Who / What / Where Game Part 2

[Eichhörnchen]

Desert Patrol Vehicle?

[Jimbuna]

Some kind of vehicle ?

Markus

It has wheels but is not a vehicle in itself.

[Jimbuna]

Desert Patrol Vehicle?

Clue: Doesn't actually move when being used.

[Eichhörnchen]

I'm thinking anti-aircraft gun?

[Jimbuna]

Not quite but is probably being used in the Ukraine conflict but again, I can't be certain.

[Eichhörnchen]

So it's a towed light artillery piece of some kind?

[Aktungbby]

British?

[Jimbuna]

So it's a towed light artillery piece of some kind?

You are almost there. It is a specific type/kind and the country using it please?

[Jimbuna]

British?

Not British.

[Aktungbby]

rifled barrel?

[Jimbuna]

Smoothbore.

[Eichhörnchen]

French made?

[Aktungbby]

since when is anything French...'smooth'?:|\\ Slovakian?

[Jimbuna]

French made?

Not French.

[Aktungbby]

Slovakian

[Jimbuna]

Slovakian

Sorry, I was checking background history for confirmation and I must say I'm impressed with your guess.....a big YES.

[Aktungbby]

Zuzana 2 howitzer?

[Jimbuna]

Close but no cigar :)

[Eichhörnchen]

Was it designed as a howitzer?

[Aktungbby]

Close but no cigar :)
Zuzana howitzer?

[Jimbuna]

Was it designed as a howitzer?

No, not at all.

CLUE: Has Soviet origins.

[Jimbuna]

Zuzana howitzer?


Not that one either :)

CLUE: Not self-propelled and of a smaller calibre to that of the above.

[Catfish]

Not a howitzer, not self-propelled, "smaller" towed artillery with a smoothbore barrel.
The "D-30" has always been russian, if used by a lot of other nations, and it is a "howitzer".
The "MORTAR M12 120 mm" has a too big calibre for what Jim said.
Hm.

I do not find anything like this here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Slovak_Army

Are you sure it was invented, built and is being used by Slovakia :o

[Jimbuna]

Not precisely Slovakia.

CLUE: Think of the original country.

[Aktungbby]

122 mm 2A18 howitzer?(D-30)

[Jimbuna]

Nooooo why a howitzer? Four or five posts up I said it wasn't.

CLUE: Similar in nature to the function of a howitzer....Soviet origins....built by a country that no longer exists.

[Ostfriese]

Czechoslovakia, then?

[Jimbuna]

Czechoslovakia, then?

Very close.

[mapuc]

Yugoslavia ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Yugoslavia ?

Markus

Yes, developed from the soviet original.

[Aktungbby]

100 mm MT-12 smoothbore antitank gun from the (soviet 2A-29) ?

[Jimbuna]

Afraid not but it is a 'smoothbore' :)

CLUE: I believe there are somewhere in the region of ten operators and former operators.

[Eichhörnchen]

UBM-52 mortar

[Jimbuna]

That's the one :up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mortar_UB_M52

https://i.postimg.cc/gkhtPThW/Teski-minobacac-120-mm-UB-M52-2011-7242.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Take it away :salute:

[Eichhörnchen]

Thank God for that - back soon :haha:

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/YCntuwt.jpg What's this?

[Jimbuna]

You're having a laugh surely? :o

[Catfish]

a car fender painted with white teeth? :doh:

[Jimbuna]

Chess board?

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/p3JcnMU.jpg

@ Catfish - you got the white teeth bit right

@ Jim - no

[Jimbuna]

A container?

[Aktungbby]

'tiger' fusilage painting?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - no

@ Aktung - not a tiger

[Jimbuna]

An animal though?

[Catfish]

Post ww2?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - yes, but not four legged

@ Catfish - no, not post WW2

https://i.imgur.com/vTZeZ05.jpg

[Catfish]

WW1 ?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Not WW1

[Aktungbby]

@ Aktung - not a tiger P-40 Warhawk?

[Catfish]

Single engine fighter?

[Jimbuna]

An ornament of a two-legged animal?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Aktung - no

@ Catfish - no

@ Jim - no

[Jimbuna]

An aeroplane with the same name as a two-legged animal?

[Eichhörnchen]

An aeroplane with the same name as a two-legged animal?

I screwed up slightly - it is the name of a four legged animal

https://i.imgur.com/52XwiJ2.jpg

[Jimbuna]

So, an aeroplane with the same name as a four-legged animal

[Eichhörnchen]

This version of it received the nickname of a 4 legged animal

[Jimbuna]

WW2 era?

[Eichhörnchen]

Pre WW2

[Jimbuna]

Post WW1?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes

[Catfish]

Two engines?

[Jimbuna]

Single-engined?

[Eichhörnchen]

This version two engines

[Aktungbby]

british?

[Catfish]

US ?

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/HdDndRf.jpg Neither British nor US

[Aktungbby]

german ME 110?

[Catfish]

^ i already thought so, but the 110 with 3 or 4 engines ? .. also this was used IN ww2.. :hmmm:
German?

Belay that ..

Tupolev PS-9 (ANT-9) Krokodil ? (with the "propaganda nose")

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/PoV3uCa.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5Bzl36p.jpg

[Jimbuna]

A bit of a weirdo is that :o

[Catfish]

^ indeed ..
first thought it was an Avro Manchester, two 4-engined Lancasters were painted with sharks teeth, but not the Manchester .. and the M. was used into ww2, and then Glynn wrote it was not british :doh: :haha:

This one should be a bit easier..

https://i.imgur.com/ALVJ1bLl.jpg

[Eichhörnchen]

My idea was that everyone would be looking for a military plane :)

[Jimbuna]

Seaplane?

[Catfish]

^ Yes, a seaplane.

My idea was that everyone would be looking for a military plane :)
Yes you had us all fooled i guess :haha:

[Jimbuna]

German?

[Catfish]

The photo was taken in Autralia

Yes, german :hmph:

[Jimbuna]

Junkers W 33?

[Catfish]

^ no..

[Jimbuna]

WWII era?

[Catfish]

^ Yes, also used in WW2.

[Jimbuna]

Heinkel HE 115

[Catfish]

^ afraid not

[Jimbuna]

Twin-engine?

[Catfish]

Good question :03: No!

[Jimbuna]

Do-24?

[Catfish]

Do-24?
That's the one! :up:

https://i.imgur.com/32r5a41l.jpg

Here during WW2 in australian service after getting some from the Dutch, when the latter were steamrolled by the japanese.

https://i.imgur.com/WWw1zELb.jpg

https://www.goodall.com.au/australian-aviation/dornier-24/dornierDo24.html

https://9gag.com/tag/dornier-do-24/fresh

It was a very good plane, in service from 1937 until long after the war internationally, mostly for SAR service.

https://www-flugrevue-de.translate.goog/klassiker/ein-hoehepunkt-in-der-flugbootentwicklung-dornier-do-24/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true

There also was an amphibian version, the Do 24 ATT (https://www.flugzeug-lexikon.de/ILA_2008/alte_Flugzeuge/Dornier_Do-24_ATT/dornier_do-24_att.html).

https://www.deutsches-museum.de/flugwerft-schleissheim/ausstellung/militaerluftfahrt/dornier-do-24

Over to you Jim :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Not a bad looking plane actually.

On the prowl for something now.

[Jimbuna]

Okay then, what is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/m2LFdKBD/thttjjj.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

It looks like a part of a turret on a warship.
(I guess it is not)

Military ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Yes to military.

[Aktungbby]

naval?

[Jimbuna]

Negative.

[Ostfriese]

Tank turret?

[Catfish]

British?

[Jimbuna]

Tank turret?

Not a tank but not too dissimilar.

[Jimbuna]

British?

Not British but they do have something along these lines and of the same calibre.

[mapuc]

Placed on a truck ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Yes

[mapuc]

Type of MLRS ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Close but no cigar :)

[Eichhörnchen]

Anti Aircraft?

[Jimbuna]

No, this is a howitzer.

[Aktungbby]

'Merikan?

[mapuc]

France ?

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

I'm going cross-eyed looking at truck-mounted howitzers - I never would've thought there were so many :wah:

[Jimbuna]

'Merikan?

France ?

Markus

Neither.

[Jimbuna]

I'm going cross-eyed looking at truck-mounted howitzers - I never would've thought there were so many :wah:

Hence my choice :03:

CLUE: One of the current operators is a country I honeymooned in 1984

[mapuc]

Being used in Ukraine ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Being used in Ukraine ?

Markus

Not as far as I'm aware.

[Catfish]

South african?

[Eichhörnchen]

Turkey?

[Catfish]

^ one question at a time? :O:

Jim spent his honeymoon in Serbia? :D

[Jimbuna]

Not one of the current, future or potential operators.

[mapuc]

China ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Not China.

[Aktungbby]

slovakian?

[Jimbuna]

A lot closer than China.

[Aktungbby]

six wheeled?

[Eichhörnchen]

Spain?

[Jimbuna]

six wheeled?

Afraid not.

[Jimbuna]

Spain?

No but a nearby country has ordered some.

[Jimbuna]

Another photo.

https://i.postimg.cc/HnSJHTXB/th6thtyy.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Aktungbby]

No but a nearby country has ordered some. Serbian Nora B52? Algeria (Near Spain):timeout: has 54 on order

[Catfish]

I asked whether Jim's honeymoon was just of all in Serbia, but there was no answer :D

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2875639&postcount=4857

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2875677&postcount=4862

That "some state close to Spain" or at least more close than China (lol) ordered any of those howitzers, does not give any hint to where it is produced.

Totally clueless here :hmmm:

[Eichhörnchen]

I was thinking Portugal may have ordered some?

[Jimbuna]

I asked whether Jim's honeymoon was just of all in Serbia, but there was no answer :D

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2875639&postcount=4857

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2875677&postcount=4862

That "some state close to Spain" or at least more close than China (lol) ordered any of those howitzers, does not give any hint to where it is produced.

Totally clueless here :hmmm:

No, I honeymooned in Cyprus :)

[Jimbuna]

Serbian Nora B52? Algeria (Near Spain):timeout: has 54 on order

That's the one :up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nora_B-52

https://i.postimg.cc/L5Kkhc4z/1280px-MA-Nora-B-52.jpg (https://postimg.cc/WF8qHfk3)

Over to you :salute:

[Aktungbby]

JEEEZE!:k_confused: I just awakened to....victory!:timeout: I'll have something shortly.EDIT: What's this? https://subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=13240

[Jimbuna]

A part off a car?

[Aktungbby]

nope!

[Jimbuna]

Sculpture?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[mapuc]

Related to water ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Religious connection?

[Catfish]

Something to do with water pressure?

[Aktungbby]

Related to water ?yes!

Markus

Religious connection?..."when the sea shall give up its dead"....possibly

Something to do with water pressure?indeed

[Eichhörnchen]

Is this on a ship?

[Jimbuna]

An escape hatch?

[Catfish]

I'm sure i've seen this before somewhere :hmmm:

German?

[Aktungbby]

Is this on a ship?from time to time

An escape hatch? no

I'm sure i've seen this before somewhere :hmmm:

German? I'm sure U have too! Not German :D:timeout:

[Catfish]

Part of a deep-diving 'vessel' ?

[Eichhörnchen]

Was this made in the 1930s?

[Aktungbby]

Part of a deep-diving 'vessel' ?yes

Was this made in the 1930s?no

[Jimbuna]

Trieste?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Catfish]

Military?

[Jimbuna]

Two man crew?

[Aktungbby]

Military?

Two man crew?

probably from time to time

not sure how many in "crew" but one fer sure!...The late Mr. Rush of OceanGate wishes he'd had a titanium version of it....(practically a :dead: giveaway...I prefer Australian neoprene myself..) :arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

Deepsea Challenger?

[Catfish]

part of a US subsea program?

[Aktungbby]

Deepsea Challenger?...much, much earlier

part of a US subsea program?
not to my knowledge; it made the front covers of Je Sais Tout & Popular Mechanic magazines! It featured electric lights and a telephone and was launched from a derrick...occasionally in Long Island Sound! :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Is this now in a museum?

[Aktungbby]

not to my research inquiry; modern equivalents can go to 700 meters: the one in the thread puzzle weighed 550 lbs; made it to 213 feet: and wasn't watertight!!? Their principle utility is that one does not get the 'bends' from wearing one.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/D0MCRmd7/iron-man.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Ostfriese]

Robby the Robot!

[Aktungbby]

TAA DAAA!otherwise known as an ADS (armored dive suit) that won't implode? Invented and patented in 1914 by Chester Macduffee,https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-q2UjHBg50ew/XuuPQIbN0bI/AAAAAAAAYXw/EYCX9mJqW-Y_HMgvQLJbOHDdo8LXaIPzgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/diving-suits%2B%25281%2529.jpg about whom little is known!!? What a puzzle for a submersible-oriented forum!:D Over 2 Jimbuna! & Well DONE!:Kaleun_Salute: it made the front covers of Je Sais Tout & Popular Mechanic magazines! https://cyberneticzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/pm-jun-1913.jpg https://cyberneticzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1914-macduffee-deep-sea-diving-suit-4.jpg https://cyberneticzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/macduffee-sciam-aug22-1-640x427.jpg<patented right hand grip

[Jimbuna]

What is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKcY8tmY/tttujkkuh.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

Left wing on a WWII fighter plane ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Not quite :)

[Catfish]

well done Jim for this last challenge :salute:
i would never have found that, being sure it was part (pressure hull) of some special deep sea submarine :haha:

Left wing on a WWII fighter plane ?
Markus
Not quite :)
Right wing of some plane? :03:

[Jimbuna]

well done Jim for this last challenge :salute:
i would never have found that, being sure it was part (pressure hull) of some special deep sea submarine :haha:



Right wing of some plane? :03:

Correct :)

Apologies Markus :03:

[Catfish]

Jet plane?

[Jimbuna]

Propeller

[Aktungbby]

British?

[Jimbuna]

Afraid not

[Catfish]

Soviet?

[Jimbuna]

Not Soviet :)

[Catfish]

Hmm, japanese?

[Jimbuna]

Not Axis :)

[Catfish]

:hmmm: US plane?

[Jimbuna]

Yes sir.

[Catfish]

Though the wing leading edge is straight, in your photo.. North American T-6 'Texan'?

[Eichhörnchen]

I know this - isn't that a narrow yellow stripe on the wing?

[Jimbuna]

Though the wing leading edge is straight, in your photo.. North American T-6 'Texan'?

Not a Texan.

[Jimbuna]

I know this - isn't that a narrow yellow stripe on the wing?

Can't say for sure, the picture not being in colour and the few coloured shots I've looked at don't appear to look like there is such a stripe.

CLUE: US built but not flown by the US

[Eichhörnchen]

Harvard?

[Jimbuna]

Not a Harvard.

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it a trainer?

[Jimbuna]

Not a trainer but designed with a specific purpose in mind.

CLUE: Not a great many were built.

[Aktungbby]

armed?

[Jimbuna]

Yes.

Clue: Technically speaking there were only three users.

[Eichhörnchen]

Dive bomber?

[Jimbuna]

Only when shot down :)

[Aktungbby]

two machine guns?

[Eichhörnchen]

Crew of two?

[Jimbuna]

two machine guns?

Yes and a choice of two calibres.

[Jimbuna]

Crew of two?

Single-seater.

[Aktungbby]

Boeing YP-29A

[Jimbuna]

Nooooo :haha:

[Aktungbby]

Boeing P-26 "Peashooter"?? !https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Peashooter.arp.750pix.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Still no cigar :)

Clue: Both machine guns were synchronised to fire through the propeller blades.

[Aktungbby]

1930's?

[Jimbuna]

First flight was pre WWII

[Eichhörnchen]

Was it a Curtiss design?

[Catfish]

I am wondering, how do you call those vertical "extending ribs" on a plane's wing?
I don't know how to describe it better lol :)

[Jimbuna]

Was it a Curtiss design?

Yes.

[Jimbuna]

I am wondering, how do you call those vertical "extending ribs" on a plane's wing?
I don't know how to describe it better lol :)

Not sure tbh

CLUE: Three-blade prop.

[Aktungbby]

Curtis P36 Hawk?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ I already looked at that but - "CLUE: US built but not flown by the US"

@ Catfish - do you mean 'wing fences'?

[Aktungbby]

Not a trainer but designed with a specific purpose in mind.

CLUE: Not a great many were built.

Yes.

Clue: Technically speaking there were only three users.

Yes and a choice of two calibres.

Single-seater.

Still no cigar :)

Clue: Both machine guns were synchronised to fire through the propeller blades.One .50, 0ne .30, thru the propeller later variants had additional in wings.
^ I already looked at that but - "CLUE: US built but not flown by the US"
First flight was pre WWII

Not sure tbh

CLUE: Three-blade prop.:hmmm:...not entirely happy with the P-36 mysel(geordi-speke) so I'll switch to the Curtiss Hawk-75- used in China> https://www.warbirdforum.com/curtissp36.jpg...thanks for leading me to the "promised land"!:salute:

[Jimbuna]

Curtis P36 Hawk?

^ I already looked at that but - "CLUE: US built but not flown by the US"



Not flown by the US but some were piloted by Americans.

[Jimbuna]

One .50, 0ne .30, thru the propeller later variants had additional in wings.



:hmmm:...not entirely happy with the P-36 mysel(geordi-speke) so I'll switch to the Curtiss Hawk-75- used in China> https://www.warbirdforum.com/curtissp36.jpg...thanks for leading me to the "promised land"!:salute:

Nope :haha:

Just found out the plane in question had four machine guns :o

[Aktungbby]

from the start or added subsequently?:timeout:

[Jimbuna]

Just checked both my reference links (which I will post at the conclusion) and as far as I can ascertain the initial armament was two machine guns and later upgrades were fitted with four.

[Catfish]

[...] @ Catfish - do you mean 'wing fences'?
Thanks, that should be it :salute:

[Jimbuna]

^ I already looked at that but - "CLUE: US built but not flown by the US"

@ Catfish - do you mean 'wing fences'?

Thanks, that should be it :salute:

Ah right, thanks for that clarification....but no, not wing fences.

Another shot.

https://i.postimg.cc/XvZrZbjp/gnnyy.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Catfish]

^ your photo shows wing fences, just like the Harvard/T6 - which is why they have already been proposed..

Curtiss-Wright CW-19 or CW-21?

[Eichhörnchen]

Radial engine?

[Aktungbby]

Curtiss 75A-6?

[Jimbuna]

^ your photo shows wing fences, just like the Harvard/T6 - which is why they have already been proposed..

Curtiss-Wright CW-19 or CW-21?

Does it? My crap eyesight then :o

The CW-21 it is :up:

https://i.postimg.cc/tJpZgRXW/curtiss-wright-cw21-demon.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.php?aircraft_id=1216

Over to you :salute:

[Catfish]

^ i mean this one 'rib' protruding of the wing, i take it it is not a real "wing fence" but rather some protruding edge/construction to connect the outer wings to the center part(?) :hmmm:

ok, what is this?

https://i.imgur.com/O5z541Ll.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Aircraft undercarriage?

[Catfish]

^ yes :)

[Aktungbby]

German?

[Catfish]

^ yes :)

[Jimbuna]

Jet?

[Catfish]

^ again a yes :)

[Jimbuna]

WWII era?

[Catfish]

^ yes, but it had repercussions well into the post-war era

[Jimbuna]

Heinkel He 162?

[Catfish]

^ afraid not

[Jimbuna]

One engine?

[Catfish]

^ correct

[Jimbuna]

Arado Ar 234?

[Catfish]

Sorry, not an Arado (or a Heinkel)

[Eichhörnchen]

VTOL?

[Catfish]

Not a VTOL.

But it had a special feature regarding its wings.

[mapuc]

Blohm & Voss ?

Markus

[Catfish]

^ sorry, not a Blohm & Voss either.

It was an experimental project and built. I am not sure whether it flew in Germany. There is one photo that maybe shows it taking off, but it could well be a very similar-looking jet after the war. Hint: experimental in the USA.

[mapuc]

Focke-Wulf ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Not a Focke-Wulf either..

it was one of the major german plane producers in WW2, does that ring a Bell?

[Eichhörnchen]

Dornier?

[Catfish]

^ i don't know whether Dornier built a jet during WW2 :hmmm:

Sorry, not a Dornier ..

so this did not ring a BELL :D

[Jimbuna]

Bachem Ba 349 Natter?

[Catfish]

^ afraid not
(if i were a smart-a... I'd say the Bachem would be a rocket plane rather than a jet)

One of the biggest german manufacturer and designer of aircraft in WWII, with expertise in jet planes

[Jimbuna]

Messerschmitt Me P.1101?

https://i.postimg.cc/rsSq2YRJ/messerschmitt-me-p1101.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

Messerschmitt ?

Markus

[Catfish]

^ Yes, Messerschmitt

Messerschmitt Me P.1101? [...]

^ Yes :):up:
This is it it, the Me P.1101. German forefather of the Swing Wing, the wings could be tilted in several angles for tests, but not during flight.

https://i.imgur.com/c0Hawxql.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/agTDfgDl.jpg

Being stored outside for some time the bird suffered badly until it was picked up and flown to the USA for evaluation; US personnel making some souvenir photos during this time

https://i.imgur.com/2Kk78dvl.jpg


https://www.luftarchiv.de/index.htm?/flugzeuge/messerschmitt/me1101.htm

http://www.luft46.com/mess/mep1101.html


https://i.imgur.com/Zu98Lutl.jpg



The Bell (->being the hint) X5, with parts used from the Me P.1101, but using an Allison jet turbine instead of the german one:

https://i.imgur.com/2LJ5nJEl.jpg

https://planehistoria.com/x-5/?expand_article=1

Over to you Jim :salute:

[Jimbuna]

^ Yes :) :up:

Bit of an ugly bugga a thought :)

Just off to take the gaffa out for some holiday clothes so I'll be back this afternoon :Kaleun_Salute:

[Jimbuna]

Okay then, what is this beauty?

https://i.postimg.cc/CMNF79Yh/wwwwww.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Catfish]

An insect? :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Something much larger.

[Catfish]

A plant?

[Jimbuna]

Nothing 'living'

[mapuc]

Part of a building ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

No but it is inside a building.

[mapuc]

A Sculpture ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Sited within a building.

[Catfish]

Created by a famous artist?

[Jimbuna]

Created by a famous artist?

Not as far as I'm aware.

CLUE: There is a religious connection.