Wuhan virus 2020

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

Countries across Europe have been looking at different measures to allow students and teachers to return safely.

Pupils in England’s secondary schools will have to wear masks in corridors in local lockdown areas.

Spain is to use 2,000 soldiers trained in tracking to help areas identify people exposed to the virus.

Cases in the US have been falling as a result of the adoption of face masks and lower testing rates, experts say.

North Korea's Kim Jong-un has chaired a meeting to assess preparations to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

Argentina reports a new record number of cases as the country prepares for the annual Tango World Championships.

Germany has agreed to extend a scheme that tops up pay for workers affected by the pandemic by another year.

[Skybird]

86 percent do not die with, but from Corona

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[mapuc]

I have since week back discovered something very interesting.

Those of my friends,with certain exceptions, who are critical to/dislike the elected government are also those who are critical to the steps the government have taken in fighting this Corona-A majority of them also share doubtful information about Corona and the protective equipment.

Those of my friends, with certain exceptions, who support the elected government or some of the supporting parties, support the steps the government have taken to fight this Corona.

So...it's not the knowledge on Corona but their standpoint for or against the elected government.

The same goes for those who support/dislike Trump among my right wing/left wing friends.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

Rise in cases prompts French PM to speak of an 'undeniable surge'

South Korea registers 441 new infections - biggest one-day rise in cases.

Low-paid workers in some parts of England to receive £13 a day for self-isolating.

EU trade commissioner Phil Hogan has resigned after attending a golf dinner in Ireland with more than 80 guests.

Germany appears poised to limit private parties to a maximum of 25 people, and extend a ban on large events to the end of the year, as cases continue to rise in the country.

Centers for Disease Control says non-symptomatic people may not need testing in US

Remote tribe in India's Andamans archipelago records first cases of coronavirus.

Internal China flights could recover fully by next month, travel data firm says.

Australia's hard-hit Victoria sees lowest daily case rise since early July.

Argentina has for the first time registered more than 10,000 new daily coronavirus cases since the pandemic began.

More than 24m cases registered worldwide so far, and over 825,700 deaths - Johns Hopkins University.

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

Rules requiring Parisians to wear masks come into force as France reports 6,111 new cases - highest since peak of outbreak.

In Spain, children as young as six will have to wear face coverings at school.

Germans are told not to travel to high-risk countries and regions, as top state official says: "Corona is fully back in Germany"

UK government will encourage people to return to workplaces in a new campaign.

New daily infections in the UK increased to 1,522 on Thursday - the highest since mid-June.

US President Donald Trump pledges a vaccine before the end of the year, "or maybe even sooner"

About 24.5 million cases have officially been confirmed worldwide so far, with 831,000 deaths.

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

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[em2nought]

I've been told by my Thai friend that there aren't many cases in Thailand because they eat Thai spicy levels of heat. LOL I now look like I might have the virus. My nose is running and my eyes are watering from these red Thai chili peppers in my Som Tam. :D

[Reece]

:har:

[em2nought]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzXHnUViro


If I read this right, approximately 50,000 Americans who are dead from covid-19 might be alive if doctors had treated early with Hydroxychloroquine. Can't blame that on Trump. :up: Not too mention 30% of all the cases in the entire world. Seems just as bad as Cuomo sending covid-19 into nursing homes.
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[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

Protesters gather in Berlin to voice opposition to coronavirus restrictions.

In France, a further 7,379 cases were confirmed on Friday in an "exponential rise"

A leaked report for the UK government predicts 85,000 Covid deaths this winter in a worst case scenario.

South Korea sees another day of triple-digit rises, with 308 new cases registered on Saturday.

Children can carry coronavirus in their noses for up to three weeks, a study from South Korea suggests.

The Tour de France finally gets under way today, after a two-month delay.

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

A further six people who tested positive for coronavirus have died in hospital in England, NHS England has said. This brings the total number of confirmed reported deaths in hospitals in England to 29,547.

Meanwhile, Scotland has reported no new deaths in the past 24 hours and 88 new cases of coronavirus. Statistics from the Scottish government show the biggest number of new cases came from the Greater Glasgow and Clyde health board area, which saw a rise of 36 from Friday. The number of deaths of patients who tested positive in Scotland remains at 2,494.

Protests in Trafalgar Square.

Berlin police tell thousands of demonstrators opposed to coronavirus restrictions to disperse.

Ukraine and Czech Republic see significant spike in new infections.

South Korea says hospital beds running low in the Greater Seoul area.

In Australia, police are patrolling beaches as warmer weather encourages people to leave their homes in search of sun after the winter.

More than 24.7 million cases registered worldwide, over 837,000 deaths - Johns Hopkins University.

[Skybird]

Another poltical-econo mical daydream shattered: US studies show that infected children carry a very high virus load and spread it even if being asymptomatic themself.

I only wonder why it took half a year and studies to come to this earth-moving conclusion...:hmmm: Several Asian countries hinted this out already over half a year ago, if not to say: from beginning on.

Plenty, plenty of potlically wnated propaganda and lies interfere with this pandemic's truths. Official government services cannot be trusted and believed, they have talked too much nonsense and told too many lies by now - with the WHO leading this propaganda movement, also from beginning on. The goal can only be seen as a) not pissing China, and b) bringing people back into their jobs so that the economy can go on: no matter the risk and cost.


I have stopped believing government officials and services anything on this any longer, and already months ago. The video on HCQ surprises me a bit, but then Campell does not mention Zinc, and I think that is the deicisve secret ingredient in the mix, becasue it seems to me that not HCQ in low (!) doses does the trick, but that it just kicks the door open for Zinc to get Zinc into the cell (which is the difficulty). The studies I am awre of that were done in more or less beoeivable support for HCQ all ioncluded Zinc doses given as well, AFAIK.

I tried to work around this problem by taking Zinc since some months as well, in some higher, but not critical doses, both as to-be swallowed pill and as longines (whenever I leave the house). The idea is that the regular consummation may slowly help to slowly increase Zinc levels inside cells even if the transportaiton way is anythign but ideal this way. I am aware of the intrinsic problem, and see it as just a free attempt to alter chance sin my favour, and if it does not work as I hope it will, then all I lolst is just some minor money, the dosis is is highe rthna the orthodox recomemndations, but then not high enough at all as if it would put my health at risk (you can overdose Zinc, and easier than other minerals and vitamines). Beside Zinc, its obviously D3/K2/Magnesium, Selen, and Omega-3 that I added to my daily nutritiioon since Covid began, all with the purpsoe of maybe findign that they do help to alter hcnace sin my faovur, and to modulate the immune system such that it does produce - in case of infection - lower ammounts of inflammatory zytocines and more ammounts of non-inflammatory zytocines. Thats the whole idea behind my attempt.

[Jimbuna]

Number of coronavirus infections globally goes over 25m - Johns Hopkins University.

More than 842,000 have died since the pandemic began.

India set a new record for the biggest single-day rise, with more than 78,000 new cases.

University students' return to campus could cause new wave of virus, UK teaching union warns.

Children's life chances at risk if parents don't send them back to school, education secretary warns.

German leaders condemn an attempt by 'anti-corona' protesters to storm the Reichstag.

[Skybird]

German leaders condemn an attempt by 'anti-corona' protesters to storm the Reichstag.
Correction, that were Nazis.

After Asia and the US, Ecuadorian scientists now report cases of repeated infections with Corona. From all three places doctors warn that people catching the disease a second time tend to suffer much more severly from it than they did the first time.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgIa6vsHoXM

[Hitman]

The video on HCQ surprises me a bit, but then Campell does not mention Zinc, and I think that is the deicisve secret ingredient in the mix, becasue it seems to me that not HCQ in low (!) doses does the trick, but that it just kicks the door open for Zinc to get Zinc into the cell (which is the difficulty). The studies I am awre of that were done in more or less beoeivable support for HCQ all ioncluded Zinc doses given as well, AFAIK.

I tried to work around this problem by taking Zinc since some months as well, in some higher, but not critical doses, both as to-be swallowed pill and as longines (whenever I leave the house). The idea is that the regular consummation may slowly help to slowly increase Zinc levels inside cells even if the transportaiton way is anythign but ideal this way. I am aware of the intrinsic problem, and see it as just a free attempt to alter chance sin my favour, and if it does not work as I hope it will, then all I lolst is just some minor money, the dosis is is highe rthna the orthodox recomemndations, but then not high enough at all as if it would put my health at risk (you can overdose Zinc, and easier than other minerals and vitamines). Beside Zinc, its obviously D3/K2/Magnesium, Selen, and Omega-3 that I added to my daily nutritiioon since Covid began, all with the purpsoe of maybe findign that they do help to alter hcnace sin my faovur, and to modulate the immune system such that it does produce - in case of infection - lower ammounts of inflammatory zytocines and more ammounts of non-inflammatory zytocines. Thats the whole idea behind my attempt.

Here in Spain there is a Zinc + D vitamin based supplement patented and easily available at pharmacies all around. It was developed to help prevent catching colds, and it does indeed help, so I guess the same rationale applies to COVID19, as the colds are also from the coronavirus family.

If you are interested in it because it is obviously tested and the safe dose set, you can see it here:

https://www.cantabrialabs.com/en/our-brands/inmunoferon/

[Skybird]

Here in Spain there is a Zinc + D vitamin based supplement patented and easily available at pharmacies all around. It was developed to help prevent catching colds, and it does indeed help, so I guess the same rationale applies to COVID19, as the colds are also from the coronavirus family.

If you are interested in it because it is obviously tested and the safe dose set, you can see it here:

https://www.cantabrialabs.com/en/our-brands/inmunoferon/
Thanks, I check it. I know that Zinc is used with Vit-C in longines to boost prevention against common cold (because I use such longines mysyelf, as described), I also know that Zinc has proven to stop Corona virus replication inside cells, but that was done not in the body environment, but in a petridish only, with artifical transportation of Zinc into the cell that does not compare to swallowing it and having it digested in your stomach. The problem always has been to get the Zinc into the cells. If HCQ helps by serving as a transport, then it has an - unexpected - positive effect indeed. On Vit D3 I have commented myself repeatedly before. Its new to me that it would help to get the Zinc into the cells, however. Its use is in modulating the immune system for avoiding the much feared cytokine storm and instead producing more non-inflammatory cytokines.

For interested people , usually the conventional recommendations by heaölth auhtorities for daily doses of Zinc ranges between 10 and 18 mg for males and some mgs less for females. If not consuming it for longer than 2 months, daily doses of up to 50-60 mg are unlikely to cause any negative sideffects. If you plan to consume it for logne,r I would stay below thgat limit. I found les sinformation by alternmatve source son Zinc than I found on D3, so I tend to be less daring on Zinc than on D3. I currnetly take 30 mg every second day (so that I must not break the pill into two halves, its pulverising easily in the attempot), and take a 5 mg longine every time I leave the house. I am not certain on the effect and think of it as just a relatively hcepa and freee chance taking for m aybe pushing chances mildly in my favour, as I explained earlier. I would not go for doses exceeding 40mg per day and for more than two months to come without first having gotten more information about it.

Omega-3 and blood thinners also are being talked about as being helpful. I take Aspirin retard as blood thinner since years (I have high blood pressure and take meds for that), and blood clothcing and clumpoing is a huge problkem in seriosu cases of Sars-Cov-2. However, one needs to be aware of that D3 and K2 influence the blood clotting ability as well. Nothing stands for itself alone, all interacts.

[Skybird]

Hitman, that is a usual company advertising site. Honestly said, that is quite the kind of sites I would even warn of, because advertising and information are two things. The syrup contains no Zinc, and in the capsules the Zinc is underdosed, only 3 mg, that is robbery. D3 in the syrup also is way too low in dosage for adults, and it includes no K2, which is a must, either in a combination drug, or as an additional take, and then Magnesium. D3 always means a trio, as I explained some weeks ago: D3, K2, Magnesium - Taking D3 means taking these three. In certain cases even Calcium, but that has to be carefull weighed, D3 and K2 also affect the Calcium levels, can reduce or increase it in blood and bone for nthe better or worse, antagonistically. Its a bit tricky.

[Skybird]

I just checked the MedCram channel on youtube, I do not track it regularly, as a matter of fact I only rarely do - wchich might have been my mistake, I recall to have seen a video on Zinc there longer time ago, but actually they have not one but four videos on Zinc at least, also on the combination with HCQ.

Interested people check it out at youtube, the channel is MedCram. I think it was u crank bringing this channel to my attention half a year ago for the first time, if I am not mistaken.

As I understand it the idea is to have Zinc levels inside your cells boosted up. How that boost is achieved, is secondary. I believe to understand that simply swallowing Zinc helps slowly only, since most of it is not digested and bio-availability by oral consummation is very low. However, my idea is that we nevertheless have zinc in our metabolic system, and it usually gets there by simply eating foods including some Zinc. So it might be not very efficient and fast a way to get Zinc levels in your cells growing, but nevertheless: its a way, but it takes time. Thats why I swallow my Zinc pill daily, nevertheless. With HCQ it might get transported faster into the cells, but you cannot get HCQ without a doctor'S prescriptpion. And in Germany you will not get that without being seriously ill. HCQ most likely is not the active agent that blocks virus production, its just the taxi getting the actitve agent - Zinc - into the cells. It seems, as far as I can overlook the studies (and i am not the most qualified person to do that...) that HCQ without Zinc is not effective, right like it was claimed for months by many. Its an empty cab. You want Zinc as the passenger in that cab.


Zinc pills freely sold in Germany , mostly come with 25, 30 and 50 mg per pill if it is an alternative manufacturer. Clasiscal pharmaceutical producers following health authorities' very conservative claims, have the doses very much reduced to even below 10mg, and less, which imo makes no sense to spend money on, since they have the impertinence to even demand much higher prices for them.

[Jimbuna]

The US nears six million cases of coronavirus, nearly a quarter of the world's total.

Schools across Auckland reopen as New Zealand's largest city emerges from lockdown.

Victoria, the epicentre of Australia's recent outbreak, records 73 new cases - its lowest total since 3 July.

The UK government's month-long Eat Out to Help Out scheme to boost restaurant trade ends.

Labour calls for next year's GCSE and A Level exams in England to be delayed to make up for missed teaching.

Global cases of coronavirus have surpassed 25 million with more than 846,000 deaths.

[Jimbuna]

A further 1,715 confirmed cases of Covid-19 were recorded in the UK on Sunday, the biggest single-day rise since 4 June, government figures showed. One more person was confirmed dead with Covid-19 on Sunday, bringing the UK’s death toll to 41,499, the fifth-highest in the world.

The organisers behind a rural rave in south Wales have been fined £10,000 - days after tougher penalties for breaching Covid-19 regulations came into force.

In France, schools will open nationwide on Tuesday for almost 13 million young people, despite a sharp rise in coronavirus cases. Masks will be required for everyone aged over 11 - including teachers.

In Germany, where schools in some areas have been reopening over the past three weeks, parents have complained that children are being packed too tightly into school buses.

Meanwhile, Spain is planning to reopen most of its schools on Tuesday. Masks will be mandatory for those over the age of six and staff and children will have their temperatures taken before the day begins. Some schools have even created makeshift classrooms outside to increase space.

But in Turkey, the new term will begin today in slightly different circumstances. Students there will learn remotely using a dedicated online platform. Face-to-face teaching will begin on 21 September but there are reports this may be postponed further.

Venezuela's President Nicolás Maduro has announced he will be asking for volunteers to test the Covid-19 vaccine developed by Russia.

A further 4,993 people in Russia have been confirmed to have coronavirus in the past 24 hours, authorities in the country say. It brings the total number of cases to 995,319 - the fourth largest in the world. Russian officials have reported 17,176 deaths with Covid-19.

An Australian man who used a ladder to repeatedly sneak out of his quarantine hotel to see his girlfriend has received a six-month jail sentence. He will spend one month in prison after the sentence was suspended.

Ghana will resume international passenger flights on 1 September, President Nana Akufo-Addo announced on Sunday, citing a drop in active coronavirus cases.

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

Hong Kong has started mass Covid-19 testing - but critics say the programme is insufficient and could be misused for surveillance.

Children in England are three months behind in their studies after lockdown, a teacher survey suggests.

A UK travel industry leader has warned of "chaos and hardship" if Portugal is reintroduced to the quarantine list.

New rules on the wearing of face masks in workplaces come into force in France.

Hundreds of thousands of pupils in the Chinese city of Wuhan, where the pandemic began, are back in classes.

Nearly 25.5 million cases have been confirmed globally with more than 850,000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University.

[Jimbuna]

Parents in Wales will not be threatened with fines if their children do not return to school at the start of term, the nation's education minister said.

12.4 million children in France are heading back after a very long summer break. President Emmanuel Macron says the challenges are numerous but he has appealed to everyone to adopt the same responsible approach as they have for months. "Don't be scared!" is the message to parents from Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer. Monday saw new infections in France down to 3,082 - a big drop on last week.

1 September is traditionally the first day of term across Russia and today is no different. But there will be no traditional celebrations - as the number of infections nationally approaches a million.

In Italy there will be one-metre social distancing in class or face coverings where that is not possible. Capacity on public transport is being increased to 80% to enable students to return to school.

In Belgium, 1.2 million children are going back, with rules requiring no mixing of classes in between lessons, regular ventilation of classrooms and teachers and students wearing masks in the classroom.

It is a new term in Poland too - with 10 rules for safe learning for students, involving compulsory hand-washing and regular airing of classrooms.

Children in Portugal have another fortnight before they go back to school - but several education groups say the country is not yet ready because the rules are unclear.

Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has said he is moderately optimistic about the country's economic recovery despite the coronavirus pandemic.

Doctors in Nigeria's capital, Abuja, have begun an "indefinite" strike over the non-payment of what they call Covid-19 hazard allowances and other benefits since April.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DANEqOPcDwc

[Skybird]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/01/health/long-haul-coronavirus-doctor-patient/index.html


If one third of "recovered" patients suffer from longterm issues of serious kind and they cannot even say today whether thes eissues will ever go away, talking of "recovery" sounds like cynism.

[Platapus]

Occasionally, CNN runs some good stories. :o



Today, they ran a story on how rushed vaccines in the past have caused significant problems and illustrates the importance of fully testing vaccines despite the desire to help people as soon as possible.



It was an interesting and scary read.

[Jimbuna]

The US says it will not join an international search for a vaccine. It did not want to be "constrained" by the "corrupt World Health Organization and China"

The international effort is meant to speed up vaccine efforts and distribute it equally.

Millions of pupils in England are returning to school after the unprecedented shutdown.

Australia has plunged into its first recession in nearly 30 years as it suffers the economic fallout from the coronavirus.

A rise in infections in the elderly in South Korea leads to a surge in critical Covid-19 cases.

Antibody levels against the virus rose and then held steady for up to four months in recovered patients, a study finds.

[Jimbuna]

Bavaria's courts have lifted a state ban on barbecues in parks and other public places imposed in June – after a challenge from a 45-year-old barbecue enthusiast. Germany has reported 1,256 new infections today.

French cases have gone up again - 4,982 were announced last night. But in the South Pacific archipelago of New Caledonia they're having some success. By limiting flights and sending all arrivals into 14 days of quarantine in designated hotels they have reported a total of just 23 cases. Appearing to channel the cartoon hero Asterix, local leader Thierry Santa said: "We are a small village of Gauls who are holding out. All around us the world is seeing a resurgence of the virus."

The Venice Film Festival is back. The first such event since the pandemic began, La Mostra is a little different from normal. There'll be masks and social distancing, but some 6,000 people are still expected to attend
Hungary has recorded its highest number of daily cases on record - 365 new coronavirus infections - as people return from their holidays and the school year begins.

Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has apologised for errors the government made in its handling of the coronavirus outbreak. One of these errors related to migrant workers who, throughout the pandemic, continued to be housed in dormitories with upwards of 20 people in a room.

Eight clowns have been arrested in Peru for breaking a ban on group gatherings. The clowns were performing at the wake of a fellow performer who died of Covid-19 when police broke up the meeting.

India's economy contracted by 23.9% in the three months to the end of June, making it the worst slump since 1996. A grinding lockdown brought on by the coronavirus pandemic has disrupted business and left millions out of jobs.

[Skybird]

There is no solid evidence for or against recommending convalescent plasma (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/why-did-fda-authorize-convalescent-plasma-potential-treatment-covid-19-n1237848) to treat patients hospitalized with COVID-19, a government panel said Tuesday, less than 10 days after the Food and Drug Administration authorized emergency use of the treatment.
The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel, part of the National Institutes of Health, said it had reviewed all of the available research on convalescent plasma, including the FDA's analysis that led to its emergency use authorization.
"There are currently no data from well-controlled, adequately powered randomized clinical trials that demonstrate the efficacy and safety of convalescent plasma for the treatment of COVID-19," the group wrote online (https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/statement-on-convalescent-plasma-eua/).





https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/convalescent-plasma-not-recommended-treat-covid-19-government-panel-says-n1239025

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-oQI2RoXPI

[Jimbuna]

The US Centers for Disease Control is asking states to get rid of red tape to allow distribution of a potential vaccine by 1 November. Under the scenario being planned for, a vaccine would be rolled out for certain groups days before the US election.

India is coming closer to surpassing Brazil's total number of cases after another 83,883 were reported.

England's testing system is struggling to keep up with demand as a growing number of people apply for swabs.

Leading figures in UK aviation have expressed frustration that the government has still not backed testing at airports.

Meanwhile, English holidaymakers wait to see which countries will be added to quarantine list later on Thursday.

Globally, there have been more than 26m confirmed cases since the outbreak began and 863,000 deaths.

[Jimbuna]

French Prime Minister Jean Castex is launching a €100bn (£89bn) Covid recovery plan with the aim of creating 160,000 jobs in 2021. A key aim is to invest in "sectors of the future" and prevent job losses. There are three priorities: focusing on green transport and housing, making industry more competitive and promoting social and territorial cohesion.

Police in the German city of Nuremberg had to close down a YouTube influencer's scooter event at a skatepark. Claudius Vertesi had attracted a crowd of 500 young people, but there were no masks and no social distancing.

Spain has seen another 3,663 cases in 24 hours, with the Canary Islands being a particular cause for concern. The islands have recently seen a big influx of migrants and four outbreaks have been reported in reception centres. "There's no separation between the 43 people who've got the virus and 50 others in the same centre," one medic told Spanish radio.

The Czech Republic has seen a new high of 650 cases, and Health Minister Adam Vojtech says restrictions may have to be reimposed in Prague.

Dutch Justice Minister Ferdinand Grapperhaus has survived a no-confidence vote by MPs after pictures showed no social distancing at his wedding. "I got it all wrong," he admitted.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF-bcA4QZew

[Jimbuna]

A man in his 50s is the first to die with coronavirus in New Zealand since May, health officials say. He was part of a cluster of cases in the city of Auckland, which has been under renewed lockdown rules.

President Donald Trump again mocks Joe Biden, his rival in November's US election, for wearing a mask.

India records a total of 3.94 million cases, closing in on Brazil as the world's second highest tally.

Passengers returning to Wales from Portugal, Gibraltar and six Greek Islands now have to self-isolate for two weeks.

Globally more than 23.6 million cases and 868,000 deaths have been confirmed, according to Johns Hopkins University.

[Jimbuna]

Italian ex-Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has spent the night in hospital after contracting coronavirus, but a party colleague Licia Ronzulli says it's just a "small precautionary admission". Only yesterday Berlusconi, 83, told an election rally over the phone that he was fine: "no fever, no pain". Infections are rising in Italy - last night another 1,397 infections and 10 deaths were reported. There are cases in every region.

The head of Spain's Madrid region, Isabel Díaz Ayuso, says private and public meetings will have to be limited to 10 people in an attempt to halt the spread of coronavirus in the capital. Spain has seen 3,607 cases and 40 deaths in 24 hours and Madrid has seen a third of the infections.

Twenty-two schools have closed in France because of Covid-19 infections, less than a week since the start of the school year, the Minister of Education Jean-Michel Blanquer has told French radio.

A proposal by German virologist Christian Drosten to cut the quarantine period for people with symptoms from 14 days to five is gaining support. German politicians believe it could help convince the public to accept continuing restrictions on their lives.

Turkey has extended by two months a ban on layoffs it introduced to combat the economic impact of the pandemic.

At least 100 people have been infected in Norway, after taking part in a Shia Muslim religious festival south of the capital Oslo. The head of the Sarpsborg-based community, Sadiq Baker Alezairjawi, said no-one who took part in the community event on Sunday was showing symptoms.

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5fKWr_Dx1A

[Mr Quatro]

Okay gang listen up ... this is breaking news for dumb people :yep:


It should go without saying, but you need to wear a face mask if you have sex with a stranger

https://bgr.com/2020/09/04/coronavirus-prevention-wear-a-face-mask-during-sex-and-no-kissing/

All of us know the key coronavirus prevention tips, like social-distancing outside of our homes and wearing a face mask in public.
Because of the COVID-19 pandemic, though, Canada’s top doctor has made a recommendation about face masks that might sound strange on the surface — they need to be also worn during moments like when people are engaged in sex.
Likewise, she has recommended that people refrain from kissing during those encounters.

[August]

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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2 OmqsI

[Jimbuna]

Yeah,. she was on the news yesterday saying the safest sex "Was with yourself" :o

I'm not posting the video because it contains adult content/wording.

[Skybird]

Okay gang listen up ... this is breaking news for dumb people :yep:


It should go without saying, but you need to wear a face mask if you have sex with a stranger

https://bgr.com/2020/09/04/coronavirus-prevention-wear-a-face-mask-during-sex-and-no-kissing/




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Serioius, "authorities" made these witty, highly reasonable recommendations over here, too. Also for brothels.





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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2 OmqsI


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CDC Did Not ‘Admit Only 6%’ of Recorded Deaths from COVID-19 --

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/




...

In weekly updates provided on the CDC’s website, the agency includes information on additional conditions present in patients who died with COVID-19. These other illnesses or conditions found to be present in a patient are called comorbidities. The agency also includes a chart detailing the number of patients with each additional condition.

For the week referenced in the claim, the CDC explained that the chart “shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.”

That means that 6% of those who died with COVID-19 through Aug. 15 didn’t have any other reported conditions.

It does not mean that the CDC has “quietly updated” the number of deaths associated with COVID-19 to a fraction of what had been reported. It’s also not new information; the agency has been providing the same information since May.


...

The following morning, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, clarified what the CDC data mean.

He noted that the 6% figure includes cases where COVID-19 was listed as the only cause of death. “That does not mean that someone who has hypertension or diabetes who dies of Covid didn’t die of Covid-19. They did,” Fauci said on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

“So the numbers you’ve been hearing — the 180,000-plus deaths — are real deaths from Covid-19. Let [there] not be any confusion about that,” Fauci said.

...

As the epidemiologist and science writer Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz explained in a recent post, “it’s pretty rare that someone wouldn’t have at least one issue caused by coronavirus prior to their death, and all it means is that in 94% of cases people who had COVID-19 also developed other issues, or had other problems at the same time.”

Meyerowitz-Katz notes that influenza and pneumonia are listed as the most common concurrent diseases, which isn’t surprising. “Similarly,” he writes, “respiratory failure, something that the coronavirus directly causes, is listed here as a ‘comorbidity’ that 55,000 people had.”

So, it’s misleading to say that 94% of those who died with COVID-19 also had other ailments without explaining that the disease causes other serious illnesses. And it’s wrong to claim that only 6% of the recorded COVID-19 deaths were caused by the disease.

...




The above posted article also notes:




But the data on which all of this is based come from death certificates, which list any causes or conditions that contributed to a person’s death.



To use an example, when I obtained a copy of my mother's death certificate, the cause of death was complications from Alzheimer's. but the specific condition that resulted in her death was cardio vascular failure, which was a by-product of the Alzheimer's disease...

A long time ago, I had a discussion with some attorneys at a law firm in which I was employed and the topic got around to a murder case which was prominent in the news at the time; cause of death was in question and the lawyers, to a person, noted that the cause of all deaths is heart failure, pure and simple: the heart fails, blood ceases to circulate, the brain shuts down, and you are dead; it is the reason a person who is 'brain dead' and on life support maintaining heart function is still legally considered alive, even though their cognitive/conscious functionality is gone; so, technically, all deaths are the result of heart failure and, technically, even in a murder, it remains the cause of death; however, for the law and for the purposes of medical data, the proximate cause of the heart failure is treated as the actual cause of death; you may have died of heart failure, but if that failure was caused by a knife in the chest, well...

The same holds true in medical cause of death: you may have died of asthmatic respiratory failure, but if that failure was caused by Covid-19, that is the root cause of death, for the record...



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[Jimbuna]

A strict lockdown in the Australian city of Melbourne has been extended by two weeks, with officials saying new Covid-19 cases had not dropped enough.
Victoria State Premier Daniel Andrews said the restrictions would be in place until 28 September, with a slight relaxation.
A gradual easing of the measures will be implemented from October.
The state has been the epicentre of the country's second wave, accounting for 90% of Australia's 753 deaths.
Australia has recorded a total of 26,000 cases in a population of 25 million.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-54045102

[Jimbuna]

India overtakes Brazil in the number of infections recorded, and is now second only to the US. India recorded more than 90,000 new cases of Covid-19 in the past 24 hours.

Here in the UK, almost 3,000 people tested positive on Sunday - the highest daily total since May.

Australia secures almost 85m doses of a vaccine to be rolled out next year if trials prove successful.

Tokyo Olympics will go ahead next year "with or without Covid", the vice-president of the International Olympic Committee says.

Globally more than 27 million cases and 883,000 deaths have been confirmed, according to Johns Hopkins University.

[Jimbuna]

The coronavirus test and trace system has been updated to ensure people who need tests won't have to travel further than 75 miles away, the UK health secretary has said.

UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said the rise in coronavirus cases across the country has largely been among young people aged 17 to 21, as he urged everyone to take social distancing seriously.

France has recorded almost 9,000 new cases on Friday, the biggest daily increase since the start of the pandemic in March. That rise is almost twice as high as in Spain and four times higher than in Italy.

Costa Smeralda, a stretch of coast along the island of Sardinia, is known as a tourist hotspot for the wealthy and famous. But it has been drawing attention for different reasons - as a source of outbreaks in other parts of Italy. During recent weeks, around 800 infections in Lazio have been traced back to Costa Smeralda, particularly its nightclubs.

The next three days will be decisive for Italy's former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, says professor Alberto Zangrillo who's treating him for pneumonia as San Raffaele hospital in Milan.

The health ministry in the Philippines reported 1,383 new coronavirus infections on Monday - the lowest number of new daily cases in nearly eight weeks. A total of 3,890 people have died in the country with Covid-19. It has the largest number of coronavirus infections in south-east Asia, with 238,727 confirmed cases.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Ks9fUh2k8

[Skybird]

Tja tja. :hmmm:

If Dr. Campbell earns merits, then for bringing this point up again and again - and from beginning on.

I am only irritated a bit that he does not mention the very strong recommendation to also take K2 and Magnesium., but especially K2 (MK7 all-trans). On my view it is almost a must. Especially if you go higher with your daily dosage than the 2000 IE he mentions.

I again repeat the rule of thumb, as a general red line to lead you through the labyrinth: a flooding phase to fill up the fat deposits in your body with D3, else it will not start to saturate the blood and so will not be felt in positive effect (D3 in fat cells only is of use for the body if these fat cells are being "consumed"). Consider a single one dosis of 50.000 IE at the start. Then 2-3 weeks a daily dose of 10 thousand, and then reduce to the maintenance dose for the time to come, which you can calacultre by 50 IEs per kilogram body weight. If you tend to have more body fat, you should comepsnate by being generous, up to 80 IE per kipogram in case of ver yobese people. K2 should be taken daily as well, 200-250 micrograms for normally weighing people, as a rule of thumb. 100, as quite some combination drugs include, is not enough for 3-5 thousand IEs of D3.



Its not expensive. Do yourself a favour. Make a small investment into your chances. Even if the probabilities shift only slightly in your favour, the difference in your individual case might become the decisive difference.


There is nothing like D3 poisoning as was long time claimed: probloems with the clacium in bones and blood, its a misintepretation of a K2 deficit - and that is why you shoudk take K2 as well. Probolem solved. Safety limits: D3 has shown to produce slow developing problems (hyper- and hypocalcemia and consequences) or immediate reaction (dizziness, migraine, psychotic episodes) not below regular daily dosis of 40 thousand or rushed once-in-a-lifetime dosis of 200 thousand. Stay well below these maximum limits and take K2, and chances are you will survice your daring selfpoisoning adventure. :D Mostly, the critical threshhold dosis can be assumed to be even higher, but I gave the minimums to maximise the safety implication.


You may want to consider Magnesium as well, but with a time delay of min 6 hours to K2, because it is an antagonist to K2 if meeting it in the stomach. Easy way: D3+K2 in the morning, magnesium in the evening.

How I do? I had 20 thousand units per day for around three weeks or so, then 10 thousand for another three weeks, and then 5.000 per day since then. Plus 240 micrograms K2, and 300 milligrams magnesium. Half a year now. Still alive. Still healthy.

Consider Zinc as well, for quick swallowing as well as lower dosed longines when lebving the house. Not certain that it can unfold its protective (and proven) effect in this way, it must get into the cells and sufficient saturaiton, and there-in lies the problem: to get it there, but at least it cannot do harm, if you do not overdose it. Do not go beyond 40 mg per day in total - including your normal food's zinc contained. Zinc can be overdosed, and ther eis less stuff to read about it, its not that much documented as D3. Better safe than sorry. Not more than 30-40mg. I prefer to stay at a generous half of that.


Social distancing. FFP2 masks. Hygiene and often hand washing. Vit D3, K2 and Zinc. Thats what everybody can do to manipulate probabilities in his - and everybody's! - favour.

[Skybird]

Children not affected? Children only lightly affected? "Are you kidding me?"

From FOCUS:


Dangerous inflammations: Children suffer from severe long-term effects - even if the corona disease is symptom-free

Children can still get seriously ill weeks after an asymptomatic corona infection, as a study has now revealed. Severe inflammatory syndrome can lead to shock in 60 percent of cases. The organ system suffers as a result, and long-term heart damage is possible.

For a long time, children were considered largely insensitive to SARS-CoV-2 and Covid-19. Most of them have mild or no symptoms at all. But as early as May 2020 there were increasing reports of a rare but serious form of the disease that leads to a severe inflammatory syndrome in the affected children. According to initial evaluations, this syndrome occurs on average in two out of 100,000 infected children and adolescents.

This so-called multi-inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C) causes fever, severe abdominal pain and inflammation of the blood vessels and tissues. If left untreated, it can cause circulatory collapse and damage to the coronary arteries. This systemic inflammation is similar to Kawasaki syndrome, an autoimmune disease that only occurs in young children.

It has now been shown that the inflammatory syndrome caused by SARS-CoV-2 is more serious than Kawasaki disease and also occurs in older children, as Mubbasheer Ahmed from the Texas Children's Hospital and his colleagues have found in an overview study. To do this, they evaluated 662 cases of MIS-C that were reported worldwide from January to July 2020. The mean age of these cases was 9.3 years.

The result: Contrary to the initial assumption, the inflammation syndrome can seem to hit even supposedly healthy children out of nowhere. "According to the data, the children do not have to have shown any of the classic respiratory symptoms before," says Ahmed's colleague Alvaro Moreira. "The children had no symptoms, no one knew they were infected, and a few weeks later they develop this excessive inflammation in the body - that's terrifying."

This means that children can also suffer from the long-term effects of an infection with SARS-CoV-2 - similar to the delayed heart damage and neurological failures in adults.

Typically, the inflammatory syndrome caused by the coronavirus manifests itself as fever, vomiting, and severe abdominal pain. "Abdominal pain can be so severe that several young patients have been mistakenly diagnosed with appendicitis," said Ahmed and his team. The severe systemic inflammation led to shock in 60 percent of the children affected.

The course of the inflammatory syndromes is also often difficult: 70 percent of the children examined had to be treated in the intensive care unit. A good 22 percent of them had to be ventilated, and a good four percent even had to be subjected to external oxygenation of the blood by the so-called ECMO. In most cases, however, the syndrome disappears after a few days with intravenous administration of immunoglobulins, cortisone and other anti-inflammatory agents.

In eleven of the 662 children, however, the disease ended fatally, as the researchers report. Similar to Covid-19, MIS-C also affected a disproportionately large number of severely overweight children and children with previous illnesses.

According to the data, this inflammatory reaction caused by SARS-CoV-2 is significantly more serious than Kawasaki syndrome or the toxic shock that can result from a severe bacterial infection, for example. "It can be fatal because it attacks many organ systems," says Moreira. "Be it the heart and lungs, the digestive system or the nervous system - MIS-C has so many different sides that it was initially hard to grasp for doctors."

Closer examinations of various inflammation markers in the children's blood revealed that the glycoprotein procalcitonin was increased on average by a factor of 200 - that is far more than in severe blood poisoning. While septic shock typically causes procalcitonin values ​​of more than 0.1 nanograms per milliliter, values ​​of more than 30 nanograms per milliliter were measured in the blood of children with MIS-C.

The scientists are particularly concerned about the consequences of the inflammation syndrome for the children's hearts: "Almost 90 percent of the children had an EKG because they showed significant impairment of their heart function," reports Moreira. Around half of them showed signs of reduced heart pump function in the EKG, and many suffered from pathological dilation of the coronary arteries. In ten percent of the cases an aneurysm - a bulging of the blood vessel - formed out.

Troponin was also an indicator of damage to the children's heart. This protein complex is released by myocardial cells when they are damaged or die - for example in the event of a heart attack. In children with the inflammatory syndrome caused by the coronavirus, troponin levels were 50 times higher than normal, the researchers report.

"These results suggest that children with MIS-C have tremendous inflammation and potential tissue damage to their hearts," says Moreira. "We need to keep monitoring these children closely to understand the long-term consequences this could have for them." (EClinical Medicine, 2020; doi: 10.1016 / j.eclinm.2020.100527)

Source: University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio




https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/coronavirus/gefaehrliche-entzuendungen-corona-spaetfolgen-auch-bei-kindern_id_12402382.html
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[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZRUq3Igf-k

[mapuc]

Here in Denmark the number of infected keeps on going up. Today's number was 230 Friday's number was 170-something.

Most in some part of Copenhagen and Odense(third biggest city in Denmark)

Today the health authorities has imposed sanction in these two cities.

Number of people allowed in groups from 100 to 50.
No social arrangement
and other things.

These step will not help- and it has to do with our democratic rights.

1. There will always be some infected who just don't care and take his/her car to another city.

Markus

[Skybird]

Do democratic rights include the right to physical assault? Because that is what it is if an infected person ignores his infection and walks amognst the people and puts them at risk.



It compares to strolling around in a cafe or bar and putting some rat poison into people'S offee itf the loooik the other way for a seocnd. "Why not? I have a freedom to do what I want. Rat poison harm rats, the name does not say it harms people."


Which leads us to the right of self-defence. We have h dioscussions about how wise or ethical it is to lecture mask offenders in public and enfiorce the rules, laws, regulations to wear masksa. Oh the precious valuable feelings of those pure insulted egos! How can we dare...?


Some days ago a female ticket controlelr in a train got beaten up badly because she remianded a renitent "gjuest" of his obligation to wear a mask. Bus drivers, ticket controller have repatedly been spit at, beaten, kicke,d thgreatened, beaten up by antisocial thugs and scumbags who think they own all freedoms and rights and the other have none.



Scumbags. Antisocial scumbags. But we have discussions about whether it is morally right to call brutal egoists and violent ofender as that antisocial.


Why not just pull a police rubber stick througntheir face, then have them spending a night or two in prison, bill them for food and bed, and log their IDs, so that in case of repeated offence they can be recongised as such and be given a full washing up then.

[Jimbuna]

Health Secretary Matt Hancock says a "sharp rise" in cases in the UK in recent days is "concerning" No 10 not ruling out tightening restrictions on the number of people who can meet in England.

People in Scotland warned to stick to one pub visit per night, as three new deaths recorded.

Leaders of seven councils issue joint appeal to public after big rise in cases in north-east England.

Japan says it will hold the Tokyo Games in 2021, even if the pandemic is still continuing.

UK tax authorities admit about 5-10% of cash paid out on the furlough scheme was wrongly awarded.

India records its highest daily deaths in more than a month - 1,133 people in 24 hours.

US President Donald Trump and rival Joe Biden trade insults over their stances on a vaccine.

[mapuc]

We want freedom
(The biker meeting in Sturgis)

You got your freedom and here is what you had to pay for it

Epidemiologists believe that figure is a significant undercount, due to the resistance of some rallygoers to testing and the limited contact tracing in some states. As a result, the true scope of infections stemming from the rally that ran from Aug. 7 to Aug. 16 is unlikely to ever be known. Public health officials had long expressed concern over the decision to move forward with the annual event, believed to be the largest held anywhere in the U.S. since the pandemic shelved most large-scale gatherings

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/02/sturgis-rally-death-coronavirus/

Markus

[em2nought]

We want freedom
(The biker meeting in Sturgis)

You got your freedom and here is what you had to pay for it



https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/02/sturgis-rally-death-coronavirus/

Markus
If only they had called Sturgis a protest this year, why then there would be no negative results reported. :D

[Skybird]

Oxford vaccine trials on halt.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54082192


This comes at a time when in Russia concern over their own rushed vaccine (that seems to have started without valid and competed phase 3 trials) are mounting and got revealed to the public. At least it was the first time I red about that there is such concern, with the state apparently unable to suppress it (not that that is a desirable option anyway.)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK4Xm-l0gYA

[Jimbuna]

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is to give a press conference at 16:00 BST

PM expected to give more detail on announcement that social gatherings over six are to be banned in England amid rise in cases.

Johnson questioned in PMQs about virus testing situation which Labour leader said was "frankly ridiculous"

Keir Starmer described how London woman was told the nearest place for test was Telford or Inverness, before being offered test in Swansea.

England's Health Secretary earlier said "inappropriate" use of testing system was making it harder for people to get tests.

A new legal limit will be enforced through a fine but will not apply to schools or workplaces.

The Oxford University vaccine trial is paused after a participant falls ill.

The trial in South Africa, Brazil and the US involves 30,000 people. Millions of doses have already been ordered.

[Jimbuna]

Amid rising cases globally, the US remains the hardest-hit by the pandemic. More than 6.3 million infections have been confirmed in the country, and nearly 190,000 virus-related deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University.

President Nicolás Maduro has announced that Russia's locally licensed coronavirus vaccine will be delivered to Venezuela this month for clinical trials.

The Czech government has announced that face masks will be mandatory everywhere indoors from Thursday, after a record 1,164 new cases were reported on Tuesday.

The Netherlands, meanwhile, has recorded its biggest daily rise in coronavirus infections since April, with 1,140 cases in the past 24 hours.

The rise in infections mirrors a trend happening across Europe, with France and Spain also seeing stark increases of 6,544 and 3,168 respectively on Tuesday.

Countries cannot start “cutting corners” in the race to develop a vaccine against the coronavirus, a World Health Organization (WHO) scientist has said. There are fears that vaccine developers are moving too fast, and in doing so, compromising safety.

Western experts have raised concerns about the safety of a fast-track vaccine developed by Russia, named Sputnik V. Russia’s health minister said the third phase of clinical trials for that vaccine will begin on Wednesday.

Millions of children’s lives are being put at risk by disruptions to health services caused by the coronavirus pandemic, the United Nations has warned.

Globally, there have now been more than 27.6m cases of the virus and more than 898,000 deaths, according to the toll kept by Johns Hopkins University.

[Mr Quatro]

Amid rising cases globally, the US remains the hardest-hit by the pandemic. More than 6.3 million infections have been confirmed in the country, and nearly 190,000 virus-related deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University.

I wonder why? If it crossed the ocean via airplane passengers to old folks homes in Seattle and one cruise ship passenger in Southern California
then how in the heck did it cause so much more problems in the USA than it did in China?

Freedom of the people vs China being able to control the outbreak?

Something doesn't seem right and just thinking that China is lying is not a good answer either.

Proof with colleges opening and closing due to the free open life style of American's that like to party might be one answer.

The virus doesn't care who you are if you are available to carry it and share it.

[Jimbuna]

There are more countries than China hiding the true figures imho.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk4zKkNC6mU

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5OfP2_LisY

[Jimbuna]

Scientists and health professionals have raised doubts about Prime Minister Boris Johnson's "Operation Moonshot" plan for mass coronavirus testing - saying there are are issues with laboratory capacity for current tests.

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has announced the maximum size of social gatherings has been cut to six people - as in England from next week - but in Scotland, the six can be drawn from two households at most.

The number of people diagnosed with Covid-19 in England has risen by 43% in a week, latest community testing figures showed. Some 9,864 infections were confirmed in the seven days to 2 September.

Disruption to hospitals in England during the pandemic has meant the number of patients facing long waits for routine operations has soared, with more than two million people on the waiting list.

Conservative minister Jacob Rees-Mogg is self-isolating at home after one of his children showed symptoms of coronavirus.

[mapuc]

Yesterday the number of infected was 252
Today the number has gone up to 317

R0 is now 1.5..some weeks back it was 0.9.

This is in Denmark

Markus

[Jimbuna]

^ If only the UK could boast the same.

[mapuc]

And we shall wear face mask in public transportation only.

The majority of the infected is between 20 and 29 of age and live in areas of Copenhagen and Odense.

The rest of the infected is spread around the country.

The last two weeks the number of people in hospital has gone up from 15/16 to 35 whereof 5 is in ICU. The ICU was almost empty of Corona patient two to three weeks ago.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wJR_iwN7dc

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgOLm82hRkg

[Jimbuna]

Dr Anthony Fauci, the top infectious disease expert in the US, has told Americans they will need to “hunker down” through autumn and winter months.

French authorities are meeting on Friday to decide on toughening measures to combat the virus. France's confirmed cases jumped 9,843 on Thursday - the highest single-day count since the start of the outbreak.

Spain’s coronavirus surge continues, with more than 10,000 testing positive daily. And the French government is expected to announce further restrictions today after a record number of cases – nearly 10,000 – were announced on Thursday.

Surges are being reported elsewhere too: Ukraine hit a record high of 3,144 new infections on Friday, blamed on people defying the new hygiene rules; the figure in the Czech Republic on Thursday was also a record – 1,382.

India has registered the world's highest-ever number of daily cases: 96,000

The UK economy grew by 6.6% in July, but the country's output remains far below pre-pandemic levels.

British MPs are urging the government to extend its furlough scheme to support people unable to work.

The number of confirmed coronavirus cases worldwide has topped 28 million, with more than 900,000 deaths.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/nLt2Xhcn/9416cf43-a33f-4f46-8da5-95c37e00162a.jpg (https://postimg.cc/QF01PsTz)

[Skybird]

One chart to rate them all - the mask parade.



https://www.sciencealert.com/this-chart-shows-the-best-and-worst-face-masks-for-each-situation


https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2020-09/5f513b59e6ff30001d4e6ef2.png


Even just a simple Bandana cuts it by roughly 50%. This shows one thing about masks: there is no excuse to wear none.

[Jimbuna]

A further 3,539 people have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK, figures released by the Department of Health and Social Care show.

It is the sixth day in a row where daily cases have exceeded 2,000.

It takes the total number of UK cases to 361,677.

A further six deaths have been recorded in those who had a positive coronavirus test in the last 28 days. This takes the death toll by this criteria to 41,608.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4rogMS4EGc

[Buddahaid]

https://i.postimg.cc/nLt2Xhcn/9416cf43-a33f-4f46-8da5-95c37e00162a.jpg (https://postimg.cc/QF01PsTz)
I have no clue what that chart means without defining affect.

[Jimbuna]

I have no clue what that chart means without defining affect.

I'm sorry, should have added a detailed explanation from the article (which is no longer viewable as far as I can ascertain).

The graph/table was alluding to peoples finances and wellbeing.

[Jimbuna]

Trials of a Covid-19 vaccine being developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University will resume after it was paused due to a reported side effect in a patient in the UK.

On Tuesday, AstraZeneca said the studies were being paused while it investigated whether the reported side effect was connected with the vaccine.

But on Saturday, Oxford University said it had been deemed safe to continue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54132066

[mapuc]

197.728 Death in USA

Now it's only the American civil war and World War 2 who have cost more life.

Markus

[Platapus]

197.728 Death in USA

Now it's only the American civil war and World War 2 who have cost more life.

Markus


Other than for emotional uses, I don't think these are particularly valuable comparisons.


For 2017 deaths in the US



Heart disease: 647,457

Cancer: 599,108


We lose a lot more people due to just those two health issues than in wars.

[mapuc]

Other than for emotional uses, I don't think these are particularly valuable comparisons.


For 2017 deaths in the US



Heart disease: 647,457

Cancer: 599,108


We lose a lot more people due to just those two health issues than in wars.

Touché
I was narrow minded and saw only the figure for corona infection and not the most common cause of death in our western world.

Markus

[Skybird]

There is so much more in individsual fates regarding Covid-19 infections. People who did not die, but suffered and still ,suffer severe health conditions from it, and not few of them for the rest of their lives. Note that you can also later on catch post-covivd symptoms (generla exhaustiuon, nerous issues, unrest, migraine, but also organic damages for exmasple in the heart and otehr organs) although the infection was almost asymptomatic. We can and must also expect people dying years later due to having suffered from late consequences or lasting consequences of Covid-19 in the coming years. The calculated loss in life expectancy for males and females was earlier this year pblished to be 13 and 11 years (with age and previously existing health conditions calculated out). That was of course with the knowledge status of when that calculation was done, I think it was in May or June. Maybe that has dropped by now a bit, because we know more about how to treat Covid. Still, it is an important effect, no doubt.

Not talking about the US, its true a logic for every country.

I am very confident to say that the number of people being seriously affected in this wider understanding, already is in the two digit millions worldwide.

And the pandemic is still globally growing.



BTW, I got myself a UV-C sterilizer box. It has 12 LEDs at the bottom and 12 LEDs at the top, emits UV-C light in the wanted range of 260-280 nanometers, and has the size of a small shoe box or a small lady's beauty case. Now comes autumn and winter, ands I wanted it for mask sterilization, it can also be used of course for other items of interest: cellphone, remote controls and Tv pilot, mouse, telehones, wallet, credit cards. Please no pets. Very handy. If you get somehting like that, watch out for the good quality. Cheaper emitters means they lose efficiency earlier (while you will not notice it). Also, pick a bigger box size, so that the LEDs are distanced a bit from the surface of the item you treat. There are small and flat boxes for cellphones, in the especially bad models the phone lays directly on the LED and has those in the lid also laying right on it, that way the light cannot flood the case and the LEDs will only sterilise very small points right around the LED, not the whole surface. Be generous a bit in size. Small cases and lamps imo make little or no sense.

Also remember that this is no x-ray or microwave with the energy going through the matter - it is light, and evertyhing that is in the shadow (although the box'S inside is reflective), will not get cleaned.

UV-C like this is beign used in hospitals for item and (empty!) room sterilization, also in Asia in bus parks and for cleaning subway waggons and such, it is quite common in Asia. That rightly used it is effective, is beyond doubt, and proven. The method works by destroying the DNA of virus and bacteria, also small single-cellular bugs (or the upper layers of cells in your skin and retina, if you handle it stupidly) . Its also used in drink water sterilization. I know it from pencil-like small devices with a battery and a long, stencil like UV-C bulb that you stirr your cup of suspicious water with for 2 minutes or so.

The procedure in these boxes lasts around 3 minutes.

It is interesting now in the cold and wet season. I see a bigger risk now that repeatedly used FFP/N95 masks turn faster into breeding gadgets for bacteria from your exhale, i8t socld, its wet and foggy, and if not needed the amsk is ni longer hanging on my belt and dries easily, but is beign stoed away in a coat paockjet or case or bag, wehre it does not dry. Of course it also destroys the DNS in virus, too.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNji13yoW9g

[Jimbuna]

France has reported a record daily increase in coronavirus cases as the country struggles to contain a fresh surge in infections.
On Saturday health authorities said there were 10,561 new cases, rising by more than 1,000 from Friday's figures.
The numbers of people admitted to hospital and intensive care are also increasing.
A group of doctors have urged people to avoid private gatherings amid the fresh outbreak.
"After the joy of reuniting this summer, it's time to be careful in the private world," the doctors said in a column published in Le Journal du Dimanche on Sunday.
"The smaller a room, the more people it contains, the less airy it is, the more you increase the risks."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54137319

[Mr Quatro]

"The smaller a room, the more people it contains, the less airy it is, the more you increase the risks."

Like a popular bar, but not in an open air protest with mask on :hmmm:

They say that the motorcycle rally in North Dakota with men and women without mask could've spread the virus to as many as 225,000 more people when they went home. :o

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ7vPxWC-3Y

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNji13yoW9g


I rest my case.

P.S. As he said himself, the doses given in that official recommendation are extremely conservative. I burst in laughter when hearing it. 400-1000 IE? If you are deficient already, this daily dose will not get you started for many, many months to come if ever), since first the fat deports gets filled up before concentration in the blood starts to rise. But its the latter what makes the difference.

[Jimbuna]

Coronavirus: Beijing's back and forth lockdown,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-54034809

[Catfish]

Did not some Mr Xi Jinping announce his(!) "victory over the Wuhan virus" some weks ago? :hmmm:
You know how those efficient one-man-democracies with their elected leaders work, compared to the lazy democracies and EU with their unelected bureaucrats.. i also assume that there is no virus left in Russia thanks to Putin's vaccine by now.

[Jimbuna]

^ In this we are definitely in agreement :yep:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvKBeeQZw9o

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDT8q2qxgj0

[Skybird]

In cooperation of forensic-genetical experts from the universities of Münster and Kiel in Germany and Oxford in the UK, so-called "virus-hunters" claim they have traced back the real origin of Sars-CoV 2. They say the virus showed up earlier than the usual narration tells, early September, and it was not in Wuhan, but in the province of Guangdong, whichh holds a large bat population. The fish and wet market in Wuhand later served as a Katalysator only that sped things up.

[Jimbuna]

A report by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation says the pandemic has pushed global development back by more than 20 years. Tens of millions of people have been exposed to the threat of more poverty, inequality and disease, it says.

In the UK, a lack of coronavirus tests for NHS staff is leading to staff absences and services being put at risk, hospital bosses warn. It will take a "matter of weeks" to resolve the problems around testing in England, the health secretary has told the Commons.

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says she has spoken to UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock about the backlog in coronavirus testing and hopes to see an improvement in the next few days.

UK unemployment rate rises to its highest level for two years.

France introduces new restrictions in the areas around Marseille and Bordeaux.

Globally there have been more than 29 million confirmed cases of Covid-19 and 928,000 deaths, Johns Hopkins University data shows.

As daily numbers of new cases in the Czech Republic exceed 1,000, the Institute for Health Information and Statistics has warned that the R number has risen to 1.59, and there is a real threat that infections will spread exponentially.

Chinese authorities have introduced lockdown measures in the south-western city of Ruili after at least two coronavirus cases were identified.

South Africa’s Health Minister Dr Zweli Mkhize says new research estimates 12 million people - about 20% of the country’s population - could already have been infected with coronavirus.

[Skybird]

The Americnas may show to be unwilling to let Astra-Zeneca off the hook so easily. There is growign frustration and concenr aboiut that A-Z has not released details about the reasons that led it to interrupting vaccine trials earlier .



https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/15/health/covid-19-vaccine-trial-astrazeneca-nih-fda-kaiser/index.html

[vienna]

An interesting bit of a take on the US Covid-19 response in an unusual form:


'TOTALLY UNDER CONTROL' — a comic book about how Trump ignored science, planning, and his own team when the virus struck. And how 194,000 Americans paid the ultimate price. --

https://www.insider.com/comic-how-united-states-lost-control-of-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-9




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[Jimbuna]

I think the world is going to hear a lot about COVID and Trumps response to it for many years to come.

[mapuc]

We have a saying in Danish (Man skal høre meget før ørerne falder af)
=(one has to hear a lot before the ears fall off) I tried to find correct translation in my English Idioms-without any luck

Before I shut down my computer I went through my friends bulletin and comments

In a friends bulletin a friend of her wrote.

Something with
Our leader have created fear in the population by creating a fake virus. The goal should be that we shall take the vaccine, without any hesitation a vaccine who is not going to cure us from this fake Corona, but to kill us.

I respect people's expression/free speech, but I can not support such a statement.

It's truly incredible what people can spread of misinformation, conspiracy and other things on social media.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/g2RVTTNz/b36f2f4e-381a-433c-8709-5ad556ddc561.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
https://i.postimg.cc/mrsYfy5Q/66f36f58-f81f-46b0-bbfc-2e803058144a.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Skybird]

Mounting concern and warning of the Russian data for their Sputinik V vaccine. Looks as if the data was manipulalted and fabricated in parts.

https://cattiviscienziati.com/2020/09/07/note-of-concern/

Certain is that I will a.) accept a vaccine soone ror later, and that I will do so b.) rather later than sooner. And that is true for every vaccine they bring out next year, no matter whether Chinese, Russian American, British or German.

Think of it as Windows 10 updates: you do not want to rush beign the first gettig them, ending up as Microsoft's involuntary beta-tester for the mess they have released this month again.

There is way too much steam in the kettles of the vaccine-brewers. And the outlooks for billions-heavy profits is way too tempting.

I would like to see money forked off to do systemtic doble.blinded clinial trials with control groups on the issue of D3 and K2 dificiencies and their impact on the immune reaction. As Campbell says, that the WHO does not push for this borders negligence. I am not as modest and polite as he is. I would even call it slaughter by now.

You see, there is no profits in selling D3 and K2. But there are stellar treasuries to be conquered in selling expensive vaccines and drugs. If I would be asked to give an estimation, I would estimate that over one half of serious cases could be saved form becoing seriousnin the first. Thats my impression after half a year of various observations and reports I stumbled over this summer. Many lives could be saved, many more cases could be saved form turning from mild to serious.


Its time to get angry, even enraged about the denial by the officials and "authorties". Its not negligence anymore - not after this huge amount of feedback about the lnks between D3/K2, and Sars-Cov2 intensity. Its slaughter.

[Catfish]

Would have expected nothing else from the "Putin vaccine" :03:

And in the US there is money to be made (with patents, licenses and the like, guaranteed profit, not to forget Trump's trying to buy out a german company) and an election to win, nothing to do with help.
If a US vaccine comes out before the election, there are very good reasons not to take it..

[Jimbuna]

You simply couldn't make this up!!

Transport bosses in Greater Manchester have confirmed that a snake is not a valid face covering after a man boarded a bus with a live reptilian mask wrapped around his neck and face.

A passenger said she thought the man wearing a "funky mask" until she spotted it slithering.

The eyewitness, who asked to remain anonymous, said she found the incident "really funny", adding the animal did not seem to be bothering any of her fellow passengers.

A Transport for Greater Manchester spokesperson said that while there was a small degree of interpretation that can be applied to the rules concerning face coverings on public transport, "we do not believe it extends to the use of snakeskin - especially when still attached to the snake."
https://i.postimg.cc/xjPm8jGM/b94c3c16-134d-4420-a4dd-96b3dbe57792.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Unions and school leaders are urging the UK government to ensure teachers in England and Wales are given priority access to coronavirus tests.

The UK government will announce plans to prioritise the NHS and care homes for testing in the next few days.

Manchester's mayor warns time is running out to fix the testing system.

India passes 5m coronavirus cases amid a spike in infections as the government continues to lift restrictions. The virus appears to be spreading much faster in India than any other country, with more than 90,000 new cases a day.

US President Donald Trump has denied that he downplayed the seriousness of Covid-19, despite admitting in a recorded interview having done that.
Mr Trump repeated his claims that a vaccine could be ready "within weeks" despite scepticism from US health experts.

[Skybird]

In his own words, Trump "up-played" it, actually. Tells him his dwarfish memory at least.

[Skybird]

Wowh.


Vitamin D deficiency and co-morbidities in COVID-19 patients – A fatal relationship?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352364620300067?via%3Dihub


3. Conclusion
An inadequate supply of vitamin D has a variety of skeletal and non-skeletal effects. There is ample evidence that various non-communicable diseases (hypertension, diabetes, CVD, metabolic syndrome) are associated with low vitamin D plasma levels. These comorbidities, together with the often concomitant vitamin D deficiency, increase the risk of severe COVID-19 events. Much more attention should be paid to the importance of vitamin D status for the development and course of the disease. Particularly in the methods used to control the pandemic (lockdown), the skin's natural vitamin D synthesis is reduced when people have few opportunities to be exposed to the sun. The short half-lives of the vitamin therefore make an increasing vitamin D deficiency more likely. Specific dietary advice, moderate supplementation or fortified foods can help prevent this deficiency. In the event of hospitalisation, the status should be urgently reviewed and, if possible, improved.
In the meantime, 8 studies have started to test the effect of supplementing vitamin D in different dosages (up to 200,000 IU) on the course of the COVID-19 disease. The aim is to clarify whether supplementation with vitamin D in different dosages has an influence on the course of the disease or, in particular, on the immune response, or whether it can prevent the development of ARDS or thromboses [193].
The German government currently has nothing better to do than to intervene at the EU for limiting and cutting short the sales of Vitamines, and limiting the doses per pills to irrelevant levels, to make sure their lobby sponsors in the industry do not run out of Vitamine-deficient patients they can sell their expensive drugs to.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqZLMoLvhgk

[Jimbuna]

Prime Minister Boris Johnson told the Liaison Committee of MPs: "We are now testing more per head of population than France, Germany and Spain and conducting more tests than any other European country."

He’s right - according to data collected by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC), an EU agency.

For the week ending 30 August, the figures show:

UK - 19 tests per 1,000
France -13 tests per 1,000
Germany - 13 tests per 1,000
Spain - 12 tests per 1,000
A few countries in Europe rank higher than the UK on this measure though, including Denmark on 42 tests per 1,000.

When it comes to overall tests, as of 30 August, the UK had processed just over 15 million antigen tests (the tests which tell you whether you currently have coronavirus).

This total is higher than any other country in Europe, according to ECDC figures. Germany, for example, had processed 12.3 million tests by this date and France 7.4 million.

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqZLMoLvhgk
So I am in good company, it seems.

I am tempted to move up my dose, due to this input, but also some latest new things I red about Vit-D tolerances. And it seems I am heavier and have also more fat cells :) than the good doctor in America. He looks thinner, slightly shorter, than I am.

Maybe I am throwing in an additional 20 thousand per week, what would bring me to 8000 per day on average.

On a side note: I use to meet the dentist every 6-8 months. In the last third of this time period I tend to develope gum bleeding around the back teeth in the upper jaw. I always attributed this to the plaque and parodontitis building up there again after the last professional cleaning. Its like this since as long as I remember it.

But not this summer, not the last half of year (my next appointment with the dentist is in 3 weeks). Nothing. Its not bleeding at all. First time not bleeding since - well, 20 years, or more.

What has changed? My diet and my daily tooth cleaning procedures have not. But I flooded my body with Vit D3 for 6 weeks since February to fill up the fat cell depots, and since then have a signficantly higher maintnance dose (of 5000 IE) than the official recommendations, same about K2 (3x as much as the "authorities" recommend for a man of my weight and age). . THIS is what has changed.

If you look up the lists for symptoms of signficant deficiency of any of these two vitamines, you find gum bleeding on them.

Also, my high blood poressure has gone down by another 5-10 points. I take meds for that , but have eased them, since I already dropped by another 10 - 15 points earlier since I started to take Iod. I dropped my high blood pressure by around 20 points just by taking Vit-D3, K2, and Iod. These are known to influence blood pressure. I am almost too low now, although I have HALVED my blood pressure meds! I take some other supplements like Zinc, Selenium, Magnesium, Vit-C, Mangan, B-complex and E-complex as well, though at more moderate doses, but I think they have nothing to do with any of these health improvements.

There are many benefits of D3 and K2 supplementing, documented in studies often done in Japan and Korea since the early years of the last decade, its about calcium, bone density, osteoporosis and bone fractures. Its not just Covid 19 where you have a benefit, apparently, but in so many other aspects as well, some of which are gender-related, some of which are age-related. Its practically a no-brainer to supplement D3, K2, where need may be: magnesium, and Vitamine B. At advanced age beyond 40-50, you cannot compensate deficits there just by changing diet and habits alone, since your body declines in the ability to make use of diet's ingredients or to produce vitamines (D3) itself, too. At the age of around 60, your skin will produce only one quarter of Vitamine D from the sunlight you get, than it would have at the age of twenty. And nobody lives an ideal life under ideal health aspects anyway.

Do what you can with food and habits and life style. But dont be shy to use supplements as well. The one is not meant to replace the other, but to supplement each other.

[Mr Quatro]

So I am in good company, it seems.

I am tempted to move up my dose, due to this input, but also some latest new things I red about Vit-D tolerances. And it seems I am heavier and have also more fat cells :) than the good doctor in America. He looks thinner, slightly shorter, than I am.


How come we don't have any images of you Sky after all of these years on subsim? :hmmm:

[Skybird]

Psssst, Feind hört mit.

[Skybird]

Internal safety report by Astra Zeneca obtained by CNN. Sounds to me as if they downplayed it by declaring it "unknown". But now it is called confirmed transverse myelitis after the victim's second dose of the vaccine.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/17/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-trial-document/index.html


I am not against vaccination, not in case of Corona, not in other cases. But on this Corona crisis, there is way too much steam in the kettle, way too huge treasures to be won. That triggers motivational energy of a kind that I think is not welcomed. I don't fight to get closer to the top of the waiting list.



Wouldn'T that be ironic: I do what I do to keep clean of Corona, and I stay clean of Corona for sure so far, and then I get serious health issues from a voluntary vaccinating against Corona? No, thanks.

[Jimbuna]

How come we don't have any images of you Sky after all of these years on subsim? :hmmm:

I've one he sent me a couple of years back.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKQGC3xB/thtyjy.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

The World Health Organization warns of "a very serious situation unfolding" in Europe. It comes as cases exceed those seen at the peak of the pandemic in March.

New social restrictions are introduced for north-east England amid a spike of cases. The temporary measures include restrictions on households mixing and pubs closing earlier at night.

Turnaround times to get test results back are getting longer in England, figures show.

US President Donald Trump contradicts the head of the main health agency over vaccines and masks. Mr Trump says a vaccine would be available "immediately" - and not as late as mid-2021. He also denied Centers for Disease Control director Dr Robert Redfield's suggestion that masks could be more important than a vaccine.

There have been nearly 30 million confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the world, as well as more than 939,000 deaths.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZZN2hNJhEA

[Rockstar]

With vaccine trials patients don't know if they're getting a placebo or the real thing. Those that get the real thing have no clue as to the size of the dosage they receive. Some will get 'mega' doses and they're the ones that normally develop the side effects we hear about. However if it was a minimal dosage or the anticipated dosage amount and such a side effect happened. Then this particular vaccine might a wash. But until we know the details, which are normally classified until the trial is over, we really dont know what the outcome of the trial will be.

[Skybird]

I've one he sent me a couple of years back.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKQGC3xB/thtyjy.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Did you know that today all of a sudden your life expectancy has dropped considerably?




Okayokay, this one is one year old.

https://i.postimg.cc/xCMMGyMJ/IMG-20180706-180705.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Zufrieden? Kann ich jetzt wieder gehen?

[Rockstar]

Can someone please 'shop a mask on Skybird so he doesn't get arrested.

[mapuc]

The number of infected since yesterday was 453 The highest since Corona came to Denmark in the end of Feb. Where the first Danish person was infected from a trip outside Denmark.

The Danish government have introduced restrictions throughout the capital Copenhagen and in other major cities, such as Odense and Aarhus.

Such as the pub, café, restaurant and other places where people meet to have a beer or something to eat-They have to close at 10 pm(2200 hr)
When visiting one of these places facemask is a must-as long the person is standing.

Number of people allowed in groups are 50.

Here is something I don't get..
The Danish government has introduced restriction to prevent further spreading of this Virus-But this does not prevent a young man / woman from Copenhagen to take a trip to one of the other smaller neighboring towns.
Where pubs, café, restaurant is allowed to be open until 2400 hr or 0200 hr.

A person who may be infected unknowing or well knowing s/he is infected.

Facemask.

As mentioned before it is now mandatory to wear facemask or visir in public transportation...this should be to prevent this Corona to spread among passanger in case it's airborne.

When I take the bus to work or shopping, it happens that I see one or more of the other passengers use their facemask incorrectly or they use the same facemask several times. Some of the other passengers have told me that they reuse their surgical several times, as they do not have the money to use them correctly.

Secondly this facemask has given the Danes a false safety.
They think with mask on they can stay close to others and not use alcohol on they hands so often.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

A short period of tight restrictions across England is being considered to slow the spread of the virus.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock says UK faces "very serious situation" and does not rule out another lockdown.

Other European countries, including France and Spain, are also taking action as cases surge.

It comes as the WHO warns of "alarming rates of transmission" across Europe, with fears death rates will rise significantly.

Israel becomes the first country to start a second nationwide shutdown, with residents unable to stray far from their homes.

Australia will now let in 6,000 citizens a week - some 24,000 stranded Australians have been waiting to return home.

Confirmed cases worldwide pass 30 million, with more than 940,000 confirmed deaths of people who had Covid-19

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/PqKTTvDF/168232fd-82d9-44d3-b156-f505f53af9f0.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/k4pCtrfQ/d8ad49fe-ddc1-4d99-bc20-1565367db20e.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Skybird]

Funny that nobody has mentioned it, i read the first time that somebody, some doctor, said it on TV yesterday, although it should be obvious, but I did not had it coming to my mind, too: desinfect your mouths. You leave the house, you come home from town and enter your home: gets some suitable desinfactant and gargle . Habit formed like washing hands. A drink with high amount of alcohol, should already do (spit it out if you do not want to become an addcit :D ), so my guess would be cheap gas from the supermarket already would do the job: Rum with 60% or something like that). Or for a limited time period, chlorhexadrine or something dedicated like that. Anything that cracks open the hull of this hooded virus and so deactivates it when it sits on the upper part of your throat's mucosa. Dish-washing soap should work to, but I find the taste awful.

It should help to reduce the virus load, in case you caught something in your throat while beign out - or not?


Having zinc pills in your mouth, aims at a comparable thing.


And imagine the sight: mornign briefing in the corporation office, people start talking and a minute later the room sniffs like a saloon full of drunk cowboys... :haha:

[Mr Quatro]

Okayokay, this one is one year old.

https://i.postimg.cc/xCMMGyMJ/IMG-20180706-180705.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Zufrieden? Kann ich jetzt wieder gehen?

Is that really you Sky or is it a joke?

Looks too intelligent to be you :D

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMdSt6uicLk

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa3wHlqS2Vk

[Skybird]

Is that really you Sky or is it a joke?
Thats me for sure, in all my Shock & Awe. :03:

[Skybird]

Virucidal Efficacy of Different Oral Rinses Against Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/222/8/1289/5878067


We found that different SARS-CoV-2 strains can be efficiently inactivated with commercially available oral rinses under biologically relevant conditions mimicking respiratory secretions. In particular, we observed that 3 formulations (products C, E, and F) containing different active compounds significantly reduced viral infectivity to undetectable levels. In agreement with our observation, different studies using Listerine (product F) observed antiviral activities specifically against enveloped viruses, implying an impact on the viral lipid envelope [8–10]

That is nice, becasue the mentioned Listerine Cool Mint, whihh I assume under this or a different name is across in drugstores all across the West, is no chemical overkill agent like Chlorhexadrine and compaable rinses that you maybe get told to use after mouth and tooth surgery and which can cause problems after one-to two weeks becassue it is so aggressive. I for example am allergic to it.

New addition to hygienics protocol in my house: after coming home, not just washing my hands and putting mask, wallet and cellphone in the UVC cleaner - but also gargling. :D :salute: I use teeth rinses after brushign teeth twice a day, but will now add Listerine (becasue the one I use before did not ge tmentioned) additionally for the hoimecoming "washup". It just tastes waaayyyy too sweet...

Why did this not come to my mind earlier. Its so self-recommending, isn't it.

[Jimbuna]

Thats me for sure, in all my Shock & Awe. :03:

https://i.postimg.cc/C1115gSs/31d2ac3df1138091eb6227c7af3a65da.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYJOhIzCIxc

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/nrKcwckZ/114454800-cv-stats-18-09-v2-nc.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/wTVjXMMQ/BB195uDh.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Onkel Neal]

Did you know that today all of a sudden your life expectancy has dropped considerably?




Okayokay, this one is one year old.

Zufrieden? Kann ich jetzt wieder gehen?

You look like a member of the Justice League!

Man, too bad we didn't get to meet and talk when I was in Dusseldorf. Or Copenhagen, or Holland, etc.

[Aktungbby]

Is that really you Sky or is it a joke?

Looks too intelligent to be you :D

You look like a member of the Justice League!
https://i.postimg.cc/xCMMGyMJ/IMG-20180706-180705.jpg (https://postimages.org/)MEIN GOTT! He's still got that gleam in his eye!:O:https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11502
on the other hand....https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11504

[Skybird]

Who would have thought that my looks are so interesting a topic for people's conversation. :hmmm: Maybe I should wear an E.T. mask and a pink tutu to attract less attention... :D

[Catfish]

^ who is this utterly gentle and sympathetic man in the middle i wonder? :hmmm:

Aktung, you ... :rotfl2:

[Jimbuna]

Who would have thought that my looks are so interesting a topic for people's conversation. :hmmm: Maybe I should wear an E.T. mask and a pink tutu to attract less attention... :D

Either that or a long haired wig and you could pass yourself off as Julian Assange :hmmm:

[Aktungbby]

^ who is this utterly gentle and sympathetic man in the middle i wonder? :hmmm:

Aktung, you ... :rotfl2: ...once had a real gleam in my eye! ca: '78!!?? But then I'd been truckkin' all day in 110F. San Antonio Texas: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=815&pictureid=11506
Who would have thought that my looks are so interesting a topic for people's conversation. :hmmm: Maybe I should wear an E.T. mask and a pink tutu to attract less attention... :D You're givin' me....goosebumps BBY!https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uuuploads/the-tutu-project-bob-carey/the-tutu-project-bob-carey-1.jpg:arrgh!:

[Skybird]

I am in desperate need of a https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41evEaEcT5L._SY445_.jpg

[mapuc]

Who would have thought that my looks are so interesting a topic for people's conversation. :hmmm: Maybe I should wear an E.T. mask and a pink tutu to attract less attention... :D


I think it could be that your friends have created an inner picture of how you may look like, from following you here throughout the years.

And now when you posted a picture-some of you friends imaginary picture has been smashed.

Back to main discussion.

The number of infected here in Denmark has really gone skyhigh. Yesterday 454 was found infected among 26000 tested. Today 589 was found infected among same number tested.

Markus

[Rockstar]

We've recently had a very dramatic increase in confirmed COVID-19 cases in the county where I live. But that increase also coincided with the opening of several new drive thru test facilities. On a side note we've tested almost a third of our nation's population.


I wonder then if the increase of infections in Denmark is also due to an increase in testing capabilities.

[mapuc]

I wonder then if the increase of infections in Denmark is also due to an increase in testing capabilities.

It is. Around 26000 is tested each day while only some thousand was tested before summer. Here it was only people who was sent by their doctors who was tested..today a person just go to one of the test centers show their id and get a test. about 48 hrs later they get the result.

Markus

[Rockstar]

As we test more I think we're finding out this virus was making the rounds long before we knew of it's existence.

[mapuc]

Is neither a mathematician nor a doctor. It's just something with all the tests and the high number of infected that do not really match

Markus

[Mr Quatro]

Where's the data on how many test positive and don't get sick?

[Jimbuna]

We've recently had a very dramatic increase in confirmed COVID-19 cases in the county where I live. But that increase also coincided with the opening of several new drive thru test facilities. On a side note we've tested almost a third of our nation's population.


I wonder then if the increase of infections in Denmark is also due to an increase in testing capabilities.

As we test more I think we're finding out this virus was making the rounds long before we knew of it's existence.

That is the theory I am currently adhering to.

[Jimbuna]

Covid restrictions in England will get tougher if rules are not followed, Matt Hancock has warned, as the government introduces £10,000 fines for people who fail to self-isolate.

The health secretary told the BBC's Andrew Marr show the country was facing a "tipping point and we have a choice".

"If everybody follows the rules then we can avoid further national lockdown."

The prime minister is understood to be considering a ban on households mixing, and reducing opening hours for pubs.

Asked if England could face another national lockdown, Mr Hancock said: "I don't rule it out, I don't want to see it."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54221953

I used to rate this guy but over a period of the last few weeks I am beginning to realise why there are an increasing number of slights being used to describe his surname.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/T1BpxyDD/114493868-optimised-uk-daily-cases-with-ra-19sep-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/jnQsQSvx)

https://i.postimg.cc/c1zKwzbL/114493870-optimised-hospital-admissions-19sep-nc.png (https://postimg.cc/bdQNjmP7)

[Skybird]

Where's the data on how many test positive and don't get sick?
Probably where you let it down the last time it was brought up.

More interesting has become the data on people who were asymptomatically ill, got over the active disease phase without even noticing it, and two or three months later all of a sudden break down and have serious heart muscle infections, for example, that shredder certain cells in their heart muscle's tissue.



Worrying I find the news on growing signs of lasting brain damages.


Adds a new question mark to the relevance of using the terms "asymptomatic" and "recovered".

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBqQUrEZ4Q8

[Gerald]

Who would have thought that my looks are so interesting a topic for people's conversation. :hmmm: Maybe I should wear an E.T. mask and a pink tutu to attract less attention... :D It’s the perfect occasion for the wonderful Randy Newman song “YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR HAT ON, to become the anthem of a COVID19 world titled, “YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR MASK ON.“:D

[Skybird]

I. Won't. Dance. :hmph:

[Jimbuna]

The UK could be facing 50,000 new Covid-19 cases a day by mid-October, if the current infection rate is not halted.

Prof Chris Whitty, England's chief medical officer, and Sir Patrick Vallance, the UK's chief scientific adviser issued the warning.

Numbers are increasing among all age groups with the epidemic doubling roughly every seven days, they said at a briefing.

Parts of the Spanish capital Madrid are going into a tough new lockdown - more than 800,000 residents have been asked to stay at home.

India's Taj Mahal reopens after six months, its longest ever shutdown.

New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern removes all coronavirus restrictions except in the largest city Auckland.

The Emmy awards have been held virtually, with most winners dialling in to make speeches from home.

There have been 31 million confirmed Covid-19 cases worldwide, with more than 960,000 deaths.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/bY2QnGnS/c6f60c8e-83e0-49f4-be70-a9de36110396.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/WbGg9QX2/a2aa5725-5942-4830-ab64-4131f468a848.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/mDjKNdJV/5de3ef9b-aecb-470f-8b2c-716777d20dec.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/634GCS8x/13e2315d-23c0-43c0-b121-4a681eea9af1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/kGhZL2nb/d3220a62-73aa-4d78-8b60-196c19010cc6.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Skybird]

Time to sing the D-A-C-Zn-Se-Omega3-song again! :yeah:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG-YgiU7JtA

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/gJqq8BSJ/6904fe4b-2cdc-495e-bd05-e212c98c3a2c.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

An off topic-but a Corona related comment.

I wished that I through a spell became a professor of psychology, with at least 50 years of experience. Thereby it might be that I understod my friends and friends 'friends' posts about this Corona and the incumbent socialist government in Denmark.

Like why is it that a huge majority of my Right wing friends who is critical to the socialist government and a huge majority of those of my friends who support Trump, are among those who share doubtful and/or fake news about this Corona virus.

Just curious.

End of an off topic

Markus

[Gerald]

I. Won't. Dance. :hmph: Nor I.:yep:

[Jimbuna]

People subject to tighter coronavirus regulations will be allowed to look after children from other households.

The restrictions prohibit people in affected areas from meeting other households.

But after complaints from parents, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said people looking after children under 14 or vulnerable adults would be exempt.

The new exemption allows grandparents, for example, to look after their grandchildren.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54240681

One of Matt Hancocks finer moments imho. This means the wife can continue looking after our granddaughter three days a week.

[Jimbuna]

Boris Johnson is set to address MPs and the whole nation on further coronavirus restrictions for England.

English pubs must close at 22:00 from Thursday, he is expected to say.

People in England should work from home if they can, Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove says.

It comes a day after top scientist warned urgent action was needed to stem a spike in infections.

The US Centers for Disease Control withdraws advice on aerosol transmission
Cases in Mexico surpass 700,000 - Latin America is the worst hit region.

Hollywood unions reach a deal with studios on resuming production.

Over 31.2 million Covid-19 cases are confirmed worldwide, with more than 960,000 deaths.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kITwkuNhw8Q

[Rockstar]

I'll say it again, I really dont think new infections are on the rise or doubling. I think it's the number of people tested that is doubling everyday and we are simply finding out just how widespread the virus has already traveled.

[Skybird]

https://www.tierwelt.ch/sites/default/files/styles/og/public/images/shutterstock_strauss.jpg?itok=rfpVKY17

[Rockstar]

1. Is it the number of people going to the doctors because they feel sick and finding out they have COVID-19 that's on the rise? Then I would say say a second wave is possibly occurring.


2. Or is it the number of people being tested that has increased which caused the number of confirmed infections to rise?


Based on observations in my county I think it's #2. Since the outbreak we hovered around 16 confirmed infections a month. Those numbers relied on people going to the doctor with a complaint. Then two months ago the county opened several drive through testing facilities and the numbers skyrocketed to 80 + confirmed infections a month
Testing is free and drive thru makes it very convenient. I imagine many stopped by out of curiosity to find out if they are or were once infected.


Number of deaths in county remain the same since the out break.

[MGR1]

Here's another source of information for the UK peeps on the board:

https://www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker/

There's also another page specifically for Scotland:

https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/

Creators Twitter page:

https://twitter.com/TravellingTabby

Mike.

[Skybird]

The going of a pandemic and our perception of it basing on counting, are two different nthings, and a pandemci can grow worse while our counting relfects that, or gives a misleading impression about it.


But the hospitals are filling up over here, and a greater number of follow-on health issues gets reported.



So I think the pandemic runs worse again (thats why Israel, Spain, France, Britain and increasingly parts of Germany lock down again partially or completely). The pandemic can growe worse -while our counting intensifies as well and we test more. But we should not conclude from counting more on the pandemic easing.


Its a statistical effect only that you pay too much attention to, Rockstar. If you look closer you see more - thats a platitude.



If I remind on that much of the counted numbers indeed are not counts, but projections that fill up the counting done, so that we have no true counting numbers ever anyway and thus all of the published daily counting in all countries always has been wrong, necessarily so - would anyone conclude from that that the pandemic does not exist and is not real? Hardly.

[Buddahaid]

2. Or is it the number of people being tested that has increased which caused the number of confirmed infections to rise?

The percentage of people who test positive is about the same so yes increased testing is increasing the number of confirmed cases.

[Rockstar]

Sorry, I never meant to imply the pandemic doesn't exist. It does indeed. I was in my own feeble way just trying to say that as we increase testing we are finding numbers beyond our imagination. I think 13 million people fly out of Wuhan China to international destinations each year. IMO there is no way we could have know when this virus went global. With the increased testing all we are finding out is just how massive this spread was.

I think by the end of August Germany had tested a little over a tenth of its population and is hovering around 277,000 confirmed infections. I'd bet you a frosty Presidente beer if you increased the number of tested you'd find an increase in the number of people infected as well.


Numbers are going up because of increased testing and that media sensationalism of second waves and like garbage is a load crap.

[mapuc]

(it didn't help going from Chrome to IE11)

I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

Here's why.

Earlier today a Danish newspaper had a liveblog, where people could ask everything about Corona.

A female asked if it could be right what his elderly brothers doctors have told the family.

Her brother was tested positive for Corona and few days later he died in motorcycle accident.
Now you are thinking his death is in category over dead people in the traffic No he isn't his death is in the Corona statistic.

The answer she got was-yes it's correct this is they way the do it...
So whatever the death cause may be..if a person is Corona positiv it will be the cause of death.

As said don't know if I should laugh or cry when I read about it.

Markus

[skidman]

Markus,

I don't know the rules in Denmark, but in Germany someone who tested positive is put under quarantine (= not allowed to go biking) for at least 10 days and has to take a second test. If the second test is negative, he is officially classified as "recovered". A person that has recovered from COVID19 and dies does not show up in the corona statistics.

[Skybird]

Sorry, I never meant to imply the pandemic doesn't exist. It does indeed. I was in my own feeble way just trying to say that as we increase testing we are finding numbers beyond our imagination. I think 13 million people fly out of Wuhan China to international destinations each year. IMO there is no way we could have know when this virus went global. With the increased testing all we are finding out is just how massive this spread was.

I think by the end of August Germany had tested a little over a tenth of its population and is hovering around 277,000 confirmed infections. I'd bet you a frosty Presidente beer if you increased the number of tested you'd find an increase in the number of people infected as well.


Numbers are going up because of increased testing and that media sensationalism of second waves and like garbage is a load crap.Oh, I have understood what you meant. But I do not buy it. You declare a poure statistcla effect to defione reality. But the numbers seem to go up in reality, and not just due to c utning, at lasg over here. Moree people flood i8nto thew hospitals again. Why do you think Israel has gone in a seocnd pcokdown, Britian threatsn to poartially lockdown and for the coming 6 moinths, France has bigger problems now than 4 weeks ago and 4 weeks before that, Spain is having iussues, Germany locally is seriously consideirng lockdowns?



On a saide note, the US passes beyond 200,000 kills today, btw. Sad landmark number. Not bad for a pandemic of which Donald just months ago claimed it would not claim more than just some 60 thousand.



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For the first time ever I saw it that a German mainstream media, online (it was the FOCUS) thius evebing had a top headline on a link about Vitamine D-deficiency and severity of the desease in cas eof ifneciton. Of course not without also the usual unqualified RKI bull comment that warns about how dangerous it is to take Vitamine D and how dangerous it is to overdose and blablabla, but still - a first. FOCUS referred to the Hohenfels study from earlier this summer, so they were late a bit, but at least they brought the story, finally. Usually the anti-supplementation propaganda that we shoud, stick tom our worthless salads is the only thing that gets reported.

[Skybird]

https://www.grassrootshealth.net/


Check it out. Randsom find of mine since I just learned that two of the leading German vitamine experts are engaged there as well.


To get a first estimated idea - not more, not less - of how to tackle your Vitamine D:


https://www.grassrootshealth.net/?post_projects=dcalculator


Note you can/must choose whether or not you know your current level. The desired range is usually given by most experts in the range of 40-60 ng/ml. Don't be shy. There speaks nothing against wanting the 60 ng/ml.

[Moonlight]

^I'd sooner go out in a bleeding meadow and munch on the grass before I give any cash to those money making sharks. :O:

[Skybird]

^I'd sooner go out in a bleeding meadow and munch on the grass before I give any cash to those money making sharks. :O:
:03: https://www.grassrootshealth.net/grassrootshealth-receives-humanitarian-award-american-college-nutrition/

[Skybird]

Andreas Unterberger (Austria) writes: Three dramas worsten the Corona crisis


It has become a common truism: Austria, Europe and the world have plunged into the greatest economic crisis since the end of the world war. While we are therefore anxiously looking at the latest infection figures every day, we are hardly aware of three central developments that are making this crisis even more threatening.

The first is the fact that in almost no country in Europe or in the EU are people at the top who have personal economic experience or such training. If they had that, they wouldn't be so grossly negligent and careless tossing around two, three, even four-digit billions in total, which they conjure up like a rabbit out of their hat. If they had, then they would have agreed the necessary compromises on Brexit at the latest in the corona shock - regardless of interests in detail, pride and power games.

The second is the knowledge that in history absolutely every economic crisis (including those of a smaller dimension) has led to major social and societal upheavals. It is difficult to predict what exactly these faults will look like. In any case, the rule of law, democracy, prosperity and the livelihoods of millions of Europeans will suffer severe damage.

The third is the painful fact that overcoming this economic, social and societal crisis, with all its collateral damage, will finally become impossible if Europe should at the same time intensify the fight against global warming, which, above all for the Greens, is the main threat to the economic crisis has been appointed.

It is already absolutely certain that the green climate war - which is only waged in Europe! - In the medium term, many more people in Europe will lose their jobs and the basis of their livelihoods than the Corona crisis. The already visible effects in the auto industry alone and thus also in all suppliers are enormous and permanently destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs. Many more will disappear if the central demand of the climate activists is to be realized, that is, much higher energy prices. Almost all of this will drive industry out of Europe to countries without a "climate policy". This will therefore have zero impact on the climate, but catastrophic impact on Europe.
https://www.andreas-unterberger.at/2020/09/drei-dramen-verschlimmern-die-corona-krise/

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/Ssm8dP4X/120017984-10222708334433203-2728348936441914611-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKn5l6p6vk4

[Jimbuna]

UK PM Boris Johnson has urged people to observe the new coronavirus restrictions announced on Tuesday.

The measures in England and Wales include a 22:00 curfew for pubs and, in Scotland, a ban on households mixing.

The PM warned that the government would go further if the measures were ignored.

A day after Prime Minister Boris Johnson addressed the nation about new coronavirus measures to avoid a second national lockdown, the leader of the opposition will have a chance to respond. Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer will give his "right of reply" at 20:00 BST on BBC One tonight.

Hundreds of students in Dundee have been told to self-isolate following a suspected outbreak in a halls of residence.

US President Donald Trump has described the 200,000 US deaths from coronavirus as “a shame” Speaking at the UN General Assembly, President Trump blamed China for the spread of Covid-19

The latest figures collated by Johns Hopkins University show there have been at least 970,000 deaths from the virus worldwide.

[Jimbuna]

The Isles of Scilly have had their first positive Covid-19 test results. The islands, 28 miles (45km) off Cornwall, had not recorded any cases before Tuesday. The Council of the Isles of Scilly said it had been "informed by public health of positive test results" but it is not known how many cases there have been.

As part of its latest measures to reduce the spread of the virus, Wales is asking people not to travel unless necessary. First Minister Mark Drakeford said that meant visitors from England should avoid travel to Wales unless it was for work or "other important purposes".

Scotland is at "a tipping point" in tackling coronavirus and is taking "tough action" now to avoid a longer period of restrictions later, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said.

Austria’s VSV consumer association launches a class action lawsuit today on behalf of 6,000 ski tourists who say they caught Covid-19 at Ischgl and other Alpine resorts in late February and early March. Lawyer Alexander Klauser said that “had they been warned. they would not have come to Austria”.

Spain has reported 241 more deaths in 24 hours – the highest number since 6 May – and 10,799 new infections.

France has seen 10,008 new cases in the past 24 hours, and new measures are expected later for Paris in particular.

Eyes in Belgium are on this morning’s security council meeting where the country's unpopular five-person social bubble, in place since July, is likely to be relaxed. They’ve been looking at a colour-coded system for each province which would depend on hospital admissions.

With 4.5 million cases and more than 138,000 fatalities from Covid-19, Brazil is the second worst-hit country in the world in terms of deaths. On Tuesday it recorded 33,536 infections and 836 deaths. Despite this Brazil's government has said football stadiums can open their doors to fans - at 30% capacity at first but that could increase. In Rio de Janeiro's Maracanã stadium that would mean 25,000 people in the stands.

Kenyan families will now be able to play active roles in the burial of loved ones who have died from Covid-19 after the authorities relaxed restrictions. Previously families watched from a distance as health officials in full protective gear took over burials.

Israel recorded 6,861 new coronavirus infections on Tuesday - another record high in the country.

Muslims will once again be able to visit the holy city of Mecca for the Umrah pilgrimage, Saudi authorities have announced, seven months after it was suspended because of the pandemic.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deBEJHy8LN0

[mapuc]

I had a chat with my elder sister and she said whatever the cause of death is, if the victim was tested positive within in 30 days after the Corona test-The person count as a Corona victim.

This is how they do it.

For me it sounds like we can't rely on these daily Corona death rapport.

Markus

[Catfish]

^ It rightly counts as infected, not as victim. And this is handeled this way everywhere.

[mapuc]

^ It rightly counts as infected, not as victim. And this is handeled this way everywhere.

Thank you..When I write a comment it's more common than normal i forget a word or how to write a word.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

The UK could be the first country in the world to carry out Covid "challenge trials" - where healthy volunteers are deliberately infected with coronavirus to test possible vaccines.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54275096

Well that's a definite 'NO' from me then.

[Jimbuna]

Chancellor Rishi Sunak announces a new Job Support Scheme, starting in November.

It replaces the 'furlough scheme' and means the government will pay part of workers' wages who have lost hours.

The cut in VAT to 5% for the hospitality and tourism sector will be extended until 31 March.

Firms that took government loans during the crisis will have longer to pay them back.

Firms that deferred their VAT bill will no longer have to pay a lump sum in March.

About 2,500 students at a Swiss hospitality school have been placed in quarantine after a major outbreak following private parties.

Canada has announced an ambitious plan to create jobs and invest billions on healthcare, housing and childcare following the fallout from Covid.

Face masks are no longer mandatory on public transport in most of New Zealand as infections continue to drop.

[Mr Quatro]

About 2,500 students at a Swiss hospitality school have been placed in quarantine after a major outbreak following private parties.

See the obvious implications of this?

School, plus a party = outbreak of the virus :hmmm:

This corona thingy doesn't care who you are or what country you are from :o

It simply loves to multiply it's problems to you :yep:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ5SUsDSxpY

[Jimbuna]

The UK government has announced another 6,634 Covid-19 cases - that's an increase on Wednesday's figure, which was 6,178. They also said a further 40 people had died within 28 days of testing positive for Covid-19. That's up from 37 deaths announced on Wednesday.

People coming to England from Denmark, Iceland, Slovakia, and Curacao must now self-isolate for 14 days.

Europe is at a "decisive moment" with countries on the brink of national lockdowns, EU health official warns.

US President Donald Trump has said a move by the FDA to introduce stricter guidelines for coronavirus vaccines was "political"

This week, the coronavirus death toll surpassed 200,000 in the US, the highest number of fatalities in the world.

Another 870,000 Americans applied for unemployment benefits last week, as employers continue to lay off workers.

Iran's virus death toll has passed 25,000 as the country, the worst affected in the Middle East, sees a spike in cases.

Canada has announced an ambitious plan to create jobs and invest billions on healthcare, housing and childcare following the fallout from Covid.

[August]

About 2,500 students at a Swiss hospitality school have been placed in quarantine after a major outbreak following private parties.


So they locked up 2500 people because a few of them got sick, maybe at a party or maybe somewhere else?

[Buddahaid]

Apparently. This virus can be beat but it takes drastic steps like that for what, another six months minimum? Yes, it's not nice, but let's get it beat first and then party. Short attention spans, instant gratification addicts and the like, are only making things worse than they need to be. If the world had really locked down collectively it would have been over by now, Trump would be a hero, etc.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3zC26JOgNw

[Jimbuna]

Industries hit hard by the pandemic in the UK are facing further uncertainty with the government's new jobs scheme.

Hospitality, events and retail workers and businesses have expressed concern over job losses.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak said employees must be in "viable" jobs to benefit from the wage top-up scheme.

This means people working in industries currently closed, such as nightclubs, may lose out.

European health officials say further restrictions may be needed to curb a sharp rise in infections.

New, stricter rules are due to come into force later as Israel enters its second week of lockdown.

In hard-hit Brazil, the 2021 edition of the world-famous Rio carnival parade has been postponed indefinitely.

The number of daily infections in India has declined, with 86,052 new cases announced on Friday. According to the Associated Press news agency, the number of recoveries has overtaken daily infections this week. India has the second-highest number of infections in the world, with more than 5.8 million cases, but it is expected to overtake the US within the coming weeks. More than 92,000 deaths have also been recorded since the pandemic began.

Authorities in the Russian capital Moscow have told the elderly and people with chronic illnesses to remain at home from Monday amid a spike in cases. Mayor Sergei Sobyanin also recommended that as many people as possible work from home. More than 7,200 new cases were recorded in Russia on Friday, the highest figure since June. The country has seen more than 1.1 million cases and almost 20,000 deaths since the pandemic began, and there are fears of a new wave of infections.

More than 32 million virus cases have been confirmed globally with almost 983,000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University.

[Skybird]

A henna party (Turkish pre-wedding party) with 46 women in the German town of Hamm has had dratsic consequences, because two of the women were Corona-infected. Now over 2800 people had to be quarantined. The city'S official are super-angry abpotu the ignorrance and mull the maximum of legal sanctions and also have filed lawsuits for fincial compensations.

The town already was under stricter Corona rules due to its infeciton rate beign over the criticla treshhold mark already before the 46 Turkish women imagined that they were not meant by that or had special rights that made them untouchable for the laws.

The infection rate in Hamm meanwhile has climbed by a factor of almost 1.5 . The people of Hamm say Thank you! The mayor is foaming, newspaper describe him as being "stinkwütend".

Its events like this why I think oif you have quarantine rule sin place, you have to enforce them by cdraconig pentlies in cas eof violation. Else it makes no sense.
Parties of a few people repeatedly have been the origin of huge infeciton numbers as a ncosnequence sove rhere. recently a female form the US stayiong ion Germany went partying although she was given and knew she had a Corona diagnosis. She now awaits a lawfile, and possibly could face prison and a bill of several thousand Euros.

There is no right to physical assault.

[Mr Quatro]

In hard-hit Brazil, the 2021 edition of the world-famous Rio carnival parade has been postponed indefinitely.

This must have been a very hard decision, but the right one :yep:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXVwkQ8qCCo

[Jimbuna]

A further 6,874 UK Covid-19 cases have been reported in the last 24 hours, with 34 deaths but the government says this does not including Scotland due to a power outage at National Records of Scotland.

New restrictions are announced in Leeds, where the city council reported a "steep rise" in infections on Thursday.

Two of Wales' biggest cities - Cardiff and Swansea - will go into lockdown from 18:00 BST on Sunday.

London is at a "very worrying tipping point" amid a resurgence of Covid-19, the mayor has warned.

In Madrid, over a million people will be under local lockdown restrictions from Monday as curbs are extended.

More than 32 million virus cases have been confirmed globally with nearly 984,000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University.

[Gerald]

https://i.imgur.com/igGDuJ8.mp4

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxL5IOyto4M

[Jimbuna]

More than a quarter of the UK population is set to be under coronavirus lockdown rules, as new measures come into force this weekend.

From Saturday in England, households in Leeds, Wigan, Stockport and Blackpool will be banned from mixing in each other's homes or gardens.

In Wales, Llanelli will be subject to new rules from 18:00 BST, with Cardiff and Swansea following 24 hours later.

It comes as the rate at which the virus is spreading appears to be speeding up.

The R number - which indicates how many people someone with coronavirus infects - has risen in the last week and now stands at 1.2 to 1.5. A number above 1 means the virus is spreading within the community.

Meanwhile, the daily number of confirmed Covid-19 cases in the UK reached a record high of 6,874, government figures on Friday showed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54304659

[skidman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxL5IOyto4M

The level of noncompliance is absolutely shocking. And from my real life experience I have to agree to the assumption that similar figures can be expected at least in GER/BEL/NED as well.

[Gerald]

Plastic bubbles were set up on the sidewalk next to Café du Soleil in New York City to protect customers from the spread of COVID-19 and shelter diners from cold and rain.

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/space-bubbles-offer-safety-at-nyc-restau-idOVCX700A3?chan=4ywvfzus

:o

[Mr Quatro]

Meanwhile, the daily number of confirmed Covid-19 cases in the UK reached a record high of 6,874, government figures on Friday showed.

You know what Mr Corona said to Mrs Corona, "People love us, because they love to sin (party)" :D

[Rockstar]

Florida's Governor Lifts All COVID-19 Restrictions On Businesses Statewide

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/09/25/916969969/floridas-governor-lifts-all-covid-19-restrictions-on-businesses-statewide

[Jimbuna]

The level of noncompliance is absolutely shocking. And from my real life experience I have to agree to the assumption that similar figures can be expected at least in GER/BEL/NED as well.

Agreed :yep:

You know what Mr Corona said to Mrs Corona, "People love us, because they love to sin (party)" :D

I'm beginning to find it a little depressing tbh. I was at the local supermarket earlier with the wife and found myself getting a little aeriated towards people who were not covering their nose or in some cases their mouth with said masks and the wife reminded me in no uncertain manner that I was no longer an LEO and if I couldn't restrain myself I should go and wait in the car outside :oops:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWCjj34j_Rg

[Jimbuna]

Police have clashed with demonstrators at a rally in London protesting the latest coronavirus restrictions.

Police officers used batons to control the crowd, after bottles and water were thrown by demonstrators massed in Trafalgar Square.

At least three protesters and one officer were treated by medical staff.

The Met Police said the protest was being shut down because the crowd was not complying with social distancing rules and warned fines would be issued.

Thousands had gathered in central London to protest against the latest government rules, with very few wearing masks.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54309603

Hopefully this is not the beginning of something much bigger but I suspect it may well be.

[mapuc]

I have tried to search for this specific information on Facemask in general.

A few days ago i ran into a comment where someone wrote.

(from memory)

The government is playing tricks with you, these facemask is nothing than false safety. The holes in these mask is 30 nm wide, while the Corona virus is 10 nm wide..yes the corona has no problem passing through the bigger hole in the facemask.

He didn't mentioned any specific mask.

What size does different mask have where air can get through ?

Is it 30 nm wide on these surgical mask ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

N99 and N95 masks are rated best with disposable surgical masks coming a close second.

[mapuc]

N99 and N95 masks are rated best with disposable surgical masks coming a close second.

Thank you...now I only need confirmation on the size of the holes in these mask and if the size of the Corona virus is 10 nm.

Beside, A friend posted this some hrs ago on his wall

Used translate
"The citizens of Denmark seems gradually divided ..... Some are calling for tougher restrictions and closure, others are against restrictions and do not trust the authorities.
Some is running around acting like little Corona cops, while others just shrug their shoulders and take it easy.
Some believe the whole thing is a great worldwide lie, which should lead to a great totalitarian state.

Personally, I am just confused, and see the Corona debate from many angles.
How do we get on from where we are now ?"


Markus

[Jimbuna]

The way I see it is if you are able to breath in air whilst wearing a mask and knowing that air always travels the path of least resistance it is therefore totally down to the filtration used.

[Skybird]

What can you do?

1. Breathing air hygiene.
2. Hand and contact surfaces hygiene.
3. Social hygiene.
4. Immune system.

Some facts on seasonal flu vaccination. Its a lottery. Every year the sly guys meet and throw dice to determine which mix of viruses will return next season. Accordingly they mix their vaccine. If the dice were friendly, 30-40% of those vaccinated people who later meet the seasonal virus gang benefit from vaccination - the others will not benefit from the vaccination! If the dice were unfriendly, only 20-25% of the vaccinated people meeting the seasonal virus gang benefit from having got a shot. The older you are, the less vaccination you get, to avoid dangerous paradox effects that can increase the severity of an infection. People over 60 or so sometimes get a vaccination including only 25% of the strength a young person would get. So, not jjust the generla vaccination quality of a seaosn variesl but its effivcnecy also varies from person to person. And it is far from giving a protection to any majority, no matter how you define it. Its just one of severla possibilities and chances to tackle the virus of the season - and not different you should think of it: its a chance, not a certainty.

This only to put things into perspective. I am NOT against vaccination in general. I only dislike the many faulty narrations and wrong expectations raised. A vaccination against corona virusses is tricky ( we sitll have the flu, haven't we, and the cold) , and it is just a relief. No 100% fail safe solution.

So get your backs up your chairs, guys, and start boosting your immune system: mainly by stop eating industrial waste and instead healthy stuff giving you all the vitamines, minerals, amino acids, essential fat acids, and all that in generous numbers, and then there is so much more that usually gets not mentioned. Stop eating that junk food, drinking that fructose poison, white wheat products, sugar, and instead eat only few fruits, but plenty of vegetables. Use good oils, natural fats, and use good oils and naturla fats plenty. Use supplements, they are a blessing. I heard of an already olders tudy some time ago that showed that field fruits and vegetables and corns in the past 20 or 30 years, depending on the region where the smaple came form, have lost up to 90% (!!!) of their former orioginal nutrition value and content. Reasons are criminal pölant seed cultures that got designed to serve instrial and commercial needs, but not the eater's needs, and the destruction of the microbiome and the reduction of mineral content of fields and soils. You can eat very healthy thigns only - and still will have many deifcits. You cannot eat as good anymore as you need to get fully supplied, the time needed and volumes of things needed, are utopic. A very famous exmaple is Selen, which in European farming soils is almost nonexistent by now.

Remember always: 50% of 100 is more than 100% of nothing: the second best option or choice still is better than a first option or choice never made. Be very moderate with red meat. Choose fat fish often.

Much talked about salt is not relevant for cardiovascular problems, that is a big misunderstanding, not the salt is what raises blood pressure and causes cardiovascular disease, but the waste food you use it on: industrially processed food of inferior or no nutrition value, bad fats, sugar, and so forth. Our forefathers, before the age of the refrigerator, consumed salt in quantities of up to 200 gr - PER DAY, it was omnipresent since it was the onyl way to store meat, for example. Two hundred grams, you read that right. At the end of WWII, that already was dramatically down to low two digit numbers, and when the war ended, the refrigerator went on crusade through American households, in those roughly ten years, the consummation of salt dropped by another 50%. And blood pressure and cardiovascular probems went high into the sky in the same time. It was not the salt! Two thirds of people btw are totally unsensitive with their blood pressure to changing salt consummation. And in Korea, they found the so called Korea-paradoxon: the more salt the Koreans eat (and they eat plenty of it!), the lower their blood pressure is,. That is becasue they eat that salt not on pommes frites and pizza and potatoe chips, but with plenty of vegetable, and healthy fermented stuff. The more sauces and salt they eat, the more vegetable they eat, that means. The vegetable brings down blood system issues. The salt has no effect. The average effect of reducing salt in food habits in the West produces blood pressure effects in less than one third of people, by not more than 1-2 mmHg, that is nothing. And some of these people even react to reducing salt by increaisng blood pressure by up to 5mmHg. But as I said, two third of peope do not reatc to chnagign salt at all. I know of two doctors who teold me (and my father) that they have at least as many patients whose problems come from too less salt as they have patients whose problems they associate with having too much salt (if that is possible, even many doctors do not know all these things). And then there is this stupid mode of people drinking water like crazy, washing their intestines and muscles clean and empty of mineral salts all day long. Oh my. Better watch for gettign good salt, free of fluor and cyanid. You read that right, industrial salt for the most uses natriumferrocyanid to keep salt dry. The cyanid may be bound to the ferro molecule, but evidence is mountign that it nevertheless slowly accumulates in the body. You do not want it, like you do not want free fluor. But what do you expect from an insutry that twenty years ago mixed pig blood into chocolate because that way it could sell it instead of throwing the surplus away.

Think of it, in what contexts people suffer severe problems with Corona: Deficits in nutriotiuon vlaues, namely Vitmaine D. Care facilities (with usually horrible food of low value). The Ancient greek said: your food shall be your medicine. And that is valid advise until today! What we clal food, when it comes form insuitrail porocessing, if junk, waste, garbage. It may be a Nahrungsmittel by providing carbon nhydrates (and more of that than is healthy for us), but it is no Lebensmittel. There is the word life (Leben) in the latter, you notice.

The immune system is like a wall with towers around a city, the city is you, and the wall and the cannons mounted on the top is the immune system. With years passing, weather and other things cause erosion. The cannons rot and rust, some get stolen, others fall off the wall. That'S the effect of age: the immune system looses its former total strenght, and it never regaisn it. Now, if you secure a good supply in iron bullets and black powder, and have it stored weather-safe nearby to every cannon, and have the cannons well-oiled on the outside so that rain cannot harm them, then this is what you can do to keep what you still have of your immune system in best shape possible. You do not raise the numbers of cannons ever again - but you make sure that those still there can and will fire reliably if need be. Thats what you can do.

Again, even if it flies out of your ears by now: The most relevant substances to supplement to boost the immune system quickly, are

Vitamine D3, A and C, and you also need Magnesium, Zinc, Selen and Omega 3 and with it EPA and DHA. And in HIGH DOSES, not the nonsense the WHO and others are talkign about. They should arm their advisors with machine psitols and send them into hospitals, so that they can shoot the patients in their beds, that would be more honest and transparent than recommending to not take supplements or only minimal doses, both acchievein g the same effect like a bullet to the hea,d just in slow motion. Practically all recommended doses are the absolute, total MINIMA regarding preventing some serious deficit syndrome of the past. For Vit-C the national health authorities usually recommend to not take more than just the minimum that merely avoids the symptoms of Scurvy. For Vit-D they base their dose on what is sufficient for a baby not older than 2 years. But and adult may weight 20, 30 times more, and the dose would need to reflect that, else the Vit-D just dissapears in the fat depots AND DOES NOTHING!

My current inputs:
~ 8000 IE Vitamine D3, due to my currently slightly raised weight).
5000 IE vitamine A
2 gr (no mg: gr!) Vitamine C
500 mg Magnesium
30-60 mg Zinc (depends on whether I leave the house and more than once a day, or stay at home)
220 mcg Selen
4.4 gr Omega 3
~ 2,8 gr EPA
~ 1.8 gr DHA, the last three all in "fish oil" that in fact tastes like lemon arome

I take some more things currently, but I do not want to scare you.

"They" will try to scare you, however, by pointing out that taking such doses of Vitamine-C gives you kidney stones, and that your liver is at risk, and the Magnesium will shoot your kidneys down. BS! Such claims base on not understood consequences of not balancing effects of for example Vit-D3 on Calcium and Kalium, for that you NEED Magnesium, and many are Magnesium deficient even if not taking D3, so if oyu tak ehigh doses of D3 but no Magnsium, you are in for trouble, yes. Iod, you need only 200mcg, they say. Yes, if you only care for your thyroid, then 200mcg is sufficient, but we need Iod for much more, and our deficit most likely is to be measured not in micro- but in milligrams! And so forth. Single cases of patients misdiagnosed or having abused supplements get endlessly brought up as "evidence" for how dangerous this and that thing is, and you should just take the minimums claimed safe - so safe that they do not more than just supplying the body of a little baby, and avoid the most dramatic symptoms of deficiency diseases. Ha...! BS!! They all to often base on inadequate examples for illustration that are several decades old!

Never forget the pharmaceutical industry does not want healthy people, because healthy people do not buy expensive drugs and medicine. The health system in fact is a system that makes people sick, keeps them sick, milks coins form them while they are sick, and if they are healthy it tells them until they beleive it that they are sick nevertheless. Its a criminal system, rotten to the bone, and estimations for how many people it murders every year reach into the high hundreds of thousands and into the millions - per nation.

Its up to you to not believe them anymore, or obey their profit interests. You can win your health. You will pay with your health. I do not talk about drugs or artifical things here - I talk about NUTRITION substances! Things our forefathers ate with their common food won from nature.

Think independently, boosting the general health of people, kicking azz of the lobbies, boosting the individual immune systems, that is the way to tackle this crisis. Vaccination will add its part, yes, it will help. But only of limited range, like flu vaccinations. If your immune system is strong enough to deal with the infection, than you have less reason to worry about it. So bring it back into shape, its a nobrainer, isnt it!

But, you see - with vitamines and micro nutrition sustances the pharmaceutical industry cannot make the billions of profts they aim at with vaccines and drugs and medications, so they will not tell you about this option. And so we continue to breed a generation of unbelievably round rolling fat balls with arms and legs popping out of them, and empty the waste bins onto the eating plates of our children, and we will not think about why diabetes now even strikes at 15 year old and coronar heart diseases hits children already and students get strokes, and numbers of diabetes is exploding. Just some decades ago these deseases only hit the very old ones! We eat SH!T, and the Sh!t turns our bodies into Sh!t as well. We are, very literally, sh!t accumulators, due to our lousy food quality. Put sh1t into the box, and sh!t comes out of it, but some sh!t gets stored inside of it, and the total volume of sh!t in it grows by this ammount - and it goes like this year for year and for year! That simple it is in principle. Supplements are just a tool to compensate for the main deficits in our "food" and in a quick fashion, in this, they are of value, at least better than nothing. But its not just about eating better things, and the right things, but to also no longer eat the wrong things. And thats where the industry turns into your worst enemy.

Fat does not make you fat - BAD fat makes you fat. Bad oils. Sugar makes you fat. Too much fruits make you fat (!). Corn sirup makes you fat. Soft drinks make you fat. Sweetners maybe make you not fat (not certain), but they make you dumb (Aspartam, Phenylalanin). And what is the Western world filled up with today? Fat stupid people, even fat stupid children already. Even the babies are too fat more and more often. Pregnancy has turned into a crime scene, because mothers do not know how their bad living manners affect the fate of their children years later. See the link, get the message? No? Gosh, i wish I could strike you with a meteor then.

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Wear N95 or N99 (=FFP2 and FFP3) masks without valves. Run social distancing. Wash your hands often. Eat healthy, the so-called mediterranean diat is excellent: plenty of vegetable, few meat only, very good oil, but such oil aplenty, few sweet fruits only, few carbon hydrates. Very limited side dish (potatoe, rice, pasta, its all just calories and carbin hydartes,a nd most people today work while sitting on a chair...). No cereals, their value may be lesser than we previously thought, and they cna fire back becasue we are in princople their predators and the yhave chmeical wepaons to fight us off - and often we can feel that. Vegetable: mix red, green and yellow, they all are different , like blue and red berries. There is nothign in wrong in occasionally eating only vegetable for lunch, no side dishes at all. I dfo it quite often now. Fat fish is good, Omega 3 is good, the more the better.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp8MPwgX-u8

[Skybird]

Bullseye!



https://www.welt.de/debatte/kommentare/article216691112/Freizeit-Corona-wird-unser-Verhalten-fuer-immer-veraendern.html


Corona will change our leisure time behavior forever


In lockdown we got used to spending more time in private - without concerts, without yoga groups, without going to church, without shopping, without long-distance travel. It is quite possible that we will forego many of these activities even after the pandemic.

The Metropolitan Opera in New York is the premier opera house in the United States. It is largely financed by patrons, fans, and people who are not only rich, but also proud to do something creative with this money. Years ago, the author stood in front of the house as a student and complained about the unpleasantly high ticket prices. Then a gentleman, who had apparently been waiting there for music lovers with a tight budget, came up to him and asked which category it should be. A glowing thank you was enough for him. The evening was saved.

How will this benefactor be doing right now? And all of the others. How will he have received the news that the New York Music Temple will not only be closed until December 2020, but will not reopen until October 2021. Because of Corona. The Met apparently does not want to work under the current conditions. Maybe she is even too fine for that? Will the patron, will all the others who have been involved over the years be able to save their passion over time? Or will they get the feeling that it can be done without, without opera. Far-fetched? Not at all.

The example of the Met is an extreme one. But it stands for a trend that can be grasped with the term Attentism. So people wait until a situation is cleared up before they get involved, interested, and picked up. That is understandable behavior. Anyone who has broken a leg waits for it to heal before putting real weight on it again. But you can hardly do without getting around, but you can do without a lot of other things.

In the Corona crisis, political communication declared those who stay at home, who do not go out, who do not socialize as a “better citizen”. Isn't it possible without the Skat round, the regulars' table, without the Philharmonic subscription? Without going to church on Sundays? Isn't it possible without the night in the club? Without visiting relatives at Easter?

Isn't it possible without new clothes for every season, without training in the swimming pool, without traveling? Wouldn't it be possible without the yoga group, the ballet lessons for the kids, without the mother-child group? Isn't it possible without folk festivals, strong beer tapping, without carnival, without, without, without ... It works. And the longer Corona lasts, the easier it is without all of this.

In the process, cause and effect become decoupled over time. What was initially perceived as a sacrifice soon gets the label of supposedly beneficial deceleration and becomes a habit itself. It's not only the fearful who talk like this for a long time. Especially the busy, the committed, speak of their former regular activities, of their old habits, of their social engagement now suddenly as "leisure stress". You begin to mentally sort out more and more. Above all, those institutions and social groups that rely on voluntary participation will have a problem.

Politicians, but also experts and the social institutions affected assume that people would of course come back after the crisis. That afterwards life, consumption, attention and activity, yes, everything literally explodes. But is that necessarily the case? This is countered by the fact that the pandemic will not suddenly be over, at best it will sneak away.
Spanish flu was soon forgotten

The serene draw the comparison to the Spanish flu. You associate it with the hope of a quick revival of all areas of life. But history does not repeat itself. Back then, in the early 20s, the pandemic with tens of millions of deaths worldwide was followed by the frenzy of the Roaring Twenties. But the people weren't just out of the pandemic - which they got through without many restrictions and was soon forgotten. You came from a world war, experienced a revolution in Germany, coup attempts, inflation, hunger, deprivation.



People in 1920 certainly did not complain of leisure stress. The pandemic did not hit them in a moment of greatest satiety like their descendants a hundred years later. Back then, giving up some of their habits didn't seem like a purge cure to people.

People won't just come back like that. For many, the “new normal” will remain their normal. When deciding which term is suitable for the unword of the year, this unspeakable expression can claim a top position. Institutions and politics should work on ideas and concepts now to keep people or to win them back. At least to get her attention again. Waiting for the end of Corona is extremely risky. It is not just about securing the livelihood of social areas, it is also about the glue that holds a society together.

It is remarkable how many state-funded institutions in the cultural sector, for example, simply did nothing in the past few months in order not to be forgotten. Behind this is probably the assumption that government aid will prevent the worst anyway. But that's brief. A theater that will be visited by a few people again in 2021 may still be closed in 2023 due to insufficient reception.

Some private music clubs have struggled to organize outdoor events. But many theaters have simply removed chairs and waited. How can it be that a state house like the huge Bode Museum in Berlin is closed until October 3rd? Since March. The churches will also have to make an effort. You have to approach people, otherwise they will be even emptier than they were before the crisis.

The fight for the waiting people begins now. Some have recognized that. Low-cost airlines, for example, are currently pursuing a fairly aggressive marketing strategy. An airline even gave away some of its flights these days. While this is a blatant example, it is a powerful effort to be remembered and perhaps get a few people to book a flight.

Whoever flies today will also do so in two years. In many cases, it will not be enough to be fooled into believing that people will soon be craving for variety again. When Corona is over, time will be a more valuable resource for many people than it was before the crisis. You will think twice about who to give them to.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyNg2ECu16Q

[mapuc]

Bullseye!



https://www.welt.de/debatte/kommentare/article216691112/Freizeit-Corona-wird-unser-Verhalten-fuer-immer-veraendern.html


Corona will change our leisure time behavior forever


[I]In lockdown we got used to spending more time in private - without concerts, without yoga groups, without going to church, without shopping, without long-distance travel. It is quite possible that we will forego many of these activities even after the pandemic.

In the Corona crisis, political communication declared those who stay at home, who do not go out, who do not socialize as a “better citizen”. Isn't it possible without the Skat round, the regulars' table, without the Philharmonic subscription? Without going to church on Sundays? Isn't it possible without the night in the club? Without visiting relatives at Easter?

Isn't it possible without new clothes for every season, without training in the swimming pool, without traveling? Wouldn't it be possible without the yoga group, the ballet lessons for the kids, without the mother-child group? Isn't it possible without folk festivals, strong beer tapping, without carnival, without, without, without ... It works. And the longer Corona lasts, the easier it is without all of this.


Politicians, but also experts and the social institutions affected assume that people would of course come back after the crisis. That afterwards life, consumption, attention and activity, yes, everything literally explodes. But is that necessarily the case? This is countered by the fact that the pandemic will not suddenly be over, at best it will sneak away.
Spanish flu was soon forgotten

I have removed some of you interesting text-The rest is what I see most interesting due to my type of living...

I'm so total anti-social all these thing mentioned and a lot more is something I don't do..

To many people around me, more than 1+1 is way too many for me and i leave.

Little off topic
Secondly, which doesn't exactly have something to do with Corona, It has something to do with selfishness.

In my mind there's no doubt the author of this article does live a life where these things is used or his/her friends wife/husband use
And therefore in their selfishness they think that everyone else life the same type of life.
End of off topic.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

The world's coronavirus death toll nears one million, with the US, Brazil and India making up nearly half of the total, according to Johns Hopkins University.

But the number is likely to be much higher as testing rates in many countries remain low, with virus-related deaths not being recorded.

It comes nearly 10 months after news began to emerge about mysterious cases of viral pneumonia in Wuhan, China.

More than 33 million cases have been confirmed around the world, Johns Hopkins says.

The UK has seen nearly 42,000 deaths, and cases have been rising by an average of more than 5,500 a day.

Nearly two-thirds of Wales' population will be under lockdown when new restrictions are imposed in three more areas from 18:00 BST

The mayor of Greater Manchester has called for an "urgent review" of the 22:00 curfew for pubs and restaurants, saying it is "doing more harm than good"

Curbs on movement are being extended to cover one million people in the Spanish capital, Madrid, and its surrounding areas.

[Jimbuna]

Alcohol will no longer be sold in Parliament after 22:00, officials have announced, amid a row over the revelation that bars and restaurants used by MPs and Lords were exempt from the coronavirus restrictions.

Germany's government sees the growing number of coronavirus infections as highly worrying, Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman has said, adding that the country would not allow the virus to spread exponentially again.

"The development of infection numbers is of great concern to us," spokesman Steffen Seibert said. "We can see from some of our European friends where that could lead."

Earlier, German tabloid Bild reported that Merkel told her party's senior members that numbers could reach 19,200 per day by Christmas if current trends continue. Germany is currently seeing around 2,000 new cases per day.

While Germany has recorded more than 286,000 coronavirus cases so far, its death toll of 9,465 is far lower than figures seen in other major European countries, including the UK, France and Spain.

In Spain more than 31,000 people are confirmed to have died with the virus since the pandemic reached Spain, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.

Mexico currently has the world's fourth-highest number of coronavirus fatalities, with 76,430 deaths. The country has also registered more than 730,000 cases, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.

The worst affected country in Europe is Russia, with more than 1.1 million recorded cases. On Monday authorities there reported 8,135 new cases in the past 24 hours, compared with 7,867 cases on Sunday. In total the country has recorded only around 20,000 deaths, but critics say the government is under-reporting the true toll.

[Skybird]

Little off topic
Secondly, which doesn't exactly have something to do with Corona, It has something to do with selfishness.

In my mind there's no doubt the author of this article does live a life where these things is used or his/her friends wife/husband use
And therefore in their selfishness they think that everyone else life the same type of life.
End of off topic.

Selfishness? I cannot follow you. Maybe a wrong word that you picked? You mean he suffices for himself? Because I do not see in how far I am "selfish" if not attending a concert or visiting a bar or going to a restaurant. In fact I almost never do these things, like you I prefer to stay absent from crowd events and masses, I simply do not like it. In German, we differ between the words "asozial" and "unsozial", I am the latter, but English unfortunately does not seem to allow this differentiation, Google translator says it both is "anti-social". The bar owner may not get my money, but am I obligated to visit his bar (although I do not care for visiting bars) just to generate him an income? I would reject that. Its his business, his business model, his offer designed to attract people. Its his part to design this all in a way so that he attracts enough customers to keep him afloat, but nobody has any obligation to like his offer. And if too many do not loike it, his business model was a bad one. He either adapts it to the different demand, or he disappears from the market.

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqpIpHezTnY

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

The National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) has confirmed officers are being told not to install the NHS Covid-19 app on their work smartphones.
The app detects when users have been in proximity to someone with the virus.
Some officers have also been told they may not need to obey self-isolate alerts generated by the app when downloaded to their personal phones.
Lancashire Constabulary has told staff to call the force's own Covid-19 helpline instead.
The BBC contacted the North-West of England force after a source said the advice had been given because of "security reasons".
The source also said officers had been told not to carry their personal phones while on duty if they had activated the app.
This applies to staff working in public-facing roles as well as those in back-office positions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54328644

This reeks of "Do as we say and not as we do"

[Jimbuna]

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[Jimbuna]

The world's coronavirus death toll crosses one million, with the US, Brazil and India making up nearly half of the total, according to Johns Hopkins University.

The UN secretary general calls it a "mind-numbing" figure and "an agonising milestone"

But the number is likely to be much higher as testing rates in many countries remain low, with virus-related deaths not being recorded.

More than 33 million cases have been confirmed around the world, Johns Hopkins University says.

The UK government reported 4,044 new cases on Monday, the third day in a row the daily total has fallen.

Covid and the measures associated with it are putting the UK's health service under stress, its bosses warn.

The WHO agrees a deal to provide a test that can diagnose Covid-19 in minutes to low- and middle-income countries.

The Netherlands introduces new curbs, including working from home where possible, and limits on groups.

[Jimbuna]

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[Catfish]

uh-uh.. seems the name of this thread is right, and it goes even further.

"Covid-19 "genetically engineered to target humans"
Li-Meng Yan and her team of researchers published a 26-page document laying out how Covid-19 could have been developed artificially in Chinese labs."

https://en.as.com/en/2020/09/15/latest_news/1600196698_232755.html

Link to original document, further south on the site:
https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X2EspxBKiUn


Again, "..could have been developed artificially in a laboratory". So, all smoke and mirrors?
Who to believe when everyone has an agenda..

[Skybird]

The following describes the medicla situation in Germany exclusively. The text was created in an interview with the chief infectiologist of a clinic in Munich, he is also head of the national task force on lethal infectous diseases and was the first doctor in Germany who treated Covid 19 patients when the pandemic had reached Germany early this year.
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No symptoms, a harmless feeling in the throat or life-threatening pneumonia: the range of disease processes triggered by the coronavirus is immense. Infectiologist Clemens Wendtner explains what helps when - and how good the corona therapy is after nine months.

Incidence, reproduction rate, exponential growth: since the beginning of the pandemic, we have adapted terms to our vocabulary that were previously foreign to ordinary people. Many people now speak naturally about the clinical classification of the various corona courses.

However, very few people know what it actually means to suffer a mild, moderate or severe course and what the respective therapy looks like. FOCUS Online has asked the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) and the Munich chief physician Clemens Wendtner.

What characterizes the different courses?

Asymptomatic course: We speak of an asymptomatic course of the disease if there are no signs of disease despite corona infection. This is especially the case with young and otherwise healthy people. It is difficult to say how many infections are asymptomatic - because those who do not develop any symptoms usually cannot be tested. They are therefore usually left out of the case statistics.

The unknowingly infected thus correspond to the so-called dark figure. Epidemiologists estimate them differently: While the Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research (MPI) assumes in a study that 1.8 times as many people across Germany have been infected with the virus than previously known, antibodies have Studies by the RKI, at least for the ex-corona hotspots Bad Feilnbach in Bavaria and Kupferzell in Baden-Württemberg, show significantly higher numbers of unreported cases. Accordingly, the number of those actually infected exceeds the number of cases reported so far by 2.6 or 3.9 times.

However, these numbers should not be extrapolated to the entire country, warns the RKI. A nationwide study is necessary for this - which has not yet existed.

1) Mild or mild course: Most people who have been shown to have tested positive develop a mild to moderate course of Covid-19. According to the RKI, this applies to around 81 percent of confirmed cases in Germany. If the course is mild, those affected usually show flu-like symptoms; primarily cough and fever. In addition, there may be muscle pain or headache, sore throat, runny nose, general exhaustion or tiredness as well as the loss of the sense of smell and taste.

2) Medium or moderate course: Anyone who develops pneumonia as a result of the Sars-CoV-2 infection is rated by the RKI as a case with a moderate course - if the pneumonia is so mild that the person does not have to go to hospital.

3) Severe course: According to the RKI, infected people are considered to be severe cases that doctors have to treat in the clinic because of or with their infection. According to the RKI, this corresponds to around 14 percent of the reported cases in this country. In addition to diffuse flu symptoms, they usually suffer from severe pneumonia, have difficulty breathing and their blood oxygen saturation is reduced.

4) Critical course: This includes the Covid 19 patients treated in the intensive care unit and the people who die with or from Corona. They usually have to be mechanically ventilated; multi-organ failure is possible. About five percent get so seriously ill. The mortality rate of Covid 19 intensive care patients in Germany is around 30 percent.
How does the treatment differ for the variously severe courses?

If a corona infection is mild to moderate, the body usually gets the virus under control itself within a few days. Meanwhile, pain relievers or cough suppressants may help relieve symptoms. There is still no drug specifically effective against Sars-CoV-2.

A medication package is usually used for the more severe courses - the worse the patient is, the more extensive it is, explains Clemens Wendtner, infectiologist and chief physician at Munich Clinic Schwabing. The "severe" courses that have to be treated in the hospital can therefore again be subdivided into mild, moderate and difficult.

A mild course then means a patient who tested positive and comes to the clinic with a high fever, severe respiratory problems and a slight need for oxygen (oxygen saturation> 94 percent). The initial therapy is then:

Oxygen through the nasal cannula; the oxygen content of the blood is measured using a clip on the finger.
Vitamin D3: Studies have shown that the sun vitamin can have a beneficial effect on the course of Covid-19.
low-dose heparin, i.e. a prophylactic dose of a blood thinner to prevent blood clots (thrombi) from forming. Studies show that Covid-19 can severely disrupt blood clotting. As a result, lumps often form, which can lead to dangerous vascular occlusions. This should be prevented by diluting the blood.

If the oxygen saturation falls well below 94 percent, clinicians speak of a moderate course. Often, severe pneumonia is added to the symptoms. For therapy this means:

significantly more oxygen; Artificial ventilation from outside may already be necessary.
Vitamin D3
high-dose heparin that is supposed to completely inhibit blood clotting. "This increases the risk of internal bleeding, but we have to take this risk," explains Wendtner. The otherwise threatened consequential damage caused by potential vascular occlusions, for example in the heart or brain, which can lead to a heart attack or stroke, is assessed by doctors as more serious.
Ex-Ebola drug Remdesivir: It is supposed to block the virus from multiplying in the body. However, it is only able to do this in the so-called viral phase, i.e. up to about the tenth day after the onset of symptoms, says Wendtner. As things stand today, the remedy no longer helps patients who come to the clinic afterwards; the damage to the organism has then already happened, the mere reduction of the viral load is no longer decisive for the further course. “After the tenth day, it's too late for remdesivir, so to speak. We do not have sufficient data that it will have a positive effect on the corona process. "
In addition, some in-patient patients receive an antibiotic at this stage because they have contracted a pneumococcal infection in addition to the corona infection.

If the oxygen saturation is less than 90 percent, doctors also speak of a severe course in the cases treated in hospital.

In the final stage of today's corona therapy, so to speak, they then use the corticosteroid dexamethasone. Studies from England, for example, have shown that the drug, which has so far been used in the treatment of allergies and autoimmune diseases, can help prevent an excessive - and in the worst case fatal - immune reaction of the body.

Head physician Wendtner calls the therapy options available to date for Covid-19 expandable. “With today's resources, we can help about fifty percent of the patients treated in hospitals. But if we look at the mortality rate of Covid intensive care patients, viewed worldwide it is still 40 to 50 percent. ”In Germany it is around 30 percent, in some clinics it is 20 percent. “That means that every fifth intensive care patient with corona still dies. Of course that is not satisfactory. "

Wendtner therefore advocates continuing to work consistently in drug research in addition to intensive vaccine development. "That is the reason why so many clinics are taking part in studies."


https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/news/verlauf-von-covid-19-leicht-mittel-schwer-chefarzt-erklaert-welche-therapie-corona-patienten-brauchen_id_12482085.html

[Skybird]

uh-uh.. seems the name of this thread is right, and it goes even further.

"Covid-19 "genetically engineered to target humans"
Li-Meng Yan and her team of researchers published a 26-page document laying out how Covid-19 could have been developed artificially in Chinese labs."

https://en.as.com/en/2020/09/15/latest_news/1600196698_232755.html

Link to original document, further south on the site:
https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X2EspxBKiUn


Again, "..could have been developed artificially in a laboratory". So, all smoke and mirrors?
Who to believe when everyone has an agenda..
You may have noticed German media, namely Die Welt, covering the story of virus hunters tracing the virus back to a province different from Wuhan (Guandong is the name, I think), famous for its huge and exotic bat population, and that the virus was brought up there long before it reached the Wuhan wet market from where its spreading accelerated.

[Catfish]

^ the link is from mid-september 2020, and (quote):
"The receptor binding motif of SARS CoV-2 ppike cannot be born from nature
and should have been created through genetic engineering"

[Jimbuna]

uh-uh.. seems the name of this thread is right, and it goes even further.

"Covid-19 "genetically engineered to target humans"
Li-Meng Yan and her team of researchers published a 26-page document laying out how Covid-19 could have been developed artificially in Chinese labs."

https://en.as.com/en/2020/09/15/latest_news/1600196698_232755.html

Link to original document, further south on the site:
https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X2EspxBKiUn


Again, "..could have been developed artificially in a laboratory". So, all smoke and mirrors?
Who to believe when everyone has an agenda..

That has been rumoured since the early days of it spreading but for some reason or other the theory wasn't pursued for very long by the media.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaqXwOJSRWc

[Jimbuna]

The UK announces 7,143 new cases and 71 more Covid-related deaths. The cases are a daily record since mass testing began - but experts believe the figure was much higher in the Spring.

PM Boris Johnson apologises for "misspeaking" about new virus rules in north-east England.

Meanwhile, Education Secretary Gavin Williamson assures university students they will be able to go home at Christmas.

New York City introduces fines for people who refuse to wear masks.

The Spanish government is extending its Covid furlough scheme until the end of January, after reaching a deal with union bosses and employers.

The Czech Republic says it's going to declare a new state of emergency, potentially within days, as cases surge.

The US is just over a month away from its presidential election, and tonight incumbent Donald Trump will face challenger Joe Biden in the first of three debates. Mr Biden will want to focus heavily on President Trump’s handling of the pandemic, and the gap between what Donald Trump told the journalist Bob Woodward – that he had deliberately downplayed the risk of the virus – and what he told the American people.

Officials in Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia, are preparing a burial site that will have 6,000 additional graves for people who've died of Covid-19.
Indonesia has the highest virus death toll in South East Asia, and is currently dealing with another surge in deaths. It has now had more than 280,000 reported infections, and more than 10,000 deaths.
The country has recorded more than 4,000 new cases of the virus each day for almost 10 days, despite limited testing.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/fb1X0P64/6d46f766-6163-4e12-97b0-fe051b9351db.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

One million people have died worldwide from the coronavirus, just 10 months since it was first spotted in the Chinese city of Wuhan. More than half of all those confirmed dead come from the top five countries by death toll.

The US has recorded more than 205,000 deaths and over 7 million infections. Cases are once again rising; on average the country is reporting around 45,000 new cases each day. US President Donald Trump has repeatedly downplayed the risks of the virus, and critics accuse him of mishandling the pandemic

Brazil’s President Jair Bolsonaro has also dismissed the threat of the virus, even after catching it himself. The country is second by death toll worldwide, with a tally of more than 142,000

With more than 96,000 deaths, India has reported the third highest toll. But critics fear the government is under-counting the true numbers, as cases rise by tens of thousands daily – the country soared from five million to more than six million infections in a matter of days.

Mexico has recorded more than 76,000 deaths. Its authorities have already reopened much of its economy despite recording more than 700,000 infections – although the health ministry said the true number of cases is unknown due to limited testing.

And the country with the fifth highest death toll is the UK. Daily infection numbers have shot up in September, from a few hundred to several thousand per day. The government is imposing strict lockdown conditions in different parts of the country in a bid to combat the spread and to stop daily deaths from rising again.

[skidman]

Link to original document, further south on the site:
https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X2EspxBKiUn


Even for a reader with limited knowledge of molecular genetics of viruses and the spike protein of Sars-Cov2 there are some flaws in the reasoning of this (pre-print) paper. The most important: A natural recombination event within one or both possible hosts, bats and pangolins, simply can not be ruled out. The authors claim the specificity against humans supports the idea of parts of the SARS (1) virus being transferred in the lab to "produce" the new virus, but this specificity does not exists. We have seen the new virus crossing the species barrier, infecting felines, dogs, minks and other animals.


Again, "..could have been developed artificially in a laboratory". So, all smoke and mirrors?
Who to believe when everyone has an agenda..

Good question: Lets have a look at the authors' agenda:

The -erm- "Rule of Law Foundation":

https://rolfoundation.org/en/

The first author:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Meng_Yan

And the other authors:

https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=B5bKQ8kAAAAJ&hl=en
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=NQJ-vcwAAAAJ&hl=de
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=IqRaBjsAAAAJ&hl=en

No further questions your honor :03:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tauuYG8qpyc

[Jimbuna]

The prime minister apologised on Tuesday for failing to clarify new coronavirus restrictions in NE England.

A group of senior MPs has said introducing any new restrictions "would not be acceptable" without Parliament's approval.

Mr Johnson will host a press conference later with Prof Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance.

The PM will address a major UN conference on biodiversity later this evening.

In an unusually emotional address, Chancellor Angela Merkel urged Germans to "continue acting patiently" Germany has announced measures to limit the size of gatherings and fine those who break tracking rules.

Belgium's coronavirus death toll passes 10,000, while over 117,000 people have been infected.

Donald Trump and rival Joe Biden clash over vaccines and masks during a chaotic debate.

New York City has announced it will fine people who refuse to wear face masks or coverings.

The world has seen more than 33.6m coronavirus cases and 1m deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University

[Platapus]

We need to recognize that there is more to COVID-19 than a dichotomous state of dead/alive. I fear that there are too many people who just look at the odds of dying and consider the threat of COVID-19 to be low, and once avoided, there are no further concerns with COVID-19.

A co-worker of mine, my boss actually, was in the hospital for COVID-19. This was a few weeks ago. Messed him up pretty good but he "recovered" and was sent home.

Now he was back in the ER for what we understand to be swelling of the meninges (membranes that contain the brain). This can result in death, paralysis, or brain damage. Even if he "recovers" from this swelling, it may lead to other health issues.

By the way, he just turned 40 this year and is in pretty good physical condition. Old people like me may be the ones dying, but younger people are getting messed up by COVID.

This is why COVID needs to be taken seriously. It is much more than a rolling of the dice to avoid a 1-3% chance of dying. It can start a chain of health issues, some may be long lasting.

Recovery from COVID is a nebulous term. "not dying" is only part of the issue.

Mine is but one story among a million. But we have a good man in a hospital. He probably won't die, but he probably won't fully recover either.

Wear your masks, take the precautions, keep the social distancing.

We can't eliminate the risk, but we can mitigate it and all that is necessary is a little discomfort and inconvenience.

[Skybird]

^ Amen to that, that is what I have tried many times to bring to attention. As hard as it sounds, the numbers of dead always have concerned me the least, we know that the death rate is relatively low, at least in Germany (under 1% or so). Its the late-Covid syndromes, and the many so-called moderate cases that need to see hospitals from inside. The so-called recovered but not really recovered people. The long term health issues, some of wich haunt the surivivors for months, and will in case of some issues haunt them for the rest of their lives. The nuzmber sof these are higher than published, so much is clear, but we have nio trustwortyh statistics on how the number out exactly.

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We still do not know what virusses are, and why tey are there, what function they have in nature, but I follow this theory that while the human genome includes 8% of virus material (!) , virusses maybe are a way of the cells themselves to communicate with each other if they sit in different organisms, to transport pieces of information from the cells forming one mega culture (called organism) to another, with the purpose of mxing up the genome. Again: 8% of the human genome has been identified to be virus fragments - without that, we could and would not even exist as a species. To 8%, we are, genetically, virusses ourselves!

There is a strange expectation, and almost everybody, especially politicians, seem to fall victim to it, that is: once we have a vaccine , it all will be soon over, and the world and our lives will return to a normal mode that is a picking up with the old ways that we have left behind early this year. I think that is an illusion.

First, any vaccine will take time to spread, and we know not much about these vaccines, some of them, of the RNA-type, are totally knew, and their implications can easily show to be extremely unpleasant, even threatenign to the whole population. I explain afterwards, why.

Second, the willingness to get vaccinated, varies in different parts of the world, and even inside countries, some political powers openly agitate against them completely.

Third, experiences with vaccines for other, earlier Corona virus desease lead us to the conclusion that this new one maybe will not be much different and provide only time-limited immunity.

Fourth, the new vaccines get developed with much steam and pressure in the kettle. The huge jackpots that are at stake, motivate everybody to bypass proven security timetables and measures, or to hide unwanted side-effects. I listend to a lecture last week where the speaker - a virologist himself - pointed to the study group at Oxford, and he pointed out that there was an issue with their trials that almost nobody reported or took note of. During early trials in I think July, one quarter of their volunteers formed swallen lymphotic knots, severe headaches, nerve pains, and breathing problems after the shot, and had to be treated intensively. This was never reported in the media. The continuation of the trial was such that BEFORE the vaccination was applied, the subjects got very high doses of paracetamol. That is a serious methodological failure - but it is claimed that the trial runs nice and well and nothing went wrong, and the Brits claim that until today! No, this is not the way how you do it, sorry. I may be a medical layman, but I know a bit about methodology itself, and this is not how it is to be done. And there is another methodological problem: with those relatively low death numbers and low numbers of seriously ill cases, a validation of the risks of any vaccination will take more time than just one year, because there are not sufficient serious cases who could be tested for effect and risk against a control group. Thats why the dvelopement of vaccines usually takes many years. But in this case of Corona it all should not be like this anymore? - There is too much steam in the kettle, and the ways to a vaccination get dangerously short-cut, I fear. Thats why I am absolutely not in a hurry to get it. Not at all. If ever at all.For myself, I see no need.



I also remind of Astra Zeneca palying down a problem with one test person that mad ethems topping the tgrial for days. It later was revelaed by investugative research that in fact the perso formed a I think progressive myelitis caused by the vaccine. That is extremely painful, I think it means the myelin coating covering the neurons and that is broken up in frequent intervals and by this increasing the speed of electric potentials racing down that neuron, is breakign up completely, leaving the neuron uncovered. Now, that is not just a unplesant nuisnace anymore - that is damn serious. Its painful, and can cripple, even kill you, if memory does not fool me ( I learned about this in physiology 25 year ago.. :) )


Now, the RNA vaccination. Its a very new vaccination type that was never done before. Why is it unpredictable and why do I say it is risky? Because of this: the immune system has a memory, like a library where it notes down what infecitons and germs it already has met and what battle plan worked on them and so it knows about the Who and How. Certain killer cells of the immune system react to remains of proteins fabricated inside infected cells that a virus has taken over. The killer cells identify an infected cell by these remaining "wastes", and then know "Oh, there is a cell that has this waste, it is infected, lets move in and wipe that infected cell out". And the killer cell attacks and neutralises the infected cell. Now, the new genetic vaccinations inject active virus RNA fragments into the body intentionally. This is what makes them different from any other vaccination we have ever had before (using deactivated virus material instead), and nobody thus can say what the consequences will be. The risk that not few medical experts now fear for, is this: because these virus fragments do not just link up to already infected cells, but move near to ALL cells, even healthy ones, because the active virus RNA fragments flow everywhere in the blood stream and so are being transported to all organ systems and all cells in the body, makes the immune system ringing alarm bells everywhere in the body, and starting to counter attack everywhere in the body - even in healthy, uninfected cells and organs. "Let the crows fly in your vicinity, and get shot with them", so to speak. What you get then is a classical auto-immune reaction, the immune system starts to turn against its own organism that it should protect - but now starts to cluster-bomb it into the ground, because virus RNA fragments are swimming everywhere and have flooded the whole blood vessel system. This risk is real, nobody knows how serious it can become, but there is real concern and solid reason why to be worried. I say it clearly: this type of vaccination I will not voluntarily accept. Not now, not in three years.

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And all this are the reasons that bring me and have brought me to my tactic for approaching the situation: physical and social hygiene, and - strengthening the immune system as nature's natural way of how to help the individual organism to get along with a new virus. we live with virusses since millenia, and got along and survived. The need now to hurry medical procedures maybe are not due to medical needs - but the needs of our modern and very dysfunctional, inhumane, stressful ways of living and the ways of systematically organising them in societies and economic structures!? Our bad food habits being part of that problem, and symptom of it at the same time. Covid-19 has unmasked a dramatic Vitamine-D deficiency pandemic, some say, and I agree absolutely with that, but it is not just Vitamine D (which is no vitamine, but a hormone, but that just btw). Many other nutrition variables are missing in our daily food as well. Vitamine C. B. K. Selen. Coencyme Q10. Magnesium. Iod. The balance between Omega 6 and Omega 3 acids is off the needed ratio by high factors of up to 30! And so much more. Idiot that I am, I once knew about this, due to a girlfriend many years ago who was ecotrophologist - and then I forgot about it. Stupid me. This summer, I went back to all that, and dove deep into the matter for a second time. Covid 19 also is a serious food deficiency crisis - especially in the nutrition-rich first world, ironically. You see, calories and carbon hydrates alone are just not enough. The knowledge of people, especially the young, about food and nutrition needs, tends to go against zero. The food industry does not mind to slowly kill them by scores. And now, we pay the price for that. The price comes by the name of Covid-19.

I agree with Platapus' recommendations, I just want to add: learn about food again. Micro nutrition substances. Its essential, iuts what keeps you alive, and healthy - or not, if you ignore it too long. Practcially all c hrinc deseases and auto-immune desease can be explained by bad nutrition and lacking ingredients. Learn about nutrition again. Fire modern food coaches that fol,low the vogues without really knowing what they talk about, the ammount of BS printed everyday on the latest diat and food, is hilarious. Learn the basics, learn about the individual substances and elements and ingredients, and learn about them by independent, scientific elaborations. Avoid commercials and advertising sites, stay with the fact-oriented stuff. Be aware of the enormous influence of the pharma lobby, their lack of interest for a healthy population should always be on your mind. Their influence in politics as well. In Germany, some years ago we had a consumer protection ministress who warned against too strict bans of tobacco advertising, because if the adverts would be banned, less cigarettes would be bought, and the state would get less tobacco taxes then. And she even said that openly during a press conference! Our current empty-headed nothingness leading that ministry now wants to regulate EU-wide all food supplemenets to therapeutically non-effective doses or ban their selling alltogether! Do you think you have really any good reason to trust in that politicians in your country are any better...?

[Mr Quatro]

Good grief Sky are you writing a book :o

[skidman]

Don't put silly ideas in his head.

[Skybird]

Different man, different words - same aiming direction like me.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/30/health/back-to-normal-bias-wellness/index.html


"There is no getting 'back to normal,' experts say. The sooner we accept that, the better. Five years change in six months. Politicians who pretend that 'normal' is just around the corner are fooling themselves or their followers, or perhaps both."

[August]

That has been rumoured since the early days of it spreading but for some reason or other the theory wasn't pursued for very long by the media.


I'll give you a reason. The ChiComs don't want it talked about.

[Jimbuna]

I'll give you a reason. The ChiComs don't want it talked about.

Very true but why didn't the western media make more of it or western governments for that matter?

Does this mean China has the ability to control or at least influence either or both of the above?

[Jimbuna]

First it was Dominic Cummings, then Steptoe and now Boris father.

PM's father Stanley Johnson pictured in shop without face covering.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54369002

This smacks of double standards, one rule for one and one different rule for the other.

'Do as I say, not what I do' springs to mind :nope: