US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Rockstar]

More bananas for you.
Fulton County D.A. Fani Willis is seeking for a March 4, 2024 trial date for Donald Trump, right in the middle of election season.

They are actively interfering in the 2024 election right in front of your eyes and they don't even care.

Earlier this week, Willis acted oblivious to how Trump's indictment could be posted online before the grand jury even voted on it.

Remarkable how the left is successfully rigging elections through the 'justice' system.

The FBI did it in 2020 and it is happening again.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power by — if we — if he does run. I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/11/09/remarks-by-president-biden-in-press-conference-8/





https://drrichswier.com/wp-content/uploads/us-banana-republic-630x349.jpg

[Skybird]

:har: Trump scraps plans to release 'irrefutable report' claiming election fraud in Georgia :har:



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-scraps-plans-releasing-report-georgia-election-rcna100515


I bet that was in the best Merkelian sense "unavoidable"! :har:

[Jimbuna]

Best put the popcorn back in the cupboard then.

[mapuc]

:har: Trump scraps plans to release 'irrefutable report' claiming election fraud in Georgia :har:



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-scraps-plans-releasing-report-georgia-election-rcna100515


I bet that was in the best Merkelian sense "unavoidable"! :har:

One may like or dislike him, but he knows how to put up a political show.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

The Republicans and Democrats should be referred to as The Greatest Show on Earth.
Lord knows they have all the Clowns they need!

[Rockstar]

:har: Trump scraps plans to release 'irrefutable report' claiming election fraud in Georgia :har:



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-scraps-plans-releasing-report-georgia-election-rcna100515


I bet that was in the best Merkelian sense "unavoidable"! :har:

Sounds funny. But read Trump’s post.

Rather than releasing the Report on the Rigged & Stolen Georgia 2020 Presidential Election on Monday, my lawyers would prefer putting this, I believe, Irrefutable & Overwhelming evidence of Election Fraud & Irregularities in formal Legal Filings as we fight to dismiss this disgraceful Indictment by a publicity & campaign finance seeking D.A., who sadly presides over a record breaking Murder & Violent Crime area, Atlanta. Therefore, the News Conference is no longer necessary

Regardless of wether he has any evidence or not. What do you think people will now believe if or when the court throws the accusations in the indictment out or there is a verdict of not guilty.

They will mostly believe it was because of the “irrefutable proof” of election fraud.

Have some bananas.

[Skybird]

He will elaborate it into a Kafkaesque odyssey. In the end somebody will break open his high security safe as big as a full mansion plus garden and parking lots and with locks the size of trailer trucks, and he will find it so empty that even the echo goes lost in there.

[mapuc]

They will mostly believe it was because of the “irrefutable proof” of election fraud.

As I have said before-Voters on both side, tried to cheat at the 2019 election-Not all of them of course.

In all the election was fair and square.

This is what I got from reading some of the reports than was made after the election.
And I who is an ausländer does not care about who's your President I only care that the election was fair and square.

Markus

[em2nought]

As I have said before-Voters on both side, tried to cheat at the 2019 election-Not all of them of course.

In all the election was fair and square.

This is what I got from reading some of the reports than was made after the election.
And I who is an ausländer does not care about who's your President I only care that the election was fair and square.

Markus
How could it be fair? The so called press, elites, & powers that be started attacking President Trump before he even won, and they didn't let up to this very day. It mattered not to them if they were telling lies or truth as no one was going to call them on it. Rhinos surely weren't happy he was elected as guess what they're part of the swamp. How could that possibly make for a fair playing field. I imagine Hitler and Tojo got less bad press during WW2 from all the allies combined than President Trump received during the last seven years from the USA and our so called allies. Before he came out as a Republican they all loved him. If I had to bet I'd guess that Covid-19 "happened" to stop President Trump, and when it didn't look like even that was going to work election rules got "changed" just before the big show. :arrgh!: So fair? I don't think so.

[Buddahaid]

You’ve got it upside down. The RINO’s in the room are the MAGA republicans. Just embrace it.

Meanwhile Ron Hedlund, a Virginia GOP Central Committee Representative, demonstrates the moral high ground by displaying a giant penus sign with Biden’s head on it at a youth baseball game.

[mapuc]

How could it be fair? The so called press, elites, & powers that be started attacking President Trump before he even won, and they didn't let up to this very day. It mattered not to them if they were telling lies or truth as no one was going to call them on it. Rhinos surely weren't happy he was elected as guess what they're part of the swamp. How could that possibly make for a fair playing field. I imagine Hitler and Tojo got less bad press during WW2 from all the allies combined than President Trump received during the last seven years from the USA and our so called allies. Before he came out as a Republican they all loved him. If I had to bet I'd guess that Covid-19 "happened" to stop President Trump, and when it didn't look like even that was going to work election rules got "changed" just before the big show. :arrgh!: So fair? I don't think so.

I'm not taking about the press and people on social media
I'm talking about the ordinary voting at the voting stations.
Where voters can use their votes and say who they prefer being the next President. That process was fair-From my point of view

Change of election rules-This was new to me.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

We are stuck with this thing called 'The Electoral College'.
It's BS in my opinion.

[Catfish]

^ I was surprised when i heard about that forst, made me think of the medieval european "electoral" process with only those nobles (Churfuersten) being allowed to choose the new king :D

[Skybird]

The modern states are a continuation of the old ancient medival feudal regimes under a new lable.

States today are a clique of looters and parasites called the civil service and the public sector, contributing nothing of value, but parasitically feeding off the actual working population by sucking from it, in ever deeper draughts.

The only task that gives a state some justification is to defend its borders against external invaders, and this is categorically denied, both in terms of military invaders and illegal migration flows, at least in the case of Germany. With this refusal to work, this state no longer has a right to exist, in my eyes, and it has forfeited any claim to respect and loyalty.

To hell with statism. It is the most powerful and vicious form of organized crime, and cleverly hides behind a sweetheart mask. To hell with state entities - ALL of them. Every form of state leads sooner or later to dictatorship - EVERY ONE. Every state is every free man's deadliest enemy. The state is the violator of contracts, but you cannot sue it. The state is the violator of its own laws, but you cannot hold it accountable. The state is the breaker of rules it imposes on everbyody, but you cannot bring it to justice. The state is the maker of rules that maximse its profits and minimize defences against abusive behaviour by the state. The state is the designer of laws that are designed to make it untouchable in its criminal nature.

That's why I wouldn't even lift my little finger from the tabletop and lower it again to defend Germany. There are things worth fighting for, qualities, ideals, rights. The superwoke socialist unworldly know-it-all Germany of today is not one of them, and deserves only contempt. I am choosy when it comes to using my life. That is wise. We all have only one life, so we should be choosy in whose service we risk it and for what. States are not one of them.

[ET2SN]

The modern states are a continuation of the old ancient medival feudal regimes under a new lable.

States today are a clique of looters and parasites called the civil service and the public sector, contributing nothing of value, but parasitically feeding off the actual working population by sucking from it, in ever deeper draughts.





Just an FYI, in the states the civil service are folks like police, fire dept. and the US Mail. Elitist, yes, but they also deliver mail, write speeding tickets, and put out fires. :yep:

The public sector is, well, the rest of us. :O:

[Skybird]

None of that needs a super master state to be formed and run. A company that can be sued if it fails what it got paid for, would be better.

The treaty between the citizen and the state gets betrayed by the state all time, in the money inflation, declaration of wars against other states, ruinous taxes, debts rises that again damage the private citizen and so forth. And it cannot be sued, but can make you pay for it, even if it betrays you.

Such contracts I do not see as legit. You must have the option to sue the other side if it fails its contract duties. The states we live in betray us all time long, in economics and politics and corruption and cultural destruction.

Nurses, policemen and firmen all can be employeed by companies, they must not be on the wage list of states. Same for teachers, btw.

Populations only must make one thing sure: that there is competition, and no monopolists. Then all these services have an own interest in doing a good job: because if they prevent damage, they must not invest even higher costs in damage consequences, also cannot be sued.

States can dance on our noses and suck our blood, and there is nothing we can do about - only tearing them down.

No, the times I am neutral or friendly on states, are over. I dispise them. Them all. They deserve neither trust, nor obedience, nor my money.

[August]

^ I was surprised when i heard about that forst, made me think of the medieval european "electoral" process with only those nobles (Churfuersten) being allowed to choose the new king :D


No nobles, that's a European thing. We are the United STATES of America and the President is elected by those states as it should be.

[Buddahaid]

With one set of electors representing the vote of the majority in each State. Not what MAGA attempted to corrupt as sore losers.

[Jimbuna]

Oh for the love of GOD! :o

'Useful American idiot' Trump facing furious backlash for boasting about Putin closeness

Donald Trump saying he was the "apple" of Vladimir Putin's eye is sparking some harsh criticism.

Trump, who has long been open about having a good relationship with the Russian president, reportedly said in a Fox interview that Putin never would have invaded Ukraine if he had been president. "I was the apple of his eye," the former president said in the interview.

The response was swift.

David Frum, a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, said helping Trump to become the president was Putin's "supreme accomplishment as dictator."

"A perverse truth here. Helping Trump into the US presidency was Putin's supreme accomplishment as dictator. A Trump 2nd term would have wrecked NATO from within," Frum wrote Saturday. "With no one to help it, Ukraine would have been easy pickings for Putin."

Conservative attorney and Trump-critic George Conway also chimed in, calling Trump a "Kremlin asset."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/useful-american-idiot-trump-facing-furious-backlash-for-boasting-about-putin-closeness/ar-AA1fuOVc?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e30d0252922b411ca3984c33352fc48e&ei=7

[mapuc]

No nobles, that's a European thing. We are the United STATES of America and the President is elected by those states as it should be.

This is what I also understand by the way your country is put together.

Or you would have what 52 President if each state had to vote for the President of USA. With no Electoral

Markus

[mapuc]

This is not good at all.

One thing is that the name of the Jury is public in the State of Georgia, another thing is threatening them.

Many of the users launched direct attacks on the grand jurors - going so far as to share their names and details about their purported social media profiles.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/grand-jurors-dox-trump-indictment-b2393831.html

Markus

[Skybird]

Reminds of Germany. Recently a left "activist" group released names and addresses of AfD members and supporters - with a barely hidden implied call to kill them.
RAF 2.0

[Catfish]

^ Sure.
But "Wir werden sie jagen!" was not nice of the AfD either :03:

The internet sure offers new ways and ideas of criminal activity :hmmm:

[mapuc]

^ Sure.
But "Wir werden sie jagen!" was not nice of the AfD either :03:

The internet sure offers new ways and ideas of criminal activity :hmmm:

I say Internet brings out the worst in some people.

Markus

[August]

With one set of electors representing the vote of the majority in each State. Not what MAGA attempted to corrupt as sore losers.

Dry those crocodile tears. They only did the same thing that the Democrats tried to do in the 2016 election.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/democrats-electoral-college-faithless-trump-231731

At least a half-dozen Democratic electors have signed onto an attempt to block Donald Trump from winning an Electoral College majority, an effort designed not only to deny Trump the presidency but also to undermine the legitimacy of the institution.

The presidential electors, mostly former Bernie Sanders supporters who hail from Washington state and Colorado, are now lobbying their Republican counterparts in other states to reject their oaths — and in some cases, state law — to vote against Trump when the Electoral College meets on Dec. 19.

[Rockstar]

The modern states are a continuation of the old ancient medival feudal regimes under a new lable.

States today are a clique of looters and parasites called the civil service and the public sector, contributing nothing of value, but parasitically feeding off the actual working population by sucking from it, in ever deeper draughts.

The only task that gives a state some justification is to defend its borders against external invaders, and this is categorically denied, both in terms of military invaders and illegal migration flows, at least in the case of Germany. With this refusal to work, this state no longer has a right to exist, in my eyes, and it has forfeited any claim to respect and loyalty.

To hell with statism. It is the most powerful and vicious form of organized crime, and cleverly hides behind a sweetheart mask. To hell with state entities - ALL of them. Every form of state leads sooner or later to dictatorship - EVERY ONE. Every state is every free man's deadliest enemy. The state is the violator of contracts, but you cannot sue it. The state is the violator of its own laws, but you cannot hold it accountable. The state is the breaker of rules it imposes on everbyody, but you cannot bring it to justice. The state is the maker of rules that maximse its profits and minimize defences against abusive behaviour by the state. The state is the designer of laws that are designed to make it untouchable in its criminal nature.

That's why I wouldn't even lift my little finger from the tabletop and lower it again to defend Germany. There are things worth fighting for, qualities, ideals, rights. The superwoke socialist unworldly know-it-all Germany of today is not one of them, and deserves only contempt. I am choosy when it comes to using my life. That is wise. We all have only one life, so we should be choosy in whose service we risk it and for what. States are not one of them.

They even view themselves as the ‘elite’.

Which must mean then they look upon us as the Antonyms & Near Antonyms of elite.

commercial
popular
coarse
uncultured
gross
vulgar
ordinary
uncultivated
unrefined
raffish
rough
tasteless
unpolished
common
kitschy
average
lowbrow
lesser
mediocre
kitsch
second-class
rough-hewn
inferior
second-rate
mass-produced
unacceptable
wanting
low-grade
substandard
deficient
unsatisfactory
run-of-the-mill
run-of-the-mine
run-of-mine


https://youtu.be/FOxFbCiXV8I

[MaDef]

We are stuck with this thing called 'The Electoral College'.
It's BS in my opinion.Get rid of the electoral college, and the U.S. ceases to be a Democratic Republic and officially becomes an Ochlocracy.

[Jimbuna]

Get rid of the electoral college, and the U.S. ceases to be a Democratic Republic and officially becomes an Ochlocracy.

I'm sure Putin would approve.

[Rockstar]

I'm sure Putin would approve.

He would wouldn’t he. It’s called the National Popular Vote Movement Democrat loser Hillary Clinton approves of it and Democrat controlled States sure approve too. In fact it is thought they are circumventing the electoral college through a National Popular Vote Compact. I guess that means they really are colluding with Putin, right?

The existing electoral college system is a fundamental element in the federal constitutional arrangements established by the Constitution. Fearing “the tyranny of the majority,” the Founders established a system of government that provides checks and balances designed to restrain the majority and secure minority rights."

"Successful nominees are compelled under this system to present a broad political vision that commands nation-spanning “concurrent majorities” and appeals to the great variety of Americans. ... The NPV initiative would discard the Founders’ intentions in favor of what is consider to be a flawed “majoritarian” presidency that would ill-serve a continent-spanning and profoundly diverse republic."

[mapuc]

Why is it that many says If Trump win the 2024 election Ukraine will lose the war,'cause Trump will stop supporting Ukraine.

What if Trump is going to increase the aids a lot more than Biden did
What if Trump take it one step further and put boots on the ground in Ukraine
(not likely, but who knows)

Markus

[Rockstar]

Why is it that many says If Trump win the 2024 election Ukraine will lose the war,'cause Trump will stop supporting Ukraine.

What if Trump is going to increase the aids a lot more than Biden did
What if Trump take it one step further and put boots on the ground in Ukraine
(not likely, but who knows)

Markus

The last thing I heard Trump say about Ukraine was he would try to stop the war using his Jedi powers on Putin and if he refused them. Trump would then shower Ukraine with every weapon in our arsenal. But who knows for sure, political will bends like a reed in the wind regardless of the party. Something else to consider is history. If Trump were to be pro Ukraine certain voters like lemmings will suddenly become anti-Ukraine because, well you know, Trump.

As far as Trump winning elections keep in mind what Biden said: “Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run. I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.”

IMO Trump will not be allowed to run for president anyway

[mapuc]

The last thing I heard Trump say about Ukraine was he would try to stop the war using his magic negotiating powers on Putin and if he refused them. Trump would then shower Ukraine with every weapon in our arsenal. But who knows for sure, political will bends like a reed in the wind regardless of the party. Something else to consider is history. If Trump were to be pro Ukraine certain voters like lemmings will suddenly become anti-Ukraine because, well you know, Trump.

As far as Trump winning elections keep in mind what Biden said: “Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run. I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.”

IMO Trump will not be allowed to run for president anyway

Maybe this could be the reason to why they are eager to start these trials before the election starts.

Back to US aid to Ukraine.
Right after I had posted my comment I read in a Danish article who said Circa 55 % in a CNN survey says that USA should stop helping Ukraine. In all 51 % was against it and 48 % was for it.

This number will increase I'm sure it will as the war goes on.

Markus

[ET2SN]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/1220050/story_image/TMW2023-08-21color.png?1692552416


:yep::yeah:

[Jimbuna]

Not 100% sure who exactly this George Conway guy is but he sends an interesting message to Trump.

George Conway offered some free legal advice to Donald Trump, but he's probably not going to like what he hears.

The conservative attorney, whose wife led Trump's first presidential campaign and served as a White House adviser throughout most of his term, warned the ex-president that he would not likely win his arguments that he should be immune from prosecution or lawsuits -- and Conway justified his expertise.

"Sorry about the four criminal indictments, and about the civil rape case you lost to my friend E. Jean Carroll," Conway posted on his Truth Social account, tagging the former president.

"I know you’re still real mad at me for finding E. Jean the lawyer she hired to sue you, and about my telling everyone you’re a narcissistic psychopath and stuff," Conway added. "But I can help you on this presidential immunity thing, ‘cause it happens that I know a little about it. You can actually save some of the money you scammed off your supporters and have been using to pay your legal bills."

Conway reminded the former president that he had written the U.S. Supreme Court brief in 1997 that won Paula Jones the right to sue then-president Bill Clinton, and which the court repeatedly cited four years ago when it ruled that Trump had to comply with grand jury subpoenas issued by the Manhattan district attorney's office.

"I know you're really busy with all the criminal cases and had to skip the debate and don't like to read much, so I'll cut to the TL;DR here," Conway said, using the online abbreviation for "too long, didn't read." "Which is that, apart from the fact that you're no longer president – I know you hate to hear it, but you did lose to Sleepy Joe [Biden] and you know it! – you're gonna lose a presidential immunity argument in Georgia for the same reason Clinton lost to Jones and you lost to the Manhattan DA, which also happens to be the same reason why you weren't (and still aren't!) immune from being sued for raping and defaming E. Jean."

"You see, when you did all the bad things you did, you weren't acting within what the Supreme Court calls 'the outer perimeter' of your official duties and responsibilities as president," Conway wrote. "(I know 'perimeter' is a big word for you; think of it as acting like a property line in real estate. Or maybe Vanky can explain it for you?) Turns out that (like the Supreme Court told you!) presidents aren't above the law!"

"And not only were you not acting within the Outer Perimeter of Your Official Responsibilities, you were doing the OPPOSITE of what those Very Important Responsibilities required," Conway continued, using some of Trump's characteristic rhetorical flourishes. "PRESIDENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO STOP COUPS, NOT LEAD THEM!!!!"

"Anyway, hope this little explainer helps," he added. "(I used those Initial Caps and ALL CAPS and exclamation points just for YOU!!) P.S. Have fun at the Fulton County Jail this week. Hope you've been staying off the hamberders for the big mug shot and weigh-in!!"
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/george-conway-has-some-bad-news-for-donald-trump/ar-AA1fyEW4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6322a8ba52cd4c87b73688da9678ed9f&ei=13

[Skybird]

If you have found your best and most servile pet-Goebbels of a lifetime, never give up on him again.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-already-recorded-debate-night-counter-programming-interview-tuck-rcna100994

[ET2SN]

Not 100% sure who exactly this George Conway guy is but he sends an interesting message to Trump.

Yeah, you really need to Google who old George is, or was, or whatever. :haha:
Check out who his wife is, or was, or whatever. :03:

One story is that he had set himself up for prime access to the White House, only to have his wife/ex-wife/whatever throw him under the first bus she could find. :yeah:
Or, maybe early one morning he finally saw the light? :hmmm:

Or, maybe he's just another goof ball in a room that was already crowded with goof balls and he wasn't good at playing Musical Chairs? :hmmm:

I would trust him about as far as I could throw him. :yep:

[Buddahaid]

And then you have wonderful people like Nick Fuentes giving another inspiring sermon of hate in support of Trump. Give the man a brown shirt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f5Fv3rkSE4

[Buddahaid]

Somehow this is fitting.
https://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=s8zw6ZKpE.sF9V-kgHOmknG-3kTO.....70

[em2nought]

Give the man a brown shirt.


I'm afraid your side bought up the entire supply of brown shirts, and the next ten years production to "jack" boot. :03:

[Jimbuna]

Joe Biden faced calls to resign this week via the 25th Amendment amid rumors that the 80-year-old president is suffering from dementia, RadarOnline.com has learned.

In a surprising development to come as President Biden prepares for next year’s election cycle, critics of the 80-year-old commander-in-chief suggested that Biden is “so senile” that he is not qualified to run the country for another four years.

According to American Thinker, which called for Biden’s resignation on Monday morning while citing the 25th Amendment, the “outward signs of [Biden’s] dementia are everywhere.”

“He often appears confused, unsure of his next move, and unable to remember his speech,” the outlet charged.

“Key political terms such as the ‘national debt’ are improperly used,” it continued, “while his memory lapses include falsely claiming to have observed an event or declaring a climate emergency.”

The outlet also cited an executive order signed by Biden to “advance diversity, inclusion, and equity in the federal workforce” as further evidence the president allegedly suffers from dementia.

According to American Thinker, the executive order in question also “raises the possibility of the president being manipulated by radical ideologues.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/biden-s-dementia-hell-calls-to-invoke-25th-amendment-over-outward-signs-of-disease-as-president-displays-confusion-to-being-unsure-of-his-next-move/ar-AA1fA9Ie?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cca1183acc4847ae9b22392573fe432b&ei=14

[Jimbuna]

Meanwhile, on a sidenote.

Afurious Melania Trump has threatened to walk out on her marriage to continue Barron’s education in New York, leaving her husband alone in Florida, RadarOnline.com has been told.

As we first reported, four-times-indicted Donald Trump, 77, privately pushed his wife to the brink of a marriage crisis by shamefully dragging their sheltered 17-year-old son, Barron, into the middle of his troubled campaign.

Behind the scenes, the former first lady has threatened her husband, RadarOnline.com has learned.

“That would be devastating to Donald,” a source spilled. “With all the negative press swirling around him, the last thing he needs for his public image is another broken marriage.”

Melania also made a public stand to protect her son in 2019 when she blasted Stanford law professor Pamela Karlan, who’d made a belittling joke 13-year-old Barron wasn’t “a real baron.”

“A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics,” the then-first lady tweeted. “Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering and using a child to do it.”

Sources predicted Melania’s fury with Donald won’t ease until he swears never to use Barron for political purposes again — and if she’s not convinced, she’ll walk.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/she-ll-walk-melania-trump-threatening-to-leave-donald-in-florida-after-bitter-battle-over-son-barron-being-dragged-into-politics/ar-AA1fAfq1?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fd0d569d63ff44c1bb1531b31d172080&ei=10

[Rockstar]

Meanwhile, on a sidenote.

Oh look, the anonymous source strikes again. It’s gossip about someone’s personal life that belongs in a tabloid newspaper like the National Inquirer.

[Rockstar]

Joe Biden faced calls to resign this week via the 25th Amendment amid rumors that the 80-year-old president is suffering from dementia, RadarOnline.com has learned.

In a surprising development to come as President Biden prepares for next year’s election cycle, critics of the 80-year-old commander-in-chief suggested that Biden is “so senile” that he is not qualified to run the country for another four years.

According to American Thinker, which called for Biden’s resignation on Monday morning while citing the 25th Amendment, the “outward signs of [Biden’s] dementia are everywhere.”

“He often appears confused, unsure of his next move, and unable to remember his speech,” the outlet charged.

“Key political terms such as the ‘national debt’ are improperly used,” it continued, “while his memory lapses include falsely claiming to have observed an event or declaring a climate emergency.”

The outlet also cited an executive order signed by Biden to “advance diversity, inclusion, and equity in the federal workforce” as further evidence the president allegedly suffers from dementia.

According to American Thinker, the executive order in question also “raises the possibility of the president being manipulated by radical ideologues.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/biden-s-dementia-hell-calls-to-invoke-25th-amendment-over-outward-signs-of-disease-as-president-displays-confusion-to-being-unsure-of-his-next-move/ar-AA1fA9Ie?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cca1183acc4847ae9b22392573fe432b&ei=14


Nothing new really, I and many others said long before he became president that he was not mentally fit for the job. Which is scary when you begin to wonder who the hell exactly is the unelected official(s) running the country. Realizing it’s now become glaringly obvious to everyone, the club (a.k.a. the elites) can’t use him and are making sure neither Trump or Biden will run again.

[MaDef]

Back to US aid to Ukraine.
Right after I had posted my comment I read in a Danish article who said Circa 55 % in a CNN survey says that USA should stop helping Ukraine. In all 51 % was against it and 48 % was for it.

This number will increase I'm sure it will as the war goes on.

Markus This shouldn't surprise you, I posted back in 08-04-2022 (post # 5473 of the other Ukraine thread) that a lot of us on this side of the world viewed this conflict as a regional problem. And that the U.S. really doesn't have a dog in this fight beyond the personal interest of some of our politicians.:03:

[Jimbuna]

Matters become increasingly more farcical with each passing day.

Embattled ex-President Donald Trump mused about fleeing the United States for Russia ahead of his arraignment in Georgia later this week, RadarOnline.com can report.

In a surprising Truth Social post published on Monday night, Trump fumed about the $200,000 bail placed upon him by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.

Trump also suggested that the Fulton County DA views him as a flight risk because he might “fly far away” to “Russia, Russia, Russia.”

“The failed District Attorney of Fulton County (Atlanta), Fani Willis, insisted on a $200,000 Bond from me,” the embattled ex-president wrote on Monday night.

He continued, “I assume, therefore, that she thought I was a ‘flight’ risk - I’d fly far away, maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia, share a gold domed suite with Vladimir [Putin], never to be seen or heard from again.”

Trump continued the hypothetical scenario further and questioned whether he would be able to take his own private jet if he were to flee the United States for Russia.

“Would I be able to take my very ‘understated’ airplane with the gold TRUMP affixed for all to see,” he wrote. “Probably not, I’d be much better off flying commercial - I’m sure nobody would recognize me!”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/flight-risk-trump-makes-startling-suggestion-he-could-flee-america-to-russia-and-share-a-gold-domed-suite-with-putin/ar-AA1fC6q4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ad788fc2010d4bbe8a37b8e7bdd30118&ei=11

[Rockstar]

Matters become increasingly more farcical with each passing day.

Is it his musings what he thinks of the Georgia DA considering him a flight risk? How sad that the state of U.S. Politics has become nothing more than tabloid gossip, drama and grand spectacle. Eclipsing anything of real importance we’re just ordinary, uncultivated, brain dead peasants who are easily amused and they know it.

[Jimbuna]

True that but not just US Politics, same for the UK and quite a few other countries in my estimation.

[August]

And then you have wonderful people like Nick Fuentes giving another inspiring sermon of hate in support of Trump. Give the man a brown shirt.


Actually I think all the brown shirts are being worn by Democrats right now.

[Jimbuna]

Trump co-defendants begin to surrender in Georgia election case.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66585927

[Rockstar]

https://youtu.be/2Z01OhoewzQ

[Rockstar]

Looking at statistics for other major metro areas, contrary to what the unnamed ‘experts’ in this article proclaim as unique. Other cities are slowly but surely following SanFrancisco into the pit. Maybe we should rename California, Libya because these days I don’t see much difference between the two.


San Francisco's Decline is a Warning to Other American Cities

BY GIULIA CARBONARO ON 6/12/23 AT 5:00 AM EDT

https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-decline-warning-american-cities-1801200

Struggling with rampant homelessness, a drug crisis, surging crime and several business closures, San Francisco is no longer the thriving city it used to be. Its decline in recent months has led some to say the city "is dying"—especially as its citizens move elsewhere.

A quarter of a million people have reportedly fled the Bay Area since the beginning of 2020. According to U.S. Census estimates, San Francisco's population dropped by 7.2 percent between 2020 and 2021 and by 0.3 percent between 2021 and 2022.

This exodus, sparked by the COVID-19 pandemic and the change in working habits that came with it, continued in 2022 even as the health emergency drew to a close. While life in other big cities started getting back to normal, San Francisco and the Bay Area continued to shrink, although at a slower pace.

It is wealthier people who are leaving San Francisco, too. Lee H. Ohanian, a professor of economics and director of the Ettinger Family Program in Macroeconomic Research at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), wrote that this exodus caused a $7 billion net income loss within the city.

But how did the City by the Bay get there—and could a similar decline affect other major American centers?

A 'Broken Network' In the City

"The pandemic really changed the pace of the city and, to a certain extent, the lifeline of the city," Lu Chen, San Francisco resident and senior economist at Moody's Analytics, told Newsweek.

San Francisco, with its proximity to Silicon Valley, had grown in the past few decades to become one of the country's main tech hubs. Young, skilled workers flocked to the city in this modern gold rush as giants like Google, Apple, Facebook and Twitter set up their headquarters there.

But everything changed when the pandemic hit. Many San Francisco tech workers moved further out to cheaper cities, while many outside of the city decided against relocating there.

"We started seeing the caller cities—smaller cities which are close enough to San Francisco—attract more people," Chen said. "These cities are more affordable, they have lower cost of living, they have equally nice weather, they have a larger lot, bigger houses, newer houses, nice neighborhoods, good school districts, safer, and are easier to commute."

And tech workers appear to want to stay there. Because despite the end of the pandemic and its lockdown restrictions, many have chosen not to return to their offices. This has left many buildings in San Francisco partially or mostly empty, harming retail and causing a fracture in the city and the way it used to work, said Chen.

The office vacancy rate in San Francisco is about 30 percent—or about 35 million square feet, Colin Yasukochi, an executive director at commercial real estate firm CBRE, recently told NBC.

“If we look at the city as a whole, you have retail, offices, and residential all supporting each other. Now there's actually a broken network among different linkages of commercial properties," Chen said.

Ted Egan, San Francisco's chief economist, agrees. "High office vacancy is harming the city's economy, beyond its impact on commercial real estate itself," he told Newsweek.

"It is contributing to a loss of business tax revenue to the city, and a loss of ridership for local transit agencies. It has also harmed small businesses located downtown, who don't have the same foot traffic from office workers eating lunch, meeting after work, or shopping during the day. It is also curtailing business tourism."

San Francisco's booming housing sector has also suffered a hit in recent months, with the city being second only to Austin, Texas, for the rate at which home prices have fallen.


In April 2022—the zenith of the pandemic-era housing market boom—the median sale price of a home in San Francisco was $1.6 million, according to Redfin—11 percent more than the previous year. In April 2023, the median sale price of a home in San Francisco had dropped to $1.3 million, Redfin figures showed, 17.3 percentage points below the level reported a year before.

More Than A Tech Workers' Exodus

There are other issues which might have prompted some people to abandon the city—like the fentanyl crisis gripping the Tenderloin district, where overdose deaths have surged since the beginning of the year.

Gen-Z activist Darren Stallcup, who has lived in the Tenderloin all his life, told Newsweek that he feels "traumatized" by the number of people who's seen dying in the streets of his neighbourhood.

"I was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay area, this is my home," Stallcup, who regularly records with his phone camera and then shares with the world on Twitter, said. "And I've seen my home go from being the cultural capital of the world to the technological capital of the world and then, somewhere between the homeless crisis and the pandemic, we've become the fentanyl capital of the world."

Between January and March of 2023, 200 people died of overdose in the Tenderloin, with 159 deaths being caused by fentanyl—more than during the same time frame the year before. On a national level, fentanyl is estimated to have killed over 100,000 people in 2021 alone.

The San Francisco's Department of Public Health (SFDPH) declined an interview request from Newsweek, but shared a statement saying that the department "is working to prevent deaths caused by accidental drug overdoses through multiple interventions."

In order to do that, SFDPH is increasing access and availability of medications for addiction treatment and has opened several recovery centers in the city in the past two years, it said. The department also has street care teams dedicating to reach people most at risk of overdose.

But the fentanyl epidemic is just one of many crises facing San Francisco at the moment. While homelessness remains high—with an estimated 7,754 homeless people as of 2022—the city is also facing an increase in crime, which has been linked to the closure of several businesses in the city.

In 2021, Target announced reduced night hours in some of its San Francisco stores because of the city's rise in shoplifting and thefts. Later in the same year, Walgreens reported the closures of five of its stores in the city because of a rise in "organized retail crime."

In May, online news website SFGATE reported that T-Mobile had closed its flagship store in San Francisco's Union Square the month before. In April, Whole Foods shut its downtown store after just a year of business, with bosses saying they were unable to "ensure the safety" of their staff in the city. Nordstrom followed suit, leaving the city central district earlier in May.

Out of 203 retailers present in the city's Union Square area as of 2019, over 90 have closed since the beginning of the pandemic, as reported by the Daily Mail.

There's been a 5 percent increase in homicide in the city between January and April this year compared to the same period a year prior, while robberies have risen by 16.1 percent, according to San Francisco Police Department's crime dashboard. Other crimes, like rape and assault, have significantly dropped in the same period.

San Francisco's Mayor London Breed, a Democrat, has announced several efforts to tackle crime, homelessness, and drug addiction in the city since taking office in 2018. However, during her time in office, she's been criticized by both conservatives and progressives, who have accused her, respectively, of being too radical or not liberal enough.

In 2021, Breed declared a state of emergency in the Tenderloin to tackle the fentanyl epidemic there, a move that allowed her to increase police budgets and ramp up services to addicts and mentally ill people living in the streets. The measure was in break with liberals, who have called for defunding law enforcement.

Breed is running for re-election to a second term in office in November 2024. Newsweek contacted the office of the mayor for comment but did not receive a timely response.

Is This The End Of San Francisco?

Despite the city's troubles, experts are not ready to proclaim the city dead.

"We are seeing a lot of private and public partnership to save the city's destiny, and that is a good move," Chen told Newsweek. "We are seeing the city removing a lot of barriers for converting the commercial use properties into residential, creating the mixed-use neighborhood of combining retail/office/apartment and single-family housing together. That is a very important step in the right direction."

California assembly member Matt Haney, a Democrat, agrees that the city can be saved if it's able to transform itself—and its vacant skyscrapers—quickly.

"The most urgent thing downtown San Francisco needs to do is to adapt quickly, we need to turn many of these empty office buildings into housing and we need to attract the innovative economies of the future, including climate tech, A.I., and biotech," he told Newsweek.

"All of that can happen and will happen if we adapt quickly and address the other social and safety challenges downtown. It's hard to keep downtown safe when it's empty. It's also hard to fill it if it's unsafe. So we need to do both."

But Egan thinks that converting empty office spaces might not be such an easy operation.

One of the current challenges with converting office space in San Francisco is the high cost of construction, and the fact that the market for alternative uses—housing, hotels, and retail—are also depressed because of the decline in demand for offices," he said.

"Downtown housing, for example, has dropped in value because a large piece of that demand came from office workers who wanted a short commute. That demand has diminished because of remote work," he added. "What I think is most likely is an eventual re-configuration of most of the space for other, hybrid office uses."

Egan is optimistic on other fronts, like that of business closures, which he expects to stop, "unless we see a recession."

"Taxable sales downtown—which is our best measure of commercial activity—has been growing steadily, if slowly," he said.

But not everything is on its way to recovery in the city. In terms of housing, Laura Ratz, another economist at Moody's Analytics, said San Francisco's best days are likely to be behind it.

For the whole of its recent history, San Francisco has been an incredibly expensive place to buy a home and to live and to do business—and right now we're seeing some correction," she told Newsweek. "I think that the high-flying days of the past two decades are definitely in the rearview for San Francisco."

A Warning To Other U.S. Cities?

The conditions that brought on San Francisco's decline are unlikely to befall another American cities, according to experts.

"I think that San Francisco has its unique characteristics," Chen said. "San Francisco is the only city so far among all major American metros which hasn't fully recovered from the pandemic.

Other major cities, like New York and Washington, D.C., had seen similar level of outmigration in 2021 but are now having a sizeable recovery, with an inflow of population," she added.

Ratz agrees, saying that San Francisco is "in a lot of way its own animal," but also believes that a lot of metro areas west of the Rockies are going to see same sharp price corrections that the city has experienced in the latest months, including Phoenix and Seattle, though she wouldn't "put them quite in the same category."

Despite San Francisco presenting a unique case, the city's recent slump still serves as a cautionary tale for others.

For Haney, the reason behind San Francisco's downtown decline is that the city, years ago, decided to put all its eggs in one basket: building commercial and office spaces during the tech "gold rush."

“The city built a lot of commercial office space and not much else downtown," Haney said. "And that's a problem, because now downtown is empty, very few people live downtown and there are not diverse uses [to these empty buildings] that can provide the resilience we need as our economy changes."

[Rockstar]

https://youtu.be/0Hcro1Evlx4?si=BooKv_pXd_MJ3tBf

[Buddahaid]

So, will Mark Meadows fail to surrender by Friday at 12:30PM? His Notice of Removal to Federal Court will not be decided until 8/28/2023 and State's Rights mean that the State's case continues until it gets removed to Federal Court, not before. It would be fun to see an arrest warrant issued but I expect he will show up for his mug shot. Even if the case does get removed, he will still be arrested.

[Jimbuna]

Donald Trump risks huge security and economic implications for UK if he wins US election, whistleblower warns.

Asecond Donald Trump presidency would have “huge security and economic implications for Britain”, according to a top former US government official.

Miles Taylor, a former chief of staff at the US Department for Homeland Security, is also concerned that increasing extremism among Trump supporters will lead to more political assassination threats in the US.

Mr Taylor was a registered Republican who worked in the Trump administration until he resigned in 2019. He later revealed he had been the anonymous author of a controversial article which claimed that government officials were secretly resisting potentially unconstitutional demands by president Trump.

In an interview with i, Mr Taylor warned: “I would say to Britain that Donald Trump is the single biggest threat to the Western world order.

“You would have an increasingly isolationist America not just in foreign policy but also a highly protectionist America economically… If Trump pulled US troops out of Germany, Poland and other places, it would really increase interest in Moscow potentially to push further into Europe.

He added: “I don’t think we’re going to see Moscow marching towards London and across the Channel. But that sort of cascade of events means economic chaos and total uncertainty around the world.”

Mr Taylor said that he and his family have been continually subjected to death threats by pro-Trump extremists since he began campaigning against the former president.

He is worried that many other public officials are now suffering the same kind of abuse after Mr Trump repeatedly denigrated people involved in ongoing prosecutions of him for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election.

Mr Taylor regrets writing his 2018 whistleblowing article covertly because it appeared to proof the baseless conspiracy theory that the US is really being run by Democratic-supporting officials and spies.

“I strongly believe that he used that anonymous piece as further evidence of a deep state,” he admitted.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-risks-huge-security-and-economic-implications-for-uk-if-he-wins-us-election-whistleblower-warns/ar-AA1fHv1U?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c3fae149e1074544aee3536621636f1c&ei=33

[Rockstar]

https://youtu.be/nI-J9QtiuXU?feature=shared

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/g2hZYbGZ/2dlf1q.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Rockstar]

Select ‘share’ then ‘copy GIF link’ ;)


https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeGYyYzB4a3k0c3ZxYzhkOXZxNml5M3J uejdlejhsajA1Z2JhNmVmcCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/FqSgcFhfOry2oEsuYK/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[Jimbuna]

Rgr that.

[Rockstar]

I think about that one scene in the movie Valkyrie.

Democrat voters:
[confused] But sir, these men are part of a coup.

Major Otto Remer:
‘… We are the coup, you idiot!


Wonder if anyone here will actually watch the interview and comment on it rather than all the headlines, anonymous reports and accusations. :hmmm:


“It’s all bullshyte” - Donald J. Trump :har::har::har:
https://youtu.be/nI-J9QtiuXU?feature=shared



https://youtu.be/izBUIdS0zm4?feature=shared

[Skybird]

No competitor has what people want to take on Trump.



https://www-welt-de.translate.goog/debatte/kommentare/article247074910/Kein-Republikaner-hat-das-Zeug-ein-Konkurrent-fuer-Trump-zu-werden.html?source=puerto-reco-2_ABC-V32.4.A_control&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[mapuc]

No competitor has what people want to take on Trump.



https://www-welt-de.translate.goog/debatte/kommentare/article247074910/Kein-Republikaner-hat-das-Zeug-ein-Konkurrent-fuer-Trump-zu-werden.html?source=puerto-reco-2_ABC-V32.4.A_control&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Why didn't it come as a surprise for me.

He will be the one who's going to split Rep. party.

That is if he decide to run for himself
I doubt it though-The Rep know it would be the end of the party if they expel him.

If he isn't found guilty before the election starts.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Why didn't it come as a surprise for me.

He will be the one who's going to split Rep. party.

That is if he decide to run for himself
I doubt it though-The Rep know it would be the end of the party if they expel him.

If he isn't found guilty before the election starts.

Markus

Again, I’m thinking both Biden and Trump are considered persona non grata by their respective parties and neither will be allowed to run. Now it’s just about selling news papers.

[mapuc]

Again, I’m thinking both Biden and Trump are considered persona non grata by their respective parties and neither will be allowed to run. Now it’s just about selling news papers.

Not allowed to run !?

Does this mean he is prohibited to run solo, if he decide to do so ?

Markus

[Rockstar]

Not allowed to run !?

Does this mean he is prohibited to run solo, if he decide to do so ?

Markus

How many times have I posted the quote below now, at least a half of dozen times.

What part of it don’t you understand?

Q So how do you reassure them (The G7), if that is the reason for their questioning, that the former President will not return or that his political movement, which is still very strong, will not —

THE PRESIDENT: Oh, yeah? (Laughs.)

Q — once again take power in the United States?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run. I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.

Biden seemed to be more concerned with what the G7 thinks and wants. Trump is not a member of the club of candidates we are allowed to vote for.

[Skybird]

Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run.

So Biden says that if Trump runs, he will not win. And thus will not claim presidential powers.


I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.

Means: you cannot become president if you have not won. Noise and Trarraaa!! like last time will not lead anywhere. Claiming voter fraud is not the same like proving voter fraud. Trump claimed a lot. And proved nothing. Thats part of why he is now sued.

[Rockstar]

Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run.

So Biden says that if Trump runs, he will not win. And thus will not claim presidential powers.


I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.

Means: you cannot become president if you have not won. Traraa like last time will not lead anywhere. Claing vioter fraud is nto the same like proving voter fraud. Trump claimed a lot. And proved nothing.

you cannot become president if you have not won. Traraa like last time will not lead anywhere. Claing vioter fraud is nto the same like proving voter fraud. Trump claimed a lot. And proved nothing.Lol, really? You think Biden was referring to past words and elections? No, he’s wasn’t he is telling you and the G7 Trump will not become President PERIOD

Look at the history of our elections. Trump’s claims were no different than the claims of other candidates that lost. Candidates from both parties have done what he has done and said what has said, involving media, courts, judges, lawyers, you name it. The only difference in my opinion is the unprecedented amount of media attention Trump received compared to the others. Why? The power of the media to sway opinion, they’re not letting go of it because they don’t want him to run PERIOD

That government of the club, by the club, for the club, shall not perish from the earth. And the people seem to be happy with that though.

[Skybird]

Please...


After all these years of the same Trumpian lie being repeated over and over again, it just gets tiresome.

[Rockstar]

Please...

, it just gets tiresome.

BINGO

Btw, so did all the lies you got caught up regurgitating here which were later discovered based on corrupt officials and lies. You remember right? The Manchurian Candidate, Russian election interference, Golden Shower, Steele Dossier, Schiffs secret evidence, Russian Collusion, insurrection, any of that ring a bell? But those are just words the simple minded followers fell head over heels for. As I expressed earlier the biggest problem in my book is it might now appear the G7 is deciding who people get to vote for. That I think everyone ought to be concerned with regardless of party affiliation. Unfortunately U.S. politics is now like a Jerry Springer show one team hurling insults at the other team and of course full audience participation is expected and welcomed. Go team

[Buddahaid]

Apparently, Biden won the Republican debate.:arrgh!:

[Buddahaid]

It looks like Meadow's filing for removal to Federal Court is doomed for failure by the language in the filing itself. By the rules of the Hatch Act, Meadows was prohibited from engaging in Political Activity while on duty and therefore not fulfilling one of the three requirements for removal.

Scroll down to Current Restrictions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act

[Skybird]

BINGO

Btw, so did all the lies you got caught up regurgitating here which were later discovered based on corrupt officials and lies. You remember right? The Manchurian Candidate, Russian election interference, Golden Shower, Steele Dossier, Schiffs secret evidence, Russian Collusion, insurrection, any of that ring a bell? But those are just words the simple minded followers fell head over heels for. As I expressed earlier the biggest problem in my book is it might now appear the G7 is deciding who people get to vote for. That I think everyone ought to be concerned with regardless of party affiliation. Unfortunately U.S. politics is now like a Jerry Springer show one team hurling insults at the other team and of course full audience participation is expected and welcomed. Go teami cannot imagine that the way I write on German, European, American, EU or UN politics makes anyone believe I trust them or am respectful towards. Do not forget I am the one telling people they should stop kneeling before and legitimate them by voting them. He who votes shoulds know by now what liars he get, and so has no right to criticise them or to complain. He got what he wanted.

[Reece]

Trump surrenders in Atlanta Georgia! :o

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66612345
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/24/donald-trump-to-be-arrested-in-georgia-live-updates.html

[em2nought]

Trump surrenders in Atlanta Georgia! :o

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66612345
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/24/donald-trump-to-be-arrested-in-georgia-live-updates.html

MAGAMUST, MAGAMUST, MAGAMUST! :D

https://goodmenproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2029/03/gladiator-e1600710111782.jpg

[Skybird]

If lookscould kill... :har: Number P01135809 is not happy today, and he lets the world know it!



https://img.welt.de/img/politik/ausland/mobile247086738/7062503657-ci102l-w1024/Booking-mugshot-of-former-U-S-President-Donald-Trump.jpg

[Skybird]

Wait - did I just post a picture of the Donald...? Okay, time fore breakfast and getting some carbohydrates in.

[mapuc]

How many times have I posted the quote below now, at least a half of dozen times.

What part of it don’t you understand?



Biden seemed to be more concerned with what the G7 thinks and wants. Trump is not a member of the club of candidates we are allowed to vote for.

:oops:
You have posted it several times

This part, made me sad

" I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again."

That your President will do anything to prevent Trump from running for Office.

I forgot what Amendment they will use, what I do remember was section 3 in this Amendment.

Markus

[u crank]

I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.

Means: you cannot become president if you have not won. Noise and Trarraaa!! like last time will not lead anywhere. Claiming voter fraud is not the same like proving voter fraud. Trump claimed a lot. And proved nothing. Thats part of why he is now sued.

You might think that but of course that is not what he meant. He wasn't referring to past elections but to the next election. The fact that Biden's Attorney General and his DOJ and other left wing prosecutors are doing what we see them doing is proof of what he was referring to.

[Skybird]

Of course he meant the next election, and he expressed his expectation that he will not get elected, and will not get allowed to start a stunt again like last time.

[u crank]

Of course he meant the next election, and he expressed his expectation that he will not get elected, and will not get allowed to start a stunt again like last time.

Sure. And we are seeing exactly how that process is being played out. Four indictments against a 2024 presidential candidate who would probably lose anyway.

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

Franklin D. Roosevelt

[Jimbuna]

Watching BBC news last night on tv was surreal in so many ways as the Trump story was aired live.

I've thought UK politics has deteriorated in recent years but after last nights shenanigans I realised it still has some way to go.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Watching BBC news last night on tv was surreal in so many ways as the Trump story was aired live.

I've thought UK politics has deteriorated in recent years but after last nights shenanigans I realised it still has some way to go.


Ah, but we didn't vote to Brexit, so you've got that going for you!!

[Jimbuna]

Ah, but we didn't vote to Brexit, so you've got that going for you!!

Very true :)

[mapuc]

Even the kids here in Denmark is being brainwashed !!

Just seen an issue where some kids age around 5 to 6 years should tell what they felt when they saw this photo with Trump taken yesterday at the sherif office in Georgia.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Don’t oppose the FED don’t even mention getting rid of it or they will eventually run you out of town.

https://youtu.be/XmFHUbrWDT8?feature=shared

They’ll never tell us. But then nobody is paying attention or listening anyway. :haha:

https://youtu.be/u2NFRNYU5-U?feature=shared

[Jimbuna]

Could be interesting to see what happens to aid for Ukraine after the next election.

[Rockstar]

Could be interesting to see what happens to aid for Ukraine after the next election.

I think support will continue by hook or by crook. Too much is at stake for the U.S. to abandon Ukraine. For us it boils down to not allowing no single power to have dominance in Central Asia. I’d say too states in that region see U.S. engagement necessary to their survival.

Securing Ukraine opens the door for all those ‘Stan countries.

[Jimbuna]

Yeah, pretty much how I see it but a lot must rest on who the next POTUS is.

[Rockstar]

Not likely, only if it starts affecting congressional seats will anyone think about changing their mind. Plus the media beats the drum and the people row.

[Jimbuna]

According to an analysis of a new Politico Magazine/Ipsos poll, "dubious" claims that every Donald Trump indictment results in a boost in his re-election prospects are not borne out by the numbers -- and, in fact, support for the embattled ex-president is in a slow-motion free fall.

Writing for Politico, former federal prosecutor Ankush Khardori stated Trump's key defense against his four indictments is falling flat on its face with voters who aren't part of his rabid MAGA base.

As Khardori explained, any chance the former president has of returning to the Oval Office would require him to appeal to independents and undecideds and a growing number instead believe he belongs in jail.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-s-doj-weaponization-complaints-are-falling-flat-and-they-re-coming-back-to-haunt-him-analysis/ar-AA1fMgff?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ffcf572485df472f87de6b5897caf361&ei=23

[Jeff-Groves]

I'd like to know how the heck they ever gonna find any impartial Juriors!
:hmmm:

Even 5 year olds in Denmark don't seem like they gonna be impartial!
:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

I'd volunteer but I'm not a US citizen and then again, I'm not sure if I'd be impartial :)

[mapuc]

I'd volunteer but I'm not a US citizen and then again, I'm not sure if I'd be impartial :)

Me too and I'm 110 % neutral-When it comes to Trump

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

Heck. I'm not impartial. Don't like him but don't like Biden also.
Infact? I don't like any politicians!
Everyone of them are the punch line from the talking dog joke.
Cause he's a freaking liar!
:haha:

[Jimbuna]

Heck. I'm not impartial. Don't like him but don't like Biden also.
Infact? I don't like any politicians!
Everyone of them are the punch line from the talking dog joke.
Cause he's a freaking liar!
:haha:

I don't believe either of them are all that popular here in the UK but Trump is probably the lesser liked of the two.

[Jeff-Groves]

Dude can't keep his mouth shut.
:doh:

[Jimbuna]

A bit of a spoilt brat in my estimation and I don't like the way he appears to treat his wife in public.

[ET2SN]

Did you notice that his mug shot looks like an NFT? :timeout:

I'm starting to wonder if this Ga. case will end up coming down to "double jeopardy"? Blame the judge and the prosecution, but the fix was in all along?

:doh:

[Catfish]

A bit of a spoilt brat in my estimation and I don't like the way he appears to treat his wife in public.
A spoilt brat he always has been, but no one took him serious because of his childish manner and primitive world view. And no one expected him to really be as he presented himself, let alone he would try to overthrow the constitution. Turns out he also is a miserable liar.

What he does and how he acts is intentionally evil and sub-standard, what Biden does is probably due to his age and obvious sickness.
Does this make Biden more suited for the job as a president? Maybe not. Does this make Trump the better man in comparison? Surely not.

It is breathtaking that there is no better man suitable and in position to become a president of the US of A than those two. Who will be the successor when both are dead?

You could maybe feel pity with Melania, but then it was her free will to join the Trump family. Or was it?
I do not think anything regarding Trump has to do with free will.
[/rant]

[Buddahaid]

Did you notice that his mug shot looks like an NFT? :timeout:

I'm starting to wonder if this Ga. case will end up coming down to "double jeopardy"? Blame the judge and the prosecution, but the fix was in all along?

:doh:

The fix is called applying the law and backing it up with actual factual evidence that will hold up in court.

All of the evidence is being provided by Republicans so what's the issue.

[ReallyDedPoet]

It is breathtaking that there is no better man suitable and in position to become a president of the US of A than those two. Who will be the successor when both are dead?



:agree:

[u crank]

It is breathtaking that there is no better man suitable and in position to become a president of the US of A than those two.

Yea that is a shocking and true. It is not a failure of the system but of those who would manipulate the system. If Americans do not demand any better then nothing will change.

[Skybird]

If Biden is not available, they always can send Feinstein into the arena. :D After four years of Biden maybe its time that somebody else starts to heat up the temp on the dancefloor. :haha:



The US is a gerontocracy. The age average of the parties' fat cats is breathtaking. Senility fuels further feudal self-understanding, climaxing in the unaware belief that one has a right for life to be glued to the throne(s).

[Skybird]

If Americans do not demand any better then nothing will change.
How simliar it sounds. I say the same about Germany. We have a lousy layman group playing government, but if Germans let them and obey then, they deserve this and no other government.

Its not so much thinking from my side in terms of punishement, but thinking in terms of natural mutual attraction.



As the Chinese proverb goes, double-layered and a bit underhanded: every people has the government it deserves.

[em2nought]

I think we're done. There will never be a free and fair election ever again. One outsider slipped in, and won the big show one time. The outsider started keeping campaign promises to voters instead of starting wars. They really hated that, and they'll never let it happen again. The end.

[u crank]

I think we're done. There will never be a free and fair election ever again. One outsider slipped in, and won the big show one time. The outsider started keeping campaign promises to voters instead of starting wars. They really hated that, and they'll never let it happen again. The end.

I am a lot more hopeful about America than I am about my country, Canada and some Western European countries. In your system dissent is still allowed although it is under constant attack by the Left. And you are able to arm yourselves as a final defense against tyranny. In Canada most people are quite willing to give up their individual freedoms with the hope that big brother will make everything work out. We know how that will play out.

[Jimbuna]

A spoilt brat he always has been, but no one took him serious because of his childish manner and primitive world view. And no one expected him to really be as he presented himself, let alone he would try to overthrow the constitution. Turns out he also is a miserable liar.

What he does and how he acts is intentionally evil and sub-standard, what Biden does is probably due to his age and obvious sickness.
Does this make Biden more suited for the job as a president? Maybe not. Does this make Trump the better man in comparison? Surely not.

It is breathtaking that there is no better man suitable and in position to become a president of the US of A than those two. Who will be the successor when both are dead?

You could maybe feel pity with Melania, but then it was her free will to join the Trump family. Or was it?
I do not think anything regarding Trump has to do with free will.
[/rant]

Rgr that :yep:

[Rockstar]

It’s pretty obvious what’s in the European news cycle everyday. :har:

[mapuc]

It’s pretty obvious what’s in the European news cycle everyday. :har:

Trump, Trump, Biden and Trump

About the candidate-I know there use to be other candidate than the two who run for Rep and Dem-Pick one of these young candidate instead of voting for Biden and some old Rep candidate.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Apparently, Ken Chesebro will get his wish for a speedy trial in the Fulton County RICO case. He asked for a November 2023 date likely thinking Fani Willis was not ready, and Fani responded by asking for an October 2023 date. That appears to have been grated and Chesebro will now be tried separately. This is bad news for the other Co-Defendants who are hoping to delay proceedings, especially if there is a guilty verdict.

[Jimbuna]

On Friday, August 25, Joe Biden finally addressed Donald Trump's mugshot, which was taken the night before.

While on vacation with his family in Lake Tahoe, Biden took some time to comment on the controversial photograph. His reaction was surprising as the President of the United States has largely not commented on Trump's four indictments over the last six months.

As Biden began his public statements in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, he was largely booed by the crowd. "We don't want you here" could be heard from the audience as the Democratic politician attempted to speak with reporters.

"Have you seen Donald Trump's mugshot yet," one reporter asked the father-of-four.

"I did see it on television," Biden replied with a grin as the spectators continued to jeer.

[Rockstar]

A 'new world order'? BRICS just agreed to welcome Saudi Arabia, Iran, Ethiopia, Egypt, Argentina and the United Arab Emirates — why that's not exactly good news for the US

Chinese President Xi Jinping says the "historic" membership expansion shows broader “unity and cooperation.”

https://moneywise.com/news/top-stories/brics-new-members-saudi-arabia-iran-ethiopia-egypt-argentina-the-united-arab-emirates-us-dollar

The BRICS bloc has agreed to admit Saudi Arabia, Iran, Ethiopia, Egypt, Argentina and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to its ranks — adding fuel to the fire of “a new world order,” according to Russia president Vladimir Putin.

The six new candidates will formally become BRICS members — alongside Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa — on January 1, 2024, as reported by Reuters.

“This membership expansion is historic,” said Chinese President Xi Jinping, at the 15th BRICS Summit in Johannesburg. “It shows the determination of BRICS countries for unity and cooperation with the broader developing countries.”

A common desire among multiple bloc members is to level a global economic playing field they feel is over reliant on the U.S. dollar.

New BRICS members

The six new members to the bloc add an interesting dynamic to BRICS. Most are allies or close trading partners with current members.

For instance, the UAE has signed a bilateral trading agreement with India that will see the two countries trade oil and other assets in their local currencies — not the U.S. dollar. Fellow oil power Saudi Arabia is also looking to loosen the grip of the U.S. on the global energy industry.

Meanwhile, Brazil has long called for its neighbor Argentina’s inclusion, Egypt has close commercial connections with Russia and India, and Iran shares Russia’s issues with U.S.-led sanctions and diplomatic isolation.

According to South African officials, more than 40 countries have expressed interest in joining the bloc. Upon announcing the six new members, South African President Cyril Ramaphosa hinted at further expansion saying: “We have consensus on the first phase of this expansion process and other phases will follow.”


What this means for the U.S.

Certain BRICS members — mainly China and Russia — have long called for the bloc’s enlargement as a way to challenge Western dominance, but other members — like Brazil and India — continue to nurture close relationships with the U.S. and Europe.

Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said on Tuesday: “We do not want to be a counterpoint to the G7, G20 or the United States. We just want to organize ourselves.”

He also defended the idea of a common trading currency between BRICS countries, insisting it is not about “rejecting” the greenback or other national currencies. Rather, he said it would facilitate trade between emerging economies — while also reducing transaction costs and exposure to global volatility and geopolitical risks.

Whether BRICS will rise into a superpower that will overtake the G7 — as predicted by Putin — remains to be seen. What is clear is that more global trade will be conducted in currencies other than the U.S. dollar. But, the greenback currently remains dominant and the U.S. is still by far the world’s largest economy.

https://i.postimg.cc/jd86xbkf/IMG-2447.jpg

Yellen’s reassurance follows a 8% decline in the dollar’s share of global reserves in 2022. In an effort to diversify, central banks worldwide have been starting to ditch their dollar reserves in favor of gold.

[Jeff-Groves]

Nationalize the assets of those Countries that drop the dollar.

[Rockstar]

Nationalize the assets of those Countries that drop the dollar.

The just need some freedom and democracy bombs.



https://youtu.be/cIBs8keDsR8?feature=shared

[Jeff-Groves]

:har:
Sorry. I lost it at Dick's are flat and BJ's lowered guidence.
:o:har::har:

[Catfish]

It’s pretty obvious what’s in the European news cycle everyday. :har:
Trump or Biden was not mentioned in Hannover and surrounding newspapers even once in the last two weeks :03:

[Catfish]

:har:
Sorry. I lost it at Dick's are flat and BJ's lowered guidence. [...]
:rotfl2::rotfl2:

[Jeff-Groves]

Only thing missing in that video was a reference to Uranus.
:har:

Well. It does in a round about way. Cause U R taking it up the anus!
:har:

[Rockstar]

"We are navigating by stars under cloudy skies... We will keep at it until the job is done," Fed Chair Jerome Powell has said.

So in other words he’s flying blind. Oh man, we are in some deep doo doo. Buckle-up. :har:

Things just going up

https://i.postimg.cc/sgxYvgBz/IMG-2448.jpg

[mapuc]

Is it Bidens or the Politicians fault Inflation has gone up ?

Markus

[Catfish]

If inflation goes up the one in charge NOW will get all the blame, always. There is never the perception that things develop over decades. Humans are incapable of thinking ahead more than two incidents or events; at the same time anything passed will be forgotten instantly.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.

"Not one human has ever remembered the past" – Catfish, published at the Aerodrome Forum, 2002.
:O:

[Rockstar]

https://i.postimg.cc/50xCZR92/IMG-2452.jpg

[em2nought]

Is it Bidens or the Politicians fault Inflation has gone up ?

Markus

It's their Green New (bad) Deal. :03:

[Skybird]

Is it Bidens or the Politicians fault Inflation has gone up ?

Markus


No, its



1. fractional reserve banking and
2. FIAT money and
3. and the belief that you can always and endlessly take more out of the piggy bank than you put back.

Politicians of every kind are the driving force behind these three core evils.

[Otto Harkaman]

Everything is fine, President Kamala will handle inflation
https://youtu.be/ywQZVOgYlk0?si=Py4TJoDYvOlNGk6Q

[Rockstar]

No, its



1. fractional reserve banking and
2. FIAT money and
3. and the belief that you can always and endlessly take more out of the piggy bank than you put back.

Politicians of every kind are the driving force behind these three core evils.

Keynesian economics the belief government intervention can fix it.

[Jimbuna]

No, its



1. fractional reserve banking and
2. FIAT money and
3. and the belief that you can always and endlessly take more out of the piggy bank than you put back.

Politicians of every kind are the driving force behind these three core evils.

Aint that a fact.

[Rockstar]

Jerome Powell says more rate hikes are coming until the Fed crushes the jobs market.

Even as Dark Jerome admits the Fed doesn’t know what it's doing -- “we are navigating by the stars under cloudy skies."

So millions of Americans must lose their jobs so Jerome can cover his ass for pumping out $4 trillion in fake money.

https://youtu.be/Fa7_fH_9BCI?feature=shared

[Jimbuna]

The US could be getting a little worried as Biden's commerce secretary is the latest Cabinet member to visit China in a bid for improved ties.

[Rockstar]

No, really ya think?

Trump’s trial run: How an onslaught of court dates could sideline him from the campaign trail

The former president is a defendant in four criminal cases and three civil cases — and they could all go to trial before the 2024 election.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/26/trump-trials-primary-calendar-00113090

Welcome to the banana republic, have some bananas.

https://freedomx.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/bananas1.jpg

[mapuc]

It's not the question whether a country has turn into a banana republic, it's the question about the state of the bananas.

Fresh or rotten.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

The Bananas are rotten here. And the Monkeys that control the Bananas are all corrupt!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQveeyQmj-M

[Buddahaid]

A Federal lawsuit has been filed in Florida to disqualify Trump from running based on Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

[Jeff-Groves]

We need Section 4 of the 25th Amendment implemented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULk8-DGC7Hs

[Rockstar]

The US could be getting a little worried as Biden's commerce secretary is the latest Cabinet member to visit China in a bid for improved ties.

Worried about what? We have been locked in a trade war with China since 2018 and just last month or so Secretary Blinken came right out and accused Xi of being a dictator.

Nothing has changed since Trump started it and warned everyone it’s going to hurt a lot before it gets better. I’d wager we’re sending Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo over there because one: Biden is to feeble to form a sentence much less negotiate a treaty and two she’s there to inquire face to face if they’re ready to make some concessions. If not, we put their nuts back in the vice and continue to squeeze.

[Jeff-Groves]

You mention treaty around Joe and he probably hears Treat and asks for Ice Cream.
Then asks for a young girl to bring it to him so he can sniff her.

[Gorpet]

We need Section 4 of the 25th Amendment implemented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULk8-DGC7Hs

I'm laughing so hard , The nurse has had to put a oxygen mask on me. It is what it is. thank you

[Jimbuna]

Interesting times ahead then.

[Jimbuna]

Has God spoken?

From his summer home in New Jersey, former President Donald Trump dictated to the House Republicans that it was time for them to impeach President Joe Biden.

Taking to his personal social media website, Truth Social, on Sunday, Trump claimed that the House has already "proven" that Biden broke the law and as such it was time for them to move.

"You don’t need a long INQUIRY to prove it, it’s already proven," he ranted. "These lowlifes Impeached me TWICE (I WON!), and Indicted me FOUR TIMES - For NOTHING! Either IMPEACH the BUM, or fade into OBLIVION. THEY DID IT TO US!"

[vienna]

https://static.theprint.in/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/ANI-20230825032001.jpg





...er,...um,..did we all miss something? Wasn't the above mugshot taken when The Chump was actually, you know, surrendering for his arrest at a courthouse on criminal charges? I guess "NEVER" has a very short shelf life... :03: :D


Meanwhile, back at the courthouse (or at least one of them), The Chump's defense lawyer's failed to get their way and got their behinds handed to them by the judge; efforts to delay the trial until April 2026 were stymied when the judge pointed out (and pointedly) defense lawyers claims the mass of documents to be reviewed were not daunting given that a great many of the document were either electronically preserved and or searchable via databases and, further, a vast amount of the documents were actually sourced from the defendant's own records, openly available to and already provided by, the defense team; maybe The Chump is gonna have to hire some new lawyers at the Trumpettes' expense...


May it be suggested...?...


https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4e3ff7a9c9e639c6b604a51917058582




<O>

[Buddahaid]

For all the good it does Trump, I don't think Dewey, Cheatem & Howe could do any worse.

Isn't it telling, how Trump and his political affiliates try to get Judges and AG's fired, instead of proving they did nothing wrong as they claim daily, and loudly on social media and media outlets? There is only one set of laws even if you think it's a two-tiered justice system. It is, by the way. Trump is getting treated far better than any other criminal defendant in the country.

[August]

For all the good it does Trump, I don't think Dewey, Cheatem & Howe could do any worse.

Isn't it telling, how Trump and his political affiliates try to get Judges and AG's fired, instead of proving they did nothing wrong as they claim daily, and loudly on social media and media outlets? There is only one set of laws even if you think it's a two-tiered justice system. It is, by the way. Trump is getting treated far better than any other criminal defendant in the country.


And meanwhile the Big Guy continues to get away with many of the same things like influence peddling, classified document mishandling, collusion and racketeering just like Hitlery got away with the same things. Two tiers means Republicans get the law set on them while Democrats get a pass. Don't confuse that with whatever you treatment you think Trump is getting.

[em2nought]

Unfortunately conservatives have always bought enough guns, but not enough lawyers. :D

[Buddahaid]

I don't, and I still don't see any evidence. You can't convince me that all the might of the big mighty GOP can't produce viable evidence if there is any to be found! They need to put up or shut up, and do the Governments work they're being paid to do.

[Rockstar]

Isn't it telling, how Trump and his political affiliates try to get Judges and AG's fired, instead of proving they did nothing wrong as they claim daily, and loudly on social media and media outlets? There is only one set of laws even if you think it's a two-tiered justice system. It is, by the way. Trump is getting treated far better than any other criminal defendant in the country.

—————-

I don't, and I still don't see any evidence. You can't convince me that all the might of the big mighty GOP can't produce viable evidence if there is any to be found! They need to put up or shut up, and do the Governments work they're being paid to do.

On one hand he demands the accused must prove their innocence.

On the other hand he demands the prosecution must prove guilt of the accused.

Have some more bananas :har:

https://youtu.be/WRh_mCxd3UY?feature=shared

[Buddahaid]

On one hand he demands the accused must prove their innocence.

On the other hand he demands the prosecution must prove guilt of the accused.



Your words, not mine.
The Defendant needs to convince a Jury the Prosecution's case does not meet the requirements for a conviction, the Prosecutor needs to convince a Jury the evidence is compelling enough to gain a conviction. Law 101. :har:

But no need to worry, Alina Habba says Trump is so intelligent he doesn't need to prepare for trial and it's in the bag.

[Rockstar]

Your words, not mine.
The Defendant needs to convince a Jury the Prosecution's case does not meet the requirements for a conviction, the Prosecutor needs to convince a Jury the evidence is compelling enough to gain a conviction. Law 101. :har:

But no need to worry, Alina Habba says Trump is so intelligent he doesn't need to prepare for trial and it's in the bag.

In case you didn’t notice I quoted your post.

Have some more bananas

https://youtu.be/5yqAaejuRn8?feature=shared

[Jeff-Groves]

The Old USA is gone. Not with a Bang but with a whimper.

[Rockstar]

https://youtu.be/ZXFNTOmw_V0?feature=shared

[Otto Harkaman]

The Old USA is gone. Not with a Bang but with a whimper.

went out with a tweet

[mapuc]

As I use to say to my Danish and Swedish friends-You can't blame others than yourself..The combination of given votes throughout the last 4 decades has turned Denmark and Sweden into what it is today.

Same goes with the American voters.

I haven't been voting since 2002-Reason our politician are more eager to serve the EU than the country they represent and other things

Markus

[Rockstar]

https://i.postimg.cc/hPV1WLJy/IMG-2518.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8lAxTDg933A/Un6sCRZFk5I/AAAAAAAALRo/NL5PFmqyiIc/s1600/pic_1931.jpg

[mapuc]

In which way have Biden arrested former President Trump ?

I have had the impression that Trump has created the situation, in which he has been arrested on two occasion, by himself.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

In case you didn’t notice I quoted your post.



I noticed. Have some more Kool-Aid.

[August]

In which way have Biden arrested former President Trump ?

I have had the impression that Trump has created the situation, in which he has been arrested on two occasion, by himself.

Markus

Biden made the ultimate decision to use the law to prevent Trump from running for president again, which is what this is really all about. His Attorney General is only obeying his orders, albeit willingly.

Remember, it was then Vice President Biden who suggested using an antiquated, centuries old law called the Logan Act to prosecute Michael Flynn. The man is quite willing to pervert the justice system to go after his enemies.

[Jimbuna]

I doubt he's the first nor the last.

[Rockstar]

I imagine this is why Biden was telling a graduating class of black college students the greatest threat to democracy is white supremacy. Doing so, seems like Democrats were trying really hard to keep my brothers them on the plantation. Problem for the racist Democrats is they made themselves out to be the white supremacist threat after they posted Trump’s mug shot.

https://youtu.be/ny8crOngQ4s?feature=shared


How a Democrat who doesn’t drink the koolaid everyday sounds. He sounds rational instead of repeating verbatim the same damn line everyday like the irrational, insane, koolaid drinking people do.

https://youtu.be/WJWodBjiRz4?feature=shared

Trump Biden RAP battle. lol

https://youtu.be/SXUG_xsjNwc?feature=shared

[Jimbuna]

Donald Trump and his team are considering having the ex-president not appear at his upcoming arraignment — the first time the ex-president has missed one in all his criminal cases.

According to sources, Trump may waive his arraignment appearance, which is currently scheduled for September 6 at 9:30 AM. All criminal defendants in Fulton County have the option to waive their personal appearance.

Rudy Giuliani’s arraignment is scheduled for 15 minutes after Trump’s hearing. Sources told CBS News Trump has yet to make a decision.

Trump’s legal team will appear in court for him if he decides to skip out. At the arraignment, the ex-president or his lawyer will enter his plea. Many of the 18 co-defendants in the case have waived their formal arraignments and entered not-guilty pleas, per reports.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-debating-blowing-off-arraignment-in-georgia-election-interfere-case/ar-AA1fZYV0?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e95311a5606d4fe1994addd7ee12c16a&ei=15

[Buddahaid]

"Rudy Giuliani was just hit with major default judgment sanctions by a federal judge in the Fulton County election workers Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss defamation case."

The judge has ruled in favor of Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss as the result of Giuliani's continuing failure to provide court requested documents. The case will now move straight to damages. Goodbye Rudy.

[August]

"Rudy Giuliani was just hit with major default judgment sanctions by a federal judge in the Fulton County election workers Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss defamation case."

The judge has ruled in favor of Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss as the result of Giuliani's continuing failure to provide court requested documents. The case will now move straight to damages. Goodbye Rudy.




Goodbye in a civil case? Have the democrats turned to outright murder of their political opponents now?

[Buddahaid]

Goodbye in a civil case? Have the democrats turned to outright murder of their political opponents now?

No, that crap belongs to Stew Peters fascist Reawaken America BS.
https://vimeo.com/859046891
This ruling will bankrupt Rudy for life.

[August]

No, that crap belongs to Stew Peters fascist Reawaken America BS.
https://vimeo.com/859046891
This ruling will bankrupt Rudy for life.


Never heard of him or them.


As for poor Rudy, Americas mayor, it just seems like it'd be the next level considering that the Democrats have made America a place where you prosecute your political enemies. I mean you guys have tried everything else.

[Buddahaid]

Never heard of him or them.


As for poor Rudy, Americas mayor, it just seems like it'd be the next level considering that the Democrats have made America a place where you prosecute your political enemies. I mean you guys have tried everything else.

Oh. Remember this?
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/dQDqTOOj

[August]

Oh. Remember this?
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/dQDqTOOj




Nope sorry. What did she say that belies the fact that the Democrats have put the banana in our Republic?

[Jimbuna]

Donald Trump Declares Victory in 2024 Georgia Primary 9 Months Before a Single Vote Has Been Cast
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-declares-victory-in-2024-georgia-primary-9-months-before-a-single-vote-has-been-cast/ar-AA1g0Bwn?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fb55b6dea9754bfcbd2d8d282324e7e1&ei=13

Words fail me but it will be interesting to see how the vote eventually pans out.

[Skybird]

Keep on freezing, guys, Mitch shows you how its done. As I said earlier, its a gerontocracy. Check the age structure of Congress and Senate. The mummy state is coming!

[Jeff-Groves]

Words fail me but it will be interesting to see how the vote eventually pans out.

It don't matter how the vote comes out.
Both sides will scream that it was rigged.
:yep:

[Jeff-Groves]

Nope sorry. What did she say that belies the fact that the Democrats have put the banana in our Republic?

That's NOT a banana! And they are shoving it up our "Republic"!

[Rockstar]

Keep on freezing, guys, Mitch shows you how its done. As I said earlier, its a gerontocracy. Check the age structure of Congress and Senate. The mummy state is coming!

Yep, they getting old. Feinstein, McConnell, Biden all suffering from significant mental and physical decline. But the people who have rode their coat tails are just trying to preserve their jobs. Instead of these people being allowed to retire gracefully, honorably. They are propped up and used to preserve the party and other vultures taking advantage of them. IMO it’s akin to elder abuse.

I think if you look at the situation honestly you gotta wonder just who the hell is running the country?

Long live the party at all cost!

[Buddahaid]

Peter Navarro loses his attempt to invoke executive privilege in his Jan 6th contempt of Congress hearing. Notable was Trump’s silence in backing the claim.

[Jeff-Groves]

Yep, they getting old. Feinstein, McConnell, Biden all suffering from significant mental and physical decline. But the people who have rode their coat tails are just trying to preserve their jobs. Instead of these people being allowed to retire gracefully, honorably. They are propped up and used to preserve the party and other vultures taking advantage of them. IMO it’s akin to elder abuse.

Long live the party at all cost!

There needs to be drug testing on Politicians. Sports have that to avoid cheating. Why not those that have positions of power?

[Buddahaid]

“ Joe Biggs, who led the Proud Boys on J6 with Ethan Nordean and Enrique Tarrio, was sentenced in federal court today to 17 years in prison.”

[Rockstar]

“ Joe Biggs, who led the Proud Boys on J6 with Ethan Nordean and Enrique Tarrio, was sentenced in federal court today to 17 years in prison.”

Who is Joe Biggs and why should I care who Joe Biggs is?

[Jimbuna]

It don't matter how the vote comes out.
Both sides will scream that it was rigged.
:yep:

Yep and that is just one of the reasons they are making their country a laughing stock in the eyes of so many other countries.

[Jeff-Groves]

I'd bet George III is just rolling in his grave laughing!
"There Ya go you danged Colonials! How you likeing Taxation WITH Representation now?"

[Jimbuna]

I'd bet George III is just rolling in his grave laughing!
"There Ya go you danged Colonials! How you likeing Taxation WITH Representation now?"

:haha:

[Jeff-Groves]

If CrossBows weren't outlawed in 1146?
Things would be different today.
:yep:

[Buddahaid]

A second lawsuit, this one in Michigan, has been filed to prevent Trump from being named on election ballots per Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. The first was in Florida.

[Buddahaid]

Here’s the transcript of Trump’s deposition for the NY fraud case against the Trump organization coming to trial October 2nd. If this rambling nightmare is what’s in store for the March trials Trump will be ruined. Most people understand that you don't volunteer information over what is being asked, but not the mighty Trump. He's hanging himself.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23932534-452564_2022_people_of_the_state_of_v_people_of_the _state_of_exhibit_s__859

[Otto Harkaman]

Yep and that is just one of the reasons they are making their country a laughing stock in the eyes of so many other countries.


You just wait...
https://media0.giphy.com/media/qZabG7FmSZw8TDNwaU/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47ris5zlexb31tevh9insmkwwf3ipb acue8uqehwlt&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Jimbuna]

Hardly the surprise revelation of the century.

Donald Trump's trial in Georgia over charges of election fraud will be livestreamed and televised, a judge has ruled.

All the hearings will be available live on Fulton County Court's YouTube channel, said Judge Scott McAfee.

A date for the trial has not yet been set, but it could be next year when Mr Trump is running for re-election.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66679910

[Jimbuna]

About time somebody made the decision simply as a precaution if nothing else.

President Joe Biden has been taking the shorter stairs to get on Air Force One much more often since falling over a sandbag on stage during the US Air Force Academy graduation in June, a news photography analysis has shown.

NPR reports that Mr Biden has been eschewing the 18-foot staircase, which may at times be unstable, traditionally used when getting on and off Air Force One.

Instead of exiting and entering via the upper door, Mr Biden has been using the staircase that folds out from the lower level rather than the separate stairs wheeled up to the plane at airports and bases. Using the lower, foldable stairs means that most of Mr Biden’s journey up to the main floor of the aircraft takes place inside, away from the view of the cameras.

The 80-year-old commander-in-chief has stumbled on the stairs on more than one occasion, with the White House brushing aside questions on the issue as Mr Biden’s age is one of the main worries on the minds of voters as he runs for re-election.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/why-biden-is-taking-the-short-stairs-on-air-force-one/ar-AA1g3fdM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a0f8af9a5fb64766b89110e3fb93fbc0&ei=12

[Rockstar]

Yep and that is just one of the reasons they are making their country a laughing stock in the eyes of so many other countries.

Can’t argue that.

[August]

Yep and that is just one of the reasons they are making their country a laughing stock in the eyes of so many other countries.


Wouldn't be so funny if we stop being Europes big daddy. :03:

[mapuc]

Is USA in such a terrible condition as many of you have given the expression of ?

There must be something good you could say about your country ?

Markus

[Rockstar]

Is USA in such a terrible condition as many of you have given the expression of ?

There must be something good you could say about your country ?

Markus

No need to think along extremes all the time, there’s a ton of good things I can say about my country. However the current political climate and circus drama is about the only thing not on that list.


I also realize European nations like the U.K. and Germany have the exact same circus as we do. The only difference is, that unlike European media, your political boondoggles are not in our news cycle because honestly nobody over here really gives a ratsass about your political drama. Let’s face it, if Europe was so perfect the shining beacon on the hill. The U.S. wouldn’t have to place its time, effort and money to quell ANOTHER European war.

[mapuc]

Oh there’s a ton of good things I can say about my country. The political climate and current affairs is about the only thing not on that list.


I also realize European nations like the U.K. and Germany have the exact same circus as we do. The only difference that unlike European media, it’s not in our news cycle because nobody over here really gives a rats arse about your politics. But let’s face it if Europe was so perfect the shining beacon on the hill. The U.S. wouldn’t be have to place its efforts time and economy to quell another European war AGAIN.

This is why I try very hard not to point fingers at you the way you do things. 'cause I shouldn't be throwing stones......

Even the little country Denmark has become a banana republic.

What's on peoples mines these days is whether we should forbid burning the Holy Quran or not. The government is trying to get a majority to create a law so it would be forbidden.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Wouldn't be so funny if we stop being Europes big daddy. :03:

Should have stopped being that years ago imho.

The EU in particular have been trying to punch above their weight for quite a few years now.

[Rockstar]

Should have stopped being that years ago imho.

The EU in particular have been trying to punch above their weight for quite a few years now.

The problem with that is you just can’t [keep] these two apart by yourself and would have been demanding our involvement AGAIN. :yep:

https://vilnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/molotov.jpg

Dejvue

http://i.cbc.ca/1.1901185.1380862852!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/li-putin-medvedev-620-ap250.jpghttps://static.dw.com/image/42659423_401.jpg

[Jimbuna]

The problem with that is you just can’t these two apart by yourself and would have been demanding our involvement AGAIN. :yep:

https://vilnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/molotov.jpg

Dejvue

http://i.cbc.ca/1.1901185.1380862852!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/li-putin-medvedev-620-ap250.jpghttps://static.dw.com/image/42659423_401.jpg

Nah, at worst we would have let them have our tiny island after we shipped back over to the USA :yep:

[Jimbuna]

A Proud Boy who led the US Capitol riot by smashing his way into the complex with a police shield before he filmed himself puffing a celebratory cigar has been sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Dominic Pezzola, a 46-year-old former US Marine, fought with officers during the raid on Congress on 6 January 2021.

He was convicted of assaulting police and obstructing an official proceeding.

Another Proud Boy, Ethan Nordean, faces sentencing on a more serious seditious conspiracy charge on Friday.

[Buddahaid]

A Proud Boy who led the US Capitol riot by smashing his way into the complex with a police shield before he filmed himself puffing a celebratory cigar has been sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Dominic Pezzola, a 46-year-old former US Marine, fought with officers during the raid on Congress on 6 January 2021.

He was convicted of assaulting police and obstructing an official proceeding.

Another Proud Boy, Ethan Nordean, faces sentencing on a more serious seditious conspiracy charge on Friday.

"Pezzola's wife testified that she hoped the judge would be lenient but didn't excuse his actions, "He's a ****ing idiot," she told the court. She had previously testified that he geared up for his assault on the Capitol on J6 by "getting drunk and watching Fox News."
:up:

[Rockstar]

One those types who likes the political drama and is fascinated by his own "fragrance"

[August]

Nah, at worst we would have let them have our tiny island after we shipped back over to the USA :yep:


And we would have welcomed you, although talk about making old George III spin in his grave! :)

[em2nought]

I wonder if an American conservative can now get political asylum abroad? :D

[Jimbuna]

Read an article earlier which stated one of the Proud Boys wept in front of the judge before sentencing and after the judge announced said sentence and left the courtroom the individual suddenly grew a pair as if by magic and shouted "TRUMP WON" :nope:

[Onkel Neal]

Hah hah, yeah, he had to give it a shot. :doh:

[Aktungbby]

...suddenly grew a pair as if by magic and shouted "TRUMP WON" :nope:

Hah hah, yeah, he had to give it a shot. :doh:methinks that mighta bin a 'Phreudian slip' of sorts Kemo Sabe!https://www.news-journalonline.com/gcdn/authoring/2018/01/25/NDNJ/ghows-LK-63a29ef0-a07e-73e5-e053-0100007f686c-043e9eb5.jpeg?width=660&height=1031&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp:arrgh!::O::timeout: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/14/trump-hush-money-judge-recusal-00111083

[mapuc]

This story belongs in one of our other thread(which I can't find)

It's a sad story

One officer standing in front of her car is seen in the video released on Friday firing directly towards her as she appears to drive in his direction.

The video shows the two officers speaking with Ms Young for about one minute before the shot is fired.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66690408

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

That happened about 55 miles South of me.
88.5 Kilometers for you metrics fanatics.
:nope:

[Aktungbby]

This story belongs in one of our other thread(which I can't find)

It's a sad story



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66690408

Markus Sorry Markus. The 5 'levels of force include: 1: an an officers presence: 2: voice command;3: baton: 4: chemicle spray(pepper or tear gas) and if all else fails, 5: use of the firearm. The video clearly depicts the lady's utter disregard for the officer's presence, voice command incl. a polite "please"(refusal to obey a lawful command) and, as she moves her vehicle forward ie: turning her vehicle into a deadly weapon, the 2nd officer, standing in front, may, at his discretion use his own firearem to prevent harm to himself and innocent shoppers. That she was was black(ie: 'playing the race card'), pregnant and female will undoubtedly play into the official considerations of the matter. I've been in this position more than once myself incl. using my '06 Corolla as a defensive weapon; and would at least have stepped aside and shot out a tire as the vehicle passed me by(considerably reducing the paperwork??!)...but that is any officers' own percieved discretion which is always subject to official 'Monday-morning quarter-backing'. That happened about 55 miles South of me. :hmmm:Well if the National Guard can kill 4 college students in Ohio and get away with it I doubt this policeman will have much trouble! :oops::timeout::arrgh!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh1E951XaRA

[mapuc]

My intention was not to criticize your police force. As an outsider I have no right to do so.

For me it was nothing but a sad story-Which I hoped could have an another ending

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

Everything is Political/Racial in the USA now days.
You don't drink the Kool-Aid? You are a Racist/Bigot.

[Jimbuna]

Everything is Political/Racial in the USA now days.
You don't drink the Kool-Aid? You are a Racist/Bigot.

Fast approaching the same here in the UK

[August]

Well if the National Guard can kill 4 college students in Ohio and get away with it I doubt this policeman will have much trouble!


The Guard was put in much the same position as the British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre, and they also beat the rap for the same reasons, even if they didn't have John Adams as a lawyer.

But that was also 53 years ago. Times have changed. If Kent State happened tomorrow i'd bet some of those young Guardsmen would be looking at spending the rest of their lives in prison.

[Otto Harkaman]

Making Stonehenge great again!
Stonewatchers believe they have spotted Donald Trump's face in one of the monument's ancient pillars.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/02/18/74994533-12473921-image-a-32_1693676808857.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/02/18/74993729-12473759-image-a-15_1693676004876.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12473921/Stonehenge-believe-spotted-Donald-Trumps-face-ancient-pillars.html

[Rockstar]

Making Stonehenge great again!
Stonewatchers believe they have spotted Donald Trump's face in one of the monument's ancient pillars.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/02/18/74993729-12473759-image-a-15_1693676004876.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12473921/Stonehenge-believe-spotted-Donald-Trumps-face-ancient-pillars.html

I read in the news there are already 1000’s flocking to the site next week.

[Otto Harkaman]

I read in the news there are already 1000’s flocking to the site next week.

Oh! I don't want anything to happen to Stonehenge
Personally I believe they just built up a huge earth mound around the thing, set the uprights by dropping them into pits, raised the mound further and moved the cap stones in place, then dug the dirt away.

[Buddahaid]

I read in the news there are already 1000’s flocking to the site next week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWK3nkJhneE

[Rockstar]

Oh! I don't want anything to happen to Stonehenge
Personally I believe they just built up a huge earth mound around the thing, set the uprights by dropping them into pits, raised the mound further and moved the cap stones in place, then dug the dirt away.

It’s too late, Druids are building a fortified defensive network around the area to protect Stonehenge from followers converging on what they have declared as The Sacred Trump Stone. It’s gonna be bloody.

[em2nought]

It’s too late, Druids are building a fortified defensive network around the area to protect Stonehenge from followers converging on what they have declared as The Sacred Trump Stone. It’s gonna be bloody.

Oh no, it's spreading! President Trump has appeared on a Moai from Easter Island now too. :D

https://faceswaponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/MoaiTrump-ceb3a50bf9e806e1a9ee4ff852b04b8f.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Many a world leader must be busting a gut with laughter.

[Jimbuna]

Looks like someone has finally awoken and can smell the coffee.

During a Skype call-in to Alex Jones, one of the leaders of the Proud Boys who was the recipient of a 17-year sentence is already complaining about the food and holding out hope that 4-time-indicted Donald Trump might one day pardon him.

According to a report from Newsweek, Joe Biggs, who sobbed in court on Thursday when he was sentenced to almost two decades in prison for seditious conspiracy, complained about being sent to jail, telling Jones, "They want to send a message to Americans that if you go to these events, if you are part of a political group, they're going to throw you in prison for a long time. They want you scared."

Continuing in that vein he added, "They don't want you to go out and vote, they want people scared before it's time to vote and that's why all this heat's happening right now. You know, this is ridiculous. We went there that day with no plan, with nothing. We were there like every other American but it's because we're a political group."

Biggs also complained about the conditions in jail -- specifically what he is being fed.

"The food (in prison) is horrible. You can't eat the food here. It is not edible in any kind of way," he stated.

Asked if he sees a possible Trump pardon in his future, he replied, "Oh, I know he'll pardon. I believe that with all my heart."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/you-can-t-eat-the-food-here-newly-sentenced-proud-boy-leader-rants-about-prison-conditions/ar-AA1gb8Gn?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5e526df79832442db9d396488db78058&ei=11

[Buddahaid]

Oh no, it's spreading! President Trump has appeared on a Moai from Easter Island now too. :D

https://faceswaponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/MoaiTrump-ceb3a50bf9e806e1a9ee4ff852b04b8f.jpg

Finally, an explanation of how the trees and population were decimated. :arrgh!:

[mapuc]

I can by using my imagination, see something that look like a face. However I can't see any similitude with Trump.

Guess you must be a true Trump supporters to see it, 'cause I can't

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I'll send you my spare set of computer glasses Markus :)

[mapuc]

I'll send you my spare set of computer glasses Markus :)

I'm using reading glasses when doing stuff. I meant the picture from Stonehenge.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

The Stonehenge one looks more like Lyndon B. Johnson to me.

[Rockstar]

https://keepmeme.com/files/en_posts/20200912/oof-stones-meme-89b4d90714c9c078319b38a7cdcc27bd.jpg

[Aktungbby]

Well I won't say "I hate the Donald" but I ain't lichen it much neither! :shucks:https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/02/18/74993729-12473759-image-a-15_1693676004876.jpg I may be daft but I see Taft:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/William_Howard_Taft%2C_head-and-shoulders_portrait%2C_facing_front.jpghmmm:

[Rockstar]

https://i.postimg.cc/8kByZWJ3/IMG-2589.jpg

:hmmm:

https://www.catholic.org/files/images/ins_news/2016080647botched_restoration.jpg

[Jimbuna]

The Stonehenge one looks more like Lyndon B. Johnson to me.

I was thinking of a frowning Trump.

[em2nought]

I've always thought most of the Moai look like John Kerry. I even have a tiki mug that's been nicknamed "John Kerry" for at least ten years. :har:

https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/84e72ff/2147483647/strip/true/crop/7239x4826+0+0/resize/1440x960!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.apnews.com%2Fd8%2Ff3%2F2 7ee50d819962fa8b247e8d34c71%2Feb45de4c852944b4883b 841d7fa80df4

[Otto Harkaman]

https://youtu.be/Y-am6aDlzNM?si=qFd_Uv9UxB_nfD32

[Rockstar]

Hate to say it, but 70-80 year olds are generally regarded as unemployable due to mental decline / skill mismatch. Yet they're exclusively running the country. :06:

https://i.postimg.cc/0yN1wvtr/IMG-0935.jpg

[Jimbuna]

FWIW I don't think the current POTUS or Trump are the fit and proper person to run the USA

[mapuc]

Scratching my head, wondering why !?
Why does people put their vote on these very old politicians

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Because they'll almost certainly be the ones put forward for election by their respective parties.

[mapuc]

Because they'll almost certainly be the ones put forward for election by their respective parties.

I know, I also know there's more candidate beside these two from Dem and Rep. and among these there must be some young politician.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

Having traveled all 50 States in the USA for over 20 years?
I've come to the conclusion that the majority of the people are idiots.

[Jimbuna]

Having traveled all 50 States in the USA for over 20 years?
I've come to the conclusion that the majority of the people are idiots.

Well come to think of it I have met a few in my time :O:

[Jimbuna]

I know, I also know there's more candidate beside these two from Dem and Rep. and among these there must be some young politician.

Markus

I highly doubt as things stand at the moment there will be anyone other than those two.

I have been known to be wrong in the past mind you.

[Jeff-Groves]

Watch the Movie Idiocracy.
We are not all that far away from that!
:nope:

And I'd think you have the same problem in Your Country Markus.
Not like you all have Great Leaders getting elected.
Just like the USA? They sell out and lie to you for their own interests.

[mapuc]

Watch the Movie Idiocracy.
We are not all that far away from that!
:nope:

And I'd think you have the same problem in Your Country Markus.
Not like you all have Great Leaders getting elected.
Just like the USA? They sell out and lie to you for their own interests.

We have indeed. That's one of the reason why I do not vote-Haven't been voting since 2002.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

We have indeed. That's one of the reason why I do not vote-Haven't been voting since 2002.

Markus

QFT :hmmm:

:)

[Jeff-Groves]

We have indeed. That's one of the reason why I do not vote-Haven't been voting since 2002.


I have a sign that says
"Politicians trespassing here will be shot on sight. Then shot 5 more times to be sure they are dead!"
:haha:

[em2nought]

Scratching my head, wondering why !?
Why does people put their vote on these very old politicians

Markus
Because those with a more recent and "leftist" education are an even worse choice. :03:

[Buddahaid]

Because those with a more recent and "leftist" education are an even worse choice. :03:

From my perspective, both party extremes do not want educated people that might actually read past the headlines and use some critical thinking skills.

One of the saddest things for me is the far right MAGA party acts more like a Communist party striving to exert control over business, education and behavior. These people are not conservatives any longer! You see the Democratic party now being the conservatives resisting the radical ideas coming from MAGA.

[Rockstar]

From my perspective, both party extremes do not want educated people that might actually read past the headlines and use some critical thinking skills.

One of the saddest things for me is the far right MAGA party acts more like a Communist party striving to exert control over business, education and behavior. These people are not conservatives any longer! You see the Democratic party now being the conservatives resisting the radical ideas coming from MAGA.

:har::har::har::har:

You had me wholly agreeing with you on the first sentence then I lost you when you hopped on the partisan crazy train again.

[Jeff-Groves]

:har::har::har::har:

You had me wholly agreeing with you on the first sentence then I lost you when you hopped on the partisan crazy train again.
And just why did you think anything different would come from Him?
:hmmm:

[Buddahaid]

:har::har::har::har:

You had me wholly agreeing with you on the first sentence then I lost you when you hopped on the partisan crazy train again.

All you need to do is look at the attacks on Anheuser-Busch and Disney, the banning of books from schools, the attacks on women's rights and attacks on the LGBTQ community.

[Jeff-Groves]

Perfect example of "If you don't drink the same kool-aid I do? Your wrong."

Last I checked I had the FREE choice not to drink a certain Beer. Now you and your kind want to brand us as evil.
Don't have anything against the LGBTQ except having it shoved in my face. I have lesbian friends and a best friend was Bi.
My Bi friend died years ago and I still miss him. You don't get friends like him but maybe a couple times in Life.
Disney is just Politicians playing a Game for suckers. Don't care about that at all.

No books should ever be banned. Period!

[Buddahaid]

Perfect example of "If you don't drink the same kool-aid I do? Your wrong."

No, you are free to believe how you want to, but don't try to make me live by your beliefs through telling me what I can't do or read. If you don't want to see it, or read it, act like a small government conservative and don't.

[Jeff-Groves]

And there we go with the name calling.
Last resort of the desperate.

And no one told you to believe as I do. But you can't understand that can you?

[Buddahaid]

And there we go with the name calling.
Last resort of the desperate.

And no one told you to believe as I do. But you can't understand that can you?

What name calling? I'm not even angry, just debating.

When MAGA tries to legislate one set of unpopular ethics on the whole country I am being told what to do.

EDIT: My bad grammar. I didn't mean the word you to mean you personally, I was thinking of it as when one does something. Sorry about that.

[Jeff-Groves]

I'd love to engage in a further battle of wits.
But I refuse to fight with an unarmed opponant.

Anyone that is comitted to only one side? Well, nuff said.
Anyone that does not agree with this side or that side? Again you've said enuff.

You obviously decided you are ONLY interested in one side. Nothing I could say would have you look at me any differently. You've commited to your views.

And that OK by me. Your allowed to do that and I served to protect that Right.
I was one of those people that would have died protecting your rights.

[Rockstar]

All you need to do is look at the attacks on Anheuser-Busch and Disney, the banning of books from schools, the attacks on women's rights and attacks on the LGBTQ community.

Oh Jesus, that’s not socialism, nor is it an attack. If it was socialism the government/public/corpus/body would interfere with an individual’s decision what to buy, consume or produce . If anything it served as a perfect example of what socialism is not. The individual right to determine not the public or corporation what to buy, consume or sell.

Feel free to drink all the bud light and bake all the gay wedding cakes you want, or not. Either way I don’t care what you do. In capitalist economy there will always be someone ready to meet demand. Its in the socialist society where the government/public controls the means of production and forces people to do things which go against their honest heartfelt convictions

[Jeff-Groves]

I don't drink any Anheuser-Busch products for a simple reason.
It's NOT an American owned company.

Does that make me unpatriotic and a LGBTQ hater?
Or I'm being patriotic and buying American?
I'm confussed cause there's double standards involved.

And the last time I had anything with a Rainbow on it was a box of Lucky Charms.

[Rockstar]

I don't drink any Anheuser-Busch products for a simple reason.
It's NOT an American owned company.

Does that make me unpatriotic and a LGBTQ hater?
Or I'm being patriotic and buying American?
I'm confussed cause there's double standards involved.

And the last time I had anything with a Rainbow on it was a box of Lucky Charms.

I don’t how, but it seems that to some it makes you a socialist and an extremist.

[Buddahaid]

I'd love to engage in a further battle of wits.
But I refuse to fight with an unarmed opponant.

Anyone that is comitted to only one side? Well, nuff said.
Anyone that does not agree with this side or that side? Again you've said enuff.

You obviously decided you are ONLY interested in one side. Nothing I could say would have you look at me any differently. You've commited to your views.

And that OK by me. Your allowed to do that and I served to protect that Right.
I was one of those people that would have died protecting your rights.

Now that is closer to name calling than the term small government conservative. I'm surprised anyone would consider that term offensive.

I'm committed to the freedoms this country's Constitution and Bill of Rights allows. If you think that's one sided, you're right.

[Jeff-Groves]

You obvious don't have a grasp of the true meaning of Wit.