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Skybird
12-30-21, 08:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1sxDPKgJ8Y
It affected me, seeing these terrible news clip from Italy and other places around the world where you saw kilometer long caravan of military trucks with dead bodies.
Markus
Btw how many are standing in line for your safe and effective J&J vaccine?
No line for me, I had an appointment. :yep:
Rockstar
12-30-21, 12:15 PM
No line for me, I had an appointment. :yep:
Might want reconsider, My doctor doesn’t recommend it, CVS stopped administering it and the CDC recommends anything else but the J&J vaccine. I guess because of that ‘rare’ problem people encounter.
Really wish I knew what their definition of ‘rare’ really is.
Everyone here is getting up in age including me. We should all seriously considering getting vaccinated. But it should our choice based on informed decisions. Not out of fear or power hungry people mandating it for perfectly healthy and younger people, destroying lives & business in the process? Mandate nazis are idiots will always be idiots
And for once I agree with Cornpop “there is no federal solution”.
New York 2020
To be fair, that could be New York in any given year. They had 77,700 murders in the 55 years from 1965 to 2019, with an average of 1,400 murders per year. That does not include other violent crimes that may have resulted in death.
Granted, that's been on the decline. 2019 "only" saw 558 murders in NY.
Source (https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nycrime.htm)
Skybird
12-30-21, 01:07 PM
Its about how many Covid-induced deaths there have been in what ammount of time, and how crowded the hospitals and morgues were, and how many additional people suffered and died because they could not go to hospital with their issues, or had treatment delayed. Ordinary crime in NY has not bodybags being stockpiled to the ceiling in morgues day in, day out, has it.
Crime rate does not compare to it. Traffic accidents not. IN NO WAY. And there were so many cities around the globe like this.
On J&J, it simply is not as effective as the other vaccines, that simple it is. It gives a solid but inferior protection against Delta, and less so against Omicron, and in any case its protections wanes much faster than that of the mRNA vaccines. Thats why quick boostering with an mRNA is strongly recommended, and using J&J is discouraged and by authorities dismissed over here in Germany and other countries, france, iceland. Since this all is so, J&J has a very high rate - for standards of Covid 19 vaccines - of breakthrough infections. This is I think the main reason why it is not used a lot. High rate of breakthrough infections also was the reason why Iceland was the first to stop it completely, I think.
My parents got their second jab yesterday, earlier than planned. My father had a very heavy reaction and breakdown and this morning was taken to hospital. He has just been returned two hours ago. Mum said at the farewell there he started an argument with the doctor there about how bad vaccination "obviously" is. The doc was not impressed, said it is not the vaccine but the age-dependign status of his immune system, if he thinks he was bad off, then he could show im around on the COVID ICU station they have (its the Münster university hospital) , then he would see within seconds what being bad off really means and that the risks of a severe vaccination reaction is absolutely minor compared to the risk an old person faces when meeting Mr. Bug unvaccinated - THEN you are "bad off". I am tempted to go there and thank that doctor personally - since he radically confronted my father, my Dad is silent and calm like a happy lamb.
The German Paul Ehrlich institute tracked heavy reactions to vaccination as reported amongst elder people form beginning on. They said in spring for exampel that amognst the millions of jabs given, there were some 300 or 400 reports of reacitions amongst elder people (all mpopulation 1500 or so) and a few died - but only in two such cases there is doubt on that they died not from their age, but for the jab, becasue in that age group you must expect a higher natural mortality anyway. So what they say is they got reports on just two cases at that time that maybe - MAYBE - indicate that the vaccination causally led to the death of the patient. Beyond that, you need to expect less effectiveness and a higher rate of reactions to vaccinaiton the older the people are. You see that with EVERY vaccination against VERY desease.
For a short time I felt guilt today, of course, but no more. Mind soon took over from the heart, and that is good so. When Mr. Bug meets my father, my father has tremedously raised chances to survive that meeting now. Having one bad day is not too high a price for this dramatic gain, and my father is 77, had at least one - minor - stroke, probably already more before that just were not recognised, and until earlier this years was a diabetic and hypertonic.
My Mum got two free rides, no reactions whatever, she was better off than I were after my first two. She felt nothing!
Might want reconsider, My doctor doesn’t recommend it, CVS stopped administering it and the CDC recommends anything else but the J&J vaccine. I guess because of that ‘rare’ problem people encounter.
Too late, I got my J&J shot back May. Still swimming in the big tepid pool of life! :)
Not sure where you got your info from though because as of the other day J&J boosters were still available at CVS.
Catfish
12-30-21, 02:34 PM
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/jj-booster-84-effective-against-hospitalization-safrican-omicron-era-study-2021-12-30/
edit: Why Johnson & Johnson is suddenly so 'bad'
https://www.statnews.com/2021/12/17/the-tragedy-of-johnson-johnsons-covid-vaccine/
Its about how many Covid-induced deaths there have been in what ammount of time ...
Sure, but what proof exists that all of the people in the photo you posted actually died of Covid? (As opposed to dying with Covid.) Or, for that matter, that any of those people even had Covid at all? For all I know, that could be the result of one weekend of gang violence in NY. Or Detroit ... there's really absolutely nothing in terms of context there.
Skybird
12-30-21, 02:58 PM
You mean they all sipped from the same jar of rotten mayonnaise and died on it? My goodness, the hygienic conditions in New York are terrible. Or even in normal times so many people die at the same time that the undertakers can no longer keep up and the corpses have to be stored in refrigerated trailers?
Skybird
12-30-21, 03:16 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/front-line-physicians-describe-vaccination-affects-patients-latest-cov-rcna10215
And in Germany, some virologists are cautiously optimistic, saying that possibly Omicron is a turning point and the virus now turns enemdic, meaning it becomes less harmful in symptoms it causes, but more common, like so many other seasonal germs over the year. It could mark the beginning of the return of normality. Almost all medical experts agreed always that this sooner or later would happen, that all virus pandemics turn endemic, it was just so far hard to assess when this would be the case with Covid-19: 2 years, 5 years, more. Well, maybe 2022 already. I am cautiously optimistic.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/front-line-physicians-describe-vaccination-affects-patients-latest-cov-rcna10215
And in Germany, some virologists are cautiously optimistic, saying that possibly Omicron is a turning point and the virus now turns enemdic, meaning it becomes less harmful in symptoms it causes, but more common, like so many other seasonal germs over the year. It could mark the beginning of the return of normality. Almost all medical experts agreed always that this sooner or later would happen, that all virus pandemics turn endemic, it was just so far hard to assess when this would be the case with Covid-19: 2 years, 5 years, more. Well, maybe 2022 already. I am cautiously optimistic.
I hope you and these scientist will be right and it turn into something weaker. like our flu/influenza.
Markus
Skybird
12-30-21, 04:02 PM
I hope you and these scientist will be right and it turn into something weaker. like our flu/influenza.
Markus
Oh, it will, that has always been clear. The question always only was: when?
My goodness, the hygienic conditions in New York are terrible.
Having been there, I can tell you that is an understatement.
Or even in normal times so many people die at the same time that the undertakers can no longer keep up and the corpses have to be stored in refrigerated trailers?
Welcome to the city that never sleeps. What would you do with 156,405 corpses (https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/vital_statistics/2019/table31a.htm) (428 per day)? Remember that NY has over 27,000 people per square mile.
BTW, having been inside many refrigerated trailers and industrial coolers/freezers, I'm almost certain that picture was taken inside a building and not in a trailer.
Doesn't matter anyway.
Oh, it will, that has always been clear. The question always only was: when?
I have this inner fear that after the next mutation it will become more deadly than the Delta variant.
That this variant Omicron is what I would call calm before the storm.
Markus
I have this inner fear that after the next mutation it will become more deadly than the Delta variant.
That this variant Omicron is what I would call calm before the storm.
Markus
My fear is that, from this point forward governing via mandate rather than the will of the people becomes normal
Buddahaid
12-30-21, 07:09 PM
My fear is that, from this point forward governing via mandate rather than the will of the people becomes normal
The Preamble
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
The bold can cover health mandates.
My fear is that, from this point forward governing via mandate rather than the will of the people becomes normal
That is something to watch out for-The government use our ignorance to impose laws against the people(against the democracy)
Markus
Cruise ships a virus nest.
Cruises should be avoided regardless of vaccination status, CDC says
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/cdc-cruise-travel-risk-level/index.html
Markus
Rockstar
12-30-21, 08:56 PM
The Preamble
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
The bold can cover health mandates.
Can it, how so? How does that then override the the States constitution and rights and the fact Biden just stated there is no federal solution? What about the part “shall not deprive life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness without due process? Take those authoritarian mandate and kindly place them where the sun don’t shine
Buddahaid
12-30-21, 09:09 PM
Can it, how so? How does that then override the the States constitution and rights and the fact Biden just stated there is no federal solution?
That's the crux of it and that's the Supreme Courts call even though one of the new members couldn't describe the First Amendment...
You can argue a lot into what "promote the general Welfare" means then and now.
Rockstar
12-31-21, 07:52 AM
Everything about the constitution seems to me is prevent the very thing you seek the government and the Supreme Court to do. Especially for something that is fast becoming as dangerous as the common cold, like omnikron. I’m also pretty sure the Supreme Court isn’t in the business of arbitrarily taking on subjects and ruling by decree either. For them to make a judgement there must have been a argument brought before them. Here’s your big chance present your argument.
Look at the science of the progression of pandemic flu virus they eventually become a non event. This isn’t polio, measles, chick pox where you are vaccinated and you’re done. This is a flu variant ever changing extremely hard to keep up with and pin down. I’ve had COVID, I have anti bodies why in blue farking blazes would you now demand I get vaccinated. Why not start testing for anti-bodies instead of virus? Why haven’t there been any herd immunity studies? Why not allow doctors to speak about alternative treatments and therapy instead of demonizing them and the therapy. Why no media coverage about what Japan and others countries doing? There’s more to life than this narrow minded point of view that only the vaccine can save you therefore by decree you shall be injected.
And top on my list is why are leaders seemingly so disinterested in following the rules they demand we do?
IMO the best way to stay out of the hospital is to eat healthy and excercise. Instead of building u/v boxes how about you go outside and get some fresh air and sunshine. I got vaccinated. You want to get vaccinated good on you hope it’s everything you dreamed it would be. But if those that dont want too let them be who knows 55 years from now when we can finally see how this approval process went about we may just discover it was they who were the smart ones. The idea that they clog hospitals so should be denied treatment is horrifying to think there are these nasty thoughtless inhuman arseholes that actually wish that on another.
Jimbuna
12-31-21, 08:14 AM
Muted celebrations mark the New Year as countries around the world begin to see in 2022
PM Boris Johnson is urging people to take a Covid test and think about ventilation before celebrating.
The government says it has met a target to offer Covid booster jabs to all adults in England by today.
The same goal is said to have been reached in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Covid absences in acute NHS trusts in England rise by more than 40% during Christmas week.
In South Africa, where the Omicron variant was first discovered, officials say the fourth wave of Covid infections may be over.
Jimbuna
12-31-21, 08:20 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/5yJvmm7Z/122549452-uk-card-with-vax-booster-30dec-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/TLkpdnX9)
Jimbuna
12-31-21, 08:25 AM
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
https://i.postimg.cc/dVh7rXQh/Untitled.jpg (https://postimg.cc/gxPkPgZp)
Skybird
12-31-21, 08:50 AM
More from the House of Scum.
https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/coronavirus/jetzt-seht-ihr-mal-was-passiert-unbekannte-zerstechen-reifen-von-pflegerinnen-und-legen-unfassbaren-zettel-auf-auto_id_33182151.html
Dirtbags slit car tires of nurses' cars and leave letters like these that show what rimless a.h. they are themselves. A lose translation:
Now you see what happens when innocent citizens are asked to vaccinate! We don't want a mass vaccination! Do not complain that you are paid too badly, your own fault! Try another job! :) There is no corona virus, everything is just a lie so that you can demand more money! Yes, you are oh so overwhelmed, now you can think about whether you are really heroes!
# we stand up
Ekelhaft.
Rockstar
12-31-21, 09:16 AM
No doubt there are contentious inhuman demented arseholes everywhere. It’s unfortunate that people have been lead to believe there are only extremists in the world.
Jimbuna
12-31-21, 11:41 AM
String em up from lamposts to act as a deterrent.
Jimbuna
12-31-21, 12:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EDBJBmlvXY
Jimbuna
12-31-21, 12:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTftlM0MJUk
Rockstar
12-31-21, 01:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTftlM0MJUk
Oh dear nearing the end of the pandemic? What will the mandate nazis do now? Call Dr. a Campbell a lying antvaxxer or pat themselves on the back for saving the world? It’s gonna be fun too watching them grasp at straws.
Rockstar
12-31-21, 03:22 PM
First omicron death in U.S. CONFIRMED by CNN. Wait, maybe they lied just a little instead. Well OK, not really it was a fabricated outright lie. But hey, they do claim themselves as the most trusted news source, so they got that going for them.
https://youtu.be/B-HOoaGd4QA
Rockstar
12-31-21, 03:31 PM
It is a scientific FACT a vaccinated person can still be infected with the virus and shed that virus similar to an unvaccinated person.
Unless you believe the Covidian Cult propaganda of Rachel Maddow.
https://youtu.be/qWLc8dHW0T4
...even though one of the new members couldn't describe the First Amendment...
"Couldn't describe it". That's kinda hard to believe doncha think? How about some context before I jot it down to ridiculous dem propaganda?
Skybird
12-31-21, 04:01 PM
The nurse who posted on Twitter about that letter, meanwhile said on Twitter he was deceived, the letter was a fake used on an earlier opportunity already. He learned about it after others pointed him to it. He got intentionally cheated.
I want this understood, its not the mistake by that nurse, he got cheated.
Focus has withdrawn the original story meanwhile and excused for having unknowingly helped to spread it.
Scum is on both sides of the fence. What all the scum has in common is it both stinks. Dirty tricks are allowed to boost the cause and draw attention, no matter what it is, these people think. I dispise them all, no matter what side of the fence they sit.
No doubt anti vaccers have a party now, but they should not, producing BS themselves all day long since long is common habit, too.
On a side-note, my father is back to full duty again. All sideffects of the second jab that knocked him down, are now gone. My mother is relieved, of course, so am I. In principle, he felt the same symptoms like me, in the same order and running by the same timetable - just 15 or 20 times more intense.
Skybird
12-31-21, 04:38 PM
:Kaleun_Applaud: :yeah: :salute:
https://www.today.com/health/woman-tests-positive-covid-19-flight-isolates-5-hours-bathroom-rcna10303?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma
^ She did the right thing. Next thing for her is to take a more correct test-A PCR test. These quick test isn't exactly trustworthy.
Markus
Skybird
12-31-21, 05:03 PM
Official data from the European Medicine Agency EMA on numbers of side effects of vaccine doses given.
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory/overview/public-health-threats/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/treatments-vaccines/vaccines-covid-19/safety-covid-19-vaccines
A total of 627.5 million vaccine doses were administered in the EU and EEA by December 1, 2021. Vaccination side effects were reported in 835,484 cases, i.e. 0.13 percent of all vaccinations.
In Germany, until Decembre 23rd, 123 million doses were given. In 0.16% (less than 197,000) of cases a side effect was reported. In 0.02% (26,200) of cases, severe side-effects were reported. In earlier data, 2 cases were treated as possible cases where side effects causally led to the detah of the vaccinated person.
Source: https://www.pei.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/newsroom/dossiers/sicherheitsberichte/sicherheitsbericht-27-12-20-bis-30-11-21.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=7
Rockstar
12-31-21, 05:07 PM
Science takes a back seat to corporate overlords. hehe
https://youtu.be/we8lgFDxzf8
On a side-note, my father is back to full duty again. All sideffects of the second jab that knocked him down, are now gone. My mother is relieved, of course, so am I. In principle, he felt the same symptoms like me, in the same order and running by the same timetable - just 15 or 20 times more intense.
Great news Sky!! Happy New year.:yeah:
This virus is truly contagious
Closed-circuit camera footage, genetic testing and careful contact tracing show that the only conceivable way the virus could have passed from one room to another was in air that leaked out when both doors were briefly opened, the researchers said.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/30/health/new-zealand-covid-facility-transmission/index.html
Markus
Skybird
12-31-21, 06:37 PM
Great news Sky!! Happy New year.:yeah:
Thanks! Same to you!
Rockstar
01-01-22, 09:03 AM
Two thirds of you are obedient little mandate Nazis.
Let’s hold people down and inoculate them with a vaccine we know absolutely nothing about. It’s going to be at least 55 years before we are allowed to know the full extent of how trials were conducted and drugs were approved. We hear of heart issues, sometimes death and other dreadful side effects and for two thirds of you people that’s fine because your god science said so. My advice next time stop and ask questions and demand answers.
Can you imagine if 18,000 people died from eating Oreo cookies? Most is not all of you would raise holy hell and demand to know what was up? But out of your naive fear your ok with it and will otherwise blindly follow.
The Milgram Shock Experiment
By Saul McLeod, updated 2017
One of the most famous studies of obedience in psychology was carried out by Stanley Milgram, a psychologist at Yale University. He conducted an experiment focusing on the conflict between obedience to authority and personal conscience.
https://www.simplypsychology.org/milgram.html
65% (two-thirds) of participants (i.e., teachers) continued to the highest level of 450 volts. All the participants continued to 300 volts.
Milgram did more than one experiment – he carried out 18 variations of his study. All he did was alter the situation (IV) to see how this affected obedience (DV).
Conclusion:
Ordinary people are likely to follow orders given by an authority figure, even to the extent of killing an innocent human being. Obedience to authority is ingrained in us all from the way we are brought up.
Obviously peoples opinions are greatly formed by the environments they have experienced. I'll concider myself lucky overall.
obviously :roll: but I wouldn’t go around patting yourself on the back.
Rockstar I am NOT an expert on virology and/or immunology
I can't therefore not say if what our authorities and expert tells us is correct or false.
I have as mentioned before stopped believing things-I don't believe anything anymore. I have however decided to follow the rules our authorities has given us-I have when it comes to Corona-Decided to believe it is very much real and it has also to do with family members contracting it.
I don't see myself as a mandate Nazis
Markus
Rockstar
01-01-22, 09:23 AM
Rockstar I am NOT an expert on virology and/or immunology
I can't therefore not say if what our authorities and expert tells us is correct or false.
I have as mentioned before stopped believing things-I don't believe anything anymore. I have however decided to follow the rules our authorities has given us-I have when it comes to Corona-Decided to believe it is very much real and it has also to do with family members contracting it.
I don't see myself as a mandate Nazis
Markus
I don’t see myself as one either. I took the initial outbreak quite seriously. Having never had a reaction to the vast number of vaccines I received in my life. When the time came I dutifully stood in line for this mRNA Moderna vax. Knowing I was a Guinea pig I did my due diligence and read up on possible side effects. What a miserable experience that was, never in my life had I ever had such reaction to any previous vaccine so I refused the second. Both decisions were MY decisions and mine alone. I fart in the general direction of those obedient little mandate nazis who demands of others. They can take a long walk off a short pier.
I don't see myself as a mandate Nazis
People never do, then they justify it to themselves with the excuse "I'll just go along to get along". (rhetorical comment)
People never do, then they justify it to themselves with the excuse "I'll just go along to get along". (rhetorical comment)
Never thought of that.
That I'll just go along to get along by saying I'm not a mandate nazis.
Well I do not vote-Haven't done this since 2002.
I got no Corona Vaccine.
I have had ZERO corona symptoms since start.
I do believe the virus does exist.
Markus
Jimbuna
01-01-22, 10:45 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/bwVNtSTp/122555053-covidbox311221.jpg (https://postimg.cc/BjD0W6kV)
Rockstar
01-01-22, 01:51 PM
I want all mandate Nazis to go out and get a booster every time one becomes available. Do it, don’t delay set the example for us lowly people to follow. Be sure to let us know how it goes.
https://youtu.be/PpqcAoT9LOk
One more thing I’d like to add this vaccine will not eradicate COVID. A vaccinated person can become infected and shed the virus just like an unvaccinated person can. Some may claim masks work but only to a certain degree under strict controlled test procedure. It is not a real world fact of life that they are as effective as they are in a controlled test. People are not trained in their use and not one manufacture of any of these masks has ever claimed they will protect you from a virus and I doubt they ever will. Don’t blame family members for something they really can’t control nor have been trained in the use of any protective measures. There is a reason those at the Wuhan lab wear fully encapsulated suits when they screw around with gain of function research. If you feel the need to blame someone, blame the those who funded the research and allowed the the virus to escape. Thank Fauci for the 5 million dead.
Skybird
01-01-22, 04:56 PM
9 out of 10 patients in ICU are not vaccinated. Quite some hospitals say they have not even a single one vaccinated patient in ICU.
In regular hospital caretaking, vaccinated people often form the relatively biggest group. Why? Because the huge majority of the population now is vaccinated. Compared to that, unvaccinated people in regular hospital stay are overrepresented by several factors.
If you would have a vaccination rate of 100%, then ALL patients in hospital would be vaccinated.
Average age of people in ICU is 20 year lower than during the first waves.
You must hate people a very lot that you still spread your toxic drivel.
Vaccinations help to keep people out of ICUs. Vaccinations help to lower the number of general hospitalizations, so that hospitals do not get overwhölemed, hopefully.
And no lie some stupids endlessly parrot does change that.
em2nought
01-01-22, 05:40 PM
If you feel the need to blame someone, blame the those who funded the research and allowed the the virus to escape.
Let's just hope it escaped accidentally, although I suspect freedom was needing a bit of squashing so....
Are you surprised ? Did you expect something like this would happen ?
Israel has recorded the first case of a rare mixture of two diseases, influenza and coronavirus, dubbed “flurona”.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-flurona-coronavirus-covid-influenza-b1985281.html
Markus
Good grief!! :k_confused:
Good grief!! :k_confused:
For what my friend ?
Markus
For this:
Israel has recorded the first case of a rare mixture of two diseases, influenza and coronavirus, dubbed “flurona”.
Yes, another variant, just what we need!! :doh: (or is "flurona" if you happen to get both covid and flu together?)
For this:
Yes, another variant, just what we need!! :doh: (or is "flurona" if you happen to get both covid and flu together?)
Ah OK
I don't think they can merge or can they ? I don't know.
Markus
Skybird
01-01-22, 07:07 PM
Its a double infection. Two deseases at the same time.
Buddahaid
01-01-22, 07:46 PM
Its a double infection. Two deseases at the same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia367GT6JqA
Mmm, flurona, two virus's in one!! :haha:
Buddahaid
01-01-22, 08:19 PM
Mmm, flurona, two virus's in one!! :haha:
Top girl child name for 2022.
As long as it's not m'm'm'my Flurona.
They are two types of virus-so the chance they will merge is very, very small.
(read a lot about these two virus earlier today on CDC and other pages)
Markus
Jimbuna
01-02-22, 08:18 AM
One of the world's most remote workplaces - a Belgian scientific research station in Antarctica - has been hit with an outbreak of Covid. Since 14 December, at least 16 of the 25 workers at the Princess Elisabeth Polar Station have caught the virus. All are fully vaccinated and officials say cases remain mild so far. Every resident was offered the chance to leave on a scheduled flight in two weeks' time, but chose to stay and continue their work.
Skybird
01-02-22, 09:45 AM
One of the world's most remote workplaces - a Belgian scientific research station in Antarctica - has been hit with an outbreak of Covid. Since 14 December, at least 16 of the 25 workers at the Princess Elisabeth Polar Station have caught the virus. All are fully vaccinated and officials say cases remain mild so far. Every resident was offered the chance to leave on a scheduled flight in two weeks' time, but chose to stay and continue their work.
And so it begins! One by one, they start dissappearing. Obscure shadows haunt the lonely tunnels, and somebody desperately tries to find the number of John Carpenter to ask him what they now can do to escape their final doom... Was that a strange hizzing sound over there? A crawlign tentacle? And where does all this strange slobber on the floor come from?
We soon will not know...
Asked google if Omicron and Delta can combine
And found this article
Omicron and Delta may strike people at the same time and COMBINE to create an even worse Covid variant in the coming weeks, Moderna boss warns
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10309153/Risk-DUAL-infection-Omicron-Delta-create-new-super-mutant-variant.html
Markus
Jimbuna
01-02-22, 12:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYLbJ0H8zdc
Jimbuna
01-03-22, 06:20 AM
Nothing in the current Covid data suggests further restrictions are needed in England, education secretary Nadhim Zahawi tells the BBC
Even though Omicron infections are moving into older age groups, most over-50s have had a booster jab, he adds.
There are nearly 12,000 people in UK hospitals with Covid but the number needing intensive care is stable, say NHS bosses.
A hospital trust in Lincolnshire has declared a critical incident due to Covid-related staff absences.
Meanwhile all secondary school pupils in England will be tested for Covid before returning to classrooms this week.
They will also have to wear masks in classrooms, which Zahawi said was "not ideal" but would help cut transmission.
Twitter permanently bans US Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene's personal account for repeated violations of its Covid misinformation rules.
Have just seen a longer reportage on our Danish News Channel.
Who's right and who's wrong.
Some scientist say that Omicron is slightly weaker or as strong as Delta
While some scientist like those in Denmark, says Omicron is weaker if not a lot weaker than Delta.
One of the reason should be the high percentage of infected versus the number in hospital which is lower than it was when Delta was in charge(not the correct phrase).
On the other hand-This omicron is barely some month old and the real number infected in hospital could go up in a couple of month from now.
So who's right and who's wrong ?
I say better be safe than sorry and treat Omicron as it was as dangerous as the Delta variant.
Markus
Skybird
01-03-22, 06:20 PM
What the awareness of the public, and the debates, and sceptics, and the deciders, still do not really have on their radar screens:
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/gesundheit/coronavirus/joerdis-frommhold-im-focus-online-interview-long-covid-koryphaee-erklaert-was-wir-zu-corona-spaetfolgen-bei-geimpften-wissen_id_32862667.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de
Rockstar
01-03-22, 06:45 PM
What mandate Nazis never had on their radar screens are what long term side effects from any of the vaccines will be. Nobody has a clue. We don’t even know the details how the trials were conducted.
Pump’em up with the stuff what you care you’ll all be dead before anyone knows for sure what if any long haul side effects are. Bunch of unethical selfish old geezers. Nobody nver needed you to save the world pandemics run their course and fizzle with or without you. Go back to counting cases.
Jimbuna
01-04-22, 06:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1avXjzr1xnc
Jimbuna
01-04-22, 06:58 AM
Millions of pupils in England and Northern Ireland are back to school today - but there are concerns Omicron may cause staff shortages.
Head teachers say staffing could be "challenging" as teachers need to isolate - and pupils might need to be sent home to learn online.
The government is urging schools to merge classes if needed and insists face-to-face teaching will remain the norm.
Secondary school students in England will take lateral flow tests in school, while those in Northern Ireland are urged to test at home.
At least six hospital trusts have declared critical incidents, meaning priority services may be under threat.
The number of daily Covid cases has shot up in recent weeks - but early evidence suggests Omicron is causing milder illness so far.
Tennis star Novak Djokovic says he'll compete at the Australian Open with a medical exemption from being vaccinated.
Jimbuna
01-04-22, 07:00 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/y8bgZ5fW/122573154-uk-card-with-vax-booster-03jan2022-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/4YpxC8RT)
Jimbuna
01-04-22, 07:03 AM
Omicron stats are huge, but look beyond them https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59862568
Skybird
01-04-22, 08:08 AM
The US sets a new statistical world record with over 1 million new infections within 24 hours (Johns Hopkins University).
Rockstar
01-04-22, 08:36 AM
That means absolutely nothing to me and that means what to you? Are you honestly trying to say a virus can be stopped? Every year since the dawn of time viruses make their way through populations more so now since the ease of global travel.
Nobody cares and THAT is how the pandemic, the hysteria and funding for all the meaningless testing and statistics will end.
Fizzle sputter sputter and poof it’s over.
Rockstar
01-04-22, 08:42 AM
DeSantis takes a crack at the lock down democrats who all flee to Florida for vacation.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/desantis-not-surprised-democrats-flee-200900978.html
Despite all three jabs and despite keeping social meeting to only a few people- and followed the rules of restrictions -One of my cousin got Omicron.
She wonder where she could have got it.
Markus
Skybird
01-04-22, 10:18 AM
She wonder where she could have got it.
Markus
Just any random encounter with any stranger already suffices. Some virologists said that Omicron maybe could be the most infectous bug mankind ever encountered so far. The exposition times needed to get an infection with Delta mean nothing anymore here.
Point is the vaccines dramatically reduce the likelihood of hospitalization and ICU and death. Dramatically.
As for long covid, as the link I provided yestersay says, that may be a different story again. Also that reinfections after an Omicron infection got healed out are absolutely possible, and not really "rare".
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German energy companies have isolated critical teams in keyposts of their infrastructure in a bid to have them evading infections and quarantine, so that these vital functions of energy production can be maintained. These crews are practically "locked in" and "sealed". Also, quarantine time has been reduced to avoid that too many of the workforce in general are away from their jobs at the same time. The bad thing is, its done without a PCR test at the end of the reduced time, so one risks to have them still being infectous when sending them amongst people again. It looks as if they do not want to know about that risk, assuming that a problem not being looked at is a problem that goes away by itself. The Omokron wal is mounting up, and I get the impression they are pretty helpless and clueless in the face of it, not knowing what to do.
Augen zu, beten, und irgendwie durch.
Just any random encounter with any stranger already suffices. Some virologists said that Omicron maybe could be the most infectous bug mankind ever encountered so far. The exposition times needed to get an infection with Delta mean nothing anymore here.
Point is the vaccines dramatically reduce the likelihood of hospitalization and ICU and death. Dramatically.
As for long covid, as the link I provioded yestersay says, that may be a different story again. Also that reinfections after an Omicron infection got healed out are absolutely possible, and not really "rare".
She feels like she catch a light common cold.
Markus
Skybird
01-04-22, 10:36 AM
It aint over unti the fat lady sings.:o DW writes (Google Translation):
The hope is growing that the omikron variant is growing rapidly rapidly, but mostly slightly milder as a delta runs, as a new variant already appears, from which we do not yet know how dangerous it is and where it has arisen.
The new variant was detected at the beginning of December at a French travel returner from Cameroon, at the hospital IHU Méditerrannée participated in Marseille. The travel returner from Cameroon should have twelve people infected in southern France.
This new B.1.640.2 called mutant has 46 mutations in an "atypical combination" and thus has some mutations more than omikron, which has 37, states in an unprocessed preprint study.
According to them, the two already known mutations N501Y and E484K in the Spike protein can be found in the new Corona variant. The mutation N501Y has been proven very early early in the Alpha variant. It causes the pathogen to bind more strongly to human cells and make it easier to spread in the body in this way.
And E484K is one of the Escape mutations, which are nesting directly in the spike protein and thus impair the effectiveness of corona vaccines.
But what these mutations mean and whether the new Corona variant B.1.640.2 is actually contagious than the originating virus SARS-COV-2, it is not really stressful on the basis of the present data and the low fall of the fall.
We also know nothing about the origin of this new variant. That B.1.640.2 has now been demonstrated for the first time at a returnee from Cameroon, does not mean that the variant was also created in the Central African country.
However, very low vaccine quotas favor the occurrence of new coronavirus mutations. According to the data of Johns-Hopkins-Universität in Baltimore (USA), the vaccination rate currently currently amounts to about 2.4 percent.
As long as the vaccination campaign is not really driven globally, new variants will always develop somewhere, which are more harmless or more dangerous. Why the new variant belongs, will show.
Skybird
01-04-22, 10:41 AM
^ https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.24.21268174v1
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And Israel claims the second booster jab/fourth vaccination again raises the number of antibodies by a factor of 5. However this must not necessarily imply a raised protection effect, they also say: more research analysis on this is needed.
Rockstar
01-04-22, 02:57 PM
According to the award winning CEO and CNN donor. The only way we can return to normal is to purchase his product. Lol, imagine that. Never mind about other therapies, or what other nations are doing. Nope just stand in line and keep getting your boosters.
https://youtu.be/SGjFBxVq4ug
AVGWarhawk
01-04-22, 03:02 PM
Despite all three jabs and despite keeping social meeting to only a few people- and followed the rules of restrictions -One of my cousin got Omicron.
She wonder where she could have got it.
Markus
The vaccine was never a preventative. It is designed to lessen the symptoms. Omnicron is extremely contagious. My wife and I got Omnicron at Christmas. We did all of the social distancing etc.
AVGWarhawk
01-04-22, 03:03 PM
Is it possible to have herd immunity through the millions that are now being infected with Omnicron? :hmmm:
This is a German article translated into English
Here goes
The Germans no longer trust the corona numbers. This was the result of an INSA survey for BILD.
https://www-bz--berlin-de.translate.goog/deutschland/umfrage-zeigt-kaum-noch-vertrauen-in-die-corona-zahlen?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da
hier ist das orginal
https://www.bz-berlin.de/deutschland/umfrage-zeigt-kaum-noch-vertrauen-in-die-corona-zahlen
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Jeff-Groves
01-04-22, 04:12 PM
I'm seeing my Son and his whole family infected with Omni.
They all had Delta a year ago so what happened to THAT immunity?
Wife and I had Omni and I have the jabs. She doesn't.
Others near my Son are now infected.
Pretty much means damned if you do and damned if you don't.
The Lizard Under Lords want you infected for tenderizing purposes!
Skybird
01-04-22, 05:10 PM
This is a German article translated into English
Here goes
https://www-bz--berlin-de.translate.goog/deutschland/umfrage-zeigt-kaum-noch-vertrauen-in-die-corona-zahlen?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da
hier ist das orginal
https://www.bz-berlin.de/deutschland/umfrage-zeigt-kaum-noch-vertrauen-in-die-corona-zahlen
Markus
Its because Germany trails behind hilariously in digital data transfering network technology. The countign and statistics mostly still is done with pencil and paper, and then FAX is used to send the data somewhere, or even verbally, via telephone. If it still is office time. And no holiday. And no Sunday. Service time is service time. Outside service times, in many places no counting of corona cases is done. Dienst ist Dienst und Schnaps ist Schnaps. Rules are rules.
As a result the RKI almost always trails behind with it statistics. By several days, sometimes by several weeks, as now after christmas. I mean ist just two weeks ago, its a bit too much demanded to have the numbers updated correctly by now, isn't it.
Last year, even state propaganda TV reported the statistics by Johns Hopkins University - for Germany. They were more actual and more correct. When this was realised by politicians, pressure was applied on these broadcasters to no longer give the American data for Germany, instead stick to the German RKI data (being more erratic and outdated).
In the press they still sometimes give the Johns Hopkins statistics for Germany.
Its because Germany is Germany. Correct your watches thirty years back when travelling here. :03: They want digitalization, but unfortunately mostly in the wrong fields, whereas where it makes sense and would be a benefit, they leave it to words and dont do enough. :06:
Beyond that: the Germans took over one decade to build a dysfunctional airport that does not function at medium and high capacity until today, was outdated when it finally was opened, costed severla times as much as projected, is a money grave, does not carry its costs, and is most cost-efficient only when almost no planes are flying from it. I promise you, this is symptomatic for "modern" Germany.
A mean joke says that the Germans asked China to build the Berlin airport for them. The Chinese said No, shuttling all their workers to Germany and then back again for just one weekend's work would not be worth it for them. :haha:
There are serious demands to dismantle the airport. Serious. We have a similiar project with an subterranen railway station in Stuttgart. And now they started talking about doing another fiasko for such a station in Frankfurt, until 2040. With declining expertise, declining worker numbers, and delcining pplanners and engineers numbers...
So, the German population has all reason not to trust the official numbers. Even the health minister said some days ago his numbers probably are 3 times too low!
Embarassing.
You know a lot more about your countries mentality and what make a German ticks.
Than I do
Even though I have German genes in my blood(via my father) I do not always understand the Germans-I can laugh at German jokes, funny pictures or sketches.
Edit(instead of starting a new post)
The number of infected on our little island is really going skyrocket-Day before yesterday there was 38 infected-today(yesterday) the number is now 69-We are 59-something thousand living here.
End edit
Markus
Platapus
01-04-22, 06:21 PM
She feels like she catch a light common cold.
Markus
Congratulations, the vaccines seem to work well for her.
Skybird
01-05-22, 05:16 AM
Hamburg researchers find that even mild Covid courses cause organ damage.
https://www-welt-de.translate.goog/regionales/hamburg/article236042510/Long-Covid-Schaedigungen-an-Organen-auch-bei-mildem-Verlauf.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de
The study participants infected with the coronavirus reported no, mild or at most moderate symptoms at the time of infection. The vast majority of them, namely 93 percent, were treated purely on an outpatient basis; none of them required intensive medical inpatient treatment.
The result: In a direct comparison with the group of those aged and otherwise comparable non-infected, the test subjects showed signs of medium-term organ damage after surviving SARS-CoV-2 infection. In a communication from the UKE it says literally: “In the lung function test, a lung volume reduced by around three percent and a slightly increased airway resistance were documented in the participants. The heart examinations showed an average decrease in pumping power of one to two percent and a 41 percent increase in a marker protein in the blood, which provides information about the stress on the heart.
A central result also concerned the legs: According to the information, the ultrasound examination showed signs of a leg vein thrombosis two to three times more often. Likewise, a decrease in kidney function of around two percent was found in the test subjects after SARS-CoV-2 infection.
Skybird
01-05-22, 05:27 AM
And China, short before the euophemistically socalled Olympic Games, has a very, very big problem and it will impact like an asteroid in its society, I think: the vaccines made by Chinese manufacturers have shown to be practically completely impotant against Omikron.
In other words: this bug now meets a society of 1.4 billion unvaccinated people.
Well, they prevented Taiwan for acchieving a deal with Biontech-Pfizer earlier last year, mobbing and pressing Biontech-Pfizer until these withdrew from it. And they abuse Olympia as a propaganda show for their own purpose, pretty much the same way the Nazis did with the last Olympic Games before WW2. - Therefore, my condolence is limited. The ordinary people mostly stand behind this government. So why not allowing them to feel the accountability of their nationalistic loyalty. Their econoym will feel the sting.
Ours too, unfortunately. But that is our accountability: to have made ourselves so dependent from them. All laughs are on our costs. Nobody forced us, but shortsighted greed drove us.
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Meanwhile, I am wondering: What is Australia thinking, letting Djokovic in with a special permission? Long-upheld No-Covid regime (admitted: now collapsed)? Same rules for all? Vaccination mandatory? Obviously many people in Down Under also are angry with their officials.
Jimbuna
01-05-22, 09:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk_t4qTfAfw
Jimbuna
01-05-22, 09:32 AM
People in England with a positive lateral flow test but no Covid symptoms will no longer have to take a PCR from 11 January.
This will be reviewed when the proportion of people with the virus in England drops below 1% for a sustained period of time, the UKHSA says.
And the government is expected to stop asking for pre-departure Covid tests for UK arrivals.
Boris Johnson will face MPs at 15:00 GMT in the first Prime Minister's Questions of 2022
At a news conference on Tuesday, he said he hoped the country could "ride out" the Omicron wave.
Sir Keir Starmer will miss PMQs as he has tested positive for Covid
In Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon reduces self-isolation for Covid cases from 10 days to seven.
And fully-vaccinated close contacts of cases in Scotland no longer need to isolate for ten days.
Jimbuna
01-05-22, 09:42 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/DZngz67C/122581990-uk-card-with-vax-booster-04jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/94gT8GRT)
The number of infected on our little island keep on going up.
Yesterday it was 69 infected, today the number is 78
If I wrote in one of our local groups that curfew would be the right thing to do and only one member of the family are allowed to do the shopping 2 times per week - I would be ridiculed
Markus
Skybird
01-05-22, 06:26 PM
Getting a booster shot decreases Covid-19 mortality by 90% compared to being fully vaccinated, according to data highlighted Wednesday by US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky.
During a White House coronavirus briefing, Walensky shared data on booster dose efficacy from studies conducted in Israel while the Delta variant was dominant.
The data Walensky presented indicated that a booster dose of a Covid-19 vaccine:
decreased infection by 10 times compared to those who were fully vaccinated
decreased severe disease by 18 times in people over age 60
decreased severe disease by 22 times in people ages 40 to 59
decreased mortality from Covid-19 by 90% compared to those who were fully vaccinated
“While these studies were done when Delta was the dominant variant in Israel, we expect to see a similar trend of increased protection over those who are boosted with Omicron,” Walensky said.
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/omicron-variant-coronavirus-news-01-05-22/h_2d785034053ff8f961c9a10f66fd0bd5
Jimbuna
01-06-22, 06:31 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/tJMcVqGT/122594340-uk-card-with-vax-booster-05jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/vx5hJdBF)
Jimbuna
01-06-22, 06:33 AM
World No 1 tennis star Novak Djokovic, who has not been vaccinated, has been denied entry to Australia.
Speaking about his rival's predicament, Rafael Nadal says the vaccine "is the only way to stop this pandemic"
"Everybody is free to take their own decisions, but then there are some consequences," he adds.
A court hearing on deporting the Serb star has been adjourned and he remains in a Melbourne detention hotel.
Elsewhere, Italy’s government announces compulsory vaccinations for people over the age of 50
The UK reported 194,747 new cases on Wednesday, plus 334 deaths.
Covid testing for people travelling to England has "outlived its usefulness", Transport Secretary Grant Shapps says.
the vaccine "is the only way to stop this pandemic" You kids keep telling yourselves that.
Today the number infected on our island is now 95 - Yesterday it was 78.
We are 5964 people living on our island.
Markus
Jeff-Groves
01-06-22, 03:04 PM
So getting near a 2% positive rate?
Rockstar
01-06-22, 08:51 PM
So what happens when mandate nazis and their meaningless statistics attempt too rule the day? People with common sense get pissed off.
https://youtu.be/3_Ch9vHHk0o
So getting near a 2% positive rate?
1.59289067739772%
1.59289067739772%
We are getting closer day by day.
Today 106 has been tested positive for Corona(Omicron and Delta)
Which gives 1.7773(1.78) %
Markus
Skybird
01-08-22, 08:27 AM
I think we can no longer go on like this in Germany, and elsewhere. A growing rift in society, a growing and already devastating economic price to pay that adds to the already before self-made inflation and redistribution crisis. The human cost amongst (burnt-out) nurses and (developing) kids.
On the other side, and focussing on the perspective in German here: a stellar ammount of lacking consiststency in political leadership and competence of the health authorities in even just correctly tracking numbers, something where Germany awfully fails while others show how to do it better. A growing alarmism and hysteria about ever growign doomsday perspectives, and the misled and megalomaniac belief that one could still master, command, rule the virus. And an obvious desire to abuse the health arguments for establishing ever growing political total control mechanisms to make governing easier. Or what they call "governing."
I have been quite clear and determined regarding certain things that everybody should do. I am for wearing masks where distances of 3m cannot be kept, and inside rooms and building with public traffic anyway, thats a no-brainer to me. People not getting vaccinated while they could, should be sanctioned, more on that below. We may need to consider re-vaccinations once per year, like it is recommended with seasonal flu shots.
But this headless, clueless, actionistic back-and-forth moving by politicians has just killed my last nerve. There is no sanity an no longer-term strategy to be seen in their actions, and anti-actions, and-re-acitons, and no-actions. Its pure activism. While "experts" seem to bother most for staying in business themselves by never giving up the alarmism, but always showing up with an ever bigger threat ahead.
We cannot save everybody. We cannot save the stupids from being stupid, the irresponsible from being irresponsible, and the old from being old and those with degraded immune systems from having degraded immune systems.
We cannot stay endlessly stuck by always moving at the pace of the slowest, and weakest. If the weakest define the standard for everybody else and all, than all are as weak as their weakest. What can be hoped to acchieve by always being fixiated on one's weaknesses? What could be achieved if instead focussing more on the potential strong options?
We are, once again, exaggerating it with our protection of just each and everybody. And the price for that is indeed massive decline of all what defines our industrial and economical sphere of living, and civilization. And this price is being paid for - for what? Politicians headlessly and superactionistically and opportunistically running around and doing today this, tomorrow the opposite, chaising people from left to right and back and forth and then starting all over again?
Thats the rant of today. The "philosphical" background. Gockel und Hennen, die herumstolzieren.
The practical aspect, this is what I would like to see and would enforce if I had the power:
1. 3 Vaccinations recommended, and strongly. Employers have the right to ask employees for their status, proven by documentation. Employers have the right to decide all by themselves, basing on their companies internal conditions and needs, whether or not they employ unvaccinated or not. The individual company'S status and circumstances cannot all be covered by federal laws and rules, it makes no sense. Let the company chef decide what he thinks goes in his company, and what not.
2. Unvaccinated people who get infected and need medical treatment, mild or severe, have their health care excluded from paying for their treatment. They must pay it all by themselves, from first to last cent. If that is ruinous for them and their families, so be it. Freedom implies self-responsibility, self-responsibility implies need for decision making, decisions one makes imply the demand that one stands up for the consequences these decisions trigger.
3. PCR tests can be asked for by shop owners and restaurant owners and studio owners, as well as employers, but it is their decision. Making it mandatory however has shown to be so impractical and deterring, that I would skip this step, even more so since contact tracing has practically broken down in many places where the labs and health offices are overwhelmed anyway. PCR test before shopping? Myelf, I reacted to it by never having done a PCR test for shopping so far, instead ordering more via online, and yes, evil Amazon. Is that the economic change they want? Making it more difficult for in-town shops to keep customers and instead driving peopel in mflocks to online big-size retailers? Amazon is booming currently.
4. There must be a more logical definition of what sytem-relevant commercial infrastructure is, and what not. I have a much stricter understanding for that, it includes bakeries, supermarkets, drug stores, pharmacies, sellers of pet food, health practitioners. These are relevant for maintaing human and pet life. But electronics chain stores, book shops, do-it-yourself stores, and the likes, are not essential for life. These latter ones should have nation-wide mandatory access rules, limiting access to only triple-vaccinated, or dual-vaccinated with a PCR test of the day. Without exception.
5. Border traffic of one-day-shoppers form neighbourign countries, must be stopped. Before christmas we got a tightening of rules in the Netherlands, and what happened? All those "infected Dutchmen" flooded in one big wave to their favourite shopping sites beyond the German border, which my hometown happens to be for sure. So the Dutch shut down, and we got all the people due to which the Dutch shut down? Such nonsense makes no sense. This includes holiday travels. Shut down means shut down, period. Dont like it? So don't I. Then dont shut down. Simple. All, or nothing at all.
6. States, nations, regions that shut down, must also close the borders for their own people, preventing them to evade into other places. See above, point 5. I would expect this alone to be so deterring for policy-makers and regional governments that shut downs would no more being decided. It would probably also be impossible to enforce. But the point is it makes no sense to shut down, while allowing evasion. If you shut down, you have to close the borders in both directions. Obviouly you cannot maintain that for long time, so that is another reason why I would expect no more shut downs then. But right now they call alibi shut downs, while havign so many loopholes that these make little sense anymore, and they do this just to pose with their decision making potency and that "they do something". No matter whether it makes sense or not - this is what has gotten me fuming by now. This stupid "doing just anything," no matter whether it makes sense. If you do something, the action must meet the intention, and you gotta do it right, else don'T start at all.
7. Where hospitals must decide whether to treat unvaccinated or vaccinated first becasue they run out of beds, the vaccinated must be given priority rights. Only exception: people who indeed for medical reasons that are proven (not just claimed) cannot get vaccinated. But else I clearly differentiate between people who got vaccinated, and those who reject to get vaccinated. The llatter have to live with the price of their decision, and they have zero claim to make that others must step back just to protect their own selfishness. I dont accept this. The constituional court in germany sees it different, its not the first thing where I totally reject the court's call and do not accept it. My dispise for it has grown very, very much over the past 10, 15 years.
I would hold unvaccinated responsible for any infections they help to bring upon others, but practically this is almost always impossible to achieve, and so for mere pragmatical reasons I recommend to not try this: too much time and bucks, too little bang. Its not right, I don't want it, but I see no realistic, pragmatic way how to enforce it. Life is not perfect.
8. Violent corona protesters must all be detained, sued, and penalised, in quick reaction, and the penalty must not be suspended,and nit must have a sting with a pain. If a corona protest is labelled as a "Spaziergang" (a "walk" only), to evade juristical terminology-dependent prohibtions of a demonstration, this should not be accepted, too, but treated as an illegal demonstraiton (which it de facto is). Im not willing to buy this $h!t from ideologically driven word-wrestlers. I am not even willing to argue or debate with them anymore. Enough is enough.
9. Numbers of staff in hospital cannot be raised quickly, but after many years of total political failure to improve the known awful situations in so many houses, nurses should be paid better, and lastingly so (not just a one time bonus payment), and there should be a clear discrimination between the ammount of "service" and overtime working hours done for vaccinated and for voluntarily unvaccinated Corona patients. The focus must be on the vaccinated.
10. Obviously many non-Corona patients must suffer, have surgery delayed, do not run therapies and screenings, because hospital capacities are all eaten up by - mostly unvaccinated - Corona patients. I do not accept this prioritizing of non-vaccinated Corona patients over non Corona patients. What I said about vaccinated and unvaccinated Corona patients, also applies to non-Corona patients and unvaccinated Corona patients. Therefore, the reserved capacities for Corana treatment should be reduced and reflect the need according to hospitalizations of vaccinated Corona patients, then a few beds for unvaccinated Corona patient, but the vast majority of these remaing beds going back into the supply pool for non-Corona focussed medical treatments. We have seen a huge chain of delayed surgeries and cancelled medical procedures in the past two years, due to corona, and I do not really want to know how many people have died early not from Corona, but due to Corona clogging up the system so that they did not get treatment after their accident, their stroke, their diagnosis for whatever it is. I have no moral or ethical problems at all to make this discrimination. As I already said, freedom comes with self-responsibility comes with decision making comes with facing the consequences from decisions one made.
We are notoriously trailing behind the virus' twists and and turns. We must get not only ahead of it, we must instead get out of the predetermined loop - else we will get both economically and civilizationally shattered: nothing less than this: shattered. The damages done already are threateningly high, the supply chains are bogged down, inflation soars a record heights, and they additionally boost it even further with endless socialist voter bribery programs and now "climate policies" so costly that they will break many ordinary household's fiscal backbones.
Finally, I red this in two nice German essays in the past three days, we must claim back our lifes. When we have gotten our three jabs, if we maybe also add what I so often have recommended in additionally supporting the imune system and physical stamina, and if we behave reasonably with others - not hystericlaly overreacting, wearing masks in stormy winds with the next person beingn a hundred meters away - then why not saying "Ive done what reosonably can be done, I got vaccinated for the time being, I boosted my chances to escape a serious cause if I catch the bug - more I cannot do and does not want to do, the rest is probabilites dancing with opportunities to the tunes directed by fate."
The total carelessness is to be avoided. But the hysteria and notorious Angst of one's own shadow, the fixiation on the daily intake of bad news and Corona statistics, we must re-learn to avoid again, too. For heaven'S sake, "shoot those politicians", and bring back some rational sanity to things again. Listen to what experts have to say, but also be aware that they have their own predefined and very narrow perspectives, and all too often their own self-interests as well.
Act sane and reasonably. Ignore politicians (and dont dare to vote for them) . And get on with your lives. The golden rule shall be everybody's compass: what you dont want to get done to you, don't do to others. My freedom ends where it starts clinging to that of others. Nobody was born to accept that others make a claim for him serving their interests.
Jimbuna
01-08-22, 09:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfZ62aWf6pk
Jimbuna
01-08-22, 09:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH1u1GIPU2A
Jimbuna
01-08-22, 09:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uKqSmJBx0g
Jimbuna
01-08-22, 09:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA-fvyGw-cc
Jimbuna
01-08-22, 10:09 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/SxGHY6XD/122620893-uk-card-with-vax-booster-07jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/K1R0dgDM)
Here in Denmark, we have a problem with self-appointed police officers who walk around and give orders to Danes who are by law exempt from wearing a face mask or visor
A person who are exempt from this does not have to show it-It's enough this person says it.
I don't know what kind of Facemask/Visor restriction you have in your country-I'm sure that you also has these self-appointed police officer playing Coronapolice
Markus
Buddahaid
01-08-22, 01:01 PM
Here in Denmark, we have a problem with self-appointed police officers who walk around and give orders to Danes who are by law exempt from wearing a face mask or visor
A person who are exempt from this does not have to show it-It's enough this person says it.
I don't know what kind of Facemask/Visor restriction you have in your country-I'm sure that you also has these self-appointed police officer playing Coronapolice
Markus
I've never encountered any facemask arguments yet and demonstrations are usually people at freeway overcrossings with anti-mandate signs.
Rockstar
01-09-22, 09:58 AM
I think if any long or short side effects are discovered from any EUA vaccine. Then all those stupids who without question obediently had it injected into them should bear the costs of their healthcare or if they can’t afford it simply be left to rot rather than clog my hospitals
FDA forced to produce public documents at more reasonable rate.
No person should ever be coerced to engage in an unwanted medical procedure. And while it is bad enough the government violated this basic liberty right by mandating the Covid-19 vaccine, the government also wanted to hide the data by waiting to fully produce what it relied upon to license this product until almost every American alive today is dead. That form of governance is destructive to liberty and antithetical to the openness required in a democratic society.
https://sharylattkisson.com/2022/01/read-fda-forced-to-produce-public-documents-at-more-reasonable-rate/
Jimbuna
01-09-22, 02:25 PM
Latest UK death figures today:
97 deaths making an overall total in excess of 150,000
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Jimbuna
01-09-22, 02:33 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/VLNnNyhH/unnamed.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Skybird
01-09-22, 02:35 PM
BioNTech Pfizer announced that beside a new vaccine against Malaria based on mRNA technology, they also have started development of an mRNA vaccine against varicella zoster infection. I dont know how long it takes, but I am interested because 30 years ago i have had it, and pretty badly, and it seems the existing double-vaccination based on an inactivated vaccine can have hefty side-effects for some people.
Other companies are scrambling over mRNA technology as well. Seems to become the next big thing in med tech of the coming decade or so.
Jimbuna
01-09-22, 02:41 PM
The boss of one of London's busiest hospitals has said he is worried about losing staff when new rules come in requiring them to be vaccinated.
From April, front-line NHS staff in England will need to have the Covid jab - or will be moved to another role.
King's College Hospital chief Clive Kay said his job was to encourage workers to get jabbed - and 10% of his 14,000 staff were still unvaccinated.
The government's Nadhim Zahawi defended the policy as "the right thing" to do.
From the start of April, under law NHS staff in England who have direct face-to-face contact with patients will need to have been vaccinated against Covid.
A similar policy has already been brought in for staff working in social care in England - with care homes warning it has worsened the staffing crisis. The NHS is already facing a severe lack of staff and is short of about 93,000 workers.
Mr Kay was speaking after one of his own doctors challenged Health Secretary Sajid Javid over the issue, saying he was "not happy" that he faced being dismissed for not getting the jab.
The doctor, Steve James, an ICU consultant, argued that he believed he already had antibodies after catching Covid - and has since told the BBC he believes vaccination should be a matter of personal choice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59927306
Rockstar
01-09-22, 02:49 PM
More of the liberal Democrat blue anon hive mind mandate nazi cult think exposed. I hope those mindless morons all rot in hell.
https://youtu.be/REJa6wc-Jfk
Rockstar
01-09-22, 03:02 PM
More of the Liberal Democrat blue anon conspiracy theorist hive mind covidian cult mandate nazis exposed. May those arrogant unethical stupids rot in a dumpster.
https://youtu.be/pxiQeZ21SFU
Say hello to Deltacron
A strain of Covid-19 that combines delta and omicron was found in Cyprus, according to Leondios Kostrikis, professor of biological sciences at the University of Cyprus and head of the Laboratory of Biotechnology and Molecular Virology.
"There are currently omicron and delta co-infections and we found this strain that is a combination of these two," Kostrikis said in an interview with Sigma TV Friday. The discovery was named "deltacron" due to the identification of omicron-like genetic signatures within the delta genomes, he said.
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/new-covid-19-variant-deltacron-found-in-cyprus-2698332
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Skybird
01-09-22, 08:28 PM
The discovery currently is not undisputed and the researchers reputation was quoted in media to be a little bit in doubt.
Too early to assess this news, me thinks. Lets sit still and listen the sonar for a while.
Jimbuna
01-10-22, 09:22 AM
Boris Johnson says the government will "look at the science" over possibly cutting the minimum Covid isolation period from seven days to five.
And after newspaper reports that free lateral flow tests could end, the PM says we'll continue to use testing as an "important line of defence"
Cabinet minister Michael Gove also denies the government plans to stop supplying free lateral flow tests, calling them vital.
Some 100,000 critical staff in sectors including food processing, transport and the border force will start to receive lateral flow tests from today.
Novak Djokovic's family have welcomed a court decision allowing him to stay in Australia and say he has already returned to the tennis court.
The tennis star hopes to defend his Australian Open title but the government could yet make another move to block his entry over his vaccination status.
Jimbuna
01-10-22, 09:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2k-bVcjiX4
The discovery currently is not undisputed and the researchers reputation was quoted in media to be a little bit in doubt.
Too early to assess this news, me thinks. Lets sit still and listen the sonar for a while.
I know I was a little to hasty
It may be so that the people at the lab has mixed these two variant.
Markus
WHY !? When we know how dreadful this Corona can be then I have to ask myself WHY
The first word smit-Means infect
https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/samfund/smit-mig-kvinde-soeger-corona/9070235?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da
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Jeff-Groves
01-10-22, 04:21 PM
I'm waiting on the decepticron.
:har:
Pretty sure it will be followed by the AutoShots to fight it!
Rockstar
01-10-22, 05:46 PM
And this is how COVID ends by making an absolute mockery of the meaningless statistics, liberal Democrat mandate nazis and covidian cult.
https://youtu.be/r9SiVu0XzZc
Well this is upsetting news, cats can get covid!!: :k_confused:
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/04/cats-bronx-zoo-coronavirus
Buddahaid
01-10-22, 06:56 PM
The hospitals I work for have upped the general mask requiremnt to non fit test N95 masks. Basic surgical masks are no longer good enough for walking the hallways etc.
Well this is upsetting news, cats can get covid!!: :k_confused:
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/04/cats-bronx-zoo-coronavirus
This news has been out there for over 18 months, where have you been?
Rockstar
01-10-22, 07:48 PM
https://youtu.be/OlSY2NQEoYA
Rockstar
01-10-22, 07:51 PM
The hospitals I work for have upped the general mask requiremnt to non fit test N95 masks. Basic surgical masks are no longer good enough for walking the hallways etc.
No longer? Never at anytime were they any good as a countermeasure against biological agents.
This news has been out there for over 18 months, where have you been?
Taking a nice long nap!! :yep:
Well then, to bring you up to speed:
Animals reported infected include:
Companion animals, including pet cats, dogs, and ferrets.
Animals in zoos and sanctuaries, including several types of big cats, otters, non-human primates, a binturong, a coatimundi, a fishing cat, and hyenas.
Mink on mink farms.
Wild white-tailed deer in several U.S. states.
And the genius' in charge continue to try and put this particular genie back in the bottle. even though it's been loose for 2 years. I'm hoping they run out of stupid pretty soon so the rest of us can go back to living our lives.
Skybird
01-10-22, 10:13 PM
Some zoos have vaccinated their big apes against Corona, especially gorillas.SSome animals can carry the infection with symtoms of a cold, or none. Some animals are vulnerable to become seriously ill. Gorillas, for example.
But what about - squirrels... ?
CDC director says study of vaccinated people show 75% of COVID-19 deaths 'had four or more comorbidities'
by Asher Notheis, Breaking News Reporter (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/author/asher-notheis) |
| January 10, 2022 05:19 PM
| Updated Jan 10, 2022, 09:48 PM
Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said 75% of vaccinated adults who died of COVID-19, as recorded in a newly released study, had at least four comorbidities, sparking an outpouring of commentary from people surprised by her statement and others saying, "I told you so."
The top health official made the comment on ABC's Good Morning America on Friday, days after Dr. Anthony Fauci said on TV that statistics (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/broken-leg-anthony-fauci-child-covid-19-hospitalizations-overblown) on child hospitalizations are being overblown. Vaccine mandate skeptics have said the COVID-19 (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/supreme-court-revises-transcript-of-gorsuchs-comment-on-flu-death-count) death toll was inflated by people who died with COVID-19 as opposed to dying of COVID-19 (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/white-house-declines-to-call-out-covid-19-misinformation-from-supreme-court), and some of them claimed they were made into pariahs or punished on social media for making these claims.
"This is a stunning admission and one that is quite literally at the crux of my Facebook (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/tag/facebook?utm_campaign=autolink&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=autolink) lawsuit against their fact-checkers," conservative commentator Candace Owens tweeted. "I reported on the scam of them calculating deaths 'with Covid' years ago and fact-checkers called me a liar."
"The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities," Walenksy said. She added that this was "encouraging news" considering the spread of the omicron variant, which health officials believe is more transmissible than other strains but causes less severe illness.
Walensky was referring to a study (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7101a4.htm?s_cid=mm7101a4_w) that used data from U.S. healthcare facilities to look at more than 1.2 million adults who completed "primary vaccination" between December 2020 to October 2021. Among the tiny percentage of those who died (36 people), 78% suffered from at least four comorbidities.
Some on Twitter (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/john-stamos-and-others-remember-bob-saget-i-love-you-so-much-bobby) took Walensky's comment to indicate if COVID-19 mainly kills people with comorbidities, it is a good sign.
"It is 'encouraging' to [Walensky] that chronically ill and disabled Americans are dying … our deaths clearly don't count," tweeted Matthew Cortland (https://twitter.com/mattbc/status/1479640367888801797?s=20), a lawyer who said he suffers from a chronic illness.
The CDC told the Washington Examiner (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/) that Walensky did not mean to marginalize people with existing health problems.
"She is deeply concerned and cares about the health and well-being of people with disabilities and those with medical conditions who have been impacted by COVID-19," the CDC said. "The CDC director continues her commitment to protect all Americans in this next stage of the pandemic."
More than 839,000 deaths in the United States have been attributed to COVID-19 (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html).
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-director-says-75-of-covid-19-deaths-had-four-or-more-comorbidities
Some zoos have vaccinated their big apes against Corona, especially gorillas.SSome animals can carry the infection with symtoms of a cold, or none. Some animals are vulnerable to become seriously ill. Gorillas, for example.
But what about - squirrels... ?
No documented cases to date, however they are on the list of 28 potentially vulnerable species.
there are programs in place to force squirrels to wear masks and maintain social distancing protocols.
campus-squirrels-given-tiny-masks-to-stop-spread-of-covid-19/ (https://www.goshen.edu/news/2021/04/01/campus-squirrels-given-tiny-masks-to-stop-spread-of-covid-19/)
Jimbuna
01-11-22, 08:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P17_Op2kOk4
Jimbuna
01-11-22, 08:59 AM
Speaking in Parliament, Labour's Angela Rayner asks if the PM knew about the No 10 drinks party in May 2020, calling on him to respond.
The deputy leader says it's "incredibly disappointing" he's not answering himself, and asks if he is still believed to be a man of honour and integrity.
Responding, minister Michael Ellis says he has confidence in the PM, but will not comment on the ongoing investigation into gatherings.
About 100 people were invited to the "bring-your-own-booze" event in the Downing Street garden in the first lockdown, the BBC understands.
Witnesses say Boris Johnson and his wife Carrie were among about 30 people at the gathering on 20 May 2020
The PM has declined to say if he was there after ITV News obtained the original email invitation.
He has full confidence in his private secretary Martin Reynolds, who sent the invite, No 10 says.
Meanwhile, from today, people without Covid symptoms no longer need a PCR test to confirm a positive lateral flow in England.
And the lifting of restrictions on large outdoor events in Scotland is expected to be announced this afternoon.
The World Health Organization (WHO) has said that more than half of Europe's population will have been infected with the Omicron variant within six to eight weeks.
Jimbuna
01-11-22, 09:01 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/zf1NF85p/122647572-uk-card-with-vax-booster-10jan2022-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/JsKS1wsB)
Catfish
01-11-22, 09:03 AM
Speaking in Parliament, Labour's Angela Rayner asks if the PM knew about the No 10 drinks party in May 2020, calling on him to respond.
The deputy leader says it's "incredibly disappointing" he's not answering himself, and asks if he is still believed to be a man of honour and integrity
Who do you think it is, at the lower right ? :hmmm: :03:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2783857&postcount=14098
Jimbuna
01-11-22, 09:05 AM
Carrie of course :)
Catfish
01-11-22, 09:16 AM
And beside her someone who cannot remember :shucks:
Jimbuna
01-11-22, 09:22 AM
More likely somebody she and a great many more currently wish they had never been associated with :yep:
What is your take on people who on purpose let them get infected.
As mentioned before infected people use a cotton stick which they use in their throat and nose and then give it to a fresh person who do the same, in hope to get infected.
Markus
Jimbuna
01-11-22, 12:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2N0cP3A-qU
Jimbuna
01-11-22, 12:54 PM
Covid: UK Evening Update
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59955398
Jimbuna
01-11-22, 12:55 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/vTFG8Nt2/122664390-uk-card-with-vax-booster-11jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/Pp4g2Kc1)
What is your take on people who on purpose let them get infected.
Not the first time it has happened. Google "bug chaser" and prepare to be amazed.
Subnuts
01-11-22, 04:08 PM
What is your take on people who on purpose let them get infected.
As mentioned before infected people use a cotton stick which they use in their throat and nose and then give it to a fresh person who do the same, in hope to get infected.
Markus
Well, you just shine a UV light up the other hand for a few minutes and no more Covid, right? :hmmm:
Not the first time it has happened. Google "bug chaser" and prepare to be amazed.
Here is the reason why people shouldn't do it.
"And it's widespread, coming from all types of people, the vaccinated and boosted and the anti-vaxxers," he added, with a warning. "You'd be crazy to try to get infected with this. It's like playing with dynamite."
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/11/health/deliberate-omicron-infection-wellness/index.html
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Jeff-Groves
01-11-22, 05:59 PM
What is your take on people who on purpose let them get infected.
You mean like drug users who share needles then get Hepatitis?
:hmmm:
Pretty God danged sure they know the end results!
Jimbuna
01-12-22, 11:29 AM
Boris Johnson has - for the first time - admitted he attended a drinks party at No 10 during the first lockdown.
Speaking at PMQs, he offered a "heartfelt apology" but said he had believed it to be a work event.
Labour leader Keir Starmer urged the PM to resign, calling him a "pathetic spectacle of a man who has run out of road"
Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross also says the PM's position is no longer tenable and he should resign.
Starmer and other MPs questioned how Johnson could have thought the party was a work event.
Witnesses said both the PM and his wife were among about 30 people at the event in May 2020 - at the time it was forbidden to meet more than one person outside.
No 10 says it is waiting for the results of an inquiry.
With todays number infected here in Denmark the total number since March 2020 has passed 1 million. There live around 5.8 million in Denmark.
Since thousand may have had it without noticing it-The total number infected could be higher.
Markus
Jeff-Groves
01-12-22, 12:03 PM
Labour leader Keir Starmer urged the PM to resign, calling him a "pathetic spectacle of a man who has run out of road and what the hell is up with his hair?"
Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross also says the PM's position is no longer tenable and he should resign. Then stated "and what the HELL is the hair all about?
Starmer and other MPs questioned how Johnson could have thought the party was a work event.
Witnesses said both the PM and his wife were among about 30 people at the event in May 2020,
"We can't assume he knows how to comb his hair let alone do something like this!"
- at the time it was forbidden to meet more than one person outside.
Let alone not comb your hair!
No 10 says it is waiting for the results of an inquiry as to where the PM's comb disappeared to.
Fixed it.
:har:
Jimbuna
01-12-22, 12:45 PM
:haha:
Jimbuna
01-12-22, 12:47 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Wbvj5cBY/122678890-uk-card-with-vax-booster-12jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/232P5M8n)
Buddahaid
01-12-22, 01:07 PM
Apparently if you need to go to the ER in New Orleans expect a ten hour wait now. It must be that new cold that I've been hearing about.....
Apparently if you need to go to the ER in New Orleans expect a ten hour wait now. It must be that new cold that I've been hearing about.....
You get this from the same source which claimed last summer that Oklahoma hospitals were overwhelmed because of Invermectin use?
Buddahaid
01-12-22, 02:38 PM
You get this from the same source which claimed last summer that Oklahoma hospitals were overwhelmed because of Invermectin use?
Oscar the Grouch.
em2nought
01-12-22, 03:40 PM
I predict we're about to be required to wear N95s to fly. :hmmm:
Rockstar
01-12-22, 03:40 PM
Could be too from the surge in heart disease, strokes clogging up hospitals too.
Rockstar
01-12-22, 07:40 PM
I mean look at the idiots demanding mandates. It’s lawyers, politicians, unelected bureaucrats and of course the multitude of uneducated gullible party fanboys.
Not one doctor in the bunch.
https://youtu.be/Lyvxc_0gqow
When a government becomes powerful it is destructive, extravagant and violent; it is an usurer which takes bread from innocent mouths and deprives honorable men of their substance, for votes with which to perpetuate itself.
Marcus Tullius Cicero
Buddahaid
01-12-22, 07:46 PM
And then there are the selfish people who whine about about being required to have at least one shot while received the charity from Ronald MacDonlad House.
https://www.newsweek.com/ronald-mcdonald-house-site-relocate-all-tenants-over-5-who-arent-vaccinated-1668715
Rockstar
01-12-22, 09:08 PM
I think you’re missing my point entirely. Ronald Mac Donald House a private non profit has every right to set its own standards. And the father has every right to bitch and remove his son to another treatment facility.
None of it negates the fact that lawyers, politicians, unelected bureaucrats and party fanboys who don’t have the slightest clue what’s being injected into their own bodies are fighting to ‘mandate’ the use of a flu vaccine.
Seems my health is slowly coming under under the control of morons and party officials instead of me and my doctor
Buddahaid
01-12-22, 11:44 PM
We've been there and done that. Is it any better?
https://youtu.be/2JHCfe86A8U?t=984
Dang! 16:24 plague, etc.
Buddahaid
01-13-22, 12:03 AM
I was just tripping on how the vaccine debate parallels the fluoridation resistance. Nothing ever really changes. :arrgh!:
I'm nonplussed that I didn't connect this before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3zN4-n8ZWg
Slim Pickens!! :up::up:
They didn't waste the actors on that show!!
Rockstar
01-13-22, 06:27 AM
Frankly I would rather have explained to me the details of the drug trials and the approval process. But you can’t, not even the bureaucrats, lawyers and party officials demanding mandates can or will.
Instead I get the Byzantine Empire and a Hollywood movie waved at me.
Seems my health is slowly coming under under the control of morons and party officials instead of me and my doctorYou were warned this would happen back in 2009 when the ACA was being debated.
Rockstar
01-13-22, 09:24 AM
I was just tripping on how the vaccine debate parallels the fluoridation resistance. Nothing ever really changes. :arrgh!:
I'm nonplussed that I didn't connect this before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3zN4-n8ZWg
I don’t think you looked at the Wikipedia page you linked to very closely did you? Yes there are the kook left/right conspiracy theories which obviously are at the forefront of everyone’s minds these days and of course the fond memories of a great movie.
But your link also delves into some big boy conversation about ethics, alternatives and how even some governments and judges have stopped it and why.
Jimbuna
01-13-22, 10:59 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/T142S9p9/QVNIMTI0-MTA0-Mz-Ay.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
Jimbuna
01-13-22, 11:00 AM
The isolation period for people who test positive for Covid has been cut to five full days in England.
From Monday, people will be able leave isolation from the start of day six after two negative tests.
While the UK is "learning to live with Covid" the NHS will remain under significant pressure, health secretary Sajid Javid says.
In a fiery exchange, his opposite number Wes Streeting questions why Javid has defended Boris Johnson over parties.
The PM continues to face calls to resign from Labour and some senior Tories over a drinks party during lockdown.
He earlier cancelled a visit to Lancashire because a family member tested positive.
France is relaxing its travel rules for vaccinated Brits, who will no longer need a compelling reason to go there.
Travel firms say they have seen a sharp rise in bookings to French skiing destinations.
And England's deputy chief medical officer Jonathan Van-Tam is leaving his role.
Jimbuna
01-13-22, 11:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrVGymR-jFU
Buddahaid
01-13-22, 12:51 PM
I don’t think you looked at the Wikipedia page you linked to very closely did you? Yes there are the kook left/right conspiracy theories which obviously are at the forefront of everyone’s minds these days and of course the fond memories of a great movie.
But your link also delves into some big boy conversation about ethics, alternatives and how even some governments and judges have stopped it and why.
Does your ego get happy when you insult people? Do you feel superior using cute names for those who don't agree with you as you do with every video you post?
Jimbuna
01-14-22, 06:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1R09yIKqq4
Jimbuna
01-15-22, 06:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRycK82LsTE
Jimbuna
01-15-22, 06:59 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/zBxjxW2J/122721311-uk-card-with-vax-booster-14jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/7GT06Cyc)
Skybird
01-15-22, 06:32 PM
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-hospitalizations
https://i.postimg.cc/L50jh4C6/current-covid-patients-icu.png (https://postimg.cc/N2mKztvW)
https://i.postimg.cc/x1LbVP2d/current-covid-patients-hospital.png (https://postimg.cc/BjQvxHtW)
Rockstar
01-15-22, 07:07 PM
More meaningless statistics.
It’s well known the U.S. tests more people in a day than most countries can in a week. Everyday here in Florida people spend hours waiting in line at drive through test sites because they feel a little under the weather and run to get tested. It’s turned into a big business now. There is also a BIG difference between patients in hospital ‘with’ COVID and patients in hospital ‘because’ of COVID.
Catfish
01-15-22, 07:11 PM
More meaningless statistics. [blah]
I take it "Jimmy Dore" knows it better :hmmm:
Rockstar
01-15-22, 07:13 PM
If it was Jimmy Dore’s opinion I would have posted a link to it.
What you read is my opinion.
What’s yours?
Catfish
01-15-22, 07:15 PM
I think Florida is the worst pro-anti-vaxxer argument you can have.
The rest related to your last 125.000 or so posts of Dore :O:
Rockstar
01-15-22, 07:46 PM
I watch the news here every morning and it’s the same thing. People lining up to get tested because they feel a little under the weather. In fact officials are working overtime to make these tests available, like I said it’s turned into big business. Also, statistically Florida ranks third, behind Texas and California.
Skybird
01-15-22, 07:53 PM
Its not a national competition. No medals to win, sorry. That would need to standardize case numbers against population size. The US has four times as many people than Germany, even more in case of the UK or France, as just a few examples. No wonder then that its graphs are so much higher.
Its about that and where the graphs are climbing.
Also, practically everywhere unvaccinated still are overrepresenmted in ICUs. Often they are 80, 90 and more percent of the patient sin ICUs.
Vaccinations work. They keep vaccinated out of ICU and keep them from dying.
Statistics, btw, are not for cherry pickers: valid if they suit your case, and invalid if they don't.
Jimbuna
01-16-22, 02:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZAa1BsB2ZI
Jimbuna
01-16-22, 02:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3W84wb5jKo
Rockstar
01-17-22, 07:47 AM
In Florida news there have been no detectable levels of the Delta variant in waste water. There were never any mandates either. But if you still want too wear a mask and inject yourself with boosters til the cows come home. go for it.
I bet the mandate Nazis just hate it when nature takes it course and shows them how useless they really are.
Jimbuna
01-17-22, 09:22 AM
It is “cautiously good news” that Covid cases seem to be falling across England, an infection modeller says.
Prof Mike Tildesley tells the BBC “it’s pretty clear that the Omicron wave is slowing down”
The UK recorded 70,924 daily Covid cases on Sunday - the lowest figure since 14 December.
Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi says England is now in a "better place" for restrictions to be eased.
Meanwhile, the PM continues to face pressure over lockdown parties held in Downing Street.
People with Covid in England can now stop self-isolating on day 6 if they test negative on days five and six.
Plans to sell tickets to the public for the Winter Olympics in China have been scrapped.
Skybird
01-17-22, 03:04 PM
For the first time ever in Germany, the vaccination status of patients in ICUs has been exactly counted across all German hospitals. That counting results showed that of all ICU patients across all of Germany, 62% were unvaccinated, 32% had two vaccinations, and 6% had three vaccinations.
This compares to the current vaccination status amongst the german population: 24.9% are completely unvaccinated, 28% had two vaccinations, and 47.1% had three vaccinations. There are two small fraction groups where there is no recommended vaccine available, or who had gotten just one vaccination dose so far.
The data shows absolutely crystal clear that the vaccination work, and very well so. It keeps people out of ICUs.
Triple-vaccinated people currently form 47% of the German population, but represent just 6% of patients in ICU: they are underrepresented by a factor of 8. Completely unvaccinated are 25% of the population, but they fill 62% of the beds in ICUs, that is an overrepresentation of factor 2.5
This is no projected or estimated data, but counted totals.
A differentiation between Delta and Omikron did not take place. But Omikron is dominant now in Germany, with reports from some days ago saying the health ministry set the rate of Omikron at 71% of all known Covid cases in Germany at some point during last week. This corresponds with that amongst patients in ICU, one in three is just double-vaccinated, while Omikron defeats two job easier than three.
Vaccination works. Basta.
Jimbuna
01-18-22, 06:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QVAXZPNaMI
Jimbuna
01-18-22, 06:53 AM
The World Health Organization has struck a note of caution following suggestions the government could ease restrictions in England on 26 January.
Dr David Nabarro, the WHO's special envoy on Covid-19, says the situation in the UK "gives us grounds for hope" as Covid cases appear to be falling.
But he warns against "premature promising that restrictions will end at a particular time"
Meanwhile, Boris Johnson is facing more pressure over the drinks party in the No 10 garden during lockdown in 20 May 2020
Dominic Cummings, his former aide, claims the PM "waved aside" concerns about the event and lied to MPs over lockdown parties.
Deputy PM Dominic Raab has denied this, saying Cummings' claim the PM lied is "nonsense"
The Scottish government is being urged to ease Covid rules more quickly, as Nicola Sturgeon prepares to update MSPs later.
Jimbuna
01-18-22, 06:54 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/gkL7X44y/122747264-uk-card-with-vax-booster-17jan2022-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/nCZ2N4yM)
Rockstar
01-18-22, 07:54 AM
If you can’t beat him, ban him.
https://www.cbssports.com/tennis/news/novak-djokovic-situation-explained-world-no-1-deported-one-day-before-australian-open-after-failed-appeal/
Novak Djokovic, the world's No. 1-ranked men's tennis player, looked to be a go for the Australian Open after his visa was reinstated Monday. But those hopes faded once Djokovic's visa was canceled a second time on Friday, and they evaporated after the 34-year-old was deported after his appeal failed on Sunday.
For four days, Djokovic remained under Australian Border Force (ABF) watch while awaiting the ruling on his visa.
Skybird
01-18-22, 08:24 AM
I am so sorry for him. Not.
It is known that Australia has some of the tighest border policies in the world. And that they only let vaccinated people in. Its their current law. Their place - their rules, period.
Why Tennis Australia told him he had a special permission, is beyond me. They meanwhile have auspended and deported a few other players as well who were let in on false premisses and data.
But the rules were clear: vaccination mandatory: recovery is not enough. Somebody told Djokovic that he was above the laws applying to everybody else. Thats what happens if you have the wrong people around you.
He was even lucky, he could have ended in jail for making wrong statements on his entry form. In Australia, so I red, doing so on entry is not just a minor infringement, but a criminal offence that is under prison penalty.
He also either lied about his Covid infection he suddenly claimed to have had in Decembre, or was indeed infected but than broke the isolation rules in Serbia, and Spain, putting others mindlessly and egoistically at risk. And that now is really unforgivable.
But then, he is the son of a father who compared him to Jesus. And he spoke a lot of stupid rubbish already before this chapter.
I say he is a smug egomaniac. Its not the first time he has triggered negativ headlines. This time he got what he had asked for. He should have gotten it earlier already. I can fully underdstand the poublic anger of Australians after all they went through. And then somebody gets a free ride because he is good at hitting small balls over a net...? If I were Australian, I would tell him "Good riddance, please never come back."
The Australian authorities did not handle this clever, I admit that, and poltics played into it, too. But in the end they were right and the law is the law. Djokovic has only himself to blame. Maybe the decision on giving special permissions (if these are even a good idea at all) should not be left to a private business party that has clear conflict of interest. Tennis Australia shouldn't have had any word in this from all beginning on.
Djokovic is too full of himself. And maybe he should consider to replace his advisors.
Bubblehead1980
01-18-22, 08:35 AM
In Florida news there have been no detectable levels of the Delta variant in waste water. There were never any mandates either. But if you still want too wear a mask and inject yourself with boosters til the cows come home. go for it.
I bet the mandate Nazis just hate it when nature takes it course and shows them how useless they really are.
My home state. Quite ironic it has become this bastion of freedom during all of this, because it really is not under normal circumstances. Typically a very corrupt, backwards, authoritarian state.
Rockstar
01-18-22, 09:50 AM
I like Florida, IMHO better than where I just came from plus the weather is awesome.
Anyway back to exposing mandates Nazis. Below is a link to the transcripts of the recent oral arguments held in our highest court.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2021/21a244_kifl.pdf
Now we have hit this 2 percentage.
Number infected on our island is 122
and number habitants is 5964.
Which gives 2.045(if I did it correctly)
Markus
Jimbuna
01-18-22, 02:12 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/N0XjfZP3/122874246-uk-card-with-vax-booster-18jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/v1Qs02yh)
Jimbuna
01-19-22, 10:36 AM
Health Secretary Sajid Javid is to hold a news conference at 1700 GMT with Dr Susan Hopkins from the UK Health Security Agency alongside.
Plan B Covid restrictions in England will be scrapped, Boris Johnson announces, saying the Omicron wave seems to have peaked.
Working from home guidance ends today; people have been told to speak to their boss about returning to the office.
From tomorrow, face masks will no longer be required in any classrooms and from next Thursday, nowhere else.
The compulsory use of Covid passes at certain events will end from Thursday even though venues can still use them if they wish.
People who test positive for Covid will still have to self-isolate but there will "soon be a time" when this is not required, the PM says.
Coronavirus cases are showing the most significant fall since the start of the Omicron wave, the official statistics suggest.
The UK recorded 438 deaths yesterday - the highest daily number since February - and 94,432 cases.
The head of the WHO meanwhile warns the global pandemic "is nowhere near over"
Skybird
01-19-22, 11:08 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60050996
she got infected on purpose when he and his father had the virus, so she could get a recovery pass to access certain venues.
Ooopsala. Wrong choice. People never stop to be entertaining.
Jimbuna
01-19-22, 11:16 AM
This months Darwin Award winner.
Buddahaid
01-19-22, 11:28 AM
It's only a flesh wound.
Rockstar
01-19-22, 11:48 AM
Interesting take on this too is that according to BBC Two days before she died, she wrote on social media that she was recovering: "Now there will be theatre, sauna, a concert".
On Sunday morning, the day she died, Ms Horka said she was feeling better and dressed to go for a walk. But then her back started hurting, so she went to lie down in her bedroom.
"In about 10 minutes it was all over," her son said. "She choked to death".
But because she had tested positive doesn’t mean she actually died from it. In fact I doubt we’ll know for sure, but I’m sure for mandate Nazis death by anything besides COVID must be a cover-up.
Rockstar
01-19-22, 11:53 AM
Speaking of mandate Nazi lies.
https://youtu.be/JUavjbM3gi4
Jimbuna
01-19-22, 11:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP_p0a9pWCQ
Jimbuna
01-19-22, 01:23 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/FKGccNkJ/FJc-Ifkx-XEAEL1xo.png (https://postimg.cc/PLpPnG4t)
Skybird
01-20-22, 02:41 AM
Israeli study claims that fourth jab doe snto sufficently raise anti body to in fact prevent Omikron infections.
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-digest-fourth-jab-not-enough-to-fight-omicron-study-shows/a-60454680
"The rise in antibody levels that we saw with both Moderna and Pfizer are slightly higher than what we saw after the third booster vaccine," said lead researcher and director of the infectious disease unit, Gili Regev-Yochay.
However, "despite increased antibody levels, the fourth vaccine only offers a partial defense against the virus," she added.
Meanwhile, US drugmaker Moderna said its vaccine candidate against the omicron coronavirus variant will enter clinical development in the next few weeks. The company expects to be able to share data with regulators around March, CEO Stephane Bancel said.
The company also aims to roll out a combined COVID-flu-RSV booster vaccine in late 2023, hoping a joint jab would encourage people to get an annual shot.
RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) is a common virus that causes the cold that can be more serious for infants and elderly people.Earlier, the EMA already has voiced doubts that a forth jab with the so far existing vaccines does make a lot of sense. There also is the (unproven) thesis that too many jabs could actually exhaust the immune system's reaction to Covid. Its a valid hypothesis that rightfully attracts attention, but so far there is no evidence neither for nor against it. The phenomenon of so-called Anergy is real and is known for sure, however, it means that if T-cells get exposed to attacking germs repeatedly, they kind of "loose interest". Originally this biological trait is meant to protect the body'S cells form certain forms of auto-immune reactions. It must still be demonstrated whether this problem affects T-cells reaction against the Corona virus, too. Some doctors assume that boosters are more useful if not given in shorter but longer intervals.
Meanwhile the German health minister said that for mid-February he expects several hundred thousand infections - per day. According models have been shown already in early Decembre, and the trend since then has supported them.
Personally I agree with those that this year probbaly most of us will get infected - eitehr for the firts tiem, or again. The difference is that most will be under the protective umbrella of vaccinations, so that their chance to get hospitalised or even end up in ICU is dramatically redcued. To let the pandemic run unhindered already last year, would have been a crime. But now it more and more becomes the way to go. The trick is to allow that strategy only with high vaccination rates. In Germany, currently the young ones drive the infections mroe than any other age group: teens, kids, young adults. The old oens currently are the ones with the lowest infeciton rates: they have way higher vaccination rates than the younger ones.
Jimbuna
01-20-22, 09:47 AM
People in England are being urged to return to offices, as advice to work from home is lifted.
The UK is entering a new chapter in its fight against Covid-19, the health secretary says.
Sajid Javid says it is the right time to ease Plan B restrictions in England as Omicron is in "retreat"
From today, secondary pupils in England no longer have to wear face coverings in classrooms.
Compulsory face masks in public places and Covid passport rules will also end next Thursday.
NHS staff absences due to Covid are falling across the country.
Meanwhile, Boris Johnson continues to be under pressure over lockdown parties held at No 10
But a minister says Tory MPs are starting to think twice about a leadership challenge.
Jimbuna
01-20-22, 09:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UHvwWWcjYw
Skybird
01-20-22, 10:07 AM
The UK is entering a new chapter in its fight against Covid-19, the health secretary says.
The UK is entering a new chapter in Johnson's attempt to distract the public from his messy personal situation, the bird of skies says! :O:
Jimbuna
01-20-22, 01:02 PM
https://i.ibb.co/ggQ2ZH7/122919550-uk-card-with-vax-booster-20jan-nc.png (https://ibb.co/ysK9FGR)
Rockstar
01-20-22, 02:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UHvwWWcjYw
LOL what who will the usual suspects have left to mock and ridicule?
Jimbuna
01-21-22, 06:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItKsN1y7CTg
Jimbuna
01-21-22, 06:03 AM
Wales' first minister accuses the UK government of "abandoning the science" as he defends his more cautious lifting of restrictions.
Mark Drakeford, the Welsh Labour leader, says UK ministers are using Covid announcements "to distract people's attention from the awful mess" in Westminster.
Measures to slow the spread of Omicron are being eased in Wales today, with thousands of fans set to return to sporting stadiums.
Pubs and restaurants will also be able to operate outdoors without the rule of six or social distancing.
Northern Ireland is bringing in new rules on shorter self-isolation periods and table service in pubs and restaurants.
Meanwhile Adele has postponed her Las Vegas residency 24 hours before it was due to start, blaming Covid for delaying preparations.
On Thursday, the UK reported 107,364 new cases and 330 deaths within 28 days of a positive test.
em2nought
01-21-22, 09:51 PM
No words
Markus
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/038/905/8675309.jpg
Rockstar
01-21-22, 10:43 PM
Looks like the mandate Nazis narrative is beginning to crumble. :har:
https://youtu.be/8_HHKttO3yM
Bubblehead1980
01-21-22, 11:38 PM
Looks like the mandate Nazis narrative is beginning to crumble. :har:
https://youtu.be/8_HHKttO3yM
Narrative has been rubble for a while lol
Jimbuna
01-22-22, 10:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Pa3abjxoA
Jimbuna
01-22-22, 10:37 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/G2VN4X76/122937743-uk-card-with-vax-booster-21jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/mz3VqyGS)
https://i.imgur.com/S5RzDB4.jpg
Jimbuna
01-23-22, 10:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RSahdFuemE
Say hello to a new Omicron variant
Omicron subvariant BA.2, which is being dubbed with the moniker "Stealth Omicron," appears to be gaining ground in certain parts of the world, including Denmark and the UK.
https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/01/21/stealth-omicron-is-subvariant-ba-2-a-more-transmissable-strain-of-covid-and-should-we-be-w
Markus
Jimbuna
01-23-22, 10:38 AM
NHS in push to vaccinate the final four million
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60055436
Jimbuna
01-23-22, 10:45 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/kMsdwBFB/122945784-uk-card-with-vax-booster-22jan-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/9zDSQXkh)
Rockstar
01-23-22, 09:25 PM
So Democrats a.k.a the party of caring, have no problem taking children from their parents and imprisoning citizens. But are OK with closing ICU’s and letting hospital staff go.
https://youtu.be/KNIYmo0QJ8U
Could we please give Jimmy some time off? :yep:
You've already admitted that you don't trust him on anything outside of a global freaking pandemic.
That's the same as saying that you met a total whacko on the bus but he gave you a good recommendation on a shaman to do your heart surgery. :doh:
Rockstar
01-23-22, 09:52 PM
Could we please give Jimmy some time off? :yep:
You've already admitted that you don't trust him on anything outside of a global freaking pandemic.
That's the same as saying that you met a total whacko on the bus but he gave you a good recommendation on a shaman to do your heart surgery. :doh:
I never said I didn’t trust him. What I said is I don’t agree with him on much other than his commentary on COVID politics and media’s so called pandemic science. I also said he’s a hoot and just a pothead podcasting an opinion from his garage.
Here, is this better?
COVID-19: Democratic Voters Support Harsh Measures Against Unvaccinated
Thursday, January 13, 2022
While many voters have become skeptical toward the federal government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, a majority of Democrats embrace restrictive policies, including punitive measures against those who haven’t gotten the COVID-19 vaccine.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_ against_unvaccinated
The thing is unless I watched Jimmy and other sources from time to time I most likely would have never heard of the Rasmussen report or the Great Barrington Declaration. Everyone else it seems is stuck on Trump conspiracy theories.
Sometimes a whacko is just a whacko. :up:
Skybird
01-24-22, 02:09 AM
Medical problems have one very unpleasant feature: they do not care one bit for ideologies, political bias and heads in bubbles.
Hmm, the page number is worrying!! :D
Skybird
01-24-22, 02:50 AM
^ :D You must not be afraid of me!
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"Flurona" is not real.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/yes-can-catch-flu-covid-no-fluorna-isnt-real-rcna11804
Jimbuna
01-24-22, 02:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baEephIEB6g
Jimbuna
01-24-22, 02:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25-iJKPA1CA
Jimbuna
01-24-22, 02:36 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/02mh0X8f/122972623-uk-card-with-vax-booster-24jan2022-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/qzJmkL6h)
Rockstar
01-24-22, 05:48 PM
When you just made 56 billion last year off the bestest most safest vaccine in the whole wide world eva’ because ‘they’ said so. A 2.3 billion dollar fine is easy.
Wonder how much the fines will be once the mRna vaccine trial results are ever published. Maybe it is the safest maybe it’s not. Now you get the idea why some people have every right to be skeptical and refuse to be Guinea pigs.
https://youtu.be/IS3RvTglJ3s
Catfish
01-25-22, 02:38 AM
When you just made 56 billion last year off the bestest most safest vaccine in the whole wide world eva’ because ‘they’ said so. A 2.3 billion dollar fine is easy.
You of course would have developed the stuff for free, and happily given it to the world, on your own expense.
Wonder how much the fines will be once the mRna vaccine trial results are ever published. Maybe it is the safest maybe it’s not. Now you get the idea why some people have every right to be skeptical and refuse to be Guinea pigs.
Published? Maybe here, among ten thousand or so hits with this search engine alone. Trial statistics, methods, all there.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mRna+vaccine+trial+results&t=newext&atb=v1-1&ia=web
Skybird
01-25-22, 06:31 AM
You must link to the real data behind the fake data, Catfish. ;)
Phase 3 is an ongoing process-With millions of people getting the jab you could say that we have a success with phase 3.
Markus
Phase 3 is an ongoing process-With millions of people getting the jab you could say that we have a success with phase 3.
Markus
https://i.imgur.com/S5RzDB4.jpg
Jimbuna
01-25-22, 11:21 AM
The UK recorded another 94,326 daily Covid infections, according to the government's dashboard.
There have also been a further 439 deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid test.
The UK recorded another 94,326 daily Covid infections, according to the government's dashboard.
There have also been a further 439 deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid test.
Does it say how many of those were vaccinated?
Jimbuna
01-25-22, 12:47 PM
Does it say how many of those were vaccinated?
Not as far as I can ascertain and that is precisely the problem with the figures.
Eg. Test positive vaccinated or otherwise and walk out of the test building, turn the corner and get run over and killed in the traffic....Covid death!!
Rockstar
01-25-22, 05:00 PM
Where did the mandate Nazis go? Where did the Covidian Cult and their horse dewormer memes go? Where are the Karen’s shouting to ban the sick from hospitals and mock the dead? Into hiding?
https://youtu.be/cjaSgwhPx-k
Skybird
01-25-22, 05:12 PM
German doctors working in rehabilitation hospitals, all gave very similiar figures for Long Covid after "mild" infections and "mild" Omikron infections. They say that they see around 40% of these cases, after a mild cause of the intial infecton, developing a Long Covid Syndrome from 6th-8th week on and then lasting for several months, usually up to half a year. "Mild" infection...? Two in five mildly ifnected people getting knocked out like a very serious case of flu for months to come...?
Thats damn many. People are too fixiated only on the death numbers.
It ahs also become known by know thatCovid causes organic damage and fucntional organ deificts namely to the liungs and hearts even if you had just a "mild" infections. In the long perspective, this will cvause early deaths of peopel that without havign gione through Covid 19 would have lived longer.
I just wait for the clever wits with aluminium hats on that then will say it is not a consequenes of the desease but the vaccination. :doh:
Rockstar
01-25-22, 05:20 PM
As Jordan Peterson in so many words said people have become obsessively hyper-fixated one one issue and oblivious to all the other harms being done because of it.
Man up Nancy boys life is filled with risk so get used to it at start living it.
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