US Politics Thread 2021-24

[u crank]

Unelectable by whom? 74 million or so voted for the guy and I'm guessing they'd vote for him again in 2024.

Those aren't the only people who will vote. There are a number of reasons why Trump lost in 2020. Some were beyond his control. But some were. Unfortunately it wasn't enough. It is what he did after Nov. 3rd that will hurt him if he tries again.

That having been said, his value is really as a head of a movement that runs candidates with similar values to primary the left-leaning.

Oh I agree. And that is where a guy like DeSantis comes in. Same take no crap attitude but without the drama that you get from Trump. And it is my own belief that people are tired of the drama. It is counter productive.

[3catcircus]

Those aren't the only people who will vote. There are a number of reasons why Trump lost in 2020. Some were beyond his control. But some were. Unfortunately it wasn't enough. It is what he did after Nov. 3rd that will hurt him if he tries again.



Oh I agree. And that is where a guy like DeSantis comes in. Same take no crap attitude but without the drama that you get from Trump. And it is my own belief that people are tired of the drama. It is counter productive.

I think that they are tired of the drama - but the drama is really the left-extreme woke cancel culture that they're tired of. Unlike every other politician who, when confronted with a gotcha (or manufactured gotcha) moment, makes the expected apologies and pleas for mercy (which won't be forthcoming) before being ruined, he doesn't do that. Instead, Trump responds by being so far over the top confrontational that they are all like "No, no, no! That's not what the playbook says you're supposed to do!!". It doesn't hurt that while he's giving them the figurative backhanded bitch-slap, he's doing it with irrefutable facts disguised in exaggeration. He's a master of hyperbolic metaphor, in that regard.

When he referred to Mexican rapists when talking about illegal immigration, for example, it's a dogwhistle to the media and leftists to claim that he's racist because he knows how to push their buttons; everyone with any sense understands his exaggeration because they know that there *are* criminals that make up part of all illegal immigrants - it's an easy win with the hard-core right while moderates understand the nuance in actually enforcing immigration law.

That he referred to the human-trafficking smugglers as coyotes and got leftists to bite thinking he was referring to actual canids just illustrates how low-information many people on Twitter actually are.

[mapuc]

Unelectable by whom? 74 million or so voted for the guy and I'm guessing they'd vote for him again in 2024.

I'm a little confused here.

I thought that only the candidate the party chooses as their candidate is the one the voters can put their vote on.

If I
Either The Rep choose him as their candidate or his new movement(if he starts one)get these 74 + millions votes

Yes there are other independent candidate in your National election-I don't really count these.

Markus

[3catcircus]

I'm a little confused here.

I thought only the candidate the party choosen as their candidate is the one the voters can put their vote on.

Either The Rep choose him as their candidate or his new movement(if he starts one)get these 74 + millions votes

Yes there are other independent candidate in your National election-I don't really count these.

Markus

In the primary elections, voters of a particular party pick from a list of candidates that they want their party to run against candidates of the other party in the general election. Some states have an open primary where active can vote. Most have closed or semi closed primaries where only prime registered for that party can vote in the party primary election.

In the General Election, usually it's Dem and GOP running presidential candidates with a smattering of 3rd party candidates. But you have to jump through a bunch of different laws, at the individual state level, to get in the ballot unless you are nominated by a political party. It may be easier to get a nomination from a 3rd party in most cases.

[Skybird]

The real reason for the storming of the Capitol finally revealed! Somebody spread rumours on that they had stockpiled vaccine in there, and so...
:O:

[August]

In the primary elections, voters of a particular party pick from a list of candidates that they want their party to run against candidates of the other party in the general election.




Yep and I believe that anyone can declare themselves to be a party candidate. Theoretically Trump could run as a Democrat in 2024! It all depends on whether a candidate can get the primary votes.

[Sonicfire1981]

The real reason for the storming of the Capitol finally revealed! Somebody spread rumours on that they had stockpiled vaccine in there, and so...
:O:

Highly unlikely. They believe in trickle-down and would not dare to demand vaccination before the rich all have it.

[AVGWarhawk]

Trump is a loser and the GOP swamp has shown its colors now, egg yellow. I'm looking forward to the right finding a more center and relevant footing. Maybe even a candidate.

What we have seen is elected officials only concerned with their own career and cushy positions.

I’m still try to figure this out. The vote was 57/43 in favor to acquit President Trump. Seven RINOS vote against Trump and its all over the news, including FOX. But, in order for a 57/43 outcome, that means 14 democrats voted in favor to acquit and it doesn’t make the news. Everyone knew the RINOS were going to vote guilty but, didn’t know how many democrats would vote to acquit. Whos are they and why are these are not in the news?

[ET2SN]

There are 100 senators, I'm trying to follow your math? :timeout:

[u crank]

What we have seen is elected officials only concerned with their own career and cushy positions.

I’m still try to figure this out. The vote was 57/43 in favor to acquit President Trump. Seven RINOS vote against Trump and its all over the news, including FOX. But, in order for a 57/43 outcome, that means 14 democrats voted in favor to acquit and it doesn’t make the news. Everyone knew the RINOS were going to vote guilty but, didn’t know how many democrats would vote to acquit. Whos are they and why are these are not in the news?

The 43 number is the number of Republicans who voted to acquit. 48 Democrats, 2 Independants, and 7 Republicans voted guilty. No Democrats voted to acquit.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=117&session=1&vote=00059

[Sonicfire1981]

What we have seen is elected officials only concerned with their own career and cushy positions.

I’m still try to figure this out. The vote was 57/43 in favor to acquit President Trump. Seven RINOS vote against Trump and its all over the news, including FOX. But, in order for a 57/43 outcome, that means 14 democrats voted in favor to acquit and it doesn’t make the news. Everyone knew the RINOS were going to vote guilty but, didn’t know how many democrats would vote to acquit. Whos are they and why are these are not in the news?

It's all a big media conspiracy.
For real, in addition to what u_crank said, you'd have needed 2/3 (67/33 votes) to impeach.

[August]

http://thepilotspub.org/download/file.php?id=15444

[Onkel Neal]

Yep and I believe that anyone can declare themselves to be a party candidate. Theoretically Trump could run as a Democrat in 2024! It all depends on whether a candidate can get the primary votes.

Yeah, but that won't work, the DNC will cut him off at the knees like they did Bernie, Tulsi, and anyone else who steps out of line.

[Onkel Neal]

This is the true unstoppable crisis in America, and it's like watching an avalanche. No matter who wins the next elections, there's no unringing this bell.


Former acting ICE Director Tom Homan told Fox News over the weekend that the recent surge U.S. officials are seeing on the southern border was not an accident but the result of a designed open borders strategy by the Biden administration.

Fox News host Mike Emanuel highlighted recent numbers that border officials saw for the month of January, which included “about 3,000 border arrests per day in January 2021, encounters at the border up 114% from the same time a year ago, the highest amount since July 2019.”

Asked to respond to those numbers, Homan said, “I wrote an op-ed for Fox News seven months ago and I said if Joe Biden became president, we would lose the border and it’s happening.”

“The surge is already there,” Homan said. “Now, you mentioned those numbers, but the truth is, it’s almost 4,000 crossings a day because Border Patrol isn’t adding [the ones who got away]. So there’s a way they count footprints in the sand and vehicle stop. So it’s about 4,000 a day. Now, you times that by a month, that’s 120,000 month, which is 1.4 million a year. And that’s why Title 42 is still in place for single adults. Once [the Remain In Mexico policy] stops adhering to Title 42, the numbers will be astronomical. And we knew this will happen because all the promises Joe Biden has made and he continues to make. And you know, so this isn’t by accident. This is by design. This is an open border strategy. He has bowed to the left, we lose the border.”

[AVGWarhawk]

The 43 number is the number of Republicans who voted to acquit. 48 Democrats, 2 Independants, and 7 Republicans voted guilty. No Democrats voted to acquit.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=117&session=1&vote=00059

:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[ET2SN]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/917392/story_image/TMW2021-02-17color.png?1613312404

*tee hee*

[Sonicfire1981]

who's #4?

[u crank]

who's #4?

It's just a guess but I would say it is suppose to be Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC).

[Sonicfire1981]

It's just a guess but I would say it is suppose to be Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC).

My bad, I was not precise. #5 is Graham; I mean the one in the 4th, red pannel.

[Catfish]

Good article i think:
"How the Biden Administration Can Help Solve Our Reality Crisis
These steps, experts say, could prod more people to abandon the scourge of hoaxes and lies."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/02/technology/biden-reality-crisis-misinformation.html

But what about those who are not interested in facts and truth. Maybe humanity finds the last exit, but ... the first Quanon followers are getting traction here too :doh:

[u crank]

My bad, I was not precise. #5 is Graham; I mean the one in the 4th, red pannel.

Well another guess but I would say Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah).

[Skybird]

Good article i think:
"How the Biden Administration Can Help Solve Our Reality Crisis
These steps, experts say, could prod more people to abandon the scourge of hoaxes and lies."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/02/technology/biden-reality-crisis-misinformation.html

But what about those who are not interested in facts and truth. Maybe humanity finds the last exit, but ... the first Quanon followers are getting traction here too :doh:
The psychology of sectarian cults and doomsday cults - and that is what Qanon is - tick differently, you cannot catch them just by refering to reality of using reason and logic. Its about irrational belief, and in mere beliefs believing is of virtue and prooves the strength of your faith. The striocter you resist to reality, the mnroe this illustrates the purity of your faith.



Its like the sling around the rabbit's neck.

[MaDef]

Good article i think:
"How the Biden Administration Can Help Solve Our Reality Crisis
These steps, experts say, could prod more people to abandon the scourge of hoaxes and lies."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/02/technology/biden-reality-crisis-misinformation.html

But what about those who are not interested in facts and truth. Maybe humanity finds the last exit, but ... the first Quanon followers are getting traction here too :doh:

the U.S. has no need for an American version of Goebbels.

[Catfish]

^ of course you do not "need a Goebbels" anymore, you are already on that path.

edit just saw this is the article that Rockstar already posted a week or two ago

[MaDef]

That's what it boils down to, the writer is calling for a "reality czar".

[Buddahaid]

It would be nice if it would be real but who would decide and then nobody would believe it anyway.

We just got rid of the unreality czar so we know that doesn't work either. :shucks:

Maybe a sidereality czar? :Kaleun_Wink:

Anyway you look at it, I'm just happy to move beyond Trump finally so bring it on.

[MaDef]

Out of the frying pan & into the fire. Good luck with that.

[Buddahaid]

Out of the frying pan & into the fire. Good luck with that.

Oh I think it will be at least less dramatic and easier to follow. Not the loose cannon um what business from the last four years.

[AVGWarhawk]

Anyway you look at it, I'm just happy to move beyond Trump finally so bring it on.

You may be beyond Trump but the House lets Trump live in their heads rent free. Impeachment is done. But wait, how about a committee like the 9-11 committee to investigate the riot? Great idea Pelosi! More smoke and diversion to the nonsense Biden is writing off with a pen. Just more Trump living in their heads. No sir, DC has not moved on from Trump. Nor has the media. It is all about the blame game and ratings.

[3catcircus]

You may be beyond Trump but the House lets Trump live in their heads rent free. Impeachment is done. But wait, how about a committee like the 9-11 committee to investigate the riot? Great idea Pelosi! More smoke and diversion to the nonsense Biden is writing off with a pen. Just more Trump living in their heads. No sir, DC has not moved on from Trump. Nor has the media. It is all about the blame game and ratings.

The question - why is he living rent-free?

A psychological evaluation would show that those who are so wrapped up in Trump being "orange man bad" are themselves highly flawed - it's the whole "evangelical preacher railing against [x] is himself secretly [x]" situation - all these politicians and lobbyists *know* that themselves are what they claim Trump is - but then again that's right out of the Saul Alinsky playbook...

[AVGWarhawk]

The question - why is he living rent-free?



Trump is a source for frequent agitated thoughts of many on Capitol Hill. They live and breath dislike of Trump and go about their day recruiting others to dislike Trump as well. It is working it's way into a disorder. Honestly, nonstop for 4 years and it continues.

[u crank]

But wait, how about a committee like the 9-11 committee to investigate the riot? Great idea Pelosi!

This is sorta like the desire to call witnesses during the Senate trial. Once the Dems realized that they might not like having some of their people called they ran from that idea pretty quick. A prime witness in any investigation of that riot would be Pelosi, one of the people who would have to answer for the security failure at the Capital.

[AVGWarhawk]

This is sorta like the desire to call witnesses during the Senate trial. Once the Dems realized that they might not like having some of their people called they ran from that idea pretty quick. A prime witness in any investigation of that riot would be Pelosi, one of the people who would have to answer for the security failure at the Capital.

Yes sir, the Dems are covering their butts. They wanted no witnesses. I think the videos of the rhetoric of those such as Waters should be enough to see the pot calling the kettle black. The current group in DC(both sides) need to go. It is the most toxic bunch we have seen.

[Skybird]

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/15/politics/kinzinger-impeachment-family-letter/index.html


If I were him I would be glad to use the opportunity to break ties with this clan of furuncles and never see and care for them again, considering myself lucky to have escaped. Better no family than this kind of family.

[AVGWarhawk]

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/15/politics/kinzinger-impeachment-family-letter/index.html


If I were him I would be glad to use the opportunity to break ties with this clan of furuncles and never see and care for them again, considering myself lucky to have escaped. Better no family than this kind of family.

Some family members one does not have to like. Just love them. That is all.

[Commander Wallace]

Yes sir, the Dems are covering their butts. They wanted no witnesses. I think the videos of the rhetoric of those such as Waters should be enough to see the pot calling the kettle black. The current group in DC(both sides) need to go. It is the most toxic bunch we have seen.




:agree: I don't think there was ever a truer statement.

[Skybird]

All hail the Great Orange Party.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/16/politics/gop-republican-party-quinnipiac-poll/index.html

"Three quarters." Jaul.

I further read that former Republicans in Georgia want to change the state's constitution to prevent persecutors continuing to examine Biden's predecessor phone call to the governor demanding him to steal the vote by rigging the result.

[Onkel Neal]

Trump is not President. Can we see if we can go 5 days with Trump news? :k_confused:

[Rockstar]

Unfortunately that doesn't fit the narrative industry. For four seemingly very long years Trump has produced record ratings for everyone, thats money on the bank baby. We have the left media set up to beat up Trump and the right media set up to condemn the left for beating up Trump.

It can't just suddenly stop.

Conversation

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000173019318/8db7be984cfb21b5c6701dd9b6a1bb62_bigger.jpeg
Wolf Blitzer@wolfblitzer

The Trump trial is over but local, state & federal investigations continue. There might be a 9/11-type commission. News organizations continue to investigate. And @ realBobWoodward is working on a book on Trump’s final days in office. Bottom line: we are going to learn a lot more.

https://twitter.com/wolfblitzer/status/1361347391056736258

[Onkel Neal]

This guy is one smooth crook. Caused thousands of deaths and then tried to cover his tracks.

Andrew Cuomo Under Siege as Democrats Revolt Amid Reports of Federal Probe

Recently, Cuomo's administration was discovered underreporting the number of COVID-19 patients placed by hospitals back into nursing homes by 40 percent.

His administration also underreported the number of nursing home deaths by nearly 43 percent, effectively representing thousands of previously unreported instances.


After Assembly member Kim publicly criticized Cuomo's handling of the nursing home deaths in The New York Post, Kim claimed that Cuomo had called his home and threatened to destroy his career if he didn't issue a statement supporting his handling of COVID-19 in nursing homes.

Kim, whose uncle died in a nursing home in 2020 due to a presumed COVID-19 case, told the publication, "There's no undoing here. They have blood on their hands. We're talking about his record of performance in the last 10 months."



https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-cuomo-under-siege-democrats-revolt-amid-reports-federal-probe-1570097

[Mr Quatro]

This guy is one smooth crook. Caused thousands of deaths and then tried to cover his tracks.

Andrew Cuomo Under Siege as Democrats Revolt Amid Reports of Federal Probe



New York (especially NY City) is like a different country

They talk different, think different, act different and they are different

Proud and proud and proud of it :yep:

I know I lived there for four months one time in Long Island and oh by the way the toll booths don't take hundred dollar bills :D

[Onkel Neal]

New York (especially NY City) is like a different country

They talk different, think different, act different and they are different

Proud and proud and proud of it :yep:

I know I lived there for four months one time in Long Island and oh by the way the toll booths don't take hundred dollar bills :D

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=654&pictureid=6076

:Kaleun_Los: Had to try :)

[AVGWarhawk]

New York (especially NY City) is like a different country

They talk different, think different, act different and they are different

Proud and proud and proud of it :yep:

I know I lived there for four months one time in Long Island and oh by the way the toll booths don't take hundred dollar bills :D

Yep. I was born on Long Island. Different world and mind set then and still is today. Fa-getta-bout-it!

I do enjoy visiting the city just for a day now. I could not live there.

[AVGWarhawk]

Trump is not President. Can we see if we can go 5 days with Trump news? :k_confused:

Heck no! Trump is ratings! The talking heads have been making dollars hand over fist with Trump ratings. Plus, what a better person to blame for all the world ills. There will be decades of blaming Trump!!!! Hats and t-shirts will be sold at each event. Order now while supplies last!

[AVGWarhawk]

This guy is one smooth crook. Caused thousands of deaths and then tried to cover his tracks.

Andrew Cuomo Under Siege as Democrats Revolt Amid Reports of Federal Probe



https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-cuomo-under-siege-democrats-revolt-amid-reports-federal-probe-1570097

He will get a pass. Guarantee it.

[Gorpet]

Warhawk , The Demorats are going to start an eating frenzy in their own party just like the piranha fish that they are.At the end of 2022 we will see who survives

[Rockstar]

Warhawk , The Demorats are going to start an eating frenzy in their own party just like the piranha fish that they are.At the end of 2022 we will see who survives




The last president we had was accused by many for not having done more when in fact he didn't have any constitutional authority to rule over the states. Newsome and Cuomo on the other hand did have some authority to act. Unfortunately one killed off California's private small business while his corporate cronies were allowed to continue unabated. The other killed off New York's elderly. But they're both well spoken and dedicated party members so they'll probably get a pass.

I'm thinking even after all of that they may still be considered 2024 presidential candidates. Its possible the news of scandal we hear about now might be an attempt to get it out and over with. Normally once information is broadcast very seldom does media ever again consider reporting on it and by the time 2024 rolls around this scandal will certainly be old news. Lets face it according to Democrat party leaders anyone who questions party authority are as party chair Randy Hicks said "... right-wing conspiracy theorists, white nationalists, anti-vaxxers and groups who encourage violence on our democratic institutions.”


But Hick's is a democrat, well spoken and from California so he gets a pass too.



that's my conspiracy theory ;)

[Von Due]

...that's my conspiracy theory ;)

No, no, no. You're doing it wrong. Conspiracy theories are supposed to be crazy talk. What you posted is not crazy talk. What you posted is precisely how thngs work in politics. Unfortunately, satire is no match for politics.

[eddie]

He will get a pass. Guarantee it.


Just like Trump and his pathetic response to the Covid out break. What a guy,lol

[August]

https://i.imgur.com/pdnZsWJ.jpg

[Jeff-Groves]

Oh thank you for that!
:nope:
Time to break out the BrainBleach!
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/006/411/Bleach.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Just like Trump and his pathetic response to the Covid out break. What a guy,lol

I must have missed that pass Trump received for COVID or much of anything else for that matter.

[skidman]

OK, so the SCOTUS has paved the way for making the tax records of the nameless one available to the public. Any thoughts on what will be revealed? I expect the Deutsche Bank shaking their heads in disbelieve.

[AVGWarhawk]

OK, so the SCOTUS has paved the way for making the tax records of the nameless one available to the public. Any thoughts on what will be revealed? I expect the Deutsche Bank shaking their heads in disbelieve.

I don' t care. The IRS is to handle audits. For me, what has the IRS been auditing? The IRS surely audited my daughter who is a student, makes less than $15k a year. She had to pay an additional $80.00 in taxes. For me, the IRS should be on the stand answering questions. Trump is only going to take advantage of anything the IRS will permit.

[Jimbuna]

I don' t care. The IRS is to handle audits. For me, what has the IRS been auditing? The IRS surely audited my daughter who is a student, makes less than $15k a year. She had to pay an additional $80.00 in taxes. For me, the IRS should be on the stand answering questions. Trump is only going to take advantage of anything the IRS will permit.

Fully understand Chris....I had the same experience with the treatment my daughter received from HMRC when she was a student.

[AVGWarhawk]

Fully understand Chris....I had the same experience with the treatment my daughter received from HMRC when she was a student.

I don't understand the entire Trump tax nonsense. If there truly is an issue the IRS is to take care of it. If the IRS has not, why not?

Maybe the easy pickings like our daughters makes for an easier day for these auditors.

[Jimbuna]

I don't understand the entire Trump tax nonsense. If there truly is an issue the IRS is to take care of it. If the IRS has not, why not?

Maybe the easy pickings like our daughters makes for an easier day for these auditors.

Most probably :yep:

[3catcircus]

OK, so the SCOTUS has paved the way for making the tax records of the nameless one available to the public. Any thoughts on what will be revealed? I expect the Deutsche Bank shaking their heads in disbelieve.

What they'll find us that he took advantage of the tax laws' many loopholes that are available to corporate America but not too private citizens - things that are all legal but most people won't qualify for. Things like inventory property sales, graduated corporate income, low income housing investment income tax breaks, accelerated depreciation, etc. In many cases, the tax breaks can be interpreted differently by different lawyers, tax auditors, etc.

The closest most citizens get is capital gains tax, home mortgage interest, or child tax credits.

What his political opponents call crooked is really just trying to minimize tax burden through all legal means - and they all do it themselves.

Remember, Bill Clinton claimed his used underwear as a charity donation to reduce his tax burden...

[Bilge_Rat]

OK, so the SCOTUS has paved the way for making the tax records of the nameless one available to the public. Any thoughts on what will be revealed? I expect the Deutsche Bank shaking their heads in disbelieve.

Absolutely nothing illegal, most you will find out is that Trump takes every deduction he is legally allowed and/or that he makes more or less money than is supposed.

[MaDef]

And Monica Lewinski wrote her dress off as a business expense. ;)

[3catcircus]

And Monica Lewinski wrote her dress off as a business expense. ;)

Talk about accelerated depreciation...

[Moonlight]

OK, so the SCOTUS has paved the way for making the tax records of the nameless one available to the public. Any thoughts on what will be revealed? I expect the Deutsche Bank shaking their heads in disbelieve.

Most members of Congress keep their tax returns secret don't they?, so why should ex President Trump have his tax returns made available to the public?.

In fact I would say to make it more fairer, every senator and representative should be included as well, you should add the SCOTUS to that list as well so it doesn't become a witch hunt.
I'm sure they'd all be back pedalling faster than Usain Bolt on a motorbike if the public demanded the same from them as they're demanding from Trump. :haha:

Don't throw stones in a greenhouse. :O:

[Sonicfire1981]

Most members of Congress keep their tax returns secret don't they?, so why should ex President Trump have his tax returns made available to the public?.


Cause he said he would? A bit like, come up with a better medicare for all..?

[Rockstar]

Most members of Congress keep their tax returns secret don't they?, so why should ex President Trump have his tax returns made available to the public?.

In fact I would say to make it more fairer, every senator and representative should be included as well, you should add the SCOTUS to that list as well so it doesn't become a witch hunt.
I'm sure they'd all be back pedalling faster than Usain Bolt on a motorbike if the public demanded the same from them as they're demanding from Trump. :haha:

Don't throw stones in a greenhouse. :O:




Oh I don't know if it's safe to say congress is immune. Whoever holds power gets to abuse it and abuse it they do. Remember fanatics can justify any action. Take Adam Schiff for instance hellbent to paint Trump as a law breaker. Subpoenaed phone records of private citizens in a most disgraceful breach of ethical and legal propriety.

Today the FBI have seized cellphones of certain members of congress.FBI Seized Congressional Cellphone Records Related to Capitol Attack

The inclusion of congressional phone data in the FBI investigation raises thorny constitutional questions.
https://theintercept.com/2021/02/22/capitol-riot-fbi-cellphone-records/


I hope those who give them a pass realize they are giving permission for it to happen to them.

[August]

OK, so the SCOTUS has paved the way for making the tax records of the nameless one available to the public. Any thoughts on what will be revealed? I expect the Deutsche Bank shaking their heads in disbelieve.


You call him the nameless one but you just can't stop talking about Donald J. Trump.

[Sonicfire1981]

Today the FBI have seized cellphones of certain members of congress.https://theintercept.com/2021/02/22/capitol-riot-fbi-cellphone-records/
FBI Seized Congressional Cellphone Records Related to Capitol Attack



You quoted that wrong. Just saying, because you make it sound like the FBI is not doing what it's supposed to be doing.

[skidman]

You call him the nameless one but you just can't stop talking about Donald J. Trump.

Only to annoy you August. Have you ever come across the word "Gesslerhut"? Well, maybe you know Wilhelm Tell, that guy from Switzerland who had to shoot a quarrel through an apple on his son's head. He was told to do so by Mr. Gessler, an official of the German Reich (the first one). Not going into details here but your "Good morning, Sir" came through loud and clear.

[August]

Only to annoy you August. Have you ever come across the word "Gesslerhut"? Well, maybe you know Wilhelm Tell, that guy from Switzerland who had to shoot a quarrel through an apple on his son's head. He was told to do so by Mr. Gessler, an official of the German Reich (the first one). Not going into details here but your "Good morning, Sir" came through loud and clear.




Annoy me? Hardly. I'm just amused at the thought that Trump still lives in your head rent free.

[Skybird]

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/22/opinions/trump-covid-big-lie-reiner/index.html

Negligent slaughter in countless cases, and trillions in public money misappropriated.

Like the EU's vaccination desaster, which I also rate as negligent slaughter in countless cases and trillions in public money misappropriated.

Those who knew what they were doing when they did wrong, I even accuse of mass murder.

Unforgivable.

Most governments get an F grade from me. They do not have to repeat the class - they have to switch to a lower school and start new. Best would be if they just drop dead.

[Buddahaid]

You call him the nameless one but you just can't stop talking about Donald J. Trump.

Just like the entire GOP....:Kaleun_Wink:

[Rockstar]

You quoted that wrong. Just saying, because you make it sound like the FBI is not doing what it's supposed to be doing.




read the article, just saying because it's article, not me, that raises the questions about motive and abuse of power.

[August]

Just like the entire GOP....:Kaleun_Wink:


Sorry not like that at all. I've yet to hear a Republican call Trump "The Nameless One" or introduce legislation specifically intended to drive out their political opposition but you go on thinking that as the Democrats continue to tear the nation apart with cancel culture ways.

[Buddahaid]

Well I guess you just don't pay attention. The nameless one moniker is in respect to Neal's request not to mention him, not a democrat conspiracy, and you must be blind to think the GOP doesn't have him and his legacy in their heads.

[August]

you must be blind to think the GOP doesn't have him and his legacy in their heads.


My what a cute little strawman you've built for yourself there. I never said that they don't think of Trump. He is after all the leader of that party. As for what Neal may have said i'm sure he meant it in jest but regardless your side picked up the ball and ran with it. "Cept it's not going to be that easy. Trump is not going away and you can't cancel half the country without causing a civil war, but please do continue. I've come to believe that war is inevitable and we might as well get it over with.

[Buddahaid]

My what a cute little strawman you've built for yourself there. I never said that they don't think of Trump. He is after all the leader of that party. As for what Neal may have said i'm sure he meant it in jest but regardless your side picked up the ball and ran with it. "Cept it's not going to be that easy. Trump is not going away and you can't cancel half the country without causing a civil war, but please do continue. I've come to believe that war is inevitable and we might as well get it over with.

Forget it. You're reading way too much into it.

[Skybird]

“I don't know if he'll run in 2024 or not, but if he does, I'm pretty sure he will win the nomination,” Romney said in an interview with the New York Times DealBook DC Policy Project.
Pressed on the prediction, Romney said, “I think he’d win the nomination if he runs. I mean a lot can happen between now and 2024.”
“I look at the polls, and the polls show that among the names being floated as potential contenders in 2024, if you put President Trump in there among Republicans, he wins in a landslide,” he added.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/romney-says-trump-would-win-gop-nomination-landslide-2024-n1258709


There is no mercy for the stupids.

[mapuc]

I'm wondering if GOP isn't in a precarious situation.

Trump is very popular among the Rep. voters, if he decide to create his own party/movement-The GOP may lose millions of voters.

On the other hand, if GOP make him as their candidate for the 2024 election they may lose it.

This is based on that a little majority who voted Dem will most likely do the same if he runs for the Rep.

If Biden makes a very bad job, then maybe Trump could win.

That's how I see it.

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

My "request" to stop talking about Trump is just my personal take, it can certainly be ignored, I don't mean it in an "official forum admin" way.


As I said before, Trump had his shot, I will never vote for him again. So my fellow Republicans, start looking for a more serious candidate (https://www.cotton.senate.gov/).

[August]

My "request" to stop talking about Trump is just my personal take, it can certainly be ignored, I don't mean it in an "official forum admin" way.


Either way you probably didn't mean that you preferred that people continue to talk about Trump but only refer to him as the "nameless one" or similar moniker.

[3catcircus]

My "request" to stop talking about Trump is just my personal take, it can certainly be ignored, I don't mean it in an "official forum admin" way.


As I said before, Trump had his shot, I will never vote for him again. So my fellow Republicans, start looking for a more serious candidate (https://www.cotton.senate.gov/).

So - what is it that you didn't like about him to not vote for him a second time?

I would argue that expecting a statesman is a bridge too far and that I'm happy to elect *any* candidate, no matter how flawed, who can destroy the entrenched government-industrial status quo that has seen stagnant wages for average people, continued government overreach, and continued spending of tax dollars like a drunken sailor.

It took Biden 10 days to even address Texas's current situation - it's now in the 70s there. What took him so long? What happened to his 100 days in office that are now turning out to be business as usual - continuing to put kids in cages but using polite language? Or the response of the North Koreans and China - who knew exactly how to emasculate the current administration?

I don't care if the guy was a tax cheat in his personal dealings. I don't care that he used coarse language or that he was prone to hyperbolic exaggeration - his ability to keep his opponents off-guard and to get foreign governments to at least come to a negotiating table are exactly what we needed and still need.

[Buddahaid]

I'm sure texas didn't need to expend resources showing Biden around at the time and he declared an emergency on Feb. 14.

[3catcircus]

I'm sure texas didn't need to expend resources showing Biden around at the time and he declared an emergency on Feb. 14.

Declaring an emergency and actually doing something *effective* are quite different.

FEMA sent a grand total of 60 generators, some blankets and some food and water. Their response was anemic.

[AVGWarhawk]

Biden will declare an emergency at the request of the Governor. When did the request go out?

[AVGWarhawk]

Declaring an emergency and actually doing something *effective* are quite different.

FEMA sent a grand total of 60 generators, some blankets and some food and water. Their response was anemic.

As a person who has been baptized by Katrina and dealing with FEMA, relief supplies don't show up at a blink of an eye. Not to mention FEMA distribution in Fort Worth was in the thick of the ice and outages. Let me know when you want to discuss logistics and relief efforts. I have years of sleepless nights getting relief supplies from Maine to Pago Pago at the request of FEMA. A task that is nothing less than daunting.

[3catcircus]

Biden will declare an emergency at the request of the Governor. When did the request go out?

How about this one...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/02/14/president-joseph-r-biden-jr-approves-texas-emergency-declaration/

Wasn't this at the request of the governor?

[3catcircus]

As a person who has been baptized by Katrina and dealing with FEMA, relief supplies don't show up at a blink of an eye. Not to mention FEMA distribution in Fort Worth was in the thick of the ice and outages. Let me know when you want to discuss logistics and relief efforts. I have years of sleepless nights getting relief supplies from Maine to Pago Pago at the request of FEMA. A task that is nothing less than daunting.

I'm well aware they don't come immediately. We're talking 10 days.

1 day to get activated to do stuff. 1 day to start loading up shipments - because FEMA is *supposed* to have stuff prestaged . 1-2 days to transport. 1 day to distribute.

We're not talking Maine to Pago Pago. We're talking cross-country. We're talking dumping truckloads of sand or salt on icy roads me event that getting stuff where it needs to go is a concern.

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm well aware they don't come immediately. We're talking 10 days.

1 day to get activated to do stuff. 1 day to start loading up shipments - because FEMA is *supposed* to have stuff prestaged . 1-2 days to transport. 1 day to distribute.

We're not talking Maine to Pago Pago. We're talking cross-country. We're talking dumping truckloads of sand or salt on icy roads me event that getting stuff where it needs to go is a concern.

What part of FEMAs distribution center in Fort Worth TX that was under ice and no power did not register. FEMA prestages outside of the area that will be affected. Say a hurricane will hit Miami. You don't park your supplies in Miami waiting for the hurricane that can take out the supplies. So, the supplies in Fort Worth are stuck like the entire region was. Trucks were not moving. Heck, one of my trucks was stuck in TX for five days. As far.as Pago Pago, that was easier getting supplies there via Russian AN124 Antonov. BTW, the Russian crew are a nice bunch of guys. The Antonov is a piece of flying history. I have other FEMA war stories if you are interested.

As a side note, TX has zero salt or sand stockpiling for snow and ice because it has never seen weather like this ever. It ain't CT. It ain't as simple as dump trucks dropping salt or sand. Not to mention, FEMA does no have it's own fleet of trucks and aircraft. Each task(transportation)is put out for bidding. Assembling 100's of tractors takes time. Specifically when having to deal with icy roads as in TX.

[u crank]

Biden’s Foreign Policy Is Obama All Over Again: Empowering Our Enemies At Our Expense

President Biden says his foreign policy goal is to promote American values. Yet serious questions deserve to be raised as to whether these were only empty words following the Biden administration’s recent controversial moves on China and Iran that seem all too eager to appease America’s adversaries.


https://thefederalist.com/2021/02/24/bidens-foreign-policy-is-obama-all-over-again-empowering-our-enemies-at-our-expense/

The Biden administration’s appeasement of Tehran will not only harden Iran’s resolve to demand maximum concessions from the United States without giving up its nuclear ambitions but also will send a clear message of weakness to all of America’s adversaries around the world that all talk from the Biden administration about promoting and defending American values are nothing but a fig leaf.

Biden’s foreign policy is clearly a potentially worse retread of Obama’s foreign policy, rarely backing up lofty rhetoric with needed tough actions. The foreign policy of the Biden administration looks poised to treat America’s foes with kid gloves, both ignorant of the true uncharitable nature of our adversaries and too arrogant to learn otherwise. It’s an ideology that mistakes wishful thinking as sound policies that will somehow induce desired changes.

[Onkel Neal]

So - what is it that you didn't like about him to not vote for him a second time?

I would argue that expecting a statesman is a bridge too far and that I'm happy to elect *any* candidate, no matter how flawed, who can destroy the entrenched government-industrial status quo that has seen stagnant wages for average people, continued government overreach, and continued spending of tax dollars like a drunken sailor.


I don't care if the guy was a tax cheat in his personal dealings. I don't care that he used coarse language or that he was prone to hyperbolic exaggeration - his ability to keep his opponents off-guard and to get foreign governments to at least come to a negotiating table are exactly what we needed and still need.

I disagree 100%, we do not need and should not reply on a conman who glorifies cheating, adultery, and incivility. We can do better, we have many other choices, better qualified, more sensible, and much more intelligent. I know there is a tendency in this country to let the extremes program people, I don't want any part of it. Trump is out, he better stay that way. I will vote Democrat before I vote for Trump again.

[MaDef]

As a side note, TX has zero salt or sand stockpiling for snow and ice because it has never seen weather like this ever. It ain't CT. It ain't as simple as dump trucks dropping salt or sand. Not to mention, FEMA does no have it's own fleet of trucks and aircraft. Each task(transportation)is put out for bidding. Assembling 100's of tractors takes time. Specifically when having to deal with icy roads as in TX.

Sure it has, It's just that weather is not a regular occurrence for that area. As for FEMA, it's a Federal Agency, anyone that expects them to operate in a timely and proficient manner is Whistling Dixie.

[Bilge_Rat]

I disagree 100%, we do not need and should not reply on a conman who glorifies cheating, adultery, and incivility. We can do better, we have many other choices, better qualified, more sensible, and much more intelligent. I know there is a tendency in this country to let the extremes program people, I don't want any part of it. Trump is out, he better stay that way. I will vote Democrat before I vote for Trump again.


Agreed, Trump had his chance and he blew it. Last thing we need is him ruining the GOP's chances in 2024. If he really cares about the party, he will step aside and let a new generation of leaders come forward.


p.s. - Tom Cotton is my first choice too. :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Sure it has, It's just that weather is not a regular occurrence for that area. As for FEMA, it's a Federal Agency, anyone that expects them to operate in a timely and proficient manner is Whistling Dixie.

Very is true. FEMA does not move until there is an emergency declared by the president. The president will only do this when the governor of any state request the president declare an emergency. When did the governor TX ask for a declaration? If it was the first day the ice hit and Biden sat on his thumbs for days making the declaration then there is a problem on PA Ave.

[AVGWarhawk]

Agreed, Trump had his chance and he blew it. Last thing we need is him ruining the GOP's chances in 2024. If he really cares about the party, he will step aside and let a new generation of leaders come forward.


p.s. - Tom Cotton is my first choice too. :up:

GOP has no chance. Biden is gaining votes with ever check he is writing. And, we need to be careful with letting the new generation of leaders come forward. Some are not leaders. AOC for example. She is a oddball version of Keeping up with the Kardashins. There is more worry about her twitter account following then I care to count. Dan Crenshaw. Nice enough guy but he really is not vocal at all. He plays a good game on FB. Beyond that, nothing. I'm having trouble seeing anything on the horizon that appears to be new leaders.

[3catcircus]

I disagree 100%, we do not need and should not reply on a conman who glorifies cheating, adultery, and incivility.

Soooo.... Someone other than Biden.

[3catcircus]

GOP has no chance. Biden is gaining votes with ever check he is writing. And, we need to be careful with letting the new generation of leaders come forward. Some are not leaders. AOC for example. She is a oddball version of Keeping up with the Kardashins. There is more worry about her twitter account following then I care to count. Dan Crenshaw. Nice enough guy but he really is not vocal at all. He plays a good game on FB. Beyond that, nothing. I'm having trouble seeing anything on the horizon that appears to be new leaders.

Biden is out before the end of the year - they'll 25th him when the time is right for their agenda.

[AVGWarhawk]

Australia understands:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6233603126001

[Moonlight]

Biden is out before the end of the year - they'll 25th him when the time is right for their agenda.

No, I disagree, he'll have a sudden medical condition instead, the Democrats wont allow anything like dementia to taint his presidency. :up:

[mapuc]

What if I told you that Biden will win 2024.

Markus

[Moonlight]

^If he's still alive he wont know his own name by then. :up:

[mapuc]

^If he's still alive he wont know his own name by then. :up:

Is there a different between a politician who's alive and one who's dead ?

Markus

[bstanko6]

Been awhile boys but I have to say it... we just bombed Syria! Not that I’m boasting I called it, but I did!

Biden is trash!

[Moonlight]

If you're going to post news about an airstrike in Syria you could at least post a link to it.

US carries out airstrike against Iranian-backed militia in Syria
https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-carries-airstrike-iranian-backed-militia-syria/story?id=76122461&cid=clicksource_4380645_3_heads_hero_live_hero_hed

After reading it and looking at the damage it caused I'm wondering why the hell did they bother, reading some of the oldest comments in that link gives me the impression that most of the readership are as brain dead as Biden is. :haha:

[Reece]

Is there a different between a politician who's alive and one who's dead ?

Markus
:har: Not much Markus, they both stink!!:up:

[Catfish]

Is there a different between a politician who's alive and one who's dead ? Markus
:har: :up:

Maybe the money sidelined up to his death :O:

[Skybird]

Is this madness really true? "Racist mathematics"...?

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.achgut.com/artikel/eins_und_eins_gleich_zwei_wie_rassistisch

For the sake of completeness, I am principally against ANY multiple choice formats in tests and exams during school and university education. Shortcuts like this do not benefit better education success, but stupidifies the intellectual process in students. You do nto get better learnign results,l but worse. And you get a less creative thinking.

But that is what many politicians and ideologists want.

[3catcircus]

Is this madness really true? "Racist mathematics"...?

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.achgut.com/artikel/eins_und_eins_gleich_zwei_wie_rassistisch

For the sake of completeness, I am principally against ANY multiple choice formats in tests and exams during school and university education. Shortcuts like this do not benefit better education success, but stupidifies the intellectual process in students. You do nto get better learnign results,l but worse. And you get a less creative thinking.

But that is what many politicians and ideologists want.

Now maybe you'll finally understand what conservatives in the US have been warning everyone about for years now.

Leftists are mentally ill who will *never* be satisfied no matter how much they are appeased. They've infected universities and K-12 education throughout the US. The problem is their insane beliefs don't just stay in their ivory towers - they end up in board rooms and governments.

[Moonlight]

Idiocracy, coming near you soon. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPmHqzDtvHs

[Rockstar]

Things used to be much easier when I was growing up. What ever happened to ABBACAB?

[Skybird]

What ever happened to ABBACAB?
Honestly said I think its more the A-G-C-T thing that looks it got a little messed up... Or your keyboard.
:O:

[AVGWarhawk]

Been awhile boys but I have to say it... we just bombed Syria! Not that I’m boasting I called it, but I did!

Biden is trash!

And Biden bashed Trump for doing the same. The news media barely covered it. Trump coverage was a different story. It's astonishing that a large group of people either ignore or do not see what the media does as far as favoritism and reporting.

[3catcircus]

And Biden bashed Trump for doing the same. The news media barely covered it. Trump coverage was a different story. It's astonishing that a large group of people either ignore or do not see what the media does as far as favoritism and reporting.

Nonoseebutbutsee - this is a kinder more empathetic bombing of brown people...

[MaDef]

And Biden bashed Trump for doing the same. The news media barely covered it. Trump coverage was a different story. It's astonishing that a large group of people either ignore or do not see what the media does as far as favoritism and reporting.

I think that favoritism is about to end, the White House is planning to charge reporters 170.00$ every time they enter the White House for a press briefing. It supposedly to cover the cost of the daily covid-19 tests they have to take.

[3catcircus]

I think that favoritism is about to end, the White House is planning to charge reporters 170.00$ every time they enter the White House for a press briefing. It supposedly to cover the cost of the daily covid-19 tests they have to take.

I don't believe this to be the case at all. The CNNs and NYTimes and WaPos will easily just pay this cost (or quietly it'll be waived) while smaller outlets will be burdened. Those smaller outlets just so happen to be conservative would be my guess.

[em2nought]

2016 Deplorable
2020 Disenfranchised
2024 ?



:hmmm: Disarmed, detained, deprogrammed, disemboweled?

[Moonlight]

You yankees need to start looking round for some younger and better presidential candidates, I'll throw my hat in with this one anytime, and she's hot for a yankee.
This young lady would tear Senile Jo and his VP Kamala Harris a new one in a debate on practically everything.

Kristi Noem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lep70dcxrYA&feature=emb_rel_pause

[3catcircus]

You yankees need to start looking round for some younger and better presidential candidates, I'll throw my hat in with this one anytime, and she's hot for a yankee.
This young lady would tear Senile Jo and his VP Kamala Harris a new one in a debate on practically everything.

Kristi Noem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lep70dcxrYA&feature=emb_rel_pause

To be fair, a 5-yr old would destroy Biden.

It's ridiculous that we've come to the point in our society that those that voted for Biden (actually cast a legal ballot) are so easily led and so easily fooled that they'd vote for a guy so obviously suffering from mental decline. I also find it telling how many searches have been made in how you could take back your vote - the buyer's remorse amongst the Dems is palpable.

[Skybird]

Finally a conversation that does not endlessly talk about Corona.

[AVGWarhawk]

2016 Deplorable
2020 Disenfranchised
2024 ?





2024? Finished. The free handouts is assuring a Democratic victory in 2024.

[Rockstar]

More B.S. just spoken in a more assertive tone. :D
I thought it was fun article to read.

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/02/28/bull****-spoken-in-an-assertive-tone-notes-from-the-edge-of-the-narrative-matrix/


edit: just noticed the link is broken because of the word used to describe 'poop' but which starts with an S and ends in HIT in the link was asterisked out. easy fix though if you want to read the article yourself



It’s like the Biden administration is actively trying to vindicate everyone who spent the last four years saying that as far as policy decisions are concerned there’s nothing unusual about the Trump administration.
❖
The only way to see the Biden administration as significantly different from the Trump administration is to jack your mind into an alternate reality made of partisan narrative constructs.
❖
The short-term plan to fix America: Get rid of Trump.
The long-term plan to fix America: Mumble mumble diverse cabinet mumble mumble mumble I bet Trump is hatching some pretty bad schemes for 2024 mumble mumble.


The facts are in and the debate is settled. Those who claimed the Democratic Party can be used to move the United States toward sanity were wrong. The first step to escaping a burning building is to stop pushing on the fake emergency exit door that’s been painted on the wall.

[u crank]

One has to start to wonder why this is happening. If CNN reporters are starting to question the lack of availability to the press by the President of the USA then you know it is not normal.

Jake Tapper
@jaketapper
.
@Kevinliptakcnn
notes that an analysis of the past 100 years shows President Biden’s 15 most recent predecessors all held a formal solo press conference within 33 days of taking office. Biden has not and it’s day 42.

10:48 AM · Mar 3, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

[Moonlight]

I'm not surprised, he's a bleeding senile old duffer and they don't want him screwing things up again, for America's sake the bloody pillock needs locking away in a padded cell before he does something they're all going to regret. :O:

We brits might not be the smartest people in the world but even we know a plank of wood when we see one, your VP is just waiting in the wings till you nutters finally realise he's a plank, and then, whatever hidden agenda she's got up her sleeve is probably not going to go down well with white America. :o

[3catcircus]

I'm not surprised, he's a bleeding senile old duffer and they don't want him screwing things up again, for America's sake the bloody pillock needs locking away in a padded cell before he does something they're all going to regret. :O:

We brits might not be the smartest people in the world but even we know a plank of wood when we see one, your VP is just waiting in the wings till you nutters finally realise he's a plank, and then, whatever hidden agenda she's got up her sleeve is probably not going to go down well with white America. :o

Funny all those people who claimed Trump was the worst ever and Biden would be the next saviour are now dumbfounded that Dementia Joe's mental incapacity is being revealed. His wranglers are having difficulty covering up his decline while the puppetmasters' own incompetence is going to lead us into a war with Iran and the rest of the middle east. It would not at all surprise me if Saudi, UAE, and Jordan find themselves allied with Israel against Iran and Syria with Iraq caught in the middle.

Those of us who weren't swallowing the MSM pablum could clearly see his mental incompetence being covered up by his power-mad wife/handler in collusion with Dem power brokers. All of those "calling a lid before noon" situations during the summer were clear evidence of a typical alzheimer's patients decline in lucidity as the day proceeds.

The fact that his VP called him a racist while primary campaigning just solidifies her reputation as a two-faced ladder-climber who will do or say anything in a quest for power. There will be people of all backgrounds who will not be happy if they 25th him to put her in as president - some of them racists, most of them not.

[Gorpet]

I'm not surprised, he's a bleeding senile old duffer and they don't want him screwing things up again, for America's sake the bloody pillock needs locking away in a padded cell before he does something they're all going to regret. :O:

We brits might not be the smartest people in the world but even we know a plank of wood when we see one, your VP is just waiting in the wings till you nutters finally realise he's a plank, and then, whatever hidden agenda she's got up her sleeve is probably not going to go down well with white America. :o

It's a take over of our country by the Demorat Socialist Party. And our Politicians will set the pace for your politicians to make moves against the Conservative Parties in your own countries. The conspirators will move quickly look at Germany it's starting. Agenda 2030 is now in full swing and it is a global conspiracy. Within the next few months Joe will be retired and Kamala will become our next president. And our country will again have another President that can't be criticized or even challenged about their policy decisions. Look the politicians that we have allowed to stay in power for to many years have consolidated and are now becoming one.

They and their families are not going to give up the power they have worked for decades to achieve . In my country or your's so get ready.. because those we gave power to and trusted for our future while we went to work and did our best to provide for our families. Well now Hell will be upon us for we have forgotten power unchecked leads to the Destruction of those who freely gave it away. We get what we deserve. Yi Pi Ki YA:har:

[Rockstar]

Joe Biden to rich donors: "Nothing would fundamentally change" if he's elected

Along with praise for the "civility" of racists, Biden assures donors "no one's standard of living will change"
https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/joe-biden-to-rich-donors-nothing-would-fundamentally-change-if-hes-elected/

Former Vice President Joe Biden assured rich donors at a ritzy New York fundraiser that “nothing would fundamentally change” if he is elected.

Biden told donors at an event at the Carlyle Hotel in Manhattan on Tuesday evening that he would not “demonize” the rich and promised that “no one’s standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change,”

[mapuc]

I don't understand it.

According to my Danish and Swedish friends your President Biden is your savior.

He came to rescue you from this terrible of an former President.

And then I read among my friends here that he is anything than a savior.

Markus

[Von Due]

2 words that never belong in the same sentence: "Saviour" and "politician".

[Moonlight]

Joe Biden to rich donors: "Nothing would fundamentally change" if he's elected

Along with praise for the "civility" of racists, Biden assures donors "no one's standard of living will change"

Nothing would fundamentally change?, so why did any poor people who were expecting a better living vote for this pillock. I saw no reason for you lot to vote for him then and the quotes confirms practically nothing will change for any other group either, rich, middle class or poor, you've all been sucker punched you daft currants. :haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

so why did any poor people who were expecting a better living vote for this pillock.

You are assuming living breathing people casted votes for Biden.

[AVGWarhawk]

I don't understand it.

According to my Danish and Swedish friends your President Biden is your savior.

He came to rescue you from this terrible of an former President.

And then I read among my friends here that he is anything than a savior.

Markus

Yes, many believe he will save democracy. He is simply a bumbling figurehead who is not permitted to speak to the press. He is the first president to not hold a press conference in the 1st 45 days of his term. Wonder why?

[Skybird]

I am thankful for every politician who does not haunt the public with his divine media presence or twitter account every day, they all are way too narcissistic and full of themselves.

Germany's Konrad Adenauer did not travel and pose much, nor did he held many speeches here and there. Asked why this is so, he or one of the people from his circle explained: no time for this, work needs to be done, and travelling is exhausting - you want an exhausted mind making decisions effecting your life?

Press conferences are to over 90% a waste of time and a narcissistic navel-gazing. Phrasemongering. Endless repetitions.

[Moonlight]

You are assuming living breathing people casted votes for Biden. I didn't want to broach that subject but now that you mention it, I did expect it to be a fair election but just maybe Trump was right and it was stolen by the Dems and not won by fair means after all. :o

I'm becoming a conspiracy theorist nutter. :haha:

[Sonicfire1981]

Germany's Konrad Adenauer did not travel and pose much, nor did he held many speeches here and there.

Hach, Konrad. wish we could have him back.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden's such a letdown...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghvukev5ZCg

[Skybird]

Hach, Konrad. wish we could have him back.

Really? He put economics into the plough of state politics and clashed with the probably best economic minister Germany ever had, Ludwig Erhard. The two split in strife.

I would prefer Erhard over Adenauer any time.

But taken for himself, Adenauer's reasoning and political instincts certainly were superior to all the contemporary political personnel can show up with.

And having experienced WWII makes a decisive difference anyway. To be seen again with Helmut Schmidt.

[Sonicfire1981]

I would prefer Erhard over Adenauer any time.

I'd prefer Schmidt over Erhard, as I believe it's not the time for free-er markets. I didn't like Schmidt personally ("I said this already in an interview with the Hamburg Gazette in 1984 and I won't repeat it here [in 2010]...") but my core point was:

But taken for himself, Adenauer's reasoning and political instincts certainly were superior to all the contemporary political personnel can show up with.


we're pretty low on options at the moment. When the best shot is a bavarian, things are dire...^^

[Rockstar]

Take note of the title. Then watch the video. From what little there was of him speaking (15 seconds) it's no wonder we haven't heard more of him lately.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqk3HbwNo1g

[mapuc]

I find it very interesting to see how some may puke(not litterally) when they hear a politician speak or read what this have written.

While other is euphoric when they hear their politician speak or read what this have written.

Markus

[3catcircus]

I find it very interesting to see how some may puke(not litterally) when they hear a politician speak or read what this have written.

While other is euphoric when they hear their politician speak or read what this have written.

Markus

Americans have become brainwashed into thinking that the most well-spoken, publicly-polite, shiny white teeth, looks-great-on-tv politician automatically makes them competent and less corrupt.

I'll take Trump any day - I don't care that he's offensive, vindictive, and crass. He got things done for the betterment of Americans instead of using the office to line his own pockets and set up political favors for cronies.

[Sonicfire1981]

He got things done for the betterment of Americans instead of using the office to line his own pockets and set up political favors for cronies.

I really shouldn't but the itch is too strong:

Like what?

[3catcircus]

I really shouldn't but the itch is too strong:

Like what?

I could have multiple things. Here are just a few:

1. He got the US out of the Paris Climate Accords. It was nothing but massive transferring of wealth out of the US while the most polluting nations got a pass. It would have doubled (or more) or energy prices with no environmental benefit and would have cost us hundreds of thousands of jobs - and we didn't need to be in it when we had already reduced our emissions despite it. It was nothing but an elaborate ponzi scheme labeled with all kinds of feel-good do-nothing. "Shovel-ready green energy!" Yeah - like Solyndra? Where taxpayers ate the $528 million loss before the company went bankrupt.

2. Protecting students from false accusations of sexual assault on college campuses by restoring due process requirements in title ix. False accusations were and are rampant and where the bare minimum of due process that would have been required in court wasn't adhered to. How easy should it be for someone to ruin another person's life via false accusations of sexual assault because one party has buyer's remorse the day after?

3. Diplomacy resulting in three middle eastern nations normalizing relations with Israel.

4. Not starting any new wars.

Should I go on?

[August]

Four middle east peace deals and from what I read a fifth was in the works with Indonesia before the incoming Biden admin scotched it.

[3catcircus]

Four middle east peace deals and from what I read a fifth was in the works with Indonesia before the incoming Biden admin scotched it.

I said three. My mistake.

[Moonlight]

A quick search brings these fact checked accomplishments up, some are true, some are not and some are shared with Obama and congress. :yep:

A Fact-Checked List of Trump Accomplishments
It’s been circulating on social media for months. Here’s what I found when I looked into these claims.

By Farah Stockman
Ms. Stockman is a member of the editorial board.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/11/opinion/fact-check-trump.html

[Rockstar]

Only one point Id like to bring up about the list. The new U.S. Space Force isn't something Trump just dreamt up and pushed through by decree. That Bill just like every other bill he signed into law is first approved by the House and the Senate. The President is the last one to sign on. Even if he vetoes the Bill Congress still has the legal means to push it through with or without his approval.



As for the General's public disapproval. Screw'em they are not elected officials. Both houses of congress approved it before Trump did. In fact correct me if I'm wrong but a President can't even introduce a Bill to congress only Congress can, its their idea.

[Sonicfire1981]

I could have multiple things. Here are just a few:

1. He got the US out of the Paris Climate Accords. [...]

That's not a good thing. Your explanations are baseless or simply wrong, at least according to science. But who is this science dude anyways? At least you managed to slip in a "whatabouttheotherthing". good for you.


2. Protecting students from false accusations of sexual assault on college campuses [...]

Now that's a big achievement. It has written "global significance" all over it. I never even heard of it and for you it's #2...


3. Diplomacy resulting in three middle eastern nations normalizing relations with Israel.

Those relations haven't changed much in the last... dunno.. decade? longer? He made them write this down, but only by throwing palestine under the bus. So now it's basically formalised that this problems will reoccur.


4. Not starting any new wars.

Except the one at home. Also, big achievement for any african warlord.


Should I go on?
I'd rather ask you to start.

As for the General's public disapproval. Screw'em they are not elected officials.
They are your sovereign. Their approval is the cornerstone of your great, free nation.

[Rockstar]

They are your sovereign. Their approval is the cornerstone of your great, free nation.

There are only THREE branches of government. Count them with me 1. The Judicial Branch, 2. The Executive Branch and 3. The Legislative Branch of government. There is no Military branch of government, the military it is not elected to office it does not approve or disapprove it does not in any way shape or form set policy or participate in the governance of this nation. It is a tool for security, diplomacy and foreign policy. Generals can be consulted and they can offer opinions but in the end even they have to shut the hell up and do what they're told. While those other General's who thought Space Force was a good idea will find cushy jobs in this new branch of military service and get promoted.

As I have said before congress is where the real power is at. In this country the House and the Senate introduced and approves the Law that establishes the Space Force not the military, not Generals, not Presidents.

[3catcircus]

That's not a good thing. Your explanations are baseless or simply wrong, at least according to science. But who is this science dude anyways? At least you managed to slip in a "whatabouttheotherthing". good for you.


Now that's a big achievement. It has written "global significance" all over it. I never even heard of it and for you it's #2...


Those relations haven't changed much in the last... dunno.. decade? longer? He made them write this down, but only by throwing palestine under the bus. So now it's basically formalised that this problems will reoccur.


Except the one at home. Also, big achievement for any african warlord.


I'd rather ask you to start.

They are your sovereign. Their approval is the cornerstone of your great, free nation.

I said good for Americans. Not every other country. By that account everything I've listed is a Trump success.

I don't care about other countries' problems. I care about mine. This shouldn't be a shock - every other country cares about their own problems first - yet they act shocked that a President of the US had that same attitude rather than bending over and taking it in the shorts so that the US taxpayer suffers for some other country.

[August]

I said three. My mistake.


Understandable. They continued to come in right up to the end of his term and the drive by media were loath to cover them. I'm bumming about the Indonesian one though.

[Sonicfire1981]

I said good for Americans. Not every other country. By that account everything I've listed is a Trump success.

I don't care about other countries' problems. I care about mine. This shouldn't be a shock - every other country cares about their own problems first - yet they act shocked that a President of the US had that same attitude rather than bending over and taking it in the shorts so that the US taxpayer suffers for some other country.

I understand. Texas was bad luck and ome frozen windmills (damn you, green new deal), nothing out of the ordinary. The US is on a different planet anyways (given many of their residents) - and even if not, spaceforce will easily conquer a new one.

[August]

I understand. Texas was bad luck and ome frozen windmills (damn you, green new deal), nothing out of the ordinary. The US is on a different planet anyways (given many of their residents) - and even if not, spaceforce will easily conquer a new one.




Well it's about time you old world aliens finally get it.

[Skybird]

There are only THREE branches of government. Count them with me 1. The Judicial Branch, 2. The Executive Branch and 3. The Legislative Branch of government. There is no Military branch of government, the military it is not elected to office it does not approve or disapprove it does not in any way shape or form set policy or participate in the governance of this nation. It is a tool for security, diplomacy and foreign policy. Generals can be consulted and they can offer opinions but in the end even they have to shut the hell up and do what they're told. While those other General's who thought Space Force was a good idea will find cushy jobs in this new branch of military service and get promoted.

As I have said before congress is where the real power is at. In this country the House and the Senate introduced and approves the Law that establishes the Space Force not the military, not Generals, not Presidents.
The formality of a perfect world defined on endlessly patient paper.

The truth could not be further form it.


On blindly trusting the state and its design, the old world has some lessons to teach. Unfortunately, both in the old and new world, nobody listens to them.

In the end, its about tribalism and worshipping totems.

[Rockstar]

The US is on a different planet anyways (given many of their residents) - and even if not, spaceforce will easily conquer a new one.


By your comments its obvious you don't have have a clue the E.U. is just as interested in space for the same reasons as China, Russia and the U.S. did you? The typical European, loves to complain and point fingers at everyone else. When in fact what we're doing is no different than what's happening in your own country. putz.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/IDAN/2020/653620/EXPO_IDA(2020)653620_EN.pdf

Space is crucial for EU security and defence. Yet the EU is at a cross-roads and it needs to develop ways to ensure that it maintains its strategic autonomy in space.

[Sonicfire1981]

When in fact what we're doing is no different than what's happening in your own country. putz.

That's what will make it so easy for you people to leave us suckers behind, duh.

[Rockstar]

NASA and ESA work together and both are contributing to Artemis and lunar exploration. After reading your petty comments and jabs the only one who's going to be left behind, is you. good luck

[3catcircus]

What an utter train wreck. Joe Burden not only couldn't remember the name of his SecDef, he couldn't even remember the name of the building he worked in. I mean - it's named after its own shape...

How many other "duly elected by bajillions of adoring voters" presidents had their VP standing behind them during every presser, ready to jump in and yank him off stage with a hook like in a vaudeville show?

[mapuc]

If there were by any chance some hidden half sized door from where you had to crawl through a half dark tunnel and where you end inside Biden's head.

What would you find ?

Same goes for the former President

Markus

[Jimbuna]

The most recent eviction from the White House

Joe and Jill Biden's German shepherds have been removed from the White House after the younger dog, Major, reportedly bit a security agent.

According to US media, the pets have been sent back to the Biden family home in Wilmington, Delaware.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56331268

[u crank]

What an utter train wreck. Joe Burden not only couldn't remember the name of his SecDef, he couldn't even remember the name of the building he worked in. I mean - it's named after its own shape...

How many other "duly elected by bajillions of adoring voters" presidents had their VP standing behind them during every presser, ready to jump in and yank him off stage with a hook like in a vaudeville show?

One has to wonder how long this can go on before CNN, MSNBC and the NYT finally are forced to report on the obvious.

One also has to wonder how America's enemies will exploit Biden's condition. Not good.

[AVGWarhawk]

One has to wonder how long this can go on before CNN, MSNBC and the NYT finally are forced to report on the obvious.

One also has to wonder how America's enemies will exploit Biden's condition. Not good.

CNN, MSNBC, NYT and WAPO will never throw egg on their own face.

[Jeff-Groves]

CNN, MSNBC, NYT and WAPO will never throw egg on their own face.

No they won't.
They'd rather risk getting caught with poop on their lips from kissing ARSE!

[Gorpet]

The most recent eviction from the White House

Jim, The dog's were election props. Joe and family take in rescue dogs from the local pound.Oh my god they love animals. It got got him as many votes as he got. Now these dogs will be the first animals kicked out of the People's House and we need an investigation. Why a security agent supposedly got bitten ,no security agent has ever been bitten in the White House by any dog That the American Peoples know of. And where the hell is PETA ? And where are these dogs now? I dont give a rats ass about Floyd The world needs to know what happened to these lovely animals that got booted out off the People's House.

WTF Now their really asking for trouble.:D

[Buddahaid]

One has to wonder how long this can go on before CNN, MSNBC and the NYT finally are forced to report on the obvious.

One also has to wonder how America's enemies will exploit Biden's condition. Not good.

Audit this then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4-fxOZIVhU

[u crank]

Audit this then.

That's quite the spin. But it does not answer the question at all. What would answer the question and remove all doubt would be President Biden appearing in public and speaking at length without a telepromter or notes. And answering direct questions from all members of the press. That would be normal behavior for any president and there is no precedent for what Biden is doing. It isn't a matter of 'proving a negative'. It is a matter of demonstrating competance when there is suspicion of a lack of competence. And the longer this goes on the more it will look like something is wrong.

[Catfish]

I guess people telling Trump he was demented was a praise then, taking awy his responsibility of talking rubbish all the time.

[AVGWarhawk]

Audit this then.


81 million voters and the media can spend their time looking the other way. However, it is apparently obvious Biden's handlers are pulling him from the spotlight. Biden is the first president to NOT hold a press conference in his first 46 days. When Biden is permitted to speak and answer questions, it is softball subjects. Questions such as favorite ice cream, color and puppy he likes. Even then it is some oddball answer. There is no doubt he is being propped up. This was going on even in the basement bunker campaign. Going off on tangents about nothing. I also believe his wife has been propping him up through the entire process and even today. IMO, she should be ashamed.

[AVGWarhawk]

I guess people telling Trump he was demented was a praise then, taking awy his responsibility of talking rubbish all the time.

At least his craziness was coherent.

[u crank]

I guess people telling Trump he was demented was a praise then, taking awy his responsibility of talking rubbish all the time.

Why does that matter? We're not talking about Trump but we are talking about the current President. But ok then. Trump regularly talked to the media without a script. For doing that he was accused of the exact same thing that people are accusing Biden of. What am I missing here?

As a seventy year old guy I have a certain amount of sympathy for Biden. It is no fun. There are moments of confusion and forgetfulness. It doesn't mean that he can't be an effective President. But why be so dishonest about it? Why does the MSM not want to talk about it? And if it is true why would anyone defend or try to hide it rather than just being honest about it?

The sad fact is he won't get better. A bad , embarrassing moment is going to happen. Then what?

[3catcircus]

Why does that matter? We're not talking about Trump but we are talking about the current President. But ok then. Trump regularly talked to the media without a script. For doing that he was accused of the exact same thing that people are accusing Biden of. What am I missing here?

As a seventy year old guy I have a certain amount of sympathy for Biden. It is no fun. There are moments of confusion and forgetfulness. It doesn't mean that he can't be an effective President. But why be so dishonest about it? Why does the MSM not want to talk about it? And if it is true why would anyone defend or try to hide it rather than just being honest about it?

The sad fact is he won't get better. A bad , embarrassing moment is going to happen. Then what?

Effective? The guy doesn't know where he is. He belongs in a care home. He is worse when he took office in January than Reagan was *after* he left office.

The guy is a dumpster fire. The question isn't even who are his wranglers; rather, who are the actual puppet masters?

[u crank]

Effective? The guy doesn't know where he is. He belongs in a care home. He is worse when he took office in January than Reagan was *after* he left office.

I didn't say he was effective. I said he could be. Actually all of the policies he has put in place are bad. Most of the people he has appointed to high office are not there because they are effective. But those are separate arguments.

The main point to be made here is that (and there is lots of evidence) the Joe Biden of 2021 is not the Joe Biden of just a few years ago. In fact it is painfully obvious.

We shall see.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/09/biden-american-rescue-plan-covid-474919

[AVGWarhawk]

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/09/biden-american-rescue-plan-covid-474919

It says it all right here:

Part of the White House strategy before the Covid package passed was aimed at avoiding the kinds of storyline distractions that Biden can sometimes create in less guarded moments. That’s one reason the White House so far has avoided putting Biden in front of reporters for more in-depth questioning.

Less guarded by who? As stated, Biden is being handled. He is not leading anything.

[mapuc]

(didn't know where to put this, I put it here because it has its border to USA

On a wall behind a man in a youtube video

I read following:

"The world need more Canada"

Now that's interesting, wonder what my American friends has to say about it.

Markus

[August]

"The world need more Canada"

Now that's interesting, wonder what my American friends has to say about it.

Markus


Opinions, everybody has them.

[Rockstar]

No, what the world needs IS NOT more Canada. Have you ever seen their freaking geese? They're the meanest critters around.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMdhAFPWzFw

[Bilge_Rat]

No, what the world needs IS NOT more Canada. Have you ever seen their freaking geese? They're the meanest critters around.



yah they are mean buggers. We had geese that would land on our lawn every spring. Our dog used to love to bark and chase them away, until one faced him and charged him chasing him away. Since then, whenever Geese are around, he pretends he does not see them although I can see he is always checking what they are up to.

[AVGWarhawk]

The 1.9 trillion COVID relief bill has passed. Only 20% is actually for COVID? Garbage bill full of pork.

[Jeff-Groves]

No, what the world needs IS NOT more Canada. Have you ever seen their freaking geese? They're the meanest critters around.

Damned Invasive species!
Protected by the The Migratory Bird Treaty Act.
They are a major problem in many areas!
Damned Canuks!!

PETA could argue the Guy in the video attempted to harm that Canuk.
So he could face charges.
He'd have to plead self defense.

[eddie]

The 1.9 trillion COVID relief bill has passed. Only 20% is actually for COVID? Garbage bill full of pork.



Sure as hell isn't as expensive as the Corporate Welfare tax bill passed by a Republican Congress under Trump,lol Not one bit of pork there either, talk about double standards. That bill still won't pay down on the deficit until after 2035 or 2040, even Senator Johnson admitted that, you know that idiot from Wisconsin



And you won't b...ch about that $1,400 check if you get one, more bullocks from the right!!!

[August]

Sure as hell isn't as expensive as the Corporate Welfare tax bill passed by a Republican Congress under Trump,


It's not surprising that you would consider a tax cut to be the same thing as increased government spending. It's like you think it's all the governments money to begin with.

[nikimcbee]

Take note of the title. Then watch the video. From what little there was of him speaking (15 seconds) it's no wonder we haven't heard more of him lately.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqk3HbwNo1g


lol, I wonder how many takes that video clip took?


C'mon man, you guys...did what? to cornpop? Staged moon landing with Buzz lightyear.


Enjoy your high gas prices.


We shoulda done a pool on how long this DS lasts? Winner gets a BBQ dinner at Neal's pad, assuming they are not still under 10 feet of ice.:Kaleun_Cheers:

[nikimcbee]

Are we allowed to post Cuomo Tyrannus' top 14 dating pick up lines here?


I've never laughed so hard.


In before snowflake, woke zuckerbots or the googleborg shows up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMd8rvCpIzg

[Sonicfire1981]

The 1.9 trillion COVID relief bill has passed. Only 20% is actually for COVID? Garbage bill full of pork.

Maybe there's a way you can return your cheque. If not, donate it to charity. I hear Trump has a pocket for it. He really needs it.

[August]

Maybe there's a way you can return your cheque. If not, donate it to charity. I hear Trump has a pocket for it. He really needs it.


Learn to read. He wasn't complaining about the covid part.

[Sonicfire1981]

Learn to read. He wasn't complaining about the covid part.

learn to process more than one post at a time.
He, also you and a few more, complain about everything your elected president and his administration is and does.
You shouldn't take their money. It's propably chinese. Your senators tried to protect you but failed in the end. If justice is to be served, it needs to be served by you! return it. that'll teach them.

[Rockstar]

U.S. Stocks Gain on Muted Inflation Data

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/u.s.-stocks-gain-on-muted-inflation-data-2021-03-10

I guess ol' 'Amtrak Joe' hasn't had to pay for gas or been to a grocery store lately. Muted inflation data my butt. :har:

[August]

learn to process more than one post at a time.


Aww, touch a nerve did I Spanky? Good!

[Sonicfire1981]

Aww, touch a nerve did I Spanky? Good!

I'm not a rockstar, I'm fine.

[AVGWarhawk]

Maybe there's a way you can return your cheque. If not, donate it to charity. I hear Trump has a pocket for it. He really needs it.

I put it in the church plate. Sadly one day this bill will need to be paid. It will be our kids and kids kids.

[Onkel Neal]

learn to process more than one post at a time.
He, also you and a few more, complain about everything your elected president and his administration is and does.
You shouldn't take their money. It's propably chinese. Your senators tried to protect you but failed in the end. If justice is to be served, it needs to be served by you! return it. that'll teach them.

Actually, it's not "their" money, never was. It's our money. If there has to be a stimulus check, I want mine be because it's a fraction of the money I already sent them.

It would be better if the money only went to those who honestly need it. But a. no one wants to investigate who needs help vs those who claim to need help, and b. everyone will claim to need help.

[AVGWarhawk]

And you won't b...ch about that $1,400 check if you get one, more bullocks from the right!!!

I get taxed on $1400.00 I did not ask for nor need. I give it to the church. Which turns into a tax write-off. The church puts it to good use.

[Skybird]

https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(21)00135-5/fulltext


AJPM: Associations Between Governor Political Affiliation and COVID-19 Cases, Deaths, and Testing in the U.S



Conclusions:
These findings suggest that governor political party affiliation may differentially impact COVID-19 incidence and death rates. Attitudes toward the pandemic were highly polarized in 2020. Future state policy actions should be guided by public health considerations rather than political expedience and should be supported by a coordinated federal response within the new presidential administration.

[Rockstar]

https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(21)00135-5/fulltext


AJPM: Associations Between Governor Political Affiliation and COVID-19 Cases, Deaths, and Testing in the U.S






Meh, I just finished listening to the Presidents congratulations to JPL who did a much better job recording all of the things he said. Including what the nation has accomplished such as "how we beat back COVID". It's a miracle I tell ya and all rainbows and unicorns from here on out, time to move on.

I imagine the new political drama they have to fix is the other one they created, job loss and inflation. And depending on how each State managed their COVID response will determine how fast their economy can recover.

[ET2SN]

Actually, it's not "their" money, never was. It's our money. If there has to be a stimulus check, I want mine be because it's a fraction of the money I already sent them.

It would be better if the money only went to those who honestly need it. But a. no one wants to investigate who needs help vs those who claim to need help, and b. everyone will claim to need help.

You're missing the point of the stimulus. :yep:

It isn't about who deserves the money, its about spending the money like drunken sailors to prop up the local economy. :yeah:

Go to your local garage and get some new hitch nuts for your pick-up truck, invest in a new snow shovel at the local hardware, go all out and buy that brand new mail box while you're at it.

I was trying to figure out how to spend the first stimulus when the light bulb went off (which I replaced) and when I went to the dentist for my annual cleaning, I said "Hey Doc, you're a business, right?" "Yep." "And, you're still local, right?" "Yep again.. Why?" "Well, Doc, I think you just won the lottery. Let's talk about my gnarly tooth and expensive ways to fix it right".


:D

[3catcircus]

https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(21)00135-5/fulltext


AJPM: Associations Between Governor Political Affiliation and COVID-19 Cases, Deaths, and Testing in the U.S




It's a garbage study - the sample size is way too small if we are talking 50 US states and DC. No correction for population size, specific implementation of restrictions (or not) and when, nor in the density of medical facilities in each state. The other thing they aren't accounting for is population exodus from states with high incidence by people who unknowingly brought covid with them, and the associated accordion-effect in transmission once they arrive. Nor the effect of population movement back and forth between states throughout the year.

They look at the wrong data points to draw a predetermined conclusion. Correlation is not causation.

[Jeff-Groves]

Go to your local garage and get some new hitch nuts for your pick-up truck, invest in a new snow shovel at the local hardware, go all out and buy that brand new mail box while you're at it.

:o
You living across the street from me or something?
Needed a new snow shovel.
Need parts for my hitch.
And some SOB hit my mail box!

[AVGWarhawk]

Looking forward to the maternity flight suits coming to the Air Force near you. Honestly Joe Biden, what the hell are you doing? Send pregnant women up in fighter aircraft to fight our wars? Trump might have been a dope but Biden is completely and utterly lost. :doh:

[August]

Hmmm, pull too many negative G's and it might cause the baby to pop right out early!

[AVGWarhawk]

Hmmm, pull too many negative G's and it might cause the baby to pop right out early!

The Pentagon is going along with this.

[Sonicfire1981]

Looking forward to the maternity flight suits coming to the Air Force near you. Honestly Joe Biden, what the hell are you doing? Send pregnant women up in fighter aircraft to fight our wars? Trump might have been a dope but Biden is completely and utterly lost. :doh:

You're right. They should be sent back to the kitchen. women should cook well and deliver and raise american patriots to fight your wars. Women in jets. pregnant even. pff.
...
Seriously, watch less Tucker Carlson and think more for yourself.

local, right?" "Yep again.. Why?" "Well, Doc, I think you just won the lottery. Let's talk about my gnarly tooth and expensive ways to fix it right".


:D

You gotta pay for this yourself, too? ouch.

[AVGWarhawk]

You're right. They should be sent back to the kitchen. women should cook well and deliver and raise american patriots to fight your wars. Women in jets. pregnant even. pff.
...
Seriously, watch less Tucker Carlson and think more for yourself.

Not the point. If one is visibly pregnant is it great idea to send her into combat? Is that the idea of maternity flight suits? What kind of flight time is permitted for pregnant military pilots? Do we really need to see how many Gs an unborn child can handle? What are the implications of say a miscarriage event while in flight? Just pull over and dial 911? Most if not all pregnant women will inquire with their doctor concerning flying. They are looking for the go ahead. And this is just sitting in coach. Not at the stick of a Galaxy.

[Sonicfire1981]

Not the point.

what - exactly - is not the point? calling out unreflected b**ls**t & sexism. because that is, by default, always the point.

If one is visibly pregnant is it great idea to send her into combat?

No. But who does this?

[AVGWarhawk]

what - exactly - is not the point? calling out unreflected b**ls**t & sexism. because that is, by default, always the point.



No. But who does this?

Exactly. What is the point of a maternity flight suit. Nothing to do with sexism. It's an article of clothing for pregnant woman to fly perhaps into combat. You say, who does this? Exactly, so what is the point having maternity flight suits? There is none.

[Sonicfire1981]

Exactly. What is the point of a maternity flight suit. Nothing to do with sexism. It's an article of clothing for pregnant woman to fly perhaps into combat. You say, who does this? Exactly, so what is the point having maternity flight suits? There is none.

Now I would have to ask you to stay on topic: In which sentence, exactly, of which article, by the way, is Joe Biden sending pregnant women to war?

And, *after that*,
what's the point of maternity belt adjusters? driving does endanger unborn kids way more than jet engines - that's a fact.
and what's the point of maternity seat cushions? I don't see how one can cook dinner while sitting on the couch.

[AVGWarhawk]

Now I would have to ask you to stay on topic: In which sentence, exactly, of which article, by the way, is Joe Biden sending pregnant women to war?

And, *after that*,
what's the point of maternity belt adjusters? driving does endanger unborn kids way more than jet engines - that's a fact.
and what's the point of maternity seat cushions? I don't see how one can cook dinner while sitting on the couch.

Did Joe say he was not sending pregnant women into combat? Semantics. Furthermore, why bring it up at all a press conference? Of what purpose does it serve? Do we need to know at this particular time?

[Sonicfire1981]

Did Joe say he was not sending pregnant women into combat? Semantics. Furthermore, why bring it up at all a press conference? Of what purpose does it serve? Do we need to know at this particular time?

So he did not actually sent pregnant women to war?

[AVGWarhawk]

So he did not actually sent pregnant women to war?
Currently there are no wars to fight. But I'm sure they will be along. Since there are maternity flight suits I guess he now can have them suit up and fly a F35. Why not right? Sexism and all. Im glad he mentioned this in his press conference. It certainly was on everyone's mind. You know, like vaccine delivery and such.

[Rockstar]

What a Brown Shoe calls a flight suit. Navy and Coast Guard Black Shoes, Army pukes and your local shade tree mechanic call coveralls. They are not G-suits they're just plain ol' coveralls.

[Sonicfire1981]

Looking forward to the maternity flight suits coming to the Air Force near you. Honestly Joe Biden, what the hell are you doing? Send pregnant women up in fighter aircraft to fight our wars? Trump might have been a dope but Biden is completely and utterly lost. :doh:

Currently there are no wars to fight. But I'm sure they will be along. Since there are maternity flight suits I guess he now can have them suit up and fly a F35. Why not right? Sexism and all. Im glad he mentioned this in his press conference. It certainly was on everyone's mind. You know, like vaccine delivery and such.

Yeah. "sexism and all" no biggy, right?
EDIT: I think I figured it out. Biden - or better his handlers - plan to draft all pregnant american women, force them into a F35, loose the war, get all F35 shot down in order to have the kids of illegal imigrants reign supreme. clever plan, you must give him that. sorry. you must give his handlers that.

also, hit us: you're unhappy with vaccine delivery?

[August]

EDIT: I think I figured it out. Biden -


Careful bud, you're gonna strain a muscle stretching to defend the old boy.

[AVGWarhawk]

Yeah. "sexism and all" no biggy, right?
EDIT: I think I figured it out. Biden - or better his handlers - plan to draft all pregnant american women, force them into a F35, loose the war, get all F35 shot down in order to have the kids of illegal imigrants reign supreme. clever plan, you must give him that. sorry. you must give his handlers that.

also, hit us: you're unhappy with vaccine delivery?

Not sure how illegal immigrants got into the mix.

[3catcircus]

What a Brown Shoe calls a flight suit. Navy and Coast Guard Black Shoes, Army pukes and your local shade tree mechanic call coveralls. They are not G-suits they're just plain ol' coveralls.

Slow down there. Those of us black shoes who are or were actual submariners call them poopy suits.

[ET2SN]

As I understand it, "Brown shoes" mostly referred to Army (USAAF) officers who converted to the Air Force in 1949. The USAF had a new dress/working uniform of a blue suit and white or light blue shirt and black shoes. If the officer started out in the USAAF, they were grandfathered and could either wear the new uniform or the older Army khakis and brown shoes.

By the 1960's, "brown shoes" were senior USAF officers who had been around long enough that they had earned their commission in the Army, during or just after WWII.

[August]

One would hardly expect our draft dodging president to know the difference.

[Rockstar]

As I understand it, "Brown shoes" mostly referred to Army (USAAF) officers who converted to the Air Force in 1949. The USAF had a new dress/working uniform of a blue suit and white or light blue shirt and black shoes. If the officer started out in the USAAF, they were grandfathered and could either wear the new uniform or the older Army khakis and brown shoes.

By the 1960's, "brown shoes" were senior USAF officers who had been around long enough that they had earned their commission in the Army, during or just after WWII.

A 'brown shoe' refers to naval aviators because back in the day that's the color of the shoe only they wore because they're just so special. :O:

In the fleet senior officers, bosun's, boatswain's mate, snipes and the lower forms of life like bubbleheads, cannon cockers, junior officers, cooks, and skivvy wavers etc, etc. were issued and wore black shoes. Its been a very long time since brown shoes were a seabag item. But most airdales still know what you're referring too if you call them a brown shoe.

[Dowly]

One would hardly expect our draft dodging president to know the difference.
He says, after years of supporting a draft dodging president.

[Sonicfire1981]

One would hardly expect our draft dodging president to know the difference.
He says, after years of supporting a draft dodging president.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/burn-meme.jpg

[Jeff-Groves]

When did it become an issue when the rich dodged the Draft?
Substitution and commutation? Ever heard of it?

I doubt the poor could take advantage at that time.

[Sonicfire1981]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrrQSRj_FKc

[AVGWarhawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrrQSRj_FKc

Opinion journalism. Makes for ratings. Gives other opinion journalist like CNN a segment that hopefully generates ratings. It's a wonderful push me pull you story.

[Moonlight]

This is being taken out of context, he's most probably not against women serving in the military, what he's questioning is why the hell does a woman want to put a flight suit on and put her unborn babies life on the line while pulling a 4G or 6G turn.

Can you pull a 6G turn because I have no idea, perhaps the military could find a willing pregnant female pilot and put every ones mind at rest by doing some aerial stunts for a media PR blitz, will there be anyone thick enough to do it. :o

[Dowly]

Looking forward to the maternity flight suits coming to the Air Force near you. Honestly Joe Biden, what the hell are you doing? Send pregnant women up in fighter aircraft to fight our wars? Trump might have been a dope but Biden is completely and utterly lost. :doh:
The plans for maternity flight suits came up in September of 2019. During Trump's presidency.

Pregnant pilots are also already free to continue flying, if they so choose. It was even made easier for them to do so, in 2019. During Trump's presidency.

[3catcircus]

The plans for maternity flight suits came up in September of 2019. During Trump's presidency.

Pregnant pilots are also already free to continue flying, if they so choose. It was even made easier for them to do so, in 2019. During Trump's presidency.

And it was done quietly and without fanfare because, unlike Burden, Trump wasn't playing the identity politics game.

[Dowly]

And it was done quietly and without fanfare because, unlike Burden, Trump wasn't playing the identity politics game.

Below is the entire speech by Biden, I've highlighted the part were he mentions the maternity flight suits. Wow, such fanfare.

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Madam Vice President, and thank you, Mr. Secretary.

On Friday, I submitted to the Senate for confirmation my first slate of nominations for four-star command positions in our Armed Forces — among them, two outstanding and eminently

qualified warriors and patriots. General Jacqueline Van Ovost in the United States Air Force is currently the only female four-star officer serving in our military. I nominated her as Commander of the United States Transportation Command.

And when confirmed, the Lieutenant General Laura Richardson, of the United States Army, will be promoted in rank and join General Van Ovost as the only four-star — as another four-star general. I nominated her as Commander in the United States Southern Command.

And, when confirmed, they will become the second and third women in the history of the United States Armed Forces to lead combatant commands.

Each of these women have led careers demonstrating incomparable skill, integrity, and duty to country. And at every step, they’ve also helped push open the doors of opportunity to women in our military — blazing the trail a little wider, a little brighter for all the proud women following in their path and looking to their example.

And I wanted to shine the light on these accomplishments for those women today because General Van Ovost — as reiterated in an interview this last week, and I’m the second person to say this — it’s hard to be what you can’t see. It’s hard to be what you can’t see, but you’ll soon see.

Today is International Women’s Day. And we all need to see and to recognize the barrier-breaking accomplishments of these women. We need the young women just beginning their careers in the military service to see it and know that no door will be closed to them. We need women and men throughout the ranks to see and celebrate women’s accomplishments and leadership in the services. We need little girls and boys both, who have grown up dreaming of serving for their country, to know this is what generals in the United States Armed Forces look like. This is what Vice Presidents of United States look like.

So I’d like to spend just a few minutes today making sure that America knows who General Van Ovost is and Lieutenant General Richardson is. They’re aviators. Both learned to fly planes before they were old enough to drive a car.

General Van Ovost, a first-generation — is a first-generation American: the daughter of Dutch immigrants who owned a flying operation. She loved the freedom of flight and, as a teenager, flew herself to see Sally Ride lift off as the first woman in space. Sixteen years old, goes down to see Sally Ride. She said she was at several thousand feet watching from a distance.

You know, women weren’t — were banned from flying combat missions when the General joined the force, so she focused on becoming a test pilot. And instead of learning to fly just one plane, she learned to fly everything, including Air Force Two when I was Vice President.

General Van Ovost currently is — oversees Air Mobility Command: approximately 107,000 airmen and 1,100 planes that enable America’s air power and humanitarian assistance to go everywhere in the world it need be. From flying water to Texans after the recent storms, to ensuring our wounded warriors are evacuated for medical care from anywhere in the world, she gets it done.

Lieutenant General Richardson’s parents were proud patriots. It must have rubbed off because Lieutenant General Richardson and her brother and sister all joined the Army. Her father encouraged her to join ROTC in college, even though that meant commuting to a different school.

When Lieutenant General Richardson joined the Army Aviation Branch, women were banned from flying attack helicopters. She flew to — in support of combatant — combat missions, and conducting lift operations of her UH-1 — the so-called “Huey” — and the Blackhawks.

Now, as a commanding general of the United States Army North, Lieutenant General Richardson oversees military ground responses here in North America all over — all over the last year. That’s meant getting military and medical personnel deployed to help in our response to this pandemic. More than 4,500 military and medical personnel deployed in hospitals across 14 states and the Navajo Nation to treat COVID-19 patients. It means more than 2,200 medical personnel are working, or soon will be, at vaccination sites in eight states and the United States Virgin Islands.

I’m so proud of the incredible work Lieutenant General Richardson and her team have done to support the American people this year, and the American people are as well. They’re warriors. They’re crisis-tested commanders.

But best of all — but best of all, they’re not done yet. Neither of these incredible generals is resting on her laurels or on her stars. They’re using their voices and actively working to change policies in the military to make it easier and safer for more women not just to join the military, but to stay in the military and to thrive.

I’m incredibly proud that in 2015, under the Obama-Biden administration, we took the final steps to open up all positions in the military to anyone qualified to serve in them. The women who join today’s military aren’t told “no” when they apply to fly fighter jets or attack helicopters just because of their gender. They aren’t told “no” when they want to apply to Ranger School or infantry officer basic training.

But they all know that there’s much, much more work to be done to ensure that women’s leadership is recognized and we have more diverse leaders; we reach the top echelons of command for all who are qualified, including all women — all women; and that all women feel safe and respected in our military — period.

You know, some of — some of it is relatively straightforward work where we’re making good progress designing body armor that fits women properly; tailoring combat uniforms for women; creating maternity flight suits; updating — updating requirements for their hairstyles.

And some of it is going to take — and — you know, an intensity of purpose and mission to really change the culture and habits that cause women to leave the military:

That women are — making sure more diverse candidates are considering — being considered for career-advancing opportunities at every single level.

That women aren’t penalized in their careers for having children.

That women aren’t just token members, but integral parts throughout all branches and all divisions.

And that they can completely, fairly engage in promotion and compete all across the board, including on the — on age and gender neutrality and the physical fitness test.

You know that both members of the — of the military couples can thrive while serving, like Lieutenant General Richardson and her husband, Lieutenant General Richardson, who, I might add, I want to thank you for getting me off a mountain that was about 12- to 14,000 feet up on a goat path when our helicopter went down in a snowstorm. It’s good to see you, General. The ride down that mountain was more perilous in a truck than it was in the helicopter, but thank you.

And we have to take on sexual assault and harassment and violence against women in the military. Sexual assault is a abhorrent and wrong at any time. And in our military, where so much of unit cohesion is built on trusting your fellow service members to have your back, there’s nothing less than a threat to our national security.

I know Secretary Austin takes this as seriously as Vice President Harris and I do. That’s why his first memo as Secretary was a directive to take on sexual assault in the military and why he stepped up independent review — he set up an Independent Review Commission on Sexual Assault to make concrete recommendations for changes.

This is going to be an all-hands-on-deck effort under my administration to end the scourge of sexual assault in the military. And we’re going to be focused on that from the very top. I know that we can do it.

The U.S. Military has defeated American enemies on land, in air, and at sea, and this is not beyond us.

I want to thank General Van Ovost — Ovost and Lieutenant General Richardson for their exemplary careers and service to our country. You’re America’s patriotism at its finest: undaunted and absolutely — absolutely able to do anything by any obstacle; determined to open wide and the doors of opportunity; and ready for the next challenge.

It’s my great honor to serve as your Commander-in-Chief. And I look forward to hearing your active-duty and recommendations of how we will work together to keep the American people safe to meet every challenge in the 21st century.

So I want to thank you both. And I want to thank Sec- — the former general — I keep calling him “General.” My — the guy who runs that outfit over there. I want to make sure we thank the Secretary for all he’s done to try to implement what we’ve just talked about, and for recommending these two women for promotion.

Thank you all. May God bless you all. And may God protect our troops. Thank you.

Thank you, everybody.

[Rockstar]

The plans for maternity flight suits came up in September of 2019. During Trump's presidency.

Pregnant pilots are also already free to continue flying, if they so choose. It was even made easier for them to do so, in 2019. During Trump's presidency.

Maternity wear in the military has been around for a very long long time. I remember seeing them in the 70's. Whether they're flight suits, coveralls, dress uniforms, fatigues, or whatever. Every branch of service has them and improvements and changes are made all the time. In this case a change was made to a pregnant woman's flight status. Which probably in turn allowed the change to uniform apparel to be made. It's happened before I don't see what the controversy it's its old news. But it is today's headline though and like flies... well you know.

However as for a woman's choice, it's not a free for all. The choice' applies only between the 1st and 34th week of an uncomplicated pregnancy. To continue to fly applies only to non-ejection type aircraft or UAV's. Pilots of other aircraft will most likely be grounded as soon as the pregnancy is known. Physical standards are in writing and must always be met by both men and women in all branches of the U.S. armed forces, it's not a secret everyone in the service knows this. They also know the flight surgeon or other qualified physician determines the physical health of the service member and whether they can continue performing their duty. A doctor will be the one who determines whether a pregnancy may affect a woman's flight status just as he will determine if a man's vision has declined to the point him being unable to effectively do his job.

In my opinion the biggest change in all of this is the fact that a pregnant woman no longer has to waste time cutting through red tape for waivers and special doctor's appointments just to prove she's capable to carry out her duty between weeks 1 and 34 of an uncomplicated pregnancy. It's just been made easier for her to continue doing her job without the headache of having to jump through hoops. Its the Air Force ferchrissakes, its not like its a hard job ;) :D

[3catcircus]

Below is the entire speech by Biden, I've highlighted the part were he mentions the maternity flight suits. Wow, such fanfare.

Yes, fanfare. That a mundane thing was even part of a speech is fanfare. Newsflash - none of us who were or are in the military who don't have an agenda give a sh!t about something like this because it's a don't care item since maternity wear for women has been around for ages - as long as you do your job and pull your own weight, no one cares if you are male or female.

[Jeff-Groves]

I was dating a Woman once when I got into a bar fight.
As the Bouncers held me back the other Guy sucker punched me!
That Woman JUMPED over the bouncers and broke his nose dropping him instantly!

I married her and am still married to her. So guess who MY back up is?

[AVGWarhawk]

The plans for maternity flight suits came up in September of 2019. During Trump's presidency.

Pregnant pilots are also already free to continue flying, if they so choose. It was even made easier for them to do so, in 2019. During Trump's presidency.

So in essences Biden is taking credit for maternity suits that started to take shape(no pun intended) during the Trump administration as well as credit for the vaccine that also was completed during the Trump administration.

[AVGWarhawk]

This is being taken out of context, he's most probably not against women serving in the military, what he's questioning is why the hell does a woman want to put a flight suit on and put her unborn babies life on the line while pulling a 4G or 6G turn.

Can you pull a 6G turn because I have no idea, perhaps the military could find a willing pregnant female pilot and put every ones mind at rest by doing some aerial stunts for a media PR blitz, will there be anyone thick enough to do it. :o

I'm inclined to believe a woman's maternal instinct would kick in and she would not fly. But this remark may be sexist. I don't know. To say the moon is full is sexist if one would like to think so.

[August]

He says, after years of supporting a draft dodging president.


Yeah so? What business is it of yours either way? This isn't about Sweden or wherever the heck you come from.

[mapuc]

A majority of the Americans voters and some politicians during the election campaign there was negative against former President.

Reading between the lines from today's news here in Denmark tells me they have taken over where former President left.

I'm talking about Biden & Co attempt to establish contact with NK and KJU.

Markus

[Dowly]

So in essences Biden is taking credit for maternity suits that started to take shape(no pun intended) during the Trump administration as well as credit for the vaccine that also was completed during the Trump administration.
He isn't taking credit for the suits. Don't know about the vaccine, haven't followed what he has said about it.


Yeah so? What business is it of yours either way? This isn't about Sweden or wherever the heck you come from.I'll never pass a chance to point out how full of sh!t you are.
As for you comment about where I'm from, that just makes you look like a demented, grumpy old man.

[August]

I'll never pass a chance to point out how full of sh!t you are.


I guess you don't realize that I adore your hatred. I mean really is there anything I can do to make you hate me even more? Your liberal tears are absolutely delicious and I would draw more of them from you if possible.

[Jimbuna]

I was dating a Woman once when I got into a bar fight.
As the Bouncers held me back the other Guy sucker punched me!
That Woman JUMPED over the bouncers and broke his nose dropping him instantly!

I married her and am still married to her. So guess who MY back up is?

Nancy Lady :03:

[3catcircus]

A majority of the Americans voters and some politicians during the election campaign there was negative against former President.

Reading between the lines from today's news here in Denmark tells me they have taken over where former President left.

I'm talking about Biden & Co attempt to establish contact with NK and KJU.

Markus

You mean the attempt that was ignored? Not even rebuffed, but just ignored like you'd ignore an insect walking in a tree? That attempt?

As opposed to the previous guy who was the first to even get the North Koreans to *come* to a negotiating table, *at all*, in 60+ years of the "experts" from both major US political parties trying and failing.

[Sonicfire1981]

You mean the attempt that was ignored? Not even rebuffed, but just ignored like you'd ignore an insect walking in a tree? That attempt?

As opposed to the previous guy who was the first to even get the North Koreans to *come* to a negotiating table, *at all*, in 60+ years of the "experts" from both major US political parties trying and failing.

North Korea wanted a seat at the table for a long time. It's good to adore a president who folded.

reminder, it was this incident:

https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2018/06/trump_saluting_north_korean_general_meme.jpg?resiz e=865,452&quality=65

Yeah so? What business is it of yours either way? This isn't about Sweden or wherever the heck you come from.
Aww, touch a nerve did I Spanky? Good!

[August]

North Korea wanted a seat at the table for a long time. It's good to adore a president who folded.

reminder, it was this incident:




Kim wanted a seat at the negotiating table. Hmmm :hmmm: Repeated administrations had tried, cajoled, begged, to no avail, to get him to that very same table and now you're acting like it was some sort of prize for the NKs to get a seat? :doh:


And what exactly did Trump fold on? Did he send a whole planeload of cash to Kim like your boy Obama gave to the Iranians? Did he give our nuclear and other sensitive technology to the ChiComs like your boy Bill Clinton? Was it anything like that?

[AVGWarhawk]

He isn't taking credit for the suits. Don't know about the vaccine, haven't followed what he has said about it.




Let's put it another way, by omission, it appears that Biden is taking credit for the vaccine created under Warp Speed as directed by Trump. Biden or any other dope on Capitol Hill has not given credit to Trump for pushing for the vaccine and seeing it through. In the same light, by omission, Biden appears to have instituted the idea of maternity flight suits. Biden failed to mention this began under Trump administration during his press conference. I can assure you if anything negative can be said about Trump it will be and repeatedly.

[Onkel Neal]

Reminder: please avoid making this personal. We cannot allow a discussion to turn into a rancorous personal attack. Mind your words, guys.

[August]

It is no secret that Joe Biden is not in charge of the executive branch. Nor does it come as a surprise. The only observable difference between 2020 presidential hopeful Joe and 2021 President Joe, is his change of address. He moved from a basement somewhere in Delaware to a basement at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. In fact, a benign question (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/19/joe-biden-takes-question-on-milkshake-flavors-scur/) from a pathetic journalist today as to what type of ice cream Joe is eating would be received with a standing ovation.

What is surprising, however, is how effective and advantageous his non-presidency has been for the Democratic Party. His mental incapacitation has not hindered the left’s sinister Marxist agenda to transform the United States from a Constitutional republic to a totalitarian state, but has helped facilitate it.

While Joe’s mental impairment remains the elephant in the room for Democrats and their propagandists in the media, who refuse to acknowledge the obvious, we don’t need them to confirm what we can see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears. Whether it’s Joe admitting (https://www.ibtimes.sg/biden-caught-saying-i-dont-know-what-im-signing-before-signing-executive-order-video-55157) on camera that he has no idea what he’s signing as he signs an executive order, or Joe forgetting (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-seems-to-forget-defense-secretarys-name-calls-him-the-guy-who-runs-that-outfit) his defense secretary’s name, Joe giving an unprecedented zero (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/05/does-it-matter-president-joe-biden-no-press-conference/6920568002/) press conferences, or even Joe’s reneged promise (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/03/09/biden-will-deliver-first-primetime-address-to-mark-one-year-since-covid-shutdown-still-mum-on-sotu-1039571/) to deliver an address to a joint session of Congress in February, it all demonstrably proves one thing — Joe Biden is unfit for the office he nominally holds.

But so long as Joe remains the “president,” even if this is understood as merely a figurative role, the Democrats will continue to have wild success in their diabolical and unconstitutional efforts to destroy America. There is a reason the cognitively challenged Biden has already proven to be a far more effective radical Marxist than even Barack Obama — expectation, or rather, a lack of expectation.
Barack Obama also held a Democratic majority in the legislature during his first two years in office. But Barack Obama’s mental acuity was a handicap to the unpopular, radical agenda of the left. When Barack Obama signed a flurry of executive orders and championed questionable and unconstitutional legislation, he still was expected to answer to the American people. While Obama was radical, the American people still remained partially informed. At least some diffusion of knowledge took place as Obama was expected to explain and defend his agenda, and took questions from the press.
Even those of us who are the most vocal and unequivocal critics of Joe’s obvious mental decline must also admit that the very thing we demand — a president, for example — we cannot have. We are living in a nightmare scenario. It’s like trying to cancel some subscription service or seeking answers to some other technical issue and being put on hold, endlessly transferred from one unintelligible party to another, and never getting any answers or resolution.

In the absence of a president, we take our questions and concerns to Jen Psaki, who would benefit from the excuse of dementia. But her challenge is not mental decline, but an unfortunate inability to communicate, a lack of preparedness in part due to her lack of a boss in the Oval Office, and her own limited IQ. Like the worst hotel concierge or IT specialist, her response to everything is, “I’ll circle back on that,” which better translates to, “I have no idea, I’m as unqualified and unfit as my boss, Joe Biden.” It is also damning proof that there is a vacuum in the White House.

What is the upshot? The American people and our country have been plunged into darkness. We have largely no idea what is going on. While we can speculate as to who is actually running the country — Obama? Susan Rice (https://www.kabc.com/news/ric-grenell-to-newsmax-tv-president-susan-rice-in-charge/)? — we have no access to the one individual “responsible” for the literal decimation of our economy, our safety, and our freedom. America is being run by a shadow government and in the absence of any actual leader. We can’t even rely on the limited defense of pressuring and demanding accountability from the titular leader of the executive branch.

Joe Biden’s nomination was due to his superficial appeal to the moderate Democrat and the basement strategy employed to bolster his chances of victory. While I reluctantly applaud the Democrats’ proven aptitude for a long-term strategy, I don’t believe they ever calculated the then-unknown benefits of a mentally impaired president.

We cannot simultaneously admit that Biden is mentally unfit for the presidency and simultaneously expect that he fulfills his duties. This is the bizarre dilemma we now face. So long as he remains in office, those Americans who religiously watch CNN and get their propaganda from the Washington Post will never be exposed to anything remotely resembling reality.

While Joe continues to be largely hidden from public view and protected by his handlers from facing questioning, and Jen Psaki continues to carry out her circle back strategy, those of us who do demand answers and wish to live in reality will be forced to continue this insufferable existence in the twilight zone, or purgatory.

Joe Biden is a strategy for the Democratic Party at this point, not a hindrance or frustration. As the rag known as the Washington Post declares, “Democracy dies in darkness.” We are living in darkness. I regret to say that we would be better off with Kamala Harris. At least if she was president, there would be no unspoken excuse either understood or accepted for this un-American and totalitarian regime. But if the Democrats are smart, they’ll keep Joe around as long as they can.

https://townhall.com/columnists/drewallen/2021/03/15/bidens-mental-decline-is-a-democratic-strategy-not-a-democratic-problem-n2586236?fbclid=IwAR3qbVV98ganAsKaGAI8LXAfHmG3MCXu 6GfpMkS8FTOW60xe19r4BeYZ7bQ

[Moonlight]

Can't the Republicans force a live televised interview with the president to prove he's bloody competent, a two hour question and answer session would put all rumours of him being half brain dead to bed then, and then again, it might prove that he needs removing pretty damned fast.

[u crank]

Can't the Republicans force a live televised interview with the president to prove he's bloody competent, a two hour question and answer session would put all rumours of him being half brain dead to bed then, and then again, it might prove that he needs removing pretty damned fast.

No they cannot. The President's access to the media is controlled by the White House. That being said I don't think there is anything to prove. If there was nothing wrong Biden would have faced the media long ago. And the longer it goes on the worse the speculation will be. His lack of transparency is getting hard to explain away.

[AVGWarhawk]

His lack of transparency is getting hard to explain away.

We know Joe can't explain it either. Not with any coherency anyway.

[AVGWarhawk]

Jen Psaki flat out lies.

[Moonlight]

She might well be one, but putting her on the spot is going to be nigh on impossible, she seems to have been born to this type of career, maybe she's a future politician in the making, and Christ knows you're lacking some competent ones.

[AVGWarhawk]

She might well be one, but putting her on the spot is going to be nigh on impossible, she seems to have been born to this type of career, maybe she's a future politician in the making, and Christ knows you're lacking some competent ones.

Let's circle back on that....

[u crank]

Jen Psaki flat out lies.

Yea. I for one am wondering how long before she gets reassigned to something away from the mic. When the lefty journos start complaining you know there is trouble.

[Moonlight]

Let's circle back on that....

Her response to everything is, “I’ll circle back on that,” that does not say she is as unqualified and unfit as Joe Biden does it, what it does say to me is the ones pulling the strings haven't got a bleeding clue how to handle things, and more importantly, they aren't fully instructing Jen Psaki either that's why she's saying it.

[3catcircus]

Her response to everything is, “I’ll circle back on that,” that does not say she is as unqualified and unfit as Joe Biden does it, what it does say to me is the ones pulling the strings haven't got a bleeding clue how to handle things, and more importantly, they aren't fully instructing Jen Psaki either that's why she's saying it.

That assumes they even communicate to begin with. Part of the problem is likely that Burden is so it of it before 10am, there is no way to even discuss things with him.

One press conference in 50 days with him, and it was terrible.

Those of us who weren't drinking the koolaide understood that they "called a lid" every day during the campaign because that's what you do when your candidate suffers from dementia. *Everyone* who has cared for a family member suffering from such cognitive decline understands that their lucidity is best early in the day and progressively gets worse as the day goes on.

[Skybird]

There was what they said there has not been.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-intel-agencies-say-russia-tried-help-trump-china-n1261234

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intel-report-finds-russia-iran-influence-2020-election/story?id=76494206&cid=clicksource_4380645_3_heads_hero_live_headline s_hed

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/16/politics/us-election-intel-report/index.html

[Jeff-Groves]

WTH is "dining the koolaide"?
And "stuff from dementia"?

I'm starting to wonder about you!
:haha:

And before you ask.
My Mother died after suffering with dementia for years.
So I've been down that road.

[Rockstar]

We know Joe can't explain it either. Not with any coherency anyway.

This is what the American people wanted, its what they happily voted for and they achieved a landslide victory! Be happy for them. :yeah:

[3catcircus]

WTH is "dining the koolaide"?
And "stuff from dementia"?

I'm starting to wonder about you!
:haha:

And before you ask.
My Mother died after suffering with dementia for years.
So I've been down that road.

It's called fat finger-itis...

And I also had to deal with my mother having Alzheimer's. What got her was actually pneumonia - for whatever reason, Alzheimer's patients put on a ventilator have poor outcomes.