Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Dargo]

This is how you colonize your neighbour!Russia, China and North Korea will soon begin negotiations to allow Chinese ships to pass through the border river Tumen into the Sea of Japan, The Moscow Times quoted Nikkei Asia as saying. The Tumen River flows along the border of China, North Korea and Russia and empties into the Sea of Japan. Chinese ships can now move freely along the river only up to the village of Fanchuan and have no opportunity to go to the sea, as for the passage of the remaining 15-kilometer section they need permission from Russia and North Korea.

Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, after their meeting in May, included a paragraph in their joint statement about Russian and Chinese participation in "constructive dialog" with North Korea over the Tumen River. Previously, Russia did not support this Chinese initiative, fearing that Beijing would thus increase its influence in Northeast Asia. However, against the backdrop of sanctions imposed against Russia for its invasion of Ukraine, Moscow is becoming increasingly dependent on the Chinese side, The Moscow Times noted.

What great friends Putin has :D since Mao, China wants territories from Russia. The selling off of Russia by Putin has started, and this is only the beginning. Master strategist indeed.

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/exclusive-deal-after-150-years.../ (https://www.eurasiantimes.com/exclusive-deal-after-150-years-china-may/)
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/China-eyes-Sea-of-Japan-access... (https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/China-eyes-Sea-of-Japan-access-via-Russia-North-Korea-border-river)
https://www.38north.org/2024/06/the-russia-china-dprk-strategic-triangle.../ (https://www.38north.org/2024/06/the-russia-china-dprk-strategic-triangle-phantom-threat-or-geopolitical-reality/)

[mapuc]

^ Do you believe China will openly join Russia in their war in Ukraine within furesable furture ?

Markus

[Dargo]

^ Do you believe China will openly join Russia in their war in Ukraine within furesable furture ?

MarkusNo definitely not, China does not want a war that would endanger their trade position with Europe, China needs this market to survive.

Old Leopard Tanks Can Be Reborn As Air Defense Systems With Skyranger 35 TurretThe German Rheinmetall company is assessing whether Cold War-era Leopard 1 tanks can have their turrets swapped out to be fitted with the Skyranger 35 short-range air defense system, turning them into highly mobile counters to a range of aerial threats. The initiative is driven by UkraineÂ’s insatiable demand for ground-based air defenses, but the company is also pitching its more modern Leopard 2 with the same turret, indicative of a broader resurgence in interest in short-range air defense systems (SHORADS), especially as the drone threat continues to proliferate around the globe.

Plans to modify the Leopard 1 with the Skyranger 35 turret were announced by Björn Bernhard, Head of Land Systems at Rheinmetall. “There are still a lot of Leopard 1 battle tanks on whose chassis we could put the Skyranger turret with the 35mm cannon,” Bernhard told the German newspaper Bild. While the Leopard 1/Skyranger 35 is aimed squarely at Ukrainian requirements, Bernhard noted that the modification effort is currently a secondary priority compared to Rheinmetall’s continued work to refurbish standard Leopard 1 tanks for Ukraine... https://www.twz.com/land/old-leopard-tanks-can-be-reborn-as-air-defense-systems-with-skyranger-35-turret

Russia's forgotten the most important thing about submarines :). They tend to last longer without BIG holes in them & bits of their hull falling off. Russian nuclear-powered cruise missile sub Kazan entering HavanaÂ’s bay, Cuba, June 12. While docked, Russian divers were seen around the sub, presumably trying to repair the tin tub. Indicating Russia's infamous military inefficiency, the sub is only 6 years old. https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-canadian-navy-patrol-ship-arrives-cuba-heels-russian-warships-2024-06-14/O7AYGKPDOZL57F7TR35CVAWO6Y/

https://i.postimg.cc/CxYYF0R3/tintub.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/L847C8Y8/tintub2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/sf9wkRRQ/tintub3.jpg
https://x.com/GlasnostGone/status/1802744287592943961

This is typical Russia always was, always will be, do not think this country can ever produce anything great.

[mapuc]

This is typical Russia always was, always will be, do not think this country can ever produce anything great.

Now that's funny because before the war many if not a majority was admired by the Russian military knowhow and their equipment.

Even in war games Russian had an advantage over Western weapons.

Markus

[mapuc]

Some month ago Russia had the momentum. Now after the ammo and weapon supply has started to arrive on the battle scenes the tide are changing in Ukraines favour. In other words Ukraine have now the momentum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cZluwKnee8

Markus

[Rockstar]

Russia's forgotten the most important thing about submarines :). They tend to last longer without BIG holes in them & bits of their hull falling off. Russian nuclear-powered cruise missile sub Kazan entering Havana’s bay, Cuba, June 12. While docked, Russian divers were seen around the sub, presumably trying to repair the tin tub. Indicating Russia's infamous military inefficiency, the sub is only 6 years old. https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-canadian-navy-patrol-ship-arrives-cuba-heels-russian-warships-2024-06-14/O7AYGKPDOZL57F7TR35CVAWO6Y/

https://x.com/GlasnostGone/status/1802744287592943961

This is typical Russia always was, always will be, do not think this country can ever produce anything great.

Acoustic tiles falling off the hull of submarines is a problem for a lot of Navy’s. Even our 2-5 billion dollar Virginia class boats had that problem. The only difference is we quickly find the cause, make the necessary changes and repair it.

[Dargo]

Acoustic tiles falling off the hull of submarines is a problem for a lot of Navy’s. Even our 2-5 billion dollar Virginia class boats had that problem. The only difference is we quickly find the cause, make the necessary changes and repair it.This is a general Russian problem the state of their equipment military or public is outdated not maintained, and their safety policy is as bad. Hilarious to see Putin threaten the world with wreckages Putin's way to make Russia great again, LOL.

[Rockstar]

Artur Horbenko, the commander of the Ukrainian 125th Separate Territorial Defense Brigade, is resigning from his position. The 125th Brigade has been defending the Kharkiv region since May 2022. Recently, the State Bureau of Investigation opened criminal proceedings against the brigade's commanders, accusing them of failing to properly organize the defense, leading to the unit potentially abandoning combat positions during the latest Russian offensive in the region.

Fighting corruption is crucial to Ukraine's ability to fight during the war, - U.S. Ambassador Brink

Джерело: https://censor.net/ua/n3495209

Fighting corruption is crucial to Ukraine's ability to fight during the war, - U.S. Ambassador Brink
The fight against corruption is crucial to Ukraine's ability to fight during the war.

This was told in an interview with "Suspilne" by US Ambassador to Ukraine Bridget Brink, informs Censor.NET.

"It is also important to secure your future as a sovereign, prosperous democracy that seeks to integrate into the European Union and NATO," the diplomat said.

Brink added that she knows that both President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and the people of Ukraine want this.

"On behalf of President Biden, and on behalf of our administration, I work with the leadership of Ukraine to achieve these goals. And of course, we cooperate with the government, the Verkhovna Rada and civil society," the US representative said.

Answering a question about how acute the issue of corruption in Ukraine is currently, Brink replied that both the authorities and the people of Ukraine are making efforts to fight corruption.

"And this gave Ukraine the ability to achieve the start of negotiations on joining the EU. This made it possible for the IMF to continue to allocate funds to support the Ukrainian economy. And this made it possible for the United States and our partners to assist Ukraine in its current struggle," the US ambassador said.

She also stressed that despite the above-mentioned efforts, Ukraine needs to do even more.
"We, the United States of America, are making big investments in your country. We would like you to achieve your goals. Both I and the entire administration, we are determined to help you do this," the diplomat said.

***Recall that earlier Brinko sounded the key conditions for maintaining support for Ukraine from the United States. This is a continuation of anti-corruption and other reforms, as well as the accountable use of American aid.

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*** Anti-corruption reforms and accountable use of American aid: Brink voiced key conditions for maintaining support for Ukraine by the United States

Джерело: https://censor.net/ua/n3487858


U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bridget Brink voiced the key conditions for maintaining support for Ukraine from the United States.

Commenting on the visit of Deputy Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) Isabel Coleman to Kyiv on social network X, Brink stressed the importance of carrying out some reforms, reports Censor.NET.

"Continuation of anti-corruption and other reforms, as well as the accountable use of American aid, are key to achieving these goals and maintaining support from the United States," the ambassador wrote.

Full transcript is linked here. https://m.censor.net/ua/resonance/3492973/pavlo_yakimchuk_hto_z_miroshnychenko

https://youtu.be/1BbXj_1eJuA

Portion of transcript below

In our previous conversation with you, you said that first you need to defeat the enemy of the outside, and then the enemy of the inside.

- I was wrong.

- You made a mistake.

- Yes. As of today, after I lived in the rear for 10 months and read a bunch of investigations of UP, Tkach, Bigus, as of today I already believe in another, I believe that if we do not overcome corruption within the country, we will not win the war in any way, especially against Russia. No, we just need to open the second front, I'm not saying that there, God forbid, that guys with machine guns run to Kyiv and some Maidan and coup again, in no case, but we must clearly understand the fact that our main enemy in Ukraine now is corruption, because, firstly, it's corruption that leads Russia, because it turns out that we sell some equipment to Russia through second countries in Transcarpathia. How? People, are you in your mind? Jackets were sewn with the inscription "Russia" – this is in Transcarpathia.

[Reece]

Hilarious to see Putin threaten the world with wreckages Putin's way to make Russia great again, LOL.
:har::har:

[Skybird]

It's like modernizing a block of flats. First you have to demolish all the existing buildings, just then you can build new ones in their place. See Nero. :D

[dpa, NZZ] Germany has reported to NATO estimated defense spending of 90.6 billion euros for the current year and would therefore currently clearly reach the alliance's two percent target. According to a new Nato overview, the record sum corresponds to a share of the forecast German gross domestic product (GDP) of 2.12 percent. This would be higher than expected at the beginning of the year.

Against the backdrop of the Russian war of aggression against Ukraine, Germany has set itself the target of reaching the NATO target for defense spending agreed in 2014 for the first time this year. It stipulates that the member states should plan to spend at least two percent of their GDP on this every year.

According to the new figures, 23 alliance states are expected to reach or even exceed the target this year. The frontrunners in the quota are currently Poland with defense spending of 4.12 percent of GDP and Estonia with 3.43 percent. Both countries are therefore ahead of the USA, which is expected to reach 3.38% in 2024 according to the latest estimates.

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Note the German value is not the ordinary defence budget, but the defence budget beefed up by the once-in-a-lifetime 100bn special budget for the military that originally was meant to be spend additionally to the demanded regular 2% defence budget. Now it gets eaten up for just boosting the defence budget to 2% for a few years. How it will go on from there is Babble-Olaf's secret. He created the cheat, but will not be the one solving it, since he will be out of office then (hopefully).

Means: the German defence spending is not really the normal 2% quota demanded, but its glossed up. Like a kid not getting along with its assigned pocket money and getting an additional tip by its parents by the end of the month.

Putin wields the broom.

https://www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/internationales/putin-rechnet-mit-der-russischen-armee-ab--was-bezweckt-er-damit-11807120.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6BhDEQiai4

[Catfish]

[...]
Russia's forgotten the most important thing about submarines :). They tend to last longer without BIG holes in them & bits of their hull falling off. Russian nuclear-powered cruise missile sub Kazan entering Havana’s bay, Cuba, June 12. While docked, Russian divers were seen around the sub, presumably trying to repair the tin tub. Indicating Russia's infamous military inefficiency, the sub is only 6 years old. [...]
As others here have already said, those tiles missing are part of the anechoic coating, and all navies have this problem; even german subs in WW2 already had problems with their 'Alberich' coating, It is not only glue and seawater but the hull of the sub changing its form during dive and surfacing. Two-hull boats are usually less affected since their outer hull is not changing size and form in a way like the pressure hull does. Or whatever ;)

[mapuc]

The Western allied have their eyes fixed on North Korea and Putins visit.

What will Putin get from NK and what will Kim get from Putin ?

Should we be concerned ?

Here's more about His visit to NK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFDHUObDaXQ

Edit
A translated article on this meeting
https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/samfund/ekspert-om-putin-visit-vi-skal-vaere-nervoese/10271026?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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Markus

[Jimbuna]

Putin gets cheap second rate ammunition and Fatboy gets military technology.

[Rockstar]

The Western allied have their eyes fixed on North Korea and Putins visit.

What will Putin get from NK and what will Kim get from Putin ?

Should we be concerned ?

Here's more about His visit to NK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFDHUObDaXQ

Edit
A translated article on this meeting
https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/samfund/ekspert-om-putin-visit-vi-skal-vaere-nervoese/10271026?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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Markus


Unless China is using North Korea as a proxy to sell arms to Russia I really don’t see what little Un has to offer.

[mapuc]

Unless China is using North Korea as a proxy to sell arms to Russia I really don’t see what little Un has to offer.

Jim said it Cheap Second rate ammo
To this I may add a few thousand volunteers.

It's more interesting the other way around what will Putin give little Un ?

Markus

[Dargo]

Jim said it Cheap Second rate ammo
To this I may add a few thousand volunteers.

It's more interesting the other way around what will Putin give little Un ?

MarkusTechnology to get satellites into space without doing the kaboom.

[Rockstar]

Jim said it Cheap Second rate ammo
To this I may add a few thousand volunteers.

If Little Un was smart he’d unload his prison population on Putin :haha: and old useless ammo stocks that’s probably been laying around taking up space since the ‘50s


It's more interesting the other way around what will Putin give little Un ?

Markus

That’s a good question but if it’s rocket tech which could be used to propel nukes. I don’t even think China would like it because our next option is to deploy nukes in South Korea and Japan

[mapuc]

If Little Un was smart he’d unload his prison population on Putin :haha: and old useless ammo stocks that’s probably been laying around taking up space since the ‘50s



That’s a good question but if it’s rocket tech which could be used to propel nukes. I don’t even think China would like it because our next option is to deploy nukes in South Korea and Japan

I was thinking more like fighter jets, such as MIG29,31 and SU27,34

Markus

[Rockstar]

https://youtu.be/72QpCqBgrPU

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BuDTxit8_A

Markus

[Skybird]

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/entwicklungen-im-ukraine-krieg-experte-warnt-putin-haengt-nicht-nur-die-ukraine-sondern-auch-den-westen-ab_id_260056734.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de

(...) Thiele, who also served as director of the German Armed Forces Command and Staff College, ultimately believes: "There have been better times for negotiations. The prospects of winning on the battlefield are predictably getting worse for Ukraine over time."

In the eyes of the military expert, "Western wishful thinking" that Russia will be defeated helps none of the parties involved. On the contrary: "It is extremely dangerous for our own security and prosperity in an increasingly harsh world. The risk of escalation is increasing."

Richter also says: "Ukraine must be supported militarily so that its position does not deteriorate further. We must recognize that 'business as usual' does not work, that individual weapons systems are not a game changer, that Russia's military resource situation has not deteriorated and that sanctions are not supported by the global South."

He advocates thinking about an "exit strategy". In other words: "Negotiations are unavoidable. However, the necessary compromises will now be far more painful than they were two years ago during the Istanbul negotiations." (...)

[Skybird]

https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/politik/Wir-sehen-dass-Russland-gestoppt-werden-kann-article25021074.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de


(...)We can see that Russia can be stopped. If the West has the will to really get involved, then it is possible. The tragedy is that the situation always has to come to a head before Ukraine's supporters realize it: The situation is bad, we have to do something! Then they do something, are reassured afterwards, but don't understand that success needs to be nurtured. If we want Ukraine's success of the last two weeks to be sustainable, then the aid must not be allowed to stop.
(...)
In the Donbass, I haven't been able to observe the same positive effects as in the north, where the Russians continue to advance between 200 and 500 meters every day. It's this miserable battle from one shelter belt, i.e. a line of bushes, to the next. But here we can see: The pressure of the Russian attackers on the Ukrainian defense forces is still great and the advance is continuous. The Russian bridgehead in Ukraine's second line of defense has steadily expanded over the past month, especially near Ochertyne.(...)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmLUdvtgj9k

[Jimbuna]

North Korea has sent close to five million artillery shells to Russia

Russia has received nearly 5 million artillery shells from North Korea since Vladimir Putin sought out military assistance from Pyongyang according to the South Korean Minister of Defense.

During an interview with Bloomberg News, South Korean Defense Minister Shin Won-sik stated that Moscow has received roughly 10,000 shipping containers from its North Korean allies.

Won-sik also noted that the shipping containers could have held as many as 4.8 million artillery shells that the Russian Armed Forces have employed to attack targets inside Ukrainian territory.

“Putin is expected to seek closer security cooperation with North Korea,” the South Korean Defense Minister explained to Bloomberg, adding Putin was hoping to get more artillery shells that Russian forces need to “seize a chance to win.”

North Korea has also sent Russia dozens of ballistic missiles to help Moscow achieve a win against Ukraine, this is something the United States has confirmed and reported on ever since the first North Korean missiles were used in Ukraine.

As recently as May 30th, the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency has asserted that Russia is receiving ballistic missiles and artillery shells from North Korea and they have been used against Ukraine according to Reuters.

A report from the Defense Intelligence Agency revealed debris confirmed North Korean solid-propellent short-range ballistic missiles were used by Russia in Ukraine in January 2024 in the Kharkiv region.

"Analysis confirms that Russia used ballistic missiles produced in North Korea in its war against Ukraine. North Korean missile debris was found throughout Ukraine," a Defense Intelligence Agency statement accompanying the report noted.

In February 2024, reports began to emerge that as many as half the then roughly one million artillery shells thought to have been shipped to Ukraine were faulty or didn’t work based on comments from Ukraine’s Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR).

"Today, if we take the available statistical data, the Russians have already imported 1.5 million rounds of ammunition from the [Democratic People’s Republic of Korea]," the Deputy Head of the GUR Vadym Skibitsky explained according to Newsweek.

"But these munitions are from the 70s and 80s. Half of them do not function, and the rest require either restoration or inspection before use," Skibitsky added. However, despite the faulty shells, North Korea has gained something in return for its help.

Bloomberg News reported that Russia was providing the North Koreans with technology to help the hermit kingdom in its plans to develop and launch spy satellites into orbit.

Moscow is also helping Pyongyang by providing technology to advance the North Korean military’s conventional arms, including tanks and aircraft according to Bloomberg News.

“North Korea is ignoring its people’s hardships to carry out missile provocations,” Shin told Bloomberg News about Pyongyang’s ongoing missile program costs. “The money is enough to cover North Korea’s food shortages for a year.”

Kim is spending a lot of money on its missile program according to Bloomberg News, which reported that missile tests alone cost Pyongyang $1 billion dollars, or 4% of the North Korean economy.

Won-sik’s comments were published just days before Putin was scheduled to Visit Kim Jong Un in North Korea, the first time the Russian President has visited his allies since July 2000 according to the South Korean newspaper Dong-A Ilbo.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/north-korea-has-sent-close-to-five-million-artillery-shells-to-russia/ss-BB1ovmqY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3c13d4ab08ec4ebcb180f2d845cbc006&ei=104

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1miIZ1Ipwwo

Markus

[mapuc]

In the eyes of the military expert, "Western wishful thinking" that Russia will be defeated helps none of the parties involved. On the contrary: "It is extremely dangerous for our own security and prosperity in an increasingly harsh world. The risk of escalation is increasing."

This military expert is seeing it otherwise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1LAlq8LLjg

Markus

[Catfish]

Underestimating Putin is nonsense, but being defeatist does not help either.

[Dargo]

Russia has moved almost all troops from Finnish border to UkraineDespite Moscow's threats over Finland's NATO accession, Russian bases near the Finnish border are virtually empty as Russia has redeployed personnel and equipment from these bases to Ukraine.

Source: Finnish broadcaster Yle, citing sources in intelligence, as reported by European Pravda

Details: Despite Russia threatening Finland with "consequences" if it joined NATO and pledging to increase its military presence near the border, Russian military bases in the region are far emptier than they were a year ago.

"On average, 80% of the equipment and soldiers have been transferred to the war against Ukraine," a source in intelligence reports. The proportion of troops and equipment withdrawn varies by base, and also depends on the season and military exercises. Only instructors and new recruits are left on the bases – the contract soldiers have been sent to fight in Ukraine.

The source said Russia is "scooping up" equipment and military personnel from its bases – not just near the Finnish borders, but everywhere across its vast territory except for Moscow Oblast.

Yle has also obtained satellite images of Russian bases that confirm some of the changes. For example, dozens of units of equipment have disappeared from a Russian military base near Petrozavodsk as of May 2024, compared to June 2023. At the same time, a new warehouse has appeared that was not there before, with equipment parked outdoors instead of being hidden inside. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/06/19/7461553/

[mapuc]

^ This must indicate that the war in Ukraine is not going as good as Russia want us to think.

It will come a time, when Putin has to make the not-so-clever-decision mobilize reserves from Moscow and Skt. Petersburg a.s.o.

Markus

[August]

And then there is this:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbyk_b3GRs8

[Rockstar]

I don’t doubt those UKR SOF are trained by and according to NATO combat doctrines. Most likely playing part in what we are trying to achieve while applying those learned skills and gaining hands on experience and taking their NATO combat experiences back to Ukraine.

[August]

I don’t doubt those UKR SOF are trained by and according to NATO combat doctrines. Most likely playing part in what we are trying to achieve while applying those learned skills and gaining hands on experience and taking their NATO combat experiences back to Ukraine.


Like the video says it will cost the Russians far more to meet these new challenges than it costs to deploy those teams.

[Gorpet]

Here is a song, For all NATO leaders Johnny Cash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoxQWFtqaYM ,

It seems to me as a man who has worked all his life.These politicians have no idea about life.And i refuse their invitation to their future. You want us to believe and participate in your wars, Will your sons and daughters take their and your guns to town..


I don't know who is running the government of the United States. But,anybody that has common sense,would know the smartest people meet in Dog parks, library's, local pubs anywhere the High educated wouldn't dare not to tread.

Any way let's go kill some Russians. For Democracy,this word is bull****. If you really believe in a one world globlist domination, you certainty haven't been a construction worker. A worker that is on par with any college brain, And let's put that on on live TV. Let's have so the world can see. Who has the qualifications.The Politician or the Plumber, Electrician,NHS,Hvac,or the guy who picks up your Garbage.

Anywho, Let's have a war it will give all the politicians a way out of their lies . And that's what we will have, All of these *******s are what they are.

Now Joey the greatest War leader in the Milky Way Galaxy has sign into effect all 18 to 25 in the USA must register. Nobody in Joey's world is going to Ukraine. All women have become Barrack bunnies and the rest of the of his Rainbow Warriors are watching Raw Videos of the battlefield,Their not going!

It's now a time for the British,French and the Germans and all of Europe to strike, Russia... cause the Americans across the Atlantic told you to. For Democracy. It's a word that will in the future if there is a future will be spit upon.

[Skybird]

On the defence budgets NATO members reported back to Brussel. This text shows, that Germany is not the only country but is particularly shameless and massive in falsifying and manipulating its figures in order to appear to be particularly keen on spending, when in reality it is probably staying well below the targets. How Germany can report this year's expenditure to Brussels of over 90 billion, when the actual military expenditure for this year is just over 50 billion, can be explained as follows:

https://www-tagesschau-de.translate.goog/inland/innenpolitik/bundeswehr-nato-zwei-prozent-100.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

I say it time and again. Dont trust the Germans. They are unreliable and talk plenty of talk but dot not want to walk the walk. Geltungssüchtige Maulhelden.

The Bundeswehr reported a need for over 180 additional Leopard 2 MBTs, if Bubble-Olaf's big-mouthed announcements from two years ago are to be brought to life. However, this little man's devious amateur theater group has only ordered 18 to date, and that too with a long delay - as a replacement for the 18 that were delivered to Ukraine.


German security policy and guarantees: "Schall und Rauch" made in Germany. I hope they learn this in the Baltic states. They urgently need much more robust security partners than Germany.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlo6JegWKpY

[Jimbuna]

Russia's losses in Ukraine as of June 20: 1,170 troops and 45 artillery systems


The Ukrainian Defense Forces have eliminated 1,170 Russian occupiers in the past 24 hours. Since the start of the full-scale invasion, the Russian Federation has lost approximately 530,920 soldiers. Additionally, Ukrainian forces have destroyed 45 artillery systems and 18 armored combat vehicles within the same period, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The estimated total combat losses of the Russians from February 24, 2022, to June 20, 2024, are as follows:

・Personnel: 530,920 (+1,170) eliminated

・Tanks: 7,987 (+3)

・Armored combat vehicles: 15,337 (+18)

・Artillery systems: 14,052 (+45)

・Multiple launch rocket systems: 1,105 (+1)

・Anti-aircraft systems: 859 (+2)

・Aircraft: 359

・Helicopters: 326
・Operational-tactical UAVs: 11,260 (+39)

・Cruise missiles: 2,298 (+1)

・Ships/boats: 28

・Submarines: 1

・Motor vehicles and fuel tanks: 19,134 (+56)

・Special equipment: 2,357 (+6)

In related news, the White House has officially confirmed that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are authorized to use American weaponry for strikes on Russian territory near the Kharkiv and Sumy regions. According to Michael Carpenter, the Senior Director for Europe at the National Security Council, this measure aims to prevent the enemy from sheltering its forces on its side of the border from where it launches attacks on Ukraine.

Previously, RBC-Ukraine reported that F-16 fighter jets from the United States would be stationed in Ukraine. Furthermore, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be able to use provided air defense systems against Russian aircraft, even if they are in Russian airspace.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-s-losses-in-ukraine-as-of-june-20-1-170-troops-and-45-artillery-systems/ar-BB1oyXNY?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=b6219eb8a6e344c8bb28425953ae902f&ei=28

[em2nought]

I think we fought the cold war for so long that everybody forgets what we were trying to keep from happening. :hmmm:

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/3-atomic-bomb-explosion-us-department-of-energyscience-photo-library.jpg

[Catfish]

So you zhrow away all conventional and else weapons and let yourself be blackmailed by a second class dictator?

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9RVnFI4lAY

Markus

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL3JR53RjdU

Markus

[Skybird]

If things go bad, Putin and Kim mull a war on the Korean pensinsula. There is a historical precedence. And Putin will try his best to set the world aflame in as many regio al wars as he can, to distract the West and force the US to divert its ressources, and to divide NATO.

In a way, Russia already has started WW3.

Western peace doves are so totally off topic, its almost surreal.

Because one thing China, Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea want more than anything else: to shatter the former world order that formed up after WW2.

There is nothing we can do to prevent that. We can only do our best to be prepared for getting along in the new world order the forces of darkness enforce for everybody. Its called "survivval of the fittest".

I dont see that we do our best in this regard. Far from that. And I even do leave out for the moment Islam'S conquest in the West, which is the enemy already standing inside our cities, inside our walls instead of before them - because we let it in unneeded, voluntarily, without necessity.

[mapuc]

I fear what you have foreseen will become true.

Got this feeling, when watching little Un and Putin talking, will NK feel strong and attack SK ?

Markus

[Skybird]

NK will go it alone, Russia is busy. The visit is more about gettingRussia'S tolerance for North Korean action. There is a historical precedence for this, 1950. The Korea war was not launched before NK got agreement from Stalin.

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc4aBxeYod8

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-Mb2-Vihn4

[August]

NK will go it alone, Russia is busy. The visit is more about gettingRussia'S tolerance for North Korean action. There is a historical precedence for this, 1950. The Korea war was not launched before NK got agreement from Stalin.




The RoK's would clean their clock if they did. This ain't 1950.

[Jimbuna]

Russia Calls for Urgent Security Talks with U.S.

Russia sees an urgent need for security discussions with the United States, emphasizing that such talks must be "comprehensive" and include the topic of Ukraine, the Kremlin announced on Friday, according to Hot News.

A Comprehensive Dialog
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov stated that it is impossible to separate individual issues from the overall complex of accumulated problems.

When asked if Moscow is ready to discuss nuclear risks with Washington, Peskov replied:

“We are open to dialogue, but it must be an extended, comprehensive dialogue covering all dimensions, including the current situation related to the conflict in Ukraine and the direct involvement of the U.S. in the conflict.”

The United States has consistently rejected Russia's accusation that by arming Ukraine, it has become a direct participant in a war aimed at delivering a "crushing strategic defeat" to Russia.

Ukraines Responsibility
Washington maintains that any negotiations regarding the war are the responsibility of Ukraine.

Peskov's remarks echo Russia's long-standing position but highlight a growing list of issues that need to be addressed in U.S.-Russia discussions.

"Overall, dialogue is very necessary," Peskov emphasized. "It is needed because the number of problems is increasing, and there are many issues related to the global security architecture."

From Washington's perspective, it is President Vladimir Putin who is adding to the list of security concerns.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-calls-for-urgent-security-talks-with-u-s/ar-BB1oDWMe?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=9ee185e652084782a7a11cb6867cd4da&ei=14

[Jimbuna]

Hungary drops sanctions block over nuclear deal with Russia

Prime Minister Viktor Orban's Hungarian government has agreed to the 14th package of sanctions against Russia in exchange for the exclusion of measures threatening Rosatom's expansion of the nuclear power plant in Paks, reports the Hungarian editorial office of Radio Free Europe.

Radio Free Europe reported on Thursday, citing its sources, that the Hungarian government has ceased blocking EU sanctions on Russian liquefied natural gas (LNG) supplies after receiving assurances that the expansion project of their only nuclear power plant will not face future restrictions.

Russian state-owned company Rosatom is building two new nuclear power plant units in Paks, central Hungary, with a capacity of 1,200 megawatts each. The project, named Paks II, is one of Orban's government's key energy initiatives. The total investment value is expected to be around £10 billion, with 80% of the costs covered by a Russian loan.
Budapest regularly reiterates that it will block any sanctions package that includes cooperation in the nuclear energy sector. At the end of May, Hungary also signed a cooperation agreement in this area with Belarus.

Previously, Budapest excluded supporting any punitive measures against the Russian gas sector due to supply security concerns.

New sanctions package after a month of negotiations
After more than a month of negotiations, EU countries agreed on Thursday to the 14th sanctions against Russia. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen announced that the new restrictions are intended to hinder the Kremlin's access to technology and limit its revenue from energy exports.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/hungary-drops-sanctions-block-over-nuclear-deal-with-russia/ar-BB1oELU7?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=d1220e4b057440b0bbcf94cd4e7805a1&ei=19

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC_uP9e6Ie4

Markus

[Dargo]

South Korea will consider supplying arms to Ukraine after Russia and North Korea sign strategic pactSEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korea said Thursday that it would consider sending arms to Ukraine, a major policy change that was suggested after Russia and North Korea rattled the region and beyond by signing a pact to come to each other’s defense in the event of war. The comments from a senior presidential official came hours after North Korea’s state media released the details of the agreement, which observers said could mark the strongest connection between Moscow and Pyongyang since the end of the Cold War. It comes at a time when Russia faces growing isolation over the war in Ukraine and both countries face escalating standoffs with the West.
...
Yoon’s national security adviser, Chang Ho-jin, said that Seoul would reconsider the issue of providing arms to Ukraine to help the country fight off Russia’s full-scale invasion. South Korea, a growing arms exporter with a well-equipped military backed by the United States, has provided humanitarian aid and other support to Ukraine, while joining U.S.-led economic sanctions against Moscow. But it hasn’t directly provided arms to Kyiv, citing a longstanding policy of not supplying weapons to countries actively engaged in conflict... https://apnews.com/article/north-korea-russia-kim-jong-un-putin-military-assistance-war-d9bb8aee7eb1a692b932337578fb3e30?taid=6673fefe3395 d600013381fe&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

Karma is a biaach I would rather be getting South Korean systems and ammunition than North Korean. Putin realising he’s screwed up and trying to salvage things by making nuclear threats to South Korea. Another pointless red line from the bully.

It's really happening.
"We completed the procedure of providing weapons to Ukraine and is considering providing Anti-tank missiles and artillery shells first".
As we expected, the Raybolt ATGM and 105mm, 155mm artillery shells.
Russia, what have you done.
Perhaps this is what we should have done from the beginning.
These North fanatics are should not be trusted and its ours to deal with.
You have far outlived your reputation, Putin. https://x.com/mason_8718/status/1804148534498996732

US gives Ukraine priority in delivery of new Patriot missilesThe United States is going to give Ukraine priority in supplying Patriot air defense missiles. Shipments to other countries will be postponed for the time being so that Ukraine can build up sufficient supplies. The US National Security Council spokesman announced this. John Kirby said yesterday that it was "a difficult but necessary decision at this key moment in the war." Kirby expects the new deliveries to arrive in Ukraine by the end of summer. "Everything they need will go to Ukraine," President Biden said earlier this week. His Ukrainian counterpart Zelensky said he was grateful for the missiles, which are intended to protect civilians and cities from Russian attacks. Taiwan is the only country exempted from the new delivery policy, likely because of the growing threat from China.

Washington is additionally trying to persuade other countries to transfer existing missile systems to Ukraine. Romanian President Iohannis responded positively, promising yesterday to send an additional Patriot system to Ukraine. Spain and Greece are not heeding the U.S. call, as is Poland. That country says it needs the air defense missiles itself, to secure transshipment points of Western weapons for Ukraine.

Netherlands to supply Patriot system to Ukraine together with another countryDutch Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren announced that the Netherlands will supply components for a Patriot air defense system for Ukraine together with another country. Ollongren did not name the second country or provide details on when the system would be delivered, but said that the Netherlands will supply the system's radar and launchers. The Dutch Defense Ministry said in May that the Netherlands would like to deliver a Patriot system to Ukraine in cooperation with other countries, and was in talks to compile the air defense system.

The Netherlands has not delivered a full patriot system to Ukraine so far, but has previously provided launchers and other supplies, as well as training for crews. Ollongren described Romania's decision to supply a Patriot system, announced on June 20, as "very good news." Bucharest said it decided to donate the Patriot system to Kyiv in coordination with partners in view of the "deteriorating security situation" in Ukraine due to Moscow's constant attacks. Ukraine has 4 Patriots/SAMP-T Systems, 5 are expected to arrive. In total, 6-7 more would need to be pledged for Ukraine to have a strong defense against Russia.

[mapuc]

^
Oh so that's why he said those words about South Korea in a tv-transmitted speech which I saw some hours ago on Danish tv.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Listen @0.08 second and @2:20. Who knew Ukrainian gun crews spoke German so well :haha:


Posted 5 hours ago
https://youtu.be/61zC6SxJdbQ

[Catfish]

Hungary drops sanctions block over nuclear deal with Russia
Mafia-Orban taking EU money and giving it to his family, while tryingvto destroy the EU and join Moscow... unbelievable.
Eu should instantly drop Hungary 😡

[Catfish]

Listen @0.08 second and @2:20. Who knew Ukrainian gun crews spoke German so well :haha:
Only good friends and advisors, just like the US :D

[Rockstar]

Only good friends and advisors, just like the US :D

No doubt we all have advisors/crew assigned to donated equipment, especially on the more advanced systems. Might be why we have been so hesitant to allow them to fire into Russia.

Especially Patriots it takes well over a year of training to master those things.

[Reece]

Mafia-Orban taking EU money and giving it to his family, while trying to destroy the EU and join Moscow... unbelievable.
Eu should instantly drop Hungary 😡

If true I certainly agree, hopefully just some erroneous reporting or propaganda! :oops:

[Skybird]

Both Hungary and Orban AND the EU are corrupt to the max. :03: The money wasting on side of members of EU parliament is legendary and proverbial. So is that of commission members.

Seen that way, both deserve each other. Its just that the people deserve none of the two - or do they? I mean they endlessly tolerate it and even vote it into office time and again. If the EU criticses Orban, I just can laugh and hand them a mirror.

[Reece]

:haha::haha: Oh the state of the world does not paint a pretty picture!! :doh::oops:

[Jimbuna]

Mafia-Orban taking EU money and giving it to his family, while tryingvto destroy the EU and join Moscow... unbelievable.
Eu should instantly drop Hungary 😡

Agreed :yep:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2hdP9KdQtQ

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GltBjgB-34A

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDnBdRE8YHA

[mapuc]

I listen a lot to this Danish military expert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4mZPc_kkys

Markus

[Skybird]

The West still rejects reality. We are dancing a sleepwalking waltz deeper and deeper into the new world war that already is raging in form of many small wars that in their total sum threaten to overwhelm us. And what do we do? We pull the blanket over our heads and close the eyes. Europe is both militarily and potlically weakl and oncreaiosngly economically as well. The US is militarily still strong but looses strength with every year's quarter passing, and politically is indifferent, undecided and weak. Trump or Biden - both choices can and will make it only worse.

https://www-t--online-de.translate.goog/nachrichten/ausland/krisen/id_100380374/russlands-krieg-und-globale-konflikte-putin-fuehlt-sich-ungeheuer-ermutigt-.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true

[mapuc]

You said Europe is weak, Even NATO is weaker than we may think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY7GPBSyONU

Markus

[Dargo]

You said Europe is weak, Even NATO is weaker than we may think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY7GPBSyONU

MarkusAs of 2024, NATO had approximately 3.39 million active military personnel, compared with 1.32 million active military personnel in the Russian military. The collective military capabilities of the 32 countries that make up NATO outnumber Russia in terms of aircraft, at 22,308 to 4,814, and in naval power, with 2,258 military ships, to 781. Russia's ground combat vehicle capacity is more competitive, however, with 14,777 main battle tanks, to NATO's 11,390. The combined nuclear arsenal of the United States, United Kingdom, and France amounted to 5,943 nuclear warheads, compared with Russia's 5,977. Any that says we are weak are delusional. In light of these figures, NATO's GDP surpasses China's by 2.554 times and Russia's by an astonishing 20.5 times. Do your maths!

We see Russia failing against a minor army and those armchair analyst say we are weak only defeatists defeatism never won a war they surrendered beforehand and there will be no WW3 you really think Russia is capable or dears to risk a nuclear war nah we are in a new Cold War that is it. Do not think China will support a WW3 either they do not want to lose their biggest costumers "the West" that we gone prepare for a war is the whole concept of a Cold War let Russia know we are ready for them.

And now for the reason why Mark Rutte became the new NATO chief:
It was at the infamous 2018 NATO summit, where tensions skyrocketed. Trump talked and talked. He said, I want 4 percent and I want you all to come back in one hour and tell me where you got it from. 'After an hour, Trump began discussing countries' contributions, one by one. He began to rattle off Slovenia. '1 percent. Those never give you what you want anyway, better just take what you can get there. Next. There was silence. And then Mark spoke. Everyone thought: what is he doing? He said, "Stop, Donald! This is not right. You know we all liked Barack, he was our friend, but he didn't force us to increase our defence spending. You did! Under your leadership, we spent 41 billion more on defence in the last two years! Unbelievable, never seen before. So stop this and tell the world that you forced us to spend 41 billion more. Trump thanked him. 'I already knew you were the smartest of the bunch since you visited me at the White House. Today you saved NATO, Mark.' And he walked out and gave a press conference and bragged about that 41 billion.'

[mapuc]

As of 2024, NATO had approximately 3.39 million active military personnel, compared with 1.32 million active military personnel in the Russian military. The collective military capabilities of the 32 countries that make up NATO outnumber Russia in terms of aircraft, at 22,308 to 4,814, and in naval power, with 2,258 military ships, to 781. Russia's ground combat vehicle capacity is more competitive, however, with 14,777 main battle tanks, to NATO's 11,390. The combined nuclear arsenal of the United States, United Kingdom, and France amounted to 5,943 nuclear warheads, compared with Russia's 5,977. Any that says we are weak are delusional. In light of these figures, NATO's GDP surpasses China's by 2.554 times and Russia's by an astonishing 20.5 times. Do your math!

I think it hasn't so much to do with the comparison between NATO and Russia

One of NATO's weakness lay in the technology- A German fighter jet, like Tornado can't just land in Denmark, Sweden or in one of the Baltic states and get a refuel and rearmed. The same goes for the British Harriet.
(This I learned in a documentary about NATO)

This is why more and more European countries is buying the American F-35 so a pilot can land in whatever NATO country he desire and get a refuel and a new ammo loaded.

Markus

[Dargo]

I think it hasn't so much to do with the comparison between NATO and Russia

One of NATO's weakness lay in the technology- A German fighter jet, like Tornado can't just land in Denmark, Sweden or in one of the Baltic states and get a refuel and rearmed. The same goes for the British Harriet.
(This I learned in a documentary about NATO)

This is why more and more European countries is buying the American F-35 so a pilot can land in whatever NATO country he desire and get a refuel and a new ammo loaded.

MarkusIt has all to do with what we have and how rich we are, we out equip, produce the shyte out of Russia when we in a war with them. We train since the beginning with all those different technology for decades we can do this like Ukraine can handle all those different technologies. We buy the American F-35 because we already fly its former generation fighter. I can only speak for the Netherlands there it was no real choice, our air force is a US air force since WW2. We train and fight with the US for decades, so no real surprise we choose American fighters.

[Skybird]

I agree that most peoples' natural first ideas about how a confrontation would look like, are misled and based on historical examples that are just no longer valid.

In fact i am convinced that we are already under Russian attack right now, and since years, and not just metaphorically. In form of sabotage acts (for example in Berlin a big fire at a defence industry-relevant factory is linked to Russian intel operations, or take the attack on the inner-finnish pipeline in the Baltic three, four months ago - we all have our suspicions who is behind that, dont we). Cyber attacks anyway. Sociological attacks by supporting trouble-making minorities, extremist parties and special interest groups, destabilising communal integrity and cultural cohesion as well as manipulating public opinion formig and political decision making.

I also have big doubts that in case of a traditional land, air and sea war with Russia, all NATO countries would answer the call equally. Not to mention that NATO'S heavy hittem, the US, has its firepower not just concentrated in Europe, but around the glove, is scattered around. So are European NATO forces, most of them would be away from the actual frontlines. I also have doubts on the quality of not just the German but the French, Italian and other troops as well, on the available quantity and material reserves anyway.

Russia tries to set the world ablaze in ways we are ill equipped and prepared to deal with, and in ways that suit its own competences best. Maximising our disadvantages and maximising their advantages. China does the same, so does Iran. And obviously the West finds it extremely difficult to answer to this adequately.

We also lack the public toughness to accept the conflict as what it is, and pulling off our gloves. We prefer to spend - and dive even deeper into debts - for social topics and climate theatre. Defence still is just a word. NIMBY.

We could do better. But we do not want to do better, because then we would need to do things differently and live in another world and set different priporities, and this is what we refuse to accept.

Reality will teach us. Mercilessly. Its not a question of "if" but only "when" it will hit us like a crashing satellite dropping off orbit. Or one of the light spots falling off the artifical sky ceiling in the Truman show, and right onto our head. That then will ruin more than just the rest of that day.

[mapuc]

It has all to do with what we have and how rich we are, we out equip, produce the shyte out of Russia when we in a war with them. We train since the beginning with all those different technology for decades we can do this like Ukraine can handle all those different technologies. We buy the American F-35 because we already fly its former generation fighter. I can only speak for the Netherlands there it was no real choice, our air force is a US air force since WW2. We train and fight with the US for decades, so no real surprise we choose American fighters.

Do not doubt me when I say in an open conflict NATO will kick Russians behind

I just say that NATO isn't as strong we wanna make it.

Markus

[Dargo]

There are on the moment eight battle groups in the eastern part of NATO alliance territory. If they are attacked, the NATO Response Force (NRF) will react in a very short time. Allies have placed thousands of additional troops – along with armoured vehicles, artillery units, ships and aircraft – at high readiness earmarked for the NRF, ensuring that it continues to have the speed, responsiveness and capability to defend NATO territory and populations. We already prepare for an attack and Russia sees this and do not kid yourself to think they so stupid with +80% of their army in Ukraine they will start a war with the biggest allied army of this globe. If Russia attacks, it attacks the whole of NATO.
As of December 2023, the eight battle groups are composed of the following Allies:

Host nation: Bulgaria
Framework nation: Italy
Contributing nations: Albania, Greece, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Türkiye and the United States

Host nation: Estonia
Framework nation: United Kingdom
Contributing nations: France and Iceland

Host nation: Hungary
Framework nation: Hungary
Contributing nations: Croatia, Italy, Türkiye and the United States

Host nation: Latvia
Framework nation: Canada
Contributing nations: Albania, Czechia, Iceland, Italy, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Spain

Host nation: Lithuania
Framework nation: Germany
Contributing nations: Belgium, Czechia, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway and the United States

Host nation: Poland
Framework nation: United States
Contributing nations: Croatia, Romania and the United Kingdom

Host nation: Romania
Framework nation: France
Contributing nations: Belgium, Luxembourg, North Macedonia, Poland, Portugal and the United States

Host nation: Slovakia
Framework nation: Czechia
Contributing nations: Germany and Slovenia

All with highly better training and equipment, good luck to them beating NATO.

[mapuc]

There are on the moment eight battle groups in the eastern part of Nato alliance territory. If they are attacked, the NATO Response Force (NRF) will react in a very short time. Allies have placed thousands of additional troops – along with armoured vehicles, artillery units, ships and aircraft – at high readiness earmarked for the NRF, ensuring that it continues to have the speed, responsiveness and capability to defend NATO territory and populations. We already prepare for an attack and Russia sees this and do not kid yourself to think they so stupid with +80% of their army in Ukraine they will start a war with the biggest allied army of this globe. If Russia attacks, it attacks the whole of NATO.
As of December 2023, the eight battle groups are composed of the following Allies:

Host nation: Bulgaria
Framework nation: Italy
Contributing nations: Albania, Greece, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Türkiye and the United States

Host nation: Estonia
Framework nation: United Kingdom
Contributing nations: France and Iceland

Host nation: Hungary
Framework nation: Hungary
Contributing nations: Croatia, Italy, Türkiye and the United States

Host nation: Latvia
Framework nation: Canada
Contributing nations: Albania, Czechia, Iceland, Italy, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Spain

Host nation: Lithuania
Framework nation: Germany
Contributing nations: Belgium, Czechia, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway and the United States

Host nation: Poland
Framework nation: United States
Contributing nations: Croatia, Romania and the United Kingdom

Host nation: Romania
Framework nation: France
Contributing nations: Belgium, Luxembourg, North Macedonia, Poland, Portugal and the United States

Host nation: Slovakia
Framework nation: Czechia
Contributing nations: Germany and Slovenia

All with highly better training and equipment, good luck to them beating NATO.

No they wouldn't stand chance this why wrote in my last comment.
"Do not doubt me when I say in an open conflict NATO will kick Russians behind"

The question is rather-When will NATO be taking part in the war in Ukraine? Which step have to be taken by the Russian for this to happen or will it happen whether Russia does this or that.

I don't think Russia is going to attack a NATO country military, but more like cyber attacks against our infrastructure and/or sabotage.

Markus

[Dargo]

No they wouldn't stand chance this why wrote in my last comment.
"Do not doubt me when I say in an open conflict NATO will kick Russians behind"

The question is rather-When will NATO be taking part in the war in Ukraine? Which step have to be taken by the Russian for this to happen or will it happen whether Russia does this or that.

I don't think Russia is going to attack a NATO country military, but more like cyber attacks against our infrastructure and/or sabotage.

MarkusNATO will not enter Ukraine to fight against Russia for the same reason Russia will not fight against NATO, this would mean a change of a nuclear conflict and no side is willing to risk that. It will go like in Cold War 1.0 when both sides did proxy wars.

[Gorpet]

If things go bad, Putin and Kim mull a war on the Korean pensinsula. There is a historical precedence. And Putin will try his best to set the world aflame in as many regio al wars as he can, to distract the West and force the US to divert its ressources, and to divide NATO.

In a way, Russia already has started WW3.

Western peace doves are so totally off topic, its almost surreal.

Because one thing China, Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea want more than anything else: to shatter the former world order that formed up after WW2.

There is nothing we can do to prevent that. We can only do our best to be prepared for getting along in the new world order the forces of darkness enforce for everybody. Its called "survivval of the fittest".

I dont see that we do our best in this regard. Far from that. And I even do leave out for the moment Islam'S conquest in the West, which is the enemy already standing inside our cities, inside our walls instead of before them - because we let it in unneeded, voluntarily, without necessity.

Well if things go bad, you won't have to worry about Islam and the what's left of the German people. Or the British and Irish and all the Migrants trying to get to the land of milk and honey. The French will scream we didn't start this.

And this is a fact, The United States and their NATO allies. Have set the world Aflame,with their cry of Democracy. And in Belgium lies the heart of a new World Order. I as an American can't even afford to travel from the shores of America to Belgium to hob nob or integrate and live with God's. Those who will rule the world. I can only hope that somebody will have time triggered nuclear weapons waiting.for the Highest IQ's to come out from their holes in the ground.

[Skybird]

In an interview with Der Tagesspiegel. Former British defence state secretary Lord Hamilton said that "obviously" it were not the West's goal that Ukraine would win the war.

I agree, its quite obvious indeed. Talking of false friends. Paris and Berlin never wanted it and never will want it. A growth of Ukraine's influence in Europe would come at France's and Germany's massive cost: politically, economically and financially.

Puke if you want, I want it for sure, too.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BfGDyI8gKs

[Jimbuna]

Russia-Ukraine war: Frontline update as of June 22

Since the beginning of the day, June 22, the Russian army has been increasing the pace of offensive and assault operations, looking for ways to penetrate our defense. The Russians are trying to drive Ukrainian units out of the established lines, reports the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

According to the General Staff, the number of combat engagements along the entire frontline has increased to 121 since the beginning of the day. The situation is the hottest in the Pokrovsk sector. At the same time, Ukrainian defenders are giving a worthy rebuff to the occupiers, destroying personnel and equipment.

Situation at the frontlines

Kharkiv region continues to suffer from insidious rocket and bomb attacks from the territory of the Russian Federation. In the afternoon, Russian militants struck civilian infrastructure in Kharkiv and its suburbs with four rocket launchers. As a result of such insidious and criminal actions of the aggressor, civilians suffered. Unfortunately, there are dead and wounded.
At the same time, enemy aircraft attacked Vesele with four guided aerial bombs, and the enemy dropped another one on the settlements of Vovchansk, Lisne, and Lyptsi. It is worth adding that the enemy tried to attack twice today in the area of Vovchansk, our troops repelled one assault, and another battle is ongoing.

In the Kupiansk direction, Ukrainian defenders have repelled 14 enemy assaults near Synkivka, Stepova Novoselivka, Andriivka, Myasozharivka, Stelmakhivka, and Pishchane since the beginning of the day. Three more firefights are currently ongoing there.

Eight enemy attacks failed near Terny and Nevske in the Lyman direction.

In the Kramatorsk direction, the enemy tried four times to drive our units from their positions near Ivanivske, Hryhorivka, and Nove. Ukrainian troops repelled three attacks, and one is still ongoing.

In the Toretsk direction, the number of enemy attacks increased to 14. The units of the Defense Forces repelled eight assaults by the invading army, six attacks are still ongoing.

In the Pokrovsk direction, the enemy is not slowing down the pace of the offensive. Since the beginning of the day, the enemy has attacked Ukrainian defenses 38 times. Twenty-seven of the aggressor's attacks were unsuccessful, and 11 more are ongoing.

Fighting continues in the Kurakhove direction. Since the beginning of the day, the enemy has been attacking near Krasnohorivka, Heorhiivka, and Paraskoviivka. The total number of attacks here has increased to 14, of which eight have been repelled and six are still ongoing.

According to ISW analysts, the Russian troops may have intensified their attacks in the Toretsk sector. Their goal there is to intensify the offensive on Chasiv Yar from the south.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israeli-drone-strike-kills-hamas-weapons-supplier-25-miles-inside-lebanon/ar-BB1oHFzY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=ff97de62e87b4a4fa7651c44e7ec5fa5&ei=84

[Skybird]

The F-16s will come with their own complications.



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[mapuc]

The F-16s will come with their own complications.



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Comes as no surprise for me. I would have done exactly the same. Hit them on the ground and bomb areas needed for these fighter jet.

Markus

[Dargo]

Comes as no surprise for me. I would have done exactly the same. Hit them on the ground and bomb areas needed for these fighter jet.

MarkusOh swell, we have found another defeatist telling us only the F-16 is easily destroyed such a bad plane why we ever build this jet what a mistake was this oh it needs a runway the horror it needs protection that Ukraine MIGs does not need. Russia claimed they destroyed Ukraine air force tenfold now the F-16 arrive they certainly destroy it hundredfold. Even if the F-16 is stationed in NATO countries accord this armchair annalist, Russia will destroy them. Do you really believe this? Pff, what a load of bull.

Ukraine has a better army than Germany an army that integrated the Abram, Leopard, Patriot and so many different other logistical systems Ukraine learned this quicker than any NATO member can, but NO Ukraine will lose this is German thinking from the beginning so any German based media only publish this because as a nation after WW2 they become defeatist.

Recent successful Ukrainian strikes on Russian air defences in the occupied Crimea regions suggest Ukraine is clearing the airspace in preparation for F-16 deployments with what do the Russians now detect and destroy F-16s like they brag about constantly during this invasion.

[Jimbuna]

A year after mutiny, Kremlin controls Wagner remnants

Russia has effectively dismantled and replaced the Wagner Group in the year since the mercenaries shocked the world by launching a mutiny against President Vladimir Putin’s government, experts have told the BBC.

Yevgeny Prigozhin – the late leader of the paramilitary force – crossed from Ukraine on 23 June 2023 and seized the southern city of Rostov after months of increasing tensions with military leaders in Moscow.

His forces then began a brief charge towards the capital, meeting virtually no resistance. The “march for justice”, as Prigozhin called it, came to an abrupt end the following day after he called off the advance.

Just two months later, Prigozhin's plane crashed and he was killed along with several other senior Wagner members, throwing the group’s future into uncertainty.

Dr Sorcha MacLeod, a member of the UN's working group on mercenaries and lecturer at the University of Copenhagen, said ex-Wagner troops had fragmented across the Russian state.

"[Wagner] may not exist in exactly the form it did previously, but a version - or even versions - of it continue to exist," she told the BBC. "There's been this sort of dispersal amongst the Russian state so there is no one overall controller."

"The Wagner Group was incredibly important geopolitically and economically to Russia, so it was never going to disappear as some people suggested," she added.

For years, Prigozhin’s forces had been a valuable and deniable tool for Russian operations across Africa and Syria. But it was in Ukraine – as Moscow’s conventional forces struggled to dent Kyiv’s defences – that Prigozhin and Wagner came into the open.

Throughout late 2022 and early 2023, Wagner was key to Russia’s few battlefield victories. Its forces – largely made up of ex-prisoners – managed to take the eastern city of Soledar, before it became entrenched in months of intense fighting in the meat-grinder of Bakhmut.

At its peak Wagner had around 50,000 mercenaries in Ukraine, according to the US National Security Council.

Now, experts say Wagner’s operations in Ukraine have been subsumed by other Russian state and paramilitary units. One ex-Wagner commander recently told BBC Russian that the mercenaries had been ordered to “join the ministry of defence” or to go away.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4nn1p81q59o

[mapuc]

Oh swell, we have found another defeatist telling us only the F-16 is easily destroyed such a bad plane why we ever build this jet what a mistake was this oh it needs a runway the horror it needs protection that Ukraine MIGs does not need. Russia claimed they destroyed Ukraine air force tenfold now the F-16 arrive they certainly destroy it hundredfold. Even if the F-16 is stationed in NATO countries accord this armchair annalist, Russia will destroy them. Do you really believe this? Pff, what a load of bull.

Ukraine has a better army than Germany an army that integrated the Abram, Leopard, Patriot and so many different other logistical systems Ukraine learned this quicker than any NATO member can, but NO Ukraine will lose this is German thinking from the beginning so any German based media only publish this because as a nation after WW2 they become defeatist.

Recent successful Ukrainian strikes on Russian air defences in the occupied Crimea regions suggest Ukraine is clearing the airspace in preparation for F-16 deployments with what do the Russians now detect and destroy F-16s like they brag about constantly during this invasion.

The F16 is not a wonder weapon far from it and it ain't a surprise that an enemy would do anything to prevent Ukrainian fighter jet like the F16 to launch, by bombing the airfields

Furthermore the F16 has one big disadvantage - Its huge air intake in bottom of its fuselage The runway on which it takes of or land has to be clean very clean

In the air it will be a threat to the Russian aviation

Another thing one thing is sending missiles against airfields another thing is to reach the targets and explode. If I was the Ukrainian I would put up lots of defence around these airfield.

Edit
This is where the F16 would come in good use. Shoot down these Russian fighter jets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPqw3FAt744
End edit

Markus

[Skybird]

It's not about defeatism, but realism and exaggerated expectations. The Vipers will do something effective, but are no wonder weapon. And as I said, the Vipers come with their own complications. And in way too low numbers (again).

[Rockstar]

The F-16s will come with their own complications.



https://www-fr-de.translate.goog/politik/angriffskrieg-russland-putin-f-16-kampfjets-ukraine-luftwaffe-marschflugkoerper-verluste-offensive-93146029.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de

A U.S. congressional report stated the logistical and security problems of furnishing arms including F16’s to Ukraine. Can’t remember his name but one General has already stated F16 are not the game changer many think they are. They just simply allow more options of what can strapped under their wings.

As far as training goes, look at what happened to Warsaw Pact pilots. It was soon found that you can NOT teach an old dog new tricks and they were eventually given desk jobs or let go. A younger generation who never flew before had to be taught.

So basically if we are training experienced UKR pilots they most likely will be flying F16’s with old Soviet doctrine. If we are teaching fresh young inexperienced hard chargers it can take much longer to train but they will be able to use get the most out of it.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtM54JXE3c0

[mapuc]

We could be concentrating on the positive news and only post articles on how well the Ukrainian army is fighting the Russians.

We could be concentrating on the negative news and only post articles on how badly it goes for the Ukrainian army in fighting the Russians.

Because there are areas at the frontline where Ukraine have success while they at other places on the frontline have lesser success where Russia has the momentum.

The Russians are gaining a few meters per day with massive losses, but they are advancing slowly.

Wonder how many is being killed or wounded among the Ukrainians where they have the momentum or where they are defending areas where Russia have momentum ?

Markus

[mapuc]

Couldn't find an English version of this story

https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/politik/danskpolitik/traening-af-ukrainske-piloter-paa-dansk-jord-stopper-efter-2024/10278259?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Russia updating its nuclear doctrine amid 'current realities'

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, citing an earlier statement by Vladimir Putin, told a briefing that "work is under way to bring the doctrine into line with current realities".

He did not provide any further details.

The nuclear doctrine currently states it may use nuclear weapons in response to a nuclear attack or in the event of a conventional attack that poses an existential threat to Russia.

Tensions between Moscow and the West have increased dramatically in the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, with the Kremlin persistently claiming it is fighting a proxy war with the West.
Since the start of the war, some hawks within Russian politics have advocated for Moscow to revise its nuclear doctrine - and others have threatened an attack on the West.

Mr Putin said last week that Russia was thinking about changing its doctrine because its potential enemies were working on "new elements" around lowering the threshold for nuclear use.

"In particular, explosive nuclear devices of extremely low power are being developed. And we know that there are ideas floating around in expert circles in the West that such means of destruction could be used," he claimed.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-updating-its-nuclear-doctrine-amid-current-realities/ar-BB1oNgYK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=315df26879754b16a8c0fd0ee667096d&ei=20

[mapuc]

They are hitting the Russians where it hurts most

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNYzIssEN2g

Markus

[Catfish]

Russia updating its nuclear doctrine amid 'current realities'
Interesting what happens when little children cannot have their way
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcl5zwRBHY

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFNKT11MMeg

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNY4CUHDawo

[mapuc]

Do your job well or get sacked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fcfOS1p2aA

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Vladimir Putin unleashes chemical weapons on Ukraine as pitched battles rage in east

Putin's army has used chemical weapons on the battlefield in Ukraine 715 times during May, according to Kyiv's military.

This represents a significant increase from April, officials said on Monday.

Such weapons are prohibited under the terms of the 1997 Chemical Weapons Convention of which Russia is a signatory.

However, this has not stopped the Kremlin from deploying the lethal weapons when it sees fit to do so.

In a post on Facebook, the Ukraine's Support Forces said most cases were of CS gas, also referred to as tear gas and which is often deployed by police forces against rioters.

It was used extensively during World War I before the 1925 Geneva Protocol banned the use of chemical and biological weapons in war.

The Support Forces said that a total of 2,698 cases had been recorded for the period between February 15 and May 24, 2024.

A total of 1,385 Ukrainian soldiers required medical treatment as a result of the use of the gas.

Russia has deployed the choking agent chloropicrin against Ukraine's army in previous instances.

US officials said Russia used the lethal agent to win "battlefield gains" over Ukraine.

Chloropicrin is an oily substance which was widely used during World War One.

It causes irritation of the lungs, eyes and skin and can cause vomiting, nausea and diarrhoea, according to the US Centre for Disease Control (CDC).

Russia has stepped up it attempts to seize the strategic town of Chasiv War in Ukraine's Donbas region.

Ukraine's 24th Mechanized Brigade, which has ben sent to defend the town, admitted that fighting had become "extremely difficult".

"The enemy is constantly organising massive frontal assaults, and also trying to bypass the settlement from the north and south," they said, adding that Russian forces were "mercilessly shelling" the area.

According to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), Russian capture of Chasiv Yar would be "operationally significant".

It would give Moscow's forces favourable positions from which to launch offensives against Kostyantynivka and Druzhkivka, cities that form the southern portion of a Ukrainian defensive belt.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/vladimir-putin-unleashes-chemical-weapons-on-ukraine-as-pitched-battles-rage-in-east/ar-BB1oQqIy?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=0c50188269f748c8b3d8c8c3427cf817&ei=14

[Jimbuna]

ICC issues arrest warrants for Russian officials over alleged Ukraine war crimes

The international criminal court (ICC) at The Hague has issued arrest warrants for Russia’s ex-minister of defence and current army chief of staff for alleged war crimes in Ukraine after a missile campaign targeting Ukrainian power plants and other civilian infrastructure during the full-scale invasion.

Ex-minister of defence Sergei Shoigu and the chief of the general staff of the Russian armed forces, Valery Gerasimov, are accused of the war crimes of directing attacks at civilian objects and of causing excessive incidental harm to civilians or damage to civilian objects. They are also accused of crimes against humanity.

The Hague issued warrants for their arrest, but they are unlikely to be able to serve them as the pair are in Russia, which is not a party to the ICC and has denounced the court. Ukraine is not a member of the ICC but has given the court jurisdiction to prosecute war crimes committed on its territory since 2022. Shoigu was removed as the minister of defence last month but has remained a senior government official as the head of Russia’s security council.
The court has previously issued warrants for the arrest of Vladimir Putin and Russia’s human rights ombudsman, Maria Lvova-Belova, for their role in the forcible deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia. A number of the children have been adopted by Russian officials or put up for adoption under false identities.

The Ukrainian president, Volodomyr Zelenskiy, said the ICC’s decision to issue the warrants against Shoigu and Gerasimov was “a clear indication that justice for Russian crimes against Ukrainians is inevitable”.

He wrote on Telegram: “Every criminal involved in the planning and execution of these strikes must know that justice will be served. And we do hope to see them behind bars.” He added that he looked forward to “more arrest warrants in order to deprive Russia of its sense of impunity”.

Announcing the warrants, the court wrote there “are reasonable grounds to believe that the two suspects bear responsibility for missile strikes carried out by the Russian armed forces against the Ukrainian electric infrastructure from at least 10 October 2022 until at least 9 March 2023. During this timeframe, a large number of strikes against numerous electric power plants and substations were carried out by the Russian armed forces in multiple locations in Ukraine”.

The court said it had “reasonable grounds to believe that the suspects intentionally caused great suffering or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health, thus bearing criminal responsibility for the crime against humanity of other inhumane acts”.

Russia has argued that electrical infrastructure in Ukraine represents a legitimate military target. The strikes have led to rolling blackouts across Ukraine, and have threatened crucial supplies of heating to the population in winter when temperatures fall below freezing.

Zelenskiy said this month that Russia had damaged or destroyed more than half of Ukraine’s power generation, causing the worst rolling blackouts since the invasion began in 2022.

In its statement, the court said it believed the strikes were “directed against civilian objects, and for those installations that may have qualified as military objectives at the relevant time, the expected incidental civilian harm and damage would have been clearly excessive to the anticipated military advantage”.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/icc-issues-arrest-warrants-for-russian-officials-over-alleged-ukraine-war-crimes/ar-BB1oRmFI?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=f4c8660c4eee4e4e9523d532745be8a4&ei=81

[mapuc]

Russia is Running Out of EVERYTHING (Planes, Ships, Soldiers, Tanks....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7HJmDhcQQo

Markus

[Reece]

I wish that was true Markus But I think it is a case of wishful thinking!! Propaganda video imo. :hmmm:

[Skybird]

American mercenaries for Ukraine?


https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/biden-administration-american-military-contractors-ukraine/index.html

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIBqKRCs6Ac

[mapuc]

I wish that was true Markus But I think it is a case of wishful thinking!! Propaganda video imo. :hmmm:

Could very well be a propaganda video-However the number of tanks being destroyed per year is much higher than the yearly production of same.

Since start of the war 3000 tanks has been destroyed, which means around 1500 tanks per year and Russian factories can only produce 6-700 per year.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

North Korea risks WW3 as it sends 'cannon fodder' troops to fight for Putin in Ukraine

Kim Jong-un is set to send troops to Ukraine amidst growing fears of the escalating conflict between Russia and the West.

Warlord Vladimir Putin signed a defence pact alongside the North Korean dictator as the Russian leader visited Pyongyang last week, promising military assistance with one another. Since the agreement, it's been announced North Korea would send units to the Donetsk region as Russia continues its invasion.

Fears are rising about the state's involvement in the Ukraine conflict, with North Korea having already supplied arms to Russia. It's thought Pyongyang has already sent up to 1.6million shells to help Russia's war.

The military alliance has been condemned by scores of countries in the West, including the US. The Pentagon said North Korean troops being sent to Ukraine meant they would face slaughter, questioning Kim Jong-un's motive.

Spokesman Pat Ryder said in a briefing: "I think that if I were North Korean military personnel management, I would be questioning my choices on sending my forces to be cannon fodder in an illegal war against Ukraine." The US would continue to monitor the alliance surrounding growing anxieties.

The alliance signed by Putin and Kim states: "In case any one of the two sides is put in a state of war by an armed invasion from an individual state or several states, the other side shall provide military and other assistance with all means in its possession without delay."

Allies US, Japan and South Korea have already expressed "grave concern" about the military pact. Pyongyang in return has hit out at the US for sending arms to Ukraine.

A former Russian MP told the Express that North Korea is an important bridge between the Kremlin and China, allowing Beijing to transfer military equipment to Moscow without falling foul of Western sanctions. Ilya Ponomarev explained: "North Korea is one of key Russian partners and the meaning of the rationale behind them becoming such a partner is because they are acting as a bridge between China and Russia."

"Essentially all this military equipment that is supposed to be delivered from North Korea once was developed for North Koreans by the Chinese. China is cautious not to get under secondary sanctions by the United States, but North Korea is not in danger."

"So there is no problem for Chinese to assist North Koreans and then North Koreans to make trade with Russia and benefit from this both financially and in terms of military development."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/north-korea-risks-ww3-as-it-sends-cannon-fodder-troops-to-fight-for-putin-in-ukraine/ar-BB1oVNdJ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=28e83b0e68ee4512a90facaf14e6ff24&ei=20

[mapuc]

^ It would mean an escalation no doubt about it. Here's more about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfYUopjxWOM

Markus

[Dargo]

^ It would mean an escalation no doubt about it. Here's more about it



MarkusThey are mostly for labour Russia lacks over 3 million in their workforce and over 600000 in the war industry

[mapuc]

They are mostly for labour Russia lacks over 3 million in their workforce and over 600000 in the war industry

Oh I see and I who thought it was regular army little Un would send to Ukraine(Donetsk)

Markus

[em2nought]

All of this to prevent an election in November. :har:

[Dargo]

American mercenaries for Ukraine?


https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/biden-administration-american-military-contractors-ukraine/index.htmlProfit?
US contractor sent experimental Howitzer to Ukraine for combat testingAn experimental Howitzer system was secretly delivered to Ukraine’s army to be used against invading Russian forces, according to an American defense contractor whose disclosure in May recently began circulating on social media. The 2-CT Hawkeye consists of a 105 mm Howitzer mounted on a Humvee and is described by its producer, Indiana-based AM General, as the lightest, most maneuverable self-propelled Howitzer in the world.

Mike Evans, who oversees the company’s artillery programs, announced at the U.S. Field Artillery Association’s Fires Symposium last month that Ukraine had received a Hawkeye system that was shipped April 26. However, his comments gained wider attention only in recent days after a video from the symposium started being reposted online. “We trained it for two weeks,” Evans said. “They immediately went into testing, and that system’s destined to be one of the first soft recoil systems in combat. It’s going right into combat to test on live targets.”

Soft recoil technology, or SRT, enables heavy artillery to be put on light, maneuverable ground vehicles such as Humvees. It does so by significantly reducing the recoil shock of the weapon, which lessens the chances of recoil-induced rollovers. ... https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2024-06-26/experimental-howitzer-delivered-ukraine-14302046.html

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jImmRg0iX-8

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnUZY-YbXBw

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cky5HLsSmgI

[mapuc]

I've seen three different videos talking about this NK thing.

In each of them they talked about little Un planning on sending troops to Donetsk or was it engineers he would send ?

Someone said to me here in this thread that it was a workforce to help Russia in their war factories, little Un would send.

I say both may be right-Un sending both troops/Engineers and workforce

Markus

[Dargo]

I've seen three different videos talking about this NK thing.

In each of them they talked about little Un planning on sending troops to Donetsk or was it engineers he would send ?

Someone said to me here in this thread that it was a workforce to help Russia in their war factories, little Un would send.

I say both may be right-Un sending both troops/Engineers and workforce

MarkusThis is what I saw in the news. North Korean construction workers and engineers in military service will be sent to Ukraine to assist Russian troops behind the front with "reconstruction works." The intention there would be to help the Russians rebuild infrastructure in the Donetsk region that has been destroyed by the violence of war. It is not clear whether the North Koreans would also engage in military construction work. For now, there would be no talk of sending North Korean combat troops to the front in Ukraine.

According to Chosun, relying on a senior South Korean government official, the North Korean military could send three or four of its 10 brigades of engineer troops to Ukraine, accounting for thousands of troops. That could bring the country up to $115 million a year in much-needed cash. The U.S. think tank Institute for the Study of War (ISW) also says it has no indication for now that North Korea will send combat troops any time soon. However, the ISW does point out that logistical support could help free up other Russian military personnel to be sent to the front that way.

[mapuc]

^ Thank you for the explanation.

So in a way it is a workforce NK is sending.


Markus

[mapuc]

More on these Danish F-16

(Translated article)

The Danish F-16 aircraft are long awaited in Ukraine, but according to the head of the Danish air force, it may take a long time before they make a difference on the battlefield.

https://nyheder-tv2-dk.translate.goog/2024-06-27-der-gaar-lang-tid-foer-danske-f-16-fly-goer-en-forskel-i-ukraine-siger-chef-for-flyvevaabnet?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELwIKzmLCWA

[Dargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvKbDoQ5-HM

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi3y07kjdkk

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0SaXiFHzw4&t=8s

[Jimbuna]

Russia's losses in Ukraine as of June 29: +1070 troops, 7 tanks and 57 artillery systems


Russia's losses in the war against Ukraine amounted to 1,070 occupiers on June 28, bringing the total number of Russian army losses since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine to 541,560 military personnel. In addition, the Ukrainian Defense Forces destroyed 7 tanks and 57 artillery systems, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The total combat Russian losses from February 24, 2022, to June 29, 2024, are estimated to be:

・personnel - about 541,560 (+1,070) Russian troops were eliminated;

・tanks - 8,073 (+7) units;

・armored combat vehicles - 15,505 (+25) units;

・artillery systems - 14,480 (+57) units;

・MLRS - 1,109 units;

・air defense systems - 871 units;

・aircraft - 360 units;
・helicopters - 326 units;

・UAVs of operational and tactical level - 11,538 (+29) units;

・cruise missiles - 2,331 (+2) units;

・ships/boats - 28 units;

・submarines - 1 unit;

・motor vehicles and tankers - 19,568 (+54) units;

・special equipment - 2,436 (+5) units.

Earlier, the head of a research organization that has been tracking weapons used in attacks against Ukraine since 2018 stated to the United Nations Security Council on Friday that there is indisputable evidence that the ballistic missile remnants found in Ukraine were supplied by North Korea.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-s-losses-in-ukraine-as-of-june-29-1070-troops-7-tanks-and-57-artillery-systems/ar-BB1p6EEO?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=0e74dd010af74a25a166cc05fc4ae6ec&ei=118

[mapuc]

Optimistic they are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp2kDtg3QVQ

Markus

[mapuc]

Sorry Reece this video is fake, it's from the game Arma 3

If it had happened in real life-Our news provider would tell us.

Markus

[Reece]

Deleted the post Markus, sure looked real. :oops::doh:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q72W6SFrJJs

[mapuc]

@ Reece
Yes it looks genuin Have seen hundred of hours on YT of this gameplay. The News agency is being bombarded with these kind of videos. In the beginning of the war some news source posted some of these videos but removed them when they were told that it was fake.

It looks like the Ukrainians having succes in their offensive at some places on frontline.
If the news I get is correct.

The Russian is running tired, it seems.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

We have one killed Ukrainian for six Russians, - Zelenskyy on ratio of losses in war

This was stated by President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy in an interview with The Philadelphia Inquirer, Censor.NET reports.

The head of state was asked how Ukraine could overcome Russia's superiority in manpower and weapons.

"From what I have seen in two weeks in Ukraine, including a visit to the eastern frontline, it makes sense... It is true that they have many more people, and it is true that we care more about our people. But today we have one dead Ukrainian for six Russians on the eastern and northern fronts," the Ukrainian leader said.

The President also noted that it was a war of technologies. He stressed that the one who is more technologically advanced can win.

"This is a different war, a war of technology, and the one who is more technologically advanced will win," Zelenskyy said.

It should be noted that Ukraine does not disclose its military losses. However, on 25 February 2024, President Zelenskyy stated that 31,000 Ukrainian defenders had been killed during the full-scale invasion. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3497399

[Skybird]

I think that over the year 2026, maybe even 2027, we may start to see the wearing down of the Russian military producing visible and feelable effects in the Russian economy, to a degree that the situation then indeed may become destabilizing and dangerous for the Kremlin.

So I see this war running on as in the past two years for at least another one and a half year, or even two years. Not before then the economic problems for Russia will become so manifest that they will create effects the Russian military cannot escape any longer. Not to mention the destabilizing of state and society, though a physically violent dictatorship like in Russia helps to keep the lid on the kettle.

Until then all expectations for a Russian collapse or loss imo are simply premature.

Whether the Ukrainians can hold out this long and then, in the future, will retake what they have lst - well, ask me again in two to three years. European and American patience and long breath are in question and cannot be taken for granted.

So in the end the Kremlin nevertheless may declare victory while economically collapsing at the same time.

For the time being I see no chance for a "Ukrainian victory" worth the name. They just lack the material and personnel, they can hurt the Russians, but not throw them out.

My scepticism still prevails.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4OA0jR4h8A

[Jimbuna]

War Footing: World on Edge as Russia is Told to 'Demonstrate' Nuclear Explosion to 'Scare' West

Athink tank known to have significant influence over the policies of Russia suggested that President Vladimir Putin should consider a "demonstrative" nuclear explosion in a bid to deter the West from supporting Ukraine.

Knewz.com has learned that the suggestion came right on the heels of Putin's warning regarding Ukraine's use of Western weapons to strike Russian territories.

Dmitry Suslov, a senior member of the Moscow-based think tank Council for Foreign and Defence Policy, wrote about the suggestion in the Russian business magazine Profile towards the end of May 2024.

"In order to confirm the seriousness of Russia's intentions and the conviction of our opponents that Moscow is ready to escalate, it is worth considering a demonstration (i.e. not a military) nuclear explosion," Suslov wrote.

"The political and psychological effect of the nuclear mushroom, which will be shown live by all the television channels of the world, I hope, will return to Western politicians that one, which prevented wars between the great powers after 1945 and that they have now largely lost, – fear of a nuclear war."

His suggestion came at a time when the Western allies of Ukraine had been deliberating the scope of the nation's use of foreign weapons in the war.

Initially, Germany and the United States were on the fence regarding Ukraine's use of their weapons to strike targets beyond the embattled nation's border with Russia.

In an interview with Tagesschau television on May 26, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz mentioned his intention to stay firm on his weapons policy: "There are clear rules that have been agreed with Ukraine and that apply to the supply of German weapons. At least, that is my position."

In his article on Profile, Suslov said that "if a positive decision is made on this issue," it "will bring the conflict to a fundamentally different level, it will mean erasing one of the brightest 'red lines' that existed since February 24, 2022."

He added that the move would signal "the direct entry of the United States and NATO into the war against Russia."

The Russian think tank senior member also said that "the voices of those who claim that this time Moscow will not cause military damage directly to Western countries are louder."

"This logic inevitably leads to the third world war. And if right now the further involvement of the West in the conflict in Ukraine is not stopped, then the full-fledged, "hot" war between Russia and NATO will become inevitable."

"Moreover, due to the superiority of the United States and NATO in the field of conventional weapons, this war will certainly go to the nuclear level," Suslov added.

He suggested that in order to deter the Western bloc from letting Ukraine use its weapons on Putin's territory, Russia needs to carry out a mock nuclear explosion, thus making a more tangible threat to the West regarding its weapons policy.

Suslov's threats came a day after President Putin warned the West of "serious consequences" regarding the same.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/war-footing-world-on-edge-as-russia-is-told-to-demonstrate-nuclear-explosion-to-scare-west/ar-BB1pdHgJ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=7d3cb1e489a84757b3f01269208790e3&ei=16

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szCepxrGQnw

Markus

[Jimbuna]

^ That was reported four posts earlier Markus

[Jimbuna]

Zelenskyy discusses key areas of further US assistance with bipartisan US Congressional delegation.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy met with a bipartisan delegation from the US House of Representatives.

According to Censor.NET, the president wrote about this in his telegram channel.

The meeting focused on the main areas of further US assistance, including additional air defence systems.

"This is critical as Petriot systems help save lives and protect infrastructure. I am grateful to US President Joseph Biden, both houses and parties of Congress, and the entire American people for their continued leadership in supporting Ukraine," Zelenskyy said. Source: https://censor.net/en/p3497585

[mapuc]

^ That was reported four posts earlier Markus

:oops:
I knew I had read about it somewhere, which I was thinking when I posted the video.

Markus

[Skybird]

Wishing wishes.



https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise/ukraine-krieg-hat-putin-bald-keine-waffen-mehr-experten-zerpfluecken-steile-kriegs-these_id_260097749.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFErs59fw5k

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3U2tdTqLKY

[Jimbuna]

Russian experts scrutinise US ATACMS missile guidance systems

RIA Novosti agency reports, citing an anonymous arms specialist, that Russian experts are examining American ATACMS ballistic missiles. According to him, they are focusing on analysing the missile's guidance system and flight correction, which have recently caused concern for the Russian army.

It should be remembered that Russia uses state media to spread misinformation and propaganda. Therefore, it isn't easy to definitively assess the accuracy of RIA Novosti's reports. However, Russians, Ukrainians, and Americans study enemy weapons to learn as much as possible about them and use the acquired knowledge to create effective countermeasures.

RIA Novosti does not explain how Russian experts acquired the ATACMS missile or its parts. However, the agency released a recording that allegedly shows the "internal construction" of the missiles provided by the United States to Ukraine, particularly the guidance and flight correction systems.

The aforementioned arms specialist reportedly told RIA Novosti: "The combat parts of the ATACMS missile were presented. The guidance system. It includes three laser ring gyroscopes that keep the missile on its programmed ballistic trajectory. The GPS antenna allows for trajectory correction at the initial and final stages of the ballistic trajectory."

At the end of 2023, deliveries of ATACMS ballistic missiles to Ukraine in the M39 version began. This version allows for hitting targets up to 100 miles away. Later, there were reports that Washington was also considering providing Kyiv with long-range ATACMS missiles, up to 190 miles. At the end of April 2024, the first reports appeared that this precision weapon was already in Ukraine.

The ATACMS missiles are essentially large rockets, four metres long and weighing over 1.5 tons, developed and produced by Lockheed Martin. The weapon was created to meet the needs of the US Army regarding capabilities for striking deep behind enemy lines and deep within enemy territory. The missiles can attack enemy air defences, command centres, or logistics hubs.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russian-experts-scrutinise-us-atacms-missile-guidance-systems/ar-BB1pe0mb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=89aaa2a88798472195fd9c8291380470&ei=61

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDKUImRW7wE

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Russian forces place missile system dangerously close to beach in Crimea

Russian armed forces stationed on the occupied territory of Crimea have decided to deploy an anti-aircraft missile system near a beach in Sevastopol. This is another action that carries potential danger for civilians, writes Atesh, the Ukrainian-Tatar resistance movement operating on the peninsula.

"The Rashists (Russians) have once again chosen an 'ideal' location for deploying their anti-aircraft system. This time, the missile system is located right above the beach, which again poses a threat to the local community", stated Atesh on the Telegram platform, where they also posted photos of the setup.

Atesh reminded that Ukrainian armed forces regularly attack Russian radar stations and missile systems in Crimea.
These actions aim to "create a corridor" to the bridge over the Kerch Strait, which connects the peninsula with Russia. "The countdown of the final moments of the 'illegal structure' has begun," announced the Crimean partisans.

On 23rd June, the occupation authorities in Crimea reported a Ukrainian missile attack on Sevastopol. As a result of this attack, four people were killed, and 151 were injured.

Russia accused the United States of supplying the weapons used in the attack. According to Russia, at least two children were killed in the attack. Russia also claims that American military specialists were responsible for guiding the missiles and providing data for them. One of the missiles was shot down over the beach.

Experts from the Institute for the Study of War believe that the Russian army is likely deliberately placing military objects near civilian areas in Crimea in an attempt to stop Ukrainian attacks.

The analysis emphasised that the Russian authorities are irresponsibly encouraging tourist trips to the occupied Crimea during the war, even though the Russian army continues to use the occupied peninsula as a rear base.

Sevastopol, located on the west of the Crimean Peninsula, is the main base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russian-forces-place-missile-system-dangerously-close-to-beach-in-crimea/ar-BB1peH3p?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=bf0fd016168349e78bfca7b67b0fc703&ei=57

[Dargo]

Has Russia Blown its 2024 Opportunity in Ukraine?Russia may never get an another opportunity like the past six months. An updated assessment of Russia’s 2024 offensives. Back in May, I explored the potential Russian objectives for its military operations in 2024, and how it was progressing towards those objectives. Russia has built strategic momentum with its ground and aerial assaults on Ukraine over the past six months. Most analysts of the war agree that Russia still has the initiative in this war. But what does that really mean for Russia’s prospects in the war, and the possibility of it achieving its strategic objective of subjugating Ukraine and ensuring Ukraine cannot provide an alternative model of governance visible to the politically repressed Russian people?

To assess how Russia’s 2024 campaigns in Ukraine is going, and whether it has maximised its opportunities this year, it is necessary to briefly explore what Russia set out to achieve in Ukraine this year. Back in early April, I explored how the Russians might view success in 2024. You can read that article here (https://mickryan.substack.com/p/russias-ukraine-campaign-in-2024). However, to summarise, what does Putin want in 2024? ... https://mickryan.substack.com/p/has-russia-blown-its-2024-opportunity

[Skybird]

Orban is in Kiyv and has the nerve to tell Zelensky vis a vis he should cease fire, allow peace negotiations and in principle should forget about those 20% of the country Ukraine sees occupied by the Russian fascists.



Hungary still is all on gas, and gets it all from Russia. With no sign of trying seriously to change that.

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVDV-kHzeT0

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Orban is in Kiyv and has the nerve to tell Zelensky vis a vis he should cease fire, allow peace negotiations and in principle should forget about those 20% of the country Ukraine sees occupied by the Russian fascists.



Hungary still is all on gas, and gets it all from Russia. With no sign of trying seriously to change that.

I'm surprised the EU haven't kicked him out never mind making him the current President.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnDjf-kH9FA

[Dargo]

NATO allies commit to €40 billion support for Ukraine in 2025NATO member states have reached an agreement on a €40 billion aid package for Ukraine in 2025, according to two Western diplomats cited by Reuters. The decision is expected to be formally approved at the NATO summit in Washington, 9-11 July. The ongoing war in Ukraine is set to be a focal point at the upcoming NATO summit. As Kyiv intensifies its efforts to secure a formal invitation to join the alliance, NATO members are deliberating over key phrases such as “bridge to NATO” or “irreversible path” to describe Ukraine’s potential accession process.

While falling short of NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg’s call for multi-year commitments of at least €40 billion annually, allies agreed to review contributions at future summits. They also plan to prepare two reports in 2025 detailing each country’s support to Ukraine. According to media reports, the Washington summit will also introduce NATO Security Assistance and Training for Ukraine (NSATU), a new structure coordinating long-term assistance to Ukraine. Discussions are underway about appointing a special NATO representative in Kyiv to oversee weapons supplies and training coordination for Ukrainian forces. https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/07/03/reuters-nato-allies-commit-to-e-40bn-support-for-ukraine-in-2025/?swcfpc=1

[Jimbuna]

Five killed by Russian strike in central Ukraine

At least five people have been killed by a Russian drone and missile strike on the central Ukrainian city of Dnipro, officials say.

A further 53 people were injured in the blast early on Wednesday morning, regional governor Serhii Lysak wrote on Telegram. Officials said shops, schools and hospitals were damaged by the strike.

Mr Lysak described the attack as "vicious". Footage shared on social media showed a large plume of smoke and fire erupting from buildings after the blast.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky condemned the attack and renewed his appeal to Western allies to supply his government with further air defence systems.

"Only two things can stop this Russian terror – modern air defence systems and the long-range capabilities of our weapons," he wrote on social media.

Dnipro, a city with a pre-war population of about a million people, has been a frequent target for Russian attacks since the war began over two years ago. Last year, 40 people were killed after a Russian missile slammed into a residential apartment building in the city.

Ukraine's air force said it downed six drones and five out of seven missiles which had targeted the city early on Wednesday.

But images posted by Mr Lysak after the barrage showed buildings ripped open in the city centre, with glass shattered and strewn across the ground.

Georgii, an elderly witness sporting a bandaged nose and bloodied face, told the Reuters news agency: "There was such a strong explosion that the wave hit me and I fell."

Among the injured was a 14-year-old girl, Mr Lysak said. Four other people in serious conditions were being treated at hospital, he added.

The head of the regional council, Mykola Lukashuk, condemned what he called an act of "cynical terror" by Russian forces. An official day of mourning has been declared by city officials.

Elsewhere, two civilians were killed in overnight strikes in eastern Ukraine, officials in Donetsk and Luhansk have said. In Kharkiv, one person was killed and eight more injured - including an eight-year-old boy - in a Russian bombing raid, local prosecutors said.

Russia has intensified its aerial attacks on Ukraine in recent months. While Moscow denies targeting civilian infrastructure, the UN's human rights monitoring mission said May was the deadliest month for civilian casualties in almost a year.

President Zelensky has issued increasingly urgent requests for new air defence systems in that time, urging his allies in the West to ignore Russian threats that such actions could trigger an escalation of tensions.

On Tuesday, he met Hungary's Prime Minister, Victor Orban, who has just taken over the rotating presidency of the Council of the European Union.

Mr Orban has long been Russian President Vladimir Putin's closest ally in Europe and has frequently criticised EU aid packages for Ukraine. The men's body language was not warm during the tense meeting in Kyiv, with Mr Orban urging Mr Zelensky to seek a ceasefire and expedited peace negotiations.

Elsewhere, Russia's defence ministry said on Wednesday that it had captured a key district in the hilltop settlement of Chasiv Yar. The small town in eastern Ukraine has been at the centre of intense fighting for months.

The town, which has been flattened by endless shelling, is viewed as a potential staging ground for Russian forces as they advance on the remaining Ukrainian-held areas in the Donetsk region.

Kyiv has yet to comment on the claims.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's military intelligence agency has said it was behind a fire which broke out on a Russian warship in the Baltic Sea in April.

GUR spokesperson Andriy Yusov told Reuters that the agency had targeted the Serpukhov missile ship, operating in tandem with a pro-Kyiv group called the Freedom of Russia legion.

"As a result of the sabotage, [we] managed to ruin the ship from inside and completely destroy communication and its means of automation," the legion said on its Telegram account.

It comes as Moscow claimed Ukraine carried out three drone strikes on the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant on Thursday. The plant's Russian management said several workers were injured in the attack.

The UN's nuclear watchdog - the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) - called the attacks a "a threat to nuclear safety and people’s lives", adding that they "must stop".

Kyiv has yet to comment on the accusations. The plant has been under Russian control since March 2022 and has come under frequent attacks, with both sides trading blame.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce78nr3253jo

[Dargo]

Orban is in Kiyv and has the nerve to tell Zelensky vis a vis he should cease fire, allow peace negotiations and in principle should forget about those 20% of the country Ukraine sees occupied by the Russian fascists.



Hungary still is all on gas, and gets it all from Russia. With no sign of trying seriously to change that.Gazprom raised its gas tariffs to its highest level in 11 years (Gazprom does not make profits, only debts), so loser Orbán needs Ukraine to stop else he will lose power when Hungary people see their gas bills for coming winter. :D Like with food, you do not want a gas riot, it only takes 2.5% of people that are against you as wannabe dictator to gift you a one way ticket to Moscow.

[mapuc]

Gazprom raised its gas tariffs to its highest level in 11 years (Gazprom does not make profits, only debts), so loser Orbán needs Ukraine to stop else he will lose power when Hungary people see their gas bills for coming winter. :D Like with food, you do not want a gas riot, it only takes 2.5% of people that are against you as wannabe dictator to gift you a one way ticket to Moscow.

Yea maybe Orban will do a Petro Poroshenko and flee to Russia.

Markus

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHQE9xXt_bE

Markus

[em2nought]

Russia's middle class crushed
Markus

Whose middle class hasn't been crushed? :hmmm:

[mapuc]

Whose middle class hasn't been crushed? :hmmm:

Good question.
As long Putin have the support from his middle class he is safe on his throne-If they turns the wrath against him....he's done.

Markus

[Skybird]

Colonel Reisner, two days ago.



https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/politik/Reisners-Blick-auf-die-Front-Bei-Wowtschansk-liegen-Ukrainer-und-Russen-sich-wie-in-Stalingrad-gegenueber-article25055958.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYG6jHHDjDI

[Jimbuna]

Kremlin Rejects Erdogan: Turkey Will Not Mediate in Ukraine Conflict

The possibility of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan serving as a mediator in negotiations over the Ukraine conflict has been firmly dismissed by the Kremlin. Dmitry Peskov, the official Kremlin spokesperson, stated unequivocally that Erdogan cannot be a mediator in these discussions.

According to Lenta when asked if the Turkish leader could play a mediating role, Peskov responded, "No, it is impossible." He added that the topic of resolving the Ukrainian conflict was addressed during a two-hour meeting between Erdogan and Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) summit in Astana.

During their conversation, Erdogan assured Putin that Ankara would continue its efforts to achieve peace in Ukraine. Erdogan suggested that the conflict could be resolved first through a ceasefire, followed by peace negotiations. He expressed confidence that a fair peace, satisfying both sides, is achievable.
In June, Putin proposed a peace plan for Ukraine, outlining two conditions for a ceasefire. These included the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions, as well as the Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics. Additionally, Ukraine would need to formally renounce its aspirations to join NATO.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/kremlin-rejects-erdogan-turkey-will-not-mediate-in-ukraine-conflict/ar-BB1pobVD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=ea565d65d0f44deb9f1a023f4476a6d1&ei=45

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyCMA54ejRU

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5N7wUnPKmw

[mapuc]

This video and others are telling me that the way war is being fought has changed a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBG0NGAnUvw

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Russians start loading submarines with missiles in Novorossiysk - Ukrainian Navy

Russia has learned to arm its submarines with cruise missiles, currently loading them in Novorossiysk, according to the spokesperson for the Ukrainian Navy, Dmytro Pletenchuk.

"The country that calls itself a superpower couldn't bring a crane to load missiles for six months. The main problem was not storage but usage," Pletenchuk explained.

He also added that the recent attacks have been carried out using submarines that are constantly based in Novorossiysk.

Earlier this week, we reported that Russia deployed a submarine armed with Kalibr missiles in the Black Sea. Additionally, according to the Ukrainian Navy, Russia is losing its naval center in Crimea. More details - in RBC-Ukraine's material.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russians-start-loading-submarines-with-missiles-in-novorossiysk-ukrainian-navy/ar-BB1ptQuB?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=455270de39a0467aac5b382b1cfea5b6&ei=12

[Dargo]

This video and others are telling me that the way war is being fought has changed a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBG0NGAnUvw

MarkusThe old Soviet stock reaching the bottom already we see the extinction of several types of military vehicles problems with recruitment and what is lost on the fronts, basically Russia has come to the point that its army in Ukraine does not grow but flatlines. That why the buzz by Putin about a cease fire but do not trust it Moscow disinfo is still "Ukraine losses and Russia is victories do not bet on the losing side Western countries" this is not working, so I wish him another 1–2 years of war than this Great Helmsman, exceptional, glorious chairman has lost its army. Russia than can start again what the soviet's build up in 70 years Putin lost in like 5 years this will not be not in a decade neither in decades rebuild. With its economy getting destroyed by the war production, it will not come back this century as it was under soviet time and afterwards. It was backwards several economies under the czar the soviets could lift it up hardly equal as our economy and guess what another Russian leader destroyed all that hard work sacrificed by millions of blood.

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMpnD3TpECg

Markus

[em2nought]

The thought of what happens if Putin runs out of conventional weapons is disturbing to say the least. :hmmm:

[mapuc]

The thought of what happens if Putin runs out of conventional weapons is disturbing to say the least. :hmmm:

That's gonna take some time-He has a huge arsenal from the Soviet era and add new production to it.

Markus

[Dargo]

That's gonna take some time-He has a huge arsenal from the Soviet era and add new production to it.

MarkusNew production is low and Soviet era arsenal has about a year or two of equipment that can be activated, what is left is for the scrap metal trade.

[mapuc]

New production is low and Soviet era arsenal has about a year or two of equipment that can be activated, what is left is for the scrap metal trade.

Maybe your right when you say most of it is left for scrap. The production of tanks is around 6-700 per year or 50-58 per month. I do not know how many howitzer they produce per year.

Secondly I think Iran, NK and China will step up their deliverance of weapon and ammo when Russia starts to run out of their own.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyUddV-sKvY

[Jimbuna]

Destruction of rare T-90S tanks marks shift in Ukraine war

Ukrainians have reported the destruction of additional Russian armoured vehicles. Among these is the T-90S. This tank is rarely featured in frontline reports, as the Russians initially did not plan to deploy it there.

Ukrainian military and political commentator Oleksandr Kovalenko wrote about the Russians' losses in the Donetsk region on his Telegram profile. In his post, he explained, among other things, how the T-90S tanks ended up in Ukraine. Earlier, other commentators and analysts had suggested that the Russians changed their minds and decided to send available T-90S tanks to the front as a supplement due to numerous losses.

"The T-90S is the export version of the T-90 with a very interesting history. They were mainly sent under contracts to India as the T-90S Bhishma, but some tanks did not pass acceptance due to poor assembly quality and other problems/defects. During the export deliveries, a certain number of these tanks accumulated, and from November-December 2022, they began to be sent to the front," explained the Ukrainian.

The T-90S tank is very similar in equipment to the standard T-90 used by the Russian army. It has an engine with 1,000 horsepower, allowing the crew to accelerate the vehicle to a maximum speed of 65 km/h. Like the T-90, the tank's offensive capabilities primarily rely on the 125 mm 2A46M-3 smoothbore gun. Additionally, the tank is armed with 7.62 mm and 12.7 mm machine guns.

The T-90S is somewhat stripped down compared to the original. It does not have the TszU-1 Shtora-1 electro-optical self-defence system. Instead, Russian designers implemented space for reactive armour.

It is unknown how many T-90S units have reached the front to support the fighting Russian forces. However, Oleksandr Kovalenko notes that the destruction of each such tank is rare.

According to various sources, the total number of destroyed T-90S tanks in Ukraine is estimated to be between 10 and a maximum of 15 units. However, from the Russian perspective, the losses of all T-90 family tanks appear much worse, with at least 150 units already destroyed.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/destruction-of-rare-t-90s-tanks-marks-shift-in-ukraine-war/ar-BB1pur0x?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=6dcc4215992844958bc615922aaebd01&ei=30

[Dargo]

The production of tanks is around 6-700 per year or 50-58 per month. Secondly I think Iran, NK and China will step up their deliverance of weapon and ammo when Russia starts to run out of their own.

MarkusThat Russian production is based on lies always was even in Soviet times that is the Russian way on top of the incompetent management in general those numbers are way lower. Proof is in the pudding if this Russia is so great why do we not see those new tanks or other extinct equipment at the fronts right because they do not make them the lot is so corrupt it can not even produce the basic BMP's instead they welt all sort of strange cages onto tanks to protect infantry. For Iran, NK and China do not expect they can produce what it takes in Ukraine. Iran with their flying mopeds is no threat, North Korea can only produce inferior munition and china is good at copy/paste soviet stuff we see how good this Russian system working even the feared S300, S400 and S500 are failing the test in real war.

This video explains Russia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMpnD3TpECg

[mapuc]

^ I presume you are correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Xc-CXOlSE

Markus

[mapuc]

That Russian production is based on lies always was even in Soviet times that is the Russian way on top of the incompetent management in general those numbers are way lower. Proof is in the pudding if this Russia is so great why do we not see those new tanks or other extinct equipment at the fronts right because they do not make them the lot is so corrupt it can not even produce the basic BMP's instead they welt all sort of strange cages onto thanks to protect infantry. For Iran, NK and China do not expect they can produce what it takes in Ukraine. Iran with their flying mopeds is no threat, North Korea can only produce inferior munition and china is good at copy/paste soviet stuff we see how good this Russian system working even the feared S300, S400 and S500 are failing the test in real war.

Follow up with this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1IboDZPs8c

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDv36oOYHhs

[Reece]

Golf buggies, now that is desperate and funny, not to mention the vests!! :har::har:

[Jimbuna]

Szijjártó advises European politicians who "support war" to fasten their seat belts and watch out for Orbán’s new "peace meetings"

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban intends to take certain "peaceful steps" next week.

This was stated by Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto.

In particular, he first published a post with a statement about the first week of the Hungarian presidency of the European Union.

"Now everyone can be sure that the next six months will be a mission of peace to finally ensure peace in our region," he said.

Then a video appeared on the page. In it, Szijjártó said that this week Europe was allegedly full of pro-war politicians who were "hiding and criticising" Prime Minister Viktor Orbán for meeting with Vladimir Putin after his visit to Ukraine.

Orban's visit to Moscow

On 5 July, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban paid an official visit to Moscow. In the Russian capital, he met with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.

During a joint press conference with Putin, Orban made several statements about Russia's war against Ukraine. In particular, he stressed that Kyiv and Moscow's positions on peace are "very far apart".

In turn, a number of European leaders reacted rather sharply to the Hungarian prime minister's visit to Moscow. They stressed that Orban did not represent the EU in Russia during his meeting with Putin.

Before his visit to Moscow, Orban visited Kyiv. On 2 July, he met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3498506

[mapuc]

^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CURnVR6kmMk

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Leaked Documents Show Over 500,000 Russian Casualties in Ukraine War

The number of Russian troops lost in Ukraine has exceeded those prepared for the large-scale invasion of February 2022, according to Hotnews.

Surpasses World War II
These casualties also surpass the combined losses Russia has faced in military conflicts since World War II, including invasions of Czechoslovakia, engagements in Africa and Asia, the war in Afghanistan, and the invasion of Georgia.

On July 5, independent Russian media outlets Meduza and Mediazona reported that approximately 120,000 Russian soldiers have been killed since the start of the invasion.

The Ukrainian General Staff estimates that Russian military personnel losses exceeded 500,000 by the end of May, including both fatalities and injuries.

The Economist notes that for every Russian soldier killed in action, there are about three to four wounded, with significant losses among those aged 35 to 39, where up to 27,000 have been killed.

Despite these heavy losses, Russia continues to recruit between 25,000 and 30,000 new soldiers each month, as reported by the New York Times, citing U.S. officials.

This recruitment rate is sufficient to replenish the troops and sustain the Russian military's human wave attacks. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stated that around 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed, marking the only public address regarding Ukrainian military casualties since the invasion began.

The ongoing conflict has resulted in severe impacts on both sides, with recent estimates suggesting that about 2% of all Russian men aged 20 to 50 have been either killed or severely wounded since the war began.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/leaked-documents-show-over-500-000-russian-casualties-in-ukraine-war/ar-BB1pyvhe?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=52b0d3982a0d4c62a2b6e9a90ad5f068&ei=146

[Jimbuna]

Russia-Ukraine war: Frontline update as of July 7

151 combat clashes took place at the frontline in the past day. The Russian troops mostly attack in the Pokrovsk, Lyman, and Kurakhove directions, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Sectors updates

In the Kharkiv sector, the enemy continued offensive and assault operations with the support of aviation, with a total of 11 combat clashes in the areas of Vovchansk, Hlyboke, and Lyptsi.

In the Kupiansk sector, the number of combat clashes increased to seven over the last day. Defense forces repelled enemy attacks in the areas of Synkivka, Petropavlivka, and Stelmakhivka in the Kharkiv region.

In the Lyman sector, the Ukrainian Armed Forces prevented 20 Russian attacks near Hrekivka, Makiivka, and Nevske in the Luhansk region, Terny and Torske in the Donetsk region.
In the Siversk sector, the Defense Forces repelled five attacks in the areas of Spirne and Vyimka in the Donetsk region.

In the Kramatorsk sector, Ukrainian defenders stopped 11 enemy attempts to break through the Ukrainian defenses in the areas of Klishchiivka, Kalynivka, Ivanivske, and Andriivka in the Donetsk region.

In the Toretsk sector, the aggressor was active, launching 16 attacks in the vicinity of Toretsk, Pivnichne, Zalizne, and New York in the Donetsk region.

In the Pokrovsk sector, the Ukrainian Armed Forces repelled 49 Russian attacks near Yurivka, Novooleksandrivka, Vozdvyzhenka, Kalynove, Lozuvatske, Progress, Novoselivka Persha, Yevhenivka, Yasnobrodivka and Karlivka in the Donetsk region.

In the Kurakhove sector, the Defense Forces continue to hold back the enemy in the areas of Krasnohorivka, Paraskoviivka, and Kostiantynivka, where the enemy tried to break through the defense of Ukrainian troops 19 times.

In the Vremivka sector, the enemy made four attacks on Ukrainian positions near Vodiane in the Donetsk region.

Four combat clashes took place in the Orikhiv sector. The enemy received a fierce rebuff near Robotyne and Novodanylivka.

In the Prydniprovskyi sector, the Russian army continues to try to drive the Defense Forces units from their positions on the bridgeheads on the left bank of the Dnipro River. They conducted five attacks, but were unsuccessful.

The operational situation in the Volyn and Polissia sectors remained unchanged. No signs of the formation of enemy offensive groups were detected.

On the border with the Chernihiv and Sumy regions, the enemy maintains a military presence, conducts sabotage and reconnaissance activities, and shells settlements from the territory of Russia.

Russian losses in Ukraine

Over the past day, the aviation and missile troops and artillery of the Defense Forces hit two artillery systems, a Buk anti-aircraft missile system, a UAV control center, and 22 areas where personnel were concentrated.

Overall, the total losses of the Russian military amounted to 1,150 servicemen over the last day. Ukrainian troops also neutralized 2 tanks, 16 armored combat vehicles, 40 artillery systems, 1 air defense system, 53 UAVs, one cruise missile, 50 vehicles, and 16 pieces of special equipment.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-ukraine-war-frontline-update-as-of-july-7/ar-BB1pya6J?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=27673537ebdd4502a093e162b34e4258&ei=32

[vanjast]

I'll put a spanner in the works here.

This Ukraine/Russian war has not happened, as it's presented on all the media, and that's all it is.. a 'media war'.

As far as I can tell, there was a special military op that was completed in weeks and this probably happen long before this 'war'. The rest of the 'war' is a series of grainy videos, lots of so called media outlets.. etc.

The media deception/distraction has been a staggering success, as with the convid scam and the Israel story - Coming soon to a screen near you.:03:
:D

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khPWN8xVcDc

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmRVKsIEC7c

[Reece]

Russia launched a massive missile attack
https://au.news.yahoo.com/childrens-hospital-kyiv-hit-missiles-061100185.html
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/521617/at-least-20-dead-in-russian-attack-on-ukraine-cities

https://youtu.be/xVeUwVEam_o

[Jimbuna]

Russia's losses in Ukraine as of July 8: +29 artillery systems and 1 plane

Russian losses in the war in Ukraine from July 7 to 8 amounted to another 1,200 occupiers. Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the aggressor country has lost approximately 552,190 soldiers. Additionally, over the past day, the Ukrainian Armed Forces destroyed 40 armored combat vehicles and 29 artillery systems, according to the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The total Russian combat losses from February 24, 2022, to July 8, 2024, are esimated as follows:

・Personnel: 552,190 (+1,200) eliminated

・Tanks: 8,171 (+16) units

・APV (Armored personnel vehicles): 15,685 (+40) units

・Artillery systems: 14,966 (+29) units

・MLRS (Multiple launch rocket systems): 1,115 units

・Anti-aircraft warfare systems: 880 (+1) units
・Aircraft: 361 (+1) units

・Helicopters: 326 units

・UAVs operational-tactical level: 11,893 (+31) units

・Cruise missiles: 2,353 (+1) units

・Warships/boats: 28 units

・Submarines: 1 unit

・Vehicles and fuel tankers: 20,150 (+47) units

・Special equipment: 2,503 (+8) units

According to ISW, the Defense Forces successfully counterattacked in the Kharkiv region, while the Russians advanced near Toretsk in the Donetsk region.

The Armed Forces may disrupt Russian offensive operations with strikes using Western weapons on Russian territory.

Last night, Russia attacked Ukraine with cruise missiles launched from Tu-95 strategic bombers.

Additionally, on Sunday, July 7, Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners shot down a Russian Su-25 attack aircraft.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-s-losses-in-ukraine-as-of-july-8-29-artillery-systems-and-1-plane/ar-BB1pAOzG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2571ed9a8cf94790a5db77c5d833f505&ei=47

[Dargo]

Russia launched a massive missile attack
https://au.news.yahoo.com/childrens-hospital-kyiv-hit-missiles-061100185.html
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/521617/at-least-20-dead-in-russian-attack-on-ukraine-cities

https://youtu.be/xVeUwVEam_oLets hope this cruel attack give NATO on the summit tomorrow good reasons to give Ukraine more arms and lift restrictions on their use. Russia didn't hit one, but three hospitals in Ukraine today. Two in Kyiv and one on Dnipro, it is a doctrine with them.

[Skybird]

It is to be hoped.



https://www-nzz-ch.translate.goog/feuilleton/ukraine-charkiw-unter-beschuss-und-russlands-innere-schwaeche-ld.1837599?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_hist=true

[Dargo]

It is to be hoped.



https://www-nzz-ch.translate.goog/feuilleton/ukraine-charkiw-unter-beschuss-und-russlands-innere-schwaeche-ld.1837599?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_hist=trueLike Lenin said "There are decades when nothing happens—and there are weeks where decades happen,". Timing is all when his supporters refuse to restore order and defend the regime any longer, the longer this war continuous, the more Putin loses support.

[Reece]

Lets hope this cruel attack give NATO on the summit tomorrow good reasons to give Ukraine more arms and lift restrictions on their use. Russia didn't hit one, but three hospitals in Ukraine today. Two in Kyiv and one on Dnipro, it is a doctrine with them.
What really annoys me is that it is ok for Russia to use weapons and ammo from NK,Iran and China to strike Ukraine but Ukraine can't use western weapons to strike Russia!! :timeout: I would mention this to Poo-tin and start bombing Russia! :yep:
BTW, I'd give Ukraine some nukes as a deterrent to Russia! :yep:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kf0yjbsfh4

[Skybird]

Like Lenin said "There are decades when nothing happens—and there are weeks where decades happen,". Timing is all when his supporters refuse to restore order and defend the regime any longer, the longer this war continuous, the more Putin loses support.
I have my hopes which I usually not care to voice, since hopes are cheap and mean little. And I have my rational assessments which are the basis of my expectations. The gap between both usually is quite big.

I absolutely hope for quite the same what you hope for. :up: But I differ with your expectations. :03: Thats why our views often collide.

And you know what? I hope you are right and I get proven wrong.


Until then I have no choice and must remain what I am by nature: an open-minded sceptic.

[Commander Wallace]

What really annoys me is that it is ok for Russia to use weapons and ammo from NK,Iran and China to strike Ukraine but Ukraine can't use western weapons to strike Russia!! :timeout: I would mention this to Poo-tin and start bombing Russia! :yep:
BTW, I'd give Ukraine some nukes as a deterrent to Russia! :yep:


Your comment and post struck a nerve. Sadly, IMHO, a lot of the blame for the Ukraine war resides with the stupid shortsightedness of the U.S and the U.K. When the breakup of the Soviet Union occurred, The U.S, England, and Russia convinced the Ukraine to give up what is estimated to be thousands of Nuclear Weapons. This was known as the Budapest Memorandum. It was thought that the maintenance of these weapons would be too costly for the Ukraine to handle. Certainly, The Ukraine could have retained possession of at least some of these weapons to act as a deterrent. This stupid decision is being revisited now. To be sure, both the U.K and the U.S have been financially responsible in helping the Ukraine fight off Russia. To their credit, the U.S and the U.K honored their security arrangements with the Ukraine to varying degrees.


https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

There were also TU-160, mach 2 capable, Black Jack Bombers based in the Ukraine from the former Soviet Union which Russia also wanted back. If the Ukraine had retained possession of these strategic weapons, this war may very well have never even started.

[mapuc]

Until then I have no choice and must remain what I am by nature: an open-minded sceptic.

As I use to say Expect the worse and hope for the best.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Russian missile strike on Ukraine ‘was timed to divide Nato leaders at summit’

Russia’s daylight missile barrage on Ukraine was timed by the Kremlin to divide Nato ahead of the alliance meeting to discuss further support for the country, experts have told i.

Some 40 missiles, including hypersonic artillery, rained down over Ukraine in broad daylight on Monday morning, striking five major cities. At least 41 Ukrainians were killed and a further 170 injured.

The country’s largest children’s hospital was almost entirely destroyed, as the fierce Russian assault interrupted heart surgeries and forced medics to treat young cancer patients outdoors. Mothers were seen running from the stricken building clenching onto their babies. At least 27 people were killed in the capital, including two staff members at the hospital and three children.
Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky called on the West to increase its supply of air defence systems to Ukraine following the deadliest wave of Russian airstrikes for months, which he branded “genocidal”.

After Mr Zelensky threatened to retaliate, Ukraine launched a wave of drones into Russia, Russian officials said on Tuesday. One person was killed, while two power substations and an oil depot caught fire.

President Joe Biden said the US would be announcing “new measures to strengthen Ukraine’s air defences” and “help protect their cities and civilians” as Nato leaders gathered for a Washington summit.

“It is critical that the world continues to stand with Ukraine at this important moment and that we not ignore Russian aggression,” he said.

Experts said that the Kremlin probably intended the attack to warn off Nato members from providing further assistance to beleaguered Ukraine.

“This is all timed for the Nato summit,” Dr Rod Thornton, a Russian military specialist at King’s College London and former infantry sergeant in the British Army, told i.

He said the use of “expensive” missiles, including a Russian Kinzhal hypersonic missile that travels at 10 times the speed of sound, showed the Kremlin considered the mass attack “a special occasion” to “affect the Nato summit”.

“They’re not going to fling these things every day. They’re normally using your bog-standard drones – not sophisticated missiles which are very hard to intercept,” he said, explaining that the missiles used in Monday’s attack were “expensive” and used “sparingly”.

“They want to create this impression that Russia might be winning so that certain Nato countries will ask if we really want to continue this war where people are getting killed, children are getting killed,” Dr Thornton said. “They want to try and split Nato basically, to give Nato an extra thing to think about.

“You’ve got to get yourself in the Russian mindset. It’s no use applying a Western mindset to Russian actions.”

Dr Thornton said he expected Ukraine to return from the summit this week with “a lot of rhetorical support” along with “some announcement of extra help”.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russian-missile-strike-on-ukraine-was-timed-to-divide-nato-leaders-at-summit/ar-BB1pFT2b?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=78727b2fd41b4611b24d57bbac0a6a8f&ei=107

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iSYWA2VD7s

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Okhmatdyt being dismantled brick by brick for 10 hours now. Report from the site

On the morning of July 8, Russia struck Ukraine's largest children's hospital, Okhmatdyt, with a Kh-101 missile. The direct hit resulted in the deaths of two people and injured 16 others, including ten children. Rescue workers have been clearing the rubble for almost ten hours.

For details on the aftermath and ongoing rescue efforts, read the report on RBC-Ukraine.

The wailing sirens of ambulances and rescue services do not cease for a moment in the Okhmatdyt area, and the streets are gridlocked. A continuous stream of people flows through the gates leading to the hospital's main entrance. They bring water, respirators, bags, and food. It feels like all of Kyiv has gathered here, which is not surprising given that one of Ukraine's most renowned children's hospitals has been hit by shelling.
A Russian Kh-101 missile struck the hospital directly. By midday on July 8, a video of the missile plummeting and hitting the Okhmatdyt building had spread across all social networks. Russian propaganda, along with the Russian Ministry of Defense, had already issued numerous theories about what happened to the hospital—from claims of Ukrainian air defenses to allegations of a NATO base. However, footage of the Russian cruise missile hitting the building left no room for disinformation.

The Kh-101 hit the hospital's infectious disease wing. At that moment, children with cancer were undergoing dialysis procedures there. Doctors, well-versed in emergency protocols, managed to save the children from the direct hit, but many were still injured. Periodically, patients are carried out through the gates—clinging to the adults carrying them, with bandaged heads and IV needles in their arms.

By midday, the area around the wing is buzzing. People—civilians, military personnel, rescue workers, and doctors—form long lines surrounding the damaged building, clearing the debris. They methodically pass bricks, pieces of concrete, wood, and rebar to one another. Behind them, another line of people holds a water hose above their heads. The air is filled with dust, which settles on hair and clothes within minutes of being there.

The aftermath response at Okhmatdyt has brought together numerous officials including Interior Minister Ihor Klymenko, National Police Chief Ivan Vyhovskyi, and Emergency Service Head Andrii Danyk, who are actively involved in clearing the rubble alongside other rescuers.

"We have about an hour, maybe an hour and twenty minutes, to clear the debris. After that, those who are under the rubble likely won't survive, they'll run out of air," Klymenko says.

The number of volunteers is so large that around the remnants of the building, a large organized crowd has formed, resembling a beehive from the sides. Everyone is engaged. One rescuer approaches Klymenko, informing him that it's possible to inspect the walls inside the building. Amid the stones and remnants of window frames and staircases leading nowhere, the rescuers continuously water chunks of concrete that occasionally catch fire and emit smoke. When the area is sufficiently cleared, the rescuers shout "Corridor!" and heavy machinery moves towards the building.

Just as there's still time to rescue people trapped under the rubble, an alarm sounds. It becomes known that a reconnaissance drone is flying over Kyiv. "They will strike again, it's obvious," people around say. Rescuers and soldiers order all civilians to leave the area and take cover, but many resist, so they push people back and literally herd them into underground passages.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/okhmatdyt-being-dismantled-brick-by-brick-for-10-hours-now-report-from-the-site/ar-BB1pDdbA?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2d3da7e175f44977ab0ffb020c616383&ei=24

[Dargo]

Russian food manufacturers are increasingly using banned meat glue in yoghurt, cheese and meat products. The country is getting poorer and poorer while devoting everything to war. But do not worry, under Putin’s leadership great authority and exceptional ability at his discretion proclaims all goes accord the plan. Supreme, Glorious chairman Putin saw it was good. He is right as always!! (Loud and prolonged applause, rising to an ovation and faint in awe of...)

[mapuc]

Russian food manufacturers are increasingly using banned meat glue in yoghurt, cheese and meat products. The country is getting poorer and poorer while devoting everything to war. But do not worry, under Putin’s leadership great authority and exceptional ability at his discretion proclaims all goes accord the plan. Supreme, Glorious chairman Putin saw it was good. He is right as always!! (Loud and prolonged applause, rising to an ovation and faint in awe of...).....the sound from the fat lady starting to sing

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Orban reacts to attack on Okhmatdyt, calls for Russia and Ukraine to be urged to hold peace talks

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban reacted to the Russian attack on the Okhmatdyt children's hospital in Kyiv on July 8. The politician did not directly condemn Russia for another war crime.

Orban published his comment on the social network X

"Yesterday's tragic and disgusting attack in Kyiv proves that our fears were justified: as expected, the brutality of the Russian-Ukrainian war has reached a new level," Orban said in a post.

The head of the Hungarian government also recalled his "peacekeeping mission." He also called on world leaders to "abandon their military policy and instead create a policy of peace to guide Russia and Ukraine to a ceasefire and peace talks."

"This is the only way to avoid further bloodshed," Orban added.

Orban's visits to Kyiv, Moscow and Beijing
Orban visited Kyiv on July 2. He met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. After that, the Hungarian prime minister traveled to Russia, where he met with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin on July 5. A number of European leaders reacted rather sharply to the Hungarian prime minister's visit to Moscow. They emphasized that Orban did not represent the EU in Russia during his meeting with Putin.

On Monday, July 8, Orban arrived in Beijing, where he met with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3498900

[Dargo]

Viktor Orbán goes out hunting he spots a bear aims and kaboom when the smoke clears Viktor gets a tap on the shoulder it's the bear it says you got two options, either I eat you here and now or you bend over and let me have my way. Viktor bends over... afterwards he leaps to Moscow and ask Putin what to do Putin replies here you have a bigger gun now go and kill that bear. So Viktor Orbán goes into the forest looking for the bear sees it, aims and... after a while get a tap on the shoulder by the bear which says you know the drill. Now Viktor Orbán goes to Beijing asking XI for advice, XI says here you have a rocket launcher that will do the trick. Next day, Orbán spots the bear and shoots him with the rocket launcher to be tapped on the shoulder by the bear saying "you are certainly not here for the hunt, Victor".

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZN2Se6SAqY

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmHP3f5fHVs

[Dargo]

Major Russian breakthrough unlikelyThe Russian military is unlikely to make any major area gains in Ukraine in the coming months. Poorly trained troops are struggling to break through Ukrainian defences now reinforced with Western munitions. Russia's problems mark a significant change in the dynamics of the war, which in recent months has just been in Moscow's favour. Russian forces continue to hurt the Ukrainians, but their incremental advance has been slowed by the latter's reinforced lines.

Ukrainian forces are under pressure and have months of fighting ahead, but a major Russian breakthrough is now unlikely. The Russian offensive has turned into a bloodbath worse than the battle for Bakhmut (losses from 800 a day during the battle for Bakhmut have risen to over 1,000 in the Russian offensive of 2024). While Ukrainians insist they are fighting to get their country back, more and more U.S. officials believe the war is primarily about Ukraine's future in NATO and the European Union.

And deep into the third year of a devastating war, there are grave concerns about Ukraine's ability to keep its infrastructure, including its power grid, running amid Russian long-range attacks. But perhaps the biggest factor of uncertainty is U.S. policy toward Ukraine after this fall's presidential election. For while Russia may not be able to take large parts of Ukraine yet, the prospects for Kyiv to conversely regain land from the invading army are also waning. Encouraged by American advisers, Ukraine is focusing on building up its defences and attacking deep behind Russian lines.

The past year and a half has made it clear that neither Russia nor Ukraine has the capabilities to significantly change its battle lines. The US and its allies will have to make long-term investments to enable Ukraine to maintain its lines, exhaust Russia and do damage. This is still a very unstable scenario, which is why Western leaders really need to focus on integrating Ukraine into European and transatlantic security structures.

Some in the west say that even without formally reclaiming its country, Ukraine can still emerge victorious from the war by seeking rapprochement with NATO and Europe. But these predictions could also be undermined if U.S. policy toward Ukraine and Russia changes. With a stockpile of electronic components from China, drones from Iran and missiles and artillery from North Korea, Russia has enough weapons to supply its military. But it lacks enough personnel to force a major breakthrough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkFoVP_tMNA

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz43kxURnGo

[mapuc]

Major Russian breakthrough unlikelyThe Russian military is unlikely to make any major area gains in Ukraine in the coming months. Poorly trained troops are struggling to break through Ukrainian defences now reinforced with Western munitions. Russia's problems mark a significant change in the dynamics of the war, which in recent months has just been in Moscow's favour. Russian forces continue to hurt the Ukrainians, but their incremental advance has been slowed by the latter's reinforced lines.

Ukrainian forces are under pressure and have months of fighting ahead, but a major Russian breakthrough is now unlikely. The Russian offensive has turned into a bloodbath worse than the battle for Bakhmut (losses from 800 a day during the battle for Bakhmut have risen to over 1,000 in the Russian offensive of 2024). While Ukrainians insist they are fighting to get their country back, more and more U.S. officials believe the war is primarily about Ukraine's future in NATO and the European Union.

And deep into the third year of a devastating war, there are grave concerns about Ukraine's ability to keep its infrastructure, including its power grid, running amid Russian long-range attacks. But perhaps the biggest factor of uncertainty is U.S. policy toward Ukraine after this fall's presidential election. For while Russia may not be able to take large parts of Ukraine yet, the prospects for Kyiv to conversely regain land from the invading army are also waning. Encouraged by American advisers, Ukraine is focusing on building up its defences and attacking deep behind Russian lines.

The past year and a half has made it clear that neither Russia nor Ukraine has the capabilities to significantly change its battle lines. The US and its allies will have to make long-term investments to enable Ukraine to maintain its lines, exhaust Russia and do damage. This is still a very unstable scenario, which is why Western leaders really need to focus on integrating Ukraine into European and transatlantic security structures.

Some in the west say that even without formally reclaiming its country, Ukraine can still emerge victorious from the war by seeking rapprochement with NATO and Europe. But these predictions could also be undermined if U.S. policy toward Ukraine and Russia changes. With a stockpile of electronic components from China, drones from Iran and missiles and artillery from North Korea, Russia has enough weapons to supply its military. But it lacks enough personnel to force a major breakthrough.

They may lack enough personnel to win this war that's true, but nevertheless time is on Russian side. These fancy words from NATO and EU for how long will they go on ? How many years will Ukraine get supplies from NATO and EU.

Yes they are building their own weapon and ammo factories in Ukraine. Which will be some juicy targets for the Russians- Here the Ukrainians has to make the choice defend the biggest cities or defend these factories.

I expect the worse and truly hope for the best for the Ukrainians.

Markus

[Dargo]

They may lack enough personnel to win this war that's true, but nevertheless time is on Russian side. These fancy words from NATO and EU for how long will they go on ? How many years will Ukraine get supplies from NATO and EU.

Yes they are building their own weapon and ammo factories in Ukraine. Which will be some juicy targets for the Russians- Here the Ukrainians has to make the choice defend the biggest cities or defend these factories.

I expect the worse and truly hope for the best for the Ukrainians.

MarkusNo time is not on Russian side every week, month or year amounts to more and more crisis for Russia, it is already junior to China. China keeps Russia economical on its feet, if China should decide it is enough this war will be over in no time. Ukraine gets its air defence it needs if the West see horrible things in the media involving children they react Europe will step up delivery of air defence and the US has said that every next export patriot battery is for Ukraine. Putin is so bad at this game, he does not realize that his actions constantly backfires. The West divided Pfff it was never that united than today to make Russia pay, maybe too little too late, but we have not even started and Ukraine already has destroyed two echelons of the Russian army with our equipment. Ukraine is sure that it gets what it needs for 2024 and 2025 that is a constant that Russia does not have Russia is the beggar here he needs to bend the knee to partners that are beneath it for centuries but it bends over again and again that is the greatness of this Russian Empire. We are the riches more productive block here all that say otherwise are beliebers of Putin's propaganda. And with Mark at the helm of NATO you will see a more united NATO than it ever was in his history, NATO already stronger it will only become more... Even Trump choice was Mark Rutte for this job because Trump knows he is good and the right man for it.

[mapuc]

No time is not on Russian side every week, month or year amounts to more and more crisis for Russia, it is already junior to China. China keeps Russia economical on its feet, if China should decide it is enough this war will be over in no time. Ukraine gets its air defence it needs if the West see horrible things in the media involving children they react Europe will step up delivery of air defence and the US has said that every next export patriot battery is for Ukraine. Putin is so bad at this game, he does not realize that his actions constantly backfires. The West divided Pfff it was never that united than today to make Russia pay, maybe too little too late, but we have not even started and Ukraine already has destroyed two echelons of the Russian army with our equipment. Ukraine is sure that it gets what it needs for 2024 and 2025 that is a constant that Russia does not have Russia is the beggar here he needs to bend the knee to partners that are beneath it for centuries but it bends over again and again that is the greatness of this Russian Empire. We are the riches more productive block here all that say otherwise are beliebers of Putin's propaganda.

Makes one wonder what will happen when Russia runs out of weapons(tanks, artillery a.s.o.)

You could say that some of us believe in western propaganda. 'cause there are three side of a war-Propaganda from side a and side b and the truth.

Are we producing more than what Russia produce and what they get from Iran, NK and China ?

Markus

[Dargo]

Makes one wonder what will happen when Russia runs out of weapons(tanks, artillery a.s.o.)

You could say that some of us believe in western propaganda. 'cause there are three side of a war-Propaganda from side a and side b and the truth.

Are we producing more than what Russia produce and what they get from Iran, NK and China ?

MarkusIt is not about the amount it is about the quality and Ukraine needs training from us on brigade level (combined warfare) also the will and moral is so much higher in the Ukraine people that it will overcome this Russia. Russia is running on his last legs, give it 2–3 years, then it will be gone. This war is not about to retake ground, it is about destroying this Russian regime that has become a pariah Russia is at his place with the most pariahs in his block against a block that work successfully together. The anti-west block will never win like it never has in the past, Russia again has chosen the wrong side.

Note: On training from us on brigade level we need to be in Ukraine that is what Macron said it is not troops on the front, but we have every right to send support personnel behind the fronts if Russia can ask North Korea to do the same.

[mapuc]

It is not about the amount it is about the quality and Ukraine needs training from us on brigade level (combined warfare) also the will and moral is so much higher in the Ukraine people that it will overcome this Russia. Russia is running on his last legs, give it 2–3 years, then it will be gone. This war is not about to retake ground, it is about destroying this Russian regime that has become a pariah Russia is at his place with the most pariahs in his block against a block that work successfully together. The anti-west block will never win like it never has in the past, Russia again has choice the wrong side.

And they are indeed. There have been Ukrainian soldiers who has been trained in UK, Denmark and the Netherlands and some more NATO countries.

What do you think will happen after these 2-3 years when Russia is gone ?

Markus

[Dargo]

And they are indeed. There have been Ukrainian soldiers who has been trained in UK, Denmark and the Netherlands and some more NATO countries.

What do you think will happen after these 2-3 years when Russia is gone ?

MarkusNo that was basic training (how do I survive at the front) brigade level training is what we do Air, land, naval combined warfare you can only do that in Ukraine because you need to have brigades no country can house brigades also too much hassle to transport those brigades so better do it in Ukraine, so Russia can observe what they are gone face in the coming months :) .

"What do you think will happen after these 2-3 years when Russia is gone ?" Yeah, it is Russia nobody can predict what ****er surface to take power how mad or how... it is Russia an enigma but looking at his history I did see any leader that was any "good".

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA88WSGDjvQ

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7OMxbAT0JA

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45eluMNvxVM

[Catfish]

The world will remember Solovyov and its[sic!] ilk when the time has come. If he does not commmit suicide in time like Goebbels did.
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[Catfish]

Meanwhile the russian FSB tries to murder german defense managers.

[Skybird]

^

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics/us-germany-foiled-russian-assassination-plot/index.html


Next escalation: Russian assassination attempts against Western politicians and diplomats.


Western reaction...? Any...?

[mapuc]

^

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics/us-germany-foiled-russian-assassination-plot/index.html


Next escalation: Russian assassination attempts against Western politicians and diplomats.


Western reaction...? Any...?

Don't know if you can call this a reaction ?

Taken from a Danish article, on the same issue

"Germany's foreign minister, Annalena Baerbock, has reacted to the new information.

- In light of the latest news about Rheinmetall, it is the same as we have communicated more and more clearly in recent months, she says according to AFP."

Markus

[Skybird]

Only in so far as endless talking counts as a deed.

I would like to see a plane with Russian key industry leaders blowing apart in midair. Thats also talking. In Russian.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXfK2-pqJ88

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTvQAq_ekbM

Markus

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLDMR9Qr-AU

Markus

[vanjast]

Girls.. girls.. girlz...
Most of you are drunk on illusions brought to you by MSM :up:

Have a look here.. and for once ask yourself "Why has this not appeared on MSM denying this, or why there is no legal case against AMG"..

https://amg-news.com/an-in-depth-expose-mass-arrests-detention-tribunals-and-the-fight-against-deep-state-corruption-gitmo-honduras-xpl-spains-santa-cruz-islands-u-s-military-prison-naval-base-military-prison-i/

Err Doh!! maybe because it's true??
Wakey Wakey :D
:har:

[Reece]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTvQAq_ekbM

Markus
Very sad indeed!! :oops::dead::-?:timeout:

[Jimbuna]

Russian army on the brink as soldier turns gun on military unit and thousands desert

A Russian soldier shot three of his colleagues, seriously injuring them before fleeing his military base.

The shooting is just the latest in a series of deadly incidents in the Russian army, and comes amid reports of thousands of soldiers deserting their units, as morale and discipline continues to collapse.

Alexey Zhuravlev, 29, was serving in a military unit in the Belgorod region, which borders Ukraine.

Reports say he was drinking with his fellow soldiers on the evening of July 11, when a row broke out after they started to insult him.

Zhuravlev warned his comrades to stop, and when they refused he shot them with his machine gun.

He then fled his base and is believed to be trying to make his way to Kozinka, a village just across the border in Ukraine.
The Russian army has launched a massive manhunt for the fugitive, who has been charged with desertion and attempted murder.

He is said to have been wearing a grey T-shirt, black shorts and rubber slippers, as well as a cap with a pixel pattern on it.

Zhuravlev is originally from the Chuvash village of Yuskasy near Cheboksary.

In 2011, he was convicted of robbery and served several years in a Russian penal colony.

On release from prison he moved to Moscow before joining the army as a contract soldier last year.

Putin's army has struggled to maintain morale among its troops, as it continues to sustain huge casualties on the frontlines.

New analysis by the Economist suggests that over 700,000 Russian soldiers may have been killed in fighting during the course of the war.

Reports have emerged of the brutal treatment of Russian soldiers by their commanders, who have committed large numbers of troops to frontal assaults on heavily fortified Ukrainian positions.

Ukraine's military intelligence (HUR) said in April that over 18,000 military personnel in Russia's Southern Military District have abandoned their positions.

Around 12,000 of them are from the 8th Combined Arms Army, while an estimated 2,500 soldiers are from the Russian 58th Combined Arms Army.

Mobilised conscripts made up more than half of those who had deserted, while around 2,000 are contract soldiers.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russian-army-on-the-brink-as-soldier-turns-gun-on-military-unit-and-thousands-desert/ar-BB1pUqJh?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=13fc01c62fe447288f1db406a50ed6ea&ei=110

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uisGLgxPpL0

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCbrCyEdVpY

Markus

[mapuc]

For how long can they keep on with this high casualties ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztWPgkqbdNc

Markus

[August]

For how long can they keep on with this high casualties ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztWPgkqbdNc

Markus


If they are loosing 10,000 troops more a month than they are recruiting then they not only have a real sustainability problem they also have to worry about their own armies eventually getting fed up with being treated like cannon fodder. The last time the Russians were in this situation the troops revolted and ended up overthrowing the Czar and their entire monarchist form of government.

[Dargo]

If they are loosing 10,000 troops more a month than they are recruiting then they not only have a real sustainability problem they also have to worry about their own armies eventually getting fed up with being treated like cannon fodder. The last time the Russians were in this situation the troops revolted and ended up overthrowing the Czar and their entire monarchist form of government.They will lose more than they can requite per month for sure, certainly with the new offensive. "Russian troops have launched a new offensive in northern Ukraine, Chief of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (HUR) Lieutenant General Kyrylo Budanov"... https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/07/13/russias-attack-on-ukraine-from-north-is-already-ongoing-budanov/

[Catfish]

The russian-friendly left, far right, infiltrators and bots are throwing a tantrum here in Germany, seems there is more to the NATO summit than met the press.

[mapuc]

They will lose more than they can requite per month for sure, certainly with the new offensive. "Russian troops have launched a new offensive in northern Ukraine, Chief of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (HUR) Lieutenant General Kyrylo Budanov"... https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/07/13/russias-attack-on-ukraine-from-north-is-already-ongoing-budanov/

Then you were right Russia has enough manpower and material for the next
2-3 years.

What Putin will come up with when this happens-I don't know.

Markus

[mapuc]

The russian-friendly left, far right, infiltrators and bots are throwing a tantrum here in Germany, seems there is more to the NATO summit than met the press.

These Russian friendly spand from far left to far right.

Markus

[Dargo]

Then you were right Russia has enough manpower and material for the next
2-3 years.

What Putin will come up with when this happens-I don't know.

MarkusWould not say enough manpower they now can requite, 30000 per month but losing already more per month and the material is also not in the best shape any more. Ukraine can on this moment bring a lot of loses to them and that with not all the equipment delivered to the fronts. You can have all the numbers on paper but if your plans are unrealistic, command does not work, supply still not in order and Russian army is corrupt in its core offensives fail that is what we see now happening with the Russian army. If you need barrier troops in the rear or on the front lines to force attacks, you are doing something very wrong, and your army will not fight how you want them to fight so every plan will always fail.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7g_KtcZ4TE

[Dargo]

The situation in the Kharkiv region continues to deteriorate for Russia. Russian military blogger Anatoly Radov recognizes the escalating situation in the Kharkiv region for Russian forces, particularly near Hlyboke. Ukrainian forces have been carrying out counterattacks in recent weeks, leading to a gradual retreat of the Russian forces. The diversionary offensive in the northern part of Kharkiv region has been a colossal failure for Russia, as it has been unable to achieve its military or political objectives in that area. Ukraine has not needed to redeploy a significant number of troops from other regions to have an impact in the east and south, while Russia has used troops that could have been used on the main fronts.

Russia has also failed to establish a buffer zone as intended in its political objective. Time is running out for Russia to make any significant progress on the front. Its slow advances in the east and south come at a high human and material cost, without reaching its main objectives until the offensive culminates. By the end of the year, Ukraine's manpower, shell, weapon, and fortification capabilities will be so improved that Russia won't be able to achieve significant advances on the front for an extended period.

Source:
Russian military blogger Anatoly Radov acknowledges the worsening situation in the Kharkiv region for Russian forces, especially near Hlyboke. Ukrainian forces have been conducting counterattacks the past week(s) and Russians are gradually retreating. The Russian offensive in Kharkiv has been stopped. Ukrainian forces have stabilized the front. The Russian strategic intention to overstretch Ukrainian forces by lengthening the frontline didn't materialize.

[Jimbuna]

AFU have already engaged in 66 combat engagements along entire frontline, more than third of them in Pokrovsk direction, enemy is actively storming Toretsk direction as well, - General Staff

The situation remains the most tense in the Pokrovsk direction, where more than a third of all the fighting took place. Militants are also actively attacking in the Toretsk direction. The number of combat engagements along the entire frontline today has increased to 66.

Strikes on the territory of Ukraine
Russian terrorists continue to attack the border of the Sumy and Chernihiv regions from their territory. In particular, the areas of Chernatske (from the direction of Zernove (Russia)), Mikhalchyna Sloboda (from the direction of Pogar (Russia)), Karpovychi, Hremiachka and Yunakivka were hit by shelling.

Situation in the Kharkiv region
The enemy conducted few attacks in the Kharkiv direction - only three. He unsuccessfully stormed near Vovchansk and Hlyboke. Instead, the terrorists continue to actively fire multiple rocket launchers from Russian territory at Ukrainian villages and towns. In particular, four airstrikes were launched from Belgorod near Lyptsi, four bombs exploded near Vovchanske Khutory, and Vovchansk was hit by two airstrikes with six KABs from the direction of Shebekino (Russia). In addition, the enemy bombed Starytsia and Hlyboke, and attacked Vetarynarne with unguided aerial missiles from helicopters.

In the Kupiansk direction, three enemy attacks were successfully repelled by Ukrainian forces near Pishchane and Stelmakhivka. Sixteen Russian NARs flew over the Petropavlivka area.

Situation in the East
In the Lyman direction, the enemy stormed Ukrainian positions four times in the areas of Hrekivka and Makiivka. Near the latter, they acted with the support of army aviation, launching 20 NARs. The occupiers also fired uncontrolled aerial missiles at Serebriansky forest.

The Russian invaders keep trying to push through Ukrainian defences in the Siversk direction. Since the beginning of the day, our troops have repelled six attacks here. Two more combat engagements are ongoing in the areas of Spirne and Rozdolivka.

In the Kramatorsk direction, there have been five combat engagements since the beginning of the day. The enemy made unsuccessful attacks near Hryhorivka, Chasiv Yar, Ivanivske, and Andriivka.

Russian occupants are currently conducting two attacks in the Pokrovsk direction. In total, there have been 24 attacks since the beginning of the day. The enemy is making almost all its efforts in the areas of Novooleksandrivka and Progress, where a total of 19 combat engagements were recorded. Fighting also took place near Vozdvyzhenka, Yasnobrodivka, and Novoselivka Persha. At the same time, the occupiers bombed Ivanivka and Lysychne with three KABs. Russian aircraft fired three times at the area of Oleksandropol with unguided missiles.

In the Kurakhove sector, our troops neutralised two attacks near Krasnohorivka and Paraskoviivka.

Situation in the South
In the Vremivka direction, the enemy attacked twice near Kostiantynivka and Vodiane. He launched three attacks with guided aerial bombs near Velyka Novosilka. Our troops repelled all the enemy's attempts to advance.

In the Prydniprovskyi direction, on the left bank of the Dnipro River, the Russian aggressor is trying to continue active operations near Krynky. Since the beginning of the day, our troops have repelled two enemy attacks here. The invaders dropped four aerial bombs near Lviv.

The General Staff noted that the situation in other areas remained unchanged.
https://censor.net/en/news/3499622/the_situation_on_the_frontline_as_of_400_pm_on_14_ july

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu90iQJq1oA

[Jimbuna]

Putin’s soldiers told fighting Ukraine war is ‘good for your health’ :haha:

Doctors and psychologists recommend a lot of remedies for those suffering from mental health issues – but combat experience in Ukraine is not a common one. As the war between Russia and Ukraine is set to enter its third year next February, the Kremlin is continuing to send more and more soldiers to the frontlines.

Those who return often suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder, but this is frowned upon – so Russian psychologists are now saying ‘post-traumatic growth’ is a benefit to fighting in Ukraine. Psychologist Vasily Langovoy told an anti-war website in Siberia that war doesn’t just traumatise people – it also ‘heals them’

Those who serve in Ukraine could see ‘positive personality changes’ after fighting in Putin’s war. Another psychologist, Tatiana Uryvchikova, based in Moscow, added: ‘Stress can cause a person to either break down, or become tough, like steel'

‘And we never know which one it will be. But many soldiers’ wives told me that their husbands returned from the front more heroic and more responsible, and began showing their best masculine qualities'

Other psychologists in Russia have referred to post-traumatic stress disorder as ‘idiotic’, despite one in five soldiers who have served in combat suffering from mental health issues in Russia. Russians are increasingly making issues like PTSD taboo to speak about.

A doctor in Siberia said it was ‘bad form’ and a ‘dangerous trend’. One Ukrainian website entitled ‘I Want to Live’ has helped hundreds of demoralised Russian troops surrender since the war began.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/putin-s-soldiers-told-fighting-ukraine-war-is-good-for-your-health/ss-BB1pZMK0?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=46fe503dc8a24f22ac2fcc49880aea6a&ei=36#image=1

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2C14Kr9hdo

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine and NATO approve Strategic Defense Procurement Review

The Strategic Defense Procurement Review, which was coordinated by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, was officially approved at the NATO summit.

In accordance with the agreement concluded between Ukraine and NATO, Ukraine's defense procurement will be developed using the recommendations set out in the Strategic Review in accordance with the best Euro-Atlantic practices.

Director of the Procurement Policy Department of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Hlib Kanevsky noted that "the Strategic Defense Procurement Review contains 21 recommendations to improve the efficiency of supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine both during martial law and in peacetime."

The review's key recommendations include ensuring interoperability of Ukraine's and NATO's defense procurement, developing long-term procurement planning, improving procedures for concluding direct contracts and organizing competitive procurement, and regulating the level of secrecy in defense procurement.

"The main value of the Strategic Procurement Review is that it has clear deadlines for implementation, and thus will allow both Ukrainian society and international partners to monitor the success of Ukraine's Euro-Atlantic progress," explained Kanevskyi.

Among the important elements of defense procurement development, the review highlights the leading role of the parliament in civilian democratic control and the lessons-learned mechanism. The recommendations have a bilateral nature of cooperation - partners from NATO countries will also study the unique Ukrainian experience in organizing procurement and logistics in the face of a full-scale invasion.

Work on the review has been underway since March 2024, following a conference in Luxembourg, where joint expert groups were formed from representatives of the Ukrainian government, the North Atlantic Alliance and the NATO Support and Procurement Agency.
Source: https://censor.net/en/n3499791

[Dargo]

Russian pilot leaked personnel data on Russian aviation division to UkraineA Russian pilot passed on confidential information to Ukraine's military intelligence (HUR) that helped identify 30 commanders of the Russian heavy bomber aviation division, a source in the agency told the Kyiv Independent on July 11. The Russian pilot who served in the 22nd Heavy Bomber Aviation Division contacted the HUR on July 8 after the Russian attack on the Okhmatdyt children's hospital. The pilot provided personal information, including photos and other confidential documents, on 30 Russian commanders, the source added.

The pilot passed the information through the Ukrainian state chatbot, Diia, on Telegram, according to the source. "He was shocked by the attack on the children's hospital, so he decided to hand over to the Ukrainian side documents related to the activities of his military unit, as well as private photos of the command staff," the source said.

The 22nd Heavy Bomber Aviation Division is stationed at the Engels airfield in Russia's Saratov Oblast, hundreds of kilometers from Ukraine. This division regularly strikes Ukraine with Kh-101 cruise missiles using strategic bombers... https://kyivindependent.com/russian-pilot-leaked-secret-data-on-russias-aviation-division-to-ukraines-military-intelligence-source-says/

[mapuc]

For how long NATO is going to provide military aid to Ukraine depends on a uncertainty named Trump.

From what I have read he should have said, that he would end this war and even stop the delivery of military aid to Ukraine thereby shorten the war.

Hmm can we believe this ?

He may not be a real politician, but he could be saying one thing before the election and change after the election.

Even if Trump does what he say will do-What about the rest of NATO and EU ?
Read somewhere EU would take over if USA stop deliver military aid to Ukraine.

Markus

[Dargo]

For how long NATO is going to provide military aid to Ukraine depends on a uncertainty named Trump.

From what I have read he should have said, that he would end this war and even stop the delivery of military aid to Ukraine thereby shorten the war.

Hmm can we believe this ?

He may not be a real politician, but he could be saying one thing before the election and change after the election.

Even if Trump does what he say will do-What about the rest of NATO and EU ?
Read somewhere EU would take over if USA stop deliver military aid to Ukraine.

MarkusIf Trump pulls pout what I doubt because this war is a big profit for the US military complex. NATO already has committed another 50 billion If Trump does not want to supply Ukraine NATO goes shopping several members do this already also several members of NATO give out of their stock I know the Dutch do. In principle, we in Europe can buy it from the US. The most things we hear Trump say is said by others, I believe it all when I see it happen after November.

[mapuc]

If Trump pulls pout what I doubt because this war is a big profit for the US military complex. NATO already has committed another 50 billion If Trump does not want to supply Ukraine NATO goes shopping several members do this already also several members of NATO give out of their stock I know the Dutch do. In principle, we in Europe can buy it from the US. The most things we hear Trump say is said by others, I believe it all when I see it happen after November.

Thank you Dargo-I had never been thinking on this Huge military complex in the States, when I posted my comment.

Some of my fb-friends are convinced that Trump will do exactly as he said he will.
I said to them-Are you sure ?

Markus

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ3AV8Abdzg

Edit
Another interesting video from this Danish military expert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoWsgrlIjYU
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Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_77Ey_j9tA

[Jimbuna]

Starting tomorrow, border guards will not allow men without military registration documents to leave Ukraine - Demchenko

Starting July 17, 2024, men aged 18 to 60 will not be allowed to leave Ukraine without a military ID.

This was announced during a telethon by the spokesperson for the State Border Guard Service, Andrii Demchenko.

"Starting tomorrow, at 00:00, at checkpoints when citizens leave Ukraine, we will start checking the availability of military registration documents for men aged 18 to 60. This applies to all male citizens of Ukraine aged 18-60," the SBGS spokesman emphasized.

If a man does not have such a document, he will be denied crossing the border.

At the border, citizens can provide documents in any format - in the book form or a temporary military ID card, or it can be an electronic document. To do this, a QR code must be generated in Reserve+ so that border guards can read it.

Demchenko added that if border guards have any doubts about the data contained in the document or doubts about the authenticity of the document, the SBGS will check the information in the Oberih system. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3499981

[mapuc]

If true it is genius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQjnx4pXYfE

Markus

[mapuc]

Isn't it amazing how a little country like Ukraine with a little army and with a huge number of lost soldier KIA or WIA *, can resist the mighty Russia and have done so in the last 2½ year.

* Some friends believe it is Ukraine who is losing 12-1500 men per day.

Markus

[August]

Isn't it amazing how a little country like Ukraine with a little army and with a huge number of lost soldier KIA or WIA *, can resist the mighty Russia and have done so in the last 2½ year.

* Some friends believe it is Ukraine who is losing 12-1500 men per day.

Markus

I completely agree. They have had material help to be sure but they are the ones who have actually fought the war and they would not be resisting the Russian bear for so long if they were being forced to fight like some claim. The average Ukrainian has a strong sense of national identity and he is willing to fight and die to preserve what he considers to be his homeland. You have to admire that.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBFgG65FLW0

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcQFncsTEak

[mapuc]

Didn't knew it was going so bad for the Russian army

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4WvWRdo6O0

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine and Russia plan large prisoner exchange today mediated by UAE - Bloomberg

Between Ukraine and Russia, a prisoner exchange is being prepared under an agreement facilitated by the United Arab Emirates. This deal is expected to secure the release of 90 Ukrainians captured by Russian forces, according to Bloomberg.

It is reported that the exchange is set to take place on Wednesday morning.

According to Bloomberg's source familiar with the matter, Ukraine and Russia intend to exchange a total of 180 prisoners.

This will mark the sixth exchange this year facilitated by the United Arab Emirates, a Gulf state.

It is also noted that each side planned to release 90 prisoners, if the agreement is fulfilled, sources who wished to remain unnamed told the western edition.

"The exchange would bring the total number of prisoners exchanged under UAE mediation this year to almost 1,400," Bloomberg writes.

Earlier, it was reported by the Coordination Headquarters for the Treatment of Prisoners of War (KSHPPV) that over 400 Ukrainian women are currently held in Russian captivity. Many of them are unlawfully detained civilians.

On June 25, Ukraine conducted another exchange of prisoners of war with Russia, bringing home 90 defenders. Then, on the evening of June 28, they successfully repatriated the deputy head of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people, Nariman Dzhelal, who was captured in 2021.

Additionally, nine more Ukrainians were returned, including two priests, facilitated by Vatican mediation.

It should be noted that on July 10, Dmytro Lubinets, Authorized Representative of the Verkhovna Rada on Human Rights, announced that Ukraine, with the support of the UAE, plans a large-scale exchange with Russia, which will include the return of female prisoners of war.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-and-russia-plan-large-prisoner-exchange-today-mediated-by-uae-bloomberg/ar-BB1q7Cd7?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=24ca79fd1ed24d31ab1713ac76bbe99c&ei=23

[Dargo]

Didn't knew it was going so bad for the Russian army



MarkusIt never went good for the Russian army :D

“My brigade lost a sh*tload of people. Around 12,000. Officially 6,000 but in reality it’s 12,000.”

- officer from the 138th Motorized Rifle Brigade (a part of the 6th Combined Arms Army of the Leningrad Military District). https://x.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1813615718279381073

Russia reduced to using WWI, WWII tactics in Ukraine, officer says tank crews are now used for meat grinder infantry attacks. Putin wants results, and the wannabee Stalin doesn't care how many Russians die to achieve his fantasies.

Greece to transfer 32 decommissioned F-16s to UkraineAccording to diplomatic sources, Greece is preparing to significantly boost its military support for Ukraine. The country plans to transfer 32 decommissioned F-16 fighter jets. According to Konstantinos Filis, a professor of international relations who directs the Institute of Global Affairs at the American College of Greece, the decision follows a narrowly avoided incident on 6 March, when a Russian missile struck near Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis in Odesa.As we were getting into our cars, we heard a large explosion. We were all concerned, especially if you consider that we were in an open space with no cover. It was quite savageKonstantinos Filis said that this was a deliberate message from Russia. “It was a message to Greece, a message to the Russophilic portion of Greek society,” Filis told Al Jazeera.

The incident has further galvanized Greek support for Ukraine. Public opinion in Greece has shifted dramatically, with favorable views of Russia dropping from 70% before the war to just 30% last year. Greece has consistently supported Ukraine since the war’s onset. Days after the invasion began, the country sent two C-130 planeloads of military equipment to Ukraine. This early support prompted criticism from the Russian embassy in Athens, which called on Greek politicians to “come to their senses” and “stop anti-Russian propaganda.”

During these two years of Russian war against Ukraine, Greece has supplied Ukraine with artillery shells, Stinger missiles, and armored personnel carriers. A diplomatic source told Al Jazeera, “In theory, we could offer antiaircraft guns and S-300 air defence systems.” The same source indicated that Greece and Ukraine are currently negotiating a 10-year assistance agreement. https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/07/17/greece-to-transfer-32-decommissioned-f-16s-to-ukraine/
Netherlands says it will give F-16 jets to Ukraine "in the near future"Ruben Brekelmans, Dutch Defence Minister, has stated that F-16 fighter jets from the Netherlands will arrive in Ukraine "in the near future".

The official stated that the F-16s will come shortly and that the Netherlands is working hard to make this happen as soon as possible. However, he did not provide any details. He also did not specify how many fighters will be transferred in the near future, "because this is also valuable information for Russia". According to Brekelmans, all arms transfers should be safe and reliable.

"The argument is not that I don't want to inform the public; rather, I want to inform everyone as much as possible. However, we know that the F-16 is also a target for Russia, and sharing data, such as the exact day and time, will be extremely significant intelligence to the Russian leadership. And we don't want them to be more informed than they are now.

I believe that what Ukrainian pilots are doing now is just fantastic. Dutch pilots typically require many years, sometimes more than five years, to learn the F-16, which is a complex system. Ukrainian pilots now complete it in a year and a half. So this is just fantastic." https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/07/17/7466186/

[mapuc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbHU4DMGhR8

Markus