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AVGWarhawk
08-05-24, 03:34 PM
She may create word salad when she speaks, however here in Denmark and in Sweden she's being presented as candidate, who's being a major favorit to win the election in Nov. - 24
Gonna laugh when Trump wins-because this would make them speechless.
(I do not care who's gonna win in your Presidential election)
Markus
All manipulated by the media. She's not been given the hard questions yet. Right now she's the new shiny thing. Until she's put front and center and really asked the hard questions and what her policies are will they truly understand that she's not fit for the job. You can only BS people for so long..
All manipulated by the media. She's not been given the hard questions yet. Right now she's the new shiny thing. Until she's put front and center and really asked the hard questions and what her policies are will they truly understand that she's not fit for the job. You can only BS people for so long..
They kept Biden hidden away through the entire 2020 campaign, what makes you think they won't do the same with Kamalalama ding dong?
Meanwhile,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_S57UTs6Q8
:hmmm:
AVGWarhawk
08-05-24, 04:38 PM
They kept Biden hidden away through the entire 2020 campaign, what makes you think they won't do the same with Kamalalama ding dong?
They can't. This is why she needs to be on a debate stage with hard questions. Trump is a blooming idiot for not initiating a debate as soon as possible. She will bury herself in an unscripted environment. This is Trump's win if he speak only facts. Something very hard for Trump to do. Harris cannot debate. That was evident in 2020.
And the ding dong was not necessary.
AVGWarhawk
08-05-24, 04:43 PM
Meanwhile,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_S57UTs6Q8
:hmmm:
I stopped watching after 30 seconds. The divisiveness comes from the media. Trump has nothing to do with Project 25. He stated that last Friday. The media is doing their best to suggest he is.
You can only BS people for so long..
Having a little knowledge on the subject psychology of the voters I would say: You can bs a majority of the people endlessly almost.
Markus
I stopped watching after 30 seconds. The divisiveness comes from the media. Trump has nothing to do with Project 25. He stated that last Friday. The media is doing their best to suggest he is.
Why, for Pete's sake? Its not like anyone is forcing you to watch it. :yeah:
She's talking about senior members of the Republican party who have endorsed Kamala Harris for President. :yep:
No one brought up Project 2025 until you did. We can talk about it in detail, if you'd like. :up: The media has focused on it because, generally, Project 2025 is bat#### crazy. You should try reading it. Don't take my word for it.
AVGWarhawk
08-05-24, 05:24 PM
Having a little knowledge on the subject psychology of the voters I would say: You can bs a majority of the people endlessly almost.
Markus
Sad but true. Hard but fair.
AVGWarhawk
08-05-24, 05:27 PM
Why, for Pete's sake? Its not like anyone is forcing you to watch it. :yeah:
She's talking about senior members of the Republican party who have endorsed Kamala Harris for President. :yep:
No one brought up Project 2025 until you did. We can talk about it in detail, if you'd like. :up: The media has focused on it because, generally, Project 2025 is bat#### crazy. You should try reading it. Don't take my word for it.
Project 25 is nuts. Trump never subscribed to it. The media and this individual suggested he does. The latest is Trump is like Hitler. The entire media circus is out of control.
Buddahaid
08-05-24, 05:59 PM
I...Trump has nothing to do with Project 25. He stated that last Friday. The media is doing their best to suggest he is.
Trump is also known for always being truthful and never just saying whatever he thinks people want to hear. :har:
Since he doesn't appear to have any reading comprehension skills that could actually be true, but in that case, he's then being the useful idiot for their cause.
Too many of the people behind Project 2025(Agenda 47) are trump's cronies for anyone not drinking the Kool-aide to believe.
Project 25 is nuts. Trump never subscribed to it. The media and this individual suggested he does. The latest is Trump is like Hitler. The entire media circus is out of control.
According to the wiki page I posted some weeks ago. The project do mention Trump, not as the author of this Project 2025 though.
It was Established April 2022 - Which mean during Biden's term
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
I can say that these two Dems friend I have on FB are posting stories about Trump and this Project 2025.
Markus
Rockstar
08-05-24, 06:08 PM
Project 25 is nuts. Trump never subscribed to it. The media and this individual suggested he does. The latest is Trump is like Hitler. The entire media circus is out of control.
Trump never subscribed to UNRWA either and banned funding to it
But Biden subscribed to it and even restored funding UNWRA.
The United Nations just ADMITTED that UNRWA employed the TERRORISTS who butchered and raped American and Israeli citizens on October 7th.
What’s it feel like knowing Democrats were funding terrorists who seized and tortured American hostages?
The word Fuhrer have crossed my eyes on several occasions mostly written by my American friend on FB.
This made me wonder. Is the Dems, and maybe the press, trying to scare voters by saying Trump is just like Hitler ?
Markus
Buddahaid
08-05-24, 06:19 PM
How's that impeachment coming along?
AVGWarhawk
08-05-24, 06:58 PM
According to the wiki page I posted some weeks ago. The project do mention Trump, not as the author of this Project 2025 though.
It was Established April 2022 - Which mean during Biden's term
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
I can say that these two Dems friend I have on FB are posting stories about Trump and this Project 2025.
Markus
It's smoke and mirrors perpetrated by the media.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/08/02/project-2025-trump-inside-story-00172299
AVGWarhawk
08-05-24, 06:59 PM
Trump is also known for always being truthful and never just saying whatever he thinks people want to hear. :har:
Since he doesn't appear to have any reading comprehension skills that could actually be true, but in that case, he's then being the useful idiot for their cause.
Too many of the people behind Project 2025(Agenda 47) are trump's cronies for anyone not drinking the Kool-aide to believe.
Smoke and mirrors.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/08/02/project-2025-trump-inside-story-00172299
Jimbuna
08-06-24, 07:02 AM
In the fifteen days since President Joe Biden pulled out of his re-election campaign and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, voters have increasingly grown even more concerned over Donald Trump’s age, health, mental fitness, and variety of other factors, while embracing newly-presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris on those same issues. A majority (51%) now see Donald Trump as too old to be president, and more than a third of voters doubt he would be able to serve a full four-year term.
Jimbuna
08-06-24, 07:24 AM
Harris choice of running mate is expected very soon and it is looking like it will be either Josh Shapiro, Pennsylvania governor or Tim Walz, Minnesota governor.
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 08:03 AM
In the fifteen days since President Joe Biden pulled out of his re-election campaign and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, voters have increasingly grown even more concerned over Donald Trump’s age, health, mental fitness, and variety of other factors, while embracing newly-presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris on those same issues. A majority (51%) now see Donald Trump as too old to be president, and more than a third of voters doubt he would be able to serve a full four-year term.
Funny, 4 years ago a old guy in a basement bunker was not seen as too old to be president. Wonder what changed? :hmmm:
Jimbuna
08-06-24, 08:05 AM
Funny, 4 years ago a old guy in a basement bunker was not seen as too old to be president. Wonder what changed? :hmmm:
Agreed.
Tim Walz is Harris pick.
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 08:07 AM
Harris choice of running mate is expected very soon and it is looking like it will be either Josh Shapiro, Pennsylvania governor or Tim Walz, Minnesota governor.
Two states that play big in recent elections. PA will go Democrat again. The folks in Philadelphia that are numerous determine which way the state will go.
Please, no Buttigieg. :doh:
u crank
08-06-24, 08:28 AM
In the fifteen days since President Joe Biden pulled out of his re-election campaign and endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, voters have increasingly grown even more concerned over Donald Trump’s age, health, mental fitness, and variety of other factors, while embracing newly-presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris on those same issues. A majority (51%) now see Donald Trump as too old to be president, and more than a third of voters doubt he would be able to serve a full four-year term.
In that time period Harris has not held any open press conferences. One would think that she would have a lot to say to the media about her new found candidacy. I am sure that the US media have lots of questions that they would like answered. Very strange.
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 08:35 AM
In that time period Harris has not held any open press conferences. One would think that she would have a lot to say to the media about her new found candidacy. I am sure that the US media have lots of questions that they would like answered. Very strange.
Her handlers do not want her talking to anyone unless she has a script in hand.
Buddahaid
08-06-24, 08:44 AM
Funny, 4 years ago a old guy in a basement bunker was not seen as too old to be president. Wonder what changed? :hmmm:
Republicans could still try to find a younger candidate.
u crank
08-06-24, 08:49 AM
Her handlers do not want her talking to anyone unless she has a script in hand.
But one would think that with an election in a few months she and her handlers would take every opportunity to promote their cause and candidate. Something is wrong.
If Trump wins the Democrats are already planning to deny the election results and even start a civil war to remain in power:
Even if voters unquestionably elect Donald Trump as President, no matter the margin, and even if the election is universally accepted as free and fair, top Democrats are calling on Congress to block certification of the results, and prep for civil war.
https://x.com/leezeldin/status/1820562086453182489
Jamie Raskin is saying that congress will STOP Trump from taking office even if he’s chosen by the voters. This is extremely dangerous. Every Democrat needs to be on the record about this immediately.
https://x.com/i/status/1820544999584666038
Jimbuna
08-06-24, 08:56 AM
Very worrying indeed....I'd have thought whichever side loses will act in the same manner.
Rockstar
08-06-24, 09:03 AM
Agreed.
Tim Walz is Harris pick.
Looking at Walz’s resume it seems fairly solid. Why is it we can’t get people like him nominated to run for president instead of Harris?
Still no matter what I think of Walz there’s no way in hell I will vote Harris.
Uff-da
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 09:10 AM
But one would think that with an election in a few months she and her handlers would take every opportunity to promote their cause and candidate. Something is wrong.
She is a blooming idiot. The handlers will keep her away from the press as much as possible. She can't avoid the debate. Probably pull a "I have COVID. Need to cancel the debate." Then go hide in a basement bunker.
If Trump wins the Democrats are already planning to deny the election results and even start a civil war to remain in power:
Hypocrites. The lot of them.
Harris picks Walz. A Boomer! They tout Gen X in Harris but pick a Boomer for VP. Last I checked the Boomers is the reason this country is in the state it is. At least the Millennials believe so. :hmmm:
Buddahaid
08-06-24, 10:15 AM
You’re all starting to sound desperate..
Looking at Walz’s resume it seems fairly solid. Why is it we can’t people like him nominated to run for president instead of Harris?
Still no matter what I think of Walz there’s no way in hell I will vote Harris.
Uff-da
Fairly solid for what? Moscow district commissar?
The man took an early retirement to get out of deploying to Iraq with his troops. As governor of Minnesota he told the cops to take a knee and refused to send in the national guard as his cities burned, killed hundreds of elderly people by stuffing them into nursing homes with covid, embellished his military career, praises socialism, convicted drunk driver. Not someone I would ever want running the country.
https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1820807307921416478
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 10:19 AM
You’re all starting to sound desperate..
Not at all. In fact, I'm a bit relieved she picked Walz. Now we know who will be running the country. Kamala can just giggle for 4 years.
If Trump wins the Democrats are already planning to deny the election results and even start a civil war to remain in power:
https://x.com/leezeldin/status/1820562086453182489
https://x.com/i/status/1820544999584666038
That is truly scaring. How can a politician even come up with such a proposal ?
Markus
That is truly scaring. How can a politician even come up with such a proposal ?
Markus
Just imagine the outraged indignation if a republican had said that about Harris. Democrats and their supporters are the biggest hypocrites to ever soil the planet.
Rockstar
08-06-24, 12:18 PM
Fairly solid for what? Moscow district commissar?
The man took an early retirement to get out of deploying to Iraq with his troops. As governor of Minnesota he told the cops to take a knee and refused to send in the national guard as his cities burned, killed hundreds of elderly people by stuffing them into nursing homes with covid, embellished his military career, praises socialism, convicted drunk driver. Not someone I would ever want running the country.
https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1820807307921416478
So far all I saw is one quote where he equated socialism to neighborliness. Somewhat concerning term but I tend to think he may have been equating social ‘programs’. Something every state in the union has to help those who in need get a leg up. As long as tax payers have a say how much and where those social services go, I don’t have a problem with it. What I do have a problem with is the fraud and waste that comes along with it.
Now if he were thinking about having the state take over control of means of production. Then I would have a serious problem because that’s actual socialism.
As for the rest of the accusations that are coming out it’s not the hottest resume after all stolen valor is a big no no. Guess that’s what I get for using Wikipedia as a source, shame on me. :doh:
Buddahaid
08-06-24, 12:41 PM
"Judge Merchan in New York has just informed Trump and his lawyers that he’s full steam ahead to impose criminal sentencing on Trump on 18 September at 10 am, and Trump’s efforts to get the Supreme Court to stop it have failed as well...."
It's expected the sentence will be handed down and stayed pending appeal at the same time.
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 01:06 PM
"Judge Merchan in New York has just informed Trump and his lawyers that he’s full steam ahead to impose criminal sentencing on Trump on 18 September at 10 am, and Trump’s efforts to get the Supreme Court to stop it have failed as well...."
It's expected the sentence will be handed down and stayed pending appeal at the same time.
4 years unsupervised probation at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington DC. :haha::har:
If Trump wins the Democrats are already planning to deny the election results and even start a civil war to remain in power
Even if voters unquestionably elect Donald Trump as President, no matter the margin, and even if the election is universally accepted as free and fair, top Democrats are calling on Congress to block certification of the results, and prep for civil war.
Jamie Raskin is saying that congress will STOP Trump from taking office even if heÂ’s chosen by the voters. This is extremely dangerous. Every Democrat needs to be on the record about this immediately.
He is giving an example of a constitutional amendment that the Supreme Court interpreted as they saw fit and how that it now means that instead of states making the judgement whether someone qualifies as presidential candidate, it is now up to the congress to decide.
In no part does he says that they are going to disqualify Trump if he wins.
Rockstar
08-06-24, 02:47 PM
He is giving an example of a constitutional amendment that the Supreme Court interpreted as they saw fit and how that it now means that instead of states making the judgement whether someone qualifies as presidential candidate, it is now up to the congress to decide.
In no part does he says that they are going to disqualify Trump if he wins.
Disqualify? I didn’t see that word mentioned anywhere. I did read however a democrat suggest that no matter how free and fair the election was, democrats in congress not certify the results and to prepare for civil war.
Disqualify? I didn’t see that word mentioned anywhere. I did read however a democrat suggest that no matter how free and fair the election was, democrats in congress not certify the results and to prepare for civil war.
... there's no reading required, champ. It's a video clip.
Rockstar
08-06-24, 03:04 PM
I did, he’s still rambling on about insurrection, something Trump was never charged with except by sensational headlines and gossip.
But because he still proclaims trump guilty of insurrection. Without coming right out and demanding it, he seems to float the idea that democrats in congress should not certify the results and prepare for civil war because they think they know better than our justice system.
4 years unsupervised probation at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington DC. :haha::har:
If Trump get a sentence it will be postponed to after the election and if Trump wins after his term in the white house.
This is what I understand from reading about it.
And does anyone have a link to this famous video clip which are being discussed right now ?
Markus
Rockstar
08-06-24, 03:30 PM
If Trump get a sentence it will be postponed to after the election and if Trump wins after his term in the white house.
This is what I understand from reading about it.
And does anyone have a link to this famous video clip which are being discussed right now ?
Markus
August posted the links a page back.
Basically the guy thinks SCOTUS opinion on presidential immunity somehow affected the 14th sec 3 concerning insurrection. Thing is Trump was never ever charged, tried or convicted of it. But that doesn’t matter to Democrats so he floats the idea they should not certify the elect no matter how free and fair it was and prepare for civil war.
The guy is an idiot
Disqualify? I didn’t see that word mentioned anywhere. I did read however a democrat suggest that no matter how free and fair the election was, democrats in congress not certify the results and to prepare for civil war.
"have to tell the "rampaging" Trump mobs that he is disqualified". Its right about the 25 second mark on the Zelden tweet clip.
August posted the links a page back.
Basically the guy thinks SCOTUS opinion on presidential immunity somehow affected the 14th sec 3 concerning insurrection. Thing is Trump was never ever charged, tried or convicted of it. But that doesn’t matter to Democrats so he floats the idea they should not certify the elect no matter how free and fair it was and prepare for civil war.
The guy is an idiot
Thank you, must have missed it. He does mention civil war and disqualify the result.
Markus
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 04:34 PM
Raskin is proposing a 'criminal conspiracy to commit election interference.'
The Danish news channel had an issue around the Dems Vice President and every people they interviewet had only positive thing to say about him and how much good he have done for his state Minnesota.
Talking about biased interviews. Don't come and tell me that every citizens are satisfied with their Governor and now Vice President
Markus
Rockstar
08-06-24, 05:52 PM
The Danish news channel had an issue around the Dems Vice President and every people they interviewet had only positive thing to say about him and how much good he have done for his state Minnesota.
Talking about biased interviews. Don't come and tell me that every citizens are satisfied with their Governor and now Vice President
Markus
It’s called cherry picking. If those praising Walz are from Minnesota I reckon that’s to be expected since they voted him in office. However there are others in Minnesota who didn’t but nobody will ask them.
I just watched the speeches at the Philly rally. :up:
Someone posted here :roll: that Walz bailed out on his troops prior to a deployment to Iraq. The truth was that he retired from the National Guard as a Command Master Sargent after 24 years of service. Some of you may understand that you can retire after 20 years and that Command Master Sargents usually don't go charging into enemy machine gun nests. :03:
I like this guy. :up: The troll farms will be ramping up about "things they heard" in the coming weeks but I think he's earned a little more respect than that. :yep:
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 06:01 PM
The Danish news channel had an issue around the Dems Vice President and every people they interviewet had only positive thing to say about him and how much good he have done for his state Minnesota.
Talking about biased interviews. Don't come and tell me that every citizens are satisfied with their Governor and now Vice President
Markus
Just shining him up like they are doing with Harris. These two are the most radical this country has seen.
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 06:02 PM
I just watched the speeches at the Philly rally. :up:
Someone posted here :roll: that Walz bailed out on his troops prior to a deployment to Iraq. The truth was that he retired from the National Guard as a Command Master Sargent after 24 years of service. Some of you may understand that you can retire after 20 years and that Command Master Sargents usually don't go charging into enemy machine gun nests. :03:
I like this guy. :up: The troll farms will be ramping up about "things they heard" in the coming weeks but I think he's earned a little more respect than that. :yep:
You'll like him until you realize how radical left he is.
I just watched the speeches at the Philly rally. :up:
Someone posted here :roll: that Walz bailed out on his troops prior to a deployment to Iraq. The truth was that he retired from the National Guard as a Command Master Sargent after 24 years of service. Some of you may understand that you can retire after 20 years and that Command Master Sargents usually don't go charging into enemy machine gun nests. :03:
I like this guy. :up: The troll farms will be ramping up about "things they heard" in the coming weeks but I think he's earned a little more respect than that. :yep:
There's no such rank as a "Command Master Sergeant" in the US Army. :03:
But that reminds me of another false claim he's made. He's called himself a Sergeant Major but that promotion was revoked when he put in for retirement without completing the term of service he had agreed to as a condition to attend the SGM academy.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/walz-embellished-and-selectively-omitted-facts-about-his-military-career-retired-national-guardsmen
And no E-8s and E-9's don't normally fight (unless their name is Plumley or Benavidez) but they do provide leadership to the ones who do and by putting in his paperwork after his unit got word that they were being deployed means he basically abandoned his men when they needed him the most.
You'll like him until you realize how radical left he is.
Harris and Walz are centrists and they are running as centrists. :yep:
What's the alternative? :o
My creditability on this forum is fine.
I'm just sayin'. :03:
Harris and Walz are centrists and they are running as centrists. :yep:
Centrists! :har::haha::rotfl2:
They're so far left of center they are starting to approach the far right.
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 06:57 PM
Harris and Walz are centrists and they are running as centrists. :yep:
What's the alternative? :o
My creditability on this forum is fine.
I'm just sayin'. :03:
No sir. Left as left can get. They are busy trying to go to the center.
Rockstar
08-06-24, 07:07 PM
I just watched the speeches at the Philly rally. :up:
Someone posted here :roll: that Walz bailed out on his troops prior to a deployment to Iraq. The truth was that he retired from the National Guard as a Command Master Sargent after 24 years of service. Some of you may understand that you can retire after 20 years and that Command Master Sargents usually don't go charging into enemy machine gun nests. :03:
I like this guy. :up: The troll farms will be ramping up about "things they heard" in the coming weeks but I think he's earned a little more respect than that. :yep:
Wrong again :roll:
Stolen Valor is looking into it so far this what they found:
He did hold the rank of CSM, but was subsequently reduced and receives retired pay for the rank of MSG. There were no disciplinary reasons for the reduction.
According to the PAO for the Minnesota National Guard, they said it is legitimate for Walz to say he served as a CSM. They said the rank changed because Walz retired before completing coursework at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy along with other requirements associated with his promotion.
I’ll keep you posted as more is released
He has also admitted to bailing out from deployment to work in politics.
No big hero, just someone who was frocked, bailed to seek politics and retired pay grade lower because he did complete the necessary requirements.
He's probably a nasty leg too. :)
AVGWarhawk
08-06-24, 08:55 PM
Fudged or not, Walz passed the smell test when he ran for Congress. I don't believe his military record will prove to be a problem.
Armistead
08-06-24, 10:04 PM
It's interesting, the big fear with Harris was being so far left that all Dem pundits said the smart move was to pick a moderate as VP. A mass of excitement built around Shapiro and Kelly, with Walz hardly a mention. Harris first real big decision, she picks someone further left than she is. With about 60% of independents polled wanting Biden to move to the center, now we have Harris more left... and Walz even more left than she. Independents win elections. Trump leads in double digits on the top issues, he shouldn't be tied with Harris, but he is because he's an idiot.
em2nought
08-06-24, 11:40 PM
Harris and Walz are centrists and they are running as centrists. :yep:
They're so far left that Israel should possibly take out Iran while they still can.
No big hero, just someone who was frocked, bailed to seek politics and retired pay grade lower because he did complete the necessary requirements.
So, basically, you're saying that what you originally posted was wrong or based on a lie. Got it. :up:
Try to not trust the "Rat####ers" and FSB next time. :salute:
Rockstar
08-07-24, 04:50 AM
So, basically, you're saying that what you originally posted was wrong or based on a lie. Got it. :up:
Try to not trust the "Rat####ers" and FSB next time. :salute:
So basically what reality are you living in? What I first stated I thought he had a fairly solid resume. Then stated I found out thru Stolen Valor who checks into these things that he only served as CMS and did not a retire a CMS because he never completed his course requirements and that he also bailed out of deployment to pursue politics. I even went so far to give him the benefit of the doubt and defended his comment equating socialism with neighborliness. Further commenting that he’s no war hero or gift from god but just a guy who was frocked and left the service for politics. I’ll add one more thing he’s also your superhero that thought requiring tampons in men’s bathrooms important, but that’s Minnesota for ya
Earth to ET, try harder next time and get off the fanboy bandwagon and FSB Russia conspiracy theories while you still have a chance.
Skybird
08-07-24, 05:23 AM
Some German media write that Harris is America's equivalent to Germany's Baerbock. I tend to see a valid point in that. :)
Following is written by a Danish expert on US politics
Author: Naser Khader
Understandably, Kamala Harris unselected Josh Shapiro from the crucial swing state of Pennsylvania as a vice presidential candidate.
He is simply too talented and popular, and would pose a threat to the weak Kamala Harris.
Many insist that Shapiro is a practicing Jew and that the United States is not ready for a Jew in the White House. I remind you that Joe Lieberman (practicing Jew) was VP for Al Gore who lost by a very few votes to George W. Bush. Also, Kamala Harris is married to a Jew.
Since that time in 2000, the Democrats have gained a strong left wing and a strong Islam-Palestine lobby, which might destroy the mood at the convention in barely two weeks if she had chosen Shapiro.
But more importantly, in addition to Harris being afraid of the left, Shapiro is simply smarter than her. He is a better speaker, his popularity as governor is above 60 percent, and she would be afraid of being overshadowed.
Shapiro has also challenged the Hamas lobby and the woke movement in universities and on the streets.
Had she chosen Shapiro to secure victory in Pennsylvania, the debate could quickly turn into a discussion about why she is at the top of the ballot - and not him.
Tim Walz's state of Minnesota is not a crucial swing state.
When Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are excited about Tim Walz, it says something about the candidate's political stance.
With Harris-Walz, you get one of the most left-wing couples that have run in recent times. The two together will be an easy target for Donald Trump's campaign.
Kamala Harris has not really been tested. Right now, a new enthusiasm is being celebrated by the Democrats and the mainstream media, who have not yet asked Harris critical questions.
I predict when Kamala Harris is tested soon, she will have a Mike Dukakis moment where the candidate, because he was accused of being too soft and liberal, was photographed on a tank with a helmet that doesn't fit. Dukakis lost to George H.W. Bush in 1988. The defeat is attributed, among other things, to the tank stunt.
But right now, Harris is "a savior" and protected on the pedestal that the mainstream media - including the Danish ones - have put her on.
It will be exciting to follow.
Markus
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 07:18 AM
This election is putting on display the real power of the media who once was reporting Harris as a laughing stock and now place her on a pedestal as savior.
People will fall for such things because they are lead to believe everyone else are far-right extremists that must be stopped and not whether she’s cut out for the job.
What Starmer and the BBC and other Brit government run rags are doing is no different than what our own elites and media do here.
On the flipside, there is now a far far extreme lefty teaming up and running. Their platform is "Republican are weird". That is the pot calling the kettle black. Further, the catchy "weird" will only go so far. Eventually, they need to start talking policy and answering questions. At this point, all we have seen is Greek Week at a frat house. Just a party. Now it is time for the final exams. They are not prepared for these exams.
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 09:06 AM
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1oo4rt.img?w=1920&h=1080&q=60&m=2&f=jpg
Buddahaid
08-07-24, 10:15 AM
On the flipside, there is now a far far extreme lefty teaming up and running. Their platform is "Republican are weird". That is the pot calling the kettle black. Further, the catchy "weird" will only go so far. Eventually, they need to start talking policy and answering questions. At this point, all we have seen is Greek Week at a frat house. Just a party. Now it is time for the final exams. They are not prepared for these exams.
The chair sniffer Adin Ross who Trump just spent the day with and accepted gifts from is normal?
The democrats have been talking policy the whole Biden presidency while the MAGA hijacked GOP has talked nothing else but fear mongering and achieved nothing in Congress. Where's that Biden impeachment crap that wasted so much time and money going nowhere now? Dropped as it no longer makes good soundbites that MAGA confuses as policy.
EDIT: And Trump in 2019 appointed Walz to the Council of Governors. It seems Walz was good for Trump then.
https://meidasnews.com/news/donald-trump-claims-tim-walz-is-extreme-yet-appointed-walz-to-key-position
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 10:22 AM
The chair sniffer Adin Ross who Trump just spent the day with and accepted gifts from is normal?
The democrats have been talking policy the whole Biden presidency while the MAGA hijacked GOP has talked nothing else but fear mongering and achieved nothing in Congress. Where's that Biden impeachment crap that wasted so much time and money going nowhere now? Dropped as it no longer makes good soundbites that MAGA confuses as policy.
Last I checked Harris is distancing herself from Biden's policies. The border. The economy. Fracking. Defunding the police. Giggling....no wait. That is still on the table.
It appears you simply refuse to acknowledge Harris has not been put to the task of answering questions and discussing policy. It has been nothing but a frat party for two weeks.
Buddahaid
08-07-24, 10:37 AM
There's the debate Trump chickened out of that will do just that. He will be there like a moth to a lightbulb most likely.
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 10:44 AM
There's the debate Trump chickened out of that will do just that. He will be there like a moth to a lightbulb most likely.
She will talk gibberish and back pedal what she said in the 2020 debates. Then again, it depends on who is asking the questions. She may very well be asked what was Biden's favorite flavor of ice cream.
But yes, Trump will go on some sort of triad about nothing. Claim he saved the world economy and will do the same for the galaxy. The guy has a perfect platform but resorts to name calling instead. :doh:
Jimbuna
08-07-24, 11:01 AM
She will talk gibberish and back pedal what she said in the 2020 debates. Then again, it depends on who is asking the questions. She may very well be asked what was Biden's favorite flavor of ice cream.
But yes, Trump will go on some sort of triad about nothing. Claim he saved the world economy and will do the same for the galaxy. The guy has a perfect platform but resorts to name calling instead. :doh:
I suspect you will be pretty accurate :yep:
Rockstar
08-07-24, 11:16 AM
Fairly solid for what? Moscow district commissar?
Maybe I was wrong about how I thought of the Big Lebowski’s use of the word socialism when he equated to neighborliness.
It appears you may be right and according to the author of this article below we are asking for it.
America Is Becoming a Social Democracy
The Biden administration is accomplishing what was once thought historically impossible.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/07/america-is-becoming-a-social-democracy/
MAY 7, 2021, 5:35 AM
In his speech before a joint session of Congress last week, U.S. President Joe Biden advocated nothing less than the kind of social democracy that most of America’s European partners have long taken for granted. United opposition from congressional Republicans may prevent him from realizing that dream. But merely by introducing the blandly named but far-reaching American Families Plan, Biden has compelled two profound questions: Why has America been so “exceptional” in this regard until now, and what has changed now to make the unthinkable so very possible?
First, some nomenclatural clarity. “Social democracy” is not “democratic socialism,” even if many professed partisans of the latter seem to really want the former. Democratic socialism is socialism—the public ownership or effective control of economic resources—with a human face. Social democracy allows markets to flourish but uses tax and spending policies to finance the kinds of social goods promised in the American Families Plan—free universal education, child support, family and medical leave, and access to health care (which Biden has promised to enhance in a separate bill). The plan would achieve many of these goods through tax credits rather than the direct subsidies used in much of Northern Europe—a distinctively American twist on the social democratic formula.
Why has the United States lacked social democracy? Progressive thinkers from the time of the historian Charles Beard have argued that the U.S. plutocracy has used control over the nation’s politics to maintain their privileges and thwart efforts at reform. In his recent history of populism, The People, No, the economist Thomas Frank asserts that the same business class that crushed the populist revolt of the late 19th century also limited Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal reforms and guided the late 20th-century Democratic Party into the shallows of the Third Way, embracing limited government and the hegemony of markets.
More recently, thinkers on the left have attributed the American exception to race rather than class. In The Sum of Us, the policy analyst Heather McGhee describes the workings of a zero-sum paradigm that has impelled poor white people to deprive themselves of social goods lest those goods also benefit Black people and thus threaten the racial hierarchy that keeps them on top. McGhee cites one study that imputes America’s low tax rates to white racism and concludes: “Absent race as an issue in American politics, the fiscal policy in the USA would look quite similar to fiscal policies in Northern Europe.”
Recent history gives credence to both hypotheses. In the aftermath of Lyndon Johnson’s war on poverty, conservatives, and above all Ronald Reagan, perfected a conjuring trick that blurred the distinction between government spending and helping poor Black people, whom Reagan was wont to call “welfare queens.” If government was good for poor Black people, it was bad for white people—maybe even for poor white people. The class theory seems equally convincing: One need only think of the tens of millions of dollars that the quintessentially plutocratic Koch brothers have poured into the cause of “limited government.”
The shortcoming of both these explanations is that they assume that people cannot sincerely hold the views they hold, especially if they appear to be inimical to their own material interests. Ergo, Americans have been duped into opposing social democracy. An earlier generation of thinkers, including such Progressives as Walter Weyl and Herbert Croly (authors of The New Democracy and The Promise of American Life, respectively), traced American resistance to an activist state to a Jeffersonian tradition of individual autonomy that had persisted (thanks, in no small part, to corporate power) despite the vast changes in the U.S. economy. The limited state spoke to Americans’ deepest values.
In this respect, in fact, the United States has always been different from Europe. In a 2001 paper exploring why the United States doesn’t have a European-style welfare state, a group of Harvard economists traced the gap in social spending to the very birth of the welfare state around 1870. Only the catastrophe of the Great Depression compelled Americans to accept the need for large-scale state intervention—though even then the gap with Europe remained large. (Nevertheless, the authors do anticipate McGhee’s argument, asserting that “America’s troubled race relations are clearly a major reason for the absence of an American welfare state.”)
The final element to the America exception is success. One of the chief reasons why the energy for reform unleashed by the New Deal died out after World War II, dooming Harry Truman’s Fair Deal, is that Americans felt that they were doing just fine on their own. Hourly manufacturing wages tripled between 1940 and 1960. Inequality shrank (thanks in part to high marginal taxes). Economic theories preoccupied with the allocation of scarce resources lost traction in what John Kenneth Galbraith called the “age of affluence” in his 1958 book, The Affluent Society.
In short, American resistance to social democracy was baked into the national culture, the economy, and the racial and class systems. What, then, has happened to weaken those mighty foundations?
Certainly revelations about systemic police abuse of Black people, and the terrible sufferings of poor and especially Black people during the pandemic, have done something to undermine the zero-sum paradigm. But how much? Half the country still voted for Donald Trump. And Biden has carefully avoided race-specific economic plans, and for that matter programs targeted only at the poor, in order to avoid what may have been the tragic flaw of Johnson’s Great Society, which, in effect, set middle-class benefactors against poor and Black beneficiaries of the welfare state.
There is also gratifying evidence that a once-monolithic owning class has been fragmented. For every billionaire holding his nose and voting for Trump in order to keep his taxes low there is a Warren Buffett or Bill Gates demanding higher taxes in order to provide more government services. But the weakening grip of the plutocracy feels like a dependent variable of something else.
That something lies in the realm of belief. The free market goose stopped laying golden eggs for the middle class about 45 years ago, when incomes stopped growing. It took a full generation for that economic fact to even begin producing changes at the level of belief; the tech boom of the 1990s further delayed that moment of reckoning. Economic libertarianism began to hit the wall when President George W. Bush, fresh from his reelection, proposed to partly privatize Social Security, allowing ordinary Americans to play the market with their retirement money. This was the Rubicon that the free market purists, led by Newt Gingrich, had been waiting to cross. And the plan flopped. Asked to choose between security and the so-called freedom of the marketplace, ordinary Americans chose security.
Trump understood that, at least intuitively. Alone among the Republican candidates in 2016, he offered security rather than freedom to a public increasingly worried about the brittleness of their standing, economic as well as social. Trump promised to protect Americans from market forces as well as from immigrants and terrorists, to preserve Social Security and Medicare and bring Wall Street malefactors to book. He never did touch those entitlements, and he quickly assented to massive state spending to ward off the worst economic consequences of the pandemic. But he left most Americans far less secure than he found them.
Donald Trump’s immense popularity is proof positive that the United States has not conquered the demons of race; nor have we tamed the overclass. Yet neither, it seems, posed quite the insuperable barrier to a more just society that critics on the left imagined. The Reagan switcheroo has stopped working. Americans no longer regard “us” as self-sufficient and only “them” as needy; thanks to a combination of long-standing precarity and the COVID-19 crisis, everyone is hurting or only a little bit of bad luck away from real misfortune. The neo-Jeffersonian ideology that once allowed the American Medical Association to stave off Medicare by depicting doctors as endangered small-business owners, or conservatives to mock subsidized child care as Swedish-style socialism, is in full and perhaps permanent retreat. That ideology has proved remarkably robust; Croly predicted its demise more than a century ago. In a recent poll, two-thirds of respondents endorsed Biden’s startlingly bold plans both on physical infrastructure and on social spending. If they pass in a form even remotely similar to what he has proposed, the American exception will finally end.
Of course a future Republican Congress, and a future Republican president, could undo what a Democratic Congress and President have done. The United States is very far from the kind of social consensus that made it possible for Europeans to forge a welfare state in the years after World War II. But universal social benefits turn out to be quite sticky. Dwight Eisenhower made no attempt to roll back Social Security; even Ronald Reagan kept his hands off Medicare. People grow very fond of these cushions against life’s shocks.
It is very strange to think that at a moment when liberal democracy seems to be in retreat all over the world, very much including at home, the United States is on the verge of embarking on the most radical experiment in government activism since at least the 1930s. Yet it’s no contradiction. Now, as then, economic failure has compelled the world’s democracies to prove, as Biden repeated before Congress, that they can deliver the safety and the prosperity that their citizens crave. Perhaps, though it is dangerous to think so, our deepest hopes will be realized.
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 11:17 AM
I suspect you will be pretty accurate :yep:
I can hear it now. Trump will refer to Kamala as "Headboard Harris". Sigh.....
Buddahaid
08-07-24, 11:51 AM
I can hear it now. Trump will refer to Kamala as "Headboard Harris". Sigh.....
It seems you are coming to the realization that Trump is the used car salesman, poseur and charlatan I was calling him eight years ago. He's a one-horse act and that act isn't working anymore. The sooner he's gone the sooner the GOP will recover.
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 12:04 PM
It seems you are coming to the realization that Trump is the used car salesman, poseur and charlatan I was calling him eight years ago. He's a one-horse act and that act isn't working anymore. The sooner he's gone the sooner the GOP will recover.
I have known from the very beginning of this thread. But much can be said for Biden and co. Just selling different used cars, stuff and nonsense. They buy votes. Pick your poison. :yeah:
Rockstar
08-07-24, 12:22 PM
It seems you are coming to the realization that Trump is the used car salesman, poseur and charlatan I was calling him eight years ago. He's a one-horse act and that act isn't working anymore. The sooner he's gone the sooner the GOP will recover.
Dang sounding the trumpet for eight years like a true prophet. Imagine if we had just listened to you the world would be filled with peace, rainbows and unicorns, the sick healed, cats and dogs living together.
A new study appearing in the Proceedings of the National Academic of Sciences suggests that know-it-alls, or highly dogmatic individuals, are:
1. More likely to believe they are right
2. Which makes them less likely to seek out additional evidence to support their case
3. Which undermines their chances of being objectively right
4. Which makes them more often wrong than non-dogmatic individuals.
It’s a vicious cycle that the "belief superioritist" is, in a sense, completely oblivious to. And, it appears on both sides of the political aisle.
Buddahaid
08-07-24, 01:01 PM
And yet I called him a charlatan eight years ago in this thread, or an earlier version of it, regardless of what you think.
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 01:02 PM
And yet I called him a charlatan eight years ago in this thread, or an earlier version of it, regardless of what you think.
Well, you are both consistent. That is a good quality. :up:
We don't have to discuss who you think or want to win anymore this man have revealed who it's gonna be
Professor Allan Lichtman from America University has been right for 30 years in his prediction of who will win the presidential election in the United States. And now he points to his provisional bid for a winner in an interview with the Norwegian Dagbladet .
https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/samfund/har-haft-ret-siden-1984-nu-afsloerer-han-sin-vinder/10324035?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp
I don't believe it-I see it as an attempt to affect the voters
Markus
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 01:51 PM
We don't have to discuss who you think or want to win anymore this man have revealed who it's gonna be
https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/samfund/har-haft-ret-siden-1984-nu-afsloerer-han-sin-vinder/10324035?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp
I don't believe it-I see it as an attempt to affect the voters
Markus
He has a 50/50 chance of getting it right. He picks well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bgW0Hs_mGs
:hmmm:
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 03:14 PM
CNN up to it's usual tricks. Walz was in the National Guard. Retired. Re-inlisted and retired again once he was activated to deploy to Iraq. JD Vance was in the Marines and served in Iraq. The media is totally unchecked and permitted to do as they wish. CNN, FOX, MSNBC...all of them.
https://youtu.be/Gwv0Nf5qqvw?si=oyE7i6bybASXtCD-
Rockstar
08-07-24, 03:44 PM
CNN up to it's usual tricks. Walz was in the National Guard. Retired. Re-inlisted and retired again once he was activated to deploy to Iraq. JD Vance was in the Marines and served in Iraq. The media is totally unchecked and permitted to do as they wish. CNN, FOX, MSNBC...all of them.
Right or wrong I know a more than few who deployed and a wounded warrior who look at Walz with disdain for skipping out on deployment.
Now on to J.D. Vance calling out Harris for not being in front of camera answering questions by the media. On a side note: That’s what I like about Trump given the chance he’ll always let you know what’s on his mind. Lol
https://youtu.be/yhmiOE0e9WI
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 03:51 PM
Right or wrong I know a more than few who deployed and a wounded warrior who look at Walz with disdain for skipping out on deployment.
Now on to J.D. Vance calling out Harris for not being in front of camera answering questions by the media. On a side note: That’s what I like about Trump given the chance he’ll always let you know what’s on his mind. Lol
No doubt Walz should be called out with his brisk retirement before being deployed. The issue is it past the smell test when he started his political career. It certainly passes the smell test at CNN. But that CNN for you.
Buddahaid
08-07-24, 05:13 PM
Right or wrong I know a more than few who deployed and a wounded warrior who look at Walz with disdain for skipping out on deployment...
Walz had already indicated months before the call up that he was not reenlisting and retiring after 25 years.
"GOP activist Loraine Pellegrino has been convicted in the fake elector case. As the first person to face legal consequences in this scandal, her conviction sheds light on the broader investigation into fraudulent election claims."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKnCSzKYCcQ&t=29s
Rockstar
08-07-24, 05:37 PM
Walz had already indicated months before the call up that he was not reenlisting and retiring after 25 years.
You’re barking up the wrong tree I really don’t give a crap. I’m just passing on what I hear from others that deployed and lost a body part. No matter what link you post it’s likely not going to change their mind.
Buddahaid
08-07-24, 05:41 PM
Then why do you post your comments?
em2nought
08-07-24, 06:04 PM
Right or wrong I know a more than few who deployed and a wounded warrior who look at Walz with disdain for skipping out on deployment.
Now on to J.D. Vance calling out Harris for not being in front of camera answering questions by the media. On a side note: That’s what I like about Trump given the chance he’ll always let you know what’s on his mind. Lol
https://youtu.be/yhmiOE0e9WI
JD should sooooooo apply this graphic to the cockpit area on the nose. :D
https://ccnwordpress.blob.core.windows.net/journal/2014/12/15DayFB.jpg
Then why do you post your comments?
Probably for the same reason that you do. It's not rocket science.
Rockstar
08-07-24, 06:07 PM
Then why do you post your comments?
Because you responded to mine, that’s how it works, duh.
Buddahaid
08-07-24, 06:46 PM
Because you responded to mine, that’s how it works, duh.
And he said he doesn't care, duh yourself.
No doubt Walz should be called out with his brisk retirement before being deployed. The issue is it past the smell test when he started his political career. It certainly passes the smell test at CNN. But that CNN for you.
Before you call him out, you might want to check when he was serving as a U.S. Congressman. :)
:har:
If Vance wants to Swiftboat this guy, I think he's playing with napalm and tiki torches.
AVGWarhawk
08-07-24, 07:54 PM
Before you call him out, you might want to check when he was serving as a U.S. Congressman. :)
:har:
If Vance wants to Swiftboat this guy, I think he's playing with napalm and tiki torches.
What's your point? His military career didn't keep him from a political position. I don't see it making a difference in this election either.
les green01
08-07-24, 08:48 PM
Military service didn't matter when Clinton ran hadn't really have since then honestly I'm going pop some pop corn up and watch the firework's I think Neal should do a pool everybody who wants put the money in for who's going to win the election subsim gets the money then you know something good will come out of it
Interesting article on how the upcoming Dem convention compares to the 1968 debacle. A couple excerpts:
Politics is more cyclical than linear. The answer to a problem creates a new one; democratization leads to a different concentration of power, sclerosis, and the need for another transformation. The Democratic Party of 2024 suffers from two of the same weaknesses as the party of 1968: unaccountable elites and irresponsible rebels. The elites are no longer the big-city mayors and state chairs and union chiefs who controlled delegates in 1968. The elites of 2024 are a celebrity class of former presidents, top elected officials, extremely rich donors, and presidential family members. They are insular and self-interested; for much of this year they’ve acted as if their loyalty to one another matters more than their duty to the party and its voters. Meanwhile, the great middle structure that allows a party’s leaders to hear the voices of its rank and file has hollowed out. In this sense, Biden and Harris resemble Johnson and Humphrey: candidates most ordinary Democrats didn’t want but the bosses imposed. It makes sense that, instead of the polarizing eruptions of 1968, we have the consolidating delusions of 2024—Vietnam divided the party, but Trump unites it.
This year’s rebels are pro-Palestinian demonstrators, third-party defectors, the young and alienated. Whatever their political views, their disaffection is so great that many of them would welcome the defeat of the Democratic Party and could decide the outcome in a few key states, such as Michigan. In 1968, the anti-war leader Tom Hayden declared that the candidate who would best serve his goals was George Wallace, the racist governor of Alabama, on the Leninist theory of “the worse, the better.” This year’s revolutionary dreams lie on the right, with Trump hinting that he would end democratic elections, and authoritarians such as Steve Bannon and the minds behind Project 2025 plotting to dismantle every structure of government that could check his power in a second term. The rebels on the left don’t have fantasies of taking power. Their impulses are entirely negative—directed, as in 1968, not at the far enemy, the Republicans, but at the near one. When pro-Palestinian activists vow to bring tens of thousands of demonstrators to Chicago—one organizer gave the unlikely figure of 100,000—to surround the United Center, where the convention will be held, their intent is not persuasion, or even protest, but disruption that will weaken the Democratic nominee.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/what-democrats-can-learn-from-the-trauma-of-1968/ar-AA1ooGB5?ocid=BingNewsSerp#comments
les green01
08-08-24, 03:56 AM
I think it be funny if the Dems at the convention picks someone else to run sad thing there a lot of people thinking just cause Biden was running Harris was running too just cause she is vp
Otto Harkaman
08-08-24, 06:42 AM
I don't think there will be any surprises with Hillary, Pelosi and Obama endorsing Harris.
AVGWarhawk
08-08-24, 07:35 AM
I don't think there will be any surprises with Hillary, Pelosi and Obama endorsing Harris.
That was done about a week ago. Of course they all toe the line. Obama was the last to endorse. Personally, I think Obama does not feel she is fit for the job. He did delay his endorsement for 4-5 days.
Jimbuna
08-08-24, 08:38 AM
I'm not convinced Biden will understand the result come the end of the election process.
Biden 'not confident' of peaceful transition if Trump loses
US President Joe Biden has said he is not confident there will be a peaceful transition of power if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.
In his first interview since he dramatically dropped out of the race last month, Mr Biden told CBS News: “If Trump loses, I'm not confident at all."
"[Trump] means what he says, we don’t take him seriously. He means it, all this stuff about ‘if we lose it will be a bloodbath’.”
Mr Trump’s comment that it would “be a bloodbath for the country” if he loses the election, made as he was talking about the auto industry in March, triggered a wave of criticism.
Democrats were quick to reiterate their campaign message that the former president poses a threat to democracy. The Biden campaign used the “bloodbath” comment in an ad - posted on its social media accounts - and a spokesman accused Mr Trump of “encouraging and excusing political violence”.
The Trump campaign, however, said the comment was specifically about the auto industry and had been deliberately taken out of context. It sent a fundraising email which said Trump’s political opponents and others had been "viciously" misquoting him.
"[They] fully understood that I was simply referring to imports allowed by Crooked Joe Biden, which are killing the automobile industry," Trump wrote on social media at the time.
Mr Biden has previously expressed concern that his former rival would not accept the result of the election.
During the presidential debate on CNN in June - which triggered the crisis over Mr Biden's candidacy - Trump was asked directly whether he would accept the 2024 election results.
“If it’s a fair and legal and good election, absolutely," he responded, after initially avoiding the question.
Trump made repeated unfounded claims of election fraud in 2020 after he lost that election to Mr Biden.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgj29wk8rgo
AVGWarhawk
08-08-24, 08:41 AM
I'm not convinced Biden will understand the result come the end of the election process.
Bidens not confident he knows where he is.
Jimbuna
08-08-24, 08:46 AM
Bidens not confident he knows where he is.
Yeah but I'm not sure Trump isn't on the same slippery path, some way to catch up but on the same path.
AVGWarhawk
08-08-24, 08:56 AM
Yeah but I'm not sure Trump isn't on the same slippery path, some way to catch up but on the same path.
He is always on the same slipper path. It is the only path he knows.
Rockstar
08-08-24, 09:01 AM
Bidens not confident he knows where he is.
Considering what Raskin said earlier about not certifying the election results. Maybe Biden thinks he’s going to stay in office and turn this country into a fascist state like the U.K.
Yeah but I'm not sure Trump isn't on the same slippery path, some way to catch up but on the same path.
You're not sure eh?
Buddahaid
08-08-24, 09:56 AM
Considering what Raskin said earlier about not certifying the election results. Maybe Biden thinks he’s going to stay in office and turn this country into a fascist state like the U.K.
The UK is a fascist state? :har::har::har:
AVGWarhawk
08-08-24, 10:17 AM
Considering what Raskin said earlier about not certifying the election results. Maybe Biden thinks he’s going to stay in office and turn this country into a fascist state like the U.K.
Raskin is instigating it. Yet, they point out Trump.
AVGWarhawk
08-08-24, 11:44 AM
https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/454348603_886047056899761_3233639438387699121_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=jLuqRAhhXqYQ7kNvgHOfz4Y&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AYCZApgPim2GkkA2IrYt50fxVnX-TaN8Judnh0OLcU2ViA&oe=66BAB51D
Otto Harkaman
08-08-24, 11:49 AM
Weird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg95fY7neA4
Oops, someone got caught lying again. :har:
Mind, you, we all know that CBS is the channel for Gen Z and latte drinking , vegan Millennials who enjoy DEI and Taylor Swift. *
*- For those of you outside of north America, I'm kidding. :O: CBS is the "old farts channel". :D
Here's a much bigger lie about Medicare that will actually matter:
Thanks to the IRA, Part D Is Fighting for Its Life
The Biden Administration continues to pretend that it’s been protecting Medicare and the seniors who depend on it, but last week the Health and Human Services (HHS) bureaucracy was forced to pull out all the stops (https://www.cms.gov/files/document/july-29-2024-parts-c-d-announcement.pdf) to mask the havoc caused by their signature legislative achievement, the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA).
Each year, insurance plans submit bids to the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) for the right to offer prescription drug coverage to Medicare beneficiaries. These bids provide CMS with information about the package of benefits offered and the cost of offering these benefits. CMS summarizes this information for the public at the end of each July, and usually includes information about average premiums. For years, premiums have been stable and even exhibited declines as they did over the course of the Trump Administration (https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/trump-administration-announces-historically-low-medicare-advantage-premiums-and-new-payment-model#:~:text=As%20previously%20announced%2C%20the %20average,and%20Part%20D%20premium%20costs.).
Last year, the first year the IRA’s Part D changes started to take effect, premiums increased 21 percent (https://www.kff.org/medicare/issue-brief/medicare-part-d-in-2024-a-first-look-at-prescription-drug-plan-availability-premiums-and-cost-sharing/). Policymakers and insurance plans have been warning that this year would be even worse, but the Administration ignored these warnings, and publicly predicted premiums this year would be stable (https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/fact-sheets/2025-medicare-advantage-and-part-d-rate-announcement#:~:text=Under%20the%20policies%20fina lized%20in%20the%20CY,updated%20risk%20adjustment% 20model%20implementation%2C%20average%20premiums). But as the final bids came in from plans, reality set in.
CMS delayed announcing the premiums and instead suddenly unveiled a three-year Premium Stabilization Demonstration (https://www.cms.gov/files/document/july-29-2024-parts-c-d-announcement.pdf). The new demonstration, announced100 days before a Presidential election, allows CMS to assume more of the plans’ costs by injecting taxpayer dollars into the program and mute the IRA’s massive inflationary effects.
CMS’s lack of transparency and the haphazard creation of this demonstration program—plans have only been given a week (https://www.cms.gov/files/document/july-29-2024-parts-c-d-announcement.pdf) to decide if they will participate—suggests the Agency should have more carefully considered what plans had been telling it for months: they could not participate in the program and seniors would lose coverage if something drastic wasn’t done.
The effort CMS is investing to hide the program’s collapse is shocking even to those of us who expected trouble. The bid announcement included information on how much plans believe it will cost them to cover an average beneficiary each month. To call the increase an explosion would be an understatement; since 2023, just after the IRA was passed, the cost to provide benefits has increased a whopping 417 percent (https://www.cms.gov/files/document/july-29-2022-parts-c-d-announcement-pdf.pdf).
https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2024/08/07/thanks_to_the_ira_part_d_is_fighting_for_its_life_ 1050305.html
AVGWarhawk
08-08-24, 04:18 PM
Here's a much bigger lie about Medicare that will actually matter:
https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2024/08/07/thanks_to_the_ira_part_d_is_fighting_for_its_life_ 1050305.html
IRA is and was crap from the go. Harris will look the other way on that as well.
Rockstar
08-08-24, 08:18 PM
https://youtu.be/6v0M_0H6MU4
em2nought
08-08-24, 09:25 PM
I was Midshipman "Nought" at one time, so I think under the rules pertaining to democrats I can be Ensign "Nought" now. :har:
Jimbuna
08-09-24, 05:48 AM
'Unhappy with the narrative': Trump privately seething about Harris’ crowd sizes
Since she became the presumptive 2024 Democratic presidential nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris has been packing venues with thousands of loud supporters. This has reportedly gotten under the skin of former President Donald Trump.
Rolling Stone reporters Ryan Bort and Asawin Suebsaeng on Thursday spoke with an unnamed "Republican source who's spoken to the former president in recent days" who confided that Trump is quietly boiling over with anger about how Harris has commanded the news cycle over the last two weeks. Specifically, the source said Trump is "unhappy with the narrative" that Harris is attracting larger crowds to her rallies than the ex-president. Trump essentially said as much in a recent post to his Truth Social page.
"If Kamala has 1,000 people at a Rally, the Press goes 'crazy,' and talks about how 'big' it was - And she pays for her 'Crowd.' When I have a Rally, and 100,000 people show up, the Fake News doesn’t talk about it, THEY REFUSE TO MENTION CROWD SIZE," Trump wrote. "The Fake News is the Enemy of the People!"
Harris and Minnesota Democratic Governor Tim Walz — whom the vice president announced as her running mate on Tuesday – have been barnstorming across the Midwest since Walz joined the ticket. Harris spoke to a crowd of thousands at a basketball arena in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and even posted a side-by-side comparison of crowd sizes on her campaign's Truth Social (which Trump owns) account on Tuesday night. The top photo of Harris' rally shows the stadium packed to the rafters, while the photo of Trump's crowd size shows the attendees are mostly concentrated in the lower bowl.
"Same arena in Philly," the @KamalaHQ account wrote.
Meanwhile, Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) has been struggling to muster the same enthusiasm during his campaign stops in comparison to the Democratic ticket. On Wednesday, a video of a Vance rally in Macomb County, Michigan — which Trump comfortably won in both 2016 and 2020 — showed there were approximately just as many journalists present as there were supporters. This prompted some to ridicule the GOP vice presidential nominee as "low energy."
Aside from his Thursday press conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, Trump has done only eight public events since the late June debate with President Joe Biden. Harris and Walz, in the meantime, have a packed schedule after announcing a seven-state blitz of rallies across the country, including in states deemed safe Republican, like Montana.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/unhappy-with-the-narrative-trump-privately-seething-about-harris-crowd-sizes/ar-AA1otqEw?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=b23e24ac639449b68796ae2035220910&ei=266
Skybird
08-09-24, 06:18 AM
Trump seems to bidening. :D His recent desastrous press conference of which I saw a few excerpts saw him spiralling out of control and into a deep neurological crisis that seems to have started deconstruction his brain's inner structure. :D
See, thats how a spoiled brat behaves when it finds out it is no longer dominating the headlines, but its rival does. He is a pseudo-male Karen. :03:
My worries about the time after an election that he may have lost then, are deepening.
Jimbuna
08-09-24, 06:25 AM
There could well be some truth in what you say but personally I'm looking forward to seeing if Harris is as bad at debating as some on here insist.
On a more positive note, I'll be in Cyprus celebrating my Ruby Wedding Anniversary so I hope the wife won't mind me watching.
Skybird
08-09-24, 06:39 AM
so I hope the wife won't mind me watching. Really? Feel lucky that I am not your wife! :D
:Kaleun_Cheers:
AVGWarhawk
08-09-24, 08:10 AM
'Unhappy with the narrative': Trump privately seething about Harris’ crowd sizes
Trump certainly has an issue with size. Crowds. Hands. :doh:
AVGWarhawk
08-09-24, 08:49 AM
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1ovOfo.img?w=800&h=435&q=60&m=2&f=jpg
Buddahaid
08-09-24, 11:02 AM
Trump team. LOWER!
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1ot895.img?w=460&h=800&m=6
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-reposts-racist-image-darkening-kamala-harris-face-and-giving-her-a-dung-beetle-body/ar-AA1otgW0
Jimbuna
08-09-24, 12:08 PM
Trump certainly has an issue with size. Crowds. Hands. :doh:
Yes Sir :)
Jimbuna
08-09-24, 01:02 PM
Trump team acknowledges they accidentally drove Democrats to the polls in 2020
The Trump campaign is trying to learn from its mistakes in 2020, according to a new report by The New York Times — specifically, they want to stop accidentally pushing Democrats to the polls.
"The Trump officials ... said they had learned from mistakes of the last cycle," reported Maggie Haberman, Jonathan Swan, and Shane Goldmacher. "One of Mr. Trump’s 2024 advisers said that the 2020 campaign had poorly anticipated which voters were actually persuadable, only to learn that as many as 80 percent of the people it believed could be swayed were actually hardened partisans, which led to costly wasted efforts. In some cases, the Trump campaign wound up driving Biden supporters to the polls, officials said."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-team-acknowledges-they-accidentally-drove-democrats-to-the-polls-in-2020/ar-AA1oukCp?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=029f37adf6b34bd28abf53e769bc7a3a&ei=3
AVGWarhawk
08-09-24, 02:50 PM
"Who exactly is the 59-year-old woman aspiring to be the world’s most powerful person? That’s the beauty of the Kamala Harris campaign. Who knows? The Democratic nominee has already become the political equivalent of the “Choose Your Own Adventure” books."
Kimberly Strassel. WSJ
em2nought
08-09-24, 07:31 PM
"Who exactly is the 59-year-old woman aspiring to be the world’s most powerful person? That’s the beauty of the Kamala Harris campaign. Who knows? The Democratic nominee has already become the political equivalent of the “Choose Your Own Adventure” books."
Kimberly Strassel. WSJ
Looks like her own people think she's a dung beetle? :har: As a fellow 59 year old I believe I'd make a better President, but the discovery of my image in porn videos would eliminate me from the Republican ticket. :har:
u crank
08-09-24, 08:02 PM
As a fellow 59 year old I believe I'd make a better President, but the discovery of my image in porn videos would eliminate me from the Republican ticket. :har:
Now that is funny. That will get a nomination.
:D:D:D
:up:
Buddahaid
08-09-24, 08:17 PM
Looks like her own people think she's a dung beetle? :har: As a fellow 59 year old I believe I'd make a better President, but the discovery of my image in porn videos would eliminate me from the Republican ticket. :har:
You didn't say what kind of porn.....:Kaleun_Wink:
Jimbuna
08-10-24, 05:31 AM
I'd have thought more chance of this happening if Trumo doesn't win.
GOP education candidate urged Trump to suspend Constitution and declare military coup
North Carolina superintendent candidate Michele Morrow urged former President Donald Trump on January 6 to suspend the Constitution and use the military and martial law to stay in power, according to CNN's KFILE.
Morrow traveled to the Capitol on the day of the insurrection, wrote Em Steck and Andrew Kaczynski, but there is no evidence she rioted at the complex or joined the crowd in breaking into the facility.
She did, however, post a Facebook Live stream from her hotel room in which she proclaimed anyone who helped certify the 2020 presidential election should be arrested.
“And if the police won’t do it and the Department of Justice won’t do it, then he will have to enact the Insurrection Act, in which case the Insurrection Act completely puts the Constitution to the side and says, now the military rules all.”
Asked for comment by CNN, Morrow refused to address her comments on the stream, saying, “What North Carolina voters are concerned about is the education of our children.”
This isn't the first controversial statement Morrow, a registered nurse and homeschooling activist who defeated incumbent GOP Superintendent of Public Instruction Catherine Truitt in a surprise primary upset, has made on social media.
Among other things, Morrow suggested President Joe Biden and former President Barack Obama should be executed for treason, with Obama's killing aired on pay-per-view; that the Chinese Communist Party stationed thousands of troops in Canada to steal the presidential election from Trump; and has endorsed conspiracy theories from the Nazi-influenced QAnon movement.
All of this comes as the North Carolina GOP also faces scrutiny over extremist views of their gubernatorial nominee, Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson, who has downplayed the Holocaust, said America was better back when women didn't have the right to vote, and proposed that elementary schoolers shouldn't be taught science or history.
AVGWarhawk
08-10-24, 07:12 AM
I'd have thought more chance of this happening if Trumo doesn't win.
GOP education candidate urged Trump to suspend Constitution and declare military coup
CNN. Sigh....
Buddahaid
08-10-24, 10:09 AM
Trump's fantasy world on display. I wonder how Ashli Babbitt's mom feels about the claim that nobody was killed on January 6th.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-news-conference-fact-check-misinformation-eb899c1fc734f5ecb42b8d0902e5c004
em2nought
08-10-24, 10:59 AM
You didn't say what kind of porn.....:Kaleun_Wink:
I didn't want you ogling me. :D
Trump's fantasy world on display. I wonder how Ashli Babbitt's mom feels about the claim that nobody was killed on January 6th.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-news-conference-fact-check-misinformation-eb899c1fc734f5ecb42b8d0902e5c004
Probably still pissed off at all the insults and names that your lying media attack dogs have called her daughter over the past 4 years.
Oh BTW your article says that five people died on January 6th, but that's not true either now is it? I guess the fact that the only person who died on Jan 6th was an unarmed protester murdered by a government agent would have the same "fact checking" impact so they embellished it with people who died weeks and months later for reasons not even related to Jan 6th.
Buddahaid
08-10-24, 11:52 AM
Probably still pissed off at all the insults and names that your lying media attack dogs have called her daughter over the past 4 years.
Oh BTW your article says that five people died on January 6th, but that's not true either now is it? I guess the fact that the only person who died on Jan 6th was an unarmed protester murdered by a government agent would have the same "fact checking" impact so they embellished it with people who died weeks and months later for reasons not even related to Jan 6th.
And the rest of his obvious fantasies about the MLK crowd and helicopter ride with Willie Brown that never happened, etc. Trump's version of reality amounts to whatever falls out of his mouth at any given moment.
I think the smartest thing the former GOP can do is concentrate on electing non-MAGA down ticket candidates and then voting Harris into office. That gives them four years to cough out the Trump/MAGA hairball and form a platform that can win in 2028.
AVGWarhawk
08-10-24, 12:36 PM
And the rest of his obvious fantasies about the MLK crowd and helicopter ride with Willie Brown that never happened, etc. Trump's version of reality amounts to whatever falls out of his mouth at any given moment.
I think the smartest thing the former GOP can do is concentrate on electing non-MAGA down ticket candidates and then voting Harris into office. That gives them four years to cough out the Trump/MAGA hairball and form a platform that can win in 2028.
Or the fantasy the economy is good. The border secured. Inflation Reduction Act is such ground breaking legislation Biden should be memorialized on Mt. Rushmore.
I have tears in my eyes guys it is wonderful to see how united you are in American politics
Doesn't matter who's going to win you have agreed on it would mean the end of USA and its democracy
Markus
AVGWarhawk
08-10-24, 12:51 PM
I have tears in my eyes guys it is wonderful to see how united you are in American politics
Doesn't matter who's going to win you have agreed on it would mean the end of USA and its democracy
Markus
Democracy will prevail.
Jimbuna
08-10-24, 12:54 PM
I have tears in my eyes guys it is wonderful to see how united you are in American politics
Doesn't matter who's going to win you have agreed on it would mean the end of USA and its democracy
Markus
Serious or sarcasm?
Serious or sarcasm?
Sorry I forgot It was written with a huge bunch of sarcasm.
I should have mentioned it.
Markus
Jimbuna
08-10-24, 01:03 PM
Sorry I forgot It was written with a huge bunch of sarcasm.
I should have mentioned it.
Markus
Not a problem matey but it did pique my curiosity.
Buddahaid
08-10-24, 01:04 PM
Or the fantasy the economy is good. The border secured. Inflation Reduction Act is such ground breaking legislation Biden should be memorized on Mt. Rushmore.
As compared to an actual fantasy of how much better it would have been with a Trump second term. The economy is good, and the stock market is thriving except for Trump Media which is down something around seventy points simply because it's just another house of cards Trump sham like all of his failed businesses.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/sep/21/carly-fiorina/trumps-four-bankruptcies/
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-lists/the-many-business-failures-of-donald-trump-12488/gotrump-com-67544/
Looks like her own people think she's a dung beetle? :har: As a fellow 59 year old I believe I'd make a better President, but the discovery of my image in porn videos would eliminate me from the Republican ticket. :har:
Now that is funny. That will get a nomination.
:D:D:D
:up:
...or, at least, a come on from Trump... :D
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Another concerning matter for the Trump campaign; I heard on the radio news (local CBS affiliate) of a very recent survey where a group of voters (declared as likely to vote in the November Election) where, in an one-on-one face off, Harris was a favorite 51% to Trump's 49%; however when other non DEM/GOP candidates were added to the mix( RFK, Jr, third party, etc.), Harris remained at 51%, but Trump lost support and fell to about 46%; such a hit on Trump's potential support does not bode well...
...and there are also a number of polls taken among GOP voters where, when asked about Trump as a candidate, 25% of the GOP voters polled stated they wished the GOP had picked another candidate; if you take into account how many of those 1 in 4 GOP voters will opt to either sit out the election and not vote, or vote for Harris or some other 3rd party candidate/write-in, the potential loss of votes for the GOP is indeed concerning...
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AVGWarhawk
08-10-24, 01:44 PM
Another concerning matter for the Trump campaign; I heard on the radio news (local CBS affiliate) of a very recent survey where a group of voters (declared as likely to vote in the November Election) where, in an one-on-one face off, Harris was a favorite 51% to Trump's 49%; however when other non DEM/GOP candidates were added to the mix( RFK, Jr, third party, etc.), Harris remained at 51%, but Trump lost support and fell to about 46%; such a hit on Trump's potential support does not bode well...
...and there are also a number of polls taken among GOP voters where, when asked about Trump as a candidate, 25% of the GOP voters polled stated they wished the GOP had picked another candidate; if you take into account how many of those 1 in 4 GOP voters will opt to either sit out the election and not vote, or vote for Harris or some other 3rd party candidate/write-in, the potential loss of votes for the GOP is indeed concerning...
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Independents have changed the voting landscape in the past. JFK never got much traction. It takes money.
Independents have changed the voting landscape in the past. JFK never got much traction. It takes money.
Yes, we have changed the voting landscape; young voters just recently coming into the political process are very far less inclined to settle for the "my party right or wrong" mindset and opt for a more self-determined selection process; I applaud them for actually having free will and some degree of discernment...
<O>
Rockstar
08-10-24, 02:29 PM
Sorry I forgot It was written with a huge bunch of sarcasm.
I should have mentioned it.
Markus
I certainly wouldn’t have blamed if you said you were serious. :yep:
Catfish
08-10-24, 02:33 PM
Democracy will prevail.
Serious or sarcasm?
I think what you wrote it is better related to the above, not Mapuc :03:
Because after the first failed storm on the capitol what does anyone think happens this time if Trump loses again? May well be the end of democracy in the US. On the other hand what is a democracy worth where only the richest people have a chance to even become a candidate.
:Kaleun_Wink:
Rockstar
08-10-24, 03:19 PM
Yes, we have changed the voting landscape; young voters just recently coming into the political process are very far less inclined to settle for the "my party right or wrong" mindset and opt for a more self-determined selection process; I applaud them for actually having free will and some degree of discernment...
<O>
Indeterminism is illogical no such thing as free will. The youngsters so-called self-determined selection process will be formed primarily by following our example, mass media, & chitposts. There’s no avoiding the Law of Causation.
Indeterminism is illogical no such thing as free will. The youngsters so-called self-determined selection process will be formed primarily by following our example, mass media, & chitposts. There’s no avoiding the Law of Causation.
Nice stream of buzzwords, but overthought; I was merely stating that more and more of voters, not only youth, but, also, others fed up with "party loyalty" demands, are now questioning exactly why they should vote for a particular candidate or issue and making decisions based not on drinking the proffered Kool-Aid
<O>
“These documents were obtained illegally from foreign sources hostile to the United States, intended to interfere with the 2024 election and sow chaos throughout our Democratic process,” Cheung said. “On Friday, a new report from Microsoft found that Iranian hackers broke into the account of a ‘high ranking official’ on the U.S. presidential campaign in June 2024, which coincides with the close timing of President Trump’s selection of a vice presidential nominee.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/10/trump-campaign-hack-00173503
Markus
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/10/trump-campaign-hack-00173503
MarkusWhere is the evidence, where is the hack? I do not see it, neither believe this "These documents were illegally obtained from foreign sources hostile to the United States" only convince me they haxored themselves.
Meanwhile, can we please drop the "stolen valor" crap? :timeout:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d8nEGdBU1w
Ms. Lefty also served in the USAF as both enlisted and an officer. I'm pretty sure she retired at 20 years but don't quote me on that, its really none of my business.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWMZcwcDFA8
Gov. Jesse is, well, Gov. Jesse. :arrgh!: I'm pretty sure he made it to Chief in the USN before he started wrasslin'. You either love him or you love to hate him. :hmmm:
Buddahaid
08-10-24, 11:37 PM
Bone spurs that amazingly just healed up later after the war.
https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290105-trump-got-five-draft-deferments-during-vietnam/
Trump's personal Vietnam was avoiding STD's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQcTOxaW62s
Trump saying McCain is not a hero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNugcPeCZZE
This is the great hero MAGA wants to elect.
Buddahaid
08-11-24, 12:47 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4926448/amp/Meghan-McCain-goes-Trump-physically-mocking-dad.html
Captain DJT Bonespurs mocks McCain for not raising his arm. Such an inspiring leader everyone should be proud of and most especially vets.
Buddahaid
08-11-24, 05:33 AM
https://youtu.be/3WV_Ocov-Dk?si=cGmrMGgGrL11eo9N
Patriotism.
Excellent! :Kaleun_Applaud:
Jimbuna
08-11-24, 10:24 AM
Don't do as I did just do as I say.
Jimbuna
08-11-24, 10:30 AM
I think what you wrote it is better related to the above, not Mapuc :03:
Because after the first failed storm on the capitol what does anyone think happens this time if Trump loses again? May well be the end of democracy in the US. On the other hand what is a democracy worth where only the richest people have a chance to even become a candidate.
:Kaleun_Wink:
Yep :yep:
Jimbuna
08-11-24, 10:44 AM
Biden says pressure from Nancy Pelosi led him to drop out of race
Joe Biden has said that he dropped out of the presidential race because of pressure from Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats in Congress.
The US President, who endorsed Kamala Harris as his successor last month, insisted that his contest with Donald Trump was “neck and neck” but said disquiet from his own party was becoming a “distraction”.
“What happened was a number of my Democratic colleagues in the House and the Senate thought that I was going to hurt them in the races,” he told CBS News on Sunday.
“I was concerned that if I stayed in the race that would be the topic you’d be interviewing me about – why did Nancy Pelosi say... And I thought it would be a real distraction.”
Ms Pelosi, the former speaker of the House of Representatives, is reported to have privately urged Mr Biden to drop out of the race and presented him with polling showing he could not beat Trump.
She told The New York Times on Thursday that she had “never been that impressed” with the Biden campaign and suggested she feared he would not win the presidential election.
Several of those who had told the US President to make way for a younger successor were allied to Ms Pelosi.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/biden-says-pressure-from-nancy-pelosi-led-him-to-drop-out-of-race/ar-AA1oBX9Q?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=1e09aafc27844279b22800f5ab2afc01&ei=72
AVGWarhawk
08-11-24, 11:20 AM
Biden says pressure from Nancy Pelosi led him to drop out of race
Of course. She said he will need the time to pose for his image added to Mount Rushmore. He is just one of those presidents of our time. He will have no time to run a country. :doh: Pelosi is a lush.
AVGWarhawk
08-11-24, 11:27 AM
https://youtu.be/3WV_Ocov-Dk?si=cGmrMGgGrL11eo9N
Patriotism.
What Patriotism "should" mean. According to Commander Jones...not everyone is a patriot because they are not away from family, running into burning building or putting everyone else in front of you. He seems a bit bitter.
Jimbuna
08-11-24, 11:35 AM
It's beginning to look like Harris is currently dominating the media attention.
....and how is Trump taking this ? That Harris seems to getting all the attention and more people at her rallies than Trump.
Markus
Buddahaid
08-11-24, 11:48 AM
....and how is Trump taking this ? That Harris seems to getting all the attention and more people at her rallies than Trump.
Markus
Well, all the polls Trump was crowing about when he was leading, he's now calling fake news when he's trailing.
Jimbuna
08-11-24, 11:49 AM
I should imagine not very well.
AVGWarhawk
08-11-24, 02:07 PM
It's beginning to look like Harris is currently dominating the media attention.
She has since day 1.
AVGWarhawk
08-11-24, 02:16 PM
Well, all the polls Trump was crowing about when he was leading, he's now calling fake news when he's trailing.
Polls manipulate.and influence. Trump is not immune to them either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIMAgkvNh6I
AVGWarhawk
08-11-24, 07:42 PM
What the heck....no reflection
AVGWarhawk
08-11-24, 07:43 PM
Double Post
What the heck....
I've seen that. Photoshop crowd that is not being reflected on the shiny fuselage.
AVGWarhawk
08-11-24, 08:04 PM
I've seen that. Photoshop crowd that is not being reflected on the shiny fuselage.
Just like the media. Smoke and mirrors.
Buddahaid
08-11-24, 10:59 PM
Just like the media. Smoke and mirrors.
You're desperate for anything positive on the unraveling MAGA hat party front. I don't know how one campaigns on a golf course. Your man is afraid to demonstrate his low crowd numbers which isn't surprising since he just keeps repeating the same tired stories that even the MAGA faithful are tired of hearing.
Buddahaid
08-11-24, 11:51 PM
https://meidasnews.com/news/isaac-hayes-estate-demands-trump-pay-3-million
Trump to be sued for copyright infringement.
Buddahaid
08-12-24, 12:04 AM
Nobody died on Jan 6th yet Trump is being sued for just that.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-police-officers-family-sues-trump-over-death-2023-01-06/
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 05:10 AM
You're desperate for anything positive on the unraveling MAGA hat party front. I don't know how one campaigns on a golf course. Your man is afraid to demonstrate his low crowd numbers which isn't surprising since he just keeps repeating the same tired stories that even the MAGA faithful are tired of hearing.
Nope, I'm pointing out the propaganda. Many are tired of hearing Hitler, democracy will be gone, the economy will crash, he is a dictator, a fascist. On and on it goes. See the media for what it is. Words that have one kill another. Main stream media cannot be trusted to share real news with the public. They do their part in propaganda and lies to protect the elected officials in government. That is the biggest problem which led up to the indoctrination of the young and the uneducated citizens.
The media has gone full blown gaslighting Harris. It's shameful.
Jimbuna
08-12-24, 06:46 AM
A quick guide to the life of Donald Trump https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67914569
Jimbuna
08-12-24, 07:06 AM
It would appear Harris is currently in the ascendancy and Chris I tend to agree with your last post above.
Kamala Harris raises $12m at San Francisco fundraiser with California elites Pelosi and Newsom
Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris has raised a staggering $12m from a high-profile fundraiser in her home state of California after concluding her tour of crucial swing states with new running mate Tim Walz.
Joined by former House speaker Nancy Pelosi and state Governor Gavin Newsom in a hotel ballroom in San Francisco, the Oakland-born vice president told the crowd: “It’s good to be home.”
“This is a room full of dear, dear friends and longstanding supporters – folks I have known for my entire career... We’ve been through a lot together,” she said.
“I want to thank everyone in here for your love and longstanding support and friendship and for your dedication to this country.”
Harris went on to warn her 700-strong audience that healthcare, abortion access and LGBT+ rights would all be under threat should a second Donald Trump term come to fruition.
“We know what we need to do – we need to knock on doors, we need to register folks to vote, we need to get people to the polls. And every day matters,” she said.
“That’s why we’re going to win, but let’s not take anything for granted.”
Speaking of her whirlwind tour through Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona and, lastly, Nevada to introduce Walz to her supporters, Harris said: “Folks are coming to these events and they’re bringing with them so much joy. People are singing and they’re dancing in the aisles long before we get there.
“They’re showing up not only because we must beat Donald Trump, they’re showing up because they believe in our country and our freedom.”
Harris clearly saw the evening as a homecoming, reminiscing with Newsom about the day in 2004 when they took their oath of office together in San Francisco, she as the liberal city’s new district attorney and he as its mayor.
Pelosi – who was said to have played a crucial role in pushing President Joe Biden to step aside from the 2024 race – had introduced the vice president on stage.
“This is a good day when we welcome Kamala Harris back home to California,” she said.
“She makes us all so proud, she brings us so much joy, she gives us so much hope.”
Tickets for Sunday’s donor event cost between $3,300 and $500,000, according to The LA Times.
San Francisco Mayor London Breed, Rep Barbara Lee, San Francisco Giants Chief Executive Larry Baer and Hollywood movie mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg were all in attendance, according to Bloomberg.
While her campaign continues to go from strength to strength, Biden has now given his first interview since stepping down from the race.
Speaking to CBS News, he again stressed his belief that democracy itself is on the ballot in November and the importance of beating Trump once again.
Biden also conceded that he had allowed speculation about his future to become a “distraction” before making way for Harris.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/kamala-harris-raises-12m-at-san-francisco-fundraiser-with-california-elites-pelosi-and-newsom/ar-AA1oEipp?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=db3b5bccf7c745a3b0ae0e13aea95c0e&ei=14
Buddahaid
08-12-24, 07:27 AM
Nope, I'm pointing out the propaganda. Many are tired of hearing Hitler, democracy will be gone, the economy will crash, he is a dictator, a fascist. On and on it goes. See the media for what it is. Words that have one kill another. Main stream media cannot be trusted to share real news with the public. They do their part in propaganda and lies to protect the elected officials in government. That is the biggest problem which led up to the indoctrination of the young and the uneducated citizens.
The media has gone full blown gaslighting Harris. It's shameful.
And still all you say the left is smearing Trump with has been validated by Trump’s own words.
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 07:43 AM
And still all you say the left is smearing Trump with has been validated by Trump’s own words.
See the forest for the trees. We, the common tax payer, will lose no matter what. The media drives it. Democracy did not die at the hands of Dems/Repubs. I has died by media manipulation.
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 08:04 AM
It would appear Harris is currently in the ascendancy and Chris I tend to agree with your last post above.
The media drives the narrative. Media fluff. Media fluff helped some very historical figures rise to power. One that started a war! Currently the media has provide a complete transformation of Harris. She has flipped her script. Everyone is apparently cool with that. She has no real platform. She has what Pelosi is feeding her. She is a stooge. She has yet to realize it.
You'd think the government would intervene and put a stop to media misinformation!! :k_confused:
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 08:10 AM
You'd think the government would intervene and put a stop to media misinformation!! :k_confused:
Freedom of the press.
Rockstar
08-12-24, 09:06 AM
UK cracking down on social media accounts posting about the violent Islamics in UK. Now UK is attacking Douglas Murray. UK is basically done.
Its already happening here too. Tulsi Gabbard was placed a domestic watchlist after a televised interview.
A few weeks ago, I had the audacity to tell the truth: that Kamala Harris would essentially be a mouthpiece and puppet of the Military Industrial Complex and National Security State. The next day, July 23, they retaliated. Sadly this is what we can expect from the “Harris” Administration.
https://youtu.be/09eVb2eomKo
Jimbuna
08-12-24, 09:41 AM
I'm not sure what planet this guy lives on but it shouldn't be long before he claims something like 'If I'd been around during the crucifixion it wouldn't have happened'
Trump tries to take credit for LA 2028 Olympics – and slams Obama over the bid https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-tries-to-take-credit-for-la-2028-olympics-and-slams-obama-over-the-bid/ar-AA1oEWH3?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3053368f5bda47b285dac2dc2f992a75&ei=21
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 09:49 AM
UK cracking down on social media accounts posting about the violent Islamics in UK. Now UK is attacking Douglas Murray. UK is basically done.
Its already happening here too. Tulsi Gabbard was placed a domestic watchlist after a televised interview.
https://youtu.be/09eVb2eomKo
Harris will be a puppet to the political machine. She already is. She moved from way left to center. She did not think this up on her own.
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 09:51 AM
I'm not sure what planet this guy lives on but it shouldn't be long before he claims something like 'If I'd been around during the crucifixion it wouldn't have happened'
Trump tries to take credit for LA 2028 Olympics – and slams Obama over the bid https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-tries-to-take-credit-for-la-2028-olympics-and-slams-obama-over-the-bid/ar-AA1oEWH3?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3053368f5bda47b285dac2dc2f992a75&ei=21
He is something else. As I posted not long ago in this thread, he will claim to saved the world and galaxy economy.
Jimbuna
08-12-24, 09:54 AM
He is something else. As I posted not long ago in this thread, he will claim to saved the world and galaxy economy.
Yes he can be a source of entertainment I'll give you that :)
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 09:56 AM
Yes he can be a source of entertainment I'll give you that :)
Just really bad reality TV.
Jimbuna
08-12-24, 10:01 AM
Just really bad reality TV.
Not bad viewing actually. When I look at our pathetic political leadership I bring myself back round by reminding myself we could have been stuck with Trump :)
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 10:02 AM
Not bad viewing actually. When I look at our pathetic political leadership I bring myself back round by reminding myself we could have been stuck with Trump :)
Yes sir. You got that going for you!
Buddahaid
08-12-24, 10:41 AM
See the forest for the trees. We, the common tax payer, will lose no matter what. The media drives it. Democracy did not die at the hands of Dems/Repubs. I has died by media manipulation.
Is it manipulation to hold Trump to his words when he so obviously lies?
An easy tell is whenever he does the accordion hands thing, he's making up stuff.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-tale-of-a-harrowing-helicopter-ride-and-emergency-landing-didnt-happen-willie-brown-says/ar-AA1ox1rH?ocid=BingNewsSerp
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 10:44 AM
Is it manipulation to hold Trump to his words when he so obviously lies?
An easy tell is whenever he does the accordion hands thing, he's making up stuff.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-tale-of-a-harrowing-helicopter-ride-and-emergency-landing-didnt-happen-willie-brown-says/ar-AA1ox1rH?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Stop focusing on the one and look at the total overall picture of what the media does.
Buddahaid
08-12-24, 11:35 AM
It seems to me the overall media coverage has been more than obliging to Trump for some years and it is now not covering for him and trying to tell us what he meant to say or editing out the uncomfortable parts.
Didn't his crazy press conference get full coverage while the Harris rally on the same day was ignored for Olympic coverage?
Didn't the press post daily updates on Clinton's hacked emails before the 2016 election while today Politico says it wouldn't be right to post Trump's hacked emails?
What's going on is Trump is now boring and mainstream media thrives on stirring up trouble for ratings.
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 11:41 AM
It seems to me the overall media coverage has been more than obliging to Trump for some years and it is now not covering for him and trying to tell us what he meant to say or editing out the uncomfortable parts.
Didn't his crazy press conference get full coverage while the Harris rally on the same day was ignored for Olympic coverage?
Didn't the press post daily updates on Clinton's hacked emails before the 2016 election while today Politico says it wouldn't be right to post Trump's hacked emails?
What's going on is Trump is now boring and mainstream media thrives on stirring up trouble for ratings.
Overall obliging? That is a hoot. In fact, if it was not for Trump for the past 8 years the media would have nothing to report, real or imagined. Always in the negative light. Every late night host would not have a monologue if not for Trump. The View would be silent for 1 hour ever day.
He should have had coverage the day he held a press conference. There is an election coming up last I checked. Beside, it only turns into more press fodder and new monologue material. Kamala is not talking to the press. She should be ignored. She is ignoring the press. Besides, it was the Break Dancing competition at the Olympics. A hell of a lot more interesting than Harris. :har:
100% the media stirs up trouble for ratings. Enter The View. :doh:
The media is an awful entity.
Rockstar
08-12-24, 11:52 AM
Overall obliging? That is a hoot. In fact, if it was not for Trump for the past 8 years the media would have nothing to report, real or imagined. Always in the negative light. Every late night host would not have a monologue if not for Trump. The View would be silent for 1 hour ever day.
He should have had coverage the day he held a press conference. There is an election coming up last I checked. Beside, it only turns into more press fodder and new monologue material. Kamala is not talking to the press. She should be ignored. She is ignoring the press. Besides, it was the Break Dancing competition at the Olympics. A hell of a lot more interesting than Harris. :har:
100% the media stirs up trouble for ratings. Enter The View. :doh:
The media is an awful entity.
Don’t forget corporate sponsorship. They gotta keep the lights on and pay the talking heads too ya know. And of course to keep that sponsorship they have to toe corporate line.
Buddahaid
08-12-24, 11:53 AM
Whyever does Harris need to make a press conference, just because Trump did? You may have noticed she's on the campaign trail giving rallies to packed arenas while Trump is giving invitation only press conferences at his club and playing golf because his rallies are not as large as Harris's.
He's at sea without Biden to crap on so he's pouting while his handlers try to find the jumper cables.
Some expert on image says that the famous picture from the airport is genuin and not photoshopped-He was in our Danish news where he told us this.
Whether he is right or not is up to you to decide.
I myself wonder why there isn't any reflection in on the side of the engine. Maybe there's a good explanation to this.
Markus
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 12:03 PM
Whyever does Harris need to make a press conference, just because Trump did? You may have noticed she's on the campaign trail giving rallies to packed arenas while Trump is giving invitation only press conferences at his club and playing golf because his rallies are not as large as Harris's.
He's at sea without Biden to crap on so he's pouting while his handlers try to find the jumper cables.
She needs to talk to the press. People want some substance. She has been called out on her failed VP position and her AG career. Set the record straight. She can't. Her handlers know it. The frat party continues.
Trump is on the campaign trail. He gets a press conference together. She can't.
Biden is busy working on WW3.
Rockstar
08-12-24, 12:05 PM
Whyever does Harris need to make a press conference, just because Trump did? You may have noticed she's on the campaign trail giving rallies to packed arenas while Trump is giving invitation only press conferences at his club and playing golf because his rallies are not as large as Harris's.
He's at sea without Biden to crap on so he's pouting while his handlers try to find the jumper cables.
Why? Because not every voter can attend the rallies and would like to hear what her intentions are especially she expects their vote. That should be really easy to do with today’s technology.
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 12:05 PM
Some expert on image says that the famous picture from the airport is genuin and not photoshopped-He was in our Danish news where he told us this.
Whether he is right or not is up to you to decide.
I myself wonder why there isn't any reflection in on the side of the engine. Maybe there's a good explanation to this.
Markus
TSA requirements and airport security, a crowd like this is not permitted on the airport tarmac.
Buddahaid
08-12-24, 12:21 PM
TSA requirements and airport security, a crowd like this is not permitted on the airport tarmac.
That crowd was contained in a hangar and not roaming free on the tarmac. Try to keep up.
Taken from a Danish article
But his desire that it is Joe Biden who is his counterpart is so strong that he has developed such a whole theory that it will probably happen at the Democrats' convention that it will be Joe Biden again. And this is in the same category. This means that many - with good reason - can question his basic judgement.
https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/politik/ekspert-efter-trump-melding-han-er-vred-og-desperat/10330261?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Markus
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 12:23 PM
That crowd was contained in a hangar and not roaming free on the tarmac. Try to keep up.
Sorry. I don't believe it. Proved a proof positive link.
Buddahaid
08-12-24, 12:32 PM
https://meidasnews.com/news/trump-has-psychological-break-from-reality-falsely-claiming-kamala-harris-massive-crowds-are-ai-and-fake
The validity is up to you, of course.
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 12:35 PM
https://meidasnews.com/news/trump-has-psychological-break-from-reality-falsely-claiming-kamala-harris-massive-crowds-are-ai-and-fake
The validity is up to you, of course.
Does not appear to legit IMO.
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 03:15 PM
Start at .23 seconds into the video. This is what Dems are excited about?
https://youtu.be/IxI0180LHxc?si=g7I11AiWN-o4ZuHn
Buddahaid
08-12-24, 03:40 PM
"...Trump's chances of winning the election in November look "bleak" after a new poll showed more Americans trust Kamala Harris with the economy, analysts told Newsweek."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-harris-more-trusted-on-economy-as-donald-trump-loses-major-advantage/ar-AA1oDS0K?ocid=BingNewsSerp
I thought a certain percentage of those who will vote Harris does it to prevent Trump from winning.
I sort of feel sorry for Trump-He love to be in the spotlight and now the spotlight is on Harris.
Trump should change attitude and concentrate on what politics he will be using when or if he wins. Only attacking Harris on her weak politics.
Because it's mystery for me that American who have had 4 years with Dems politics with open border as one of the problems, are going to give them 4 more years, like it would be a mystery for me that American will give Trump 4 more year.
Markus
Von Due
08-12-24, 03:54 PM
Does not appear to legit IMO.
Not gonna touch any interpretation of his mental state but apparently, he did claim fakery
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2lmm2wwlyo
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 05:27 PM
"...Trump's chances of winning the election in November look "bleak" after a new poll showed more Americans trust Kamala Harris with the economy, analysts told Newsweek."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-harris-more-trusted-on-economy-as-donald-trump-loses-major-advantage/ar-AA1oDS0K?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Yeah, sure. Everyone is struggling to pay for bills, etc. Harris will fix it. Utter BS
AVGWarhawk
08-12-24, 05:28 PM
Biden's election interference scheme. Any way to get a vote. Stacking the deck.
https://heritageaction.com/press/heritage-praises-indiana-effort-to-fight-bidens-election-interference-scheme
Rockstar
08-12-24, 06:46 PM
"...Trump's chances of winning the election in November look "bleak" after a new poll showed more Americans trust Kamala Harris with the economy, analysts told Newsweek."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-harris-more-trusted-on-economy-as-donald-trump-loses-major-advantage/ar-AA1oDS0K?ocid=BingNewsSerp.
I really hope Americans are not as stupid as you and that
Brit twat in London Giulia Carbonaro think they are. Harris/Biden had four years to fix the economy and it’s not getting better, contrary to what Biden said he did not “cure the economy”. If you read the July SLOOS & jobs reports they indicate the economy is actually getting worse and we can expect a hard landing and possibly a very long recession.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAKc1O5_-hI
Buddahaid
08-12-24, 09:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em1wXiGee58
Jimbuna
08-13-24, 05:01 AM
Trump and his allies once cheered hacked materials. No longer, now that they say he's a target
Donald Trump was once a cheerleader of publicizing hacked materials. “Russia, if you're listening,” Trump said during a press conference in his 2016 presidential run, when Hillary Clinton's deleted personal emails were a hot topic, “I hope you are able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”
“I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,” he said back then.
That changed when Trump's latest presidential campaign declared this weekend it had been hacked by Iran. "Any media or news outlet reprinting documents or internal communications are doing the bidding of America’s enemies and doing exactly what they want,” Steven Cheung, the campaign's communications director, said in a statement on Saturday announcing that the campaign had been hacked.
The campaign has not responded to questions about why its view on hacking changed, including a query on Monday from The Associated Press. But its new position is a striking change from 2016, when Trump heartily embraced the Russian hacking of his opponent Clinton's aides and the Democratic National Committee.
The current hack, so far, is murky.
On Friday, Microsoft issued a report stating that Iranian hackers tried to penetrate the account of an official with one of the presidential campaigns, but did not disclose additional details. On Saturday, the Trump campaign announced it had been hacked, though it also did not identify the individual whose account was breached. It did so after Politico said it had been contacted by an unknown source peddling what was represented to be internal documents from the campaign.
Iran has denied being involved in any hack. The U.S. government has not confirmed that any breach has occurred. On Monday, the FBI said in a statement it was investigating the matter.
In 2016, intelligence officials said Russian hackers obtained thousands of emails from the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and the personal account of Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta. The initial batches came out in the summer, as Clinton clinched the Democratic nomination.
That was when Trump encouraged Russia to find his rival's personal emails. He later argued he was joking.
The hacked material was released through third parties, including the online site Wikileaks, which began to publish daily tranches of Democratic documents in October, just after a videotape of Trump bragging about how he'd sexually assaulted women was disclosed.
Trump routinely touted the Democratic leaks at his campaign rallies, including declaring at one: “I love Wikileaks."
The leaked documents received ample news coverage, and Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a communications professor at the University of Pennsylvania who wrote the book “Cyberwar” on the 2016 hacking, said she found that coverage was what won the election for Trump.
“2016 was not an instance of which journalists should be proud,” Jamieson said in an interview Monday, adding that the greatest question is how news organizations apply their standards to whatever material finds itself in the public domain.
“That Trump is saying what is electorally convenient is not a surprise,” Jamieson said. “This is not a person for whom inconsistency is a concern.”
Nick Merrill was a spokesman for Clinton's 2016 campaign and pushed back against publication of the hacked documents at the time. On Monday, he noted the Trump campaign was in a similar role this time.
“In addition to the characteristic hypocrisy, they just spent three weeks trying to explain they're not weird,” Merrill said via text. “And I'd imagine that sharing their internal correspondence is going to help dispel that notion.”
Asked if that meant he now thought hacked materials should be published, Merrill replied: “A precedent has been set here. I'm not passing judgment on it.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/trump-and-his-allies-once-cheered-hacked-materials-no-longer-now-that-they-say-he-s-a-target/ar-AA1oG9w0?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=95d5df4da15248ddac8483f997c493cb&ei=27
Buddahaid
08-13-24, 06:22 AM
https://youtu.be/IKRe0NVE_yw?si=eeEZd1kvfmoeZf8r
Jimbuna
08-13-24, 06:22 AM
Still a long way to go yet but I'm not sure Trump was expecting this.
Bombshell poll shows presidential candidate taking five-point lead
Kamala Harris maintains a lead on Donald Trump both overall and with independent voters in a new poll. Harris is ahead with 47% while former President Trump is on 44%, according to a survey of 11,778 voters conducted by Morning Consult between August 9 and 11.
The current vice president was at 48% in the same poll last week but maintains that survey's 42-37 lead over Trump with independent voters. At least 12% said they would vote for an independent. Morning Consult has had Harris in the lead in every poll they've taken since the end of July when they started surveying her against Trump.
The survey was the first one the pollster has taken since Harris announced Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her running mate. Harris' top demographics include black voters (73%-18%) and voters aged 18-34 (48%-41%). That matches up with a new poll of Gen Z and millennial voters in battleground states found the vice president leading the ex-president 51 percent to 42 percent in a head-to-head matchup.
The poll sponsored by Don't PAC Down, which surveyed voters ages 18 to 29 across eight crucial states, is a major shift from before President Biden dropped out of the race last month. Harris has continued her recent surge in popularity with 49% of voters viewing her favorably vs. 47% viewing her negatively, where as Trump's net favorables are at a minus-12. However, the Harris honeymoon may be on the wane, as not only did she drop by one point from last week, voters have their most negative view of the economy in the survey's last year of polling.
The recent downturn - which Trump has referred to as the 'Kamala Crash' - has negative opinions of the economy out-rating positive ones by 24 points. Trump was the red-hot favorite last month when he triumphantly appeared at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee after being shot in an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania.
But after Harris took over from Biden, the liberal media has gone full-swing behind her campaign and she has seized momentum. The latest polling average from Real Clear Politics shows that Harris has a half-point lead over Trump. In the betting averages that lead is higher at 5.8 percentage points. In one recent example, Harris was more trusted on the economy than Trump - marking a big shift in voter sentiment following Biden's decision to drop out. The survey, for the Financial Times and the Ross School of Business, found that Harris had a 1-point advantage. It is the first time a Democrat presidential candidate has led Trump on the economy since the poll started tracking voter sentiment on the issue almost a year ago.
Another poll by New York Times / Siena College last week found that Harris has moved ahead in the key battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Among likely voters in each state, 50 percent said they would likely vote for Harris while 46 for Trump.
Trump has begun his fight back Monday with a much-hyped interview with Elon Musk on X Spaces, however it drew some controversy after it started late due to technical snafus . However, donors are worried about Trump's recent strategy, according to The New York Times. At an August 2 dinner in The Hamptons, Trump's big backers hoped he would 'signal that he was recalibrating after a series of damaging mistakes.' But he discussed his 'stop the steal' claims about the election being rigged in 2020 which advisers have reportedly told him to drop.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/bombshell-poll-shows-presidential-candidate-taking-five-point-lead/ss-AA1oIb1r?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=29e35bacd3b14a1cab01ba7529019c2d&ei=22#image=1
Buddahaid
08-13-24, 07:21 AM
https://youtu.be/MbtGUgYUCJo?si=pikFTS6hLVEo_3HA
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 07:25 AM
https://youtu.be/IKRe0NVE_yw?si=eeEZd1kvfmoeZf8r
He is attacking him for his apparent stolen valor. Should he kiss Walz ass because he is entitled to the GI Bill for college?
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 07:26 AM
https://youtu.be/MbtGUgYUCJo?si=pikFTS6hLVEo_3HA
I stopped at the first 15 seconds. Kamala Harris is not protecting democracy. 14 million votes for Biden were shat on. Kamala was installed without 1 vote. That is not protecting democracy.
Buddahaid
08-13-24, 07:41 AM
https://youtu.be/gRyKQ7p3qd4?si=8onJ118TT36WYthx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4_dUtdU4Fk
Buddahaid
08-13-24, 07:55 AM
The American Bar Association has started a task force to ensure election integrity.
“ The mission of the ABA Task Force for American Democracy is to: (i) bolster voter confidence in elections by safeguarding the integrity and non-partisan administration of elections, and by providing support for election workers and officials; (ii) educate Americans on democracy and the rule of law and why they are foundational to every aspect of American lives; and (iii) suggest ideas to the American people for improving and strengthening our democracy and our elections”
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/leadership/office_of_the_president/american-democracy/our-work/
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 08:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4_dUtdU4Fk
Her campaign is nothing short of spring break in Daytona Beach FL. Just keep the party atmosphere going. The voters will be so drunk on party time adrenaline they will not notice she has nothing to offer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz3RsytkmmA
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 08:13 AM
The American Bar Association has started a task force to ensure election integrity.
“ The mission of the ABA Task Force for American Democracy is to: (i) bolster voter confidence in elections by safeguarding the integrity and non-partisan administration of elections, and by providing support for election workers and officials; (ii) educate Americans on democracy and the rule of law and why they are foundational to every aspect of American lives; and (iii) suggest ideas to the American people for improving and strengthening our democracy and our elections”
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/leadership/office_of_the_president/american-democracy/our-work/
Means nothing when one party stacks the deck with no ID required and mail in ballots. Confidence is zero. Integrity shot to hell.
Rockstar
08-13-24, 08:13 AM
The American Bar Association has started a task force to ensure election integrity.
“ The mission of the ABA Task Force for American Democracy is to: (i) bolster voter confidence in elections by safeguarding the integrity and non-partisan administration of elections, and by providing support for election workers and officials; (ii) educate Americans on democracy and the rule of law and why they are foundational to every aspect of American lives; and (iii) suggest ideas to the American people for improving and strengthening our democracy and our elections”
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/leadership/office_of_the_president/american-democracy/our-work/
I don’t know much about the ABA or how it operates I can’t find anything out of the ordinary. What they propose seems like a reasonable cause.
Rockstar
08-13-24, 09:10 AM
Means nothing when one party stacks the deck with no ID required and mail in ballots. Confidence is zero. Integrity shot to hell.
It is unfortunate its still lawful to obtain a mail ballot without an ID in some states. I reckon we’ll see how serious the ABA is about protecting elections from fraud and abuse.
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 09:19 AM
It is unfortunate its still lawful to obtain a mail ballot without an ID in some states. I reckon we’ll see how serious the ABA is about protecting elections from fraud and abuse.
How serious can they be when the numbers of mail in ballots are so overwhelming? The number of voters who have no ID. This was done by Biden.
Case and point, my BIL went to vote for our local elections. He provided his name and address. He was told he voted that morning. He was sent away. He lost his vote to someone who LIED. This is so called Democracy.
How serious can they be when the numbers of mail in ballots are so overwhelming? The number of voters who have no ID. This was done by Biden.
Case and point, my BIL went to vote for our local elections. He provided his name and address. He was told he voted that morning. He was sent away. He lost his vote to someone who LIED. This is so called Democracy.
They can't do too much of that or it will become impossible to hide. This is why they wait until the polls close so they can see who voted and supply democrat votes for the ones who didn't.
Buddahaid
08-13-24, 09:52 AM
Trump is boring his base. 12:27
https://youtu.be/-VW6tHIcGfc?t=746
Would like to know following:
1. How many is going to vote on Harris for her appearance ?
2. How many, in percentage, is going to vote blue to avoid Trump ?
3. How much, in percentage, do you think there will be vote fraud ?
I guess it's impossible to give a straight answer to these questions
Markus
Rockstar
08-13-24, 11:07 AM
Would like to know following:
1. How many is going to vote on Harris for her appearance ?
2. How many, in percentage, is going to vote blue to avoid Trump ?
3. How much, in percentage, do you think there will be vote fraud ?
I guess it's impossible to give a straight answer to these questions
Markus
It’s impossible to know the answers. But you can be certain people are working over time to show Harris in a different light.
https://youtu.be/9NCbzAD4_YM
Onkel Neal
08-13-24, 11:40 AM
Good vs Evil
"Good vs Evil"? That sounds like delusional thinking. More like "Inept vs ego-driver" would be more accurate. Yeah, I understand ppl not liking Trump but when they tout the Dems as "good", they lose me. Your party has been lying and gaslighting the people of this country for 10 years, mate. No excusing that.
And with the failure to enforce our borders, it's like you declared war on America.
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 11:55 AM
They can't do too much of that or it will become impossible to hide. This is why they wait until the polls close so they can see who voted and supply democrat votes for the ones who didn't.
Yes, the "late" mail in ballots.
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 12:02 PM
"Good vs Evil"? That sounds like delusional thinking. More like "Inept vs ego-driver" would be more accurate. Yeah, I understand ppl not liking Trump but when they tout the Dems as "good", they lose me. Your party has been lying and gaslighting the people of this country for 10 years, mate. No excusing that.
And with the failure to enforce our borders, it's like you declared war on America.
Thank both the media and Democratic machine in DC. The border issue is declaring war on America, it is also permitting voting of millions of undocumented/illegals. No voter ID required brought to you by Joe Biden.
Buddahaid
08-13-24, 12:10 PM
And yet the border bill was killed by MAGA on Trump’s orders. Seems like having a border problem is more important than having a solution. The GOP has no moral high ground in that fight.
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 12:18 PM
And yet the border bill was killed by MAGA on Trump’s orders. Seems like having a border problem is more important than having a solution. The GOP has no moral high ground in that fight.
To which the border issue fact finding, assessment and solution was placed squarely on Harris shoulders. She went to the border once to show face. Her recommendation(and can assure you was not hers because she does not think much beyond getting a new pair of shoes) is to pour billions into SA infrastructure making it a paradise where people would not want to leave for the USA. Damn bizarre.
Buddahaid
08-13-24, 12:32 PM
Your misogyny is showing.
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 12:34 PM
Your misogyny is showing.
Typical response when it is not going your way. No, my not doing your job is showing. She DID NOT do her job. It is a undeniable fact.
Onkel Neal
08-13-24, 01:40 PM
And yet the border bill was killed by MAGA on Trump’s orders. Seems like having a border problem is more important than having a solution. The GOP has no moral high ground in that fight.
Go ahead and describe why "MAGA" killed the border bill. No? As expected of the left, you would rather claim a falsehood. Where's your moral high ground?
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-republicans-block-bipartisan-border-package-scrapping-deal-they-had-demanded-from-democrats
The Senate bill would have done little to improve border security or reduce illegal immigration into the United States. There’s good reason to believe, even, that it would have increased illegal immigration across the southern border.
The most important point to understand is that the Senate bill did not even attempt to address the known pull factors for illegal immigration across the southern border. These pull factors include, principally, the near-guarantee of release into the United States after apprehension by a U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) officer.
Migrants can expect a near-guarantee of release for a few reasons. Primarily, an almost 30-year-old court settlement prohibits the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) from detaining migrants who arrive to the United States with a child, or as a family unit, for more than 20 days. At the time the settlement was issued 20 days could be reasonably expected to complete immigration proceedings for illegal border-crossers. Given today’s immigration court backlogs, however, it is nearly impossible to provide a final decision on an alien’s immigration case in 20 days.
What Would the Senate Bill Have Done, Then? Well, first, it would have given a lot of money to DHS and NGOs to process migrants, i.e., further funding many of the institutional problems that have allowed the crisis to grow to the scale it has.
Second, it would have allowed DHS to remove ICE and immigration judges from the asylum process altogether by requiring USCIS asylum officers (who typically only screen migrants for credible fear cases, not make final decisions on their cases) to release migrants from detention and allowed them to make final decisions on those cases. It would have also provided additional funding to the USCIS asylum division to do so because the asylum division is already underwater and experiencing historic backlogs. (Sources from USCIS tell me that the affirmative asylum backlog (i.e., asylum cases that are not filed as a defense to removal, but often by aliens who already have lawful immigration statuses) alone has already exceeded one million cases, for the first time ever. That means that an applicant who files an affirmative asylum application today may not receive a decision on their case for as long as a decade.)
Asylum officers have meaningful incentives to rubberstamp asylum applications. Moreover, asylum officers are not required to have law degrees (many, in fact, do not), but will be asked to make complex and final legal decisions that cannot be appealed by an ICE attorney if an application is erroneously granted.
Third, the Senate bill tried to spend another $1.29 billion on the flawed Alternatives to Detention (ATD) program and provide nearly $7 billion in funding to NGOs and state or local governments to provide housing, transportation, medical care, and other services to migrants, and even foreign governments. In short, the bill would have expanded what we sometimes call the “illegal immigration industrial complex.”
Nothing about this is border security. Rather, it was designed to streamline illegal immigration and obscure the crisis from American voters.
House Republicans were right to declare last month that the bill would be “dead upon arrival”. They didn’t need Donald Trump to tell them to kill it.
Buddahaid
08-13-24, 02:24 PM
Typical response when it is not going your way. No, my not doing your job is showing. She DID NOT do her job. It is a undeniable fact.
I'm fine with the way it's going, are you?
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 02:29 PM
I'm fine with the way it's going, are you?
No sir. I'm not sure if you have kids. Mine are struggling. It was not that way 4 years ago. What happened? Yes, Might Joe Young and his executive orders pen and VP Giggles who was really the sleepy one.
Makes one wonder
How would Trump have handle this immigration crisis-If he had been elected ?
There wouldn't be any crisis-You may say. On the contrary this immigration crisis would happened whoever had been your President.
The question would instead be-Who would have handled the situation best ?
Markus
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 02:41 PM
Makes one wonder
How would Trump have handle this immigration crisis-If he had been elected ?
There wouldn't be any crisis-You may say. On the contrary this immigration crisis would happened whoever had been your President.
The question would instead be-Who would have handled the situation best ?
Markus
Build a wall. :Kaleun_Wink:
Buddahaid
08-13-24, 02:41 PM
Makes one wonder
How would Trump have handle this immigration crisis-If he had been elected ?
There wouldn't be any crisis-You may say. On the contrary this immigration crisis would happened whoever had been your President.
The question would instead be-Who would have handled the situation best ?
Markus
His plan is mass deportation without due process. It will be stopped in the courts as illegal and become another Trump failure.
Buddahaid
08-13-24, 02:44 PM
No sir. I'm not sure if you have kids. Mine are struggling. It was not that way 4 years ago. What happened? Yes, Might Joe Young and his executive orders pen and VP Giggles who was really the sleepy one.
Funny, I struggled for years as a young adult in the seventies. Maybe that's just life?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/uaw-files-federal-labor-charges-against-donald-trump-and-elon-musk-after-threatening-workers-on-x-interview/ar-AA1oJu9T?ocid=BingNewsSerp
His plan is mass deportation without due process. It will be stopped in the courts as illegal and become another Trump failure.We see this in general all those politicians say "we gone fix your problems vote for us" those problems never get fixed because what they want is usually against law or constitution.
So inevitable, another lie
Another reason to justify tearing it down
Honesty, such a novelty
So we king ourselves with a plastic crown
Casualty of a daydream nation
Close acquaintance, no relation
Search and destroy
Dignity we left laying along the way
To everyone's dismay
Predictable cliché
Kindred enemies
So unavoidable, another fight
Sell the ticket and crash the ride, burn it down
A legacy of brutality
So caught up in the process of weeding out
The chopping block starving for a neck
Pointing fingers and stabbing backs
Never question conformity
The big takeover underway
Much to our dismay
A lucrative display
Perpetual decay
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Left to destroy themselves yet somehow still alive
Battling for the best position
Posturing for recognition
The best days thrown away
In an age of quarrel
Butcher the memories
The walking dead
Living a lie
Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
AVGWarhawk
08-13-24, 02:50 PM
His plan is mass deportation without due process. It will be stopped in the courts as illegal and become another Trump failure.
Mass deportation will never happen. Be real. It is just a good sound bite for Trump.
Funny, I struggled for years as a young adult in the seventies. Maybe that's just life?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/uaw-files-federal-labor-charges-against-donald-trump-and-elon-musk-after-threatening-workers-on-x-interview/ar-AA1oJu9T?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Or the feckless policies of the Demoncrat Carter administration.
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