Who / What / Where Game Part 2

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/Z4YgOUl.jpg Buster the rollerskating rooster

[Jimbuna]

Gotta be.

[Catfish]

https://i.imgur.com/Z4YgOUl.jpg Buster the rollerskating rooster
I am happy that T. Rex' phenotype went extinct. They would so hate us.

[Aktungbby]

Over to Eich!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/OZ8bbIO.jpg What is this? I had to enlarge it a little more than I usually would

https://i.imgur.com/7VL5Kni.jpg (non-enlarged)

[Jimbuna]

Air vent?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Jimbuna]

Static?

[Eichhörnchen]

Only when not in use

[Eichhörnchen]

Okay - I'm going to be very un-stingy with the clues this time :) and tell you straight off that it's a plane

[Catfish]

I guess you found this when looking for Jim's riddle :hmmm:

Made of aluminium?

[Jimbuna]

British?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Catfish - no

@ Jim - Made in the USA but this design idea was also applied to planes in Germany and elsewhere

https://i.imgur.com/su3KLZU.jpg I found a bigger clearer photo

[Jimbuna]

Jet?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ No not a jet

[Jimbuna]

Single prop?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Aktungbby]

Ford tri-motor?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ I was waiting for that but no - not the Ford Tri-motor, nor any other tri-motor

[Aktungbby]

Stout ST-1 twin engine?https://eaavintage.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/9115large.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Post WWII?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Aktung - no, not that

@ Jim - pre WW2

Clue: I'll make it a lot easier by saying that you don't need to tell me its name or that of its manufacturer - just the type of plane will do. Many others by rival makers soon sprang up, all incorporating these innovative 'corrugations', as they became known

[Jimbuna]

Electra?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ No - much older

[Jimbuna]

Pre WWI?

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/9k9qUgi.jpg @ Jim: yes - this particular one at least was made before WW1

[Catfish]

Surface radiator?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ No, but that was a good suggestion - as with the Schneider Trophy planes

[Catfish]

Made of metal?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes - mainly steel

[Eichhörnchen]

Clue: Not a single one of these ever flew :)

[Catfish]

a bicycle experimental plane?

[Eichhörnchen]

No not that kind of plane either - patented in 1869 this one, in New York

[Ostfriese]

"Plane" has different meanings, so I suggest that this is not a flying machine at all, but a tool for shaping wood.

They won't fly (unless you throw them), the modern form of a hand plane (the Stanley plane) was invented around that time, it was made mainly of steel and it was invented by an American (his name wasn't Stanley, though).

[Aktungbby]

https://www.datamp.org/images/8784-1.jpg

[Eichhörnchen]

Ostfriese gets the prize

https://i.imgur.com/7VHkOZA.jpg

It's an Elliot Starke bench plane, the great innovation being the corrugated bottom intended to reduce friction during use. I thought I'd better get this done sooner rather than later so as not to tick people off - but I reckon I could've gone on with this for days :yep:

[Ostfriese]

Yay!


Something easy:


https://s20.directupload.net/images/230328/xndj8ynm.jpg


What's this?

[Jimbuna]

Plastic?

[Ostfriese]

Plastic?


Indeed

[Jimbuna]

A toy?

[Ostfriese]

A toy?


Not by itself, but it is part of a toy.

[Jimbuna]

A toy weapon?

[Ostfriese]

A toy weapon?


^ No

[Jimbuna]

Vehicle?

[Ostfriese]

Vehicle?


It can be included in certain toy vehicles, but not necessarily so.

[Eichhörnchen]

One of those throw-away plastic items that locks a toy into the packaging?

[Ostfriese]

One of those throw-away plastic items that locks a toy into the packaging?


No, it's not just for throwing away.

[mapuc]

I can't remember the name of this baby toy.

I guess every baby had one of these or similar to the one shown.

It has different symbols like a cross, star, circle a.s.o.

And these has to fight into the right hole.

E.g the cross has to fight the hole with the shape of a cross.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

A storage box such as a case?

[Ostfriese]

Definitely not a baby toy.


It's not part of a storage box, either.

[Jimbuna]

I Pad?

[mapuc]

Used in industry ?

Markus

[Ostfriese]

I Pad?


No electronics involved.


@Markus: It's part of a toy. It's not used industrially.

[Aktungbby]

American made?

[Ostfriese]

American made?


^ No

[mapuc]

Is it one of these toys where you throw a plastic ring at so this ring fall on to it ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

1960's?

[Ostfriese]

Is it one of these toys where you throw a plastic ring at so this ring fall on to it ?

Markus


No.



1960's?


Well, the toy itself was invented earlier, but this specific part is far more modern.

[mapuc]

Is it a toy you would give your child ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

/\...or your wife! does it have batteries?:O:

[Ostfriese]

Is it a toy you would give your child ?

Markus


Definitely - if I had children.

[Ostfriese]

/\...or your wife! does it have batteries?:O:


No electronics are involved.

[mapuc]

What I need now is the age range.

Not suitable for babies I understand.

Is it suitable for 5-8 years old children ?

Markus

[Ostfriese]

What I need now is the age range.

Not suitable for babies I understand.

Is it suitable for 5-8 years old children ?

Markus


Yes, it is

[mapuc]

Is it one of these seasons toy ?

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

Is the colour important or could it be any colour?

[Ostfriese]

Is it one of these seasons toy ?
Markus


It's not connected to any of the seasons, it's usually used indoors.



Is the colour important or could it be any colour?


The colour isn't important for its function, and it has been produced in other colours, although it usually is orange.

[Jimbuna]

A kids novelty drinks bottle?

[Ostfriese]

A kids novelty drinks bottle?


No. There's very little novel about this specific item. Most people who are into this sort of toy actually have several of them.

[Jimbuna]

Building bricks?

[Ostfriese]

Building bricks?


Yep, that's the toy. But what's the thing in the picture?

[Jimbuna]

A base piece?

Oh and btw that reminds me the next puzzle I put up, if it's a golf ball for example I'll be saying "Correct but how many dimples does it have" ? :smug:

[Ostfriese]

A base piece?


^ No


And in the world of building bricks this thing has a very specific, unique function.

[Aktungbby]

is it a hinge?

[Ostfriese]

is it a hinge?


No.


Clue: It's a part of a toy, but it's actually not even used while playing with the toy. It's used most commonly afterwards and occasionally before.


https://s20.directupload.net/images/230329/6nhtjb5a.jpg


A slightly larger picture.

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/UK0KGDe.jpg LEGO brick separator

Funnily enough I borrowed one of these from my son a couple of days ago; I wanted something I could use for scraping paint off some plastic toy soldiers - so there's yet another use for it!

[Ostfriese]

That's the one, over to Eichhörnchen. :salute:

[Eichhörnchen]

^ I don't know why I didn't guess that sooner, given I'd just been using one :timeout:

https://i.imgur.com/Ho3mH9I.jpg What's this?

[Ostfriese]

Tankette?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Did you really think it was going to be that easy? :haha:

[mapuc]

Something tell me we had a similar riddle some month ago.

Then it was, if I remember correctly, a tractor with these tracks who was in an angle of 45 degrees.

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope - not that

[Ostfriese]

^ Did you really think it was going to be that easy? :haha:


Yes :03:

[Jimbuna]

WWI era?

[Eichhörnchen]

Post WW1

[Jimbuna]

Pre WWII?

[Aktungbby]

French?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - yes

@ Aktung - yes

[Jimbuna]

Used on a farm?

[Eichhörnchen]

It was intended for off road use of all kinds - farm or military - but doesn't appear to have got past the prototype stage

[Jimbuna]

Looks like one of my earlier cars :)

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/9ccWnCp.jpg It's probably https://i.imgur.com/ec65Pxd.jpg a bit older than that

[mapuc]

Citroën ?

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Catfish]

Hotchkiss?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Catfish]

Panhard?
Was it even a company?

[Eichhörnchen]

Not Panhard

[Jimbuna]

HORNSBY TRACTOR?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

Clue (for Kai in particular): this wasn't a big company's design

[Jimbuna]

The Automitrailleuse Renault UE?

[Aktungbby]

^ :hmmm: treads don't match??

[Eichhörnchen]

^ It's not a Renault machine anyway

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/1YPbhp5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4k4IOLr.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GFzCfVn.jpg The back end

[Jimbuna]

Designed by Alphonse Kégresse?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Non

https://i.imgur.com/sK1GgnI.jpg This clipping has two clues in it, one being a glimpse of part of the name

[Aktungbby]

was it a tank before conversion to agriculture?

[Catfish]

Are the tracks made of rubber?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Aktung - no

@ Catfish - it seems so (not all-metal)

[Catfish]

And the wheel even seems to be of wood :hmmm:
re the Name: Leclerc?

@Eichhörnchen Oh you !"§$%&/!! :haha: :rotfl2:
I think I found it :har:

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/P6nqgNz.jpg :har: Look - there's even a photo for you of the guy who invented it

[Catfish]

Doctor Livingstone M. Lehaitre i suppose? :Kaleun_Wink:

[Ostfriese]

With that last hint from Catfish it was easy to google the solution. Nice one, Catfish, and what a weird thing you dug out there, Eichhörnchen.

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/wqeKlNM.jpg

Yes - I think you may be right


https://i.imgur.com/Y1qnvH3.jpg

[Catfish]

@Eichhörnchen How did you possibly found this? :haha:
I cannot remember how i found it, stumbled about it just by accident. I was looking for an interwar french tractor but nothing showed up :doh:
After search and looking at interwar french vehicles of all kinds (and what queer and quirky .. things I had to stare at), I now know my Xantia is not even the worst french contraption (thank you very much for this enlightenment).
:k_confused:

[Eichhörnchen]

^ I can't remember where or how - I've had it saved up for a while so I could slap you up with the mud house then drive you insane with the plane

https://i.imgur.com/Aa8qK4h.jpg I never heard of LeHaitre either :)

[Catfish]

Maybe not quite as difficult :hmmm:

What is that
https://i.imgur.com/3RIqIQkm.jpg

[mapuc]

Wall of death motorcycle, Came into my mind.

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

Is this thing to be harnessed to a horse?

[Jimbuna]

A ship?

[Catfish]

Wall of death motorcycle, Came into my mind.
Markus
Not connected to "wall of death".
Is this thing to be harnessed to a horse?
It comes from this idea, but not here.
A ship?
Not a ship.

[Jimbuna]

A carriage?

[Eichhörnchen]

A rickshaw?

[Catfish]

A carriage?
Yes
A rickshaw?
Not so far east, much closer.

As Jim wrote, a carriage, or coach. Could also be drawn by horses of course.

[Jimbuna]

Used in the UK?

[mapuc]

Is it a Diligence ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Used in the UK?
No.
Is it a Diligence ?
Markus
No, not related to postal affairs (afaik)

[mapuc]

No.

No, not related to postal affairs (afaik)

I was thinking those who toke passangers

Markus

[Catfish]

edit
A rickshaw?
You would not call it that since it is of western origin, but it is said to have travelled far, and fast.
In this case it was indeed pulled by one extraordinary man :03:

[Catfish]

I was thinking those who toke passangers
Markus
Yes, this carriage or coach transports one or more passengers, but not a diligence

[mapuc]

Are we into old mythology

Markus

[Catfish]

Not exactly mythology but invented history.

[Catfish]

Hint:
During Roman Empire times.

[Jimbuna]

A chariot?

[Eichhörnchen]

Four wheels?

[Catfish]

A chariot?
Could also call it a chariot but there is a bench to sit on, so not for war or so i think
Four wheels?
No :O:

okok two

[Aktungbby]

a quadriga or a biga?

[Catfish]

^ by the form of the drawbar it would be neither, only one horse. Or three maybe, don't now if possible with this double towing bar.
Anyway designed for one pulling creature (could also be a horse, oxen or whatever). But as written before this one is being pulled by one extraordinary man.
Another hint: It is not a roman design or build, just being used during this time. As said before an invented carriage.

[mapuc]

This extraordinary man, could this be Herkules ?

Markus

[Catfish]

^ No. Remember we are not in mythology :03:
But the man pulling what we/you look for has superhuman powers.

Since people in the US maybe not heard much of this, big hint:
1. He is not a "superhero" like from Marvel or such, strictly european
2. As a child he accidentally fell into a liquid that made him that strong.

[mapuc]

^ No. Remember we are not in mythology :03:
But the man pulling what we/you look for has superhuman powers.

Since people in the US maybe not heard much of this, big hint:
1. He is not a "superhero" like from Marvel or such, strictly european
2. As a child he accidentally fell into a liquid that made him that strong.

Oh of course Obelix(Have every Asterix albums)

Markus

[Catfish]

^ Yes!
Now to this .. chariot. Even built by a car company :)

[mapuc]

^ Yes!
Now to this .. chariot. Even built by a car company :)

Citroën ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Citroën ?
Markus
You earned it, but please specify the type :)

[Jimbuna]

Based on the 2CV?

https://i.postimg.cc/sDBTBPmq/OIP.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Xg6LBeqg4

[mapuc]

You earned it, but please specify the type :)

Citroën 2CV chariot ?

Not what you asked for I guess

Markus

[Catfish]

^ ^ hm no one specified the type, @Jim I think Markus deserves the win even if he did not exactly say it - you agree?

edit:
Citroën 2CV chariot ?
Markus
Yes, that is exactly it!
"With wheels made of shields, a boar gut suspensions, and firefly lights, this chariot features all the finest luxury from the year 50 BCE"
:O:

Citroën creates a concept carriage for Asterix and Obelix based on the legendary 2CV model
(https://aglomerado.digital/en/citroen-creates-a-concept-carriage-for-asterix-and-obelix-based-on-the-legendary-model-2cv/)

Citroën Produces Chariot Inspired By The 2CV For New Asterix & Obelix Film (https://www.carscoops.com/2022/12/citroen-produces-chariot-inspired-by-the-2cv-for-latest-asterix-obelix-film/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0VrAGdjslw


Over to Markus (?)

[Jimbuna]

If Markus wishes it.

[Catfish]

If Markus wishes it.
:up: :salute:

[mapuc]

What is this

https://i.imgur.com/U29pgLpm.jpg

Markus

[Jimbuna]

A wiper blade?

[mapuc]

A wiper blade?

Sorry no

Forgot to add some info in my first post.

Country and type

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Foes it fly?

[mapuc]

Foes it fly?

It certainly does

Markus

[Jimbuna]

B-2 Spirit?

[mapuc]

No It's not a bomberplane
(Even thou it can be used as such)

Markus

[Jimbuna]

A UAV?

[mapuc]

No this controlled by a human

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

F-16?

[Jimbuna]

American?

[mapuc]

No to both

Markus

[Jimbuna]

British?

[mapuc]

No not British

Hint It's European

Markus

[Aktungbby]

french?

[Jimbuna]

German Typhoon?

[mapuc]

No nor French or Typhoon

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Single crew?

[mapuc]

Yes

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Single engine?

[mapuc]

Yes

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Saab JAS 39 Gripen?

[mapuc]

That's the one

https://i.imgur.com/0DzchqPm.jpg

Over to You :salute:

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Should have something in an hour or so.

[Jimbuna]

What is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/sXJ2Mtx3/jyythgg.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Ostfriese]

Interior of a tank / tank turret?

[Catfish]

Looks like a part of some modern gun :hmmm:
Royal navy?

[mapuc]

Interior of the Challenger 2 tank ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Afraid not.

[Catfish]

So not part of a gun..
British?

[Jimbuna]

So not part of a gun..
British?

Not British.

[mapuc]

German ?

Markus

[Catfish]

American?

[Jimbuna]

German ?

Markus

Nope

[Jimbuna]

American?

Affirmative

[Eichhörnchen]

Does it have tracks?

[Jimbuna]

Does it have tracks?

No tracks.

[Aktungbby]

still in use?

[Jimbuna]

still in use?

Yes.

[Eichhörnchen]

Armoured Personnel Carrier?

[Jimbuna]

Armoured Personnel Carrier?

Good question but it is not designated as such.

[Eichhörnchen]

LAV-25 recon vehicle?

[Jimbuna]

Close :)

[Eichhörnchen]

Cadillac Gauge Commando?

[Jimbuna]

Cadillac Gauge Commando?

Nope :)

CLUE: Used by numerous countries and seen action in different wars.

[Eichhörnchen]

Has a rotating turret?

[Jimbuna]

Has a rotating turret?

Some versions but not all.

[mapuc]

Taking a wild guess

M2 Bradley

Markus

[Aktungbby]

six wheels?

[Jimbuna]

Taking a wild guess

M2 Bradley

Markus

A Bradley has tracks.

[Jimbuna]

six wheels?

There are six-wheeled versions out there but the majority aren't.

[Catfish]

Stryker?

[Jimbuna]

Stryker?

No, the Canadians never used my vehicle but about a dozen have.

[Eichhörnchen]

General Motors LAV?

[Jimbuna]

General Motors LAV?

No Canadian connection.

CLUE: More than one Gulf State uses them.

[Aktungbby]

eight wheeled?

[Jimbuna]

Not eight.

See#3700

CLUE: These are more numerous 9n the US Army than the Abrams.

[Catfish]

An AMRAP vehicle?

[Jimbuna]

An AMRAP vehicle?

This has gone on long enough so I'm giving it to you Kai.

It is an MRAP (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) Oshkosh M-ATV

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshkosh_M-ATV

https://i.postimg.cc/G3MLSwW0/M-ATV-AUSA.jpg (https://postimg.cc/PNwnPcfK)

Over to you my friend :salute:

[Catfish]

Oh no it's the rear part ..
There are a lot of them Amraps though i had picked the Oshkosh indeed without ever finding this part :haha:
Have to find something ..

edit: ok here it is

https://i.imgur.com/xQiNgaSl.jpg

[Jimbuna]

An aeroplane? :)

[mapuc]

A Russian Sub ?

Markus

[Catfish]

An aeroplane? :)
Not exactly :03: It can fly and hover..

A Russian Sub ?
Markus
Not a sub.

[mapuc]

A type of Gyrocopter ?

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

Is that a contra-rotating prop?

[Jimbuna]

Osprey?

[Catfish]

A type of Gyrocopter ?
Markus
No. Not a Gyro...
Is that a contra-rotating prop?
umm.. not if you mean the prop you see

edit: i am not sure but i guess not
Hint: it has two counter-rotating rotors.

Osprey?
Not an Osprey

[Aktungbby]

the California-built 12 propeller Archer "Maker" electric air taxi?

[Catfish]

^ No..

[Jimbuna]

Bell Textron V-280 Valor?

[Catfish]

^ not the Valor, but there is a connection..

Hint: the counter-rotating rotors are vertically stacked/one axis. So not like the Valor or Osprey

[Jimbuna]

American?

[Jimbuna]

That's the one :yep:

[Eichhörnchen]

Defiant helicopter?

(^ Pardon my deletion, Jim - but I see you already mentioned the V-280 Valor)

[Jimbuna]

Not a problem mate, I forgot to add the laughing smiley.

[Catfish]

Defiant helicopter?
(^ Pardon my deletion, Jim - but I see you already mentioned the V-280 Valor)
That's the one! SB-1 Defiant Compound Helicopter

https://i.imgur.com/hltffCtl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XtMpBIvl.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB_vPBRaHpE

"The Sikorsky–Boeing SB-1 Defiant (stylized as "SB>1"; company designation S-100) is the Sikorsky Aircraft and Boeing entry for the United States Army's Future Long-Range Assault Aircraft program to replace the Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk. It is a compound helicopter with rigid coaxial rotors, powered by two Honeywell T55 turboshaft engines; it first flew on 21 March 2019.

But then the US Army selected the rival Bell V-280 Valor as the winner of the Future Long-Range Assault Aircraft program."

Over to Eichhörnchen! :salute:

[mapuc]

My knowledge on aerodynamics is very small.

Maybe one of you could enlighten me what purpose the propeller on the back has ?

Markus

[Catfish]

^ to make it faster.
With two rotors you do not need a correctional "lateral" propeller to keep the helicopter from turning, so they were free to add one to push the 'copter forward faster (apart from only using the tilt of the rotors for speed).
I do not quite understand why they did not use jets, but i guess it was about quick maintenance in the field, and spare costs.

Still the "Valor" won, and i think because of higher speed and range -

The "Valor" does have some disadvantages though, it needs more place to land when the Black Hawk and the Defiant were able to land on the spot even in forests, their rotors being capable of cutting branches up to 4 inches.

[Aktungbby]

their rotors being capable of cutting branches up to 4 inches.god help 'em if it's a 5" branch!? I saw the picture but thought Sikorski was a Russian manufacturer and missed it .:shucks:

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Never seen that flying machine before

https://i.imgur.com/eCuaKSe.jpg Okay, what's this?

[Jimbuna]

Ornament?

[Eichhörnchen]

It can be described as such

[Jimbuna]

Metal?

[Eichhörnchen]

The important bit is yes, but sitting on a marble base

[Aktungbby]

one of Moira's "horrors"?:D

[Eichhörnchen]

No - and she just laughed at that (in the kitchen making soda bread)

[Jimbuna]

A trophy?

[Aktungbby]

(in the kitchen making soda bread)

...if that ain't loafin' around, I don't know what is!:arrgh!:

[Aktungbby]

a tabletop sized item.

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - yes

@ Aktung - no

[mapuc]

I remember we had an ashtray where the bottom was made of Marmor and the tray was made of bronze or similar-When they had cleaned it, it shined like it was gold.

Markus

[Aktungbby]

racing trophy?

[Jimbuna]

Your shooting trophy?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Aktung - yes

@ Jim - so no to that

[Aktungbby]

british?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[Jimbuna]

American?

[Ostfriese]

Made of tin?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Jim - no

@ Osty - no also

[mapuc]

Is it made of brass ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Copper?