Who / What / Where Game Part 2

[Eichhörnchen]

Well although those are French markings, the 1930s British plane most usually used to double as a ww1 biplane was one of the DH moth series

[Aktungbby]

not a british plane

[Ostfriese]

A Belgian Stampe SV-4.

[Aktungbby]

yes! Over 2 U :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up::Kaleun_Applaud:

[Ostfriese]

OK, what is this?


https://s20.directupload.net/images/220617/jl72yuji.jpg

[Aktungbby]

a speeding bullet?:D

[Ostfriese]

Funny idea, but no :D

[mapuc]

Something to do with Superconductor ?

Markus

[Ostfriese]

Something to do with Superconductor ?

Markus


Not as it is pictured, no. (The material probably might be superconductive if you cool it down far enough, though, but that is true for quite a number of materials).

[Eichhörnchen]

The end of Aktung's urinary catheter?

[Ostfriese]

The end of Aktung's urinary catheter?


:k_confused: Hopefully not :haha:

[Eichhörnchen]

Is this magnified many times over?

[Ostfriese]

Is this magnified many times over?

No.

[Catfish]

You all have the wrong idea lol

I wonder which kind of metal it is, is it solid in the picture?

[Ostfriese]

You all have the wrong idea lol

I wonder which kind of metal it is, is it solid in the picture?


A very good question.


It is NOT solid.

[mapuc]

From a movie ?

Markus

[Ostfriese]

From a movie ?

Markus


No.

[Catfish]

Liquid at "normal" temperature (~20 degrees) Celsius i suppose.
Then i'd say it is mercury in a test tube, turned 90 degrees :hmmm:

[Ostfriese]

Liquid at "normal" temperature (~20 degrees) Celsius i suppose.
Then i'd say it is mercury in a test tube, turned 90 degrees :hmmm:
It is indeed. Unfortunately the mercury at my lab is pretty old and has accumulated some dust, that's why it looks a bit unusual. Over to you :Kaleun_Applaud::Kaleun_Cheers:
https://s20.directupload.net/images/220617/iyeqn4qx.jpg

[Catfish]

^ lol i thought of it at first glance, but those small cavities looked strange, so i first thought of molten and then solidified lead or other metal. Nice idea with the tilt.

Oh no now find something new :hmmm:

[Aktungbby]

The end of Aktung's urinary catheter?

:k_confused: Hopefully not :haha:too small!:O:

[Catfish]

ok found one

https://i.imgur.com/NoQTlAim.jpg

[mapuc]

Part of a Painting ?

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

inside a sunken ship

[Catfish]

Part of a Painting ? Markus
No, photo.
inside a sunken ship
Not inside.

[Jimbuna]

The wreck of the Endurance?

https://i.postimg.cc/fb9tLTc8/FNWRx-EPX0-AAm872.jpg (https://postimg.cc/rdqFZTY4)

[Eichhörnchen]

Old galleon?

[Jimbuna]

Old galleon?

If your not fast...your last :03:

[Ostfriese]

Good call, Jimbuna :Kaleun_Applaud:

[Jeff-Groves]

If your not fast...your last :03:

:/\\!!

[Jimbuna]

Good call, Jimbuna :Kaleun_Applaud:

Just waiting on Kai to confirm and give the green light.

[Catfish]

Not a galleon ..

Yep it is Shackleton's »Endurance«, discovered in may 2022, in remarkably good condition :up:
"A team of undersea explorers located the wreck roughly 10,000 feet deep at the bottom of the icy Weddell Sea, just east of the Antarctic Peninsula."

https://i.imgur.com/sjw6EPwl.jpg

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/shackletons-endurance-shipwreck-is-teeming-with-bizarre-ocean-life-180979719/

Well done, over to Jim :salute:

[Jimbuna]

What is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/QN1GjBFF/gnyyyy.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

Part of a weapon ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Yes

[mapuc]

Famous machine gun ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Not as far as I'm aware

[Ostfriese]

Is that a spring in a casing?

[Catfish]

Car jack?

[Aktungbby]

sten ?

[Gerald]

Nightstick.

[Eichhörnchen]

So it is a not very famous machine gun?

[Jimbuna]

Is that a spring in a casing?

I believe so.

Car jack?

A weapon.

[Jimbuna]

sten ?

Much younger/newer than that old girl.

So it is a not very famous machine gun?

Not classed as a machine gun.

CLUE: Used in the Ukraine atm.

[Eichhörnchen]

It looks like an air rifle compression spring. Is it an airgun? I don't believe it is but I have to eliminate that

[Jimbuna]

Not an airgun.

CLUE: An assault rifle.

[Eichhörnchen]

I'd looked at all the assault rifles already, thinking you maybe got the idea for this from that story about the US woman who took a StG-44 to the cops

So is it an AK47 (hammer spring)?

[Aktungbby]

malyuk bullpup?

[Jimbuna]

I'd looked at all the assault rifles already, thinking you maybe got the idea for this from that story about the US woman who took a StG-44 to the cops

So is it an AK47 (hammer spring)?

More modern than that.

[Jimbuna]

malyuk bullpup?

Closest yet. This weapon is not manufactured in Ukraine as far as I'm aware but is on the list of those sent by another country.

[Aktungbby]

from Switzerland?

[Jimbuna]

Nope

[Eichhörnchen]

España ?

[Jimbuna]

Not quite :)

[Aktungbby]

Israel?

[Jimbuna]

Nope....NEXT!

[mapuc]

Scandinavia ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

The last I looked there were about eight countries in Scandinavia ya sly bugga :)

[Catfish]

Closer to Scandinavia than to Espana? :haha:

[Eichhörnchen]

France?

[Aktungbby]

malyuk bullpup?

Closest yet. This weapon is not manufactured in Ukraine as far as I'm aware but is on the list of those sent by another country.

https://i.postimg.cc/QN1GjBFF/gnyyyy.jpg FN F2000:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/FN_F2000S.JPG/1920px-FN_F2000S.JPG https://i0.wp.com/cms.sofrep.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/1024px-Combined_Resolve_II_14064035579.jpg?resize=1024%2C 678&ssl=1

[Jimbuna]

Closer to Scandinavia than to Espana? :haha:

:)

France?

Nearly :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/QN1GjBFF/gnyyyy.jpg FN F2000:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/FN_F2000S.JPG/1920px-FN_F2000S.JPG https://i0.wp.com/cms.sofrep.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/1024px-Combined_Resolve_II_14064035579.jpg?resize=1024%2C 678&ssl=1

That's the one...made in Belgium.

Over to you :salute:

[Aktungbby]

WHO Where and When https://subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12592

[Jimbuna]

Can't even begin to know what it might even look like :o

[Aktungbby]

it has two arms and two legs and a name!...and boldly goes where no man has gone before!:shucks:

[Ostfriese]

A tribble.

[Aktungbby]

of a sort...this one could parachute!:D

[mapuc]

Voyager ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

U got the 'V' part right!:up:

[mapuc]

V'ger ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

even shorter: V something

[Catfish]

Vostok?

[Aktungbby]

shorter...and not russian

[Catfish]

Real or SciFi?

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwEkZCDoQDc

[Aktungbby]

Real or SciFi?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwEkZCDoQDc very real and fatal to the little gent in the picture...@ jimbuna: closest yet; now add a digit..."and it won't take much to get U up there"

[Catfish]

A chimpanzee? Ham? But this was a Mercury ..

Albert in a V2 june 1948?

There were six Alberts though, the last was renamed from Albert VI to Space cadet Yorick.
I did not know they (ab)used so many monkeys for their tests.

https://www.nine.com.au/entertainment/viral/the-sad-tale-of-monkeys-in-space/1428d716-e928-4a3c-9e7c-62c4ae62a67a

[Aktungbby]

BINGO! little Albert II https://www.spacelaunchschedule.com/wp-content/uploads/albert-II-640x360.jpg was the first primate to boldly go where no man had gone before in a V2 sounding rocket. A Rhesus Macaque, the chute failed on re-entry causing his demise. As for abuse of primates incl. humans, Rule one of space travel is: "U R expendible...but thanks in advance!" Over to Catfish! :Kaleun_Salute:

[Catfish]

Impossible to find by the picture lol

Ok what is that, name please:

https://i.imgur.com/2VvcnXEm.jpg

[Eichhörnchen]

Some kind of trireme?

[Catfish]

Not a trireme.
It is said the prototype has been rowed, but not sure.

[Ostfriese]

Something from the far east?

[Catfish]

Something from the far east?
Goddam and i thought you were german :O:
Not from the far east.

[Ostfriese]

Goddam and i thought you were german :O:
Not from the far east.


I am :D
Doesn't mean I know everything. :p

[Eichhörnchen]

Was it an early attempt at a surface torpedo?

[Catfish]

I am :D
Doesn't mean I know everything. :p
No? :D Ok hint it is an.. umm.. 'german' idea. Though Germany as a state did not exist at the time.
Was it an early attempt at a surface torpedo?
No, not a weapon. Not even armed if texts are correct.

[Ostfriese]

No? :D Ok hint it is an.. umm.. 'german' idea. Though Germany as a state did not exist at the time.


So that means some 150 years less to cover. Great :D :haha:

[Eichhörnchen]

Was it a submersible?

[Catfish]

Was it a submersible?
Yes, though the thing as pictured in the sketch was not built, only a smaller prototype for test purposes. This smaller one is said to have been able to submerge indeed (AND surface).

[Aktungbby]

prior to the Drebble?

[Catfish]

^ later

[Exocet25fr]

Swordfish Lure with hook ?

[Catfish]

^ that would have been a perfect idea, able to submerge and surface but via a line, while all thinking it is a submarine .. :haha::up:

But it was indeed some meters long and intended to be some kind of submarine.

[Jimbuna]

The Steinhuder Hecht ('Steinhude Pike') from 1772. said to be the first submarine built in Germany?

[Aktungbby]

that's a "heck of a pike"! I knew I'd seen the picture, a few years back studying the Drebble, but couldn't place it...more Aricept? :k_confused:

[Catfish]

The Steinhuder Hecht ('Steinhude Pike') from 1772. said to be the first submarine built in Germany?

YES, that's the one. Prototype (probably) built in the village of Steinhude near Hannover, at the "Steinhuder Meer".


https://i.imgur.com/rLyd8hfl.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Lut7xhQl.jpg


The small area of Schaumburg-Lippe was a small monarchy/republic, then ruled by Count Wilhelm of Schaumburg-Lippe. He had an internationally recognized talent for war and strategy, and was even called to come and help by Portugal to (successfully) defend the country against the Habsburg-reigned Spain. He was accompanied by the inventor Jakob Chrysostomus Praetorius, who had already thought of several new kinds of technology. To get information to and from Portugal there was his idea to build a ship for information exchange that could not be intercepted.

"The Steinhuder Hecht was a design submitted in 1762 by the engineer, officer and military school teacher Jakob Chrysostomus Praetorius from Schaumburg-Lippe for a mail boat between the river Weser (flowing ino the North sea at Bremerhaven) and Lisbon. It is considered the first German design of a submarine."
It was an idea for a mailboat/packet ship or also as an "Aviso" (recconnaissance boat) that would be able to get past enemy navies or ships by diving. The masts were intended to be lowered before diving to reduce resistance, the propulsion done via some tail fin operated from inside via cables.

The smaller prototype from 1772 is said to have had no sails but rows instead, having an oak hull with leather covering to make it watertight and is said to have been tested on the Steinhuder Meer staying submerged for 12 minutes. Said to have had "real" ballast tanks with a piston system, but not sure how this should have worked or how it looked. There are only sketches and a model left, exhibited at Wilhelmstein, a small artificial island in the lake.

It may be doubted if this strange thing ever dived, since the Steinhuder Meer has a depth of 2 and a half meters at its deepest parts.. at least today.

Short fim in german about the invention:
https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendungen/das/DAS-historisch-Steinhuder-Hecht-der-erste-U-Boot-Entwurf,dasx26618.html

Over to Jim :salute:


that's a "heck of a pike"! I knew I'd seen the picture, a few years back studying the Drebble, but couldn't place it...more Aricept? :k_confused:
I'm not sure maybe i even had it in this first thread of WhoWhatWhere(? :o), but then maybe i also need some of this aricept :wah:

[Ostfriese]

I admit that I've never heard of that thing before - and I was born less than 80km/50mi away from Steinhude. :o

[Jimbuna]

What is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/Wp820dwd/gnhnhh.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

Left front wheel on an airplane.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Afraid not.

[Aktungbby]

does it fly?

[Jimbuna]

It does.

[Aktungbby]

propeller driven?

[Jimbuna]

Nope

[mapuc]

Powered by wind ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

combat jet?

[Eichhörnchen]

Carrier-borne?

[Catfish]

Central landing gear?

[Jimbuna]

Powered by wind ?

Markus

Sorry Markus but I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. All aircraft need an element of wind to stay up in the air as far as I'm aware.

[Jimbuna]

combat jet?

Used in a combat situation but not jet propelled.

[Jimbuna]

Carrier-borne?

Always took off from land.

Central landing gear?

Yes and fixed.

[Eichhörnchen]

Rocket powered?

[Jimbuna]

No rockets.

Clue: Over 3000 were built.

[Jeff-Groves]

Horsa Glider wheel

[Jimbuna]

Aye, the answer being the Airspeed Horsa glider.

https://i.postimg.cc/fTvxy8hS/Airspeed-Horsa-Ex-CC.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspeed_Horsa

Over to you :salute:

[mapuc]

Sorry Markus but I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. All aircraft need an element of wind to stay up in the air as far as I'm aware.

I was thinking about planes like the glider AS.51 Horsa who is pulled by another propeller plane or todays non-engine glider.

Edit
Did not see the comments after Jims, not before I had posted this-So it is Jeff turn
End edit

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I was thinking about planes like the glider AS.51 Horsa who is pulled by another propeller plane or todays non-engine glider.

Edit
Did not see the comments after Jims, not before I had posted this-So it is Jeff turn
End edit

Markus

Well you were certainly on the right track....mentioning the word 'glider' would have been a definite step in the right direction.

[Jeff-Groves]

Somebody else take over Please.
I pass.

[Aktungbby]

Somebody else take over Please.
I pass.:Kaleun_Salute:

What is this?https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12612

[Buddahaid]

An office building.

[Aktungbby]

not specifically

[Jimbuna]

Cleveland Clinic Lou Ruvo Center?

[Aktungbby]

You got it!:Kaleun_Salute:@ Buddhaid: apology; my bad; I should have said it's an office building but I was was focused on 'medical center for dementia' which the architecture uniquely represents: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Gehry_Las_Vegas.jpg/1920px-Gehry_Las_Vegas.jpg< Jeeze: "what goes on in Vegas ...stays in Vegas!!??":o :k_confused: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Ruvo_Center_for_Brain_Health

[Jimbuna]

What is this beauty called?

https://i.postimg.cc/wxGPcY3d/ffghnfg.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Aktungbby]

british?

[Jimbuna]

Initially yes.

[Aktungbby]

destroyer?

[Jimbuna]

Yes

[Aktungbby]

Pre WWII?

[Catfish]

Used after WW2?

[Jimbuna]

Pre WWII?

Afraid not.

[Jimbuna]

Used after WW2?

During and after.

CLUE: There is a faint/distant German connection.

[Catfish]

Built in Germany?

[Jimbuna]

No but saw action with the German Navy.

[Catfish]

With, or against? :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Against and quite a famous encounter but not well known by a great many I suspect.

Go on and prove me wrong :)

[Aktungbby]

tribal class?

[Catfish]

I take it not Glowworm nor Cambeltown?
no they did not survive the war

[Catfish]

U-class?

[Jimbuna]

tribal class?

Not exactly but had been known to work alongside some of them.

[Jimbuna]

U-class?

Not 'U'

Clue built in the UKish

[Catfish]

you wrote british, so Great Britain? But not England.
Scottish?
Leaves only a hundred classes or so lol. I do not find any destroyer with a seme-circular aa stand other than the U-class :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Yes Scottish Kai, well spotted.

[Catfish]

Hm, Hunt class? At least the II had this turret stand, but no davit nearby

[Jimbuna]

Not a Hunt class.

CLUE: Built in Scotland and handed over to another country then returned after the war.

[Catfish]

Norwegian, Scharnhorst?

[Jimbuna]

A further clue...

https://i.postimg.cc/Vs3dsRQq/tttjtjyy.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Catfish]

So not the norwegian »Stord«?
Given to Canada?

[Jimbuna]

So not the norwegian »Stord«?
Given to Canada?

Not Canada but another ally.

[Jimbuna]

One of 2 G class Scottish-built destroyers: Vasilefs Georgios, armed with German weapons; sold to the Greek navy. Scutteled, while being sunk in a 1940 drydock bombing then raised by the Germans and renamed ZG3 or Hermes, the vessel participated in the sinking of a Greek(Triton) and British submarine(HMS Splendid). Ultimately recaptured in Tunisia on block-ship duty, and scrapped by the allies. Could also be her sister ship, Vassilissa Olga, which served as Royal Hellene Navy flagship, till fall of Greece; recaptured by Allies and re-retrofitted in India with allied weapons, she served admirably, capturing the Italian sub, Uarsciek, and in several convoy attack battles until sunk in action by Junkers bombers in the Eastern Mediterranian with loss of 72 crewmen.

Nope a long way off unfortunately.

CLUE: That second photo shows part of B turret,

[Catfish]

I will never take patrt in a destroyer puzzle again lol, they all look alike, and from necessary questioning you could as well present a blank rectangle :D :subsim:

So last time, ok. To Russia?

[Jimbuna]

I will never take patrt in a destroyer puzzle again lol, they all look alike, and from necessary questioning you could as well present a blank rectangle :D :subsim:

So last time, ok. To Russia?

Afraid not Kai :)

CLUE: Saw action against a famous enemy warship.

[Catfish]

Not England, not Russia, not Greece, not Norway.
I guess not Poland either, too late. Surely not the US.
Enemy warship neither Tirpitz nor Scharnhorst.
To Liechtenstein. :O:
To Argentine? lol not an ally.

Enemy action early in the war?

[Jimbuna]

Not England, not Russia, not Greece, not Norway.
I guess not Poland either, too late. Surely not the US.
Enemy warship neither Tirpitz nor Scharnhorst.
To Liechtenstein. :O:
To Argentine? lol not an ally.

Enemy action early in the war?

Read what you posted again :)

[Catfish]

Poland?
The Groms were built at Cowes, cannot be.

[Aktungbby]

HNoMS Stord?

[Catfish]

Frankly i did not see one picture with a matching turret, and i have now seen hundreds.
Given to Australia?

One of the destroyers harrassing the Bismarck before her demise?
Polish? Ex-HMS Nerissa then ORP Piorun (first to locate the Bismarck and opening fire "Three salvoes for the honour of Poland!"), at last HMS Noble?
N-class, but B-turret still does not match. Hm.

edit:
Questionable resource (WarThunder) but nice photos. And here it has indeed portholes in B-turret. Why not shown anywhere else?! :doh: :hmph:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/454314-orp-piorung65-for-the-honour-of-poland/

[Jimbuna]

HNoMS Stord?

Way off :)

[Jimbuna]

Frankly i did not see one picture with a matching turret, and i have now seen hundreds.
Given to Australia?

One of the destroyers harrassing the Bismarck before her demise?
Polish? Ex-HMS Nerissa then ORP Piorun (first to locate the Bismarck and opening fire "Three salvoes for the honour of Poland!"), at last HMS Noble?
N-class, but B-turret still does not match. Hm.

edit:
Questionable resource (WarThunder) but nice photos. And here it has indeed portholes in B-turret. Why not shown anywhere else?! :doh: :hmph:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/454314-orp-piorung65-for-the-honour-of-poland/

Spot on :up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_Piorun_(G65)

https://i.postimg.cc/m2VQkbKs/1565878799-MIO-2-2015-pi0-1-jpg-08baa9d356421260e794d21cdff0fccc.jpg (https://postimg.cc/xcJkFS0x)

Over to you good sir :salute:

[Jimbuna]

The flusskanonenboot (river gunboat) SMS Otter?

[Catfish]

^ lol yes it would have been, i deleted the post within 30 seconds, but ..
I had saved the detail crop as a tif with Google image service unable to recognize it. Unfortunately uploading it to Imgur autmatically stored it as a jpeg and then it immediately showed the right result in Google – so i deleted it to search for something else. :haha:

edit: What is this?

https://i.imgur.com/Mn2DawNl.jpg

[Aktungbby]

an American airship?

[Catfish]

Nope.

[Jimbuna]

Aeroplane?

[mapuc]

A Sub from around WWI era ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Aeroplane?
Yes!
A Sub from around WWI era ? Markus
So not a sub, see above.

[Jimbuna]

WWI era?

[Catfish]

^ Give or take, yes. Invented earlier..

[Aktungbby]

Amerikan?

[Jimbuna]

German?

[Catfish]

Part American, not german.

I have to say the information contradicts each other, I only found this out after posting..
But the info given up to now is unambiguous.

[Catfish]

Hint:
This plane on the photo was built by an american company, but the inventor is british.

[Jimbuna]

Civilian use?

[Catfish]

British inventor and 'some'(?) being built there, one (i think) built by the French, and several by the Americans.
One of the few english-built flew in the RFC.
Others were used in the US Signal Corps, United States Navy and Canadian Aviation Corps, also in a militia role.
Not really used in the european war theatre as far as i know.

Exact designation, please (insert devil smiley here)

[Jimbuna]

Monoplane?

[Catfish]

Not a monoplane

[Jimbuna]

Biplane? :)

[Catfish]

^ Yes, but not more. Literally.

[Jimbuna]

Single seat?

[Catfish]

Two seater here. There were also single seater types, the first ones especially..

[Jimbuna]

Be.2?

[Catfish]

Not a BE2.x. The ac in question has not been really used in the war AFAIK. Was invented before the war and used until after.

Hint: Curtiss was a fan.

[Jimbuna]

Signal Corps Airplane No. 1? or one of the later examples?

[Catfish]

^ no.
And not a Wright airplane.

[Aktungbby]

well I'm lost then; I've looked at everything, and can't come up with a Brit designed American-built biplane...not used in WW I...:wah:is Dehavilland the designer?

[Catfish]

well I'm lost then; I've looked at everything, and can't come up with a Brit designed American-built biplane...not used in WW I...:wah:is Dehavilland the designer?
Not DeHavilland, nor Wright-built.

Just learned the inventor was born in Ireland! But he became famous in England, and is often referred to as being english -

Some hints:
The name of the inventor/pioneer begins with a D., in England the machines were made by different companies, some were later manufactured by a well-known (in England) aircraft company.
Also built by a french company.
Name of inventor and manufacturer is not the same, the aircraft's name was that of the inventor.
It was always regarded as experimental, with a special layout and some excellent ideas.
It was built in England AND the US (later, like the one in the picture), but not very much of them, and different types.
One engine or two (then coupled to one shaft), 1-2 propellors depending on model.

Also a hint here, re "Is it a biplane?":
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2818099&postcount=429

[Jimbuna]

Was it a 'pusher'?

[Catfish]

^ Yes.

[Jimbuna]

Model D?

[Aktungbby]

Burgess-Dunne D.8 variant; built in Massachusetts?http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--wTpaitdEpw/VNrUsBujTuI/AAAAAAAACoQ/ck9qeZ-n6ds/s1600/va-bd-06-cr-2k.jpg

[Catfish]

"Model D"?
It is not a Curtiss, but the man was very interested in this aircraft..

[Catfish]

Burgess-Dunne D.8 variant; built in Massachusetts?

You got it!
A Burgess-Dunne D8 it is on the photograph, though there is some confusion with names of the different types.
In this case it is even a seaplane variant, used by the New York militia
(The float attached to the central landing skid allowed easy conversion from land to seaplane):

https://i.imgur.com/1joVbcDl.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunne_D.8

https://www.reddit.com/r/WeirdWings/comments/8qjwp3/the_burgess_seaplane_a_variant_of_the_dunne_d8_a/

https://www.steelpillow.com/dunne/aero/dunne-aircraft.html

The first aircraft consisting only of wings (and a very small fuselage), invented by Mr. Dunne, built and tested in Farnborough and Scotland, then produced by the Short company, also built by Nieuport (called a Nieuport-Dunne) and fitted with a Gnôme rotary, later built by Burgess in the US, finally a streamlined closed version with a Curtiss Oxx-2 engine.

Dunne wanted to create an absolute stable and easy-to-fly plane that would not fall from the sky under any circumstance, allowing the pilot to concentrate on other tasks.
The plane was impossible to stall or to spin, it would fly with hands-off and even start or land that way, very much like the Etrich Taube.

He used an ingenious method of different chord from fuselage to wingtips, when the inner parts of the wing would already stall the outer parts would still hold the plane up, and the ailerons would still work and allow manoeuvering.
Still used today!

After the war Curtiss wanted to use closed-fuselage Dunne types (built by American L. Smith called the Smith B-2 "Arrowhead" safety plane) for personal use and everyone else, and make America a flying nation, since everybody would be able to fly this type almost on the spot.

During the experimental "life" of the type, different engines, propellers and so on were tried out, "normal" and staggered wings, but the original two wings with a tiny fuselage were used all the time.

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/burgess-dunne.29266/

https://vintageairphotos.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-birth-of-american-flying-wing.html

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/the-smith-b-2-arrowhead-safety-plane-glenn-curtisss-last-project.21272/

One was even used by the short-lived Canada Aviation Corps, its first and only warplane:

https://www.silverhawkauthor.com/post/canadian-warplanes-1-burgess-dunne-floatplane


Over to Aktungbby :salute:

[Aktungbby]

What's this gizmo?https://subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12640

[Catfish]

Part of a blunt pipe? :hmmm: :haha:

[Aktungbby]

U got it ! over to U!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Catfish]

:o What?
i thought i made a joke

@Aktungbby please do another one, I was just being lucky!

[Aktungbby]

^ OK. What's this https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12647

[Jimbuna]

A mould?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Jeff-Groves]

That looks like aluminium carpet tack strip.

[Aktungbby]

well the functional concept is similar...but only during 'formal' occasions.

[Jimbuna]

Grater?

[Aktungbby]

nope...big hint: the item(s) are related to the previous item (post 444) which I had conceded to Catfish

[Jimbuna]

A pipe?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Jimbuna]

A piece of attire that is worn?

[Aktungbby]

yes! When undertaking formal occasions...to "keep a lid on the situation" soda speke! They are not visible to the naked eye during such occasions...hopefully??!

[Catfish]

Hint:
My conclusion to what the last riddle was was not right .. it was not a pipe for smoking weed or tobacco.
So i undertook to give it back to Aktung ..

[Jimbuna]

Underwear?

[Jeff-Groves]

Some kind of tack strip used on a Coffin

[Aktungbby]

Underwear?hopefully

Some kind of tack strip used on a CoffinYES! In the coffin actually: but it's use is of concern only while the lid is open for formal viewing...:o so as not to perturb the bereaved.(practically a dead giveaway):yep::shifty::roll::dead:

[Jimbuna]

A face covering?

[Aktungbby]

a specific portion of face covering or better perhaps: uncovering:roll::dead:

[Jimbuna]

The eyes?

[Aktungbby]

Bingo! eye caps inserted under the lids to prevent the lids from opening. Over to U!:Kaleun_Salute: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12646:arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

What precisely is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/668yF3rQ/grgrghgh.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Eichhörnchen]

Jet exhausts?

[Jimbuna]

Not exhausts, these are at the front.

[Eichhörnchen]

Jet intakes?

[Jimbuna]

Nothing to do with jets.

[Aktungbby]

sitting on a stairway?

[Catfish]

Weapons?

[Jimbuna]

sitting on a stairway?

Not sure what you mean but not connected to a stairway.

[Jimbuna]

Weapons?

Yes

[Aktungbby]

two separate weapons?

[Jimbuna]

two separate weapons?

As far as I'm aware there are three different weapons systems and this is a partial view of one of those of which this particular weapon system there are four of :doh:

[mapuc]

Mortar popped up in my head knowing it's not the correct weapon. It could be it so I take a chance

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Mortar popped up in my head knowing it's not the correct weapon. It could be it so I take a chance

Markus

I can't say for sure but I believe them to be missile launchers.

[Aktungbby]

American?

[mapuc]

British Manpads ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

American?

Nope

[Jimbuna]

British Manpads ?

Markus

Britush built but this example is not in British service.

[Aktungbby]

British Starstreak? being sent to Ukraine? https://www.janes.com/images/default-source/news-images/bsp_14669-jdw-16606.jpg?sfvrsn=b09bc783_2 https://www.thedrive.com/content/2022/03/starstreak-Missile-launch-Ukraine.jpg?quality=85&auto=webp&optimize=high&quality=70&width=1440

[Catfish]

Looks ike it, but what about those staircases? :doh:

[Jimbuna]

British Starstreak? being sent to Ukraine?

Closest yet but not all that close really.

The item in question is not that portable and is fixed to a vehicle.

[Jimbuna]

Looks ike it, but what about those staircases? :doh:

Sorry Kai but you've got me puzzled...what staircases?

CLUE: As far as I'm aware this whatever it is has been used by five different countries.

[mapuc]

Missile, placed on truck

Are these surface to surface missiles ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Missiles yes but not on a truck and the type of which I'm not sure.

[mapuc]

Missiles yes but not on a truck and the type of which I'm not sure.


Don't know where I got the word truck from. You wrote: and is fixed to a vehicle

Fixed to a jeep ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Smaller than a truck but bigger than a jeep.

[mapuc]

Only vehicle that comes into my mind is the Humvee

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2820108&postcount=483

[Jimbuna]

Only vehicle that comes into my mind is the Humvee

Markus

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2820108&postcount=483

[mapuc]

I'm getting old my short term memory hasn't been what it has..well forgot it.

Markus

[Catfish]

Sorry Kai but you've got me puzzled...what staircases?
CLUE: As far as I'm aware this whatever it is has been used by five different countries.
Originally Posted by Aktungbby View Post:
sitting on a stairway?
Not sure what you mean but not connected to a stairway.

So stairway not staircase .. :hmmm: But you wrote
"The item in question is not that portable and is fixed to a vehicle."

So a staircase on a vehicle with different weapon systems

[Jimbuna]

Not sure where everyone went off track but probably my fault for a poor choice of photo cropping.

The photo is of a pair of missile launchers (two on either side) but I'm not sure precisely what the missiles are called.

The vehicle in question (in the picture) has three armament systems as opposed to the usual two and was originally built in the UK and has been used by five or so countries and has been deployed in numerous theatres/conflicts.

The original question at #467 "What precisely is this?" was meant to draw the answer of something along the lines of "Missile tubes as fitted to a #############"

The million dollar question being "What is the vehicle"

Apologies for any confusion.

[Catfish]

So not the "stormer", this is used by England and has those starstreak missiles :hmmm:
Bigger than the 'Stormer'?
(I don't expect you to answer in the next 24 hours lol)

[Jimbuna]

LOL :)

You are very warm, the Stormer is slightly larger.

[Jimbuna]

A more fitting photo perhaps.

https://i.postimg.cc/Kj5wDm46/dfgfny.jpg (https://postimages.org/)