Who / What / Where Game Part 2

[Catfish]

So russian at the time it was built (those 50 years ago)?

[Jimbuna]

Chinese?

[Aktungbby]

So russian at the time it was built (those 50 years ago)?yup

Chinese?nope; big (dead giveaway?) I wish I was in one during this miserable impending heatwave today!:wah:

[Jimbuna]

A cooling reactor?

[Aktungbby]

Not a reactor at all

[Jimbuna]

I think I'm outta ideas :doh:

[Eichhörnchen]

Some kind of refrigeration plant?

[Catfish]

Hmm, Aktung said something about "nuclear" context, and "electromagnetic" :hmmm:

Reactor cooling system?

[Aktungbby]

Some kind of refrigeration plant?it undoubtedly had cooling and heat facilities to house the crew

Hmm, Aktung said something about "nuclear" context, and "electromagnetic" :hmmm:

Reactor cooling system?Only in the sense of the nuclear era ie Cold War and any number of electro magnetic devices to accommodate communications and atmosphere mixology transfer valves for crew habitation/breathing; generally under pressure...which on occasion proved mortal. Eichhörnchen got the name half right in post 725!

[Catfish]

Some .. device to build Chernobyl, like construct a basement underwater, like a caisson?

[Aktungbby]

Some .. device to build Chernobyl, like construct a basement underwater, like a caisson? exactly, in fact "caisson disease" was a major issue; costing lives in on accidental surfacing. Now 4 the name...which Eich has already partially broached inadvertantly but abley...

[Eichhörnchen]

Chernomor II undersea lab

[Aktungbby]

It is indeed! Eich takes it!:salute: https://subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12703 https://medium.com/predict/historical-underwater-habitat-showcase-chernomor-ii-a-soviet-undersea-lab-3e84ece61c92

[Catfish]

Congratulations to Eichhörnchen :salute:
This was a nice one and a fascinating read in this link, have never seen nor heard of this. Sealab and Cousteau's yes, but not Chernomor.
(Sealab III also seems to have become a disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEALAB)

[Eichhörnchen]

Thanks, Kai - when it became apparent that this was some kind of undersea (perhaps polar) dwelling, I added my previous 'half correct' answer into a search for "underwater habitation cher"

A very difficult one so well done, Aktung



https://i.imgur.com/Eh7kHbe.jpg Now where would you have seen this?

[Catfish]

a template-sprayed number..
on a military vehicle?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Yes... that's the easy part taken care of :)... now on which vehicle?

[Catfish]

Jeep?

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/h5gkVkq.jpg Nope

[Catfish]

An aircraft?

[Jimbuna]

Dozer?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Catfish and Jim no to both

[Jimbuna]

US military?

[Catfish]

Ground vehicle?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - It would seem that this specific unit was British, although linked to similar departments run by the US and Soviets

@ Catfish - yes

[Jimbuna]

Is it a 'special' vehicle?

[Aktungbby]

your dad's military refreshment vehicle...as seen in your Korea fotos?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - no

@ Aktung - no, not my dad's Bedford QL 'NAAFI' truck - but you're warmer

[Jimbuna]

Army ambulance?

[mapuc]

M*A*S*H 4077

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/0fVeEax.jpg Neither of the above

[Catfish]

Roof of a commandeered VW beetle after WW2?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Exactly that! These were pressed into service with the Control Commission Germany, with whom they proved very popular. Aktung was getting close with his mention of my dad, who is shown here with his beetle when he was with the CCG in 1945

https://i.imgur.com/cUCdskL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zncnDgA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nJBdfkR.jpg

Well done, Catfish, except that it wasn't the roof!

[Catfish]

Aktung was so close :o
it wasn't the roof, you should have said no lol
I remembered this photo of your dad, but not the detail.
I have now saved it! (interesting info also, i am just reading a summary of the english reeducation efforts in Germany after WW2).
I may add that my mother worked for "Public Safety" after 1945 !
I noticed your detail photo did not exactly look like the roof of a 'beetle' (i had 3) but then i never had such an early one with the small ('Brezel') rear window.

I have nothing ready, would it be ok if Aktung took the next one? :salute:

[Eichhörnchen]

I did consider just answering "No" but then thought that might just look mean later on :haha: and I did wonder why you said 'roof' when there are no such pronounced swage lines along the roof of a beetle (I used to own one too)

Good going :up:

[Aktungbby]

I have nothing ready, would it be ok if Aktung took the next one? What is this? https://subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12704

[mapuc]

Russian Bomberplane ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

Well it is russian and i 'spoze russians can put a bomb on anything; it is referred to as a 'bomber' in one of its variations now that U mention it. Another variant carried nuclear waepons.:hmmm:

[Eichhörnchen]

rotor blades?

[Jimbuna]

Tupolev Tu-95?

[Aktungbby]

rotor blades?

Tupolev Tu-95?nope 2 the bothayaz!

[Jimbuna]

Post WWII?

[Aktungbby]

yup

[Jimbuna]

Propeller job?

[Aktungbby]

yup

[Jimbuna]

Tupolev Tu-4?

[Aktungbby]

nope, slightly later era; not "reverse engineered"; and not straight-winged...

[Cyborg322]

Guys I'm so sorry I was away and missed continuation of the competition. My wife had an operation at the hospital and after she came back home there was some complications a couple of days later and she had to be rushed back.

I completely forgot about the competition its been chaotic. She was in a lot of pain bleeding I had to drop everything and live at the hospital practically

3 years waiting and the op was unsuccessful it had to be partly reversed and needs to be done again. its affected her mentally almost worse than physically

She is back home now and things are getting better. I'm not able to do much on Subsim just yet its too hard to focus on anything but hope to be back as soon as pos

Sorry Again

Simon

[Catfish]

Simon, thanks for coming back. Most important is your wife gets better.

[Jimbuna]

Guys I'm so sorry I was away and missed continuation of the competition. My wife had an operation at the hospital and after she came back home there was some complications a couple of days later and she had to be rushed back.

I completely forgot about the competition its been chaotic. She was in a lot of pain bleeding I had to drop everything and live at the hospital practically

3 years waiting and the op was unsuccessful it had to be partly reversed and needs to be done again. its affected her mentally almost worse than physically

She is back home now and things are getting better. I'm not able to do much on Subsim just yet its too hard to focus on anything but hope to be back as soon as pos

Sorry Again

Simon

Wishing your wife a speedy recovery.

[Jimbuna]

Russia's Tu-95 “Bear” Is The Only Propeller-Powered Strategic Bomber Still Flying.

Is it still in service?

[Catfish]

thought of it but the nose has the wrong place i think :hmmm:

ok i have no idea :oops:

[Aktungbby]

Russia's Tu-95 “Bear” Is The Only Propeller-Powered Strategic Bomber Still Flying.

Is it still in service? nope...not a Tu anything and only two turbo-prop engines; small numbers are still in service reportedly patrolling the Crimean coast...

[Jimbuna]

Ilyushin Il-114?

[Exocet25fr]

Beriev Be-12 Tchaika ?

[Aktungbby]

Exocet25fr takes it!:salute: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12704 https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12706 Well it is russian and i 'spoze russians can put a bomb on anything; it is referred to as a 'bomber' in one of its variations now that U mention it. Another variant carried nuclear waepons. After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, some aircraft were converted to water bombers :O:for the suppression of forest fires. Be-12SK
One aircraft converted in 1961 for use in SK-1 nuclear depth charge tests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beriev_Be-12

[Jimbuna]

Okay, to prevent a recurrence of recent times I'm putting in a new rule....if the person who guesses correctly doesn't put up another 'puzzle' before 24 hours have lapsed after having guessed correctly, the person who gave the previous 'puzzle' (in this instance it would be Aktung) must nominate someone to start a new 'puzzle'.

This has already happened a few times so I expect we can all be comfortable with the above.

Soooo till approx 8pm GMT tonight.

[Exocet25fr]

Ok!, go Aktungbby :03:

[Jimbuna]

Long overdue so here we go again...

What is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/85LByX66/rrrrrtgtg.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Catfish]

hmm, squirrel?

[Aktungbby]

a rodent?

[Jimbuna]

Rarer than a squirrel.

[mapuc]

Are we perhaps in the Australia area ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

a rodent?

Sorry but I didn't notice your post when responding to Kai but no, not a rodent.

CLUE: A mammal.

[Jimbuna]

Are we perhaps in the Australia area ?

Markus

Not Australia.

[Exocet25fr]

Chinese Ili Pika ?

[Jimbuna]

That's the one.

https://i.postimg.cc/g04WThwc/fghjkl.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Catfish]

Does it really exist.. a mixture of an easter bunny and a teddy bear :)

[Jimbuna]

Does it really exist.. a mixture of an easter bunny and a teddy bear :)

Would look good on a dinner plate :)

[Aktungbby]

that could give U a serious case of "pika syndrome"!?:O:

[Catfish]

Would look good on a dinner plate :)
I wonder how it can be still alive, in China :hmmm:
:Kaleun_Wink:

[Jimbuna]

I wonder how it can be still alive, in China :hmmm:
:Kaleun_Wink:

Pika are small, mountain-dwelling mammal found in North America and Asia. There are 29 species in total, and while the North American and most of the Asia pika have healthy, stable populations, the Chinese Ili pika was thought extinct until photographed in 2014 by Weidong Li.

Only discovered in China’s Tianshan mountain range in 1983, Ila pika live on bare, sloping rocks at high elevations where they subsist on grass. Since discovery, their numbers have declined by over 70%, and stand at around 1,000 today. Their demise is due to increasing temperatures driven by climate change which forces them to retreat up to the mountain tops.

[Catfish]

Thanks Jim :salute:

[Jimbuna]

@Kai

Would you like to start a new puzzle?

IMPORTANT: Anyone not prepared to start a new puzzle if they answer correctly...please don't bother posting.

TIA

[Aktungbby]

Meanwhile; What's this gizmo? https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12713 Big hint: should be right up kai's alley...sodaspeke:o

[Jimbuna]

Arm of a chair?

[Aktungbby]

nope; not furniture

[Catfish]

Part of a car?

p.s. thanks Jim, did not see it in time :03:

[Aktungbby]

not part of a car...much earlier

[Catfish]

Part of some mobile thing?

[Aktungbby]

it is easily transported..along with other small items.

[Eichhörnchen]

Does this part of the photo show a lever?

[Jimbuna]

Chariot?

[Aktungbby]

Does this part of the photo show a lever?nope but it is a lever of sorts

Chariot?nope; but you're in the right era

[Jimbuna]

In the BC era?

[Eichhörnchen]

From ancient Egypt?

[Aktungbby]

it was probably used there; but it is is not an Egyptian cultural item per se.

[Jimbuna]

Used for irrigation purposes?

[Catfish]

A paddle/oar ?

[Aktungbby]

Used for irrigation purposes?nope

A paddle/oar ?well there is a 'stroking' motion involved in its use. Not used in conjunction with any vessel however.

[Eichhörnchen]

Used by slaves in a wealthy household?

[Jimbuna]

Something used to instill punihment?

[Aktungbby]

Used by slaves in a wealthy household?Probably...for those "hard to reach" areas...after a strenuous session in the frigidarium, or a gymnasium.

Something used to instill punihment?it could be used in a defensive capacity when caught starkers or sans toga

[Catfish]

Some kind of flogger or whip, like used in finish sauna (hot steam bath) today?
This would have been a caldarium for heat and a frigidarium to cool, in roman times

[Jimbuna]

Paddle board?

[Aktungbby]

Some kind of flogger or whip, like used in finish sauna (hot steam bath) today?
This would have been a caldarium for heat and a frigidarium to cool, in roman times your on the right track...generally used after a spa or gymnasium session...

Paddle board?nope

[Jimbuna]

A back scratcher?

[Aktungbby]

You R almost right on it!! now bring home the bacon....grease and all!:up:

[Jimbuna]

A cats claw shaped scratcher?

[Aktungbby]

nope more a common item for the athletically inclined...in the arena or out

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/VFUXF0o.jpg A strigil

[Aktungbby]

TAA DAA! only an oily fellow like yourself would get it!:O: I really thought catfish would get it: especially when he mentioned saunas and Roman baths. A Roman aged bronze one: no doubt used in Egypt by Antony: after finishing his arduous Cleothenics...sans toga!!?? Over to U! @ Jimbuna: I've no doubt there was a little back scratchin' 'twixt those two miscreants! :salute: :O: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rmoAAOSwFwNeE6kB/s-l500.jpg

[Eichhörnchen]

^ No backscratching - I don't understand how he didn't get there either :haha:

https://i.imgur.com/Va6Wv84.jpg And so what is this?

[Aktungbby]

a flag?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ No not a flag

[Catfish]

Made of metal?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Not made of metal

https://i.imgur.com/yEdGUJR.jpg

[Catfish]

Hmm, paper?

[Jimbuna]

Anything to do with Gestalt Principles?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Catfish: no this thing is not made of paper

@ Jim: nothing as exotic or cerebral as that

[Jimbuna]

Wooden?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope, not wooden

[Jimbuna]

Plastic?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Not that either - I'll take 2 or 3 more guesses then give a clue

[Jimbuna]

Canvas?

[Eichhörnchen]

Not canvas

[Jimbuna]

From artwork?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nothing to do with art

First clue is that my object is the black part of the picture; the white part is just a background it was photographed against... but maybe you'd guessed that :03:

[Jimbuna]

A superhero?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope, not Batman - nor any other Marvel type superhero. Good guess!

[Jimbuna]

From inside your place of abode?

[Eichhörnchen]

No, although my brother possesses one (not this one)

[Jimbuna]

Ornament?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Your hardly generous with the clues.

[Eichhörnchen]

They're not being very generous with the guesses :haha:

Okay, it is a prestigious emblem/mark of something

[Aktungbby]

from a coat of arms?

[Jimbuna]

Your families coat of arms?

[Eichhörnchen]

^
^
No to both

[Jimbuna]

I'll await the next clue...that picture could be anything.

[Aktungbby]

..that picture could be anything.https://i.imgur.com/yEdGUJR.jpg...another fine point:O: is this attached to something else or a stand-alone item?

[Jimbuna]

Prolly turn out to be some speech bubble :)

[Aktungbby]

is 'prolly" Geordi speke?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Aktung :haha: "prolly" is just short slang for "probably"

And yes, this was normally attached to something but has often been removed for display - so therein lies another clue :)

[Aktungbby]

is it bunting of some sort?

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/laydjZo.jpg No it's not bunting

[Aktungbby]

Well there's bunting...and then there's real buntinghttps://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-TG165_32cpy_M_20170502104144.jpg:arrgh!: ie: i'm clueless:wah:

[Eichhörnchen]

You'll never have seen one of these on the field in a baseball stadium

[Aktungbby]

is it a ceremonial item?

[Eichhörnchen]

If it were still in use today then yes... probably exclusively. But when it was in use it was for both ceremonial and ordinary occasions

[Aktungbby]

from the medieval era?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Jimbuna]

This century?

[Catfish]

Something to do with religion?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim: this form dates from the early 1800s but its history stretches back into the 17th century

@ Catfish: nothing to do with religion

[Aktungbby]

a British item?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Yes indeed

[Eichhörnchen]

Okay okay. Here's another one not photographed against a white background - but instead seen in its proper place

https://i.imgur.com/aYTCeWW.jpg

[Aktungbby]

of naval significance?

[Catfish]

A medal?

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/SzExs8I.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5U8o6wl.jpg


Not naval and not a medal

[Jimbuna]

A flower?

[Eichhörnchen]

Not a flower

[Jimbuna]

An emblem?

[Eichhörnchen]

It is an emblem

[Jimbuna]

Civilian?

[Eichhörnchen]

No - military

[Aktungbby]

a memorial garter of sorts?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

British Army?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes, British Army

[Jimbuna]

Bravery award?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Long service?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Some form of achievement?

[Aktungbby]

A mourning item?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim: no

@ Aktung: very good reasoning, but no


https://i.imgur.com/VB3cetW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zR9J2AI.jpg


Here's another clue:

https://i.imgur.com/dzl9Qw8.jpg


Edit: Again, photo 1 shows the thing photographed on a white background for illustration/display purposes - the other 2 pics present it in its normal place

[Jimbuna]

Belonging to a particular Regiment?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes, very importantly

[Jimbuna]

Lincolnshire Regiment?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Still in existence today?

[Eichhörnchen]

Amalgamated

[Jimbuna]

Royal Anglian?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Amalgamated after WWII?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes

[Jimbuna]

70's?

[Eichhörnchen]

more recently

[Jimbuna]

80's?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

https://i.imgur.com/LabF1GN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/mV0OhMi.jpg https://i.imgur.com/THjhzVl.jpg

[Jimbuna]

90's? :)

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

That means post 2000 then.

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes

[Aktungbby]

is it worn...or displayed?

[Jimbuna]

The Cheshire Regiment joining the Mercians?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Aktung: worn

@ Jim: no

[Aktungbby]

is it formally presented to the wearer?

[Eichhörnchen]

No - regulation issue and not worn all the time, i.e. not worn in combat in WW2 - a clue perhaps?

[Aktungbby]

from the differing hint photos: are there slightly differing styles of this?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes, officers' and other ranks' differed at (at least in earlier times) in both size and quality - although the one in photo 3 looks different only because it's old and battered - it would've originally looked tidy like the other two

How this item changed over time, plus who wore it and when, is almost a PhD study in itself

[Catfish]

Hm if those were awarded "post-2000" it is unlikely they were worn in "WW2 combat"?

edit ah ok, so this goes back to WW2 days but is still awarded today?

[Eichhörnchen]

Best re-read, Catfish - they weren't awarded and their wearing pre-dates WW2 by a VERY long time. This regiment wore these in combat in WWI but not WWII, according to my cursory researches, and although its wearing should have stopped when they were amalgamated I found at least one source online who says that some soldiers continue to wear it - although I can't understand how on earth they could now that their regiment has ceased to exist

[Jimbuna]

Scottish in origin?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ No


Maybe it's time for a re-cap

https://i.imgur.com/En6ylfc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NWlMU2l.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FCBskQO.jpg

It's an emblem worn by all ranks of a recently defunct British regiment, both in battle and for parade best (though not always in battle) so was a regulation item of uniform

[Jimbuna]

Infantry regiment?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes

[Jimbuna]

2nd Battalion the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Eichhörnchen]

CLUE: it might pay to ask some questions about what the item itself is

[Eisenwurst]

Is there a family connection ???

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes

[Jimbuna]

Any member of your family serve in this regiment?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes

[Jimbuna]

Post WWII era?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

A wild guess but was this worn by the regimental mascot?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope - all ranks but not all species :haha:

[Catfish]

Made of cloth?

[Aktungbby]

/\looks like cordura 2 me; I've been searching British non-Scottish unit emblems with that material...but to no avail....:oops:

[Eichhörnchen]

It's made of ribbon and I think that the officers' may have been satin at one time but that's of no importance here.

And - although I agreed that it's an emblem, it's an emblem of something in their history - but it's more than just an emblem since it forms a part of the uniform

[Aktungbby]

Royal Welch Fusiliers( formerly The 23rdRegiment of Foot)? https://www.rwfia.org/Images/rwf_flash.jpgThe Flash is a regimental distinction of the Royal Welch Fusiliers that is shared by no other regiment in the British Army. It dates back to the early 18th century when soldiers wore their hair in a braided queue which was held in a bag to avoid the grease soiling the back of the uniform coat.
The wearing of the queue was abolished by 1808, yet the Royal Welch Fusiliers ignored the order to remove the five black ribbons from the collar of their coats. As they were stationed in Nova Scotia at the time, there was little notice taken of their disobedience, but on returning to England in 1834, an inspecting General ordered the ribbons removed, and an appeal was made by the regiment to King William IV. In the same year the Royal Welch Fusiliers were granted the right to wear "The Flash" as a regimental distinction and have worn it ever since.

[Eichhörnchen]

Well done inded, Aktung!

https://i.imgur.com/OxEln4C.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/GotdNtK.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/RkvGmAR.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/FWd7thL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7iZI3ZT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sqL4Elg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TcaMPMz.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/mI1r7zH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OGZ5F9B.jpg This is an inexpertly trimmed photo of my dad during WW2 - you can just see the edge of the Flash

You're away!

(PS: you were lucky to get there by looking for an English regiment - the RWF were a Welsh regiment!)

[Jimbuna]

Nice one.

[Eichhörnchen]

Thanks - I would've hsd to reveal more eventually but I think this https://i.imgur.com/TalfBux.jpg would've blown the lid off it

[Aktungbby]

https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/T-7F_IhO_l1LzqMdv4Mryg/o.jpgWell done inded, Aktung!
You're away!

(PS: you were lucky to get there by looking for an English regiment - the RWF were a Welsh regiment!) Nonsense!:arrgh!: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2798228&postcount=29 'Twixt getting amalgamated, subsumed, reaffiliated and reformed into other British regiments; the hunt for the captain has been a good one! I'm just living up to billing in the Rhode's red coat thread...and Wiki doesn't differentiate as much 'twixt Brit and Welsh uniforms as it does Scots; which is where i spent most of my search till U said "black ribbon". When you answered "family member" I knew the pic you referred to; but the edge-view of the flash would have gone by me perception wise anyway....:hmmm: I'll have have something suitably insidious shortly.

[Aktungbby]

What unfortunate vessel is this?https://subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12733

[Eichhörnchen]

"Lechyd da!" - cheers! I don't mind 'Wiki' not knowing the difference between a Welshman and an Englishman but a Royal Welch Fusilier certainly would (note for others that this spelling is the archaic one for 'Welsh' that was retained for some reason). I still think you were lucky that they don't :haha:

[Catfish]

phew this was a nice one Glynn, and well done Aktung :Kaleun_Applaud:

I was on a path to some circular black cloth 'emblem', so Google withheld this from me :haha:

re Welshman there is one in the vicinity, he is quite convinced to be british but not english, just had a conversation. He was in the military before moving to Germany in 2020, should have asked HIM! lol

[Jimbuna]

What unfortunate vessel is this?https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=12733

SS Jeremiah O'Brien?

[Catfish]

^ Jim is right, certainly is the WWII Liberty Ship SS Jeremiah O'Brien, recently saved by firefighters :)

[Eichhörnchen]

Vinny got torpedoed :haha:

[Aktungbby]

I've posted this stunning remarkable foto numerous times incl. my :subsim: album; suggesting all modders could now have a clear concept of what a burning Liberty Ship should actually look like. :arrgh!: The USS Pampanito, also a WWII veteran, is also moored astern for a great day at Fisherman's Wharf. I visit them at every opportunity. I figured this would be an easy one. Over to Jimbuna!:salute:

[Jimbuna]

What is this precisely?

https://i.postimg.cc/hvBhb9HK/ggnggg.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Eichhörnchen]

The SS Andrea Doria

[Jimbuna]

Spot on.

Back over to you.

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/uH1kOuR.jpg What is this?

[Catfish]

nautical?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Aktungbby]

wood spike?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Aktungbby]

ivory?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope, not ivory either

[Jimbuna]

A writing implement?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Any connection with sports?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Military connection?

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/886EaII.jpg Yes

[Jimbuna]

A hat?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Weapon?

[Aktungbby]

marble?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - not intended as a weapon but could easily be used as such and may have been, for all I know

@ Aktung - no

[Jimbuna]

Entrenching tool?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Jimbuna]

Is it a hand tool of some sort?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes - of a sort