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Jimbuna
03-25-21, 01:54 PM
The argument for the EU is with AstraZeneca and not the uk.

The UK are still exporting key components for the vaccine to Belgium.

The problem is and rightly so with AstraZeneca.

Jimbuna
03-25-21, 01:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxlpC5YSCXU

Jimbuna
03-25-21, 01:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRrmodJZYio

Jimbuna
03-25-21, 02:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBzJ2Tum7uA

Skybird
03-25-21, 03:52 PM
I had met the new neighbors yesterday none of us wore masks either AND I shook their hands as I welcomed them. Afterwards we stood around and shot the breeze for about 15 minutes well within 6 feet of each other. They're coming over for dinner tonight. Does that make us anti-science, super spreaders, should we be ashamed of our actions?

And you are proud of - of what exactly? Maximising the risk not just for yourself, but for others as well? When you get bitten and unknowingly run arond and spread it then, and others getting ill due to your indeed anti-science attitude, some of them getting ill much more seriosu than you maybe, maybe even getting hospitalized, even die?

Its a very infectous pandemic going on, and you refuse even minimum reason, like before it was considered mere politeness to not sneeze into somebody else face if you had a normal cold, but turn away and hold a hand before the mouth. I see no respect for the other, nor care, nor politeness in this kind of behaviour you report.

No reason to be proud of anything there, Rocky.

mapuc
03-25-21, 04:06 PM
^ This made me remember a discussion in a friends bulletin.

In this he wrote critical stuff about the Danish Government and the new hard lockdown.

One of his friend wrote a very anti-corona comment-something with government introduce Communism...

Reading stuff like this made me sad, what made me most sad was what another person wrote.

He wrote that he was in the hospital in bed with oxygen mask and fighting for his life. He was tested positiv 2-2½ week earlier.

The interesting thing was...only one person quoted him, the rest kept on writing anti-corona comments and negativ things about the Danish government.

Markus

Catfish
03-25-21, 04:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfrThV6DJu4

Jimbuna
03-26-21, 07:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJV19GTSNBQ

Jimbuna
03-26-21, 07:19 AM
European Union leaders have stopped short of banning vaccine exports after a protracted row with the Anglo-Swedish manufacturer AstraZeneca.

At a summit on Thursday they gave backing in principle for toughening export controls.

But a post-summit statement emphasised the importance of global supply chains needed to produce vaccinations.

Elements of the AstraZeneca vaccination are manufactured in a number of EU states.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said AstraZeneca must "catch up" on deliveries to the EU before exporting doses elsewhere.

French President Emmanuel Macron told reporters this marked "the end of naivety" from the EU.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56529868

Nothing more than a deflection or cover up for the abysmal way they have organised themselves.

There are millions of AstraZeneca vaccines within the EU and they have dithered over making a decision.

Just the other day the EU sent Italian military police to a warehouse only to discover the vaccines were actually awaiting clearance to be distributed within the EU

Jimbuna
03-26-21, 07:22 AM
PRICELESS!! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJOhuDA5G4I

Skybird
03-26-21, 08:12 AM
Unbelievable tales from Germany!

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/coronavirus/gastbeitrag-der-nzz-berliner-arzt-ich-bin-fassungslos-mit-welchem-leichtsinn-bei-uns-geimpft-wird_id_13124947.html


I should get vaccinated in such a centre? Well, I need time to think a second time about it. And a third time...

Skybird
03-26-21, 09:03 AM
PRICELESS!! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJOhuDA5G4I
https://www.google.com/search?q=juncker+on+von+der+leyen&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjyx_3Cj87vAhWEIMUKHamUAXMQpwV6BAgBECU&biw=1488&bih=910


Limit search to "past 24 hours".

Jimbuna
03-26-21, 01:57 PM
Limit search to "past 24 hours".

She's certainly not doing the EU or herself any favours imho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmd2LFMgnaA

Jimbuna
03-26-21, 01:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrOf1UQXsLI

Jimbuna
03-27-21, 02:09 PM
More 'Russian' propaganda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da0YcUYpLRw

Jimbuna
03-27-21, 02:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9irEbq43Qc

Jimbuna
03-27-21, 02:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXrNQa6Vb9c

Gorpet
03-27-21, 04:18 PM
Oh there are a few positive traits and history, but even so what does this have to do with me? Do i hold you personally accountable for the invention of the Edison bulb, or for centuries of slavery and indian reservations or Guantanamo?

And i do like most of Elgar's works, having one of the Proms' concerts live CD maybe meanwhile i heard it a bit too often. And I was referring to Rockstar's "greed" post as the arrow indicated :D
I do not think that greed is good, ambition is.

All the crossroads of Ambition leads to Greed. American Politicians are famous for it.

Catfish
03-27-21, 04:26 PM
^ i do not quite agree, though having become basically cynical (or realistic) myself i understand what you mean.

If someone wants to invent something to make life better, like a vaccine or something, he may have the ambition and drive to do this, and this must not necessarily lead to greed.
If you are a politician.. well i guess it's hard to not become greedy if your ambition brought you far enough, in the rat race.

Catfish
03-27-21, 05:25 PM
More 'Russian' propaganda [...]
Indeed. Seldom heard so much nonsense in one video. But look at the comments, they are buying it as if it's the Gospel. Use yellow press bull and add your pinch of propaganda. "Big Pharma"?

Catfish
03-27-21, 05:32 PM
I guess that's a bit more to the point, the E.U. exports Millions of Covid vaccine doses despite problems.

The bloc has been sparring with allies over supplies of coronavirus shots and was recently accused of vaccine protectionism.
But internal documents show it has exported many doses even amid its own shortages, and rollout failures.

The E.U. has come under fierce criticism for “vaccine nationalism” and protectionism, which intensified last week when Italy blocked a small shipment of doses to Australia, stepping up a tug of war over badly needed shots.

But export numbers, recorded in detailed, closely held documents seen by The New York Times, show that the European Union, far from being protectionist, has in fact been a vaccine exporting powerhouse

The issue of vaccine production and exports has created a bitter fallout between the European Union and Britain, amid accusations that the E.U. wants to deprive the country of vaccine doses out of spite, in part because Britain is doing so much better with its inoculation campaign after leaving the bloc this year.
In fact the export data shows Britain to be the biggest importer of doses produced in the E.U.

The British government vehemently denied the charge. But, practically speaking, Britain is not exporting vaccines authorized for use at home, though it has said it would be prepared to give excess doses to neighboring Ireland — after Britain’s own vaccination efforts were done.

A British government official said that where vaccines produced in the U.K. were distributed was a matter governed by the contracts between the companies and the government.

The bloc was weeks behind the United States and Britain in sealing deals with pharmaceutical firms last year [not so, the published treaties show the EU was a day faster than the UK when it comes to Astra-Zeneca]
and has been criticized for acting too slowly.
But it did secure a broad portfolio of vaccines on favorable terms on behalf of its members that granted the countries relatively quick access to immunization that most could not have dreamed of had they been acting alone.

Of the 34 million vaccine doses made in E.U.-based facilities that were exported between Feb. 1 and March 9, more than nine million doses went to Britain, according to the internal documents.

The second-largest recipient of E.U.-made vaccines was Canada, which received nearly four million doses last month, while the third-largest was Mexico, receiving 3.1 million vaccine doses.

The E.U. also shipped 954,000 vaccines to the United States since the start of February. The second-largest recipient of E.U.-made vaccines was Canada, which received nearly four million doses last month, while the third-largest was Mexico, receiving 3.1 million vaccine doses.

Experts say that the European Union has been smart not to curb exports to favor its own population, even if that message isn’t popular in the short-term with its citizens.

(shorted from Washington Post, and New York Times)

Easy for 'Boris' to boast how "well" it all goes (after 150,000 dead) when he got millions of doses of the german Biontec vaccine first, then hoards vaccine and cheats with Astra-Zeneca without giving it to Ireland, Scotland or other countries. Reading the twisted and lying in tabloids like the Sun or Express UK make not only me vomit!
Well done indeed. The world saw this and we will see how this fares in the long run.

Jimbuna
03-28-21, 05:59 AM
The UK has reported 58 coronavirus deaths and 4,715 cases in the latest 24-hour period.

The number of deaths marks a fall from last Saturday, 20 March, when 96 were recorded. Cases have also fallen week-on-week, down from 5,587 reported last Saturday.

First vaccine doses administered across the UK are edging closer to 30 million with figure now standing at 29,727,435, with some 3,293,517 people having also had a second vaccine dose.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-reports-58-deaths-and-4-715-cases-in-latest-24-hour-period-12258248

Jimbuna
03-28-21, 10:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_zqqFhGyk

Jimbuna
03-28-21, 02:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sni7e-2oGZk

Rockstar
03-28-21, 07:16 PM
Funny, Germany can't get their own citizens vaccinated. Yet who does Taiwan ask for help in obtaining vaccines? Made me wonder is this where Germany's /E.U. vaccines are going?


https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/taiwan-asks-germany-help-obtain-091522962.html




I guess if Germans want to get vaccinated they need to have something their own government wants.


https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/covid-19-taiwan-says-to-get-1-3-million-vaccines-covax-14112588


Taiwan has sought Germany's help (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/taiwan-covid-19-vaccine-germany-help-chip-shortage-14061422) in securing COVID-19 vaccines, Economy Minister Wang Mei-hua said last week, after Berlin asked for the island's assistance in easing a shortage of automobile semiconductor chips.

Catfish
03-29-21, 02:02 AM
Funny, Germany can't get their own citizens vaccinated. Yet who does Taiwan ask for help in obtaining vaccines? Made me wonder is this where Germany's /E.U. vaccines are going? ... [...]


E.g. to the UK, Canada, the US, Mexico, and others.
The 27 members of the EU decided to tackle the pandemic as a global threat and to more or less evenly distribute the vaccines at least in the western bloc.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2739099&postcount=6771

Skybird
03-29-21, 03:36 AM
What counts is not the claimed intention. What counts is the acchieved effect (that was forseeable).
When poloiticians fail on small scale, they also fail on bigger scale - and then far more serious conse quences. Thats why i refuse to accept bigger playgrounds for them.

Jimbuna
03-29-21, 06:15 AM
Two households or groups of up to six people are now able to meet outside in England as the stay-at-home Covid restrictions order ends.

Outdoor sport facilities including tennis courts and golf courses are also reopening and organised outdoor sports can resume.

Weddings can take place again but only with six people attending.

Boris Johnson urges caution, saying cases are up in Europe and variants threaten the vaccine rollout.

The message on this day of lockdown easing is: "It's all outdoors," says UK minister Nigel Huddleston, adding people need to be "sensible"

A single dose of the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines was effective at stopping 62% of coronavirus infections in care homes, a study finds.

More than 30 million people in the UK have been vaccinated and more than 3.5 million adults have had their second dose.

Mexico publishes revised figures showing the number of deaths caused by coronavirus is 60% higher than previously reported.

Jimbuna
03-29-21, 06:22 AM
Chancellor Angela Merkel has urged German regions to stick to lockdown measures agreed with her government. Areas with more than 100 new infections per 100,000 people are supposed to impose curfews. But a strict five-day lockdown over Easter, which Merkel wanted, will not now happen. The national rate is now 134 per 100,000 people.

The eastern city of Weimar is launching a three-day trial project aimed at unlocking the economy, with the help of increased testing. Shops and museums will be open for anyone who has tested negative in the past 48 hours. Saarland and the cities of Rostock and Tübingen are also easing Covid rules, defying the federal government.

Serbia has been inoculating citizens of neighbouring countries, amid a surplus of vaccines and a reluctance among many Serbs to be injected.
Queues were reported on the borders with North Macedonia and Bosnia, and migrants also got the jab at a camp near Belgrade.

In France, the number of Covid patients in intensive care has risen to 4,872, close to a November peak, though last April the figure was about 7,000. Paris doctors have warned they may soon have to choose between emergency patients, as bed space runs out. Paris and 18 other regions are under partial lockdown.
In those 19 French regions any school class with one pupil testing positive will close immediately, whereas the threshold before today was three positive tests.
French Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer has been accused of frivolity for tweeting a video clip entitled Another Window on Zoom, inspired by the 1979 Pink Floyd hit Another Brick in the Wall.

Portugal’s government says it is extending the suspension of commercial and private flights to the UK as well as Brazil to 15 April.

Jimbuna
03-30-21, 07:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-poCVhV5-yY

Jimbuna
03-30-21, 07:11 AM
A total of 963 deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 19 March mentioned coronavirus - the lowest since October.

The number of deaths being seen across the UK is below what is expected at this time of year, the Office for National Statistics says.

Scotland's "stay at home" order will be replaced on Friday by guidance to stay local, Nicola Sturgeon says.

Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng says the UK must focus on vaccinating all of its adults to make sure they are safe.

It comes as Prime Minister Boris Johnson is among 24 world leaders to call for a global treaty to prepare for future pandemics.

A new treaty would help establish better systems for alerting people about potential pandemics, they argue.

Roughly half of people in the UK now have antibodies against Covid, tests conducted by the ONS show.

Comedian and actor Sir Lenny Henry has written an open letter urging black Britons to take the Covid-19 vaccine.

A senior scientist warns the US faces "impending doom" as coronavirus cases and hospital admissions rise across the country.

Moonlight
03-30-21, 07:13 AM
'Pure whitewash!' WHO savaged after reports claims China 'not responsible' for Covid

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1416787/WHO-China-coronavirus-report-Wuhan-laboratory-Covid19-latest-vn

Bleeding hell! this organisation needs closing down immediately, bribes, backhanders, incentives or is it plain old blackmail being used, in time we might find out the truth but until then these accusations will be constantly thrown at the heads of this useless body.
There's someone at the top of the tree directing the direction of this investigation and it's deliberately being led away from any Chinese blame.

It was rampaging around Wuhan in China well before it started appearing anywhere else, the Chinese couldn't contain it and over a year later it's still rampaging around the world, so do the right thing for once you lying bastards and own up to it.

The China virus is Chinese, it's in the name you bleeding wallies. :doh:

Jimbuna
03-30-21, 07:16 AM
Slovak President Zuzana Caputova will appoint Finance Minister Eduard Heger as PM in an attempt to end a government crisis surrounding outgoing PM Igor Matovic's secret acquisition of two million doses of Russia's Sputnik V vaccine. Half the cabinet have resigned over the purchase. The EU’s medical regulator hasn’t approved the vaccine yet, and Slovakia’s health authority hasn’t either – but it can be given on a voluntary basis.

The number of people in intensive care in French hospitals has reached 4,974, higher than during the second wave last November. Meanwhile, Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer is coming under pressure to close French schools as the number of children affected rises to more than 20,000. At the moment classes go online as soon as a positive case is confirmed.

Sweden’s vaccines coordinator Richard Bergstrom has told Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet that EU exports of AstraZeneca vaccines have virtually stopped. EU leaders backed export controls at the end of last week but emphasised the importance of global supply chains.

The Irish government is planning to use the pandemic to reinvigorate rural Ireland. It aims to transform disused derelict buildings and pubs into remote working hubs.

A Dutch church’s front door has been slightly damaged in an apparent firework attack, linked to tensions involving continuing church services in the pandemic. Under Dutch rules worshippers are limited to 30 for services but the church at Krimpen aan de Ijssel has defied the restrictions. A reporter was harassed outside the church on Sunday.

Italian PM Mario Draghi says the goal of half a million vaccinations appears not to be far off. He says Italians need to get out of “this situation of inactivity”. Meanwhile the north-western province of Liguria has barred Italians from visiting their second homes or boats over the Easter holiday to limit the spread of infection.

Skybird
03-30-21, 04:18 PM
Germany restricts use of AstraZeneca vaccine to over 60s in most cases.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-restricts-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-to-over-60s-in-most-cases/a-57049301

There have been 31 cases of brain thromboses by now, in younger women. 9 dead.

:hmmm: Can somebody please convince me of the math at work here. Or better don't try, I might flip out. The Germans are Angst!(tm) hysterics.

Skybird
03-30-21, 04:50 PM
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyantibodydataforth euk/30march2021

Every second UK citizen now has antibodies, official statistics show.

But German media tear their mouths open and criticise that Johnson has not enough doses to allow a second jab (or so they claim). Typical German. Adn destracting from one's own miserable failure.

Moonlight
03-30-21, 05:04 PM
I ask these questions Skybird.
What's the difference between a 60 year old and someone who is a lot younger?.
Is it just females who are affected or does it include males as well?.
What other part of the body is affected by this thrombosis? and are the symptoms the same for everyone?.
What other chemicals are involved?, illegal drugs?, prescription drugs?.
Is it genetic related?, alcohol related?, food related?, sex related?.

Have they done extensive autopsies and found a common denominator yet?.
Is this another kneejerk reaction like the previous one?, your medical experts need to answer these questions and be pretty damn quick about it.

As you are from the land of Merkel you are in the right place to find out for us. :up:

Skybird
03-30-21, 05:43 PM
The German specific term is "Sinusvenenthrombose".

Its specific for women of younger age.

It blocks a major blood vessel in the brain.

There have been 31 cases in Germany, in other countnries as well. In Germany, 9 died.

Males are effected, but only very rarely, compared to females.

Higher age women are not that vulnerable to it.

Over here it still the older ones being vaccinated only - and teachers, nurses. Since it is nurses and most nurses are women, young females are overrepresneted in case numbers for this thrombosis.

Thats all I can tell you on it.

Its not nice to have, and nine dead are nine dead. But I compare that to the hundreds of thousands of vaccinations that now do not take place - and the resulting infections and death cases from that.

Statistically, they said some days ago that this complications shows up 8 times more often (I think) than has to be expected from other (any) vaccines and their complication risks. The alarmism is statistically founded, not because the bodies pile up high into the sky. And thats where I start to get problems with these decisions.

First we did not allow AZ for above 65 year old. Then we allow AZ for below 65 year old. Then we ban the use for some days in general. Then we allow it again. Then we ban it for below 60 year old.

AZ certainly has issues, it had them from phase 1 trial on, and the way in whcih AZ documented and collected data, was quite messy and incompetent. Its just that we are in a situation now where we cannot afford to be this mimosa-like and perfectionistic. Im sorry to say so, but we just cannot afford it. As I said in the past, AZ would not be my first choice if I were given a choice. But if there is no chpoice, then for heavens sake take this one.

My pick, if I would have the choice, currently would be the Russian vaccine, assuming the published numbers are correct.


My life style and social situation allows me to not be in a hurry with getting vaccinated. With my old parents, its different.

Rockstar
03-30-21, 07:21 PM
'Pure whitewash!' WHO savaged after reports claims China 'not responsible' for Covid

... The China virus is Chinese, it's in the name you bleeding wallies. :doh:

Just an FYI, the below link is to China's Global Times paper. There's no doubt in my mind it's very much a tightly controlled state owned media outlet. The only upside to this, is it can make an excellent gauge as to what their government is thinking without any Chicom government official having to say a word.

According to the Chicom government the answer to the origin of COVID lies within other states. :roll:

Virus origins unsolved in WHO report, ‘more states should be probed’


https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202103/1219901.shtml

Catfish
03-31-21, 01:44 AM
I ask these questions Skybird.
What's the difference between a 60 year old and someone who is a lot younger?.
Is it just females who [....] blah
As you are from the land of Merkel you are in the right place to find out for us. :up:
Why don't you look it up in "The sun" or other tabloids? Is there no information on this in England?
The S.A./english mutation is called the english virus over here :03:

Reece
03-31-21, 02:13 AM
Slovak Russia's Sputnik V vaccine. You gotta love the name!! :har:

Skybird
03-31-21, 08:07 AM
I just have read that Denmark still has AZ vaccine un der a full ban. They still do not use it, for nobody. Finland, Iceland and Sweden recommend to use it only for older people. French women under the age of 55 do not get it.

Another AZ-thrombosis death in Germany.

Moonlight
03-31-21, 08:21 AM
Why don't you look it up in "The sun" or other tabloids? Is there no information on this in England?
The S.A./english mutation is called the english virus over here :03:

Oh that's a wonderful name Catfish, how original. :haha:
When it comes down to calling this virus by different names we around our way are calling the China virus currently rampaging throughout the EU 27 states by a lot fruitier names than that bollocks. :haha:

Skybird
03-31-21, 08:22 AM
A study in the US with over 2200 young people between 12 and 15 years shows that the Biontech/Pfizer vaccine gives full protection for younger ages, too.

Jimbuna
03-31-21, 09:32 AM
Germany restricts use of AstraZeneca vaccine to over 60s in most cases.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-restricts-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-to-over-60s-in-most-cases/a-57049301



Funny that (not in haha) but initially it was banned for the over 65's :doh:

Jimbuna
03-31-21, 09:38 AM
But German media tear their mouths open and criticise that Johnson has not enough doses to allow a second jab (or so they claim). Typical German. Adn destracting from one's own miserable failure.

They should look at this 'propaganda' because I believe there are strong elements of truth within it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeeypRk83xQ

Jimbuna
03-31-21, 09:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FD54-7qc88

Skybird
03-31-21, 09:58 AM
They should look at this 'propaganda' because I believe there are strong elements of truth within it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeeypRk83xQ
I am not surprised one bit by the British reaction. Not one bit. :up:


Its the same like with Western sanctions on Russia leading to increased Russian self autarky in food production, and US sanctions meant to damage China and force it into concessions having China redesigning policies for greater autarky in high tech key production, and greater indep0endency form the US dollar. So far, the Us sancitons have led to right th eopposite of what they were meant to acchieve.



Now the British demonstrate a similiar stubborness to comply with bullying and attempted blackmailing.



Moral of the sotry: sanctions only have a chance to work if hitting a dependent, weak receiver of sanctions who does not have the means to adapt or to strike back, and is too weak to ever reach a status of autarky.

mapuc
03-31-21, 11:58 AM
When a person change nationality s/he becomes lesser infectious.

I'm not kidding.

A few days ago I had a chat with my cousin from Sweden and he said that many Danes who live in Sweden and work in Denmark, has chosen to change nationality-Because as a Swedish citizens you do not need to stay in quarantine for 10 days after they have been outside the country.

So a person Danish, German or Norwegian who is infected, will infect lesser if this person change nationality to Swedish.

Markus

Jimbuna
03-31-21, 12:27 PM
"As restrictions lift and the weather improves, we cannot drop our guard," Public Health England medical director Dr Yvonne Doyle says
"We're not out of the woods yet," she warns as thousands enjoy warm weather in outdoor spaces, prompting social distancing concerns.

Many areas have seen a sunny week so far - coinciding with England easing some restrictions.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock warns people not to "blow it" by breaching coronavirus guidelines.

Two parks in Nottingham are closed by the council after "appalling scenes" of crowds drinking and brawling earlier in the week.

Outdoor pubs and restaurants can reopen on 26 April as long as coronavirus rates remain low, the Welsh government has said.

Pfizer says US trials of its Covid vaccine in children aged 12-15 show 100% efficacy.

Northern Ireland's coronavirus vaccination programme has been opened up to people aged from 45 to 49

Glastonbury organisers announce plans for a livestream from Worthy Farm, after the festival was cancelled for a second year.

Jimbuna
03-31-21, 12:32 PM
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Moonlight
03-31-21, 02:55 PM
French president Emmanuel Macron announces nationwide Covid-19 lockdown, warning: ‘We will lose control if we do not move now’
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/french-president-emmanuel-macron-announces-nationwide-covid-19-lockdown-warning-we-will-lose-control-if-we-do-not-move-now/ar-BB1fa1cw?ocid=msedgntp

You should have done it weeks ago you thick pillock.:o

mapuc
03-31-21, 03:52 PM
All these lockdowns will not help-It may decrease the spread of the disease, but not stop it.

There will ALWAYS be people who for many reason will break any restriction rules.

The virus keep on mutate.

Markus

Catfish
03-31-21, 04:19 PM
They should look at this 'propaganda' because I believe there are strong elements of truth within it. [...]
Not me. From where do you get information apart fom this, and did you read any of what i quoted or wrote here (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2739099&postcount=6771)?

In fact the export data shows Britain to be the biggest importer of doses produced in the E.U.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/10/world/europe/eu-exports-covid-vaccine.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/britain-has-no-ban-on-covid-vaccine-exports-eu-concedes

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-vonderleyen-idUSKBN2AP2RS

And this is what REALLY happens! The whole world has seen what Johnson did, the bullying, brazenness and accusations, what do you say about all the EU vaccine exports to the UK?
Really, i find this unbelievable.

Moonlight
03-31-21, 04:35 PM
@Mapuc, Ultimately this is the fault of politicians and there medical advisors from all over the world who have not come up with a better plan than a bleeding Lockdown.

Many years ago you could have relied on some input from the World Health Organisation but they're too busy absolving China of any blame and letting the Chinese try and foist it on some other innocent country. :o

I wonder who is eventually going to be blamed for it?, my best guess would be a country who has already had a diplomatic row with China over this virus. :O:

@Catfish, were you like this with the UK before Brexit or is it since we voted to go our own way that's made you into a UK bashing crackpot?, bloody calm down man or you'll do yourself some medical damage, I've heard yoga is good for you, try holding your breath for a minute, or even better, until you faint. :haha:

Skybird
03-31-21, 06:13 PM
Not me. From where do you get information apart fom this, and did you read any of what i quoted or wrote here (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2739099&postcount=6771)?

In fact the export data shows Britain to be the biggest importer of doses produced in the E.U.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/10/world/europe/eu-exports-covid-vaccine.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/britain-has-no-ban-on-covid-vaccine-exports-eu-concedes

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-vonderleyen-idUSKBN2AP2RS

And this is what REALLY happens! The whole world has seen what Johnson did, the bullying, brazenness and accusations, what do you say about all the EU vaccine exports to the UK?
Really, i find this unbelievable.
What is unbelievable in - that whatever the Brits do, it works? Half of their people have the stuff in their arms, and their data analysts can prove now that the high rate of vaccination is responsible for their downward tendency in cases. That trend now is empirically valid, and verified. It was a race against the EU, and they won it clearly and with a great lead. And I think this itches you terribly! :)



It works.

Imagine how many billions and billions, doezns and in the end hundreds of billions it could have saved us, Germany, if our government would have been this efficient, too, so that we could save many, many weeks of lockdowns!

That others were ot up to playing him, is not Johnson's fault. He did what a state government had to do to serve its people to which it is accountable. And after that lousy a start!

Germany is busy with shooting itself in the foot again and again and again and again and again. Its like a sketch by Laurel and Hardy where the joke lies in the repetition.

Catfish
04-01-21, 02:55 AM
@Mapuc, Ultimately this is the fault of politicians and there medical advisors from all over the world who have not come up with a better plan than a bleeding Lockdown.
No, it is everyone's fault, after all someone voted for the existing politicians in the government.

Lockdown is the only thing that helps if you have no vaccine. When all this started last year in march there was no vaccine, and it was not known at the time how fast someone could come up with one, if at all.
@Catfish, were you like this with the UK before Brexit or is it since we voted to go our own way that's made you into a UK bashing crackpot?, bloody calm down man or you'll do yourself some medical damage, I've heard yoga is good for you, try holding your breath for a minute, or even better, until you faint. :haha:First i have a problem with England, or better its nationalistic neophytes, not with the UK. You like to make it look as if there was a row with the UK. But England decides and does it all for Wales, Scotland, Ireland. The latter can try, and do, and want what they want, but in this constellation they will never get their ideas through. They only have an equal status in theory.

Yes, indeed i am quite open to international relations of all kinds, travelling, studying, working (also in the UK), and after brexit (along with the Trump election) i have found a fallback and fail on all important things, from trade to scientific interchange, to freedom, to improve things like workers rights and "humane" behaviour and cooperation internationally, to democracy.
Instead there's now a war of words, distrust, military posing and bragging. Not from the EU b.t.w.. which is the reason why Russia hates it; a multipolar world with single nationalist states with their diversion, aggression, and where everyone looks for his own petty advantage is much easier to manipulate and deal with. Same for the Murdoch type.

Brexit is indeed a fallback in dark times, you may not see this now but it clearly will some years from now. It effectively ruins the future of the young generation, and you are back to petty nationalism, jingoism and xenophobia. It may have been there all the time, but with the right-wing swingaround five years ago, in the new atmosphere of hate and denigration all the usual SA types have extended their heads out of the ground.

I'm quite relaxed when it comes to vaccinating, campaign is making good now and even this Astra-Zeneca problem will not slow it down.

What i despise is e.g. some clown like Boris bragging about how well he pirated from others for his own political standing at home, depending on the nationalist idiots he does not even like. He was against brexit, then he supported it, rode on the cheating bus and won an election over it.. there is a reason why John le Carrée called him a mob orator.
Johnson brags how well he personally (lmao) did it all, what about the situation a year agon when Johnson heavily relied on EU vaccines (german Biontech), and the EU delivered? Something he does not want to give back, or even acknowledge? And then he has the nerve and brags just of all about the EU's failing of international cooperation? :rotfl2:

Again: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/10/world/europe/eu-exports-covid-vaccine.html

See the face of brexit and english jingoism is Rees-Mogg, Farage and Johnson. Add Ann Widdecombe and all that. This is quite an ugly crew.


And if you swing along with Skybird, be careful what you wish for. What he really promotes is the EU acting like England, towards England. And maybe it should, but you may not like it.

Skybird
04-01-21, 03:44 AM
In alliances, especially the weaker members tend to doze off. Competition strenghten states, since they must become and remain competitive.


Practically all of Euopes traditional strengths in past centuries, stem from needing to compete and to compensate for own deficits in other sectors, caused by geographical isolation of regions. The likes of the Swiss havung no ressources to barter with, and so needing to export first military skill, then intellectual capability resulting in skills in for example engineering skills.



Greece allowed to get itself financed over decades by the superpower usa and nato, due to its geopolitical relevance. It did not form economic competence, being lulled by the easy money income. And so they did not form any exportable skills, like the Swiss - because noboy cared for and needed the Swiss.


The Euro drama and collectivization of debts are textbook examples. Now that euro bonds and state financing will come this way or the other, even if Stupigermany must change its cnstituion for allowing it, certain states will bdcome even more irresponsibly wasting funds. Like Germany irresponsibly cuts down its defences.
You also said lockdowns are the only solution if you have no vaccine. Technic ally that is not correct, a lockdown is no solution since it heals nothing and only extends the duration of th e pandemic on the time scale, at the cost of increasing the economic costs. You only hope to avoid an overwhelming of the health sector. The only solution is immunity, either by herd immunity (takes years) or vaccination (takes shorter, except in Stupigermany...)

Moonlight
04-01-21, 10:42 AM
There may be a lot of trouble ahead for Mighty Mouth Macron, politically, financially and more importantly personally, the dickheads going to pay for this mess he's created with his constant dithering and his political rivals will be scenting his blood. :haha:
You can bet Marine le Pen couldn't have asked for a more inept response to this China virus than what Macron's delivered up to now, I think it's going to cost the braindead pillock dearly. :haha:

Macron can't bear France being bailed out again by his hated Britain PAUL BALDWIN
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/macron-can-t-bear-france-being-bailed-out-again-by-his-hated-britain-paul-baldwin/ar-BB1fcqNn?ocid=msedgntp

French economy faces €15bn hit after Macron’s lockdown U-turn
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/french-economy-faces-15bn-hit-after-macron-s-lockdown-u-turn/ar-BB1fcHDU?ocid=msedgntp

Macron's 'Waterloo'? French president comes under attack for lockdown U-turn
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/macron-s-waterloo-french-president-comes-under-attack-for-lockdown-u-turn/ar-BB1fd4A0?ocid=msedgntp

Skybird
04-01-21, 10:44 AM
Germany will pay for it, dont worry.

That was always Macronman's plan.

The German Constitutional High Court may currently block the Eurobonds, but that is just temportary, and Germany in the end will pay for it, no matter what. If need be, they will change the German constitution for allowing that. And the next government from autumn on most likely will see the green Reds and the redder Reds in government. And for these, there is nothing more beautiful than collectivising European debts and foreign state financing at the Germans' expenses.

Skybird
04-01-21, 11:21 AM
Mood in Germany completely tipped - record displeasure with the pandemic management.

National elections in Germany this Septembre.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article229598003/Deutschlandtrend-Rekord-Unmut-ueber-das-Corona-Management.html

https://s18.directupload.net/images/210401/g4zpmhhr.png (https://www.directupload.net)


And if the Merkel party dares to make Merkel's chatter-boy Laschet the candidate, they do not even have to run for election. Even with a CSU runner Söder, their chances are thin.

Moonlight
04-01-21, 11:33 AM
First i have a problem with England, or better its nationalistic neophytes, not with the UK. You like to make it look as if there was a row with the UK. But England decides and does it all for Wales, Scotland, Ireland. The latter can try, and do, and want what they want, but in this constellation they will never get their ideas through. They only have an equal status in theory.

I hope Scotland get another vote for their independence and win it as well, and that goes for Wales and Northern Ireland too, England will be well rid of them in my opinion, once they leave the union the government must warn them that there is no chance of re-joining.....Ever.
When they have to stand on their own two feet without being able to use the English taxpayer as a bleeding cash cow that's when the reality of independence is going to hit them, a kick in those Scottish Nationalists nether regions will be the least of their worries when the financial implications start to bite home.

The godsends of all godsends in all of that ^ is that Scottish Blackclock bastard and the rest of his cronies will be gone from Westminster. :haha:

Jimbuna
04-01-21, 12:55 PM
Not me. From where do you get information apart fom this, and did you read any of what i quoted or wrote here (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2739099&postcount=6771)?

In fact the export data shows Britain to be the biggest importer of doses produced in the E.U.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/10/world/europe/eu-exports-covid-vaccine.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/britain-has-no-ban-on-covid-vaccine-exports-eu-concedes

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-vonderleyen-idUSKBN2AP2RS

And this is what REALLY happens! The whole world has seen what Johnson did, the bullying, brazenness and accusations, what do you say about all the EU vaccine exports to the UK?
Really, i find this unbelievable.

No mention of the huge sums of money the British Government have invested in the vaccine or the fact Britain continues to export key components to the EU for the AZ vaccine? (if I missed the detail then I apologise)

There is only one party threatening export bans.

Best we don't go into the facts about the huge number of vaccines left lying untouched in the EU because they and they alone dithered over the AstraZeneca br\nd.

Jimbuna
04-01-21, 01:12 PM
Macron can't bear France being bailed out again by his hated Britain PAUL BALDWIN
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/macron-can-t-bear-france-being-bailed-out-again-by-his-hated-britain-paul-baldwin/ar-BB1fcqNn?ocid=msedgntp



Now that article did interest me but be under no illusion, France (for historical reasons over a great many years) and the EU collectively want nothing more than to see the UK struggle now that BREXIT has been achieved.

If I had my way I'd terminate the treaty, stop the divorce payments and have nothing more to do with them.

Back in the day of the EEC the plan was reasonable imho, create a free trade area throughout Europe.

What it has eventually culminated into is a 'monster' state with plans to govern all the other vassal states and everything else contained within.

Heaven only knows what debt the future German generations are going to be lumbered with.

Luckily the UK people won't allow this to happen on our island, we payed enough in finances and the blood of our young twice over and look how the resentment toward us still exists today.

I wonder....did De Gaulle ever pay his board and lodgings bill after we relocated him?

Don't anyone take offence at my rant because it is aimed at anything (you can each decide) other than toward any individuals here :)

Jimbuna
04-01-21, 01:15 PM
I hope Scotland get another vote for their independence and win it as well, and that goes for Wales and Northern Ireland too, England will be well rid of them in my opinion, once they leave the union the government must warn them that there is no chance of re-joining.....Ever.
When they have to stand on their own two feet without being able to use the English taxpayer as a bleeding cash cow that's when the reality of independence is going to hit them, a kick in those Scottish Nationalists nether regions will be the least of their worries when the financial implications start to bite home.

The godsends of all godsends in all of that ^ is that Scottish Blackclock bastard and the rest of his cronies will be gone from Westminster. :haha:

You forgot to mention they will need to create a new currency because the pound sterling is underwritten by the Bank of England seeing as no other current UK banks have the financial clout to do so.

Oh and they don't leave with a clean slate because they can also take their fare share of the national debt.

Jimbuna
04-01-21, 01:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r00Hwu96i1k

Catfish
04-01-21, 02:41 PM
No mention of the huge sums of money the British Government have invested in the vaccine or the fact Britain continues to export key components to the EU for the AZ vaccine? (if I missed the detail then I apologise) There is only one party threatening export bans. [...]

Yes, England does not threaten, it just does not export for reasons of "national security". To be honest i do not know whether the UK delivers key components(?)
I do not know how many England invested in the A-Z vaccine research what is clear is that Germany paid for the Biontech vaccine, not the US (and not the UK).
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-09/pfizer-vaccine-s-funding-came-from-berlin-not-washington

"All those A-Z doses "lying around", i take it that indeed a a lot of people did not want it – partly because of misinformation and the german "Beamtenmentalitaet" :03:

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2021/03/why-are-millions-doses-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccines-lying-unused-eu-countries

https://www.thelocal.de/20210308/why-have-tens-of-thousands-of-germanys-astrazeneca-vaccines-not-been-used/

I do not make any particular non-politician responsible for the fuss, but i admit your Boris is getting on our nerves. :)

Skybird
04-01-21, 03:28 PM
The British paid for the AZ development and then benefitted from having it.
The Germans paid for the Biontech development, and rejected to benefit from it and buying it in significant numbers, and when they did, then late and in lower numbers.

Who are the donkeys here?

The British paid a higher price for the vaccines, and paid it, knowing that this in the end saves them stellar amount of money from leaving lockdowns earlier. Time is of the essence.
The Germans wanted to count peanuts and accepted for that extended monthly costs for lockdowns that are higher than the costs for the vaccination campaign of all the year, calculated on the basis of the highest prices demanded in early stages of the negotitations. That way they in the end will pay multiple times a smuch the money they have saved on the vaccines. Not to mentiin the death toll and numbers of infections.

Who are the donkeys here?

The British political leadership gets done the job of getting its population vaccinated.
The German government fails endlessly and miserably in getting done its job of vaccinating the German population.

Who are the donkeys here?

The British have risen and still raise their competitiveness in the globla arena, and form interesting alliances (of which the Germans have nothing better to say than that they cannot function).
The EU and the Germans sleepwalk around cluelessly, loose productivity, chase talent away, and scare away intellectual creativity, raise levels of suffocating overregulation ever more, and hold moral lectures on solidarity and Bla and Bla and Blablabla.

Who are the donkeys here?

The British stand up against China, like the Australians before them, and the Americans. The EU and its members leave them alone on that stand, try to arrange themselves smoothly with it, not upsetting China, and seriously dreaming of influencing the Chinese by doing trade. Instead their interests get sold out more and more and China more and more plows them under.

Who are the donkeys here?

And the Germans have lost patience,

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2739739&postcount=6810

and are sick and tired of this year-long uninterrupted display of incompetence, bureaucratism and dilettantism. The German federalistic political system has found its limits, additional to the incompetence and narcissism of the actors. The way things are being run over here is not even just laughable anymore. Its simply is embarassing. Bräsig bis zum Geht-nicht-mehr. Doof zum Herzerweichen.

Moonlight
04-01-21, 04:21 PM
It will all unravel later this year when Merkel steps down, if Germany can get their act together they could even have most if not all of their citizens inoculated by then, it could even be a vote winner in the September election.

As for Macron, he's in big trouble, he's going to have to seriously up his game if he hopes to win next years election, this China virus debacle is going to cost him votes and lots of them.

Skybird
04-01-21, 06:21 PM
BBC:


"Vaccines present our best way out of this pandemic... However, the rollout of these vaccines is unacceptably slow" and is prolonging the pandemic in the wider Europe region, WHO director for Europe Hans Kluge said in a statement (https://www.euro.who.int/en/media-centre/sections/press-releases/2021/slow-vaccine-roll-out-prolonging-pandemic).


"We must speed up the process by ramping up manufacturing, reducing barriers to administering vaccines, and using every single vial we have in stock, now," he added.


In the meantime, as long as vaccine coverage remained low, he said EU countries would have to impose lockdowns and other measures to compensate for the delays.


Hu. Obvious. Still, somebody should tell the geniusses in Berlin and Brussel. One cannot just take it for certain that they already have gotten it. I mean Super-Uschi is still in office, isn't she. If she had any sense of responsiblity, she would have stepped down by now - or would have been chased away.

Moonlight
04-02-21, 06:17 AM
EU’RE TO BLAME! UK taxpayers pumped £21MILLION into Dutch AstraZeneca vaccine factory in EU jab war as the Netherlands refused to invest

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14524544/holland-refused-invest-astrazeneca-vaccine-plant-eu-jab-war/

Skybird
04-02-21, 08:46 AM
In a report, the UK's Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) now also admits a number of 30 thrombosis cases in the UK.

As it is tradition now with Astra Zeneca since early trials over one year, the unwanted news was tried to be kept hidden as long as possible.

America's Fauci meanwhile said he is confident that the United States will have enough doses of other vaccines and will not need to fall back to the AZ vaccine "even if it would get licensed for use" (in the US, which apparently it currently is not).


German authorities recommend that those who got their first AZ jab, will get the second jab with another vaccine.

Catfish
04-02-21, 10:02 AM
Who are the donkeys here? [...]
The EU! Get your act together and retaliate :arrgh!: :O:

mapuc
04-02-21, 10:35 AM
Who's to blame !?

It will be those, who due to my personal standpoints, will be in line of fire...tomorrow it may be some others.

I don't care if I'm aiming wrongfully-My standpoints is clear.

Markus

Jimbuna
04-02-21, 11:24 AM
I do not make any particular non-politician responsible for the fuss, but i admit your Boris is getting on our nerves. :)

If I'm to be totally honest here, he is having the same effect on a great many here in the UK also :)

Jimbuna
04-02-21, 11:25 AM
EU’RE TO BLAME! UK taxpayers pumped £21MILLION into Dutch AstraZeneca vaccine factory in EU jab war as the Netherlands refused to invest

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14524544/holland-refused-invest-astrazeneca-vaccine-plant-eu-jab-war/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zykOiUN2Wbc

Jimbuna
04-02-21, 11:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxIIjQqSgkA

Jimbuna
04-02-21, 12:06 PM
Kenya, Pakistan, Bangladesh and the Philippines are being added to England's travel ban "red list"

It means travellers from those countries will be banned from entering England from 9 April.

The coronavirus reproduction number, or R value, in England is between 0.8 and 1, latest figures show.

Last week the whole of the UK had an estimated R figure of between 0.7 and 0.9

Another 52 deaths within 28 days of a positive coronavirus test have been recorded in the UK

More than 70 MPs have launched a campaign opposing Covid passports in England, amid reports of pilots to test how they would work.

Indian cricket legend Sachin Tendulkar, who tested positive for Covid-19 last week, has been admitted to hospital.

The stay at home rule which has been in place in Scotland for more than three months has been lifted.

West End theatres and Glastonbury Festival are among those getting a share of £400m emergency government culture funding.

Jimbuna
04-02-21, 12:20 PM
Ukraine’s Covid crisis has deepened with record numbers of infections and deaths reported this morning. Health Minister Maksym Stepanov says 433 people died in the past 24 hours and 19,893 new cases were reported. The capital Kyiv has imposed a strict lockdown.

French schools close later today for at least three weeks as stricter anti-Covid measures start kicking in across the country. Secondary schools will shut for four weeks, although two of those include France’s spring holiday. A new opinion poll suggests seven out of 10 people back the decision to go into a new national lockdown tomorrow night which is looser than last year.

Most EU countries have agreed a complicated formula to give 2.85 million extra BioNTech-Pfizer vaccines to five struggling countries, including Bulgaria, Croatia and Slovakia. Austria, Slovenia and the Czech Republic objected to the deal. Austria’s Sebastian Kurz has criticised what he sees as uneven distribution of vaccines.

A Serbian anti-vaccination campaigner was questioned by police yesterday on suspicion of spreading panic through social media posts and media appearances. Jovana Stojkovic has been in trouble before for posting misleading information.

A baby has been born on Spain’s Balearic island of Ibiza with Covid antibodies after his mother was vaccinated in the final three months of her pregnancy. Baby Bruno’s umbilical cord was tested for antibodies after he was born. Meanwhile, a million Oxford-AstraZeneca doses will be distributed across Spain this morning to enable vaccinations to continue throughout Easter week.

Greece starts easing restrictions on movement from tomorrow with retail opening up from Monday. Schools will start opening up again on 12 April.

Jimbuna
04-02-21, 12:27 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/5ybbrKxw/111.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/hvscR8jN/222.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/Wpw2ZVnS/333.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/QdHsvTrn/444.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Mr Quatro
04-02-21, 07:13 PM
Heard some new rumors so I checked them out

1. That the first shot has proven to combat Covid-19 for fifty percent of the people from the virus.

2. That he second shot is of course more effective, but takes two weeks to kick in for it's full effectiveness.

3. If you recover from having contacted Covid-19 the immunity can last up to 6 months.

4. The second shot has more side effects than the second shot

5. Here's the alarming news they don't know how long the vaccine will last and it could be like the flu shots that we have to take every year.

Hello November is six months later for me I get mine next week.


https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/coronavirus-how-long-does-immunity-last-after-covid-19-vaccine/RIMEAWEUWRE6PG6CT4KZEN2NYE/

According to a study in the British Medical Journal, it’s believed that by some researchers that vaccines being used now will provide protection that could last for some time.



Duh! :hmmm:

Another study cited by Aungst suggests that immunity could wear off quickly and require yearly shots to boost protection.

Jimbuna
04-03-21, 12:36 PM
AstraZeneca: Is there a blood clot risk?

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56594189

Jimbuna
04-03-21, 12:37 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/xCFf9txw/111.png (https://postimg.cc/PpYs4zky)

Rockstar
04-03-21, 01:04 PM
AstraZeneca: Is there a blood clot risk?

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56594189




Meh, seems like Merkel and von der whats her name are acting out like a bunch of anti-science, anti-vaxxer whiners. Terrible leadership, letting thousands die because of politics, the famed euro arrogance and egos.

mapuc
04-03-21, 01:46 PM
As mentioned some pages back I had a long chat with my cousin from Sweden.
What I forgot to tell you was that he had an infection-covid back in December 2020.

Asked him how severe it was. He said it was like a good old influenza with high fever, pain in every muscle and extremely tired.

I asked him about this famous side effect off this infection loosing smell and taste.
He said I didn't exactly loose my taste-it changed, things tasted differently and my smelling senses was never gone.

I said in a scale from 1-10, where 1 is almost no affect and 10 is laying in a respirator-He said he was 5-6.

He gets furious when he read conspiracy and/or fake comments.

As he said I have had Covid-19 I was knocked-out for about a week. So there's no doubt it does exist.

He also said(Which I approve)
We can discuss the measure our politicians and our authorities decide, if they are correct or not.

Markus

Jimbuna
04-04-21, 05:38 AM
Meh, seems like Merkel and von der whats her name are acting out like a bunch of anti-science, anti-vaxxer whiners. Terrible leadership, letting thousands die because of politics, the famed euro arrogance and egos.

Yet another reason I'm pleased we are out of the EU

Jimbuna
04-04-21, 05:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnyVInblipE

Jimbuna
04-04-21, 05:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EinK845Twgs

Jimbuna
04-04-21, 05:49 AM
Pilot events will start to try out measures like testing and ventilation to see if they can be safe in the pandemic.

It's hoped the moves will allow the safe return of sports matches, conferences and club nights in England.

The Carabao Cup final between Tottenham and Manchester City will have 8,000 fans in attendance as one test event.

The UK PM and Labour leader have both talked about the pandemic in their Easter messages.

The Archbishop of Canterbury's says people can choose a "better future for all" as the country emerges from the pandemic.

The pandemic is disrupting Easter in eastern Europe, where cases are surging.

France has entered its third national lockdown in a bid to bring down infections.

Jimbuna
04-04-21, 05:57 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/4ythnBLS/111.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Mr Quatro
04-04-21, 07:00 PM
You should think twice before laminating your vaccine card

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/you-should-think-twice-before-laminating-your-vaccine-card/ar-BB1fhWtu?ocid=BingNews


Double check your information


If you are getting a two-dose vaccine, make sure that you receive and document both doses on your card before laminating it.

Double check all of your information -- including your name, date of birth, and the date and location of the vaccine -- for accuracy.


Seriously, stop sharing your vaccine cards on social media

Make sure you have a backup

You should definitely create a backup of your card before laminating it.

Dr. Leana Wen, an emergency physician and public health professor at George Washington University, told CNN that she recommends taking a photo of the card after each dose.

"Take a picture after getting the first shot, then after the second one too, in case you lose the physical card," she said. "Keep the picture on your phone, and email yourself a copy to be safe."

Jimbuna
04-05-21, 04:50 AM
Everyone in England is to be given access to two rapid coronavirus tests a week from Friday, under an extension of the government's testing programme.

The lateral flow kits, which can provide results in around 30 minutes, will be available for free at testing sites, pharmacies and through the post.

The health secretary said it would help squash any outbreaks as lockdown eases.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56632084

Jimbuna
04-05-21, 05:03 AM
Boris Johnson is due to chair a meeting of the cabinet later to sign off the next stage of lockdown easing in England.

Later, the PM will hold a briefing, where he is expected to confirm countries will be graded under a traffic light system when international leisure travel resumes.

Hairdressers, homeware shops and garden centres are reopening in Scotland as Covid restrictions on the economy have eased.

India has recorded its highest number yet of coronavirus infections in a single day, with 103,558 confirmed cases.

Portugal is entering its second phase of rolling back restrictions, with museums, cafe terraces and some schools reopening.

Rollout of a new school curriculum in Wales must be delayed so teachers can focus on helping pupils in the wake of the pandemic, a union says.

In Greece, meanwhile, some shops have been allowed to reopen today, despite concerns over high case numbers. Restrictions will still be in place, with shoppers required to pre-book appointments and limits on numbers allowed inside shops. The changes will not apply to areas with higher infection rates, including in the Athens and three northern regions.

In Germany, there are concerns over increasing infections, as the number of patients in intensive care reached its highest level since the beginning of February. Around a half of the 4,000 people in intensive care are being ventilated, according to figures released on Sunday.

Separately, the German government has added the Netherlands to a list of high-risk countries due to its rising number of cases. The new rules - which already apply to the Czech Republic, France and Poland - mean that travellers arriving in Germany from Tuesday will have to show a negative test and observe 10 days of quarantine.

Catfish
04-05-21, 10:23 AM
A sidenote

The Antiscience Movement Is Escalating, Going Global and Killing Thousands (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-antiscience-movement-is-escalating-going-global-and-killing-thousands/)

Jimbuna
04-05-21, 01:21 PM
UK PM Boris Johnson confirms non-essential retail can reopen and restaurants allowed to serve outdoors from 12 April.

Gyms and spas, as well as zoos and theme parks, can also reopen on the same date.

Johnson says the public's patience is "paying off", but warns against complacency in the face of rising cases in mainland Europe.

The PM says the UK is "hopeful" international travel can resume from 17 May, but there are difficulties around "importing" virus variants.

Hairdressers, homeware shops and garden centres are reopening in Scotland as Covid restrictions on the economy have eased.

Jimbuna
04-05-21, 01:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mtJg-l5OUI

Jimbuna
04-05-21, 01:30 PM
The UK has recorded a further 26 deaths within 28 days of a positive test, along with 2,762 new cases.

The number of deaths recorded tends to be lower over weekends and at the start of the week because of reporting delays.

https://i.postimg.cc/VLWZgVRc/111.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Skybird
04-06-21, 05:04 AM
The EMA follows the example of several states and officially confirms a causal link between AZ's vaccine and brain thromboses.

Late.

Again.

Jimbuna
04-06-21, 06:34 AM
Non-essential retail, gyms and spas can reopen from 12 April in England, with restaurants allowed to serve outdoors.

Suggestions the UK could introduce Covid certificates proving someone's had a vaccine, tested negative or has immunity have led to criticism.

But Vaccines Minister Nadhim Zahawi says the UK is looking at all options and any plans to adopt certificates will be brought before Parliament.

The Moderna vaccine will be available in the UK "around the third week of April", Zahawi confirms.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is giving an update on lockdown easing in Scotland.

Secondary schools in Scotland will reopen full time as planned after the Easter holidays, Sturgeon says.

Captain Sir Tom Moore's family are encouraging people to take up their own "100" challenge on what would have been his 101st birthday.

Australian and New Zealand residents will be able to travel between the two nations without having to quarantine from 19 April.

North Korea has announced it will not take part in the Olympics this year, saying the decision is to protect its athletes from Covid-19

Jimbuna
04-06-21, 06:40 AM
The first phase of reopening has begun in Denmark, with hairdressers and tattooists back at work and some children’s age groups back at school. Key to the reopening is a negative test and test centres have been very busy in the run-up to reopening. So-called corona passports will also become very important in the coming weeks.

Several European countries are giving their vaccine campaigns a post-Easter boost from this morning. The Stade de France in Paris, known for legendary sporting clashes on the pitch, has opened this morning with the aim of providing 10,000 vaccinations a week. It’s one of more than 35 so called vaccinodromes that are aimed at ramping up the vaccine campaign. Latest figures show 9.3 million first doses have already been given in France. But hospital cases are still rising.

Germany’s network of 35,000 family doctors is getting involved too this week. So far the country's vaccination campaign has been limited to 430 special centres. Meanwhile, the south-western state of Saarland is beginning its exit from lockdown even though cases are still rising. Outdoor gatherings and outdoor café visits are allowed as well as contact sports with a negative test.

Italy is also aiming to speed up its vaccination campaign, with more than eight million vaccine doses expected to arrive this month alone. Prime Minister Mario Draghi has set an eventual target of half a million vaccinations a day.

Portugal's president, Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, last night hailed the second phase of lockdown easing as a "historic day". All but the largest on-street shops were allowed to open along with cafés and restaurants serving customers outside.

Spain’s health minister says 11 or 12 regions are seeing a clear upward trend in infection, particularly Catalonia and Navarre in the north and Ceuta on the African mainland. This month is seen as key to pushing the vaccine campaign and retired doctors and nurses are being enlisted in many areas to take part.

mapuc
04-06-21, 08:17 AM
The first phase of reopening has begun in Denmark, with hairdressers and tattooists back at work and some children’s age groups back at school. Key to the reopening is a negative test and test centres have been very busy in the run-up to reopening. So-called corona passports will also become very important in the coming weeks.


Err this rule about showing a negative test, which is a quick test is hilarious.

On several occasion test has shown that these quick test is not to be trusted- around 50 % positive is in fact negative-around 20-25 % negative is in fact positive.

So a Dane could have an infection, but his quick test show negative.

Markus

3catcircus
04-06-21, 09:03 AM
Err this rule about showing a negative test, which is a quick test is hilarious.

On several occasion test has shown that these quick test is not to be trusted- around 50 % positive is in fact negative-around 20-25 % negative is in fact positive.

So a Dane could have an infection, but his quick test show negative.

Markus

Does it really matter? What I'm getting at is this hysteria over asymptomatic carriers when there has never been any evidence that they are a significant source of infection. I'd ask if we've ever taken the same approach for other viruses to such an extent. We didn't try and test everyone regardless of whether or not they showed symptoms over the past couple of years when we had epidemic levels of flu infections with a significant number of deaths. I don't think we've ever bothered testing asymptomatic carriers of other viruses known to cause ILI when we know a good portion of those infected then develop pneumonia and die.

I would not be surprised if we ever found out that the number of people infected and dying from other respiratory viruses each year is actually on par with covid except we've just never bothered to try and test everyone like we are now - especially if they don't have a vaccine like flu or measles.

Jimbuna
04-06-21, 01:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6NQujwh3X0

Jimbuna
04-06-21, 01:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCAvvZXUW08

Jimbuna
04-06-21, 01:55 PM
A trial of the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid vaccine on children has stopped giving out jabs while the UK's medicines regulator investigates a possible link with rare blood clots in adults.

Prof Andrew Pollard from the University of Oxford told the BBC there were no safety concerns with the trial itself, but its scientists were waiting for further information.

Around 300 volunteers signed up.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56656356

Buddahaid
04-06-21, 02:41 PM
Does it really matter? What I'm getting at is this hysteria over asymptomatic carriers when there has never been any evidence that they are a significant source of infection. I'd ask if we've ever taken the same approach for other viruses to such an extent. We didn't try and test everyone regardless of whether or not they showed symptoms over the past couple of years when we had epidemic levels of flu infections with a significant number of deaths. I don't think we've ever bothered testing asymptomatic carriers of other viruses known to cause ILI when we know a good portion of those infected then develop pneumonia and die.

I would not be surprised if we ever found out that the number of people infected and dying from other respiratory viruses each year is actually on par with covid except we've just never bothered to try and test everyone like we are now - especially if they don't have a vaccine like flu or measles.

That does nothing in explaining excess deaths above predicted deaths that have been recorded during a time when seasonal flu has been suppressed by Covid 19 sanitation measures.

3catcircus
04-06-21, 06:12 PM
That does nothing in explaining excess deaths above predicted deaths that have been recorded during a time when seasonal flu has been suppressed by Covid 19 sanitation measures.

You're right. How *do* you explain that masks and social distancing that we were told works for covid didn't actually flatten the number of infections this cold and flu season but it did for flu? That is - if the argument is that measures taken for covid stopped the flu, then why didn't it stop covid? We got a large peak of covid right where you'd expect it to occur during cold and flu season.

A better theory is viral competition with flu getting beat out by covid. More importantly, we have evidence that rhinoviruses actually picked up and adenoviruses held steady in terms of infections ass compared to last year's season.

Lastly, experts are now saying that covid19 will be endemic every year, just like all of the other coronaviruses that have become widespread (such as the one scientists believe was the actual cause of the 1889 Russian flu pandemic and is now just another common cold virus).

Our global health hysteria has negatively affected our natural immune systems' abilities to adapt and fight infectious intruders because people in lockdowns and masks aren't continually exposed to things.

No one really thinks about it, but on a daily basis before this panic, most people were exposed to many different pathogens that the immune system takes care of - it off like the rest of your body - it needs exercise.

Catfish
04-07-21, 01:29 AM
"Brazil COVID-19 deaths on track to pass worst of U.S. wave"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brazil/a-biological-fukushima-brazil-covid-19-deaths-on-track-to-pass-worst-of-u-s-wave-idUSKBN2BT30P

Skybird
04-07-21, 02:32 AM
Wearing face masks reduces the risk of infection when being in situations where exposition could take place. The level to which they do, varies with the kind of mask. A layer of nylon stockings protects less than a FFP3/KN100 mask.

This is proven fact, no debate about it, period and full stop. Its deniers fact-twisting to claim otherwise. We have such obscure websites in German, too, I know what bollocks is written and claimed there its the same kind of brain breed that says we should not vaccinate against Polio and mumps and let nature have its ways with both. It was and remains to be bollocks meant to spread doubts on the basis of undefendable "alternative facts".

When numbers still go up, then this is because none of these masks gives 100% protection, either due to material weakness, or due to the wearer wearing them wrong or intentionally heedless to demonstrate what a tough ape he/she is, or not wearing them where he should wear them.

Have everybody people wearing masks that seal their breathing air from contamination by 100% (no such respiratory mask - meaning it uses external air, no independent tank with breathing oxygene like a diver - is known), and have them running proper hand and object/surface hygience: and the pandemic would be over since long. But such perfect behaviour to expect by everybody, is unrealistic. And accidents can and will happen.

Does this nonsense talking about masks doing nothing never ends? :doh: Its garbage, it always was garbage, and it will always remain to be garbage. Its intention always was just destraction, spreading doubt, and causing unrest.

True is only this: the mask

- is only as good as the material it is made of,
- as good as the way in which it is worn,

- as good as compliance with the adequate instances when it should be worn,
- and as good as keepign proper hygeineics control with the used mask itself.

And if people wear them sloppily, or use bad materials, or do not wear them at all, or take greater risks in social situations because they think by wearing a mask they are 100% safe, then they will not prevent infections in case of exposition. And when some idiots or unknowing stupids do not mind and do not care or anything, this hardly can be an argument for the general public not to reduce its risks but to go "all in".



Clear also is, a residual risk remains, masks do not provide 100% protection. The residual risks adds up the more other risk - social situation risking exposition - get sought and get not avoided. We have seen it across the globe, time and again: where they have run draconic lockdowns for extended time, numbers went steeply down, because while a lockdown is not economically nice, it is quite total in avoiding social contacts. And where lockdowns have not been run with the needed drastic consequence, and have had too many exceptions allowed, and had not be run long enough, numbers hardly were effected for long.


Stop the drivel now. It so awfully tiresome.

Catfish
04-07-21, 03:39 AM
https://i.imgur.com/3JUYkiV.jpg

Skybird
04-07-21, 12:25 PM
Maybe "schizophrenia" should be added to the list of possible side effects of the AZ vaccine. while the UK today has limited the use of the vaccine to above 30 yr. old, EMA has reiterated it recommends the vaccine for everybody. Add to this the ever chnagign assessments on the vaccine by different nations, namely Germany.

If something is so disputed and triggers so contradicting, time-phased and diverse actions, I do not want to have anything to do with it anymore. Even more when reclaling that the comoany tried to nice-talk early problems in spring last year already, and since then ever again.

Trust is gone, I will not trust AZ's vaccine anymore, and politicians' babbling does not interest me anyway. If that means I will wait longer in the end, so be it.

Jimbuna
04-07-21, 12:30 PM
Under-30s are to be offered an alternative Covid jab to the AstraZeneca vaccine, the UK's vaccine advisory body says.

Advice for younger people is changing after an investigation into cases of blood clots in people who have had the jab.

The vaccination programme has been "a most enormous success" but needs a "course correction", Prof Jonathan Van-Tam says.

The blood clots are extremely rare, MHRA chief Dr June Raine says.

"The balance of benefits and known risks of the vaccine is still very favourable for the vast number of people," Dr Raine adds.

People who have had a first Oxford-AZ jab should still be offered the second dose, Prof Wei Shen of the JCVI says.
European regulator the EMA says unusual blood clots with low blood platelets should be listed as very rare side effects of the vaccine.

Health ministers from the 27 EU member nations are meeting to discuss the findings.

Carer Elle Taylor, 24, from Ammanford in Wales is the first person to receive the Moderna vaccine in the UK

Brazil records more than 4,000 Covid-related deaths in a days for first time.

Jimbuna
04-07-21, 12:33 PM
A further 45 deaths have been recorded within 28 days of a positive Covid-19 test. It takes the total by this measure to 126,927.

And there were 2,763 new Covid cases reported.

Meanwhile, another 85,227 have had the first dose of a vaccine and 186,793 more people have received a second jab.

It means a total of 31,707,594 people have now had a first jab in the UK and 5,683,509 have had both doses.

Jimbuna
04-07-21, 12:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3jOB7QN_Yk

Jimbuna
04-07-21, 12:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ju5v4TAaQ

3catcircus
04-07-21, 01:54 PM
Wearing face masks reduces the risk of infection when being in situations where exposition could take place. The level to which they do, varies with the kind of mask. A layer of nylon stockings protects less than a FFP3/KN100 mask.

This is proven fact, no debate about it, period and full stop. Its deniers fact-twisting to claim otherwise. We have such obscure websites in German, too, I know what bollocks is written and claimed there its the same kind of brain breed that says we should not vaccinate against Polio and mumps and let nature have its ways with both. It was and remains to be bollocks meant to spread doubts on the basis of undefendable "alternative facts".

When numbers still go up, then this is because none of these masks gives 100% protection, either due to material weakness, or due to the wearer wearing them wrong or intentionally heedless to demonstrate what a tough ape he/she is, or not wearing them where he should wear them.

Have everybody people wearing masks that seal their breathing air from contamination by 100% (no such respiratory mask - meaning it uses external air, no independent tank with breathing oxygene like a diver - is known), and have them running proper hand and object/surface hygience: and the pandemic would be over since long. But such perfect behaviour to expect by everybody, is unrealistic. And accidents can and will happen.

Does this nonsense talking about masks doing nothing never ends? :doh: Its garbage, it always was garbage, and it will always remain to be garbage. Its intention always was just destraction, spreading doubt, and causing unrest.

True is only this: the mask

- is only as good as the material it is made of,
- as good as the way in which it is worn,

- as good as compliance with the adequate instances when it should be worn,
- and as good as keepign proper hygeineics control with the used mask itself.

And if people wear them sloppily, or use bad materials, or do not wear them at all, or take greater risks in social situations because they think by wearing a mask they are 100% safe, then they will not prevent infections in case of exposition. And when some idiots or unknowing stupids do not mind and do not care or anything, this hardly can be an argument for the general public not to reduce its risks but to go "all in".



Clear also is, a residual risk remains, masks do not provide 100% protection. The residual risks adds up the more other risk - social situation risking exposition - get sought and get not avoided. We have seen it across the globe, time and again: where they have run draconic lockdowns for extended time, numbers went steeply down, because while a lockdown is not economically nice, it is quite total in avoiding social contacts. And where lockdowns have not been run with the needed drastic consequence, and have had too many exceptions allowed, and had not be run long enough, numbers hardly were effected for long.


Stop the drivel now. It so awfully tiresome.

Being sheeple and just going along with "experts" ultimately helps no one, nor does being a total denier.

You can and should maintain a questioning attitude about *everything* and draw your own conclusions based upon the preponderance of the available scientific evidence, applied with common sense and an understanding of centuries of prior scientific principles that have stood the test of time.

Skybird
04-07-21, 04:19 PM
I do not waste time on keeping a questioning attitude on whether or not a bucket with a hole in the bottom holds the water or not, nor do I need a "sceptical" expert to tell me.

Onkel Neal
04-08-21, 07:19 AM
Now fully vaccinated, I am going to continue on with life as usual now. Knowing people who took few precautions and others who went to church and busily sang hymns with no regard for caution, as my canaries, I'm comfortable that the risk level, although not zero, is low enough to ease up.

Skybird
04-08-21, 08:40 AM
I never would have thought that Neal has canaries. Hope it is not infectous?!


:O:

Skybird
04-08-21, 09:11 AM
Die Welt writes about a study done in Bavaria:

With the screening study "Fr1da", researchers led by Anette-Gabriele Ziegler examined Bavarian children for an early stage of type 1 diabetes. These tests take blood samples. In order to be able to use this study structure for corona research, SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests were also carried out. -

During the first wave in spring 2020, the test results in the children examined showed a SARS-CoV-2 antibody frequency of 0.87 percent - six times more than reported via PCR tests. -

By continuing the study, it has now been shown that the detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies was significantly increased during the second wave in autumn and winter. Preschool children had an antibody frequency of 5.6 percent in the test period between October 2020 and February 2021. For school children who were tested from November 2020 to February 2021, the value was even 8.4 percent. -

Overall, the antibody frequency at the end of the second wave (January and February 2021) was about eight times higher than at the end of the first wave (April to July 2020). In addition, the results showed that in the second wave three to four times more preschool and school children in Bavaria were infected with SARS-CoV-2 than reported via PCR tests.

Jimbuna
04-08-21, 11:20 AM
The number of weekly coronavirus deaths in England and Wales has fallen by 92% from the second wave peak, the ONS says.

712 deaths involving Covid-19 occurred in the week to 19 March, down from 8,945 weekly deaths in January.

Today's statistics see 53 further deaths recorded in the UK, and a further 3,030 new cases.

More than 500,000 vaccinations have been given in 24 hours - 408,396 of them were second jabs.

The number of people who have had both doses of a vaccine in the UK has now passed six million.

The risk of a blood clot after Covid vaccination is about the same as on a long-haul flight, Matt Hancock says.

There are more than enough Moderna and Pfizer vaccines for under-30s, the health secretary says.

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says she'll be happy to have the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine next week.

The French Open tennis is being delayed by a week in the hope more fans can attend after France's lockdown.

Jimbuna
04-08-21, 11:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG72xGd0W0M

Jimbuna
04-08-21, 11:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOV0wi6XfuU

Jimbuna
04-08-21, 11:36 AM
EU countries are to continue following their own rules on which age groups should receive the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, after the EU’s medicines agency EMA recommended it should be given to all ages. The agency said very rare blood clots should be listed as a possible side effect. Belgium will now limit the vaccine to people over 55, while Spain and Italy will give the drug only to over 60s. France limits the drug to over 55s and Germany to over 60s.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel wants to change the law to harmonise Covid lockdown measures across the country and not only state by state, according to Bild newspaper. She’s been frustrated by some states’ refusal to tighten rules while infections remain high. In the past 24 hours there have been 20,407 new infections and 306 deaths.

Three students at Kirschgarten High School in the Swiss city of Basel have landed their entire class in quarantine by faking positive tests to avoid school, Blick newspaper reports. They falsified text messages from the Swiss contact tracing app, which meant 25 classmates and some teachers had to self-isolate.

A German mayor who got vaccinated before his turn has been suspended from his job in the eastern city of Halle. Bernd Wiegand refused to resign, insisting the dose had been left over and would have just gone to waste.

Prague hospital head Petr Arenberger has been appointed as the fourth Czech health minister since the start of the pandemic. He replaces Jan Blatny who has been repeatedly criticised by President Milos Zeman for refusing to back Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine.

Norway’s prime minister, Erna Solberg, says Covid restrictions will be relaxed in four stages that are each three weeks apart. Norway has managed to limit infections to about 100,000 cases and the government will decide when it can start loosening measures imposed on 25 March.

Jimbuna
04-08-21, 11:38 AM
There have been a further 53 coronavirus related deaths in the UK, according to government daily statistics.

It takes the total number of deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid-19 test to 126,980.

There were also 3,030 new infections recorded.

Catfish
04-08-21, 12:54 PM
EU countries are to continue following their own rules on which age groups should receive the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine, after the EU’s medicines agency EMA recommended it should be given to all ages. The agency said very rare blood clots should be listed as a possible side effect. Belgium will now limit the vaccine to people over 55, while Spain and Italy will give the drug only to over 60s. France limits the drug to over 55s and Germany to over 60s. [...]
Where's the dictatorial but also socialist and Nazi (The Sun) or monster EU superstate when you need it.

Jimbuna
04-08-21, 01:17 PM
Where's the dictatorial but also socialist and Nazi (The Sun) or monster EU superstate when you need it.

I seriously think it was an unfortunate decision to negotiate collectively for the bloc. Each country should not have held back and forged ahead with their own vaccine ordering.

Skybird
04-08-21, 01:58 PM
Slovakian contollers say charges of the Russian vaccine delivered to Slovakia are not identical with the agent named Sputnik V that had been handed in for trials and licensing to the EU and EMA, but is another vaccine of unknown composition.

No matter how good something might be - it seems its always just a question of time until somebody comes along and ruins it for stupid reasons.

Skybird
04-08-21, 02:12 PM
I seriously think it was an unfortunate decision to negotiate collectively for the bloc. Each country should not have held back and forged ahead with their own vaccine ordering.
The whole decision to turn the old EEC into what the EU today is and wants to become in the near future, was "unfortunate". :03:


The vaccine buying was also nothing the eu originalyl was aughtporiozed for. Merkel and von der Leyen and Macron wanted to use the opportunity to install more power to the block. As a reuslt from that, the eocnomc costs are many billiosn higher now than they might have needed to be, hundreds of thousands of people more than necessary got and will get ill, and tens of thousands have died and must die who could still live. But for the block and the glory of the EU, no sacrifice is too big as if we would dare not enjoying to bring it!


"Shoulder to shoulder towards our future and progress in solidarity!"

Catfish
04-08-21, 04:06 PM
I seriously think it was an unfortunate decision to negotiate collectively for the bloc. Each country should not have held back and forged ahead with their own vaccine ordering.
Well it was the members of the EU that gave this order to negotiate for them all, believing that a better deal could have been made that way – and most probably it was, by price and number of doses. You do not really believe that e.g. Astra-Zeneca would have distributed more doses to 27 single nations, and evenly?
Something like the EU or the Hanse back then was not "socialism", but a means to have a better negotiating position.

Because seriously what i think is that a chaos would have been initiated by every country trying to bribe and outmanouever and outperform and outpay its neighbour by own nationalist efforts, and a lot more people especially in the not-so-well-off countries would have died. Of course such thinking would be completely strange for a class society and the likes of Rees-Mogg.

Johnson was lucky that first "he" (lol) immediately got a lot of doses of the BionTech vaccine, second that Astra Zeneca was able to invent and then produce its vaccine in european plants and then send it almost all to the UK, and third that he was lucky gambling with the health of the people of the UK before a general clearance was declared. I admit that it is a good vaccine, but at that time a gamble it was.

Rockstar
04-08-21, 05:46 PM
I seriously think it was an unfortunate decision to negotiate collectively for the bloc. Each country should not have held back and forged ahead with their own vaccine ordering.


It could have worked in the E.U. just as it has in the U.S. Here, each state is sole authority for the administration of the vaccine. However, Under Emergency Use Authorization only the Federal Government can negotiate and purchase the vaccine(s). We now have over 174 million people that have received first dose and we're cranking out 3,035,473 vaccinations a day and that number keeps growing everyday.



Its worked here. Why it hasn't in the E.U. is because their appointed leader von der whatesherface doesn't have a clue what she's doing.

Skybird
04-09-21, 01:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG72xGd0W0M
From the above's description:

The Committee heard evidence that Vitamin D deficiency is prevalent across the population and the report recommends that public health measures are established to address that deficiency. These public health measures are preventative in nature and are recommended to reduce the risk of respiratory and other illnesses such as osteoporosis. 1 That daily Vitamin D supplementation of 20-25µg/day should be recommended to the entire adult population as a public health measure, higher doses recommended for vulnerable groups under medical supervision. 2 That a public health policy, which promotes better knowledge of the benefits of Vitamin D, and which encourages Vitamin D supplementation, should be developed in time for consideration in Budget 2022. 3 That reducing the cost of Vitamin D supplementation, in order to promote its uptake, should be considered. 4 That specific measures need to be put in place for vulnerable groups, and for frontline and healthcare workers, so that Vitamin D supplementation is administered on an opt-out basis, and for the duration of this pandemic, people should be offered Vitamin D supplements when presenting at Covid-19 test centres.


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I have read more on it over the past months, too. I have stopped thinking of it in terms of linkings and hints, and started to think of it in terms of evidence and causality already long time ago. The modern research on it came into heavy rolling already in the early 70s in the person of the grey eminence of Vitamine D research, Michael Hollick. Since the first SARS pandemic 2003, our knowledge about Vitamine C has seen a quantum leap forward. Modenr medicine knows no artifical drug that comes even close to the many hundreds and many hundreds of causal itneraction links of this hormone with switches and links of the human body and metabolism. I do not say it prpotects you against an infection, but it strengthens the immune system and at the same time modulates it to form less highly inflammatory zytokines and instea use more less inflammatory zytokines - a big stor yin Covid-19 infections.

The Medical School of Harvard University sine over one and a half decade lists Vitamine D supplementation - and Multi-Vitamines and - Minerals - in potent doses as indespensable for a healthy daily nutreiotiion, referring to the

1. bad eating behaviour habits of modern work life,

2. the lousy garbage-level nutrition value and many intoxications of highly processed industrial food and convenience food (of which I have started to think as slow killers),

and 3. the fact that over the past 100 years fruits and begetables due to the erposion of agricultural soils and the destruction of the microbiomes in them form chemical agents and fertilizers have lost in ske nutrient categories and geograpohical regions up to 90% (!!!) of nutrition values since WW1. The erosion process goes on, even pour "BIO" labelled foods and harvests get worse and worse.

(We are too damn many. ) We cannot farm sufficient ammounts of quality food for so many hungr ymouths as there are today, it simply is not possible. We need monocultures of biblical siozes, and this pays off badly for the quality, and it destroys and kills the fertile soil.

If your doctor does not know this or denies this, change your doctor, he illustrates by his lacking understanding that he does not care sufficiently to keep up tp date with modern research which goes forward all the time. A doctor owes it to his patient to try his best in this regard, and to reflect on what his patients bring up newly, but his day has just 24 hours, too. Because it is the patient paying the price for his competence or incompetence - with his health and well-being. Don'T be rude, listen tzo what he has to say, but if he has no damn good reaosns and can illustrate them to you, silently say Sayonara and look for a better one.

Skybird
04-09-21, 01:57 AM
An excurse on my argument above that the quality of our food gets destroyed: sees diversity gets reduced, too, and that holds great risks, ecologically, econjomically, and health wise (f.e. ATI sensitivity).

https://www.dw.com/en/agriculture-seeds-seed-laws-agribusinesses-climate-change-food-security-seed-sovereignty-bayer/a-57118595

Skybird
04-09-21, 02:04 AM
And this, politically so very incorrect:


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/erstmals-konkrete-zahlen-dfdfdf_id_13171359.html


Tja tja. Tell that loud in public, and see what a mess that brings you into... You immediately have to justify yourself for "racism".

Jimbuna
04-09-21, 06:24 AM
Its worked here. Why it hasn't in the E.U. is because their appointed leader von der whatesherface doesn't have a clue what she's doing.

My limited understanding is that she has excelled in political failure most if not all of her career.

Jimbuna
04-09-21, 06:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEg523BilxI

Jimbuna
04-09-21, 06:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4X3JjWRIA

Skybird
04-09-21, 06:50 AM
My limited understanding is that she has excelled in political failure most if not all of her career.
She is like a golfer who has never holed a ball in his career. If her father would not have been a famous (not necessarily good) politician and minister president and brought her into poltics by his name, she most likely would not be known to the world by now. She led two ministries in germany, and failed miserably in both, wasted lots of money, all her time, and blamed others for her failures.


In a way she is a perfect figure head for the EU ship.

Jimbuna
04-09-21, 06:59 AM
She is like a golfer who has never holed a ball in his career. If her father would not have been a famous (not necessarily good) politician and minister president and brought her into poltics by his name, she most likely would not be known to the world by now. She led two ministries in germany, and failed miserably in both, wasted lots of money, all her time, and blamed others for her failures.


In a way she is a perfect figure head for the EU ship.

I thought as much :yep:

Moonlight
04-09-21, 07:56 AM
She might be a political failure old boy but she knows how to carry on between the sheets I can tell you, 7 kids attests to that fact, I'm assuming that contraception wasn't a high priority on the top of her list at the time, talk about bloody margarine legs, sheesh. :O:

Catfish
04-09-21, 03:07 PM
Better than carrying the bloody margarine in your head :03:

Moonlight
04-09-21, 04:06 PM
Ouch, :haha: was that barb aimed at me or Ursula Catfish as it was that thinly spread I couldn't tell. :O:

August
04-09-21, 06:29 PM
Ouch, :haha: was that barb aimed at me or Ursula Catfish as it was that thinly spread I couldn't tell. :O:




Ursula Catfish would be an awesome movie character name. Just sayin...

Reece
04-09-21, 06:46 PM
:har: Oh you are a tease!! :D

Skybird
04-10-21, 06:16 AM
Are you listening, Germany, EU?

"(...) you need to react quickly. You need to go after the virus. You need to stop the chance of transmission. You need to engage with communities, very deeply, community acceptance is usually very important. You ned to be coordinated, you need to be coherent. You need to be prepared.... (...) Be fast. Have no regret. You must be the firts mover. The virus will always get you if you do not move quickly... (...) If you need to be right before you move, you will never win. Perfection is the enemy of the good when it comes to emergency management. Speed trumps perfection. And the problem we have in society at the moment is: everybody is afraid to make a mistake, everybody is afraid of the consequences of error. But the greatest error is not to move."


Words for eternity. While the echo rolls, it dawns upon the listener what stupid, incompetent, fearful, opportunistic, clueless loosers our political leaders have shown to be.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqRHH6e-y6I


The Germans, the Eu wanted to do it perfectly. And what they got was the worst possible outcome.

Catfish
04-10-21, 10:06 AM
Ursula Catfish would be an awesome movie character name. Just sayin...
Well played :rotfl2:

Also like that:
"I got kicked out of a Flat Earth group just for asking if the six foot social distancing rule had pushed anyone over the edge yet."

:har:

Jimbuna
04-10-21, 01:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2QKJ0QnowM

Jimbuna
04-10-21, 01:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHVgCkAVeVM

Skybird
04-10-21, 05:33 PM
Giggle of the day: the US Army vaccinates soldiers of the Bundeswehr that are currently based in the US, I suppose for training purposes. Until end of April, the Germans should have gotten their full vaccine protection.

And Germany: Wastes time, and wastes time, and wastes time, and wastes time. All in the name of ever better, perfect plans.

What a pitiful way of ruining a country, a reputation, an economy, a public health.

Jimbuna
04-11-21, 10:25 AM
Non-essential shops are preparing to open their doors on Monday in England and Wales.

England's gyms, zoos and hairdressers will also reopen, while restaurants and pubs will welcome customers outdoors.

The public have been urged to respect staff and follow Covid guidelines - with retail sales predicted to surge.

Buckingham Palace repeats appeal for public not to go there to pay tribute to Prince Philip.

Covid rules mean UK PM Boris Johnson is to miss the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral, allowing family to attend.

A further 2,589 coronavirus cases are reported across the UK on Saturday alongside another 40 deaths.

Skybird
04-11-21, 10:33 AM
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600%2821%2900160-0

This new study is cause for big hope by some German experts. Asthma-inhilators with the agent budesonide seem to massively reduce the chance for serious complications in Covid-infected people so that they will not get hospitalised.

Already early on it was flund that amongst hospitlised Covid patient there only are very rare numbers of asthma patient and patient with earlier symptoms of respiratory infecitons, so it was assumed that medicaitosn used against these two might have a relevance for fightign againbst covid, too. It seems the theory finds support in empirical evidence now. The gemrna SPD'S health expert Lauterbach, a doctor himself, calls it a game chnager, since the study was done well and represents solid methodological quality.

Jimbuna
04-11-21, 10:39 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/DzVs3RH8/Untitled11.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Jimbuna
04-11-21, 10:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfriHsLv0NA

Skybird
04-11-21, 04:31 PM
Latest research results show that even mild forms of Covid leave damages to the glucose metabolism of brain cells, mildly or severely damaging/limiting brain areas and by that meaning that even mild forms of Covid lead to sometimes lasting brain damages of varying degrees. These are sometimes of a lasting, irreversible nature. Around 80% of all patients (even non-hospitalised) are generally affected by this glucose handicap, 50% are mildly or medium-severely affected, 15 very severely.

Brains scans with magnetic resonanse tomography MRT usually cannot reveal these deficits in the brain functioning, but PET scans (18FDG-PET). This sort of scan reveals the deficits in the chemical glucose metabolising in the brain. Researchers assume that these changes are in parts reversible, in parts not. The damage to the system is not done by the virus itself, but by the overshooting immune system.

Therefore, guys, take your damn Vitamine D pills., Vitamine D not only strengthens the immune system, but also MODULATES it, that means it helps to re-tune it for fighting with less inflammatory neural messenger molecules. So very much of the lasting health damages and threatening complications are not caused directly by the virus, but by the body's and immune system's fighting response to it. Think of it as collateral damage. Vitamine D does not prevent an infection most likely, but it fundamentally shifts chances in your favour to suffer a mild case only. In principle the same what they say about vaccines: they do not protect you from infection, but from suffering complications and serious cases.

For the same reason: throw out all those poisonous plant seed oils you are using, sunflower oil, corn oil (maize oil?) , linseed oil, safflower oil. They tell you how healthy they are, and its always a lie. These oils have a terrible dysbalance between highly inflammatory Omega 6- and anti-inflammatory Omega 3 fatty acids. In case of sunflower oil its especially terrible, the ratio is a shocking 125:1 !



The body fat of yours all the time creates and sends out molecules serving as messenger particles, like cytokines, and if your body fat contains - as is usual in Europe and Northern America - 15-30 times more inflammatory Omega 6 than anti-inflammatory Omega 3 - well, you can imagine you then have a very fundamental problem. 15-30 times the order comes in to open fire, and just once an order comes in saying Seize Fire!


Loose body fat, and in the fat you keep, make sure that Omega 6 gets phased out and Omega 3 comes in. The change in your fat chemistry takes some months. But it can be done. I had it measured three weeks ago, and got a wonderful value of O6 to O3 of just 1.8 : 1 . How to do? Ban the mentioned fats and seed oils in general, without exception. Consume much fatty fish, or fish oil, krill oil. In Scandinavia, parts of it at least and especially Finland I read, flasks with fish oil are offered on a lunch table like salt and pepper, milk and sugar for coffee! Do your grilling and pan frying with coconut oil, thats top. Ghee (clearede butter), if you think you must. Mild temperature cooking: olive oil extra vergine. Margerine should be called poisonous, avoid it. Avoid trans fats. Avoid soy bean oil. NEVER use refined fats and oils. Be easy with using the deep fryer (I know that one hurts, I too love the taste from that, but the poison you eat by that stays in your body fat chemistry for several months). What you need is coconut oil, olive oil, fish oil, and with a little good will you can get perfectly along with just that. If you need butter,m use butter from grass-fed animals. The difference between grass feeding and soy/grain feeding is that in the animal's body fat, the ratio between Omega 6 and Omega 3 is almost reversing from very disadvantageous to very advantageous- that is a very huge difference, I would say.

I do like that since almost a year now. It works, and helps, and tastes wonderful, tastes so much better. Also, use lard and suet, if you have it or create it (with your breakfast bacon for exmaple). Its not ideal, but by far not as dangerous as those damn plant seed oils.

Do not fear calories in fat, you do not become fat form fat, you beocme fat from grain, wheat, corn, and the insuline reaciton these create. Consuming good fats does not create an insuline reaction worth to be considered! The only thing abotu fat you shoukld fear is using bad, refined fats, and plant oils. I have my own name for these now, I simply call them industrial waste.



Like I was convinced from early on that Vitamine D has a place in fi8ghting the desease, I am also convinced that gettign your weight intoi healthy ranges and your belly fat down a bit and clenaign up your body's fat bilance also is an importnat key in fighting Coivid 19. And the reasons/explanations kind of echo each other. You cna also see it in hopsitals: diabetes and adipositas patients are overrepresented. Both have a relation to unhealthy body fat.


A little recipe for not wasting the fat from the breakfast bacon: as a reward for reading :)

- Boil millet in a salty brew, chicken brew, vegetable brew, whatever, just a bit salty it should be.
- Prepare bacon stripes in a pan, until they are mildly crusty and have lost fat for oil in the pan.
- When the millet is done and "dry", stirr it under the fat in the pan, break down the crsuty bacon in the process.

- Be amazed how wonderful somethign so simple can taste! reminds a bit of this typical Asia-style fried pan-rice that is so aromatic and great in taste where people always wonder: how do they do it? Indeed you can cramble an egg and slowly let it drip via a fork over the hot pan, but gently, so that it can form small flakes, not just scrambled pan eggs.

I shouldn't have written this. Its almost midnight, and I want to go to the kitchen...

Mr Quatro
04-11-21, 10:24 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/DzVs3RH8/Untitled11.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Sort of odd these are very close to the same data figures for the state of California :yep:

Latest research results show that even mild forms of Covid leave damages to the glucose metabolism of brain cells, mildly or severely damaging/limiting brain areas and by that meaning that even mild forms of Covid lead to sometimes lasting brain damages of varying degrees. These are sometimes of a lasting, irreversible nature. Around 80% of all patients (even non-hospitalised) are generally affected by this glucose handicap, 50% are mildly or medium-severely affected, 15 very severely.

Brains scans with magnetic resonanse tomography MRT usually cannot reveal these deficits in the brain functioning, but PET scans (18FDG-PET). This sort of scan reveals the deficits in the chemical glucose metabolising in the brain. Researchers assume that these changes are in parts reversible, in parts not. The damage to the system is not done by the virus itself, but by the overshooting immune system.

Therefore, guys, take your damn Vitamine D pills., Vitamine D not only strengthens the immune system, but also MODULATES it, that means it helps to re-tune it for fighting with less inflammatory neural messenger molecules. So very much of the lasting health damages and threatening complications are not caused directly by the virus, but by the body's and immune system's fighting response to it. Think of it as collateral damage. Vitamine D does not prevent an infection most likely, but it fundamentally shifts chances in your favour to suffer a mild case only. In principle the same what they say about vaccines: they do not protect you from infection, but from suffering complications and serious cases.

For the same reason: throw out all those poisonous plant seed oils you are using, sunflower oil, corn oil (maize oil?) , linseed oil, safflower oil. They tell you how healthy they are, and its always a lie. These oils have a terrible dysbalance between highly inflammatory Omega 6- and anti-inflammatory Omega 3 fatty acids. In case of sunflower oil its especially terrible, the ratio is a shocking 125:1 !



The body fat of yours all the time creates and sends out molecules serving as messenger particles, like cytokines, and if your body fat contains - as is usual in Europe and Northern America - 15-30 times more inflammatory Omega 6 than anti-inflammatory Omega 3 - well, you can imagine you then have a very fundamental problem. 15-30 times the order comes in to open fire, and just once an order comes in saying Seize Fire!


Loose body fat, and in the fat you keep, make sure that Omega 6 gets phased out and Omega 3 comes in. The change in your fat chemistry takes some months. But it can be done. I had it measured three weeks ago, and got a wonderful value of O6 to O3 of just 1.8 : 1 . How to do? Ban the mentioned fats and seed oils in general, without exception. Consume much fatty fish, or fish oil, krill oil. In Scandinavia, parts of it at least and especially Finland I read, flasks with fish oil are offered on a lunch table like salt and pepper, milk and sugar for coffee! Do your grilling and pan frying with coconut oil, thats top. Ghee (clearede butter), if you think you must. Mild temperature cooking: olive oil extra vergine. Margerine should be called poisonous, avoid it. Avoid trans fats. Avoid soy bean oil. NEVER use refined fats and oils. Be easy with using the deep fryer (I know that one hurts, I too love the taste from that, but the poison you eat by that stays in your body fat chemistry for several months). What you need is coconut oil, olive oil, fish oil, and with a little good will you can get perfectly along with just that. If you need butter,m use butter from grass-fed animals. The difference between grass feeding and soy/grain feeding is that in the animal's body fat, the ratio between Omega 6 and Omega 3 is almost reversing from very disadvantageous to very advantageous- that is a very huge difference, I would say.

I do like that since almost a year now. It works, and helps, and tastes wonderful, tastes so much better. Also, use lard and suet, if you have it or create it (with your breakfast bacon for exmaple). Its not ideal, but by far not as dangerous as those damn plant seed oils.

Do not fear calories in fat, you do not become fat form fat, you beocme fat from grain, wheat, corn, and the insuline reaciton these create. Consuming good fats does not create an insuline reaction worth to be considered! The only thing abotu fat you shoukld fear is using bad, refined fats, and plant oils. I have my own name for these now, I simply call them industrial waste.



Like I was convinced from early on that Vitamine D has a place in fi8ghting the desease, I am also convinced that gettign your weight intoi healthy ranges and your belly fat down a bit and clenaign up your body's fat bilance also is an importnat key in fighting Coivid 19. And the reasons/explanations kind of echo each other. You cna also see it in hopsitals: diabetes and adipositas patients are overrepresented. Both have a relation to unhealthy body fat.


A little recipe for not wasting the fat from the breakfast bacon: as a reward for reading :)

- Boil millet in a salty brew, chicken brew, vegetable brew, whatever, just a bit salty it should be.
- Prepare bacon stripes in a pan, until they are mildly crusty and have lost fat for oil in the pan.
- When the millet is done and "dry", stirr it under the fat in the pan, break down the crsuty bacon in the process.

- Be amazed how wonderful somethign so simple can taste! reminds a bit of this typical Asia-style fried pan-rice that is so aromatic and great in taste where people always wonder: how do they do it? Indeed you can cramble an egg and slowly let it drip via a fork over the hot pan, but gently, so that it can form small flakes, not just scrambled pan eggs.

I shouldn't have written this. Its almost midnight, and I want to go to the kitchen...

Thank you sky for what seems to be true, but I do eat a lot of fat in both varieties and as for the brain damage ... already reported here in the USA among the people that have already contracted Covid-19 at least the ones that recovered, duh. :hmmm:

Jimbuna
04-12-21, 12:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnSRBrzy3uY

Jimbuna
04-12-21, 12:47 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/L4bkBj1T/118005564-uk-card-with-vax-12apr-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/qg2CphQh)

Jimbuna
04-13-21, 06:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzhLmVTGa0

Jimbuna
04-13-21, 06:25 AM
All over-50s and those in high-risk groups in the UK have been offered a first dose of a coronavirus vaccine, the government says.

It means the target of offering a first dose to the top nine priority groups by 15 April has been met.

People in their late 40s can now book a jab in England, while those aged 40-45 have been making appointments in Wales and Northern Ireland.

The NHS crashed when over-45s were invited to book, amid a surge in interest - but has since been fixed.

The Moderna vaccine is to start being rolled out in England - Scotland and Wales began using it last week.

The government says it is on track to offer a first vaccine dose to all adults by the end of July.

Surge testing is implemented in two areas of south London, after a cluster of the South African variant was found.

PM Boris Johnson warns that Covid cases and deaths will rise as lockdown lifts, despite the successful rollout.

Pubs and restaurants opened outdoors in England on Monday, with shops, zoos, gyms and hair salons also reopening.

Northern Ireland's "stay-at-home" order was lifted and some rules were eased in Scotland and Wales.

Jimbuna
04-13-21, 06:36 AM
Federal health officials in the US have called for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine rollout to be paused, in light of six cases that saw recipients develop a rare disorder involving blood clots.
All six were women between the ages of 18 and 48. Officials briefed on the decision reportedly told the New York Times that one woman died, and another is in a critical condition in hospital.

The German government has agreed on a controversial law change that gives it the power to pass tougher Covid restrictions.
The adjusted national infections control law, which still needs to be approved by parliament, would allow the federal government to impose curfews from 9pm to 5am, and to close schools and businesses in areas with high infection rates.

Austria's health minister Rudolf Anschober has resigned, saying he's exhausted.
"I've decided to resign from my job... I'm overworked and powered out," he says, adding that his 15 months in the role has felt like 15 years.
He has been off work since last week, and he also took a week off sick last month and checked into a hospital.

Three elderly Covid patients have died in Romania after a malfunction in a mobile intensive care unit’s oxygen supply. The ventilators stopped working because oxygen levels rose too high, officials in Bucharest said.

Belgian prosecutors have launched an investigation into threats made against virologist Marc van Ranst,who fronts Belgium’s anti-Covid campaign. Mr van Ranst says he’s fed up with constant death threats – the latest is allegedly from a dance manager. The virologist has had to have police protection for months.

Ireland has become the latest European country to limit the use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca drug to over 60s. Extremely rare blood clots have been linked to the drug but the EU’s medical regulator say the benefits outweigh any risk.

French Prime Minister Jean Castex is expected to tell parliament today that regional elections will take place on two weekends running in the second half of June. The government asked 35,000 local mayors what they thought and most of them agreed they should go ahead.

The authorities in Botswana have stopped vaccination in some regions saying doses allocated to them have been depleted.
The country has so far vaccinated 17,808 people, according to data from the health ministry.

Rockstar
04-13-21, 11:13 AM
The COVID song



https://youtu.be/MN9YLLQl7gE

Jimbuna
04-13-21, 01:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATmL_2Jqh-I

Jimbuna
04-13-21, 01:22 PM
There have been a further 23 coronavirus-related deaths in the UK, according to government data.

It means a total of 127,123 people have now died within 28 days of a positive coronavirus test.

A total of 2,472 new cases were detected.

Catfish
04-13-21, 03:17 PM
The COVID song

https://youtu.be/MN9YLLQl7gE

Grohl's as good as ever, and
nice text :haha: :up:

Jimbuna
04-14-21, 04:40 AM
This looks promising but sadly, I think it was brought about as a result of our 'friends and allies' attitude namely the EU

Mix and match vaccine study extended to include Moderna and Novavax jabs

A study assessing the benefits of mixing and matching coronavirus vaccines has been extended to include the Moderna and Novavax jabs.

The Com-Cov study, led by the University of Oxford, has been investigating the immune responses of volunteers given a dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine followed by the Pfizer jab - and vice versa.

The UK has secured 100 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine, 40 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine, 60 million doses of the Novavax jab, and 17 million doses of the Moderna jab.

Novavax has not been given the green light for use in the UK but the company has applied for approval.

Professor Snape will explain at a briefing on Wednesday that Novavax is different from other vaccines and so it is a good idea to include it in the additional study.

Professor Snape said the J&J vaccine, which also has not yet been approved for use in the UK, is a singe-dose treatment and is therefore not useful for this trial.

The results from the initial Com-Cov study, which began in February, are due in around a week's time.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/mix-and-match-vaccine-study-extended-to-include-moderna-and-novavax-jabs/ar-BB1fCMnW?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBoPWjQ

Jimbuna
04-14-21, 04:52 AM
Quarter of Covid deaths not caused by virus, new figures show

The latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show that 23 per cent of coronavirus deaths registered are now people who have died "with" the virus rather than "from" an infection.

This means that, while the person who died will have tested positive for Covid, that was not the primary cause of their death recorded on the death certificate.

https://i.postimg.cc/CMZKST6F/BB1fDsQ3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/quarter-of-covid-deaths-not-caused-by-virus-new-figures-show/ar-BB1fCibT?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAnZ9Ug

Jimbuna
04-14-21, 05:04 AM
In England, an estimated 54.9% of the population had Covid antibodies in the week to 28 March, the Office for National Statistics says.

That number was 49.1% in Wales, 54.5% in Northern Ireland and 46% in Scotland.

The US, South Africa and European Union pause the Johnson & Johnson vaccine rollout after reports of rare blood clotting.
The US Food and Drug Administration says six blood clot cases were detected after more than 6.8 million doses of the vaccine were administered.

Johnson & Johnson says that "no clear causal relationship" has been established between its vaccine and the clots.

A leading statistician says data supports PM Boris Johnson's claim lockdown, not vaccines, was the major cause of the UK's fall in cases.

A UK trial looking at whether different types of jabs can be used for first and second doses hopes to recruit more volunteers.

So far more than 32 million people in the UK have received a first vaccine dose, while 7.8 million have had both doses.

The delay in rolling out the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is proving a headache for European governments that are relying on it to meet national vaccination targets.

Spain’s vaccine programme has started slowly and it was expecting 5.5 million doses of the Janssen dose (as it is known in Europe) by the end of June. Belgium received its first delivery of the single-dose vaccine on Monday – it says it’ll wait for a “clear signal” from the EU’s medicines agency before deciding which age group will receive it. German immunology expert Carsten Watzl wants the government in Berlin to focus on securing other vaccine deliveries to ensure under-60s are inoculated.

Lockdown in France has led to “significant and immediate health benefits” from a fall in pollution levels, according to the SPF public health agency. There has been an estimated fall of 2,300 deaths from exposure to particulate matter and another 1,200 from nitrogen dioxide linked to traffic.

France has suspended fights to and from Brazil because of concerns surrounding the P-1 Covid-19 variant prevalent in the country. Two flights will arrive in France this morning which took off before the midnight ban came into force.

Germany has reported more than 21,000 new infections in the past 24 hours and a rising seven-day incidence rate of 153.2.

A Dutch programme to hold test events with audiences is to continue later this week with 1,500 people attending a music award festival in Utrecht. Further big events will take place on 24 April with audiences of 8,000 and 10,000. Everyone needs a negative test before the event and then five days afterwards too.

In Croatia, Zagreb’s tourist board is offering half-price coronavirus tests to tourists who spend at least one night in the city. It wants them to extend their stay without worrying about their return home.

Skybird
04-14-21, 07:59 AM
Denmark ultimately abandons vaccinating with the AZ vaccine, indefinitely. It has been deleted from their vaccination scheme.

Chinese vaccines more and more come under suspicions to be far less effective than previously published and claimed by the regime. Some critics call some of them "placebos".

The Russian vaccine Sputnik V slowly darkens its reputation, too, it seems. Its said there are growing concerns that the delivered charges to Europe do not match the samples described in documentations and studies. The Slovenians were first hitting the alarm button.

Well, Sputnik V was my favourite. But I said I mean the Sputnik V that the published data describes.

Johnson& Johnson faces problems with its vaccine. So does Moderna. It seems the least disputed choice for the moment indeed is the Biontech one.

Catfish
04-14-21, 08:03 AM
For all i have read and heard, there are six cases of blood clots in a million vaccinated persons.
It has been researched, there are certain precautions that can be made beforehand, is this ban really worth it?

Apart from p*** Boris Johnson off, of course :O:
uh uh

Skybird
04-14-21, 08:21 AM
For all i have read and heard, there are six cases of blood clots in a million vaccinated persons.
It has been researched, there are certain precautions that can be made beforehand, is this ban really worth it?

My reaosoning exactly. But i red some minutes ago that there is one big unknown: the documentation of the probability for these problems in various age groups is so uncomplete or non-existent that this lack of information raises questions. I add this to earlier problems with AZ from the first phase trials on, and it has always been the same with them throughout the now long chain of problems and issues: they did not document properly, the evaded, they lied, and tried to get away. Thats why I said some days ago that personally I am done with them. This company has ruined its reputation, I do not trust it anymore and never will trust it again. Its acting has a foul smell around it, sorry to say. That they also lied about the date of treaty signatures with the UK and EU is the one issue that you certainly would agree on, if not on the others. This is no excuse for the stupid things the EU did and practiced, of course.



The blood clotting issue seems to be inherent with all so-far known vector vaccines for Covid19, or am I wrong?


Meanwhile it gets reported today that Biontech will deliver an additional load of 50 million doses to Germany until I think June. And an addon-treaty for the delivery of 1.8 bn additional doses until 2023 to the EU is short of being signed.

Catfish
04-14-21, 08:36 AM
oh here i agree with you, the reports were incomplete and they still try to dodge direct questions - doubtful procedural methods and all that; but however by now and after millions of people being vaccinated and it is obviously working... why not.
Half of friends have been vaccinated by now once (first jab) either with AZ or the german BionTech, no problems up to now. This is not representative, or statistically significant, but then are 6 in a million? :hmmm:

No need to answer, we'll see..

mapuc
04-14-21, 08:54 AM
True Denmark has abandon AZ and they have put Johnson & Johnson in the fridge. Since report from USA that it could have the same side effect as AZ.
Denmark have bought 5.6 dosis of this Johnson & Johnson.

Sweden has no plan on abandon AZ only changes is that only people above 50/60 years old will be vaccinated with AZ.

Markus

Skybird
04-14-21, 10:34 AM
oh here i agree with you, the reports were incomplete and they still try to dodge direct questions - doubtful procedural methods and all that; but however by now and after millions of people being vaccinated and it is obviously working... why not.
Half of friends have been vaccinated by now once (first jab) either with AZ or the german BionTech, no problems up to now. This is not representative, or statistically significant, but then are 6 in a million? :hmmm:

No need to answer, we'll see..
On the weighing of risks, I agree with you, and if it would be only the thrombosis thing and that would be the first issue raised with AZ, I would not mind, nor change my mind. Its the record they have established that has me on my guard against them now. But that is my decision affecting myself only, and neither will I tell nations or people not to use AZ, nor will I tell them to especially use this one. But personally, only myself: I am done with this company, I do not trust them anymore. Too long a record of issues with them, too established their reputation to be untrustworthy. Heaven knows what will come in late consequences of this vaccine. I try my luck with another one.

Heck, you and me live in Germany, and Biontech did the development of its vaccine and got paid with German taxes for that, so why the heck have they messed things up in Berlin so that German citizens do not get vaccinated with their German-made and German-developed and German-paid vaccine...? Absolutely incomprehensible. But somewhat typical.

Jimbuna
04-14-21, 12:59 PM
As I've stated previously, the EU's gripe should not be with the UK but rather AZ

Besides, I've been vaccinated with Pfizer and I'm happy with that.

Jimbuna
04-14-21, 01:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIfzd_lJDhU

Skybird
04-14-21, 01:20 PM
As I've stated previously, the EU's gripe should not be with the UK but rather AZ

Besides, I've been vaccinated with Pfizer and I'm happy with that.
Germans inside your Royalty, now the German formula in your veins, and this time no Spitfires around to save you, Muahahahahaha :cool::sunny: Get ready to turn blond and blue-eyed!

Jimbuna
04-14-21, 01:32 PM
Germans inside your Royalty, now the German formula in your veins, and this time no Spitfires around to save you, Muahahahahaha :cool::sunny: Get ready to turn blond and blue-eyed!

Thank the Lord the French were unsuccessful in their efforts at producing a vaccine :O:

Rockstar
04-14-21, 09:13 PM
US biotech company Moderna announced Covid vaccine is 90 percent effective against all forms of the disease and 95 percent effective against severe disease.


U.S. vacinations


194,791,836

People Fully Vaccinated

69,211,473

% of Population Fully Vaccinated

21.15%


How things going in the EU, still blaming the Brits and Big Pharma instead the glaring lack of E.U. leadership I suppose. ;)

Buddahaid
04-15-21, 12:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHPn-3mjxZM

Catfish
04-15-21, 03:00 AM
[...] How things going in the EU, still blaming the Brits and Big Pharma instead the glaring lack of E.U. leadership I suppose. ;)
Still less dead than in the US. Astra Zeneca is ok in my book, but if they don't deliver what can we do? Declare war? Maybe we can outsource the latter to Russia. And "Leadership", what are you? A democracy? :O:

EU throws weight behind Pfizer-BioNTech and new technology (https://apnews.com/article/world-news-europe-ursula-von-der-leyen-coronavirus-pandemic-3492fd8262cbc39815168ec26b0d8ff9)

Skybird
04-15-21, 04:00 AM
It seems to me both the US and EU are on a course to move away from using Covid 19 vector vaccines (AstraZeneca, Johnson&Johnson) in general.

Jimbuna
04-15-21, 06:30 AM
It seems to me both the US and EU are on a course to move away from using Covid 19 vector vaccines (AstraZeneca, Johnson&Johnson) in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQh405XEVCo

Catfish
04-15-21, 06:51 AM
^^ from further north

EU throws weight behind Pfizer-BioNTech and new technology (https://apnews.com/article/world-news-europe-ursula-von-der-leyen-coronavirus-pandemic-3492fd8262cbc39815168ec26b0d8ff9)

Skybird
04-15-21, 08:36 AM
With curevac, a second German vaccine plans to enter the market by the end of 2nd quarter or early 3rd quarter. They will file for an emergency permssion in the coming weeks. Curevac, made in Tübingen, is another mRNA vaccine. Pre-clincial studies showed that it already protects against one of the latest worrysome mutations, B.135. The data collecting from running trials is still underway. Lets hope they can start the roll-out in 3rd quarter, and early then.

Rockstar
04-15-21, 09:22 AM
Still less dead than in the US. Astra Zeneca is ok in my book, but if they don't deliver what can we do? Declare war? Maybe we can outsource the latter to Russia. And "Leadership", what are you? A democracy? :O:

EU throws weight behind Pfizer-BioNTech and new technology (https://apnews.com/article/world-news-europe-ursula-von-der-leyen-coronavirus-pandemic-3492fd8262cbc39815168ec26b0d8ff9)


Lol,

you know I've read a couple of articles already that said the risk of blood clots are pretty much the same with all COVID vaccines. I think maybe we are witnessing politics, money making power plays and media sensationalism.

Before COVID vaccines we would have accused anyone who pointed these quite minimal risks out as just a bunch of antivaxxer cry babies.


oh, and by the way.

As of week 2021-14, 645 412 deaths have been reported in the EU

564,387 deaths in the U.S.

Jimbuna
04-15-21, 11:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuyAtvwP2H4

Jimbuna
04-15-21, 12:01 PM
Test and Trace figures show positive tests in England are down by 34% in a week.

Surge testing for the South African Covid variant is taking place in six London boroughs in a bid to halt its spread.

Residents in the SE16 postcode in Southwark, N3 in Barnet, HA2 in Harrow and UB3 in Hillingdon are being urged to get tested, as well as all residents of Lambeth and Wandsworth.

Surge testing is also being carried out in parts of Smethwick in the West Midlands.

Around 4.7 million people were waiting for routine operations and procedures in England in February - the highest since 2007, NHS England figures show
Nearly 388,000 were waiting more than a year for non-urgent surgery compared with just 1,600 before the pandemic.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has promised to give the NHS "all the funding that it needs" to tackle the backlog.

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said she was "glad" she had the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine and it was "emotional"

More than 200,000 new daily cases have been confirmed in India as the virus spreads.

Jimbuna
04-15-21, 12:05 PM
Germany’s rising infection number – 29,426 in the past 24 hours – has prompted intensive care doctors to appeal for urgent action. Chancellor Angela Merkel is pushing for a nationwide emergency brake including a night-time curfew and school closures where incidence rates are high – but legal experts have raised concerns, particularly about the curfew. Leading emergency medicine specialist Christian Karagiannidis says there’s no time to wait.

The Swiss will be able to return to cafes and restaurants outdoors from Monday, and cinemas and theatres will start allowing audiences of 50 people. Football stadiums, concerts and other outdoor events will be allowed to admit 100 people if they wear masks.

France will become the third country in Western Europe, probably this evening, to surpass 100,000 Covid deaths after the UK and Italy. There is no let-up in the country's third wave with almost 6,000 people in intensive care - the highest number since mid-April last year. President Emmanuel Macron will chair a cabinet meeting this evening on a plan to reopen outdoor catering and eventually culture venues.

Italy reported another 469 deaths yesterday evening, bringing the death toll to 115,557. But hospital numbers are falling – with 3,490 in intensive care. Italian health officials have secured another seven million Pfizer-BioNTech doses by the end of June – it’s becoming the most important vaccine for much of Europe.

The Italian consignment is among 50 million extra doses that the European Union has secured from Pfizer for the second quarter of 2021. The agreement fills a gap created by delays because of the suspended Johnson & Johnson vaccine and the limits imposed on the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. Meanwhile, Serbia has started production of the Russian Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine. Russia's sovereign wealth fund says it may be exported to other countries in the region.

Jimbuna
04-15-21, 12:07 PM
A further 30 people have died after contracting coronavirus in the UK, according to government daily statistics.

It brings the total number of deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid-19 test to 127,191.

There were also 2,672 new infections.

A total of 40,958,303 coronavirus vaccinations have been given in the UK, according to government figures.

That's 32,444,439 first doses and 8,513,864 second doses.

In England and Scotland, people aged 45 and over are now being invited to book their jabs.

In Northern Ireland, those aged 40-45 are eligible to get a Covid vaccine, while in some areas in Wales 40-49 year-olds are being invited.

mapuc
04-15-21, 12:26 PM
In most countries surrounding Denmark they suffer from out-of-control epidemic Germany and Sweden

In meantime the people on the streets here in Denmark are demanding an end of our restrictions. This because the R0 has been below 0.4 each day and number of tested has been around 200.000 each day.

What I understand is that this B117 British variant has an R0 around 1.1-1.2

Markus

August
04-15-21, 08:33 PM
My prediction in 10 years we will be seeing commercials saying something like this:


"If you took the covid vaccine in 2021 you may be entitled to compensation. Call the law offices of Doowee, Cheatem and Howe and speak to one of our representatives right away."

Jimbuna
04-16-21, 07:42 AM
About 130,000 people in the UK are estimated to have had coronavirus in the week to 10 April, the Office for National Statistics says.

That is down sharply from 185,000 people the previous week, and represents one-in-500 people having Covid-19

But the World Health Organization warns Covid cases around the world are continuing to increase at a "worrying rate"

Chancellor Angela Merkel says the third wave has Germany "firmly in its grip" and the situation there is "very serious"

New rules on travel and meeting people outdoors have come into force in Scotland today as restrictions are eased.

People can now travel out of their local area for non-essential reasons and six people from up to six households can meet outdoors.

Successful vaccine programmes will stop another washout for summer holidaymakers, the boss of Europe's largest tour company TUI says.

China's economy grew a record 18.3% in the first quarter of 2021 compared with a year earlier - the biggest jump since records began.

A new Covid-19 variant in the UK, first identified in India, features two mutations that could be a cause for concern, an expert says.

Jimbuna
04-16-21, 07:48 AM
Denmark’s political parties have finalised plans to open up further next Wednesday – with indoor dining in cafes, restaurants and bars, as long as people book and provide a corona pass. Museums and art galleries will also be open for people with the “coronapas”. The downloadable pass shows if you have had a negative test in the past three days, have recently had Covid or have been vaccinated.

Two German states have decided to impose more stringent measures from Monday - Baden-Württemberg in the south-west and Mecklenburg-West Pomerania in the far north. In the north most shops and schools will shut – although hairdressers will stay open. The German government is changing the law so it can pull the so-called "emergency brake" across the country from Berlin, but that won’t happen until later next week.

Portugal will start lifting lockdown on Monday, but 11 local authorities out of more than 300 will have to wait because of a high incidence rate. Restaurants, shopping centres, high schools and universities will all reopen but Prime Minister António Costa has warned the transmission rate is higher now than it was at the start of March. France has confirmed it will reopen primary schools on 26 April and secondary schools a week later.

Dutch Health Minister Hugo de Jonge has rejected criticism of the spiralling cost of holding 445 test events over the next few weeks which have attracted 232,000 people. He insists the events are a “fantastic investment”, but critics point to the cost and the lack of public tender for the groups involved. One event in eight days’ time will attract 10,000 people.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is expected to have the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccination today. Aged 66, she is eligible for the AZ jab in Germany. Meanwhile, the president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, had her vaccination in Brussels yesterday.

Skybird
04-16-21, 07:53 AM
The planned emergency brake in germany most likely will face a crushing barrage of complaints and challenges by constitution advocates before the Constitutional High Court. Even the scientific research service if the Bundestag warns that it has very severe doubts that some of the measures will survice a recheck by Karlsruhe.



The chief of Biontech and head behind the developement of the vaccine says a third vaccination most likely will be necessary and from then on once per year.


Second jab for people having gotten a first shot by AstraZenca, mostly will get a second shot with another vaccine. AZ definitely has ended up on a dead track over here, the company has no more bright future in Germany, and other countries.

Jimbuna
04-16-21, 07:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMj7ldR-hK4

Skybird
04-16-21, 08:19 AM
https://theconversation.com/did-the-uk-outsmart-the-eu-over-astrazeneca-vaccines-157926



s a matter of law, both the EU and the UK have a case. Both contracts contain a “best reasonable efforts” (https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/17/europe/uk-astrazeneca-vaccine-contract-details-intl/index.html) clause, which is intended to cover the situation where force majeure – a legal term for an event outside one’s control – makes full delivery impossible or unreasonably difficult. But signing a preferential contract with someone else is not force majeure: it is just selling the same stuff twice. AstraZeneca’s EU obligations are not diminished by its promises to the UK. But if AstraZeneca had distributed the output of its four European plants equally between the EU and UK, as the EU would like, it would be violating the UK contract. It appears to have promised too much to too many people.
The question is why AstraZeneca chose to breach the EU contract rather than the UK one. This will be largely because the UK deal had much harsher penalties (https://www.politico.eu/article/the-key-differences-between-the-eu-and-uk-astrazeneca-contracts/) – the EU deal has no penalties beyond non-payment and requires informal negotiation rather than litigation when problems arise.
So the UK did not contract better in the sense that it has a right to the vaccines it is obtaining; under the law governing the EU contract it does not. Rather, it seems that the UK contracted better in the sole sense that its contract was more expensive to breach.

It comes down to what I always said: the EU negotiated poorly, naively, and got the corresponding fruits of this weak effort. Or as Jim said: the spat is between the eU and AZ, not the EU and the UK. We agree there. Congratulations to the UK for playing a smarter and more determined hand.


https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/80-prozent-der-vakzine-sind-importiert-london-feiert-und-trinkt-dank-impfstoffen-aus-der-eu/27093932.html



„Europäische Handelspartner neigen dazu, Verträge als Mittel zu sehen, Vertrauen und langfristige Beziehungen aufzubauen. Im angloamerikanischen Raum hingegen sollen sie vermeiden, dass Vertrauen überhaupt benötigt wird“, sagt Davies.Die Folge ist, dass der Vertrag, den die EU mit Astrazeneca abgeschlossen hat, laut Davies mehr Interpretationsspielraum lässt, wo der mit Großbritannien expliziter ist. AstraZeneca zum Beispiel drohen hohe Strafen, falls das Unternehmen die Bestellungen des Vereinigten Königreichs nicht liefert. Bei Produktionsengpässen müssen nach dem Vertrag alle Lieferungen an andere Kundinnen (also z.B. die EU) umgeleitet werden, um Großbritanniens Anspruch zu erfüllen.
Die EU hingegen gehe davon aus, dass bei Produktionsengpässen jeder Vertragspartner proportional weniger Impfstoff erhielte, analysiert Davies. Falls dies nicht eingehalten werde, werde auch nicht gezahlt – ansonsten habe das Pharmaunternehmen aber wenig zu befürchten, erklärt der Jurist weiter.

The first sentence cannot be overestimated: "European trading partners tend to see contracts as a means of building trust and long-term relationships. In the Anglo-American region, on the other hand, they should avoid the need for trust at all."

A German proverb says: "Verträge sind dazu da, daß man sich verträgt" ("contracts are for people to get along with each other correctly/nicely/peacefully"). At court, its also the letter of the law or the fineprint in the treaty that decides the case, not the mere emotional feeling of one side about what is fair or just. I feel more for the Anglosaxon way of seeing things.


There is also anothe rGerman proverb: "Vertrauen ist gut. Kontrolle ist besser." (Trust is kind/good. Control is better.)

Jimbuna
04-16-21, 08:38 AM
I'll go so far as to add I think BOTH sides need to sort their future relationship out because twelve more months of this stupidity and I can see the treaty being torn up.

Skybird
04-16-21, 08:52 AM
From the Tagesspiegel link before:


In an international comparison, according to a list by the Center for Global Health at the University Institute for International Studies and Development in Geneva, Great Britain ranks third with spending of 500 million US dollars on vaccine development. Two other states are responsible for nearly half of total vaccine development spending. The USA occupies first place with almost 2.2 billion US dollars, and second place with 1.5 billion US dollars: Germany.

mapuc
04-16-21, 10:31 AM
Read following in the news here

Pfizer's CEO: An additional vaccine may be needed in
addition to the other two

Vaccine manufacturer sees possible need for both a third dose of covid-19 vaccine as well as an annual re-vaccination.

Individuals who have been fully vaccinated with the covid-19 vaccine from Pfizer "are likely" to have an additional within a year in order to remain protected against the virus.

Markus

Skybird
04-16-21, 11:59 AM
I can see the treaty being torn up.
Tearing it up could look like a treat to some! :D

Jimbuna
04-16-21, 01:36 PM
Tearing it up could look like a treat to some! :D

I couldn't possibly know what you're alluding to :)

Jimbuna
04-16-21, 01:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66NpHHy5xW0

Not sure how true the above is but Macron eh? Ultimatum eh? It was only last week having heard the 41 gun salute in Calais that brought about Macron to ring Boris offering to surrender...just in case :O:

Jimbuna
04-16-21, 01:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jFYrpAkQwA

Catfish
04-16-21, 02:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66NpHHy5xW0

Not sure how true the above is but Macron eh? Ultimatum eh? It was only last week having heard the 41 gun salute in Calais that brought about Macron to ring Boris offering to surrender...just in case :O:

What has that to do with the Wuhan virus? North Ireland?

And ultimatum, what a nonsense, the "UK" (England) signed a treaty regarding Nort Ireland they are breaking again, just a bit embarrassing to be reminded? Looks like they try to delay it forever, see here (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2742606&postcount=13771).

Sorry, whatever.

Jimbuna
04-17-21, 03:57 AM
Oops! wrong thread :o:oops:

Jimbuna
04-17-21, 01:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr7AO2NvalI

Jimbuna
04-17-21, 01:16 PM
The number of people who have died worldwide in the Covid-19 pandemic has surpassed three million, according to Johns Hopkins University.

Almost 140 million cases have been recorded since the pandemic began.

The US, India and Brazil - the countries with the most recorded infections - have accounted for more than a million deaths between them, according to Johns Hopkins University.

https://i.postimg.cc/mg0y8hy1/118091215-1ab9c5ea-d22f-4be9-b5fd-0b2e5f82cbb7.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

d@rk51d3
04-18-21, 03:04 AM
Meanwhile in a galaxy far far away.............. err, Space, the final frontier.......... no, wait..........AUSTRALIA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oUaO8SL_Vc&t=144s

Jimbuna
04-18-21, 07:01 AM
Sputnik V: How Russia's Covid vaccine is dividing Europe

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56735931

Jimbuna
04-18-21, 12:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FpMpYJ2AAU

mapuc
04-18-21, 01:34 PM
You know thinking about my own life in this Corona pandemic I have come to following conclusions
that I either:

1. So far been extremely lucky and not got infected
2. Have been infected but I'm one of these 80 % who suffered very lightly or none
3. I'm immune-There are people who are immun towards this Corona.

Markus

Catfish
04-18-21, 03:41 PM
Umm i know it's all flowers and triumph and Johnson leadership, but.. really?

https://i.imgur.com/rViPgM9l.mp4

https://imgur.com/rViPgM9
A video, you have to click on it..

Lockdown in 5 -4- -3- 2- ---

Reece
04-18-21, 09:36 PM
Meanwhile in a galaxy far far away.............. err, Space, the final frontier.......... no, wait..........AUSTRALIA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oUaO8SL_Vc&t=144s

Our beloved prime minister!! :up:

Very well made! :yep:

Skybird
04-19-21, 05:41 AM
The Neuer Zürcher Zeitung writes on the changes in the pharma industry:
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The corona crisis has the pharmaceutical multinationals at a loss

Many leading drug manufacturers only play an outsider role in the fight against the pandemic. This is symptomatic of the more difficult situation facing Big Pharma.


In the coming weeks vaccination should finally move forward in large parts of Europe. If the forecasts of the manufacturers and the individual countries are to be believed, larger volumes of cans should gradually become available. -

The stars among the providers are Moderna and Biontech, of all things, two biotechnology companies that hardly anyone in the pharmaceutical industry knew before the outbreak of the pandemic. In 2019, the two companies combined did not even have $ 200 million in sales. They were thus tiny - in a drug market, the total turnover of which is now around 900 billion dollars. -

Billions for Biontech and Moderna -

According to estimates by financial analysts, they now have revenues of $ 27 billion. Another 20 billion could be added in 2022. An estimated total of $ 25 billion in profit will remain in their coffers this year and next. -

How did two young companies that had previously made losses year after year manage to go from beggar to king, so to speak? Moderna and Biontech undoubtedly benefited from the fact that, since their founding eleven and thirteen years ago, respectively, they have focused on vaccines based on messenger RNA technology, which has since become so superior. All they had to do was direct the focus of their work towards a new disease. As young companies with structures that were barely stuck, it was also possible for them to react quickly and flexibly. The priorities were quickly set and everything was subordinated to the development of a vaccine against Sars-CoV-2. -

The companies also cleverly used the possibility of digitization and, in particular, artificial intelligence to accelerate clarifications and to be able to set up clinical studies more quickly. Billions in government grants, primarily from the USA, as well as extensive advance orders from numerous countries ensured that there was no lack of financial leeway. This enabled the companies not only to press ahead with their research activities at full speed, but also - at the same time - to invest large amounts of money in advance in setting up production at specialized third-party companies. -

Sanofi and Merck & Co. lagging behind -

Previously leading providers in the vaccine business had a much harder time in comparison. It is difficult to judge from the outside what the reason was. Was it just bad luck that, with the French group Sanofi and the US group Merck & Co., two representatives of Big Pharma were thrown back early on in a decisive match? This may have been a factor, but it is very likely that long decision-making processes, which are typical for large drug manufacturers, prevented the heavyweights of the industry from getting off to a quick start. -

US group Pfizer was luckier than Sanofi and Merck & Co. However, the company, which has already happily promised its shareholders this year's sales of at least fifteen billion dollars from the corona vaccination business, acts primarily as a partner of Biontech. Pfizer researchers helped bring the vaccine development quickly over the home straight, but the crucial preparatory work had been done in the laboratories of the Mainz-based biotechnology company. -

Beatings for AstraZeneca -

The pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca managed, like the US multinational Johnson & Johnson, to successfully smuggle its vaccine through the approval process, at least in the EU. The British-Swedish company has not won any laurels for this - on the contrary. Reports of very rare but serious side effects have had a detrimental effect on the image of the product. In addition, the management had to listen to sharp criticism from European capitals because delivery promises were not kept. -

At the beginning of the pandemic a good year ago, the heads of many pharmaceutical companies were still hopeful that they would be able to provide solutions to quickly alleviate the situation. It is true that hardly any large drug manufacturers dared to develop vaccines that were not already prominent or - like AstraZeneca - at least marginally active in the vaccine business. However, most pharmaceutical companies screened their portfolios for active ingredients that can possibly also be used against Covid-19. However, none of these attempts brought a resounding success. The world is still eagerly waiting for therapeutics that can be used widely and as cheaply as possible. -

Late insight at Novartis -

As far as the vaccine business is concerned, various pharmaceutical multinationals now see themselves in the unfamiliar position of merely acting as suppliers. The Basel group Novartis, for example, works as a bottler for Biontech. The realization of having to make a contribution to the faster production of the Covid-19 vaccines came late. For a long time the industry seemed to think that this could be left to contract manufacturers like Lonza. Novartis published the announcement of its cooperation with Biontech at the end of January 2021. Sanofi, Bayer, Merck & Co. and GlaxoSmithKline only announced in the past three months that they would support manufacturers of the currently most promising vaccines. -

However, one or the other pharmaceutical company should have come to the conclusion that it doesn't hurt to have at least one foot in the door in the business with the new types of vaccines. In particular, vaccines based on messenger RNA technology are predicting a golden future by a growing number of market observers. It is hoped that they could also be used in cancer treatment in particular. -

The vaccine business is becoming more attractive -

Before the pandemic, the vaccination business was spurned by large parts of the pharmaceutical industry. Only four providers (GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, Merck & Co., Sanofi) shared 80 percent of the market. The verdict was that the price pressure was too strong (mainly because of the large number of vaccinations given primarily to children in populous emerging and developing countries) and the production process was too complex. But viewed in a new light, vaccines appear much more attractive. With vaccines against cancer, providers would have significantly more pricing power than with vaccines against polio, mumps or measles. In connection with Sars-CoV-2, business with so-called boosters is also considered lucrative. These boosters, which are supposed to help ward off future mutations of the virus, are likely to be significantly more expensive than the basic vaccinations currently being administered. -

Increasing income from the marketing of vaccines would also be convenient for the pharmaceutical industry insofar as other growth areas are rare. The drug manufacturers are faced with the challenge that numerous important therapeutic areas such as the treatment of rheumatic diseases, multiple sclerosis or diabetes hardly promise any increasing income due to the growing influence of copycat products. -

Biotech companies are more innovative -

Business with cancer drugs and - related to this - with the treatment of rare diseases are still showing the growth potential. However, in this area, as has now also been shown with the corona vaccines, primarily smaller biotech companies instead of the large pharmaceutical companies stand out. Despite lower research budgets, they seem to be able to produce innovations much better. It is significant that of the 17,500 new drugs that were being developed around the world at the beginning of last year, only five percent came from Big Pharma - in 2010 it was fourteen percent. -

It also fits that the large pharmaceutical manufacturers are increasingly dependent on the help of smaller providers if they want to bring new drugs onto the market. Now only about 50 percent (instead of 80 percent as ten years ago) of their newly approved products come from their own laboratories. Everything else is due to acquisitions or collaborations. - Financial markets react negatively Many pharmaceutical companies have to put up with the accusation of relying primarily on the preservation of vested rights. The industry has made it into the habit of imposing high annual price increases in its main sales market, the USA, for old but still patented preparations and to defend itself against competition from generics with all legal means. -

This defensive strategy contributes to a negative perception that is increasingly being carried over to the financial markets. The Nasdaq Biotechnology Index, the most important barometer of the biotechnology industry for investors, has long since recovered from the stock market crash in March last year. This cannot be said of the shares of most of the major pharmaceutical companies. -

Better slim than cumbersome -

Investors seem to have realized that drug providers with lean structures promise more chances of success. In fact, the marketing of modern cancer drugs, which are mostly tailored to specific patient groups, no longer needs a large sales apparatus. And the production can also be delegated to third-party companies - just like with the vaccines. -

The market capitalizations of Moderna and Biontech have meanwhile risen sharply since the first success reports of the two companies on the vaccine front. They now reach over $ 60 billion and more than $ 30 billion. If a big pharma representative should come up with the idea of launching a takeover offer, he would have to dig deep into his pocket.


https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/impfstoffe-biontech-und-moderna-lassen-big-pharma-alt-aussehen-ld.1610851

Jimbuna
04-19-21, 01:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gGhTWrpQlo

mapuc
04-19-21, 01:14 PM
As the vaccination proceed the number of death will decrease.

Especially in the States.

Number of infected my be status quo and decreasing slowly.

Markus

Jimbuna
04-19-21, 01:45 PM
India will be on the UK international travel red list from 04:00 BST on Friday.

Delhi begins week-long lockdown after a weekend curfew failed to halt record spike in cases overwhelming health services.

India has had over 200,000 cases a day since 15 April - with 1,620 new deaths reported on Sunday.

Health officials investigating whether India variant might spread more easily and evade vaccines.

103 cases of the variant have been found in the UK, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said.

UK PM Boris Johnson has cancelled his planned trip to India next week.

More than 10 million UK adults have had two doses of a vaccine.

UK records its lowest number of daily Covid deaths since 7 September - four - and 2,963 new confirmed cases.

Jimbuna
04-19-21, 01:51 PM
In Portugal, shopping centres have reopened for the first time in two months in most areas, and all pupils are now back in school. The government is easing a lockdown imposed in mid-January. Back then Portugal was among the worst-hit countries in Europe. Cafes and restaurants can serve customers indoors too now, while restricting numbers.

In Switzerland restaurants have reopened outdoor terraces and people can return to the gym. It is seen as a calculated gamble by the government, as infections are still rising, and there is some opposition from scientists and the general public. Infections are rising fairly slowly and vaccinations are speeding up.

Turkey had its highest daily death toll from Covid on Sunday – 318, with 55,800 new infections in 24 hours, officials said. The total infected in Turkey in the pandemic has risen to nearly 4.3m

Germany’s infection rate nationally has risen to 165 per 100,000 people across seven days, the RKI medical centre says. A national emergency brake – meaning tighter lockdown measures – kicks in when the rate passes 100.

Jimbuna
04-19-21, 01:53 PM
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Jimbuna
04-20-21, 07:14 AM
Scotland's first minister confirms the most significant changes to the nation's Covid restrictions since it went back into lockdown just after Christmas.

Pubs, restaurants, gyms and non-essential shops will reopen on Monday.

In Wales, six people from up to six different households will be allowed to meet outside again from Saturday.

UK PM Boris Johnson is to hold a Downing Street press briefing at 17:00 BST

From Friday, India will be on the UK international travel "red" list amid fears over a new variant.

Its addition to the list may be too late as a new variant in India is "more transmissible", warns former UK chief scientific adviser Mark Walport.

A review of policing says officers sometimes struggled to enforce lockdown restrictions because of a lack of clarity from ministers.

Jimbuna
04-20-21, 07:21 AM
Austria is to oversee the distribution of 651,000 Pfizer/BioNTech doses to six countries in the Western Balkans as part of an EU scheme. Serbia already has a successful rollout so many of the doses will go to Bosnia-Herzegovina, Northern Macedonia and Albania. Bosnia has the lowest vaccination coverage in Europe. Some of the doses will go to Kosovo and Montenegro.

Denmark is already using a corona pass to allow people to enter hairdressers and beauty salons, but now France has adapted a mobile phone app to enable people to travel to other French territories such as Corsica and Reunion. The TousAntiCovid (everyone against Covid) app can now be updated to show a negative Covid test or proof of vaccination. Travellers will still be allowed to provide their documents on paper.

All eyes in the Netherlands will be on the government’s evening press conference where a cautious relaxation of Covid measures is on the cards. The cabinet is expected to agree to reopening café and bar terraces under strict rules and an end to a controversial overnight curfew.

The EU’s medicines agency is set to announce the conclusion of its investigation into the safety of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine today. It’s reviewed four cases of rare blood clots, one of them fatal. The decision is significant as many EU countries have build the vaccine into their rollout.

French underwear shops have found a novel way of protesting against continued lockdown restrictions. Eight independent stores have sent Prime Minister Jean Castex some lingerie in a symbolic but humorous protest, complaining that it’s not their stores where Covid is circulating.

Students aged under 18 in Slovenia will get vaccinated ahead of their final exams -17,000 students are due to take final exams from next month but fewer than 3,000 have registered for vaccinations so far.

Jimbuna
04-20-21, 02:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Xk9jX4JRA

Jimbuna
04-21-21, 12:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_-8uTslpfQ

Skybird
04-22-21, 08:43 AM
The vaccine by AstraZeneca will get renamed as "Vaxzevria" in some weeks.

It seems the company is not happy with its selfmade image and wants to play another deception card...

Onkel Neal
04-22-21, 08:50 AM
https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/covid-after-vaccinated-breakthrough-cases-20210422.html

“The psychological effect of getting the virus after a year of being very, very careful and getting vaccinated got to me,” Gessen, 54, said in an interview with Kaiser Health News. “It took me about three weeks to feel back to normal.”

Yeah, that's me, I can imagine that. It always felt like the sensible and patriotic thing to do, be careful and make the necessary sacrifices to slow the spread. I passed on a lot of social activity last year, if not me, who? and now that I am fully vaccinated, I have resumed normal activities. But at the tail end of last year I had some worry that after all my care, it would be hell to catch it and spend a month in the hospital. :o

Skybird
04-22-21, 09:02 AM
Neal, the main effect of the vaccines so far seems to be that they do not necessarily prevent infection, but prevent "infection" translating into "serious case, hospitalization, (death)". In Germany there is for exmaple currently a wave of infections in a careteking home for the elder who all are vaccinated since weeks and months. The point is none of them is seriously ill where before most of them would have gotten hospitalized and many would have died.

We will most likely, need additional jabs later on. And then yearly jabs for new mutations.

Boost your immune system, guys. Mankind deals with virusses since millenia. 8% of our genome is form virusses. Strengthen it with nutrition and nutrients, modulate it so that it produces less inflammatory and more non-inflammatory zytokines. Reduce silent inflammation in your body by reducing inflammatory fat consumption (Omega 6). Take control of your overweight if you have any, and your existing health conditions where existent, and your diabetes if you have it.

Every such measurement shifts chances and probabilities in your favour a bit.

Be sceptical on the established eating and nutrition recommendations. Most of what they say most likely will make you sick - and the food industry smile over its profits.

Take control of your health. Learn to question your doctors. They are just humans. They are no know-it-alls. They are victims of the paradigms they had to submit to when they were students. Precondition for that is that you get some education on health and eating yourself - preferrably from outside the existing medical institutions' paradigms - because all too often these are highly problematic.

Thats why I opened up that "healt" thread. To get you started. It is not "complete" and never will be. But its a start for your journey.

Onkel Neal
04-22-21, 09:24 AM
Yes, that's my understanding too. Hopefully there will be no long term side effects.

After spending a week in pure misery in the hospital about 4 years back, I have a fresh memory of that and wanted to take no chances that it could happen with covid.

Skybird
04-22-21, 10:00 AM
Thats the price we have to accept: we cannot know long term effects as long as no long times have passed. Normally vaccine development takes multiple times as long as was taken this time. And that is due to studying the long term risks. We could not afford the time this time. We need to accept the risk. Its real, but I have a feeling of that is is anything but monumental. The risk of facing Corona without vaccination imo outclasses the possible risks of the vaccines' long term effects by many, many factors.

Jimbuna
04-22-21, 10:39 AM
The figures here in the UK are beginning to look very positive.

https://i.postimg.cc/Cx8D2G4H/118146280-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-21apr-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/bZzsD2Ws)

AVGWarhawk
04-22-21, 10:40 AM
https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/covid-after-vaccinated-breakthrough-cases-20210422.html



Yeah, that's me, I can imagine that. It always felt like the sensible and patriotic thing to do, be careful and make the necessary sacrifices to slow the spread. I passed on a lot of social activity last year, if not me, who? and now that I am fully vaccinated, I have resumed normal activities. But at the tail end of last year I had some worry that after all my care, it would be hell to catch it and spend a month in the hospital. :o

One still needs to keep the social distancing and mask. The vaccine will help you get over the virus much faster or you may not feel any affects from the virus at all. I have not had the vaccine yet. I'm giving it more time for any issues that may present themselves. (blood clotting J&J). Probably by June I will get the vaccine.

ET2SN
04-22-21, 03:14 PM
The longer you wait to get vaccinated means the longer I have to wait to go a bar and grill to get hammered. :k_confused:

Man up and get your shots. :salute:

I have to inject Interferon every other day. That stuff already messes with my immune system, the vaccine was an unknown, but I still got in line after the high risk patients got their first shot.

Seriously, what's the worst thing that could happen?

AVGWarhawk
04-22-21, 03:23 PM
The longer you wait to get vaccinated means the longer I have to wait to go a bar and grill to get hammered. :k_confused:

Man up and get your shots. :salute:

I have to inject Interferon every other day. That stuff already messes with my immune system, the vaccine was an unknown, but I still got in line after the high risk patients got their first shot.

Seriously, what's the worst thing that could happen?

My guess is you will be asking everyone you come into contact with you will if they have a card proving they are vaccinated? That is what you are stating by having to "wait " to go to the bar and get hammered. You are vaccinated. Go to the bar and grill. This is the reason you got vaccinated correct? Your vaccination will help you get over the virus quicker and or keep you from feeling sick from the virus yet you still carry the virus(contagious). Your mask must still be worn. Social distance must remain. Clean hands.

ET2SN
04-22-21, 03:49 PM
No, I got vaccinated so it reduces my risk of transmitting the stupid virus to someone who could wind up in the ICU. Subtle difference. The sooner we get to 80% of the population having the vaccine, the sooner we can get things back to normal.

Unless you enjoy sitting in house and collecting stimulus checks while the society burns, get in line and get the shot. :up:

AVGWarhawk
04-22-21, 03:54 PM
No, I got vaccinated so it reduces my risk of transmitting the stupid virus to someone who could wind up in the ICU. Subtle difference. The sooner we get to 80% of the population having the vaccine, the sooner we can get things back to normal.

Unless you enjoy sitting in house and collecting stimulus checks while the society burns, get in line and get the shot. :up:

From my understanding the vaccine does not reduce the risk of spreading it to others at this juncture. Scientists do not know yet how effective the vaccine is at not spreading the virus to others. A vaccinated individual can still contract the virus and spread the virus but show no effects from the virus and or have some effects from the virus. They don't even know if you'll need a booster in 6 months or a new shot every year at this time.

Skybird
04-22-21, 05:11 PM
The many additonal buying of vaccines make themsleves felt, if the promised deliveries are kept. In Germany it is planned that from June on the prioritizing according to age or system relevance will be skipped and everybody can subscribe for wanting to get the jab. The waiting lists will be long, however, I assume. I plan to get it via my house doctor, not via a vaccination centre. If it goes according to this latest plan, thigns will happen a bit earlier than I expected two or three months ago.



Currently one in five has gotten the first jab, and one in twenty got two jabs. Germany, master of organisation and proficiency, in the year 2021.



Germany has also placed an order for 30 million doses of Sputnik V.



Most doses bought will be the BionTech vaccine. Why not, after all it was developed over here.



AZ is being phased out, so to speak, the stocks there are will be used on 60+ years old, but no new ones will be bought. People below 60 who got a first AZ jab, will get another vaccine for the second.


And when we all got it, the new Indian variation knocks on our doors and renders the vaccine useless! :D Yeah, I am always an optimist. :O:

Onkel Neal
04-22-21, 11:45 PM
One still needs to keep the social distancing and mask. The vaccine will help you get over the virus much faster or you may not feel any affects from the virus at all. I have not had the vaccine yet. I'm giving it more time for any issues that may present themselves. (blood clotting J&J). Probably by June I will get the vaccine.


I don't need to social distance or mask up, I'm vaccinated. You may need me to social distance or mask up. ;)

I suggest you get vaccinated or social distance and mask up.

.

Buddahaid
04-23-21, 12:11 AM
One still needs to keep the social distancing and mask. The vaccine will help you get over the virus much faster or you may not feel any affects from the virus at all. I have not had the vaccine yet. I'm giving it more time for any issues that may present themselves. (blood clotting J&J). Probably by June I will get the vaccine.


The blood clot business is of such low occurrence it's
insignificant. Worry more about being struck by a meteor.

Skybird
04-23-21, 05:30 AM
I don't need to social distance or mask up, I'm vaccinated. You may need me to social distance or mask up. ;)

I suggest you get vaccinated or social distance and mask up.

.
Yes.


Fo anothe rperspective, however, watch out for that Indian mutation that currently causes havoc in india. Its a double-mutation, and indicatiosn are mounting that it may defeat our current vaccines. If so, it is only a question of time until it becomes the new dominant form. It wa slike this with the British variation, too. It started outside Britain just slowly, now dominates.
Germany has already seen first cases of the Indian mutation.



Lets hope they get a hold on this one fast. Its indispensable to control this one tightly and super-fast.

AVGWarhawk
04-23-21, 05:35 AM
I don't need to social distance or mask up, I'm vaccinated. You may need me to social distance or mask up. ;)

I suggest you get vaccinated or social distance and mask up.

.

The vaccine is not an automatic shut off for the pandemic. You are at a lesser risk. No matter. Depending on ones state of residency a mask, smaller group gathering, social distancing and a finite number of people in a place of business are still in effect. No matter if vaccinated or not.

AVGWarhawk
04-23-21, 05:38 AM
The blood clot business is of such low occurrence it's
insignificant. Worry more about being struck by a meteor.

J&J has more problems than just blood clots. The facility in Baltimore has been found to be far below standards for manufacturing anything medicinal and unqualified personnel.https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/21/fda-finds-poor-conditions-at-baltimore-plant-that-ruined-millions-of-doses-of-jj-covid-vaccine.html

Jimbuna
04-23-21, 05:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKM7YpAf8CE

Jimbuna
04-23-21, 05:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nQbVIsvsJU

Jimbuna
04-23-21, 05:46 AM
The chances of becoming infected by Covid fell sharply after a first dose of either the AstraZeneca or Pfizer vaccines, a UK study has found.

The vaccines worked just as well in the over-75s and those with underlying health conditions, as other people.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) and University of Oxford research also found a strong antibody response in all age groups from either jab.

Everyone showed some response to both vaccines, they said.

The research, contained in two studies which have not yet been peer-reviewed or published, is based on virus tests from 370,000 people in the general UK population - one of the largest to date.

It provides further real-world evidence that the vaccines being used in the UK to protect against Covid-19 are effective at protecting people against coronavirus infections.

In the first study, people who had been vaccinated with a single dose of either the Oxford-AstraZeneca or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines were 65% less likely to get a new Covid infection.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56844220

Skybird
04-23-21, 05:58 AM
A study from India, controlled clinical trial and double blindness and all the bells and whistles, showed that giving hospitalised patients 60 thousand units of Vitamine D per day for one week reduced the rate of extremely severe cases with risk of imminent death dramatically from 60% to 20%.

Telling this by secondary source.

Another apparently relevant therapeutical option to boost your immune system and especially fight Covid 19, is heat. Get your core temperature up, get warm, and very much so. Do sauna. Use infrared radiators. Do not just warm your skin, but warm up the inside of your body. This helps, amongst others, to get interferone production up. I heard this for a longer time now but did not spend time to listen, now I did, and I got the impressison there is more in this than I initially thought. It makes sense, anyway, if you think of the function of a fever your body builds up when being ill, it does so to make the place of your body more uncomfortable for an invading bacterium or virus. If you think you got ill, heat yourself up, do not fight fevers as long as they do not reach into life-threatening temperature ranges, take ahot shower and imemdoiateoly poack yurslef into bed afterwards, with a hot water-bottle. I have since years the habit that whenf I caught up something, i stay in bed and heat myself up even though it feels unpleasant, may give me a headache, makes me soaking wet with sweat, but I push this process artificially. And it helps! I accept an uncomfortable night with wet cushion in a sweat-soaking bed, I push it up, I never have meds against fever in my household.

However, since I started my supplementation prgram one year ago, I have not gotten ill with anything since then. Before that, I had 3-4 colds a year.

AVGWarhawk
04-23-21, 06:04 AM
Yes.


Fo anothe rperspective, however, watch out for that Indian mutation that currently causes havoc in india. Its a double-mutation, and indicatiosn are mounting that it may defeat our current vaccines. If so, it is only a question of time until it becomes the new dominant form. It wa slike this with the British variation, too. It started outside Britain just slowly, now dominates.
Germany has already seen first cases of the Indian mutation.



Lets hope they get a hold on this one fast. Its indispensable to control this one tightly and super-fast.

There is a nasty little problem in India that does not get much of a mention. I believe Iran is having a resurgence.

Skybird
04-23-21, 06:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obPAKgwueGE

For heaven's sake, listen to this man. I can understand if you guys do not believe me when I repeat my same things over and over again because you know I am not a trained doctor, but this man is, and all what I try to say, he says, too, but with the full weight of his academically trained and practically experienced background, he is a Covid front fighter. You may not want to believe me, but for heaven's sake, listen to and believe him.

You are safe with daily doses of Vitamine D of up to 40 thousand units, but you probably will not have additional benefit from doses beyond 20 thousand, or from taking it without magnesium, because what you swallow as a pill is just the inactive storage form of it your body does not actively make use of, it must get activated and turned into the metabolistically active form, and that does not happen without lots of magnesium. Its essential. Without magnesium, taking Vitamine D pills is a complete waste. - Personally, I take 12500 I.E. per day. (10K and 15K in turns, to consume up an old stock of smaller pills).


Vitamines D, A (as pure Retinol drops), C, Magnesium, Zinc, Selenium, and you have an immunity booster for starters. get rid of inflammatory Omega-6 excesses. Increase anti-inflammatory Omega-3 levels. Avoid sweets sugars of all kinds, significantly reduce hidden sugars in carbs and wheat, redcue carbs. Consider slowly raising your iodine (and selenium) into the two digit milligram range (the iodine, NOT the selenium!!), but read some stuff on it before. Iodine imo is very relevant for the functining of the guts as part of the immune system, it impacts on the control of the regeneration and permeability of the mucosa, additionally it has anti-carcinogenic value - but only when you take it at doses of 15 mg minimum and then upwards.

Skybird
04-23-21, 06:20 AM
There is a nasty little problem in India that does not get much of a mention. I believe Iran is having a resurgence.
Whatever, we have already cases in Europe and in the world, outside India. We know it is a double mutation changing the spike protein by which it hooks up with a cell and breaks into it. It is more infectous, more lethal and it looks as if our current vaccines do not stop it, it reduces the virus' vulnerability for neutraliozation.



Look for B.1.617. Its the driving force behind the surging numbers in India. The wHO tries to downplay it a bit, still, but its not the first time they do somethign silly.

Jimbuna
04-23-21, 06:42 AM
Italian ministers will finalise a plan from PM Mario Draghi for an enormous €221.5bn (£192bn) recovery package of investment and structural reform. All but €30bn of the money is from EU grants and cheap loans, so the package has to be approved by the EU first: it covers six areas including energy transition away from carbon fuels; digitalisation and innovation, infrastructure projects, education, social inclusion and health.

Twenty Indian nursing students who recently arrived in Belgium via Paris have contracted the Indian variant of Covid. They all tested negative in PCR tests before leaving India and all gave a negative rapid test on arrival in Paris, before going into Belgian quarantine. Belgian experts believe they were infected by one of the students on the bus from Paris to the towns of Aalst and Leuven. The chances they have infected anyone else are small.

Hungary’s prime minister, Viktor Orban, has said this morning that vaccination rates there will reach 40% next week and will help the country reopen further. He says anyone with a vaccination card will be able to enter cinemas, gyms, hotels and theatres. But Hungary still has high rates of infection and had to limit a plan to reopen primary schools on Monday.

The Dutch parliament has backed measures to reopen café terraces during the afternoon and lift overnight curfews, even though infection numbers have reached their highest numbers since early January, with almost 9,700 cases announced on Thursday. Caretaker Prime Minister Mark Rutte says five million vaccinations will have been completed by the end of this week.

French Prime Minister Jean Castex believes the third wave has peaked in France, with case numbers down 17% in the past 10 days. Nursery and primary schools will reopen on Monday with a strict testing protocol, and older children will start going back on 3 May.

Jimbuna
04-23-21, 06:45 AM
Hairdressers, close-contact services and outdoor visitor attractions are reopening in Northern Ireland.

It's the final part of the UK to allow these business to reopen after lockdown.

UK and Irish nationals arriving from India must quarantine in a hotel, as new travel restrictions come into force.

At least two hospitals in Delhi are running out of oxygen, as India struggles with second wave.

India's medical system has collapsed and cremations may soon have to be held on roads due to lack of space, a charity worker says.

Welsh pubs and restaurants could open indoors from 17 May, as plans to ease restrictions are brought forward.

Indoor group activities and swimming lessons will also be allowed from 3 May in Wales - two weeks earlier than planned.

Australian city Perth enters a snap three-day lockdown after an international traveller allowed to leave quarantine then tests positive.

UK government borrowing hit £303.1bn last year - the highest level since the end of World War Two.

The chances of becoming infected with Covid falls sharply after a first dose of either the Oxford or Pfizer vaccines, a study finds.

Skybird
04-23-21, 06:48 AM
Twenty Indian nursing students who recently arrived in Belgium via Paris have contracted the Indian variant of Covid. They all tested negative in PCR tests before leaving India and all gave a negative rapid test on arrival in Paris, before going into Belgian quarantine. Belgian experts believe they were infected by one of the students on the bus from Paris to the towns of Aalst and Leuven. The chances they have infected anyone else are small.




May I ask a simple, reasonable question.


WHY IS THERE STILL ALL THIS STUPID TRAVELLING HAPPENING...??? Even from and to hotspots...???

We know that our tests are far from being fail safe, and have blind spots int he time frames. The WHO even refuses to officially authorize quick self tests as sold to laymen because the reliabiltiy of these is demanded to be 80%, in fact they match only around 60-65%.


PCR tests score much better, but also are far from being fail-safe.

Skybird
04-23-21, 06:59 AM
There is a drain of nurses in Germany, since longer time, with personnel levels having been under stress already before Covid 19. Now, 3 in 10 nurses say they plan to give up their job within this year. They are done, and exhausted, and tired of it, and burnt out. Many say they also are enraged by the stupidity and irresponsibility of so many people and decision makers alike.