howitzers (much of which will be built in Poland itself), and another thousand K2 tanks. The orders give additional teeth to the existing armed forces. These number nearly 300,000 soldiers and already had 800 pieces of artillery and 650 tanks, including the German Leopard 2. Anybody really thinks Russia can destroy this?

[Jimbuna]

Is 1.65% not all most 2% :D

Just send me a bank transfer for the equivalent amount and I'll be well happy :03:

[August]

Got this in the mail the other day


Trump's creation of Space Force proves pivotal amidst concerns over nukes in space


Amidst revelations of Russia's ambitions to weaponize space, Donald Trump's establishment of the Space Force showcases remarkable foresight and leadership, positioning the U.S. to counteract burgeoning space threats.
Key Details:


Visionary Decision: Trump's initiation of the Space Force was a strategic move ahead of its time, aimed at safeguarding national security against the backdrop of escalating space militarization.
Immediate Concerns: The urgent warnings by Rep. Mike Turner regarding Russian nuclear capabilities in space underscore the growing importance of the Space Force in contemporary defense strategies.
Strategic Defense Initiative: The Space Force's inclusion into the Intelligence Community, as orchestrated by John Ratcliffe, signifies a major step in bolstering U.S. defenses against sophisticated space threats.




https://mxmnews.com/article/4b189419-ff1b-4d9a-9082-df86f9bd339b?utm_medium=email&utm_source=ncl_amplify&utm_campaign=20240215-21524_don_jr_newsletter&utm_content=ncl-test123&_nlid=S9sTBGzvbw&_nhids=nc7lsdBS98n0ls

[mapuc]

Got this in the mail the other day




https://mxmnews.com/article/4b189419-ff1b-4d9a-9082-df86f9bd339b?utm_medium=email&utm_source=ncl_amplify&utm_campaign=20240215-21524_don_jr_newsletter&utm_content=ncl-test123&_nlid=S9sTBGzvbw&_nhids=nc7lsdBS98n0ls

Well then I have misunderstood it all I thought that Russia would build nuclear powered engine to their rockets and in satellites. In other word not as weapons.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Well then I have misunderstood it all I thought that Russia would build nuclear powered engine to their rockets and in satellites. In other word not as weapons.

Markus

Russia has signalled that the space arms race is on - with enormous risks

https://news.sky.com/story/russia-has-signalled-that-the-space-arms-race-is-on-with-enormous-risks-13072140

[Gorpet]

We do not need to fear that mutch for Russia before it can attack NATO it needs to rebuild his army that takes years and with Finland in NATO Putin will not dear to attack they tried it in the past and lost that sandkasten spiel and with all his offensive army in Ukraine it can only defend on the NATO-Russia border and that became very large recently. We in the West better give more support to Ukraine they inflict substantial damage on the Russian military, preventing them from open up other fronts. Don't forget also Poland with 2,000 brand-new tanks, armoured howitzers, large numbers of Apache helicopters, Abrams tanks, 506 Himars missile systems in addition, the government signed a mega deal with the South Korean defence industry: FA-50 jet fighters, another 288 Korean Himars lookalikes, 648 armoured howitzers (much of which will be built in Poland itself), and another thousand K2 tanks. The orders give additional teeth to the existing armed forces. These number nearly 300,000 soldiers and already had 800 pieces of artillery and 650 tanks, including the German Leopard 2. Anybody really thinks Russia can destroy this?

Drago, Russia can destroy every capitol of all the NATO countries.So all of NATO can destroy Russia many times over. But they only have to destroy you 1 time.So none of the above **** is going to matter. Every freedom fighter that wanted to collect some of that American cash,They went there and they are now MIA, No NATO country is going to tell you the truth . Merc's put their gopro's on thinking I'm a bad ass and when i get back they will make a movie about me. And the reality is we see clips on youtube of the last things their gopro see's and their screams.

So Drago, how long do you think this war across the planet would last if a Politician watched their son get blown to bits by a drone in a f....n trench in the middle of nowhere ? Oh and in today's world it could be LGBT. That's why the Americans and their Allies will pay for the Ukraines to die.What would happen if a trench full of female Mercs. Were Blown to bits ya know boobs,butts and painted finger nails on the battlefield
were splashed across Mainstream Media. At dinner time. Yea baby let NATO show them Russians we are the Champions, remember that song?

[Jimbuna]

A judge is expected to release his final ruling later in Donald Trump's civil fraud trial in New York.

Trump and his two adult sons have already been found liable of massively inflating the value of their properties by hundreds of millions of dollars in a trial that ended last month.

But this ruling sets out what penalties they must pay - and they could be ordered to pay millions of dollars, although Trump will likely appeal.

New York's attorney general had asked the judge to fine Trump $370m (£294m) for what she calls the "outrageous" schemes.

Trump could also be barred from doing business in New York where he built his property empire, or be told to hand over control of Trump Tower.

He and his two adult sons deny any wrongdoing, with the former president calling the case a "fraud on me" and a "political witch hunt"

[Buddahaid]

Here's the civil fraud ruling issued by Judge Engoron today. There is also statutory interest that will be added onto it which will bring it to $450 million or so. If Trump wants to appeal the decision, he will have to post bond for the full amount which means he will likely need to liquidate.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24432593-engoron-civil-fraud-ruling

[Dowly]

Nearly half a billion in legal debt, can't get loans from most banks, banned for doing business in NY for three years and his businesses are being monitored in case Team Trump tries anything shady.


Edit: Forgot to add that the monitor already caught Team Trump trying to transfer 40 million dollars behind her back. The agreement was/is that anything over 5 million had to be notified to the monitor. Going forward, Team Trump has to actually ask permission for larger transactions.


* So as not to interfere with the day-to-day business operations, the monitor and defendants agreed upon
a $5 million threshold; accordingly, defendants were obligated to inform the monitor of any transfer of
assets of $5 million or more. Defendants transferred approximately $40 million without disclosing it to
the monitor.



Winning! :haha:

[Ostfriese]

Nearly half a billion in legal debt, can't get loans from most banks, banned for doing business in NY for three years and his businesses are being monitored in case Team Trump tries anything shady.

Winning! :haha:


Ah, don't worry, Trump will be well paid by Putin for handing over America to the Russians :D

[em2nought]

So with no victims who gets the $355 million in fiat currency? :D

[Buddahaid]

The people of New York.

[Jimbuna]

Donald Trump’s niece says former US President is ‘increasingly unhinged’

Donald Trump’s niece has claimed her uncle is “increasingly unhinged” and says “democracy will be over” if he becomes president again.

Speaking to LBC’s Tonight with Andrew Marr on Monday (19 February), Mary Trump warned that "western liberal democracy" will be in "serious danger" if Trump becomes president again.

When asked if Trump has become more dangerous, compared to when he was president, Ms Trump said “yes” and said her uncle is “increasingly unhinged".

She also spoke about how she believes the former president has not changed since she was growing up.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-s-niece-says-former-us-president-is-increasingly-unhinged/ar-BB1izeN7?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=d644f8fe56dd45a4a84b49e57d57b0f5&ei=17

[em2nought]

The people of New York.

That'll be the day! :har: More likely the corrupt powers that be will spend it on themselves, or stuff like I-phones for illegal aliens. :hmmm:

[Onkel Neal]

Tucker Carlson goes to Moscow and is converted. Jeesh, what a bonehead.

https://twitter.com/CatchUpFeed/status/1758363758899159371

[Armistead]

Donald Trump’s niece says former US President is ‘increasingly unhinged’

Didn't watch it, but didn't think she had any contact with him at all. Course, she's a nut job which seems to run in the family. I did watch Trump's town hall last night on FOX, didn't seem unhinged, but even as a Republican I just sat there and shook my head and he never really answered a question, just everything he did was ... perfect. Course I'll vote for him, cuz Harris is gonna be a much worse option.

[Dargo]

Tucker Carlson goes to Moscow and is converted. Jeesh, what a bonehead.

https://twitter.com/CatchUpFeed/status/1758363758899159371https://i.postimg.cc/YqKCCXcR/tuckerc.jpg

[Dargo]

Alexander Smirnov: FBI source accused of Biden lies 'linked to Russian intelligence'An ex-FBI informant accused of lying about President Joe Biden and his son Hunter has high-level ties with Russian intelligence, US prosecutors say. The allegations against Alexander Smirnov, 43, were outlined in new Department of Justice filings in the case on Tuesday. Mr Smirnov is accused of lying when he claimed bribes were paid to the Bidens via a Ukrainian energy firm, Burisma. He was charged last week with giving false statements to the FBI. Mr Smirnov's claims were part of an ongoing effort by Republicans to impeach President Biden. He was arrested in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Thursday after returning from an overseas flight, the justice department said. Prosecutors had asked for Mr Smirnov, a dual US-Israeli citizen, to be held without bail, arguing that he has no ties to Las Vegas, but does have contacts with Russian intelligence agencies.

But on Tuesday US Magistrate judge Daniel Albregts allowed the defendant to be released from custody and be monitored by GPS until his trial. He must remain in Nevada's Clarke County and is banned from applying for a new passport. Mr Smirnov - who had been held at a jail in Pahrump, about an hour from Las Vegas, since his arrest - did not speak to journalists as he left court. The justice department says that he disclosed his intelligence contacts to his FBI handler, saying he could use those connections - which prosecutors described as " extensive and extremely recent" - to leave the US. In court documents filed Tuesday, prosecutors also alleged that Mr Smirnov told authorities he had only $1,500 in cash and $5,000 in a bank account, when in reality he had access to about $6m in "liquid funds". "The fact that Smirnov misrepresented his assets alone should cause Smirnov to be detained because it shows that, at the first opportunity, he did not provide true and complete information to pretrial services," the filing says. In December 2023, the legal filing says, Mr Smirnov attended an overseas meeting with "a high-ranking member of a specific Russian foreign intelligence service".

Mr Smirnov told his FBI handler that he learned Russian intelligence had intercepted "several" phone calls made at a certain hotel by prominent US people, according to the justice department. Neither the hotel nor its location is specified. Mr Smirnov allegedly said the eavesdropped recordings could be used as "kompromat" (compromising material) during the 2024 election campaign. He was charged by Special Counsel David Weiss - who has overseen the investigation of Hunter Biden - with providing "false derogatory information" to the FBI about the president and his son in June 2020. Prosecutors allege that Mr Smirnov was motivated by his dislike of the president. If convicted, he faces a maximum of 25 years in prison. In a separate court filing on Tuesday, Hunter Biden's attorneys sought to have federal tax charges dismissed, arguing that he was the victim of politically motivated "selective and vindictive prosecution". Additionally, the filings argue that the prosecutors' assertions that the younger Mr Biden lived a "lavish" and "extravagant" lifestyle were "irrelevant and prejudicial" to the case. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68353303.amp

[Jimbuna]

Trump says his $355m fraud penalty is ‘a form of Navalny’

Donald Trump has said that being hit with a $350m judgement following his recent high profile fraud case was “a form of Navalny,” in reference to the jailing and apparent murder of the late Russian dissident.

The former president said that the ruling by New York judge Arthur Engoron – who he described as a “nut job” – was “a form of communism or fascism”.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-says-his-355m-fraud-penalty-is-a-form-of-navalny/ar-BB1iCiCx?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=49123e3ddb824195983c716b832c61d3&ei=13

[Dargo]

Trump says his $355m fraud penalty is ‘a form of Navalny’Wow how egocentric to use a true leader and fighter not even in his grave for his own gain.

[Dargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvrxyoscst4

[Reece]

:har::har: Nothing like a good laugh!! :har::har:

Thanks Dargo :up:

[August]

Wow how egocentric to use a true leader and fighter not even in his grave for his own gain.


That is true but he's kind of right. Both actions were designed to eliminate a political opponent. The only real difference is the Democrats haven't resorted to assassination yet. They are trying to send Trump to the gulag though. Once he is there who is to say they won't try to Epstein him?

[Dargo]

That is true but he's kind of right. Both actions were designed to eliminate a political opponent. The only real difference is the Democrats haven't resorted to assassination yet. They are trying to send Trump to the gulag though. Once he is there who is to say they won't try to Epstein him?Oh come on, you do not know the gulag system in Russia or Russia authoritarian repression. Your lot are being fed by that same Russia to cause America in chaos Putin succeeded in this you are at each other throats. The American people are being played ossified systems of governance lured by the intoxication of violence to build their warped ideology around conspiracy theorists, there are no assassination attempts if they were, Trump already would be dead. In Putin's Russia, laying flowers is certain dead (sent to the front and if you are not sent to Ukraine you are on the list for one trip gulag in the future) do not come whining if your corrupt leader goes into his cosy cell love it you talk about Epstein was he not buddy of the ruling cabal including Trump. You think you are driving the bus, and yet it’s driving you and suddenly other hands than yours are on the wheel,

[Buddahaid]

Well said.

[August]

Oh come on, you do not know the gulag system in Russia or Russia authoritarian repression. Your lot are being fed by that same Russia to cause America in chaos Putin succeeded in this you are at each other throats. The American people are being played ossified systems of governance lured by the intoxication of violence to build their warped ideology around conspiracy theorists, there are no assassination attempts if they were, Trump already would be dead. In Putin's Russia, laying flowers is certain dead (sent to the front and if you are not sent to Ukraine you are on the list for one trip gulag in the future) do not come whining if your corrupt leader goes into his cosy cell love it you talk about Epstein was he not buddy of the ruling cabal including Trump. You think you are driving the bus, and yet it’s driving you and suddenly other hands than yours are on the wheel,


Is there a point hidden somewhere in this unhinged rant?

[em2nought]

Only eleven states out of fifty have a larger population than the number of illegal aliens who have walked across our border since sleepy joe was installed. :o

I'm assuming nine million and climbing based on the numbers I've seen for encounters and "gotaways". :hmmm: That's more than the population of Virginia.

Compare that to Germany with 1.5 million Turks within their population of 80 million Huns. ;)

[Skybird]

Could have posted this in the Ukraine or China or Russia or a new Europe thread as well, but I had to make a choice.


Why is it that the US and the whole West get militarily outproduced by China and Russia? The DoD recently gave hints and clues. They are worrying.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrlMFFXmbxQ

[em2nought]

Could have posted this in the Ukraine or China or Russia or a new Europe thread as well, but I had to make a choice.


Why is it that the US and the whole West get militarily outproduced by China and Russia?

Russia uses a grease pencil to write in space, we spend millions to develop a ballpoint pen to do the same job less reliably. :03:

China just steals our pens, and probably keeps a grease pencil around just in case. :D

[Ostfriese]

Russia uses a grease pencil to write in space, we spend millions to develop a ballpoint pen to do the same job less reliably. :03:



Funny, but not true. Urban legend.

[em2nought]

Funny, but not true. Urban legend.

Sort of true, it's just the degree of obscene spending that's in question. :D In fact, NASA ordered 34 mechanical pencils from Houston's Tycam Engineering Manufacturing, Inc., in 1965. They paid $4,382.50 or $128.89 per pencil. When these prices became public, there was an outcry and NASA scrambled to find something cheaper for the astronauts to use.

Meanwhile Massachusetts is spending $64 per day to feed each illegal alien in it's care. https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/boston-s-migrant-shelter-luxury-state-pays-64-per-day-for-meals/ss-BB1ixf1k I've never in my life spent $64 for one day's worth of food to feed myself. :har: Not even when I visited socialist countries like France in Europe. ;) I do remember thinking $2 for a coke was crazy at the time. LOL Shoot, I could eat Mountain House freeze dried prepper meals for cheaper. LOL

[Skybird]

Hope the Translator works.

About a new progressive group of voters who consider the excesses of the woken and identity ideology so dangerous that they are helping Trump get re-elected precisely because of it.

https://www.nzz.ch/feuilleton/warum-die-woken-donald-trump-wohl-wieder-zum-us-praesidenten-machen-werden-ld.1814937?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de

[Jimbuna]

'They are going to empty the coffers': GOP panics as Trump’s legal costs hurt fundraising

Former President Donald Trump's mounting legal bills are threatening the Republican Party's ability to fundraise ahead of a pivotal presidential election.

The Washington Post reports that the Republican National Committee (RNC) is already starting to fret about its finances given that it's trailing the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in fundraising by an almost three-to-one margin. The DNC has roughly $25 million in cash on hand, compared to the RNC's $8.7 million. And between President Joe Biden's campaign and the Trump campaign, the difference looms even larger: Biden had more than $56 million in cash available by the end of January 2024, whereas Trump had less than $31 million. At the end of 2023, Biden also led in unique donors, with 172,000 to Trump's 143,000 unique donors.

Leading GOP figures are now starting to question whether that gap can be closed at all given that Trump still needs to pay for his legal defense in four looming criminal trials this year.

"[Trump] needs to raise money. Look what Democrats are raising. I told him, they are going to empty the coffers here," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) told the Post. "It’s one of the things that concerns me."

Aside from his legal bills for defending himself from 91 felony charges, the former president has also been crushed under the weight of multiple civil judgments. Earlier this month, writer E. Jean Carroll won an $83.3 million judgment against Trump for defamation, and a New York clerk recently entered in a total cost of $454 million for Trump's civil fraud judgment, when taking interest into account. The ex-president is now facing roughly $111,000 per day in new interest until that judgment is paid, even as he appeals the verdict. The Post estimated that in 2023 alone, roughly 23% of all money raised by Trump's affiliated political action committees went toward paying his legal costs.

Unlike Trump, Biden and the DNC are unburdened by legal woes, and are free to spend on advertising and organizing in both competitive battleground states along with high-profile US Senate races.

"It's been a tough couple of weeks if you are Donald Trump and also like money,” Biden rapid response director Ammar Moussa told the Post. "While Trump, with the help of his ultrarich donors, burn cash paying for Trump’s... challenges, our campaign is proud of its historic war chest whose funds are going to reach the voters who will decide the election this November."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/they-are-going-to-empty-the-coffers-gop-panics-as-trump-s-legal-costs-hurt-fundraising/ar-BB1iPbav?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=aa1d396fcd2847409021b7800af6cc55&ei=43

[Skybird]

Hope the Translator works.

About a new progressive group of voters who consider the excesses of the woken and identity ideology so dangerous that they are helping Trump get re-elected precisely because of it.

https://www.nzz.ch/feuilleton/warum-die-woken-donald-trump-wohl-wieder-zum-us-praesidenten-machen-werden-ld.1814937?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de
Too bad, its either a browser setting or blocker thing or NZZ tries really hard not to get quoted. They change their site policies all the time in a bid to avoid quotations.

[ET2SN]

Hope the Translator works.

About a new progressive group of voters who consider the excesses of the woken and identity ideology so dangerous that they are helping Trump get re-elected precisely because of it.

https://www.nzz.ch/feuilleton/warum-die-woken-donald-trump-wohl-wieder-zum-us-praesidenten-machen-werden-ld.1814937?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de

Some of them also moved to Russia. :har:
I wonder how that's working out? :hmmm:

[ET2SN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS8kzmiV0Xg


I like the tee shirt. :yeah:

[Jimbuna]

Joe Biden wins Michigan primary despite sizeable Gaza protest vote

President Joe Biden is projected to win Michigan's Democratic presidential primary comfortably, despite a significant protest vote over strong US support for Israel in the war in Gaza.

Mr Biden won 80% of the vote, according to projections, but the "uncommitted" exceeded expectations with 13%.

His campaign will pay close attention to see if that result in the key swing state will spread nationwide.

Many voters have been angered by the US stance in the Israel-Hamas conflict.

Activists from the group Listen to Michigan hailed the size of the "uncommitted" vote - more than 100,000 - as a victory.

The result could bolster similar protest efforts underway in states like Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and Georgia.

People were in tears at the organisation's watch party as tallies were periodically updated.

Former congressman Andy Levin, who supports the "uncommitted" vote, told the crowd: "I take no joy in being here tonight. This moment is a child of necessity because people are dying by the thousands."

The US is a close ally of Israel, providing it with billions of dollars in military aid.

Earlier this month the US vetoed a UN resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, while proposing a draft of its own, urging a temporary ceasefire.

Many people, including in Mr Biden's own party, want the president to take a much stronger stance against Israel's military campaign.

On the eve of the Michigan vote, Mr Biden said he hoped there would be a pause in fighting in Gaza by Monday - a statement that was not echoed by either Israel or Hamas.

Mr Trump is also projected to easily win Tuesday's Republican primary in the state, after what he called a "great day".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68420519

[Jimbuna]

Trump disqualified from Illinois ballots by state judge over insurrection

Donald Trump has been disqualified from appearing on the Republican presidential primary ballot in Illinois over his role in the insurrection at the US Capitol on 6 January 2021.

On Wednesday, Cook County Circuit Judge Tracie Porter sided with voters who argued that the former president should be disqualified from the state’s 19 March primary ballot and the 5 November general election ballot for violating the anti-insurrection clause of the US Constitution’s 14th Amendment.

However, Judge Porter delayed her ruling from taking effect in light of an expected appeal by the former president.

A campaign spokesperson for Trump, the national frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination, confirmed the intention in a statement which called the ruling “unconstitutional”.
The outcome of the Illinois case and similar challenges will likely be decided by the US Supreme Court, which heard arguments related to Mr Trump’s ballot eligibility on 8 February. Oral arguments on his “immunity” defence will take place on 22 April – in the middle of a primary election calendar and Mr Trump’s busy schedule of multiple criminal and civil cases.

Following the ruling in Illinois, the advocacy group Free Speech For People, which spearheaded the Illinois disqualification effort, praised the ruling as a "historic victory" in a statement.

Colorado and Maine earlier removed the former president from their state ballots after determining he is disqualified under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. Both decisions are also on hold while Mr Trump appeals.

Section 3 bars from public office anyone who took an oath to support the US Constitution and then has "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

Supporters of Mr Trump attacked police and swarmed the Capitol on 6 January 2021 in a bid to prevent Congress from certifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory.

The former president gave an incendiary speech to supporters beforehand, telling them to go to the Capitol and "fight like hell." He then for hours did not act on requests that he urge the mob to stop.

The Supreme Court is currently weighing Mr Trump’s challenge to his Colorado disqualification. The justices in Washington appeared sceptical of the decision during oral arguments in the case, expressing concerns about states taking sweeping actions that could affect the national election.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-disqualified-from-illinois-ballots-by-state-judge-over-insurrection/ar-BB1j4Asb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=20c5b62299c748b4b77b90a98b320cdc&ei=19

[em2nought]

I think the democrats are starting to panic a bit. :D

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. dR3p8QFXDEWfEZt-shr7bQHaHW%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=e313b2d25ee8894b62766a470070318435c44bdbf62b33 6861bb342bdefa507d&ipo=images

[mapuc]

The ball is rolling now Illinois is the third state who has demanded Trump being removed from the ballot.

It all depend on the Supreme Court in the end - if they give the green light many more states will follow.

Markus

[August]

The ball is rolling now Illinois is the third state who has demanded Trump being removed from the ballot.

It all depend on the Supreme Court in the end - if they give the green light many more states will follow.

Markus


Some might even go the other way and remove old Joe.

[Jeff-Groves]

if they give the green light many more states will follow.

And soon after? The 2nd Civil War in the U.S.A. will start.

[Buddahaid]

And soon after? The 2nd Civil War in the U.S.A. will start.

And fizzle out as a misplaced bad idea brought to you by fragile snowflake sore losers that can't imagine their viewpoint isn't popular.

[mapuc]

We are approaching Super Tuesday which is on the 5th of March.

I have no doubt that Trump will get these 870-something electoral in these state elections

Now imagine following:
He get these 1200-something electoral and are elected as the Rep. candidate. Not so long after Supreme court gives the green light to remove Him from the ballot.

I know my imagination does run away with me. However I'm trying to see the outcome if this should happen.

I doubt it would mean 2nd Civil War I say massive public unrest will happen in many places in the USA

I do also know that Russia and China will clap their hands in joy.

[Buddahaid]

I don't think China would welcome another Trump presidency. It would not be good for their economy.

[mapuc]

I don't think China would welcome another Trump presidency. It would not be good for their economy.

I meant if Trump is removed from your ballot in the upcoming Presidential election and civil unrest happens China and Russia will clap their hands in joy

Markus