US Politics Thread 2021-24

[mapuc]

Your reaction to this accusation ?


Vladimir Putin exploited Donald Trump’s “ego and insecurities” to exert an almost mesmeric hold over the former US president, who refused to entertain any negative evaluation of the autocratic Russian leader from his own staff, and ultimately fired his national security adviser, HR McMaster, over it.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/aug/21/trump-putin-hr-mcmaster-memoir

Markus

[Rockstar]

Your reaction to this accusation ?



https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/aug/21/trump-putin-hr-mcmaster-memoir

Markus

British state run tabloid news, expect nonsense. Belongs in U.K. politics thread with the rest of the tabloid trash its their news paper directed at their home audience. Let them discuss it.

[mapuc]

British state run tabloid news, expect nonsense. Belongs in U.K. politics thread with the rest of the tabloid trash its their news paper directed at their home audience. Let them discuss it.

Well sorry then I thought since the article was about Trump it belonged here in our US Politics Thread.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Well sorry then I thought since the article was about Trump it belonged here in our US Politics Thread.

Markus

It’s directed at British audiences. Since nobody here in U.S. reads or subscribes British tabloid news I can’t imagine why it would be of interest anyone here. We got enough b.s. in our own domestic media to sift through.

It really has nothing to do with Trump. Articles like that are meant for one thing and that’s to sell the book.

[Buddahaid]

RFK Jr. is expected to drop out of the running and endorse Trump tomorrow. Hard to say if that's good, or bad, for Trump.:hmmm:

[Rockstar]

For Markus


https://youtu.be/id1BFbKa3wc

[August]

RFK Jr. is expected to drop out of the running and endorse Trump tomorrow. Hard to say if that's good, or bad, for Trump.:hmmm:


So in other words you hope that it's bad but you're concerned it might just be good.

[Buddahaid]

So in other words you hope that it's bad but you're concerned it might just be good.

No, it’s not clear what RFL Jr’s voter base will do. They already aren’t voting for Trump and may just write someone else, or vote for Harris instead of Trump.

[AVGWarhawk]

RFK Jr. is expected to drop out of the running and endorse Trump tomorrow. Hard to say if that's good, or bad, for Trump.:hmmm:

The media is supposed to be The People's Watchdog.
After Woodward and Bernstein followed the story wherever it went, they took down a Republican President.
And the Liberals realized the way to affect the change they want, is by controlling the media, from the inside.
We are now in the third generation of activist journalism, and the media is now The Democrats' Lapdog.

And there it is Budda. Doesn't matter who is doing what. The Dems control the media. The media does its show like poodles at the circus. Harris is the anointed one and the media is damn sure you know it. The Dems forced out Kennedy. The media ignored Kennedy at the direction of the DNC. It's all about power.

[Buddahaid]

The for profit media marches to the almighty dollar as they see fit. Maybe the Fairness Act needs to be reenacted.

[AVGWarhawk]

The for profit media marches to the almighty Democrats as directed

There. Fixed.

[AVGWarhawk]

No, it’s not clear what RFL Jr’s voter base will do. They already aren’t voting for Trump and may just write someone else, or vote for Harris instead of Trump.

Word is RFK will endorse Trump. A FU to the media served up by RFK. He and his running mate know Harris is not qualified. No one really knows what his base is going to do. I can say from those I know that liked RFK will probably sit this one out.

[Buddahaid]

Word is RFK will endorse Trump. A FU to the media served up by RFK. He and his running mate know Harris is not qualified. No one really knows what his base is going to do. I can say from those I know that liked RFK will probably sit this one out.

What FU? He was hoping for 5% so in 2028 he’d be on ballots automatically. Did you hear the conversation between RFK Jr. and Trump that RFK Jr’s son recorded? Trump was offering a position if Jr. dropped out and endorsed him. Jr. was noncommittal and later put out feelers to Harris. There was no deal. I agree Jr’s voters will likely not vote or write in someone else.

[AVGWarhawk]

What FU? He was hoping for 5% so in 2028 he’d be on ballots automatically. Did you hear the conversation between RFK Jr. and Trump that RFK Jr’s son recorded? Trump was offering a position if Jr. dropped out and endorsed him. Jr. was noncommittal and later put out feelers to Harris. There was no deal. I agree Jr’s voters will likely not vote or write in someone else.

Yes, I heard Trump offered a position. He is considering it. But that should tell you something. At the moment RFK is suing the Biden administration for censorship. He is not a Biden fan and definitely does not like Harris.

[Buddahaid]

That suit is going nowhere and is flawed in its premise. It’s the old crap asserting Biden forced censorship on social media over COVID vaccine misinformation by notifying said media about the misinformation. RFK Jr. was not a candidate in 2021 when he brought the suit.

[AVGWarhawk]

That suit is going nowhere and is flawed in its premise. It’s the old crap asserting Biden forced censorship on social media over COVID vaccine misinformation by notifying said media about the misinformation. RFK Jr. was not a candidate in 2021 when he brought the suit.

Must not be flawed if the suit is moving forward. And the suit was started May 2024. It has nothing to do with COVID and misinformation on social media. RFK is not an idiot.

[Buddahaid]

Must not be flawed if the suit is moving forward. And the suit was started May 2024. It has nothing to do with COVID and misinformation on social media. RFK is not an idiot.

Don’t know that one unless it’s his suit against Meta platforms in CA, not Biden.

[AVGWarhawk]

Don’t know that one unless it’s his suit against Meta platforms in CA, not Biden.

Feb 2024 against Biden's administration. Recently Meta.

[Buddahaid]

Ah, this one. Still against Meta but I'll look into it.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/rfk-jr-super-pac-sue-meta-claiming-election-interference-2024-05-13/

The 9th Circuit just ruled against his older Meta suit on August 9th.
https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2024/08/09/21-16210.pdf

[Jimbuna]

Report: Multiple Secret Service agents on leave after Trump shooting

Multiple Secret Service agents have been put on leave during the investigation into the Donald Trump assassination attempt, a report suggests. The agent in charge of the Pittsburgh field officers is one of those involved.

The shooting of the former president on July 13 in Butler, Pennsylvania , has sparked multiple probes that are ongoing. Republican Rep. Mike Waltz told DailyMail.com earlier this week that he wasn't convinced the would-be assassin acted alone.

He said the gunman's motivation is still unknown and he is worried a foreign entity or other third party could have been involved in the attack. Waltz queried how federal law enforcement can confidently say Crooks was a lone wolf if they can't answer other questions like why he had multiple foreign encrypted messaging accounts.

His comments came after it was revealed that Iran was also plotting an attempt on the former president's life around the same time that Crooks carried out his plan. 'The more we get into it, the more questions I have,' Waltz said. 'It's really what's coming out around it that is so disturbing.

'And for me, the thing that's most disturbing is that we have ongoing plots from Iran to take out a former president, leading candidate, and that a Pakistani national was just arrested after making a down payment for hitmen, and it's barely even being covered in the news.' Crooks, 20, was able to create multiple explosives with remote detonators, another thing that raised Waltz's eyebrows and makes him wonder whether he had help.

As the FBI, U.S. Secret Service (USSS) and Department of Homeland Security conduct their investigations into the massive security failure, Waltz and 12 other lawmakers on a House task force are also looking into the attempted assassination. 'I don't understand, and I don't have any answers yet to help me understand how the [Secret] Service and DHS came out so quickly and said – and I think the FBI as well, but I'll have to check that – and said, he operated alone,' Waltz said when speaking with DailyMail.com at Trump Tower in Chicago on Wednesday. 'How do you know that mere days into your investigation?'

The Florida congressman added: 'You can't tell us his motive, but you could tell us he operated alone? You can't get into these encrypted overseas accounts, but you can tell us he acted alone? So, I don't buy that yet.' Crooks was shot and killed by the Secret Service after he launched an attack at Trump's rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on July 13.

A bullet fired from his AR-style weapon, bought legally by his father, grazed the former president's right ear. Crooks killed one rally-goer and critically injured two others before he was taken out. The FBI also found explosives in Crooks' car, which was parked near the rally site. And upon raiding his parents' house, where he lived, they found more bombs.

'I don't know of many 19-year-old kids who could make multiple IEDs with a remote detonator on their own,' Waltz told DailyMail.com. 'Why didn't that get picked up if he's searching that online or buying literature on how to do that?'
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/report-multiple-secret-service-agents-on-leave-after-trump-shooting/ss-AA1pjZ4x?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=bb040ab3919045df8c8511765eb56b40&ei=44#image=1

[AVGWarhawk]

Ah, this one. Still against Meta but I'll look into it.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/rfk-jr-super-pac-sue-meta-claiming-election-interference-2024-05-13/

The 9th Circuit just ruled against his older Meta suit on August 9th.
https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2024/08/09/21-16210.pdf

It does appear to have some traction. Kennedy endorsed Trump.

[mapuc]

Lately Kennedy tells his followers to put their vote on Trump. He is not the only one who have said this. Many of the Rep. candidate have given their support to Trump.

Is it the same when it Comes to Harris ? I haven't heard any Dem. politicians telling their supporters to vote on Harris.

Polls: Here there is a difference who is broadcasting it, while some polls shown in one American news show Trump in lead, other American news are showing Harris in lead.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Biden's speech was so full of lies even CNN is calling him out. What has the world coming to???


https://youtu.be/t3jie8pk6yI?si=H_AreJ31h7uGfVhH

[Buddahaid]

Biden's speech was so full of lies even CNN is calling him out. What has the world coming to???

Politicians, let's say, stretching the point is as old as the word politician in any language in all of recorded history. :ping:

[AVGWarhawk]

Politicians, let's say, stretching the point is as old as the word politician in any language in all of recorded history. :ping:

A tactful way of saying, "He lied.". 😂. The politicians lie. The media lies. I have no idea what to believe any longer.

[Buddahaid]

A tactful way of saying, "He lied.". 😂. The politicians lie. The media lies. I have no idea what to believe any longer.

I'll never lie to you, trust me. :haha:

[Rockstar]

RFK and stagecraft…


https://youtu.be/F746FWYIp34

[Buddahaid]

Well, I was going to say the RFK Jr. speech was a confusing mess of nonsense. :haha:

[Buddahaid]

HV4H channeling Haley voters to Harris.
https://www.haleyvotersforharris.org/

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, I was going to say the RFK Jr. speech was a confusing mess of nonsense. :haha:

Nevertheless, the Democratic party is so corrupt even a Kennedy is voting for Trump.

[Ostfriese]

Nevertheless, the Democratic party is so corrupt even a Kennedy is voting for Trump.


Almost as corrupt as the Republicans, I bet.

[AVGWarhawk]

Almost as corrupt as the Republicans, I bet.

No. The Democrats have far surpassed what Republicans have done.

[Buddahaid]

No. The Democrats have far surpassed what Republicans have done.

Debatable, but at least they're not trying to elect a convicted felon and sex offender who runs a company that is also a convicted felon.

[AVGWarhawk]

Debatable, but at least they're not trying to elect a convicted felon and sex offender who runs a company that is also a convicted felon.

Sorry. The amount of corruption in the Democratic party makes Trump look like he got caught shoplifting a pack of gum. Sex offender? The Democratic party is rife with them. 😂😂

[Buddahaid]

Sorry. The amount of corruption in the Democratic party makes Trump look like he got caught shoplifting a pack of gum. Sex offender? The Democratic party is rife with them. 😂😂

I can back up what I said with court convictions that Republicans are trying to elect a felon to the Presidency. We can trade other findings in the past like Clinton and Nixon, or more current ones like Menendez and Santos, but the fact remains Republicans want to elect a felon.

[August]

I can back up what I said with court convictions that Republicans are trying to elect a felon to the Presidency. We can trade other findings in the past like Clinton and Nixon, or more current ones like Menendez and Santos, but the fact remains Republicans want to elect a felon.


Felon according to the Democrats that is. Well over half the American population see the "conviction" as the politically motivated charade that it really was, and I think so will the Appeals Court when they toss that tainted conviction out, leaving you and your party without a talking point.


You've made him a political prisoner and I think he's going to ride that right back to the White House. :salute:

[Jimbuna]

'Trump is unfit': Fox News publishes mass-GOP endorsement for Kamala Harris

Agroup of powerful Republicans with decades of service in Washington D.C. have thrown their support behind Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential campaign, the conservative network Fox News was first to report.

Twelve White House lawyers who represented former presidents Ronald Reagan's, George H.W. Bush's and George W. Bush's administrations endorsed Harris over former President Donald Trump, whom they dubbed a danger to the nation.

"We endorse Kamala Harris and support her election as President because we believe that returning former President Trump to office would threaten American democracy and undermine the rule of law in our country," the lawyers wrote in a letter obtained by Fox News.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-is-unfit-fox-news-publishes-mass-gop-endorsement-for-kamala-harris/ar-AA1pkolN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=6546459eb664406fa56e312f5365c156&ei=14

[Buddahaid]

Felon according to the Democrats that is. Well over half the American population see the "conviction" as the politically motivated charade that it really was, and I think so will the Appeals Court when they toss that tainted conviction out, leaving you and your party without a talking point.


You've made him a political prisoner and I think he's going to ride that right back to the White House. :salute:

Felon according to the laws and a sex offender according to a jury of his peers. The only reason there was no jury in the business fraud case was because Trump hired a lawyer that didn't know what she was doing, and the appeal will fail because it's based on common fraud law instead of New York Executive Law § 63(12).

He's no political prisoner, he's just a common white-collar thief.

[AVGWarhawk]

I can back up what I said with court convictions that Republicans are trying to elect a felon to the Presidency. We can trade other findings in the past like Clinton and Nixon, or more current ones like Menendez and Santos, but the fact remains Republicans want to elect a felon.


You can back up all you like. Total political hit job. You simply decide not to see it. Once again, the Democrats with power are really just thugs and will do anything to keep power. You simply sidestep Kennedy like he means nothing. A family that is the very definition of what a Democrat stands for. Today's Democratic party is unrecognizable.

Hush money? Gasp! Stormy should give it back. She didn't stay silent. Falsification of business records? Gasp! It happens all the time. The only difference is it is Trump. A threat to the Democratic machine. Anyone else it never would have gone to court.

For your reading enjoyment. An awful lot of Ds after the names of these sex offenders:

https://apnews.com/article/a3377d14856e4f4fb584509963a7a223

[August]

RFK Jr. Exits Race, Endorses Trump: In The Name Of Saving Democracy, The Democratic Party Is Dismantling It
Posted By Tim Hains (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/authors/tim_hains)
On Date August 23, 2024

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy suspended his campaign and endorsed Donald Trump on Friday during a speech in Arizona.

"In an honest system, I believe I would have won the election," Kennedy said. "I am sorry to say that while democracy may still be alive at the grassroots level, it has become little more than a slogan for our political institutions, our media, and our government -- and most of all, for the Democratic Party."

"In the name of saving democracy, the Democratic Party set itself to dismantling it."

"The DNC deployed aligned judges to throw me and other candidates off the ballot and to throw President Trump in jail. It ran a sham primary that was rigged to prevent any serious challenge to President Biden. Then, when a predictably bungled debate performance precipitated the palace coup against President Biden, the same shadowy DNC operatives appointed his successor, also without an election. They installed a candidate who was so unpopular with voters that she dropped out in 2020 without winning a single delegate," Kennedy continued.







https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/08/23/watch_live_independent_candidate_robert_f_kennedy_ expected_to_exit_presidential_race_rumor_he_may_en dorse_trump.html?utm_source=rcp-today&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mailchimp-newsletter&utm_content=Front%20Page%20Module&mc_cid=55af5bbaa7&mc_eid=11fa7b6760

[August]

Felon according to the laws and a sex offender according to a jury of his peers. The only reason there was no jury in the business fraud case was because Trump hired a lawyer that didn't know what she was doing, and the appeal will fail because it's based on common fraud law instead of New York Executive Law § 63(12).

He's no political prisoner, he's just a common white-collar thief.

According to a politicaly motivated, twisted and unconstitutional partisan interpretation of the laws you mean.

Side stepping the statute of limitations by applying a multiple choice of unproven accusations all of which were kept hidden from the defense during the trial, coupled with instructions to the jury by an obviously biased Judge that were clearly improper.

We'll see about the appeal.


Meanwhile:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeGZwkgfLUY

[AVGWarhawk]

Thankfully we will be unburdened by the Biden administration. Kamala Harris. Oh...and price gauging.

https://youtube.com/shorts/sBHZ9hZYLYQ?si=KwWUeD3wqQ7-y3dx

[Skybird]

i put this in here, it may be more relevant for us politics than in the health thread.
many may not know enough about the background to not conclude he is on a conspiracy theory trip. i would not be so certain of that.

https://youtu.be/5vPSjp-ykgM?si=pbutydwDbP9sTbOY

[Rockstar]

i put this in here, it may be more relevant for us politics than in the health thread.
many may not know enough about the background to not conclude he is on a conspiracy theory trip. i would not be so certain of that.

https://youtu.be/5vPSjp-ykgM?si=pbutydwDbP9sTbOY

“When somebody was obese they were sent to the circus”. :har::har::har::har: TRUTH!

Honestly, I would put RFK in charge of the DOJ like his dad was.

[Buddahaid]

What's the state of the polls as of two days ago?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/presidential-polling-averages/

[Rockstar]

What are the reasons why people vote the way they do?

[Buddahaid]

What are the reasons why people vote the way they do?

You tell me. :haha: I'm not touching that one.

[Rockstar]

I’m guessing stagecraft.

[Buddahaid]

For the low information non-political junkies that only take an interest in the last ninety days? Likely.

[Skybird]

“When somebody was obese they were sent to the circus”. :har::har::har::har: TRUTH!

Honestly, I would put RFK in charge of the DOJ like his dad was.
why not letting him lose on what he says is heavy on his heart, the fight against pandemic chronic desease. he is no opportunist regarding health topics, but he is on it since decades. and you can easily hear that in his words.

[Gorpet]

I may be living a dream but you appear to live in a fear driven fever.

No, i don't live in fear, And if your dream is living,In cali and now you are stuck there and life is going to become a bad dream.Why would you leave Utopia ?

[AVGWarhawk]

What's the state of the polls as of two days ago?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/presidential-polling-averages/

Depends on what polls one is watching. Not all media is created alike.

[Gorpet]

No, i don't live in fear, And if your dream is living,In cali and now you are stuck there and life is going to become a bad dream.Why would you leave Utopia ?

What the hell is going on with Wendy ? Wendy why are you, so european ?

[Buddahaid]

No, i don't live in fear, And if your dream is living,In cali and now you are stuck there and life is going to become a bad dream.Why would you leave Utopia ?

I was born in CA as was my mother and her mother and I'm not stuck there. The rest of what you said makes no sense.

[Buddahaid]

What the hell is going on with Wendy ? Wendy why are you, so european ?

Wendy O. Williams?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzEXbPgdOJc

[Gorpet]

'Trump is unfit': Fox News publishes mass-GOP endorsement for Kamala Harris

Well Jimbo, It seems that Starmer is also unfit.Yes the UK is in more turmoil.

[Reece]

I think the world is in turmoil. :k_confused:

[Gorpet]

Wendy O. Williams?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzEXbPgdOJc

Yes, I think she could, Stop from the river to the sea.What do you think?

[Buddahaid]

I think the world is in turmoil. :k_confused:

Whenever has it not been in turmoil?

[Buddahaid]

Yes, I think she could, Stop from the river to the sea.What do you think?

I think I need an interpreter.

[Gorpet]

I think I need an interpreter.

As we would say down here in the South of the USA. It's all good.

[Buddahaid]

"Federalist Society and conservative icon and lifelong Republican Judge Luttig has just given his full-throated endorsement of Kamala Harris, calling the Democratic Party the only true protector of the flame of democracy in America."

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22061497/jml-final.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYy1DAA67cA

[Gorpet]

I think the world is in turmoil. :k_confused:

Yes, it is and if your country is a NATO member. Well ya know NATO members have never turn down an Invasion.Holy **** they have to follow the American politicians.Their lives and the people they represent depend on The Americans.

The best brains of their countries can't , get off the welfare and the money the politicians of the United States has to offer. And it will always be for Democracy.
It must be for Democracy. If the government can't take care of you. At this stage of human evolution. There has to be those who have guided you from the past to today. And those of us who believe in science. Will guide you to the future and JOY and more JOY.If you believe in joy then joy you shall receive.

Americans, Vote Kamala for JOY :up: And when the fireball erupt.We can have Joy. Kamala, Kamala ,yes the First African Indian White to unite the world in a fireball.

who is re editing my post ?

[Reece]

Now how could I possibly add to that, Joy to the world!! :haha:

[Gorpet]

"Federalist Society and conservative icon and lifelong Republican Judge Luttig has just given his full-throated endorsement of Kamala Harris, calling the Democratic Party the only true protector of the flame of democracy in America."

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22061497/jml-final.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYy1DAA67cA

The Federalists were in favor of a strong central government. They believed in the formation of a national bank and wanted the economy to be based on manufacturing, foreign trade, and commerce. They also believed that wealthy property owners were the best fit to govern the country.

Oh damn, Is this what you advocate today? Are you a country club Federalists ?

[Gorpet]

Now how could I possibly add to that, Joy to the world!! :haha:

Well ,It seems that there was an old song Joy to the World and the fishes in the sea.I don't think i will give my sons up to fight and die for a word called Democracy.No i will not, When the Politicians son's and daughters stand for their parents belief and they are willing to lead the charge.And i know they are on the front and their dead body comes back home.Then it's RAh RAH and we will kill them all.

[August]

"Federalist Society and conservative icon and lifelong Republican Judge Luttig has just given his full-throated endorsement of Kamala Harris, calling the Democratic Party the only true protector of the flame of democracy in America."


Never heard of him. Is he another fake republican like you guys keep inventing?

[Gorpet]

[QUOTE=Gorpet;2923658]Well ,It seems that there was an old song Joy to the World and the fishes in the sea.I don't think i will give my sons up to fight and die for a word called Democracy.No i will not, When the Politicians son's and daughters stand for their parents belief and they are willing to lead the charge.And i know they are on the front and their dead body comes back home.Then it's RAh RAH and we will kill them all.

[Gorpet]

Well ,It seems that there was an old song Joy to the World and the fishes in the sea.I don't think i will give my sons up to fight and die for a word called Democracy.No i will not, When the Politicians son's and daughters stand for their parents belief and they are willing to lead the charge.And i know they are on the front and their dead body comes back home.Then it's RAh RAH and we will kill them all.

Well it seems that Neals,Wendy will not.Put everything you type in a post. see the above. that's not all of my response.And ya know what if this neals new wendy.and you will be edited and censored.And misconstrued well i have just got to go and buy a camel.

[Buddahaid]

Never heard of him. Is he another fake republican like you guys keep inventing?

You appear to be getting desperate.
https://www.fjc.gov/history/judges/luttig-j-michael
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_interest/election_law/american-democracy//our-work/

[Jimbuna]

Well Jimbo, It seems that Starmer is also unfit.Yes the UK is in more turmoil.

I'd certainly agree with you regarding Starmer.

[AVGWarhawk]

"Federalist Society and conservative icon and lifelong Republican Judge Luttig has just given his full-throated endorsement of Kamala Harris, calling the Democratic Party the only true protector of the flame of democracy in America."



As Dems install Kamala without a single vote. That is not democracy. I guess if Dems keep saying it it's true. Similar to OJ Simpson saying he's innocent.

[Buddahaid]

As Dems install Kamala without a single vote. That is not democracy. I guess if Dems keep saying it it's true. Similar to OJ Simpson saying he's innocent.

Now you sound desperate.

1. There is nothing in the Constitution that dictates, or describes, how a political party chooses its candidate for President.

2. This candidate will be on state ballots and voted for, or against, to certify electors for that state.

3. A lot of Republicans emphasize the US is a Republic and not a Democracy. Well, the representatives (delegates) of the Democratic Party being confronted with Biden’s withdrawal and no time to organize new State primaries before the DNC, represented Democrats and voted for a new candidate.

4. Do you honestly think if Trump had been killed, or incapacitated, the Republican Party would start over with new primaries? I don’t, and I seriously doubt it could even get behind another candidate as quickly as the Democratic Party did with such glaring factional differences so eloquently displayed by the House speaker troubles and complete lack of being able to govern.

[AVGWarhawk]

Now you sound desperate.

1. There is nothing in the Constitution that dictates, or describes, how a political party chooses its candidate for President.

2. This candidate will be on state ballots and voted for, or against, to certify electors for that state.

3. A lot of Republicans emphasize the US is a Republic and not a Democracy. Well, the representatives (delegates) of the Democratic Party being confronted with Biden’s withdrawal and no time to organize new State primaries before the DNC, represented Democrats and voted for a new candidate.
4. Do you honestly think if Trump had been killed, or incapacitated, the Republican Party would start over with new primaries? I don’t, and I seriously doubt it could even get behind another candidate as quickly as the Democratic Party did with such glaring factional differences so eloquently displayed by the House speaker troubles and complete lack of being able to govern.

1. Why bother with primaries? A vote at all? It's called the Democratic way.

2. ?

3. We are a Republic

4. Understand the Democrats staged the entire affair. They knew Joe was not up to it. This went on for well over 2 years. You fail to recognize this. You accept the deception, lies and cover up. This indicates to me you would accept everything fed to you by the Democratic party.

The world of what ifs Trump was killed, only conjecture what would occur. Not having anyone in the wings like VP to prop up a vote would have to take place. Republicans certainly would not install a blooming idiot. But blooming idiots are easy to control. Something Democrats in power like.

[Buddahaid]

...Republicans certainly would not install a blooming idiot...

But that's exactly what you are doing and a criminal one as well.

[AVGWarhawk]

But that's exactly what you are doing and a criminal one as well.

Our political system has been broken for decades, but you have to deal with the system you have, not the one you want. The insiders in the political system have fought Trump ever since he announced his first Presidential campaign. A lot of his policies were good from day one, but many were fought by the political insiders all four years of his Presidency, so many things never got accomplished that should have. You can dislike his style and not like some things about him personally, and still see that he is a far better choice as President than a failed universally disliked VP, who has been installed as a candidate and been miraculously transformed into some loved politician overnight by the Media and big tech companies. It is amazing to see what media talking heads had to say about her before Biden dropped out and compare it to what they said the day after Biden dropped out of the race. It is also important to realize how we were lied to about how "sharp" Biden was by all of the politicians and news media folks for years until his debate performance showed that it was a lie, only to see how they changed their tune the second the political insiders decided to dump him... apparently against his will. We will never know who makes up the Cabal that has actually been running the current administration for the past few years, but the fact that unknown individuals in the government have been running it with Joe as a puppet figurehead should scare us all. That is not how our Republic was designed to operate!

[Buddahaid]

...The insiders in the political system have fought Trump ever since he announced his first Presidential campaign...

A lot of Trump's insiders say he's not fit.

"Trump's former National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, a former president and chief operating officer for Goldman Sachs, reportedly called Trump a "professional liar."

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who prior to joining the Trump administration was the CEO of ExxonMobil, in a meeting at the Pentagon reportedly called Trump a "f**king moron."

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton, who previously served as an ambassador to the UN and has worked in three Republican presidential administrations, in his memoir called Trump "erratic" and "stunningly uninformed."

Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis, a four star US Marine Corps general who commanded troops in three wars, in a statement in June said Trump "tries to divide us," that he makes "a mockery of the Constitution" and that "we are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership." He also told veteran journalist Bob Woodward: "The president has no moral compass."

Former White House Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, also a four star US Marine Corps general, has been the tightest-lipped about his time working for Trump. But he did say he agrees with Mattis' assessment of Trump, and he publicly disputed Trump's claim that he fired Mattis. That means Kelly effectively called Trump a liar."

[August]

A lot of Trump's insiders say he's not fit.

"Trump's former National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, a former president and chief operating officer for Goldman Sachs, reportedly called Trump a "professional liar."

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who prior to joining the Trump administration was the CEO of ExxonMobil, in a meeting at the Pentagon reportedly called Trump a "f**king moron."

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton, who previously served as an ambassador to the UN and has worked in three Republican presidential administrations, in his memoir called Trump "erratic" and "stunningly uninformed."

Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis, a four star US Marine Corps general who commanded troops in three wars, in a statement in June said Trump "tries to divide us," that he makes "a mockery of the Constitution" and that "we are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership." He also told veteran journalist Bob Woodward: "The president has no moral compass."

Former White House Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, also a four star US Marine Corps general, has been the tightest-lipped about his time working for Trump. But he did say he agrees with Mattis' assessment of Trump, and he publicly disputed Trump's claim that he fired Mattis. That means Kelly effectively called Trump a liar."


That pretty much validates what AVG said. Political Insiders every one of them.

[AVGWarhawk]

A lot of Trump's insiders say he's not fit.

"Trump's former National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, a former president and chief operating officer for Goldman Sachs, reportedly called Trump a "professional liar."

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who prior to joining the Trump administration was the CEO of ExxonMobil, in a meeting at the Pentagon reportedly called Trump a "f**king moron."

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton, who previously served as an ambassador to the UN and has worked in three Republican presidential administrations, in his memoir called Trump "erratic" and "stunningly uninformed."

Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis, a four star US Marine Corps general who commanded troops in three wars, in a statement in June said Trump "tries to divide us," that he makes "a mockery of the Constitution" and that "we are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership." He also told veteran journalist Bob Woodward: "The president has no moral compass."

Former White House Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, also a four star US Marine Corps general, has been the tightest-lipped about his time working for Trump. But he did say he agrees with Mattis' assessment of Trump, and he publicly disputed Trump's claim that he fired Mattis. That means Kelly effectively called Trump a liar."


RFK:
"What "MAGA" really means

The phrase has troubled liberals who think it is a call for a return to an America before civil rights, gay rights, and women's rights. But I have a more generous interpretation, one that is truer to my experience of Donald Trump as he is today. "Make America Great Again" recalls a nation brimming with vitality, with a can-do spirit, with hope and a belief in itself. It was an America that was beginning to confront its darker shadows, could acknowledge the injustice in its past and present, yet at the same time could celebrate its successes. It was a nation of broad prosperity, the world's most vibrant middle class, and a idealistic belief (though not consistently applied) in freedom, justice, and democracy. It was a nation that led the world in innovation, productivity, and technology. And it was the healthiest country in the world. I have talked to many Trump supporters. I have talked with his inner circle. I have talked to the man himself. This is the America they want to restore.
The phrase has troubled liberals who think it is a call for a return to an America before civil rights, gay rights, and women's rights. But I have a more generous interpretation, one that is truer to my experience of Donald Trump as he is today. "Make America Great Again" recalls a nation brimming with vitality, with a can-do spirit, with hope and a belief in itself. It was an America that was beginning to confront its darker shadows, could acknowledge the injustice in its past and present, yet at the same time could celebrate its successes. It was a nation of broad prosperity, the world's most vibrant middle class, and a idealistic belief (though not consistently applied) in freedom, justice, and democracy. It was a nation that led the world in innovation, productivity, and technology. And it was the healthiest country in the world. I have talked to many Trump supporters. I have talked with his inner circle. I have talked to the man himself. This is the America they want to restore."

[mapuc]

One person in my head
It is quiet dumb
Well now it has been said
It's all about Trump

Markus

[Buddahaid]

RFK:
"What "MAGA" really means

The phrase has troubled liberals who think it is a call for a return to an America before civil rights, gay rights, and women's rights. But I have a more generous interpretation, one that is truer to my experience of Donald Trump as he is today. "Make America Great Again" recalls a nation brimming with vitality, with a can-do spirit, with hope and a belief in itself. It was an America that was beginning to confront its darker shadows, could acknowledge the injustice in its past and present, yet at the same time could celebrate its successes. It was a nation of broad prosperity, the world's most vibrant middle class, and a idealistic belief (though not consistently applied) in freedom, justice, and democracy. It was a nation that led the world in innovation, productivity, and technology. And it was the healthiest country in the world. I have talked to many Trump supporters. I have talked with his inner circle. I have talked to the man himself. This is the America they want to restore.
The phrase has troubled liberals who think it is a call for a return to an America before civil rights, gay rights, and women's rights. But I have a more generous interpretation, one that is truer to my experience of Donald Trump as he is today. "Make America Great Again" recalls a nation brimming with vitality, with a can-do spirit, with hope and a belief in itself. It was an America that was beginning to confront its darker shadows, could acknowledge the injustice in its past and present, yet at the same time could celebrate its successes. It was a nation of broad prosperity, the world's most vibrant middle class, and a idealistic belief (though not consistently applied) in freedom, justice, and democracy. It was a nation that led the world in innovation, productivity, and technology. And it was the healthiest country in the world. I have talked to many Trump supporters. I have talked with his inner circle. I have talked to the man himself. This is the America they want to restore."

That's fine with me but the reality ends up being bozos like Bobert, and Greene, and Comer, and Gaetz, and Jordon, and Loomer, and Santos, etc.

For a party that claims to be tough patriots, there sure ends up being a lot of whining about how unfair it all is when they don't win, but never fear, Trump knows more about everything than anybody, including losing.

[AVGWarhawk]

That's fine with me but the reality ends up being bozos like Bobert, and Greene, and Comer, and Gaetz, and Jordon, and Loomer, and Santos, etc.

For a party that claims to be tough patriots, there sure ends up being a lot of whining about how unfair it all is when they don't win, but never fear, Trump knows more about everything than anybody, including losing.

You forgot to add the "Squad" in the bozo category.

[August]

You forgot to add the "Squad" in the bozo category.


There are senior Democrat Congresscritters who believe that islands can capsize if we put too many people on them. Democrats always project their failings on others so whenever you hear one call republicans a name or accuse them of something you can bet your bottom dollar that they fit the bill far more than the objects of their hatred.

[Buddahaid]

There are senior Democrat Congresscritters who believe that islands can capsize if we put too many people on them. Democrats always project their failings on others so whenever you hear one call republicans a name or accuse them of something you can bet your bottom dollar that they fit the bill far more than the objects of their hatred.

Have any sources for that? I doubt it.

[AVGWarhawk]

Have any sources for that? I doubt it.

"Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) is raising some eyebrows with a comment he made about the U.S. territory of Guam during a House Armed Services Committee hearing last Thursday.

In a discussion regarding a planned military buildup on the Pacific island, Johnson expressed some concerns about the plans to Adm. Robert Willard, head of the U.S. Pacific fleet.

"My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize," Johnson said."

[Buddahaid]

"Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) is raising some eyebrows with a comment he made about the U.S. territory of Guam during a House Armed Services Committee hearing last Thursday.

In a discussion regarding a planned military buildup on the Pacific island, Johnson expressed some concerns about the plans to Adm. Robert Willard, head of the U.S. Pacific fleet.

"My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize," Johnson said."

OK. I'm sure that was a tongue in cheek comment but go ahead and take it to the bank. :haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

OK. I'm sure that was a tongue in cheek comment but go ahead and take it to the bank. :haha:

No sir. He was serious.

[Buddahaid]

Points to your side. He's ready for retirement. :haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

Harris: Raise corporate tax to 28%? It will raise billions in revenue....sigh....

Her logic is that a tax increase is OK because it would raise federal revenue, even though it would make US companies less competitive across the world and would raise prices for Americans because corporations will adjust for this increased cost of doing business? This is the kind of uninformed thinking that people think will make America better? Dems really do think voters are stupid.


Still waiting for any thoughts from Harris on where spending could be cut from the federal budget. The only ideas she's shared call for $1.7 trillion in additional spending. I feel very confident with Harris.....yea, no. :doh:

[Jimbuna]

Trump and Harris clash over hot mics during presidential debate as ex-president suggests he might back out

Kamala Harris’s campaign is reportedly in a dispute with Donald Trump’s team over whether to keep the candidates’ microphones on throughout the entire presidential debate on September 10 — as the former president suggested on social media Sunday night that he might not debate her at all.

The Harris campaign is pushing to keep the microphones on the entire time, a deviation from the Biden campaign’s initial request.

“Our understanding is that Trump’s handlers prefer the muted microphone because they don’t think their candidate can act presidential for 90 minutes on his own,” Brian Fallon, senior adviser for communications for the Harris campaign told Politico.

“We suspect Trump’s team has not even told their boss about this dispute because it would be too embarrassing to admit they don’t think he can handle himself against Vice President Harris without the benefit of a mute button,” Fallon added.
But Trump’s campaign has pushed back, insisting that the Harris campaign is trying to change the rules with the hope that Trump will skip out on the debate.

“Enough with the games. We accepted the ABC debate under the exact same terms as the CNN debate,” Jason Miller, a senior adviser for Trump, told Politico.

The disagreement over muted microphones has stirred speculation about whether Trump will follow through on his commitment to debate Harris. Already, Trump seems to be wavering in his decision.

He’s criticized ABC News for hosting the debate, believing the network does not treat him fairly. And on Sunday night, the former president attacked the network over its interview of Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton, calling it on Truth Social “ridiculous and biased.”

He then asked, “Why would I do the Debate against Kamala Harris on that network?”

But on Monday, Trump changed his tune, telling NBC News it “doesn’t matter” if the microphones remain on throughout the debate or off and he would “rather have it probably on.”

ABC News is slated to host the presidential debate in Philadelphia between Harris and Trump. The terms of it were agreed upon before Harris replaced President Joe Biden on the Democratic ticket.

Miller said Harris’s campaign had asked to change it to a seated debate, with notes allowed and opening statements — requests they turned down.

“If Kamala Harris isn’t smart enough to repeat the messaging points her handlers want her to memorize, that’s their problem. This seems to be a pattern for the Harris campaign. They won’t allow Harris to do interviews, they won’t allow her to do press conferences, and now they want to give her a cheat-sheet for the debate. My guess is that they’re looking for a way to get out of any debate with President Trump,” Miller claimed.

So far, the September 10 debate is the only one Trump and Harris have agreed to. The former president has suggested adding other debates hosted by NBC News or Fox News.

Now, the back-and-forth over the muted microphone situation has some wondering if the presidential debate will continue.

Muted microphones may have benefitted Trump during his first presidential debate against Biden since he, historically, has interrupted other candidates. During that debate, the muted mic seemed to keep Trump focused, as Biden stumbled over many of his statements.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/trump-and-harris-clash-over-hot-mics-during-presidential-debate-as-ex-president-suggests-he-might-back-out/ar-AA1psxm0?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=24837e9451d243ca96a1ae04ff08bbba&ei=20

[AVGWarhawk]

Trump and Harris clash over hot mics during presidential debate as ex-president suggests he might back out

"Vice President Kamala Harris' 2024 presidential campaign is seeking a change to the upcoming ABC News debate with former President Donald Trump, saying the campaign was not involved in the original negotiations when President Joe Biden was still the nominee.

The Harris campaign is demanding that microphones not be muted when the other candidate is speaking, something Trump had agreed to with Biden for two debates.

Both the Harris campaign and Politico have argued that the rules for the September 10 debate were set with the Biden campaign, not the Harris campaign, but she is trying to have it both ways after declaring that the "debate about debates is over." The statement was made after Trump said there should be three debates with Harris instead of two because she was the new nominee. Harris made it clear that she will only participate in two debates.

When asked about the microphone issue on Monday, Trump said, "We agreed to the same rules. I don't know; doesn't matter to me. I'd rather probably have it on. The agreement was that it would be the same as it was last time. In that case, it was muted. I didn't like it the last time, but it worked out fine."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/harris-campaign-throws-another-wrench-to-jam-upcoming-debate-with-trump?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fb-comment_levintv&tpcc=social_fb-comment&fbclid=IwY2xjawE5nEpleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHQ3vGQHKISaWW FDaFPz1MYozaSp3DwvWdkLW_mwCVOUFpBqj0M4Rdc3ctg_aem_ FjYf7NNAzXorytnCxMIzHQ

[Jimbuna]

Appreciate the clarification Chris so will look forward to the debate/s

[AVGWarhawk]

Appreciate the clarification Chris so will look forward to the debate/s

It is going to be a good time!!!

[Jimbuna]

Looking forward to it actually and hoping it is better than the rubbish spouted during the UK political debates.

[Buddahaid]

Here's the story I posted about earlier from FOX news who broke the story. I can't find the letter itself.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-lawyers-who-advised-reagan-bush-endorse-harris-over-trump-2024-showdown?msockid=330f73bdb32861681bd5675ab2ac60f1

[AVGWarhawk]

Here's the story I posted about earlier from FOX news who broke the story. I can't find the letter itself.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-lawyers-who-advised-reagan-bush-endorse-harris-over-trump-2024-showdown?msockid=330f73bdb32861681bd5675ab2ac60f1

Profound risks? Where were these clowns the first time Trump ran and won? What exactly profoundly happened the 4 years Trump was at PA Ave? A lot of profound risks but nothing to substantiate the claim.

[Buddahaid]

Seems like these clowns can recognize the bigger clown in the room, and like many in 2016, Trump was an untested new face. Trump’s failure to accept the 2020 election results and not peacefully transfer power is what turned them and is why they speak out now. Why don’t you research it?

[Buddahaid]

Jack Smith files to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals as regards the Mar-a-Lago documents case dismissed by Judge Cannon.

"CONCLUSION
The Court should reverse the dismissal order and remand for further
proceedings."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/f69099d7-a16a-40bf-9944-1cefabc7100d.pdf

[AVGWarhawk]

Seems like these clowns can recognize the bigger clown in the room, and like many in 2016, Trump was an untested new face. Trump’s failure to accept the 2020 election results and not peacefully transfer power is what turned them and is why they speak out now. Why don’t you research it?

Trump was not alone not accepting the outcome. It is his right as well as the others who ran to contest the results. Not everyone is Hillary and wandered the woods in silence as a result of losing an election. No need to research these clowns or the others that miraculously appeared today stating they are not going to work for Trump again or vote for him.

[AVGWarhawk]

Jack Smith files to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals as regards the Mar-a-Lago documents case dismissed by Judge Cannon.

"CONCLUSION
The Court should reverse the dismissal order and remand for further
proceedings."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/f69099d7-a16a-40bf-9944-1cefabc7100d.pdf

Golly, that's a surprise.

[Buddahaid]

Trump was not alone not accepting the outcome. It is his right as well as the others who ran to contest the results. Not everyone is Hillary and wandered the woods in silence as a result of losing an election. No need to research these clowns or the others that miraculously appeared today stating they are not going to work for Trump again or vote for him.

I figured you’d put your fingers in your ears, close your eyes, and go lalalalala.

[Buddahaid]

Golly, that's a surprise.

No it’s not. The decision to dismiss is misguided and pretty obvious reversible error that will be overturned pretty quickly.

[AVGWarhawk]

No it’s not. The decision to dismiss is misguided and pretty obvious reversible error that will be overturned pretty quickly.

Sarcasm sir. Sarcasm.

[AVGWarhawk]

I figured you’d put your fingers in your ears, close your eyes, and go lalalalala.

Of course. Why? Because all of this as well as others coming out of the woodwork just months prior to an election. This is how it goes every election and more so for Trump.

But hey, it is no different then you putting your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and go lalalala when Harris is promising the world, accepting it is going to happen. She will save the country!!! Yee-ha!

[Buddahaid]

Sarcasm sir. Sarcasm.

Please use an emoji to convey that's the case. It's not always obvious when I have to assume your comments are serious. I can take my own advice there as well.

[AVGWarhawk]

Here is one for you Budda. I did not know 92% of Harris staff quit. Must be a bunch of fun to work with. Kind of like Trump....:haha:

Who is the real Kamala Harris? She is who her handlers tell her who she is.

https://youtu.be/WWyE-zUL_sA?si=fbx12W9c3o2O96gj

[Buddahaid]

Of course. Why? Because all of this as well as others coming out of the woodwork just months prior to an election. This is how it goes every election and more so for Trump.

But hey, it is no different then you putting your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and go lalalala when Harris is promising the world, accepting it is going to happen. She will save the country!!! Yee-ha!

Touche. I doubt she will "save" the country, in part because I don't think it needs anywhere near as much saving as the emotional negative messaging and fear mongering coming from Trump. It's how he has manipulated people his whole life and he's good at it.

That said, I do think Trump will harm the country because I see him as a pathological narcissist that has no boundaries, or morals. He doesn't give a crap about Christianity as long as he can emotionally manipulate the fundamentalist extreme. How did you feel about Trump saying in front the cameras he trusted Putin's word more than, what was it, seventeen national intelligence agencies warning about Putin's manipulations? Putin was KGB and Trump is an easy target when you stroke his ego.

[Buddahaid]

Here is one for you Budda. I did not know 92% of Harris staff quit. Must be a bunch of fun to work with. Kind of like Trump....:haha:

Who is the real Kamala Harris? She is who her handlers tell her who she is.


That 92% figure appears to be driven by an Axios story quoting anonymous sources. See, I did some searching. At least the Republican lawyers I brought up are public about it and use their names on a document.

https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-staff-turnover-office-burnout-opportunities-pigeonholed-2024-democrats-2021-12

https://www.axios.com/2021/12/03/harris-turnover

"Burnout, better opportunities and concern about being permanently branded a "Harris person" is driving some of the turnover in Vice President Kamala Harris' office, people familiar with the situation tell Axios."

"Harris needs "someone loyal, who can think methodically to best position the vice president and to make sure everything she’s doing is being maximized and communicated to a broad population and get her numbers up," one Democratic strategist — who requested anonymity to speak frankly — told Axios."

"Another Democratic operative close to the vice president's office, also requesting anonymity to speak freely, said the departures add pressure to Harris' chief of staff, Tina Flournoy, to avoid an internal collapse and external criticism."

[mapuc]

Harris is an unwritten book and it's first after her 12 month in the Oval Office you can either give her thumbs up or thumbs down.

When it comes to Trump...well...nothing new here it ain't

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Touche. I doubt she will "save" the country, in part because I don't think it needs anywhere near as much saving as the emotional negative messaging and fear mongering coming from Trump. It's how he has manipulated people his whole life and he's good at it.

That said, I do think Trump will harm the country because I see him as a pathological narcissist that has no boundaries, or morals. He doesn't give a crap about Christianity as long as he can emotionally manipulate the fundamentalist extreme. How did you feel about Trump saying in front the cameras he trusted Putin's word more than, what was it, seventeen national intelligence agencies warning about Putin's manipulations? Putin was KGB and Trump is an easy target when you stroke his ego.

Fear mongering from Trump?? TRUMP WILL END DEMOCRACY!!! TRUMP WILL STRIP YOU OF YOUR RIGHTS!! No sir, the dems and the media are the worst at fear mongering.

There has been quite a few presidents that were narcissists, no boundaries or morals. Combination of one or two. When you find anyone without at least one of these traits let me know. Harris...morals? That is a good one. She has no boundaries. Mr. Brown can attest to that.

What has Putin manipulated from Trump? Are we talking Rush collusion. Maybe Obama? Russian President Dmitri Medvedev that he (Obama) would have more flexibility to negotiate after the U.S. election that November.


"Burnout, better opportunities and concern about being permanently branded a "Harris person" is driving some of the turnover in Vice President Kamala Harris' office, people familiar with the situation tell Axios."



And being permanently branded a "Trump person" holds no water???? :doh:

Harris is an unwritten book and it's first after her 12 month in the Oval Office you can either give her thumbs up or thumbs down.

When it comes to Trump...well...nothing new here it ain't

Markus

Mapuc, Harris' campaign is surviving on "good vibes". She can not muster one media interview. Has no answers to funding $25000 to new home buyers. Most certainly this will come from tax payers and subsequent subsidies for the lower income to maintain the home. Promised a 28% tax on corporations(that will only drive up the costs for the consumer. Economics 101).

People are only voting for Harris because she is "not Trump" and a kicker of socialism on the horizon.

[Buddahaid]

And being permanently branded a "Trump person" holds no water???? :doh:

One thing for certain is that after the election Kamala will no longer be the VP. Is it any surprise there is an office turnover happening?

[Dargo]

Always funny as temporarily embarrassed millionaires define socialism.

[AVGWarhawk]

One thing for certain is that after the election Kamala will no longer be the VP. Is it any surprise there is an office turnover happening?

Yes, she will no longer be a VP. Either sent packing back to CA or PA Ave. Remains to be seen.

[AVGWarhawk]

Mark Zuckerberg just admitted three things:
1. Biden-Harris Admin "pressured" Facebook to censor Americans.
2. Facebook censored Americans.
3. Facebook throttled the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Big win for free speech unless you are a republican.

[AVGWarhawk]

Hmmmmm....wonder if Trump will dump Vance and have Kennedy as a running mate. Why not? The other team did it because it was just better. :O:

[mapuc]

Hmmmmm....wonder if Trump will dump Vance and have Kennedy as a running mate. Why not? The other team did it because it was just better. :O:

It would not be the first time this has happened I presume

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, I was going to say the RFK Jr. speech was a confusing mess of nonsense. :haha:

Revisiting this one. Censorship, as described by RFK Jr., by the Biden Administration is not a confusing mess of nonsense. It is as real as the day is long. So says Zuckerberg.

[August]

It would not be the first time this has happened I presume

Markus


You'd need to go back to the FDR administration which had three different Veeps over his 4 terms as POTUS but I don't think there has ever been a Veep swap after the convention nomination.

[mapuc]

You'd need to go back to the FDR administration which had three different Veeps over his 4 terms as POTUS but I don't think there has ever been a Veep swap after the convention nomination.

Your answer gave the idea of making a search and I found this article

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4762076-democrats-replace-biden-lessons/

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Your answer gave the idea of making a search and I found this article

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4762076-democrats-replace-biden-lessons/

Markus

Interesting article. I wonder if in those two years social media and media itself would drive the narrative like it does today?

[AVGWarhawk]

Why is Trump everywhere daily and we never see Harris at all? Why is she hiding? Why is she pushing one network for a debate but Trump is agreeable to utilizing any one of 4 networks for a debate? :hmmm:

[mapuc]

Why is Trump everywhere daily and we never see Harris at all? Why is she hiding? Why is she pushing one network for a debate but Trump is agreeable to utilizing any one of 4 networks for a debate? :hmmm:

Could it be that Trump is, seen from a journalistic point-of-view, more interesting than Candidate Kamela Harris is.
Or
Is the media expecting Harris to win the election and therefore not interested in her before she take over the White House.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Could it be that Trump is, seen from a journalistic point-of-view, more interesting than Candidate Kamela Harris is.
Or
Is the media expecting Harris to win the election and therefore not interested in her before she take over the White House.

Markus

No sir. Harris is being kept behind doors as much as possible. This is another form of basement bunker campaigning.

[mapuc]

No sir. Harris is being kept behind doors as much as possible. This is another form of basement bunker campaigning.

Well sooner or later she has to resurface she can't be hiding in the basement until the 20th of Jan. 2025.

Wonder, could it be that most of the American media are reluctant to put her to the test ? So far they haven't been on her like a hawk-Not what I know of.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Well sooner or later she has to resurface she can't be hiding in the basement until the 20th of Jan. 2025.

Wonder, could it be that most of the American media are reluctant to put her to the test ? So far they haven't been on her like a hawk-Not what I know of.

Markus

She is doing her best to dodge a debate. She is fixated on Sept 10 for some reason. She has yet to talk to the media in any capacity. It's been nothing but a "good vibes" campaign. She has burped up policy that will cost billions yet no idea how she will make it work monetarily. With exceptions of steal from the rich and give it to the poor. The poor will only pay more to offset the stealing from the rich. Not one policy to reduce the budget. Cut spending. Just free cash give aways if you vote for Kamala!!

[mapuc]

She is doing her best to dodge a debate. She is fixated on Sept 10 for some reason. She has yet to talk to the media in any capacity. It's been nothing but a "good vibes" campaign. She has burped up policy that will cost billions yet no idea how she will make it work monetarily. With exceptions of steal from the rich and give it to the poor. The poor will only pay more to offset the stealing from the rich. Not one policy to reduce the budget. Cut spending. Just free cash give aways if you vote for Kamala!!

I guess there ain't no different between your electable politicians and ours here in Europe when it comes to what they would give to get elected.

All these promises is nothing but Helium filled ballons. As I wrote before you will know her politics after she has been your President for a year.

Those who are going to put their vote on Her for the promises she has been given throughout her rallies will be sitting with a long nose after the election

That if she's elected.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

I guess there ain't no different between your electable politicians and ours here in Europe when it comes to what they would give to get elected.

All these promises is nothing but Helium filled ballons. As I wrote before you will know her politics after she has been your President for a year.

Those who are going to put their vote on Her for the promises she has been given throughout her rallies will be sitting with a long nose after the election

That if she's elected.

Markus

Her politics will be the ones given to her. She is gullible and naive. Easily persuaded and manipulated.

[mapuc]

A debate between Harris and Trump will take place on ABC the 10th of September

After weeks of negotiations between the Donald Trump camp, Kamala Harris' campaigners and the ABC television station, it finally appears that an agreement has been reached for a televised debate between the two presidential candidates

https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/politik/trump-afsloerer-krav-til-deltagelse-i-tv-debat/10347475?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

And of course they are on Trump as usual. I can't see this debate it's being transmitted during late night where I'm asleep. It's gonna be interesting though if the journalist will go after her throat or go soft on her.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

A debate between Harris and Trump will take place on ABC the 10th of September



https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/politik/trump-afsloerer-krav-til-deltagelse-i-tv-debat/10347475?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

And of course they are on Trump as usual. I can't see this debate it's being transmitted during late night where I'm asleep. It's gonna be interesting though if the journalist will go after her throat or go soft on her.

Markus

She will be asked the tough questions. Like what flavor ice cream Biden liked? What color is the White House?

[Buddahaid]

Jack Smith files a superseding indictment in the DC election interference case against Trump in light of the SCOTUS ruling.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.226.0_1.pdf

EDIT: This explains the three week delay Smith requested which apparently was used to convene another Grand Jury that heard the evidence for the first time and brought the new indictment.

[Rockstar]

Kamala Harris has pledged to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called "un-American" during the Trump administration, per Axios.

Gee, no tax on tips, law and order, AND a wall. She might as well run with Trump.

[Buddahaid]

Kamala Harris has pledged to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called "un-American" during the Trump administration, per Axios.

Gee, no tax on tips, law and order, AND a wall. She might as well run with Trump.

I think she's running over Trump. :O: :haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

Kamala Harris has pledged to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called "un-American" during the Trump administration, per Axios.

Gee, no tax on tips, law and order, AND a wall. She might as well run with Trump.

Go figure. At this rate she should be running under the Republican ticket.

[AVGWarhawk]

I think she's running over Trump. :O: :haha:


She has no game plan more like it. 😘

[Buddahaid]

She has no game plan more like it. 😘

That's what you hope but I expect that's a lot of underestimating talk while whistling past the graveyard of Trumpism.

Bring on the debate, mute or not, Trump or not. He needs this debate more than she does right now.

[AVGWarhawk]

That's what you hope but I expect that's a lot of underestimating talk while whistling past the graveyard of Trumpism.

Bring on the debate, mute or not, Trump or not. He needs this debate more than she does right now.

I do not agree. She needs to be front and center answering the hard questions at a debate. Right now only good vibes are keeping her afloat. When she starts talking storage for files somewhere in the clouds will America see she is bright as a 5 watt lightbulb.

[Buddahaid]

I do not agree. She needs to be front and center answering the hard questions at a debate. Right now only good vibes are keeping her afloat. When she starts talking storage for files somewhere in the clouds will America see she is bright as a 5 watt lightbulb.

That's three more watts than Trump has anymore. :Kaleun_Wink:

[AVGWarhawk]

The entire democratic party turned their back on JFK values. Totally different world today then the 60s. Democratic Socialist. Whatever that means. But it works for AOC. Stick to your guns, Robert.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/rfk-jr-bobby-kennedy-was-everything-you-aren-t-you-ve-betrayed-your-father-s-legacy/ar-AA1pzjq2?ocid=emmx-mmx-feeds&cvid=729623e78279405f9e871b6b73adbbb4&ei=21&PC=EMMX01

[Rockstar]

Did you know Gabbard, Kennedy and Trump all used to be Democrats?

All that’s left are war mongers, supporters of hamas, hoochie mama Harris and a communist from Minnesota.

[AVGWarhawk]

That's three more watts than Trump has anymore. :Kaleun_Wink:

But Trumps is LED. Burns brighter at lower watts. :03:

[Onkel Neal]

Kamala Harris has pledged to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called "un-American" during the Trump administration, per Axios.

Gee, no tax on tips, law and order, AND a wall. She might as well run with Trump.

Jeezxus, I didn't think it could get worse than Biden, but she's giving him a run for the money

https://youtu.be/v3A-ubUIX6s?si=jYP4DscR7xoIvgmh&t=6

[AVGWarhawk]

Jeezxus, I didn't think it could get worse than Biden, but she's giving him a run for the money



Not to mention your files are now stored up in the cloud. Like over you head clouds. :doh:

https://youtu.be/0FjjJme1aVQ?si=z5DyGreMokkcWWpU

[Jimbuna]

Trump national security team watched in horror as China's Xi Jinping 'ate his lunch': book

Former Trump national security adviser H.R. McMaster has written a new book filled with disparaging stories about his former boss, and the New York Times reports that it even features of a story of the former president being blatantly manipulated by Chinese President Xi Jinping.

The incident in question came during a visit to China in November of 2017 in which McMaster tried to warn Trump against letting Xi make him stray from his prepared talking points.

Trump, however, had other ideas.

"In the Great Hall of the People, the president strayed from his talking points," according to the Times's report. "He agreed with Xi that military exercises in South Korea were 'provocative' and a 'waste of money' and suggested that China might have a legitimate claim to Japan’s Senkaku Islands. McMaster, his stomach sinking, passed a note to Gen. John Kelly, the chief of staff: Xi 'ate our lunch,' it read."

McMaster also says that foreign leaders treated Trump like a "chump" and quickly discovered they could manipulate him by boosting his ego.

"Flattery and pomp from leaders like Xi, Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the Russian president Vladimir V. Putin seem to have been all that was required to get in Trump’s good graces," writes the Times.

"In 2018, McMaster found Trump in the Oval Office scrawling a cheerful note to Putin across a New York Post article reporting that the Russian president had denigrated the American political system but called Trump a good listener. Like a child with his Christmas wish list, the leader of the free world asked McMaster to send it to the Kremlin."

Looking forward, writes the Times, McMaster questions whether the 78-year-old Trump is still able to "perform well the sometimes grueling job of president" and he notes that Trump seven years ago became "tired" by a 13-day trip to Asia.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-national-security-team-watched-in-horror-as-china-s-xi-jinping-ate-his-lunch-book/ar-AA1pxeaq?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=16604a4d18be4a6aa525447ac1d8a4c0&ei=28

[AVGWarhawk]

Trump national security team watched in horror as China's Xi Jinping 'ate his lunch': book

My 27 yo daughter got tired on a 13 day trip to Croatia and Athens. This was as vacation! Are we to expect anything different for Trump?

China bought Biden from what read. Apparently Hunter as well. Both brought lunch to Xi Jinping. :har:

What really gets me is the amount of people who look to cash in on Trump.

[AVGWarhawk]

Now the Harris camp wants opening statements and notes to refer to at the debate??? Is this empty pants suit capable of answer questions without a cheat sheet????? Here we go again with feeding the questions to the democrat running for president prior to the debate. :doh:


https://youtu.be/PpO8FpaeSEk?si=CE0DCdLfI5tPL-6e

[Rockstar]

Now the Harris camp wants opening statements and notes to refer to at the debate??? Is this empty pants suit capable of answer questions without a cheat sheet????? Here we go again with feeding the questions to the democrat running for president prior to the debate. :doh:


https://youtu.be/PpO8FpaeSEk?si=CE0DCdLfI5tPL-6e

It’s going on 40 days now without anyone asking Harris just one serious question since her appointment as the Democrats de facto nominee.

[AVGWarhawk]

It’s going on 40 days now without anyone asking Harris just one serious question since her appointment as the Democrats de facto nominee.

She is running a basement bunker campaign. Worked for Biden. They are trying it again. I understand she is going on CNN with her dad Walz in tow for an interview. Guarantee Walz will be answer for her.

BTW, She is copying 4 of Trump policies. She now want a border wall. There is footage after footage saying the wall will not work. It is a Trump vanity project. Just flips and flips and flips. None of what she is promising is not going to happen.

[vienna]

Wow, that Trump guy and his minions are a really class (crass?) act; the Giant Cheeto surely does love and respect the members of the US military services who have given their lives in duty to their country...

...particularly if their loss gives Trump a campaign a photo-op...


Trump staffers reported over altercation at Arlington cemetery during photo op --

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/28/trump-arlington-cemetery-visit-altercation


A real question to be asked is why Trump was even at the event at all, particularly in such a featured role; other than his having brokered the deal with the Taliban (and with the exclusion of the civilian Afghan government at the time) that was disastrously flawed, Trump really had no reason to be there other than as a part of the general audience attending; the focus should and must be on the troops who paid the highest price for following the orders they were given and not on those who gave those orders...



<O>

[AVGWarhawk]

Wow, that Trump guy and his minions are a really class (crass?) act; the Giant Cheeto surely does love and respect the members of the US military services who have given their lives in duty to their country...

...particularly if their loss gives Trump a campaign a photo-op...


Trump staffers reported over altercation at Arlington cemetery during photo op --

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/28/trump-arlington-cemetery-visit-altercation


A real question to be asked is why Trump was even at the event at all, particularly in such a featured role; other than his having brokered the deal with the Taliban (and with the exclusion of the civilian Afghan government at the time) that was disastrously flawed, Trump really had no reason to be there other than as a part of the general audience attending; the focus should and must be on the troops who paid the highest price for following the orders they were given and not on those who gave those orders...



<O>


Better question, where the hell was Biden and Harris?

[Rockstar]

Oh look the anonymous sources are blooming early this season. :har::har:

[Rockstar]

Better question, where the hell was Biden and Harris?

Harris and Walz are showing up for their first joint interview on CNN with sycophantic anchor Dana Bash

Pre-taped of course :roll:

https://i.ibb.co/rF4tfgm/IMG-0424.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Harris and Walz are showing up for their first joint interview on CNN with sycophantic anchor Dana Bash

Pre-taped of course :roll:

https://i.ibb.co/rF4tfgm/IMG-0424.jpg

CNN! Their greatest ally! Imagine that. Pre-taped. No way!!!! Such BS. Totally manufacturing a win for a moron.

[Rockstar]

Better question, where the hell was Biden and Harris?

That is great question. I’m thinking since 13 soldiers died on their watch and the vp nominee is viewed by many veterans as having run away from deployment they decided it was probably too risky. That and they needed the time to study the questions they would be asked on CNN’s pre recorded interview


Oh and by the way.

https://youtu.be/NMQPMe5wn2o

[AVGWarhawk]

That is great question. I’m thinking since 13 soldiers died on their watch and the vp nominee is viewed by many veterans as having run away from deployment they decided it was probably to risky. That and they needed the time to study the questions that would asked on CNN’s pre recorded interview




The optics would not play well for these two. Better keep in hiding like she has been.

[u crank]

CNN! Their greatest ally! Imagine that. Pre-taped. No way!!!! Such BS. Totally manufacturing a win for a moron.

The question to ask is, are there any people who are fooled by this? Yes, the true believers and the low info crowd. In other words people who have already decided. You would think that the goal is to get the undecided and the swing voters but I doubt if they will be taken in by this kind of thing.

[AVGWarhawk]

The question to ask is, are there any people who are fooled by this? Yes, the true believers and the low info crowd. In other words people who have already decided. You would think that the goal is to get the undecided and the swing voters but I doubt if they will be taken in by this kind of thing.

Well, apparently TDS is real. These same people with TDS would believe anything fed to them by the chosen one and her minion Walz. There are those that are anyone but Trump voters. These people will also believe what is fed to them by CNN and the like.

On the other hand, there are Trumpers that believe anything Trump says. So there is that.

The goal here at CNN is to attempt to make Harris look like she knows WTH she is doing. It will be scripted beyond belief. It is a poodle show at best. Her handlers know she is going to bungle every interview and debate. Walz will hold her hand at CNN. The debates they want now opening speech and notes. Scripted once again and Harris to have the questions before hand. It has been done before. The TDS and anyone but Trump group will bask in the wonderfulness of it all. :doh: Just more good vibes campaigning. Horse and pony show.

She is running for the most powerful position on earth but can only muster an interview with CNN and the "coach" in tow to keep her at least coherent. Sheesh.....

[u crank]

She is running for the most powerful position on earth but can only muster an interview with CNN and the "coach" in tow to keep her at least coherent. Sheesh.....

One would think that if she is very sure she should be President then she would show some courage in that regard. Call up FOX NEWS and ask for a prime time sit down with Bret Baier or Harris Faulkner. Answer the tough questions and put the doubts to rest. I am not holding my breath.:D:03::O:

[AVGWarhawk]

One would think that if she is very sure she should be President then she would show some courage in that regard. Call up FOX NEWS and ask for a prime time sit down with Bret Baier or Harris Faulkner. Answer the tough questions and put the doubts to rest. I am not holding my breath.:D:03::O:

That will never happen.

[Rockstar]

Thank you for visiting **at the request** of Gold Star families.

JD Vance tells Kamala to "go to hell" after her campaign criticized Trump for going to Arlington National Cemetery to honor the 13 service members who died in Afghanistan.

"To have those 13 Americans lose their lives and not fire a single person is disgraceful. Kamala Harris is disgraceful."

"Kamala Harris is so asleep at the wheel that she won't even do an investigation into what happened."

"But she wants to yell at Donald Trump for showing up. She can go to hell."


https://youtu.be/yYwArIw9CMk


Why would someone link to some stupid British state run tabloid news article that actually went as far to make up a fairy tale stating photography was somehow against the law.

Apparently nobody regurgitating the b.s. they so dutifully consume never bothered reading Arlington’s media policy or asked the gold star families who they invited to remember their fallen loved ones.

I guess we know why some veterans and their families really dislike Harris and Walz

[u crank]

That will never happen.

I'd say you are right. Maybe we will have to wait for Trump to ask the tough questions at the debate. :haha:

[Buddahaid]

Thank you for visiting **at the request** of Gold Star families.

JD Vance tells Kamala to "go to hell" after her campaign criticized Trump for going to Arlington National Cemetery to honor the 13 service members who died in Afghanistan.

"To have those 13 Americans lose their lives and not fire a single person is disgraceful. Kamala Harris is disgraceful."

"Kamala Harris is so asleep at the wheel that she won't even do an investigation into what happened."

"But she wants to yell at Donald Trump for showing up. She can go to hell."


Why would someone link to some stupid British state run tabloid news article that actually went as far to make up a fairy tale stating photography was somehow against the law.

Apparently nobody regurgitating the b.s. they so dutifully consume never bothered reading Arlington’s media policy or asked the gold star families who they invited to remember their fallen loved ones.

I guess we know why some veterans and their families really dislike Harris and Walz

And the Trump entourage violated the rules about filming in that area and turned it into a TikTok video. No respect, just another photo-op.

[Rockstar]

And the Trump entourage violated the rules about filming in that area and turned it into a TikTok video. No respect, just another photo-op.

People have been saying that about Trump for years yet he was the one invited by Gold Star families and Harris wasn’t. Neither was Biden or Walz for that matter.

So what else can some in media do but quote anonymous sources, make up statements without proof and create fairy tale federal laws out of the blue.

[AVGWarhawk]

And the Trump entourage violated the rules about filming in that area and turned it into a TikTok video. No respect, just another photo-op.

Hey Budda. Wondered where you were hiding. Trump was invited. Permission was given to video and take pictures. Maybe, just maybe the families wanted this??? Punch in the eye to Biden and Harris who gladly agreed to go in Afghanistan with no plan. Biden and Harris didn't get the invite or due to optics the invite was received but their time was better spent campaigning. Sorry man, the no respect runs right up to the White House. You know it.

"But the family members said they had given Trump's team prior approval to bring a campaign photographer and videographer to the event, "ensuring these sacred moments of remembrance were respectfully captured."

Harris gave some halfhearted paragraph written by someone who has a brain. Biden mumbled something while in the Oval Office.

[Sean C]

According to ballotpedia.org (https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_candidates,_2024), there are 1,298 people from 49 political parties on the list of registered 2024 U.S. presidential candidates.


... Just sayin'.

[mapuc]

Oh man your policy and politicians are more interesting and funny to follow than our own boring elected politicians and their policy.

It's gonna be a thrill night the night of the election on Nov. 5th
Need Pringles and Coca cola 'cause it's going to be nail biting affair.

Markus

[vienna]

...

Why would someone link to some stupid British state run tabloid news article that actually went as far to make up a fairy tale stating photography was somehow against the law.

Apparently nobody regurgitating the b.s. they so dutifully consume never bothered reading ArlingtonÂ’s media policy or asked the gold star families who they invited to remember their fallen loved ones.

I guess we know why some veterans and their families really dislike Harris and Walz


Well, then I guess all this following must be a lie:


First, the "fairy tale" laws & regulations are actually real...


DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY - ARMY NATIONAL MILITARY CEMETERIES - ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY - ARLINGTON, VA 22211-5003 - SAAC-PAO 18 April 2022 - MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD

SUBJECT: Media Policy for Army National Military Cemeteries


https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Portals/0/ANC-media-policy.pdf



...the main Arlington site from which the pdf was linked...


ANC Media Policy --

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Media/Media-Policy


... now, this from a US source, since some here seem to think no one outside our country could ever possibly know or care about what we all do here...


What Arlington National Cemetery rules say about politicizing grounds --

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4852429-what-arlington-national-cemetery-rules-say-about-politicizing-grounds/

...and some background on Section 60 at ANC...


Arlington National CemeteryÂ’s Section 60 is a focus of controversy. What is the area? --


https://www.npr.org/2024/08/28/nx-s1-5092041/arlington-trump-section60-veterans-altercation


Only an idiot would seriously believe Trump's intent and attendance at the ceremony was a sincere and heartfelt gesture; and, only a fool would believe anything Trump does is not motivated by his own self interests and ego; if you believe Trump has a sincere, compassionate, and humane cell in his entire body, well, I've got some Trump casino stock to sell you...


...and, as far as Vance is concerned, he should watch his back; Trump is using him to speak publicly in a manner Trump's handlers are trying to avoid having the Giant Cheeto voicing; the chance that Vance will end up putting his foot in his mouth up to his knee is growing every day, and when he finally approaches Palin-esque levels, I expect Trump will experience a deep sense of 'buyer's remorse' and dump Vance's sorry ass to save his own oversized rump; coming soon, the Trump statement: "I really didn't know Vance, I mean we hardly ever had any contact; I just took him on as a favor to the GOP; but, he's gone now, and many people, very fine people are saying I am making the right decision..."...

Careful, JD, the stiletto is coming soon to your back and Trump will wield it...


The true indicator of where Trump's head is at (its usually up his ass) is the fact that he was photographed at his precious photo-op standing next to a grave stone smiling like the idiot he is and giving a 'thumbs up'; how braindead and senile does a person have to be not to realize acting like a sleazy political opportunist just does not fit in with the surroundings, a cemetery devoted to honoring and respecting the lives, service, and sacrifices of those who gave "the last full measure of devotion"; if Trump wants a photo-op, he'll get several when he loses the election and gets all those nice mug shots when he no longer has the shield of 'candidate' immunity...


In contrast to the crassness that is Trump, perhaps it would be well to remember another former President who showed true sincerity, humanity, and compassion when honoring those who gave their lives for their country:




But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.




(Abraham Lincoln, Gettysburg Address, honoring Civil War dead)


...and Lincoln did that washout demanding a photo-op or turning the occasion into a campaign stop...




<O>

[Rockstar]

Well, then I guess all this following must be a lie:


First, the "fairy tale" laws & regulations are actually real...


DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY - ARMY NATIONAL MILITARY CEMETERIES - ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY - ARLINGTON, VA 22211-5003 - SAAC-PAO 18 April 2022 - MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD

SUBJECT: Media Policy for Army National Military Cemeteries


https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Portals/0/ANC-media-policy.pdf



...the main Arlington site from which the pdf was linked...


ANC Media Policy --

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Media/Media-Policy


... now, this from a US source, since some here seem to think no one outside our country could ever possibly know or care about what we all do here...


What Arlington National Cemetery rules say about politicizing grounds --

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4852429-what-arlington-national-cemetery-rules-say-about-politicizing-grounds/

...and some background on Section 60 at ANC...


Arlington National CemeteryÂ’s Section 60 is a focus of controversy. What is the area? --


https://www.npr.org/2024/08/28/nx-s1-5092041/arlington-trump-section60-veterans-altercation


Only an idiot would seriously believe Trump's intent and attendance at the ceremony was a sincere and heartfelt gesture; and, only a fool would believe anything Trump does is not motivated by his own self interests and ego; if you believe Trump has a sincere, compassionate, and humane cell in his entire body, well, I've got some Trump casino stock to sell you...


...and, as far as Vance is concerned, he should watch his back; Trump is using him to speak publicly in a manner Trump's handlers are trying to avoid having the Giant Cheeto voicing; the chance that Vance will end up putting his foot in his mouth up to his knee is growing every day, and when he finally approaches Palin-esque levels, I expect Trump will experience a deep sense of 'buyer's remorse' and dump Vance's sorry ass to save his own oversized rump; coming soon, the Trump statement: "I really didn't know Vance, I mean we hardly ever had any contact; I just took him on as a favor to the GOP; but, he's gone now, and many people, very fine people are saying I am making the right decision..."...

Careful, JD, the stiletto is coming soon to your back and Trump will wield it...


The true indicator of where Trump's head is at (its usually up his ass) is the fact that he was photographed at his precious photo-op standing next to a grave stone smiling like the idiot he is and giving a 'thumbs up'; how braindead and senile does a person have to be not to realize acting like a sleazy political opportunist just does not fit in with the surroundings, a cemetery devoted to honoring and respecting the lives, service, and sacrifices of those who gave "the last full measure of devotion"; if Trump wants a photo-op, he'll get several when he loses the election and gets all those nice mug shots when he no longer has the shield of 'candidate' immunity...


In contrast to the crassness that is Trump, perhaps it would be well to remember another former President who showed true sincerity, humanity, and compassion when honoring those who gave their lives for their country:





(Abraham Lincoln, Gettysburg Address, honoring Civil War dead)


...and Lincoln did that washout demanding a photo-op or turning the occasion into a campaign stop...




<O>


Like so said, one president received an invitation from the gold star families to remember 13 fallen soldiers.

Perhaps Harris, Walz and Biden should followed Lincoln’s example and at least show up, they could have left their cameras home.

Still waiting on the Tik Tok videos and the link to the federal law prohibiting media coverage for the reasons stated in that British state run tabloid rag.

[Gorpet]

I figured you’d put your fingers in your ears, close your eyes, and go lalalalala.

No, Here we go on another Democrat playground carousel.

[Rockstar]

Something everyone should aspire too.
https://i.ibb.co/fN85XMH/IMG-0427.jpg


Unfortunately that isnt always the case now is it?

Court upholds bribery conviction of Chinese exec Patrick Ho linked to Hunter Biden

In other correspondence between Hunter Biden and CEFC, he said that any deals struck would be “interesting for me and my family.”

https://i.ibb.co/3R3Hzbb/IMG-0428.jpg

[vienna]

Like so said, one president received an invitation from the gold star families to remember 13 fallen soldiers.

Perhaps Harris, Walz and Biden should followed Lincoln’s example and at least show up, they could have left their cameras home.

Still waiting on the Tik Tok videos and the link to the federal prohibiting media for any purpose including the reasons stated in that British government tabloid rag.


I would seriously suggest you engage brain before putting words down in writing...


Like so said, one president received an invitation from the gold star families to remember 13 fallen soldiers.

...




Yeah, Trump received an invitation, however I really can't find any indication, other than the family that did invite him, that any of the other families were onboard with the idea; also, an invitation to attend is not an invitation to turn a respectful, somber occasion into a self serving campaign photo-op; the rules of the occasion and the rules of ANC were explicitly, and in writing, given to Trump's minions and they chose to ignore the actual laws and regulations in order to aggrandize their boss/ butt-buddy; nothing you have posted denies that Trump and his jackals are actually at fault...




...

Perhaps Harris, Walz and Biden should followed Lincoln’s example and at least show up, they could have left their cameras home.

...




Still clutching those pearls, Camille? :03: You and I both know, if Harris, Walz, and/or Biden showed up you and your fellow clutchers would be howling about how they were desecrating the ceremony and the vets memories by turning the occasion into a crass, insincere campaign photo -op; you'd howl loud and long with puffed-up faux indignity about the whole thing; the difference here is that your boy is the main offender and some of us, who do care about giving the fallen a dignity beyond mere campaign politics, are actually offended that an over-vain slob who has made little secret for his disdain towards the military (remember, Trump was forced to admit in court to embezzling funds from a veterans charity and paid $2 million dollars to keep the case from going to criminal charges), who has insulted and denigrated soldiers who actually fought (and some who have died) in combat while he traipsed around on his bone spurs, and who has never shown any sincere feeling toward their sacrifices, would have the unmitigated gall to try and stand there' acting "presidential" and making himself the focus of attention rather than the fallen and their families...

Harris, Biden, Walz, and Biden didn't attend and that is probably for the better; the focus should be on those in the earth and those who they left behind...




..

Still waiting on the Tik Tok videos and the link to the federal prohibiting media for any purpose including the reasons stated in that British government tabloid rag.


Wow, talk about dense; the actual link to the ANC Rules & Regulations is actually in my previous post and I even went to the effort of posting a 'domestic' link to a story further expanding on the issue (I didn't use Fox News because, well, I do actually appreciate the truth and a news source that paid $787 million to settle a lawsuit after it was caught in blatant reportage lies); don't you ever actually ever read the posts you are responding to or do you just knee-jerk respond with whatever pap you find on your right wing 'news' sites?; or, maybe, you are of the belief you can bluster and bulldoze your way over anyone who dares to espouse a view you don't subscribe to; well, bulldozer, you are not an irresistible force, but I am an immovable object...

One other thing I have wanted to bring up: you have long made it a practice to belittle and demean arguments, and those who make them, particularly in regards to a particular member who has been the object of your unwarranted spite; this is further egregious given that, unlike you, he actually posts factual links to reputable sites, not tripe like Joe Rogan or other YT bottom feeders and he makes an effort to keep the discourse civil; honestly, I have a great appreciation and admiration for the patience and forbearance of Buddahaid...


In addition, your dismissal of 'foreign' news sources is real childish; the members from outside the US who share the viewpoint of their respective lands are actually far more informative and interesting than the dreck you tend to post; I have very often used non-US news sources to balance out my research into issues because very often what they say gives fresh eyes beyond the vanned news (from all sides) we get here in the US; quite often I have found out details that the media here in the US, for whatever reason, choose not to follow; all of those who are posting from the UK, Denmark, Oz, or anywhere else, keep posting; we could all use a dose of the new here...


Well, I'm done with my rant; to those, other than Rockstar, that I may have offended with my rant, I humbly apologize for steeping outside the lines; to the Mods, I accept any brigging that may come...



<O>


EDIT: Actually, I should apologize to Rockstar; it isn't fair to engage in a battle of wits with some who is unarmed...



<O>

[Gorpet]

Trump national security team watched in horror as China's Xi Jinping 'ate his lunch': book

Well, That is the past.Today Sir Starmer cuddled up with the Germans and together they said we stand with Ukraine to the end.My question is what is the end game.If NATO wants Nuclear war with Russia,Then why the hell are the politicians worried about the climate.
And really if it's war to the end ,USA,England,Canada,France,Germany. And all the sucker NATO countries.With no money from them,Tampons and helmets, only they sure as hell don't want to be targeted.
So we are left with the big 5...And RFK in America has said in 2022. NATO wanted war with Russia.I would say that,TRUMP has nothing to do with that.The Elite Politicians had that going, ya know Power is always hungry.

The horror is knowing that today the British people under Starmer will have to submit.To a new regime.I heard him say today it's my government! This guy with the rest of the elitist and the new world order.Damn sure will not have room for a Monarchy.Will it be like 1917? On November 7, 1917, a coup d'état went down in history as the October Revolution. Can a elitist group of individuals take over the UK. ?
The alarm bells are ringing.

[Gorpet]

I would seriously suggest you engage brain before putting words down in writing...





Yeah, Trump received an invitation, however I really can't find any indication, other than the family that did invite him, that any of the other families were onboard with the idea; also, an invitation to attend is not an invitation to turn a respectful, somber occasion into a self serving campaign photo-op; the rules of the occasion and the rules of ANC were explicitly, and in writing, given to Trump's minions and they chose to ignore the actual laws and regulations in order to aggrandize their boss/ butt-buddy; nothing you have posted denies that Trump and his jackals are actually at fault...





Still clutching those pearls, Camille? :03: You and I both know, if Harris, Walz, and/or Biden showed up you and your fellow clutchers would be howling about how they were desecrating the ceremony and the vets memories by turning the occasion into a crass, insincere campaign photo -op; you'd howl loud and long with puffed-up faux indignity about the whole thing; the difference here is that your boy is the main offender and some of us, who do care about giving the fallen a dignity beyond mere campaign politics, are actually offended that an over-vain slob who has made little secret for his disdain towards the military (remember, Trump was forced to admit in court to embezzling funds from a veterans charity and paid $2 million dollars to keep the case from going to criminal charges), who has insulted and denigrated soldiers who actually fought (and some who have died) in combat while he traipsed around on his bone spurs, and who has never shown any sincere feeling toward their sacrifices, would have the unmitigated gall to try and stand there' acting "presidential" and making himself the focus of attention rather than the fallen and their families...

Harris, Biden, Walz, and Biden didn't attend and that is probably for the better; the focus should be on those in the earth and those who they left behind...





Wow, talk about dense; the actual link to the ANC Rules & Regulations is actually in my previous post and I even went to the effort of posting a 'domestic' link to a story further expanding on the issue (I didn't use Fox News because, well, I do actually appreciate the truth and a news source that paid $787 million to settle a lawsuit after it was caught in blatant reportage lies); don't you ever actually ever read the posts you are responding to or do you just knee-jerk respond with whatever pap you find on your right wing 'news' sites?; or, maybe, you are of the belief you can bluster and bulldoze your way over anyone who dares to espouse a view you don't subscribe to; well, bulldozer, you are not an irresistible force, but I am an immovable object...

One other thing I have wanted to bring up: you have long made it a practice to belittle and demean arguments, and those who make them, particularly in regards to a particular member who has been the object of your unwarranted spite; this is further egregious given that, unlike you, he actually posts factual links to reputable sites, not tripe like Joe Rogan or other YT bottom feeders and he makes an effort to keep the discourse civil; honestly, I have a great appreciation and admiration for the patience and forbearance of Buddahaid...


In addition, your dismissal of 'foreign' news sources is real childish; the members from outside the US who share the viewpoint of their respective lands are actually far more informative and interesting than the dreck you tend to post; I have very often used non-US news sources to balance out my research into issues because very often what they say gives fresh eyes beyond the vanned news (from all sides) we get here in the US; quite often I have found out details that the media here in the US, for whatever reason, choose not to follow; all of those who are posting from the UK, Denmark, Oz, or anywhere else, keep posting; we could all use a dose of the new here...


Well, I'm done with my rant; to those, other than Rockstar, that I may have offended with my rant, I humbly apologize for steeping outside the lines; to the Mods, I accept any brigging that may come...



<O>


EDIT: Actually, I should apologize to Rockstar; it isn't fair to engage in a battle of wits with some who is unarmed...



<O>
Well you offended me, I think if you live west of the Rockies,You people live in a self contained bubble.Seperated from the rest of America.Am i right ? And the greatest rainbow university grads and the old power minds we have today in government.Want to Fu-K around and find out? If the Russian people are patriotic ?.And i think the Californians should experience the first bright flash of light.Ya see you have an open ocean to your west.And your children that we have came into contact with...Are the weird,They protest, After they run out of your money, they become homeless in what ever state they end up,Protesting in and the truth is after the city is burned. They can't get out, And when they do you are going to be a grandpa and a grandma when they get back home.To raise that child. And the story starts all over again.

[vienna]

Well you offended me, I think if you live west of the Rockies,You people live in a self contained bubble.Seperated from the rest of America.Am i right ? And the greatest rainbow university grads and the old power minds we have today in government.Want to Fu-K around and find out? If the Russian people are patriotic ?.And i think the Californians should experience the first bright flash of light.Ya see you have an open ocean to your west.And your children that we have came into contact with...Are the weird,They protest, After they run out of your money, they become homeless in what ever state they end up,Protesting in and the truth is after the city is burned. They can't get out, And when they do you are going to be a grandpa and a grandma when they get back home.To raise that child. And the story starts all over again.




You're amusing when you attempt lucidity; might I suggest an appropriate increase (maybe decrease) in your dosage...



Amazingly, you are a bit more lucid than the Giant Cheeto, which actually is not much of an accomplishment...






>O>

[Jimbuna]

Well, That is the past.Today Sir Starmer cuddled up with the Germans and together they said we stand with Ukraine to the end.My question is what is the end game.If NATO wants Nuclear war with Russia,Then why the hell are the politicians worried about the climate.
And really if it's war to the end ,USA,England,Canada,France,Germany. And all the sucker NATO countries.With no money from them,Tampons and helmets, only they sure as hell don't want to be targeted.
So we are left with the big 5...And RFK in America has said in 2022. NATO wanted war with Russia.I would say that,TRUMP has nothing to do with that.The Elite Politicians had that going, ya know Power is always hungry.

The horror is knowing that today the British people under Starmer will have to submit.To a new regime.I heard him say today it's my government! This guy with the rest of the elitist and the new world order.Damn sure will not have room for a Monarchy.Will it be like 1917? On November 7, 1917, a coup d'état went down in history as the October Revolution. Can a elitist group of individuals take over the UK. ?
The alarm bells are ringing.

And all that in just eight edits.

[Jimbuna]

I would seriously suggest you engage brain before putting words down in writing...





Yeah, Trump received an invitation, however I really can't find any indication, other than the family that did invite him, that any of the other families were onboard with the idea; also, an invitation to attend is not an invitation to turn a respectful, somber occasion into a self serving campaign photo-op; the rules of the occasion and the rules of ANC were explicitly, and in writing, given to Trump's minions and they chose to ignore the actual laws and regulations in order to aggrandize their boss/ butt-buddy; nothing you have posted denies that Trump and his jackals are actually at fault...





Still clutching those pearls, Camille? :03: You and I both know, if Harris, Walz, and/or Biden showed up you and your fellow clutchers would be howling about how they were desecrating the ceremony and the vets memories by turning the occasion into a crass, insincere campaign photo -op; you'd howl loud and long with puffed-up faux indignity about the whole thing; the difference here is that your boy is the main offender and some of us, who do care about giving the fallen a dignity beyond mere campaign politics, are actually offended that an over-vain slob who has made little secret for his disdain towards the military (remember, Trump was forced to admit in court to embezzling funds from a veterans charity and paid $2 million dollars to keep the case from going to criminal charges), who has insulted and denigrated soldiers who actually fought (and some who have died) in combat while he traipsed around on his bone spurs, and who has never shown any sincere feeling toward their sacrifices, would have the unmitigated gall to try and stand there' acting "presidential" and making himself the focus of attention rather than the fallen and their families...

Harris, Biden, Walz, and Biden didn't attend and that is probably for the better; the focus should be on those in the earth and those who they left behind...





Wow, talk about dense; the actual link to the ANC Rules & Regulations is actually in my previous post and I even went to the effort of posting a 'domestic' link to a story further expanding on the issue (I didn't use Fox News because, well, I do actually appreciate the truth and a news source that paid $787 million to settle a lawsuit after it was caught in blatant reportage lies); don't you ever actually ever read the posts you are responding to or do you just knee-jerk respond with whatever pap you find on your right wing 'news' sites?; or, maybe, you are of the belief you can bluster and bulldoze your way over anyone who dares to espouse a view you don't subscribe to; well, bulldozer, you are not an irresistible force, but I am an immovable object...

One other thing I have wanted to bring up: you have long made it a practice to belittle and demean arguments, and those who make them, particularly in regards to a particular member who has been the object of your unwarranted spite; this is further egregious given that, unlike you, he actually posts factual links to reputable sites, not tripe like Joe Rogan or other YT bottom feeders and he makes an effort to keep the discourse civil; honestly, I have a great appreciation and admiration for the patience and forbearance of Buddahaid...


In addition, your dismissal of 'foreign' news sources is real childish; the members from outside the US who share the viewpoint of their respective lands are actually far more informative and interesting than the dreck you tend to post; I have very often used non-US news sources to balance out my research into issues because very often what they say gives fresh eyes beyond the vanned news (from all sides) we get here in the US; quite often I have found out details that the media here in the US, for whatever reason, choose not to follow; all of those who are posting from the UK, Denmark, Oz, or anywhere else, keep posting; we could all use a dose of the new here...


Well, I'm done with my rant; to those, other than Rockstar, that I may have offended with my rant, I humbly apologize for steeping outside the lines; to the Mods, I accept any brigging that may come...



<O>


EDIT: Actually, I should apologize to Rockstar; it isn't fair to engage in a battle of wits with some who is unarmed...



<O>

Fair and balanced in my estimation.

[AVGWarhawk]

Dan Crenshaw,

"The Harris-Walz campaign keeps trying to sell us that Kamala has magically turned into a moderate. But take a hard look at who she keeps close—leftist radicals who were instrumental in pushing the Biden-Harris administration's unconstitutional student-loan forgiveness plan and progressive agenda.

Scratch beneath the veneer of artificial joy, hope, and laughter, and what you’ll find are the same radical policies that have driven America off course for almost 4 years."

[August]

Fair and balanced in my estimation.


Your estimations are flawed on many levels Mister Moderator.

[AVGWarhawk]

I find this strangely odd and bizarre. Looking at this picture all are smiling. The woman on the left is hand signaling like she is at a rock concert. It looks more like a party and good time. I guess some handle a memorial differently than others. I can't figure this lot out. To each their own. Perhaps this was after the ceremony. Great distraction to Zuckerberg and coming clean on censorship demanded by the Biden administration. Have a good day.

https://i.imgur.com/0YzrvOk.png

[Rockstar]

I would seriously suggest you engage brain before putting words down in writing...





Yeah, Trump received an invitation, however I really can't find any indication, other than the family that did invite him, that any of the other families were onboard with the idea; also, an invitation to attend is not an invitation to turn a respectful, somber occasion into a self serving campaign photo-op; the rules of the occasion and the rules of ANC were explicitly, and in writing, given to Trump's minions and they chose to ignore the actual laws and regulations in order to aggrandize their boss/ butt-buddy; nothing you have posted denies that Trump and his jackals are actually at fault...





Still clutching those pearls, Camille? :03: You and I both know, if Harris, Walz, and/or Biden showed up you and your fellow clutchers would be howling about how they were desecrating the ceremony and the vets memories by turning the occasion into a crass, insincere campaign photo -op; you'd howl loud and long with puffed-up faux indignity about the whole thing; the difference here is that your boy is the main offender and some of us, who do care about giving the fallen a dignity beyond mere campaign politics, are actually offended that an over-vain slob who has made little secret for his disdain towards the military (remember, Trump was forced to admit in court to embezzling funds from a veterans charity and paid $2 million dollars to keep the case from going to criminal charges), who has insulted and denigrated soldiers who actually fought (and some who have died) in combat while he traipsed around on his bone spurs, and who has never shown any sincere feeling toward their sacrifices, would have the unmitigated gall to try and stand there' acting "presidential" and making himself the focus of attention rather than the fallen and their families...

Harris, Biden, Walz, and Biden didn't attend and that is probably for the better; the focus should be on those in the earth and those who they left behind...





Wow, talk about dense; the actual link to the ANC Rules & Regulations is actually in my previous post and I even went to the effort of posting a 'domestic' link to a story further expanding on the issue (I didn't use Fox News because, well, I do actually appreciate the truth and a news source that paid $787 million to settle a lawsuit after it was caught in blatant reportage lies); don't you ever actually ever read the posts you are responding to or do you just knee-jerk respond with whatever pap you find on your right wing 'news' sites?; or, maybe, you are of the belief you can bluster and bulldoze your way over anyone who dares to espouse a view you don't subscribe to; well, bulldozer, you are not an irresistible force, but I am an immovable object...

One other thing I have wanted to bring up: you have long made it a practice to belittle and demean arguments, and those who make them, particularly in regards to a particular member who has been the object of your unwarranted spite; this is further egregious given that, unlike you, he actually posts factual links to reputable sites, not tripe like Joe Rogan or other YT bottom feeders and he makes an effort to keep the discourse civil; honestly, I have a great appreciation and admiration for the patience and forbearance of Buddahaid...


In addition, your dismissal of 'foreign' news sources is real childish; the members from outside the US who share the viewpoint of their respective lands are actually far more informative and interesting than the dreck you tend to post; I have very often used non-US news sources to balance out my research into issues because very often what they say gives fresh eyes beyond the vanned news (from all sides) we get here in the US; quite often I have found out details that the media here in the US, for whatever reason, choose not to follow; all of those who are posting from the UK, Denmark, Oz, or anywhere else, keep posting; we could all use a dose of the new here...


Well, I'm done with my rant; to those, other than Rockstar, that I may have offended with my rant, I humbly apologize for steeping outside the lines; to the Mods, I accept any brigging that may come...



<O>


EDIT: Actually, I should apologize to Rockstar; it isn't fair to engage in a battle of wits with some who is unarmed...



<O>


You sure do write a lot of words, some real tin foil hat stuff there what with all the anonymous sources, alleged wrong doing, statements with no proof. That’s a lot to sift through and piece together. No need to apologize though, I understand.

Btw back in the day Skybird used to write such wordy responses too. It took up most the bandwidth on the World Wide Web consuming so much power it dimmed city lights around the world when he posted.

But some mentioned to him then he should probably shorten it up a bit. Simple fact most people admitted they would just skip over it without even trying to read any of it.


http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/picture/realadam/tin3.jpg

[Buddahaid]

https://youtu.be/M9f4I1kSEfk?si=NShpc3MnDt4fkW5X

Vets weigh in on Trump’s parties disrespect.

[AVGWarhawk]

https://youtu.be/M9f4I1kSEfk?si=NShpc3MnDt4fkW5X

Vets weigh in on Trump’s parties disrespect.

So did another vet. Totally different take on it.

You know, if no pictures were taken Trump would be wrong. Simply showing up Trump is wrong. So hey, take a few pictures. Going to be wrong no matter what. :yeah:

[Jimbuna]

Your estimations are flawed on many levels Mister Moderator.

As are many of your responses toward myself.

[Buddahaid]

So did another vet. Totally different take on it.

You know, if no pictures were taken Trump would be wrong. Simply showing up Trump is wrong. So hey, take a few pictures. Going to be wrong no matter what. :yeah:

No, he can show respect and follow the rules and it's perfectly OK, but he doesn't have a clue how to do that, and never has had a clue. And if he can't do it, his staff can and stop him from being a fool.

Rules are easy to find if you care about being respectful of this hallowed ground.

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/regs.htm

[AVGWarhawk]

No, he can show respect and follow the rules and it's perfectly OK, but he doesn't have a clue how to do that, and never has had a clue. And if he can't do it, his staff can and stop him from being a fool.

Rules are easy to find if you care about being respectful of this hallowed ground.

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/regs.htm

No sir. No matter what he does there is something to complain about. It never ends.

But I agree, if the rules are in place they should be followed. However, the picture I posted above looks to be possibly from someone in attendance not of Trumps team. And, everyone is smiling like it is a family reunion. Just bizarre.

There is enough shame to go around. No show Biden or Harris at the ceremony(undeniable bad optics). No explanation of the poor planning of the withdrawal.

[Rockstar]

No, he can show respect and follow the rules and it's perfectly OK, but he doesn't have a clue how to do that, and never has had a clue. And if he can't do it, his staff can and stop him from being a fool.

Rules are easy to find if you care about being respectful of this hallowed ground.

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/regs.htm

I guess you didn’t bother reading those either. Might want to try stay away from non governmental sources.

I posted actual up to date media policy from Arlington National Cemetery government website earlier, still waiting for someone show me the federal law that prohibits photography hell doesn’t even have to be the allegation printed in the Guardian.

13 soldiers remembered that day victims of a botched withdrawal and all you can do is get on your high horse and piously chirp about hallowed ground and Trump.

You and the media destroyed that day and made it about you and your politics.

[AVGWarhawk]

The Biden-Harris DOJ re-indicts Trump by simply re-writing charges despite Supreme Court ruling. Just more interference with early voting and the election.

Harris Walz CNN interview is pre-taped. What a crock.

Please bring on the debates.

And another thing, how does Kamala feel about herself as her handlers know she is not up to the task and are working to make it look like she is? Is she that dumb enough to simply stand by in a empty pants suit pretending along? It appears she does.

[AVGWarhawk]

I guess you didn’t bother reading those either. Might want to try stay away from non governmental sources.

I posted actual up to date media policy from Arlington National Cemetery government website earlier, still waiting for someone show me the federal law that prohibits photography hell doesn’t even have to be the allegation printed in the Guardian.

13 soldiers remembered that day victims of a botched withdrawal and all you can do is get on your high horse and piously chirp about hallowed ground and Trump.

You and the media destroyed that day and made it about you and your politics.


I have to concur here. No matter what Trump does...IT IS WRONG. It is tiresome at best. And again, if he is wrong all the time...might as well video, take pictures and set up a BBQ for after ceremony party time.

And again. WTH was Biden and Harris???? Frick-in crickets. The Harris camp is quick to frown on Trump concerning the matter.

[Rockstar]

I have to concur here. No matter what Trump does...IT IS WRONG. It is tiresome at best. And again, if he is wrong all the time...might as well video, take pictures and set up a BBQ for after ceremony party time.

And again. WTH was Biden and Harris???? Frick-in crickets. The Harris camp is quick to frown on Trump concerning the matter.


All these self righteous pious crusaders on their high horse here couldn't name even one of those 13 fallen soldiers if they tried. The reality is they couldn’t care less about them they’d rather twist the day of remembrance into some pointless argument about Trump. Unfortunately they just can’t help themselves.


That is what a 24 year retired veteran thinks of you that kook fringe on MTN.

[AVGWarhawk]

All these self righteous pious crusaders on their high horse here couldn't name even one of those 13 fallen soldiers if they tried. The reality is they couldn’t care less about them they’d rather twist the day of remembrance into some pointless argument about Trump. Unfortunately they just can’t help themselves.


That is the opinion of veteran

It is truly incredible why the media has not asked why Biden/Harris were not there. Even Walz? This is why I say no matter what Trump does or in many cases has not done he is called out on it.

[August]

https://youtu.be/M9f4I1kSEfk?si=NShpc3MnDt4fkW5X

Vets weigh in on Trump’s parties disrespect.




Isn't that the same guy who was sniveling about Trump earlier?

[AVGWarhawk]

Isn't that the same guy who was sniveling about Trump earlier?

Yep.

[August]

All these self righteous pious crusaders on their high horse here couldn't name even one of those 13 fallen soldiers if they tried. The reality is they couldn’t care less about them they’d rather twist the day of remembrance into some pointless argument about Trump. Unfortunately they just can’t help themselves.

That is what a 24 year retired veteran thinks of you that kook fringe on MTN.


This veteran agrees. There are plenty of pictures of Biden walking around the graves at Arlington. None of them had a problem with that either.

[Dargo]

Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate’s campaign.

https://i.postimg.cc/d1yz0n9B/ANCstatement.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate’s campaign.

Funny thing is...I did not see a vote for Trump sign in the photo. Does anyone have such a photo that shows this as part of campaigning? I hear of a TikTok video. I have not see any. How is this any different?

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdnph.upi.com%2Fpv%2Fupi%2F9a832e 70a34ac4ab66a974a7a05fba56%2FBIDEN-VETERANS-DAY.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=3ce19120f70abcc78da4d9366ef10d6bc7c486e77c61d4 85a2b410146a61c270&ipo=images

[mapuc]

Funny thing is...I did not see a vote for Trump sign in the photo. Does anyone have such a photo that shows this as part of campaigning? I hear of a TikTok video. I have not see any. How is this any different?

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdnph.upi.com%2Fpv%2Fupi%2F9a832e 70a34ac4ab66a974a7a05fba56%2FBIDEN-VETERANS-DAY.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=3ce19120f70abcc78da4d9366ef10d6bc7c486e77c61d4 85a2b410146a61c270&ipo=images

No I can't see any, but the chance that he did it to gain votes can't be rejected either. This is not illegal is it ?

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

No I can't see any, but the chance that he did it to gain votes can't be rejected either. This is not illegal is it ?

Markus

There is no evidence he did this for votes. But darn it, the media is going to tell you it was. Was there a gallery of 5000 people behind him pumping Trump/Vance 2024 signs? The families asked him to come. The took a group photo. Some of the family are thumbs up and throwing gang signs for crying out loud. :doh:

[mapuc]

There is no evidence he did this for votes. But darn it, the media is going to tell you it was. Was there a gallery of 5000 people behind him pumping Trump/Vance 2024 signs? The families asked him to come. The took a group photo. Some of the family are thumbs up and throwing gang signs for crying out loud. :doh:

He was, as you mentioned, invited and that's good enough for me.

It's funny to read the comments. It all depends on where you stand. Those who are pro-Trump is defending him and those who's against him....

Markus

[Dargo]

He was, as you mentioned, invited and that's good enough for me.

It's funny to read the comments. It all depends on where you stand. Those who are pro-Trump is defending him and those who's against him....

MarkusThere’s no prohibition against taking photographs at the cemetery, but federal regulations bar “partisan political activities” from occurring at memorial services or other ceremonies held at National Military Cemeteries. “Participants in the August 26th ceremony and the subsequent Section 60 visit were made aware of federal laws, Army regulations and DoD policies, which clearly prohibit political activities on cemetery grounds,” an Army spokesperson said in a statement Thursday.

[AVGWarhawk]

There’s no prohibition against taking photographs at the cemetery, but federal regulations bar “partisan political activities” from occurring at memorial services or other ceremonies held at National Military Cemeteries. “Participants in the August 26th ceremony and the subsequent Section 60 visit were made aware of federal laws, Army regulations and DoD policies, which clearly prohibit political activities on cemetery grounds,” an Army spokesperson said in a statement Thursday.

I must have missed the partisan political activity. I have seen a picture of a family throwing gang signs, thumbs up and smiling. Can anyone point out the partisan political activity?

[Dargo]

I must have missed the partisan political activity. I have seen a picture of a family throwing gang signs, thumbs up and smiling. Can anyone point out the partisan political activity?You can try what you want, but these are the rules a cemetery official was trying to prevent filming and photography to ensure the federal law against politicizing cemetery grounds was respected.Arlington National Cemetery routinely hosts public wreath-laying ceremonies at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers for individuals and groups who submit requests in advance, ANC conducts nearly 3000 such public ceremonies a year without incident,” the rare Army statement read. “Participants in the August 26th ceremony and the subsequent Section 60 visit were made aware of federal laws, Army regulations and DoD policies, which clearly prohibit political activities on cemetery grounds.
https://i.postimg.cc/d1yz0n9B/ANCstatement.jpg

Cemetery officials said that they informed the Republican candidate’s campaign ahead of time that staff were prohibited from engaging in political activity. Despite this, Trump's campaign staff refused to heed an employee's reminder of the prohibition, reportedly verbally and physically abusing her; in a statement, the Trump campaign later attacked the employee, claiming she was mentally ill.An ANC employee who attempted to ensure adherence to these rules was abruptly pushed aside. Consistent with the decorum expected at ANC, this employee acted with professionalism and avoided further disruptions. The incident was unfortunate, and it is also unfortunate that that the ANC employee and her professionalism has been unfairly attacked. ANC is a national shrine to the honored dead of the Armed Forces, and its dedicated staff will continue to ensure the public ceremonies are conducted with the dignity and respect the nation's fallen deserve.

[AVGWarhawk]

You can try what you want, but these are the rules a cemetery official was trying to prevent filming and photography to ensure the federal law against politicizing cemetery grounds was respected.
https://i.postimg.cc/d1yz0n9B/ANCstatement.jpg

Cemetery officials said that they informed the Republican candidate’s campaign ahead of time that staff were prohibited from engaging in political activity. Despite this, Trump's campaign staff refused to heed an employee's reminder of the prohibition, reportedly verbally and physically abusing her; in a statement, the Trump campaign later attacked the employee, claiming she was mentally ill.

I will say it again. Where was the political activity? I did not see political signs or bumper stickers saying Trump Vance 2024.

[AVGWarhawk]

I think I'm coming down with HDS. Trump is irritating. Harris has him bet.

[Buddahaid]

I think I'm coming down with HDS. Trump is irritating. Harris has him bet.

The whole country is plagued with PDS. :O:

[Buddahaid]

Your estimations are flawed on many levels Mister Moderator.

Moderators have as much right to their opinion as you do Mister Member.

[AVGWarhawk]

The whole country is plagued with PDS. :O:

What is PDS?

[August]

Moderators have as much right to their opinion as you do Mister Member.


You have a point there mister buddin in?

[mapuc]

What is PDS?

Perhaps Peoples Denial Syndrome ?

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Perhaps Peoples Denial Syndrome ?

Markus

President Derangement Syndrome.

[Buddahaid]

You have a point there mister buddin in?

I made it.

[Reece]

^ That suits both parties atm!! :yep:

[August]

I made it.


Not to me. I didn't do anything like you are suggesting I did. You small d democrats really do love your strawman arguments dontcha?

[Buddahaid]

Not to me. I didn't do anything like you are suggesting I did. You small d democrats really do love your strawman arguments dontcha?

Funny how you are always telling me what I’m thinking.

What am I thinking now?
https://youtube.com/shorts/78jbWrcGMiE?si=JMnotZ1IE7ySVG9B

[August]

Funny how you are always telling me what I’m thinking.

What am I thinking now?
https://youtube.com/shorts/78jbWrcGMiE?si=JMnotZ1IE7ySVG9B


Don't care enough to ask.

[AVGWarhawk]

President Derangement Syndrome.

At least it is not PMS.

[AVGWarhawk]

CNN: “You said you carried weapons in war, but you’ve never deployed in a war zone…”

Walz: “… I speak candidly. I wear my emotions on my sleeves…”

CNN: “… You said that you were in war. Did you misspeak?”

Walz: “… My grammar is not always correct.”


Now you why the veterans I know don’t like Walz one bit he’s a lying b.s. artist.

Walz was a terrible pick as it turns out. Harris is still the same failed progressive she always has been. She will lie/flip flop right up to the election then switch if she wins.

[Rockstar]

Walz was a terrible pick as it turns out. Harris is still the same failed progressive she always has been. She will lie/flip flop right up to the election then switch if she wins.

Holy crap did you watch that interview? Bash asked Harris a question and rather than looking at the interviewer Harris would look down while she answered as if she was looking at a script.

[AVGWarhawk]

Holy crap did you watch that interview? Bash asked Harris a question and rather than looking at the interviewer Harris would look down while she answered as if she was looking at a script.

I did not watch the interview. I can not stomach Harris and her voice. Trump is not much better for me either. Anyway, she always looks away when answering. Some folks have pointed that out. Probably was a teleprompter on the floor. I understand Walz was basically the "Amen Brother" after her answers and just smiled the entire time.

I had more important things to do then watch this scripted BS. I'm glad to say my sock drawer is organized now.

[Rockstar]

I did not watch the interview. I can not stomach Harris and her voice. Trump is not much better for me either. Anyway, she always looks away when answering. Some folks have pointed that out. Probably was a teleprompter on the floor. I understand Walz was basically the "Amen Brother" after her answers and just smiled the entire time.

I had more important things to do then watch this scripted BS. I'm glad to say my sock drawer is organized now.

One thing about Trump is he will let you know what’s on his mind and as those poor souls at the RNC found out doesn’t shut up until someone drags him off stage. :lol:

[AVGWarhawk]

One thing about Trump is he will let you know what’s on his mind and as those poor souls at the RNC found out doesn’t shut up until someone drags him off stage.

Yes, Trump does speak his mind. None of this should be a surprise to anyone. Yet, the media reports on Trump like this is all new to everyone. If I hear "democracy will be gone if Trump wins" one more time my head will fall off. He will start a war!! None of this happened the 4 years he was president.

[Buddahaid]

Yes, Trump does speak his mind. None of this should be a surprise to anyone. Yet, the media reports on Trump like this is all new to everyone. If I hear "democracy will be gone if Trump wins" one more time my head will fall off. He will start a war!! None of this happened the 4 years he was president.

And that's exactly what MAGA says about Harris isn't it? Let's see, "you will not have a country again" or some such. :hmmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

And that's exactly what MAGA says about Harris isn't it? Let's see, "you will not have a country again" or some such. :hmmm:

You are not comprehending here. It is the same old song and dance from 2016. Democracy will be gone. He will start a war. NONE of this happened. But the talking heads are going to chant it again anyway. It is broken record.

[ET2SN]

OK, since some of you- with strong opinions- didn't bother to watch or listen to the Harris/Walz interview, here's a fair break down from some former GOP talking heads. :up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy4ufK5VOds

It should be noted that Tim's high water mark was as the speech writer/handler of Sarah Palin. So, you need to take a lot of what he says as Sour Grapes.

What did we see, if we bothered to watch the interview? Harris and Walz are Democrats running on a Centrist platform. That's about as boring as it gets because Centrists don't believe in giving one person or group the entire pie.
As long as everybody is mostly happy, they win. That means not giving in to the loonies on either fringe.

Some of CNN's questions were pretty dumb. That's because CNN has always been the "Let's watch 'em fight" channel for politics. I was hoping to hear a question or two on the subjects of Ukraine/Russia, Palestine/Israel, and Taiwan/China or how they would improve the armed forces in general, but that was aiming pretty high in this setting. :timeout:

So, did Harris and Walz tap dance over the entire interview? Yeah, pretty much. :yep: Again, they are running a Centrist campaign with a Centrist agenda. What did you expect? The last thing they were going to do was provide fertilizer for the MAGA hit squad and the FSB. :03:

[Jimbuna]

Bands/Artists that have objected to the use of their music at Trump rallies include...

Abba
Bruce Springsteen
Rihanna
Phil Collins
Pharrell
Adele
John Fogerty
Eddy Grant
R.E.M.
Guns N’ Roses
Rolling Stones
Neil Young
Linkin Park
Black Sabbath
Prince
Tom Petty
Aerosmith
Smiths
Beyonce
Celine Dion
Foo Fighters

It's almost as if a conspiracy is afoot.

[AVGWarhawk]

OK, since some of you- with strong opinions- didn't bother to watch or listen to the Harris/Walz interview, here's a fair break down from some former GOP talking heads. :up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy4ufK5VOds

It should be noted that Tim's high water mark was as the speech writer/handler of Sarah Palin. So, you need to take a lot of what he says as Sour Grapes.

What did we see, if we bothered to watch the interview? Harris and Walz are Democrats running on a Centrist platform. That's about as boring as it gets because Centrists don't believe in giving one person or group the entire pie.
As long as everybody is mostly happy, they win. That means not giving in to the loonies on either fringe.

Some of CNN's questions were pretty dumb. That's because CNN has always been the "Let's watch 'em fight" channel for politics. I was hoping to hear a question or two on the subjects of Ukraine/Russia, Palestine/Israel, and Taiwan/China or how they would improve the armed forces in general, but that was aiming pretty high in this setting. :timeout:

So, did Harris and Walz tap dance over the entire interview? Yeah, pretty much. :yep: Again, they are running a Centrist campaign with a Centrist agenda. What did you expect? The last thing they were going to do was provide fertilizer for the MAGA hit squad and the FSB. :03:

Running a Centrist platform because she is to far left we can't see her. Her voting records shows this. She is not fooling anyone. Well, some. :doh: She does not get to change overnight for votes. But trying This is a bait and switch. She might as well be running in the Republican ticket because she is mirroring Trump. But that will change as soon as she is in office.

[AVGWarhawk]

Bands/Artists that have objected to the use of their music at Trump rallies include...

Abba
Bruce Springsteen
Rihanna
Phil Collins
Pharrell
Adele
John Fogerty
Eddy Grant
R.E.M.
Guns N’ Roses
Rolling Stones
Neil Young
Linkin Park
Black Sabbath
Prince
Tom Petty
Aerosmith
Smiths
Beyonce
Celine Dion
Foo Fighters

It's almost as if a conspiracy is afoot.

I believed many find life easier if they stay out of politics Taylor Swift can sway a lot of votes. She stays out of it. Probably a good idea. But, there is a Swifties for Harris group. :doh:

[Jimbuna]

Beyonce as well, blocked Trump but has allowed Harris :hmmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

Beyonce as well, blocked Trump but has allowed Harris :hmmm:

I think Beyonce was supposed to show up at the DNC. She didn't. She was a Obama fan from what I recall. But hey, Kid Rock like Trump. A few others in the music industry.

[Jimbuna]

The thing is, if these artists own the rights to their work which they obviously do, they can and will dictate who they allow.

Sad day when music and politics clash but then again I suppose you could add a whole lot more subjects to the list.

[ET2SN]

Running a Centrist platform because she is to far left we can't see her.

No, I mentioned this to you a long time ago. :O:
I wrote that if you took a deep look into Harris and her political beliefs, you would find a lot of things to like. :yep:
She was really tough on crime as a prosecutor, meaning that she put all kinds of criminals in jail. That made her a tough sell in her own party. :yep:

Don't rely on the Russian troll farms and GOP rat bleepers, be honest with yourself and make your own decision. :)

[AVGWarhawk]

No, I mentioned this to you a long time ago. :O:
I wrote that if you took a deep look into Harris and her political beliefs, you would find a lot of things to like. :yep:
She was really tough on crime as a prosecutor, meaning that she put all kinds of criminals in jail. That made her a tough sell in her own party. :yep:

Don't rely on the Russian troll farms and GOP rat bleepers, be honest with yourself and make your own decision. :)

You mean the woman who put pot smokers in jail but giggled when asked if she smoked weed. Tough on crime gets you so far. How does she do on the economy? How is the border doing? Right now crime is very low on my list. She does not cut it for running a country.

[Rockstar]

You mean the woman who put pot smokers in jail but giggled when asked if she smoked weed. Tough on crime gets you so far. How does she do on the economy? How is the border doing? Right now crime is very low on my list. She does not cut it for running a country.

I reckon they weren’t lying when they said she slept her way to the top. How else could someone that stupid get to the position she’s in?

[AVGWarhawk]

I reckon they weren’t lying when they said she slept her way to the top. How else could someone that stupid get to the position she’s in?

Yep......

[Jimbuna]

I think Beyonce was supposed to show up at the DNC. She didn't. She was a Obama fan from what I recall. But hey, Kid Rock like Trump. A few others in the music industry.

Crikey! here's another one Chris, I reckon word must be travelling around and they're all jumping on the bandwagon (no pun intended) :)

Jack White rages against Trump campaign’s use of his music: ‘Lawsuit coming’

Jack White has threatened to sue Donald Trump’s campaign over the use of his former rock duo The White Stripes’s hit “Seven Nation Army.”

On Thursday (August 29), the guitarist and singer shared a screen recording of a since-deleted clip posted to X by Trump’s deputy director of communications, Margo Martin, showing the former president boarding a flight to Michigan and Wisconsin.

The footage was overlayed with the 2003 song’s famous instrumental intro.

“Oh....Don’t even think about using my music you fascists,” White wrote in the caption of the Instagram post. “Lawsuit coming from my lawyers about this (to add to your 5 thousand others.) Have a great day at work today Margo Martin.”

He angrily continued: “And as long as I’m here, a double ******* you DonOLD for insulting our nation’s veterans at Arlington you scum. You should lose every military family’s vote immediately from that if ANYTHING makes sense anymore.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/jack-white-rages-against-trump-campaign-s-use-of-his-music-lawsuit-coming/ar-AA1pIZXP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=45ebe1f61ffc4fdea4d221cf93cffb00&ei=44

[AVGWarhawk]

Crikey! here's another one Chris, I reckon word must be travelling around and they're all jumping on the bandwagon (no pun intended) :)

It just ends up being bad if artist permits usage of their songs, etc. It goes both ways. Jack Black and his little band shut it down after his band mate said the gunman didn't miss Trump. There was outrage of course. Fans get upset. And it does give a picture of the artist supporting said candidate when they don't.

[Jimbuna]

It just ends up being bad if artist permits usage of their songs, etc. It goes both ways. Jack Black and his little band shut it down after his band mate said the gunman didn't miss Trump. There was outrage of course. Fans get upset. And it does give a picture of the artist supporting said candidate when they don't.

Yeah :yep:

[ET2SN]

You mean the woman who put pot smokers in jail but giggled when asked if she smoked weed. Tough on crime gets you so far. How does she do on the economy? How is the border doing? Right now crime is very low on my list. She does not cut it for running a country.

Which is what the Russian troll farms and the GOP rat bleepers want you to believe. :yep:

Look, its obvious you won't believe me. So, ask some of the really big wigs in US business. Not the moon bats in tech who play D&D and WarThunder in costume, I mean the board rooms of the really big corporations who actually make and sell stuff. :yep:

They want a strong NATO with the US providing most of the muscle. That gives them a big stick so they can find the cheapest possible labor to make their crap and millions/billions of potential customers to buy it. They want the US CVG's prowling off the coasts of Asia for the same reason.

What they don't want is the US withdrawing into a shell and telling the rest of the world to go bleep themselves.

That message is coming from Russia and China. :yep: They want us in chaos. They would be really happy if we fell headlong into Isolationism and, better yet, a true civil war. It gets us out of their way. :yep:

At this point you should also REALLY consider the alternative to Harris and Walz. Trump, and be honest with your self, blundered his way thru a global pandemic and set up as much chaos as he could in Europe and Asia. Biden had to work over time just to calm down our allies.
You think Biden is a chump? Look at who set the table up for him. :03:

The one thing I'm looking for is STABILTY. Believe it or not, I used to like voting a split ticket where the party didn't matter but the results did. :up:
I'd like to get back there again.

[AVGWarhawk]

Which is what the Russian troll farms and the GOP rat bleepers want you to believe. :yep:

Look, its obvious you won't believe me. So, ask some of the really big wigs in US business. Not the moon bats in tech who play D&D and WarThunder in costume, I mean the board rooms of the really big corporations who actually make and sell stuff. :yep:

They want a strong NATO with the US providing most of the muscle. That gives them a big stick so they can find the cheapest possible labor to make their crap and millions/billions of potential customers to buy it. They want the US CVG's prowling off the coasts of Asia for the same reason.

What they don't want is the US withdrawing into a shell and telling the rest of the world to go bleep themselves.

That message is coming from Russia and China. :yep: They want us in chaos. They would be really happy if we fell headlong into Isolationism and, better yet, a true civil war. It gets us out of their way. :yep:

At this point you should also REALLY consider the alternative to Harris and Walz. Trump, and be honest with your self, blundered his way thru a global pandemic and set up as much chaos as he could in Europe and Asia. Biden had to work over time just to calm down our allies.
You think Biden is a chump? Look at who set the table up for him. :03:

The one thing I'm looking for is STABILTY. Believe it or not, I used to like voting a split ticket where the party didn't matter but the results did. :up:
I'd like to get back there again.

It takes more the being tough on crime and sleeping with Brown to run a country. She doesn't have it in her to run a country. You will not convince me of that. She is easily manipulated and will a pawn.

[Buddahaid]

Beyonce as well, blocked Trump but has allowed Harris :hmmm:

It's a question of requesting permission before using copyright protected material.

[Rockstar]

It's a question of requesting permission before using copyright protected material.

No it’s not.


Do Politicians Need a Musician's Permission to Play One of Their Songs at a Campaign Event?

By Jake Rossen |Jul 6, 2020

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/625985/do-politicians-need-permission-play-music-at-campaign-events

Whether it’s the songwriter, the performer, or the recording label, someone always owns the rights to a song. Whether or not one needs permission to play that song depends a lot on the circumstances. A DJ at a wedding doesn’t need to worry about any consequences for playing Peter Gabriel's “In Your Eyes” or The Righteous Brothers's “Unchained Melody.” Sports arenas can pipe in the Rolling Stones's “Start Me Up” without a release.

In the world of politics, however, campaigns and rallies that rely on music to stir up crowds often come under fire for unauthorized use. What’s the reason?

According to Rolling Stone, it’s not typically an issue over copyright, though using a song without permission is technically copyright infringement. If a song is played in a public venue like a stadium or arena that has a public performance license, no permission is needed. The license is typically granted through a songwriters’ association like the American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers (ASCAP) or Broadcast Music, Inc. (BMI). Even so, ASCAP still recommends [PDF] that political campaigns seek out permission from the musicians or songwriters, as these licenses exclude music played during conventions or campaign events.

Additionally, most artists aren’t concerned with their music being played at a wedding or sporting event. It is, after all, a form of free publicity and exposure, and no one is really making any substantial amount of money from their work. But the political realm is different. Because artists might have differing political beliefs than a candidate using their music, they sometimes grow concerned that use of their material might be construed as an endorsement.

That’s when artists can begin to make noise about wanting politicians to stop playing their music. In this instance, they can object on the basis of their Right of Publicity—a legal argument that covers how their image is portrayed. They can make the assertion that use of their work infringes on their right to not be associated with a subject they find objectionable. Other arguments can be raised through the Lanham Act, which covers trademark confusion (or a False Endorsement), which addresses the implication an artist is endorsing a political message if their music is used.

In 2008, for example, Jackson Browne won a lawsuit against John McCain and the national and Ohio GOP when the McCain campaign used Browne’s song “Running on Empty” in ads attacking Barack Obama over gas conservation.

Even if the musician isn’t supportive of a candidate, it’s not always advisable to take such action. A contentious legal confrontation can often result in more publicity than if a musician simply let the campaign continue uninterrupted. Other times, recording artists feel strongly enough about distancing themselves from a message they disagree with that they’ll take whatever steps are necessary.

The bottom line? More often than not, a song played during a campaign isn’t there because an artist or label gave their permission. And unless the artist strenuously objects to the campaign message and is willing to get into a legal tussle, they probably can’t do a whole lot to stop it.

[mapuc]

No it’s not.


Do Politicians Need a Musician's Permission to Play One of Their Songs at a Campaign Event?

By Jake Rossen |Jul 6, 2020

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/625985/do-politicians-need-permission-play-music-at-campaign-events

You can boil it down to one thing-Who do they like and Trump they dislike

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Concerning Harris' economic plan, how is a 1 time child tax credit going to help the economy? A child under 1 year of age gets the credit. Trump's child tax credit is much better. $25k to first time home buyers. How will this lessen the burden of today's economy? Will this be another housing crash crisis in the making? Taxes on unrealized gains? Best of luck. When ever a Democrat says "investment" there is never a return. Investment of your tax dollars. No return.

[Buddahaid]

No it’s not.


Do Politicians Need a Musician's Permission to Play One of Their Songs at a Campaign Event?

By Jake Rossen |Jul 6, 2020

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/625985/do-politicians-need-permission-play-music-at-campaign-events

" VI CONCLUSION

The tension between musicians and politicians has intensified during
the campaign trail. It is clear that artists do not want their songs standing
for a political figure they do not agree with. While campaigns can acquire
blanket licenses through performing rights organizations, some campaigns
have resorted to using music without permission because artists tend to be
left leaning and more liberal. A politician’s use of a song may not only
change the meaning of a song, but also show an association among a
musician and particular political party. In light of recent suits, artists’
public statements, and negative publicity, some politicians have
surrendered and stopped use of a song when requested. However, despite
countless artists who have spoken out against Trump’s use of their music
during campaign rallies and advertisements, Trump continued to use their
music. The Grant v. Trump decision was a win for artists everywhere and
will hopefully prove the importance of requesting permission to use an
artist’s copyrighted work moving forward."

https://repository.law.miami.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1420&context=umblr

[Rockstar]

" VI CONCLUSION

The tension between musicians and politicians has intensified during
the campaign trail. It is clear that artists do not want their songs standing
for a political figure they do not agree with. While campaigns can acquire
blanket licenses through performing rights organizations, some campaigns
have resorted to using music without permission because artists tend to be
left leaning and more liberal. A politician’s use of a song may not only
change the meaning of a song, but also show an association among a
musician and particular political party. In light of recent suits, artists’
public statements, and negative publicity, some politicians have
surrendered and stopped use of a song when requested. However, despite
countless artists who have spoken out against Trump’s use of their music
during campaign rallies and advertisements, Trump continued to use their
music. The Grant v. Trump decision was a win for artists everywhere and hopefully prove the importance of requesting permission will always to use an artist’s copyrighted work moving forward."

https://repository.law.miami.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1420&context=umblr

I guess you did read the article I posted either. Pretty much said the same thing. Copy write is not really the issue it’s the perception, how the music is used, and the artist not wanting be seen as endorsing a candidate.

hopefully it will prove the importance of a candidate requesting permission. Then again maybe it won’t

[Otto Harkaman]

Asking ChatGPT

What is the current Financial Industries' opinion of Kamala Harris and her economic policy?

The financial industry's opinion of Kamala Harris and her economic policy is one of cautious scrutiny. While Harris is viewed as generally pragmatic, her support for policies that could lead to increased regulation and higher taxes, particularly on the wealthy and corporations, raises concerns among Wall Street investors. The industry is wary of her potential impact on sectors like technology and finance, given her alignment with more progressive elements of the Democratic Party on issues like income inequality and corporate accountability.

Give some sources on Kamala Harris and the Financial sector

For detailed insights on Kamala Harris and the financial sector's perspective on her economic policies, you can explore the following sources:


Financial Times: Offers analysis on Wall Street's reaction to Harris and potential implications of her economic policies. Financial Times (https://www.ft.com) (Subscription required)
Bloomberg: Provides coverage on how financial markets and investors perceive Kamala Harris, including her stance on regulation and taxation. Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com)
Wall Street Journal: Discusses the financial industry's concerns and expectations regarding Harris's economic policies. Wall Street Journal (https://www.wsj.com) (Subscription required)

These sources will give you a broad view of the financial sector's opinions and concerns.

What is the current Financial Industries' opinion of Donald Trump and his economic policy?

The financial industry's opinion on Donald Trump's economic policy is largely divided, with some elements viewed favorably and others raising concerns.
Positive Views:


Tax Cuts: Many in the financial sector appreciate Trump's commitment to making the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act provisions permanent, as these cuts are seen as beneficial for wealthy individuals, small businesses, and real estate investors. The lower corporate tax rate and individual tax cuts have been credited with boosting economic growth and increasing revenues during his first term​(Financial Planning (https://www.financial-planning.com/news/harris-and-trump-offer-differing-economic-proposals-and-financial-advisors-take-note)).
Deregulation: Trump's emphasis on reducing regulations is welcomed by investors, particularly in sectors like energy and finance, where less oversight is seen as an opportunity for increased profits​(Fox Business (https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/trump-details-plans-turn-economy-around-we-might-well-leader)).

Concerns:


Tariffs: Trump's aggressive use of tariffs, particularly against China and other trading partners, is a point of concern. Many in the financial sector worry that such policies could lead to higher costs for consumers and businesses, potentially fueling inflation and disrupting global supply chains​(Fox Business (https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/trump-details-plans-turn-economy-around-we-might-well-leader)).
Market Volatility: There is also apprehension about the potential for increased market volatility under Trump's leadership, especially if his policies on tariffs and trade lead to further economic uncertainty​(Financial Planning (https://www.financial-planning.com/news/harris-and-trump-offer-differing-economic-proposals-and-financial-advisors-take-note)).

Overall, while Trump's policies of tax cuts and deregulation are popular among many investors, his approach to trade and tariffs creates significant concerns about the long-term stability and health of the economy.

Give some sources on Donald Trump and the Financial sector

For insights on Donald Trump and the financial sector, you can refer to the following sources:


Fox Business: Provides a detailed discussion of Trump's economic plans, including tax cuts, tariffs, and deregulation, and how these policies are perceived by the financial industry.

Fox Business (https://www.foxbusiness.com)​(Fox Business (https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/trump-details-plans-turn-economy-around-we-might-well-leader))


Financial Planning: Compares the economic proposals of Trump and other candidates, offering perspectives from financial advisors on how Trump's policies might influence the market, particularly regarding taxes and tariffs.

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[ET2SN]

It takes more the being tough on crime and sleeping with Brown to run a country. She doesn't have it in her to run a country. You will not convince me of that. She is easily manipulated and will a pawn.

Seriously, you want to go there? :har:

Gee, if only there was a job where you could pick up OJT on how to run the country.. :hmmm: Maybe something like "The President's #1 Helper" or maybe a title like "President Of The US Senate". You know, a position where she could learn how to do all of this President stuff. :D

Would it make you happy if she cozied up to Putin or Kim? Which brutal dictator would be better when it comes to being manipulated? :03:

Do me favor and at least the read the crap you copy before you paste it. :up: You won't have to shovel it as high to cover a point. :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

Seriously, you want to go there? :har:

Gee, if only there was a job where you could pick up OJT on how to run the country.. :hmmm: Maybe something like "The President's #1 Helper" or maybe a title like "President Of The US Senate". You know, a position where she could learn how to do all of this President stuff. :D

Would it make you happy if she cozied up to Putin or Kim? Which brutal dictator would be better when it comes to being manipulated? :03:

Do me favor and at least the read the crap you copy before you paste it. :up: You won't have to shovel it as high to cover a point. :yep:

I've come to the conclusion you are clueless.

[mapuc]

But the much publicized CNN interview did not reveal much new – and at the same time one of Harris's major weaknesses was exposed.

https://www-bt-dk.translate.goog/udland/korrespondent-om-kamala-harris-foerste-store-interview-det-osede-simpelthen-af?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

More Walz fabrication. This guy lies a lot. He is catching up to Trump.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tim-walz-fabricated-key-details-of-political-origin-story-that-involved-being-turned-away-at-george-w-bush-rally-records/ar-AA1pJNym?ocid=emmx-mmx-feeds&PC=EMMX01

[Skybird]

Saw a few excerpts of that Harris-Walz-CNN "interview", not too much, I do not care too much. Did Harris actually say something substantial? To me she was only dancing on tiptoes to not do so. And why Walz by her side? Afraid of walking the walk all by herself and alone?

[Buddahaid]

The same federal judge that denied Trump’s first attempt to remove the State hush money election interference case to federal court has denied the second attempt today.