US Politics Thread 2021-24

[mapuc]

So you are saying that it is the courts who's in charge and not the politicians in Washington ?

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Funny, I struggled for years as a young adult in the seventies. Maybe that's just life?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/uaw-files-federal-labor-charges-against-donald-trump-and-elon-musk-after-threatening-workers-on-x-interview/ar-AA1oJu9T?ocid=BingNewsSerp

The 70's? Are for real? :har::har::har::har::haha::haha: Bud, I don't even want to touch that. Get with the program. It is 2024. A entire different world. Be cool groovy.

[AVGWarhawk]

Or the feckless policies of the Demoncrat Carter administration.

Jimmy was busy giving away a canal.

[Dargo]

So you are saying that it is the courts who's in charge and not the politicians in Washington ?

MarkusIn every democratic state, law and constitution stands above politics to guard democracy.

[Buddahaid]

The 70's? Are for real? :har::har::har::har::haha::haha: Bud, I don't even want to touch that. Get with the program. It is 2024. A entire different world. Be cool groovy.

Yeah, the seventies that witnessed double digit inflation and was hard on everyone.

https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/great-inflation

[AVGWarhawk]

Yeah, the seventies that witnessed double digit inflation and was hard on everyone.

https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/great-inflation

Not that I recall. But that's life I guess. So, you think all is ok now because your life is in order. Bills paid and you are not eating Hamburger Helper minus the hamburger. Got it. :Kaleun_Wink:

[Rockstar]

Y’all know he’s trollin’ the hell outta y’all.

[Buddahaid]

Not that I recall. But that's life I guess. So, you think all is ok now because your life is in order. Bills paid and you are not eating Hamburger Helper minus the hamburger. Got it. :Kaleun_Wink:

No, I'm not saying it's all rainbows and unicorns. I'm simply pointing out that times have been worse in living memory and people get through it.

[AVGWarhawk]

No, I'm not saying it's all rainbows and unicorns. I'm simply pointing out that times have been worse in living memory and people get through it.

Yes sir. Unicorns farting Skittles. Why do people need to just get through at anytime? We should have too.

[AVGWarhawk]

Y’all know he’s trollin’ the hell outta y’all.

I'm game! :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[Buddahaid]

Y’all know he’s trollin’ the hell outta y’all.

Poking the MAGA bear is more fun than any sim I’ve played in years, and easier. 👺

[mapuc]

In every democratic state, law and constitution stands above politics to guard democracy.

As it should be-However there are immigrations or refugees who have no rights to be in the country and shall therefore leave or be deported by the authorities
How many thousands of these Immigrants or refugees is not real I can't say.
If this means mass deportation of immigrants or refugees because they have no rights to be in the country-Then the Court should stay away.

Real Refugees and immigrants shall have help and shelter.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Poking the MAGA bear is more fun than any sim I’ve played in years, and easier. 👺

Peace, love and Bobby Sherman.

[Dargo]

As it should be-However there are immigrations or refugees who have no rights to be in the country and shall therefore leave or be deported by the authorities
How many thousands of these Immigrants or refugees is not real I can't say.
If this means mass deportation of immigrants or refugees because they have no rights to be in the country-Then the Court should stay away.

Real Refugees and immigrants shall have help and shelter.

MarkusMass deportation is mostly not allowed by law what ever a politician wants and courts can not step aside if laws are not obeyed if it is the state or a citizen task of the judge is to resolve conflicts not to look away like in an authoritarian system.

[Buddahaid]

Peace, love and Bobby Sherman.

I prefer The Charlatans.

[AVGWarhawk]

I prefer The Charlatans.

Must be a Democrat!

[Rockstar]

So you are saying that it is the courts who's in charge and not the politicians in Washington ?

Markus

There are enough border regulations and laws already on the books which allows the Federal Government do just about anything it wants at the border. The real issue is what law are they going enforce and when.

[Buddahaid]

Must be a Democrat!

Compliment accepted.

[mapuc]

Are you familiar with your preferred party's policy in the various areas, such as domestic policy, foreign policy, etc. ?

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Who me, or us in general? Voter turnout is typically pretty low at something around 65% and a lot of people don’t follow politics until the final couple of months.

Meanwhile there is a conviction in Colorado of an ex county clerk over a 2021 scheme to breach Colorado’s election system.
https://youtu.be/_lsBSBLy5Zc?si=JiGnHB5pjqoDb2N_

[vienna]

It appears JD Vance may have one of his venture capital projects come back and bite him on the ass:


Workers allege ‘nightmare’ conditions at Kentucky startup JD Vance helped fund --

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/13/politics/kentucky-startup-appharvest-jd-vance/index.html


Failed Vance-backed start-up stirred worker complaints, then hired migrants: JD Vance in the news --

https://www.cleveland.com/politics/2024/08/failed-vance-backed-start-up-stirred-worker-complaints-then-hired-migrants-jd-vance-in-the-news.html


Kinda hard to explain why his project went and imported migrant workers when there are all those US worker just dying to get a job; then again, his butt buddy Trump knowingly staffed some of his properties with illegals until he put his hat in the political ring; also, note the project ended in bankruptcy: I guess Vance is also trying to copy Trump's six (6) bankruptcies; gee, maybe everyone should thank the GOP for offering up a POTUS/VP slate of financial/business failures to run our nation's economy...

On the subject of migrant workers, the biggest drawing card for migrants is the prospect of jobs in the US; now, the law says it is illegal to hire illegals, bu, dang, if the illegals don't find jobs, anyway; in all the talk of immigration reforms and building walls, etc., the glaringly huge fact that employers in the US in several areas of the economy regularly flaunt the established laws and continue to hire illegals; some of you may be aware of the existence of a government program called E-Verify (EV), which is supposed to allow an employer to verify if a potential employee is actual legally qualified to work in the US; sounds like a real good idea, right?; but when the law was originally passed, there was extensive lobbying by certain sectors of the US economy to not make the program mandatory, just having participation as voluntary, essentially gutting the original intent of the legislation: making it extremely difficult for illegals to get jobs and disincentivizing migrants form wanting to enter the US; the voluntary nature of EV has been going on for decades and every time the idea is broached of making compliance with EV mandatory, the same well-connect businesses/industries quietly push down any attempts to close the massive flaw in the law; the businesses involved in gutting the law are the same every time: the major hotel and resort chains, big agriculture, labor intensive businesses like the meat packing industry, etc., with a very large number of those companies operating in Red States, which also points out a glaring degree of hypocrisy when the GOP politicians from those states rail on and on about the illegal immigration problem while the big businesses in their state flaunt immigration laws; I have long wanted to see the Congress finally put an end to the pussyfooting around those special interest employers and make them comply with EV; and, to ensure they do comply, make the fines and penalties much higher than they are now...




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[mapuc]

Who me, or us in general? Voter turnout is typically pretty low at something around 65% and a lot of people don’t follow politics until the final couple of months.

Meanwhile there is a conviction in Colorado of an ex county clerk over a 2021 scheme to breach Colorado’s election system.
https://youtu.be/_lsBSBLy5Zc?si=JiGnHB5pjqoDb2N_

Sorry :oops:
Should have written - Are you my American friends familiar.... -

Markus

[Rockstar]

Are you familiar with your preferred party's policy in the various areas, such as domestic policy, foreign policy, etc. ?

Markus

Only thing I care anything about is tightening up the border, federal spending. Drilling for more domestic oil. I also miss those 4 years of relative peace.

[Buddahaid]

https://youtu.be/6Rtp6jcJKd8?si=H7xWx1DGBdzqlydT

[August]

Pennsylvania election fraud cases



2022 Melissa Fisher Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots, Impersonation Fraud At The Polls
2022 Rasheen Edgar Crews Criminal Conviction Ballot Petition Fraud
2022 Cheryl Mihaliak Criminal Conviction Impersonation Fraud At The Polls, Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2022 Michael "Ozzie" Myers Criminal Conviction Altering The Vote Count
2022 Francis Presto Diversion Program Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots, Impersonation Fraud At The Polls
2021 Domenick Demuro Criminal Conviction Altering The Vote Count
2021 Bruce Bartman Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2021Ralph Holloway Thurman Criminal Conviction Impersonation Fraud At The Polls
2021 Robert Richard Lynn Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2019 Harry Sandoe Maxwell Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2018 Dolores Shaw Diversion Program Miscellaneous
2018 Calvin Mattox Criminal Conviction Miscellaneous
2017 Richard Cummings Jr. Diversion Program False Registrations
2016 Cheryl Ali (aka Cheryl Jamison) Criminal Conviction Impersonation Fraud At The Polls
2016 Myron Cowher, Dmitry Kupershmidt Criminal Conviction Altering The Vote Count
2016 Robin Trainor, Laura Murtaugh Criminal Conviction Impersonation Fraud At The Polls
2015 Eugene Gallagher Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2014Richard Allan Toney Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2012 Michael Monaghan Criminal Conviction Ineligible Voting
201 0David Patrick Duffy Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2010 Eric Jones, Alexis Givner, and Mario…Criminal Conviction False Registrations
2009 Jemar Barksdale Criminal Conviction False Registrations
2004 Victor Bernard PinhoCriminal Conviction Duplicate Voting
2004George Edgar Rheam, Jr.Criminal Conviction False Registrations
2003 Mark Cosentino Criminal Conviction False Registrations
2002 Linda Deren Criminal Conviction Ineligible Voting
1999 Austin Murphy Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
1998 James Vadella Criminal Conviction Miscellaneous
1998 Joseph Vadella Criminal Convictio nMiscellaneous 1998 Michael Vadella Criminal Conviction Miscellaneous
1994 Barbara Landers Criminal ConvictionFraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
1994 Ramon Pratt Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
1994-1993 Philadelphia Special Election Judicial Finding Election Overturned, Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots





https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?state=PA

[vienna]

It looks like the GOP/Trump/Vance effort to 'sift boat' Walz is not getting quite the approbation from vets they expected...


'Appalled': Veterans slam Trump campaign's attacks on Tim Walz's military background --

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/13/veterans-defend-tim-walz-military-service/74780851007/



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[vienna]

Pennsylvania election fraud cases



2022 Melissa Fisher Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots, Impersonation Fraud At The Polls 2022 Rasheen Edgar Crews Criminal Conviction Ballot Petition Fraud
2022 Cheryl Mihaliak Criminal Conviction Impersonation Fraud At The Polls, Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2022 Michael "Ozzie" Myers Criminal Conviction Altering The Vote Count
2022 Francis Presto Diversion Program Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots, Impersonation Fraud At The Polls
2021 Domenick Demuro Criminal Conviction Altering The Vote Count
2021 Bruce Bartman Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2021Ralph Holloway Thurman Criminal Conviction Impersonation Fraud At The Polls
2021 Robert Richard Lynn Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2019 Harry Sandoe Maxwell Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2018 Dolores Shaw Diversion Program Miscellaneous
2018 Calvin Mattox Criminal Conviction Miscellaneous
2017 Richard Cummings Jr. Diversion Program False Registrations
2016 Cheryl Ali (aka Cheryl Jamison) Criminal Conviction Impersonation Fraud At The Polls 2016 Myron Cowher, Dmitry Kupershmidt Criminal Conviction Altering The Vote Count
2016 Robin Trainor, Laura Murtaugh Criminal Conviction Impersonation Fraud At The Polls
2015 Eugene Gallagher Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2014Richard Allan Toney Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2012 Michael Monaghan Criminal Conviction Ineligible Voting
201 0David Patrick Duffy Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
2010 Eric Jones, Alexis Givner, and Mario…Criminal Conviction False Registrations
2009 Jemar Barksdale Criminal Conviction False Registrations
2004 Victor Bernard PinhoCriminal Conviction Duplicate Voting
2004George Edgar Rheam, Jr.Criminal Conviction False Registrations
2003 Mark Cosentino Criminal Conviction False Registrations
2002 Linda Deren Criminal Conviction Ineligible Voting
1999 Austin Murphy Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
1998 James Vadella Criminal Conviction Miscellaneous
1998 Joseph Vadella Criminal Convictio nMiscellaneous 1998 Michael Vadella Criminal Conviction Miscellaneous
1994 Barbara Landers Criminal ConvictionFraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
1994 Ramon Pratt Criminal Conviction Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
1994-1993 Philadelphia Special Election Judicial Finding Election Overturned, Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots





https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?state=PA


A nice list; I posted links to that same Heritage.org page a while back when I pointed out that not even that highly vaunted organization could muster up enough incidents to even come near to substantiating "massive voter fraud" nor could they cite a single case of an election, local, state, or national that was adversely or even significantly affected by "massive voter fraud", and I quite sure they are trying their hardest; my original post citing the Hertitage.org tally:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom//showpost.php?p=2909945&postcount=7744


...and my stance on the whole "massive voter fraud" form the above post:




The whole Trump/MAGA/Far Right GOP Dementia about non-existent "widespread voter fraud" is really very silly, stupid, and really very tiresome; in the years since the 2016 Presidential Elections (8 years and counting), no one has yet to present even a shred of definitive evidence any widespread fraud has occurred in th the US, certainly not at any level to overturn Dementia J. Trump's mad ramblings about some sort of steal; in the years since 2016, I have only heard of a few instances, all singular and not any sort of "conspiracy", and no more than a few dozen out of the millions of votes cast; oddly, a lot of the people caught casting illegal votes were GOP voters, some of whom thought they could "prove' the existence of "widespread fraud" by casting their own illegal, singular votes, which, of course, only resulted in the arrest and prosecution of those sad sacks when then existing systems, which apparently really does work without any need for further 'tweaking, caught them in their illegality; some of the others were the usual aberrations (voting for a dead relative, forging someone else's signature, etc.) and still there wasn't enough of those to even have any effect on the various elections since 2016 and 2016 inclusive (there was one case where a recent old widower cast a ballot for his deceased wife because, when he received her ballot in the mail, he felt that mailing it back completed would be his way of keeping her memory alive; I do hope whoever adjudicated his 'offense' cut him some slack)...

...

Common sense and logic should make a few things obvious: a cabal to 'steal' an election on national level would, in today's media climate have leaked like a sieve and come to light; if there was wide fraud in the states, individual states would have most logically have found it and reported it; if there was any verifiable, truthful substance to the fraud claims, it would be in the very interests of the Trump/MAGA/Far Right GOP contingent to make them public and simultaneously vindicate their stance and crush the DEMS and yet they haven't - why not; as far as the media is concerned, mainstream or not, there is no shortage of hungry reporters and investigators who would give an arm and a legs to break a story a s big as verified widespread voter fraud - but there have been no stories- can millions of reporters and investigators seriously be working together to suppress the truth when actually report a big scoop like widespread fraud would make them famous, and most probably rich, beyond their dreams...


Just try using a little thought and common sense and logic; it will all be clear that what Dementia J. Trump is trying to feed you has no thought and common sense or logic...







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[Rockstar]

It looks like the GOP/Trump/Vance effort to 'sift boat' Walz is not getting quite the approbation from vets they expected...


'Appalled': Veterans slam Trump campaign's attacks on Tim Walz's military background --

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/13/veterans-defend-tim-walz-military-service/74780851007/



<O>

I can tell you, not all vets agree. I know many that deployed and one who lost a limb that don’t think all that highly of Walz for skipping out from deployment and they don’t care much for Harris either.

[vienna]

Ok, "I'll bite", as you put it: can you definitively prove the motive for Walz's retirement was specifically in an effort to avoid being deployed to Iraq and not just a soldier, having given 24 years of his life to the military simply wanting to seek other experiences?; further, any specific proof Walz's service was any other than honorable? We're waiting...

There has been ample evidence that Walz had been contemplating his retirement from the military at least a couple of years before turning in his papers and that has been affirmed by others who served in the Guard with him; also, Walz could have mustered out after he did his twenty years, but he chose to reup for another four years when 9/11 happened; somehow, it doesn't sound or seem like the actions of a soldier seeking to avoid combat...

As far as he might have know about the deployment before hand, I again challenge you to provide factual, verifiable evidence to back up such an assertion; anyone who has ever served in the National Guard during wartime knows that rumors of deployment abound in the ranks and a great many of those are just that, rumors...

If JD Vance and his ilk find the only way to aggrandize being a 4 year correspondent (which usually is a staff position, or as they used to say in Vietnam, a REMF) against a soldier who willingly gave up 24 years of his life in service to his country and served honorably, than I'd say that speaks to the fragility of Vance's ego and his tenuous grasp on a semblance of extensive military experience...

Another question to be considered: when Walz retired he was 41 years old; I don't think the US Army would think it would be a good idea to send a middle aged man into combat (and also consider he had already been treated for hearing loss due to his duty in the artillery); Walz would have most likely been posted somewhere away from combat and might not even have been sent with the rest of his unit; it makes more sense to make way for a younger, able-bodied, soldier than to task a guy on the downward side of life's bell curve to do combat duty...

Like I have said in other instances, use common sense and logic; it tends to work better than vile bellicose...




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[Ostfriese]

There has been ample evidence


Who cares about evidence when he can have fake news that say exactly what he wants to hear?

[Onkel Neal]

Are you familiar with your preferred party's policy in the various areas, such as domestic policy, foreign policy, etc. ?

Markus
He's just trolling, he doesn't care to discuss policy. Cause he knows the left doesn't have good policy.

[Buddahaid]

There’s not much point in defending the policies of the Biden Harris administration to those who will never accept how much more successful the current administration has been over the four years of garbage policy from Trump’s failed administration that was run by people who are, or soon will be, felons. There’s a reason many of Trump’s former appointees speak badly of him.

Furthermore, it’s no more my job to defend those policies, than it for those on the right to defend theirs when those policies are questioned in an open politics thread.

I’ve been posting about what I believe are the failures of the once GOP, currently infected by a Trump cult, that can only find its course again when he’s gone and the poisonous hate filled rhetoric and fear mongering gives way to showing how the common citizens, not the wealthiest oligarchs, lives will be better if elected.

[mapuc]

He's just trolling, he doesn't care to discuss policy. Cause he knows the left doesn't have good policy.

My comment wasn't directed towards Buddahaid. My question was directed to you Americans in general.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Ok, "I'll bite", as you put it: can you definitively prove the motive for Walz's retirement was specifically in an effort to avoid being deployed to Iraq and not just a soldier, having given 24 years of his life to the military simply wanting to seek other experiences?; further, any specific proof Walz's service was any other than honorable? We're waiting...

There has been ample evidence that Walz had been contemplating his retirement from the military at least a couple of years before turning in his papers and that has been affirmed by others who served in the Guard with him; also, Walz could have mustered out after he did his twenty years, but he chose to reup for another four years when 9/11 happened; somehow, it doesn't sound or seem like the actions of a soldier seeking to avoid combat...

As far as he might have know about the deployment before hand, I again challenge you to provide factual, verifiable evidence to back up such an assertion; anyone who has ever served in the National Guard during wartime knows that rumors of deployment abound in the ranks and a great many of those are just that, rumors...

If JD Vance and his ilk find the only way to aggrandize being a 4 year correspondent (which usually is a staff position, or as they used to say in Vietnam, a REMF) against a soldier who willingly gave up 24 years of his life in service to his country and served honorably, than I'd say that speaks to the fragility of Vance's ego and his tenuous grasp on a semblance of extensive military experience...

Another question to be considered: when Walz retired he was 41 years old; I don't think the US Army would think it would be a good idea to send a middle aged man into combat (and also consider he had already been treated for hearing loss due to his duty in the artillery); Walz would have most likely been posted somewhere away from combat and might not even have been sent with the rest of his unit; it makes more sense to make way for a younger, able-bodied, soldier than to task a guy on the downward side of life's bell curve to do combat duty...

Like I have said in other instances, use common sense and logic; it tends to work better than vile bellicose...




<O>

Bite on what? Read my posts again.

I stated several pages back I was aware that after twenty 24 years Walz retired to pursue politics. As a veteran myself I really don’t give a rats ass about him either way.

You post a headline ‘…Veterans Slam Trump’ and I’m sure some do. What I am telling you is not all veterans do. I know many who did deploy and one of them that lost a limb who come hell or high water see Walz as skipping out. Take it up with them.

Like I have said in other instances, use common sense and logic; it tends to work better than chit posting and click bait headlines

[AVGWarhawk]

https://youtu.be/6Rtp6jcJKd8?si=H7xWx1DGBdzqlydT

Ultimately the disrupting is on both parties. It needs to stop. No ID. No citizenship. Mail in ballot. All open for fraud.

[AVGWarhawk]

There’s not much point in defending the policies of the Biden Harris administration to those who will never accept how much more successful the current administration has been over the four years of garbage policy from Trump’s failed administration that was run by people who are, or soon will be, felons. There’s a reason many of Trump’s former appointees speak badly of him.

Furthermore, it’s no more my job to defend those policies, than it for those on the right to defend theirs when those policies are questioned in an open politics thread.

I’ve been posting about what I believe are the failures of the once GOP, currently infected by a Trump cult, that can only find its course again when he’s gone and the poisonous hate filled rhetoric and fear mongering gives way to showing how the common citizens, not the wealthiest oligarchs, lives will be better if elected.

Sure, their policies(some) are ok. However, IRA is garbage. The border is a mess. Economy in the tank. This is what voters care about. The infection for the Biden administration is not a policy. It is be woke. Harris et al.

[Jimbuna]

I'd like to think he'd be followed by the folk currently residing in Westminster :)

Donald Trump says he’ll flee to Venezuela if he loses the election

Donald Trump hinted that he might flee to Venezuela if he loses the election this November.

The former president made the comment as part of a fear-mongering prediction during his X interview with Elon Musk on Monday.

“If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela,” Trump said.

He elaborated, explaining that Venezuela — a dictatorship where nearly two dozen people have been killed in crackdowns on political protests — would be far safer than the US if Vice President Kamala Harris wins in 2024.

“We’ll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela,” Trump said, “Because that’s what’s happening—their crime rate’s coming down and our crime rate’s going through the roof.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/donald-trump-says-he-ll-flee-to-venezuela-if-he-loses-the-election/ar-AA1oJUmE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3bc21ab4f7404f5fb0efec0b3c2cb11b&ei=12

[Buddahaid]

Today the failed policies of the Biden administration have the consumer price index falling to 2.9 %. This should trigger interest rates getting lowered.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/08/14/cpi-report-july-inflation-rate-impact/74780318007/

[AVGWarhawk]

Today the failed policies of the Biden administration have the consumer price index falling to 2.9 %. This should trigger interest rates getting lowered.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/08/14/cpi-report-july-inflation-rate-impact/74780318007/

USA Today I use in my cockatiel cage. This "should" trigger lower interest rates. Manipulative headline. It should also save the worlds economy. It should. It should. No sir. It "will" is what people want te read.

[Von Due]

Sometimes I wonder if there are people who truly believe that the POTUS has a control room in the white house, with monitors and a massive control desk with buttons and levers, where he sits and controls the world economy.

[AVGWarhawk]

Sometimes I wonder if there are people who truly believe that the POTUS has a control room in the white house, with monitors and a massive control desk with buttons and levers, where he sits and controls the world economy.

The Wizard of Oz does. :hmmm:

[Rockstar]

Sometimes I wonder if there are people who truly believe that the POTUS has a control room in the white house, with monitors and a massive control desk with buttons and levers, where he sits and controls the world economy.

;)

https://y.yarn.co/ea3fd0e0-d478-47b3-9353-24449ab7a00e_text.gif

[Von Due]

Want to find those who run the world's economy? Try the board rooms in the US, in China, in France, in Germany, in Russia, in Azerbaijan, anywhere. Try the military headquarters allover the world where wars are planned. Try the sharks at Wall Street or any other stock exchange. Try natural disasters affecting production. Try the US Congress. Any president is just a pawn in a very big game.

[Buddahaid]

USA Today I use in my cockatiel cage. This "should" trigger lower interest rates. Manipulative headline. It should also save the worlds economy. It should. It should. No sir. It "will" is what people want te read.

Fine, let's go to the source.
https://www.bls.gov/cpi/

[August]

USA Today I use in my cockatiel cage. This "should" trigger lower interest rates. Manipulative headline. It should also save the worlds economy. It should. It should. No sir. It "will" is what people want read.


Even if it did it still doesn't eliminate the huge surge in prices that we have already been hit with. It would just slow the rate of further increases. Whoop-de-do. From what I see the price of groceries has gone up about 40%. Saying that future increases might not be as drastic is scant comfort.

[AVGWarhawk]

Fine, let's go to the source.
https://www.bls.gov/cpi/

The statistic was not in question. The "should" is.

[Buddahaid]

Even if it did it still doesn't eliminate the huge surge in prices that we have already been hit with. It would just slow the rate of further increases. Whoop-de-do. From what I see the price of groceries has gone up about 40%. Saying that future increases might not be as drastic is scant comfort.

If you look at the bls statistics, you'll see that the largest contributor to inflation is housing or rent increases if you will. Who controls that in the White House?

[Buddahaid]

The statistic was not in question. The "should" is.

You didn't even read the bls report which explains exactly why and projects a when in September at the current trending.

[mapuc]

Seem like you American are heading for the judgement day.

Whether you vote Harris or Trump judgement day is upon you.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Even if it did it still doesn't eliminate the huge surge in prices that we have already been hit with. It would just slow the rate of further increases. Whoop-de-do. From what I see the price of groceries has gone up about 40%. Saying that future increases might not be as drastic is scant comfort.

Same spin being fed to the masses here in the UK

[August]

If you look at the bls statistics, you'll see that the largest contributor to inflation is housing or rent increases if you will. Who controls that in the White House?


I was talking about the cost of groceries and fuel but regardless inflation causes housing/rent increases it's not the other way around. Another big factor controlling housing costs are lending rate increases. Guess who controls that?


Why is housing in Boston so expensive?


Experts say local policies, high interest rates, and a lack of supply drive up costs.


https://www.boston.com/real-estate/local-news/2024/07/22/why-is-housing-in-boston-so-expensive/

[AVGWarhawk]

You didn't even read the bls report which explains exactly why and projects a when in September at the current trending.

No need to read the report. The media using should is something they need to stop. Either it will or it won't. Hard fact. Something that eludes the media time and time again.

[AVGWarhawk]

I was talking about the cost of groceries and fuel but regardless inflation causes housing/rent increases it's not the other way around. Another big factor controlling housing costs are lending rate increases. Guess who controls that?





https://www.boston.com/real-estate/local-news/2024/07/22/why-is-housing-in-boston-so-expensive/

The latest reason in shortages of home is placed on the Boomers. They are retiring in place and not selling their huge homes to live in an apartment. Just nonsense. Whatever gets you through your day I guess.

[Buddahaid]

The latest reason in shortages of home is placed on the Boomers. They are retiring in place and not selling their huge homes to live in an apartment. Just nonsense. Whatever gets you through your day I guess.

I'm a boomer and my huge house is 800 square feet, and I've worked my entire life since I had a paper route, but if it makes you happy, I just retired yesterday at 68 after having a mild stroke on July 4th.

So, when do you propose, seniors start getting turned into soilent green?

[AVGWarhawk]

Why do they let Joe out at all?

https://youtu.be/OYv9hjTjwwA?si=fuggw795d9VLxaBP

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm a boomer and my huge house is 800 square feet, and I've worked my entire life since I had a paper route, but if it makes you happy, I just retired yesterday at 68 after having a mild stroke on July 4th.

So, when do you propose, seniors start getting turned into soilent green?

Budda, I'm one year shy of Boomer status. But that makes no difference. I lived and worked with Boomers all my life. They tend to rub off on you. I too have worked my entire life. At 59 I'm still working and diagnosed with prostate cancer this year. Not sure what your trying to say.

I made a point that a few are blaming Boomers for housing shortages because they will not sell and move to a condo or similar. They are retiring in place as they should if they can afford it. My wife and I have a 4 bedroom home with pool. Our daughters are out doing their thing. We have no desire to sell our home. We will retire in place.

In short, just something the millennials are blaming on Boomer.

Happy retirement.

[Buddahaid]

I apologize, I felt you were blaming boomers yourself.

[Rockstar]

If you look at the bls statistics, you'll see that the largest contributor to inflation is housing or rent increases if you will. Who controls that in the White House?

The largest contributor to inflation is government spending financed by an increase in the money supply. This causes more money in circulation to chase after the same amount of goods.

Probably followed by fractional reserve bank lending and counterfeiting

[AVGWarhawk]

I apologize, I felt you were blaming boomers yourself.

No sir. Just utter nonsense what some come up with. This is one of them.

[Buddahaid]

Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/live/oDX7VRRSe38?si=XKrVNIeNJoZfbvji

[AVGWarhawk]

Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/live/oDX7VRRSe38?si=XKrVNIeNJoZfbvji

The first 5 seconds....MAGA propaganda. We will however ignore the Dem and media propaganda. :doh:

[Buddahaid]

Ron Filipkowski was a republican and still would be without Trump’s hand on the wheel of the MAGA clown car.

[AVGWarhawk]

Ron Filipkowski was a republican and still would be without Trump’s hand on the wheel of the MAGA clown car.

It doesn't belay the fact they sidestep media and Dems propaganda.

[August]

Jeff Van Drew was a Democrat and still would be if the Democrats hadn't demanded that he support their false impeachments of President Trump. He subsequently managed to win reelection and will probably win again in November.

[Buddahaid]

Trump’s campaigning still owes hundreds of thousands of dollars to cities. What a deadbeat.
https://kfoxtv.com/amp/news/local/trumps-campaign-still-owes-el-paso-over-500k-for-2019-rally-other-cities-also-unpaid

[AVGWarhawk]

Trump’s campaigning still owes hundreds of thousands of dollars to cities. What a deadbeat.
https://kfoxtv.com/amp/news/local/trumps-campaign-still-owes-el-paso-over-500k-for-2019-rally-other-cities-also-unpaid

It's truly astonishing how these things just crop up months before an election. Soon we will her Trump groped the entire Dallas Cowboys cheerleader squad in 1986.

As a side note, Walz military recorded is still a hot topic. I did not think it would be. He is now offering a FORCEFUL defense of his record. That is fine. It is the lying that is the issue.

" Amid attacks from the Trump-Vance camp on his military service, Tim Walz offered what was being called a "forceful" defense of his record at his first solo campaign stop Tuesday. The Minnesota governor and running mate of Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris appeared at the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees convention in Los Angeles, where he addressed the criticism for the first time publicly, Politico reports. "I'm going to say it again as clearly as I can: I am damn proud of my service to this country, and I firmly believe you should never denigrate another person's service record," Walz said, per CNN."

[Reece]

Soon we will her Trump groped the entire Dallas Cowboys cheerleader squad in 1986.

Did he? :hmmm: I never knew that! :oops: What a wicked boy!! :o:D

[Buddahaid]

Did he? :hmmm: I never knew that! :oops: What a wicked boy!! :o:D

Yeah but they were only 14 yo then….

[vienna]

Yeah but they were only 14 yo then….

So. Jeffery Epstein was with him, then...?...



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.

[August]

Yeah but they were only 14 yo then….



It's common knowledge that Democrats tend to project their own behavior upon others you know. :03:

[Buddahaid]

“NY AG Letitia James scoring a huge win against one of the corrupt former NRA leaders, Wayne LaPierre, and requiring him to pay back over $4 million dollars in embezzled funds back to the NRA.”
https://youtu.be/O3QEobGh1O0?si=SzNNAtoEm51awC6G

[AVGWarhawk]

Harris ties her own hands with $400,000 tax pledge. Current Trump era tax plan will expire. Harris said she will not raise taxes on those making $400k or less. More than likely as governors do is make a new tax or call the increase in taxes a fee. Not really a tax. It's just a fee. A favorite of Gov Paymoore. Democrat MD.

[AVGWarhawk]

Yeah but they were only 14 yo then….

Your thinking of Biden.

[August]

Your thinking of Biden.


Ah the leader of the Democrats, old Pedo Joe the kid sniffer.

[Reece]

:o :k_confused:

[AVGWarhawk]

Ah the leader of the Democrats, old Pedo Joe the kid sniffer.

Yep. Sometimes mud slinging does not work out so well.

[Buddahaid]

https://youtu.be/svZRSvMNcCw?si=Wb2-TLfKPHBlDXG-

[AVGWarhawk]

https://youtu.be/svZRSvMNcCw?si=Wb2-TLfKPHBlDXG-

Good Lord. The list of Democrats and liberal associates with this guy is long and numerous. Not a good look for any of them.

Not to worry. Kamala blasted Epstein. Then took money from his law firm.

[Buddahaid]

https://youtu.be/INy7CgZd6Hg?si=tIfy3tTu0dl6vOsb

[AVGWarhawk]

It appears deviance runs deep in our government:

90 state lawmakers accused of sexual misconduct since 2017

https://apnews.com/article/a3377d14856e4f4fb584509963a7a223

[August]

I understand that Trump flew on a jet owned by Epstein from Palm Beach to New York city a few times. Does that really compare to Democrat Bill Clintons repeated visits to Epsteins child rape island?

[Buddahaid]

Bill Clinton isn’t running for office.

[AVGWarhawk]

Bill Clinton isn’t running for office.

Running from Hillary! :har::haha: Could not resist!

[August]

https://youtu.be/INy7CgZd6Hg?si=tIfy3tTu0dl6vOsb


Yet another failed Democrat attempt to frame an opposition party politician.


God help your side if the Repubes ever decide to start fighting fire with fire. Half your politicians would end up in jail and the other half would be trying to make plea deals to stay out of it.

[Buddahaid]

Repubes? Was that a Freudian slip?

What do you call the two years of failed Biden impeachment hearings?

Why do you think the DOJ uses special prosecutors since Nixon?

Why are State AGs that have nothing to do with the DOJ having their own indictments?

https://youtu.be/ICfiWyhLk20?si=CP8BCQpMOXsV7dnu

[August]

Matt Gaetz was falsely accused. Go on admit it.

Democrat AGs take their marching orders from the Democrat party. That is obvious to anyone who doesn't have party blinders firmly stapled to his head.

[Buddahaid]

Matt Gaetz was falsely accused. Go on admit it.

Democrat AGs take their marching orders from the Democrat party. That is obvious to anyone who doesn't have party blinders firmly stapled to his head.

Is that why Gaetz's wingman is now in prison? Some Repubes have had maxipads stapled to their ears so they can't hear their hypocrisy.

[AVGWarhawk]

Is that why Gaetz's wingman is now in prison? Some Repubes have had maxipads stapled to their ears so they can't hear their hypocrisy.

Thanks to Walz they can get the maxipads in the men's room. :doh:

[vienna]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3rbHEz8hXnw&pp=ygUPc3RlcGhlbiBjb2xiZXJ0




<O>

[August]

Is that why Gaetz's wingman is now in prison? Some Repubes have had maxipads stapled to their ears so they can't hear their hypocrisy.


His "wingman"? Is that an official government position and what does it have to do with Gaetz?

[Jimbuna]

Running from Hillary! :har::haha: Could not resist!

Humour on this thread is always a welcome commodity :yeah:

[Buddahaid]

Looks like Palm Beach residents and business owners are upset with a main feeder road now closed by the USSS to protect Trump and it will force a decision to either open the road or close Mar-a-lago..
https://youtu.be/H0k17Adhqec?si=ymdScAv0JCCVSGhg

[mapuc]

As said before I have a couple of pro-Democrats among my American friends on FB.

Here is what she posted some hours ago

Markus

[Rockstar]

Kamala Harris Suggests Americans Struggling To Make Ends Meet Just Try Sleeping With Their Boss

POLITICS Aug 15, 2024

WASHINGTON, D.C. — In an uplifting, inspiring address to the American people, Vice-President Kamala Harris offered a valuable bit of advice to American citizens struggling to put food on the table: just try sleeping with your boss.

https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/66be211c9af8766be211c9af88.jpg

While Kamala refused to elaborate on her pearl of wisdom for the everyday American, she did go on record by saying that it "worked for me every time."

"So if we examine the passage of time in making ends meet, we can see that the easiest solution is to just try sleeping around with your boss," Kamala explained, cackling at every pause for breath. "HAHAHAHA! It works every time — and there's great significance to the passage of every time. Sleeping with your boss is very simple: you just sleep with them in order to make ends meet. That way your ends will meet. There is great significance to making ends meet. HAHAHAHA!!"

While several political commentators have compared Kamala's advice to Marie Antoinette's infamous "Let them eat cake," most mainstream media outlets have thoroughly debunked this far-right conspiracy theory with the irrefutable observation that "Kamala never told anyone to eat cake — she just advised sleeping around."

At publishing time, Kamala Harris had also suggested that Americans who are struggling financially should just try getting hired in a better job as DEI picks.

[August]

Who said the Soviet Union was dead?

Kamala Harris to Announce Soviet-Style Price Controls on Food Under Guise of ‘Gouging Ban’

Soviet-style centrally administered price controls on food and grocery prices will form part of the federal economic proposals U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris will unveil Friday when she finally delivers an insight into her 2024 policies.

Time magazine reports (https://time.com/7011214/kamala-harris-campaign-federal-ban-price-gouging-food-groceries-inflation/)Harris plans to direct the Federal Trade Commission and other agencies to investigate and penalize “big corporations” that violate government rules in a mirror of Soviet command economy diktats.
Other ways of tackling price fixing and selective anti-competitive practices in the food and grocery industries will also come under scrutiny, her campaign said by way of previewing her full set of economic proposals.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/15/kamala-harris-to-announce-soviet-style-price-controls-on-food-under-guise-of-gouging-ban/

[Rockstar]

Who said the Soviet Union was dead?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/15/kamala-harris-to-announce-soviet-style-price-controls-on-food-under-guise-of-gouging-ban/



Question: “What will happen when Socialism comes to the Sahara?”

Answer: “Nothing for 50 years, and then there will be a shortage of sand.”

[Buddahaid]

Well Trump's presser today that was supposed to about the economy was again mostly the same tired whiny crap he pushes at his rallies although he did say that over 100% of the job creation under Biden went to migrants. :har:

He is over the edge.

[AVGWarhawk]

Secret Service agent leaves post to breastfeed. Trump rally NC.

Honestly, after the attempt on Trump this is how the Secret Service tighten security?

[Rockstar]

Well Harris’s presser today that was supposed to about the economy was again mostly the same tired whiny crap she pushes at her rallies although she did say that none of the job creation under Biden went to migrants.

She’s is over the edge.

https://i.ibb.co/RyDFw2v/IMG-0283.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Well Trump's presser today that was supposed to about the economy was again mostly the same tired whiny crap he pushes at his rallies although he did say that over 100% of the job creation under Biden went to migrants. :har:

He is over the edge.

He really cannot stay on point. Nevermind staying in track. But this is classic Trump. Why is anyone surprised by this? It's like classic Biden. Another rendition of his son and untimely death. Cornpop the bad dude. He used to drive a truck just after quitting his airline pilot job.

[Rockstar]

ICE Buffalo has arrested a Peruvian gang leader in the State of New York who is wanted for 23 murders in Peru.

He crossed the border illegally and was then released by the border Czar Kamala Harris

A few weeks later they realized that he’s wanted for nearly 2 dozen murders

[Buddahaid]

He really cannot stay on point. Nevermind staying in track. But this is classic Trump. Why is anyone surprised by this? It's like classic Biden. Another rendition of his son and untimely death. Cornpop the bad dude. He used to drive a truck just after quitting his airline pilot job.

Maybe so but classic Trump isn’t going to work anymore.

[Buddahaid]

ICE Buffalo has arrested a Peruvian gang leader in the State of New York who is wanted for 23 murders in Peru.

He crossed the border illegally and was then released by the border Czar Kamala Harris

A few weeks later they realized that he’s wanted for nearly 2 dozen murders

Nobody’s arguing that there are no illegals in the country that commit crimes. The argument is it’s not anywhere close to citizen crime rate.

[AVGWarhawk]

Maybe so but classic Trump isn’t going to work anymore.

Very true. But neither is flipping her script. This will not work for many. Currently Harris' rally is nothing short of a frat house party. The media has turned Harris, the lowest approved VP in the history of the USA, into the golden child overnight. See the power of the media to drive the narrative? After the DNC it is time for Harris to clean up/explain her less than stellar record over her career. Explain her flipping without looking like it is only for gaining votes from moderates/independents.

And, I understand Biden is quite pissed at Pelosi and Obama for pushing him out. But how nice of Nancy to say Biden belongs on Mt Rushmore because he is that kind of president? Really Nancy? Is this how make Joe feel better about being pressured to drop out?

[AVGWarhawk]

Nobody’s arguing that there are no illegals in the country that commit crimes. The argument is it’s not anywhere close to citizen crime rate.

What hell does it matter? Is it like being a little bit pregnant? They are not supposed to be here killing people.

[Jimbuna]

Secret Service bolsters Trump's security by pulling agents from Biden

The Secret Service has bolstered Donald's Trump's security by pulling agents from Joe Biden's protection team following the assassination attempt on the former president last month. The new plan has been approved to allow Trump to continue campaigning at outdoor rallies after a gunman fired multiple shots at him on July 13, according to reports.

The Secret Service will also use a bulletproof glass to shield Trump, as well as other technical security measures that are not normally been provided for presidential candidates.

An unidentified Secret Service official was cited in the New York Times as saying the reassignment of members of a president's team to a candidate is 'unusual'. But they added that the recent threat of violence against Trump and Biden's reduced travel schedule made the move 'necessary and feasible'.

The use of bulletproof glass is also a major step up in security measures with such protection usually only reserved for presidents and vice-presidents at outdoor events. Spokespersons from the White House and Trump's campaign made no immediate comment on the claims.

Trump has not appeared at an outdoor rally since the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, which is being considered the most serious since President Ronald Reagan was shot and nearly killed in 1981.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/secret-service-bolsters-trump-s-security-by-pulling-agents-from-biden/ss-AA1oUuit?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=613392098c764bb59043cfd4d0a73a55&ei=31#image=1

[AVGWarhawk]

Secret Service bolsters Trump's security by pulling agents from Biden

Yet an agent went to breast feed while on Trumps security detail at a rally in NC.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/secret-service-agent-abandoned-post-guarding-trump-to-breastfeed-report/ar-AA1oRjcE

[Jimbuna]

Yet an agent went to breast feed while on Trumps security detail at a rally in NC.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/secret-service-agent-abandoned-post-guarding-trump-to-breastfeed-report/ar-AA1oRjcE

Yeah so I believe :)

[Rockstar]

Nobody’s arguing that there are no illegals in the country that commit crimes. The argument is it’s not anywhere close to citizen crime rate.

Nobody is arguing murder rates. The argument is even the illegals we do catch are not vetted before being allowed entry.

We used to do that you know, I know because my grandparents were immigrants, my adopted daughter is an immigrant, and I used to spend days interviewing asylum seekers BEFORE they were allowed entry and the vast majority were denied because they did not meet the criteria for asylum. But there are so many people freely crossing the border our system of governance is overloaded and unable to keep up.

Which I can almost guarantee is also the cause of out break of infectious disease like measles cropping up in sanctuary cities. Mpox and others is just around the corner imo.

And of course more tax payer dollars spent on housing & feeding them. Which is contrary what my grandfather did. He had to have a sponsor his brother Torvald had to meet him then went to the Dakotas and immediately found a job to earn his keep.

[AVGWarhawk]

https://img.ifunny.co/images/0041a54c269865c9f24cd5e9736f4351d3773253912414cdfe 72be2e33b91952_1.jpg

[Buddahaid]

^^
I believe that!

[AVGWarhawk]

Sheesh...Trump may be classic Trump with his ramblings but this takes the cake. Scripted. The debates should be interesting off script. We expect both to be off script. The Donald never had a script. So there is that.


https://youtu.be/0hYa4AoHs78?si=lnW4jcJAvkZ3T1mE

[August]

Nobody is arguing murder rates. The argument is even the illegals we do catch are not vetted before being allowed entry.

We used to do that, I know because my grandparents are immigrants my adopted daughter is an immigrant, and I used to spend days interviewing asylum seekers BEFORE they were allowed entry and the vast majority were denied because they did not meet the criteria for asylum. But there are so many people freely crossing the border our system of governance has been overloaded and unable to keep up.

Which I can almost guarantee is also the cause of out break of infectious disease like measles cropping up in sanctuary cities. Mpox and others is just around the corner imo.

And of course more tax payer dollars spent on housing & feeding them. Which is contrary what my grandfather did. He had to have a sponsor his brother Torvald meet him, went to the Dakotas and immediately found a job to earn his keep.


It's all that AND the crimes that illegal aliens commit. Doesn't matter what the rates are comparable to, they aren't supposed to be here to commit any crimes at all.

[Rockstar]

It's all that AND the crimes that illegal aliens commit. Doesn't matter what the rates are comparable to, they aren't supposed to be here to commit any crimes at all.

True words, we should be able evaluate all immigrants BEFORE entry. No sense in adding to existing problems.

I’m sure buddahaid is hoping Euros will support his trolls. But they’re to busy building walls and fences themselves to stop the onslaught. Lol

[Buddahaid]

Who’s trolling now?

[Rockstar]

Who’s trolling now?


It’s still you

Im just pointing it out in case you didn’t notice when it comes to a euros opinion on our immigration policy how quiet it’s gotten around here.

[Buddahaid]

It’s still you

Im just pointing it out in case you didn’t notice when it comes to a euros opinion on our immigration policy how quiet it’s gotten around here.
Having different opinions than yours isn’t trolling.

Trump apparently fully well knows all about Project 3025.
https://youtu.be/284OgviS_kY?si=zb7On5DhX4UCdTnu

[Rockstar]

Having different opinions than yours isn’t trolling.

Trump apparently fully well knows all about Project 3025.
https://youtu.be/284OgviS_kY?si=zb7On5DhX4UCdTnu

Whatever :roll: I find it amusing that it’s always the same two angry old geezers from California with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel always trolling & talking smack.

[AVGWarhawk]

I be trolling. They be hating.

[Buddahaid]

Here’s the timeline for Walz’s retirement which should shut up the complaints.
https://youtu.be/FnKzUA8uhrw?si=POvkDrIbOx4SJng9

[mapuc]

I didn't knew that standing for his right and his right to promote the Dems was called trolling.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

And here’s a report on Harris’s economic policy.
https://meidasnews.com/news/kamala-harris-rolls-out-economic-policy-agenda

[AVGWarhawk]

Here’s the timeline for Walz’s retirement which should shut up the complaints.

Like I stated when Walz was selected. His military record and retirement passed the sniff test when running for Governor. I don't see his record being a issue here.

The real issue is revisionist career and policy of Harris. Here voting record is enough evidence she is far left. She is playing the voting public with her sudden change of mind. In fact, she should be on the Republican ticket.

[August]

Like I stated when Walz was selected. His military record and retirement passed the sniff test when running for Governor. I don't see his record being a issue here.

The real issue is revisionist career and policy of Harris. Here voting record is enough evidence she is far left. She is playing the voting public with her sudden change of mind. In fact, she should be on the Republican ticket.

The sniff test for state office is cursory compared to that at the national level and his false valor claims were made mainly after he was elected to to office.

His voting record is as far left as Kamalalamas.

[mapuc]

It sounds like it would be the end of US democracy as we know it, if Harris win the election. I guess that she will continue Biden's politics.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

It sounds like it would be the end of US democracy as we know it, if Harris win the election. I guess that she will continue Biden's politics.

Markus

She is going full communist. She is stopping price gouging at the grocery store. Her wonderful economic plan. The beginning of food control. Communist.

[Buddahaid]

She is going full communist. She is stopping price gouging at the grocery store. Her wonderful economic plan. The beginning of food control. Communist.

I disagree. What passes for getting called communist nowadays by the right is very centrist. The problem as I see it is the right has been trying so hard to outright each other for so long they're at risk of falling off the edge of the world. :hmmm::shucks:

[Rockstar]

I didn't knew that standing for his right and his right to promote the Dems was called trolling.

Markus

It’s has nothing to do with rights. The problem is argument is the process by which the problem is solved to the degree that it can be solved. Buddahaid avoids responding to others arguments like the plague. But it’s easy to see what buddahaid agrees with because he doesn't present a counter argument to thought out post. He just throws out more off topic schitposts.

I figure he just lonely and wants attention

[Buddahaid]

It’s has nothing to do with rights. The problem is argument is the process by which the problem is solved to the degree that it can be solved. Buddahaid avoids responding to others arguments like the plague. But it’s easy to see what buddahaid agrees with because he doesn't present a counter argument to thought out post. He just throws out more off topic schitposts.

I figure he just lonely and wants attention

Look in a mirror my herobot friend.

[Rockstar]

Look in a mirror my herobot friend.

I do everyday and like what I see brother.

Don’t think happiness will be possible only when conditions around you become perfect. Happiness lies in your own heart. - Thich Nhat Hahn

[AVGWarhawk]

I disagree. What passes for getting called communist nowadays by the right is very centrist. The problem as I see it is the right has been trying so hard to outright each other for so long they're at risk of falling off the edge of the world. :hmmm::shucks:

The question remains. Why didn't she suggest to Joe stopping of price gouging? Budda, she has spent 4 years doing nothing. Now she wants to fix it all now?

I will give kudos to Biden with reduced medication costs for some. Going after frivolous fees from various institutions. Harris has done nothing.

[mapuc]

Are you planning on moving out ? The latest polls, shown here in the news yesterday showed that Harris would win with 47 % over Trumps 43 %

I presume other polls are showing the opposite.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

The question remains. Why didn't she suggest to Joe stopping of price gouging? Budda, she has spent 4 years doing nothing. Now she wants to fix it all now?

I will give kudos to Biden with reduced medication costs for some. Going after frivolous fees from various institutions. Harris has done nothing.

I think that going after price gouging was brought up before Biden withdrew but I'll need to check.

[Buddahaid]

I do everyday and like what I see brother.

Don’t think happiness will be possible only when conditions around you become perfect. Happiness lies in your own heart. - Thich Nhat Hahn

And arguing with you is typically a waste of time since you have such a magnificent opinion of yourself, and your viewpoints, to the point of laying down several :har::har::har: when you bless us with your superior logic. I recall you are the one that's been brigged before.

[Rockstar]

And arguing with you is typically a waste of time since you have such a magnificent opinion of yourself, and your viewpoints, to the point of laying down several :har::har::har: when you bless us with your superior logic. I recall you are the one that's been brigged before.

Truth hurts don’t it? I suspect that’s why you now focus on my posts calling you out instead of the one about my experience concerning immigration.

As a troll you don’t give a sheet about commenting on current problems or others concerns you thrive on the attention given to your contentious schitposts.

[AVGWarhawk]

I think that going after price gouging was brought up before Biden withdrew but I'll need to check..

He was going after frivolous fees. Taylor Swift tickets purchased from third party companies that drill your wallet with fees. Fees like this.

[Buddahaid]

Truth hurts don’t it? I suspect that’s why you now focus on my posts calling you out instead of the one about my experience concerning immigration.

As a troll you don’t give a sheet about commenting on current problems or others concerns you thrive on the attention given to your contentious schitposts.

Thank you for pointing that out, you're right. How could I have been so stupid.

[Buddahaid]

.

He was going after frivolous fees. Taylor Swift tickets purchased from third party companies that drill your wallet with fees. Fees like this.

Looks like May 2024. Still digging.
https://thehill.com/business/4507871-biden-strike-force-price-gouging-junk-fees-inflation/amp/

[AVGWarhawk]

Looks like May 2024. Still digging.
https://thehill.com/business/4507871-biden-strike-force-price-gouging-junk-fees-inflation/amp/

I'm not sure he got much done. I think a better part of the last 2 years Joe was being propped up so plans for the upcoming election could be made. Joe was never really part of the plan. Just a figurehead. Personally, I find it shameful Jill chose party over her husband. I'm sure in her mind she envisioned herself as Eleonore Roosevelt.

[AVGWarhawk]

Serving up baloney!! Is this really your brain child, Harris?




https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/baloney-in-aisle-seven-as-kamala-harris-takes-on-big-grocery/ar-AA1oWj3S?ocid=emmx-mmx-feeds&PC=EMMX01

[Jimbuna]

JD Vance and Tim Walz agree 1 October VP debate

Vice-presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz have agreed to a debate on 1 October.

CBS said the debate in New York would be moderated by journalists Norah O'Donnell and Margaret Brennan, adding: "We look forward to... providing voters with an opportunity to hear directly from the vice-presidential candidates."

"See you on October 1, JD," Kamala Harris's running mate Mr Walz posted on X on Wednesday.

Mr Vance, Donald Trump's running mate, then on Thursday announced his agreement to the October date.

In his X post, Mr Vance challenged Mr Walz to a separate CNN debate on 18 September.

"I look forward to seeing you at both!" Mr Vance posted on X.

Mr Walz has not yet commented on the possibility of a second meet up.

Trump and Ms Harris, meanwhile, have agreed to a debate on ABC on 10 September.

"I am looking forward to debating Donald Trump," Ms Harris said last week. "I hear he’s finally committed to it and I’m looking forward to it."

Trump had initially said he would only debate his opponent on Fox News. Ms Harris rejected those conditions, arguing that the Trump campaign had already agreed to ABC when it was presumed Joe Biden would be the Democratic nominee.

During a press conference last week, Trump said: "We think we should do three debates", and suggested two additional debates against Ms Harris that he said would be hosted by Fox News and NBC.

The Harris campaign has not specifically commented on the other two debates proposed by Trump.

Ms Harris has said she would be open to additional dates, though her campaign said last week that "Trump has to show up" to the ABC debate before they confirm any further showdowns.

NBC News is reportedly in discussions with both campaigns about a potential debate this autumn, the New York Times reported.

Mr Biden's poor debate performance against Trump in June triggered the crisis over his candidacy that ultimately led to calls for him to drop out of the race ahead of November's election.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ge0ggk28lo

[Buddahaid]

Trump steps in it again with his complete lack of control.

"These asinine comments not only diminish the significance of our nation’s highest award for valor, but also crassly characterizes the sacrifices of those who have risked their lives above and beyond the call of duty," VFW National Commander Al Lipphardt

https://meidasnews.com/news/veterans-of-foreign-wars-torches-donald-trump-over-medal-of-honor-comments

[Buddahaid]

Michael Cohen, who was Trump’s political prisoner in solitary confinement for sixteen days after refusing to silence his criticism of Trump and sign an NDA as a condition for his Covid home release has sued the government for his civil liberties violations. A group of right-wing lawyers and leaders including a founding trustee of the Heritage Foundation have filed an amicus brief to the SCOTUS in support of Cohen.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23A1061/311712/20240524175557092_23A-%20Application.pdf

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-41/322414/20240814112149221_24-41%20Cert%20of%20Word%20Count.pdf

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-41/322414/20240814112142991_24-41%20Amicus%20Brief.pdf

[AVGWarhawk]

Give me a break. Selling snake oil. This is like a HS class president election. I promise coke machines in every classroom and 3 hours leisure time during the school day. She will say anything to get a vote. Then do none of it.

"Vice President Kamala Harris shared a plan to build 3 million new homes in her first policy speech.
Housing experts told Business Insider that targeting America's housing supply shortage is critical.
The experts were more lukewarm on some of the other housing proposals and want to see more details.
Vice President Kamala Harris' newest housing proposal is giving YIMBY — and that's great news for the housing market, where supply has been unable to keep pace with demand, forcing prices up and buyers out."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/kamala-harris-is-going-full-yimby-and-housing-experts-are-optimistic/ar-AA1oWuz1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ACTS&cvid=26a485fdf864466c821b34f1276f94ec&ei=12

[AVGWarhawk]

Trump steps in it again with his complete lack of control.

"These asinine comments not only diminish the significance of our nation’s highest award for valor, but also crassly characterizes the sacrifices of those who have risked their lives above and beyond the call of duty," VFW National Commander Al Lipphardt

https://meidasnews.com/news/veterans-of-foreign-wars-torches-donald-trump-over-medal-of-honor-comments

See JD Vances response. The media is full on stupid and twist things to their liking. Enough said.

[Buddahaid]

See JD Vances response. The media is full on stupid and twist things to their liking. Enough said.

I don't care about JD Vance interpreting Trump speak but I am looking forward to the debate with Walz.

[Jimbuna]

Trump steps in it again with his complete lack of control.

"These asinine comments not only diminish the significance of our nation’s highest award for valor, but also crassly characterizes the sacrifices of those who have risked their lives above and beyond the call of duty," VFW National Commander Al Lipphardt

https://meidasnews.com/news/veterans-of-foreign-wars-torches-donald-trump-over-medal-of-honor-comments

These people do realise the eyes of the world are on them don't they?

[AVGWarhawk]

I don't care about JD Vance interpreting Trump speak but I am looking forward to the debate with Walz.

I think Walz will be on the losing end.

[AVGWarhawk]

You support Harris and Walz. Tell me why without mentioning Trump and Vance.

If you tell me policy, she has none until yesterday.

[mapuc]

You support Harris and Walz. Tell me why without mentioning Trump and Vance.

If you tell me policy, she has none until yesterday.

Could it be because she's going to continue Bidens politics domestic and foreign ?

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Could it be because she's going to continue Bidens politics domestic and foreign ?

Markus

Who wants another 4 years of what we endured?

[Buddahaid]

You support Harris and Walz. Tell me why without mentioning Trump and Vance.

If you tell me policy, she has none until yesterday.

Because I think it’s better policy. I don’t have to defend it to your liking.

[AVGWarhawk]

Because I think it’s better policy. I don’t have to defend it to your liking.

She had NO policy until yesterday. Price fixing is not policy. It's communism. What policies are better? She basically is looking like a Republican with her flip flop.

Anyone but Trump is your policy.

[mapuc]

Anyone but Trump is your policy.

I think millions of Americans have this motto: Anything than Trump

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

I think millions of Americans have this motto: Anything than Trump

Markus

True.

[Armistead]

She is going full communist. She is stopping price gouging at the grocery store. Her wonderful economic plan. The beginning of food control. Communist. During COVID, several bills regarding price gouging where brought up, but none were ever passed into law. Course both Feds and states have general laws already and stricter laws during emergencies to deal with it. It's interesting, with so much of it claimed govt investigations have every found little to do with it. States sometimes find it during emergencies at a more local level, ya know, some bum that owns a corner store way rural charging $10 for a gallon of gas. Harris doesn't seem to grasp how economics work and where the cost arise, mainly energy and supply and demand. Imagine a lot more regulations companies have to comply with and prove they're innocent of price gouging would only increase cost. It's much how Dems pushed the mass of private doctors into large profit driven corporate conglomerates with a mass of regulations and high insurance cost. They cause the problem, then complain of the outcome and want to fix it by causing more problems, like socialist govt ran healthcare. It's like the new public restroom model in San Diego, designed 'gender neutral' and for climate change. A mere 400 sq ft at 2 million bucks. Harris isn't proposing anything new, this is the Cali model coming at a national level. With Cali already seeing negative migration and businesses fleeing, if she could get her plans through nationally, where are we to go? Will Mexico build a wall to keep us out? Course her fix will again be more govt control, AKA socialism. Course the likelihood of her getting any of this through congress is not likely.

[AVGWarhawk]

During COVID, several bills regarding price gouging where brought up, but none were ever passed into law. Course both Feds and states have general laws already and stricter laws during emergencies to deal with it. It's interesting, with so much of it claimed govt investigations have every found little to do with it. States sometimes find it during emergencies at a more local level, ya know, some bum that owns a corner store way rural charging $10 for a gallon of gas. Harris doesn't seem to grasp how economics work and where the cost arise, mainly energy and supply and demand. Imagine a lot more regulations companies have to comply with and prove they're innocent of price gouging would only increase cost. It's much how Dems pushed the mass of private doctors into large profit driven corporate conglomerates with a mass of regulations and high insurance cost. They cause the problem, then complain of the outcome and want to fix it by causing more problems, like socialist govt ran healthcare. It's like the new public restroom model in San Diego, designed 'gender neutral' and for climate change. A mere 400 sq ft at 2 million bucks. Harris isn't proposing anything new, this is the Cali model coming at a national level. With Cali already seeing negative migration and businesses fleeing, if she could get her plans through nationally, where are we to go? Will Mexico build a wall to keep us out? Course her fix will again be more govt control, AKA socialism. Course the likelihood of her getting any of this through congress is not likely.

Well for shat sake, Biden and Harris did nothing for 4 years. This is classic bait and switch campaigning.

[Armistead]

Well for shat sake, Biden and Harris did nothing for 4 years. This is classic bait and switch campaigning.

Eh, be fair, you can't say they didn't do nothing for 4 years. They opened the borders, were likely the root cause of wars starting, highest inflation in decades, etc.

[Buddahaid]

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4f8a7d631fb47e9bfc0d376e16df19ef-lq

[Bilge_Rat]

I remember when Canada and the USA had price controls in the 70s and I actually researched and did a paper on it for one of my political science classes in University.

Bottom line, it can work, but it is a temporary fix, you will freeze/slow down price/wage/profit hikes while controls are in place, but prices/wages will more or less catch up as soon as the controls are lifted.

In practice, you also need a whole bureaucracy in place to make sure prices are not being raised and reviewing when prices/wages should be allowed to raise for economic reasons, since a total price/wage/profit freeze is impossible.

Bottom line, sounds good in theory, but not worth the disruption to the economy in practice.

This is also not a right/left issue, Nixon put it in place in the USA. The Conservative Party ran on it in the 1974 federal election, lost and then the Liberal Party put then in place a few months later.

[mapuc]

Fake or true ?
Someone posted following on fb

"So now he is selling cereal for $25 a box"

$25 for a package of cereal :o

Must be fake since he have attacked stores and companies who has been taken to much for the products.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Fake or true ?
Someone posted following on fb

"So now he is selling cereal for $25 a box"

$25 for a package of cereal :o

Must be fake since he have attacked stores and companies who has been taken to much for the products.

Markus

Not true. However, groceries have gotten very expensive. Price control is not a method for fixing the underlying problem. Giggles campaign looks like she's running for senior HS class president. Her handlers know the economy is the number one issue. The baiting for voters is only going to get worse.

I'd like to point out energy cost has skyrocketed as well. Last months electric bill for my home was $506 US dollars. Last year the average for July was $340 US dollars. Trump years $250 average. Price fixing food costs ain't going to cut it.

[Buddahaid]

Okay, I’ll bite. Prices were even lower during the Obama years so just what is that underlying problem that Captain DJT Bonespurs has explained a solution for? Drill baby drill? We’re already doing that. Bringing manufacturing back domestically? We’re already doing that. Bringing down inflation? We’re already doing that.

Trump’s big economy speech was entirely bereft of substance. He has no clue.

[AVGWarhawk]

Okay, I’ll bite. Prices were even lower during the Obama years so just what is that underlying problem that Captain DJT Bonespurs has explained a solution for? Drill baby drill? We’re already doing that. Bringing manufacturing back domestically? We’re already doing that. Bringing down inflation? We’re already doing that.

Trump’s big economy speech was entirely bereft of substance. He has no clue.

And Harris is an economic genius?

[Buddahaid]

I asked what the underlying problem is you referred to.

[AVGWarhawk]

I asked what the underlying problem is you referred to.

I asked what policies you liked. Crickets.

[Buddahaid]

I asked what policies you liked. Crickets.

I like whatever reigns in energy companies and others making record profits and not passing any of it down to consumers. I like whatever builds a strong middle class of consumers that has been eroding ever since Reagan's spectacularly failed trickle-down policy.

Look at Spain as an example of cheap energy. I believe they currently produce half the country's energy needs with wind and solar and the consumers have low bills. It can be done. Even Musk knows this.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/spains-share-electricity-generated-renewables-rose-508-2023-2023-12-19/

Crickets are over to you.

[AVGWarhawk]

I like whatever reigns in energy companies and others making record profits and not passing any of it down to consumers. I like whatever builds a strong middle class of consumers that has been eroding ever since Reagan's spectacularly failed trickle-down policy.

Look at Spain as an example of cheap energy. I believe they currently produce half the country's energy needs with wind and solar and the consumers have low bills. It can be done. Even Musk knows this.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/spains-share-electricity-generated-renewables-rose-508-2023-2023-12-19/

Crickets are over to you.

Liking whatever reigns in energy companies? What Harris policies do you like? That is the question.

[Buddahaid]

Liking whatever reigns in energy companies? What Harris policies do you like? That is the question.

I'll wait on that until after the DNC when I expect the platform will be solidified. The VP is already announced so naming the platform will be the push going forward.

[mapuc]

I just have to ask

The latest couple of days I have been reading, in here, that Harris & Dems does not have any politics whatsoever.

What about Trump & GOP do they have any politics? It seems like the only thing I see and hear is how Trump is attacking Harris for her left wing politics or lack of it.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

I just have to ask

The latest couple of days I have been reading, in here, that Harris & Dems does not have any politics whatsoever.

What about Trump & GOP do they have any politics? It seems like the only thing I see and hear is how Trump is attacking Harris for her left wing politics or lack of it.

Markus

I'm assuming you mean policies not politics. Yes, Trump has been droning on about Harris's lack of policy but that will no longer be the case after the DNC.

As far as Trump policy goes, from what I gather it's close the border, deport people he doesn't like, retribution for all the real, or perceived, wrongs he ceaselessly whines about as a professional victim, and something or other that's makes everything great again he can't name.

[Jimbuna]

I find myself wondering what he/Trump will do if he loses the election.

I'm convinced accepting defeat graciously will not be one of them.

[AVGWarhawk]

I'll wait on that until after the DNC when I expect the platform will be solidified. The VP is already announced so naming the platform will be the push going forward.

You mean her policy platform is being handed to her. Bait the voting public with a flowery speech and how all are doing well in the Biden years. Then switch once in office. She will not be the first. Nor the last. We can be sure if one thing, she is not bright enough to produce a policy. Obama is getting a 3rd term.

[AVGWarhawk]

I find myself wondering what he/Trump will do if he loses the election.

I'm convinced accepting defeat graciously will not be one of them.

Trump is the least of the worries. He can contest the outcome. Anyone running has that luxury. It's the right wing nut cases that we should be concerned about. The national guard will be deployed this time.

[Jimbuna]

Trump is the least of the worries. He can contest the outcome. Anyone running has that luxury. It's the right wing nut cases that we should be concerned about. The national guard will be deployed this time.

Yeah most likely.

[AVGWarhawk]

Budda,

The underlying problem for the economy you are questioning me on are as follows:


https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/07/biden-5.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1280


https://www.reviewjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/12960085_web1_HARRIS-CULINARY_110819_es_006.jpg

[mapuc]

Trump is the least of the worries. He can contest the outcome. Anyone running has that luxury. It's the right wing nut cases that we should be concerned about. The national guard will be deployed this time.

Trump will, if he lose, sit and cry on the toilet or behind closed doors. The ordinary maga supporters will most likely start some riot-They will be convinced there has been a voter fraud

Markus

[Buddahaid]

You mean her policy platform is being handed to her…

Fine, and then she’ll hand Trump his a$$ in November.

[AVGWarhawk]

Fine, and then she’ll hand Trump his a$$ in November.

Don't count your chickens.

[Buddahaid]

https://youtu.be/yoHDrzw-RPg?si=uesoTiM7Hnd_GB8N

[mapuc]

This must be Trump in a nutshell

Sea view for several
Trump also spoke about climate policy along the way.

He said, among other things, that he does not understand why more people worry about sea level rises as a result of global warming.

According to the Republican, this alone will lead to more properties worldwide getting ocean views, which he sees as a good thing.

https://nyheder-tv2-dk.translate.goog/udland/2024-08-18-trump-ser-en-klar-fordel-ved-global-opvarmning?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

[Reece]

According to the Republican, this alone will lead to more properties worldwide getting ocean views, which he sees as a good thing.
You gotta admit, that's a good one!! :har::har:

[mapuc]

House Republican investigators accused President Joe Biden of engaging in “impeachable conduct” as part of a long-awaited report. It’s unlikely to change a reality the party has faced for months: They don’t have the votes to impeach him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/19/biden-impeachment-congress-gop-00174553

Votes to impeach him!? If a politician have done something illegal then they should be impeached.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I thought they both have almost identical traits.

Trump 'failed' with J.D. Vance pick — and now he's stuck with him: election experts

Donald Trump's selection of Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) as his running mate in the 2024 presidential has gone from bad to worse as the more the public gets to know about the Ohio Republican and his controversial views, the less they like him.

With recent polling showing Vance to be even more unpopular than the much derided Gov. Sarah Palin who was part of Sen. John McCain's losing 2008 presidential bid, the selection of the Ohio Republican by Trump opened the door, once again, to questions about the former president's lack of judgment.

As political scientists Julia Azari, of Marquette University and William Adler, of Northeastern Illinois University, wrote for MSNBC, it has now reached the point where Trump is stuck with Vance for better or worse.

Noting the VP candidates are, at the very least, expected to do no harm to a presidential candidate, they pointed out that Vance has become a millstone around Trump's neck made even worse, comparatively, by Vice President Kamala Harris selecting folksy Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) as her running mate.

As they wrote it is not impossible to get Vance to step down if Trump or his close allies can convince him to take one for the GOP team, but dropping him from the ticket to this late date would come at a possible greater cost.

Adding that it was unlikely to happen, they wrote, "The main purpose of the vice presidential candidate, beyond avoiding harm or generating negative news cycles, is to highlight the presidential candidate’s judgment and values."

"Because Trump has already served as president, most people have already made up their minds about how they feel about these factors," they elaborated. "Dumping Vance would almost certainly generate a news cycle that would be negative for the former president, casting doubt on his judgment and drawing further attention to his running mate’s missteps and flaws."

They concluded, "It’s likely simply too late for Trump to pick someone else. And VP candidate replacements happen so rarely, and are so closely connected to campaign disasters like McGovern’s in 1972, that it would be hard to achieve the quiet, under-the-radar rollout that might have been the wiser strategy in the first place."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-failed-with-j-d-vance-pick-and-now-he-s-stuck-with-him-election-experts/ar-AA1p0BM1?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=29e7d03fc78141f6a9a84d29f1ce2cb2&ei=81

[Buddahaid]

Manhattan DA’s office has signaled they are not opposed to Trump’s request to postpone sentencing in light of the immunity decision thereby stepping away from any political influence.

It is now likely that sentencing will be postponed from September 18th until after the election by Judge Merchan.

[Reece]

The judge is republican! :D

[AVGWarhawk]

Protestors breached the fence at the DNC Chicago. Not a good look for the Dems. Trump understands.

[AVGWarhawk]

Kamala offering $25000 towards a home purchase. Does this include illegals? They get free Medicare. Do you think the seller will raise the price of the home $25000? Asking for a tax payer. Truly trying to buy your vote. She'll never deliver. Flippity flop. Harris policies are:

1. Promise the world. No idea how to pay for it.
2. I'll fix the economy. Three weeks ago she said Biden's economy is doing great.


Remember. Vote Kamala senior class president!!!

[Gorpet]

I thought they both have almost identical traits.

Damn Jim, Democracy in your country is going to dog poop in a hand basket.

First thing ,Sir Keir Rodney Starmer did was jet to the USA. For what reason ? No new PM has ever flew into the mouth of the dragon ? And then come back home and start smacking down their own? At the same time funding a a war against a country that doesn't want your idea of Democracy. Russia is not the enemy. look Sergey Baklykov on youtube. A politician doesn't want you to know especially if they can keep you seperated. And the most powerful country on this planet. Keeps its citizens separated by an ocean. Why? ..can't an American citizens get free travel as a member of NATO to the EU.? Yes why can't we travel as free people? If Democracy is so great why can't i come to the UK.
Our current politicians the smartest brains on the planet. I think should have an IQ test at a high school level, and they must build a SIM City that is as viable as they talk **** about.

[Buddahaid]

Damn Jim, Democracy in your country is going to dog poop in a hand basket.

First thing ,Sir Keir Rodney Starmer did was jet to the USA. For what reason ? No new PM has ever flew into the mouth of the dragon ? And then come back home and start smacking down their own? At the same time funding a a war against a country that doesn't want your idea of Democracy. Russia is not the enemy. look Sergey Baklykov on youtube. A politician doesn't want you to know especially if they can keep you seperated. And the most powerful country on this planet. Keeps its citizens separated by an ocean. Why? ..can't an American citizens get free travel as a member of NATO to the EU.? Yes why can't we travel as free people? If Democracy is so great why can't i come to the UK.
Our current politicians the smartest brains on the planet.

NATO is a treaty between sovereign nations, not a boarding pass. Are you a felon such that you are denied entry into the UK?

[Gorpet]

NATO is a treaty between sovereign nations, not a boarding pass. Are you a felon such that you are denied entry into the UK?

What the hell are you talking about, ? If i'm a NATO citizen with a driver license and if i am especilicy an AMERICAN, I should have free taxi cabs and accommodation's. What the hell, Who do you think keeps you safe. And Buddahaid, Democracy, on this planet can exist in many time zones in many different forms.Would you agree ? Do you think ? if i was a felon i would have a problem , getting to Ukraine and join their army.?

[Buddahaid]

What the hell are you talking about, ? If i'm a NATO citizen with a driver license and if i am especilicy an AMERICAN, I should have free taxi cabs and accommodation's. What the hell, Who do you think keeps you safe

You are not a NATO citizen, nobody is, and last time I looked, California is in the Americas. :Kaleun_Cheers:

[Gorpet]

You are not a NATO citizen, nobody is, and last time I looked, California is in the Americas. :Kaleun_Cheers:

Well damn, Your blocked in ,Mountains to the back and Oceans to the front! You dogs ,think the mountains behind you ,will keep you safe ,from the East ,You are living in a dream .That only hollywood and you nut heads.who think you are worth anything.Your not.And the rest of us don't really give a ****.And if Kamalia is the best IQ, you have to offer. I want her to give me a passport to another country.
Yes will i get a free plane ticket and a passport to safety in another NATO country? Portugal , away from the stink of America.

[Jimbuna]

Trump says he may end EV tax credit; is open to naming Elon Musk as an adviser

YORK, Pennsylvania (Reuters) -Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said on Monday that if elected he would consider ending a $7,500 tax credit for electric-vehicle purchases and that he would be open to naming Tesla CEO Elon Musk to a cabinet or advisory role.

"Tax credits and tax incentives are not generally a very good thing," Trump told Reuters in an interview after a campaign event in York, Pennsylvania, when asked about the EV credit.

Asked if he would consider naming Musk to an advisory role or cabinet job, Trump said he would. "He's a very smart guy. I certainly would, if he would do it, I certainly would. He's a brilliant guy," Trump said.

Musk last month publicly endorsed Trump in the U.S. presidential race. Tesla did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
If elected, Trump could take steps to reverse Treasury Department rules that have made it easier for automakers to take advantage of the $7,500 credit or could ask the U.S. Congress to repeal it entirely. While president, Trump sought to repeal the EV tax credit which was later expanded by President Joe Biden in 2022.

"I'm not making any final decisions on it," Trump said of the EV tax credit. "I'm a big fan of electric cars, but I'm a fan of gasoline-propelled cars, and also hybrids and whatever else happens to come along."

He added that he would rescind the Biden administration rules that will prod automakers to build more EVs and plug-in hybrids to meet stricter emissions standards and said he sees a "much smaller market" for EVs because of cost and battery range issues.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-says-he-may-end-ev-tax-credit-is-open-to-naming-elon-musk-as-an-adviser/ar-AA1p5qMd?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=747aed5d810b4c98ada7a2fde252ee0c&ei=69

[Buddahaid]

Well damn, Your blocked in ,Mountains to the back and Oceans to the front! You dogs ,think the mountains behind you ,will keep you safe ,from the East ,You are living in a dream .That only hollywood and you nut heads.who think you are worth anything.Your not.And the rest of us don't really give a ****.And if Kamalia is the best IQ, you have to offer. I want her to give me a passport to another country.
Yes will i get a free plane ticket and a passport to safety in another NATO country? Portugal , away from the stink of America.

I may be living a dream but you appear to live in a fear driven fever.

[Catfish]

Trump says he may end EV tax credit; is open to naming Elon Musk as an adviser
Power to the crazies :haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

Trump says he may end EV tax credit; is open to naming Elon Musk as an adviser

Ask yourself, why is a person getting credit for driving a EV? Incentive? Isn't helping with climate change enough for one to not require credit?

[mapuc]

By reading some of your post I assume that some of you are going to seek asylum if Harris win the election.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Ask yourself, why is a person getting credit for driving a EV? Incentive? Isn't helping with climate change enough for one to not require credit?

You're getting credit for buying a full plug in EV as a way to stimulate sales which will expand the base and increase the infrastructure as more vehicles are on the road. It's another pathway to energy independence and reducing pollution.

Why is this a problem?

[August]

Forcing people to buy EV cars is not going to reduce pollution, nor will it cause energy independence, and even with subsidies it will drive up the cost of transportation to well above most peoples ability to afford it. We can't even run our air conditioners all day in the summertime without causing blackouts and wild fires. It's certainly not going to handle 300 million EV cars.

[Buddahaid]

Forcing people to buy EV cars is not going to reduce pollution, nor will it cause energy independence, and even with subsidies it will drive up the cost of transportation to well above most peoples ability to afford it. We can't even run our air conditioners all day in the summertime without causing blackouts and wild fires. It's certainly not going to handle 300 million EV cars.

People also said cars were never going to replace horses.

Quoting myself from an earlier post.

Look at Spain as an example of cheap energy. I believe they currently produce half the country's energy needs with wind and solar and the consumers have low bills. It can be done. Even Musk knows this.

https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...23-2023-12-19/

[Rockstar]

. It's another pathway to energy independence and reducing pollution.



The U.S. is already energy independent.

“The United States is producing more oil, gas and renewable energy than ever before. We are exporting more fossil fuel energy than we import," he added. "Our country has never been more energy-independent than we are today.” - Senator Joe Manchin.

Energy independence is really just a “political slogan,” said Andrew Campbell, executive director of the Energy Institute at the University of California, Berkeley.

“That really doesn’t translate to anything that really matters to our economy in any direct way,” he said. “The concept of it, to me, doesn’t hold any meaning.”


Government getting involved in subsidizing products nobody wants is great for their cronies to get rich but really does nothing for us other than having to pay for it all.

[August]

People also said cars were never going to replace horses.

Quoting myself from an earlier post.

Look at Spain as an example of cheap energy. I believe they currently produce half the country's energy needs with wind and solar and the consumers have low bills. It can be done. Even Musk knows this.

https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...23-2023-12-19/


People have said a lot of things over the years but the transition from horses to cars was not at all similar to what the Democrats are trying to foist on the American people now.



For one thing the Government never tried to force citizens to give up their horses and buy automobiles. They never tried to artificially increase the price of fodder or restrict it's production in an attempt to cause a mass switch over before the technology was available and affordable.



Horse transport was allowed to continue completely unhindered until it became naturally obsolete, compared to the vast improvements in travel and operating costs that gas powered cars offered. In the present situation that benefit does not yet exist. EV's are far more expensive to purchase, operate and to maintain and will remain so for decades.



For another thing gasoline, being up to that point a pretty useless byproduct of kerosene, was already in plentiful supply. They didn't have to completely overhaul refinement capacity to produce it in quantities that were well above the current demand, unlike the electrical grid that will need hundreds of billions of dollars in upgrades and new power sources before mass EV use even becomes feasible.

[mapuc]

Do not forget that the first type of cars was electric, but the combustion engine was better than this times electric batteries.

Going from combustion to ev-means we are returning to the way cars was build in the beginning

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Do not forget that the first type of cars was electric, but the combustion engine was better than this times electric batteries.

Going from combustion to ev-means we are returning to the way cars was build in the beginning

Markus

The horseless carriage was laughed at. See where we are today. EV will become a major part of our day to day transportation. We must also understand that Toyota is committed to other forms of alternative fuels for ICE. Hydrogen, etc. Dinosaur based fuel is not going anywhere soon.

[AVGWarhawk]

People also said cars were never going to replace horses.

Quoting myself from an earlier post.

Look at Spain as an example of cheap energy. I believe they currently produce half the country's energy needs with wind and solar and the consumers have low bills. It can be done. Even Musk knows this.

https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...23-2023-12-19/

Big oil will not go down silently. Alternative fuels are studied and tested daily. EV will become more prevalent. I see no reason my next vehicle will not be EV. I have been in a Tesla. It's a great EV IMO.

[mapuc]

Guys we are on a detour to....https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=242026

Markus

[Rockstar]

Big oil will not go down silently. Alternative fuels are studied and tested daily. EV will become more prevalent. I see no reason my next vehicle will not be EV. I have been in a Tesla. It's a great EV IMO.

Nothing wrong with owning a EV but it should remain a personal choice and you should willing to fund what it takes to use it.

Because I sure as hell don’t like having to spend 7.5 billion of taxpayer dollars to build charging stations around the country so you can charge your EV on holiday. You’re welcome by the way.

I would rather spend my money on gas than subsidize someone else’s travel plans

[August]

Do not forget that the first type of cars was electric, but the combustion engine was better than this times electric batteries.

Going from combustion to ev-means we are returning to the way cars was build in the beginning

Markus

Not all of the original automobiles were electric Markus, a few were yes, but there were many prototypes created that used different methods of propulsion. Some even ran on coal and steam, hauling around little boiler trailers.

But the internal combustion engine was far superior to everything else and it took advantage of a byproduct fuel that was cheap and in abundance.

When improvements in EV technology, support systems and operational costs make them a better and more economical choice over the IC engine then we will see a NATURAL migration to the new technology based on free market economics, just like why we migrated from horses to cars.

The government should have no business forcing it on people.

[AVGWarhawk]

Nothing wrong with owning a EV but it should remain a personal choice and you should willing to fund what it takes to use it.

Because I sure as hell don’t like having to spend 7.5 billion of taxpayer dollars to build charging stations around the country so you can charge your EV on holiday. You’re welcome by the way.

I would rather spend my money on gas than subsidize someone else’s travel plans

Govt pretends it's infrastructure. Gas stations are independent dealers and I guess propped up by the oil companies. Musk should be paying for charging stations. I understand Tesla charging stations now accommodate Ford, Kia and Hyundai.

[mapuc]

When improvements in EV technology, support systems and operational costs make them a better and more economical choice over the IC engine then we will see a NATURAL migration to the new technology based on free market economics, just like why we migrated from horses to cars.

The government should have no business forcing it on people.

Here I agree. The day when there is some huge improvement in EV there will be a natural shift from IC to EV.

Your politicians are like ours-Through law making, they make it hard to be a driver on gasoline/diesel. They should stay away and let the development take it course.

Who says that the future is Electric cars ? In 50 years from now we could be driving with some special fuel in a new type of engine

End of an off topic comment

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

The government should have no business forcing it on people.

They did with Obamacare. They will with EV.

[Rockstar]

They did with Obamacare. They will with EV.

That threat to democracy made Obamacare optional as of 2019. Though some states may still penalize you if you don’t have health insurance.

[Jimbuna]

Melania Trump’s ex-aide tells DNC she ‘couldn’t be part of insanity any longer’ as she endorses Harris

Donald Trump’s former White House press secretary spoke on the second night of the Democratic National Convention to endorse Kamala Harris.

Stephanie Grisham, who held the role from July 2019 to April 2020, is one of several Republican figures invited to the convention in Chicago to denounce the “extremism” of the former president and his campaign.

During her remarks, she told attendees that the former president mocks his supporters behind closed doors, calling them “basement dwellers.”

“I wasn't just a Trump supporter. I was a true believer,” Grisham said.

She told a story about Trump during a hospital visit “when people were dying in the ICU, he was mad that the cameras were not watching him. He has no empathy, no morals, and no fidelity to the truth.”
“He used to tell me, ‘it doesn't matter what you say, Stephanie, say it enough and people will believe you,’” the former press secretary said.

She added that she resigned on January 6, 2021, because she “couldn't be part of the insanity any longer.”

“Kamala Harris tells the truth, she repsects the American people and she has my vote,” she said.

In a statement to NBC News, Grisham said she never thought she would be speaking at a Democratic convention.“But, after seeing firsthand who Donald Trump really is, and the threat he poses to our country, I feel very strongly about speaking out.”

She added: “While I don’t agree with Vice President Harris on everything, I am proud to be supporting her because I know she will defend our freedoms and represent our nation with honesty and integrity.”

Other Republicans are expected to share a similar message throughout the convention, including former Representative Adam Kinzinger, of Illinois, who is scheduled to speak Thursday.

On Monday – the first night of the convention – a video compilation of former Trump voters was played to attendees, including a longer interview with a former Trumper, Rich Logis.

“While Donald Trump continues to attack moderates and independents, the Harris-Walz campaign has made clear that there is a place in our coalition for voters who reject the extremism of Donald Trump and want to protect our democracy,” a Harris campaign official said.

Grisham was Trump’s third White House press secretary, succeeding Sarah Huckabee Sanders and was the first White House Press Secretary to hold no press conferences.

She later assumed the role of chief of staff to former first lady Melania Trump on April 7 2020. On the evening of January 6 2021, Grisham resigned from the position following the storming of the United States Capitol.

In the aftermath of the insurrection and her resignation Grisham has become a fervent critic of her former boss, warning that he would “seek revenge” if not reelected.

She told CNN earlier this year: “He used to tell me when I was press secretary, ‘Go out there and say this.’ And if it was false, he would say, ‘It doesn’t matter, Stephanie. Just say it over and over and over again, people will believe it.’

“He knows his base believes in him. He knows he can basically say anything and his base will believe what he’s saying.”

Her inclusion on the second night of the convention, which also includes remarks from Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, and second gentleman Doug Emhoff, continues the Harris campaign’s drive to recruit Republicans to their cause.

“We will be putting patriotic Republicans front and center in our convention programming to explain, in their own words, why they are putting country first and supporting Vice President Harris,” Austin Weatherford, the campaign’s national Republican engagement director, said in a statement to NBC News.

The campaign launched its “Republicans for Harris” program this month to reach more moderate and independent voters who may have supported Trump in the past, specifically highlighting the controversial Project 2025 document.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/melania-trump-s-ex-aide-tells-dnc-she-couldn-t-be-part-of-insanity-any-longer-as-she-endorses-harris/ar-AA1p8W4N?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=dc9f36a6e73d468d8ecf37954b7449be&ei=17

[AVGWarhawk]

That threat to democracy made Obamacare optional as of 2019. Though some states may still penalize you if you don’t have health insurance.


Which indicates it's forced.

[AVGWarhawk]

Melania Trump’s ex-aide tells DNC she ‘couldn’t be part of insanity any longer’ as she endorses Harris

She writes, "He can say anything. His base believes him". The same can be said about the base supporting a Democrat. Harris is spewing out basically "free cash" and her base is lining up with hand out ready to receive it. Jean-Pierre, press secretary to Biden, is busy lying everyday. The Democratic base believes her nonsense.

[Rockstar]

Which indicates it's forced.

Not at the federal level.

Only California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island and Vermont penalize you for not having it. As Floridian all I can say is that’s their problem not mine. ;)

[AVGWarhawk]

Not at the federal level.

Only California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island and Vermont penalize you for not having it. As Floridian all I can say is that’s their problem not mine. ;)

Federal or not. You will be fined until you comply depending on the state you reside. Originally it was mandatory for all. The same will happen for EV. Just a matter of time.

[Rockstar]

Federal or not. You will be fined until you comply depending on the state you reside. Originally it was mandatory for all. The same will happen for EV. Just a matter of time.

I suppose you’re right, as of 2019 we were only given the illusion of choice. Fined by a state or not, 1.8 trillion of tax payer money is still greasing the healthcare wheels wether they choose to sign up or not.

[Rockstar]

2020: "There will not be another foot of wall constructed on my administration”. Joe Biden


2024:
https://i.ibb.co/zrcvScH/IMG-0386.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Evolutionary biologist explains the creationist debating technique Trump uses to push 'lie after lie'

Back in 1994, anthropologist Eugenie Scott (founder of the National Center for Science Education) coined a term for a debating technique favored by creationists: the "Gish gallop." That technique, named for creationist Duane Gish, has been used a lot by Christian fundamentalists since then, including those who are prominent figures in the Republican Party.

Writer Madhusudan Katti examines the use of the "Gish gallop" in an article published by Scientific American on August 20, arguing that it has had an extremely negative effect on U.S. politics.

"(Duane Gish's) tactic consisted of talking fast and with confidence, bombarding opponents with falsehoods, non-sequiturs and enough cherry-picked factoids to confuse the audience," Katti explains. "Scientists debating him faced the challenge of sifting half-truths from outright lies and finding the right evidence to refute them systematically, all within the few minutes allowed in response — which effectively meant that when the bell went off, the Gish gallop left the scientist 'stumped' and Gish declaring victory for creationism."

Katti cites Donald Trump's performance during his debate with President Joe Biden in late June as a prime example of the "Gish gallop" being used on an opponent.

"The migration of the Gish gallop from creationist's patter onto the presidential debate stage, and increasingly onto news opinion pages nationwide, exemplifies a dangerous debasement of honest dialogue in American life," Katti warns. "That both the public and its leaders pass over, or applaud, this kind of dishonesty on the highest political stage shows how integrity has taken a back seat to 'winning' power in politics, business and the so-called 'culture wars,' and now, (is) shrouding us in a fog of disinformation."

Trump, according to Katti, has used the "Gish gallop" repeatedly.

"In politics, the Gish gallop is precisely what Trump deployed in the June debate, putting Joe Biden at a significant disadvantage in attempting to refute even some of the falsehoods in the torrent of lies," Katti observes. "Trump, as anyone even half paying attention to his speeches knows, is an expert at the Gish gallop. He projects the utmost confidence while bombastically repeating lie after lie until it overwhelms his audience into either accepting every word he says as the truth, or walking off in disgust because there is no way to get him to acknowledge any truth."

Katti argues that when Vice President Kamala Harris debates Trump in September, she will need to "counter Trump's Gish gallop more forcefully" than Biden did in June.

Katti warns, "She will face a well-practiced con artist and loud dissembler who will flood the zone with enough falsehoods to outshout the former prosecutor and senator…. When it's her turn to respond, Harris should turn the tables on Trump by calling him out as a liar without bothering to refute each lie and refocus the audience on her own message."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/evolutionary-biologist-explains-the-creationist-debating-technique-trump-uses-to-push-lie-after-lie/ar-AA1pbC0B?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=ed9b81b6c6a8431baf91fba1a708f9c5&ei=95

[Jimbuna]

White House aide says Michelle Obama’s speech was ‘implicit rebuke of the Biden era’

AWhite House aide reportedly called Michelle Obama’s speech at the Democratic National Convention an “implicit rebuke” to President Joe Biden’s term, perpetuating rumors that there is a rift between the president and his former boss Barack Obama.

The former first lady delivered a powerful speech on the second night of the DNC. She anticipated that a Kamala Harris presidency would bring a long-dormant sense of “hope” back to the country, reminding the nation of the enthusiasm felt during the Obama years — while glossing over President Biden’s term.

“Something wonderfully magical is in the air, isn’t it?” Michelle Obama began. “Not just here in this arena… but spreading all across this country we love… a familiar feeling that’s been buried too deep for too long.”
“Hope is making a comeback!” the former first lady said.

While the focus of her speech was on the promise of a brighter future with Harris at the helm, a White House aide believed her words could have served as a slight to Biden.

“It was an implicit rebuke of the Biden era,” the source told Politico, claiming that the former first lady seemed to be blending together the Trump and Biden presidencies into one dreary era in US history.

The aide’s comment furthers swirling theories that there is some continuing tension between Obama and Biden.

Last week, sources told Politico that Biden will not stay in Chicago to hear Obama’s speech because he harbors resentment toward his former boss for not directly calling him to voice his concerns about his re-election chances.

Months ago, following the Trump-Biden debate in June, Obama did not offer public support for Biden to stay in the 2024 race while a chorus of Democratic donors, voters and party leaders loudly called for him to step aside.

Since Biden’s fumbled debate performance, Obama allegedly privately expressed concern about the 81-year-old president’s re-election bid. Obama was also reportedly given an advance warning about George Clooney’s an op-ed in the New York Times, in which he called for Biden to step aside, and did not object to it.

Some had remarked that the Illinois Democrat’s lack of vocal support for Biden was actually saying a lot.

Obama’s silence “is deafening,” Democratic congressman Mike Quigley, toldVanity Fair in July. “If President Obama was all in, he would be all in.”

The former first lady made no explicit comment about Biden — good or bad — but she did underscore the damage of Donald Trump’s presidency, calling him a “racist” and “misogynist.”

In his speech, Barack Obama also signaled that the nation would welcome a change, without distinguishing between Trump and his former vice president: “America is ready for a new chapter. America’s ready for a better story.”

However, the former president spoke of Biden fondly numerous times throughout his speech, telling the crowd: “History will remember Joe Biden as a president who defended democracy at a moment of great danger. I am proud to call him my president, but even prouder to call him my friend.” He also hailed Biden ‘s “hard-earned resiliency and his unshakable belief” that came when America needed them most.

He hailed Biden for being “selfless enough to do the rarest thing there is in politics: putting his own ambition aside for the sake of the country.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/white-house-aide-says-michelle-obama-s-speech-was-implicit-rebuke-of-the-biden-era/ar-AA1pc7I9?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=ed9b81b6c6a8431baf91fba1a708f9c5&ei=87

[Rockstar]

It’s a great feeling to openly criticize politicians and policy here ain’t it!? Too bad some are afraid of getting thrown in jail for talkin’ smack about their own.

[mapuc]

A UK resident can freely criticize their government. Even their refugee policy and so can we the Danes. It''s a different in criticizing a government or a politician for their refugee policy and then write ugly things about Muslims or other foreigners. That's the difference

Markus

[Dargo]

Those arrested are not criticizing politicians and policy but threaten to do violence to people and the community, no wonder if you act as a criminal you are sentenced by a judge for the crime.

[Rockstar]

“Don't be sucked in by everything the press puts out…”

[Dargo]

“Don't be sucked in by everything the press puts out…”Press? These are the UK courts sentencing these criminals, the majority in the communities are against these racists.

[Buddahaid]

Press? These are the UK courts sentencing these criminals, the majority in the communities are against these racists.

Welcome to Jan 6th UK Edition. Enjoy.

[Buddahaid]

"The state’s highest court rejected a Republican challenge and confirmed that New York’s mail-in voting law is here to stay."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO3c1tOS4Ho

[Rockstar]

They did with Obamacare. They will with EV.

Not sure about EV. Ford is cutting EV spending from 40% to 30% placing heavy focus on hybrid tech per Electrek. I guess they finally realized that gubernent subsidies only last so long and consumers still like cars that can get them to work and back home without having to take an afternoon power nap.

[AVGWarhawk]

It appears Biden and Kamala padded the jobs report by 818000. Astonishing. Sigh.....

[Rockstar]

It appears Biden and Kamala padded the jobs report by 818000. Astonishing. Sigh.....

As Harris kept telling us there’s “record job growth”.

Wonder if those lying sacks in Washington.included the 6 American hostages in Gaza in the report.

[Rockstar]

"The state’s highest court rejected a Republican challenge and confirmed that New York’s mail-in voting law is here to stay."


An attempt to amend the NY constitution to allow mail-in ballots was shot down by the voters. The next course of action was to ignore the voters and do it anyway. Seems to be a lot of politicians and governments ignoring their voters these days and then just call them right wing extremists when they protest.

Even the majority opinion had expressed concerns about what just happened.

In his majority opinion, Wilson wrote that it was “troubling” that state lawmakers had pushed ahead with legislation expanding mail-in voting so soon after the proposed constitutional amendment failed.

“The voters considered the proposition and voted against it. Having lost the question before the voters, the legislature then decided that no constitutional amendment was required and passed the Act,” Wilson wrote. “Upholding the Act in these circumstances may be seen by some as disregarding the will of those who voted in 2021.”

“But our role,” he added, “is to determine what our Constitution requires, even when the resulting analysis leads to a conclusion that appears, or is, unpopular.”

The court’s majority said it had evaluated versions of the state constitution dating back to 1777, and concluded that it now “contains no language that explicitly requires in-person voting,” though Wilson said lawmakers and leaders have often acted as if it does.

In his dissent, Judge Michael Garcia said that the state constitution had been understood for more than 200 years to limit absentee voting to people unable to appear at the polls in person. “The ‘no excuse’ universal mail voting legislation violates that constitutional limitation,” he wrote.

Besides that, he said, the legislature’s decision to change the law after the proposed constitutional amendment failed essentially told voters “we never needed you anyway.” He said the court has “both the power and the duty to remedy what happened here, and our failure to do so diminishes us and nullifies the will of the People.”

[AVGWarhawk]

An attempt to amend the NY constitution to allow mail-in ballots was shot down by the voters. The next course of action was to ignore the voters and do it anyway. Seems to be a lot of politicians and governments ignoring their voters these days and then just call them right wing extremists when they protest.

Even the majority opinion had expressed concerns about what just happened.

Their concerns will be ignored. Dismissive labels of being a right wing nut, left wing loon, some sort of phobic or racist doesn't permit anyone from being taken seriously. The government has successfully achieved control of your thoughts via media help. Divide and conquer. Control your government or they will control you.

[AVGWarhawk]

Mike Huckabee.

These are the “Top Ten Corrections to Lies About Trump That You’ll Likely Hear at the DNC.”

1. Trump’s 2016 campaign did not collude with Russia. They wasted $30 million of our tax money investigating that groundless accusation.

2. Trump did not incite his followers to riot or attack police on January 6th, 2021. He told them to protest “peacefully and patriotically,” and after the riot started, he urged them to obey the police and leave quietly.

3. Trump did not try to grab the wheel of the Presidential limo and force his driver to take him to the Capitol on January 6th. That’s now been debunked by all the alleged witnesses.

4. Trump never said there were “very fine people” among the neo-Nazis at Charlottesville; he actually said those people “should be condemned totally.”

5. Trump did not refuse to visit a US military cemetery in France because, he said, the soldiers there were “suckers and losers.” The trip was canceled because the weather was too dangerous for his helicopter to take off; and the “Suckers and losers” quote was refuted by everyone present, including people who are not Trump fans.

6. Trump never said he planned to be a dictator from day one if reelected. He scoffed at the accusation, then joked that he would be a dictator for only one day, when he'd order the border sealed and oil companies to “drill, baby, drill.” Joking about being a dictator for one day and vowing to be a dictator from day one are two very different things.

7. Trump did not say there would be a “bloodbath” if he didn’t win. He said there would be a bloodbath (financial) in the auto industry if Biden did win.

8. Trump never suggested that Americans inject or drink bleach to fight COVID. Seriously, did anyone really believe that one?

9. Trump’s platform is called Agenda 47, not Project 2025. That’s a Heritage Foundation initiative that Trump had nothing to do with and has dismissed.

10. Trump does not back a federal abortion ban; he agrees with the Supreme Court that it’s a state issue.

There are many other debunked lies about Trump that are as worn-out as Columbo’s raincoat, but if we could just edit those 10 out of all the speeches we’re about to hear, they could probably wrap this convention up in two hours. If you must watch this Super Bowl of hooey, then print this list out and have it by your chair. However, I would not suggest turning it into a game by taking a drink every time you hear one, or you might die of alcohol poisoning.

[Rockstar]

Mike Huckabee.

These are the “Top Ten Corrections to Lies About Trump That You’ll Likely Hear at the DNC.”

….

5. Trump did not refuse to visit a US military cemetery in France because, he said, the soldiers there were “suckers and losers.” The trip was canceled because the weather was too dangerous for his helicopter to take off; and the “Suckers and losers” quote was refuted by everyone present, including people who are not Trump fans.

I would add that I came to the conclusion the weather excuse may have been the U.S. simply being polite to the host country. At the time I found there were very serious credible threats on Macrons life. Which lead me to think Secret Service thought it best not to have their ward standing next to a target. I called France an unsecured craphole which of course ticked off all euros.

And it’s still an unsecured craphole. :lol:

[Jimbuna]

'Treason': Trump may have committed a 'massive crime' in call to foreign leader

Former President Donald Trump may have called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss a potential ceasefire deal with Hamas that President Joe Biden's administration is currently negotiating. Now, experts are saying Trump may have committed a felony.

Newsweek reported that two anonymous "U.S. sources who were briefed on the call" confirmed to Axios that Trump spoke with Netanyahu. And according to the New Republic and PBS, the former president reportedly urged Netanyahu to reject the deal currently on the table. The Israeli prime minister's office has denied reports that Trump spoke with him, and the Trump campaign hasn't publicly commented on whether the call actually took place.

A private citizen engaging in diplomatic conversations with foreign governments is a violation of the Logan Act of 1799. U.S. code stipulates that violating the act is a felony punishable by fines and up to three years in prison. However, no one has been successfully prosecuted under the Logan Act in the past, and national security expert Steve Vladeck recently called the law "unconstitutionally vague."

Still, news of the reported call has prompted calls for an investigation. Democratic National Committee member David Atkins told Newsweek that if Trump indeed called Netanyahu, it would constitute a "massive crime." Actor Steven Pasquale expressed a similar sentiment in a Wednesday tweet.

"Trump, a convicted felon citizen, no longer in any role as an elected official, conspiring with Netanyahu, to avoid peace, because it might help his political opponent, is pretty balls to the wall treason," he wrote. "Logan act. A crime. We still have laws here don't we?"
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/treason-trump-may-have-committed-a-massive-crime-in-call-to-foreign-leader/ar-AA1pcpTq?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=dc9492675cc84579a321b1618b7520da&ei=44

[AVGWarhawk]

'Treason': Trump may have committed a 'massive crime' in call to foreign leader

Netanyahu has denied any such call had taken place. Next we will be told Trump had dinner with Rocket Man and discussed ICBMs

[Jimbuna]

Netanyahu has denied any such call had taken place. Next we will be told Trump had dinner with Rocket Man and discussed ICBMs

My gut feeling is he did make the call Chris.

[Rockstar]

Netanyahu has denied any such call had taken place. Next we will be told Trump had dinner with Rocket Man and discussed ICBMs


Someone once said: “Don't be sucked in by everything the press puts out…”

What can I say, some just live in fear AVGWarhawk, they live in fear. :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

My gut feeling is he did make the call Chris.

Probably. What was discussed is only conjecture.

[Jimbuna]

Probably. What was discussed is only conjecture.

Rgr that.

[Jimbuna]

This is from last night but I'm surprised this guy has the cheek to stand up and give a speech on politics.

Former President Bill Clinton is expected to give a rousing speech at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago on Wednesday night in support of Vice President Kamala Harris.

The former president, who served in the 1990s and is often remembered for overseeing a rapidly expanding economy and navigating a generational shift in the global geopolitics following the U.S.S.R.'s collapse, is expected to draw a sharp contrast between Harris and former President Donald Trump in his speech.

“In 2024, we have a clear choice: ‘We The People’ versus ‘Me, Myself, and I,’” Clinton is planning to say, according to excerpts of the speech given to reporters in advance.

He is also expected to laud Harris as the only candidate in the race with the character to serve in the Oval Office.

“Not a day goes by that I’m not grateful for the chance the American people gave me to be one of the 45 people who have held the job," Clinton's speech reads. "Even on the bad days, you can still make something good happen. Kamala Harris is the only candidate in this race with the vision, the experience, the temperament, the will, and yes—the sheer joy—to do that on good and bad days. To be our voice.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/we-the-people-vs-me-myself-and-i-read-highlights-of-bill-clinton-s-upcoming-dnc-speech/ar-AA1pcRHL?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=bbed7d879f69473db21232cad18dec74&ei=27

[Buddahaid]

Mike Huckabee.

These are the “Top Ten Corrections to Lies About Trump That You’ll Likely Hear at the DNC.”

1. Trump’s 2016 campaign did not collude with Russia. They wasted $30 million of our tax money investigating that groundless accusation.

2. Trump did not incite his followers to riot or attack police on January 6th, 2021. He told them to protest “peacefully and patriotically,” and after the riot started, he urged them to obey the police and leave quietly.

3. Trump did not try to grab the wheel of the Presidential limo and force his driver to take him to the Capitol on January 6th. That’s now been debunked by all the alleged witnesses.

4. Trump never said there were “very fine people” among the neo-Nazis at Charlottesville; he actually said those people “should be condemned totally.”

5. Trump did not refuse to visit a US military cemetery in France because, he said, the soldiers there were “suckers and losers.” The trip was canceled because the weather was too dangerous for his helicopter to take off; and the “Suckers and losers” quote was refuted by everyone present, including people who are not Trump fans.

6. Trump never said he planned to be a dictator from day one if reelected. He scoffed at the accusation, then joked that he would be a dictator for only one day, when he'd order the border sealed and oil companies to “drill, baby, drill.” Joking about being a dictator for one day and vowing to be a dictator from day one are two very different things.

7. Trump did not say there would be a “bloodbath” if he didn’t win. He said there would be a bloodbath (financial) in the auto industry if Biden did win.

8. Trump never suggested that Americans inject or drink bleach to fight COVID. Seriously, did anyone really believe that one?

9. Trump’s platform is called Agenda 47, not Project 2025. That’s a Heritage Foundation initiative that Trump had nothing to do with and has dismissed.

10. Trump does not back a federal abortion ban; he agrees with the Supreme Court that it’s a state issue.

There are many other debunked lies about Trump that are as worn-out as Columbo’s raincoat, but if we could just edit those 10 out of all the speeches we’re about to hear, they could probably wrap this convention up in two hours. If you must watch this Super Bowl of hooey, then print this list out and have it by your chair. However, I would not suggest turning it into a game by taking a drink every time you hear one, or you might die of alcohol poisoning.

Most of that is thin white washing that scratches off easily.

[Rockstar]

Most of that is thin white washing that scratches off easily.

I know right? And another thing that bothers me is… “People need to stop overreacting about Kamala’s plan to reduce food inflation, as if it would lead to communism, mass starvation, and the end of America.

I worked in M&A in the food industry. Here’s a step-by-step summary of what would actually happen:

1. The government announces that grocery retailers aren’t allowed to raise prices.

2. Grocery stores, which operate on 1-2% net margins, can’t survive if their suppliers raise prices. So the government announces that food producers (Kraft Heinz, ConAgra, Tyson, Hormel, et. al.) also aren’t allowed to raise prices.

3. Not all grocery stores are created equal. Stores in lower-income areas make less money than those in higher-income areas, as the former disproportionately sell lower-margin prepackaged foods (“center of the store”) instead of higher-margin fresh products like meat (“perimeter of the store”). Because stores in lower-income areas aren’t able to cover overhead (remember, even if their wholesale costs are fixed, their labor, utilities, insurance, and other operating expenses aren’t fixed… yet), grocery chains start to shut them down. Food deserts in rural areas and in low-income urban areas alike become worse.

4. Meanwhile, margins for food producers are also quickly eroding. Their primary costs (ingredients, energy, and labor) aren’t fixed, and their shrinking gross profits leave less cash flow available to cover overhead, maintain facilities, and reinvest in additional production capacity.

5. Grocery chains, which have finite shelf space, start to repurpose their stores (those they didn’t have to shut down, I should say) to sell more non-price-controlled items—everything from nutrition supplements to kitchenware to apparel—and less price-controlled food products. Your local Kroger or Safeway starts to look and feel more like a Walmart.

6. Food producers stop making products with lower margins. Grocery chain start competing with each other to secure inventory. Since they can’t compete by offering stronger prices (remember, producers aren’t allowed to raise prices here, and, even if they could, grocery chains no longer have the gross profit to bear price increases), they compete on things like payment terms.

7. Small grocery chains start to shut down entirely, or get sold to larger chains like Kroger. In addition to not being able to cover fixed costs, a major reason for this is because they can no longer reliably secure delivery of products, due to producers prioritizing sales to larger customers, which are able to leverage their stronger balance sheets to offer superior payment terms.

8. Smaller food producers—which typically sell via distributors, rather than directly to grocery chains—start to go out of business. Because these producers have an additional step their value chains, and because they have lower volumes over which to spread their fixed costs, their cost structure is inherently disadvantaged compared to major food producers. When grocery stores aren’t able to raise prices, cutting product costs becomes all the more important, and deprioritizing purchases from smaller producers is an easy way to do so.

9. As supply chains break down, lines start to form outside grocery stores every morning. Cities assign police officers to patrol store parking lots, and food producers draft contingency plans to assign armed escorts to delivery trucks.

10. The federal government announces a program to issue block grants for states to purchase and operate shuttered grocery stores. The USDA also seizes closed-down production facilities.

11. The government announces that prices for all key food costs—corn, wheat, cattle, energy, etc.—are also now fixed, to stop “profiteers” from gouging the now-government-operated food industry.

12. Shockingly, the government struggles to operate one of the most complex industries on the planet. The entire food supply chain starts imploding.

12.5 Government can't manage the supply and demand, so they impose ration cards (in today's world, digital app). This controls what and amount you can purchase each month.

Black markets open, where people begin to trade things they don't need for things they need or other things.

13. Communism, mass starvation, and the end of America quickly ensue.

Hey wait a second”. :hmmm: :o :03:


As Milton Friedman said: consumers don’t cause inflation, producers don’t cause inflation. Government spending is what causes inflation.

[AVGWarhawk]

Most of that is thin white washing that scratches off easily.

If you watch CNN.

[Jimbuna]

A fair indicator of what possibly lies ahead?

Trump tells fans he has enough votes: Primary focus now 'to make sure they don't cheat'

Former President Donald Trump told voters in North Carolina on Wednesday that getting people out to vote isn't his campaign's main goal this year — a message he shared despite the election being just 76 days away.

“Our primary focus is not to get out the vote — it's to make sure they don’t cheat," Trump said. "We have all the votes we need, you can see it, every house along the way has signs, Trump, Trump, Trump."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-tells-fans-he-has-enough-votes-primary-focus-now-to-make-sure-they-don-t-cheat/ar-AA1pcL3A?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=9fb6f84d17124a6eaf3a72a0301446a3&ei=42

[Buddahaid]

If you watch CNN.

I don't, or MSNBC, or FOX.

[AVGWarhawk]

I don't, or MSNBC, or FOX.

They all suck truth be told. Same talking heads day in, day out. Same narrative. Same BS.

[mapuc]

If you are a Pro-Dem then CNN is your channel of choice.
If you are a Pro-Rep/Trump then Fox Is your channel of choice

Don't know which type of people watch MSNBC

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