Who / What / Where Game Part 2

[Ostfriese]

Spaceship USS Enterprise after half a Millennium under water.

Seriously: Made of metal?

[Catfish]

A shell?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ @ Osty and Kai - I suppose I can answer both of these by saying that it's made of metal

[Catfish]

Artificial or produced?

Edit well i guess the Enterprise is supposed to be made of metal :D

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Produced

[Jimbuna]

I had my finger hovering there - just in case - ready to send "HNoMS Aeger" before Jim could jump in :haha: - and full credit where due anyway to Vinny for "Leading me to Blah Blah..."

I have something ready to go, so back shortly :Kaleun_Salute:

:haha:

[Jimbuna]

A shell?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Done that one :)

[Jimbuna]

:oops:

[Moonlight]

Does it have any electronics inside it?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Yes

[Jimbuna]

Any relationship with music?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Jimbuna]

Robotic?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/O3ETOHX.jpeg The other side of it

[Moonlight]

Is it used by the military?

[Eichhörnchen]

I don't believe it ever saw action but it certainly is military

[Aktungbby]

is it an antenna?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ No, not an antenna

[Ostfriese]

Is it from the ancient era (before 500 AD)?

[Jimbuna]

Radar?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Osty :-

^ @ Osty and Kai - I suppose I can answer both of these by saying that it's made of metal

So that's a no

[Aktungbby]

does it move?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes it's mobile

[Aktungbby]

does it go in water?

[Eichhörnchen]

It could enter the water up to a certain level - but it's not designed for water travel

[Aktungbby]

is it on wheels?

[Ostfriese]

@ Osty :-



So that's a no


I accept that, but I have to add that humanity knew metals in the ancient era.

[Jimbuna]

On tracks?

[Eichhörnchen]

I accept that, but I have to add that humanity knew metals in the ancient era.

Of course you are right. But it's 'modern' so no harm done

@ Jim 1: (sorry I missed this somehow) - I don't know whether it carried radar - probably not

@ Jim 2: Yes it's tracked

@ Aktung: It's tracked so yes, it is on wheels


https://i.imgur.com/0Y4dEky.jpeg

[Aktungbby]

...is it an electronic combat device with a 'dedicated crewman' to specifically man it?:D

[Eichhörnchen]

Good idea but no, mate. You're never going to get this one :)

[Ostfriese]

Is it remotely controlled?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Ostfriese]

Half-Track?

[Eichhörnchen]

Very much a NO (you'll see why later :O: )

https://i.imgur.com/IGCIjPC.jpeg

[Aktungbby]

is it in a military museum?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Sure is

[Aktungbby]

British?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[mapuc]

In a German Museum ?

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Jimbuna]

French?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Aktungbby]

in a British museum?

[Jimbuna]

American?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Vinny - you already asked me that (#9040) and - no

@ Jim - no

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/Iucmh0f.jpeg More of the puzzle

[Aktungbby]

does it shoot something?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Yes

[Catfish]

[...] You're never going to get this one :)

Some UGV?
Belay that.

"Objekt 279" tank from Kirov works? With Citroen-like hydropneumatics :D

[Ostfriese]

Good call!

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/mV9J75M.jpeg You bugger!

[Catfish]

[...]You bugger!
I take this as a umm compliment :O:

Ok what is this then?

https://i.postimg.cc/g0Qg5NY8/deetale.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Eichhörnchen]

Does it contain a lens/lenses?

(PS:- a "bugger" equates to a scoundrel, I suppose)

[Jimbuna]

A firearm?

[Catfish]

Does it contain a lens/lenses?
No.
(PS:- a "bugger" equates to a scoundrel, I suppose)
This is why I took it as a compliment :D

A firearm?
Yes.

[Aktungbby]

black powder?

[Eichhörnchen]

Is this a handle?

[Jimbuna]

Sniper rifle?

[Catfish]

black powder?
I don't now. I guess not.

Is this a handle?
No.

Sniper rifle?
No.

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it carried by one man?

[Jimbuna]

Is this the barrel?

[Ostfriese]

A pistol?

[Catfish]

Is it carried by one man?
Sure.

Is this the barrel?
Not sure, but from sketches I saw part of it may be the very short end of the barrel.

[Catfish]

Big hint: Jim asked whether it is a sniper rifle, which it is not :03:

[Ostfriese]

A pistol?




Ahem!

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/ZHrRgDJ.jpeg Welrod pistol

[Catfish]

Ahem!
Oh sh!t. Sorry. Yes a pistol.
I answered Jim's last question about the barrel but it took me ten minutes or so, I just did not see your question :oops:

https://i.imgur.com/ZHrRgDJ.jpeg Welrod pistol
Of course it is, well done. BSA Welrod pistol created for the SOE.

https://i.postimg.cc/PJLWtGT2/SOE-Welrod-pistol.jpg (https://postimg.cc/N2c94zyH)

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a21255/forgotten-weapons-the-welrod/

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welrod

Seems Ostfriese's question led you to the promised land, you bugger :O:

Over to you :salute:

[Eichhörnchen]

^ All you need to go with your rubber feet :haha: - and I hadn't seen Osty's post to be honest - it was your hint to Jim that put me on the trail

https://i.imgur.com/8uza3AW.jpeg How about this then?

[Ostfriese]

I don't even have an idea where to start on this one.
Is the brighter part made of wood?

[Eichhörnchen]

No, that's not wood

[Catfish]

Is this an older photo, or some painting? :hmmm:

[Eichhörnchen]

It seems to be a photo clipped from an old newspaper - that looks like printed text faintly showing through

[Jimbuna]

An official document?

[Aktungbby]

an airplane wing?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim: No

@ Aktung: No

[Ostfriese]

So, a photo in an old newspaper. Does it show water at the bottom?

[Jimbuna]

Fish and chip supper? :)

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Osty: So far so good, but no water in it

@ Jim: Definitely chip paper material

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/pyPXDLb.jpeg Here's more: much easier for you now :yep:

[Catfish]

Is the first "photo" depicting something like an.. exhaust, or "outlet" of any kind?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Yes

[Ostfriese]

Is the building in the second picture part of the background, or is it connected to the dark thingy in the first picture?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Osty - everything you see in the 2nd picture is connected to the dark thingy except the light area with traces of lettering on it, which is sky

https://i.imgur.com/c4LqN2h.jpeg Here's a third picture - I'm giving it away !

[Ostfriese]

So some sort of installation. Military?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Not an installation

[Ostfriese]

I‘m at a loss here.

[Eichhörnchen]

All kinds of things you guys haven't asked yet - and some you've wasted by including them with a second question in an attempt to get me to give up extra information, and I won't fall for that one :haha:

[Jimbuna]

The disassembled magazine of SKS-31?

[Aktungbby]

is it British?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim and Vinny - no to both

[Moonlight]

Feinwerkbau 300S .177 air rifle

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Jimbuna]

Is it a rifle?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope - I think I'm onto a winner here

[Jimbuna]

A weapon of some sort?

[Eichhörnchen]

It wasn't intended as a weapon

[Jimbuna]

But used as one?

[Eichhörnchen]

Some people seem to think it might have been, but this is disputed and I've not seen anything which supports this. That idea seems to belong in the drawer labelled Wishful Thinking

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/vgzcArk.jpeg Clue: This thing was designed to perform a specific task

[Jimbuna]

Looks like something out of Dune.

[Eichhörnchen]

No comment :haha:

[Jimbuna]

Is it from Dune? :)

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Uuuuh... nope

[mapuc]

Is this object placed on a ship ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Star wars? The sandcrawler deoes not have this exhaust though(?)

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Markus: Not on a ship

@ Kai: Nothing to do with Star Wars

[Catfish]

Is it real or some phantastic idea (like from some SciFi) ?

[Eichhörnchen]

No, it's for real

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/t8iOoBJ.jpeg It must be clear now :yep:

[Aktungbby]

is used for scientific purposes?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Ostfriese]

Scratch that, didn't see the "not a weapon" posting


Is it military (as you didn't answer that one previously)?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Jimbuna]

Progrev T. Gas Dynamic mine clearance. High pressure wave from a jet engine either blows the mines forward or detonates with the pressure wave.

[Ostfriese]

That seems to be it. I have never seen it before. Nice one.


It IS military, however.

[Jimbuna]

That seems to be it. I have never seen it before. Nice one.


It IS military, however.

It has actually been used in this thread before and by me if I remember correctly.

I also agree it is military but Glynn may have been suffering a brain fart when he posted :)

[Ostfriese]

It has actually been used in this thread before and by me if I remember correctly.


I think that was the Big Wind, the T-55 with 2 Mig-21 jets used to fight oil fires. But it is very similar.

[Jimbuna]

I think that was the Big Wind, the T-55 with 2 Mig-21 jets used to fight oil fires. But it is very similar.

Could well be right my friend....that does ring a distant bell :yep:

[Eichhörnchen]

So some sort of installation. Military?

@ Jim and Osty - no brain fart. Osty's post posed two questions:- "installation" and "military" (the first by implication). So I chose, under the rules, to answer the first because that gave away less information. I am still on the ball up here and not in need of social services just yet :har:

https://i.imgur.com/EwrnJp6.jpeg

Well done, Jim - Progrev-T mine clearance - I hadn't seen that you already used this in the past, so well remembered :yep:

PS: I don't know whether you deleted something from post #9115, Osty? I can only think that at post #9116 I was saying no to something that got deleted. If I'm wrong then I apologise, mate

[Aktungbby]

I think I'm the one that originally posted the jet fire-fighting one...:hmmm:

[Ostfriese]

I think I'm the one that posted the jet fire fighting one...:hmmm:


I think you were, and I think it was me who solved it :D

[Aktungbby]

I think you were, and I think it was me who solved it :D ..."it was I who solved it" is the correct Ingrish ya illiterate bugger!:yep::O::know:

[Ostfriese]

..."it was I who solved it" is the correct Ingrish ya illiterate bugger!:yep::O::know:


OK, if you say so. Now, let's check your knowledge of German. Is your German as good as my English? We'll see :D

[Aktungbby]

OK, if you say so. Now, let's check your knowledge of German. Is your German as good as my English? We'll see :D Alas, The only German I know is from watching my favorite '60's TV show ; Combat starring Vic Morrow & Rick Jason. And, one nursery rhyme from my Silesian great grandmother that has passed down to all the Konig/Dahl descendants over the last century...I've been known to shout 'schnell' to slow moving minions under my command at times though. :arrgh!:

[Eichhörnchen]

I think I'm the one that originally posted the jet fire-fighting one...:hmmm:

Ya illiterate bugger: this should read: "I think I'm the one who originally posted the jet fire-fighting one"

[Jimbuna]

I'll be back with something shortly.

[Ostfriese]

I'll be back with something shortly.


Until then we'll have some more discussions about the finer points of English grammar :D

[Aktungbby]

Ya illiterate bugger: this should read: "I think I'm the one who originally posted the jet fire-fighting one" Just out of curiosity I looked it up: These are results for which is correct grammar: "I'm the one that" or "I'm the one who" ?
Search instead for which is correct grammer: "I'm the one that" or "I'm the one who" ?

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Both "I'm the one that" and "I'm the one who" are grammatically correct, but "I'm the one who" is generally preferred, especially when referring to people, as "who" is specifically used for people. :Kaleun_Goofy:
Here's a more detailed explanation:
"Who" vs. "That":
"Who" is a relative pronoun used to refer to people, while "that" can be used for people, animals, groups, or things.
"I'm the one who":
This sentence is a more formal and precise way to express that you are the person being referred to.
"I'm the one that":
While grammatically correct, it might sound slightly less formal and less precise than using "who" when referring to people. :arrgh!::hmph::smug:

[Ostfriese]

I've been taught that the relative pronoun "that" can be used for people and things, but shouldn't be used if the person has already been named, as it can be impolite. "who" is for people and anmials that have a name (like pets), "which" is for things.

[Eichhörnchen]

Oh bloody hell - you are maybe not such an illiterate bugger as what I thought you was, Aktung

[Jimbuna]

Righteo, what and where is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/C1Lw0NBF/blob.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Eichhörnchen]

Is that a vertical wall?

[mapuc]

Is it a bunker ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Not a bunker Markus but not a world apart either.

[Ostfriese]

WW2 - era?

[Jimbuna]

Is that a vertical wall?

It sure is.

[Jimbuna]

WW2 - era?

Probably most famous for the part it played in that era.

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it in Poland?

[Jimbuna]

Afraid not but an almost giveaway clue is the fact I used to know a Polish gentleman who fought there.

[Ostfriese]

Bletchley Park?

[Jimbuna]

Bletchley Park?

Wasn't aware there was ever any fighting there :)

[Eichhörnchen]

Ukraine?

[Ostfriese]

Wasn't aware there was ever any fighting there :)


Depends on what you consider to be "fighting" :)

[Jimbuna]

Depends on what you consider to be "fighting" :)

True :)

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine?

Nope no Rusian involvement.

[Eichhörnchen]

A Slavic country?

[Jimbuna]

A European one.

[mapuc]

Italy ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Yes

[Ostfriese]

Monte Cassino monastery?

[Jimbuna]

Monte Cassino monastery?

Far too easy but very well done.

The guy I used to know (sadly long gone now) led a platoon in the final push that drove the Germans out.

R I P Wiktor Prague.

https://i.postimg.cc/0yn1wThd/The-ruined-monastery-at-Cassino-Italy-19-May-1944-NA15141.jpg (https://postimg.cc/zyyQmczV)

Over to you :salute:

[Ostfriese]

Something easy:


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1443&pictureid=13696


What exactly is this gun a part of?

[Jimbuna]

Warship?

[Ostfriese]

Warship?


Obviously, but which one?

[Eichhörnchen]

HMS Campbeltown?

[Ostfriese]

HMS Campbeltown?


Nope.

[Jimbuna]

A monitor?

[Ostfriese]

A monitor?


No, sorry.

[Jimbuna]

WW2 era?

[Ostfriese]

WW2 era?


Yes.

[Jimbuna]

8"?

[Ostfriese]

8"?
It's not an 8-inch-gun

[Jimbuna]

Smaller?

[Ostfriese]

Smaller?
Yes

[Eichhörnchen]

Was this warship with its 6 inch gun (:D) famous in its own right, or are we simply looking for a class?

[Ostfriese]

Was this warship with its 6 inch gun (:D) famous in its own right, or are we simply looking for a class?


Several information at once? I'll answer the first: it's not a 6-inch-gun, but quite close.

[mapuc]

I think it's an 5 inch gun.

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

:haha: It was worth a try - was it a famous ship then?

[Ostfriese]

I think it's an 5 inch gun.

Markus


6-inch are closer.

[Aktungbby]

I think it's an 5 inch gun.

Markus:o....H.M.S. Dick?:arrgh!:

[Ostfriese]

:o....H.M.S. Dick?:arrgh!:


Dream on :D

[Jimbuna]

4.7"?

[Ostfriese]

4.7"?


It's closer to 6" than to 5"

[Jimbuna]

Royal Navy?

[Ostfriese]

Royal Navy?


Not British.

[Eichhörnchen]

:haha: It was worth a try - was it a famous ship then?

You haven't responded to this yet, Osty

[Jimbuna]

American?

[Ostfriese]

You haven't responded to this yet, Osty


Sorry, this one escaped my attention :D


This is a little difficult to answer, because "famous" is relative. The ship in question is not as widely known as Bismarck, HMS Hood or USS Enterprise, so someone who never put much interest into the naval side of WW2 will not know it, but you don't need to study WW2 history for decades to come across the name, either, so I'd say that you folks in this thread should have heard or read about the ship.

[Ostfriese]

American?


Not American.

[Jimbuna]

European?

[Ostfriese]

European?


Yes.

[Jimbuna]

French?

[Ostfriese]

French?


Not French.

[Jimbuna]

Dutch? :)

[Ostfriese]

Dutch? :)


Yes.

[Jimbuna]

HNLMS De Ruyter?

[Ostfriese]

HNLMS De Ruyter?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Kruiser_Hr.Ms._De_Ruyter_%281936-1942%29%2C_de_toren_van_het_vlaggeschip_%282158_00 7574%29.jpg


Yes. Build in Europe, HNLMS De Ruyter was transferred to the Dutch East Indies before the outbreak of the war and spend her entire career in the Pacific. She was sunk in the second battle of the Java Sea in the wee hours of Feb 28th, 1942. Her wreck was found in 2002, but by 2016 her wreck had disappeared, very likely because of illegal scavenging.


It's over to Jim again :D

[Jimbuna]

I know what you meant now about the 5-6" guns, she was 5.9"

Back within the hour hopefully.

[Ostfriese]

I know what you meant now about the 5-6" guns, she was 5.9"


:D 5.9" is not 6" - but quite close :yeah:

[Jimbuna]

:D 5.9" is not 6" - but quite close :yeah:

Rgr that :)

[Jimbuna]

Okay then, what is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/t4k59Bk2/fffff.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it ceramic?

[Jimbuna]

Not ceramic and I had a sneaky suspicion when posting it would just up your street :03:

[Eichhörnchen]

A dollop of oil paint?

[Jimbuna]

No connection with paint.

[Eichhörnchen]

Does it taste sweet?

[Jimbuna]

Not edible to humans as far as I'm aware.

[Ostfriese]

Is it a part of a plant?

[Jimbuna]

Not plant based.

[Eichhörnchen]

Is this in connection with insect collecting?

[Jimbuna]

Not insects, more like babies perhaps.

[Ostfriese]

A toy?

[Jimbuna]

Not a toy but more a type of vehicle or container perhaps.

[Eichhörnchen]

Not insects, more like babies perhaps.

Baby Collecting? I've never heard of that but I'll go with it :har:

Is it a baby's high-chair?

[Ostfriese]

Must be the ugliest pram ever :D

[Jimbuna]

Baby Collecting? I've never heard of that but I'll go with it :har:

Is it a baby's high-chair?

Must be the ugliest pram ever :D

Babies/newborn or about to be born are onvolved.

ANOTHER CLUE: Not the human kind.

[Eichhörnchen]

a mammal?

[Jimbuna]

Not so far as I'm aware.

CLUE: You've probably found some on occasion.

[Eichhörnchen]

Are sea birds in the answer?

[Jimbuna]

No but the sea is.

[Aktungbby]

kelp?

[Jimbuna]

Not kelp but think of what could be carried inside,

[Eichhörnchen]

Is it a whale placenta? :o:doh:

[Jimbuna]

Almost there.

[Aktungbby]

ambergris?

[Jimbuna]

Nope :)

[Eichhörnchen]

Whale crap?

[Jimbuna]

Forget whales.

CLUE: Made of collagen protein strands.

[Aktungbby]

does it contain larvae?

[Eichhörnchen]

Is this from a fish?

[Jimbuna]

does it contain larvae?

Not larvae (the active immature form of an insect, especially one that differs greatly from the adult and forms the stage between egg and pupa, e.g. a caterpillar or grub).

[Jimbuna]

Is this from a fish?

Yes.

[Eichhörnchen]

A shark?

[Jimbuna]

Strong connection with some sharks as well as other species.

[Eichhörnchen]

'Mermaids Purse'?

[Jimbuna]

'Mermaids Purse'?

Bingo!

https://www.techeblog.com/you-wont-believe-this-strange-object-isnt-from-another-planet/

Over to you :salute:

[Eichhörnchen]

I'll be back later - got to go out. I have to admit I gave Moira a shot at this (she didn't see the picture, mind) telling her that this slimy stuff that looked like peanut butter had something to to do with baby sharks being born. She said straight away "mermaids purse" (she once picked one up on Hastings beach)

You don't want to go picking stuff up on our beaches this week though :haha:

I hope this wasn't cheating? :D

[Jimbuna]

Not cheating at all, I just wish my wife was intelligent enough to help me :)

Right now her mind is full of a potential move to another place of abode.

[Aktungbby]

/\...considering that "Mermaid's Purse" is a Freudian slip of sorts, Eich is one lucky..."desireable" ex-artist; :salute:....and you'll need to move fast!:oops::o

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - likewise - we're planning to sell up and move in with the monster-in-law. Our house is all upside down atm and it's all the missus talks about

[Jimbuna]

@ Jim - likewise - we're planning to sell up and move in with the monster-in-law. Our house is all upside down atm and it's all the missus talks about

In our case tis an offer to move into my lads first house right on the coast overlooking the mouth of the Tyne and the beach.

The downside being it is only two bedroomed but I'd still have a computer room.

[Aktungbby]

Our house is all upside down atm and it's all the missus talks aboutI'd imagine packing all of her 'latest horrors; will take alotta boxes!:huh::k_confused:

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Vinny - that got Athena laughing out loud :haha:

@ Jim - I envy you that - I read your mention of your plans elsewhere

https://i.imgur.com/cOYAxzW.jpeg What is this - you don't stand a chance this time

[Ostfriese]

I see two light blueish squares surrounded entirely by black. Is that the actual picture or an error message?

[Eichhörnchen]

This is part of the bigger picture :)

But don't worry - you know that I will always post further snippets of the picture so that it becomes easier and easier :)

[Ostfriese]

Is there a small, slightly brighter spot in the upper right corner, or is that a smudge/an artifact? It's not dust on my monitor, that's for sure.

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Very observant and significant, Osty. And if you look again you'll see another of these just visible at bottom right

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/gJQjKYS.jpeg Here's another clue

[Jimbuna]

A computer screen?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Ostfriese]

Something to do with video games? I'm getting Pacman vibes here :D

[Eichhörnchen]

Well forget them - it's not related to video games

[Eichhörnchen]

Wot - you guys need another clue already? Okay then:

https://i.imgur.com/78twsyf.jpeg This should help

[Ostfriese]

Is the picture zoomed in? Or does it show the thing in question more or less in its original size?

[Aktungbby]

does it use electricity?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Osty: this isn't actual size - the real thing is much bigger

@ Birthday Boy: no electricity involved

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/b53S84p.jpeg I'm giving it away now