Wuhan virus 2020

[em2nought]

Everyone knows that's just a lie started by Trump. Biden agrees with the WHO it all started when some people got their freak on with bats in a nearby cave.


Mickey is probably getting blackmailed by China. :D
https://cheesecake.articleassets.meaww.com/487648/uploads/f9394ae0-0384-11eb-a5c7-035619571d77_800_420.jpeg

[mapuc]

Again a news story has given antivaxxer blood on their teeth.

Some days ago in a Swedish article it was written that a group of elderly in a retirement home and some nurses was tested positive. One of them had been moved to the local hospital.

Of course some see this as a sign that these vaccine doesn't work.

The vaccine is working-remember it has 90-95 % protection...not from getting infected but from getting very sick but even here there's a little chance a person gets very sick despite their two vaccine.

It is interesting though that a group of elderly got infected at the same retirement home.

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

I'll be getting my COVID vaccine on the 26th. I am probably going to be the first kid in my grade to get it, and there won't be many who'll get it.
This is the thread to discuss the virus and vaccine, the other thread (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=247850) is to post if you got the vaccine. Simple instructions in post #1, thank you.




Remember, every jab we get means one less Refusnik that Neal will have to report to the government when the time comes.

Gee, did I get promoted? :haha:

[Rockstar]

Vaccines are not a cure all they basically do is simulate an infection. Which causes your body to respond to it as it were the real virus.


Just a guess but Im thinking maybe some people particularly the elderly may have such a weak immune response to the vaccine that its insufficient to combat the actual virus.


No vaccine is perfect.

[mapuc]

Vaccines are not a cure all they basically do is simulate an infection. Which causes your body to respond to it as it were the real virus.


Just a guess but Im thinking maybe some people particularly the elderly may have such a weak immune response to the vaccine that its insufficient to combat the actual virus.


No vaccine is perfect.

I guess a person who is getting their first and second vaccine does not get tested because this vaccine is as you said "all they basically do is simulate an infection" that's why I'm guessing they are first tested 14 to 28 days after they got the second shot.

I could be wrong.

Markus

[Skybird]

Vaccines are not a cure all they basically do is simulate an infection. Which causes your body to respond to it as it were the real virus.


Just a guess but Im thinking maybe some people particularly the elderly may have such a weak immune response to the vaccine that its insufficient to combat the actual virus.


No vaccine is perfect.
In fact vaccines get dosed down for older people. They indeed benefit slightly less, sometimes significantly less from vaccines, the seasonal flu shot as an example. The risk is that the immune system goes bollocks when getting triggered by simulated or real infection, zytokines storming the system and making things worse.

Thats why it is important that the immune system not only gets strenghtened, tooth and claws, but also gets modulated, as it is called, so that less of highly inflammatory and more of less inflammatory cytokines - messager molecules - get produced and used. Herein lies the relevance of vitamine d which is no vitamine but a steroid hormone. It strenghtens AND modulates the i. S.

[Skybird]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57267729



Readers now long used to articles dismissing the lab-leak theory as a dangerous, fringe conspiracy may be slightly bemused to find it suddenly front-page, presented as an entirely plausible possibility.


The truth is, there's always been plenty of circumstantial evidence to support both competing theories. A zoonotic origin, in which the virus passes naturally from bat to humans, is supported by the fact that coronaviruses have crossed the species barrier in exactly this way before.


There are also plenty of precedents for lab leaks in which researchers get accidentally infected by the virus they're working on. The Wuhan outbreak happens to be on the doorstep of the world's leading laboratory for the collection, study and experimentation on bat coronaviruses.


What's changed is not the evidence - of which there is none so far to prove either scenario - but the politics. The lab-leak theory, born into an environment poisoned by disinformation, was undermined not so much by China's denials, but by the fact it was being pumped by former US President Donald Trump.


My own attempts to look seriously at the lab-leak theory in May last year ran into long and fraught editorial discussions before the report finally made it to publication.


The prevailing narrative has also loomed large over the science. Despite the dominant voices of some leading virologists insisting that only a zoonotic origin needed be investigated, a determined group of scientists has continued to argue that both scenarios should remain on the table.


It may be too late, of course. Wherever the debate goes now, China is extremely unlikely to allow another investigation on its soil.

As if it ever had allowed a neutral, objecitve investigatiooin int ej first. The commission the WHO sent, was heavily impeded and was not allowed to collect its own data - instead it was handed over data that first had been examined by Chinese censors.


However, the auhtor is right. Me too has never ruled out the lab theory either, I onyl said that at that time when I said it the zoonosic theory, by all what had been reprted, so far made more sense for more scinetiists, apparently.


I do not even rule out a deliberate release by China - to bring Western economies into turmoil and have China benefitting from the general downturn and chaos.

And yes, I would absolutely see this as an act of war, and would insist that me must retaliate for such a malicous first strike - it would be biological warfare, a military attack with biological weapons. But for that, just claims are not enough, solid proof and evidence would be needed. China acts so brutally and inhumane these days that certainly nothing is too unimaginable as if this cold, inhumane regime would not be capable to carry it out without remorse. I trust them to do absolutely everything. Everything.


But I demand evidence. Not just claims and hear-say. Evidence. Lets hope it just is not true.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB1DCS6Eho

[Jimbuna]

The health secretary tells MPs the "unsubstantiated allegations" from Dominic Cummings that he lied during the pandemic "are not true"

Matt Hancock was called "completely incapable of doing the job" and accused of lying by the PM's ex-aide.

The health secretary says he has been "straight with people in public and private throughout"

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer says the Cummings claims illustrate a a sense of "chaos and incompetence" in the government.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson says there is "nothing in the data" to stop the final stage of lifting lockdown in England on 21 June.

GPs in England say they're struggling to keep up with a “tsunami of patients” as the country emerges from lockdown.

China has accused the US of "blame shifting" after President Joe Biden ordered intelligence agencies to investigate how the virus emerged.

France is putting rules on British travellers, meaning from 31 May UK arrivals will have to quarantine for seven days.

[Jimbuna]

Belgium has halted use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine for anyone under 41, after a woman died in hospital with thrombosis clot and low blood platelets. The EU’s medicines agency is reviewing the case. The same age rules already apply in Belgium to the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. So far most J&J doses have been given to over-45s in Belgium.

The Spanish government has reached an initial agreement with unions and business groups to prolong the country’s furlough scheme until the end of September. The ERTE scheme currently supports over half a million workers. At its peak it was helping 3.6 million people.

German federal and state leaders will consider what to do about vaccinating children, at a summit today. Two vaccine makers are applying for EU approval for over 12s but political leaders have to decide if the risk of children getting Covid is lower than potential side effects of a vaccine. Meanwhile Austria’s health ministry believes the EU’s medicines agency is set to approve the Pfizer vaccine for 12-15 year-olds tomorrow.

French pharmaceutical firm Sanofi has announced the last phase of its Covid vaccine trial. It’s aiming for approval in the last few months of 2021.

German scientists believe they’ve found the cause of rare blood-clotting incidents of people who’ve had the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccinations. The study hasn’t been peer-reviewed yet but the researchers say vaccines that use cold viruses known as adenovirus vectors to deliver the dose send part of it into cell nuclei where instructions for making Covid proteins can be misread. Those new proteins could trigger a blood clot, they say.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoSHkuc0hp8

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/fbHZtB8p/118698230-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-27may-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/06JhhdR0)

[Skybird]

The FAZ writes on BionTech's cowardice (or/and greed) over Taiwan:

Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen has accused China of preventing an agreement with BioNTech on vaccine supplies to Taiwan. "We had almost reached the signing of a contract with the German manufacturer at one point, but it could not be completed because China intervened," said Tsai, according to media reports on Wednesday. Health Minister Chen Shih-chung had previously made similar, but less specific, allegations. On Thursday, he added that Taiwan had sent BioNTech a signed contract and draft press release in January.

The Mainz-based company demanded that Taiwan remove the self-designation as a country from the press release. A week later, BioNTech pointed out delivery bottlenecks and stipulated more time for changes in the contract. BioNTech informed the F.A.Z. one does not comment on potential or ongoing negotiations.

The background to the dispute is presumably that the Chinese Fosun Group claims that it has acquired the exclusive marketing rights for mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan from BioNTech. China regards Taiwan as part of its own territory. Fosun recently offered to "provide Taiwanese compatriots with vaccine". Taiwan refused. Tsai announced on Facebook that her government only purchases vaccines directly from the manufacturer to ensure quality control.

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Disgusting whenbusiness so easily complies with Chinese imperialis, or other political malice. BionTech should have had the spine to not sign a deal with China where China demands sovereignty over Taiwan.

[Jimbuna]

Disgusting whenbusiness so easily complies with Chinese imperialis, or other political malice. BionTech should have had the spine to not sign a deal with China where China demands sovereignty over Taiwan.

Agreed :yep:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoSHkuc0hp8&t=1s

[Jimbuna]

A single-dose Covid vaccine made by Janssen has been approved for use in the UK by the medicines regulator.

The vaccine, which was 85% effective in stopping severe illness from Covid-19 in trials, has met expected safety standards.

Twenty million doses have been ordered for the UK, and will arrive later this year.

It will be the fourth vaccine to be used in the UK to protect against Covid-19.

More than 38 million people have now received a first dose of a vaccine in the UK - nearly three-quarters of the adult population.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57283837

[MaDef]

A single-dose Covid vaccine made by Janssen has been approved for use in the UK by the medicines regulator.

The vaccine, which was 85% effective in stopping severe illness from Covid-19 in trials, has met expected safety standards.
Interesting, in the U.S., the CDC claims the Janssen vaccine is only 66% effective.

[Rockstar]

The claim is that its 85% effective against 'severe' illness.

[Moonlight]

Can everyone whose had the China virus make a claim against China then?.

WUHAN BOMBSHELL Chinese scientists ‘DID create Covid & reverse-engineered disease to cover tracks with bat theory’, shock study claims

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15104087/chinese-scientists-did-create-covid-and-reverse-engineered-disease/

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pktSL5kL3ZI

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/4xG4y2JJ/Untitled11.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

It came from bats-the Corona virus.

That's what I want to believe-I'm a coward afraid of thinking what will happen if it came from a Chinese lab.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzOf6Cj3T-8

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/RF6g9C8q/118741342-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-31may-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/Hcmw9mTC)

[Jimbuna]

Glasgow will see restrictions ease slightly from Saturday after 277 days of tougher curbs.

But many parts of Scotland will not proceed to the next step of the country's roadmap out of lockdown.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says easing must pause in much of Scotland's central belt.

She says there is not an "all size fits all" policy as other areas proceed to the lower level one curbs.

Meanwhile, a scientist says the idea the "job is done is wrong" on the coronavirus pandemic in the UK

Prof Adam Finn warns many are still vulnerable and unlocking too soon could require a U-turn later.

Peru has more than doubled its Covid death toll following a review, making it the country with the world's highest death rate per capita.

In Sweden, bar opening hours are extended as curbs ease, as Italy sees a return to indoor dining.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyZOoFBjc3c

[Jimbuna]

India's health ministry has reported 127,510 new cases of coronavirus over the last 24 hours - its lowest daily rise since 8 April - as deaths rose by 2,795

The World Health Organization (WHO) is renaming Covid variants with Greek letters in an attempt to simplify discussions and remove stigma.

The EU's ambassador to the UK says he hopes those wanting to holiday in Europe later this summer will find the process a lot easier, with many British citizens coming to the EU and many EU citizens visiting the UK

Poland said it will offer the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine to children as young as 12

Germany has lowered its coronavirus risk assessment from very high to high - for the first time in six months

Iraq has recorded its first death from mucormycosis, known as black fungus, which is linked to a Covid treatment.

Russia has announced that it will allow flights to the UK and seven other countries to resume from 2 June, but travel restrictions to Turkey and Tanzania have been extended for another three weeks.

In Turkey, the daily overnight curfew will begin an hour later from today and restaurants will reopen to a limited number of customers. The country went into lockdown for three weeks in late April following a spike in cases.

Germany has pledged to crack down on fraud at coronavirus testing centres, after reports emerged that a some had been claiming government funding for tests that had not been carried out.

France opened up Covid-19 vaccines to all adults on Monday, in what Prime Minister Jean Castex described as a symbolic day. President Emmanuel Macron was among those who received a jab, tweeting: “Vaccinated!”

Peruvians had long suspected they weren't getting the true picture of the country's dire coronavirus situation from the government.
The revised figure for Covid-19 related deaths shows they were right to be doubtful. In fact, the government has admitted the real number is more than twice the previous figure. The official number of deaths has jumped from 69,342 to 180,282

Nearly 171 million cases of Covid have been reported worldwide since the pandemic began, according to Johns Hopkins University data.
The global death toll has also climbed to over 3.5 million. The US, India and Brazil continue to have the highest number of cases and deaths.

[Rockstar]

The World Health Organization (WHO) is renaming Covid variants with Greek letters in an attempt to simplify discussions and remove stigma.


"Oh dear, you look terrible are you OK?"


"Yeah, I just got hit with a Corona Pi."

[Jimbuna]

The government has announced no Covid deaths in all four nations of the UK.

There was a day in July last year when there were zero reported deaths but that was put in the dataset retrospectively, after death data changed to within 28 days of a positive test.

Today is the first time during the pandemic that Government has announced zero deaths in its daily update.

But this milestone comes amid calls to delay easing Covid restrictions in England on 21 June amid warnings of a third wave of infections.

The UK's daily death rate, the number of people being admitted to hospital and those catching the virus have fallen from January's peak.

And some 74.9% of the adult population have received a first dose of Covid vaccine and more than a third have had both doses.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-57313078

[Onkel Neal]

The news media, in its zealous policing of the boundaries of the permissible, insisted that Russiagate was ever so true but that the lab-leak hypothesis was false false false, and woe unto anyone who dared disagree. Reporters gulped down whatever line was most flattering to the experts they were quoting and then insisted that it was 100% right and absolutely incontrovertible — that anything else was only unhinged Trumpist folly, that democracy dies when unbelievers get to speak, and so on.

Right on. Man, best summary of the situation I've read lately.

If the Wuhan lab-leak hypothesis is true, expect a political earthquake
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/01/wuhan-coronavirus-lab-leak-covid-virus-origins-china

[Skybird]

^ Too much of an earthquake, maybe. I wonder whether many Western govenrments will not prefer to conspire with Bejing to keep it under cover so that they must not formulate uncomfortable truths and hostile polices at home when confronting China. Also, unwelcomed questiosn aboth the role of the Un service, namely the WHo, would be asked if the lab thoery gets provne right - but in many Wetsern states, UN instititution are by defintion the always good heroes in shiny armour. But where there is no enemy or evil-doer called out, there is no need of a fight. Sounds like the easier way.

[mapuc]

Right on. Man, best summary of the situation I've read lately.

If the Wuhan lab-leak hypothesis is true, expect a political earthquake
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/01/wuhan-coronavirus-lab-leak-covid-virus-origins-china

That's why I personally decided to believe the bat-theory.

I'm to scared to think what will happen if the lab-theory is correct.

As Skybird also wrote
"I wonder whether many Western govenrments will not prefer to conspire with Bejing to keep it under cover so that they must not formulate uncomfortable truths and hostile polices at home when confronting China."

Maybe they are cowardice in their thinking too.

Markus

[Moonlight]

If the Wuhan lab-leak hypothesis is true, expect a political earthquake
I wouldn't call it a theory, I'd call it a goddamn fact.

DANCE WITH DEATH China’s gung ho biolabs have ‘REPEATEDLY released deadly viruses onto the world’ – so Covid ‘lab leak’ is no shock
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15126591/chinas-biolabs-released-deadly-viruses-covid-lab-leak/

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJSUKDng_Ww

[Mr Quatro]

What do Buddahaid and Aktung and Vienna have in common?

They are now entered into the multi-million dollar lottery for anyone in the state of California that got at least one Covid-19 shot. :o

I finally got the first Covid jab; I'm to receive the second jab just after mid-June, and I hope it goes as well as the first...

California announces $116.5 million in vaccine incentives as demand dips

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/27/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqK77o_ve4g

[Jimbuna]

Portugal is set to be moved from UK's green travel lists to amber - meaning that people can only travel there for essential reasons.

And it looks likely no new countries will be added to the green lists when the latest update is confirmed later.

Seven more countries are set to be added to the red lists, indicating they should only be visited in extreme circumstances.

They are Afghanistan, Bahrain, Costa Rica, Egypt, Sri Lanka, Sudan and Trinidad & Tobago, the BBC understands.

"I understand why people want to travel, of course I do, but we’ve got to make sure we keep this country safe," Matt Hancock says.

Making sure coronavirus vaccines are available "at cost" to poorer nations is a priority, the UK health secretary also says.

17,162 people tested positive for Covid-19 in England in the week to 26 May, up 22% on the previous week and the highest for six weeks.

More than 20 healthcare organisations call for stricter UK guidelines on face masks and other personal protective equipment.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/MpbMx9nB/118779909-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-02jun-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/MnHKmbbZ)

[nikimcbee]

So Neal, do we re-name the thread the Wuhan-Fauci virus?:03:

[Jimbuna]

Portugal moves from the UK's green list to amber from Tuesday - effectively banning holidays there.

No countries will be added to the green list, dashing British holidaymakers' hopes.

Airlines launch extra flights to get Britons home before the deadline.

Travel bosses say the government is failing to stick to its own rules on warning travellers.

The government had previously said there would be a "green watch list" to help people plan.

Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick defends the move, warning of a new variant first identified in Nepal.

The UK's medicines regulator authorises the Pfizer vaccine for use in 12 to 15-year-olds.

The MHRA says clinical trial data shows the jab is "safe and effective in this age group"

Up to 30 people will be able to meet outdoors in Wales from Monday.

The UK records its highest daily number of cases since March, with 5,274 reported on Thursday.

[Jimbuna]

Spain has joined Portugal in expressing its disappointment at the UK’s latest decision on which countries should go on its green list for travel. Spain remains on the UK's amber list and the country's industry and tourism minister Reyes Maroto told Cadena Ser radio: "I think they have been guided more by a criterion of prudence than by the real situation."

Portugal is unhappy at being removed from the green list. From Tuesday anyone returning to the UK has to quarantine for 10 days. More details here.

A Swedish committee of MPs says the government failed in several elements of its handling of the pandemic: by acting slowly to bring in a test-and-trace system, not drawing up a law giving the national government wider powers to deal with the crisis, and not being fast enough in isolating care homes. Sweden avoided imposing a lockdown but the constitutional committee made no comment on that.

Serbia will start full production of Russia’s Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine today. Serbian and Russian officials will attend a ceremony at Belgrade’s Torlak Institute, which aims to produce four million doses over the next six months, for export as well as domestic use.

France has said it will allow Europeans who have had vaccinations into the country without a PCR test from 9 June. Transport minister Jean-Baptiste Djebbari made the announcement on French TV.

Germany’s seven-day incidence rate has continued to fall – it’s now down to 29.7 cases per 100,000 people. A further 86 deaths have been reported in the past 24 hours.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcNkPXkbSD4

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyhMoWDSZ7Y

[Jimbuna]

More than 40 million people in the UK have now had their first dose of a vaccine - or 76.2% of the adult population, figures show.

It comes as the number of people in hospital with Covid rises but not "very significantly," an NHS boss says.

Vaccines appear to have "broken the chain" between catching Covid and becoming seriously ill, Chris Hopson adds.

Despite this, there are a "number of concerning signs" related to the Delta variant which is spreading in the UK, epidemiologists warn.

New figures suggest that in just a week, the number of coronavirus infections in the UK has risen by as much as two-thirds.

Scotland's restriction levels are easing for millions despite an overall rise in cases, with people in Glasgow now able to meet in others' homes.

Surge testing is being rolled out in parts of Berkshire to tackle the spread of the Delta variant, first identified in India.

Airlines are putting on extra capacity to help British travellers return before Portugal moves off the green list for UK travellers on Tuesday.

[Moonlight]

Spain has joined Portugal in expressing its disappointment at the UK’s latest decision on which countries should go on its green list for travel. Spain remains on the UK's amber list and the country's industry and tourism minister Reyes Maroto told Cadena Ser radio: "I think they have been guided more by a criterion of prudence than by the real situation."

The Spanish plonkers complain when the Brits are there and they complain when they're not, suck it up you currants. :haha:

[Moonlight]

It seems like this Iranian Mad Mullah regime is doing things the Western way, who would have thought that these Mullah's were as bent as our own politicians. :O:

Iran leaders under fire for 'having pfizer jabs they banned for public'

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1446091/Iran-vaccine-pfizer-ban

[Skybird]

Water for the masses, wine for the priests. :03:

[Jimbuna]

The Delta variant is 40% more transmissible, the health secretary says, adding that protection against it is just as good with two doses of a vaccine.

Matt Hancock says the variant, first identified in India, makes life more challenging, and the government is "open" to delaying England's 21 June unlocking if needed.

Asked if measures such as face coverings and working from home could continue in the long term, he says he "wouldn't rule that out"

Vaccination is being opened up to the under 30s in England from next week.

Boris Johnson will urge wealthy countries to commit to vaccinating the world against Covid-19 by the end of next year, at a G7 summit.

Pupils in England should take Covid tests following the half-term break, says Education Secretary Gavin Williamson.

The Bafta Television Awards will be held later, with some stars attending in person and some virtually.

[Jimbuna]

Britons scramble for flights home from Portugal before the need to quarantine for 10 days comes into force early tomorrow.

The 21 June easing of restrictions in England should be delayed, leading scientists say.

Major Indian states that have been virus hotpots are easing restrictions as Covid case numbers continue to fall.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock and Education Secretary Gavin Williamson are both due to give coronavirus updates in the Commons later.

People over 70 from Pakistani and Bangladeshi backgrounds are less likely than peers to have had their second vaccine, data shows.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson faces opposition from senior Tories over government cuts to the UK's international aid budget.

Ministers argue it is hard to justify spending as much as promised, given record levels of peacetime borrowing during the pandemic.

UK online daters will be able to display a badge on their profiles to show if they have been vaccinated against Covid.

[Skybird]

Prioritizing has ended in Germany today.
I used the date to send my doc a mail via his formula and had my name put onto a waiting list for vaccination (or thats what I hope they did). Still, it could still take months until first shots become available for people like me.

Vaccination centres unofficially still prioritize.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGMXqAQPYuU

[Jimbuna]

Portugal has moved on to the amber list as UK holidaymakers scramble to get home.

Those returning to the UK from Portugal must now take two tests and quarantine for 10 days.

Tougher restrictions have been advised in Greater Manchester and parts of Lancashire to combat the Delta variant.

The number of Covid-related deaths registered in the UK in week ending 28 May was 106 - nine fewer than the previous week.

People in England aged 25-29 can book a Covid vaccine from today.

Some over-25s in England report being unable to book their jabs through the NHS website.

Boris Johnson is expected to consult his cabinet this weekend on whether to push back the June 21 "Freedom Day"

Unicef is calling for G7 rich countries to send 20% of their vaccines to poorer nations by August.

The five-day office week could become the norm again within two years, the Centre for Cities think tank has told the BBC

[Jimbuna]

Czech children and schoolteachers will no longer have to wear masks in classrooms from this morning, in all but three regions. Masks are still required in the rest of school. More than 45% of adults have had a first dose in the Czech Republic and the government says it’s allowing non-essential travel from across the EU as well as Serbia from 21 June as long as proof of vaccination, negative test or previous infection is provided.

Days before Spain’s national football team takes part in the Euro 2020 championships, the team may now have to be vaccinated after one of the players, Sergio Busquets, tested positive for Covid. The squad and coaching staff have all tested negative. Spain continue their warm-up for the tournament today with a game against Lithuania. Spain reopened its borders to tourists and cruise ships yesterday for fully vaccinated people – although the UK requires quarantine for any visitor to Spain on their return.

French President Emmanuel Macron meets restaurateurs today, the day before indoor dining reopens in bars and restaurants after seven months of closure. Gyms will also start reopening tomorrow and the overnight curfew will be pushed back from 21:00 to 23:00.

From tomorrow, wearing masks will no longer be required in Belgium’s Brussels region, although will still be compulsory in busy places, inside shops and on public transport.

Health experts in Serbia say the pandemic is causing a regional shortage of anti-venom serum for snakebites. The main supplier, Serbia’s Torlak Institute, has not produced any doses this year, as it concentrates on production of the Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine. The European adder is widespread in the region.

[Mr Quatro]

https://news.yahoo.com/does-covid-19-end-us-100246372.html

As of June 3, COVID-19 was killing an average of 363 Americans a day, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That's down from more than 3,000 a day at the height of the pandemic in January, and with more vaccinations, the daily death toll continues to fall.

They also say that 100 deaths a day may become normal next flu season just like the regular flu ... :o

of course I have been trying to find out who they are for many year's now :yep:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6bWBDWidZ4

[Skybird]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/bies.202000240

https://www.wsj.com/articles/intelligence-on-sick-staff-at-wuhan-lab-fuels-debate-on-covid-19-origin-11621796228


All ^ found here:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.achgut.com/artikel/wuhan_affaere_die_weltbevoelkerung_in_die_irre_gef uehrt

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38NuwkSmv_A

[August]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=443&v=xVFrEorkTxM&feature=emb_logo

[mapuc]

In a medical survey made in (forgot the country) showed that vegetarian had 60-70 % higher chance for not getting infected or was better equip to fight the virus if they got infected.

Markus

[3catcircus]

In a medical survey made in (forgot the country) showed that vegetarian had 60-70 % higher chance for not getting infected or was better equip to fight the virus if they got infected.

Markus

I don't doubt it. In most western nations, livestock is pumped full of antibiotics and hormones to come to market size more quickly on less feed. It's entirely unnatural and harmful to the entire food chain. While I enjoy eating meat, I'd prefer that it be eaten the way those in Asia and the Med do - primarily as a flavoring - or as extremely high quality naturally-raised meat from well-treated animals. I'd rather eat a few cubes of Tajima beef served as robatayaki rather than a 20 ounce US prime tomahawk steak on most occasions.

That's not to say I don't enjoy a large steak, but I don't need it.

The opposite concern is the damage done by vegans/vegetarians by constantly feeding boys and men soy as their main source of protein when it causes higher estrogen levels in them. Legumes, beans, etc. are fine if you change it up often.

A moderation diet with high quality food is best - and that is the problem with most western diets - the quality is generally terrible. Eggs with orange yellow yolks instead of bright orange. Bread that is mostly air (or wheat in name only). Meat full of hormones. Fruit and veg eaten out of season that tastes like the warehouse they were stored in. Way too much hidden added sugar. Many processed "foods" that taste nothing like what they would if they were made from scratch.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by mapuc View Post
In a medical survey made in (forgot the country) showed that vegetarian had 60-70 % higher chance for not getting infected or was better equip to fight the virus if they got infected.

Markus


I don't doubt it. In most western nations, livestock is pumped full of antibiotics and hormones to come to market size more quickly on less feed. It's entirely unnatural and harmful to the entire food chain. While I enjoy eating meat, I'd prefer that it be eaten the way those in Asia and the Med do - primarily as a flavoring - or as extremely high quality naturally-raised meat from well-treated animals. I'd rather eat a few cubes of Tajima beef served as robatayaki rather than a 20 ounce US prime tomahawk steak on most occasions.

That's not to say I don't enjoy a large steak, but I don't need it.

The opposite concern is the damage done by vegans/vegetarians by constantly feeding boys and men soy as their main source of protein when it causes higher estrogen levels in them. Legumes, beans, etc. are fine if you change it up often.

A moderation diet with high quality food is best - and that is the problem with most western diets - the quality is generally terrible. Eggs with orange yellow yolks instead of bright orange. Bread that is mostly air (or wheat in name only). Meat full of hormones. Fruit and veg eaten out of season that tastes like the warehouse they were stored in. Way too much hidden added sugar. Many processed "foods" that taste nothing like what they would if they were made from scratch.

Good points ... all of them :up:

Share more often :yep:

[Catfish]

^ and ^^ i concur :up:

AP News: "Biden to lay out vax donations, urge world leaders to join"
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-africa-g-7-summit-coronavirus-pandemic-2a95a7f4da8f8899d3039ad3a46ddd31
Seems the US is back.

[mapuc]

In a medical survey made in (forgot the country) showed that vegetarian had 60-70 % higher chance for not getting infected or was better equip to fight the virus if they got infected.

Markus

Found an English article regarding this survey

People whose diets are plant-based and those who eat fish but not meat appear to have lower odds of getting a severe infection compared with others.

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-07/covid-being-vegan-or-pescatarian-may-reduce-severity-of-coronavirus-study-suggests

I was not 100 % accurate though in my first post-Sorry.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE_lXnqDylU

[Catfish]

Europe tells tourists: Welcome back! Now work out the rules :03:

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-travel-coronavirus-vaccine-health-83594cbef7ac77a7522210f990a6aeff

[Skybird]

In a medical survey made in (forgot the country) showed that vegetarian had 60-70 % higher chance for not getting infected or was better equip to fight the virus if they got infected.

Markus
I am not surprised, due to some of the reasons already given by 3catcircus. While I am not against eating meat, I strongly recommend "clean" meat from grass-fed cattle living on the meadow. No corn-feeding, no soy feeding. Grass-fed means: the animals fatty acids have m ore inflammatory Omega6 and less non-inflammatory Omega 3. Pastzured means the animals forms MUCH better ratipos between Omega 6 and Omega 3, less of the first and more of the latter.



Inflammation caused by an overspiking immune system (cytokine storm) is one of th ebig issues with Covid-19. Most of the damages patients suffer, do not come from the virus, but the immune system causing a nightmare of collateral damages. Its not enoguh tio just strenghten it, you also must modulate it, as I have often explained by now.



However, "bio"-standard-raised meat can also have its problems, since "bio" production not automatically always leads to better quality of animal wellbeing. Especially when the animals become ill, but are under a "bio" regime, they easily can suffer more, since they are banned from effective conventional therapies.



On soy, I linked a translated text recently, and soy to me is a major concern, it got that meanwhile, while twenty years ago I ate plenty of Tofu, I had good recipes for marinades for it. But no more, not even in food for animals, if i can avoid it. I placed a link in the health thread, here it is again:


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://paleolifestyle.de/gesundheit/soja-ungesund/


Avoid it, if you can. Japanese traditionally eat it only in combination with certain foods that neutralise some of its negative fallouts, and they do not eat it as much as Westerners may think.



Soy, btw, like caniola/rapesee in thwe west, wa snot farmed for human consummaiton, originally, but as animal food on farms (while canola was farmed to make lamp oil and soap from it, it was intended for human cosumption originally, that hgjmans can eat it (with still quite high amounts of inflammatory Omega-6 fatty acids) was discovere dlater only. Or claimed.



Vegetarians and Vegans suffer typical shortages of micro nutrients, which they must supplement. It takes a lot of knowledge to eat this style, and still enjoy the limited rnages of tastes, and not suffer too huge deficits. Its possible, but is very enagging. If oyu think you just need an apple more per day and do nto eat meat and milk anymore, then you sooner or later will pay the health price. The bills will be presented not before many years have gone by. But it will be presented. So if you go this way, do your homework, and learn. A lot.



I respect it if people eat no animals for ethical reasons, I did so myself for ten years , in my twenties, and because meat then was not up to my taste (that has changed), and then changed again). I only insist that their choice does not legitimize them to enforce their food reigme on others as well.

[Skybird]

That vegetarians are not as heavily infected by Corona, may also have other reasons than just their food habits. Could be that their generlal living conditions are such that they confront or avoid the virus better. More awareness for general healthy living styles.

[Skybird]

Yesterday, brief headline in German news: some cuise ship made a stop, then went to sea again, with tourists back on board. Immediately corona numbers are skyrocketing upwards on board. Did not read the full story, since I was not suprised.

Airline flioghts and curising tours are stupid thigns to do, so is to do mass tourism in trains, busses, crowded closed compartments...

It seems nature does not recognise human claim for holiday travels being a natural right. Too bad.

Indian variant in Britain taking over command, numbers of new infeciton are racing upwards. Not good. In Germany, the variation has arrived. Reason for worries. Vaccines seem to not work too well on this one.

Got info from my doc's office, on my vaccination date request. To put it short: They were laughing. Think I can forget that option.

The german perfect plans. Too good for reality. Meanwhile the German health wannabe minister snapped oiver being attacked and criticised for his dilletantic and costly Corona mismanagement and always too late decision making. As always, nothing is ever his fault.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImzsGesBApM

[Jimbuna]

Nearly two-thirds of people infected with the Delta variant, and more than half of those who have died with it, have not had a Covid vaccine at all, the latest official data suggests.

There have been nearly 30,000 new UK cases of the variant in the past week.

The Public Health England report says it is likely to spread more easily and could make people more seriously ill.

Officials say two doses of the vaccine provide "significantly more protection" than one.

The Delta variant, which was first identified in India, is now the dominant variant in the UK - accounting for 90% of cases.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57441677

[Moonlight]

Sooner or later this China virus could produce a variant that is resistant to all the vaccines available and it could be a bigger killer than what we've already seen.
Our Tory government didn't act swiftly enough to put India on the red list and if they keep getting things wrong like this they will cost lives and possibly millions of them.

I don't see the logic in going on holiday and cruises as you're just inviting the virus to change, the more different bodies it comes into contact with the more chance of a more deadly version to appear.

I am the harbinger of doom. :O:

[mapuc]

^ I have mentioned this a couple of times in this thread-A fear that this Corona Virus may mutate so the vaccine we have today will have no effect and the mutation would become much more deadly.


Markus

[Moonlight]

LAB 'LEAK' WHO chief says Wuhan Covid lab leak theory can’t be ruled out and insists China should help solve the ‘origin’ of virus

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15254668/covid-lab-leak-theory-who-chief-tedros-origin/

This currant has changed his view, he reminds me of a politician who votes for whatever view is more popular even when it goes against everything they believe in, you can't be trusted you pillock. :o

[mapuc]

Don't how it looks like in your country.

Here in Denmark a sign of A and B people are on the rise. People who for some reason don't want the vaccine is being treated like the Jews was before and during WWII. See it daily on FB.

I myself will have the vaccine I'll wait though a year or so. This to monitor the longterm side effects.

Now following could be classified as Conspiracy.

Could this Vaccine been on it's way long before we learned about Corona and Covid-19. Here I'm thinking about the Lab-theory ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJrfPFTk3pU

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUcY1qdywTc

[Jimbuna]

Boris Johnson confirms a four-week delay to the lifting of all restrictions in England beyond 21 June.

Capacity limits for sports, pubs and cinemas will remain, and nightclubs will stay closed.

The delay is designed to allow more people to be vaccinated and have second doses amid rising cases of the Delta variant.

Businesses are fearful of further heavy losses and the clubbing trade body is threatening legal action.

Headache, sore throat, runny nose are now the most commonly reported symptoms linked to Covid infection in the UK, researchers say.

India has reported 70,421 new infections - its lowest number since 31 March and down from a peak of about 400,000 daily cases in May.

[Jimbuna]

All adults in England should be able to book their Covid-19 jab by the end of this week, NHS boss Sir Simon Stevens says.

He says vaccine supply is constrained, so the NHS is pacing itself, but it is time to finish the job.

It's unlikely Scotland will move to level 0 - near normal - restrictions on 28 June, with a final decision due next week, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says.

The regrettable delay to easing lockdown in England is so that the government does not find it has to reverse its decision, Cabinet minister Michael Gove says.

Industry figures say live music, theatre and other events have been dealt a "hammer blow" by the delay.

Without delay, it's possible the country could have returned to hundreds of deaths a day, Sage scientist Professor Graham Medley says.

The PM confirmed on Monday that there would be a four-week delay to the lifting of all restrictions beyond 21 June due to the rapid spread of the Delta variant.

There were 108 deaths registered involving Covid-19 in the week ending 4 June 2021, two more than the previous week, ONS figures show.

[Jimbuna]

Meanwhile in Europe

France starts Covid vaccinations for 12-17-year-olds today, but under strict conditions. Both parents have to agree to the vaccination and one of them has to be present. The only vaccine approved so far for under 15s in the EU is the Pfizer-BioNTech drug.

The EU's 27 countries have carried out 300 million vaccinations so far, according to European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen. She’s tweeted that enough doses have now been delivered “to vaccinate 70% of adults in the EU next month”.

France play Germany in Munich this evening in the European Championships and French police have been urged by the government to show leniency towards the public in enforcing the 23:00 overnight curfew after the final whistle goes. But Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin says that leniency should only apply to people returning home after the match and not as a licence to prolong their parties.

Dutch Covid officials are weighing up a swifter end to the requirement to wear masks in public places such as shops and restaurants, because of falling infection rates. The same debate is being held in Germany where infection rates are at their lowest for eight months.

Italy has recorded fewer than 1,000 daily infections for the first time since last September. More than 500 patients are still in intensive care and another 36 deaths were recorded yesterday.

The Spanish capital Madrid is to reopen nightclubs and cocktail bars until 03:00 from 21 June, that’s two hours later than now. However, capacity has to to kept to 50% of usual numbers.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-a19Pk-yCQ

[em2nought]

Jon Stewart's take on what happened. :har:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0-90kvoQac

[Moonlight]

The Chinese are at it again, if the WHO had put as much effort into getting rid of this China virus than China has in denying it the China virus would be just a horrible memory by now, I can't wait for Mr Xi wotsisname to call a press conference and say "It was aliens that did it and not yanks and frogs". :haha:

ERASING HISTORY Covid emerged in America and France BEFORE Wuhan and should be probed as a bioweapon, claim Chinese scientists
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/worldnews/15296357/covid-america-france-before-wuhan-probed-bioweapon-chinese-scientists/

[Skybird]

After reporting an efficiency of only 47%, the second German vaccine by Curevac from Thübingen probably will never make it onto the market. Stock values of the company are in free fall as investors stare with icy eyes into their mirrors, and see pure panic staring back. :O:

Called three more doctors for the jab, all said nothing is available for the coming weeks and months. Reconnected again with the online portals of vaccination centres - they both said they have shut down the date-making, since no vaccines are availabe for first jabs, and that this will remain to be so for the next weeks at least. For June and July I have given it up now. It will be like I said in last winter: before winter 2021/22, there is no hope to get jabbed, no matter which vaccine.

Biontech and Johnson and Johnson said they have dramatically reduced projected numbers of doses delivered to germany in the next 2 months at least.

Spreading of the Indian variant is winnig in pace. If it continues like this I see the chance that this could become a shorter summer than many hope. But then, it is national elections this autumn, so they will delay unpopular measures. Which will help again the virus.

Also, many city centres and small and private businesses will not survive a fourth lockdown. Finances and debts for the state not even talked of.

The EU demands more powers given to it form the pandemic. It demands the power to declare a EU-wide state of health emergency authorizing it to govern over the heads of national parliaments. So, they have messed up drastically everything they did and where they intervened without formally being authorized and legally legitimtised to do, and this failure now becomes the excuse to give them even greater playfield and rights so that their future failures will cause even bigger harms or more far-reaching consequences.

Never let a crisis pass by unused.


In the old town and city centre of where I live, around every fourth shop and restaurant is gone, and some more are mulling to leave. Where new shops moved in already, they all are belonging to chain shops and big labels. Same for restaurant and food service: those who came new, all belong to fastfood chains.

[3catcircus]

^ I have mentioned this a couple of times in this thread-A fear that this Corona Virus may mutate so the vaccine we have today will have no effect and the mutation would become much more deadly.


Markus

That's generally *not* how viruses mutate. They exist to do one thing only - replicate. Anything that hinders that (such as increasing the chance of killing the host) is not likely to happen. You'll note that the Indian variant is more contagious, yet hospitalizations and deaths have not increased as a result (above and beyond the amount that would be decreased as prevented by vaccinations).

Look at how the last major coronavirus with significant spread turned out - it's one of the endemic causes of the common cold. This'll turn out the same way.

[3catcircus]

After reporting an efficiency of only 47%, the second German vaccine by Curevac from Thübingen probably will never make it onto the market. Stock values of the company are in free fall as investors stare with icy eyes into their mirrors, and see pure panic staring back. :O:

Called three more doctors for the jab, all said nothing is available for the coming weeks and months. Reconnected again with the online portals of vaccination centres - they both said they have shut down the date-making, since no vaccines are availabe for first jabs, and that this will remain to be so for the next weeks at least. For June and July I have given it up now. It will be like I said in last winter: before winter 2021/22, there is no hope to get jabbed, no matter which vaccine.

Biontech and Johnson and Johnson said they have dramatically reduced projected numbers of doses delivered to germany in the next 2 months at least.

Spreading of the Indian variant is winnig in pace. If it continues like this I see the chance that this could become a shorter summer than many hope. But then, it is national elections this autumn, so they will delay unpopular measures. Which will help again the virus.

Also, many city centres and small and private businesses will not survive a fourth lockdown. Finances and debts for the state not even talked of.

The EU demands more powers given to it form the pandemic. It demands the power to declare a EU-wide state of health emergency authorizing it to govern over the heads of national parliaments. So, they have messed up drastically everything they did and where they intervened without formally being authorized and legally legitimtised to do, and this failure now becomes the excuse to give them even greater playfield and rights so that their future failures will cause even bigger harms or more far-reaching consequences.

Never let a crisis pass by unused.


In the old town and city centre of where I live, around every fourth shop and restaurant is gone, and some more are mulling to leave. Where new shops moved in already, they all are belonging to chain shops and big labels. Same for restaurant and food service: those who came new, all belong to fastfood chains.

The inability to get an experimental vaccine is directly related to the demand by the EU regarding liability. No risk, no reward.

[3catcircus]

The Chinese are at it again, if the WHO had put as much effort into getting rid of this China virus than China has in denying it the China virus would be just a horrible memory by now, I can't wait for Mr Xi wotsisname to call a press conference and say "It was aliens that did it and not yanks and frogs". :haha:

ERASING HISTORY Covid emerged in America and France BEFORE Wuhan and should be probed as a bioweapon, claim Chinese scientists
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/worldnews/15296357/covid-america-france-before-wuhan-probed-bioweapon-chinese-scientists/

Which supports even more strongly the origin as a lab leak, given the Asian cultural norm that doesn't confront bad news head on. They'd rather pretend a problem doesn't exist rather than deal with it.

The conspiracy isn't a lab leak, it's the possible coverup that the US funded the research that caused the lab leak - primarily because of stupid naivete or head-in-the-sand that funding China *wouldn't* result in them doing GoF research or that the PLA *wouldn't* weaponize the research.

That WIV was operating their facilities in an unsafe manner should have resulted in cutting off the funding until they fixed themselves.

[3catcircus]

Boris Johnson confirms a four-week delay to the lifting of all restrictions in England beyond 21 June.

Capacity limits for sports, pubs and cinemas will remain, and nightclubs will stay closed.

The delay is designed to allow more people to be vaccinated and have second doses amid rising cases of the Delta variant.

Businesses are fearful of further heavy losses and the clubbing trade body is threatening legal action.

Headache, sore throat, runny nose are now the most commonly reported symptoms linked to Covid infection in the UK, researchers say.

India has reported 70,421 new infections - its lowest number since 31 March and down from a peak of about 400,000 daily cases in May.

Are hospitalization and death trending up due to the Indian strain, or just more cases of the sniffles?

[mapuc]

That's generally *not* how viruses mutate. They exist to do one thing only - replicate. Anything that hinders that (such as increasing the chance of killing the host) is not likely to happen. You'll note that the Indian variant is more contagious, yet hospitalizations and deaths have not increased as a result (above and beyond the amount that would be decreased as prevented by vaccinations).

Look at how the last major coronavirus with significant spread turned out - it's one of the endemic causes of the common cold. This'll turn out the same way.


In the Swedish news program they said that this Delta variant was 3-4 times severe than the alpha variant-In other words it's 3-4 times higher chance an infected would end in the hospital.

from what I know this Delta-variant is a double mutation-Whatever that means.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

All adults in England will be able to book a coronavirus jab from tomorrow, the health secretary says.

Scientists tracking the Covid epidemic in England say it is growing - with much of it being driven by younger people who are not yet immunised.

ONS analysis shows that the risk of getting infected is highest in the first three weeks after vaccination and falls after a second jab.

Covid restrictions in Wales are unlikely to be significantly relaxed until July because of the Delta variant, we understand.

The Welsh NHS is under substantial pressure as services return to pre-pandemic levels, its chief executive warns.

Ryanair and Manchester Airport Group have now filed a legal challenge to the UK government's travel rules.

Two more regions of Russia introduce mandatory vaccinations for people in public-facing jobs.

French authorities believe they are gaining control of the virus, and it is no longer compulsory to wear masks outdoors except in crowded areas.

International health agencies warn many African countries face a "growing crisis" of severe oxygen shortages.

[Jimbuna]

The UK now has the highest coronavirus case rate - 82.7 cases per 100,000 people - in Europe.

One month ago the picture looked rather different. Other European countries were reporting many more cases per day than the UK.

But with the spread of the Delta variant, UK case numbers are rising again and as we all know, the government has delayed the lifting of restrictions by a further four weeks.

Portugal is also seeing a rise in cases, but in many of our neighbouring countries cases continue to fall.

France's daily figures were recently revised, but its case rate is still below the UK's and trending downward.

It's hard to rank countries precisely because they count cases differently and so some countries might look slightly higher or lower if they used the UK's counting.

https://i.postimg.cc/fR5HwLDv/58d7e1ab-832e-43ab-bdb5-efe98025b0bc.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReDzaHoNwi0

[3catcircus]

In the Swedish news program they said that this Delta variant was 3-4 times severe than the alpha variant-In other words it's 3-4 times higher chance an infected would end in the hospital.

from what I know this Delta-variant is a double mutation-Whatever that means.

Markus

The double mutations are L425R and E484Q. These have the effect of increasing transmissibility, and lowering the effectiveness of antibodies, respectively. Neither of which directly affects whether or not someone becomes hospitalized or dies.

They make it easier to pass along, and easier to evade the immune system and continue replicating after transmission. That, assuming no mutation results in an outcompeting stain, mess that the Indian strain will very likely make covid become an endemic seasonal common cold.

That's the rub - who cares how many cases of covid happen if we're already at the point that hospitalizations and deaths are miniscule because it's endemic? OC43 was believed to have caused the 1889-1890 "Russian Flu." It's now endemic - we don't care who gets it, we don't test for it, and we don't quarantine or mask for it. We don't for adenovirus or rhinovirus, nor seasonal flu.

In fact, the widespread panic this past year means we'll *never* know if covid was actually as deadly as claimed.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJpyvAv-oFQ

[Jimbuna]

A single Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccine dose reduces chances of catching coronavirus and going to hospital with it by about 75%, data suggests.

First Minister Mark Drakeford confirms a delay to the easing of restrictions in Wales, saying a third wave is under way.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson says he's confident restrictions in England can be eased on the new target date of 19 July.

He also says he has complete confidence in Health Secretary Matt Hancock.

There has been a 79% rise in cases of the Delta variant across the UK in a week.

And the number of people in hospital in England with the Delta variant has doubled in a week.

All adults in England can book a coronavirus jab from today - a "watershed moment", according to NHS boss Sir Simon Stevens.

Israel is to provide a million Covid vaccines to the Palestinian Authority, the office of Israel's new prime minister says.

London's famous Notting Hill Carnival will not go ahead on the streets for the second year running.

Europe

The Portuguese government has imposed a weekend travel ban on the capital Lisbon in a bid to shield the rest of the country from the spread of Covid. The Lisbon metropolitan area accounts for two-thirds of daily Covid cases - 804 were recorded in the capital yesterday. The travel ban starts at 15:00 today and lasts until 06:00 on Monday. Residents and visitors can only make essential trips in or out. The number of hospital admissions has almost doubled in the capital in three weeks.

The situation in Russia’s capital Moscow is “rapidly deteriorating” according to Mayor Sergei Sobyanin. The head of the public health watchdog, Anna Popova, says the biggest rise in cases is among 18-49 year-olds, many of whom "have completely disregarded" Covid safety measures. Vaccinations in the city are now compulsory for 60% of service sector staff.

Dutch Covid officials have recommended 1.5m (5ft) social distancing should stay in place at least until mid-August but masks will only be required on public transport and in airports after 26 June, reports say. It means by the end of the month people will be allowed to return to work - up to 50% capacity in offices - as long as the 1.5m rule is observed.

France began enjoying life without masks outdoors yesterday, apart from crowded areas such as queues. "The likelihood of being in contact with someone infectious is a tenth of what is was two months ago," says epidemiologist Arnaud Fontanet.

The Croatian port city of Split is welcoming its first cruise ship for nine months this morning. MSC Splendida is the first of more than 150 cruise ships due to arrive there this summer - half the number the city expects in a peak year.

[Rockstar]

NSFW - language and why the left and democrats are a mob of virtue signaling gullable morons like the Qanon crowd.

(maybe it belongs in U.S. Politics thread)

https://youtu.be/y6D8bQs-E8A

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/xT4fBT5F/118965682-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-17jun-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/568WCJZw)

[Jimbuna]

The EU has lost a legal battle in Brussels to force Anglo-Swedish drug maker AstraZeneca to supply 120m doses of Covid-19 vaccine by the end of June.

It went to court last month after the company delayed shipment of the vital vaccines, having originally committed to supply 300m doses by the same date.

However, the EU demand was not satisfied by the judge in Brussels.

But the judge did impose deadlines on AstraZeneca to supply doses to the EU over the summer or face hefty fines.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57531064

[Skybird]

The Belgian court story kept me entertained today, for I chuckled about how totally opposing both sides views and comments were, with both claiming victory and that the court had confirmed their views.

But when checking the numbers, and what is known about the wording of the sentence, it dawned on me that the EU once again was juggling with words in an effort to look strong where indeed it only could claim a minor additional gain in doses for this month and following month.

Super-Uschi and her deputies does what they always do: weaseling in slaloms between heavy mightily impressive word-facades.

The triumphant headlines German national media were giving earlier this day, all have been removed meanwhile, it seems. I had two on mind I wanted to post - they are gone. :har:

[Jimbuna]

A new wave of infections is definitely under way in England, says Prof Adam Finn of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation.

But epidemiologist Dr Mike Tildesley says he is "cautiously hopeful" hospital admissions will not be on the same scale as in January.

Labour is calling for workers to have the right to work flexibly before coronavirus restrictions are fully lifted in England.

Some people on furlough are avoiding a return to work because it has been "great" for them, says Tory MP Andrea Leadsom.

Italy is to introduce a five-day Covid quarantine for travellers from the UK from Monday as concerns over Delta variant increase.

The Palestinian Authority has cancelled a deal under which Israel was to give it one million Pfizer jabs because they were too close to expiry.

Lord Lloyd Webber has rejected offer to make new show a pilot event, but says musical will abide by current social distancing measures.

[Rockstar]

https://youtu.be/Du2wm5nhTXY

[Skybird]

Malone and Weinstein hardly can be denounced as anti-vaccers, Malone in fact is the "inventor" of mRNA vaccines and is vaccinated. Weinstein got chased off the Campus by woke left wing students while describing himself as left wing, ibertarian. Tbe engineer on the right is just annoying.



What authorities do I think is weighing the risks of vaccination side effects against the risks of nlt vaccinating at all. And they come to the conclusions they come to, and to which even Malone must have agreed, else he and his wife would not have gotten vaccinated.



That the political establishment and business lobbies lie, is what they usually always do day in day out, right. Its a stinking rotten system and people most of the time love it.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef33SyzKJy0&t=29s

[Jimbuna]

Dr Susan Hopkins of Public Health England says Covid restrictions are more likely to end if 70% of adults are vaccinated by 19 July.

Walk-in vaccine clinics are open across England this weekend, in a major push to offer jabs to all remaining adults.

Public Health England say there has been a 79% rise in one week in cases of the Delta variant, driven by younger age groups.

The number of deaths related to Covid-19 has passed 500,000 in Brazil, with intensive care units running close to capacity.

Manchester mayor Andy Burnham has demanded compensation from the Scottish government after a travel ban between Glasgow and Manchester.

The outbreak in Brazil could worsen, amid slow vaccination and the start of winter: only 15% of adults are fully vaccinated.

The US has sent 2.5 million doses of coronavirus vaccine to Taiwan, prompting messages of gratitude on the island amid a shortage of jabs.

Russia has reported 17,611 new coronavirus cases today, including 8,305 in Moscow, taking the official national tally since the pandemic began to 5,316,826.

China has administered more than one billion doses of vaccine against the coronavirus - more than a third of jabs given globally, its health ministry says.

[Rockstar]

Malone and Weinstein hardly can be denounced as anti-vaccers, Malone in fact is the "inventor" of mRNA vaccines and is vaccinated. Weinstein got chased off the Campus by woke left wing students while describing himself as left wing, ibertarian. Tbe engineer on the right is just annoying.



What authorities do I think is weighing the risks of vaccination side effects against the risks of nlt vaccinating at all. And they come to the conclusions they come to, and to which even Malone must have agreed, else he and his wife would not have gotten vaccinated.



That the political establishment and business lobbies lie, is what they usually always do day in day out, right. Its a stinking rotten system and people most of the time love it.


There will always be risks and I happily took mine last month. But I'm glad I did before I saw this video. :) Though nolonger a problem it may have explained my mild hand tremor.

Oh well, life goes on dont worry too much. We might get hit by a planet killing asteroid or a delivery truck tomorrow.

[Mr Quatro]

There will always be risks and I happily took mine last month. But I'm glad I did before I saw this video. :) Though nolonger a problem it may have explained my mild hand tremor.

Oh well, life goes on dont worry too much. We might get hit by a planet killing asteroid or a delivery truck tomorrow.

I don't think anyone will know what's going to happen till maybe Oct/Nov when the flue season comes back for the East Coast at least a little later for the West Coast.

Then the symptoms will be close enough to worry everyone. Is it the flue or is it Covid-19 back in another form?

Time will tell ... I think I have done the right thing by getting both shots.

Disclaimer: I have been wrong before :D

[Skybird]

I think I have done the right thing by getting both shots.
This a side-effect of the vaccine... :O:

I have been wrong before :D
... and that is not. :O:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of5_oiuqDp8

[Jimbuna]

19 July still 'looking good' to be terminus point for restrictions in England, Boris Johnson says.

But he says Delta variant cases are still rising and the priority is to keep more variants out of the UK

Flu could be a bigger problem than Covid this winter, expert warns, with immunity levels 'likely to have droped'

Doctors and hospital trusts say the government must begin planning for an autumn jab rollout now.

The government says it is planning autumn Covid booster shots - but awaiting trial results.

Venues for the delayed Tokyo Olympics will be allowed up to 10,000 spectators - half their normal capacity.

It comes after the Olympic Village saw its first positive Covid case in a foreign athlete, a Ugandan who had been fully vaccinated.

A ban on non-essential travel between Scotland and Manchester and Salford has come into force.

[mapuc]

Read that one of the side effect from this Delta variant should be some kind of blindness-No lost of smell and taste though.

Markus

[August]

Flu could be a bigger problem than Covid this winter, expert warns, with immunity levels 'likely to have droped'


Lies! We have been told, lectured and nagged repeatedly that Covid is much much worse than the flu so that is just not possible. It was "science" that can't be argued, so they said, and now they are flip flopping?

[Dowly]

Lies! We have been told, lectured and nagged repeatedly that Covid is much much worse than the flu so that is just not possible. It was "science" that can't be argued, so they said, and now they are flip flopping?
What they're saying is that due to lockdowns etc. flu seasons have been milder than normally causing peoples' immune systems to weaken against regular flu. Now that lockdowns are starting to widely end, flu might come back stronger than usual this season.

[Jimbuna]

Here in the UK it is being rumoured that everyone (not sure if there are any age restrictions) will be offered a Covid booster as well as the Flu jab.

[Rockstar]

What they're saying is that due to lockdowns etc. flu seasons have been milder than normally causing peoples' immune systems to weaken against regular flu. Now that lockdowns are starting to widely end, flu might come back stronger than usual this season.


Maybe they're trying to say is people die from the regular flu every year. But due to wide spread weakened immune systems because of the lock down there may be a chance even more people will die from it.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/XvMzzKc2/119020931-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-22jun-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/DSg6WXNs)

[3catcircus]

Maybe they're trying to say is people die from the regular flu every year. But due to wide spread weakened immune systems because of the lock down there may be a chance even more people will die from it.

But follow all that sciency-science that "experts" have been pushing when they "oh, no, have no conflict of interest" in pushing things that fundamentally were political rather than based on actual scientific method.

Who knew that an immune system would become less capable of responding as a result of lockdowns?!?! Other than *anyone* with a solid understanding of the fact that stress and loneliness impacts the Immune system. But hey, keep on listening to Fauxi and Daszak... No conflict of interest from them, nosirree...

[Catfish]

Are you kidding? No joke, i really want to know :)

[Skybird]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51VO527K9zL._SX348_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B08M1QXXF6/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3 %91&dchild=1&keywords=dinicolantonio&qid=1624396373&sr=8-2

Good read.
But invulnerable you do not get when following it. You just shift chances in your favour a bit.

Loneliness, as a form of stress, is just one amongst many factors having a certain amount of influence on the immune system. Not the factor.

[August]

Maybe they're trying to say is people die from the regular flu every year. But due to wide spread weakened immune systems because of the lock down there may be a chance even more people will die from it.


Bah. People missing being exposed to the flu virus for one single season is not going to make a significant difference in the mortality rate. That's what they are claiming. Ridiculous sez I.

[3catcircus]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51VO527K9zL._SX348_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B08M1QXXF6/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3 %91&dchild=1&keywords=dinicolantonio&qid=1624396373&sr=8-2

Good read.
But invulnerable you do not get when following it. You just shift chances in your favour a bit.

Loneliness, as a form of stress, is just one amongst many factors having a certain amount of influence on the immune system. Not the factor.

You need to consider that for many people, these lockdowns were the first time in their lives that they have been away from other people - that loneliness translates into a huge amount of stress.

The someone like me who generally hates people (and as a former submariner IRL), not so much; rather the stress is due to being enraged at seeing the futility of health theater imposed by politicians that did nothing coupled with decisions made in the dead of night by those same hypocritical politicians that actually killed vulnerable people and seeing the perpetrators not being beaten to death by angry citizens.

[Moonlight]

WUHAN WHITEWASH China deleted Covid data to cover up ‘Patient Zero’ as pressure mounts over lab leak, bombshell study claims
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15367128/china-deleted-covid-data/

The truth will eventually outweigh the lies.

[3catcircus]

Bah. People missing being exposed to the flu virus for one single season is not going to make a significant difference in the mortality rate. That's what they are claiming. Ridiculous sez I.

Watching "experts" claim masks and social distancing stopped flu transmission over the winter - and then their stammering deflections when you ask, why did covid cases continue going up over the normal coronavirus season if they work so well.

Such arrogance from "experts" playing God who very likely caused covid to begin with.

Every last one of them should be killed in public squares by angry mobs of citizens.

[Jimbuna]

WUHAN WHITEWASH China deleted Covid data to cover up ‘Patient Zero’ as pressure mounts over lab leak, bombshell study claims
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15367128/china-deleted-covid-data/

The truth will eventually outweigh the lies.

Any other source than the Sun or Daily Fail and it might just have a chink of credibility.

[Jimbuna]

Vaccine hesitancy has significantly dropped in the UK's Black and Asian communities, Vaccines Minister Nadhim Zahawi says.

He tells a Downing St briefing 82% of all adults in the UK have had a first vaccine dose and three in five have had both jabs.

Only a week after the programme opened to all adults on Friday, one third of 18-24-year-olds have had their first doses, he adds.

In January, the vast majority of hospital admissions were aged over 65 but now just a third are, Zahawi says.

This really does show the importance of getting the jab and, critically, getting the second dose, he says.

UK travel bosses call on the government to expand the green list and reopen international travel.

They say it is "now or never" to save what is left of the summer season - not just for holidaymakers but to protect jobs.

Meanwhile, scientists are trialling whether a drug called Ivermectin could help treat Covid symptoms.

Questions are being asked over whether Wembley should host the Euro 2020 final, amid concerns over Delta variant cases in the UK

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/6pnyy5v1/119060875-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-23jun-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/yD6VGKnF)

[Moonlight]

Any other source than the Sun or Daily Fail and it might just have a chink of credibility.
Really, where do you get your news sources from then?.

All newspapers have political biases. In fact, the same is true of “news” websites, magazines and TV programs/stations.
Three mega-corporations control nearly all of the flow of internet search results in America (i.e., Google, Verizon [with Yahoo/AOL] and Microsoft).
A handful of social media corporations (e.g., Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc.) control most of the social media content on the internet and mobile phone apps.

So would you rather believe them than The Sun newspaper?.

[Buddahaid]

Watching "experts" claim masks and social distancing stopped flu transmission over the winter - and then their stammering deflections when you ask, why did covid cases continue going up over the normal coronavirus season if they work so well.

Such arrogance from "experts" playing God who very likely caused covid to begin with.

Every last one of them should be killed in public squares by angry mobs of citizens.


Does every solution for you involve violence?

[3catcircus]

Does every solution for you involve violence?

By any means necessary.

[Jimbuna]

Really, where do you get your news sources from then?.



So would you rather believe them than The Sun newspaper?.

I much prefer information presented by someone who is suitably qualified. (see post below)

The BBC have gone back over in the betting in recent times but imho are still less bias than most.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wd5Ig8IDPI

[Catfish]

Really, where do you get your news sources from then?.
So would you rather believe them than The Sun newspaper?.
Are you KIDDING ME?

[Jimbuna]

Are you KIDDING ME?

No Kai, I believe he is being serious.

[mapuc]

In the end, it's up to our own standpoint what we consider trustworthy in this Corona crisis.

Markus

[Moonlight]

Really, where do you get your news sources from then?. So would you rather believe them than The Sun newspaper?.

I much prefer information presented by someone who is suitably qualified. (see post below)

The BBC have gone back over in the betting in recent times but imho are still less bias than most.

Are you KIDDING ME?

My, my, you two are crowing from your lofty perch today, the TV Media, the Newspapers, The Lancet, The WHO and the BBC have all lost some credibility at some point in time, so stop avoiding the question and Name any media sources apart from the biased BBC where you get your information from which cannot be faulted.
Catfish can join in as well, I'd like to be just as well informed as you two are and could do with a good read from a reputable source, and no, a doctor off of Youtube just doesn't cut it as an investigative journalist as he's using articles from one or more of the above.

[Buddahaid]

Then do your own research of medical papers and let us know.

[Moonlight]

I'm not the one crowing from a high perch, those two have questioned the veracity of certain newspapers so it's up to them and them alone to provide some reputable news sources.
I couldn't give two hoots if they do or not, it's their choice, as far as I'm concerned this conversation should never have been started in the first place so I'll leave it at that. :yep:

[Catfish]

No, you are crowing that some generally respected media were not credible, while quoting yellow press garbage and taking this for gospel.
"The Sun" is not credible. Nor is Fox News, or Breitbart, or the Bildzeitung. But i guarantee if you listen long enough to them you might end wearing a buffalo head and quoting qanon conspiracy theories.
:Kaleun_Wink:

[mapuc]

Back to this Wuhan virus.

EU has said the times between first and second shot shall be shorten from todays 8 weeks down to 3 weeks this is due to the new Delta variant.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Then do your own research of medical papers and let us know.

You only need look at the link below to get a feel of how 'popular' the Sun is in some parts of the UK

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/why-the-sun-is-hated-by-liverpool-fans-banned-in-many-places/2hrhnj5tch2r1ae7tllvac6fb

[Jimbuna]

UK government publishes an update to its green list for countries where returning travellers will not need to quarantine.

The list includes Spain's Balearic islands, Barbados, Bermuda, Madeira and Malta.

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps confirms government looking at easing restrictions for fully vaccinated UK travellers.

Ministers will examine whether to exempt fully-vaccinated travellers from amber countries from quarantine.

Germany's chancellor suggests all EU countries should make British travellers quarantine on arrival to slow the spread of the Delta variant.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Environment Secretary George Eustice both say they intend to stop wearing masks as soon as allowed to.

Lockdown last year did not bring a baby boom in England and Wales, data from the Office for National Statistics suggests.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/WbJv7vZP/119080428-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-24jun-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/561TxDpP)

[Jimbuna]

The first phase of the Government's Events Research Programme saw 28 cases of Covid-19 recorded from nine events.

The events have been held to explore the impact of large-scale events on Covid-19 transmission.

The Brit Awards, which featured an audience of 3,532, recorded no cases.

Eight positive Covid-19 cases were recorded among the 30,000 people who attended three Wembley football matches.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock admits breaking social distance guidance after the Sun published photos of him kissing an aide.

The prime minister's spokesman says Boris Johnson has accepted Mr Hancock's apology and considers matter closed.

A total of 111,157 confirmed and probable cases of the Covid-19 Delta variant have now been identified in the UK

This weekend, anyone 18 or over in England who has not yet had their first vaccination is encouraged to visit one of hundreds of walk-in sites.

Travel bosses say changes to the green list are not enough but the transport secretary says it's a “maximum transparency approach”

Sydney's central and eastern suburbs, including Bondi Beach, will be locked down after a jump in Covid cases.

[mapuc]

Heard about something with this Delta variant should have mutated once again-Some travellers who came from Nepal was infected with this new Delta variant.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Portugal has tightened Covid restrictions in the capital Lisbon and in Albufeira in the Algarve because of high rates of infection. The two areas join the fishing port of Sesimbra in having weekend closures from 15:30 today for cafes, restaurants and non-essential shopping. A weekend travel ban comes into force in Lisbon today for the second weekend running in an attempt to halt the spread of the Delta variant, with only essential trips allowed or proof of vaccination or negative test.

In Russia, the eastern Siberia republic of Buryatia has become the first region to go back into lockdown as Covid cases surge. From Sunday until 11 July only essential shops will be open and people will have to work from home. The Covid death rate in Russia has surged by more than 20% in the past week, say officials, and over 20,000 new cases were reported yesterday.

French health officials say the number of Covid patients treated in intensive care has fallen below 1,500 for the first time since the start of last October. But there are concerns that the vaccination campaign for first doses is beginning to slow down. Even though 700,000 doses are being administered daily, only about 200,000 of those are first vaccinations.

Top German health official Lothar Wieler has added his voice to criticism of Euro 2020 knockout games taking place at Wembley. “From an infection point of view, this isn’t a good idea,” says the head of the RKI public health institute. Germany play England in London on Tuesday, but Wieler says travel for fans across Europe while the Delta variant is prevalent doesn’t make sense.

Belgian Prime Minister Alexander De Croo has appealed to supporters going to Seville in Spain to see the national team play Portugal on Sunday to take care. “It’s still a red zone and anyone travelling there must respect the rules,” he says.

Poland is planning a national lottery for people who’ve been vaccinated, to encourage people to get immunised. Officials say there’ll be prizes of up to a million zloty (£190,000; €220,000).

https://i.postimg.cc/YCYDMTb6/d96b18b4-c545-4ba9-98b3-4a442ee825b9.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j7am9kjMrk

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JETqBIl4mOo

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ype5IKRSvA0

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osalpiUg6Eo

[Jimbuna]

The priority is to get the country back to normal as soon as possible, Sajid Javid says, as he takes on the job of health secretary.

Javid says he has "a lot of work to do" as he starts work on tackling the coronavirus pandemic.

The former chancellor replaces Matt Hancock who resigned after breaching coronavirus social distancing guidelines.

The Sun newspaper showed pictures of him kissing colleague Gina Coladangelo.

In his exit statement, Hancock said: "We owe it to people who have sacrificed so much in this pandemic to be honest when we have let them down."

The PM did not sack him but said he was "sorry" to receive his colleague's resignation.

The Department of Health will look into how the footage from Matt Hancock's office leaked, Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis says.

The Australian state of New South Wales reports 30 new Covid cases on the second day of Greater Sydney's two-week lockdown.

[3catcircus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ype5IKRSvA0

It begs the question - why were authorities in many western nations preventing it's use over the past year when they *knew* it could help serious covid cases?

Perhaps because of it's price tag?

[Jimbuna]

It begs the question - why were authorities in many western nations preventing it's use over the past year when they *knew* it could help serious covid cases?

Perhaps because of it's price tag?

God only knows and I doubt you'd find any politician willing to give a truthful answer.

The UK government have promised a full public enquiry for next year so maybe an answer or two will be forthcoming then.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdnXCmp3cHk

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/9QqBK0BJ/2f7ac19e-d487-4e26-b07f-3da4d9eeb4a1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

New Health Secretary Sajid Javid says he wants coronavirus restrictions lifted as soon as possible and irreversibly.

Javid is to update MPs later on plans for lifting the last restrictions in England, scheduled for 19 July.

The reopening was pushed back from 21 June amid rising cases of the Delta variant - but a progress review is taking place.

Labour has called for an probe into ministers' use of private email addresses following claims made after Matt Hancock's resignation.

The Federation of Small Businesses urges the government to give more support in light of delays to the planned lifting of rules.

Sydney's Delta variant outbreak grows to 128 cases, with other infections recorded in the Northern Territory, Queensland and Western Australia.

AstraZeneca and Oxford University begin trials of a modified vaccine to act against the Beta variant, first identified in South Africa.

The UK defence secretary and several senior military officers are self-isolating after the head of the armed forces tested positive.

Wimbledon returns after last year's cancellation - initially with a 50% capacity crowd as one of the events taking part in a government pilot.

Thousands of German tourists in Portugal are in a rush to get home before midnight tonight after Germany said it is imposing new quarantine restrictions on people returning from the country because of rising cases of the Delta variant.

Mask-wearing across Italy is no longer compulsory outdoors as every region in the country enters the "white zone".

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL9b8ClNpdY

[Jimbuna]

Health Secretary Sajid Javid has updated MPs on the planned ending of England's lockdown.

He confirms that the final stage in ending the lockdown remains 19 July.

Javid says: "My task is to help return the economic and cultural life of this country"

He says that by 19 July two thirds of adults will have had both coronavirus jabs.

He said that while cases were rising, the number of deaths "remains mercifully low"

The UK has recorded 116,287 cases in the past seven days - a 70% increase on the previous week's total.

"For me 19 July is not only the end of the line but the start of an exciting new journey for our country," Javid tells MPs

Labour has called for a probe into ministers' use of private email addresses following claims made after Matt Hancock's resignation.

The former health secretary will not take the severance payment he would normally be entitled to as a departing cabinet minister.

Sydney's Delta variant outbreak grows to 128 cases, with other infections recorded in the Northern Territory, Queensland and Western Australia.

AstraZeneca and Oxford University begin trials of a modified vaccine to act against the Beta variant, first identified in South Africa.

[Jimbuna]

Two nude sunbathers in Australia have been fined for breaching Covid rules after they got spooked by a deer and had to be rescued from bushland.

The men, who were sunbathing on a beach south of Sydney, were found after they called for assistance.

They were fined A$1,000 (US$750; £547) for breaching a public health order banning those in greater Sydney from travelling outside the area.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57634166

"It's difficult to legislate against idiots," NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said at a press conference on Monday when speaking about the incident. :haha:

[d@rk51d3]

"It's difficult to legislate against idiots," NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said at a press conference on Monday when speaking about the incident. :haha:


Whole story sounds dodgy.
More like a case of:

https://youtu.be/REpNTi-9oRQ

[August]

Notice that the nude sunbathers still managed to keep their cell phones so they could call for help.

Big scary deer comes at you while you're illegally tanning your pale covid lockdown patootie and what do you go for? Your skivvies or your cell phone? No time to think, choose now! Here it comes! :D

[Skybird]

Cause of Long Covid possibly found. Bloodcells get altered and change physical genotype. Study's conclusions published by scientists of the Max-Planck Institute in Erlangen.

https://www.cell.com/biophysj/fulltext/S0006-3495(21)00454-9

[Skybird]

NYT gets quoted with having reported (behind paywall) that a Pfizer study found that vaccines by Biontech-Pfizer and Moderna may offer protection "for years".

However, older adults, people with weak immune systems, and those taking drugs that suppress immunity may need booster vaccinations. People who survived Covid-19 and were later vaccinated may not need it at all, the study found.

[Skybird]

FOCUS writes:


A development is currently emerging in Great Britain which, with a delay of a few months, will probably also show itself in Germany. An increasing proportion of those who died of Covid-19 had been vaccinated twice. What at first glance seems to indicate a problem with the vaccinations is probably a statistical effect that is primarily related to two well-known factors: the incomplete protection provided by the vaccinations on the one hand and the increasing vaccination rates on the other. -

It was already clear after the clinical studies that the vaccinations did not fully protect against infection. The Biontech vaccine Comirnaty, for example, reduced the number of infections by 95 percent compared to the control group. That's good, but not perfect. At the same time, the vaccination completely prevented serious disease and deaths. In fact, this is only partially true, because the studies only incompletely recorded the most vulnerable groups. -

People with a weakened immune system such as cancer patients or organ transplants, like the elderly, generally have an increased risk of developing Covid-19 and dying. And there are many indications that the vaccinations in these groups do not protect against serious illness and death as completely as the figures in the studies on healthy people had shown. Fully vaccinated persons also die in the risk groups, albeit less than without vaccination. The delta variant may also increase this proportion. -
In contrast, the likelihood that young people with a healthy immune system will die from a Sars-CoV-2 infection is very low anyway. However, the risk rises dramatically in the risk groups, which are not for nothing called risk groups: The mortality in relation to all infections - if you take the figures from this review - in 25-year-olds in the range of a fraction of a per mille, in 85-year-olds it is 15 Percent. -

The exact numbers are controversial, the basic facts are not: the risk increases roughly exponentially with age. As a result, vaccination campaigns in many countries first focused on those most vulnerable groups. -

Because of the huge differences in mortality between young, healthy people and the risk groups, the imperfect protection provided by vaccinations has a major impact. If vaccination were to reduce mortality in 85-year-olds by a hypothetical 95 percent, instead of 100 percent as in the studies, they still have a more than 50-fold higher risk of death than unvaccinated 25-year-olds with the above figures. At the same time, the vaccination also gives them less protection from infection than one would expect based on the study data on healthy people. -

This leads to the seemingly paradoxical result: the further the vaccination campaign advances, the higher the potential percentage of those who have been completely vaccinated in the corona deaths. Most of the people at increased risk are already vaccinated, but will become infected to a certain extent and some will also die from it. -

The remaining unvaccinated people, on the other hand, are predominantly relatively young with a correspondingly low risk of death. Even if the unvaccinated make up the majority of the infected, their contribution to the deaths remains comparatively limited - and it continues to decrease the more these population groups are also vaccinated. -

This only appears paradoxical because it is easy to confuse two very different things. On the one hand, the probability that a person who died of Covid-19 is double vaccinated, on the other hand, the reverse is the case that a person who has been vaccinated twice dies of Covid-19. Both sound similar, but are independent of each other. -

Especially when the vaccinations provide very good protection in all age groups - as there are currently many indications - the proportion of those who have been vaccinated among those who have died can increase significantly. However, the key indicator of the protection that vaccinations offer is whether fewer people get sick and die among those vaccinated.

[Moonlight]

DISASTER ZONE Crumbling sewers, no PPE, & filthy cages – Inside ‘chaotic & crowded’ Wuhan labs which may have unleashed Covid
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15232215/wuhan-labs-leak-covid-chaotic-crowded/

[Jimbuna]

Notice that the nude sunbathers still managed to keep their cell phones so they could call for help.

Big scary deer comes at you while you're illegally tanning your pale covid lockdown patootie and what do you go for? Your skivvies or your cell phone? No time to think, choose now! Here it comes! :D

A prime example being:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxzSuvftmu4

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udix34rrSio

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXH3Vr2cXPc

[Jimbuna]

German travellers returning from Portugal are now having to quarantine for 14 days because of the spread of Covid in recent weeks. A number of holidaymakers booked early flights home to avoid the new restriction, which also applies to travellers from Russia. Germany has recorded another 404 cases in the past 24 hours and the seven-day incidence has fallen to 5.4 cases per 100,000 people.

The Delta variant which originated in India is now the most prevalent variant in Portugal and authorities there have now introduced a 14-day quarantine for UK travellers who don't have proof of two vaccinations.

A big outbreak sourced to Spanish end-of-year school trips to Majorca has now led to more than 1,000 Covid cases. Dozens of young people are now being kept in isolation under police guard at the Hotel Palma Bellver which has been dubbed the “Covid hotel”. Spain’s regions have begun speeding up vaccination of people in their 30s in a bid to halt the spread of the Delta variant, and some of the Balearic islands including Ibiza have begun immunising 16-29 year-olds.

As new cases across Russia climb above 21,000 a day, Moscow and St Petersburg recorded their highest Covid deaths and hospital admissions in 24 hours yesterday. Moscow saw 124 deaths and almost 17,000 hospital admissions while St Petersburg saw 110 more deaths.

A French study on 90 schoolchildren aged seven to nine has found that lockdown had a significant decline on their health and cognitive abilities. Their body mass index increased and physical fitness fell while cognitive abilities dropped by as much as 40%.

[Skybird]

The vaccination campaign in Germany started slow, it was a dead start, almost. Meanwhile, it has won in pace significantly, and things have dramatically improved. Since two days, I learned from my doc, even in my federal state I could have gotten a date now. Last week I still was unable to sign in at the state's centres. Here is now the talk of to shutting down the centre in my hometown end of August or early September, and already in July reduce the number of opening days(the past 5 months it was operating all seven days a week, though exclusively with prioritizing)

Der Tagesspiegel writes:

Effectiveness of the vaccines against Delta at a glance: -

Astrazeneca: 60 percent effectiveness with full immunization, less to no effectiveness with just one vaccination -

Biontech / Pfizer: Two weeks after the second dose up to 88 percent effective against severe courses after a delta infection, with only one vaccination the protection is significantly lower -

Moderna: According to the first study results, an effectiveness of 88 percent can be assumed after the second vaccination -

Johnson & Johnson: effectiveness of about 65 percent against the original coronavirus, against Delta less, studies are ongoing -

The key, however, lies in the completeness of the immunization: Anyone who has only received a single dose of Astrazeneca, Biontech or Moderna carries a higher risk of becoming infected with the Delta variant and becoming ill. -

Against this background, there are considerations to shorten the interval between the first and second vaccination. Just a few months ago this period was exhausted as much as possible in order to be able to vaccinate many people with the vaccine doses that were still relatively few at the time.


Der Spiegel writes:

The vaccination campaign got off to a slow start in Germany. Again and again there were allegations to the Federal Ministry of Health: They had not ordered enough vaccine. The vaccination campaign is going far too slowly. The delivery forecasts could not be met and the vaccination infrastructure was not well thought out, it was often said. -

The USA, Israel and Great Britain were always used as positive examples, where the number of first vaccinations in the first few months of the year was far higher than that in Germany. But now the Federal Republic is catching up. On Wednesday, the percentage of first vaccinations based on the total population in Germany was for the first time higher than that of Americans. -

In Germany, 54.08 percent of people have now been vaccinated against the coronavirus at least once. -

In the US it is 53.80 percent. -

The numbers are only partially comparable. In absolute numbers, the USA has vaccinated many more people than Germany, because around 328 million people live there - in Germany only around 83 million. Nevertheless, the percentage of people vaccinated in the total population is important for achieving so-called herd immunity, i.e. the percentage of people fully vaccinated that is needed to stop the pandemic. Experts estimate it at around 70 to 80 percent. -

Depending on the vaccine, two vaccinations are required for complete protection against the coronavirus. Even against the more aggressive Delta variant, the vaccines only help after the second vaccination dose. Only the vector vaccine from Johnson & Johnson is already effective after a single administration. -

In order to achieve herd immunity, the number of completely vaccinated people is relevant. Since the USA have largely resorted to the vaccines of the US corporation Johnson & Johnson, Around 47 percent of Americans are already considered fully vaccinated. -

In Germany it is only 36 percent. -

In six to twelve weeks at the latest, the second vaccinations are due in Germany, then the quota of fully vaccinated people should be significantly higher than in the USA, where the willingness to vaccinate is already clearly leveling off.
----------------------
I'm in for my second shot August 3rd, and two weeks later should have reached full immunization effect. Then I can start slaying Delta left and right of my way! :arrgh!:

[moose1am]

But follow all that sciency-science that "experts" have been pushing when they "oh, no, have no conflict of interest" in pushing things that fundamentally were political rather than based on actual scientific method.

Who knew that an immune system would become less capable of responding as a result of lockdowns?!?! Other than *anyone* with a solid understanding of the fact that stress and loneliness impacts the Immune system. But hey, keep on listening to Fauxi and Daszak... No conflict of interest from them, nosirree...

I'd rather listen and heed what Dr. Anthony Fauci says that what that Dr. Atlas said. I prefer to listen to an infectious disease expert has to say that some eye doctor.


How many Americans died of stress in 2020 as compared to the 600,000 Americans who died from SARS CoV2 virus? There is no comparison. So stop with the stress bs. The problem is the virus and the fact that some people who actually feared the virus pretended that they didn't for political reasons.
And that is just for one years time. More Americans died of Covid in one year that all those that died in WWI, WWII, Korea and the Vietnam war.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vui8VATr30U

[Jimbuna]

The Balearic Islands are among the destinations added to the UK's travel green list today - but some places on the list have their own rules for arrivals.

The government hopes to lift school restrictions and bubbles as part of step 4 of exiting lockdown on 19 July, the education secretary says.

Gavin Williamson says he wants restrictions for children in England to end alongside wider restrictions in society.

The PM says the "best response" to the grief suffered by families is to "get on with a new health secretary" and continue the vaccine rollout.

He also says he hopes the vaccination programme will enable people to start flying abroad again.

New research finds life expectancy in the North West declined more than the rest of England during 2020

The study says Greater Manchester's Covid death rate has been 25% higher than elsewhere in England during the pandemic.

As England head for the quarter finals of Euro 2020, nearly 2,000 Covid cases in Scotland are linked to people watching matches.

Half of Australia is now in lockdown amid a surge in Delta virus variant cases.

North Korean state media reports that Kim Jong-un has berated officials over lapses amid a "great crisis" related to Covid.

[Jimbuna]

Latest around Europe

France takes its fourth big step in lifting major Covid restrictions this morning, allowing full access to cafes, restaurants, theme parks and cinemas - with big gatherings at concerts and festivals. Any big event with more than 1,000 people requires a Covid pass that shows proof vaccination or recent test. However, the spread of the Delta variant has caused concerns, so masks still have to be worn when walking around restaurants or attending a festival - and standing at bars is not yet allowed.

Russia recorded its highest 24-hour Covid death toll yesterday with 652 fatalities. Health officials say 151,000 people are being treated in hospital and the Kremlin says the target of vaccinating 60% of Russians by autumn will not be met. Health chief Anna Popova says a more dangerous variant called Delta Plus has been detected in Russia, and she has called for mass events to be banned.

Ireland’s hospitality industry will meet ministers today after the government decided to postpone the resumption of indoor dining and drinking. Taoiseach (prime minister) Micheál Martin said he was advised by health officials in stark terms not to reopen as planned next Monday because of the spread of the Delta variant.

Greenland has had 50 Covid cases in total and currently has just one person being treated in hospital. So the government has decided that restrictions, especially on foreign travel, will be lifted tomorrow. The capital Nuuk had a three-day lockdown at the end of last month.

The head of Austria’s vaccine rollout has warned that compulsory wearing of masks shouldn’t yet come to an end. Katharina Reich supports a widespread lifting on Covid restrictions tomorrow but says masks should still be worn in shops and on public transport.

More than half of Germans have been vaccinated at least once and over a third have had both jabs, according to the RKI health institute. Infection numbers have fallen in Germany to around 800 a day.

[Rockstar]

Latest from the United States

President Joe Biden plans a 1,000 person Independence Day celebration on the White House lawn with essential workers and military families, and Washington's National Mall will be open to spectators to watch an evening fireworks display over the Washington Monument.

Seems major concerns over the dreaded Delta variant is just in states with low vaccine rates.

I’m back to work without a mask as is everyone else I know. My thoughts about the 4th variant of concern a.k.a. Delta is the same as the already long forgotten first three.

[Skybird]

JAMA: Covid-19-related death numbers for Italy, USA probably underestimated. And significantly so.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2767980

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2768649?guestAccessKey=a0f9ad8c-f91f-45b4-a13b-6bc8eec2fcbc&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=072020

[August]

Latest from the United States

President Joe Biden plans a 1,000 person Independence Day celebration on the White House lawn with essential workers and military families, and Washington's National Mall will be open to spectators to watch an evening fireworks display over the Washington Monument.

Seems major concerns over the dreaded Delta variant is just in states with low vaccine rates.

I’m back to work without a mask as is everyone else I know. My thoughts about the 4th variant of concern a.k.a. Delta is the same as the already long forgotten first three.




People wearing masks have already become a rarity in Democrat controlled Taxachusetts.

[3catcircus]

JAMA: Covid-19-related death numbers for Italy, USA probably underestimated. And significantly so.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2767980

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2768649?guestAccessKey=a0f9ad8c-f91f-45b4-a13b-6bc8eec2fcbc&utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=072020

There will *never* be an accurate accounting. Multiple reporting methods, multiple quality control issues, multiple political interferences.

[em2nought]

I continue to wear my mask to hide my shame over having just stood by and done nothing after an election was brazenly stolen. :03:

[Mr Quatro]

When there are just two sides usually one side is right and one side is wrong.

Wear mask/Don't wear mask

This one seems a bit odd to me :yep:

Perhaps just people with tin foil hats should wear mask, but the people without mask are more at risk to the new strain going around, except for those that have take both shots.

I for one hate wearing a mask, but feel funny watching people going in and out of the store today so I put mine on.

Will this thing ever be over?

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3lx6Scwfhg

[Jimbuna]

The WHO is warning of a new Covid wave in Europe, as a 10-week decline in new cases ends.

The official UK list of Covid symptoms should be expanded as the existing one could be missing many cases, experts say.

Classic Covid symptoms, the NHS says, are a high temperature, a new continuous cough and/or a loss or change to your sense of smell or taste.

But the most commonly reported symptoms now are cough, headache and fatigue, an ONS survey finds.

Employers will have to shoulder more costs of furlough as the government starts to wind down its job support scheme.

The NHS has been given the green light to start planning a Covid vaccine booster programme in the UK

Covid is common in pet cats and dogs whose owners have the disease, research suggests.

A man has apologised over footage which appears to show England's chief medical officer being accosted in a park. (Too late apparently. He has been sacked from his job as an estate agent).

[Rockstar]

United States update.

The state of Maryland lifted its self imposed COVID state of emergency today.

Went to a restaurant and watched world go by as I drank my coffee. Now I'm at the boat docks shootin'in the breeze with some of the old timers at the 'liars bench' Not one mention of COVID, no masks.

I do see a small handfull of younger tourists wearing masks as they board the boats.

[Reece]

A man has apologised over footage which appears to show England's chief medical officer being accosted in a park. (Too late apparently. He has been sacked from his job as an estate agent).

https://media4.giphy.com/media/PyVBGgVHrFYs/giphy.gif

[3catcircus]

The WHO is warning of a new Covid wave in Europe, as a 10-week decline in new cases ends.

The official UK list of Covid symptoms should be expanded as the existing one could be missing many cases, experts say.

Classic Covid symptoms, the NHS says, are a high temperature, a new continuous cough and/or a loss or change to your sense of smell or taste.

But the most commonly reported symptoms now are cough, headache and fatigue, an ONS survey finds.

Employers will have to shoulder more costs of furlough as the government starts to wind down its job support scheme.

The NHS has been given the green light to start planning a Covid vaccine booster programme in the UK

Covid is common in pet cats and dogs whose owners have the disease, research suggests.

A man has apologised over footage which appears to show England's chief medical officer being accosted in a park. (Too late apparently. He has been sacked from his job as an estate agent).

Enjoy your Orwellian nightmare. Until UK citizens say enough is enough, it'll continue indefinitely.

Cough, headache, fatigue. Sounds like the bad cold anyone with any critical thinking skills knew COVID was going to mutate into.

How many of the Indian variant cases have resulted in ICU admittance or death?

[Onkel Neal]

When there are just two sides usually one side is right and one side is wrong.

Wear mask/Don't wear mask

This one seems a bit odd to me :yep:

Perhaps just people with tin foil hats should wear mask, but the people without mask are more at risk to the new strain going around, except for those that have take both shots.

I for one hate wearing a mask, but feel funny watching people going in and out of the store today so I put mine on.

Will this thing ever be over?

It's over in my area. Few people are wearing masks here. I will put one on if the other people I am around are wearing one, out of courtesy.

Of course, Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated (https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187), which is how it should be, so we the vaccinated are at very low risk. I do not have a great concern for unvaccinated people who don't wear masks, they made their choice.

[Mr Quatro]

American's can now travel to France and Spain, but not Canada :hmmm:

https://news.yahoo.com/why-cant-americans-canada-185747710.html

Americans can now vacation in France, where the one-dose vaccination rate is 49%, according to the nonprofit Our World in Data; they can also go to Spain, where the rate is 51%, and Greece, 45%. But, with very limited exceptions, they still cannot travel to Canada, which, according to one source — the University of Oxford — is leading all countries globally in single-dose vaccination rates.

[Rockstar]

When there are just two sides usually one side is right and one side is wrong.

It was always about reducing the impact on ICU’s. No impact. These days I see masks as virtue signaling or a political statement more than anything else. Hell, I wore a mask had my hand sanitizer and reduced contact and still got COVID.

Will this thing ever be over?

Right after C2014 UN271 impacts earth. No time like the present to start getting on with life again because it might just end tomorrow.

[Skybird]

American's can now travel to France and Spain, but not Canada :hmmm:

https://news.yahoo.com/why-cant-americans-canada-185747710.html
While Europeans cannot go to the US.

[Skybird]

I do not wear mask in the open as long as people do not flock together in denser crowds (pedestrians zone in town Saturday afternoon...), but I use one in shops and supermarkets. Its also still mandatory over here inside such enclosed spaces.

In the open, I base on simple reason. Where people get together in tighter flocks that I cannot avoid, I wear one. Where the traffic density is low or moderate, easy to avoid, I don't anymore.


Busses, trains and cinemas and the likes I still would avoid.

[Jimbuna]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/PyVBGgVHrFYs/giphy.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg1Qr1bu5LI

Estate agent who grabbed Chris Whitty for ‘despicable’ selfie sacked
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/professor-chris-whitty-park-video-lewis-hughes-johnathan-chew-estate-agent-b943557.html

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/FKhj9tdL/119174135-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-01jul-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/WdfDnH7N)

[Reece]

Glad they sacked the slimo Jim!! :yep:

[Catfish]

Glad they sacked the slimo Jim!! :yep:
On one hand yes, on a second thought, overblown. The two were admittedly dumb, and the filmer paid the price. But they did not try to wrestle or attack him as it was portrayed elsewhere in the yellow press.
Completely useless is Boris Johnson's comment, i take it he did more "despiccable" things as a student, and later :03:

[Reece]

Hmmm. :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Glad they sacked the slimo Jim!! :yep:

Not only did he lose his job but he is now being prosecuted for common assault.

Can't say I have any sympathy.

Man charged with common assault after Chris Whitty incident.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57695301

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-BRuiSV-o8

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGllOW3zo1k

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/QtLVw9PX/119188063-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-02jul-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/d7BqT1wX)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnLuJ-qTZvk

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beFQ_fpbaPo

[Mr Quatro]

Just received this email:

WARNING: Delta is MUCH more infective: You can catch Delta passing someone in a hallway for a few seconds. This is BAD news. Time to wear N95/N99/N100 masks (and maybe goggles).

https://coronavirus.quora.com/

[Skybird]

Got word on Friday that I could get my second jab five days earlier than planned. :) I did not ask questions. Will be done before August.

First a snail, then a gepard.

[3catcircus]

Just received this email:

WARNING: Delta is MUCH more infective: You can catch Delta passing someone in a hallway for a few seconds. This is BAD news. Time to wear N95/N99/N100 masks (and maybe goggles).

https://coronavirus.quora.com/

You trust Quora as a reliable source?

EDIT:

I took a look at that Quora link. It's a wretched hive of misinformation wrapped in hypochondria...

How many Brits are hospitalized day-over-day in the last 2 weeks. It's not 4 digits each day... No sources are reporting the rates of hospitalization as a fraction of the total... JimBuna's latest shows 71 out of 27125 as the best analog of the actuals... A quarter of 1% - with the symptoms being those of a bad cold for the majority of those infected by the Indian strain.

Better to read this:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-war-on-reality-gutentag

[Catfish]

Just received this email:

WARNING: Delta is MUCH more infective: You can catch Delta passing someone in a hallway for a few seconds. This is BAD news. Time to wear N95/N99/N100 masks (and maybe goggles).

https://coronavirus.quora.com/
Time to change again :hmmm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asouPYvrUtY

Seriously, this is bad news.. but is it true? Is the delta variant so much smaller than the inital virus ?

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBwi_gme-gA

[Jimbuna]

Boris Johnson is preparing to set out details of the final step of England's roadmap out of lockdown.

He is expected to announce at a news conference at 17:00 BST that England is on track to end a large number of restrictions.

Health Secretary Sajid Javid will address the Commons to update MPs at the same time.

The PM says people must exercise "judgement" as we learn to live with coronavirus.

The final stage of the roadmap was delayed last month to no earlier than 19 July.

Unions criticise the plan to make face coverings voluntary rather than compulsory on public transport and in shops.

The Scottish government says it may retain some basic measures including masks at its next review in August.

The Duchess of Cambridge is self-isolating after coming into contact with someone who later tested positive.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W8tWkT2BC0

[Skybird]

Data from Israel and for Israel show that the Biontech vaccine after the second jab has still reduced protection against catching the infeciton of around 64%, however, the second jab protects against serious causes and hospitalizations with a probability of 93% - and that is what the vaccination has alwas been about in the first. You can still get ifnected - but you do not get brought down by it.

Without the seocnd jab, the protection is just small.

Earlier The Lancet posted a study showing that two jabs by Biontech protect against the Indian Delta variation with a probability of 88% and protect against serious causes and hospitalization with a probability of 96%.

Meanwhile, a new variant, named Lambda, causes concern at the WHO. It could be the next thing after Delta. It spread sin Latin America and is responsibole for a recent speedy outbreak in a Spanish region where Lambda is said to cause 80% of infections.

For Germany, the data models based on the Lancet and Israeli data mean that an effective herd immunty probably could not be reached with just 60-70% of the population being vaccinated, but that it needs to be 80% minimum. The RKI (the German CDC) even demands a minimum of 85%).

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W8tWkT2BC0


How comes I am not surprised? :)



Heck, even my dentist asks for Vit-D levels and offers to check them.



No, industry and politics do not want you to know this. Like they do nto want you to know about Iodine, salt, Omega-3 vs. Omega-6, Q10, zinc, selenium... You being ill is more profitable for them than being healthy.



Listen to what your doctor tells you - butNEVER BLINDLY TRUST ANYTHING HE TELLS YOU. Educate yourself, recheck what he says, see how it fits into the bigger picture. He must not even have bad profit-greedy intentions, but simply may not have had the time to get additional knowledge injections into his brain since he studied. Becasue this is clear: at university, students of medicine do not hear much about these things, the industry is a heavy co-author of the curriculae. Any doctor may just be human. :03:



Never trust blindly. Check.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLwn3CML0DQ

[Jimbuna]

The second idiot has now been charged with Common Assault.

A second man has been charged with common assault after England's chief medical officer Prof Chris Whitty was accosted in a London park.

Jonathan Chew, 24, from Chelmsford, Essex, was charged on Monday over the incident, which took place in St James's Park on 27 June.

Officers spoke to the uninjured victim and checked his welfare, a Met Police spokesman said.

They then reviewed video footage that emerged on social media.

Mr Chew was also charged with obstructing police and appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Tuesday afternoon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57732654

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/DwBVqsrS/119284206-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-06jul-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/tsZmbsmb)

[3catcircus]

The second idiot has now been charged with Common Assault.

I dunno. You call him an idiot. Do you trust your chief medical officer (or *any* government official) to not be a petty tyrant concerned more with holding onto power than in actually doing things that benefit you and your fellow subjects?

Seems to me that the entire world could do with more autocrats catching a beating...

[August]

The second idiot has now been charged with Common Assault.


That'll give them something to Chew on!

[Jimbuna]

I dunno. You call him an idiot. Do you trust your chief medical officer (or *any* government official) to not be a petty tyrant concerned more with holding onto power than in actually doing things that benefit you and your fellow subjects?

Seems to me that the entire world could do with more autocrats catching a beating...

No matter anyone's opinion my training taught me respect the position/uniform but not necessarily the individual and as Chief Medical Officer I would expect him to be respected.

That'll give them something to Chew on!

:haha:

[mapuc]

This is an informercial post.

A VIP person is a lot lesser contagious than ordinary people.

Markus

[3catcircus]

No matter anyone's opinion my training taught me respect the position/uniform but not necessarily the individual and as Chief Medical Officer I would expect him to be respected.



:haha:

I would agree, if the person(s) were honorable but disagreeable. Nowadays, too many incompetent hacks fake it until they are placed in high positions where they can do the most damage with the fewest repercussions into themselves.

In the US, Fauci is likely the closest equivalent and that guy is a turd who deserves nothing but misery.

[Moonlight]

What we have here is a case of double standards, if Whitty had been a normal citizen it wouldn't have even been attended to by any coppers, but he's not ordinary is he, he's a government man isn't he, and he's considered to be an untouchable asset by the powers that be.
Two idiots fooling around is not even worth a lecture on how to behave themselves on the streets of London, and something else as well, you will not see anyone else either this year or next being charged with common assault for fooling around with an ordinary citizen.

[Jimbuna]

Pearls of wisdom from Mr Whitty.

Johnson, Whitty and Vallance on when they'll still wear face masks
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-57728218

[Jimbuna]

At PMQs Keir Starmer asks Boris Johnson if he is comfortable with the health secretary's suggestion there could be 100,000 cases a day.

The PM says scientists are “absolutely clear” the link between cases and deaths has been “severed” because of the vaccination programme.

Starmer says the delay in relaxing self-isolation rules for the fully-vaccinated will mean chaos and millions having to self-isolate.

From 16 August, fully-vaccinated adults in England will not have to self-isolate if they are a close contact of a case.

Under-18s will also no longer need to self-isolate from 16 August after contact with a positive case.

Those who test positive will still have to self-isolate whether they are vaccinated or not, though.

Boris Johnson will also be questioned on his Covid strategy by MPs later.

Two of the world's biggest airlines will trial fast-track lanes at Heathrow airport for fully-vaccinated arrivals.

Sydney residents will be in lockdown for another week as Australia's largest city fights to contain a Covid outbreak.

[Catfish]

[...] In the US, Fauci is likely the closest equivalent and that guy is a turd who deserves nothing but misery.
Which is your, not even Trump's, opinion.

But isn't critical race theory the boogeyman this week? Fauci was two weeks ago. Or was that transgender athletes? The 500 shootings last weekend? Climate change fake? Hard to keep up with whom to blame.

[Skybird]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-s-delta-variant-highly-contagious-will-vaccines-work-against-n1273114


Vaccines aren't meant to prevent infection. Their strength is in preventing the infection from making people sick and landing them in the hospital.

Most breakthrough infections (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-about-5-800-breakthrough-infections-reported-fully-vaccinated-people-n1264186) among fully vaccinated people tend to be mild or to occur without symptoms. What remains unknown is whether an unsuspecting carrier can spread the virus to vulnerable people, such as the unvaccinated, children under age 12 or those with compromised immune systems.

Goodman said infected people who have been fully vaccinated probably have less virus in their system and therefore are probably less likely to transmit it to others. The time person is contagious is also probably shorter with vaccination, he said.

It's unlikely that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will reinstate recommendations to wear masks. (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/should-fully-vaccinated-people-continue-wear-masks-experts-weigh-n1272890) But because of the unknown level of transmissibility of delta among fully vaccinated people, experts said in interviews that they continue to wear masks indoors when they are around people they don't know, such as in grocery stores or movie theaters or on public transportation.

[3catcircus]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-s-delta-variant-highly-contagious-will-vaccines-work-against-n1273114

Complete garbage...

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/vpd-vac-basics.html

"Vaccines contain the same germs that cause disease. (For example, measles vaccine contains measles virus, and Hib vaccine contains Hib bacteria.) But they have been either killed or weakened to the point that they don’t make you sick. Some vaccines contain only a part of the disease germ.

A vaccine stimulates your immune system to produce antibodies, exactly like it would if you were exposed to the disease. After getting vaccinated, you develop immunity to that disease, without having to get the disease first.

This is what makes vaccines such powerful medicine. Unlike most medicines, which treat or cure diseases, vaccines prevent them."

Note that last sentence from the CDC website which very clearly states that vaccines prevent infection. So suddenly the covid vaccines *aren't* the same as other vaccines? Or they're not really vaccines at all. Which is it?

[Skybird]

^
Before the immune system can fight a germ invading the system, the invasion actually must have taken place. That invasion is what is called "infection". When nothing has happenednd and no infection took place - the immune system does nothing. And how could it and why should it...? If nothing happened...? You never get a fire alarm if there is no fire. The question for the reaction time of the fire brigade does not even rise.

An experienced fire brigade would have short reaction time. An unexperienced would have longer reaction time. Maybe too long to save the bruning building. So, its good to have an experienced one. One that knows what its doing, and how it gets done best, and quickest.

An immunity system meeting a germ for the first time, needs time to learn about, adapt to and build weapons tailored against that germ. The symptoms thus have time to build up, and the invading army can grow in size meanwhile. And sometimes its enough time to kill the organism that got infected.

There are three main groups of antibodies actually fighting the germs, the one attacks the germ directly, the other the remains of it, and the third attacks whole body cells that have been infected by the attacking germs. These are the T- and B-lymphocytes and the macrophages.

Some of these cells remain active after the war has been won and the attackign germs have been defeated and wiped out. These cells stand active guard and run patrols and serve as a living memory of the pattern of the attacking germs. If that germ shows up again, they react immediately, both ringing the alarm and carrying out first attacks, since they know the attacker and must not wonder what that foreign new thing is, and trigger a much quicker reaction by the immune system.

An infection always takes place. The question is about the reaction time of the immune system. Without immunity by former disease or vaccination, the reaction time is long. With immunity, it is short.

Now what does it mean if a vaccination is said to leave the vaccinated potentially infectous for others? It means the carrier has not sufficient numbers of attacking germs to become overwhelmed himself, since his system fights them, but he still has them in sufficiently high numbers so to spread the germs onto others. But likely he spreads them by reduced numbers, sinc ehis own system already thins the attackers out. Some vaccines are so potent that they make short process of an invading army of germs and these germs then do not live long enough in the infected body to jump from there to somebody else, or to lead to the forming of symptoms. Other vaccines are less potent, they prevent mostly that the vaccinated becomes ill himself (building symptoms), but cannot prevent the numbers being supressed so fast and effectively that the germ cannot reach other people. The Corona vaccines we talk of, seem to be like this, they tell the body how to react quickly (immune system comes to life), and this happens fast enough that numbers of germs go down quickly - but not that much and fast that there are no numbers from begining anymore. The enemy gets sloauhgtered while he lands on the beach. But a landing operation takes place. Just, that it fails. We know that the virus load on first infection with Sars-Cov 2 is one of several factors for the probability to build strong symptoms. Bringing the virus load down that an infected person can bring onto others, thus is a benefit. It means the invading army on the beach is not big enough to acchieve a breakthrough and establish a breach. It shifts chances in the defenders' favour, therefore. Maybe the battle on the beach is so quiuckly iver and so hopeless for the attacker, that you do not even notice that it happened. That is the ideal case of a vaccination. But it is not always this ideal.

Becoming infected, being infectous for others, and forming symptoms oneself that make oneself feel miserable, are three very different things. Or better, three different levels of intensity of the infection. But an infection there is ALWAYS. Getting vaccinated does not mean you eat soap and clean yourself inside and then are so sterile that no germ can enter the outer barrier of your system. The world always reaches you and reaches into you. It means you invest money into your armed forces, have better gear, weapons, training, and an intel service in tip top shape. It does not mean that peace will last forever. It means that if war finds you, you will fight better, sharper, and more successful.

Pull that head out of the sand. Tunnelvision is said to get cured from doing so in no time.

[3catcircus]

^
Before the immune system can fight a germ invading the system, the invasion actually must have taken place. That invasion is what is called "infection". When nothing has happenednd and no infection took place - the immune system does nothing. And how could it and why should it...? If nothing happened...? You never get a fire alarm if there is no fire. The question for the reaction time of the fire brigade does not even rise.

An experienced fire brigade would have short reaction time. An unexperienced would have longer reaction time. Maybe too long to save the bruning building. So, its good to have an experienced one. One that knows what its doing, and how it gets done best, and quickest.

An immunity system meeting a germ for the first time, needs time to learn about, adapt to and build weapons tailored against that germ. The symptoms thus have time to build up, and the invading army can grow in size meanwhile. And sometimes its enough time to kill the organism that got infected.

There are three main groups of antibodies actually fighting the germs, the one attacks the germ directly, the other the remains of it, and the third attacks whole body cells that have been infected by the attacking germs. These are the T- and B-lymphocytes and the macrophages.

Some of these cells remain active after the war has been won and the attackign germs have been defeated and wiped out. These cells stand active guard and run patrols and serve as a living memory of the pattern of the attacking germs. If that germ shows up again, they react immediately, both ringing the alarm and carrying out first attacks, since they know the attacker and must not wonder what that foreign new thing is, and trigger a much quicker reaction by the immune system.

An infection always takes place. The question is about the reaction time of the immune system. Without immunity by former disease or vaccination, the reaction time is long. With immunity, it is short.

Now what does it mean if a vaccination is said to leave the vaccinated potentially infectous for others? It means the carrier has not sufficient numbers of attacking germs to become overwhelmed himself, since his system fights them, but he still has them in sufficiently high numbers so to spread the germs onto others. But likely he spreads them by reduced numbers, sinc ehis own system already thins the attackers out. Some vaccines are so potent that they make short process of an invading army of germs and these germs then do not live long enough in the infected body to jump from there to somebody else, or to lead to the forming of symptoms. Other vaccines are less potent, they prevent mostly that the vaccinated becomes ill himself (building symptoms), but cannot prevent the numbers being supressed so fast and effectively that the germ cannot reach other people. The Corona vaccines we talk of, seem to be like this, they tell the body how to react quickly (immune system comes to life), and this happens fast enough that numbers of germs go down quickly - but not that much and fast that there are no numbers from begining anymore. The enemy gets sloauhgtered while he lands on the beach. But a landing operation takes place. Just, that it fails. We know that the virus load on first infection with Sars-Cov 2 is one of several factors for the probability to build strong symptoms. Bringing the virus load down that an infected person can bring onto others, thus is a benefit. It means the invading army on the beach is not big enough to acchieve a breakthrough and establish a breach. It shifts chances in the defenders' favour, therefore. Maybe the battle on the beach is so quiuckly iver and so hopeless for the attacker, that you do not even notice that it happened. That is the ideal case of a vaccination. But it is not always this ideal.

Becoming infected, being infectous for others, and forming symptoms oneself that make oneself feel miserable, are three very different things. Or better, three different levels of intensity of the infection. But an infection there is ALWAYS. Getting vaccinated does not mean you eat soap and clean yourself inside and then are so sterile that no germ can enter the outer barrier of your system. The world always reaches you and reaches into you. It means you invest money into your armed forces, have better gear, weapons, training, and an intel service in tip top shape. It does not mean that peace will last forever. It means that if war finds you, you will fight better, sharper, and more successful.

Pull that head out of the sand. Tunnelvision is said to get cured from doing so in no time.

You fail to account for the misleading reporting 8ntended to elicit a specific response from the public via use of a scientific term as vernacular. To the average person, infection = disease.

More importantly, for no other virus in the history of disease or vaccination have we ever cared about vaccinated people or those previously infected and recovered then catching the same virus again as a vector of infectivity to others. We already know that people previously infected by other coronaviruses have an immune response (even if partial) to covid. We know that someone who is asymptomatic or may have mild symptoms (regardless of due to prior infection with other strains or due to vaccines) are strongly likely to not infect others.

Lastly, between those who were vaccinated and those who were previously infected and recovered (which is 99+% of those infected, most of whom we'll never know were infected), in most places, they've effectively reached herd immunity for the most virulent original strains while the less virulent newer strains are already showing themselves to be less likely to lead to a fatal outcome, even if more infectious (which is exactly what you'd expect to see with a virus that is going to be endemic and causing cold symptoms after the initial outbreak).

[Catfish]

Complete garbage... [...]
So suddenly the covid vaccines *aren't* the same as other vaccines? Or they're not really vaccines at all. Which is it?
There are two kinds off vaccines against covid, the vector one, and the mrna vaccine. The second type does not infect but simulates the effect of an infection already providing t-cells with a building plan with information how to produce antibodies, an information that usually would only be there if you had been infected. You can read it all on the net, everywhere.
Regarding the rest you write i wonder how you come to such conclusions.

[Buddahaid]

Funny how those in the US who are getting hospitalized now are people who haven't been vaccinated. I wonder if there's a connection......

[Moonlight]

Now you mention it I think you're onto something, there was a lot of migrants from India living in England who were refusing to be vaccinated and they caught this new Delta variant, mind you, that was our governments fault for letting the infected enter the country in the first place, but it's still a strange one, maybe it'll all come out in the inquiry they're going to have.

[3catcircus]

There are two kinds off vaccines against covid, the vector one, and the mrna vaccine. The second type does not infect but simulates the effect of an infection already providing t-cells with a building plan with information how to produce antibodies, an information that usually would only be there if you had been infected. You can read it all on the net, everywhere.
Regarding the rest you write i wonder how you come to such conclusions.

I'm well aware there are multiple types of vaccinations. Both do the same thing: provide the body the ability to create spike proteins. As such, they are simulating an infection by covid to allow your immune system to generate antibodies to the spike protein so if you are infected with the real virus, your immune system will do its job since it already recognizes the spike protein as something to defend against.

My conclusions come from the fact that the messaging in that article from NBC is a confused and contradictory mess:
1. CDC isn't going to recommend masking again, but "experts" say they will continue to do so amongst strangers even though they are vaccinated.

2. Delta is super scary even though hospitalizations aren't jumping up like they did last year. And even then, we know that the vast majority (98+%) of infectees never required hospitalization from the original strains, let alone the new ones

3. Vaccines aren't preventing infection but they're all mild cases, so not a big deal.

4. Some studies say vaccines are still effective at preventing serious illness, but Israeli studies show that the new strains can evade them.

5. Even endemic cold viruses can lead to pneumonia and potential death for the immunocompromised and feeble.

6. They're doing an apples-to-oranges comparison of the Indian strain vs. original strains. They should be looking only at those who aren't vaccinated to determine IFR and CFR as compared to original strains.

So - the new variants aren't really stopped by a vaccine that is less than a year in use, they may just make symptoms less severe... The new strains are less likely to cause serious illness requiring hospitalization than the original strains - with the primary symptoms being a sore throat, headache, and runny nose.

All of this effort to try to convince people to get a vaccination that may already be ineffective against a virus that has mutated to the point that it is resulting in cold symptoms. *Exactly* like every other virus that causes colds. There is a reason why we've never bothered to try and find a universal cold virus vaccine and why the annual flu vaccine has never had greater than 60% efficacy (on average around 45% year-over-year). That reason is the same reason why this coronavirus will become like every other coronavirus that has spread sufficiently far and wide - the mutations that selectively result in viruses suited to infect as many as possible while killing as few as possible so as to accomplish their only function: replication.

That's all viruses "want" to do: find a living host to take over and replicate - while not killing days host so that they can infect others, replicating exponentially.

[mapuc]

About the discussion on our different type of vaccines.

My elderly sister is suffering from a special heart disease and each year before the flu season starts she get a shot of that years influenza vaccine.

Almost every year she gets infected by the flu, but she does not get very ill, like having high fever or pain all over the body. It's like she does not notice it(have been infected)

One year the influenza mutated and the vaccine she got became obsolete she was very sick that year.

Markus

[August]

Funny how those in the US who are getting hospitalized now are people who haven't been vaccinated. I wonder if there's a connection......




Maybe, but they are a tiny percentage, of a tiny percentage, of only about a third of the population, and nearly all of them had co-morbidities of some kind that might have landed them in the hospital anyways, so if there is a connection it's probably not the one you hope. :)

[Catfish]

In a way it will be a kind of Darwin award :hmmm:

[3catcircus]

Maybe, but they are a tiny percentage, of a tiny percentage, of only about a third of the population, and nearly all of them had co-morbidities of some kind that might have landed them in the hospital anyways, so if there is a connection it's probably not the one you hope. :)

Correlation, causality...

I think that we would have already been through this debacle in the US if we had actual leaders in government who were honest. Imagine if we had honest leaders, what each of the following could have been instead of what we actually got.

No, masks are not effective. It took an FOIA request to get a dump of Fauci's emails almost a year later from where he admits that.

No, most people will not be hospitalized or die from covid. It takes honest brokers of statistical data to have dropped through the datasets to counteract the narrative. At one point, people surveyed believed 33 million Americans died from covid...

Yes, there are risks associated with unproven vaccines. For the older people, the risk is worth it. For kids, not worth the risk.

Flatten the curve. The area under that curve (i e. number of infected) is the same. The only difference is how long you take to reach that number (i.e. lockdowns only increased the time to reach that number, prolonging everyone's misery).

Governors who actually killed the most vulnerable by sending infected people into nursing homes. All while crying for federal aid. Never mind that using vents actually increased deaths. Never mind that hospitals weren't actually overwhelmed even as news crews selectively edited footage to make it appear they were.

I'd urge anyone to read the following and then see if they still hold the same beliefs.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-war-on-reality-gutentag

[August]

In a way it will be a kind of Darwin award :hmmm:


That must please you! :up:

[Skybird]

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Good how things are put together in this article.

[3catcircus]

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Good how things are put together in this article.

This isn't a bad article. It clearly puts into perspective that hospitalizations and deaths are *miniscule* as compared to the number of infections.

The only flaw in the article is it doesn't drive into the percentage of infected, hospitalized, and dead that are vaccinated or not.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVxc_CmeYxo

[Jimbuna]

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps is setting out changes to travel quarantine rules.

The UK government says double-jabbed people won't have to self-isolate when arriving from amber countries from 19 July.

Children under the age of 18 will also not need to quarantine.

But Shapps says these travellers will still need to take Covid tests.

The move will affect people returning to England - the other UK nations will decide their own measures.

The £20 universal credit "Covid boost" is being phased out in autumn.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak says "people understand" it was introduced for a "crisis"

He also says any decision on pension increases must be fair to taxpayers and pensioners.

On Wednesday, daily UK Covid cases rose above 30,000 for first time since January.

Concern is continuing to grow over rising cases of the Delta variant in a number of European countries. In France, government spokesman Gabriel Attal says the variant now represents about 40% of new Covid-19 infections – up from 20% last week.

A French minister has also urged citizens to avoid going on holidays in Spain and Portugal because of the spread of the variant in both countries.

The Dutch government has said it will consider whether it needs to introduce new restrictions after the number of daily infections rose within a week from just over 600 to 3,688. Health minister Hugo de Jonge says most cases have been recorded in people under the age of 30. The Netherlands ended most rules, including mandatory masks and restrictions on numbers in bars and restaurants on 26 June as the infections decreased.

Children ages between 12 and 15 will be able to receive a vaccination in the Belgian region of Wallonia this month, the local health minister has said. The vaccines will not be mandatory and will require parental permission.

[Skybird]

Just in: Olympics in Japan will take place without vistors and audiences.

[3catcircus]

Just in: Olympics in Japan will take place without vistors and audiences.

Does anyone really care about the Olympics besides television advertisers, or the various government and industry officials involved in the Olympics who engaged in kickbacks and bribes?

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/sxHFNNjt/119317829-uk-card-with-vax-2doses-08jul-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/m196cVFw)

[Catfish]

"Covid-19 pandemic: 'Everything you should not do, Brazil has done'"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57733540


"Scandal-Plagued Brazil Could Soon Become The Global Leader In COVID-19 Deaths. Far-right President Jair Bolsonaro is facing allegations of corruption, official investigations and mass protests as Brazil’s death toll continues to climb."
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/brazil-covid-deaths-bolsonaro-united-states_n_60df362de4b0ad1785db64bf

Interesting to see what kind of people still rule nations in "modern" times.

[Skybird]

The vaccine manufacturers Pfizer and Biontech assume a decline in the protective effect of the joint coronavirus vaccine after six months.

"As has already become clear from the practical application data collected by the Israeli Ministry of Health, the protective effect of the vaccine against infections and symptomatic diseases decreases six months after the second vaccination."

The manufacturers state this in a joint communication. Based on the data available so far, it is likely "that a third dose will be required within six to twelve months after the full vaccination".

(Westfälische Nachrichten)

[Skybird]

Der Spiegel reports that Biontech has produced in Mainz a first charge of 20,000 doses of a specially "hardened" vaccine against Delta. Clinical trials are about to begin in August.

[Skybird]

Germany declares all of Spain a risk area again. Travelers entering Germany from Spain will need to present a negative test to avoid quarantine.


Earlier, France has advised against travels to Spain and Portugal.



https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-germany-declares-spain-a-covid-risk-area/a-58216999

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16PNx403DtM

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z4P9ZGZHk8

[Jimbuna]

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[Skybird]

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/images/ohne_publikum_ts/27408322/2-format1007.jpg
.................................................. ............." Distancing!!"

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfZT8rn2xpg

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_DDqsqhrfE