Who / What / Where Game Part 2

[Aktungbby]

military?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[Aktungbby]

british?

[Eichhörnchen]

Nope

[mapuc]

Is it a one-man airplane ?

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Yes, a one man plane

[mapuc]

European ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

monoplane?

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Markus - yes

@ Aktung - debatable; an unusual configuration and more I cannot say without giving the game away

[Aktungbby]

1950's?

[Eichhörnchen]

No - earlier

[Aktungbby]

1930's?

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes, exactly

[Aktungbby]

french?

[Eichhörnchen]

Oui!

[Jeff-Groves]

Charpentier C1?

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Nope

[mapuc]

Was this aeroplane famous ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

C'est le The Pou-de Ciel ?:|\\https://hushkit.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/hmsml.jpg?w=640

[Catfish]

I guess Aktung has it :) (?)

[Eichhörnchen]

Mais oui! The Mignet HM14 Flying Flea!

https://i.imgur.com/evms5lb.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HJorqmo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Po40cmp.jpg Here is a 1:72 scale vacuform kit I built in the 1980s

Over to Vinny

[Aktungbby]

What is this?https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=13303

[Ostfriese]

A tank's roadwheel?

[Aktungbby]

yes

[Ostfriese]

Pre-WWII?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Ostfriese]

French?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Eichhörnchen]

Italian job?

[Aktungbby]

Nope and it has an ä in it's name

[Ostfriese]

Nope and it has an ä in it's name


The only one that quickly comes to mind is the Panzerjäger, but that one was built on the Panzer I chassis, and I'd say the wheel in the picture doesn't even look closely to that.
Edit: Brummbär also has an ä, but they were built on the Panzer IV chassis, and it doesn't look like that one either.

[Aktungbby]

well you're certainly doing yer homework. It has a panzer turret. Now study 'big bang theory'...:hmmm:

[Catfish]

Not the 'Mäuschen' :hmmm:
Was there even built one? The only one I know that was really built was called Maus, so without an "Ä". Even there only was a field test version without gun..

[Aktungbby]

This had two guns; here's another view: https://subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=13305

[Ostfriese]

Panzerspähwagen Luchs?

[Aktungbby]

nope that's an offensive fighting tank; my puzzle is a single pupose vehicle with defensive purposes...seriously related to 'big bang theory'??!

[Ostfriese]

If that's about the TV-series: never watched it.



I'm at a loss here. The "ä" you want limits it to very few languages, German, Finnish and Swedish alongside a few post-soviet nations in Central Asia.


I've found nothing that fits all of your requirements.

[Aktungbby]

all right I'll throw you a bone since you're the only one left.:D It's German, not on treads and doesn't have a main gun...and has a single specific defensive purpose...seriously related to 'big bang theory'; but not related to the tv show in any way.:yeah: I'd mention how many wheels it has; but that would give away the puzzle. Its crew consisted of a driver and a commander.

[Ostfriese]

Hmm, if I'm right here you are to be commended for having dug very deeply:


Alkett Minenräumer? A 100+ metric ton tricycle, of which only one prototype was ever built?

[Aktungbby]

thats it! The NK-101 minenräumer.:Kaleun_Salute: Too slow and susceptible to artillary it was found abandoned in russia and is in a museum there to this day. The 10 plates circumfrensing its 3 tricycle wheels, two front, one rear each would explode mines as the bottom three plates briefly formed to absorb the mine's explosive force. Over to birthday boy, Ostfriese-thanks for your persistence!:salute:https://i0.wp.com/www.destinationsjourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/alkett-vskfz-617-nk-101-side.jpg?w=1232&ssl=1 https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6vTOU1Akksc/WmSt1eVf88I/AAAAAAAA0E4/cJJvPfqRzZcq7wzTZLfUwbpljZQ5YtAFQCLcBGAs/s640/Minenraumer%2Bside%2Bfront%2B.jpg http://panzerserra.blogspot.com/2018/03/schwere-minenraumer-alkett-vskfz-617-nk.html Each wheel was equipped with steel "feet" fixed in a floating position so that three of them leaned on the ground in any position of the wheel - in order to create the maximum area of ​​contact with the ground, which was better to dissipate the blast wave from mines triggered by the weight of the machine . An additional advantage was the reduction of the trawler's pressure on the ground, because it had a weight of 50 tons. Theoretically, she could withstand the explosion of any mine. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vCxVYYpYYLY/Wp6B33dK9_I/AAAAAAAA06U/2ZDDAkL4ZTA6eh7YbztCWw5UiZ5f4dvQwCLcBGAs/s640/Minenraumer%2Bspecs.jpg https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Klu4gkS3eWM/WqVdyXlN0LI/AAAAAAAA0_8/XQejeg_gdCY90QDm6q3Dw-DVBgWM4fvyACEwYBhgL/s640/climbing.jpgand the 'competion, Mine exploders; Schwere Minenräumer Alkett VsKfz 617,
M4 T1E3 Aunt Jemima and M4A2 T10:https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LZvsN_annog/WqVdxCJAdzI/AAAAAAAA0_g/AFCTHArNrdUCHJ5MAB6ZZAdXd3pU0iTKACEwYBhgL/s640/Minenraumer%2B015.JPG

[Ostfriese]

I only knew this thing as "Minenroller" (without the umlaut) and very little beyond that. Quite a unique thing you found there.



I will prepare something within the next couple of hours.

[Ostfriese]

Right, something quick and easy:


https://i.postimg.cc/pLLnDWZg/986532.jpg


What's this a part of?

[Eichhörnchen]

Something from Tutankhamun's tomb?

[Ostfriese]

Something from Tutankhamun's tomb?


^ No.

[Eisenwurst]

Is it food related??

[Ostfriese]

Is it food related??


No.



People usually associate it with a certain type of drink, but it has nothing to do with that drink (or any other drink or food item) by itself.

[Catfish]

Something to do with the Oktoberfest, or Bavaria?
:)

[Ostfriese]

Something to do with the Oktoberfest, or Bavaria?
:)


A lot with Bavaria, but not restricted just to the Oktoberfest (but you can't have Oktoberfest without it). Catfish seems to be on to something :D

[Aktungbby]

anything to do with beer?

[Ostfriese]

anything to do with beer?


From above: People usually associate it with a certain type of drink (beer), but it has nothing to do with that drink (or any other drink or food item) by itself.

[mapuc]

Is it one of these you hammer into a wooden barrel and thereby be able to pour liquid from this barrel.

Markus

[Aktungbby]

From above: People usually associate it with a certain type of drink (beer), but it has nothing to do with that drink (or any other drink or food item) by itself.

Is it one of these you hammer into a wooden barrel and thereby be able to pour liquid from this barrel.

Markus:hmmm:...not if it has "nothing to do with beer or any other drink"...Is it a hand tool?

[Ostfriese]

No, not a tool.

[mapuc]

No, not a tool.

I was wrong, but it wasn't a tool I tried to describe.

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

https://i.imgur.com/PXbIM7S.jpg

Well it looks exactly like this guy's shirt - but nothing to do with him I expect

[Catfish]

https://i.imgur.com/PXbIM7S.jpg
Well it looks exactly like this guy's shirt - but nothing to do with him I expect
Of course it has, look closer :D

[Ostfriese]

Of course it has, look closer :D


Couldn't agree more. :D You are leaving the spoils for the others once again.

[Jeff-Groves]

Buckle on the lederhosen.

[Ostfriese]

Aaaaand Jeff with the steal:


https://i.postimg.cc/3NHPtNsZ/LED-25-1.jpg


Over to you, and cheers. (Being from the Prussian north, I've never worn lederhosen, even though oktoberfests have long reached the north as well)

[Jeff-Groves]

What is this a part of?
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1069&pictureid=13306

[Catfish]

A lamp?

[Jeff-Groves]

Nope

[Catfish]

Valve?

[Jeff-Groves]

Not a valve.
I have one in my living room that this part is attached to.

[Catfish]

Must be an american thing. I mean the parts are easily to identify, but ..
a cover nut and a thumb wheel ..? :hmmm:
A button of some sort?

[mapuc]

Is this Thumb wheel for adjustment ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

attatched to an air rifle?

[Eichhörnchen]

Telescope adjuster wheel? They look like this

[Jimbuna]

Water sprinkler?

[Jeff-Groves]

Wipe my stuff and someone else take over.
Doing a big move and rewiring of my network so not able to keep up.
Sorry Guys.

[mapuc]

Wipe my stuff and someone else take over.
Doing a big move and rewiring of my network so not able to keep up.
Sorry Guys.

I vote for Jim

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

I reckon it was a telescope :yep:

[Jeff-Groves]

No. It's a Top rolling machine for cigarettes.
Currently moveing into the Den so have to move a lot of stuff.
Like all my network wiring and routers and such.
Also redoing most of the heating duct work.

[Aktungbby]

Whats this?https://subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=13307

[Ostfriese]

Twin engine float plane?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Jimbuna]

Vinnie sneaks in via the underground passage.

[Aktungbby]

I vote for Jim

Markus

Vinnie sneaks in via the underground passage.
Well 'twixt Mapuc thinkin' it's a democracy; and figurrin' you might be suffering from jet lag; I stepped in manfully to keep the game going??!:shucks::O::arrgh!:

[Ostfriese]

Hmm, three-engined?

[Catfish]

German .. ?

[Aktungbby]

Hmm, three-engined?

German .. ?nope 2 bothayaz! One might have been German...briefly prior to scrapping...

[Aktungbby]

C'mon ya buggers somebody 's gotta get this easy one. BIG Hint it was used commercially and militarily in WWII....and had four engines.:shucks:

[Jimbuna]

B-17?

[Ostfriese]

I'd still go with a float plane. An Italian CANT Z.511, maybe?

[Aktungbby]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/CantZ511%28IdroGigante%291s.jpg That's the one! Over to Ostfriese :salute: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/CANT_Z.511.jpg

[Catfish]

Beautiful bird! And congrats to Ostfriese :)

[Ostfriese]

Well, I'll be...


Sorry, you'll have to wait for the European afternoon for the next one.

[Jimbuna]

Slacker! :O:

[Ostfriese]

Slacker! :O:

I‘m not a pensioner yet, and I won‘t be for quite some time to come. So, be patient :03:

[Ostfriese]

What's this?


https://i.postimg.cc/mDqWg1qg/unus.jpg

[Aktungbby]

sawdust?

[Ostfriese]

sawdust?


Nice idea, but no.

[Aktungbby]

is it edible?

[Ostfriese]

is it edible?


^No.

[Aktungbby]

is it manmade?

[Ostfriese]

is it manmade?


Nope.

[Aktungbby]

Elephant scat?

[Ostfriese]

Elephant scat?


No :D

[Jimbuna]

A wombats have cube-shaped poo?

[Ostfriese]

A wombats have cube-shaped poo?

Yes, we have a winner!

These little buggers from "down under" produce cube-shaped feces like the one in my picture

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Vombatus_ursinus_-Maria_Island_National_Park.jpg


Over to Jimbuna.

[Jimbuna]

Okay then, what is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/jS2yrzp2/eeeeee.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

A military vehicle ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Sure is.

[Catfish]

WW1 ?

[Jimbuna]

Later.

[Ostfriese]

Bren carrier?

[Jimbuna]

No but it is a tracked vehicle.

[Aktungbby]

british?

[Jimbuna]

Oh yes.

[Aktungbby]

WW II?

[Jimbuna]

Yes.

[Catfish]

MBT?

[Jimbuna]

Yes.

[Catfish]

Hmm, Churchill?

[Jimbuna]

Not a Churchill but there is a connection.

CLUE: Not many were built and today there is only one in existence.

[Catfish]

17 pdr gun?

[Jimbuna]

Yes.

[Catfish]

The Black Prince?

[Jimbuna]

That be the one :up:

https://i.postimg.cc/50HCRxdK/Black-Prince-tank-side-view.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Prince_(tank)

Over to you :salute:

[Catfish]

This was nice, also a crash course in british tanks :) :salute:


ok, what is this?

https://i.imgur.com/lZVLQknm.jpg

[Ostfriese]

A piece of medieval armor, scale armor perhaps?

[Catfish]

^ not medieval scale armo(u)r :)
(trying to be cryptical, but failing (as usual))

[Aktungbby]

japanese?

[Catfish]

^ No.

[mapuc]

My first thought was-From the Roman empire ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Sorry, nothing to do with romans.

[Aktungbby]

steel?

[Jimbuna]

Turkey feathers?

[Catfish]

steel?
Not steel.
Turkey feathers?
No.

[Jimbuna]

Part of a uniform?

[Catfish]

Sorry, not part of a uniform

[mapuc]

Is it some kind of a sculptor ?

Markus

[Catfish]

Sorry, not a sculpture –

[Ostfriese]

I'd still go with "armor".


You disregarded "medieval", so I'd say it's older. Ancient era?

[Catfish]

I'd still go with "armor".
In a way, yes. It sure protects, but no one is really sure what this protection it is for.
You disregarded "medieval", so I'd say it's older. Ancient era?
I am not exactly sure how long this exists; surely older than medieval times, and pretty much here today :D

[Catfish]

Big hint: It is not man-made.

[Aktungbby]

ancient pangolin armor?

[Catfish]

Good idea but no. Not a pangolin, also it is recent/extant/(contemporary?)
Probably existent since a long time, but no one really knows yet.

[Aktungbby]

a type of keratin?

[Catfish]

Had to look this up, no not keratine.
You asked about steel .. close but it is not.
It really is VERY unusual, in any respect.

[Aktungbby]

It is metallic? not organic?

[Jimbuna]

South American?

[Catfish]

It is metallic? not organic?
Two questions but ok.. it is metallic. And it is organic.
South American?
No.

[Ostfriese]

Two questions but ok.. it is metallic. And it is organic.


A wonder of chemistry :D (in chemistry it wouldn't be possible to be both a metal and organic).


Is it of volcanic origin?

[Catfish]

Exactly said, part of it is metallic.
You're on the right path with volcanoes .. :03:

[Jimbuna]

African?

[Aktungbby]

South American?

that eliminates El Laco iron deposts in the Atacama. A european volcano?

[Catfish]

African?
Afraid not
that eliminates El Laco iron deposts in the Atacama. A european volcano?
This neither lives in or around the US, nor Europe.
I said it is organic, so what is sought for is not a volcano (but they play a major role for its existence, in a lot of aspects).
It has only be found in a few locations.

[Aktungbby]

Indonesia?

[Catfish]

^ Not Indonesia.
It seems it only exists in certain conditions, in the indian ocean.

[Aktungbby]

does it float on water?

[Catfish]

^ no.

[Jimbuna]

Deep-Sea Snail - Sea Pangolin?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/deep-sea-snail-iron-shell-first-creature-declared-endangered-ocean-mining-180972727/

[Catfish]

Deep-Sea Snail - Sea Pangolin?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/deep-sea-snail-iron-shell-first-creature-declared-endangered-ocean-mining-180972727/

That is the one! :up:

https://i.imgur.com/wnidRP5l.jpg

Also called volcano snail or scaly-foot gastropod, Chrysomallon squamiferum lives at a depth of 2400 to 2900 meters at some points along the geotectonic rift in the indian ocean, near hydothermal wells also called "black smokers", in temperatures up to 750 degrees Fahrenheit or 399 degrees Celsius.

There is iron embedded in its housing as in those scales you can see on the photos. You can pick it up with a magnet.
It's shell is so tough that some engineers think about military armour based on the material.

"The volcano snail could go extinct if conservation efforts are not made for it with the onset of seabed mining and exploration. Its habitats are on the verge of being destroyed by human activity."

https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/what-is-a-scaly-foot-snail

https://a-z-animals.com/animals/volcano-snail/

https://allthatsinteresting.com/volcano-snail

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/deep-sea-snail-iron-shell-first-creature-declared-endangered-ocean-mining-180972727/


Over to Jim :salute:

[Aktungbby]

ancient pangolin armor?

Good idea but no. Not a pangolin, also it is recent/extant/(contemporary?)
Probably existent since a long time, but no one really knows yet.I protest!:Kaleun_Mad: your 'correct' answer to my above quote should have been: " you're half-right; stay on the (sulpherous) scent and perhaps we'll 'sea' U at the finish"...:shucks: Actually, this puzzle was driving me nuts-I'd seen this particular picture before but couldn't place it; my Aricept tablets are past their expiration date!:timeout::oops: Congrats to Jimbo!:salute:

[Catfish]

I protest!:Kaleun_Mad: your 'correct' answer to my above quote should have been: " you're half-right; stay on the (sulpherous) scent and perhaps we'll 'sea' U at the finish"...:shucks:[...]
Well I did not even know it was called the "sea pangolin" until Jim's post today :yep:

[Ostfriese]

Pillow fight!
Now, who will get the pillow with the horseshoe hidden inside?:D

[Catfish]

Pillow fight!
Now, who will get the pillow with the horseshoe hidden inside?:D

I'll take this (https://twistedsifter.com/2020/01/marble-pillows-chiseled-by-hakon-anton-fageras/) (watch the link :D)

https://i.imgur.com/To3IZh8l.jpg

[Ostfriese]

You are one tricky SOAB. :Kaleun_Cheers::Kaleun_Salute:

[Jimbuna]

Who is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/GhBFPdq9/4tytyy44.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Ostfriese]

Male?

[Jimbuna]

Yes.

[Ostfriese]

British?

[Jimbuna]

Not British.

[Aktungbby]

actor?

[Jimbuna]

Not an actor but some might argue the point.

[Ostfriese]

European?

[Jimbuna]

Not European :)

[Aktungbby]

Donald trump?

[Jimbuna]

Heaven forbid :timeout:

[Aktungbby]

amerikan?

[Jimbuna]

No but he classes America as a friend and not a foe.

[Ostfriese]

Canadian?

[Jimbuna]

Not Canadian but he also classes Canada as a friend and not a foe.

[Aktungbby]

national leader?

[Jimbuna]

Either that or second top dog.

[mapuc]

Edit
it's not an American
End edit

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Not American (see #5671)

[Ostfriese]

Chris Hipkins, PM of New Zealand?

[Jimbuna]

No but it is a politician who has been in the press during the past week.

[mapuc]

From Israel ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Sure is.

[Aktungbby]

'Bibi' Netanyahu?

[Jimbuna]

He's the one.

https://i.postimg.cc/NFTpPqRw/Benjamin-Netanyahu-February-2023.jpg (https://postimg.cc/sGjYvLnn)

Over to you :salute:

[Aktungbby]

My thanks to mapuc:salute:for leading me to the promised land....I'll have something shortly...

[Aktungbby]

My thanks to mapuc:salute:for leading me to the promised land....I'll have something shortly...EDIT: what is this?https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=13316

[Jimbuna]

An aircraft engine?

[Catfish]

ww1?

[Aktungbby]

In answer to your questions to bothayaz, as asked, oui!

[Catfish]

british plane ?

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Jimbuna]

German?

[Aktungbby]

nope; more of a joint Allied project...:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

French?

[Catfish]

BEC2 Blériot Experimental?

[Aktungbby]

French?yes, but the engine wasn't.

BEC2 Blériot Experimental?nope

[mapuc]

Italy ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

nope

[Jimbuna]

Biplane?

[Aktungbby]

nope, Big hint: I'm surprised Lawrence of Arabia didn't use one??

[Jimbuna]

nope, Big hint: I'm surprised Lawrence of Arabia didn't use one??

Did he fly in one?

[Aktungbby]

he might have dealt with simlar engines when he became an airman after his Middle East career.

[Ostfriese]

A Hispano-Suiza engine?

[Aktungbby]

My sources indicate it was a British Admiralty requested naval Sunbeam 110 hp engine desired by the Navy for its purposes. Only one was built. It was equipped with a .303 front firing machine gun.

[Aktungbby]

Big hint: it never flew and was deemed a failure for its intended purpose: there is even a 1/72 scale model of it: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?pictureid=13319&albumid=815&dl=1697741451&thumb=1< practically a dead giveaway!:shucks:

[Ostfriese]

Hmm, you said it was French, but could it be the Sizaire-Berwick Wind Wagon (even though it was English)?

[Aktungbby]

I believe I said "joint allied effort" In 1912 a chassis by the French engineer Sizaire was fitted with a body by F. W. Berwick & Company in London; the first Sizaire-Berwick had been made. but you nailed it!:Kaleun_Salute: well done! https://i0.wp.com/www.escuderia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/sizaire-berwick-blindado-1915-worst-weapons-0.jpg?fit=800%2C419&ssl=1 https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52669098943_a3a24f82f3_b.jpg over 2 U

[Ostfriese]

Yay!


Next round: what's this and where is it?


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1443&pictureid=13320

[Jimbuna]

A building?

[Ostfriese]

A building?


Yes.

[Jimbuna]

Ceiling?

[Ostfriese]

Ceiling?


I don't completely understand the question. It's not the ceiling of a room, if that was the question.

[Jimbuna]

Religious building?

[Ostfriese]

No, although it prominently shows a religious symbol on certain occasions.

[Aktungbby]

in europe?

[Jimbuna]

Middle East?

[Ostfriese]

in europe?


Yes


Middle East?


No

[Jimbuna]

Germany?

[Ostfriese]

Germany?


Indeed

[Aktungbby]

famous?

[Jimbuna]

Fernsehturm Berlin?

[Ostfriese]

Fernsehturm Berlin?


It is :Kaleun_Salute:


Built by the East Germans, the Fernsehturm (Television Tower) shows a very distinct cross when it is in bright sunlight:


https://www.bz-berlin.de/data/uploads/2018/04/194170343_daee3afbe9-626x432.jpeg


It's Jimbuna with the next riddle.

[Jimbuna]

What is this?

https://i.postimg.cc/s2M9LP99/5uuiuuujj.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Ostfriese]

A road in the countryside, picture taken from above?

[Eichhörnchen]

Masonry?

[Jimbuna]

A road in the countryside, picture taken from above?

Afraid not.

[Jimbuna]

Masonry?

Nope and this 'thing' moves.

[Aktungbby]

is it alive?

[Jimbuna]

Not a living entity.

[mapuc]

Is it camouflage we see in the picture ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Spot on :up:

[mapuc]

Which must mean it's a military vehicle of some kind

Markus

[Aktungbby]

from WWII for D-Day?

[Jimbuna]

Which must mean it's a military vehicle of some kind

Markus

Sure is.

[Jimbuna]

from WWII for D-Day?

Later, much later.

[Aktungbby]

Aerial surveillance camo?

[Jimbuna]

Aerial surveillance camo?


I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you mean.

[Aktungbby]

British tank camo?https://camouflagepatterns.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/task-tropical-on-tanklr.jpg?w=640

[Jimbuna]

It is a tank but not British.

[Aktungbby]

German?

[Jimbuna]

Nein.

[Aktungbby]

ukranian?

[Jimbuna]

No but they may have something not too dissimilar.

[Aktungbby]

anti-infrared camo?

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anti-infrared camo?

Quite possibly but I can't say for sure.

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russian?

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It is said o be based on Russian as well as western models.

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swedish?

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Not European :)

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chinese?