US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Rockstar]

Ah the true nature of Putin Democrat investigations. How to make people care about their dog and pony show government boondoggle while inflation skyrockets and the threat of a global war looms.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jan-6-committee-faces-a-thorny-challenge-convincing-the-public-to-care/ar-AAVegdY

Their challenge: Making the public care deeply — and read hundreds of pages more — about an event that happened more than a year ago, and that many Americans feel they already understand.

They’ll attempt to do so this spring through public hearings, along with a potential interim report and a final report that will be published ahead of the November midterms

[Buddahaid]

Keep trying.

[Skybird]

I see the extreme polarization and the implementation of deflective-projective defence mechanisms have made extremely good progress since my last visit in this thread.

[August]

Keep trying.

:D

https://i.imgur.com/3zGSReS.jpg

[Otto Harkaman]

:D

https://i.imgur.com/3zGSReS.jpg


:har:

[Rockstar]

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-think-the-only-reason-clarence-thomas-is-on-the-court-is-because-he-is-black-joe-biden-136-90-70.jpg


https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-never-had-an-interest-in-being-a-mayor-cause-that-s-a-real-job-you-have-to-produce-joe-biden-102-29-25.jpg

[Catfish]

Any Trump quotes yet? :D

[August]

Any Trump quotes yet? :D


Why? They'd be as relevant today as quotes by George Bush or Andrew Johnson or any other former POTUS. This is about the people running the show now.

[Rockstar]

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-you-know-it-really-doesn-t-matter-what-the-media-write-as-long-as-you-ve-got-a-young-donald-trump-63-85-62.jpg

[Rockstar]

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-when-you-re-appealing-to-people-s-fears-and-anxieties-you-can-make-some-gains-joe-biden-153-59-00.jpg

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-the-worst-things-in-history-have-happened-when-people-stop-thinking-for-themselves-especially-donald-trump-54-36-66.jpg

[mapuc]

I had to look them up-Because I thought it was fake quotes.
Well they can still be fake.

Markus

[Rockstar]

My my aren't we being offensive today.

Your right, sorry, I don’t think Putin ever once threatened to refuse peoples health care or prevent access to treatment if they didn’t inject themselves with experimental drugs . It was those heartless aresholes from the Joseph Mengele school of medicine who demanded that.

As far as those who have differing opinions than his. It’s known he will lock up them and throw away the key. Putin Democrats love that idea am I right? “ I hope the ******* never gets free”

[Buddahaid]

Your right, sorry, I don’t think Putin ever once threatened to refuse peoples health care or prevent access to treatment if they didn’t inject themselves with experimental drugs . It was those heartless aresholes from the Joseph Mengele school of medicine who demanded that.

As far as those who have differing opinions than his. It’s known he will lock up them and throw away the key. Putin Democrats love that idea am I right? “ I hope the ******* never gets free”

I see my statement has hit a tender spot and I admit the statement is extreme. But I believe people like him defiled the USA in the name of a more fascist idealism I find contrary to the constitution the country was founded on, and while those like him say they stand by it, I don't think most actually have read it.

And furthermore, while I align myself with democrats, I find the "Putin Democrats" label about as offensive as anything anyone could call me.

[Skybird]

Fact is it is Trump who snuggles his head to Putins chest whenever he could. He is a Putin fanboy. Just less than three weeks ago he expressed his admiration for him again because somebody around him made a mistake and left the cagedoor open. And by Russian interference with elections and media Trump is Putins creature like the monster was Frankenstein's.


And some still dont get it. Hilarious. Trump would love to be a fascist dictator, if only they would let him. But lets be patient, what is not yet, still can be. He aims at wanting to become a mumbling presidential mummy like Biden - just a fascist presidential mummy.

[Buddahaid]

Not a chance. Too much republican sense is creeping in and the Donalds brand is getting redirected for the poison it represents.

I wonder why he keeps harping about windmills? It can't be because they work so it must be something else. Maybe another failed Trump branded boondoggle?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-organization-ordered-to-pay-290000-after-losing-battle-against-scottish-wind-farm/2019/11/12/3657cdd4-0561-11ea-ac12-3325d49eacaa_story.html

"Judges on the U.K. Supreme Court unanimously rejected Trump’s legal challenge in 2015. In February, the Trump Organization was ordered to pay the Scottish government’s legal bills. But the issue was not resolved for several months because the Scottish government said that the Trump Organization had not agreed to an amount.

Trump’s Aberdeen golf course lost $1.4 million including depreciation last year, its seventh consecutive year of losses under Trump, according to documents filed with the British government. The course’s operating loss for the year was $1.1 million."

[Gorpet]

I see the extreme polarization and the implementation of deflective-projective defence mechanisms have made extremely good progress since my last visit in this thread.

Your a good teacher, Skybird tho not all of us are on your fencing level, It doesn't mean we don't understand you. If I for example read everything you post.I will find in those lengthy diatribes not only your truth as you believe it. But the man who took so long to compose it. Tks.

[Skybird]

Birds of same feather flock together.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/18/politics/madison-cawthorn-republican-reaction/index.html

Cawthorn isn't the only Republican creating Russia-related headaches for the GOP. Cawthorn was one of 15 Republicans who voted against a bill to ban Russian oil imports (https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/09/politics/house-passes-russia-oil-ban/index.html) last week, while eight Republicans opposed legislation this week to revoke normal trade relations with Russia and Belarus. Meanwhile, freshman Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, who voted against a massive spending bill that contained $13.6 billion in Ukraine aid, recently accused the Biden administration of funding "NATO Nazis." And last month, Trump described Putin as a "genius" and "savvy" for his invasion of Ukraine.

[Buddahaid]

Well Trump does know more about failure than anyone else and let's not forget how he pushed Zelenski for dirt on Biden as a favor for providing arms to Ukraine.

[August]

Well Trump does know more about failure than anyone else and let's not forget how he pushed Zelenski for dirt on Biden as a favor for providing arms to Ukraine.


I think you got your demoncrat propaganda all mixed up bud. Maybe you should consult the Steele Report. :roll:

[Buddahaid]

I think you got your demoncrat propaganda all mixed up bud. Maybe you should consult the Steele Report. :roll:

Transcript.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html

[Rockstar]

Transcript.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html

Assuming you read the transcript I’m sure you have a point to make by posting it. Mind sharing? Because I read it and it seems Zelensky and the Orange man had a pretty good conversation. Seems to me Zelensky was appreciative what the U.S. was contributing but thought France and Germany weren’t doing enough and didn’t enforce sanctions. I’m assuming you read more than the headline so what did you get out of it?

[Onkel Neal]

Transcript.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html

Thanks, that was helpful, I've never read the transcript. I have to say, if that was the basis for Trump's impeachment, it's bs. Maybe I need to go back and read it more carefully, but I did not see anything approaching an impeachable offense.

[MaDef]

There is no point, they are just mudding the waters. But to answer your question to Buddahaid, He's alleging that Trump threatened to withhold military aid to Ukraine unless President Zelenskyy opened an investigation into the dealings of Burisma and Hunter Biden as it relates to Joe Biden. (something - ie; - quid-pro-quo, that Joe Biden has publicly admitted to doing in regards to giving aid to Ukraine during his tenure as VP) And Buddahaid is basing this on the following part of the transcript

The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.

It's already been debunked but people keep trying to use it to divert any kind of scrutiny on Biden's anemic leadership since he took office.

[August]

It's already been debunked but people keep trying to use it to divert any kind of scrutiny on Biden's anemic leadership since he took office.


That pretty much sums it up. Remember how they blamed George Bush for everything under the sun right up to the end of Obamas second term?

[mapuc]

We live to learn and today I learned something new about the US President.
Something called President Pro Tempore - of the United States Senate

This was new to me(Can't remember having read it here)

Made a search and found this wiki-page
(To my fellow American friends is it correct what it says on this wiki-page ?)

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I think a link might help Markus :06:

[mapuc]

I think a link might help Markus :06:

:oops:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_pro_tempore_of_the_United_States_Senate

Markus

[les green01]

It's correct Markus

[Catfish]

Thanks, that was helpful, I've never read the transcript. I have to say, if that was the basis for Trump's impeachment, it's bs. Maybe I need to go back and read it more carefully, but I did not see anything approaching an impeachable offense.
Which is a bit strange, i remember an audio tape back then being published which was "a bit" different, but seems it has meanwhile been deleted. Maybe for the better.

[mapuc]

It's correct Markus

Why isn't this person chosen as the President if POTUS and the VP don't exist anymore ?

'cause what I have learned from reading all these post is that Speaker of the House becomes the President or was it VP if the President stop existing

Confused...then wait until my next post

Markus

[Rockstar]

Why isn't this person chosen as the President if POTUS and the VP don't exist anymore ?

'cause what I have learned from reading all these post is that Speaker of the House becomes the President or was it VP if the President stop existing

Confused...then wait until my next post

Markus

What was going through the minds of Congress when the law governing the line of succession was developed is a mystery to me. But it is what it is seems sound to me and should remain as is until they decide to change it. Keep in mind the President of the U.S. is not a king or the almighty ruler of our country. He is just the chief executive officer of one branch of government and also represents our country to others, presidents are a dime a dozen. His power is granted to him by the constitution and our representatives. So long as Congress and the Senate remain intact the big squeaky government wheel keeps turning with or without a president.

The original Constitution provides that if neither the President nor Vice President can serve, the Congress shall provide law stating who is next in line. Currently that law exists as 3 USC 19, a section of the U.S. Code. This law was established as part of the Presidential Succession Act of 1947. There, the following line of succession is provided:

Speaker of the House of Representatives
President Pro Tempore of the Senate
Secretary of State
Secretary of the Treasury
Secretary of Defense
Attorney General
Secretary of the Interior
Secretary of Agriculture
Secretary of Commerce
Secretary of Labor
Secretary of Health and Human Services
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Secretary of Transportation
Secretary of Energy
Secretary of Education
Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Secretary of Homeland Security

The only exception to the line provided in the law states that to ascend to the Presidency, the next person in line must be constitutionally eligible. Any person holding an office in the line of succession who, for example, is not a naturally-born citizen cannot become President. In this case, that person would be skipped and the next eligible person in the line would become President.

[mapuc]

Thank you Rockstar :Kaleun_Salute: Now I have learned something about the American politics and its law.

Markus

[MaDef]

Thank you Rockstar :Kaleun_Salute: Now I have learned something about the American politics and its law.

Markus

A little trivia for you, the 38th President (Gerald R. Ford) held both the position of Vice President (Dec 73' - Aug 74') and President ( Aug 74' - Jan 77') without ever running for either office. Congress voted him in as Vice President to replace Spiro Agnew (who resigned). And He took over as President when Nixon resigned 9 month later.

[Onkel Neal]

Which is a bit strange, i remember an audio tape back then being published which was "a bit" different, but seems it has meanwhile been deleted. Maybe for the better.


You know, I thought I remembered more incriminating details on audio too, thank you for saying that. Not sure where I heard it but yeah, I thought there was more Trump pressuring than the transcript there suggests.

[u crank]

Burying the Hunter Biden Laptop Story Was Journalistic Malpractice

-the information on the laptop that veterans of the national security establishment claimed was Russian disinformation was, in fact, exactly what reports published in the New York Post in October 2020 said they were: evidence of the Biden family's influence peddling abroad, that the senior Biden was aware of his son's activities and might well have profited from them.

https://www.newsweek.com/burying-hunter-biden-laptop-story-was-journalistic-malpractice-opinion-1691437

The Hunter Biden story isn't the only reason many Americans no longer trust the media or the intelligence establishment. But it is glaring proof that their skepticism is justified, and its result is a society even more bifurcated along political and cultural lines than it already was.

[Onkel Neal]

Good grief, if this was Trump the media would say he was "lying"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/biden-reporter-today-russia-sanctions-ukraine-b2043572.html

Journalist Christina Ruffini had asked how more sanctions would help in Ukraine when “deterrance didn’t work”.

“Let’s get something straight, you’d remember if you’ve covered me from the beginning, I did not say that, in fact, the sanctions would deter him. Sanctions never deter,” Mr Biden said. “You keep talking about that. Sanctions never deter.”

Mr Biden did, in fact, believe that “sanctions are intended to deter”, according to national security adviser Jake Sullivan, speaking on 11 February. “The President believes that sanctions are intended to deter. And in order for them to work — to deter, they have to be set up in a way where if Putin moves, then the costs are imposed,” Mr Sullivan said.



So, old Joe can't get it straight, huh?

I cannot understand some of his language, what does he mean, "the mainess of sanctions"?

Man, having a doddering, corrupt old hack as president is almost as bad as a narcissistic, babbling huckster. This country has problems. :wah:

[Buddahaid]

We could get a doddering, corrupt, narcissistic, old hack of a babbling huckster as president....:Kaleun_Wink:

[u crank]

We could get a doddering, corrupt, narcissistic, old hack of a babbling huckster as president....:Kaleun_Wink:

I don't see that the problem is the candidates who get elected President as bad as they might be. The problem is with the two political parties whose mechanisms can't seem to prevent these people from getting nominated. They're has to be younger, more qualified and more moderate people out there in both camps. Yet, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden?

[Dowly]

Which is a bit strange, i remember an audio tape back then being published which was "a bit" different, but seems it has meanwhile been deleted. Maybe for the better.

You know, I thought I remembered more incriminating details on audio too, thank you for saying that. Not sure where I heard it but yeah, I thought there was more Trump pressuring than the transcript there suggests.
I'm fairly sure there wasn't any audio of Trump/Zelensky call at any point. I think someone made a video reading the transcript, maybe that was posted here?

[Rockstar]

Remember back in the day when Hunter Biden’s laptop was a distraction, misinformation, Trump lies, MAGA conspiracies etc, etc? Seems it’s making a comeback and those media outlets which proclaimed the above are now saying it needs to be looked into.

I also read it might be highlighted in the next presidential election and investigated by Republicans.

It’s been one dog and pony show boondoggle after another since Clinton. Let the games begin. :yeah:

[Dowly]

Nothing's come out of it in 17 months. I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Rockstar]

Nothing's come out of it in 17 months. I wouldn't hold my breath.

It’s just beginning, give it time. :03:

[les green01]

don't forget Hunter lied on a background check then had his girlfriend get rid of the handgun which she threw in the trash at a gas station across the street from a school

[Reece]

We could get a doddering, corrupt, narcissistic, old hack of a babbling huckster as president....:Kaleun_Wink:
Hey, maybe Putin would be interested!! :hmmm: :D

[Skybird]

Trump and Russia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42493918

It would be high time that many Americnas giv eup certain illsusions they grew foind of, but I think more relasitoc is the assessment that these will not giv eup their recent life lies and instead, hand in hand with the extremiosts fot the opposing party, will do their best to deepn the polarization, helped by unscrupolous egocentric powermongers and career politicians.

The seed that got sown by Trump, promises to produce ever more excellent harvests.

[u crank]

That is a July 2019 article Skybird. A lot of pertinent facts have come to be known since then. Like the connection between Hillary Clinton, the DNC, Christopher Steele, Fusion GPS, the media and Russia. And that is what Special Counsel John Durham is looking into. More to come.

[Skybird]

Yes, its from 2019, thats why I posted it and thats why the BBC recently repeated it. Because it leaves plenty of wondering why it still is ignored and false statements about some of what it touches upon is still being spread.

The polarization has not deepened for no reason.

[u crank]

Yes, its from 2019, thats why I posted it and thats why the BBC recently repeated it. Because it leaves plenty of wondering why it still is ignored and false statements about some of what it touches upon is still being spread.

So why post an article that is inaccurate? So much more has come to be known. For example, we now know that the 'Russia collusion' scam was set in motion by Clinton to deflect from her email scandal. She was aided in this game by the Obama administration and people like James Comey. That is the real story but you won't find it on the BBC.

[Catfish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIFwhDIjoFA

[Skybird]

So why post an article that is inaccurate? So much more has come to be known. For example, we now know that the 'Russia collusion' scam was set in motion by Clinton to deflect from her email scandal. She was aided in this game by the Obama administration and people like James Comey. That is the real story but you won't find it on the BBC.
Some "realities" you only find inside people's heads. The BBC finds it difficult to dig them out from there.

[u crank]

Some "realities" you only find inside people's heads. The BBC finds it difficult to dig them out from there.

If you can find any inaccuracies in what I have posted let's hear it. Otherwise enjoy your own "realities".

[Skybird]

A speech is just a speech Iand I do nto giv emcubn for speeche,ls but still, some are better and some are worse. This one was defionetely one of the better ones.
Not bad for an old hack of a babbling huckster.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brIm2OmxuuM


Some politicians easily can be imagined who forever will be incapable to deliver a speech like this, and I do not mean the pronounciation, but the meaning of the words, and the spirit it breathes. Germany's Olaf Scholz or Grand Orange Party's Donald Trump just two examples.

[Rockstar]

A speech is just a speech Iand I do nto giv emcubn for speeche,ls but still, some are better and some are worse. This one was defionetely one of the better ones.
Not bad for an old hack of a babbling huckster.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brIm2OmxuuM


Some politicians easily can be imagined who forever will be incapable to deliver a speech like this, and I do not mean the pronounciation, but the meaning of the words, and the spirit it breathes. Germany's Olaf Scholz or Grand Orange Party's Donald Trump just two examples.

:har:

What do think of this speech?

I think it's very sad when Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia when you're supposed to supposed to be guarding against Russia and Germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia. So we're protecting Germany, we're protecting France, we're protecting all of these countries and numerous countries go out and make a pipeline deal with Russia where they're paying billions into the coughers of Russia.

So we're supposed to protect you against Russia but they're paying billions of dollars to Russia and I think that's very in inappropriate. And the former Chancellor of Germany is the head of the pipeline company that is supplying the gas. Ultimately, Germany will have almost 70% of their country controlled by Russia with natural gas. So you tell me, is that appropriate? I've been complaining about this from the time I got in. It should have never been allowed to happen. But Germany is totally controlled by Russia because they were getting from 60 to 70% of their energy from Russia in a new pipeline and you tell me if that is appropriate because I think it's not and I think it's a very bad thing for NATO. And I don't think it should have happened and I think we have to talk to Germany about that.

On top of that Germany is just paying a little over 1%. Whereas the United States in actual numbers is paying 4.2% of a much larger GDP. So I think that's inappropriate also. We're protecting Germany, we're protecting France, we're protecting everybody and yet we're paying a lot of money to protect. Now, this has been going on for decades. This has been brought up by other presidents but other presidents never did anything about it because I don't think they understood or just didn't want to get involved.

But I have to bring it up because I think it is very unfair to our country, it's very unfair to our taxpayers and I think that these countries have to step it up -- not over a 10 year period, they have to step it up immediately.

Germany is a very rich county. They talk about they can increase it a tiny bit by 2030. Well, they could increase it immediately tomorrow and have no problem. I don't think it is fair to the United States. so we're going to have to do something because we're not going to put up with it. We can't put up with it. And it's inappropriate. So we have to talk about the billions and billions that's being paid to the country that we're supposed to be protecting you against. Everybody's talking about it all over the world. They'll say wait a minute we're supposed to be protecting you from Russia but why are you paying billions of dollars to Russia for energy? Why are countries in NATO, namely Germany having a large percentage of their energy needs paid to Russia and taken care of by Russia?

Now, if you look at it, Germany is a captive of Russia because they got rid of their coal plants, they got rid of their nuclear plants. They're getting so much of the oil and gas from Russia. I think it's something NATO has to look at.

I think it is very inappropriate. You and I agree it's inappropriate. I don't know what you can do about it now but it certainly doesn't seem to make sense that they've paid billions of dollars to Russia and now we have to defend them against Russia.

FORMER WARSAW PACT MEMBERS experienced oppression of Moscow. It was they who sounded the alarm along the above speech by your favorite scapegoat. That Germany was a bunch double dealing financiers of the mess we find our selves in today. It’s not Biden, it’s not Trump, it’s not Poland or Ukraine that got us here. it’s Putin and the Germans who paid for it that got us here.

Before any replies read the speech.

I will admit nearly all European nations, the European Commission, and a sizeable portion of the German, Austrian, and Dutch publics oppose NS2. Stopping NS2 is not anti-European. Only certain Germans and their Putin lovin colleagues started this and it happened because you weren’t looking or didn’t care to look. And now the United States, U.K. and France and others have over 140,000 troops protecting your eastern flank because you dropped the ball and were more interested in cryin over mean tweets and orange hair. Don’t ever attempt to compare any of our presidents to your own leadership collaborating with Moscow and colluding with Putin

[Catfish]

^ yeah this is so unfair (whine)
One is a petty economical bill list, the other is a speech.

[Rockstar]

Yet here we are on the verge of nuclear war. There are and always have been alternatives to investing billions into Putin’s dream world. Nuclear, coal, electric, hydrogen, oil etc etc but some Germans prefer to spend billions to support Putin and unfortunately the majority unwittingly followed in the name of climate change and Fukushima. Now allied armies are staged once again to defend the blind even while they and others still piss and moan over headlines, internal party politics, mean tweets, orange hair and the new most idiotic argument injected into this situation to date, isolationists! :roll:

[Buddahaid]

Yet here we are on the verge of nuclear war. There are and always have been alternatives to investing billions into Putin’s dream world. Nuclear, coal, electric, hydrogen, oil etc etc but some Germans prefer to spend billions to support Putin and unfortunately the majority unwittingly followed in the name of climate change and Fukushima. Now allied armies are staged once again to defend the blind even while they and others still piss and moan over headlines, internal party politics, mean tweets, orange hair and the new most idiotic argument injected into this situation to date, isolationists! :roll:

You're welcome.

[u crank]

A speech is just a speech Iand I do nto giv emcubn for speeche,ls but still, some are better and some are worse. This one was defionetely one of the better ones.
Not bad for an old hack of a babbling huckster.

Some politicians easily can be imagined who forever will be incapable to deliver a speech like this, and I do not mean the pronounciation, but the meaning of the words, and the spirit it breathes.

Regime Change Biden Goes Nuts

Just when you thought that Washington couldn’t possibly concoct a worse foreign policy, President Joe Biden rose to the challenge—abetted by the Beltway uniparty. Democrats and Republicans alike seem to share the goal of putting America last.

https://supermacro.substack.com/p/regime-change-biden-goes-nuts?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&s=r

Why then does Biden think it makes sense to call in effect for Putin’s removal from power, trial, and lifelong detention or execution for war crimes? None of these things is remotely likely to happen and they make negotiation much more difficult.

Most Americans can grasp this concept even if the highly credentialed bobos running our foreign policy cannot. If you want to buy a used car, does it make sense to call up the salesman in advance and call him a scumbag, even if he is one?

Unlike our own politicians of both parties, they realize their national and economic security depend on inexpensive and secure energy. They also do not feel the need Washington seems to feel to let rich Europe off the hook again for skimping on its own defense. Why bail out the European Union, a grouping of wealthy nations with 400 million people and a $21 trillion economy that disdains Americans and the idea of America? Reinforcing such a moral hazard only makes sense if one is desperate to cover up a failure and try to preserve a discredited idea that is sinking beneath the waves—the fate of the postmodern, globalist dream.

[Skybird]

If Trump would have sait it, peope would cheer, and admire his courage and honour him for just talking straight, and that he gave Putin somethign to think about.



Biden, different to Trump, did not mean it beyond the moment. He slipped to a human error: "Look this Putin guy does this and this and this, all the crimes and all that brutality and all, that horror, I mean, can anyone seriously want to leave somebody like this in office (if he had the choice), eh? "



In life I had some disputes with this and that persons, and when we wer4e angry and the volumne went up I may have soimetimes even said "Grrrrr - Ich könnte dich umbringen!". If anyone now considers this to be evidence that I planned the assassination of somebody, I cannot help it.



I hate to imagine what Trump would have contributed to the mess of the past 4 weeks. Biden sits on a rich pillow ox experiences how the cold war game is beign played, and we are lucky that he knows that. Still, he got plenty of diplomatic stuff done, got pressure on the USSR2, reached an unprecedented level of unity, and overcame some stubborn oppsoition inEurope (Germany), he amde good use of the crisis, so to speak. We could really have much worse a US president in this crisis. I do not say he shakes the world, but all in all he got the balance well between pressuring stance, and what can prgamatically be acheived, and not letting it escalate into a war.



I would not take that as a natural thing. Imagine May or Johnson or Merkel or Trump in his seat - or better not! Its not for the faint of heart. I magine Scholz being not chancellor of Germany with the klimite dpowre and reach of that post, but being boss in the oval office - boah, better not!

[u crank]

If Trump would have sait it, peope would cheer, and admire his courage and honour him for just talking straight, and that he gave Putin somethign to think about.

Biden, different to Trump, did not mean it beyond the moment. He slipped to a human error: "Look this Putin guy does this and this and this, all the crimes and all that brutality and all, that horror, I mean, can anyone seriously want to leave somebody like this in office (if he had the choice), eh? "

It doesn't matter who said it. What matters is what was said. It is amazing to me that people come to this guys defense simply because he is not Orange Man Bad. Three times this week the White House staff has had to cleanup Biden's nonsense. The guy needs to stop talking. One can only imagine what Putin thinks of this idiot.

[mapuc]

I guess u crank is correct.

Had it been Trump who had said those words some of you would have gone berserk and written very long comments.

Markus

[les green01]

here i go and i'm sure i will make someone mad:under Trump secure southern border,unemployment was down to 3%(until the virus hit)good gas prices,donating his President pay sure had a mean tweet or two,decent price on everything stop donating millions to who why should my taxes go to some 3 rate country to take care of their people not my problem or America problem,donating masks and anti virus stuff to other countries again not my problem or America problem if other countries are boneheads and don't want to take care of their people that is on them not on me,students loans why should i pay for someone collage then drop the loan they knew what they was signing in for.for me i was better off under Trump than the bonehead in office now,next it is funny too log in here and read post slamming Trump for threating to withhold weapons from ukraine when their countries wasn't even doing that much and bending over for putin and reading their up to arms post after Putin attack Ukraine well you boys are kinda late for the party oh before i forget the CIA and special forces was training Ukraines under trump they only pull out month before the attack seem like that training getting use pretty good in bumping off Russian high ranks,am i a America first damn right i am take care of your own before someone else

[les green01]

I guess u crank is correct.

Had it been Trump who had said those words some of you would have gone berserk and written very long comments.

Markus

well said Markus and hitting the nail on the head

[Skybird]

It doesn't matter who said it. What matters is what was said. It is amazing to me that people come to this guys defense simply because he is not Orange Man Bad. Three times this week the White House staff has had to cleanup Biden's nonsense. The guy needs to stop talking. One can only imagine what Putin thinks of this idiot.
You are wrong again, in America these days it all matters who it is who says something. The same message told by two different guys can now meet completely different, even mutually excluding reactions from the crowd. Thats the sad state of things. Political party and camp warfare is the condition of American politics now. Total war, as far as domestic politics go. What uniforms of two fightign armies are in war, party affiliation is in US politics today.

[u crank]

You are wrong again, in America these days it all matters who it is who says something.

Well if that's your opinion so be it. I disagree. The President is the head of his Administration. What he says matters. When Biden's own WH staff has to constantly correct or say he didn't mean it there is clearly a communication problem. If Trump was doing it people would lose their minds so why are people defending Biden when he does it?

[Skybird]

Well if that's your opinion so be it. I disagree. The President is the head of his Administration. What he says matters. When Biden's own WH staff has to constantly correct or say he didn't mean it there is clearly a communication problem. If Trump was doing it people would lose their minds so why are people defending Biden when he does it?
And vice versa, as so often illustrated in past years.


Okay, enough fun was had from this. Im out of this round.

[August]

Rather than admit they were wrong the Biden Administration is dragging out the investigation while those officers are stuck behind a desk unable to do the jobs we are paying them to do.




Probe into Border Patrol agents still ongoing, 6 months after false ‘whipping’ claims

President Biden promised to make agents "pay"



The investigation into Border Patrol agents (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-patrol-agents-biden-backs-claims-whipping-promises-agents-pay) at the center of claims that they "whipped" Haitian migrants trying to illegally enter the United States is still ongoing, six months after the claims were made and quickly debunked.





https://www.foxnews.com/politics/probe-into-border-patrol-agents-still-ongoing-6-months-after-false-whipping-claims

[mapuc]

Sorry in advanced if I should have missed it.

In a twitter post, I read that they had found proof on John Bidens laptop that he had helped the Ukrainian building these secret biolabs

Every time I read stuff that smells like conspiracy my left toe start to itch. and manner did my left toe start to itch.

Markus

[Skybird]

Neue Zürcher Zeitung:


At the beginning of the Ukraine war, other politicians in the United States besides Trump were positive about Putin. In the meantime, they have become quiet, and the wind has changed among Republicans as well.

Even though the U.S. is farther removed from Ukraine than Switzerland is, the war is taking a prominent role in the American media - even in the smaller and local ones. The broad coverage and engaged commentary reflects a great deal of interest among the population. Presumably, the U.S. has not been as united as it is now during the Ukraine war for a long time. There have been some pro-Putin voices from the Republican camp, but they are fewer and quieter.


Putin, Selensky and Trump

The majority of politicians, as well as the public, are behind President Joe Biden. In a poll taken early in the war, 70 percent of Americans favored tough sanctions, even if they involve their own sacrifices, but opposed the involvement of their own military in the conflict. Calls for greater involvement, however, are growing louder. This refers primarily to the supply of weapons, but also to the question of a no-fly zone over Ukraine. Biden's poll numbers, which were very low at the beginning of the year, have risen somewhat. This is usually the case in wartime situations, but in this case it also has to do with the fact that Biden was able to forge a broad alliance against Moscow even before the first attacks.

Many Republicans, however, believe that Vladimir Putin would not have dared to attack another country during Trump's term in office. Trump himself regularly asserts the same. At the beginning of the war, he described Putin as clever and ingenious, while the Biden administration was weak. With the sanctions, America is only harming itself, he said.

The fact that Ukrainian President Volodimir Selensky is currently being hailed as a hero around the world now casts an even worse light on Trump's behavior in 2019, when he had demanded that the newly elected Selensky provide incriminating material about Biden's son Hunter in exchange for withholding arms shipments. The revelation of this alleged extortion led to the first impeachment proceedings against Trump.

Meanwhile, while Trump praises the Ukrainians' will to resist, not a critical word about Putin passes his lips, while at the same time emphasizing his supposedly tough stance toward the Russian president during his tenure.

Putin's useful idiots

Trump is getting some firing support from popular Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who said that Ukraine is not a democracy, but merely a puppet of America. Also speaking in Putin's favor - at least early in the war - was former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. "He is a very gifted statesman," he declared. "He was a KGB agent. He knows how to use power. We should respect that."

Republican Rep. Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina, the youngest member of Congress at age 26, posted a video March 10 saying, "Selenski is a crook. The Ukrainian government is incredibly corrupt, incredibly evil, and promotes 'woke' ideologies." The statements by Carlson, Pompeo, and Cawthorn are gratefully received and reproduced by Russian media.

Congressmen Matt Gaetz of Florida and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia also expressed positive views of Putin until recently. In the meantime, Taylor Greene has changed her position somewhat. She is against any aid to Ukraine because it only prolongs the war and thus the suffering. Moreover, she believes that independent Ukraine exists only because of Barack Obama. Or, to be more precise: because with his help the former government in Kiev was overthrown. Moreover, Biden is so involved in Ukraine only because of his son Hunter's business there.

Lauren Boebert, Congresswoman from Colorado, formulated a particularly absurd analogy on the occasion of the Russian invasion. Alluding to trucker protests against Corona measures in Canada, she said, "We have neighbors to the north who should be liberated, too." She thus portrayed Canada as a repressive country that would have to be liberated by occupation - like Ukraine, which Putin wants to "denazify."

"There is no room in this party for Putin apologists".

However, these are minority positions. There is a sense of relief across all parties that at this delicate moment, when a carelessness could lead to a nuclear escalation, the unpredictable Trump is no longer in power, but the level-headed Biden with his rich foreign policy experience. A sample of the spirit that would blow under Trump was given by the latter during a recent speech in New Orleans. He expressed the idea that American planes disguised with Chinese flags could be sent to bomb Russia. "Then they start fighting each other, and we sit back and watch."

Some analysts question whether the current front against Putin could also herald the end of its admirers like Trump. However, the fact that many Republicans are now also marking some distance toward Trump has less to do with moral principles than with opportunism. One example is the maneuvering of Trump's former Vice President Mike Pence. On March 4, at a Republican event, he said, "There's no room in this party for Putin apologists." That, of course, was aimed at Trump.

But just four days later, he opined in a Fox News interview, "Our time in office was the only time in the 21st century during which Putin didn't try to seize land and change borders by force - because he saw America's strength." Pence's team funded a commercial falsely claiming Biden's decision to stop the Keystone XL pipeline led to greater dependence on Russian oil and gas, giving Russia the green light to attack Ukraine. Pence apparently wants to position himself as a candidate for the election in two years. To do so, he must distance himself from Trump on the one hand, but at the same time he does not want to antagonize him.

If Putin's brutal war were to cause a lasting change in the wind and the Republican base were increasingly offended by Trump's admiration for autocrats, most of the party's politicians would probably also quickly drop the former president.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

[August]

(From Skybirds daily anti-Trump propaganda poast:


"The people are behind Biden".




Yeah almost 42% :haha:



https://i.imgur.com/4E1CFKg.jpg

[Buddahaid]

Donald Trump's 6 January call logs show seven-hour gap

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60799663


"This runs counter to accounts from several Republican members of Congress - including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Senators Mike Lee of Utah and Tommy Tuberville of Alabama - that they spoke with the president by phone that afternoon."

Why do I find this unsurprising?

[u crank]

Donald Trump's 6 January call logs show seven-hour gap

Worry not. Those seven hours are safely contained on Hunter Biden's laptop.

:D:D:D

[mapuc]

Donald Trump's 6 January call logs show seven-hour gap

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60799663


"This runs counter to accounts from several Republican members of Congress - including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Senators Mike Lee of Utah and Tommy Tuberville of Alabama - that they spoke with the president by phone that afternoon."

Why do I find this unsurprising?

There were two thing I found interesting in the article

First
It could be an indication that the president was communicating through unofficial channels, such as an aide's device or an undisclosed "burner" personal mobile phone.

If he has used his private mobile phone then the question must be...WHY??

Second
The gap may raise concerns that records of presidential contacts during key moments - as US Capitol police were in a melee with Trump supporters and Secret Service officers were evacuating Mr Pence from the Senate chamber - have been withheld or destroyed. If so, it could prompt accusations of a cover-up reminiscent of the one revealed in the 1973 Watergate investigation, when Oval Office audio recordings provided to congressional investigators contained 18-and-a-half minutes of missing audio.

If this should be the case, what can they do-He's not POTUS anymore. Or can they prosecute him in a civilian court ?

Markus

[August]

If this should be the case, what can they do-He's not POTUS anymore. Or can they prosecute him in a civilian court ?

Markus

Markus this is all about keeping him from making another run for the White House. They are worried he might win now that the shine is off the Biden apple so to speak.

[Buddahaid]

Markus this is all about keeping him from making another run for the White House. They are worried he might win now that the shine is off the Biden apple so to speak.

There is that, but there is also the stigma of what looks like an attempted self coup. Why so much effort to keep the commitee from finding out?

[mapuc]

Markus this is all about keeping him from making another run for the White House. They are worried he might win now that the shine is off the Biden apple so to speak.

We all have our convincing belief. I don't know any of your authorities I can however say-they don't care who runs for President-They only care that this person does it legally and haven't commit severe crime.
(I wanna believe that a person who has commit a severe crime can't become a President)

Markus

[Otto Harkaman]

Well looks like the FBI has lost Hunter Biden's laptop hard drive.

[August]

There is that, but there is also the stigma of what looks like an attempted self coup. Why so much effort to keep the commitee from finding out?

Because it's staffed by the same Democrat witch hunters who tried use false accusations, liars and anonymous witnesses to drive him out of politics twice already. I wouldn't cooperate with those flaming *******s either. Not one little bit.

Meanwhile people who are not charged with anything more than trespassing or disturbing the peace remain in jail without trial well over year later. Is the plan to keep those poor souls locked up in solitary confinement forever, or maybe until they crack and agree to sign prepared confessions implicating Trump?

I mean that's certainly what it looks like to me.

[Onkel Neal]

oh boy, now CNN is covering it. :o

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/hunter-biden-federal-investigation-heats-up/index.html

Biden has tried to turn a page, publishing a memoir and debuting his work as an artist with shows in Los Angeles and New York. But even apparent attempts to avoid controversy have backfired. The White House acknowledged it played a role in the arts sales, setting up a legal process to shield the identity of buyers of Hunter Biden pieces, for the stated purpose of ensuring that no one could curry favor with the President by buying his son's art. But critics noted that art sales and anonymity of buyers have long raised concerns about money laundering.

Sheesh, can't we Americans ditch these corrupt politicians?

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/220328164946-03-hunter-biden-obama-exlarge-169.jpg

[mapuc]

Now even CNN is covering it-For me it sounds like..if we don't write about it, it didn't happened.

Markus

[August]

We all have our convincing belief. I don't know any of your authorities I can however say-they don't care who runs for President-They only care that this person does it legally and haven't commit severe crime.

Markus

You can say what you want Markus but that definitely is what this is all about, same as the previous two impeachment attempts. Partisan driven witch hunts based on lies and falsehoods to eliminate a political rival.
Now they are attempting to turn what is at best a riot into some huge conspiracy. Meanwhile hundreds of people rot in jail without trial on minor charges over a year later.

As for a candidate having a criminal record that should make absolutely no difference. What what business is it of the government to deny the peoples right to choose their own representatives? This isn't government by the Pre-Approved.

[mapuc]

You can say what you want Markus but that definitely is what this is all about, same as the previous two impeachment attempts. Partisan driven witch hunts based on lies and falsehoods to eliminate a political rival.
Now they are attempting to turn what is at best a riot into some huge conspiracy. Meanwhile hundreds of people rot in jail without trial on minor charges over a year later.

As for a candidate having a criminal record that should make absolutely no difference. What what business is it of the government to deny the peoples right to choose their own representatives? This isn't government by the Pre-Approved.

I'm not saying that the DEM's didn't like Trump, I would rather say they hated him.

What I meant is your election machinery this doesn't care who want to be President-as long the person fulfil the demands-such as born in USA American citizen-Only negative thing from your election machinery is that it's human who count the votes. It's not a demand that these shall have neutral political mindset. I guess you have some kind of triple check of the votes and the counting

Markus

[August]

Only negative thing from your election machinery is that it's human who count the votes. It's not a demand that these shall have neutral political mindset. I guess you have some kind of triple check of the votes and the counting

Markus


Supervised humans counting hard copy ballots is a far more accurate and secure way of conducting an election than any computer counting system could ever be. Results of an election can be independently verified after the fact. That can't be done with electronic based systems.



Only problem with hard copy, if you want to call it one, is that it takes a little more time to tabulate but I'd rather have a result in a couple of days which can be trusted over an unverifiable result splashed on the TV screen right after the polls close.

[u crank]

Election Watchdog Fines Clinton Campaign For Lying About Steele Dossier In Finance Filings


https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/30/election-watchdog-fines-clinton-campaign-for-lying-about-steele-dossier-in-finance-filings/

The FEC said Hillary for America violated the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 — which requires political committees to disclose payments over $200 per year and notate the purpose of the funds properly — by falsely attributing the money used to orchestrate the Russian collusion hoax as “legal services” on finance filings.

As Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation revealed, Perkins Coie, the law firm hired by the Clinton campaign, paid Fusion GPS more than $1 million, $175,000 which was used to fund opposition research designed to undermine then-Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele to compile negative and false secondhand accounts designed to tie Trump to the Kremlin that were subsequently fed to corporate media reporters and government officials.

This coordinated effort by Clinton allies, some of whom have been indicted for lying to the FBI, to lie about their political enemies sparked the Obama administration’s efforts to spy on Trump and his campaign under knowingly false pretenses.

“Acting in concert, the Defendants maliciously conspired to weave a false narrative that their Republican opponent, Donald J. Trump, was colluding with a hostile foreign sovereignty. The actions taken in furtherance of their scheme — falsifying evidence, deceiving law enforcement, and exploiting access to highly-sensitive data sources — are so outrageous, subversive and incendiary that even the events of Watergate pale in comparison,” the complaint states.


Now that is political corruption on steroids.

[Skybird]

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/31/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-hunter-biden/index.html



Donald Trump is doing it again -- putting his personal goals and burning zeal for revenge above the national interest -- as he once more appeals (https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/29/politics/trump-putin-hunter-biden/index.html) for Russian President Vladimir Putin's political help in the midst of the brutality in Ukraine. Trump's call on the Kremlin strongman to dig up dirt on President Joe Biden is no surprise. He's called on Russia and China before to interfere in US elections to boost his chances and got impeached for trying to blackmail Ukraine to do the same.
But this may be the ex-President's most twisted and pathological attempt yet to corruptly advance his own political career ahead of a possible 2024 White House bid. His thinking seems to be clear. Putin might be raining atrocities on Ukrainian citizens, bombing hospitals, apartment blocks, razing entire cities and sending 4 million refugees west into Europe. But Trump seems willing to overlook all of that in service of his own perceived interests.
Not only is Trump seeking to cook up a self-serving conspiracy with a Russian President much of the world now regards as a war criminal. He's also asking an enemy of the United States, who has threatened nuclear war, to damage the American commander-in-chief who is leading the West in an effort to aid an innocent, invaded nation and to save democracy.


Dragons sit in their lairs and guard mountains of gold, Trumps sit in their lairs and guard mountains of other stuff.
https://media02.stockfood.com/largepreviews/MjE3ODYxMjQ1MQ==/70277821-Muellhaufen-in-einer-Muellsortierungsanlage-Hannover-Lahe-Niedersachsen-Deutschland.jpg

[mapuc]

Supervised humans counting hard copy ballots is a far more accurate and secure way of conducting an election than any computer counting system could ever be. Results of an election can be independently verified after the fact. That can't be done with electronic based systems.



Only problem with hard copy, if you want to call it one, is that it takes a little more time to tabulate but I'd rather have a result in a couple of days which can be trusted over an unverifiable result splashed on the TV screen right after the polls close.

There you have it Dave-It's only the DEM's and a certain percentage of the American people who don't wanna Trump to be the next president. The election machinery doesn't care who want to be a president-It only want the candidate to fulfil the the requirements.

If Trump decide to run..it will be up the American voters and not the politicians among the DEM's to decide if Trump shall be your next President - They will of course do their best to prevent this. They will do their best so Biden can win a second term.

Markus

[August]

The election machinery doesn't care who want to be a president-It only want the candidate to fulfill the the requirements


That depends on the type of machinery don't it? If it is being secretly manipulated, as is much easier with electronic voting and I'll throw absentee "analog" voting in there too, then it's actual requirements may be much different than a candidates published qualifications, at least when it comes to winning.

[mapuc]

That depends on the type of machinery don't it? If it is being secretly manipulated, as is much easier with electronic voting and I'll throw absentee "analog" voting in there too, then it's actual requirements may be much different than a candidates published qualifications, at least when it comes to winning.


I should have mentioned it
When I used the words Election machinery I meant all of it from A to Z. I don't what every thing around election is called, not even in Swed. Dan. or Ger.

It's a machinery who start when the opposition has found their Candidate.
And ends when a candidate has been elected and is in the White House 20th of Jan.

It's this I meant, The machinery doesn't care who wanna be President. Hope you understand now

Edit
It's not only the machine you use when you shall pick which candidate you want to be the President. I wanna tell you it's the entire election machinery
End edit

Markus

[u crank]

The New Authoritarians

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/new-authoritarians

After Trump’s election, many commentators expressed anxiety that his followers would plunge the country into far-right authoritarianism. Instead, it is the class of college-educated Democrats that now openly argues for the value of blind submission to authority and the elimination of personal freedoms.


Thus are woke professionals of all ages advancing evermore extreme positions to oust their competitors and vie for limited spots in the managerial elite. As these positions become more extreme, the people who hold them become more absolutist, cruel, and deeply undemocratic. In other words, they become everything we were once taught to fear from Trumpism.

[August]

I should have mentioned it
When I used the words Election machinery I meant all of it from A to Z. I don't what every thing around election is called, not even in Swed. Dan. or Ger.

It's a machinery who start when the opposition has found their Candidate.
And ends when a candidate has been elected and is in the White House 20th of Jan.

It's this I meant, The machinery doesn't care who wanna be President. Hope you understand now

Edit
It's not only the machine you use when you shall pick which candidate you want to be the President. I wanna tell you it's the entire election machinery
End edit

Markus


Yeah I understand Markus. What I am trying to explain to you is that you cannot consider such a mechanism separately from its operators. Saying the machinery doesn't care who runs it is like saying that the car which hits you doesn't care who it runs over. That might be technically true because cars, like election systems do not have feelings, but regardless it wouldn't have run you over in the first place if there had not been a person behind the wheel directing it.

So imo it's useless to talk about how the election machinery feels about the candidates that are running in an election. What is important is what the people who operate it feel about the candidates and what they are willing to do to make sure the right candidate (in their eyes) ends up the winner.

[mapuc]

Yeah I understand Markus. What I am trying to explain to you is that you cannot consider such a mechanism separately from its operators. Saying the machinery doesn't care who runs it is like saying that the car which hits you doesn't care who it runs over. That might be technically true because cars, like election systems do not have feelings, but regardless it wouldn't have run you over in the first place if there had not been a person behind the wheel directing it.

So imo it's useless to talk about how the election machinery feels about the candidates that are running in an election. What is important is what the people who operate it feel about the candidates and what they are willing to do to make sure the right candidate (in their eyes) ends up the winner.

I do not disagree with what you have said Dave
In the end it's the human who decide who shall be the President. Which I mentioned before.

Personally I don't care who you pick as your President-I only want the election to be true and fair.

Markus

[August]

I do not disagree with what you have said Dave
In the end it's the human who decide who shall be the President. Which I mentioned before.

Personally I don't care who you pick as your President-I only want the election to be true and fair.

Markus

Me too, well I do care who wins of course, but I also want it to be a true and fair election, one that I have some degree of confidence has been conducted that way.

In that light I also believe that the old fashioned hard copy paper ballot that is:

1, Secretly cast at an official polling station by a person whose eligibility to vote in the election has been confirmed.
2. counted by a human, who is being watched by both neutral and partisan observers as they do it.
3. then is placed in a sealed locked container and stored for possible recounting later by whoever may have an interest.

...is still the best and most secure voting system ever invented by man for ensuring truth and fairness in an election.

The second you break that strong chain of custody by digitizing any part of that process you vastly increase the chances of large scale fraud and worse you make it impossible to verify it later. The tracks are forever covered like electronic dust in the wind.

[Rockstar]

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/31/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-hunter-biden/index.html



Dragons sit in their lairs and guard mountains of gold, Trumps sit in their lairs and guard mountains of other stuff.
https://media02.stockfood.com/largepreviews/MjE3ODYxMjQ1MQ==/70277821-Muellhaufen-in-einer-Muellsortierungsanlage-Hannover-Lahe-Niedersachsen-Deutschland.jpg




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What did Ismay say why NATO existed? Wasn’t it to keep Germany down and Russians out? Now I understand who the REAL shifty two faces evil bastards are. Collaborating and colluding with Putin while distracting the world with irrelevant arguments about people who don’t matter. 15 years ago former Warsaw Pact members who lived under the totalitarianism of Moscow warned us of such things.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zelensky-s-scathing-speech-to-germany/ar-AAVbWFn

In the course of his speech, Zelensky repeatedly faulted German leaders for allowing Russia to expand its influence, and he compared the situation to the West’s promises to “never again” allow a situation such as the Holocaust.

“Every year, politicians say, ‘Never again,’ ” Zelensky said, according to CNN, invoking a war in which Germany was the aggressor. “Now, I see that these words are worthless. In Europe, a people is being destroyed.”


Ya but what about Trump? :roll:

[Skybird]

If you want to say I am agreeing with German politics, then you have red me wrong and on many occasions.



And while Germany made itself more depending on Russian gas, its not as if your own governments have not kind of snuggled up to Russia, too. Especially Trump, who hailed Russian leadership often, and even when the invasion already had started. He wanted and threatened to give up NATO, didnt he.
His attempt to destroy the constitutional order of eldction processes and to influence justice system would, if successful, send shockwaves of erosion through the whole West. That he constantly lies, liey more, and repeats his lies, is what it is: lying. That so many of you people in the US still believe them, do not mind for them, still support him - that is the real menace here. Trump only can appear strong because his followers are too weak. As I say and said many times before: Trump is just the symptom.

[Buddahaid]

Meanwhile…

Ya but what about Trump? :roll:

He's nobody in this fight.

[u crank]

Ya but what about Trump? :roll:

He's nobody in this fight.

The only thing more fascinating than the fascination with Trump is the fascination with those who have the fascination with Trump. Ah crap now I sound like Kamala.:O::O::O:

[Skybird]

It's not so much a fascination as an apprehension. Trump plunged the United States into the open outbreak of a systemic constitutional crisis that had already been smoldering before, he crashed the system so obviously that it could no longer be denied. The majority of the Republicans is still a Trump lobby organization - which will live on even without its figurehead Donald Trump. The mutual and thus all-state self-blockade of the two parties in the U.S. is a prime example of how right the former mayor of West Berlin and later German President Richard von Weizsäcker was when he said: "The political parties have made the state their prey." This is true not only in Germany. Practically every Western state, and beyond the West anyway, must feel described. Especially the USA.

[u crank]

It's not so much a fascination as an apprehension. Trump plunged the United States into the open outbreak of a systemic constitutional crisis that had already been smoldering before, he crashed the system so obviously that it could no longer be denied. The majority of the Republicans is still a Trump lobby organization - which will live on even without its figurehead Donald Trump. The mutual and thus all-state self-blockade of the two parties in the U.S. is a prime example of how right the former mayor of West Berlin and later German President Richard von Weizsäcker was when he said: "The political parties have made the state their prey." This is true not only in Germany. Practically every Western state, and beyond the West anyway, must feel described. Especially the USA.

Well I was trying to be funny but ok. Call it fascination or a distraction. Trump is not President and if he is again it won't be until Jan 20 2025. Meanwhile the current President is driving the clown car off a cliff. His approval/disapproval numbers have been under water since August of last year. His Presidency is failing and you are still talking about the last guy. I don't think you are paying attention or you are but just don't want to talk about it.:hmmm:

[les green01]

Biden must have went to the same school has Carter

[Skybird]

Well I was trying to be funny but ok. Call it fascination or a distraction. Trump is not President and if he is again it won't be until Jan 20 2025. Meanwhile the current President is driving the clown car off a cliff. His approval/disapproval numbers have been under water since August of last year. His Presidency is failing and you are still talking about the last guy. I don't think you are paying attention or you are but just don't want to talk about it.:hmmm:
Biden is what he is and pretty much what was to be expetec, but I said it before: he handles the Ukriane cirsisa better than was to be expected, and certainly better than Trump would have. Considering that Trump still is the most oliekly candiodate of the GOP for next predidfnetial race, it is justified to be concered. It would be his seocnd temr and thus he would not not have tol hold him back again at all, it can only get much worse than the foirst time. And the shockwaves of it is to be felt far beyond the national Americana borders - thats why us foreigners eye him closely, too. We must. Biden and your internal domestic polcies, ont he othe rhand, is of less interest and your internal national affair more or less, so all that picking and hacking I take note of, but do not further invest interest into. Its your business, nor ours.

You guys should not imply always that I am pro Biden. I am not. But compared to Trump I prefer him as the far lesser evil. And in some regards he performs better than I expected, so: credit where credit is due (giving that seems to be not possible in the extremely polarized political climate within the US anymore, I am aware of that, but as a foreigner I must not follow that exmaple myself, too). Domestic politics in the US seem to be run by a doctrine of "MAB": the parties' mutual assured blockading if not destruction, the national interest and pragmatic realites seem to not be relevant anymore. Further driven is this, beside Trumpists, by the ever faster happening ethnic change of the US population that changes the electorate's preferences and put Republican power claims at risk, and the more this happens, the more destructive the Republican rants become , and the leftier the left wing in the Democratic party starts pushing: action and reaction and counter-reaction and...

This increasing distance between the parties' power interests and the higher common interest of the people and national state reason can be observed in practically every Wetsenr nation nowadays, and each interporets this "topic" in its own individual colour and flavour. Its the reaosn why I am for banning all political parties alltogether and have only individual represenativies up for voting (in principle, there is of course more complexity to this topic). We still are primitive tribal barbars hopping arund a tribal totem in tact to the drumming bongos. If one wants to understand how oparty plltics work and what their relation is to their members, one only needs to study football fans and their reactions to losses and victories of their team, that teaches you all you need to know. Its primitive and archaic, and appeals to lower instincts and emotions.

No other national domestic policies have as far reaching consequences for other nations, than America's, and that is why they all keep watching the US closely. They must, because the US internal things touches upon other nations' vital and essential self interests. "If America coughs, all the world gets a cold."

And if you want to see how a national leader can realyl mess up the handling of the ukraine crisis, compare Biden to Germany's Olaf Scholz (or Holy Mother Merkel before). Then you immediately will adore Biden much more. Necessarily. ;)

[mapuc]

Well I was trying to be funny but ok. Call it fascination or a distraction. Trump is not President and if he is again it won't be until Jan 20 2025. Meanwhile the current President is driving the clown car off a cliff. His approval/disapproval numbers have been under water since August of last year. His Presidency is failing and you are still talking about the last guy. I don't think you are paying attention or you are but just don't want to talk about it.:hmmm:

I think it should be obvious by now-That Trump was so hated that a huge group of American, that they would gladly put their vote on a dog to President as long Trump didn't win.

Said otherwise Biden may suffer from certain psychological things-this doesn't matter Trump isn't in the White House anymore and that is what counts among this huge group of Americans and a huge percentage of people in the rest of the world.

Markus

[u crank]

You guys should not imply always that I am pro Biden. I am not. But compared to Trump I prefer him as the far lesser evil.

I disagree. In politics what matters is results. And in that regard Trump is miles ahead of Biden in every single category. The economy, Covid , energy independence, fuel prices, inflation, illegal immigration, domestic policies, etc. Trump was better in all those things. I'm no fan of Trump and I hope he goes away. That being said I don't believe for one minute that Trump is a danger to the country that his enemies portray him to be. To them he is the gift that keeps on giving but to their own peril. And because of that Joe Biden is President. And if you don't think an administration could get any more inept just wait. Kamala Harris is a heart beat or the 25th Amendment away from the big chair. Good grief. It is a clear indication that for career politicians failing up is the norm.

[mapuc]

Your President seems to have done a great job here what he wrote on Twitter

"Over the course of my presidency, our recovery has now created 7.9 million jobs—the most jobs created over the first 14 months of any presidency, in any term, ever. "

if this is true or not I can't say. I posted it because of your discussion about the former President and the one today.

Markus

[August]

I disagree. In politics what matters is results. And in that regard Trump is miles ahead of Biden in every single category. The economy, Covid , energy independence, fuel prices, inflation, illegal immigration, domestic policies, etc. Trump was better in all those things. I'm no fan of Trump and I hope he goes away. That being said I don't believe for one minute that Trump is a danger to the country that his enemies portray him to be. To them he is the gift that keeps on giving but to their own peril. And because of that Joe Biden is President. And if you don't think an administration could get any more inept just wait. Kamala Harris is a heart beat or the 25th Amendment away from the big chair. Good grief. It is a clear indication that for career politicians failing up is the norm.




Well said!

[Onkel Neal]

I disagree. In politics what matters is results. And in that regard Trump is miles ahead of Biden in every single category. The economy, Covid , energy independence, fuel prices, inflation, illegal immigration, domestic policies, etc. Trump was better in all those things. I'm no fan of Trump and I hope he goes away. That being said I don't believe for one minute that Trump is a danger to the country that his enemies portray him to be. To them he is the gift that keeps on giving but to their own peril. And because of that Joe Biden is President. And if you don't think an administration could get any more inept just wait. Kamala Harris is a heart beat or the 25th Amendment away from the big chair.



Or a criminal indictment. Hard to be as corrupt as Biden has been for so many years before it comes back to bite him.



“While we do not know all the evidence yet, there are credible reports of wire transfers in the millions, emails from the ‘laptop from hell’ of Hunter, and guys like Tony Bubulinski who credibly describe a kickback scheme with the now-sitting president of the US as a beneficiary,” Trusty said.

“When you see millions of dollars pouring into the hands of a reckless and unskilled man, you have to at least ask the question of ‘What did these foreign governments receive for these payments?’”

Yeah, really.

[Otto Harkaman]

Skybird it is not about Trump, its about how our institutions are so compromised and corrupt they couldn't stand for an "outsider" to the political swamp to be elected.

I laughed when the media made a big deal about Trump's mean tweets hahaha. People here are a-holes, and if your not an a-hole in America you will be flipping burgers or much worse for a living.

It's not "e publius uniums" but welcome to the big ripoff, keep one hand on your wallet and the other on your CCW. :shucks:

[Skybird]

Skybird it is not about Trump, its about how our institutions are so compromised and corrupt they couldn't stand for an "outsider" to the political swamp to be elected.

I laughed when the media made a big deal about Trump's mean tweets hahaha. People here are a-holes, and if your not an a-hole in America you will be flipping burgers or much worse for a living.

It's not "e publius uniums" but welcome to the big ripoff, keep one hand on your wallet and the other on your CCW. :shucks:
I repeatedly said over the past years that I see Trump less as a cause and more as a symptom (that feeds back on the cause, however).


Voters get what they deserve. Warning: that is a tricky statement. ;) :)

[ET2SN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT_RxFeUN3E

:hmmm:

[Buddahaid]

Only three Republicans voted yes. I'd love to hear why more didn't since she is better qualified than the sitting judges.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61026996

[u crank]

Only three Republicans voted yes. I'd love to hear why more didn't since she is better qualified than the sitting judges.


Their reasons would probably be the same as the Democrats who on October 26, 2020 voted against Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who would be just as qualified as Justice Brown Jackson. All 47 Democrat Senators voted against her. Any thoughts on that?

[Buddahaid]

Their reasons would probably be the same as the Democrats who on October 26, 2020 voted against Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who would be just as qualified as Justice Brown Jackson. All 47 Democrat Senators voted against her. Any thoughts on that?

Business as usual for today's political landscape and I'd love to here their reasons too, however, there remains a right leaning Court so an opportunity has been either missed or avoided in the Republican camp.

[Rockstar]

Business as usual for today's political landscape and I'd love to here their reasons too, however, there remains a right leaning Court so an opportunity has been either missed or avoided in the Republican camp.



The only way anyone can discover how a judge MAY vote is by actually reading past documented, decisions and opinions.

All of which can be found here https://www.supremecourt.gov/

[u crank]

Business as usual for today's political landscape and I'd love to here their reasons too, however, there remains a right leaning Court so an opportunity has been either missed or avoided in the Republican camp.

Well it is business as usual because SCOTUS appointments have little to do with merit. In Brown Jackson's case the person who appointed her, Joe Biden made it quite clear why he wanted her. It was based on race and gender. That's a matter of public record.

[Rockstar]

Nobody ever takes the time to read documents and opinions of the justices. If they did, they’d find they have nothing to with diversity and the skin color of the judges.

That rhetoric is reserved for the masses. Headlines sell papers.

Here’s two I randomly picked. Tell me, do they lean team D or team R?

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/143orig_1qm1.pdf

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/13-1428_1a7d.pdf

[MaDef]

Only three Republicans voted yes. I'd love to hear why more didn't since she is better qualified than the sitting judges.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61026996

The fact that Ketanji Jackson won't state her belief in whether individuals have inalienable rights or not as laid out in the founding documents should disqualify her as a Supreme Court Judge. The underlying purpose of the Supreme Court is to safeguard those rights. At this juncture, only time will tell whether She is "qualified" or Just another "Kamala Harris".

[Rockstar]

Well it is business as usual because SCOTUS appointments have little to do with merit. In Brown Jackson's case the person who appointed her, Joe Biden made it quite clear why he wanted her. It was based on race and gender. That's a matter of public record.

I do think candidates really are presented to Congress on the basis of their merits by their peers. I don’t think the SCOTUS is as the media puts it, filled with team Liberal or team Conservative. Reading their decisions they talk law and form opinions based on the law. Where things really get dumbed down to the lowest level possible is when politicians get in front of cameras and microphones and speak to the masses.

[Buddahaid]

Well it is business as usual because SCOTUS appointments have little to do with merit. In Brown Jackson's case the person who appointed her, Joe Biden made it quite clear why he wanted her. It was based on race and gender. That's a matter of public record.

So what? How does that disqualify her since they are all picked for one reason or another.

[u crank]

So what? How does that disqualify her since they are all picked for one reason or another.

Did I say it disqualified her? I said the reason Joe Biden picked her was because of her race and gender. And that probably was a political favor to Representative James E. Clyburn for saving Joe's bacon in the South Carolina primary.

[Buddahaid]

"Mitch McConnell-aligned super PAC backs Lisa Murkowski, setting up clash with pro-Trump candidate"

Oops, Trump is losing his grip on the GOP.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/09/politics/mitch-mcconnell-pac-backs-murkowski/index.html

[Rockstar]

"Mitch McConnell-aligned super PAC backs Lisa Murkowski, setting up clash with pro-Trump candidate"

Oops, Trump is losing his grip on the GOP.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/09/politics/mitch-mcconnell-pac-backs-murkowski/index.html

Losing his grip huh? :har: Have you ever looked at the official GOP website? There’s no mention of Trump.
He’s living rent free in y0ur mind

[les green01]

"Mitch McConnell-aligned super PAC backs Lisa Murkowski, setting up clash with pro-Trump candidate"

Oops, Trump is losing his grip on the GOP.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/09/politics/mitch-mcconnell-pac-backs-murkowski/index.html

best thing for GOP 2024 is for Trump not to run but between Trump/Biden/Harris I would have to vote for him again but i do think his mouth lost him the last election but since 2000 both sides been pulling the vote recount they cheated crap no one like to lose but handle it with grace and class

[Gorpet]

best thing for GOP 2024 is for Trump not to run but between Trump/Biden/Harris I would have to vote for him again but i do think his mouth lost him the last election but since 2000 both sides been pulling the vote recount they cheated crap no one like to lose but handle it with grace and class

Les.Were going for a 1 party rule in this country. And at my age i could not be more ecstatic.How many years were we on Bull**** train, Listening to the same Politicians when we were in our 20's .And they were young Politicians and they were going to Change the World but the 20's turned into 30's yes those same Politician's started becoming wealthy.
And then they said we are working night and day to keep the promises it's the other party that landlocks us.Put us back in and we will work even harder.Now they have had a few divorces and joe taxpayer pays for their Indiscretions heading into their 50's an 60's. But by now we have learned .Their trade is lying and deception.They can never walk back down a cobbled pathway they never really walked up to begin with.

[Gorpet]

best thing for GOP 2024 is for Trump not to run but between Trump/Biden/Harris I would have to vote for him again but i do think his mouth lost him the last election but since 2000 both sides been pulling the vote recount they cheated crap no one like to lose but handle it with grace and class

I want the Socialist to win,win and win you know i will die in the next 10 years. And what i want is the Woke Youth to get exactly what is coming to them. Especially the Caucasoid.Les this country is headed to one party rule,Their gambling again in another war, And the Smartest of the ruling class yes they will start WW3 so their offspring can build back better,

[Buddahaid]

I want the Socialist to win,win and win you know i will die in the next 10 years. And what i want is the Woke Youth to get exactly what is coming to them. Especially the Caucasoid.Les this country is headed to one party rule,Their gambling again in another war, And the Smartest of the ruling class yes they will start WW3 so their offspring can build back better,

Isn't it funny how that is the way the majority of Americans felt about the authoritarianism the attempted self-coup by Trump represented.

[Skybird]

If you vote, you have no right to complain. Preaching this since years.

https://mises.org/wire/if-you-vote-you-have-no-right-complain

"Most citizens are not doing us any favor by voting. Asking everyone to vote is like asking everyone to litter."

[les green01]

I want the Socialist to win,win and win you know i will die in the next 10 years. And what i want is the Woke Youth to get exactly what is coming to them. Especially the Caucasoid.Les this country is headed to one party rule,Their gambling again in another war, And the Smartest of the ruling class yes they will start WW3 so their offspring can build back better,
You might want to see socialism but not me can't stand what we've have now and theirs threats of revoking the bill of rights especially the 2and amendment before I let anything like that happen I'll grab the riffles and March and I'm won't be the only one

[Skybird]

Another new old chapter in the endless political soap called "Gerrymandering or How To Corrupt Majority Voting Systems And Turn The Meaning Of Democracy Upside Down".



It does not speak for the electorate that it allows this to be done again and again and again - instead of chasing the offenders with eggs and stone throws to the beach and further into the sea.



My name for this is very simple: election rigging.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/desantis-draws-congressional-map-dramatically-expanding-gops-edge-flor-rcna24317

[Threadfin]

My name for this is very simple: election rigging.




What do you call it when it is a Democrat state? Or is it only rigging when Florida does it?

Where's your comment about New York's gerrymandering a few weeks ago? Can you link it to me?

[Threadfin]

While you look for your cries of election rigging over New York's gerrymandering, I'll help you out.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/judge-rejects-ny-redistricting-plan-as-unconstitutional-orders-new-maps-drawn/3625499/

This was so blatantly partisan that a judge ruled it unconstitutional.

I'm sure you would cry rigged! if you knew about it right? But I bet it didn't make the WaPo.


I'm mistaken, it is in the Washington Post


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/31/new-york-judge-strikes-down-democratic-drawn-maps/


My concern here isn't whether you believe this is election rigging, you can hold whatever position you choose. Myaim is to point out the hypocrisy of only complaining when it suits you. If you posted about New York then I will stand corrected.

[Skybird]

I complained about gerrymandering already in the Trump, Obama and Bush years.

Some of you guys really must stop to imply or imagine that truth is defined only along party borders.

Gerrymandering is being tried iny many other "democracies" as well, but as far as I can tell by far not on this excessive level than is the case in the US. And in combination with the unique voting system in the US it causes even worse consequences.

Sometimes I think the whole voting system in the US was designed from beginning on with the idea of manipulating elections on mind.

But then, I have a problem with the whole idea of general elections. I am with Jason Brennan on this. IMHO one should not call it voting but vommiting system. Its like a defect toilet. The bad stuff never flushes away but swims on top and then spills over. Still, people stand in line to take a deep breath and smell of the mess, and then compain afterwards.



Who casts a vote, has no right to complain, that simple it is. He gave his legitimasing and his consent for what follows in lie and in deed.

[Threadfin]

All that matter is if it is legal within the current laws. As in the New York case if it isn't it will be struck down.

If you don't like the law change the law. Complaining that it is election rigging is missing the point.

I'd be more concerned that people are worried the new map 'carves up a black district'. Say what?

Black voters are not a monolith, although one party treats them that way.

[Skybird]

All that matter is if it is legal within the current laws. As in the New York case if it isn't it will be struck down.
Russia has "current laws" defining what is legal and what not, too. Chin a has them. North Korea and Iran. Even the Third Reich had "current laws".

Laws can not only get abused, and they can not only be injust by design - they can even command for injustice becoming a civil and official duty. They cna be made to allow the state abuse and state-done violence and corruption.

If you don't like the law change the law. Complaining that it is election rigging is missing the point.
No, it is exactly the point. The laws often are at the very core of the problem, and have been intentionally designed to allow such abuse.

However.

[Skybird]

Bets still can be placed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trumps-comment-health-watershed-moment-2024-election-rcna24298

[August]

Who casts a vote, has no right to complain, that simple it is. He gave his legitimasing and his consent for what follows in lie and in deed.



Harsh critics are often talented, intelligent, and productive people. Unfortunately, they have a flaw that compels them to disparage others – almost, at times, as though they are diagnosing an illness in need of eradication. It seems they’re living according to the famous quip by Mark Twain: “Nothing so needs reforming as other people’s habits.”
In the language of the self-help and recovery movements, these folks are often suffering from a disorder known as, “If You Spot It, You Got It [IYSIYGI].”

It works like this: You notice that colleague X has what is, in your mind, is an affliction. You then take it upon yourself to castigate him for his affliction — irrespective of whether or not it impairs his on-the-job performance or has a negative effect on group morale.
What makes this dynamic so ugly is that unbeknownst to the person under attack, the critic is being driven to criticize by a repressed-and-intolerable feeling that he’s “got” what he deplores in others.[/quote]


Sound familiar?




https://hbr.org/2014/03/why-are-some-people-so-critical

[Skybird]

Like in Europe, son in the US: inflation galopping. Just that the plundering morons at the ECB sleepwalk even longer than those at the FED.

Neue Zürcher Zeitung:


Inflation is slipping away from the USA. Now interest rates must rise faster

America's central bank has screwed up. It took up the fight against inflation too late and far too hesitantly. Now the pace must be stepped up, even at the price of a recession.

Jerome Powell is becoming increasingly uncomfortable. The head of the U.S. Federal Reserve has to watch inflation in the U.S. climb ever higher, to 8.5 percent by now. Powell has therefore indicated that he will increase the pace of interest rate hikes. Instead of the usual triple steps of 0.25 percentage points, the key interest rate is likely to be raised by 0.5 percentage points at the next monetary policy meeting. Such a step is "on the table," Powell said on Thursday.

On the stock markets, where one has become accustomed to the cheap money, the announcement comes admittedly badly. But more decisiveness in the fight against inflation is called for. In the U.S., a sense of loss of control is spreading. Prices, unimpressed by the central bank's actions so far, seem to be rising unchecked. Public discontent is growing. A survey shows that almost one in five Americans considers inflation to be the country's most pressing problem.

It need not - and should not - have come to this. To partially relieve the central bank, it must be admitted that higher interest rates cannot solve supply chain problems; nor can monetary policy solve supply shortages of energy goods or food. But the monetary authorities are by no means innocent of the price surge. They have effective instruments at their disposal to curb demand - provided they are willing to use them.

Powell and his team lacked this willingness. Their policy has not smoothed out the economic cycle, but intensified it. The Biden administration's billion-dollar stimulus policy was flanked by a similarly generous monetary policy. The result of this juxtaposition was a massive overheating of the economy. For example, an analysis by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis shows that monetary policy in the fourth quarter of 2021, when the threat of inflation was already abundantly clear, was more stimulative than at any time in nearly 50 years.

In other words: At a time when the government was letting a veritable rain of money rain down on the U.S., consumer demand was rising sharply thanks to easing Corona measures, companies were desperate for workers and prices and wages were rising sharply, the central bank was giving the economy an additional boost. The consequences of this procyclical policy can be seen today: a rapid loss of purchasing power of money and a tarnished credibility of the monetary guardians.

Smart monetary policy takes small steps and avoids shock-like jumps. But this requires looking ahead and addressing problems as they begin to emerge. In the recent past, however, America's central bank has never been able to bring itself to take such preventive measures. This is now taking its toll. Because the bank can no longer afford the ideal of a gradual approach, but must accelerate the pace; this is made clear by Powell's speech.

America's central bank is in a critical phase. It must prevent inflation from taking on a life of its own, penetrating all the cracks in the economy and causing the wage-price spiral to get out of control. The longer inflation remains at a high level, the greater the danger of such a decoupling. Interest rates must therefore rise rapidly to a level that no longer has a stimulating effect. If this were to trigger a recession, it would be a price we would have to be prepared to pay. After all, there are no alternatives to controlling inflation.
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Reader's comment by T. W.

Historically, inflation today would be at the level of 40 years ago. It is more correct to say that the interest rate on credit balances was always higher than inflation back then, too. Today, with 8% inflation, the saver has a penalty interest rate of -0.5%. His taxed savings are now reduced annually by almost 10%. This is new and rather reminiscent of Weimar conditions with their social explosives and disincentives. This development was and still is crystal clear predictable. Just because self-proclaimed modern economists and money theorists declared inflation to be a relic of bygone eras only two years ago, unfortunately nothing changes in mathematics, physics and human sociology. In the end, we will always get the receipt for our life's lies. Because the truth does not simply go away, if we lie to ourselves smilingly the world. The sudden onset of inflation should be a wake-up call to re-examine many other principles of life and society that have been turned upside down in the recent past, before our livelihood completely blows up in our face in the medium term.

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[les green01]

I complained about gerrymandering already in the Trump, Obama and Bush years.

Some of you guys really must stop to imply or imagine that truth is defined only along party borders.

Gerrymandering is being tried iny many other "democracies" as well, but as far as I can tell by far not on this excessive level than is the case in the US. And in combination with the unique voting system in the US it causes even worse consequences.

Sometimes I think the whole voting system in the US was designed from beginning on with the idea of manipulating elections on mind.

But then, I have a problem with the whole idea of general elections. I am with Jason Brennan on this. IMHO one should not call it voting but vommiting system. Its like a defect toilet. The bad stuff never flushes away but swims on top and then spills over. Still, people stand in line to take a deep breath and smell of the mess, and then compain afterwards.



Who casts a vote, has no right to complain, that simple it is. He gave his legitimasing and his consent for what follows in lie and in deed.

person who don't vote don't have the right to gripe and moan the person i vote for might not win as long as my vote is counted but then i guess we had a king once best thing we did was send him packing the consitution is beautiful written by guys who was thinking way ahead even conviction of states where enough states does that it voids the feds congress,president can't do nothing

[Skybird]

Wrong. Those who vote have no right to complain. They voted for what they legitimised to happen. And they should and could have known what it was they were getting.



Read Jason Brennan, "Against Democracy". Heck, I posted about him already many years ago. His diagnosis is, like woht Hans-Herrmann Hoppe, spot on, and irresistable. Its his alternative that he offers where I - like with Hoppe - I havbe my doubts that it nis so realistic and possible. Both writers excel in diagnosing and putting the fingers into the wounds that should be so absolutely obvious by now - but for many people still are not: I wonder why, I dont get it.

[mapuc]

I haven't been voting since 2002 and I do not moan- Only thing I do is pointing fingers at those who has voted and are now moaning and complaining.

Markus

[les green01]

Wrong. Those who vote have no right to complain. They voted for what they legitimised to happen. And they should and could have known what it was they were getting.



Read Jason Brennan, "Against Democracy". Heck, I posted about him already many years ago. His diagnosis is, like woht Hans-Herrmann Hoppe, spot on, and irresistable. Its his alternative that he offers where I - like with Hoppe - I havbe my doubts that it nis so realistic and possible. Both writers excel in diagnosing and putting the fingers into the wounds that should be so absolutely obvious by now - but for many people still are not: I wonder why, I dont get it.

guess we are going have to disagree i was raise my voice is my vote tell you one thing i'm not bowing down to some king or a dicator or being told i got to do this or that or work a certain job or whatever or live my life a certain way most us politicians have their heads up their backsides that a fact

[Buddahaid]

I'm OK with that, it's when they get their heads up my backside I get upset.

[Reece]

I don't blame you, would be rather kinky not to mention painful, however most politicians can kiss my ass!! :yep:

[Skybird]

guess we are going have to disagree i was raise my voice is my vote tell you one thing i'm not bowing down to some king or a dicator or being told i got to do this or that or work a certain job or whatever or live my life a certain way most us politicians have their heads up their backsides that a fact
I have been there before, search for "Brennan" in general topics, the old US politics thread until 2020, now locked.

Nowhere I said or implied you should live according to a dictator's will. My - and Brennan's and Hoppe's - argument is that the holy grail of "democracy" - elections - are offering illusory promises only, and do not keep what they promise. That participating in this only provides this corrupted system an alibi to carry on with its corrupted ways, consisting of always spilling the members of the most unscrupulous and unsuited caste into positions of power at the top. We get thus governed by scum, no matter how we voted. Most voters have no deep understanding of the many topics politicis have to deal with, have no deep-rooting understanding of economics, finances, and how one thing is interconnected with many others things and thus when getting changed could ruin so much more beyond the initial scope. How is it to be seen as reasonable then that clueless people are allowed to bring imposters and incompetenmt dillettantees into power?

Again, by diagnosis, Hoppe and Brennan are irresistable and 100% on the marks. They take no prisoners, and rightly so. Their offered alternatives, however, are what leaves me doubting that they could really work. Hoppe wants a so-called private rights society, Brennan an epistocracy. Both do not convince me, both have their inherent weaknesses. Human fault and human evil will always exploit even small design mistakes to the max. I admit I have not yet imagiend a solution. But I absolutely abstaion form cpnclduign that dmeicracy is the smallest of the evils. It isn't. Its the same evil like the others, just with chocolate coating and candyfloss on it.

Of one thing I am certain: a state is not good per se, and the more state there is, the worst things are for the indioviodual, liberty in generla, self-responsibility, self-reliance. Also, any state structure, no matter the ideological orientation, and so even democracy in modern or in Ancient Greek understanding, will allways from day one on shift more and more towards a totalitarian regime and tyranny aiming at controlling the individual in the name of the state-controlled and -defined collective. Even - and especially! - democracy.

So when i or Brennan say "Against democracy", I do not imply or wish for a dictatorship instead. Nor do I say people should not be allowed to think on politics when I say "Political parties should be prohibited, all of them". I am serious. Parties always put their own power interests - and sooner or later: personal conspiracies - over state reason and the common good. Always, without expeption. You see it in all glorious clarity in the Polarized States of America, and you see it in all European states and the EU, without expection. This is what the German former federla president Richard von Weizsäcker meant when he said: "Die politischen Parteien haben sich den Staat zur Beute gemacht" (The political parties have made the state their prey). They do not serve the state or the common good anymore. They exclusively exist to protect power interests of individual "alpha actors", and ideological camps.

This can be known by everybody, and I demand everybody to have realised this if he or she thinks about to terrorise the common good with their unqualified but oh so precious voting ballot. You should and can know that this is what you get when you vote, and nothing else than this. Therefore: nobody legitimising these crooked ways by accepting to play by the system's rules has no right to complain and to criticise. He legitimised the crooked ways by him obeying to them. An in evtiable precnditon of the majoprity vote to serve the common good would be transparency, altruiosm, reaosnability. Most people instead vote by habit. Family tradition. Changing vogue. They better buy a ticket and have a good time in the movies, that way they at leats do not harm the others.

There is an inner contradiciton that possibly is impossible to solve.

Those rejecting to express that legitimization by voting are the ones to whom something is done against their expressed will. So they have any right you can have to complain. Because you either dont vote for laziness or - as I do - due to concern and the above mentioned arguments. You do not just "not care", you make a decision and express your political opinion by not voting. You make a deliberate choice - and that choice is you do not accept the system playing foul against you. In case of the latter, it is an expression of your political thinking and wish. Thats why I insist on that voting results get standardized and relativised by including the non-voters in the final results. All too often the "overwhelming" election victory of somebody turns out to look as what it really is: that this somebody only represents a small minority of the elecatorate in fact, and hardly can claim to speak "for us all".

For sake of completeness I again remind of the simply fact that origianlly, according to the Ancient Greek standards, democracy has little if nothing to do with modern democracy, and that the Greek democracy originally is a feudal state form.

I refer to this old thread of mine which has so very many terirble typing faults...
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=159065
Some principles listed there that are a must in order to have a kind of society that keeps what modern states promised but do not hold. We are too many. Size of social systems has a lot to do with transparency, freedoms - the the pratical possibility of these to even show. Or getting assassinated.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Against-Democracy-Jason-Brennan/dp/0691178496/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1551110364&sr=8-1&keywords=jason+brennan

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Democracy-Economics-Politics-Perspectives-Democratic/dp/0765808684/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1WIA6IAD53A6A&keywords=hoppe+democracy&qid=1650800400&sprefix=hoppe+democracy%2Caps%2C62&sr=8-1


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Servile-Mind-Democracy-Erodes-Moral/dp/1594036365/ref=sr_1_1?crid=H439Z7XFGTSJ&keywords=kenneth+minogue+the+servile+mind&qid=1650802747&sprefix=kenneth+minogue+the+servile+mind%2Caps%2C6 3&sr=8-1


Both the US and the EU are textbook exmaples of how things erode from within, and in parts are wanted by elites to erode former standards for their own party power interests. Putin, Islam, corona, debt crisis, currency crisis all serve as catalysts to speed that erosion up. Wokism, polticla corretcness, overboarding climate protest demanding unrealistic extremes to tackle things, are other factors.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Auf-dem-Weg-ins-Imperium/dp/3944305450/ref=sr_1_12?crid=PCGBR6TB5JUM&keywords=david+engels&qid=1650800464&sprefix=david+engels%2Caps%2C68&sr=8-12

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d%C3%A9clin-europ%C3%A9enne-R%C3%A9publique-analogies-historiques/dp/2810008507/ref=sr_1_11?crid=PCGBR6TB5JUM&keywords=david+engels&qid=1650800538&sprefix=david+engels%2Caps%2C68&sr=8-11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSA7mAHolAw

[Buddahaid]

Brilliant Abbott. All he demonstrated is what a complete idiot he is!
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/20/1093729789/texas-border-bridge-order-cost-billions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs

[Rockstar]

Brilliant Abbott. All he demonstrated is what a complete idiot he is!
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/20/1093729789/texas-border-bridge-order-cost-billions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nauLgZISozs

My understanding based on what I read: The governor ordered troopers to thoroughly inspect every commercial truck coming from Mexico in what he described as an effort to stop illegal drugs and migrants from being smuggled into Texas.

So, it seems to appear commercial trucking may not be a primary route. But we thinkers know for a fact illegal immigration AND narcotics are being smuggled across our nations southern border. How do the simple minded idiots on the other side of the political spectrum suggest we stop or slow it?

Do tell

[Buddahaid]

This cost Texas 4.23 billion dollars and was going to be failure from the start.

"Abbott had touted his April 6 order as a crackdown on drug smuggling and human trafficking. But Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller, who like Abbott is a Republican, says the inspections did "nothing to stop the flow of illegal immigration or illegal drugs. I mean, absolutely zero."

"Texas governor repeals immigration order that caused border crossing gridlock
That's because Abbott's inspections looked only at basic vehicle safety, such as the trucks' tires and brakes and lights — not their contents, Miller told NPR's Morning Edition."

"The governor's people have no authority to open the trucks," Miller said. Instead, he said, every truck undergoes inspections by federal and state agricultural agencies, as well as Customs and Border Protection. Those inspectors use X-ray machines, drug-sniffing dogs and other measures to ensure the cargo is legitimate, Miller added."

[Rockstar]

This cost Texas 4.23 billion dollars and was going to be failure from the start.

"Abbott had touted his April 6 order as a crackdown on drug smuggling and human trafficking. But Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller, who like Abbott is a Republican, says the inspections did "nothing to stop the flow of illegal immigration or illegal drugs. I mean, absolutely zero."

"Texas governor repeals immigration order that caused border crossing gridlock
That's because Abbott's inspections looked only at basic vehicle safety, such as the trucks' tires and brakes and lights — not their contents, Miller told NPR's Morning Edition."

"The governor's people have no authority to open the trucks," Miller said. Instead, he said, every truck undergoes inspections by federal and state agricultural agencies, as well as Customs and Border Protection. Those inspectors use X-ray machines, drug-sniffing dogs and other measures to ensure the cargo is legitimate, Miller added."

…Abbott's inspections looked only at basic vehicle safety, such as the trucks' tires and brakes and lights — not their contents


So whats your argument, are you reading anything you post? Is it, how Abbott is more concerned about vehicle safety or illegal immigrants and narcotics? Vehicle safety, illegal immigration and importation drugs are everyone’s concern. How would you address these issues, or do you think such actions by the State are fruitless? What would you do?

[Buddahaid]

I would let the Feds do their job and not waste money on a stunt when Texas needs it for better uses such as improving their power grid. But let me play your game, what would you do?

[Rockstar]

I believe the States have the right to protect their own borders and enforce all applicable state laws within it. Texas governor directed Troopers to conduct “enhanced safety inspections”

Because guess what cupcake, the feds do not enforce state highway safety laws. Evident by the report that in 8 days Texas State Troopers inspected 4,100 trucks and took 850 unsafe vehicles and drivers off the Texas roads before they caused an accident or killed someone. That’s what the state of Texas was doing after the Feds did their job.

Which if you bothered to read the actual orders to his troopers instead of stupid headlines written by the real brainless idiots. Here’s the meat and potatoes of the order:


Dear Colonel McCraw:
As you have explained, the cartels that smuggle illicit contraband and people across our southern border do not care about the condition of the vehicles they send into Texas any more than they care who overdoses from the deadly fentanyl on board. In response to this threat, which is projected to grow in the coming months, I hereby direct the Department of Public Safety (DPS) to conduct enhanced safety inspections of vehicles as they cross international ports of entry into Texas. These inspections should begin immediately to help ensure that Texans are not endangered by unsafe vehicles and their unsafe drivers.
Thank you for serving the great State of Texas, and for leading the brave men and women of DPS who work tirelessly to protect us all.

IMO they did their job making Texas highways a little safer.

I think your argument what these inspections were about is absolutely ridiculous and so far off point it’s not worth continuing.

[Buddahaid]

Thank you butterfly.

[August]

I would let the Feds do their job and not waste money on a stunt when Texas needs it for better uses such as improving their power grid. But let me play your game, what would you do?


Except the feds aren't doing their job. All they do is waste money.

[Buddahaid]

Except the feds aren't doing their job. All they do is waste money.

Isn't that just what Abbott did with that idiotic inspection that never was going to find anything from the start? Isn't that what he's doing with Operation Lone Star which while at least doing something is being justified with significantly padded claims while abusing the National Guardsmen?

[em2nought]

2000 MULES

[Buddahaid]

2000 MULES

2000 Mules for Sister Sarah?

[August]

Isn't that just what Abbott did with that idiotic inspection that never was going to find anything from the start? Isn't that what he's doing with Operation Lone Star which while at least doing something is being justified with significantly padded claims while abusing the National Guardsmen?


There would be no need for any of it if the Feds did their job in the first place.

[em2nought]

2000 Mules for Sister Sarah?

Don't worry, none of them will make the mistake of carrying their cell phones with them when they do their dirty deeds in 2024. :03:

https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/04/29/film-2000-mules-offers-vivid-proof-of-voter-fraud/

[Buddahaid]

It seems to me that with all the political interest in proving fraud there would have been some legal action that would have stuck by now. All we get are claims and statements by the losing side.

[August]

It seems to me that with all the political interest in proving fraud there would have been some legal action that would have stuck by now. All we get are claims and statements by the losing side.


Seems to me that if the Biden administration intended to do their job the southern border would not be awash with illegal aliens.

[Catfish]

Wasn't there someone who promised to close the borders, and make Mexico pay for it?
But then maybe all illegal aliens should leave.. from 1600 AD on.
Very thin ice, i know :D

[Skybird]

Drip... drip... drip...


Assume for a moment that this draft opinion becomes the law of the land. In an instant - because of statutes already on the books and "trigger" laws designed for such an occasion - abortion would be illegal in 22 states.

The legality of the procedure would become a vicious political battleground in the midst of an election year.

This is the significance of what may be unfolding in the Supreme Court.

Draft opinions, however, are just that - drafts. And there have been accounts of justices shifting their views as the opinion-drafting process unfolds within the cloistered court chambers. This unprecedented leak short-circuits all that.

For most of US history, the Supreme Court has operated like Mount Olympus, handing down opinions from on high. That opacity has been shattered perhaps for good, as the leaking spreads.

What it will mean for the legitimacy of the judicial process in the US remains to be seen, but within the institution itself it seems safe to assume that all trust between the judges, a collegial group once referred to as "the brethren", is gone.

In an era when political norms have been broken like pottery in an earthquake, another big piece has fallen.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61302740


https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/self-destruct-push-button-260nw-24492337.jpg

[les green01]

Wasn't there someone who promised to close the borders, and make Mexico pay for it?
But then maybe all illegal aliens should leave.. from 1600 AD on.
Very thin ice, i know :D

That wouldn't bother me since I got Cherokee in me

[Skybird]

Neue Zürcher Zeitung correctly analyzes:


If the leaked draft corresponds to the final ruling of the U.S. Supreme Court on the abortion issue, it would mean a political earthquake. After decades of bitter dispute, it would make history of "Roe v. Wade," a nearly fifty-year-old landmark decision whose fame is probably surpassed only by the rulings on equality for African Americans.

Not surprisingly, it restricts abortion rights. After the Supreme Court received a clear conservative majority a year and a half ago with the third vacancy to be filled by Donald Trump, this was to be expected. What is more astonishing is the radicalism with which the justices overturned "Roe v. Wade." The draft speaks of a ruling that was "egregiously wrong from the outset," "extraordinarily weak reasoning," and damaging consequences.

Indeed, the decision at the time, with its very broad liberalization, has weaknesses that fueled rather than resolved the conflict over abortion. Nevertheless, the choice of words is remarkable for a precedent that has been confirmed several times and is of great importance in the Anglo-Saxon system in terms of legal certainty.
Abortions remain legal in only half of the states

The judges are thus likely to refrain from a compromise that the case to be judged would basically allow. It concerns a Mississippi law that allows abortions up to 15 weeks. To declare that provision permissible would be to curtail "Roe," but would still mean a liberal provision by international standards. In the U.S., 93 percent of abortions are performed before that time.

Chief Justice John Roberts is likely to favor this solution, experts say. But it would not end the wrangling over what is perhaps the most important issue in the American culture war. To that extent, an outright repeal of Roe v. Wade is the more consistent step.

The consequences, however, would probably be more serious in theory than in practice. Abortion would no longer be regulated at the national level, but fifty different state laws would come into force. This is not unusual in the distinctly federal United States. In anticipation of a change in jurisdiction, thirteen conservative states have already enacted so-called trigger laws that will ban abortions with the end of "Roe."

According to the non-governmental organization Guttmacher Institute, thirteen more states are certain or likely to ban the procedure in the future. Only in just under half of the states would abortions remain permitted, according to the report. In a country of this size, this is undoubtedly a problem and an anachronistic step backward for women's right to self-determination.

However, the possibilities for abortion in conservative regions have already been narrowly limited by constant tightening of the law. In six states, for example, there is only one abortion clinic, which forced women to travel long distances. In progressive states such as Illinois, gynecological practices have sprung up in close proximity to states with practical bans.

Organizations that advocate for women's freedom of choice pay for the travel expenses of needy pregnant women and can now count on a flood of donations. Even various companies have announced that they will cover the corresponding expenses of their female employees. Finally, more than half of all abortions are now induced by medication, with the possibility of procuring the necessary tablets legally or illegally from another member state or from abroad. Nevertheless, there are likely to be hardship cases with occasionally even fatal consequences. They will primarily affect poor women and thus disproportionately often members of ethnic minorities.

None of this changes the outcry that the draft ruling has triggered among advocates of liberal abortion rights in the United States. The fact that it was made public prematurely is unprecedented and is likely to shake the court permanently. It has been careful to maintain secrecy and cooperation based on trust - also to counter the accusation of politicization that has been raised with increasing frequency in recent years.

Only a small and exclusive circle of judges and their closest associates could have access to the draft. Who had an interest in the leak, presumably in order to steer the verdict in another direction, is an open question. What is certain, however, is that this drags the Supreme Court into the maelstrom of partisan politics. This is enormously damaging to the court's reputation - and thus to the acceptance of its decisions.

This will already be noticeable in June, when the judges will pass their final verdict on the abortion issue. Whatever the outcome: For part of the country, it will be a purely political decision, which will be compromised accordingly. For the Supreme Court, it will be a debacle. It will only fuel the controversy that the draft says it is trying to settle with the end of Roe v. Wade.


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Rumors say that the Disunited States of America intend to deepen their gaps and trenches considerably in the near future by boosting the digging activities. The NRA will be happy - too much harmony spoils the business, and in the end people die of boredom: then they don't buy anything anymore.

[August]

Wasn't there someone who promised to close the borders, and make Mexico pay for it?
But then maybe all illegal aliens should leave.. from 1600 AD on.
Very thin ice, i know :D


There was, and other people managed to obstruct and hamstring the Dude enough that it prevented him from fulfilling his promise. It takes a village you know.

[August]

A much more interesting article:


https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-shocking-supreme-court-leak?s=r


The Shocking Supreme Court Leak

And our race to the bottom.



(https://substack.com/profile/2067309-bari-weiss)

Bari Weiss (https://substack.com/profile/2067309-bari-weiss)

In March, we ran a piece by the reporter Aaron Sibarium called “The Takeover of America’s Legal System (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-takeover-of-americas-legal-system?s=w).” The story made the case, backed up by exhaustive reporting, that just as education and the press and medicine were being transformed from within, so too, was the law. And those who comforted themselves with the notion that the law would be a bulwark against the new dogma were in for a rude awakening.
Aaron showed that the young lawyers who were entering the most elite legal institutions in the country—law firms and law schools and courts—didn’t necessarily share the ethos of those institutions. In fact, many of them explicitly seek to revolutionize them.
My thoughts immediately went to this story when I saw the shocking headline last night by Politico: The Supreme Court plans to overturn Roe. We know that because someone leaked what appears to be an initial draft of the majority opinion of a decision that was expected to land in late June.
You can read the entire thing here (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473).
The opinion, written by Justice Samuel Alito and joined by Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, holds that “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start.” It goes on: “We hold that Roe and Casey”—the 1992 decision that upheld Roe, which passed in 1973—“must be overruled.” More: “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”
Less than two hours after Politico dropped the story, CNN reported that Chief Justice John Roberts does not want to overturn Roe, but was willing to uphold the Mississippi law that would ban abortion at 15 weeks of pregnancy. Who knows what could leak next.
From what I can see, this is a shattering event on three levels. Substantively, politically, and institutionally.
Substantively. If indeed this draft opinion becomes the law, what will it mean for American women to live in a country where Roe is overturned and abortion is kicked back to the states? What will it mean practically? What would it mean for women in the 13 states (https://www.axios.com/roe-v-wade-repeal-supreme-court-texas-mississippi-fbf18076-8b9b-4243-bd8b-e75700671259.html) where abortion would become immediately illegal? What would it mean for the doctors (https://mobile.twitter.com/SawyerHackett/status/1521301392241082370) who perform those abortions, including in cases of rape and incest? Or in the case of ectopic pregnancies? And other unthinkable questions.
Politically. The most obvious take here is that the Democrats were in for a bruising in the midterms and this was leaked by a liberal to galvanize Democrats. Galvanize how? Perhaps to get voters to turn out as if their lives depended on it. Perhaps to pass a law before the midterms legalizing abortion. (Here’s Bernie Sanders on Twitter last night: “Congress must pass legislation that codifies Roe v. Wade as the law of the land in this country NOW. And if there aren’t 60 votes in the Senate to do it, and there are not, we must end the filibuster to pass it with 50 votes.”) Perhaps to reanimate the case for court-packing (https://twitter.com/jemelehill/status/1521300568349704192).
Institutionally. I know several people who have clerked for the Court. And because I am, like every journalist, utterly and shamelessly nosy, I have pressed all of them to share their personal anecdotes about the mysterious men and women in black robes. Sure, they’d share fun details about pick-up basketball (https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703339304575240380083814238), or the famously warm relationship between Scalia and RBG. Maybe, years after the fact, they’d tell a highly curated, well-rehearsed story. But the idea of breathing a word about the actual workings of the court, about a decision that had not yet been made public—that would have appalled every single one of these people, liberal and conservative alike.
How did we go from that ethos to a world in which—leaving the possibility of some kind of Russian or Chinese hack, or a more banal security breach, or someone pulling the draft from the garbage—one or more clerks are undermining the institution itself? (That question is the same whether the leaker was a liberal enraged about the decision, or, less obviously, a conservative, perhaps trying to firm up a fifth vote (https://twitter.com/collinwood_j/status/1521318922301186048) or somehow pressure the chief justice.)
On the question of abortion—its morality and its legality—I do not think there is a better piece that has been written than on the subject than this one by Caitlin Flanagan. It’s called “The Dishonesty of the Abortion Debate (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/12/the-things-we-cant-face/600769/)” and I urge you to read it. And, if you haven’t yet, please listen (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-youre-wrong-and-right-about-abortion/id1570872415?i=1000537717849) to the conversation I had with Caitlin about abortion on Honestly, which captures where I sit on this fraught issue.
Perhaps you feel torn. Most Americans do (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/briefing/abortion-debate-public-opinion.html): A majority of Americans consistently say they do not want Roe to be overturned . . . and yet a majority of Americans also favor some restrictions on abortion. According to Gallup, less than 30 percent of Americans say that abortion should “generally be legal” in the second trimester. All of which suggests that few people have actually read Roe.
On the question of politics, and the hideous ways this leak and the decision itself will play out, there will surely be much more to say in the coming days. (As I write, the crowd gathered outside the Court (https://twitter.com/njhochman/status/1521323289259483136) is chanting, “Fascist scum have got to go.”) This leak is tremendous news for Democrats, who would spend every moment until the midterms promising to overturn this ruling (and running away from the subject of inflation).
To my mind, though, the question of what this leak means for the institution of the Supreme Court is the most profound one. That is because it captures, in a single act, what I believe is the most important story of our moment: the story of how American institutions became a casualty in the culture war. The story of how no institution is immune. Not our universities, not our medical schools (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/what-happens-when-doctors-cant-speak?s=w), not legacy media, not technology behemoths, not the federal bureaucracy. Not even the highest court in the land.
The Supreme Court was always the most cloistered governmental institution in America—the one where wisdom and precedent and reverence for our great constitutional tradition outweighed everything else. If there was something sacred that remained, this was it. Yes, there have been leaks from the Court before (https://mobile.twitter.com/jonathanwpeters/status/1521309806430236672). But as Politico pointed out, last night’s leak was historic, and not in a good way: “No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending.”
I called up one of the smartest professors I know at one of the top law schools in the country, and he echoed that: “To my knowledge, it’s never happened before in the modern history of the court. It is the most serious possible breach.”
Serious, severe, shocking, he said. But in the end, not surprising. Why not? Here’s how he put it: “To me, the leak is not surprising because many of the people we’ve been graduating from schools like Yale are the kind of people who would do such a thing.”
What did he mean by that? “They think that everything is violence. And so everything is permitted.”
He went on: “I’m sure this person sees themselves as a whistleblower. What they don’t understand is that, by leaking this, they violate the trust that is necessary to maintain the institution.”
Perhaps some of you feel that the institution had already been betrayed. That the Court, long before this leak or this explosive decision, had already been diminished. Maybe the refusal to consider Merrick Garland put you over the edge. Or maybe it was the revelations about Clarence Thomas’s wife and January 6th. Or maybe it was the Kavanaugh hearings. How he was grilled. Or that he was nominated. Or maybe it was earlier: Bush v. Gore or Anita Hill or Robert Bork.
This feels different than all of that. Why? Because all of those other instances were moments of outrage bookended by long periods of sobriety and seriousness. They were the exceptions that proved the rule. Now, everything seems to have been turned upside down, and the outrage, the uncontrollable or unslakable partisan fury, seems to have overtaken everything. Our sense of history, our respect for the institution, for norms, for even more basic human things: like trust, devotion, privacy, integrity. Jonathan Turley put it this way (https://mobile.twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1521304395484442624) late last night: “There appears no ethical rule or institutional interest that can withstand this age of rage.”
To the jaded and hardened who have already crossed over into this new age—an age in which power and winning are the only tests of virtue, and the old ideas, like civility and respect, now seem twee—the leak might seem normal or even necessary. But it is nothing more than the most recent salvo in our race to the bottom.

[Rockstar]

Wasn't there someone who promised to close the borders, and make Mexico pay for it?
But then maybe all illegal aliens should leave.. from 1600 AD on.
Very thin ice, i know :D

Ya the last president tried to construct a wall in Texas and it was stopped by Democrats who said it doesn’t do any good, it doesn’t work and mocked the idea of building one saying it was a shameful act. Let’s face it Biden could have continued the project.

It amazed me that Democrats seemed to me to be the loudest and most obnoxious of those who protested the idea of building a wall in Texas. Considering Democrats in California already have a wall which stretches from the Pacific Ocean into Arizona and continues to invest in its maintenance. In fact the Cali wall works so well that human traffickers attempt to go around the fence via the high seas in what we call launchas to smuggle people into the U.S.

I guess when the Vice President of the United States said: “Don’t come” she just meant don’t come to California because there’s a wall there. Texas is OK though they don’t have one.


https://youtu.be/bpGitFIzamQ

[Buddahaid]

Too educated....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izYZUCu-jg4&t=307s

[Rockstar]

Ya that’s what he says.

Wages stagnant, inflation continues to rise, congress continues to print money and spend, a war in Euroasia has the potential to expand into a conflict between NATO and Russia. And buffoons like this guy keep trying to place an entire population of voters into one box because of one man’s opinion. Which was most likely taken out of context to get likes anyway.

Honestly are either you really that concerned what’s happening in Florida or are you just desperately trying to convince yourselves things are so much better in your own state? If it matters so much why don’t you both register to vote in Florida?

[ET2SN]

I have a way to fix all of this, but its never been popular. :hmmm:

Basically, recognize that it takes two to tango then take the burden off the women.

When a male turns 13, they have to report to a federal health clinic to get a vasectomy. Its just like the draft only with a bag of frozen peas. :up:

OK, you say, what about the birth rate?
No problem, if you want kids and you're in a stable relationship (for example, you've been married for five years) and you have money in the bank to support the child(ren) and you pass the medical tests that say you would father a healthy child, you go to court with proof of your relationship and some pay stubs and medical records. If the court agrees, you get the vasectomy reversed until you have enough children to make you happy. Then, you go back for another vasectomy.

This plan would work. :yep: It would just be a pain in the balls.

[Buddahaid]

Re: Rockstar. So instead of addressing what he has to say you attack his credibility. I guess I'm too educated to get it.

[Buddahaid]

I have a way to fix all of this, but its never been popular. :hmmm:

Basically, recognize that it takes two to tango then take the burden off the women.

When a male turns 13, they have to report to a federal health clinic to get a vasectomy. Its just like the draft only with a bag of frozen peas. :up:

OK, you say, what about the birth rate?
No problem, if you want kids and you're in a stable relationship (for example, you've been married for five years) and you have money in the bank to support the child(ren) and you pass the medical tests that say you would father a healthy child, you go to court with proof of your relationship and some pay stubs and medical records. If the court agrees, you get the vasectomy reversed until you have enough children to make you happy. Then, you go back for another vasectomy.

This plan would work. :yep: It would just be a pain in the balls.

You make the mistake of making males responsible for their weaknesses. The father is the head of the house etc. ad nauseum.

[Rockstar]

Re: Rockstar. So instead of addressing what he has to say I just did.

I guess I'm too educated to get it.

I reckon so. You said it I didn’t.

[ET2SN]

Ya the last president tried to construct a wall in Texas and it was stopped by Democrats who said it doesn’t do any good, it doesn’t work and mocked the idea of building one saying it was a shameful act. Let’s face it Biden could have continued the project.



I missed the part where you were out in the fields picking lettuce. :yep:

[Buddahaid]

I just did.



I reckon so. You said it I didn’t.

It's all good. I appreciate this forum for the sounding board it is in voicing contrary opinion. :Kaleun_Cheers:

[Gorpet]

Harsh critics are often talented, intelligent, and productive people. Unfortunately, they have a flaw that compels them to disparage others – almost, at times, as though they are diagnosing an illness in need of eradication. It seems they’re living according to the famous quip by Mark Twain: “Nothing so needs reforming as other people’s habits.”
In the language of the self-help and recovery movements, these folks are often suffering from a disorder known as, “If You Spot It, You Got It [IYSIYGI].”

It works like this: You notice that colleague X has what is, in your mind, is an affliction. You then take it upon yourself to castigate him for his affliction — irrespective of whether or not it impairs his on-the-job performance or has a negative effect on group morale.
What makes this dynamic so ugly is that unbeknownst to the person under attack, the critic is being driven to criticize by a repressed-and-intolerable feeling that he’s “got” what he deplores in others.







https://hbr.org/2014/03/why-are-some-people-so-critical[/QUOTE]

[Gorpet]

Harsh critics are often talented, intelligent, and productive people. Unfortunately, they have a flaw that compels them to disparage others – almost, at times, as though they are diagnosing an illness in need of eradication. It seems they’re living according to the famous quip by Mark Twain: “Nothing so needs reforming as other people’s habits.”
In the language of the self-help and recovery movements, these folks are often suffering from a disorder known as, “If You Spot It, You Got It [IYSIYGI].”

It works like this: You notice that colleague X has what is, in your mind, is an affliction. You then take it upon yourself to castigate him for his affliction — irrespective of whether or not it impairs his on-the-job performance or has a negative effect on group morale.
What makes this dynamic so ugly is that unbeknownst to the person under attack, the critic is being driven to criticize by a repressed-and-intolerable feeling that he’s “got” what he deplores in others.

Everyday, and if you are a Caucasoid it can get worse for you. In the new world order.




https://hbr.org/2014/03/why-are-some-people-so-critical[/QUOTE] somebody please hit me with the spelling

[Buddahaid]

Everyday, and if you are a Caucasoid it can get worse for you. In the new world order.




https://hbr.org/2014/03/why-are-some-people-so-critical[/QUOTE]

Yes Ke-mo sah-bee.

[Rockstar]

Well, at least someone finally came right out and attempted to tell the truth. But then the usual political deflection “The president blamed the COVID-19 pandemic, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and what he described as greedy oil and meat companies’ price spikes — rather than government spending.”

Biden finally admits soaring inflation a ‘real tough problem,’ suggests it may get worse

https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/biden-finally-admits-inflation-a-real-tough-problem-suggests-it-may-get-worse/


———————

Meanwhile the ones who actually control fiscal policy and oversee the FED are busy getting to the bottom of the most immediate concern facing us all. lol

Congress to Hold First Open Hearing About UFOs in 50 Years
Two Pentagon officials will testify at a hearing about UFOs next week.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5qany/congress-to-hold-first-open-hearing-about-ufos-in-50-years

[Moonlight]

Meanwhile the ones who actually control fiscal policy and oversee the FED are busy getting to the bottom of the most immediate concern facing us all. lol

Congress to Hold First Open Hearing About UFOs in 50 Years
Two Pentagon officials will testify at a hearing about UFOs next week.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5qany/congress-to-hold-first-open-hearing-about-ufos-in-50-years

What a waste of time and money, until these Aliens present themselves to the worlds population as our New Overlords and Masters I would say that they are nonexistent until then, Congress really need to get a grip on what matters and what doesn't matter, Supreme Court decisions matter, Nonexistent Aliens don't.

Meanwhile, what has just happened in El Salvador could soon be happening to the Good Ol Halfwits of the USA.
El Salvador mother, 28, is jailed for 30 years for 'homicide' after suffering a miscarriage H'mmm, why isn't the male who impregnated her not in prison as well?, he's not been charged and convicted for being an accessory to the miscarriage, as it's half his fault he should get the same sentence as her. :o

Me thinks if that happened they'd soon overturn these stupid abortion laws they've adopted, an appeal needs to be lodged citing the males part in the pregnancy and also the miscarriage of justice that the male has avoided as well, I reckon that will stop these trials for the next ten or twenty years or until plain common sense prevails. :03:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10799805/El-Salvador-jails-woman-30-years-homicide-obstetric-emergency-group.html

[mapuc]

What a waste of time and money, until these Aliens present themselves to the worlds population as our New Overlords and Masters I would say that they are nonexistent until then, Congress really need to get a grip on what matters and what doesn't matter, Supreme Court decisions matter, Nonexistent Aliens don't.

Meanwhile, what has just happened in El Salvador could soon be happening to the Good Ol Halfwits of the USA.
H'mmm, why isn't the male who impregnated her not in prison as well?, he's not been charged and convicted for being an accessory to the miscarriage, as it's half his fault he should get the same sentence as her. :o

Me thinks if that happened they'd soon overturn these stupid abortion laws they've adopted, an appeal needs to be lodged citing the males part in the pregnancy and also the miscarriage of justice that the male has avoided as well, I reckon that will stop these trials for the next ten or twenty years or until plain common sense prevails. :03:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10799805/El-Salvador-jails-woman-30-years-homicide-obstetric-emergency-group.html

Not to derail the US-politics to much

Would you as an Alien take contact with a violent human race-I wouldn't I would monitor the planet and then leave. Then send my observation to the right receiver(don't know what they would be) with the words-Are far from ready to be contacted..

Markus

[Skybird]

Compared to aliens' unimaginable violence humans' violance maybe rate as helpless and boring sheep-counting to get better sleep.

[Rockstar]

In case anyone is interested. This is a copy of the draft opinion obtained from the SCOTUS.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000180-874f-dd36-a38c-c74f98520000


This is late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s opinion of Roe v. Wade.

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-offers-critique-roe-v-wade-during-law-school-visit

[Rockstar]

For those who were wondering if Biden just simply forgot to deploy troops. Well here it is! :D

Biden Approves Plan to Redeploy Several Hundred Ground Forces Into Somalia

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-approves-plan-to-redeploy-several-hundred-ground-forces-into-somalia/ar-AAXlbyi

Unfortunately I don’t think he’s even aware of what the hell is going on! We know this only because it was a ‘secret’ disclosed by some anonymous person speaking for the president that said so. WTF!? Over :har:

Together, the decisions by Mr. Biden, described by the officials on the condition of anonymity, will revive an open-ended American counterterrorism operation


To this day I’m still flabbergasted and amazed at the massive amount of bandwidth consumed and pages upon pages of empty mindless fanboi words written here declaring how much better it will be, if only! SHOULD have known nothing was really going to change. Gullible morons :haha:

https://youtu.be/w_q2LBA38NI

[Buddahaid]

Don't feel so smug, Trumptanic had to be sunk....:arrgh!:

[Rockstar]

Smug would suggest you think I’m somehow satisfied. To tell the truth, I’m far from it. In fact I don’t know wether to laugh or cry.

Besides anonymous officials telling, us off record, of ‘secret’ troop deployments has anyone heard from sleepy Joe in the last hundred days?

Trumptanic had to be sunk.... :arrgh!:

Btw, give yourself a pat on the back tiger I’m sure you think you deserve it :roll:

[em2nought]

Don't feel so smug, Trumptanic had to be sunk....:arrgh!:

More like a USS West Virginia which returned to fight again in 1944 after another kind of "sneak" attack in '41. :D

[Onkel Neal]

Oh boy, Sleepy Joe just stepped in it big time. The US will militarily defend Taiwan? That's pretty big news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k-SJ2eG8c0

"The idea that...it can be taken by force is just not appropriabllellehh"

[ET2SN]

Oh boy, Sleepy Joe just stepped in it big time. The US will militarily defend Taiwan? That's pretty big news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k-SJ2eG8c0

"The idea that...it can be taken by force is just not appropriabllellehh"

Where have you been for the last 50 years? :haha:

We've always supported Taiwan, just look at their aircraft junkyards.
Now, look at their air bases. Those aren't Migs or Mirages.
Sometimes that support has been "tacit" and we just didn't talk about it, but its always been there. :yeah:

[mapuc]

I say it's nothing but words-Biden & Co is hoping that these spoken words would be enough.

If China do invade or try to invade I predict that USA will do the same with Ukraine Send lots of weapon and ammo and other things.

Markus

[em2nought]

It would be quite something if WW3 started because of a gaffe. :hmmm:

[ET2SN]

Based on the quantity and quality of semiconductors made in Taiwan, they've become a strategic asset. :yep:

For those of you who were planning to buy a new car, why do you think the dealer's lots were empty? :O:

[Aktungbby]

As I've mentioned in another thread, Taiwan is the "other shoe" waiting to drop as China monitors its "limitless friendship" with Russia and its third rate fiasco in Ukraine. Biden is the defacto head of 'the Quad', composed of India, Australia, the US and an increasingly militarized Japan to offset an increasing militarist expansion into the Pacific and Indian Oceans, the South China Sea already being a Sino-lagoon, to the chagrin of the subsidary allies: Philippines and VietNam. Biden's proffer to defend Taiwan is the only reasonable position alliancewise that he could make at this juncture to preserve any semblance of the the " post WWII world order" the "limitless friendship" seeks to overthrow. https://sgp.fas.org/crs/row/IF11678.pdf

[mapuc]

I foresee a coalition

C.I.R and some smaller state in this coalition

Markus

[August]

I don't know if this video is right but I do get the impression that Mountainous Taiwan might not be an easy nut to crack militarily.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9yke-sU6TU

[em2nought]

Philippines wants closer relations with China :hmmm:https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Bongbong-Marcos-will-move-the-Philippines-closer-to-China

[Rockstar]

The gun control kabuki show

https://youtu.be/MHg4CPmnqow

[August]

Pretty good article:


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/food-fight-politics


Food fight politics

by Jay Cost, Contributing Editor (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/author/jay-cost)

| June 02, 2022 11:00 PM


The tragic shooting of an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, in late May led predictably to another round of public debate about guns. Or, maybe better put, public screeching about guns. Progressives demanded stricter gun control laws. Some, such as Robert “Beto” O’Rourke of Texas, went so far as to call for the seizure of AR-15s. On the right, conservatives insisted on the inviolability of the Second Amendment.
Here’s a prediction you can take to the bank: The two sides will bicker pointlessly about this issue until Uvalde fades from the news. Nothing of substance will happen, nothing will change. People will get bored and go on to find something else to be outraged at each other about. Two weeks ago, it was abortion. A month ago, it was Ukraine. Three months ago, it was trans rights. We’re just about due for another round of Trump and Russia. Eventually, of course, another shooting will occur, and then, we will be back to yelling about guns.

Are we doomed to repeat this, again and again? Why must our politics be so pointless? Unfortunately, the answer to the first question is yes, because the answer to the second question is that we as a people no longer possess the civic virtue necessary to fix it.

In an alternate universe, left and right might agree to disagree about gun control, then come together on commonsense measures. Increased school security. A more reliable system to identify, treat, and monitor those who are seriously mentally ill. Better training for law enforcement. A law would be passed, the government would implement it, and hopefully, shootings would decrease.

But we do not live in that world, for two reasons.

First, only a fool can possibly believe that our government at this point can design and implement effective public policy to deal with a crisis of this magnitude. This is, remember, the same government that could not get HealthCare.gov to work. The last quarter-century has witnessed our government fail on all sorts of issues across almost every imaginable policy dimension — from claiming there were WMD in Iraq to securing the peace in Iraq or Afghanistan to reining in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (which it created, by the way) before the housing crisis to dealing with the housing crisis to promoting efficiency in public healthcare spending to managing COVID to securing economic growth in the post-COVID economy. Failure, failure, failure.

It really says something that the most successful piece of government action in the last generation was Obamacare.

Our administrative state, across departments and agencies, is a byzantine tangle of sclerotic incompetence. Our Congress is shot through with conflicts of interest. Legislators do not even write, let alone read, the laws they pass. They outsource lawmaking to staff who then go on to take jobs at lobbying firms. Too many of our public intellectuals are well-credentialed time servers, lacking wisdom, prudence, and especially virtue. Govern? We don’t do that around here anymore.

Nationally, it is shocking to consider the extent to which we are still running on laws mainly promulgated during the Great Society and early Nixon years. Most, if not all, of them need to be substantially redesigned, but our institutions of government cannot do it.

Second, too many people, on both the Left and Right, are completely uninterested in fixing any of this, for that would require compromise. Politics is supposed to be the venue by which a diverse people finds points of agreement. But that is not how we treat it. Politics is our religion these days, and the worship of the divine does not usually admit of splitting the difference.

But this might be too charitable, for it implies that Americans have some profound, yet overwrought, commitment to abstract principles of right and wrong. Does that give us too much credit? Perhaps. Certainly, some Americans are so severely committed to a set of abstract principles that common ground is anathema to them. But many, many others enjoy the conflict for its own grubby pleasures. Our politics are a cafeteria food fight, and lots of people love flinging the meatloaf.

The ones who enjoy American politics for the sheer malice of it seem to sample disproportionately from the most engaged quarters of the citizenry. Anybody who has spent any time on Twitter is surely aware of this, at least on some level. Here’s a fun experiment. Take your “favorite” Twitter loudmouth, be it on the Left or the Right. Really, it can be anybody with a huge following who tweets provocative things that make compromise less likely, not more. Navigate over to his homepage on Twitter and take a gander at when he joined Twitter. Then, notice how many tweets he has sent over his time on that Godforsaken website. A little bit of fourth-grade division will quickly reveal how many times a day he tweets, on average. I conduct this experiment regularly and am shocked to discover the blue-check “thought leaders” on Twitter blasting out 100 or more tweets a day on average. Assuming they sleep at all, that can work out to be six to 10 tweets an hour, every waking hour, for a decade.

Do these people strike one as the types interested in compromise? It seems like what they really want is the cheap dopamine rush of screeching at how evil people (whom they’ve never met) are, and seeing their righteous indignation rewarded with thousands of likes and retweets.
Crazy as it may sound in the age of social media, the original purpose of the First Amendment was to facilitate collective deliberation. Public opinion, James Madison once wrote, “is the real sovereign in every free” government. And for it to be a benevolent sovereign, there must be a “general intercourse of sentiments” among the citizenry. In other words, the people must talk among themselves, figure out what they agree on, and have the government go do those things. It's supposed to be constructive.

But we the people do not do that anymore. There are retweets to be had. There are libs to be owned. There are “ultra-MAGA deplorables” to be reviled. The issue of the day is not an opportunity to come together around shared values to try to make life better. It is a chance to denounce the opposition and feel good about our own moral rectitude. And all the while, the institutions of American self-government decay, decay, decay.

And for politicians such as the execrable O’Rourke, there’s money to be made. More stunts, more posturing, and more moralizing leads to more small-dollar donations, and ultimately greater clout in national politics. These days, you’d have to be a fool to get into politics to make things better. O’Rourke, at least, seems to recognize that. On some level, one can’t help but admire the hustle of our political confidence men.

American self-government in the 21st century is, at its core, a rotten spectacle. Day after day, week after week, we spew splenetic rage upon our fellow citizens in the hope that our side acquires control of a government that is too incompetent to do much of anything. For this, we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

Jay Cost is a visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a visiting scholar at Grove City College.

[Rockstar]

https://youtu.be/FYHaJlWQM2E

[mapuc]

With my left ear I could hear

Trump accused of attempted coup.

Made a search and found this article from BBC

Liz Cheney, the Republican vice-chair of the committee, said Mr Trump had "lit the flame of this attack".

Bennie Thompson, a Democrat, said the riot endangered American democracy

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61753870

Markus

[Catfish]

America seems to want to destroy itself by all means, from an attempted coup to trying to whitewash it, for "party reasons" :nope:
okok i'm out again

[Skybird]

Yes, when a de facto coup was tried and so many of the Ameicna people do not want to call it that or doi not even care for it as olong as it were their won guys attempting the coup, this is deeply worrying and a sign for how hollow the tree inside already is. Very, very irritating.


And signs of inner erosion, no matter how differently the indiviudual national symptoms may look, are to be seen all over the Western nations. Its scaring.



Some say history runs in cycles. If true then our cycle is almost completed. Rise. Climax. Fall. Implosion. Prepare for bright lights and loud sounds.



In a more, far more totalitarian and bigot form the US may even "survive" the transformation, at the cost of becoming a dystopic, dictatorial state. For Europe, honestly said, I see black only, and collapse. And maybe continental war.


I used ot think 20, 30 years ago that Philip Dick wrote Science Fiction. I am not so sure anymore. Many of his stories and novels are too close to the forseeable near future to be comfortable anymore. Many of his stories and novels are now too close to a near, predictable future to be comfortable. In particular, his once "curious" ideas about societal self-censorship and social control, and the equalization of the individual, the industrially and politically produced illusion of individuality, are now causing a feeling like a lump in the throat.

[August]

Some coup. :roll: A nation awash in firearms and the only ones toting guns that day were the cops.

[Buddahaid]

A Coup d'etat only requires it to be an illegal change in government.

[Dargo]

Apparently, Trump has been bitching that the hearing yesterday 'only showed negative coverage'... of his failed Coup d'état to overthrow the United States government.

[Skybird]

He didn't pull the cat's tail, he just held it tightly, and that's not illegal, is it?


https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.597270651.5052/poster,504x498,f8f8f8-pad,600x600,f8f8f8.u5.jpg

[u crank]

A Coup d'etat only requires it to be an illegal change in government.

What a successful coup d'etat would require is the support of a majority of the military, police agencies and the intelligence agencies. Of course Trump and the Jan 6th rioters had none of that. There was zero chance of a successful illegal change in US government. It was stupid but not nearly the danger that Pelosi and company would like to portray it as.

[Buddahaid]

Stupid but no less real.

[mapuc]

I can't say if it was a Coup D'Etat

Some say it was, while others say it wasn't.

So lets...again...concentrate on who, why, what and whom

Who attacked the Congress ?

Why did they do it ?

What did they gain by this attack ?

Whom gave the order ?

Markus

[u crank]

Stupid but no less real.

Yes but we should call it what it was, not what we want it to be.

[Skybird]

Say, does attemtped murder not bring you into prison because the attempt failed?

A coup tried and failed nevertheless is an attempted coup d'etat. Which in this case corresponds to conspiracy, and treason against the constitutional order of the state.

Its deeply worrying that many Americans just do not care for this. It is absolutely worrying.

Trump tried to illegally steal the vote, that he tried a coup. That was beyond doubt back then, and still is today. And he still spreads his lies today. After one and a half year, he still spread his lies. Any many still believe them.

Others simply forgive him. Or never cared at all, from beginning on. Just wnmated him to be succcessful, no mattwer how, no matter what, willing every way to get there. All these people - have betrayed, left behind, abandoned everything the American constitution, the law, the very idea behing this state's mere existence, stand for. Them all have replaces this with another form of law: the law of the strongest, the law of the jungle.

Absolutely worrying.

[Buddahaid]

Yes but we should call it what it was, not what we want it to be.

All in the point of view. For me, Trump tried to make a self coup and it doesn't matter that it failed, or how stupid the attempt was. He still tried.

[mapuc]

I'm one of these foreigners who gives a hiccup about who's sitting in the White House I am however not ignorant when it comes to following or breaking the laws.

The House has come to the conclusion it was a Coup D'Etat
Now Trump has to take the punishment.

Markus

[Skybird]

The House has come to the conclusion it was a Coup D'Etat
Now Trump has to take the punishment.

Problem is the Grand Ornage Party disagrees on that. Too many fat cats in there built their future career hopes on his rotten legacy. Thats why the rott will continue to ripen and to smell.

That the left and the woke do not offer alternatives to be taken serious, but picks away at the system from the other end of the spectrum, does not help.
After over one year, I stick to it: as long as no better candidate shows up, Biden is not the worst option. He ids not my ideal, but in the face of names beign on display right now in both parties, I think one can live with him. That the polarization in the US blocks him to death, is not his fault, but in the end, directly and indirectly: Trump's.

Midterm elections I cannot see to become an opportunity for joy for the Dems.


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Achse des Guten certainly is a website that is not shy to use polemics at many times. But sometimes, they have good stuff, and sometimes they have a mix of both: true information but spiced with polemics. I wonder whether I can trust this text on California. It includes many direct links in the text, so I give the link to the German text and the translator links. If I would translate and post the text via DeepL as I usually do, the links would get lost, and Google does not that good a job in comparison (it also works erratic for me since I set my browser options so very tight and safer). Its a text about how very much fed up people in California seem to be with the consequences of "progressive politics".

Politcal Earthquake in California
https://www.achgut.com/artikel/politisches_erdbeben_in_kalifornien

For translating via entering website link:
https://translate.google.de/

For translating better via entering the text, basted and copied:
https://www.deepl.com/de/translator

DeepL is much better, but does not translate website via link like Google can.

I find it hard to believe what they write here. Is it real, or exaggerated?

[Otto Harkaman]

The coup d'etat was the Democratic party taking over the government blowing a smoke screen it was Trump. Welcome to double digit inflation, soaring energy costs and soon a complete breakdown of the food network. More wars on the horizon with Hunter Biden porn movies to boot. Enjoy, sorry no popcorn, its being turned 22 pounds of corn into 1 gallon of Ethanol for renewable energy. :yeah:

[Buddahaid]

Have some more Koolaid.

[Otto Harkaman]

have some yourself, oh sorry I have to charge you more than last time, price increase ya know inflation

[Rockstar]

Biden throws Zelensky under the bus by starting the blame game over defeat in Ukraine.

Recall he has also said we will respond militarily against China over Taiwan. And he also demanded a regime change to replace Putin. So hopefully this Zelensky thing is just the ramblings of an old man who apparently forgot we've been preparing, training and equipping Ukraine for this war only for the last eight fek'in years now.


https://censor-net.translate.goog/ua/news/3347304/zelenskyyi_ignoruvav_nashi_poperedjennya_pro_vtorg nennya_rosiyi_bayiden?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp


Zelensky ignored our warnings of Russian invasion, Biden said


News Censor.NET (https://censor-net.translate.goog/ua/news/all?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp) War in Ukraine (https://censor-net.translate.goog/ua/news/all/page/1/archive/0/category/533/sortby/date?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp)


US President Joe Biden believes that his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky, like many others, may have ignored warnings from the United States on the eve of February 24 that Russia would invade Ukraine in full.
According to Censor.NET (https://censor-net.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp) , citing Bloomberg (https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-US&client=webapp&u=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-11/biden-says-zelenskiy-brushed-off-warnings-of-russia-s-invasion) , he said this during a meeting with voters in Los Angeles.


"I know a lot of people thought I might be exaggerating, but I knew, and we had evidence to prove that he [Putin] would cross the border. There was no doubt. And Zelensky didn't want to hear that, and a lot of people too, "Biden said.


He acknowledged that the possibility of a full-scale Russian invasion may have seemed far-fetched to many: "I understand why they did not want to hear it."


Zelensky, the National Security and Defense Council and the GUR have repeatedly stated that they more or less knew in advance about the invasion and prepared the country for defense as much as possible "so as not to cause panic."


The US president has accused Russian dictator Vladimir Putin of trying to destroy the culture, not just the nation of Ukraine. According to him, the leader of the Russian occupiers considers Kyiv "the cradle of Mother Russia." Джерело: https://censor.net/ua/n3347304

[em2nought]

The coup d'etat was the Democratic party taking over the government

Yes, it was in fact a successful coup d'etat, successful because Obama's deep state makes the Mariana Trench look like a puddle. Obama is/was an evil genius. :03:

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILQepXUhJ98
In this video George spells it out pretty well that politicians are just bought and paid for by corporations and also why Americans keep getting dumber at the same time. Deep state? More like Deep Pockets.

[Rockstar]

Critical Race Theory how does it go? You have to face it like a Democrat and the liberal hive mind. Which apparently does not tolerate independent thought of young black business man with tattoos who vote for Trump. Democrats don’t like it when they wander off the CRT plantation I guess. :har:

https://youtu.be/gkjPr__xum0

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILQepXUhJ98
In this video George spells it out pretty well that politicians are just bought and paid for by corporations and also why Americans keep getting dumber at the same time. Deep state? More like Deep Pockets.


Seen many times, but always good. Is that still him or is that already me?


And no, its not just in the US. Its seems to be everywhere, certainly her ein Germany. Same stupid youenterthenastyword going on.

[mapuc]

From the news here I understand that Bidens ratings is not so good. Not since 1945 have a President got so low ratings.

But Reagan, Bush(X2)Trump had lower, this was however a lot later in their presidency they got this low ratings.

Markus

[Rockstar]

From the news here I understand that Bidens ratings is not so good. Not since 1945 have a President got so low ratings.

But Reagan, Bush(X2)Trump had lower, this was however a lot later in their presidency they got this low ratings.

Markus

The ratings no longer matter, the DNC already said they will not support another Biden presidency because as Axlerod said: “He’s too old”

He’s been muttering about going to war with China over Taiwan, boasting of regime change in Russia, and now seems unaware we’ve been preparing Ukraine’s military for the last eight years. Everyone with half a brain knew from the beginning he was too old and feeble minded.

[Skybird]

And yet both Harris and Trump would have been worse.


Oh - wait: you dont mean you wanted - Pelosi...? :O:

[Rockstar]

And yet both Harris and Trump would have been worse.


Oh - wait: you dont mean you wanted - Pelosi...? :O:




Who knows, it could of have been Sanders for two terms, can only imagine what might have happened afterwards. But we saw how the DNC handled his initial bid. They took a big dump on ol' Bernie told him and his constituency to pack sand how dare they the Party Knows whats best, you don't. So along comes Hillary which prompted a big oh hell no by Democrats and Republicans alike and got us Trump. :)
Anyway, I'm waiting for the announcement of the next contenders with bated breath. Maybe DeSantis, I'd vote for him.

[August]

I would like to see a younger person as POTUS. Preferably somebody who served in the military at some point, but not a retired general or a spy or a former director of a Federal letter agency. Someone with leadership or executive experience outside of government.

[mapuc]

I would like to see a younger person as POTUS. Preferably somebody who served in the military at some point, but not a retired general or a spy or a former director of a Federal letter agency. Someone with leadership or executive experience outside of government.

Then use your vote and vote for one of these next time your having an Presidential election-There are more candidate than the one Rep and Dem put up.

I have never understood the voters-They complain about their politician and what are they doing ? They put their vote on same politician or party.

Markus

[Ostfriese]

Anyway, I'm waiting for the announcement of the next contenders with bated breath. Maybe DeSantis, I'd vote for him.


Isn't that the hypocrite from Florida?

[Rockstar]

Isn't that the hypocrite from Florida?

What makes him a hypocrite?

[August]

Then use your vote and vote for one of these next time your having an Presidential election-There are more candidate than the one Rep and Dem put up.

I have never understood the voters-They complain about their politician and what are they doing ? They put their vote on same politician or party.

Markus


Not sure what you mean Markus, I often vote for independent candidates when they run. I just posted what attributes I want to see in a POTUS candidate. But that doesn't mean the people that I want to vote for will appear on the ballot.

[mapuc]

Not sure what you mean Markus, I often vote for independent candidates when they run. I just posted what attributes I want to see in a POTUS candidate. But that doesn't mean the people that I want to vote for will appear on the ballot.

Sorry my mistake.

Does your type of candidate have to been in the military ?

Markus

[Ostfriese]

What makes him a hypocrite?


Just about everything.

[nikimcbee]

I would like to see a younger person as POTUS. Preferably somebody who served in the military at some point, but not a retired general or a spy or a former director of a Federal letter agency. Someone with leadership or executive experience outside of government.


Amen to the age issue. I'm a fan of former Govs, NOT Senators, in principle. IMO, we've had a horrible selection of candidates. Kinda tired of picking the lesser of 2 evils.

[August]

Amen to the age issue. I'm a fan of former Govs, NOT Senators, in principle. IMO, we've had a horrible selection of candidates. Kinda tired of picking the lesser of 2 evils.


Yeah, Legislators are NOT leaders imo, they are Legislators, a completely different type of job requiring a much different skill set.

[Rockstar]

A record-high 50% of Americans rate the overall state of moral values in the U.S. as "poor," and another 37% say it is "only fair." Just 1% think the state of moral values is "excellent" and 12% "good."

https://news.gallup.com/poll/393659/record-high-americans-rate-moral-values-poor.aspx


Meanwhile.....

Nancy Pelosi Appears On RuPaul's Drag Race: "Yourselves In Drag Is What America Is All About"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/06/13/nancy_pelosi_appears_on_rupauls_drag_race_drag_is_ what_america_is_all_about.html :har:

[Rockstar]

Now we know why the DNC put Biden on the ballot. He's a defenseless old man easily taken advantage of even by his own crackhead son and will do whatever he's told!

https://youtu.be/zbEzcqBH1rU

[Rockstar]

The Bizzarro World of Democrats

https://youtu.be/Py6EgxznXaA

[ET2SN]

Meanwhile..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9YrPe2Vr84


:hmmm:

[Otto Harkaman]

Oh thank goodness, I was worried!

Kamala Harris announces launch of White House ‘task force’ to stop online ‘gendered disinformation,’ abuse

[MaDef]

Oh thank goodness, I was worried!

Kamala Harris announces launch of White House ‘task force’ to stop online ‘gendered disinformation,’ abuse

That's one way to exacerbate an issue, put Her in charge of it.

[Rockstar]

Meanwhile..



:hmmm:


Meanwhile what? It's almost a three hour video how about a summary. If someone did something against the law then let justice be swift and served not politicized and dragged out to the point of absurdity. I got through about 3 minutes and thought it should be filed with flat earth, Atlantis and alien conspiracy theories.

[ET2SN]

Meanwhile what? It's almost a three hour video how about a summary. If someone did something against the law then let justice be swift and served not politicized and dragged out to the point of absurdity. I got through about 3 minutes and thought it should be filed with flat earth, Atlantis and alien conspiracy theories.

Obviously, there was nothing to see here, and just as obviously, nothing to be worried about. Just an OG Conservative with sour grapes. :yep:



:o

[Rockstar]

Obviously you couldn't make past the 3 minute mark either. Thanks for stopping though.:03:

[ET2SN]

You're right, I should post something easier to digest. :03:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6q76uw5i4o

[mapuc]

Does it exist a party called Republican Demokrats
A Party who has taken the best from both parties ?

Markus

[Rockstar]

Does it exist a party called Republican Demokrats
A Party who has taken the best from both parties ?

Markus

Personally I think there are plenty of people in this country that have a mind of their own. We have a current president that said at the outset nothing will fundamentally change if he gets elected, his crackhead son who takes advantage of his elderly father, rising inflation, rising unemployment, lay-offs, low wages if you’re lucky enough to have a job, rising uncertainty, the fact we are in a recession, and a market ready to collapse which of course will be followed with bail-outs for them as us peons suffer through it. And the only thing presented by one party this election season seems to be: “ya but what about Trump”? It gets old and I think, god I hope, a lot of people see through it.

I think some here have already discussed who they would like to see as a candidate, nobody except butt-hurt democrats mention Trump. Wait I take that back, though none don’t seem to here, there are many butt-hurt conservatives who thought Trump was railroaded by Democrats just like many butt-hurt Democrats thought Sanders got railroaded by Democrats.

Anyone still stupid enough here waiting for all the promised low hanging fruit, Michael Cohen, and Adam Schiff to give their evidence they claimed to have from the last two kangaroo courts, any day now right? Here we are again with another special committee and subpoenas galore and after a year and half of pissing away my tax dollar absolutely nothing but memes, bombast, kubuki theatre, heresay, and clickbait. If there was any wrong doing then like I said let justice be swift and served up. Instead justice gets politicized turned into a show for political and personal gain, justice is a joke just an excuse for another political boondoggle.

IMO it’s just another conspiracy theory in keeping with the highest traditions of aliens, Sasquatch and flat earthers.

[Rockstar]

I figure there’s got to be a glimmer of hope if someone from across the pond can see the Kabuki theatre too.

https://youtu.be/k2jsA3sk2H0

[Skybird]

Comment by the Neue Zürcher Zeitung. My view as well.

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Trump has put the life of his own vice president at risk. If he gets away with it, American democracy is in jeopardy.

Hearings on storming the Capitol show: Donald Trump gambled with Mike Pence's life to stay in power by force.

Did Donald Trump commit a crime on Jan. 6, 2021, when hundreds of his supporters stormed the Capitol in Washington? For nearly a year, a nine-member House committee has been investigating that question. It has interviewed more than 1,000 witnesses and collected 140,000 documents. It is currently presenting its key findings to Americans in several public hearings. The third hearing on Thursday focused on what was probably the decisive episode: how the American president put his Vice President Mike Pence under massive pressure for days to either prevent the certification of his election defeat in Congress on January 6 or even make him the winner himself.

For Liz Cheney, the vice chair of the investigative commission, Trump clearly committed a crime: "What the president demanded of his vice president was not only wrong. It was illegal and unconstitutional." The reconstruction of events at the time seems to support this assessment. Pence, his staff and also legal advisers in the White House told Trump as early as December 2020 that the vice president of the United States had no legal authority to reject the election results of individual constituent states. But the president would not hear of it.

Trump trusted the theory of a single law professor until the very end: John Eastman. The constitutional lawyer claimed that the vice president had the power to either reject for review or even annul "disputed election results" from individual constituent states. Trump reiterated this theory in the Jan. 6 speech to his supporters in Washington, saying, "If Mike Pence does the right thing, we win. All he has to do is reject the results back to the states for a new certification, and I'll be president and you'll be the happiest people."

Apparently, however, Eastman himself did not believe in his theory. Two days before the storming of the Capitol, Eastman admitted in Trump's presence that such a move would be against the law, Greg Jacob, the then-vice president's legal adviser, testified before the investigative commission Thursday. For Pence himself, the illegality was instinctively clear, Jacob said. "It would never have occurred to the founding fathers of the United States, who abhorred the concentration of power and had shaken off British tyranny, to give one person decisive influence over the outcome of an election."

Jacob had repeated discussions with Eastman in the two days before the storming of the Capitol. In the process, he said, Eastman also admitted that the Supreme Court would shoot down his theory by a 9-0 vote if it had to address it. Jacob also reminded Eastman of the 2000 presidential election, when Democratic Vice President Al Gore lost to George W. Bush on the basis of an extremely controversial election result in Florida. "Should Gore have had the authority to declare himself president at that time?" asked Jacob. "Of course not," Eastman reportedly replied.

Eric Herschmann, a lawyer in Trump's White House, also warned Eastman against violence. The millions of voters who had voted for Biden would not stand for the action he advised: "You're going to cause riots in the streets with this."
"The Proud Boys Would Have Killed Pence"

Still, Eastman and Trump did not let go of their idea. On the morning of Jan. 6, the furious president called his vice president a "weakling" and a "pussy" in a phone call, according to ear witnesses. After his supporters had already advanced to the Capitol, Trump added fuel to the fire with a tweet: "Pence didn't have the guts to do what he should have."

The vice president thus became the central target of the violence-prone mob. "Pence betrayed us," "Hang Mike Pence," or "Pence, we're coming for you," Trump supporters chanted. When the vice president fled to a safe room in the basement of the Capitol, individual rioters were only 13 meters away from him. Among the attackers were members of the militant Proud Boys. One informant told the FBI, "The Proud Boys would have killed Pence if they had the opportunity."

Further hearings are still scheduled for next week, and the investigations by the commission of inquiry will continue thereafter. But it already seems clear that Trump bears a great deal of responsibility for the violence on January 6, 2021, which cannot go unpunished in a democratic constitutional state. Hundreds of Capitol strikers have already been arrested, charged and in some cases sentenced to prison. For justice to be served, the instigator of this movement would also have to be held accountable.

However, it would fall to Attorney General Merrick Garland to initiate criminal proceedings against Trump. Because the Republicans refused to politically condemn their president in impeachment proceedings a year and a half ago, however, Garland has only a choice between two evils: If he allows the former president to go on trial, this could lead to major political upheavals and possibly new violence. If he refrains from doing so, the foundations of the American constitutional state would be shaken.

The first evil seems to be the lesser one. Had Pence obeyed his president, it would have amounted to "a revolution in the context of a constitutional crisis," former federal judge Michael Luttig told the investigative commission Thursday. The conservative judge was once appointed by George W. Bush and even considered a Supreme Court nominee. Because Trump has remained recalcitrant to this day, Luttig believes similar scenarios to 2020 could repeat themselves in the 2024 presidential election. "Donald Trump, his allies and his supporters are a clear and present danger to American democracy."

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (http://www.DeepL.com/Translator) (free version)


Trump must be sentenced and punished. If Americans let this coup attempt go through, America has already buried its democratic system and the idea that the founding fathers once had build upon. Everything America claims to stand for, would only be a lie if Trump stays unharmed. He must face the punishement for his crime.

[Rockstar]

https://youtu.be/sA5d2ErNe-g

[em2nought]

https://youtu.be/sA5d2ErNe-g

We've got Elon to tackle space now so NASA might as well do something else. :D

[Rockstar]

Biden’s Department of Homeland Security to begin construction of border fence. But this is a tax payer funded border fence around his private beach home in Delaware.

https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70US0921C70090071_7009_-NONE-_-NONE-


On a side note Finland is building a massive border wall between themselves and Russia to keep out asylum seekers, refugees and illegal immigrants.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-plans-build-barriers-its-border-with-russia-2022-06-09/

[August]

Biden’s Department of Homeland Security to begin construction of border fence. But this is a tax payer funded border fence around his private beach home in Delaware.

https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70US0921C70090071_7009_-NONE-_-NONE-


Half a million dollars it's costing us. :nope:

[Rockstar]

Half a million dollars it's costing us. :nope:

Don’t forget the 2 million or so dollars and counting, of taxpayer money Democrats are pissing away for another one of their political kubuki theatre boondoggles. I mean fer chrissakes I’m still waiting for Micheal Cohen, Michael Flynn and all the low hanging fruit from the last two boondoggles to fess up. Oh, and let’s not forget all the evidence Adam Schiff and his Schiffettes are about to release. Any day now, RIGHT!? :har::har::har::har::har::har:

I’m beginning to think it was all a big sham. :D