US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[u crank]

While this is highly debatable but remotely possible, let's pretend that's true - why aren't they broadcasting on youtube? or this OAN I keep hearing about?

I don't know because I haven't looked for them there. I like comedians that are very politically incorrect. Bill Burr, Billy Connolly, Ron White, etc. I could care less about their political views.

They'll broadcast anything as long as it's anti-democratic. i mean anti-social. i mean anti-left.


You should try standup.

:O:

[Sonicfire1981]

Sonicfire...

It matters not the proof I give you. You won’t believe it or understand. Even if I gave proof.


now that's just escapism and en passant doubting my mental faculties. why are you getting personal?


Isolationism is what made the US great!

you mean the time of the great depression? Or the prohibition - the so called "time of change" - must have been the decade of choice for conservatives of that time.
I believe you mean the 50ies and 60ies, moonlanding, Elvis, Martin Luther King (wait- this, too?), this era. that was after US-isolationism.

Inclusion is slowly deteriorating us! Look what the EU did you guys!

..said no genepool ever. The thing is "You" are changing. it's kind of the point of history. you wouldn't say that people in medieval times were better off because they could more easily kill others and take their land. Or you wouldn't have to deal with womens' rights and what they wanted. Or would you?

We're good in the EU. It's the autoritarian/nationalist tendencies that make the union tough, but we're far better off than each on his own. let's wait a year and ask someone from UK.

[Catfish]

[...] He's never alone unless he's in bed.:O:
Oh you..
:rotfl2:

[Sonicfire1981]

What I'm asking myself is:

Will Biden follow Trump and not start any war and continue to withdraw troops from abroad ?

Markus

You mean abandoning allies from one day to the next? It's certainly not what social (that's not the evil word - it's missing three letters) people do.
canceling the Iran deal, INF, clearskies and the renewal of new START suggest that at least one of the last two presidents will seek peaceful solutions

[bstanko6]

Sonicfire...

You guys are living a huge “rob Peter to pay Paul” scenario! It won’t last. It is the biggest socialist experiment to ever fail.

The United States did go thru a depression because capitalism was not regulated as much as it is today.

But they got through it and prospered greatly.

Now being intertwined with the world... all the money we have is imaginary and inflated.

We were way better alone.

[Sonicfire1981]

Biden's first day: Close down the Keystone Pipeline.

Oil is a fading industry anyways. there's lots of jobs & cash in renewables

Stop construction of the border wall.

Who needs that thing, really? Anyone can surmount it with "maybe a rope".


The people who have lost jobs in one fell swoop of a pen is astonishing.

Don't worry. The 25 Million Dollar to pay them are gone with bannon anyways

[Sonicfire1981]

Sonicfire...

You guys are living a huge “rob Peter to pay Paul” scenario! It won’t last. It is the biggest socialist experiment to ever fail.

I doubt it will fail, but we'll lose a key figure this year, as germanies chancellor is about to quit.


The United States did go thru a depression because capitalism was not regulated as much as it is today.

But they got through it and prospered greatly.

after the depression came WWII and with it the end of isolationism. Do you mean that?

Now being intertwined with the world... all the money we have is imaginary and inflated.

as it has been in the 50ies - at least the imaginary part. In general: it's a sign of a poorly regulated capitalism..

We were way better alone.
You still haven't told me when and why.

Another question I had fits in nicely here: What's it with you and the fear of socialism? EU is definately not socialist but takes care of more people than in the US. EU citizens are healthier, live longer and are better educated. I'm just guessing, but I think you're not making 25Million a year without paying taxes... everything I've seen you condemn as socialist would benefit you. and your kids, greatly.
Where does this irrational fear of socialism come from?

[August]

Read on the internet:

Biden promises to be a president for all Americans. His first day in office he kills 60,000 American jobs and pisses off Canada. :haha:

[bstanko6]

Biden just signed into order transgender men can compete in women sports!

AHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Girls can say goodbye to college scholarships!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

To the Biden supporters.... your clown is very much active!!!!!

[Sonicfire1981]

Read on the internet:

Biden promises to be a president for all Americans. His first day in office he kills 60,000 American jobs and pisses off Canada. :haha:

Enlighten us and be more specific, please.

[Buddahaid]

Terrible. We are witnessing the early stages of the not orange man bad syndrome. I fear it may be incurable, perhaps fatal!

[bstanko6]

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Buddahaid! Don’t be a sheep! Biden sucks bro!

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[bstanko6]

This is the early stages of the

“C’mon man bad!” Syndrome!

Not even a full day and Biden is a joke!!!

[Sonicfire1981]

Terrible. We are witnessing the early stages of the not orange man bad syndrome. I fear it may be incurable, perhaps fatal!

We can't risk it being contagious. Strict isolation is in order - "if you suspect to show symptoms, please move to the nearest cabin in the woods. you're allowed to bring guns as you will be hunting your own food."

[bstanko6]

YOU CANT HAVE GUNs!!!!!

Biden wants to take them!

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

[bstanko6]

The press calls Jill Biden a beacon of fashion vs Melania Trump!! AHAHAHAHAHA!

Then Biden wants unity but signs order to allow transgender males to compete in women’s sports... goodbye girls scholarships!!! Great unity! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Then he makes a transgender woman a secretary of health! What about the mental health of the secretary? AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Then he kills a pipeline job up north and sends 60,000 people to the unemployment line! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Gas prices raised almost a $1 over night! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

It hasn’t been a full day! Never happened under Trump!!!!

What a joke!!!!!

[Buddahaid]

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=46516

"EIA expects that growth in crude oil production from members of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) and partner countries (OPEC+) will be limited because of a multilateral agreement to limit production. Saudi Arabia announced that it would voluntarily cut production by an additional 1.0 million b/d during February and March. Even with this cut, EIA expects OPEC to produce more oil than it did last year, forecasting that crude oil production from OPEC will average 27.2 million b/d in 2021, up from an estimated 25.6 million b/d in 2020."

[Sonicfire1981]

The press calls Jill Biden a beacon of fashion vs Melania Trump!! AHAHAHAHAHA!

who's "they"? she was well dressed, thou.

Then Biden wants unity but signs order to allow transgender males to compete in women’s sports... goodbye girls scholarships!!! Great unity! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I believe that's aimed at american transgender people. they're americans, too. so... unity achieved..

Then he makes a transgender woman a secretary of health! What about the mental health of the secretary? AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You clearlly have issues. But I'm not judging you. apart from that you have issues.

Then he kills a pipeline job up north and sends 60,000 people to the unemployment line! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That is entirely made up.

Gas prices raised almost a $1 over night! AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

gas is not the future.

It hasn’t been a full day! Never happened under Trump!!!!
What a joke!!!!!
True. At that time, efford and money was still spent on making the inauguration crowd bigger and inventing funny new words. like "alternative facts"

[bstanko6]

Biden is a clown! And nothing was made up. You can look it up yourself!

How is it unifying to eliminate girls from their own sports scholarships?

You got problems friend!

[Sonicfire1981]

Stop being a sheep! Biden is a clown!

NO! Guiseppe Grillo was a clown. Don't get mixed up. Boris Johnson I'm not sure. But Biden. He's not even remotely funny


And nothing was made up. You can look it up yourself!

That's why I'm asking. Can't find it.


How is it unifying to eliminate girls from their own sports scholarships?

That's made up.

You got problems friend!
plenty, but a bitc.... sorry. got carried away

[August]

Enlighten us and be more specific, please.


Who are you?

[Buddahaid]

Who are you?

A forum member is all that matters here. :Kaleun_Wink:

[August]

That's why I'm asking. Can't find it.




Then you didn't look very hard sport.

Google is not your friend or anyone elses but in this case the simple keywords "Biden" and "Keystone" were sufficient to bring up these:


https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-is-the-keystone-xl-pipeline-and-why-did-president-biden-issue-an-executive-order-to-block-it-11611240342


https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/joe-biden-kills-keystone-xl-pipeline-permit-460555


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/climate/biden-paris-climate-agreement.html


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/21/keystone-pipeline-biden-canada-trudeau-wrong-foot/

[August]

:yeah:A forum member is all that matters here. :Kaleun_Wink:


Not if he's going to go around giving orders to people. And BTW being a forum member has never been all that matters here or anywhere else.:yeah:

[Buddahaid]

:yeah:


Not if he's going to go around giving orders to people. And BTW being a forum member has never been all that matters here or anywhere else.:yeah:

Who's giving orders now?

[Sonicfire1981]

Then you didn't look very hard sport.

Google is not your friend or anyone elses but in this case the simple keywords "Biden" and "Keystone" were sufficient to bring up these:


Oh, I'm not questioning the cancelation of Keystone XL, but that 60.000 americans went home to their families today and said that they lost their jobs. The figure 60000 american jobs. can't find it.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-is-the-keystone-xl-pipeline-and-why-did-president-biden-issue-an-executive-order-to-block-it-11611240342


https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/joe-biden-kills-keystone-xl-pipeline-permit-460555


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/climate/biden-paris-climate-agreement.html


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/21/keystone-pipeline-biden-canada-trudeau-wrong-foot/

No sign of 60.000. Between you and me - it's not even a realistic figure. Corona killed 100k Jobs in that industry in a jear.
One of your articles is particularly interesting, as it states how China strives to become emmission-neutral in 2060 - re: Paris is dumb because china does not participate...

[Sonicfire1981]

:yeah:


Not if he's going to go around giving orders to people. And BTW being a forum member has never been all that matters here or anywhere else.:yeah:

I'm just someone interested in US politics. I had an entirely different question but then got caught up in the question how anyone could think your ex-president was anything but bad news and you should be happy that he's gone.
It's not my intention to order anyone to anywhere. If I had that intention and power, I think more of the ke-questions would have been answered.

[August]

Oh, I'm not questioning the cancelation of Keystone XL, but that 60.000 americans went home to their families today and said that they lost their jobs. The figure 60000 american jobs. can't find it.



No sign of 60.000. Between you and me - it's not even a realistic figure. Corona killed 100k Jobs in that industry in a jear.
One of your articles is particularly interesting, as it states how China strives to become emmission-neutral in 2060 - re: Paris is dumb because china does not participate...


Well I guess you can quibble over the numbers if you want but the fact remains he just shut down thousands of good paying jobs and those are on top of any other job losses.



But whatever, it was just an internet quote.

[Sonicfire1981]

Melania Trump was a supermodel who designed fashion!!! And she’s hot!!!

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Jill Biden has a doctorate and seems to actually like her husband.

[Sonicfire1981]

Well I guess you can quibble over the numbers if you want but the fact remains he just shut down thousands of good paying jobs and those are on top of any other job losses.

No, the fact does not remain, as it's not fact. not even "thousands" is a fact, as
Keystone XL waited for approval by the supreme court to be built anyways. Not a single construction worker lost his actual job because of that cancellation

But whatever, it was just an internet quote.
So it wasn't so bad a first day after all, huh?

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

While I think this belongs in a thread all it's own I applies here as well,

Why Chimpanzees Don’t Hold Elections: The Power of Social Reality



Most of your life takes place in a made-up world. You live in a country whose name and whose borders were made up by people. You allow particular humans to be leaders of that country, such as a president or a member of Congress, by following procedures invented by people long dead, such as elections, and you give them powers that were also made up by people. You acquire food and other goods with something called “money,” which is represented by pieces of paper and metal and even by electromagnetic waves flowing through the air, and which is also completely made up. You actively and willingly participate in this made-up world every day. It is real to you. It’s as real as your own name, which, by the way, was also made up by people.

The accompanying excerpt is adapted from “Seven and a Half Lessons About the Brain” (https://www.hmhbooks.com/shop/books/Seven-and-a-Half-Lessons-About-the-Brain/9780358157120) by Lisa Feldman Barrett (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 192 pages).



We all live in a world of social reality that exists only inside our collective human brains. Nothing in physics or chemistry determines that you’re leaving the United States and entering Canada, or that an expanse of water has certain fishing rights, or that a specific arc of the Earth’s orbit around the sun is called January. These things are real to us anyway. Socially real. https://undark.org/2021/01/01/book-excerpt-seven-and-a-half-lessons-about-the-brain/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

[bstanko6]

CHi....NA.... virus!

[Catfish]

While I think this belongs in a thread all it's own I applies here as well (https://undark.org/2021/01/01/book-excerpt-seven-and-a-half-lessons-about-the-brain/?utm_source=pocket-newtab) (https://undark.org/2021/01/01/book-excerpt-seven-and-a-half-lessons-about-the-brain/?utm_source=pocket-newtab)
We all live in a world of social reality that exists only inside our collective human brains. Nothing in physics or chemistry determines that you’re leaving the United States and entering Canada, or that an expanse of water has certain fishing rights, or that a specific arc of the Earth’s orbit around the sun is called January. These things are real to us anyway. Socially real.
This is it, it is all about human perception and an imagined social vision that is a made-up construction, and a screwed up one for anyone/thing else. As if squids created borders and passports to "cross" them. "Nations" are an entirely human brain concept, and thus equally ridiculous.

(B.t.w. since some Americans seem to have a problem with understanding or listening: Behaving "social" has nothing to do with "socialism", or "socialistic". E.g. the "Social-democratic party" in Germany is "social" and "democratic" inasfar as behaviour, social contacts, wellbeing and welfare have a priority, it is still very "capitalist"; equally the "Christian democratic Union" is basically a "social" party.
The meaning of "social" is a bit different in e.g. India or England, where it more relates to social classes being institutionalised, again a very human concept. One ape or group of apes is better that another, because of made-up reasons to justify being better off or at least different than others.
(Now England just missed the opportunity to become a member of the 20 planets union with brexit, so be it. I expect humans to be very astonished in a hundred years from now)

Is it a human's conscious decision to be born 200 meters left or right from an artificial "border", and then be "proud" and "patriotic" that this being was born at this place, and not 400 meters elsewhere? Oskar awards = one chimpanzee handing a stick to another, and the latter is sooo proud. Primate behaviour, where the word "primate" is already ridiculous.

[Jimbuna]

Donald Trump Jr attacking Biden less than 24 hours into his presidency – with misleading tweets https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-jr-attacking-biden-less-than-24-hours-into-his-presidency-%e2%80%93-with-misleading-tweets/ar-BB1cYjvo?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAnZ9Ug

Biden removes Trump’s Diet Coke button from the White House https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/biden-removes-trump-s-diet-coke-button-from-the-white-house/ar-BB1cYAev?ocid=mailsignout

[u crank]

No, the fact does not remain, as it's not fact. not even "thousands" is a fact, as
Keystone XL waited for approval by the supreme court to be built anyways. Not a single construction worker lost his actual job because of that cancellation

From the actual union that will be effected by the cancelation of phase 4 of the Keystone XL project, The United Association of Union Plumbers and Pipefitters.

https://uagetinvolved.org/content/keystone-xl-decision-will-raise-energy-costs-american-families

So it wasn't so bad a first day after all, huh?

Guess that depends on who you are.

[MaDef]

Another question I had fits in nicely here: What's it with you and the fear of socialism? EU is definately not socialist but takes care of more people than in the US. EU citizens are healthier, live longer and are better educated. I'm just guessing, but I think you're not making 25Million a year without paying taxes... everything I've seen you condemn as socialist would benefit you. and your kids, greatly.
Where does this irrational fear of socialism come from? Socialism is the antithesis of freedom, the core tenet that gave birth to the United States of America.

[Buddahaid]

Yes, freedom. Freedom to own property unchecked, freedom to create monopolies, freedom to starve, freedom to damage watersheds, freedom to pollute the environment, and freedom to own other people. These things are what freedom will create without some form of socialism in governance.

[u crank]

Yes, freedom. Freedom to own property unchecked, freedom to create monopolies, freedom to starve, freedom to damage watersheds, freedom to pollute the environment, and freedom to own other people. These things are what freedom will create without some form of socialism in governance.

Are those not the characteristics of the most notable repressive socialist regimes as well?

[skidman]

freedom, the core tenet that gave birth to the United States of America.

Oh, I've always thought it was a controversy about taxation and a war won with the help of the French.

[u crank]

Oh, I've always thought it was a controversy about taxation and a war won with the help of the French.

Well from a technical point of view, it was about being free from oppresive taxation.

As to the French, well up until 1763 the American colonies were fighting a war against the French from New France with the help of the British army. And that is where the oppresive tax came in. The British crown wanted the American Colonies to help foot the bill for that war.

Funny how things work out.

[bstanko6]

And the circus keeps getting bigger day two!

Biden puts in the oval office a bust of Cesar Chavez! The man who created a fruit workers union in the United States, and literally beats thousands of illegal immigrants crossing the border because he was afraid they would come in and take their jobs!

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

There’s your “immigrants welcome!” And “unity” Biden!

AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

This is actually funnier than watching Bill Mahr trying to be funny.

[bstanko6]

I have to apologize to you guys. I was seriously worried about the Biden administration. But seeing how much of a clown show it is I’m actually kind a hoping to see more! I mean, he still going to destroy all the American values that we hold dear, but this is gonna be really funny as he does it!

[ET2SN]

This is actually funnier than watching Bill Mahr trying to be funny.

Thanks for the reminder. :up:

Bill's guest tonight is Frank Figliuzzi, with Kmele Foster and Peter Hamby on the panel. Don't be late and bring your sandals and grape leaves. :yeah:

[bstanko6]

One big joke!

[Bilge_Rat]

looks like only a max of 5-6 GOP Senaors would vote to convict, so the 2nd impeachment will most likely go bust:

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/535343-gop-senators-say-only-a-few-republicans-will-vote-to-convict-trump

That is pretty much my calculation also.

CNN did an article on the GOP Senators who could vote to convict. They could only come up with 15 names (you need 17) and most were long shots.

All the 10 GOP Congressmen who voted for impeachment are already getting blowback, donors are cutting off funding and primary challengers are lining up.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/21/trump-revenge-gop-impeachment-backers-461189

[Catfish]

https://www.history.com/topics/mexico/cesar-chavez
:hmmm:

[mapuc]

Wondering, isn't there any American here on our forum, who more or less support Biden ?

Markus

[bstanko6]

Nope. Remember... it was a rigged election. Even if people disagree with me, no one’s ever gonna respect this man. I’m sorry I shouldn’t use absolutes, at least half of the country will never respect this man.

[Buddahaid]

Yes up to the point I think he moves to far to the left. Right now I'm not going to argue with the preschoolers throwing sand around the box.

[AVGWarhawk]

Oil is a fading industry anyways. there's lots of jobs & cash in renewables



Indeed, but oil and gas will not disappear any time soon. Electric vehicles have been in "the works" since 1890. Solar panels need to be less expensive and better looking. Not a fan of windmills personally. These thing take time but are in the works. Then there is always the strategic oil reserve. No matter how much people like to think the world is all Kumbaya, it is not.

[ET2SN]

Wondering, isn't there any American here on our forum, who more or less support Biden ?

Markus

...psst. :yep:


Biden will get smeared like he's Joe Stalin crossed with Hồ Chí Minh but the reality is that Biden is a Centrist who works toward bi-partisan goals. :up:

The Right won't be happy, the Left won't be happy, but I'll be happy. :yeah:

[AVGWarhawk]

Read on the internet:

Biden promises to be a president for all Americans. His first day in office he kills 60,000 American jobs and pisses off Canada. :haha:

President to all but 60,000 and Canada does not matter. :haha::hmmm:

[ET2SN]

81,281,502 people voted for Joe. :yep:

Next time run a better candidate. :D

[Sonicfire1981]

President to all but 60,000 and Canada does not matter. :haha::hmmm:

Reminder: that number is still made up. and the canadians will cope (besides: why do isolationists care about other countries sentiment?)

[AVGWarhawk]

Oh, I'm not questioning the cancelation of Keystone XL, but that 60.000 americans went home to their families today and said that they lost their jobs. The figure 60000 american jobs. can't find it.



No sign of 60.000. Between you and me - it's not even a realistic figure. Corona killed 100k Jobs in that industry in a jear.
One of your articles is particularly interesting, as it states how China strives to become emmission-neutral in 2060 - re: Paris is dumb because china does not participate...

Understand that the closing of Keystone and stoppage of wall building not only sends the actual workers home, it also stops the people who provide support, materials made in factories, and transportation companies. Similar to a car manufacture closes down. Parts are made from many companies and transported to the plant. So, it is not just plant workers losing jobs.

[Sonicfire1981]

81,281,502 people voted for Joe. :yep:

Next time run a better candidate. :D

pretty sure almost all of them voted against the orange man

[AVGWarhawk]

Jill Biden has a doctorate and seems to actually like her husband.

Jill Biden is propping up a husband who is faltering mentally do to his age. It is not Joes fault. He is showing signs of dementia.

[Jeff-Groves]

Wondering, isn't there any American here on our forum, who more or less support Biden ?

Markus

Yeah. I less support him.

[Sonicfire1981]

Nope. Remember... it was a rigged election. Even if people disagree with me, ...

reality disagrees with you... you need to get away from this OAN crap. It does nothing for you.

[Sonicfire1981]

Jill Biden is propping up a husband who is faltering mentally do to his age. It is not Joes fault. He is showing signs of dementia.

facts, please. be more specific. just because he's not mumbling about "person, man, woman, camera, tv" or uses the phrase "covfefe, it does not mean he has mental troubles.
quite the contrary, i find his sentences refreshingly coherent

[Jeff-Groves]

Well.
We will see if the The Curse of Tippecanoe (also known as Tecumseh's Curse or the 20 Year Presidential Curse) comes true.
:hmmm:
Joe Biden, the winner of the 2020 election, is next in line to this purported curse.

[Rockstar]

This is it, it is all about human perception and an imagined social vision that is a made-up construction, and a screwed up one for anyone/thing else. As if squids created borders and passports to "cross" them. "Nations" are an entirely human brain concept, and thus equally ridiculous.

(B.t.w. since some Americans seem to have a problem with understanding or listening: Behaving "social" has nothing to do with "socialism", or "socialistic". E.g. the "Social-democratic party" in Germany is "social" and "democratic" inasfar as behaviour, social contacts, wellbeing and welfare have a priority, it is still very "capitalist"; equally the "Christian democratic Union" is basically a "social" party.
The meaning of "social" is a bit different in e.g. India or England, where it more relates to social classes being institutionalised, again a very human concept. One ape or group of apes is better that another, because of made-up reasons to justify being better off or at least different than others.
(Now England just missed the opportunity to become a member of the 20 planets union with brexit, so be it. I expect humans to be very astonished in a hundred years from now)

Is it a human's conscious decision to be born 200 meters left or right from an artificial "border", and then be "proud" and "patriotic" that this being was born at this place, and not 400 meters elsewhere? Oskar awards = one chimpanzee handing a stick to another, and the latter is sooo proud. Primate behaviour, where the word "primate" is already ridiculous.




I think a lot of Americans get tripped up on that word socialism because of old animosities and propaganda from the cold war era. Couple that with no real desire to look beyond the headline or learn anything for themselves. It just snowballs into a battle of egos and tit for tat online arguments. What I think many fail to understand is that just because some program has the word social in it doesn't mean you can accuse it of being Socialism. Take for instance helping the poor or starving. We the people have a responsibility by either directly or through legislation and tax to establish social programs to help them. Private or government 'social programs' are NOT in any shape a form of Socialism as defined by Karl Marx.

IMO only thing that comes close to Socialism is property. Think about it, we own nothing, the state owns it all. Stop paying your real property tax and watch how fast they swoop in and take it from you and put it up for community auction. But hey they gotta pay for those social programs somehow I guess. ;)

[AVGWarhawk]

facts, please. be more specific. just because he's not mumbling about "person, man, woman, camera, tv" or uses the phrase "covfefe, it does not mean he has mental troubles.
quite the contrary, i find his sentences refreshingly coherent

Try this, live with a person who is in early stages of dementia. They can be with it all day. The next day there is a silver alert for a person who has disappeared. It happens to be the person you are living with that has dementia. It is gradual. You have only seen some of the mumbling on camera. You have also seen his wife pull him from the podium as he stood there lost or mumbling on.

[mapuc]

pretty sure almost all of them voted against the orange man

Which is a possibility.

Many put their vote on Biden, not because they are Democrats, or use to vote-They did it to get Trump out of the White House.

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

Try this, live with a person who is in early stages of dementia. They can be with it all day. The next day there is a silver alert for a person who has disappeared. It happens to be the person you are living with that has dementia. It is gradual. You have only seen some of the mumbling on camera. You have also seen his wife pull him from the podium as he stood there lost or mumbling on.
Fact.
My mother suffered dementia so I saw the signs.

[skidman]

Which is a possibility.

Many put their vote on Biden, not because they are Democrats, or use to vote-They did it to get Trump out of the White House.

Markus

Tell news. Voting in general is a decision for the lesser of two (or more) evils. So what?

[MaDef]

Oh, I've always thought it was a controversy about taxation and a war won with the help of the French.

The taxation thing was the straw that broke the camel's back, bottom line, the colonies were tired of people 3500 miles away ordering their lives without regard to actual conditions. Hence the "shot heard around the world". :yeah:

[Sonicfire1981]

The taxation thing was the straw that broke the camel's back, bottom line, the colonies were tired of people 3500 miles away ordering their lives without regard to actual conditions. Hence the "shot heard around the world". :yeah:

..so quite the opposite of what you would call socialist?

[Sonicfire1981]

Cesar Chavez! The man who created a fruit workers union in the United States, and literally beats thousands of illegal immigrants crossing the border because he was afraid they would come in and take their jobs!


you just made that up.

[bstanko6]

Biden is a centrist? Are you crazy! If so why does he not have any Republicans working with him? He has no committee set up with any olive branch headed over to the Republicans right now. Not a centrist brother.

[bstanko6]

So Biden is taking transgender’s for secretary and health. Insert own joke here.

Forced national guardsmen out of DC to sleep in a parking garage after the inauguration. Didn’t want them to be around anymore now that he’s president. Really good way to respect your military. And you can find it on Bloomberg.

What’s gonna come out of the clown car next? Sylvester the cat as secretary of defense?

[Dowly]

I'm 96% sure BStanko6 is Trump.
Just compare his posts and Trump's twee- oh...

[bstanko6]

I pray to be a great president like trump! That man has more morals and more values and more American ideals than Biden has in his little dementia mind.

[Dowly]

The remaining 4% of me thinks he is a troll.


I might have gotten those figures backwards, though...

[Onkel Neal]

In order to keep the forum software happy, with the many replies this thread has gotten, we're going to lock and open a new thread,

just continue on there, (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2723773#post2723773) mates.