Who / What / Where Game Part 2

[Catfish]

In the US?

[Jimbuna]

Not the US

[Catfish]

Europe?

[Jimbuna]

Getting closer :)

[Eichhörnchen]

Statue of Jesus?

[Catfish]

Getting closer :)
Hmm, Asia?

[Jimbuna]

Statue of Jesus?

No but it is a statue.

[Jimbuna]

Hmm, Asia?

Sure us.

[Aktungbby]

in a church?

[mapuc]

Is it a statue of Buddha ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

in a church?

In a temple.

[Jimbuna]

Is it a statue of Buddha ?

Markus

It is yes.

[Catfish]

Thailand?

[Aktungbby]

Have you seen this buddha yersel?

[Jimbuna]

Thailand?

Afraid not.

[Jimbuna]

Have you seen this buddha yersel?

Never been to this country but many an American has.

[Aktungbby]

is it near India?

[Jimbuna]

is it near India?

Not really and is a much smaller country.

[mapuc]

Cambodia ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

further east

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it in Hanoi?

[Jimbuna]

Further east.

CLUE: Over 1000 years old.

[Catfish]

Taiwan?

[Jimbuna]

Getting close.

[Aktungbby]

Japan?

[Jimbuna]

Sure is.

[Aktungbby]

Chion-in temple at Kyoto, Japan?

[Catfish]

At historical Kurashiki "Park"?

[Jimbuna]

Chion-in temple at Kyoto, Japan?

Not Kyoto.

[Jimbuna]

At historical Kurashiki "Park"?

Nope but in a city.

[Aktungbby]

Bronze or gold leaf?

[Jimbuna]

I honestly don't know but I'll try a little research.

[Catfish]

A statue of some guardian?

Deleted, thanks Marcus :up:

[mapuc]

A statue of some guardian?

The Statue is Buddha

Markus

[Catfish]

The Statue is Buddha
Markus
Ah ok thank you, I overlooked that.
That leaves only some 10.000 temples then :D

In a big city?

[Jimbuna]

In a city yes but not sure how big it is in comparison to others.

CLUE: Weighs well over 100 tons.

[Catfish]

Great Buddha of Todaiji temple?

[Aktungbby]

...been staring at that one myself; but the garment wrinkle doesn't match up :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Bronze or gold leaf?

Found it and it is Bronze.

[Jimbuna]

...been staring at that one myself; but the garment wrinkle doesn't match up :hmmm:

Then you'd be wrong :)

Great Buddha of Todaiji temple?

It most certainly is :up:

https://i.postimg.cc/25s6Q7Gh/DAIBUTSU-BUDDHA-NARA-JAPAN.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C5%8Ddai-ji

Over to you :salute:

[Catfish]

I read this Buddha weighs around 500 tons, and is cast in one piece :o
:k_confused:

Will have something shortly –

[Catfish]

So what is this ..

https://i.imgur.com/BndR4UDm.jpg

[Aktungbby]

a scaly, horned prehistoric beast?

[Catfish]

^ "Horned" is debatable, but enough graphic information to solve it shortly :03:

[Jimbuna]

Borealopelta?

https://i.postimg.cc/NFGL1ptd/borealopelta-dino-trackers-1536x934.jpg (https://postimg.cc/k6ZnCNBS)

[Catfish]

^ yes, this is it, the Nodosaur Borealopelta :up:

"Borealopelta (meaning "Northern shield") is a genus of nodosaurid ankylosaur from the Lower Cretaceous of Alberta, Canada."

https://i.imgur.com/2NpiaZ2.jpg

Why has it been preserved so well: https://www.livescience.com/60243-how-nodosaur-dinosaur-fossilized-in-3d.html


I had dozens of great photos, even some from a friend and definitely not on the 'net, but even with the picture turned, twisted, mirrored, cut into pieces and changing colours Google Image/Lens always found it at first try :doh:

So i chose this illustration, but ... :03:

Over to you Jim :salute:

[Aktungbby]

I knew I'd seen the critter & the illustration previously but couldn't recall where...:timeout:

[Jimbuna]

I had dozens of great photos, even some from a friend and definitely not on the 'net, but even with the picture turned, twisted, mirrored, cut into pieces and changing colours Google Image/Lens always found it at first try :doh:

So i chose this illustration, but ... :03:

Over to you Jim :salute:

It was quite easy really seeing as how I'm married to it :)

Back shortly.

[Jimbuna]

What is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/YCp68KNx/blob.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Aktungbby]

WWII tank?

[ROCK BOTTOM]

can you physically change the colors of the sub other than the black or gray in the modding

[Jimbuna]

WWII era but not a tank.

[Catfish]

It was quite easy really seeing as how I'm married to it :) [...].
:rotfl2::har:

[Aktungbby]

can you physically change the colors of the sub other than the black or gray in the moddingROCK BOTTOM!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Catfish]

On a ship?

[Jimbuna]

On a ship?

On land.

[Catfish]

Gun emplacement?

[Jimbuna]

Not an emplacement but it is a gun.

[Catfish]

From WW2?

[Jimbuna]

Just before and up to the conclusion.

[Catfish]

british?

[Jimbuna]

Not British and another picture clue.


https://i.postimg.cc/nhPp1WCP/ffgdsr.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Catfish]

German?

[Jimbuna]

Nope :)

[Catfish]

Hmm allied?

[Jimbuna]

Nope.

[Aktungbby]

japanese?

[Jimbuna]

It is.

[Aktungbby]

I figgered yer on a nipponese binge of late!:O:[...:hmmm: a field artillery piece?

[Jimbuna]

Indeed and used against your countrymen from time to time.

[Aktungbby]

howitzer?

[Jimbuna]

Yes :)

[Aktungbby]

well....now that I"ve magnanimously led Eich and Catfish to the promised land!...:O::Kaleun_Sleep:

[Jimbuna]

Your all heart :)

[Aktungbby]

https://i.gifer.com/HqYU.gifhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Field_Gun_in_Romsey_Park.jpg/1920px-Field_Gun_in_Romsey_Park.jpgType 96 15 cm howitzer

[Jimbuna]

That's the one so need to post my picture which is identical.

Over to you :salute:

[Aktungbby]

Your all heart :) Their 10 seconds were up!:arrgh!: What's this? https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=13258

[Jimbuna]

Scaffold pipes?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[mapuc]

Barrel ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Part of a building?

[Eichhörnchen]

Rocket launching tubes?

[Aktungbby]

Barrel ?

Markusyes

Part of a building?nope

Rocket launching tubes?nope

[Jimbuna]

On a vehicle?

[Eichhörnchen]

Bangalore torpedos?

[Aktungbby]

On a vehicle?yes

Bangalore torpedos?nope

[Catfish]

Treaded vehicle?

Like M50 'Ontos' ? :hmmm:

[Aktungbby]

Yes! 'exactly like'. Sometimes yer reely ONTOSumpin":O: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/M50A1_Ontos.jpg/1280px-M50A1_Ontos.jpg Ontos, officially the Rifle, Multiple 106 mm, Self-propelled, M50, is an American light armored tracked anti-tank vehicle developed in the 1950s.

It mounted six 106 mm manually loaded M40 recoilless rifles as its main armament, which could be fired in rapid succession against single targets to increase the probability of a kill. Although the actual caliber of the main guns was 105 mm, it was designated 106 mm to prevent confusion with the ammunition for the 105 mm M27 recoilless rifle, which the M40 replaced.

It was produced in limited numbers for the U.S. Marines after the U.S. Army cancelled the project. The Marines consistently reported excellent results when they used the Ontos for direct fire support against infantry in numerous battles and operations during the Vietnam War. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Ontos.jpg:salute: over to Catfish

[Catfish]

I was sure it had to be guns with those lands and grooves visbile in the fore ends. Seems this M 50 was used with some effect.
The Marines consistently reported excellent results when they used the Ontos for direct fire support against infantry in numerous battles and operations during the Vietnam War.
I sometimes wonder why some successful ideas that have proven their effectiveness, are given up. I would imagine this thing would prove valuable nowadays also for Ukraine.
Same applies to the A-10 Warthog.

[Catfish]

So what is this?

https://i.imgur.com/2k9SkAcm.jpg

[Aktungbby]

trinity bomb tower?

[Jimbuna]

Airship Tender?

[Catfish]

No to both –

[mapuc]

Something to do with Radio signals ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Sorry, nothing to do with radio.

[mapuc]

Drilling ?

Markus

[Catfish]

No drilling.

[mapuc]

It can't be radar related or is it ?

Markus

[Catfish]

^ No.
Nothing with emitting or detecting signals

"Hint":
This has been invented shortly after the invention of the overseas telegraphing system from italian Marconi, but has nothing to do with it.

[Aktungbby]

used in construction?

[Catfish]

used in construction?
No.
Try harder :O:

[Aktungbby]

does it float?

[Catfish]

^ Oh yes.

[Eichhörnchen]

Oil rig? Belay that - no drilling

[Catfish]

Sorry, nothing to do with that

[Aktungbby]

German?

[Catfish]

Not german

[Jimbuna]

American?

[Catfish]

I heard it was also used in the US, but afaik neither built nor invented there.

[Jimbuna]

Is it a 'one-off'?

[Catfish]

No, there were several.

[Jimbuna]

Salvage vessel?

[Catfish]

Sorry, not for salvage

[Aktungbby]

british?

[Jimbuna]

Military use?

[Catfish]

@AktungBby: not british

@Jim: As far as I know only civilian use.

[Jimbuna]

Pre WWI?

[Catfish]

I do not know, and i cannot find out. It was sure used in before, in, and after 1920. I take it that it soon became obsolete.

edit: one bad photo seems to show that it was also used for a military ship, but the initial invention was for civilian purposes

[Jimbuna]

Struggling to find anything remotely close picture-wise :doh:

[Catfish]

^ I just found this out myself. I had never heard of this before and took the photo from the book I am just reading :03:

Hint: Name of the book is "Principessa Mafalda". Which is one of the ships using this construction ..

Another photo:

https://i.imgur.com/oX6NNdcm.jpg

[Aktungbby]

was the Pricipessa Jolanda also constructed this way? The vessel is a fitting out ship for vessel completion after the initial hull drydock construction is complete and slid down the quay into the water for completion at the fitting-out berth. Funnels, engines and interiors would be added at this phase.

[Catfish]

The Principessa Jolanda was the sister ship of the P. Mafalda, but it sank during launching. They had made an error in already fitting the ship out with all its deck superstructures and interior, without adding proper ballast and coal.
This was not repeated when building the Mafalda, which was used for transatlantic voyages to South America, from Genova.

The object you are looking for is not a part of either ship, nor has it anything to do with the building, sinking or salvage.
It was rather an invetion to speed certain things up.

[Aktungbby]

a certain thing or more than one certain thing?:timeout::doh::hmmm:

[Catfish]

Yes :)

[Jimbuna]

Floating dock?

[Aktungbby]

did it have anything to do with either of the principessa's?

[Catfish]

Floating dock?
Not a floating dock.
a certain thing or more than one certain thing?:timeout::doh::hmmm:
At least a description of what it does, and then the name of the whole thing.
did it have anything to do with either of the principessa's?
Yes, with the one that did not sink during launch :03:
The Principessa Mafalda was not the only ship to use those things though.

[Aktungbby]

capablE OF OPEN SEA TRAVEL?

[Catfish]

Some were indeed brought over the Atlantic to the US. There were some.. barges w/o own propulsion needing a pushing boat, but they also talk of two freighters that have been converted to have those.. installations.
Several must have been used in New York harbour, at the time.
An American in N. York is quoted to have been surprised that this modern technology was NOT from the US.
But the real purpose they served could only be done in harbours/very still water.
As said before they became obsolete at some point.

Big hint:
They were initially invented to speed up things, regarding transatlantic passenger steamers.

[Aktungbby]

dredging ship channels?

[Catfish]

Nope.
Hint: It was doing direct work on those transatlantic liners.

[Aktungbby]

does your vessel have a specific ship name

[Catfish]

No name mentioned, I guess they did not have any.
Maybe those two freighters that were rebuilt, but not those smaller ones like on the picture.

[Jimbuna]

Was it a clamping device for ship modules?

[Catfish]

No.

Hint: has to do with providing certain.. stuff to the ship :03:

[mapuc]

Was it Coal ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

is the tower structure referred to as a 'radial crane'?

[Catfish]

Was it Coal ?
Markus
YES
Now the name of the inventor, please..
is the tower structure referred to as a 'radial crane'?
No. Indeed it was very linear :D

[Aktungbby]

R U reading the german translation of Principessa Malfada or the Spanish one?

[Catfish]

German language, but by swiss author Stefan Ineichen

https://www.amazon.de/Principessa-Mafalda-Biografie-Transatlantikdampfers-Allgemeines/dp/3803137209

But you should not buy it just for this quest :)
Better ask ..

[Jeff-Groves]

Now the name of the inventor, please..



I call FOUL! You only asked what it is. Not the Name of the inventor!

[Catfish]

Not even the approximate name of this thing that Aktung called "vessel" has been written here :haha:

[...] At least a description of what it does, and then the name of the whole thing. [...].

[Aktungbby]

is the picture in the puzzle from the book cropped, showing the Principressa Malfada while being colliered by the puzzle vessel? My search under "photo: Principressa Malfada being coaled by collier vessel " is zilch!:03:

[Catfish]

^ uh what?
In my book there is a photo with the Principessa "colliered" (does this word even exist?) by one of these, yes.
And Google image also finds it, provided i post the whole picture of what I posted here.
Which is why I only posted a detail :03:

It was a new system that sped up the coaling of ships using coal to fire their steam engines. Which is why this system became obsolete when oil was used for heating the boilers (and later the Diesel-engined ships appeared).
Beforehand the coaling was done by men carrying coal buckets, which would take up to 24 hours for a ship like the P. Mafalda. With this new system coaling was done in less than six hours.

[Aktungbby]

...a 'collier' is a vessel specifically for the purpose of transporting coal in bulk...therefore your puzzle's vessel must needs be a collier. If looked up on Google, 'collier' specifically reflects the river Tyne and Newcastle as one of the earliest coal shipping ports with such ships; methinks our resident Banks Line 3rd engineer would have solved it by now!?:o Based on your comment above, I'm on the right track...just a few trestles short?? The great lakes WWII training carrier, USS LANGLEY was a converted collier :hmmm::shucks::O:

[Catfish]

I guess it was first used in Dakar, before the ocean liners made the "transatlantic jump" towards Buenos Aires.
It was not called a "collier" but a barge (which I mentioned), a pontoon, or a coal lighter, since most had no own propulsion.
So this is the word for the thing, but who invented it?

[Aktungbby]

Guisseppi Collieri?:D

[Catfish]

:haha: no, it is an italian name, and the surname will do

Hint: The invention was to take a coal collier/barge/pontoon/lighter/freighter/whatever/!"§$%&/!! and mount crane-like structures on it that vertically move the coal from the cargo hold to a height, where the chutes could release the coal directly into the ship's hull coaling portholes, which sped up the process significantly.
The Principessa was already one of the fastest ships of her time (called the greyhound of the seas), and the new technique made the voyage from Genova to South America even shorter.

[Aktungbby]

to reiterate; an italian designed lighter/pontoon/barge?

[Jimbuna]

Come on Vinnie, pee or get off the pot.......I'm waiting :)

[Aktungbby]

well I'm mingling my pleasures: watching Revolt of the Slaves with Rhonda Fleming and going with the 'boss" to her knee replacement therapy work out...:arrgh!:

[Catfish]

re Vinnie: yep.

[Jimbuna]

Is this the Milazzo or the Voltunno?

[Catfish]

Is this the Milazzo or the Voltunno?
Those are the two freighters that were changed to accomodate this crane/chute system.
There were lots of lighters with those chutes and the two freighters you mentioned.
The photo is just one of all those lighters without propulsion, they usually have no name.

We need the name of this coaling chute system, or its inventor (name is the same)

[Jimbuna]

Emilio Menada?

[Aktungbby]

...it seems the Milazzo(the world's largest collier!! :yep:) was eidelviessed:O: by Georg Ritter von Trapp's U-boat, U-14, in 1917...after one year of service!!:hmmm::oops::arrgh!::yeah: I searched diligently but fruitlessly for italian coal barge/lighter/pontoon photos at Genoa Dakar or Buenos Aires, the Principessa Malfada's principle ports-of-call on the Italian cruise circuit... untill the driveshaft discombobulation holeing of the hull off Brazil...Nice one Jimbo!:salute::timeout:

[Jimbuna]

Not sure if I've given the correct answer yet :hmmm:

[Aktungbby]

Not sure if I've given the correct answer yetI came-a-cropper; U came-a-wopper!:O:

[Jimbuna]

I came-a-cropper; U came-a-wopper!:O:

?????????

[Catfish]

Emilio Menada?

YES! :up:

This is the one, Emilio Menada. Those barges were called "Menada pontoons" / "Menada's patent coaling lighters" or in german "Menada's Patent Bunker Schuten"

https://i.imgur.com/LIrDpAul.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YDNSF2Fl.jpg

http://www.menada.it/archivi/emilio_1863/pontoni_menada.pdf

https://www.aidmen.it/articles.html/articles/meccanizzazione-nel-carbonamento-e-nello-sbarco-di-rinfuse-r64/

english translation:

https://www-aidmen-it.translate.goog/articles.html/articles/meccanizzazione-nel-carbonamento-e-nello-sbarco-di-rinfuse-r64/?_x_tr_sl=it&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

The new technology helped coaling up those liners much faster than it was done before: By workers carrying coal sacks.
When ships switched to oil-fired steam engines or to Diesel, those barges became quickly obsolete.

I admit this was difficult, there are only two links I found on the 'net.
Extremely well done Jim! :yeah:
Remind me the round is on me if you come to Germany, or if i ever meet you in England.

Over to you! :salute:

[Jimbuna]

I was never overly confident because looking up SS Milazzo mentioned she was designed by Emilio Menada but made no reference to pontoons etc. so I'd say it was only a guess or a long shot at best.

Oh and when you get over to Blighty.....mines a pint and a large rum and pep :03:

Looking for something now.

[Jimbuna]

What is this beauty?

https://i.postimg.cc/nr11g5yq/etgt55yuhg.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Aktungbby]

a sports car?

[Jimbuna]

Not so far as I'm aware.

[mapuc]

Machinery ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Yes it would fit under this category.

[mapuc]

Is it designed to move ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Most definitely.

[mapuc]

Kind of Tractor ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Not a tractor but close.

[Eichhörnchen]

Mass produced?

[Catfish]

On tracks?

[Jimbuna]

Mass produced?

Not mass produced but neither were there many of them.

[Jimbuna]

On tracks?

Wheeled.

[mapuc]

A combine/harvester ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

No connection with farming or agriculture.

[Aktungbby]

British?

[Jimbuna]

American.

[Aktungbby]

1930's?

[Jimbuna]

Earlier.

[Aktungbby]

civilian?

[Eichhörnchen]

Motorcycle?

[Jimbuna]

civilian?

Yep.

[Jimbuna]

Motorcycle?

Much bigger.

[mapuc]

Made for travelling on roads ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

Ford?

[Jimbuna]

Made for travelling on roads ?

Markus

Being a car I'd have to say yes.

[Jimbuna]

Ford?

Not a Ford.

CLUE: None are known to exist today as far as I'm aware.

[Aktungbby]

dodge?

[Jimbuna]

Afraid not.

CLUE: https://i.postimg.cc/1R8x0GNC/dfghkl.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Aktungbby]

1910's?

[Jimbuna]

Very close.

[Aktungbby]

1909?:D

[Jimbuna]

Higher :)

[Aktungbby]

1911?:D

[Jimbuna]

Yes.

[Aktungbby]

one of these?:D:haha: https://clickamericana.com/wp-content/uploads/The-top-automobiles-for-1911-Types-of-leading-motor-cars.jpg:har:

[Jimbuna]

Crafty bugga but nope :haha:

[Jeff-Groves]

:hmmm:


https://images49.fotki.com/v1680/photos/3/4033903/16173701/195354ToppsWorldonWheels1351-vi.jpg

[Jimbuna]

^ That's the one and over to you :salute:

[Jeff-Groves]

Who is this? For extra credit? What was he driving?
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1069&pictureid=13270

[Jimbuna]

American?

[Jeff-Groves]

No.

[Jimbuna]

European?

[Jeff-Groves]

Are you European?

[Jimbuna]

British? :)

[Jeff-Groves]

Yep.
:D

[Jimbuna]

Nigel Mansell?

[Jeff-Groves]

No. Nigel was born later.

[Jimbuna]

Graham Hill?

[Jeff-Groves]

Nope. Still a bit to young.

[Jimbuna]

Drove F1?

[Jeff-Groves]

Only one race, Yes.

[Jimbuna]

Colin Chapman?

[Jeff-Groves]

Nope.
He's probably better known in the USA.
I'd give you a hint of his name but I don't think I can.
:03:

[Aktungbby]

is he still alive?

[Jimbuna]

Was this single race in the 1950's?

[Jeff-Groves]

Sadly not alive.
:(

Single F1 Race was in the 60's

[Jimbuna]

Vic Wilson?

[Jeff-Groves]

No.
Now He was entered into the US Grand Prix but did not participate in the race.

[Jimbuna]

Mike Taylor?

[Jeff-Groves]

Nope.

One might associate Him with a certain snake.

[Catfish]

Carroll Hall Shelby ?
I love the Cobra, though i'd prefer the (english) original AH
I am not sure whether he ever was in an F1 race.

I guess i'm wrong :haha:

[Jeff-Groves]

Right Snake. Wrong Guy.
:haha:

[Aktungbby]

Ken Miles?

[Jeff-Groves]

That would be the Guy.
:up:

[Aktungbby]

that was my jimbuna-style "shot in the dark"(Catfish's italian collier designer);I know zilch 'bout F1 racing or Brit drivers...but my sister used to work for Shelby, so there it was; plus the wIfe & I had seen Christian Bale in Ford VS Ferrari at the local theater a tad back.. I'll have something shortly.

[Aktungbby]

Year, make, and model: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=13272

[Jimbuna]

The Turkish Bayraktar Akinci uav

https://i.postimg.cc/nzpkXzkv/1691507307589.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://cfts-org-ua.translate.goog/news/2023/06/23/turechchina_vidala_litsenziyu_kompani_baykar_na_vi robnitstvo_droniv_v_ukrani_75463?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baykar_Bayraktar_Ak%C4%B1nc%C4%B1

[Aktungbby]

too easy! over to you!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Jimbuna]

Put a name to this beauty.

https://i.postimg.cc/028Py7FV/rhyyuikjj.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Aktungbby]

military?

[Jimbuna]

Of course :)

[Aktungbby]

british warship?

[Jimbuna]

A warship but not British.

[Aktungbby]

WW II?

[Jimbuna]

Earlier.

[Aktungbby]

WW I?

[Catfish]

Four funnels?

[Jimbuna]

WW I?

Earlier.

[Jimbuna]

Four funnels?

Yes Sir.

[Aktungbby]

American?

[mapuc]

From the Spanish-American war era ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

American?

Nope :)

[Jimbuna]

From the Spanish-American war era ?

Markus

Wrong battle/war.

[Aktungbby]

german?

[Jimbuna]

Nope :)

[Jeff-Groves]

Russian?

[Jimbuna]

Nope and not many countries left now :)

[Jeff-Groves]

Japan?