Who / What / Where Game Part 2

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Yes

[Jimbuna]

Is the photo showing exhausts?

[Catfish]

six wheels / no tracks ?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - no

@ Kai - not six wheels

[Aktungbby]

manual or automatic transmission?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Neither

[Jimbuna]

Floats?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Aktungbby]

flies?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes - that was the plan anyway

[Aktungbby]

I've seen this thing, but can't think when...1960's?

[Jimbuna]

1950's?

[Eichhörnchen]

In design/development through 1950s, mock up stage reached end of 1960

[Aktungbby]

single seat or multi crew?

[Eichhörnchen]

Single seater

[Aktungbby]

jet?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes, Aktung

[Jimbuna]

You say it never flew?

[Catfish]

Float plane?

Thought of the Sea dart first, but that flew and i did not find a match of the photo

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim: that's right

@ Kai: Jim asked me that earlier - no floats

[Jimbuna]

I'm clean out of ideas.

[Aktungbby]

A Bell or Northrup project?

[Catfish]

The Rockwell XFV-12 went into the 70ies, so no luck either :hmmm:

Lockheed?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Aktung: yes, one of those :yep:

[Aktungbby]

northrup?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Catfish]

I fail to see any resemblance with what Eichhörchen posted in the pictures..
i had thought about the F-109 before, but the jet nozzles somehow do not fit.
So is it the Bell D-188A/F-109/F3L ? (the designations are theoretical anyway)

[Jimbuna]

I'll stab a guess at the Bell D-188A and if correct pass it over to Kai.

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/gEjJaUg.jpg

Bell D-188A (unofficial designations XF109 and XF3L)

[Aktungbby]

Rats! Under "1950's: Bell jet prototypes that never flew" the Bell D188 A does not appear...:hmmm: but I've led Catfish to the promised land....again:O:

[Jimbuna]

Over to Kai then :salute:

[Catfish]

Thanks Jim and Eichhörnchen :)
re Aktung i thought of the F 109 days ago, the photos i had just did not match. But i am glad you almost found it :O:


So, what is that. I do not even have an exact designation :D

https://i.imgur.com/HzTCl0gm.jpg

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it somebody's winnebago RV?

[Catfish]

^ no

[Jimbuna]

A railway carriage?

[Catfish]

Not railway –

[Jimbuna]

A motor home?

[Catfish]

^ no, see Eichhörnchen's question above – not a motor home or "RV" (recreation vehicle) like a Winnebago or such.

[Jimbuna]

A lounge set?

[Catfish]

It is made for sitting comfortably, but not a lounge set.
hint: It was not made for a motor home, but it has a motor.

[Jimbuna]

Just for clarity, are we trying to name what it is or where it is located?

[Catfish]

Name is enough. Location would not make sense, there are several existing.

[Jimbuna]

Interior of a luxurious motor vehicle?

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it on a tram/trolleybus - no- that would be silly

https://i.imgur.com/cvbs5mx.jpg

[Aktungbby]

Does it have wheels?

[Catfish]

Interior of a luxurious motor vehicle?
Luxurious for the time i would say

Is it on a tram/trolleybus - no- that would be silly
https://i.imgur.com/cvbs5mx.jpg
^ :D No not a tram or trolleybus

Does it have wheels?
Oh yes.

[Eichhörnchen]

Is this fictitious?

[Catfish]

No it is very real, i was allowed to sit in the one on the photo.

Hint: both seats at the left can be turned, though they usually point to the left/forward.

[Jimbuna]

Packard Limousine?

[Catfish]

^ No

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it the saloon in an early civil airliner?

[Catfish]

^ no

Hint: Dorette loved it :03:

[Jimbuna]

Swallow?

[Catfish]

^ No
(OT but from the Austin Swallow to the Swallow company, they built nice cars – nothing to do with the object in question)

[Exocet25fr]

Zeppelin interior ?

[mapuc]

Zeppelin interior ?

Are you sure you want to take the ball if you have guessed it.

As Jim wrote some pages back-DON'T take part if you aren't interested in posting the next riddle.

Markus

[Aktungbby]

Well it ain't the Hindenburg! must been Dorrette Ardenne! still kickin' at 103!! A passenger cabin display in Freidrichshafen
Airship museum?

[Catfish]

Zeppelin interior ?
Not an airship or Zeppelin

Are you sure you want to take the ball if you have guessed it.
As Jim wrote some pages back-DON'T take part if you aren't interested in posting the next riddle. Markus
Well he will have to, otherwise ... vee haff vays ... :O:

Well it ain't the Hindenburg! must been Dorrette Ardenne! still kickin' at 103!! A passenger cabin display in Freidrichshafen
Airship museum?
Sorry, Dorette is the name in the german stories, i read her english/american name is Abigail or maybe Elvira. She does not really exist..
No it is not in Friedrichshafen.
The thing on the photograph is standing in a depot at Einbeck in Germany, but i fear this will not help :03:

[Jimbuna]

Any connection with POW's?

[Catfish]

^ no

[Exocet25fr]

dann, ich werde nichts sagen!:O:

[Eichhörnchen]

A luxury touring coach?

[Catfish]

dann, ich werde nichts sagen!:O:
Ça va 😉

Relatively luxury, yes. How do you define ' coach'?

[Jimbuna]

Motorised?

[Catfish]

Yes..

[Jimbuna]

Petrol?

[Catfish]

Not petrol ;)

[Eichhörnchen]

Relatively luxury, yes. How do you define ' coach'? Coach as in Bus - in England this is what we call the more comfortable and well-appointed buses used to take people on holiday

[Aktungbby]

is this your own photo or is it else where on line?

[Catfish]

Coach as in Bus - in England this is what we call the more comfortable and well-appointed buses used to take people on holiday
Not a bus.. smaller. A car.
I looked up "coach", the definition goes from car to bus, railway car, wagon, a body (mounted on a chassis), or a horse-drawn coach.
It bears some reminiscence to a horse-drawn coach but as said before has its own engine.

is this your own photo or is it else where on line?
The interior can be seen on the web, but seldom - this is my own photo :03:

[Eisenwurst]

Hitler's diesel powered loungeroom??? :hmmm:

[Catfish]

^ :haha:
I should only answer one question :O:
So .. not Hitler's car

okok
also not a lounge room
and not Diesel-powered

https://i.imgur.com/eCYpQmgm.jpg

[Eisenwurst]

Ok, only 1 question....Electric powered??

[Catfish]

^ Yes!

[Jimbuna]

Tram?

[Catfish]

^ not a tram
Not a bus.. smaller. A car.

[Catfish]

https://i.imgur.com/VElJzDzm.jpg

[Eisenwurst]

Elvira Coot ( very sexy ) had an electric Oldsmobile?? :hmmm:

[Catfish]

^ Elvira, sometimes called Elviry, and even Abigail Coot at times (maybe second fore name); in Germany Erika Fuchs (translator of the Duck comic series) called her Dorette Duck.
Not an Oldsmobile, but on the right track

Some other famous people have been owning this type –

[Aktungbby]

is it the Enbeck LKW depot?https://i.prcdn.co/img?regionKey=QNQ3fqKKuSsbLaokb7yfVw%3D%3D This one is in detroit:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Grandma_Ducks_car_Detroit_Electric_1916_%284356208 020%29.jpg/769px-Grandma_Ducks_car_Detroit_Electric_1916_%284356208 020%29.jpg?20100611034819

[Catfish]

^ Yes, it is in one of the depots in Einbeck.
So what's the name? :D

ok it's in the text at the left

Detroit Electric with a 24V engine driving the rear axle, top speed around 50 km/h, range up to 60 km.


This is the one of Mr. Edison, with Mr. Edison:

https://i.imgur.com/QqsEcqVl.jpg


This is the one in Einbeck:

https://i.imgur.com/fVjrmJRm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/845MpSNm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nM5Dn4km.jpg


Body made of aluminium, steering is via a horizontal lever that can be moved vertically out of the way, and speed is controlled via a vertical lever.
The car can be steered from the driver's seat at the front left, or from the left back seat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er1ckHDnQpE

[Aktungbby]

Detroit built car?

[Catfish]

Detroit built car?
^ Please. Yes, sodaspeke :haha:
"Detroit Electric"
https://dewiki.de/Lexikon/Detroit_Electric_Car_Company

https://i.imgur.com/Q3P6pvJl.jpg

Over to you :salute:

[Aktungbby]

Yipes! Once Jimbuna put me onto Electricar's and I perused the Enbeck photos; my wife and daughter had seen the one I posted above at a nephew's recent wedding in Detroit while touring an automoble museum there... so no credit me; it's the wife: TADAA meets "it's a small planet"!:salute: Who's this?: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12904

[Jimbuna]

Grace Slick?

[Catfish]

Lots of haircuts like this ..
Mireille Matthieu?

or .. is it your wife?

[Aktungbby]

Grace Slick?Nope, but she could get you high

Lots of haircuts like this ..
Mireille Matthieu?

or .. is it your wife? Nope, but a mistake on her part could result in an even bigger bang

[Eichhörnchen]

In the field of nuclear fission?

[Jimbuna]

Imelde Marani?

[Aktungbby]

In the field of nuclear fission?nope

Imelde Marani? not italian; not a singer

[Jimbuna]

Actress?

[Eichhörnchen]

Is she a pilot of some kind?

[Aktungbby]

Actress?nope

Is she a pilot of some kind?YES!

[Catfish]

^ thought so.
Russian? Guess not, but had to ask

[Aktungbby]

not russian

[Eichhörnchen]

Well I'd already searched through every conceivable kind of female pilot (including astronauts) with no success, so my next question will have to focus on nationality: is she an American?

[Catfish]

I guess aerobatic/stunt?

[Aktungbby]

Well I'd already searched through every conceivable kind of female pilot (including astronauts) with no success, so my next question will have to focus on nationality: is she an American?She's an American's American! and quite unmissable at #1 in her profession. U simply need to
search mo' betah harder!:O: I guess aerobatic/stunt? nope. she's also a #1 flight engineer. They tend not to do loops and rolls.:shucks:

[Jimbuna]

Married?

[Eichhörnchen]

She doesn't appear to me in a search of Top American Female Flight Engineer

Does she perhaps work for NASA?

[Aktungbby]

Married?Since her last name is changed from her birth-name I would assume so. Moreover her dad, Gus, a retired Scandinavia Air pilot, ran an air service named after the family.

She doesn't appear to me in a search of Top American Female Flight Engineer

Does she perhaps work for NASA?Engineer was secondary to her 26 years as a commercial pilot 1973-1999 and feminist trailblazer(#1); the Scotsman in me wants to say 'she's a "bonny lass" indeed!:arrgh!: ...practically a dead giveaway:O:

[Catfish]

Bonnie Tiburzi?
https://nypost.com/2017/03/22/first-female-pilot-had-to-take-special-strength-tests-to-get-hired/
Though i did not find a good photo ..

[Eichhörnchen]

Bonnie Tiburzi?
https://nypost.com/2017/03/22/first-female-pilot-had-to-take-special-strength-tests-to-get-hired/
Though i did not find a good photo ..

https://i.imgur.com/JEECe7B.jpg

[Aktungbby]

Bonnie Tiburzi?
https://nypost.com/2017/03/22/first-female-pilot-had-to-take-special-strength-tests-to-get-hired/
Though i did not find a good photo ..https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x7NfHgFuy_s/maxresdefault.jpgCatfish takes it!:salute: Bonnie Tiburzi (born August 31, 1948), is an American aviator. In 1973, at age 24, she became the first female pilot for American Airlines and the first female pilot for a major American commercial airline.[1] At the same time she also became the first woman in the world to earn a Flight Engineer rating on a turbo-jet aircraft.:O:

[Jimbuna]

Looks a bit like a fella to me :)

[Eichhörnchen]

^ :har:

[Catfish]

^ ^ are there a lot of men looking like that, in Newcastle? :hmmm:


Google image finds every photo, wth. Have to look for something else ..

[Jimbuna]

^ ^ are there a lot of men looking like that, in Newcastle? :hmmm:


I've come across a few over the years whilst on patrol :03:

[Catfish]

^ :D ok


So, from which car type did i take this photo?

https://i.imgur.com/k4JHqcPm.jpg

[Aktungbby]

alpha romeo?

[Jimbuna]

Lancia Flavia?

[Catfish]

alpha romeo?
No
Lancia Flavia?
No

Both would be Z.. candidates, but neither fits here

[Jimbuna]

ASTON MARTIN DB4?

[Catfish]

^ No.
Does not have quite the looks, and a bit more spartan :D

[Jimbuna]

Italian?

[Catfish]

As seen in the Logo, Milano/Italy.
Hint: it was later also produced in the USA, under a different name.

[Eichhörnchen]

Ferrari 250 GT Zagato?

[Catfish]

quote from me re posts 1613/1614
"Does not have quite the looks, and a bit more spartan :D"

It is not exactly what the Zagato company is well-known for :03:

OT and not connected with this riddle: I think the Zagato body for the Aston-Martin DB4 easily beats anything Aston-Martin ever produced.

Unfortunately the looks is not what the car in question has to offer ..

[Jimbuna]

ALFA ROMEO Junior Z 1300, carrozzeria Zagato 1970?

[Catfish]

No.
Smaller..

[Aktungbby]

1960"s?

[Catfish]

mid-1970ies

[Catfish]

another photo

https://i.imgur.com/uO7AS0vl.jpg

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/At097i2.jpg Zagato Zele 1000

[Catfish]

^ That is it!
The Zagato "Zele", an electric mini car also produced in the US under the name "Elcar".

https://www.designboom.com/technology/zagato-zele-1974-auction-09-03-2018/

"The Zagato Zele 1000, 1500, 2000 (sold in the United States as the Elcar) was an electric microcar with a fiberglass body manufactured by the Italian design company Zagato.
Produced 1974–1976, the Zele was an unusual departure from Zagato's famous designs, which had long been known for their beauty and performance. The Zele, however, was high, square cornered and had a low top speed.
They were produced in 7 colors (Orange-red, Brown, Dark blue, Pastel blue, White, Green and metal flake Blue) and the chassis and suspension were derived from the Fiat 500 and Fiat 124.
The 1000, 1500, and 2000 stands for the wattage of the motors respectively. Approximately 500 were made."

The car depicted is even a real "1000", as exhibited in the "PS-Speicher" depots at Einbeck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zagato_Zele

https://i.imgur.com/iKXTri0m.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7dIaRvvl.jpg

Good job!
Over to Eichhörnchen:salute:

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Never seen anything like it in my life! :haha:

https://i.imgur.com/IYNgMDB.jpg What's this then?

[Catfish]

A boat?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Hovercraft?

[Eichhörnchen]

A little bit like one but I've not seen it called a hovercraft

[Catfish]

Built by an english company?

[Jimbuna]

Air cushion vehicle?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Catfish - no

@ Jim - yes - won't be long now I suppose, lol

[Jimbuna]

Dutch?

[Catfish]

Isn't an air cushion vehicle a "hovercraft"? :hmmm:

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - no

@ Catfish - a hovercraft is an air-cushion vehicle but not every air-cushion vehicle is a hovercraft :D

[Jimbuna]

American?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Russian?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yesky

[Catfish]

Military?

[Eichhörnchen]

Niet

[Jimbuna]

GAZ - 16A?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Aktungbby]

:hmmm:

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Don't give up :haha:

[Jimbuna]

Big enough to carry motor vehicles?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - no

[Aktungbby]

two passenger?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Aktung: no - more

[Jimbuna]

Used for excursions/trips?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Certainly - without giving anything away the makers list among its various uses "taxi, sports and recreation"

[Jimbuna]

Pegasus-6?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope - I googled Pegasus-6 which is variously a tent, a caravan or a Land Rover - it's none of those

[Jimbuna]

Larger than Pegasus?

[Eichhörnchen]

Hard to say - do you mean the tent or the caravan?

[Jimbuna]

Dimensionally overall.

[Eichhörnchen]

Tell me what a Pegasus is and I'll let you know :yep:

[bracer]

Is it a WIG (wings in ground) vessel?
https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/chp%3A10.1007%2F978-1-4614-0869-7_3/MediaObjects/210543_1_En_3_Fig18_HTML.jpg

[Aktungbby]

Does it have a skirt?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ bracer - yes it's the 'Aquaglide-5' light WIG craft

https://i.imgur.com/LBxvMaC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yTWCnHe.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uucSwEq.jpg Your turn to submit a puzzle, Mr bracer

[Jimbuna]

I was a million miles away from that.

[bracer]

Haha, what a bizarre looking vehicle!
Thanks, I will be back with a challenge soon!

[bracer]

Where is this?
https://i.imgur.com/g7u0NoO.png

[Aktungbby]

is it a diorama?

[bracer]

It doesn't have those painted backgrounds which I believe is needed to be called a diorama.

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it a frame from a movie?

[bracer]

No, not a movie.

[Eichhörnchen]

Is this something you made yourself?

[Jimbuna]

Crash Wipeout?

[bracer]

Is this something you made yourself?
Nope

[bracer]

Crash Wipeout?
Nix

[Ostfriese]

The car is a model car, and it looks like a Volvo, probably a 760. So I guess it's a model world, very likely somewhere in Sweden, and if I had to wager a guess I'd say Göteborg/Gothenburg, where Volvo cars are produced.

[bracer]

The car is a model car, and it looks like a Volvo, probably a 760. So I guess it's a model world, very likely somewhere in Sweden, and if I had to wager a guess I'd say Göteborg/Gothenburg, where Volvo cars are produced.
I don't know the car model, so I will only say it is not Sweden.

[Catfish]

"Hamburg Miniatur Wunderland"?

Though i was not able to find this scene ..

[Jimbuna]

A country in the EU?

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it somewhere in Europe?

[bracer]

"Hamburg Miniatur Wunderland"?

Though i was not able to find this scene ..


That's the place! Well done!
Over to you!

https://i.imgur.com/dJkPqxt.jpg

[Catfish]

^ i cannot quite imagine how this happened in rl unless this is some kind of artist idea :D


ok.. what does this belong to?

https://i.imgur.com/l7eCxZlm.jpg

[Eichhörnchen]

Is this another of your German museum photos?

[Catfish]

^ no comment :D

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/68CTXmp.jpg Model-T Ford halftrack conversion?

[Catfish]

This was fast :haha:
You got it!

Ford model T snow conversion

https://i.imgur.com/T4Fk60W.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HX8lwwSl.jpg

Over to you :salute:

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Looks like the first RV - quite cosy :)

Back soon

[Ostfriese]

That's the place! Well done!
Over to you!

https://i.imgur.com/dJkPqxt.jpg


Dear me, that's right around the corner from where I live, it would take me about 45 minutes to get there. Never been there, maybe I should change that.

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/55cDCid.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pM9OLZE.jpg


What is this intriguing thing?

I'm afraid this is the only photo I felt able to use without giving it away and I've had to enlarge it as it was so small

[Eisenwurst]

A very tiny Home Brew setup ??? :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Hot air balloon?

[Eichhörnchen]

Neither of the above

(Oh and I forgot to say - you'll never get this)

[Jimbuna]

Used for cooking?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[mapuc]

Is it one of your own plastic men you have gathered ?

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=252493

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Clever guess, Markus - but no

[Jimbuna]

Off a movie?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Jimbuna]

Found in todays household?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope, it's not a household item

[bracer]

Is the blue color sky in the background?

[Catfish]

Video game?

[Jimbuna]

Related to steam?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ bracer - yes

@ Catfish - No

@ Jim - No

[Jimbuna]

Is it a vehicle of some kind?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[bracer]

Is it a chimney spitting smoke?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Aktungbby]

used in commerce?

[Eichhörnchen]

No not specifically, although you can buy them if you wish

[bracer]

Some kind of hat/helmet?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope, doesn't go on yer head

[bracer]

Is it something you would wear?
Happy new year! :()1:

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope & Happy New Year to you too :Kaleun_Cheers:

[bracer]

Is it something used in combat?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Jimbuna]

Scientific connection?

[bracer]

Is it a building?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - yes, connected with one of the sciences

@ bracer - no

[Ostfriese]

Is that some sort of valve?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[mapuc]

Some kind of train ?

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[mapuc]

Some kind of engine ?

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Aktungbby]

is that a vapor coming out at the top?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[mapuc]

What my friends think is smoke or vapor, I think it could be cotton ?

Markus

[Ostfriese]

The white stuff looks like frozen condensed liquid (water?) to me. Is that thing in the picture something that is very cold or gets very cold during operation? A pipe or vent for pressurized gases maybe?

[Aktungbby]

does it have a specific function?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Markus - you're getting warmer, but it's not cotton

@ Ostfriese - no to all

@ Aktung - Yes, at the final stage of a complex process

[Ostfriese]

@ Markus - you're getting warmer, but it's not cotton


Some other thread? Maybe even artificial, like polyester?

[Ostfriese]

Has the picture been rotated?

[Eichhörnchen]

I'm only allowed to answer one question per person at a time - which one do you wish me to answer? :)

[Ostfriese]

I'm only allowed to answer one question per person at a time - which one do you wish me to answer? :)


Fair enough. Ignore the question about the rotation (second one), please.

[Eichhörnchen]

Okay - not an artificial thread

[Aktungbby]

@ Aktung - Yes, at the final stage of a complex process So, it's used to make something?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ No :haha:

[Aktungbby]

it's used to process something?

[Jimbuna]

A catalytic converter?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Aktung - a process does take place inside it

@ Jim - no

[bracer]

Is the white stuff a by-product?

[Jimbuna]

Is this thing static on the ground?

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/JU4Gcgk.jpg

@ bracer - no

@ Jim - above the ground

[Jimbuna]

Distillery?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Eichhörnchen]

You wanna clue yet?

[bracer]

Is it being used today?

[Jimbuna]

Of course.

[Eichhörnchen]

@ bracer, these are not 'used' by people

That's your clue

[Aktungbby]

are they on poles?

[Catfish]

Something something cows?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Aktung - there might be one on a pole somewhere, but that's not where you'd normally find them

@ Kai - nothing to do with cows (:06:)