Wuhan virus 2020

[Rockstar]

‘I don’t want too live in your paranoid world anymore”. :har::yep:

https://youtu.be/UqPude-Zgeg

[Skybird]

Man up Nancy boys life is filled with risk so get used to it at start living it.
Jumping off the roof of a ten floor building is a risk. Walking in a park also is. Still, there is a difference.

[mapuc]

I don't think it's paranoid world. These long time side effect from Covid-19 is real and not some fairytale

Markus

[Sean C]

Jumping off the roof of a ten floor building is a risk. Walking in a park also is. Still, there is a difference.

Indeed. I'm still not vaccinated and I'm still doing well. So, either I could survive jumping off a ten story building ... or this "pandemic" is actually a walk in the park for most people.

Hmmm ... :hmmm:

EDIT: What I'd like to know is: if a few people got mugged in a park, how many others would be okay with walking in the park being totally banned for everyone?

[Rockstar]

You of course would have developed the stuff for free, and happily given it to the world, on your own expense.

Published? Maybe here, among ten thousand or so hits with this search engine alone. Trial statistics, methods, all there.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mRna+vaccine+trial+results&t=newext&atb=v1-1&ia=web

Maybe! But are you referring to the tens of thousands of documents the FDA wanted to regulate the release to 55 years before the full extent of DETAILS of the trails and how they were carried out could be revealed to the public and more importantly others in the medical field to examine? Or something else?

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/

It wasn’t until recently the lower courts demanded the FDA release data much faster. And I can almost guarantee you once THOSE documents are revealed and examined by COMPETENT medical authority instead of the usual suspects and their favorite go to media fact checker we most assuredly hear about their findings. Could be good, could be bad, could be nothing.

[August]

I hear that the instant covid tests that the feds want to mail everyone (at our expense) are not accurate if thjey are exposed to cold temps for more than a couple hours. Hows that going to work with mail delivery in northern states? I'm pretty sure the temp inside my mail box is about 20 degrees right now.:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/nzyb4bfZ/123001260-uk-card-with-vax-booster-25jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/hz15nYG3)

[mapuc]

From Tuesday Feb. 1th Denmark is after almost two years shutdown fully open-No more restriction for those living in Denmark.

Only restriction left is for those who comes from abroad-They still have to show Corona passport or proof they are tested negative.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=empdad1VBiQ

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c32vDjyNE-M

[Jimbuna]

As part of the lifting of Plan B restrictions in England, it is no longer legally compulsory to wear face masks in indoor venues.

Boris Johnson said the measures were being lifted thanks to the vaccine rollout, NHS staff, and the public response.

But Sainsbury's, John Lewis and Waitrose will continue to ask their customers in England to wear masks. Train passengers will also be asked to wear one.

Coronavirus passes are no longer needed to enter bars, restaurants and cinemas in Northern Ireland.

Covid restrictions on adult social care will be eased in England from Monday.

There will be no limit on the number of visitors allowed at care homes and self-isolation periods will be cut.

MPs are still waiting to see the findings of Sue Gray's report into lockdown parties in Downing Street.

Meanwhile, more than eight million people have tested positive for coronavirus in the Americas in the past week - a new record for the region.

The UK reported 102,292 new cases on Wednesday.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/XqjW7rmh/123015031-uk-card-with-vax-booster-26jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/mz5JmgbN)

[AVGWarhawk]

I hear that the instant covid tests that the feds want to mail everyone (at our expense) are not accurate if thjey are exposed to cold temps for more than a couple hours. Hows that going to work with mail delivery in northern states? I'm pretty sure the temp inside my mail box is about 20 degrees right now.:hmmm:

Accurate. The test kits need to be kept in climate control during transportation and when stored. BTW, the kits will be coming from China. :doh:

[mapuc]

Wasn't it from bats this Corona pandemic came ?

Markus

[August]

Wasn't it from bats this Corona pandemic came ?

Markus

Likely wouldn't have been a problem if the ChiComs hadn't weaponized it with funding from our CDC.

[mapuc]

Likely wouldn't have been a problem if the ChiComs hadn't weaponized it with funding from our CDC.

The reason to why I asked is this

A Danish citizens send a request to the Danish Serum institute and asked which animals could get infected and infect humans.

Among those animals that could get infected and infect humans is
Dog, Cat and a few more.
Animal that can't be infected and not infect humans are
Mink living in the wild, Bats and other animals.

When I read the answer posted on FB I thought-Hey wait a minute haven't we been told the origin of the virus came from a bat ?

Markus

[Rockstar]

Well mandate Nazis, because of your naive rants, ricducule, mocking, accusations and unfounded fears, all of YOU just handed over the future of our children to authoritarian leaders. In fact you looking back you sounded EXACTLEY like these little children who follow your example and will grow up to be be just like you. A bunch of mindless children, gullible, naive and afraid of your shadow and who will do exactley what they’re told, no questions asked. The perfect citizen.

Good job.

https://youtu.be/KsJ0PtXxKdU

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/T3kHyf3K/123029729-uk-card-with-vax-booster-27jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/HrytRG5m)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMLZepCMFQo

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDxkloJ-4kE

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/6ptrFLPr/123042633-uk-card-with-vax-booster-28jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/kBYRb8qG)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bza1gAc8sOA

[August]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25-iJKPA1CA


I'm surprised that none of the mandate nazis have mentioned this.

[Rockstar]

Are you talking about those who would rather see people go without health care, suffer so as not clog ‘their’ hospitals? Or the soulless selfish animals who mocked others misfortune and passing? Maybe those frightened little children who will call the police if people don’t get a vaccination? Those goose stepping mandate Nazis? :haha:

[August]

Are you talking about those who would rather see people go without health care, suffer so as not clog ‘their’ hospitals? Or the soulless selfish animals who mocked others misfortune and passing? Maybe those frightened little children who will call the police if people don’t get a vaccination? Those goose stepping mandate Nazis? :haha:


Yeah I guess few of them would want to acknowledge natural immunity turning out to be the best defense against covid after all.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9utczapsmI

[Jimbuna]

Beijing has reported its highest number of Covid-19 cases in 18 months, five days ahead of the start of the Winter Olympics in the Chinese capital.

After 20 more cases were reported in the capital, officials announced that some local areas had been locked down with residents being tested.

Separately, organisers of the Olympics reported 34 new infections within the event's "closed-loop" bubble.

Officials said it included 13 athletes or officials arriving at the airport.

Anyone testing positive is being put into isolation and only allowed to compete after getting two negative test results in 24 hours.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-60187630

[em2nought]

No plans to visit Chyna anytime soon. LOL


Don't much like the idea of being in a building with all the exits welded shut.



https://www.facebook.com/epochtimes/videos/quarantine-chinese-police-weld-door-shut-to-lock-residents-inside/196549301420631/

[Jimbuna]

Ministers will meet later to decide whether to end mandatory jabs for NHS staff in England.

Patricia Marquis, head of the Royal College of Nursing England, says mandatory vaccines are "not the way to go"

Front-line NHS workers would need a first vaccine dose by Thursday - health bosses say the policy will cause a staffing crisis.

Restrictions are being eased in care homes in England, with self-isolation periods reduced and the limit on visitors scrapped.

In Scotland, work from home advice is ending, but the government wants a "phased return to the office"

It's two years since the first Covid patients in the UK were taken into hospital.

[Skybird]

More and more experts in Germany raise doubts on that Omikron marks the beginning of the endemic "end game" of the virus, saying that the immunity quality of various strains of Covid 19 differ and may not be such that that gained by one infection may prevent the running of another strain pandemically. They say that it is absolutely possible that if Omikron is fought back down, Delta will raise its head again - or another mutation. "We simply do not know what other variants will appear in the future", they point out. They also indicate that we nevertheless must learn to balance the protection of the vulnerabel with the affordability of measurements for the economy and civil society. "Pretty much like we learned to accept a certain price to pay during every yearly flu season."
They also say however that immunity gained by triple jabs and/or natural immunization by infection will alter chnace sin faovur of the newly infected, no matter whether the nimmunity is "idela" for the infection strain, or was raised by another strain. If it is not a perfect pairing, the protection is reduced, but still relevant.

Fourth jabs are seen critical so far, after early study results from Israel are not enthusiastic about it. "Maybe the elder and vulnerable in autumn this year, but not generally all of the population", it is said. Longer intervals between jabs seem to be more efficient anyway.

[Skybird]

An infection with a normal, mild cause of Omikron only gives you several times less antibodies than a proper vaccination program, a new US study finds. Thus your gained immunity is significantly weaker.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.25.22269794v1

[mapuc]

In a Danish article it says that the new B.2 variant is far more infectious than Omicron and B.1. They still don't know if B.2 is worse than Omicron and B.1 which isn't as deadly as Delta variant.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w61TGJyABCk

[Jimbuna]

Re-infections make up one in 10 of cases in the Omicron variant wave, UK government figures show.

They are likely to be people who had Alpha or Delta more than 90 days before, and have added another half a million cases to the total.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson takes Sue Gray's report into parties in No 10 during Covid restrictions seriously, says Dominic Raab.

The government must now get on with the vaccine rollout and dealing with Ukraine, the deputy PM says.

But former Tory cabinet minister Andrew Mitchell says the crisis won't go away and is more corrosive than the MPs' expenses scandal.

Sue Gray's report identified "failures of leadership and judgment" in Downing Street.

The Met Police are investigating 12 events and say they have more than 300 photos.

Meanwhile, the government has scrapped plans to make Covid jabs compulsory for frontline NHS staff in England.

[Catfish]

Prime Minister Boris Johnson takes Sue Gray's report into parties in No 10 during Covid restrictions seriously, says Dominic Raab. [...]
I am sure he will take it VERY serious, indeed he will apologise and take FULL RESPONSIBILITY. Again.

[Jimbuna]

He will take it VERY serious, indeed he will apologise AND take FULL RESPONSIBILITY".
Which means ? :hmmm:

In the case of Boris Johnson....probably nothing.

[mapuc]

Why does he point fingers at others and not taking the blame himself

Seems like it's everyone's fault and not his.

Again if he refuse to leave-If the Parliament vote for a kick-P.M-out what then ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Why does he point fingers at others and not taking the blame himself

Seems like it's everyone's fault and not his.

Again if he refuse to leave-If the Parliament vote for a kick-P.M-out what then ?

Markus

Then he goes...simple as that.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/mkwRf5Wf/123074998-uk-card-with-vax-booster-31jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/q6zW2Q7j)

[mapuc]

Then he goes...simple as that.

My statement should have been posted in our UK-thread. And thereby you answer Jim.

I read yours and Catfish comments and may have thought I was in the UK-thread.

Markus

[Catfish]

Why does he point fingers at others and not taking the blame himself
Seems like it's everyone's fault and not his.
Maybe he has german ancestors.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK83QqbNOmU

[mapuc]

With the last days high percentage of Danes who are infected I say it was a little to early

Denmark is scraping most pandemic restrictions as the country no longer considers COVID-19 to be “a socially critical disease.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/denmark-ends-covid-19-restrictions-82595356

Today's percentage 28,52%
Number Danes who has been tested the last 24 hours = 159049
Whereof number infected is = 45366

Usually it's around 220-240000 who get tested each day here in Denmark.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

A sub-variant of Omicron has now been detected in 57 countries, the World Health Organization says.

In some countries, BA.2 now accounts for over half of sequenced Omicron cases, the WHO says.

The government has written off £8.7bn spent on PPE during pandemic, accounts show.

Items costing £673m were unusable, while £750m of equipment was not used before it expired.

Another Tory MP has called for Boris Johnson to resign, as the fallout from parties held in No 10 continues.

Tobias Ellwood says the Conservative Party is "slipping into a very ugly place"

Germany and the Czech Republic have seen record numbers of daily cases.

In France, restrictions are being eased, with face masks no longer compulsory outdoors, and an end to limits on large crowds.

On Tuesday the UK recorded a further 112,458 coronavirus cases and 219 deaths.

Tonga is to go into lockdown after a handful of Covid cases were recorded in the capital city Nuku'alofa.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.ibb.co/3026Vp7/123084486-uk-card-with-vax-booster-01feb-nc.png (https://ibb.co/7GPMBnX)

[MaDef]

Tonga is to go into lockdown after a handful of Covid cases were recorded in the capital city Nuku'alofa. They should read the report from John Hopkins, according to their study, lockdowns reduce covid-19 mortality rate by only .2%. There is lot more info in that study, but bottom line, the cost -benefit ratio isn't worth it.

[Jimbuna]

They should read the report from John Hopkins, according to their study, lockdowns reduce covid-19 mortality rate by only .2%. There is lot more info in that study, but bottom line, the cost -benefit ratio isn't worth it.

Thanks for that. I didn't know the figure was so low :up:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K2aXZ4WXXU

[AVGWarhawk]

They should read the report from John Hopkins, according to their study, lockdowns reduce covid-19 mortality rate by only .2%. There is lot more info in that study, but bottom line, the cost -benefit ratio isn't worth it.

My local politician said lockdowns work. :hmmm: He did manage to keep his winery open as it as deemed, 'essential'. :doh:

[Rockstar]

Anyone seen Mr. Science lately? :hmmm:


https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Declassified-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf

https://theintercept.com/document/2021/09/09/the-intercept-v-national-institutes-of-health/

FBI SOUGHT DOCUMENTS RELATED TO U.S.-FUNDED CORONAVIRUS RESEARCH IN CHINA

New records from the National Institutes of Health detail internal conversations involving EcoHealth Alliance’s research in Wuhan.

https://theintercept.com/2022/01/20/coronavirus-research-china-ecohealth-fbi/

THE FBI SOUGHT National Institutes of Health grant documents covering bat coronavirus research in Wuhan in spring 2020, according to emails obtained by The Intercept. The emails, released through ongoing litigation between The Intercept and the NIH, detail internal NIH conversations involving the New York-based nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance, which collaborated with the Wuhan Institute of Virology on research. The emails also contain previously unreported requests the agency made of EcoHealth Alliance as a condition for restoring a grant funding its research. While unable to provide some of the information requested by the agency, Peter Daszak, EcoHealth’s besieged president, fought fiercely to save the grant.

The new information gives an unprecedented window into the high-profile tussle between EcoHealth Alliance and the NIH, and underscores the agency’s tenuous grasp of the biosafety protocols in place in its research projects, even with a project that has since come under scrutiny for a possible link to the Covid-19 pandemic.

“There doesn’t seem to be transparent and accessible record-keeping of incident reporting,” said Filippa Lentzos, co-director of the Centre for Science and Security Studies at King’s College London, after viewing some of the emails. “That is very worrying and underscores the need for an overhaul of biosafety oversight in the United States.”

The correspondence contains letters going back to April 2020, when Trump administration officials were blaming the Wuhan Institute of Virology, without sufficient evidence, for causing the pandemic. On April 17, President Donald Trump was asked in a press conference about the NIH grant to EcoHealth Alliance, under which the Chinese lab was a partner. He responded, “We will end that grant very quickly.” Two days later, Michael Lauer, NIH deputy director for extramural research, informed Daszak that the agency was suspending grant funds to the Wuhan Institute of Virology and instructed his group to cease providing grant money to the institute. On April 24, according to a letter included in the new communications, Lauer followed up with the news that the NIH was terminating the entire grant because it did not “align with the program goals and agency priorities.” He told EcoHealth Alliance officials that nearly $370,000 needed to be remitted back to the NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, with their access to the remaining grant funds restricted “effective immediately.” (Politico reported the existence of the letter that same month, and Science later published an excerpt of it.)

The confrontation earned Daszak sympathy in the press and from other scientists. NIH officials, meanwhile, refuted the possibility of a lab origin, at least in public. It would later be revealed, however, that in February 2020 NIAID Director Anthony Fauci and then-NIH Director Francis Collins had privately consulted with prominent scientists who had seriously considered the possibility of a lab origin for the pandemic, and that two months later some leading researchers still believed a lab accident was possible. “Wondering if there is something the NIH can do to help put down this very destructive conspiracy,” Collins wrote in an email to Fauci in late April, in reference to a Fox News segment mentioning the lab-origin hypothesis. While a handful of biosafety experts had openly called for scrutinizing the NIH’s funding of EcoHealth Alliance, their entreaties were largely drowned out by political wrangling.

[nikimcbee]

Anyone seen Mr. Science lately? :hmmm:


https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Declassified-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf

https://theintercept.com/document/2021/09/09/the-intercept-v-national-institutes-of-health/

FBI SOUGHT DOCUMENTS RELATED TO U.S.-FUNDED CORONAVIRUS RESEARCH IN CHINA

New records from the National Institutes of Health detail internal conversations involving EcoHealth Alliance’s research in Wuhan.

https://theintercept.com/2022/01/20/coronavirus-research-china-ecohealth-fbi/


So the other article seems to double down, that it's not a GMO or a bio-weapon, but requires transparency from China. ...but China isn't cooperating and being very secretive of everything. If it's just a natural virus, why all the secrecy?:k_confused:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2qSrcq-Jz0

[Rockstar]

So the other article seems to double down, that it's not a GMO or a bio-weapon, but requires transparency from China. ...but China isn't cooperating and being very secretive of everything. If it's just a natural virus, why all the secrecy?:k_confused:

I might have misunderstood, what I got from it is it looks like Mr. Science was funding research. The virus was NOT intentionally developed as a bio weapon. But there’s is a degree of confidence the virus originated from the lab and release was accidental. Unfortunately for conclusive proof of any of it China or ‘I am Science’ needs to open up.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/PrzBjxNZ/123104240-uk-card-with-vax-booster-02feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/1fXW0yG5)

[Rockstar]

Once again the hypocrisy of mandate Nazis. Do as I say not as I do. I can’t believe people in California put up with that crap. But every survey shows Democrats are like lemmings and will follow.

https://youtu.be/MNtuJi0AbiU

[ET2SN]

Thanks for that. I didn't know the figure was so low :up:

Its low unless you're in the high mortality group. :yep:

IMO, we need to be careful about using bean counting to justify pushing Granny and her wheelchair off the cliff.

[MaDef]

Its low unless you're in the high mortality group. FYI: there is always a "high mortality group". :rolleyes:

[Skybird]

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220127-could-covid-19-still-be-affecting-us-in-decades-to-come


Now scientists are keen to monitor whether the current pandemic will also trigger a higher rate of Parkinson's cases in decades to come.

"We don't know but we need to consider that this could become the case," says Patrik Brundin, a Parkinson's researcher at the Van Andel Institute, in Grand Rapids, Michigan. "There are several studies highlighting that people who have recovered from Covid often have long-term central nervous system deficits including loss of sense of smell and taste, brain fog, depression, and anxiety. The numbers are troubling."

While Sars-CoV-2 can invade brain tissue, the scientific jury remains open on whether it will contribute to neurodegenerative disease. Coronaviruses are generally known as "hit and run viruses", because they tend to cause fairly short disease, even if this proves deadly in some cases. In contrast, DNA viruses such as Epstein-Barr can linger permanently in the body and are more associated with long-term illness.

But there have been some indications in the past there might be more to coronaviruses than we perhaps suspect. In the 1990s, Canadian neurologist Stanley Fahn published a study (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41531-020-00123-0.pdf) which identified antibodies to the coronaviruses that cause the common cold in the cerebrospinal fluid of Parkinson's patients.

Over the past year, scientists like Brundin have been concerned by the emergence of a small handful of case studies describing patients who have developed what doctors term acute Parkinsonism – abnormalities such as tremors, muscle stiffness, and impaired speech – following Covid-19 infection. More research has found that some Covid-19 patients have disruptions in one of the body's most critical systems, known as the kynurenine pathway (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4482796/). This runs from the brain to the gut, and is used to produce a number of crucial amino acids required for brain health. But when it malfunctions, it can lead to the accumulation of toxins which are thought to play a role in Parkinson's disease (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33134567/).

Other neurologists, however, warn it is still far too early to draw any link between Covid-19 and Parkinson's.

[Arlo]

FYI: there is always a "high mortality group". :rolleyes:

Welcome to the point. :shucks:

[em2nought]

IMO, we need to be careful about using bean counting to justify pushing Granny and her wheelchair off the cliff.

No need to push granny off a cliff with Governor Cuomo around. :03:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K2aXZ4WXXU&t=1s

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3SBrVWL1dw

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcC_2V-5zfU

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/266M8ncM/123148417-uk-card-with-vax-booster-05feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/mcv8m1Gy)

[Skybird]

This is currently the hot talk in social media.The Israelis have completed their long-been-talked-about study about Corona and Vitamine-D, and the pharma-lobbyists already have gone to hyperactive mode to more or less denounce it to protect profit interests.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0263069#sec016

The study found that 26% of Covid-19 patients with Vitamine-D deficits died, but only 3% of those having no such deficit. It also says that people with deficits in Vitamine D have a 14 times higher risk for suffering a serious case of Covid 19 in case they get infected. Israeli commentators make the point that with that rate it would be more efficient than the vaccines.

I would remind of another point, that is that preconditions of Diabetes, cardiovascular problems, high blood pressure, obesity, all are associated with higher risks for Covid-19 severe cases - all these health issues also are associated with low Vitamine-D levels.

2020 already a super-large Indonesian study showed that almost 99% of people who died of Corona-19, had low Vitamine-D levels. If I recall correctly, their included patient number that they examined (the statistical "n") was in the six-digit range.

And I think 2021 a study from the Philippines showed a 23 times increased risk for a lethal ending of Covid-19 infections in people with too low Vitamine-D levels.

I recall that in summer 2020 there was a pre-print release for a study from Spain that again showed similiar trends in relation between low Vitamine-D levels and severity of Covid-19 infections.


There were dozens and dozens of smaller similar reports and small studies from all across the world, since summer 2020, until today. The trend of statements and observations in them was always the same.

Disclaimer: Yes, I know perfectly the difference between causality and corrrelation, please do not bother me with that dead horse again.

Vitamine D does - most likely - not "cure" Covid, and it also - probably - does not "prevent" infections, but it supports the immune reactions of your body for the better, and prevents that your body gets bombed by a too aggressive immune reply that causes too much collateral damage (the feared cytokine storm that has killed so many of patients). It also can modify 100s - and at higher saturation levels: over 1000+ - of each of your cell's included genetic switches.

Do yourself a favour: take 5000 IE Vitamine D per day, 200micrograms K2 per day, and especially 400-600mg fully resorbed Magnesium. You get a solid supply that way, and steer lightyears clear of any propagandistically hyped risks like hypercalcemia (I could go into this endless nonsense again, but I save myself from it this time). You must not worry at daily doses if not exceeding 10-20 thousand units. Personally I think even up to 40 thousand would be relatively safe, but it would be pointless in my m understanding. With 5000 units, you get a solid effect and booster over time, and a solid ammount of safety from any feared overdose effects. Your skin, under ideal conditions, would all by itself make 20 thousand units per day before it switches that process off for that day. Ever heard of a sunbather getting hypercalcemia from staying too long in the sun...?? That is so stubbornly upheld stupid rubbish, that hypercalcemia story. And the pharma-lobbyists bring it up again and again. While the historic example behind it has long since been debunked.

P.S.

Personally, I take 10 thousand IE of Vit-D per day, 400mcrgr K2 and 800mg Magnesium.

[em2nought]

Personally, I take 10 thousand IE of Vit-D per day, 400mcrgr K2 and 800mg Magnesium.



To which the mass media replies "Burn the witch!" :hmmm:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rsz_witch-stake_8804.jpg

[Arlo]

To which the mass media replies "Burn the witch!" :hmmm:



I don't see 'the mass media' waging a campaign against vitamin D. I do see certain individuals and groups doing so against vaccinating oneself against this virus. Just taking vitamins isn't enough and claiming such is an injustice :shucks:.

[Skybird]

Just taking vitamins isn't enough and claiming such is an injustice :shucks:.
Not sure whether you aimed at me, but to be safe: I have NEVER said that they are! They are another - and I claim: probably underestimated - factor amongst other factors that shift chances in favour of the infected, not more, not less. Important Viamine-D is, I think. Already the sufficient solution in itself - probably not. The other two factors that are of outstanding relevance, are vaccines, and masks inside rooms and buildings. These three have the greatest effects.

The comparison between death rates in Vit-D sufficient and insuffient patient groups speaks volumes, howver: factors 14, factor 23, the studies quoted say. That is extremely relevant, I would say, even if confounding varibales also play into it of which we do not know so far. ! ;) . It would be stupid to ignore them, even more so since we know by estalished research results regarding other deseases that Vit-C and Vit-D play a very important role in case of infectous and respiratory infection deseases, several cardiovascular illnesses, inflammations, auto-immune deseases, and cancer.

Its about money, Arlo. ;) The industry protects its immense profit margins by discreditting and declaring non-relevant the use of supplementation. They massively and fundamentally infleunce the curricula in universities and science. They influence legislation on behalf of their profit interests. You cannot patent Vitamines or Minerals. You cannot make big money with Vitamines and Minerals. The health industry wants and needs customers - and customers are not healthy but ill people. ;) Somebody needs to pay the overpaid CEO's saleries, the stockholders, somebody gotta pay the research and development of new antibiotics, vaccines, and so forth. Our health system is no health system but an illness system. It needs and wants ill people, not healthy people that generate no income and profits for the industry. Its perverse, and against humans.

It should be replaced, but I do not know with what.


I don't see 'the mass media' waging a campaign against vitamin D.
Well, I do, and very strongly. Practically every time some TV magazine or newspaper says something about Vitamine supplementation or Vit-D, and interviews some "expert", this expert blindly parrots the official slogans of the national food advisory boards or usual suspects that got their propaganda fed by industry-friendly lobbyism. The positives get neglected, the negatives get blown out of proportion, exaggerated, and debunked myths get endlessly repeated and single events get presented as the norm . And often the thinking behind the reasoning of criticising vitamine D or whatever, is simply erratic, broken, illogical: sad, but true.


The situation might differ a bit between Germany and the US. I the US, Vitamine D can be freely sold in doses of up to 50,000 IU, in Germany the limit is formally 1000 IE I think, with legal tricks and stretching definitions they can sell pills with up to 10,000 IU. Officials want us to not consume more than 1200 IE, or even 800, I am not clear on that right now, better it would be to not swallow any pill, at all, becasue its opills and pills are of evil, German Hobbits tick that way, you know. The dose for 2 year old babies, that is the recommended maximum dose! Why is that? Because babies in germany in the first 24 months or so must be supplemented with Vitamine D, its obligatory. But after those months, the obligation ends, and so does the record keeping. Bureaucracy'S logic: the dose in the last kept record - two years old, 1200 IE is the dose we from now on recommend until the end of all time, because we have no records beyond that. File closed, "Next!". But Vit-D needs depend on body weight and the ammount of fatty tissue, because Vit-D is liposulable. It is absurd to feed a muscular, big construction worker or a fat obesity patient the dose meant for a two year old little child.



Rule of thumb : 50-80 IU of Vit-D per kilogram body weight. The fattier the person, the higher that value. Somebody with 75kg thus would be safe when consuming something in the range of 4-5 thousand IU. Plus especially Magnesium, please, and also K2.


Single dose toxcity seem to start at ranges of 150 thousand IU. Daily doses taken over severla monbths seem to become toxic after thes emonth at daily doses exceeding 40-50 thousand. However, there are doctor-controlled high-dose therapies in clinics where several hundred thousand doses are given - per day - but NOBODY SHOULD DO THIS ALONE, AT HOME.

[Arlo]

Not sure whether you aimed at me,

If I'm 'aiming' I generally quote my target if I'm not the immediate response after their post (and occasionally even if). Still, if you could provide valid multiple examples of mainstream MM attacking vitamin and mineral usage alongside taking the vaccine then I'll retract. :shucks:

[Jimbuna]

The UK has approved a fifth Covid-19 vaccine, developed by US company Novavax, which offers up to 89% protection against Covid illness.

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency has said it is safe as a first and second dose in adults.

Millions of doses are being manufactured at a plant on Teesside.

Health Secretary Sajid Javid says independent scientists on the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation will now consider its use.

The vaccine could then be used immediately as part of the UK vaccination programme.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60245736

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/L8PfWVfD/123156669-uk-card-with-vax-booster-06feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/HrpVcX68)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2vdPJtDDdE

[Arlo]

https://i.postimg.cc/L8PfWVfD/123156669-uk-card-with-vax-booster-06feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/HrpVcX68)

:06:

[AVGWarhawk]

I don't see 'the mass media' waging a campaign against vitamin D. I do see certain individuals and groups doing so against vaccinating oneself against this virus. Just taking vitamins isn't enough and claiming such is an injustice :shucks:.

The vaccine is not cracked up to what is advertised. Coworker(vaccinated) died from COVID. Another coworker hospitalized with a positive diagnosis of Guillain-Barré. This diagnosis 2 weeks after a booster. Yes, new cases of Guillain-Barré has been associated to the vaccine. Vitamin D has been tagged with being helpful in getting over COVID. If anything, you'll have stronger bones! :)

[Skybird]

Compare those two quoted cases to the many millions and millions who got vaccinated and did not get anything in negative effects from it, but had their healths and often their lives saved instead.

Single cases are no valid scientific argument. Statistics describing trends in whole populations are.


@ Arlo,

if you understand German, simply enter on Google Germany "Vitamin D Supplementierung". Practically all entries you get on the first two pages, many of them professional monthly publications, from the PZ to the DÄB (German publications of German pharmacologists and German house doctors) do fearmongering of any kind and warn against taking therapeutically active doses of Vitamine-D, or doing it without doctor's prescription. Next, the usual health magazines we have on German TV. First they did not leave a single word on Vitamine-D, and now they rarely report on it, and immediately relativse anything that sounds positve, usually interview some "expert" who then quotes the usual fearmongering, obviously unreflected.

Maybe its different in your country, but Germany is a supplementation-phobic country. Its especially bad about Iodine, Vitamine-D and Vitamine C. Also, eating bio over here is almost a religious confession and spiritual way to enlightenment and heaven's gates opening.

Different to Germany, the Medical School of Harvard University in Boston almost two decades ago has redone their illiustraion of the food pyramide, since a research project they ran at that time, the illustration contains a small box of pills. The lead scientist of that project said in an interview that given the poor dietary habits (of U.S. citizens, he meant the timetables of the daily eating and snacking and the predetermined dietary recommendations by dietitians) and also the abysmal food quality (highly processed food, too much carbohydrates and poor fats, and crops and vegetables with high nutrient loss compared to earlier times), supplementation with at least one high-potency multivitamin pill and - and this is noteworthy since he said this almost 20 years ago! - a high-dose vitamin D pill must be regarded as a compulsory exercise for healthy living. And no, the man had no conflicts of interest, was not paid by the industry.

IMO there still are faults in that modern illustration from Harvard, but that at least they contain that pill box now, is remarkable. In Germany, the land of the green-doers and bio-eaters, this would be impossible to imagine, would be heresy. At the beginning of the pandemic, German government members and parliamentary members wanted that the EU forbids the sale of supplements in therapeutically effective doses, and when the EU said No (they had their hands full with a little minor deasease that was internaitonally spreading...), they wanted that at least Germany bans the sale completely for the German market. :o But homeopathy runs strong over here, health insurrers even pay for it.

When you visit Germany, dont forget to adjust your clock 50 years back.

[AVGWarhawk]

Single cases are no valid scientific argument.




Unless of course you're the single case. :doh:

[Arlo]

The vaccine is not cracked up to what is advertised. Coworker(vaccinated) died from COVID. Another coworker hospitalized with a positive diagnosis of Guillain-Barré. This diagnosis 2 weeks after a booster. Yes, new cases of Guillain-Barré has been associated to the vaccine. Vitamin D has been tagged with being helpful in getting over COVID. If anything, you'll have stronger bones! :)

I'm sorry you have had two coworkers that fell into the extremely rare categories you illustrate. That's a horrible coincidence.

Here's the breakdown:

Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 5 people per one million vaccinated in the United States. Anaphylaxis, a severe type of allergic reaction, can occur after any kind of vaccination. If it happens, healthcare providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. Learn more about COVID-19 vaccines and allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis.

Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 vaccination is rare. TTS is a rare but serious adverse event that causes blood clots in large blood vessels and low platelets (blood cells that help form clots). As of January 27, 2022, more than 18.1 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine have been given in the United States. CDC and FDA identified 57 confirmed reports of people who got the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine and later developed TTS.

CDC has also identified nine deaths that have been caused by or were directly attributed to TTS following J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination. Women ages 30-49 years, especially, should be aware of the increased risk of this rare adverse event. There are other COVID-19 vaccine options available for which this risk has not been seen.

To date, three confirmed cases of TTS following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Moderna) have been reported to VAERS after more than 517 million doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered in the United States. Based on available data, there is not an increased risk for TTS after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.

Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) in people who have received the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine is rare. GBS is a rare disorder where the body’s immune system damages nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. Most people fully recover from GBS, but some have permanent nerve damage. After more than 18.1 million J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine doses administered, there have been around 305 preliminary reports of GBS identified in VAERS as of January 27, 2022. These cases have largely been reported about 2 weeks after vaccination and mostly in men, many in those ages 50 years and older.

Based on the data, the rate of GBS within the first 21 days following J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination was found to be 21 times higher than after Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna (mRNA COVID-19 vaccines). After the first 42 days, the rate of GBS was 11 times higher following J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination. Analysis found no increased risk of GBS after Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna (mRNA COVID-19 vaccines). CDC and FDA will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of GBS occurring after COVID-19 vaccination and will share more information as it becomes available.

Myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. Myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart. Most patients with myocarditis or pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination responded well to medicine and rest and felt better quickly. As of January 27, 2022, VAERS has received 2,179 preliminary reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 years and younger who received COVID-19 vaccines.

Most cases have been reported after receiving Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, (mRNA COVID-19 vaccines) particularly in male adolescents and young adults. Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and FDA have verified 1,277 reports of myocarditis or Learn more about myocarditis and pericarditis, including clinical considerations, after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. More than 539 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through January 31, 2022. During this time, VAERS received 11,879 preliminary reports of death (0.0022%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA clinicians review reports of death to VAERS including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

That's a much smaller margin than the 1.2% of unvaccinated.

Still, I don't see anyone saying one is forced to choose between a daily regimen of vitamins or the vaccine (not speaking for Germany, that is). :shucks:

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm sorry you have had two coworkers that fell into the extremely rare categories you illustrate. That's a horrible coincidence.



Do you go to a funeral and advise the deceased family this is all ok because the family member death was from an coincidence? Sometimes it is best to simply say sorry. :yep:

[Arlo]

Do you go to a funeral and advise the deceased family this is all ok because the family member death was from an coincidence? Sometimes it is best to simply say sorry. :yep:

I'm sorry, I didn't know they were family or that this was a funeral. :shucks:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMf-Zq7xJcY

[Skybird]

Unless of course you're the single case. :doh:
I am triple-jabbed, that makes me hardly a single case.

And if you refer to studies on Vit-D, these in the past two years alone ranged from low hundreds to several hundred thousands of participants. Also, a german meta-study from 13 months ago (and completely unrelated to Covid-19) showed that the word-telling on Vit-D in Germany over the past decade has slowly but steadily raised the supply levels in the German population. Across all age and social groups. Today, much less people are deficitary than were ten years ago, thanks to the information work and publications by people here in Germany like Dr. med Reimund von Helden (who was the first doctor worldwide who described a detailed and comprehensive symptomatic Vitamine-D deficiency syndrome 15 years ago or so), Prof. Dr. Dr. Jörg Spitz (who now, at higher age, organises public information events, academic discussion conferences and generally tries to bring the information to wide public awarenss with a media-work-related academy), and several Vit-D related grassroot organisations and associations with the same goal. Today, much less people are deficitary over here than were ten years ago. You must not know these names and organisaitons, they are national/German , but you have the same in the US, and the grey eminence of Vit-D research, Prof. Michael Holick from Boston University, who staged the modern big bang for Vit-D research in the 70s. Since SARS 2003 we know there is something with Corona virusses and that they do not like Vit-D, and in the past 20 years our understanding and knowledge about this steroid hormone (thats what it really is, it is no vitamine...) has exploded by several factors, many researchers speak of nothing less than a paradigm shift. MERS 2008 gave another booster ignition to this learning process.

And now you know why early 2020, when Covid-19 was new, some people sprinted out of the starting block erarly and knew already then that Vitamine D was something to watch out for, that it could be of huge relevance. Because the research done on it and the knowledge gained on it is much older than just dating back to 2020. In principle its first fundaments are already almost half a century old. ;) Again, Michael Holick is the name you want to check out.


Needless to say, the pharmaceutical industry keeps silent about all this, and its allies in politics and media do not want the public to know it. After all, the freshly studied student of medicine, after havig finsihed university, knows littlebaout healing - but he is an expert in prescribing drugs with serious sideffects that fight symptoms (often at a cost), but do not heal the desease at the root of the symptomns and suffering. Frswhly-made doctors form unbiversity are salesmen. The better of them understand that some time later - and then try to unlearn, relearn, and learn new things. The bad doctors are those who simply stick to what they have learned at university with its industry-influenced curriculum, and do not want to go beyond that. These kind of lazy doctors do harm to people.

[MaDef]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the "supplement therapeutics vs vaccine" been discussed multiple times in this thread ever since the Vaccine became available? Unless there is NEW information in one vs the other it's time to move on to something more productive, like living your lives.

[Skybird]

Many different positions get endlessly repeated in this thread, some of them even being more political, than medically related to the topic.

:salute:

But okay, I hear ya. Blame it all on Arlo. :O:

P.S. I never was about supplements versus vaccines, it always was supplements and vaccines!

[Arlo]

But okay, I hear ya. Blame it all on Arlo. :O:

P.S. I never was about supplements versus vaccines, it always was supplements and vaccines!

I'll give you the BOTD that you were offering up some tongue in cheek humor but to clarify - the following were the points I offered:

1. I've not seen American main stream media attack anyone for using or suggesting the use of vitamins or any other proven health related supplement alongside vaccination. Use of them instead of vaccination is another thing.

2. Using or claiming as example an associate or colleague (or relative or neighbor, etc..) having had a bad experience (be it death or disability) with one of the vaccines is not the damning proof one may pretend it to be (and no, bringing that up, in turn, isn't the same as showing up at a funeral and being cruel and insensitive).

3. I think 1 and 2 covers it. :) :shucks:

[Gorpet]

I am triple-jabbed, that makes me hardly a single case.

And if you refer to studies on Vit-D, these in the past two years alone ranged from low hundreds to several hundred thousands of participants. Also, a german meta-study from 13 months ago (and completely unrelated to Covid-19) showed that the word-telling on Vit-D in Germany over the past decade has slowly but steadily raised the supply levels in the German population. Across all age and social groups. Today, much less people are deficitary than were ten years ago, thanks to the information work and publications by people here in Germany like Dr. med Reimund von Helden (who was the first doctor worldwide who described a detailed and comprehensive symptomatic Vitamine-D deficiency syndrome 15 years ago or so), Prof. Dr. Dr. Jörg Spitz (who now, at higher age, organises public information events, academic discussion conferences and generally tries to bring the information to wide public awarenss with a media-work-related academy), and several Vit-D related grassroot organisations and associations with the same goal. Today, much less people are deficitary over here than were ten years ago. You must not know these names and organisaitons, they are national/German , but you have the same in the US, and the grey eminence of Vit-D research, Prof. Michael Holick from Boston University, who staged the modern big bang for Vit-D research in the 70s. Since SARS 2003 we know there is something with Corona virusses and that they do not like Vit-D, and in the past 20 years our understanding and knowledge about this steroid hormone (thats what it really is, it is no vitamine...) has exploded by several factors, many researchers speak of nothing less than a paradigm shift. MERS 2008 gave another booster ignition to this learning process.

And now you know why early 2020, when Covid-19 was new, some people sprinted out of the starting block erarly and knew already then that Vitamine D was something to watch out for, that it could be of huge relevance. Because the research done on it and the knowledge gained on it is much older than just dating back to 2020. In principle its first fundaments are already almost half a century old. ;) Again, Michael Holick is the name you want to check out.


Needless to say, the pharmaceutical industry keeps silent about all this, and its allies in politics and media do not want the public to know it. After all, the freshly studied student of medicine, after havig finsihed university, knows littlebaout healing - but he is an expert in prescribing drugs with serious sideffects that fight symptoms (often at a cost), but do not heal the desease at the root of the symptomns and suffering. Frswhly-made doctors form unbiversity are salesmen. The better of them understand that some time later - and then try to unlearn, relearn, and learn new things. The bad doctors are those who simply stick to what they have learned at university with its industry-influenced curriculum, and do not want to go beyond that. These kind of lazy doctors do harm to people.

Skybird what happen to you? I have followed your posts for years and over those years you have changed the way i have looked at the world . What makes you so afraid ? Old age ? well you can't out run it ,maybe with enough money you can buy the best medical, but if it is heredity your fukchicken anyway.You seem to me that you have lost your mind to this virus .

[Arlo]

Well, at least he isn't afraid of needles, GorpGalt. :shucks:

[Gorpet]

Well, at least he isn't afraid of needles, GorpGalt. :shucks:

My Galt life is great.Will it survive ? Not if i stay in the United States.
In their future you will own nothing and be at peace.

[Arlo]

My Galt life is great.Will it survive ? Not if i stay in the United States.
In their future you will own nothing and be at peace.

Klaatu barada nikto. Goonie goo goo, Gus.

[Gorpet]

Klaatu barada nikto. Goonie goo goo, Gus.

LOL, I don't know if Putin has watched that movie.He probably has anywho , who is the good guy and who is the bad guy?

Putin who lands in the saucer or NATO who fires the first shot?

[Arlo]

LOL, I don't know if Putin has watched that movie.He probably has anywho , who is the good guy and who is the bad guy?

Putin who lands in the saucer or NATO who fires the first shot?

It's the blurring of good and bad that presents the true problem. Such as the assumption that NATO will fire the first shot .... or that Putin is an advanced alien, simply because he's the powerful invader. Those would be simplistic assumptions from a simplistic mind (or, if one chooses to believe, fantastic assumptions ... from a 'fantastic' mind). Reality is much more obvious and requires realistic supposition ... or observation, if the facts present themselves.

But that ... is a different topic, in a different thread. Best to do your blurring of that there. :shucks:

[Skybird]

Skybird what happen to you? I have followed your posts for years and over those years you have changed the way i have looked at the world . What makes you so afraid ? Old age ? well you can't out run it ,maybe with enough money you can buy the best medical, but if it is heredity your fukchicken anyway.You seem to me that you have lost your mind to this virus .
"Afraid"...? :06:

You may laugh at me, but when I leave the house, I lock the door to my flat. When in a car, I use the seat-belts. And I don't jump out of a window just because I am standing on the third floor.

Not fear. Reason.

Fear was a part regarding my old parents who for long time stayed to be unvaccinated, until last late Novembre - I feared I unknowingly might bring the plague into their home. If they would have died due to that, i would have never forgiven myself. Seen that way, again: it was reason. That my old father tremendously benefitted from massive additional health improvements by following my example, was an unintended bonus. His doctor is perplexed. To lesser degree, my Mum benefitted of it as well.

And another reason: Initially I got engaged with these topics via Vit-D, that is correct. But i soon found the whole topic of food-related and orthomolecular medicine to be extremely interesting for the sake of the very topics themselves. I am interested in these like I am interested in astronomy, or chess openings. Its fascinating stuff.

BTW, I am sick and tired, too, of this whole pandemic situation, like so many others are. I think way ahead of the German govenrment's delayed easing - or better: non-easing - of lockdowns and measurements. I think since weeks we must open up again, cannot afford to go on like this any longer, and I always thought that we will need to risk mass infection of the population - once a huge part of the population can go through that under the protective umbrella of being vaccinated. Its not a perfect solution, but its the best we can acchieve, I think. But many Germans are indeed paralysed like a deer in the searchhlight.

If we do not open up again now - WHEN THEN...???

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/cCdwbdz0/123169923-uk-card-with-vax-booster-07feb2022-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/2bX1qNmK)

[Skybird]

A new US study shows that there is a significantly raised risk for cardiovascular problems in the year after havign suffered a serious or mild case of Covid-19. The risks for strokes and heart attacks are for example raised by 50% and 60%. Such issues in the first 30 days after a cured infection were ignored, only months 2 to 12 were considered in the study. They compared 156,000 infected people to around 5 million non-infected people from during the pandemic and the data files from another 5 million people from before the Corona pandemic.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3

[mapuc]

Misinformation and conspiracy is being spread about Denmarks fully open society

Following is a translated article(Danish to English)

https://www-bt-dk.translate.goog/samfund/danmarks-genaabning-forbloeffede-verden-saa-begyndte-misinformationen?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Since there seems to be a problem with the twitter link in the translation I post it here

https://twitter.com/KasperKepp/status/1490305557798043651?s=20&t=MIFith4nt3pBNVsTM69ZCw

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Kg7TjmpLA

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Kg7TjmpLA

The Hunter Classic and Call of the Wild will soon introduce a new huntable species - virusses. :D

[Jimbuna]

Boris Johnson has said he plans to end all remaining Covid restrictions in England - including the legal rule to self-isolate - a month early.

Under the current rules, anyone who tests positive must self-isolate for at least five days.

The current restrictions are due to expire on 24 March.

But Mr Johnson told MPs he expected the last domestic rules would end early "provided the current encouraging trends in the data continue".

He said he intends to return after parliamentary recess - which is from 21 February - to outline the government's strategy for living with Covid.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60319947

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/zGZMVTzx/123186679-uk-card-with-vax-booster-08feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/xc5gZJbm)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9bgCG5WgTQ

[Skybird]

Boris Johnson has said he plans to end all remaining Covid restrictions in England - including the legal rule to self-isolate - a month early.

Under the current rules, anyone who tests positive must self-isolate for at least five days.

The current restrictions are due to expire on 24 March.

But Mr Johnson told MPs he expected the last domestic rules would end early "provided the current encouraging trends in the data continue".

He said he intends to return after parliamentary recess - which is from 21 February - to outline the government's strategy for living with Covid.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60319947


Photos of bottles of bubbly work wonders ! :D

[Jimbuna]

Photos of bottles of bubbly work wonders ! :D

His sole achievement is to make himself the laughing stock of the political world.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/7YqNVtpz/123201681-uk-card-with-vax-booster-09feb2022-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/Sjt8QdQQ)

[Jimbuna]

The Prince of Wales has tested positive for Covid-19 and is now self-isolating, Clarence House has said on Twitter.

Prince Charles's positive result was announced moments before he was due to arrive at an engagement in Winchester.

On Wednesday, he and his wife the Duchess of Cornwall met people at a reception in the British Museum.

Camilla tested negative for coronavirus on Thursday, Clarence House said. This is the second time Charles has contracted Covid.

The 73-year-old heir to the throne last caught the virus in March 2020 when he reported only mild symptoms.

Clarence House confirmed that Prince Charles was triple vaccinated, but would not give any detail on whether he was experiencing coronavirus symptoms this time.

It is also yet to confirm whether Charles has seen the Queen recently. But it said Camilla had received a negative result in a routine test earlier.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60334842

Stay well clear of your mom.

[August]

Stay well clear of your mom.


Why? I would be one of the less bloody royal successions! :D

[Skybird]

His sole achievement is to make himself the laughing stock of the political world.

With the huge amount of damage he has already done, I would have stopped laughing a long time ago.

That Corona tackled Brexit is not his fault, that was unforseeable. But for everything else beyond this unfortunate coincidence, he is to blame.

[Jimbuna]

Why? I would be one of the less bloody royal successions! :D

Personally at 73 years of age I think he's too old and William the Duke of Cambridge should be next in line.

With the huge amount of damage he has already done, I would have stopped laughing a long time ago.

That Corona tackled Brexit is not his fault, that was unforseeable. But for everything else beyond this unfortunate coincidence, he is to blame.

Too true.

[August]

Personally at 73 years of age I think he's too old and William the Duke of Cambridge should be next in line.


I agree but can Charles be skipped over?

[Jimbuna]

I agree but can Charles be skipped over?

I doubt it. it would take something like an Act of Parliament to change that protocol/law.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6RsXN_Wars

[August]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6RsXN_Wars




Dude better watch out. Bucking the official pravda like that will get him tossed right off you tube.

[Rockstar]

And here I thought mask mandates were based on science! Follow the science mandate Nazis proclaimed, science rules, Fauci IS science!

This article goes to show it was all political b.s.

Abrupt end to mask mandates reflects a shifting political landscape

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/abrupt-end-to-mask-mandates-reflects-a-shifting-political-landscape/ar-AATFDMr?ocid=uxbndlbing

[Gorpet]

"Afraid"...? :06:

You may laugh at me, but when I leave the house, I lock the door to my flat. When in a car, I use the seat-belts. And I don't jump out of a window just because I am standing on the third floor.

Not fear. Reason.

Fear was a part regarding my old parents who for long time stayed to be unvaccinated, until last late Novembre - I feared I unknowingly might bring the plague into their home. If they would have died due to that, i would have never forgiven myself. Seen that way, again: it was reason. That my old father tremendously benefitted from massive additional health improvements by following my example, was an unintended bonus. His doctor is perplexed. To lesser degree, my Mum benefitted of it as well.

And another reason: Initially I got engaged with these topics via Vit-D, that is correct. But i soon found the whole topic of food-related and orthomolecular medicine to be extremely interesting for the sake of the very topics themselves. I am interested in these like I am interested in astronomy, or chess openings. Its fascinating stuff.

BTW, I am sick and tired, too, of this whole pandemic situation, like so many others are. I think way ahead of the German govenrment's delayed easing - or better: non-easing - of lockdowns and measurements. I think since weeks we must open up again, cannot afford to go on like this any longer, and I always thought that we will need to risk mass infection of the population - once a huge part of the population can go through that under the protective umbrella of being vaccinated. Its not a perfect solution, but its the best we can acchieve, I think. But many Germans are indeed paralysed like a deer in the searchhlight.

If we do not open up again now - WHEN THEN...???

Thanks for the reply. Hell 3 of my neighbors and 2 of my family are now dead.So it's not bull****.I have survived by reading your post.Now i don't know if i'm just lucky.So thank's we will see about 2022.I was just being Gorpet.

[Jimbuna]

Hundreds of thousands of people are heading away as the half-term holidays start in many parts of the UK

Britons going on overseas holidays still need to follow local Covid rules.

But people travelling to the UK will no longer need to take any tests if fully vaccinated.

Travel association Abta describes the easing of Covid restrictions as a "new chapter"

Turkey, Egypt and Portugal among the most popular destinations for winter sun.

The Downing Street lockdown parties probe will not be affected by Met Police chief Cressida Dick's departure, a London Assembly member says.

The UK reported 66,638 Covid cases on Thursday.

[Skybird]

Thanks for the reply. Hell 3 of my neighbors and 2 of my family are now dead.So it's not bull****.I have survived by reading your post.Now i don't know if i'm just lucky.So thank's we will see about 2022.I was just being Gorpet.
I lost two of my three international correspondence chess partners in the first summer of the first Corona year (2020), and a third person that I happened to know via internet since long time. We played chess since almost 20 years. One was a Canadian doctor living and working in NY, he was "at the very front", so to speak, and thats why he lost his life. He was also the one who gave me early warnings already in late Novembre 2019, because he once worked for his govenrment at the WHO, and got under the hand some informal words from his former colleagues.

Its not the same like family members dying, but I knew these men since almost 20 years, and we had good discussions, many furious chess matches that lasted a year or so per match (old fashioned, one move per email, we liked it the old way), and formed as personal relations as you can via internet. Also, my father took the second jab very heavy and got kncoked out by it, had to go to hospital with it, for one day and a bit I was very unsure about his future fate and feared he would die.

So, I think I can understand, at least a bit, how it must have been for you with your family losses.

Keep your head up. :salute:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb1Xm1uaedU

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/fLrQJ7hq/123228297-uk-card-with-vax-booster-11feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/2bhKtZyn)

[Catfish]

@Gorpet i missed you postings, sorry to hear of you family losses. I hope all is well with you 'as far as possible'. Skybird said it all. Keep your head up.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJnEr7GTkQ4

[mapuc]

Well Since I didn't exactly had a sore throat, had a little last Sunday and little on Monday last week, since then no more.

Since I didn't have pain in my chest but mostly back of my chest between my shoulder blade

Since I Had/have a cough but it's not persistent

Running nose but
No Sneezing

Fatigue is something I'm suffering from since year back.

With this in mind I said to myself I got and old fashion cold....Well then this Saturday I started to lose my smell. Today I can't smell a thing-My taste is still there.

So I made a search and discovered that you can also lose your smell during a cold.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_CvfiJ3QRQ

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/fRR5cdZ7/123258224-uk-card-with-vax-booster-14feb2022-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/LnGzRnJh)

[Jimbuna]

Covid deaths in UK continue to fall

Death registrations involving Covid in the UK fell slightly in the week ending 4 February, according to the latest Office for National Statistics figures.

There were 13,472 deaths registered in total in the UK during that week - 9% below the five-year average.

A total of 1,390 of these involved Covid - a fall of 155 compared with the previous week.

If a death certificate mentions Covid, it will not always be the main cause of death but may be a contributory factor.

Currently, fewer than two in every three Covid-related deaths are estimated to be caused by the infection.

A doctor can certify the involvement of Covid based on symptoms and clinical findings - a positive test result is not always required.

A total of 183,502 deaths have occurred in the UK where Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60388805

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myh9GN7kaUw

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56gG_OD9KjM

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/jqcsqYDC/123270945-uk-card-with-vax-booster-15feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/t710DftH)

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zzo4SJopcY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ4rZaMMN7I


In the first decade of last century and up to the middle of it, patients with health problems and diseases of many kinds often were send to climatic spas (Luftkurorte), usually at higher altitude in the mountains. And it was well-illustrated that this indeed often helped, had a lasting curing or an easing effect in symptoms. But the term climatic spa/Luftkurort probably was misleading, and these places and institutions should have been called "light spas"/Lichtkurorte) instead. Its not the sight of the blue sky and green alms and snow-covered mountains that helps, nor is it the cold refreshing temperature or the clean air, but its the sunlight and the UV radiation that does the magic.

For that reason our recommendations to use as much sunblocker as possible, maybe do more harm than good, too. Some pragmatic reason is on order and must be appllied here, a dogmatic: reduc eall UV as muchg as spissible" - that probably is not what it should b about. That it does not get too muzch: that is the trick. Needing UV we definetly do! If you bake yourself in the sun too long, your skin's health is at risk in summer sunlight, but if you use sunblocker for every minute you leave the house, your skin does not get any UV - which you need. Just not too much of it, please.

It can be easier managed and controlled with clothes, than with cream. I have become more careful with using suncream, and this although I have very white, pale skin. I use it, but only during sufficiently long exposition times, namely my day-long bike tours, and then only on the hands, neck, face. I wear a hat, and shirts with long arms from the expedition store, they are light, you do not warm up additionally, but they have ligh protection factors of 50 (you do not get that much from ordinary cotton T-shirts and such common textiles). Since 4 years or so, since I used sunblockers of high factors, I started to suffer from additional photodermatosis, and very serverly so. It eased again after I reduced sunblockers. It also eased a bit when I started to generally supplement.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcsHKUZhB4E

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/Jzh2yWvh/FLrge-Q0-VEAAk-Ow-K.png (https://postimg.cc/xcWR7B0r)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-E7HNWZW-k

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/0yP68skX/123296587-uk-card-with-vax-booster-17feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/TpN29BWn)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfcSGoTUu7Y

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/X7jLKycN/123305544-uk-card-with-vax-booster-18feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/XXP94qzt)

[Skybird]

The German health minister said this today:

"And if I am to be honest, it is that I expect that we will be dealing with the pandemic for a very long time. You can really think in terms of ten years."

:huh:

:stare:

:arrgh!:

Is that the wet dream of a law-and-order politician? Well, neither the economy nor the social community will hold together that long. Already now they are shaken and changed - not for the better. If I sholod give an estimation, then I would say that in my town, every fifth to every fourth shop and restaurant is gone, changed owner and business. And oth bog strorehouses we have here are threatened with closing (the big storehouses were in bad shape already before Corona, but Corona has drastically accelerated the death of those that are still left).

And it has just begun.

Lauterbach continued with pointing at the basic immunity that is spreading. Still, if despite that the pandemic nevertheless causes these ammounts of fallouts, we better find better weapons to tackle it. For in this way we will not get through it in one piece.


And just a thought of mine. What if within the coming ten years another, totally different and way more dangerous pandemic breaks out? Unrealistic or unlikely that is not. From SARS 1 to MERS it were 5 years only.

[Jimbuna]

The Queen has tested positive for Covid, Buckingham Palace has said.

The monarch is experiencing "mild cold-like symptoms" but expects to continue "light duties" at Windsor over the coming week, the palace said.

"She will continue to receive medical attention and will follow all the appropriate guidelines," it added in a statement.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60453566

Wishing you a speedy recovery ma'am :salute:

[Jimbuna]

An end to all remaining Covid legal restrictions in England will be announced later by Boris Johnson.

The PM was due to agree it in talks with ministers this morning - but there have been delays to that cabinet meeting.

He is due to address MPs this afternoon and hold a press conference later.

It's expected that people will no longer be required to self-isolate if they test positive for Covid.

Labour have questioned any moves to limit free testing.

The Queen, 95, has Covid but is expected to carry out some light duties this week.

Australia meanwhile reopens its international border for the first time in nearly two years.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9jM_8X-TC8

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVXA9posslo

[Jimbuna]

An additional booster dose should be offered to all adults over-75 and the most vulnerable over-12s this spring, the UK's vaccines advisory body says.

Many of the oldest received their latest shot back in the autumn and this extra dose will help top up protection against severe Covid-19.

An autumn booster programme, aimed at a wider group of people, is also planned.

The UK nations are expected to accept the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) advice.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/DZrSFFjB/123339871-uk-card-with-vax-booster-21feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/tZgqN0Hx)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOUHSg81HMU

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/R0qWNh40/123352767-uk-card-with-vax-booster-22feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/kV3JHnVr)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PNPV3EF9oE&t=658s

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSvc5gFif8E

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMsAJzwKwVY

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/PrLPg8cy/123383365-uk-card-with-vax-booster-23feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/Lnp9fhmg)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlBLZaw2DkY

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/d0NdK3gv/123407165-uk-card-with-vax-booster-24feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/4Ktn6fJF)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3YKFdP0wt0

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1pWGOigwe8

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDzbdNV8L20

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/bvmjqDx6/123423642-uk-card-with-vax-booster-25feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/8FfYHCnW)

[mapuc]

Here the expert says you can very well get infected more than one time with this Omicron B.1. or B.2.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llhayHfH63Q

[Jeff-Groves]

Russel Brand nodding his head and I'm lost.
:doh:

[Jimbuna]

Considers himself to be a comedian.

[Jeff-Groves]

Considers himself to be a comedian.

As a Comedian he's OK. As a Great commentator on current events and such?
He should just over dose and be found in a cheap motel room somewhere in Tibet with his under pants around his ankles and a dead hooker in his room!

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0sA3CAPcl8

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/zfMZ1TNq/123457206-optimised-uk-card-with-vax-booster-28feb-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/d78S2kDf)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITr7oOsrXRI

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/vZ1SVzN9/123470558-uk-card-with-vax-booster-01mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/CRgNyjYL)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58IhKxBQQpw

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/MKQDV2fY/123485415-uk-card-with-vax-booster-02mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/jLRPY1XW)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unaG99XbsKk

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/287LMhyg/123504554-uk-card-with-vax-booster-03mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/BXtv18xC)

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/fb1f5z4R/123518327-birmingham-erdington-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/Ny7Xjwf3)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbOoGgtnXUg

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaUK31EjRRo

[Jimbuna]

UK experts say they have found another life-saving drug that can help people ill with Covid.

The anti-inflammatory baricitinib is normally used to treat rheumatoid arthritis.

Trials suggest it can cut death risk by about a fifth in patients needing hospital care for severe Covid.

It could be used with other Covid treatments, such as the cheap steroid dexamethasone, to save even more lives, researchers say.

That might halve deaths.

The NHS may soon recommend baricitinib based on these new results. A 10-day course of the pills costs around £250, although the NHS may be able to negotiate a discount.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60601750

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfyOihhAD4A

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/jS1D5tGt/123583876-uk-card-with-vax-booster-07mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/DSqvpkvM)

[Skybird]

Patients with even a mild case of Covid-19 may experience accelerated aging of the brain and other changes to it, according to a new study.


https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/07/health/covid-brain-changes-study-wellness/index.html


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5



We identified significant longitudinal effects when comparing the two groups, including: (i) greater reduction in grey matter thickness and tissue-contrast in the orbitofrontal cortex and parahippocampal gyrus, (ii) greater changes in markers of tissue damage in regions functionally-connected to the primary olfactory cortex, and (iii) greater reduction in global brain size. The infected participants also showed on average larger cognitive decline between the two timepoints. Importantly, these imaging and cognitive longitudinal effects were still seen after excluding the 15 cases who had been hospitalised. These mainly limbic brain imaging results may be the in vivo hallmarks of a degenerative spread of the disease via olfactory pathways, of neuroinflammatory events, or of the loss of sensory input due to anosmia.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJZMKJpMOYI

[mapuc]

Any doctors here in our Forum or with huge knowledge about our DNA-mRNA and other things in our body ?

Preclinical studies of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, showed reversible hepatic effects in animals that received the BNT162b2 injection. Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human cells.

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/PxPFLKgv/123610260-uk-card-with-vax-booster-08mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/S2bG3LNm)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YOD9drZasM

[mapuc]

^ Yea have read a lot about those Pfizer document

:o I didn't knew I had so many expert among my friends on FB and twitter.

I don't read them-Reason I'm not an expert.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/5t1D7wZ6/123617115-uk-card-with-vax-booster-09mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/9D8xzqXh)

[Rockstar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YOD9drZasM

This ^ this right here ^. I hope the hell the gulliable stupid mandate Nazis read it and then choke on it and die a slow painful death. Mandate Nazis clucking about like frightened little hens demanding others conform to their stupidity.

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YOD9drZasM
Had not heard of these documents, but since early this year somehow I started to feel alarmed, sort of, because the producers of these vaccines have had enough time to hand over the demanded data that were allowed to be delayed due to the urgent situation early on. But over one and half year later certain data and studies that were obligatory and were demanded to give at a later point, still had not been handed over. This is supicious, looks as if somebody has to hide something, or found out negative things he does not want the authorities to know, obviously. Any analysis of data can only be as good as the data used, and if that data is flawed, uncomplete, erratic, then the quality of the analysis and conclusions drawn from it are accordingly.



Trust is shaken.

[Skybird]

Possibly up to 18 million deaths.


https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60690251

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/Gh7g8R42/123631122-uk-card-with-vax-booster-10mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/svW4qt9d)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWPXRRVsAGk

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/NFRPVCYH/123645844-uk-card-with-vax-booster-11mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/30JB0Bk8)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EASM6EzCVeg

[Skybird]

It becomes more and more obvious that there is plenty of data still hidden and kept away from both the public and the authorities who should be concerned, and that this hiding is politically supported to avoid getting politically held liable for what is going on here. While I expected also some backlash and backdrop to be real, I obviously always based on the assumption - I considered it to be a reasonable assumption, and maybe that still is a true assumption nevertheless: we cannot say until we do not know ALL the details they now still hide - that the gains still outweigh and justify the losses. And I still want to belie it. Its just that first red lights have gone on on my panel.

It is Spring 2022, and still vital data and information is held back by the vaccine producers, and those they released sometimes come with edited or blackened numbers of important variables.

Rockstar may have more truth in his criticism than appeared reasonable at first. Polemic, and some dubious people mentioned in his links, did not really help it.

On the other hand there are calculations on global death rates caused directly by covid 19 that range three times and higher than the officially released numbers. And there are the often underestimated giant problems of patients with Long Covid that fall out of the employment scheme for months and months, putting enormous stress on the economy, and finances

One thing is clear. We - the modern civilization - were in no way fit and equipped to deal with a pandemic like this adequately. Too many things went and still go wrong - and most nations still even struggle with just correctly counting cases and have reasonable diagnostic criteria for when somebody died from and due to Covid, and when his death had other causes that coincide with getting the infeciton, age especially of relevance. That is ridiculous! But maybe poltically wanted...?


Imagien what a pandemic woudl do to our planetary society that is of real horriofying letality. Something with a lethality like Ebola, for example.


Where I still feel strongly confirmed is regarding my general advise I spouted out from beginning on: keep your body defence in good shape, eat healthy, and give your immune system's many components the material and ammo that all these many subsystems need to set up a good fight withoutcausing too much collateral damage. I find it criminal that governments until today play down, ignore, stay silent on the importance of certain nutrition supplementations and their positive VERY OBVIOUS effects, instead even having ambitions and projects that try to discredit them by giving therapeutically insufficient doses - and then sensationally claiming that these things do not work. Metanalysis then concluding that these things do not work becuaue they collect studies that base on bad study design or mentioned therapeutically irrelevant doses given, do not make it any better, of course. An analysis is only as good in quality as is the quality of the data going into it.

Its criminal.

Now maybe not everbyody in the monitoring state services and offices that deal with pharmaceutical licensing and such, are criminal. Nerverthelss these many failings regading the vaccines and their data support get allowed still, and slip through. So if not criminal, then obviously much incompetence and lacking expertise is ruling there. These structures and state services and systems apparently are not up to the task. I attacked the Deutsche Gesellschaft für Ernährung DGE many time sbefore, but I also incldued the Robewrt Koch Institute RKI and the Paul Ehrlich Institut as wlel. All thdse "institutes" I would shut down immedately. At best they are useless. More realstic is to see the consequences they cause with their pulbicaitosn and "information" as criminal.

And how could state ontiopring be any less incomoetent? When a producer wants a license for a new drug, all the testing and data gathering is left - to him. He can hand over files and data as he has put them together, and of course the temptation is always there to "edit" them so to get the licensing as desired. Our pharmaceutical licensing system is the fortification of the classical conflict of interest - it does not get any more classical!

So what do we expect...?

[August]

I see the mandate nazis are suddenly discovering that what they have been calling misinformation isn't so wrong after all. My how the worm has turned.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFu8UjySH28

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz4adJXLHgA

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksP2EuUQXeo

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBvTRQlhE5s

[mapuc]

The next variant Deltacron is starting to spread.

As a majority of the world begins to look past the pandemic, hoping that at some point this year they can safely start living alongside Covid without much worry day-to-day, the World Health Organization (WHO) warns that the 'Deltacron' variant - a stain of the virus that includes traits from both Delta and Omicron, is starting to spread across Europe

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10598687/WHO-sounds-alarm-DELTACRON-variant-spreading-Europe-major-concern.html

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/Kc64J1S1/123733926-uk-card-with-vax-booster-16mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/JtQ1h4h8)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkjBi7dOTAg

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ToJMLkeDc

[Jimbuna]

Covid cases have continued to rise in the UK, with an estimated one in every 20 people infected, figures from the Office for National Statistic suggest.

All age groups are affected, including the 75s and over, who are due a spring booster jab to top up protection.

Hospital cases are also rising, but vaccines are still helping to stop many severe cases, say experts.

An easily spread sub-variant of Omicron, called BA.2, is now causing most cases.

Recent easing of restrictions and waning immunity from the vaccines could be factors behind the rise too.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4DH4ws03PY

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYig50EHX_E

[Jimbuna]

People aged 75 and over, residents in care homes and those with weakened immune systems can now book an extra booster jab against Covid in England.

It comes as official figures show infection rates are rising in all age groups - including the over-70s.

The rollout follows recommendations from the UK's vaccine advisers who say additional jabs will help boost protection for the most vulnerable.

Spring boosters are already being rolled out in Wales and Scotland.

A wider booster programme - involving more people - is expected this autumn.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60795121

[AVGWarhawk]

People aged 75 and over, residents in care homes and those with weakened immune systems can now book an extra booster jab against Covid in England.

It comes as official figures show infection rates are rising in all age groups - including the over-70s.

The rollout follows recommendations from the UK's vaccine advisers who say additional jabs will help boost protection for the most vulnerable.

Spring boosters are already being rolled out in Wales and Scotland.

A wider booster programme - involving more people - is expected this autumn.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60795121

Such a different world we live in. In my part of this mud ball we call earth there is barely a mention of vaccine, booster shots or masks. By and large, everything is as if nothing happened the past 2 years.

[ET2SN]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/1049699/story_image/TMW2022-03-23color.png?1647625216


:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Such a different world we live in. In my part of this mud ball we call earth there is barely a mention of vaccine, booster shots or masks. By and large, everything is as if nothing happened the past 2 years.

Certainly not the case over here unfortunately.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/85gJt7gT/123816796-uk-card-with-vax-booster-21mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/SXVxKNKP)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqTGD9LHe9g

[Gorpet]

Such a different world we live in. In my part of this mud ball we call earth there is barely a mention of vaccine, booster shots or masks. By and large, everything is as if nothing happened the past 2 years.

I'm scratching my head about that myself. Then again the United States has got its's nose into another war. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

UK marks second anniversary of first national lockdown https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60847932

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8NdUWMeHME

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/26J361yh/123842012-uk-card-with-vax-booster-23mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/wyX94Thj)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtl5mAy8KkI

[Jimbuna]

Covid cases have climbed by a million in a week in the UK, data from the Office for National Statistics reveals.

Swab tests suggest about one in every 16 people is infected, as the contagious Omicron variant BA.2 continues to spread.

That's just under 4.3 million people, up from 3.3 million the week before.

The figures for the week ending 19 March, are thought to give the most accurate reflection of what's happening with the virus in the community.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60872687

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/m2tnkFvX/123894809-uk-card-with-vax-booster-25mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/F7Xpn1s3)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZlZIXHT0yA&t=1s

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZlZIXHT0yA&t=1s
Evidence based medicine corrupted by corporate interests? Where do I sign? Just recent5ly they once again tried to convince everybody that ther eis ni evidence for any use of Vitamine-D supplementation.


Nor the supplemenation of any other vitamine and mineral and essential trace element.



Eat plenty and regularly severla times a day, buy plenty of food and snacks, get ill, and buy plenty of drugs - that is what it translates into. Be productive, help to generate company incomes by eating often, eating bad stuff, and swallow expensive chemical agents with meters-long lists of side effects and risk factors! :yeah: A good citizen is a sick and depending citizen!

[mapuc]

^ Your comment reminded me of an issue in one of our News program several month ago.

In the Studio was a Doctor who said It's important to take vitamine and minerals.

Then the journalist asked him a question and he said

No vitamins and minerals does not substitut medicin, what it does it boost your body defence so it fight Covid-19 better and other sickness

(Could have remembered some of it wrong)

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/253NPYDy/123921602-opt-uk-card-with-vax-booster-28mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/5HcrCZjW)

[Jimbuna]

There have been nearly 21 million confirmed cases of coronavirus in the UK and more than 164,000 people have died, government figures show.

However, these figures include only people who have died within 28 days of testing positive for coronavirus.

So far, 92% of people aged 12 and over in the UK have had their first vaccine dose, 86% have had their second and 67% have had a booster.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/sfhqQYTc/123954713-uk-card-with-vax-booster-30mar-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/rzqQ7rX0)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFWICK4ePg0

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilFUz6BVoS8

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBL7jDloIcw

[Jimbuna]

Covid: Last day of free tests in England fuels concern

People need to remain vigilant about Covid, experts are warning, as free universal testing for the virus ends in England on Thursday.

The government's chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance says a drop in precautionary behaviour could drive up infection rates, which are already high.

Latest estimates suggest one in every 16 people has Covid in the UK.

From 1 April, most people will have to pay for a lateral flow test in England.

High street pharmacies are charging about £2 per test.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60938624

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FQvnO-r5hc

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/Kvh5gctw/123980303-uk-card-with-vax-booster-01apr-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/BtNFr0YB)

[Jimbuna]

Covid: Record 4.9 million people have the virus in UK

About one in every 13 people in the UK has coronavirus, according to latest estimates from the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

That is some 4.9 million people, up from 4.3 million people the week before.

ONS officials say that is the highest number seen since its survey began at the end of April 2020.

The surge in infections is being driven partly by the contagious Omicron BA.2 sub-variant and people mixing more.

The figures for the week ending 26 March are thought to give the most accurate reflection of what's happening with the virus in the community.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60953501

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl-lEkhJ1xI

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD-4lNu_k3o

[Jimbuna]

Nine new symptoms added to official list

shortness of breath
feeling tired or exhausted
aching body
headache
sore throat
blocked or runny nose
loss of appetite
diarrhoea
feeling sick or being sick
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60982070

[Jimbuna]

The government's former head of ethics has apologised after receiving a fine from the police for attending a party in the Cabinet Office during lockdown.

Helen MacNamara was reported to have gone to a leaving do for a civil servant on 18 June 2020.

It is one of 12 events being investigated by the police.

In a statement, she said she had "accepted and paid the fixed penalty notice", adding: "I am sorry for the error of judgement I have shown."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60983517

[August]

Nine new symptoms added to official list

shortness of breath
feeling tired or exhausted
aching body
headache
sore throat
blocked or runny nose
loss of appetite
diarrhoea
feeling sick or being sick
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60982070


In other words cold and flu symptoms.

[Jimbuna]

In other words cold and flu symptoms.

My thoughts exactly....almost symptoms of most ailments :)

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/jdTH5VNC/124007046-uk-card-with-infections-04apr-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/4n87LSWT)

[Rockstar]

Omg I’m reading China is reaching record COVID highs! Oh no! Let’s go mandate nazis sound the alarm everyone MUST get vaccinated NOW! Close small businesses immediately! Deny everyone health care until they get vaccinated! We need masks now! The Phizer CEO said so! The Headlines say! :har: gullible morons.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Te-XAMn1E

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VZThzyI408

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Te-XAMn1E
Shall I - or shall I not...? :D


:haha:


:O:

[Skybird]

Well, reminding of this only: w eknow a bit more presiocely how Vit-D is made in what quantity under what conditions.

1. You need sun shinign with an UV index abiove 3.x, means: index 4 onward.

2. You need to be standing, almost naked.

3. No matter your skin colour and teint, you skin takes so and so long to show first signs of sunburn.

4. If you halve this time and meet the above conditions, you can assume that your body has made its daily limit fo aorund 20.000 IU of Vit-D. Note that this forumla reflects both pale white skin and dark or black skin. The dark-skinned human obviously take much longer for this effect to be achieved.

5. The body contnues to make more vitamine D beyiond this level, but at a drmataiuclaly redcued rate, the reduciton is by many factors, and for additional vitamine D made this way, stored vit-D int he body gets destroyed.

6. I dare to condlude by this (5) that zhre body is perfectly prepared to delsa with up to 20.000 IU of Vit-D per 24 hours period, may it be coming from sun, from food, or supplements.

7. I also conclude from this that it probably makes no sense, for the ordinary healthy individual without health preconditions, to supplement pils with more than 20.000 IE per day. You probably only produce expensive urine that way, withouth gaining further health benefits.

8. Also take Magnesium and Vit K2 MK7. Magnesium acitvates the stored Vitmaine into the form the body actually can make use of,. without Magnesium all the stored Vitamine is useless to you, and K2 helps to bring any possible calcium from the blood into the bones.

9. The toxic one-time dose (still not dpoign lastign damage!) is described to be not below 100.000 IWE, likely even much higher.

10. The toxic daily dose for long termed regular daily supplementation is most prpobbaly not below 40.000, likly even higher.

11. Conventional medics and doctors warn time and again of hypercalcemia and kidney damage. That is nonsense, founded on endlessly reolated and since many years rebuffed myths and bad studies, even corrupt doctors' papers.

The grey eminence of Vitamine-D research is Prof. Michael F. Hollick, who researches it since the early 70s. If you think you know better than what I said here, go and convince him - but first make sure you have your homework done properly. ;) There are several books and severla dozen study papers by him, all on Vitamine D.

Vitamine D likely does not prevent infection with Covid 19, but it modulates the immune system, to use less of inflammatory cytokines and to use more of anti-inflammatory or less inflammatory cytokines. This is the value of Vitamine D regarding Corona infections in general. I never said, nowhere, never, that it heals the desease, or prevents an infection. Do not quote me wrong on this.




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Vitamine D helps the cell to switch the single genes/in formaiton piecelets on the helix of the string of genetic information. Think of this totality of information as a cooking book with recipes, some are more uselful for the individuall cell's duties in the organ and organism than others, some recipes do never get used at all. What would a cook do and what does the cell? Both put in bookmarks, to find more easily and faster the interesting recipes they need most , so that they can faster switch between different pages of relevance. This is what epigentics is about. Vitamine D helps and optimises this process, this is what is meant when it is said "Vitamine D switches genes". The higher your Vitamine D level in the blood (calcidiol in serum), the more genes the cell can switch and mark, and the relation is not linear but is more an exponential one, apparently. Or to stay in the picture: the cell is the more competent cook who can do a bigger range of different dishes and recipes. You can tremendously gain benefits if not sticking to the often recommended "optimal" levels of 40-60 ngr/ml, these just are a safe ground above the minimus that are dengarously low, but you can safely add another 15, 20, 25 ngr/ml in oyiur calcidiol level in serum. With the higher additional values, you may increase the numbers of genes your cells can switch not by fracitons but BY FACTORS...!

If your doctor says you have 30 or 40 ngr/ml and that is good enough and you do not need more and it would not make sense to have more, I urge you to find yourself another doctor immediately, for the one you currently have is clueless on the matter. He simpy, is not up to date with the scientific status on the matter. There is nothing wrong in having 70, 80 ngr/ml. You probably stop gaining additional health benefits at around 90-100 ngr/ml, so it makes no sense, most likely at least, to aim at levels at that or beyond. But if you go a bit above those often mentioned 40-60ngr/ml, dont worry, thats perfectly fine and good for you.

Its about so much more than just Covid-19. ;)



Do not trust national food administraitons and advisory boards. Usually they only talk BULL and are supportive for the interests of the food and pharma idnsiutzry. bull. All of them stil sperad some food domgata and eating paradigms that simply are wrong and make you sick, obese and sugar-ill over the years. There is a reaosn why autoimmune deseases, obesity, diabetes and cancer rates are expldioujng in the Wets even amonhst peope, who follow these reommendations.



Maybe they do not get sick despite these advices, but because of them - ever thought about that? ;)

[mapuc]

I think it's important to say that eating D-vitamin and other vitamin and minerals isn't a cure against Covid-19. What it does it boost your immune system so it fight Covid-19 better.

Markus

[August]

I think it's important to say that eating D-vitamin and other vitamin and minerals isn't a cure against Covid-19. What it does it boost your immune system so it fight Covid-19 better.

Markus


Which is the only thing the vaccines still are purported to do.

[Skybird]

I think it's important to say that eating D-vitamin and other vitamin and minerals isn't a cure against Covid-19. What it does it boost your immune system so it fight Covid-19 better.

Markus
The tricky part with this virus is that it can turn the immune function against the body, and turn immune cells into cells working for the virus, multiplying it. The so-called modulation of the immune system indeed means not so much "boosting" the combat strength of the immune system, but directing it to cause less "collateral damage". Not just with Covid-19, btw. (If it were the military, it would be not about delivering weapons, but giving tactics training.)

Thats why sometimes even strong, healthy, young people with assumed strong stamina and immunology get overwhelmed by Covid-19.

A parallel maybe is cancer. If you get cancer and think you must just boost the power of your immune system by giving it the nutrients it needs, you can easily err terribly that way, because if you take many vitamines and minerals then, quite some of them do not just boost immune cells and benefit healthy cells - but als cancer cells. Its like fertilising your garden green. Thats all nice as long as there is no weed, pest plant. Once there is, you better stop fertilising because you do not just fertilize the grass but the weed as well. The healthy grass can live without fertilizer for some time, because you have nourished it well and it "build reserves". You can care for the weed in the meantime. Same with cancer, if I would get a cancer diagnosis, for an exmaple, I would stop all supplementation, and then check with my books and info - and the doc - one by one for them how they may maybe even help cancer to foster. I know that some of them woudl be needed to not be supplemented anymore as long as there are cancer cells around, like you also should avoid any forms of sugar when you have cancer, because sugar is a prime fertilizer for cancer cells, and I mean sugars in the wider meaning of the term, not just sweet refined white sugar.

Its a bit more complex than "vitamine pills lead to strong immune system - leads to infection defeated - leads to health". Sometimes supplementations can be absolutely contraindicated. You gotta know a thing or two about what you are doing. ;) The exceptions from the rules are what people easily trip over.



He who reads has an advantage. :D

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88_CUmG6n3M

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/hPqH1NSW/124068488-uk-card-with-infections-06apr-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/fkB2w2tB)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omluuvCTRf4

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/bJC5w8Yt/124096367-uk-card-with-infections-08apr-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/BLFpmrKS)

[em2nought]

Got my first booster, unfortunately I hadn't heard that there might be some benefit to mixing up which supplier your booster comes from. I used all Moderna so far for all shots. If I'd known, I'd have got the Pfizer booster instead.

https://covid19.nih.gov/news-and-stories/mixing-matching-covid-19-vaccine-booster-doses#:~:text=Booster%20shots%20are%20a%20safe,fir st%20received%20are%20not%20available.

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88_CUmG6n3M
I said it often enough, vitamine d is unlikely to save you from infection, but it modulates your immune system so that it fights the infection effectively WITHOUT causing a hellfire of inflammatory cytokines going on rampage.
Since two years I say this.
Why do i do this? Because the researching insiders noticed there is something about Vit-D and Corona viruses in and since since the first SARS pandemic already - and that was 2003...! And the plot thickened again after MERS pandemic 2008.



But what would I expect. We still get told we should eat less, not more salt, we still sell and even widen the consuming of HFCS, we still count calories and think we get thin again when having a calory deficit, and we still get told that Iodine is toxic, fat makes you fat, soy is healthy and unsaturated fats in general are healthy, too, so we should have all that plant seed oil. A fine mix of half-truths, uncomplete truths, missing contexts and co-arguments, and lies. Mostly lies. Terrible.


How did we get there? Plenty of industry lobbyism, ideology-drunk demagogues wanting others to do like one tells them, corrupted academics, and subject-idiots suffering from narrow tunnel vision, not seeing anything left or right of their ultra-narrow focus.

[Rhodes]

Guess who got the bug?


Me! :o

Still trying to get when and how I got it :06:. Tested positive on a auto-test, a antigen rapidtest, Saturday morning. Since Friday I was felling funny, sore throat and a few nasal symptoms, but thought that was from my sinusitis and catching cold the night before and no fever during all day.

Next morning, was the same and...hmmm let's see if. Bingo!

Only had fever saturday, 38º C. max. Now it's like a cold, with a few dry coughs.

Done the PCR test today, since it is required and of course it come back positive.

[mapuc]

< Hang in there my friend

Markus

[Rhodes]

< Hang in there my friend

Markus


Always! :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Guess who got the bug?


Me! :o

Still trying to get when and how I got it :06:. Tested positive on a auto-test, a antigen rapidtest, Saturday morning. Since Friday I was felling funny, sore throat and a few nasal symptoms, but thought that was from my sinusitis and catching cold the night before and no fever during all day.

Next morning, was the same and...hmmm let's see if. Bingo!

Only had fever saturday, 38º C. max. Now it's like a cold, with a few dry coughs.

Done the PCR test today, since it is required and of course it come back positive.

Speedy recovery matey :salute:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifvlkY47KtY

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oji34lcJ1Yg