View Full Version : Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2
When will we see the first start of massive demonstration in Russia due to high prices on food ?
Will it ever happen ?
Because the Russian economy is in a bad shape
MarkusMoscow and St. Petersburg are Russia what happens in those cities will decided Putin's fate Putin will make sure that those two regions stay happy. These regions are the wealthiest of Russia, think he like the soviets can keep them happy. That is why he does no mass mobilization there, it is too dangerous for his position. If change comes, it must come from the inner circle, Moscow and St. Petersburg will follow that. There is no organized united opposition ready to revolt like in 1917. Putin will rob the rest of Russia like Stalin did to feed and keep Moscow and St. Petersburg happy, but this can backfire, like every plan of Putin since 2022 backfire.
Skybird
12-05-24, 04:26 PM
^^^ Just a reminder. Putin is not peace-loving Gorbachev.
And peace-loving Gorbachev was not the peace-loving dove Germans take him for - he just realised he had no other choice than to do the way he did. Russia was done, imminent collapse ahead.
I mean: Putin will use troops to keep Moscow and St. Petersburg under control, if need be. The Russian opposition never was that by Western understanding of this term, and never was it as weak as it is now. It has always been dramatically overestimated.
Not that i see riots breaking out there any time soon. Some people are already dividing up the bear's skin before they have even killed it. I think it is likely that the war will end in 2025: on Putin's terms. In itself, that is a military victory for Russia. Whatever price Russia will pay for it economically in the future - that is something that does not change the results of the war in Ukraine. Ukraine is in ruins, not Russia. Ukrainian cities were wiped out, not Russian cities. Ukraine lost a fifth of its terrirtoy, and significant parts of its heavy industry, economy, agriculture. To me, the term "victory" means a bit more than just mere survival. Germany too survived 1945, and later came back. But nobody would claim "it won the war". The scars of the war can be witnessed over here until today. There are bomb warnings every week, every day - until today.
And Ukraine today is the most heavily mined country in the world.
This allowance came way too late-The go-ahead should have been given when the first long-range missiles arrived
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnARJGakEpA
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Markus
The last time St. Petersburg saw the army suppressing demonstrators ended well for the Tsar, like in Moscow under soviet rule. You do not understand Russian history with decayed regimes inevitably elevate leaders of stunning incompetence, corruption and imbecility. Even the elites, in the end, do not want to defend them. Ruined cities can certainly be rebuilt in Ukraine. Ukraine is the west and will get all the capital investments from the west, Russia will get the scraps from the poorer anti-west bloc. Economically, with its combined GDP of approximately $17.18 trillion, the EU far outstrips Russia's $1.78 trillion. The bloc also races ahead of Russia in the high-tech components of its economy, which is pivotal for future development. Europe and the rest of the west will heavily invest in a +15 trillion rich country. What is in the occupied area (20%) are the industries of the past, what Ukraine has in its non-occupied area (80%) is vital for our high-tech economy. Without Ukraine, there would not be a USSR (Russia) for long Ukraine has a huge potential we in the west see you clearly not. I rather invest in a free, reliable partner than in Russia that no big investors will touch in decades to come because you easily lose your investment with Putin. It is simple mathematics, no politics this will happen because the markets want it to happen.
Skybird
12-05-24, 05:04 PM
The Tzar...? When was that...!? A yes, over one hudbred years, 103, almost 104 years to be precise. A whole USSR has come and gone since then. Generations.
Anther era. Another people. and other actors with other backgrounds. Another situational condition. Another Zeitgeist and spirit. Another political constellations. Nothgign to be compared.
Lets decide the next football championship by the tournament results 60 years back. Makes perfect sense.
The last time St. Petersburg saw the army suppressing demonstrators ended well for the Tsar, like in Moscow under soviet rule. You do not understand Russian history with decayed regimes inevitably elevate leaders of stunning incompetence, corruption and imbecility. Even the elites, in the end, do not want to defend them. Ruined cities can certainly be rebuilt in Ukraine. Ukraine is the west and will get all the capital investments from the west, Russia will get the scraps from the poorer anti-west bloc. Economically, with its combined GDP of approximately $17.18 trillion, the EU far outstrips Russia's $1.78 trillion. The bloc also races ahead of Russia in the high-tech components of its economy, which is pivotal for future development. Europe and the rest of the west will heavily invest in a +15 trillion rich country. What is in the occupied area (20%) are the industries of the past, what Ukraine has in its non-occupied area (80%) is vital for our high-tech economy. Without Ukraine, there would not be a USSR (Russia) for long Ukraine has a huge potential we in the west see you clearly not.
What Ukraine has to do, is to speed up the development of their own ballistic missiles and start bombing targets in St. Petersburg and Moscow.
I'm sure the people and the elite from these two cities would not like it and they will blame Putin.
Markus
What Ukraine has to do, is to speed up the development of their own ballistic missiles and start bombing targets in St. Petersburg and Moscow.
I'm sure the people and the elite from these two cities would not like it and they will blame Putin.
MarkusThey announced yesterday that the production of missiles will next year target to grow.
In 2022, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the subsequent protracted war deeply deteriorated business climate. Insecurity, political and economic uncertainty, supply chain disruptions and infrastructure destruction lead to capital outflows. Most investments are made in manufacturing (23.3%), wholesale and retail trade; repair of vehicles and motorcycles (16.3%), mining and quarrying (11.5%), financial and insurance activities (7.6%), and real estate activities (7.3%). The main investors in Ukraine are Cyprus (33.1%), the Netherlands (19.5%), Switzerland (5.1%), Germany (5%), and the UK (4.8% - National Bank of Ukraine, 2022). The EU as a whole accounts for 74.4% of the total stock. In Q1 2023, Ukraine attracted USD 1.1 billion in FDI, comprising USD 128 million in capital, USD 1.1 billion in reinvested funds, and a debt component of USD -64 million. As of March 31, 2023, the cumulative direct investment in Ukraine reached a total of USD 53 billion, as reported by the Ukraine Invest agency.
Despite the war, the government has launched a drive to attract foreign investment of up to USD 400 billion in various sectors including technology, the agro-industry, clean energy, defence, metallurgy and natural resources. Furthermore, the reconstruction efforts in Ukraine are expected to draw investments totalling hundreds of billions of dollars from governments, international financial institutions, and the private sector. In addition to political instability, investors pointed out before the war that the underlying inefficiency and corruption in the justice system were among the main obstacles to investment. Other serious impediments are the complexity of laws and regulations, poor compliance with contracts and poor governance. However, the country has a large internal market, proven agricultural potential, energy and mineral resources and a strategic geographic location, making it a transit hub and a gateway to Europe and Eurasia. Before the war, progress had been made in terms of obtaining building permits, connection to electricity, protection of minority investors and cross-border trade. Ukraine has also simplified and reduced the costs of the registration procedure for representative offices of foreign business entities. Overall, the war significantly worsened the business climate: challenges such as Russia's deliberate destruction of Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, the occupation of a significant portion of the territory, disruption of the workforce resulting from the invasion, the presence of unexploded ordnance, and other ecological consequences of the war hinder both new and existing investors. It is worth noting that while these challenges exist, the majority of Ukraine's regions are not directly on the frontlines. Ukraine ranks 55th among the 132 economies on the Global Innovation Index 2023 and was not ranked in the 2023 Index of Economic Freedom due to Russia’s ongoing invasion.https://www.tradeclub.stanbicbank.com/portal/en/market-potential/ukraine/investment
They announced yesterday that the production of missiles will next year target to grow.
Good-With their own developed ballistic missiles they don't have to ask the West for hitting targets in Russia, like St. Petersburg and Moscow.
Looking forward to it, so the good people in these cities can feel the war close-up
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Jimbuna
12-06-24, 05:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn72La3w0Io
Jimbuna
12-06-24, 05:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLXDfQU3A1M
Skybird
12-06-24, 06:24 AM
Is the Russian economy supposedly on the verge of collapse? Doubts are justified.
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/waehrungsverfall-in-russland-das-ist-die-retterin-von-putins-kriegswirtschaft_id_260540319.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Jimbuna
12-06-24, 10:53 AM
Poland increases defence spending to 4.7% of GDP in 2025
Poland's defense budget in 2025 will amount to $46 billion, which will correspond to 4.7% of the country's GDP.
This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Interfax-Ukraine.
The press service of the Ministry of National Defense of Poland reported on Friday.
"The budget for 2025 includes a record amount of 124.3 billion zlotys ($30.6 billion in equivalent - ed.) for national defense. Together with the expenditures of the Armed Forces Support Fund, national defense spending next year will reach 186.6 billion zlotys ($46 billion in equivalent)," the press service of the Polish Ministry of National Defense said.
"This means that in 2025, spending on the Polish army will amount to 4.7% of GDP, while this year it is 4.2% of GDP," the Polish Defense Ministry emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3523807
Is the Russian economy supposedly on the verge of collapse? Doubts are justified.
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/waehrungsverfall-in-russland-das-ist-die-retterin-von-putins-kriegswirtschaft_id_260540319.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
I know this-To fight high inflation raise the interest rate. This is all I know about state economy.
Time will tell whether Russian economy is in a bad shape or not.
I'm also thinking on prices who keeps on going up due to the high inflation.
Markus
Jimbuna
12-06-24, 11:47 AM
Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons. Now it's asking why
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crl3ndxglwxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSfxUxHzBSA
Is the Russian economy supposedly on the verge of collapse? Doubts are justified.
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/waehrungsverfall-in-russland-das-ist-die-retterin-von-putins-kriegswirtschaft_id_260540319.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wappIf I read this I see the central bank not able to lower inflation even when they increase key interest rate to as high as 23% the economy will not cool down because there is some joker pumping huge amount of money into the economy that will only overheat the economy. This will raise inflation, salary, food price, ... price, you name it price. Russia's economy is looping towards hell, the basic economical signs are clear to see.
Catfish
12-06-24, 01:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSfxUxHzBSA
First this could be a spoof to make Ukraine and the west think that things will get easier. Nothing that comes out of Russia is solid information untweaked by the FSB and Putin's yes-men, most probably not even when it comes from Medusa.
And it it is correct then it's easy for Ras-Putin: Just begin to recruit youngsters from St. Petersburg and Moscow :03:
Putin's treasury is quietly emptying, is Russia ready to negotiate?
Former general Keith Kellogg. Who, according to a plan he presented to Trump in April, would use some levers. If Putin does not want to negotiate, Ukraine should join NATO. If Zelenskyy does not want talks, he will also get no more US weapons. Kellogg's roadmap is not the only one. Another plan circulating within the Republican Party, according to The Wall Street Journal, is to force a ceasefire and actually stuff Ukraine with US weaponry so that it can better defend itself, NATO membership not immediately necessary. Foreign soldiers would have to keep the two armies apart. But the Republicans don't want them to be US soldiers. Germany did declare this week that it would take part in such a mission. Earlier, the British and French did the same. Putin may not want to talk now, but his coffers are quietly emptying. It is predicted everywhere that Russia can sustain the war for another year at most. Therefore, it is becoming increasingly likely that we will have negotiations sometime next year.
First this could be a spoof to make Ukraine and the west think that things will get easier. Nothing that comes out of Russia is solid information untweaked by the FSB and Putin's yes-men, most probably not even when it comes from Medusa.
And it it is correct then it's easy for Ras-Putin: Just begin to recruit youngsters from St. Petersburg and Moscow :03:Every time "they" say "now Putin will mobilize St. Petersburg and Moscow" if Putin wants it he can do it or done after his reelection for life, do not think he dares like I said before Russia is St. Petersburg and Moscow if you mobilize there you destroy your labor force what already has a shortage in the millions for years same dilemma Ukraine has.
First this could be a spoof to make Ukraine and the west think that things will get easier. Nothing that comes out of Russia is solid information untweaked by the FSB and Putin's yes-men, most probably not even when it comes from Medusa.
And it it is correct then it's easy for Ras-Putin: Just begin to recruit youngsters from St. Petersburg and Moscow :03:
You're right about the info coming from Russia should be taken with a ton salt.
St. Petersburg and Moscow are the two last cities he would take young men from.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP1IUL75Kus
Catfish
12-06-24, 03:08 PM
So North Korea is officially at war with Ukraine ?
Long ago in 2019, Trump visits North Korea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyT6_YKSuTk
The times they are a'changing.
ISW analyzes record Russian losses over three months of intense offensive
Russia lost approximately 125,800 troops during offensives from Sept. to Nov. 2024, seizing 2,356 square kilometers, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) reported on Dec. 5.
Russia continues to suffer significant personnel losses for tactical advances in Donetsk Oblast, at the expense of the long-term viability of its economy, ISW analysts noted. On Dec. 5, the U.K. Ministry of Defense, citing data from Ukraine’s General Staff, reported that Russia’s average daily casualties reached a new high in November 2024, with 1,523 soldiers killed or wounded each day. British analysts highlighted that on Nov. 28, Russian troop losses surpassed 2,000 in a single day for the first time, according to Ukrainian General Staff statistics.
In total, Russian forces lost approximately 45,690 soldiers in November 2024, making it the fifth consecutive month of rising losses for the occupying forces in Ukraine... https://english.nv.ua/nation/russia-lost-approximately-125-800-troops-during-offensives-from-sept-to-nov-seizing-2-356-sq-km-50472156.html Thus, over the three months of intense offensives, Russia’s total losses reached 125,800 personnel in exchange for 2,356 square kilometers of territory. This equates to roughly 53 soldiers lost for every square kilometer of Ukrainian territory seized.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2VmTC-0Ww4
Markus
Skybird
12-06-24, 04:31 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0ewneynypwo
All in all, Russia is estimated to have lost about 125,800 soldiers over the course of its autumn offensives, according to the Washington-based Institute for the Study of War (ISW).
Russia's "meat-grinder" tactics, the ISW says, mean that Moscow is losing more than 50 soldiers for each square kilometre of captured territory.
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In other words: one dead or wounded Russian per 142m x 142m tile.
How mentally disturbed and indifferent to human life a mind must be to think that this is worth it.
And still, despite all considerations that seem to hinder Putin from fully mobilizing, Russia obviously can replace its losses in men and material.
[B]However, for historical context: during World War II, the average Soviet losses were about 5,000-6,000 soldiers per day. During the Battle of Stalingrad, the losses were 30,000 per day, and during the Battle of Kyiv, the losses were around 10,000 Russian soldiers per day. Add the Sovjet civilian losses.
The German losses per day at the Eastfront vary with year around 3,000 to 4,000. In Stalingrtwad, the daily losses for the Wehrmacht were even exceeding 4,000 per day. A good amount of these losses were due to failing logistic and bad weather, not just direct Soviet weapon result.
Since I do not possess a deeper knowledge in warfare old as well as modern and in state controlled economy...I'm going to wait for what may come first:
1. A ceasefire..later changed to a peace treaty
2. A collapse of the Russian economy
3. A collapse of the Ukrainian army *
* This is based on the rumour that Trump will stop deliver weapon and ammo to Ukraine, if they say no to Trumps invitation and proposal.
Markus
Catfish
12-06-24, 07:16 PM
[...]
In other words: one dead or wounded Russian per 142m x 142m tile.
How mentally disturbed and indifferent to human life a mind must be to think that this is worth it. [...]
Putin.
https://au.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=sfp&p=russia+ukraine+news#id=1&vid=8dccdc0f0af536432dd40cd63551bfe1&action=click
Since I do not possess a deeper knowledge in warfare old as well as modern and in state controlled economy...I'm going to wait for what may come first:
1. A ceasefire..later changed to a peace treaty
2. A collapse of the Russian economy
3. A collapse of the Ukrainian army *
MarkusFor:
Possible but do not see it for 2025 maybe a start but certainly no peace treaty.
What ever this outcome will be with this war, the Russian economy will collapse. Russia’s war machine is so ‘well-oiled’ that even North Korean troops are starving in the Kursk region. And boi the North Korean have made starving key success of their existence.
Stopping delivering of weapons does not suddenly mean a collapse of the Ukrainian army, it still can defend Ukraine for a long time. It does not stand alone in this fight.
* This is based on the rumour that Trump will stop deliver weapon and ammo to Ukraine, if they say no to Trumps invitation and proposal.
MarkusInclude if Russia will not start to negotiate Trump will pump Ukraine full of arms in tenfold this ego will never be seen weaker than the Democrats so has to up the scale huge. Putin is always the loser here, he has to either go on and know he will face a tenfold army he could not defeat in +1000 day's or negotiate and give what he does not want to give. If Trump is good at anything, he is very good at sensing weakness, and he senses this big in Putin, Trump will use this only for his gain not Russia! Russia is still on the wrong side never wanted to become a friend of the West so do not think Trump will be nice to US enemy no.2 it is in the same corner as China also Trump was not nice to Russia in his first term.
They can say Russia will win in Ukraine do not see geo politics, economical disaster, Russia’s war machine not so ‘well-oiled’ and lossing probable Syria this weekend or this week is all connected it combined decide victory or downfall of Russia in Ukraine. With a lack of success in Ukraine, Russia is giving up its positions to Beijing, which is interested in these East-West routes for its own expansion and trade. But a lot of what is happening is interconnected on a broader geopolitical scale, particularly vis-a-vis China's growing influence. China is a different kind of geopolitical player than Russia. If they do establish greater influence in the Black Sea region, they would want stability and even demilitarization over war, because that means trade. Their influence could expand to Crimea and even the coast of Ukraine. Depending on Romanian elections, incursions of Chinese influence could even extend to the EU. That makes the job of President-Elect Trump quite difficult. He needs to assess and resolve the wars in Ukraine and Syria in ways that do not create a domino effect of Chinese influence in two key crossroads regions. That is something he definitely wants to avoid if he is to continue his firm stance on China."We could see the end of Assad's rule in Syria in the coming hours," a senior US official told Reuters.
Jimbuna
12-07-24, 08:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtLsoMn_V6E
Jimbuna
12-07-24, 08:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whqrv3dqS9g
Ukraine Cripples Third of Russia’s Military Fuel SupplyAccording to the Main Directorate of Intelligence (HUR) of Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense, one-third of facilities supplying fuel to the Russian military have been damaged or rendered inoperable due to special operations carried out by Ukrainian forces.
In an interview with the Center for Countering Disinformation, HUR spokesperson Andrii Yusov stated that both public data and intelligence reports confirm these disruptions. “A third of these facilities have been affected to varying degrees.
Significant challenges exist in restoring operations, primarily due to reliance on imported equipment. The sanctions imposed on Russia have created major obstacles to acquiring this necessary equipment,” Yusov explained.
The damaged infrastructure primarily includes oil refineries and storage facilities responsible for supplying fuel to Russian military equipment, as well as selling petroleum products that financially support Russia’s ongoing military aggression against Ukraine... https://united24media.com/latest-news/a-third-of-russias-fuel-supply-facilities-supporting-its-military-reportedly-damaged-4300
All going smooth in Russia's master plan 3 days to Kyiv.The Russian military is redeploying wounded soldiers to the front lines in Ukraine by force before they can complete medical treatment, Telegram channel Ostorozhno, Novosti reported this week.
In a video address, the wounded soldiers accused their officers of trying to send them back to the combat zone before they completed their treatment, according to Ostorozhno, Novosti.
“They won’t let us finish anything,” one soldier said in the address. “They send a lot of people with hepatitis. Do they want the army to be infected or what?” https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/12/06/hospitalized-russian-soldiers-protest-forced-return-to-front-reports-a87252
Jimbuna
12-07-24, 01:12 PM
Vienna is always ready to host future peace talks, - Negammer after meeting with Zelenskyy in Paris
During his visit to Paris, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Austrian Chancellor Carl Negammer met.
According to Censor.NET, Negammer reported this on the social network X.
"Thank you for the good and deep conversation we just had in Paris, President Zelenskyy. We talked about intensifying our joint efforts to achieve a comprehensive, just and lasting peace. As the capital of a neutral country, Vienna is always ready to host future peace talks," the statement said.
Earlier, Censor.NET reported that Macron would receive Zelenskyy at the Elysee Palace on December 7. According to Reuters, Zelenskyy and Trump may hold talks during their visit to Paris.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who arrived in Paris on Saturday, will hold a series of bilateral meetings throughout the day. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3523945
US announces $988 million military aid package for Ukraine (https://kyivindependent.com/us-preparing-988-million-military-aid-package-for-ukraine-reuters-reports/)The United States will deliver a $988 million military package to Ukraine, the Pentagon announced on Dec. 7. The latest aid package comes as the Biden administration rushes to deliver the remaining approximately $5 billion in military aid to Ukraine ahead of the inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump, amid concerns that a future Trump administration would halt weapons shipments before they reach Kyiv. Two administration officials told Politico on Nov. 6 that the White House plans to expedite the weapons delivery ahead of the January inauguration, as Trump has previously said he would cease military aid to Ukraine unless it agrees to hold peace negotiations with Russia.
The aid package includes ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), as well as new drone deliveries. "This package also includes support for maintenance and repair programs to help Ukraine reconstitute its forces and build and sustain combat power," the Pentagon said in a statement. The equipment and spare parts it provides will be used to maintain and repair artillery systems, tanks, and armored vehicles. The latest aid package will be pulled through the remaining $2 billion in funding from the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative — a Pentagon-led program for supplying arms to Ukraine through contracts with U.S. defense companies.
The moves marks a change as to how the Biden administration has recently delivered its weaponry to Ukraine. In recent months, U.S. President Joe Biden has heavily relied on Presidential Drawdown Authority (PDA), which allows the U.S. to transfer weapons from existing stockpiles to allies in urgent situations. Previous PDA announcements have typically ranged between $125 million and $250 million. With an estimated $4 billion to $5 billion in PDA funding still authorized by Congress, Biden is expected to allocate more aid to Ukraine before Republican President-elect Donald Trump takes office on Jan. 20. The U.S. announced its last $725 million weapons package to Ukraine on Dec. 2, which includes Stinger missiles, HIMARS, 155mm and 105mm artillery ammunition, drones, and landmines, among other equipment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQUkIBrRymw
Markus
I know a lot of people are currently obsessed with Russia’s advances in Ukraine, but I personally see these advances as largely a failure of the Russian military. They are dumping entire Divisions directly into combat and advancing a few km while sustaining absolutely catastrophic casualties. The families of the soldiers are reaching out begging for information about their lost sons and husbands. The way Russia is using their forces is unsustainable, and I guarantee you they are angry at their pace of advance.
I think the current rate of Russian advance is an actually really good sign for Ukraine, because it shows under dramatically increased stress the Ukrainians are losing ground at roughly the same rate as they were prior. I know people are pointing to Ukraine having lost more ground in November than prior months, but personally I find this figure to be misleading because much of that area lost was the area between Ukraine’s first and second line of defense.
It should be said that second line of defense was lost, and that is much more notable and important than the number of square meters.
But, also, a lot of that Russian advance occurred back when Ukraine was in a much more critically bad situation, where a lot of things were going very badly. Whereas over the past few weeks it appears to me that Ukraine is much more in control.
And, frankly, I think this increase in control is largely stemming from massive increases in aid. Vast majority of which is from the US, but also from Europe. This aid should have come much earlier, and it could have completely stopped this Russian advance from happening at all. That is the complete failure of Lloyd Austin, Jake Sullivan, and Joe Biden. All of whom have caused enormous harm to the war efforts, and who are all three completely incompetent.
But, the aid has come. In the American tradition of being vastly too late and for the wrong reasons. But the impact on the current state of the war is obvious. I believe this boost in aid will give Ukraine time to fix other major issues in their military. Including the command structure and manpower issues. But it is absolutely vital that Ukraine does not waste a single second of this time period. Ukraine absolutely **MUST** fix those issues before this aid package runs out. Because there may never be another. If Ukraine does not make dramatic changes during this time period, then the pace of Russian advance will increase back to its fullest and Ukraine will once again find itself in a critically bad and perhaps out of control situation. https://x.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1865418696073625826
^ Putin does not care how many men he is losing on daily basis, as long they advance-Even if it's only for a few meters per day.
Since he can filled the loses with new mercenaries he don't care.
It's more his weapon who is in danger to running low.
Markus
Nah, he's losing double what he can mobilize he cares not that they are dying but that he's not winning his only victories are cities, industries ala Hiroshima, Nagasaki. Putin can never rebuild this or control this Russia demography does not allow this, the people are not there. Russia's population is in the rank of 1 of decline since the fall of the USSR. There is a reason coffin prices in Russia have soared by 74% since the start of full-scale invasion, and they're coming back to Russia this year more than before, that will have an effect on Russian people.
Skybird
12-07-24, 07:50 PM
Biden may have announced new aid, but I doubt he will get it through Congress. Rep speaker already said they will not let it pass.
If Congress would pass a bill for aid to Ukraine, it will not be before January 20.
Jimbuna
12-08-24, 07:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYiI-SesT40
Jimbuna
12-08-24, 07:54 AM
Ukraine's presidential office head discusses shift in Trump's team's rhetoric on Ukraine
Representatives of the future administration of US President-elect Donald Trump have changed their rhetoric regarding Russia's war against Ukraine. There is a notable difference between the statements made during the election campaign and those made after its conclusion, states Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, Andriy Yermak.
According to the official, members of Trump's team and other American politicians demonstrate a deep understanding of the issue of the Russian-Ukrainian war.
Yermak, in response to a follow-up question from a journalist, confirmed that this also applies to Ohio Republican Senator J.D. Vance, whom Trump envisions as vice president in his administration after the inauguration. This politician had previously been critical of US support for Ukraine.
"I can tell you from my own experience that the rhetoric during the (election) campaign and the actual position of these officials, including the future vice president, are two very different things," said the head of the President's Office.
Yermak also added, in the context of his discussion about the work between the teams of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Trump, that this was just the beginning; these were introductory meetings, but we have definitely agreed to work together, to start working even before the inauguration.
Furthermore, the head of the President's Office explained that the meeting on December 7 in Paris between Zelenskyy, French President Emmanuel Macron, and US President-elect Trump had been prepared by the teams of the presidents in advance.
Yermak also described the trilateral negotiations between the leaders of the countries as very positive and effective, expressing the view that this could be the beginning of a very good format.
Zelenskyy meets with Trump and Macron
As previously reported, on December 7 in Paris, Zelenskyy met with Trump. They arrived in the French capital for the ceremony marking the reopening of the Notre-Dame Cathedral after its restoration following a fire five years ago.
Additionally, Zelenskyy and Trump held a trilateral meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron behind closed doors.
Later, the President of Ukraine noted that the meeting with Trump and Macron was good and productive. Zelenskyy also emphasized that during the conversation, they agreed to continue working together and maintain communication.
The meeting took place amid increased media leaks of various versions of Trump's peace plan to end the war between Russia and Ukraine. At the same time, there have been statements from members of the new US President's team regarding different scenarios for such peace/ceasefire, including the idea of freezing the war and possible negotiations between Kyiv and Moscow.
Commenting on the plans voiced in the media by Trump's associates, political scientist Volodymyr Fesenko stated that the US President-elect does not yet have a plan for ending the war in Ukraine. The expert mentioned that Trump is still determining his position on the matter.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-s-presidential-office-head-discusses-shift-in-trump-s-team-s-rhetoric-on-ukraine/ar-AA1vsEmN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2a08bdcf28904adc98dea1a9b654f9e7&ei=37
Skybird
12-08-24, 10:31 AM
^As I already said some time earlier: I have no idea of what Trump is up to, probably teasing with some sweets and threatening with some whip strikes - but I had already earlier doubts that he would simply "pull the plug" and turn away. The US simply cannot afford that, geostrategically.
Jimbuna
12-08-24, 10:57 AM
Ukrainian war dead reaches 43,000, Zelensky says in rare update
Some 43,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed since Russia's full-scale invasion began, Volodymyr Zelensky has said in a rare admission of the extent of the nation's casualties.
In a post on social media, the Ukrainian president said 370,000 injuries had been reported, though this figure included soldiers who had been hurt more than once and some of the injuries were said to be minor.
He also claimed that 198,000 Russian soldiers had been killed and a further 550,000 wounded.
The BBC has not been able to verify either side's figures.
While both Kyiv and Moscow have regularly published estimates of the other side's losses, they have been reluctant to detail their own.
The new figure marks a significant increase in Ukrainian deaths since the start of the year.
The last time Zelensky gave an update on Ukraine's casualties was in February, when he put deaths at 31,000.
The Ukrainian president is thought to have been compelled to make the admission after incoming US President-elect Donald Trump wrote on social media that Ukraine had "ridiculously lost" 400,000 soldiers, while close to 600,000 Russians had been killed or wounded. Trump did not state where these figures were from.
The incoming president, who has long made clear he wants to bring an end to the war, said too many lives had been "needlessly wasted".
Zelensky's estimates of Russian losses are similar to those provided by senior Western officials, who estimate Russia has suffered around 800,000 casualties, both killed and injured.
The UK's defence ministry says Russia suffered 45,680 casualties in November alone - more than during any month since its full-scale invasion began in February 2022.
According to the latest UK Defence Intelligence estimates, an average of 1,523 Russian soldiers are being killed and wounded every day.
On 28 November, it says, Russia lost more than 2,000 men in a single day, the first time this has happened.
Moscow disputes those figures. In a statement, the Kremlin claimed that Ukrainian losses were "many times higher" than Russian ones.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yv75nydy3o
^As I already said some time earlier: I have no idea of what Trump is up to, probably teasing with some sweets and threatening with some whip strikes - but I had already earlier doubts that he would simply "pull the plug" and turn away. The US simply cannot afford that, geostrategically.‘We’ are by our royal history the best to placate Trump and seduce him. Trump was given the most prominent seat in the cathedral last Saturday: he sat in the front row, between Macron and his wife Brigitte (to feel up the ass). This was against protocol, as Trump is currently only an ex-chief of state and head of government. First lady Jill Biden, the official delegate of the US government, had to settle for the other seat, next to Brigitte Macron. Before the start of the reopening ceremony, Macron received Trump at the Elysée Palace with all the bells and whistles of a state visit, including red carpet and guard of honor. We know how to treat these God-sent, absolute, huge narcissistic egos, we have lived with them for centuries. Zelenskyy can do the same, Zelenskyy playing him by suck up his massive... (no it is not his kok) as we do let them think they are important and run away with the loot. There is a good deal of geopolitics Trump has to take into account that is to Ukraine's advantage.
Jimbuna
12-08-24, 01:29 PM
Russian gas supplies to China hit new daily record - Bloomberg
Russian pipeline gas exports to China have reached a new daily record, even surpassing Russia’s maximum contractual obligations, according to Bloomberg.
Gazprom announced that daily flows through the “Power of Siberia” pipeline exceeded Russia’s maximum contractual commitments, though exact figures were not disclosed.
The outlet noted that starting December 1, Gazprom increased supplies to the equivalent of 38 billion cubic meters per year, matching the design capacity of the Power of Siberia pipeline.
Given this, Bloomberg speculates that China may become Russia’s largest market for pipeline gas this year, as Gazprom grows increasingly dependent on China as a buyer after most of its European customers rejected Russian supplies following the invasion of Ukraine.
Breaking ties with Gazprom
At the end of last month, Austria ended a five-decade-long relationship with Gazprom, prompted by the seizure of Russian gas.
The Austrian company OMV won an arbitration case in Germany against Gazprom for 230 million euros over irregular supplies to its German subsidiary. OMV also announced it would take steps for immediate enforcement of this claim against Gazprom’s invoices.
Later, Bloomberg observed that OMV’s decision to halt payments to Gazprom could set a precedent for other countries, as they also aim to reduce their dependence on the Russian gas monopoly.
KREMLIN: Ukraine must accept the new territorial realities!
KYIV: Do you mean the reality that Russia does not fully control any of the Ukrainian regions it claims, or that Ukraine still occupies hundreds of square kilometers inside Russia?
KREMLIN: Not those territorial realities!
Ukrainian Crews Outgunning Russians in Head-to-Head Tank Battles (https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/ukrainian-crews-outgunning-russians-in-head-to-head-tank-battles-4254)Tanks rarely go head-to-head in modern warfare—trenches, drones, and robotic combat dominate Russia’s war on Ukraine. Yet, tank duels still happen. Here’s a look at Russia’s tank losses and Ukraine's remarkable victories in their tank-on-tank clashes, caught on film throughout the full-scale invasion. Russian tank losses in Ukraine since the full-scale invasion have surpassed 9,000 units as of December 2024. In 2024 alone, Ukraine destroyed over 3,000 tanks—equivalent to more than 100 tank battalions, each typically comprising 31 tanks.
In November 2024, Russian forces suffered their heaviest manpower losses yet, with 2,030 soldiers killed, reported Ukraine’s General Staff. That month, Ukraine also destroyed 307 Russian tanks (nearly 10 battalions), inflicting $450 million in tank equipment losses. Russia delivers about 1,500 tanks annually to its forces, with 80% refurbished from old stock, the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) reported. Though Russia has maintained a consistent stockpile throughout 2024, RUSI estimates reserves will be depleted by 2026. Tanks today serve various roles—reconnaissance, bridge-building, mine-clearing, and the main battle tank (MBT), all essential for offensive operations, penetrating enemy lines, and enhancing defensive positions.
Since the full-scale invasion, Ukraine has significantly expanded its fleet with tanks designed to fight Soviet models. Thanks to the support of its allies, donated fleets of US-made Abrams, British-made Challengers, and German-made Leopards have significantly changed the course of events on the battlefield. The Challenger 2 especially, with its over 4.5-kilometer strike range (3+ miles), is proving its precision for Ukraine’s tank crews in battle. To celebrate tank crews and honor their key role in the Kharkiv region’s 2022 liberation, President Zelenskyy declared September 14 as “Tankers Day.” While tank-on-tank battles are rare, Russia’s full-scale war in Ukraine has seen quite a few. Shared globally, combat footage showcases Ukraine’s crews outmaneuvering and outgunning Russia’s armored forces.
Hailed as the “biggest tank battle of the war so far” by Ukrainian commanders, the 2023 battle of Vuhledar in the Donetsk region saw Russian forces not only fail to capture the city but suffer huge losses over three weeks of fighting. During the first assault, Ukraine mainly utilized its anti-tank teams – ambushing columns of Russian tanks with American Javelins and Ukrainian laser-guided Stugna-P missiles, along with American M777 and French Caesar howitzers. Russian tank drivers began to panic and while turning around to flee, many drove over mines in the minefields alongside them. In their last major engagement during the battle, Ukrainian tank crews prepared to ambush, and again, launched an attack on a Russian column of tanks, inflicting heavy losses. Russia lost at least 130 tanks and armored personnel carriers (APCs) in the battle, according to reports. After this battle, fighting in and around Vuhledar continued. By early October 2024, Ukrainian forces had to pull back and Russian forces took complete control of the city. ...
It's not going to happen not in this war it ain't happen-He know he have lost if he do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leck7XS2nR4
Markus
Zelenskyy says in a Telegram post that 43,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed since the start of Russia’s 2022 invasion. 370,000 wounded soldiers, half of whom have returned to the battlefield, he says. Against 198,000 Russians killed and more than 550,000 wounded. Since September, he says, Russia has lost troops at a ratio of 5:1 or 6:1, compared to Ukraine. According to the head of Zelenskyy’s office, Trump has expressed very favorable views about Ukraine during their meetings Saturday. Trump’s statement, on social media, is negative about Russia and Putin personally. All good signs.
Syria has been a critical logistics base to sustain the economy of Russian colonialism: smuggling of drugs, stolen Ukrainian grain, looted African natural resources, human trafficking and illegal arms deals. Russia also used it to disrupt any alternative gas routes to Europe. So apart from embarrassing optics of Russian imperial troops always running away the second things don’t get their way, the triumph of the Syrian resistance is about to make another multi-billion hole in Russian imperial economy.
Jimbuna
12-09-24, 05:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxBZDvq4vz8
Jimbuna
12-09-24, 01:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leck7XS2nR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv_x8sPR6jU
2 billion rubles per hour. Budget Expenditures for the War Set a New Record (https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2024/12/09/2-milliarda-rublei-v-chas-rashodi-byudzheta-na-voinu-ustanovili-novii-rekord-a150048)The autumn offensive of the Russian army in the Donbass, which turned out to be a record since the beginning of the invasion by the number of victims, has been a heavy burden on the federal budget. In the third quarter, budget expenditures under the item “national defense” reached an unprecedented 4.328 trillion rubles, a researcher at the German Institute for International Security Problems, Yanis Kluge, calculated on the basis of the “Electronic budget” data.
Compared to the second quarter, military budget expenditures increased by 80%, and in annual terms - by 53%. On average, the Russian government spent 329 billion rubles a week, 47 billion rubles a day on the maintenance of the army and the purchase of weapons in July-September. Tens of percent jumped both open expenditures and secret, follows from the calculations of Kluge: in the public part of the budget for July-September, 1.381 trillion rubles were spent on defense (+ 71% for the second quarter), and in the closed - 2.947 trillion (+ 131%).
As a result, for one quarter, the “military machine” ate almost three annual budgets of the entire system of higher education in the country (1.546 trillion rubles), 15 annual budgets of the national project “Healthcare” and about 15 annual budgets of large regions, such as the Irkutsk region (270 billion rubles) or the Novosibirsk region (333 billion). Spending for salaries of the military, including millions of bonuses to the war, increased by 26% year-on-year to 614 billion rubles for the third quarter. To the new record - 173 billion rubles - increased quarterly spending on the article "military cooperation with foreign states", which may include costs for the purchase of Iranian drones and North Korean shells. Since the beginning of the year, the budget has allocated 1,884 trillion rubles for these purposes, and last year - 2.15 trillion.
Accumbated in January-September on military articles, according to Kluge’s calculations, 7.1 trillion rubles, or 27% of all federal budget expenditures, were spent, and the end of the year this amount can increase to 11.5 trillion. Initially, the law on the budget of the current year was laid 10.7 trillion rubles under defense articles, but the actual spending will exceed this level, Kluge is sure. In the budget-2025, the government laid further growth of military spending by another quarter, to 13.49 trillion rubles. The share of military spending in the budget – 32.5% – will be unprecedented since the Soviet Union. For comparison: in the first year of the war with Ukraine, the authorities spent 17% of the budget on the army and purchases of weapons, in 2023 - 19%, and this year laid 29.5%.
Jimbuna
12-09-24, 02:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJZ0U3zyNWo
Skybird
12-09-24, 08:33 PM
A growing number of unsatisfied Ukrainians want to vote, no matter the war. The mood is turning against Selenskji since longer time already. Myself, I think he has his best days behind him, in the early phase of the war he was a most precious ressource as organizer of weapon donations to Ukraine and for raising sympathy and support for Ukraine, but since his success to acchieve this has gone into steady decline, he has become more and more interchangeable. The military leadershipo has been changed repeatedly already - so why not the political leadership as well? Its not as if success is haunting Selenskji these days. He is bogged down now. And as already said, the public mood is constantly turning more and more against him since many months - it already started last year.
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/immer-mehr-wahlbefuerworter-bei-den-ukrainern-kippt-die-stimmung-gegen-selenskyj-jetzt-reicht-es_6f7d3843-ba22-4920-a880-b55c5b31a9c3.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Jimbuna
12-10-24, 08:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtW8fx5hHT4
Russian forces in Ukraine are increasingly relying on civilian taxis to evacuate wounded soldiers from the front lines in the occupied Donetsk region. The development, highlighted by Daniil Bezsonov, a pro-Russian military blogger and former deputy information minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, follows a controversial decision by the Russian military to ban the use of privately owned and humanitarian vehicles. This policy, reportedly introduced to curb accidents involving drunk drivers, has disrupted logistics and battlefield operations across the region. :D https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/12/10/russian-soldiers-ordering-taxis-to-evacuate-front-line-as-army-bans-private-cars-a87283
A growing number of unsatisfied Ukrainians want to vote, no matter the war. The mood is turning against Selenskji since longer time already. Myself, I think he has his best days behind him, in the early phase of the war he was a most precious ressource as organizer of weapon donations to Ukraine and for raising sympathy and support for Ukraine, but since his success to acchieve this has gone into steady decline, he has become more and more interchangeable. The military leadershipo has been changed repeatedly already - so why not the political leadership as well? Its not as if success is haunting Selenskji these days. He is bogged down now. And as already said, the public mood is constantly turning more and more against him since many months - it already started last year.
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/immer-mehr-wahlbefuerworter-bei-den-ukrainern-kippt-die-stimmung-gegen-selenskyj-jetzt-reicht-es_6f7d3843-ba22-4920-a880-b55c5b31a9c3.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wappOctober 2024 for most people, the top priority remains success in the war and security, not elections. Recent polls have shown that 25-30% of Ukrainians support the idea of holding elections. However, few of them are properly aware of the security risks, potential for manipulation, and limitations on participation by both those voting and those being voted for. In fact, if the question about voting is asked in more depth, support for elections, even among those in favor of them, declines even further. The fact that 25-30% of people are now in favor of elections reflects not so much a desire for elections per se as a political signal of dissatisfaction with what’s happening in the country and internationally. It’s not really a demand for immediate elections, but rather an opportunity to hit back at the authorities. In some polls, people are even more concerned about corruption than elections. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/articles/2024/10/23/7480908/
https://i.postimg.cc/WzYnkhyc/ukrainetrust.avif
Like I said before these surveys show a different picture, it is not black and white what the German media scribbles. Do not know what this is with Germany, but it is not the reality.
Jimbuna
12-10-24, 12:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXQE5J2WUZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cje9y_eSZck
Markus
^We do not know what Trump does if he is elected, I stay starring the cat out of the tree here :o till January 20.
Skybird
12-10-24, 12:43 PM
October 2024 for most people, the top priority remains success in the war and security, not elections. Recent polls have shown that 25-30% of Ukrainians support the idea of holding elections. However, few of them [...]
The point is that this rate is notoriosuly growign since around late summer or early autumn 2023, also that many soldiers want them just due to the inproper mobilization and rotation policy ordered by Zelenskji. He is constantly loosing support. And it is more than just those 25-30% you mentioned, it seems.
People increasingly are set up about the policy.
And this or last month was the first time ever that polls showed that a majority of Ukrainians, over 50%, agree to territorial concessions to Russia if that brings them what they hope will be a "peace".
They all are worn out. And who could criticise them for it.
Commander Wallace
12-10-24, 12:47 PM
^We do not know what Trump does if he is elected, I stay starring the cat out of the tree here :o till January 20.
One thing President Trump won't do is give our money to ungrateful countries. Here's a tip. If your Country suffers a natural disaster of any kind, start praying to Allah, do a rain dance, etc......
Because, we AIN'T helping anyone out. The world wide welfare line has closed.
In sort of a way, Ukraine has already won the war, even if they should lose the war on the battleground. Russia hasn't manage to win in more than 1000 days war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmP7JHVr-74
Markus
One thing President Trump won't do is give our money to ungrateful countries. Here's a tip. If your Country suffers a natural disaster of any kind, start praying to Allah, do a rain dance, etc......
Because, we AIN'T helping anyone out. The world wide welfare line has closed.Heikneuter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cIHLgGZByY
Jimbuna
12-10-24, 01:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-R7Gi-uLiY
sh3rules
12-10-24, 06:33 PM
I hope Russia will pay a heavy price for what they've done in Ukraine.
I think we all hope that! :timeout:
Jimbuna
12-11-24, 06:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1NwHHLbE3M
Jimbuna
12-11-24, 06:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5gUYhIAx4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjKSzBaSOsw
Markus
Russian airport strafed with US missiles, Moscow vows revenge
Ukrainian forces attacked an airfield in Taganrog, in southern Russia, last night with US ATACMS missiles. So states the Russian military, which threatened to respond. A picture released to the public also effectively shows a remnant of one such missile. ‘It has been established with certainty that six US-made ATACMS ballistic missiles were used,’ the Russian defence ministry reports. It adds that two of the missiles were shot down and the others ‘diverted by electronic warfare equipment’. For now, it is impossible to determine independently whether the latter claim is true. Several large explosions could be seen and heard on social media. The ministry says ‘appropriate measures’ are being taken in response to the attack.
Tusk does not rule out war negotiations in Ukraine starting this winter
Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk does not rule out negotiations on the war in Ukraine starting this winter. Poland will chair the Council of the European Union from January. That presidency ‘will be partly responsible for what the situation is in the negotiations, which could still start this winter,’ the liberal-conservative politician said. Tusk plans to discuss the matter with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Poland's EU presidency runs from January to June 2025 under the motto ‘Security, Europe!’. In that context, the Polish prime minister announced a series of meetings with foreign politicians. French President Emmanuel Macron is expected in Warsaw on Thursday. At the start of Poland's EU presidency, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer travels to Poland. Tusk himself is travelling to Norway. ‘I am in constant contact with our Scandinavian and Baltic allies, who see Poland and the Polish presidency as leaders in future measures that will hopefully bring peace,’ the Polish prime minister said.
Tusk and Macron discuss European peacekeeping force of 40,000 soldiers for Ukraine tomorrow
French President Emmanuel Macron will meet with Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk in Warsaw on Thursday to discuss the possible build-up of a European peacekeeping force to help ensure a possible ceasefire in Ukraine. Both a European and a French source report this to news site Politico. Already this morning, Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita wrote that Macron and Tusk are considering a force of 40,000 soldiers. That peacekeeping force should provide additional security guarantees pending NATO and EU membership so that the country will not be attacked again by Russia after a ceasefire. ‘It's true,’ the European diplomat told Politico of that report. It is not clear which countries would contribute to the peacekeeping force, but last week German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock did not rule out German participation. Ideally, Ukraine would like to become a NATO and EU member as soon as possible in order to protect itself from further Russian aggression. In the short term, however, certain NATO membership seems unlikely due to the hesitant attitude of the United States and Germany, among others, let alone Russia-friendly member states such as Hungary and Slovakia, which would quickly give their approval. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy also seems to realise this. On Monday, he said during the visit of German opposition leader and possible future chancellor Friedrich Merz that ‘we can think about and work on Emmanuel's (Macron, ed.) plan’. ‘He suggested that troops from this or that country could be present in certain parts of Ukraine, which would give us security while Ukraine is not yet a NATO member state.’ Zelenskyy did insist that he remains committed to a clear commitment that Ukraine will eventually be allowed to join both NATO and the EU.
Ukraine says war could continue until mid-2025 if US support ends
If the US decides to halt aid to Ukraine, Ukraine currently has enough funds to continue the war until mid-2025. So says Ukraine's finance minister, Serhiy Martchenko, in an interview with Spanish newspaper El Pais. Calling the possibility of Trump stopping aid a ‘challenge’, Ukrainian minister Martshenko said. Therefore, he stressed the need for ‘a good relationship’ with the incoming administration. According to Martchenko, full membership in NATO is the best guarantee to end the war. As long as that membership is not forthcoming, Ukraine will be forced to fight on, according to the minister.
US government releases $20bn loan for Ukraine
The United States has released a previously pledged $20 billion (about €19 billion) loan to Ukraine. This was announced by the US Treasury Department on Tuesday. The money is to ‘sustain relief services, hospitals and other foundations of brave resistance’. The financial aid is part of a more comprehensive package. In October, the G7 countries promised Ukraine a loan totalling $50 billion (about €46 billion). Repayment and redemption will be borne indirectly by Russia, thanks to interest on frozen Russian assets. The European Union would give a similar amount to Ukraine. The remaining $10 billion will be provided by the UK, Japan and Canada.
So Russia will retaliate the bombing of an airfield. Most likely: They send a lot of missiles and drones against cities in Ukraine-Most unlikely: They send a ballistic missile against some eastern NATO country.
Markus
Jimbuna
12-11-24, 01:31 PM
Putin is or should be well aware that America is not the only NATO country with nuclear capability.
Russia could launch its lethal new intermediate-range ballistic missile against Ukraine again soon, the Pentagon said Wednesday, as both sides wrestle for a battlefield advantage that will give them leverage in any negotiations to end the nearly 3-year war.
Sabrina Singh, Pentagon spokeswoman, told reporters in a briefing that an attack could be carried out “in the coming days.” She added that the U.S. does not consider this missile — called the Oreshnik — a game changer on the battlefield, but that the Russians are “trying to use every weapon that they have in their arsenal to intimidate Ukraine.”
She said the U.S. is basing its warning on a new intelligence assessment, but she couldn’t provide any other details, including where Russia may strike.
U.S. officials said earlier Wednesday that the U.S. was seeing the Russians make preparations for another launch of the missile, which was used for the first time last month. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive information. https://apnews.com/article/russia-oreshnik-missile-ukraine-intelligence-war-28bf28d09087844544874df151bd3a9a
Skybird
12-11-24, 06:14 PM
Col. Reisner on Ukraine and Syria, two days ago.
https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/politik/Der-Verlust-Syriens-wird-massive-Folgen-fuer-Russland-haben-article25420335.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/politik/Der-Verlust-Syriens-wird-massive-Folgen-fuer-Russland-haben-article25420335.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
Russia could maybe keep the bases in Syria, or could shift them to Tobruk in Libya.
The Russians are bypassing Pokrovsk, advancing fast and in strength. They have driven the battles deep into Ukraine's third and last defense line, their territorial gains are substantial and huge.
Zelenskyi's statement on Ukrainian losses are not being believed and are seen as way too low.
Skybird
12-12-24, 05:27 AM
The Russian oil company Rosneft plans to supply almost 500,000 barrels of crude oil per day to the Indian refinery operator Reliance. This is the largest energy deal between the two countries to date. Deliveries are expected to begin in January. There will also be an option to extend the agreement for another ten years.
Jimbuna
12-12-24, 05:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQIu_NJcJXw
Jimbuna
12-12-24, 06:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NosoPYN5iRI
https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/politik/Der-Verlust-Syriens-wird-massive-Folgen-fuer-Russland-haben-article25420335.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Does this mean that the Russians are becoming even stronger in Ukraine?
In principle, yes. If units are withdrawn from Syria, they can be used in Ukraine. These are, for example, ships that can fire cruise missiles from the Black Sea. On the other hand, the Russian forces in Syria were not so large that they would make a big difference.
We are talking of about 7000 not all are fighting forces or battle hardened in average they will be gone in less than a week in Ukraine.
Then let's look at the situation in Ukraine. What is the situation at the front?
The Russians continue to advance, despite heavy losses. They are bypassing Pokrovsk in the south. They are already penetrating the third line of defense. Ukraine can no longer control the supply lines to the city. Further south, the Kurakhovo pocket has been collapsed by almost 70 percent. The Ukrainians have lost a lot of ground there. A little further south, the Russian forces are continuing to advance after the fall of Vuhledar. The Russians have now gained enormous ground.
Pokrovsk is no longer important any more, the hub is only strategic important if it is supplying the frontlines that frontline is given up with huge Russian loses to the Russians. Further south, Russia have now gained enormous open fields that are military a stupidity to defend at all cost, easy picking for Ukraine artillery, mortars, drones, etc. Better send Reiner a ruler so he can measure Russia's minimal gain, pfff it's 0.000.....% step forward towards Kyiv. Ukraine reserves rare resources and large underground storage capacities for natural gas oil and in majority agricultural land is still in Ukrainian hands and will remain so in the coming years. The Ukrainian plan of defence is working the Russian plan to conquer and control Ukraine is still failing after +1000 days. Really a few open fields, cities, industry shot to pieces and some totally fielded tree rows are no gain.
Zelenskyy said in Paris that only 43,000 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed. Does that seem like a small number to you?
Yes. I tend to go by the numbers from the USA. The latest figures were 100,000 dead and 400,000 wounded on the Russian side and 80,000 dead and 400,000 wounded on the Ukrainian side. You have to listen carefully. There is a difference between "killed" and "missing". One thing is clear: both sides have suffered massive losses. We can see this in how intensively Ukraine is trying to recruit new soldiers.
Where do you think those numbers came from? Exactly western intel when it was leaked, Zelenskyy had no other choice. Russia same as Ukraine has problems with trying to recruit new soldiers even with the high bonuses it can not keep up with their massive losses that are higher than Ukraine's loses Russia has not the ratio for offensives they lost them after November.
India has no sanctions on Russian oil, so refiners there have cashed in on the cheaper crude supply. Sanctions have made Russian oil cheaper than rival grades by at least $3 to $4 per barrel.
Correct it has no sanction on Russian oil, but it will and can not pay in Rouble or USD, so what does it send Rupee? LOL good luck also that $3 to $4 per barrel is more $1-$2 If an Indian can give you the best deal be sure he walks a way with huge profits I lived there from the brahmana (The highest in the Indian caste system.) to the dalits (The untouchables (asprishya) at the bottom of the social ladder. They are locked out of the Indian caste system.) they are all trying to rip you off, Russian are no exception.
Skybird
12-12-24, 09:09 AM
https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/politik/Der-Verlust-Syriens-wird-massive-Folgen-fuer-Russland-haben-article25420335.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Does this mean that the Russians are becoming even stronger in Ukraine?
In principle, yes. If units are withdrawn from Syria, they can be used in Ukraine. These are, for example,
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not keep up with their massive losses that are higher than Ukraine's loses Russia has not the ratio for offensives they lost them after November.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2935986&postcount=5577 :03:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2935986&postcount=5577 :03:Ukraine figures are more accurate than what the Russians are telling us. If Ukraine says we destroyed that amount of ... we can check with satellite images (the bought ones) they show the numbers Ukraine claim. Figures for personnel is too hard I give you all the luck counting bodies on a satellite images even the high resolution ones but in the fact that the price of a Russian coffin is risen by 74% give us the proof Russian losses are massive in contrast to Ukraine losses.
Skybird
12-12-24, 10:10 AM
Ukraine's figures on their own losses are as trustworthy as Russian figures on Russian losses - none at all.
“Russia Is a Super Power, They have a 13,000 Tanks”
“Well technically”
The Tanks:
https://i.postimg.cc/DwmhWfgQ/rutanks.jpg
Russians in Telegram channels write about "the outcomes of the war" for Russia. Outcomes of the war:
Destroyed Donbas
Russian troops remain stuck on the Ukrainian border villages wiped off the face of the earth.
The Black Sea Fleet is destroyed
Part of the Kursk region is occupied.
The economy of the country is at the level of Zimbabwe
Russian troops are kicked out of Karabakh and Syria
The international reputation and image of the country and the Russian army are dragged in the mud
Losses of the army are counted in hundreds of thousands
Russia is filled with migrants from Asia
Sh*t is f*cked up in general.
There is growing tension among Russia's elite over the growing cost of sanctions to the Russian economy - Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/12/10/russia-economy-rates-central-bank/)
The Central Bank's raising interest rates to combat rampant inflation caused by sanctions and Putin's military spending could bring the economy to a standstill next year.
A wave of bankruptcies is possible, including in Russia's strategically important military industry. As a result, Russia will no longer be able to replenish the equipment being lost on the battlefield at such a high rate.
New U.S. sanctions imposed on 50 Russian banks, including Gazprombank, a key conduit for energy payments, have further increased transaction costs for Russian importers and exporters and caused the ruble to plummet against the dollar. This also sped up inflation.
Boris Kovalchuk, head of Russian ministry of finance and son of one of Putin's closest associates, warned that higher interest rates "limit investment opportunities for business and lead to higher federal budget expenditures."
Igor Sechin, head of Rosneft and another close Putin associate said that rising rates had a "negative impact on the cost of financing" for the company, as well as its contractors and suppliers, and was eating into profits.
Sergey Chemezov, a close associate of Putin who heads Russia's state arms conglomerate Rostec, warned in late October that if rates remain at current levels, "practically the majority of our enterprises will go bankrupt." Chemezov said Russia may be forced to cut arms exports.
Alexey Mordashov, who owns Severstal, warned that "it is more profitable for companies to stop development, even scale down their business and deposit funds, than to do business and bear the risks associated with it." According to the Russian union of shopping centers, more than 200 shopping centers are in danger of bankruptcy due to the high cost of financing.
Contractors in the Russian defense industry, according to Alexandra Prokopenko, a researcher at the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center, report non-payments and rising financing costs.
Andrey Gartund, head of the Chelyabinsk Forge and Press Plant, said at an economic forum in early November that key machine-building industries could "collapse."
Russian news agency Interfax reported on December 3 that non-payments are spreading throughout the economy: large and medium-sized enterprises delayed 19% of payments from July through September, while small enterprises delayed 25% of payments over the same period.
According to the Russian Ministry of Economic Development, investment is falling, and the effects of sanctions are gradually driving up the cost of imports and financial transactions, further fueling inflation, a former senior Russian financial official emphasized.
Although Putin is pouring more government funding into the defense industry (next year's budget allocates a record $126 billion for this purpose), production growth is mainly driven by increasing the size of the workforce to keep military factories running around the clock and updating Soviet-era inventories.
Russia's labor force is stretched to the limit and Soviet-era weapons stocks are dwindling. According to Janis Kluge from the German Institute for International and Security Affairs, rising costs and sanctions on equipment imports are making it increasingly difficult for Russia's defense sector to build weapons from scratch.
According to a report by the Royal United Services Institute in London, 80% of tanks and other armored fighting vehicles used in a military conflict are not new but reconditioned from existing stockpiles. Russia "will begin to find that the vehicles require deeper modernization by 2025, and by 2026, it will have exhausted most of its existing stockpile," according to the report.
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1866952646101287107
Russia wanted to use energy as a weapon against us - that didn't work. Gazprom didn't stick to the contracts, so @omv (Official account of OMV Aktiengesellschaft.) is immediately terminating the contract, which was supposed to run until 2040. Our energy supply is secure because we are well prepared. Austria cannot be blackmailed by Russia! https://x.com/karlnehammer/status/1866916363295498575 https://www.omv.com/en/media/press-releases/2024/241211-omv-announces-termination-of-austrian-supply-contract-with-gazprom-export-with-immediate-effect
Information from both side, should be taken with a ton of salt.
Markus
^This information is from western intel services, not Russia or Ukraine but our own intel.
Zelenskyy said in Paris that only 43,000 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed. Does that seem like a small number to you?
Yes. I tend to go by the numbers from the USA. The latest figures were 100,000 dead and 400,000 wounded on the Russian side and 80,000 dead and 400,000 wounded on the Ukrainian side. You have to listen carefully. There is a difference between "killed" and "missing". One thing is clear: both sides have suffered massive losses. We can see this in how intensively Ukraine is trying to recruit new soldiers.
Where do you think those numbers came from? Exactly western intel when it was leaked, Zelenskyy had no other choice. Russia same as Ukraine has problems with trying to recruit new soldiers even with the high bonuses it can not keep up with their massive losses that are higher than Ukraine's loses Russia has not the ratio for offensives they lost them after November.This was classified intel from the US declassified moment someone from the US made it public.
The paper tiger, Russia :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUrPcjlyvw
t’s happened again.
The Russian economy has got so bad, you can only buy things there with potatoes.
And 1 potato currently costs 2 potatoes.
To make things worse, they don’t have any potato’s left.
They’re using roubles for toilet paper, but they also don’t have toilets. https://x.com/Bricktop_NAFO/status/1867022567657373933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhpoNL1gZbw
Markus
All the World Records Ukraine Has Set in Modern Warfare (https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/all-the-world-records-ukraine-has-set-in-modern-warfare-4409)Every day, Ukrainian soldiers are pushing the limits of what is possible on the battlefield. Through ingenuity and sheer willpower, the Ukrainian armed forces have earned a reputation as overachievers and fiercely motivated warriors, capable of outthinking and outmaneuvering a larger, better-equipped adversary—Russia. Facing the Russians head-on has tasked Ukraine with pushing its weaponry to the extremes, often leading to the breaking of wartime records. From sniper kills at unprecedented distances to artillery strikes at ranges previously thought impossible. What makes these achievements even more remarkable is that many of them are carried out by average citizens who, before the invasion, had little to no military experience. Former teachers, business owners, and tradespeople have risen to the challenge, becoming globally recognized for their extraordinary contributions on the battlefield.
Ukraine now holds the world record for the longest-range sniper kill, an incredible 2.36 miles (about 3,800 meters), beating the previous record of 2.2 miles (3,540 meters) set by a Canadian Special Forces sniper in Iraq. The shot was taken by 58-year-old Vyacheslav Kovalskyi, a former businessman turned soldier after Russia’s full-scale invasion. The weapon behind the record, a Ukrainian-made rifle called Horizons Lord, had already made waves among weapons makers before this achievement. By comparison, the Canadian sniper’s MacMillan Tac-50, with a maximum range of 5,905 meters, is in the same anti-material rifle category. Originally designed to take out tanks in World War I, these rifles have been adapted for today’s long-distance warfare, proving their unmatched precision.
For the first time in combat, Ukrainian forces pulled off a precision artillery strike at a staggering 70 kilometers, setting a global record. The achievement came from pairing Poland’s Krab self-propelled artillery system with the Vulcano GLR-guided shell, proving just how effective Western systems and advanced munitions can be together. The Krab, usually capable of hitting targets 30 to 40 kilometers away, reached new heights thanks to the Italian-designed Vulcano GLR, which can exceed 80 kilometers in ideal conditions. While the specifics of the strike remain classified, it marks a turning point in modern artillery warfare and highlights Ukraine’s ability to adapt and push the limits of today’s weapons.
The Battle of Bakhmut, lasting from May 2022 to May 2023, was the longest and bloodiest battle of the 21st century. Despite its lack of strategic importance, Bakhmut became a symbolic goal for Russia, with Wagner mercenaries and prisoner recruits relentlessly attacking Ukrainian defenders. The cost was immense, with Russia suffering over 100,000 casualties in a campaign that revealed deep flaws in its military strategy. For Ukraine, Bakhmut was a reluctant achievement, marked by heavy sacrifices but critical in stalling Russian advances. President Zelenskyy described it as a fortress, key to preventing Russian forces from gaining access to other major cities in the east. Though the city now lies in ruins, it remains a powerful symbol of Ukrainian resilience and resistance in the face of Russian aggression.
The Challenger tank is a testament to classic British engineering meeting modern battlefield ingenuity. Originally conceptualized for export to Iran, it soon became a cornerstone of British armored power in the Middle East—thick, layered armor blending seamlessly with advanced fire-control systems that deliver precision strikes at large distances. In Ukraine, the Challenger has shown that age and pedigree still count. Expert crews and state-of-the-art systems helped achieve the longest-recorded Challenger tank hit: striking a T-55 over 5 kilometers away. If officially recognized, this surpasses the previous record held by a Challenger tank during the Gulf War, which stood at roughly 4.7 kilometers.
Russian guided bomb attacks fall sharply after ATACMS, Storm Shadow strikes, analysts say (https://kyivindependent.com/russian-guided-bomb-attacks-fall-sharply-after-atacms-storm-shadow-strikes-analysts-say/)Russian attacks against Ukraine with guided aerial bombs have fallen over 50% since Western partners allowed Kyiv to target Russia with long-range missiles, the independent Russian outlet Agentstvo reported on Dec. 12, citing reports from the General Staff. Russia carried out heavy guided bomb attacks against Ukraine from Nov. 1-20, Agentstvo reported, citing daily updates from the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces. Russia dropped at least 100 guided aerial bombs per day during that period, with the exception of only one day. Those numbers fell significantly after Nov. 20, according to General Staff reports. Russia dropped 138 guided bombs on Nov. 20, marking the last time that the Russian Aerospace Forces targeted Ukraine with over 100 bombs in a single day.
Russian aircraft have launched fewer guided bombs on Ukraine in the first 12 days of December. The number of bombs topped 50 on only five days, according to the General Staff. The average number of bombs per day is now 40 or fewer. Oliver Alexander, an open-source intelligence (OSINT) analyst, said the decrease was likely due to the threat long-range missile attacks posed to Russian airfields. The Russian military may have been forced to move their Su-34 aircraft farther than 600 kilometers from the front line to avoid ATACMS strikes, affecting "maintenance, sorties rate, and flight hours," he said in a post on X.
All the World Records Ukraine Has Set in Modern Warfare (https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/all-the-world-records-ukraine-has-set-in-modern-warfare-4409)Every day, Ukrainian soldiers are pushing the limits of what is possible on the battlefield. Through ingenuity and sheer willpower, the Ukrainian armed forces have earned a reputation as overachievers and fiercely motivated warriors, capable of outthinking and outmaneuvering a larger, better-equipped adversary—Russia. Facing the Russians head-on has tasked Ukraine with pushing its weaponry to the extremes, often leading to the breaking of wartime records. From sniper kills at unprecedented distances to artillery strikes at ranges previously thought impossible. What makes these achievements even more remarkable is that many of them are carried out by average citizens who, before the invasion, had little to no military experience. Former teachers, business owners, and tradespeople have risen to the challenge, becoming globally recognized for their extraordinary contributions on the battlefield.
Ukraine now holds the world record for the longest-range sniper kill, an incredible 2.36 miles (about 3,800 meters), beating the previous record of 2.2 miles (3,540 meters) set by a Canadian Special Forces sniper in Iraq. The shot was taken by 58-year-old Vyacheslav Kovalskyi, a former businessman turned soldier after Russia’s full-scale invasion. The weapon behind the record, a Ukrainian-made rifle called Horizons Lord, had already made waves among weapons makers before this achievement. By comparison, the Canadian sniper’s MacMillan Tac-50, with a maximum range of 5,905 meters, is in the same anti-material rifle category. Originally designed to take out tanks in World War I, these rifles have been adapted for today’s long-distance warfare, proving their unmatched precision.
For the first time in combat, Ukrainian forces pulled off a precision artillery strike at a staggering 70 kilometers, setting a global record. The achievement came from pairing Poland’s Krab self-propelled artillery system with the Vulcano GLR-guided shell, proving just how effective Western systems and advanced munitions can be together. The Krab, usually capable of hitting targets 30 to 40 kilometers away, reached new heights thanks to the Italian-designed Vulcano GLR, which can exceed 80 kilometers in ideal conditions. While the specifics of the strike remain classified, it marks a turning point in modern artillery warfare and highlights Ukraine’s ability to adapt and push the limits of today’s weapons.
The Battle of Bakhmut, lasting from May 2022 to May 2023, was the longest and bloodiest battle of the 21st century. Despite its lack of strategic importance, Bakhmut became a symbolic goal for Russia, with Wagner mercenaries and prisoner recruits relentlessly attacking Ukrainian defenders. The cost was immense, with Russia suffering over 100,000 casualties in a campaign that revealed deep flaws in its military strategy. For Ukraine, Bakhmut was a reluctant achievement, marked by heavy sacrifices but critical in stalling Russian advances. President Zelenskyy described it as a fortress, key to preventing Russian forces from gaining access to other major cities in the east. Though the city now lies in ruins, it remains a powerful symbol of Ukrainian resilience and resistance in the face of Russian aggression.
The Challenger tank is a testament to classic British engineering meeting modern battlefield ingenuity. Originally conceptualized for export to Iran, it soon became a cornerstone of British armored power in the Middle East—thick, layered armor blending seamlessly with advanced fire-control systems that deliver precision strikes at large distances. In Ukraine, the Challenger has shown that age and pedigree still count. Expert crews and state-of-the-art systems helped achieve the longest-recorded Challenger tank hit: striking a T-55 over 5 kilometers away. If officially recognized, this surpasses the previous record held by a Challenger tank during the Gulf War, which stood at roughly 4.7 kilometers.
No one can take away the skills, the achievement they have obtained and the blood they have spilled for their country-But would it be enough in the long term ?
Markus
The "glorious big" bewegungskrieg of the Russian in Ukraine be sure to zooooooom in :har: https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de641cf64bd375 Claimed Russian Territory in Ukraine is the yellow... :har: yeah exact snail advance.
Russia LOST more tanks at Pokrovsk than any country in Europe has in its army. Think about that for a second.
https://i.ibb.co/7vbHMYL/pokrovsk.jpg (https://ibb.co/Mn9bw2Q)
Russia cannot complete a series of new frigates without Ukrainian engines, so it was forced to sell them to India. The engines for the frigates, which were planned to be used for new missile weapon samples, were made by the "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" plant in Mykolaiv. And without them, as it turned out, it is impossible to build Russian ships. :har: https://t.me/c/1305722586/162882 War production going accord the plan. LOL Oh dear, how bad, never mind.
Last night, somebody took this picture of the area in the Transneft oil refinery where drone debris landed, causing no major damage.
https://i.ibb.co/PhpHMPv/Transneft.jpg (https://ibb.co/G2wS984)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAB-4No8z7Y
Markus
Jimbuna
12-13-24, 06:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-biAZ-crUkA
Jimbuna
12-13-24, 06:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymTQj_gNTTg
Skybird
12-13-24, 07:04 AM
Both Ukrainian and Russian military bloggers are unanimously reporting that Russian troops have advanced to within less than one and a half kilometers of the core area of the city of Pokrovsk. Ukrainian sources also confirm that sabotage and reconnaissance units are already in the city. The protracted encirclement by Russia thus seems almost complete, and I expect that the city is now on the verge of falling. The next obstacle west of the city is the Dnieper, which is 150 km away. Until then, its open land and no fortifications anymore, Russia has free rein (if it has the reserves for such an advance).
It will make sure that it has them. This operation is decisive. Pokrovsk is representing the third and last defense line.
les green01
12-13-24, 11:20 AM
I keep reading that Ukraine needing bodies but the draft age is 25 instead of 18 wouldn't it be better to lower it down to 18 I'm sure if I'm wrong will give the straight dope
Skybird
12-13-24, 11:25 AM
^ Yes, but they have a demographic problem hitting hard on their economy, Ukraine had one of Europe's oldest populations and with one of the lowest birth rates. Nobody remains to rebuild the country and form new families and make babies when you now lead the younger generations in job training and university into the slaughterhouse. Then, higher ages all are already withdrawn from the economy, their absence already now backfires hard. Its a practical dilemma, also morally a dilemma. There is no just solution. And mind you, almost one quarter of the former population - is no more there, have fled.
A dilemma, and no fair solution in sight.
I keep reading that Ukraine needing bodies but the draft age is 25 instead of 18 wouldn't it be better to lower it down to 18 I'm sure if I'm wrong will give the straight dope
Made me remember an issue in the news some month ago.
Ukraine need manpower, however the number of volunteers and mercenary do fill the gap somehow. They didn't mentioned how many volunteers who joint and how many ordinary was needed.
Markus
If the city of Pokrovsk fall and it will this will not mean the loss of the Donetsk oblast, Russia will not suddenly turbo advance it will still snail advance it has not the means or command to a bewegungskrieg. Another city becomes a logistic hub (Chasiv Yar, a city some 100 kilometres to the north. Whoever controls that high-altitude city is in a good position to control the region. Right now it is a Ukrainian city, give the Russians all the luck to march a hundred kilometres across open fields to a high-altitude city in sub-zero temperatures without proper winter clothing.) another position will become 1st, 2nd, 3rd defence line do not make it more than it in reality is this is a basic military defence doctrine that Ukraine adopted last year. This Russian gain also does not mean the end of this war, there are many other factors that combined determine the ending of a war. Ukraine still can fight at least till half of 2025 it is at the moment pumped full of munition, tools Ukraine still has a pool of +3.5 million volunteers to mobilize from but that takes time because of training. On the moment, the target is to mobilize and train 160,000 new troops for the coming months. Do not fall for the vinegar pissers that only piss vinegar and have nothing to add to defend Ukraine.the Ministry of Defense launched the mobile application ‘Reserve+’, in which every man could update data about his location, telephone number and e-mail address, as well as clarify his military accounting specialty, rank and state of health. In the first days of the application's operation, more than a million reservists were registered; as of the beginning of July 2024, more than 2 million people had been registered in ‘Reserve+’. Taking into account the fact that before the occupation of the south of Ukraine – where several million Ukrainians live – the total number of people suitable for military service was about 6 million, as well as the fact that Reserve+ is not the only system for joining the reserve and works in parallel with the usual appeal to the enlistment offices, such results are more than satisfactory. It can be hoped that by the end of August 2024, the vast majority of reservists will be registered on the mobile application. https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/current-state-ukrainian-mobilisation-and-ways-boost-recruitmentThinking Russia is so big in population and has a huge pool is a wrong assumption Russia demographic is in the same corner as Ukraine it has the same choice do I general mobilize and destroy my economy with a already labor shortage of +3 million for a decade or give a F and throw them all in the grinder with a outcome of a snail on turbo speed of 2.0. Do not let you get fooled Russia still can not do supply or command a army for this kinda wars it is not and really not the Red Army it is a bad lead dwarf of it with a corrupt dysfunctional leadership in general this is same for the whole of Russia.
Jimbuna
12-13-24, 01:31 PM
Since beginning of day, 131 combat engagements took place, enemy is most active in Pokrovsk and Vremivsk sectors - General Staff
The enemy keeps trying to advance into the depths of Ukraine's territory. To date, the enemy has attacked the positions of the Defence Forces 131 times. The occupiers are most active in the Pokrovsk and Vremivsk directions, where almost half of all attacks took place.
This is stated in the report of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the situation at the front as of 16.00 on 13 December, Censor.NET reports.
Russian strikes on the territory of Ukraine
The border areas of Sumy and Chernihiv regions continue to suffer from Russian artillery shelling - Khrinivka, Tymonovychi, Nova Huta, Velyka Pysarivka, Vyntorivka were affected. The enemy conducted air strikes with GABs in Turia and Mala Rybytsia.
Situation in the Kharkiv region
Today in the Kharkiv sector, Russian terrorists attempted to conduct offensive actions near Vovchansk, one firefight is ongoing. The enemy aircraft attacked Hranove and Vovchanski Khutory with GABs.
The enemy attacked our positions in the Kupyansk sector six times. Ukrainian defenders repelled all enemy attacks near Kolisnykivka, Bohuslavka and Lozova.
Hostilities in the east
In the Lyman sector, enemy units continue to attack in the vicinity of Hrekivka, Nadiia, Zelenyi Hai, Shyikivka, Makiivka, Terny, Zarichne, Torske, Dibrova and Hryhorivka. Since the beginning of the day, Ukrainian troops have repelled ten out of nineteen enemy attacks in this area. The fighting is ongoing. The enemy shelled Serhiivka with NARs.
Ukrainian defenders repelled one attack near Bilohorivka in the Siverskyi sector. The enemy dropped a GAB on Siversk.
In the Kramatorsk sector, the occupiers attacked five times in the area of Chasiv Yar.
By this time, seven hostile attacks took place in the Toretsk sector. The enemy was active in the areas of Toretsk and Dyliivka. Our defenders are giving a decent fight back, two attacks were stopped and five engagements are ongoing.
The situation is the most intense in the Pokrovsk sector, where since the beginning of the day the occupiers have already made 32 attacks on Ukrainian positions near Myroliubivka, Lysivka, Promin, Dachenske, Shevchenko, Novyi Trud, Zelene, Pishchane and Pushkine. The defence forces repelled 23 attacks. Nine firefights are ongoing.
In the Kurakhove sector, there were 18 combat engagements, with the invaders most actively trying to advance in the areas of Stari Terny, Sontsivka, Zoria, Kurakhove, Dalne, Dachne, Hannivka and Uspenivka. Seven firefights are still ongoing.
In the Vremivsk sector, the invaders attacked the positions of Ukrainian troops 29 times near the settlements of Trudove, Veselyi Hai, Kostiantynopilske, Sukhi Yaly, Blahodatne, Storozheve, Neskuchne, Makarivka and Novodarivka, and ten engagements are still ongoing.
Situation in the south and north
In the Prydniprovskyi sector, the occupier made one unsuccessful attempt to attack the positions of Ukrainian troops.
In the Kursk region, our defenders have repelled nine invaders' attacks so far, and five more engagements are ongoing.
As noted by the General Staff, there are no significant changes in other areas at the moment. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3524979
Jimbuna
12-13-24, 01:40 PM
Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war - about 760,120 people (+1,390 per day), 9,537 tanks, 21,078 artillery systems, 19,675 armored combat vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS
The Ukrainian Defense Forces have eliminated 760,120 Russian invaders since the beginning of the full-scale invasion.
This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff.
As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 13.12.24 are approximately
personnel - about 760120 (+1390) people,
tanks - 9537 (+5) units
armored combat vehicles - 19675 (+31) units
artillery systems - 21078 (+6) units,
MLRS - 1253 (+0) units,
air defense systems - 1023 (+0) units,
airplanes - 369 (+0) units
helicopters - 329 (+0) units,
UAVs of operational and tactical level - 20176 (+65),
cruise missiles - 2861 (+0),
ships/boats - 28 (+0) units
submarines - 1 (+0) units,
motor vehicles and tank trucks - 31177 (+50) units
special equipment - 3642 (+0) Source: https://censor.net/en/n3524859
Exocet25fr
12-13-24, 01:52 PM
Russia targets Ukrainian infrastructure with a massive attack by cruise missiles and drones
The strike was in retaliation for Wednesday’s Ukrainian attack using U.S.-supplied the Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMs, on a Russian air base
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-aerial-attack-december-13-2024-801d7ba2438ea021d8568502f803bb3e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhDd0vDF02k
If the Russians manage to occupy Pokrovsk, they will have access to the highway to Tchaiv Yar. This city is of great importance to Ukrainian efforts not to lose Donetsk, as Tashiv Yar is the gateway to the larger cities of Kramatorsk and Slovyansk. Russia needs to control these two cities to take a substantial step in conquering the entire Donbas. However, the big question is, if the battle for Pokrovsk has been going on for so long, whether the Russian army will be able to advance quickly towards Kramatorsk and Slovyansk next year. We remember all from 2022 the long Russian traffic jam, this army lack basics to transport huge amount of infantry, does not have the armour in reserve to do this Russian army fights without winter clothes they will have to march under attack of hundred thousand of drones in sub-zero temperatures.
https://i.ibb.co/wpY9xcW/noproblem.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
If anybody thinks the Russian have an army and really have an army in reserve to do this kind of offensive will be disappointed it has not it has not even have a brigade level reserve in Ukraine to do brigade level warfare you know who is trained and capable for this kinda warfare exactly Ukraine not Russia Ukraine can plan and execute a bewegunskrieg if they would have the tools and personnel. The one thing Russia lacks is a superb supply, if you can not plan a supply line your army will grind to a halt because you lack the fuel. Russia will not solve this problem! It is too corrupt!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQcewpk0SsU
If you do not believe me, let a Russian tell you how Russia works and fails.
Skybird
12-13-24, 03:48 PM
Russia targets Ukrainian infrastructure with a massive attack by cruise missiles and drones
The strike was in retaliation for Wednesday’s Ukrainian attack using U.S.-supplied the Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMs, on a Russian air base
As a matter of fact they eliminate Ukrainian powergrid and powerplants and heating day for day, since long time, and increasing these efforts every winter. If ther eis no powre for water pumps, the water in the house pies freezes and the tubes burst, making houses uninhabitable that were not directly bombed at all. Also, its terror again sgt the population.
Almost 90% of the powerplants have been destroyed now and are no longer repairable. Energy productioin for the most is now focussing on mobuile truck-sozed power generators that can supply a few houseb,.ocks, a hospital, and that are provided by the dozens from other nations. Germany mulls the sending of another 80 of these, I think I heard on the news today. Without these mobile truck powerplants and private small generators there would be no more electricity worth the name in Ukraine right now.
The country sees rolling blackouts nationwide currently. It was warned of in Novembre that private hopuseholds should expect to have power only 2-4 hours per day - everywhere in Ukraine. Heating and keeping houses and pipes ice-free this way is impossible once winter strikes in full force.
^Thing is Ukraine does not need to attack Russian electric grid or central heating system, Russian are so glorious they fail at that yearly. Ukraine gets more support to survive the winters, and it will survive this winter dunno how long you want to continue but after January 2025, in 2026, etc Ukraine will have a better electric grid than they had the old bad working soviet system is then replaced with an efficient new one. I know for you Germans the götterdämmerung is knocking at the door, but that is not a reality for the rest of the world. "Almost 90% of the powerplants have been destroyed now and are no longer repairable." You are so full of götterdämmerung you believe Ukraine has become North Korea, have a great live in your delusional götterdämmerung. You are a great wizard that you can see what Ukraine can repair or not. Ukraine is smarter than you can imagine, get a live and start living in the real world.
Catfish
12-13-24, 04:33 PM
Trump opposes attacking russian logistics with missiles
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-trump-criticizes-crazy-use-of-us-missiles/live-71038711
^Yeah he said allot in the past and... he is known for blah blah.
The world is holding its breath, waiting for Trump taking over the Oval Office.
If I read or heard it correctly Trump would send a lot of weapon and ammo to Ukraine-Never seen before, if Putin says no to Trump's proposal and stop deliver if Zelenskyy say no to Trump's proposal.
If I have heard and read it correctly-There will be friends who are going to be disappointed or happy depends on what Trump do in Ukraine.
Markus
Putin orders 'emergency support' for struggling Russian coal industry (https://kyivindependent.com/putin-orders-support-for-coal-industry/)Russian President Vladimir Putin has called for urgent measures to support the country’s coal companies, which face multibillion-dollar losses and risk mass bankruptcies, The Moscow Times reported on Dec. 12. Russia’s coal industry has been severely impacted by the loss of Western markets and declining demand in "friendly" nations. Coal companies reported a combined loss of 91 billion rubles ($873 million) in the first nine months of 2024. Russia's Energy Minister Sergey Tsivilev announced that a package of assistance for coal miners would be developed "as soon as possible."
Tsivilev also highlighted the need for a socio-economic development program for Kuzbass, Russia's key coal-producing region, which accounts for 60% of the country's hard coal and 80% of its coking coal output. Russia’s coal exports fell by 11.4% to 112.6 million metric tons from January to July, while shipments to China — its main coal customer after Western sanctions — dropped by 8% in the first half of 2024.
Jimbuna
12-14-24, 07:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7nZhMaPOzc
Jimbuna
12-14-24, 07:42 AM
Zelenskyy to discuss creation of peacekeeping mission for Ukraine with EU and NATO leaders - Politico
Next week, during a visit to Brussels, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will discuss with Western leaders the formats for ending the war and the potential establishment of a European peacekeeping mission in Ukraine.
This was reported to Politico by five informed interlocutors, Censor.NET reports with reference to Evropeiska Pravda.
According to the publication, the meeting on December 18 in Brussels will be attended by European leaders, the NATO Secretary General and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
The leaders are allegedly planning to discuss possible formats for ending the war and the potential creation of a European peacekeeping mission as a deterrent to a new Russian attack on Ukraine. The discussion comes amid pressure from US President-elect Donald Trump that Europe should play an active role in a potential future agreement to end the war by contributing troops, the sources said.
Among the participating leaders will be German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, French President Emmanuel Macron, Polish President Andrzej Duda, European Council President Antonio Costa, and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.
Radio Liberty has learned from sources that French President Emmanuel Macron is likely to raise the issue of deploying a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine in the event of a ceasefire and peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia at the EU leaders' summit on December 18-19.
At the same time, the interlocutors noted that the topic of peacekeepers is very "raw" and is at the level of an idea.
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Next week, during a visit to Brussels, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will discuss with Western leaders the formats for ending the war and the potential establishment of a European peacekeeping mission in Ukraine.
This was reported to Politico by five informed interlocutors, Censor.NET reports with reference to Evropeiska Pravda.
According to the publication, the meeting on December 18 in Brussels will be attended by European leaders, the NATO Secretary General and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
The leaders are allegedly planning to discuss possible formats for ending the war and the potential creation of a European peacekeeping mission as a deterrent to a new Russian attack on Ukraine. The discussion comes amid pressure from US President-elect Donald Trump that Europe should play an active role in a potential future agreement to end the war by contributing troops, the sources said.
Among the participating leaders will be German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, French President Emmanuel Macron, Polish President Andrzej Duda, European Council President Antonio Costa, and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.
Radio Liberty has learned from sources that French President Emmanuel Macron is likely to raise the issue of deploying a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine in the event of a ceasefire and peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia at the EU leaders' summit on December 18-19.
At the same time, the interlocutors noted that the topic of peacekeepers is very "raw" and is at the level of an idea.
Read more: Different ideas for peace in 2025 are not very helpful, - Head of NATO Representation Turner
Earlier, Censor.NET reported that Zelenskyy would visit Brussels on December 18: meetings with EU and NATO leaders are scheduled.
Peacekeeping forces in Ukraine
Earlier it was reported that French President Emmanuel Macron would discuss with Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk the deployment of peacekeeping forces in Ukraine if an agreement is reached to end the current phase of the war between Russia and Ukraine.
Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk denied that Polish troops would be sent to Ukraine after the ceasefire.
EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Kaja Kallas assessed the possibility of sending a European peacekeeping mission to Ukraine.
Italian Defense Minister Guido Crozetto expressed his readiness to support a peacekeeping mission to Ukraine if peace is achieved.
In turn, Italian Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani called these discussions "premature."
Germany, together with its partners , will consider the possible deployment of peacekeepers in Ukraine as part of "security guarantees" only after the conditions for this are created, namely a ceasefire with Russia. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3525087
Russian government: we have manpower problems.
Russian military: we have manpower problems.
Russian soldiers: we have manpower problems.
In the western media: Russia has infinite manpower and will last forever!
Ukrainian Armed Forces:
Active personnel 1,260,000 (2024 estimate)
Reserve personnel 2,500,000
Jimbuna
12-14-24, 01:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP1UCbvoFnk
Kyiv delayed minerals deal with US to let Trump take credit, NYT reports (https://kyivindependent.com/kyiv-delayed-minerals-deal-with-us-to-let-trump-take-credit-nyt-reports/)Ukrainian authorities postponed signing an agreement with the United States on processing and extracting rare earth minerals, in order to let U.S. President-elect Donald Trump claim credit for the deal when he takes office, the New York Times (NYT) reported on Dec. 14. Trump begins his second presidential term on Jan. 20, 2025. He has promised to make a quick end to Russia's war against Ukraine, sparking fears in Kyiv that Washington will withdraw military aid when Trump returns to the White House.
In a bid to secure Trump's support ahead of the inauguration, the Ukrainian government has appealed to Trump's ego and reputation as a businessman, the New York Times reported. One attempt involved delaying a significant minerals deal. Ukraine, home to large deposits of critical minerals, including cobalt, graphite, and lithium, planned to sign the deal with U.S. President Joe Biden. U.S. Senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal announced plans for the deal in August 2024 after their visit to Kyiv.
Ukrainian authorities then twice delayed signing the agreement, the NYT said, citing officials on both sides of the negotiations. The delays offer the opportunity for the Trump administration to claim an early victory at the start of his term. "This war is about money," Graham told Fox News in November. "So Donald Trump's going to do a deal to get our money back, to enrich ourselves with rare earth minerals. A good deal for Ukraine and us, and he’s going to bring peace."
Trump has repeatedly criticized the level of support the Biden administration provided to Ukraine and signaled Kyiv should brace for reduced assistance once his term begins. In a Dec. 12 interview, Trump said he would not "abandon" Ukraine. "I want to reach an agreement, and the only way you're going to reach an agreement is not to abandon," he said. Trump's comments came a few days after his first in-person meeting with President Volodymyr Zelensky since the U.S. presidential election. Zelensky praised Trump during the meeting, telling him he was the only one Russian President Vladimir Putin feared.
"I told President Trump that Putin fears only him and, perhaps, China," Zelensky said on X. Following his meeting with Zelensky, Trump said the Ukrainian president appeared ready "to make a deal and stop the madness" and that Putin should do the same after incurring staggering losses in Ukraine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92QsLn7WV3g
Markus
^Yeah, saw that you see them walking a snowy open field to their dead, only transport they had were Chinese golf carts easy prey for Ukraine drones.
Raf1394
12-14-24, 04:08 PM
I hope 2025 will be the year. The Russia/Ukraine war will come to an end.
I think both sides are kinda getting tired of the war.
Skybird
12-14-24, 04:21 PM
Zelenskyy to discuss creation of peacekeeping mission for Ukraine with EU and NATO leaders - Politico
I am strictly against sending troops as peace keepers if the army sending them is not capable and ready to fight a fully escalating war by its own means and strength, and I am against this for principle reasons, not just in this case.
Putin could initiate a proxy war against these troops where the formal responsibility of Russia is kept in the formally hidden background, so to test NATO's article 5 solidarity, which never was an automatic and mandatory thing, as some people think it is. If then NATO members do not all come to help (and I absolutely doubt they would) , he would have caused the precedence to illustrate that NATO's article 5 is just a hollow word shell, and the relevance of NATO would have suffered a blow, a stain on its jacket that I think it would not recover from. It could be the beginning of a total erosion. It could be the achieving of one of Russia'S most relevant strategic longterm goals: to weaken NATO solidarity, to drive wedges between its members, and to get the US out of Europe.
And which European army is capable to fulfill the mission needs of a regional combat deplyoment in Ukraine against Russia, eh? Britain? Too small. France? Too small. Germany...? Cannot even clean its own bottom. Italy? Spain? Sweden? Finland? Poland? Romania? Who do you want to fool here - the Russians - or yourself...?
Do not send troops somewhere where you risk they will get engaged if you are not militarily and logistically potent to do so. And the truth is: with the exception of maybe the Turks nobobdy on our side of the Atlantic is potent enough to burden such an operation. Too small in numbers. It would also go at the cost of the regional defence capability of any NATO nations donating troops in relevant numbers.
This idea is total madness, basing on surreal optimism and desperate hopes only, lacking any rational sense of realism. It would also be a longtime committment, binding troops that for a long time would not be available for anythign else. National defence, for exmaple.
This is no heroic operetta, nor a funny parade.
Stupid idea.
First you prepare. First you boost your potency, your capability, your equipment, your troops levels, your wartime supply options, your amm reserves, your supplies - and then you consider such adventures, if you think you must. Not the other way around.
Stupid, stupid idea. Irresponsible. You either deploy in strength - or you better dont care to deploy at all.
@ Dargo - Yeah incredible that they still use this type of warfare. Make one recall the American civil war.
@ Raf1394 - I think we all hope for some kind of peace treaty. However not to any cost that is.
Markus
Skybird
12-14-24, 04:35 PM
Colonel Reisner seems to agree with my doubts, although he supports the basic idea of a peacekeeper force, but he says the Europeans are not capable to bring up the needed numbers. However, I oppose the mere idea itself.
[ZDF Heute] In the event of a possible peace in Ukraine: Colonel Markus Reisner calls for an armed peacekeeping force of up to 150,000 soldiers to prevent violations and chaos.
According to Austrian military expert Colonel Markus Reisner, a possible peace in Ukraine can only be secured with a robust peacekeeping force. As a pure observer mission will not be sufficient in his opinion, soldiers must also be armed to secure peace, Reisner said in an interview with the newspaper “Welt am Sonntag”.
The number of peacekeeping troops could be reduced later. “But especially at the beginning of such a mission, complex logistics are necessary, such as careful mine clearance along the front line.”
In addition, the probability of ceasefire violations is significantly higher with a small number of soldiers.
Various international bodies are currently discussing a possible peacekeeping mission, which US President-elect Donald Trump had brought into play. According to Reisner, the Europeans alone cannot secure a demilitarized zone in Ukraine.
“The largest European states, i.e. Germany, France, the UK and Italy, should not be able to provide more than 25,000 to 50,000 soldiers in the initial deployment,” said the internationally recognized military expert. This would be supplemented by several thousand troops from other EU countries.
Kremlin boss Vladimir Putin will also have an interest in “as many countries as possible from the so-called Global South, i.e. from countries such as India and Bangladesh, but also from the African continent”.
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Yeah, sure... The last thing I want to see is Indian and Bangladeshi and Africna troops in Europe, interfering with NATO command and NATO deplyoments.
No, this time I fundamentally disagree with Reisner.
Russia second place army can not defeat an army on 18th place after 2 years, 9 months, 2 weeks and 6 days. NATO still out numbers Russia, it has an air force of 22,308 vs 4,814 not only outnumber but our tools are not the Soviet shyte from the 80s. oh, oh fear that glorious Russian army... Nah, never, we can beat them without lifting our pinky. Do not think the US will not be involved, they will be, not with booths on the ground but with airframes and all the munition they can sell to us. Trump blah blah allot, but when he smells profit, he will sell his mother to us. Moment Russia pulls a trick, Ukraine army will attack Russia with full force they will never and utterly never leaves us they will stand next to us as brothers in arms! You forgot the very battle hardened in your Götterdämmerung maths! If Putin dares to attack a NATO member he will face Finland, Poland, Sweden crossing his border that he emptied for the war in Ukraine goooodddd luck with that he will face an army bigger with better equipment better trained than they ever faced in history. Russia is already outstretched than we will stretch it more.
P.S. moment Putin breaks the deal, NATO will destroy its army in Ukraine in days with our air force this warning is already told to Putin he knows this! You and Steiner are so bad in maths that you for got to calculate the army that withstood Russia 2 years, 9 months, 2 weeks and 6 days in this equation what a superb military analyst WOW. FearMongers! Not a surprise from an Austrian, a country not willing to join NATO but expects us to defend them in case Russians attack them.
Raf1394
12-14-24, 04:42 PM
Russia second place army can not defeat an army on 18th place after 2 years, 9 months, 2 weeks and 6 days. NATO still out numbers Russia, it has an air force of 22,308 vs 4,814 not only outnumber but our tools are not the Soviet shyte from the 80s. oh, oh fear that glorious Russian army... Nah, never, we can beat them without lifting our pinky.
You can also say. That Ukraine (with help of NATO) can't even push back the Russian army from Ukraine.
Russia is basically fighting alone. With minor help from China, North Korea?
Ukraine gets massive support financial and material support from NATO.
Russia even gets economic punishments from the West.
And after 2 years. We still can't push back the Russians from Ukrainian lands...
Russia is basically fighting against everyone... And they still hold there ground in Ukraine.
Everybody knows that without NATO support. Ukraine would not win against Russia.
You can also say. That Ukraine (with help of NATO) can't even push back the Russian army from Ukraine.
Russia is basically fighting alone. With minor help from China, North Korea?
Ukraine gets massive support financial and material support from NATO.
Russia even gets economic punishments from the West.
And after 2 years. We still can't push back the Russians from Ukrainian lands...
Russia is basically fighting against everyone... And they still hold there ground in Ukraine.
You are forgetting something important.
Ukraine is only getting a fraction of what it need and it always comes to late. Secondly they could use 50-70.000 more soldiers.
Markus
Raf1394
12-14-24, 04:48 PM
You are forgetting something important.
Ukraine is only getting a fraction of what it need and it always comes to late. Secondly they could use 50-70.000 more soldiers.
Markus
True,
And there is something i really want to know. But both sides are not really eager to publish it. The total amount of military casualties is never been told.
Its like they are trying to keep the numbers hidden.
I think we would be shocked how many military casualties they have on both sides...
True,
And there is something i really want to know. But both sides are not really eager to publish it. The total amount of military casualties is never been told.
Its like they are trying to keep the numbers hidden.
I think we would be shocked how many military casualties they have on both sides...
Me too I also want to know the real number of military casualties on both side. Starting from Feb. 2022. Yes we would be shocked indeed.
Markus
Raf1394
12-14-24, 05:08 PM
Some people also thought the Russian Air force could hold control of the Ukrainian skies. But never really happend.
In Russia, they do not count they have no clue it is historical always maths of the population over a time period, WWI, 1917-1922, Holodomor, WWII all estimations of what has disappeared over a time span. They were always huge. Russian Air force could hold control but like the rest of the country corrupt klepto leadership that FUBAR's. In the case of an attack on NATO we only need to activate the eastern flank we do not need to attack only mobilize it, remember Yevgeny Prigozhin he only had to take the highway to Moscow and the whole elite fled it with their planes. Russia is an origami tiger and China will in this case tack back what is theirs when two dogs fight for a bone, the third runs away with it.
Some input to Skybird's comment on this peace force who should be placed in Ukraine as a bufferzone between Ukrainians and the Russians.
He wrote where should these soldiers come from ?
Right now there are tens of thousands NATO soldiers near the Ukrainian border, such as in Poland and Romania. I think it is around 150-200.000 soldiers station there as a rapid something force.
Markus
Some input to Skybird's comment on this peace force who should be placed in Ukraine as a bufferzone between Ukrainians and the Russians.
He wrote where should these soldiers come from ?
Right now there are tens of thousands NATO soldiers near the Ukrainian border, such as in Poland and Romania. I think it is around 150-200.000 soldiers station there as a rapid something force.
MarkusEvery NATO member that is willing to support this the numbers are not important Ukraine army will provide the numbers because if a NATO member gets attacked they advance into the buffer and defend their country buffer or no buffer it is Ukraine and by constitution they must defend. The Moment Russia attacks, agreement is broken!
You can also say. That Ukraine (with help of NATO) can't even push back the Russian army from Ukraine.
Russia is basically fighting alone. With minor help from China, North Korea?
Ukraine gets massive support financial and material support from NATO.
Russia even gets economic punishments from the West.
And after 2 years. We still can't push back the Russians from Ukrainian lands...
Russia is basically fighting against everyone... And they still hold there ground in Ukraine.
Everybody knows that without NATO support. Ukraine would not win against Russia.So that special operation 3 days' to Kyiv has after +2,9 years suddenly become a victory for Russia that only could occupy minor part of Ukraine? I have never seen that logic in history it is a draw, never a victory for Russia and Ukraine. Russia is basically the loser, it will stay what it was for centuries Ukraine will be rebuild invested in and profit from after this war. This is not hope or optimism it is happening in the here and now Ukraine belongs to the west so we the west will prevent them to fail, and we're not letting 15 trillion slip our pockets.
So that special operation 3 days' to Kyiv has after +2,9 years suddenly become a victory for Russia that only could occupy minor part of Ukraine? I have never seen that logic in history it is a draw, never a victory for Russia and Ukraine. Russia is basically the loser, it will stay what it was for centuries Ukraine will be rebuild invested in and profit from after this war. This is not hope or optimism it is happening in the here and now Ukraine belongs to the west so we the west will prevent them to fail, and we're not letting 15 trillion slip our pockets.
Another thing-If you look at how much Ukraine has taken back from Russia since Feb. 2022 you could say Ukraine have won more than Russia.
Markus
For Putin yes he lost ground to a country that is untermench that does not exist what now occupies a part of the holy mighty glorious Russia. :D Nao explain that to your Russian population that plan 3 days to Kyiv goes accord plan, they never believe you LOL.
Skybird
12-14-24, 07:07 PM
I was asking the Bot what it thinks about it. ChatGPT. :D
I talked to it in German, later asked it to translate it all 1:1 into English.
My question:
What proportion of the ground forces of the European NATO states is actually operational in terms of personnel and equipment? What is the average share of actual combat troops within the overall strength of the ground organization? And how many such troops could Europe realistically deploy for a peacekeeping mission on its eastern borders, equipped with a robust mandate?
ChatGPT's reply:
1. Operational Readiness of European NATO Ground Forces
Personnel Readiness:
It is estimated that in many European NATO countries, only 30-50% of the nominal troop strength is actually operational. The remainder is either in training, administrative roles, or otherwise unable to be quickly deployed.
Equipment Readiness:
The readiness of equipment is often lower than its nominal availability. In many states, especially in Central and Western Europe, 30-70% of heavy equipment (e.g., tanks, artillery, armored vehicles) is operational. Technical issues and maintenance backlogs are common.
2. Proportion of Combat Troops within Total Strength
The structure of modern ground forces differentiates between combat troops and support units (logistics, communications, medical services, etc.):
The proportion of combat troops (infantry, tanks, artillery) in the total organization is often around 30-40%. The rest consists of support units essential for sustaining long-term operations.
Example: In a brigade of about 5,000 soldiers, 1,500-2,000 soldiers may be directly engaged in combat roles.
3. Deployable Troops for a Peacekeeping Mission
The ability to mobilize large numbers of troops for robust missions is limited in Europe. A rough estimate:
Troop Potential:
Europe could deploy approximately 50,000 to 80,000 operational ground troops for such a mission. This corresponds to the size of 3-5 divisions. This figure includes personnel prepared for robust operations under a mandate.
Challenges:
Logistics: Strategic mobility is one of the biggest hurdles, as many countries lack sufficient transport capacities.
Political Support: Not all nations would be willing to send troops to crisis zones, limiting actual availability.
Sustainability: Europe could provide this strength in the short term but would face difficulties maintaining it over a longer period.
Summary
Only about 30-50% of the nominal ground forces in Europe are truly ready for immediate deployment.
Combat troops make up approximately 30-40% of the overall ground force organization.
For a robust peacekeeping mission, 50,000 to 80,000 troops could potentially be deployed, though the ability to mobilize and sustain these forces varies significantly between countries.
Achieving this would require substantial efforts in logistics, political coordination, and long-term planning.
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I would add that the total numbers get further relativized by that they are not ammassed at the Russian border, but are scattered across all Europe, bound to local support and defense duties. Most stuff is thousands and thousands of kilometers away from the ukrainian-Russian border. Only a small fraction of the total strenght numbers actually could ever be projected to Ukraine.
When i was a small boy, we played "Quartett" and compared the data numbers of the card on top of our stack, may it have been cars, tanks or fighterjets, choosed the number most promising to be higher than that data number of the opponent, and compared and decided who won the card of the other. In principle that is what you do when you compare total numbers of forces in each weapon branch between rivallign nations. It just make sno sense this way. Most important, it ignores that the aggressor can choose the battlefield and the time and can amass his forces accordingly in a small space, whle the defender must scatter his forces across a much larger space.
Also, the West is not prepared for scenarios where Russia will test the peacekeeping mandate and NATO's article 5 not by attacking in Russian uniforms, but by the use of proxies. Irregulars. Little green men. "Local patriots". "Resistence fighters". "Militas. For lawmakers and politicians such "Bucaneer tactics" make things extremely complicated.
ChatGPT, you and Colonel Reisner have never fought in a war, not commanded or planned any. In your desperation, you come here to prove you are right with a program that only can produce what his database gives him, not what the in the field. It never bin in the field and faced any bullet in the real, pathetic. If Ukraine can hold Russia off for 2,9 years on its own do it we NATO next beside with Ukraine can do it we are in wars for decades. We are not the new kid on the block!
Skybird
12-14-24, 08:42 PM
Dont blow this up. ChatGPT was a curiosity, I occasionalyl do things like this with it. And Colonel Reisner, well, he knows a whole damn lot more about all this than you, of this I am very certain, and he provides a dimension that you completely lack: that is historic comparison. Your always maximum-simplicity-based complexity-excluding "optimism" is just reality-denial, and you play with lives that you put at risk by the many thousands, maybe by the millions (historians will know the answer) - just not your own. Gun-ho and to the attack! What could go wrong!?
If things were like your propaganda depicts them as since so long time now, Russian economy should have collapsed since long now, no reinforcements should be reaching the front, no advances should be made, and Ukraine should have triumphed with flying colours already a year ago.
You simply ignore everything in reality that opposes your fantasies. And that gets a bit tiresome. Not to mention that it is extremely dangerous. They were sleepwalking into WW1 this way, not understanding what they were up for. I really recommend to you to read Stefan Zweig's Die Welt von Gestern/The World of Yesterday. It calls the era before WW1 to life. And sometimes such a depiction teaches far more than just sober numbers would and can. There are reasons why they were unable to stop the slip into the war. And nobody saw it comign, and nobody could imagine it.
Your dreamdancing is dangerous, and you are not even aware of it. I was arguing often for a much harder, tougher policy, too - but still I always was much more aware of the inherent risks involved, and the dangers that you just chose to ignore.
Optimism is no adequate perception of reality. Its a distortion, like pessimism, and it has nothing to do with intellect, and much with emotion. Its fully sufficient to see things like they are, not adding anythign, not substracting anything.
Its fascinating however that ChatGPT, in principle nothing else but a cleverly designed search engine interface, came to comparable assessments like Col. Reisner, the one said 25-50 thousand European troops could be mobilised, the other said 50-80 thousand could be mobilised, both indicate that Europe would logistically struggle. Or do you think Reisner asked ChatGPT, too...?! That would be bit rich.
In the end, the reason you do not like Reisner is because he is much more realistic and sober than you are - and that messes your good vibes up quite a bit and ruins your high-flying emotions. How dares he...!
I have nothing against Steiner, but have a long list of highest ranking veteran army commanders that all say the opposite he scribbles on paper. Commanders that lead, planned and executed wars from Vietnam to the present. Commanders in chief of NATO countries, not some colonel of a none NATO country, never seen any battlefield since WW2. ChatGPT has nothing to do with intelligence, it is a program that pulls everything from a human content database that is not intelligent.
Raf1394
12-15-24, 12:05 AM
So that special operation 3 days' to Kyiv has after +2,9 years suddenly become a victory for Russia that only could occupy minor part of Ukraine? I have never seen that logic in history it is a draw, never a victory for Russia and Ukraine. Russia is basically the loser, it will stay what it was for centuries Ukraine will be rebuild invested in and profit from after this war. This is not hope or optimism it is happening in the here and now Ukraine belongs to the west so we the west will prevent them to fail, and we're not letting 15 trillion slip our pockets.
Yes,
And Russia also lost some prestige.
For example the moment they lost the warship Moskva, the Russian flagship of the Black Sea fleet.
And when they invaded Kyiv in a hurry during the first few days. I remember they assaulted the airports with helicopters, or paratroopers behind the enemy lines. You never really know what happend with those troops that were deployed. Were they completely obliterated, or to many casualties and retreated in some way ?
Skybird
12-15-24, 07:08 AM
I have nothing against Steiner, but have a long list of highest ranking veteran army commanders that all say the opposite he scribbles on paper. Commanders that lead, planned and executed wars from Vietnam to the present. Commanders in chief of NATO countries, not some colonel of a none NATO country, never seen any battlefield since WW2.
And I have a - admitted: not as long - list of former NATO Supreme commanders and US generals starring in TV shows now and an Australian general who all boasted how Ukraine will smack the Russians and would even take back Crimea and how their offensive in 2023 would split the Russians and heroic blablabla. And who all ignored the political reality in their home countries and ignored the lacking political will - and who all since then have fallen suspicously silent.
Militaries are prone to think the next war will be fought in the ways they had won their last war. But the Ukraine war has written the books of contemporary warfare new. And fighting according to NATO doctrine while not having all the components that doctrine demands and includes (air power, for exmaple...), does not produce the projected results, necessarily. Not to mention that Ukraine terrain is not the terrain said doctrine was tailored for: Northern and Central Europe. And those regions look a bit difeffent in topography tha much of Ukraine. Not to mention the different infrastructure, weather, and bridges not able to carry heavy Western tanks, and so forth. Plenty of details that you just gloss over or ignore.
What Reisner says is based on reason, insight, and data you and me have no access to, but he has. BTW, Austria may not be formal member, but it interacts and communicates with NATO a lot. ;) Like the Swedes and Fins also did before they became members. Its all behind the stage curtain.
In the end its like I said: you dont like what he says because it spoils your optimistic illusions and you lack the deeper argument and insight to counter his arguments. But its not his job to tell you just those things you want to hear.
ChatGPT has nothing to do with intelligence, I never claimed it does.
it is a program that pulls everything from a human content databaseExactly. Thats why I said it is a cleverly coded search engine interface. Now, what does this tell you about the content and result of its answer? ;)
Skybird
12-15-24, 07:29 AM
[Frankfurter Rundschau] Two Russian oil tankers are in distress off the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, which is annexed by Moscow. One of the ships ran aground on a sandbank, while the second drifted without a rudder, according to the Russian Civil Defense. Eyewitnesses reported that one of the tankers had broken in half - a video of this can also be seen online. The authorities have since confirmed that a large quantity of oil has leaked into the sea. The incident took place in heavy seas in the Kerch Strait between the Russian mainland and Crimea. The strait also separates the Black Sea from the Sea of Azov. A storm warning was issued in Crimea.
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Will it show an effect on the supply situation of Russian troops?Could the oil spill on the ocean be exploited militarily by ukraine?
Jimbuna
12-15-24, 07:38 AM
I am strictly against sending troops as peace keepers if the army sending them is not capable and ready to fight a fully escalating war by its own means and strength, and I am against this for principle reasons, not just in this case.
Putin could initiate a proxy war against these troops where the formal responsibility of Russia is kept in the formally hidden background, so to test NATO's article 5 solidarity, which never was an automatic and mandatory thing, as some people think it is. If then NATO members do not all come to help (and I absolutely doubt they would) , he would have caused the precedence to illustrate that NATO's article 5 is just a hollow word shell, and the relevance of NATO would have suffered a blow, a stain on its jacket that I think it would not recover from. It could be the beginning of a total erosion. It could be the achieving of one of Russia'S most relevant strategic longterm goals: to weaken NATO solidarity, to drive wedges between its members, and to get the US out of Europe.
And which European army is capable to fulfill the mission needs of a regional combat deplyoment in Ukraine against Russia, eh? Britain? Too small. France? Too small. Germany...? Cannot even clean its own bottom. Italy? Spain? Sweden? Finland? Poland? Romania? Who do you want to fool here - the Russians - or yourself...?
Do not send troops somewhere where you risk they will get engaged if you are not militarily and logistically potent to do so. And the truth is: with the exception of maybe the Turks nobobdy on our side of the Atlantic is potent enough to burden such an operation. Too small in numbers. It would also go at the cost of the regional defence capability of any NATO nations donating troops in relevant numbers.
This idea is total madness, basing on surreal optimism and desperate hopes only, lacking any rational sense of realism. It would also be a longtime committment, binding troops that for a long time would not be available for anythign else. National defence, for exmaple.
This is no heroic operetta, nor a funny parade.
Stupid idea.
First you prepare. First you boost your potency, your capability, your equipment, your troops levels, your wartime supply options, your amm reserves, your supplies - and then you consider such adventures, if you think you must. Not the other way around.
Stupid, stupid idea. Irresponsible. You either deploy in strength - or you better dont care to deploy at all.
In total agreement with you :yep:
Jimbuna
12-15-24, 07:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAxlQRTfVfM
Skybird
12-15-24, 11:34 AM
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/deutschland/schwarzer-kanal/focus-kolumne-von-jan-fleischhauerschwarzer-fuerchtet-euch_id_260559969.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
I recently had the opportunity to have a long conversation with the Inspector General of the German Armed Forces, Carsten Breuer. Breuer is a rather reserved person, he lacks anything sharp or snappy. Perhaps that makes his assessment of the situation even more worrying.
When you talk to Breuer, you can get scared and anxious. Most Germans think that if Putin gets his way in Ukraine, there will be peace. But it's no longer about Ukraine The man in Moscow has stated in several speeches that he dreams of a great Russian empire that will reverse the downfall of the Soviet empire.
Since the summer, Putin's entourage has only been talking about the "so-called Baltic states". And if you're done with Lithuania and Latvia, why not go for Poland? Dresden was also once part of the Russian sphere of influence.
Soldiers like Breuer keep a close eye on where barracks are being built and where supply routes are being laid. Russia is working with all its might to expand its military capabilities. It has the ambition to expand the war. And there is a militarization of society that is prepared to support the expansion. If you put all three things together, you are not far from the worst case scenario.
Will there be an attack? He doesn't know either, says Breuer. But what he does know is that Russia is making the necessary preparations, and we need to be prepared for that. If you believe the Inspector General, we still have five or six years to get our armaments up to a level that will allow us to defend ourselves effectively. That is the time frame.
Russia is so strong - because we are so weak. Its only a question of relativity. We should, in theory, be able to economically crush them, en passant. We do not allow ourselves to do so. Instead in Germany we do our best, after already having castrated our military, to now crush our economy and energy reliability as well.
Self-dwarfing at its finest.
Russia appears strong because we are so weak. Economically speaking, it is a dwarf. The gross national product is on the level of South Korea. Is there a product that is viable on the world market? I don't know of any. Even vodka comes from Finland these days. Well, they have oil and gas. It flows out of the ground even when everyone up there is drunk.
Did you know that a quarter of Russians do not even have a normal indoor toilet? No wonder that the Kremlin is now dependent on technology transfer from high-tech countries like North Korea. This is the Russia that is preparing to defeat the West. Europe should be able to hold its own. But then it has to do something about it.
And that is what I cannot see happening. All what I see is politicians creating alibi activism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6JQ0R2KZtk
Markus
Jimbuna
12-15-24, 12:21 PM
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What's with the dark text Marc?
Very difficult to read.
Jimbuna
12-15-24, 12:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Ci4FmorUM
Skybird
12-15-24, 03:04 PM
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What's with the dark text Marc?
Very difficult to read.
Yeah. FOCUS seems to cause that. It was not my choice. But I cannot see it on my monitor when posting it. Looks normal when I post it.
Invert the text.
Skybird
12-15-24, 03:06 PM
Better now? I copied the post text into a txt-file, and from there copied it back into the post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTukcZGDXdc
Speaking of these military experts-They get a little more information from the war than we do. With this knowledge they create a plausible scenario and we the ordinary take this information for granted or not-Depending on where we stand.
Markus
Skybird
12-16-24, 04:21 AM
Ukrai nian military bloggers say that Ukraine was able to consolidate posiitons near Charkiv, but that Russia hasd massively intensified its push on and around Pokrovsk and is pushing Ukraine back there. Some regional French re-blogger quoted an Ukrainian blogger that the Russians have high losses but "although no one understands how and why they can send more and more men, they nevertheless can keep doing so."
Wasn't different in WW2, it drove the Germans crazy. Sovjet losses often were twice and factors higher than German losses. But they kept coming.
Ukrai nian military bloggers say that Ukraine was able to consolidate posiitons near Charkiv, but that Russia hasd massively intensified its push on and around Pokrovsk and is pushing Ukraine back there. Some regional French re-blogger quoted an Ukrainian blogger that the Russians have high losses but "although no one understands how and why they can send more and more men, they nevertheless can keep doing so."
Wasn't different in WW2, it drove the Germans crazy. Sovjet losses often were twice and factors higher than German losses. But they kept coming.
The question is: For how long can they keep on sending thousands of soldiers into the meatgrinder ?
Markus
Skybird
12-16-24, 06:31 AM
The question is: For how long can they keep on sending thousands of soldiers into the meatgrinder ?
Markus
I could swear they asked that question already two years ago.
Russia can send enough 50-65 old into the meat grinder that is it without good boots or winter cloths because someone in the army sold that those old will not survive long in a winter trench. Ukraine does not fight the Russian conscript army, it fights against a Russian contract based army much smaller much harder to replenish. Russian army size ranks second, but that army does not fight, only a very small amount of the poor are fighting in Ukraine. That second ranked army must defend the whole of Russia with a land border of 22,457 kilometres. Not only the Europe-Russia border but also the Asia-Russia border. You can not compare the total in any calculation, you can not throw all on one front and leave China on your back door capable to walk in and be sure they will take back what they see what is theirs in Russia. Demographic does not allow Russia to provide the front and production the needed personnel.
Jimbuna
12-16-24, 08:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rzA3WyYl74
Jimbuna
12-16-24, 08:34 AM
Better now? I copied the post text into a txt-file, and from there copied it back into the post.
Much better thanks.
Ukraine Announces New Laser Weapon, Capable of Targeting Aircraft (https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukraine-announces-new-laser-weapon-capable-of-targeting-aircraft-4498)Ukraine now possesses laser weaponry, named ‘Tryzub,’ according to Colonel Vadym Sukharevskyi, Commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems. “We can confidently state that Ukraine has become, as far as I know, the fifth country in the world to have laser weapons,” Sukharevskyi announced during the "European Defense Industry: Prospects for Cooperation with Ukraine’s Defense Industry" conference. “Today, we can already use this laser to shoot down aircraft at altitudes exceeding 2 kilometers.”
Sukharevskyi highlighted that efforts are underway to scale and enhance the capabilities of the Tryzub laser. “It truly works, it truly exists,” he emphasized. Speaking about the broader scope of the Unmanned Systems Forces, Sukharevskyi noted, “We are less than six months old, yet we already have combat and research units addressing air, land, and water components.” He added that the Unmanned Systems Forces are actively operating across the entire frontline
Russia's losses in the Pokrovsk direction also exceed the total troop numbers of some European armies, such as Italy or Germany. (https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/in-their-attempts-to-capture-pokrovsk-the-russian-army-has-lost-nearly-600-tanks-more-than-the-total-some-european-armies-have-4496)Every fifth casualty since the start of Russia's full-scale invasion is attributed to the Pokrovsk campaign. Russia has lost over 150,000 soldiers—killed or wounded—in this operation. Overall, Russia's total losses in the war exceed 750,000.Russia's equipment losses are even more staggering. Visually confirmed data shows that during the Pokrovsk offensive alone, Russia lost 582 tanks, while Ukraine's losses were five times smaller.
Additionally, 1,220 armored vehicles, 110 trucks, and 90 artillery systems have been destroyed or damaged.
These losses are greater than Germany’s total losses during the Battle of Stalingrad in World War II.
To put this into perspective, Russia can produce about 200 new tanks annually (15–20 units per month). This means it cannot replace its losses through new production, and these tank losses are just from one part of the frontline, not the overall war.
Putin just don't care on how many thousands soldiers and material he is going to lose in his effort to take Pokrovsk.
Markus
Jimbuna
12-16-24, 11:57 AM
Putin just don't care on how many thousands soldiers and material he is going to lose in his effort to take Pokrovsk.
Markus
Aye but only until the Russian population get to know the true figures.
^I really hope he does not get a conscience by Xmas the more Russians die the better, the sooner this meat grinder grinds down because of meat starvation.
Aye but only until the Russian population get to know the true figures.They know Russians like in the Soviet time know what their leaders are nothing has changed, only the price hike of 74% on coffins.
Jimbuna
12-16-24, 12:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53f1mFLGjag
Jimbuna
12-16-24, 12:45 PM
Trump: There is "little progress" on resolving war in Ukraine
US President-elect Donald Trump said he is working hard to end Russia's war against Ukraine and has already made "a little progress."
He said this while speaking at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, Censor.NET reports.
"We are very active in helping to return hostages, as you know, in Israel and the Middle East. We are working very hard on that. We're also trying to stop the war, this terrible, terrible war in Ukraine. We're making a little bit of progress," Trump said.
He added that this is a "difficult, unpleasant case."
"The number of soldiers killed on both sides is 'astronomical'. I have never seen anything like it. We are doing our best, we will see what happens," the Republican said.
In addition, he said that his team intends to hold contacts with Russian dictator Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to "put an end" to this war.
Earlier, National Security Advisor to US President-elect Donald Trump Mike Waltz commented on Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban's idea of a "Christmas truce" between Ukraine and Russia.
Also, US President-elect Donald Trump said he wants to reach a peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia and plans to put pressure on Russia.
He also considers the war in Ukraine a higher priority than the conflict in the Middle East. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3525386
Moonlight
12-16-24, 01:08 PM
There'd be a lot more progress if Putin pulled his troops out of The Ukraine, it's just a thought, it's not going to happen, things will come to a head if the Western leaders grew some balls and backed Ukraine with some manpower, lots of manpower.
Jimbuna
12-16-24, 01:26 PM
The fear being that Putin would then go nuclear.
In the first half of 2024 alone, Ukraine produced 25 times more artillery and mortar ammunition than in the entirety of 2022, including the production of four million drones annually. Earlier this summer, Ukraine’s Peklo rocket drone entered mass production, with 100 units manufactured in just three months. The drones are produced using 70% locally sourced components from both state and private companies. Ukraine’s military arsenal continues to evolve with the introduction of the Sapsan missile, a new weapon designed to strengthen the country’s strike capabilities. The Sapsan is a small, fast cruise missile, offering a hybrid design that combines the functionality of a drone and a traditional missile. Unlike typical drones that fly at speeds of 150-200 km/h, the Sapsan can reach speeds of up to 700 km/h. The Tryzub can fire a hair-fine laser beam at a small drone flying in the distance. Seconds later, the destroyed drone crashes. No big explosion, no collateral damage. And all remotely controlled with an Xbox controller. Cost of this shot? Less than 3 euros. Especially the low cost of the weapon, compared to expensive anti-aircraft missiles, will be a significant advantage for Ukraine.
What Ukraine needs more is capital investments beside boots on the ground and more equipment manpower is not the real problem, it is the tools and munition. The European Union will train 75,000 Ukrainian military personnel as part of its EUMAM training mission by February 2025 this is on top of Ukraine's own training program that goal was 160k.
This video fits both here and in our Conflict in Syria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXRaHDUXHKg
Markus
Skybird
12-16-24, 05:17 PM
Aye but only until the Russian population get to know the true figures.
Or they see themselves even more as victims of Western imperialism and rally even further around Putin'S narrative.
The output of tanks by Russian factories, new or refurbished does not matter, is much higher than just 200, btw. Add another 1 before that number so that it has 4 digits and not three, and you get closer to the real dimension of present output.
By the end of the day, the only relevant thing for the battlefield is this: that Russians conutne to pump troops and equipment into the frontline sectors., How they can do it, is of no real interest currently since Russian production still is not allowed to get bombed with Western weapons anyway, and Ukraine'S self-made options to try that are extremely limited.
I would not mind to see the Russian army getting further degraded, its just that there is a price for that: the ongoing destruction of Ukraine. Thats no winning strategy, but a self-destruction strategy. Oh, wait, I forgot: Ukraine is not really "us", its just "them".
German military top staff expects Russia to be able to have rebuild its forces in 5- 6 years for achieving the ability to attack NATO countries with confidence. They must have their reasons for that assessment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3TtkRSXGHo
Markus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWbS8y-RH7I
Markus
Catfish
12-17-24, 05:57 AM
Trump: There is "little progress" on resolving war in Ukraine
Ah. What about ending it in a day then.
Jimbuna
12-17-24, 06:35 AM
Ah. What about ending it in a day then.
Yep :)
Jimbuna
12-17-24, 06:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJxe7HC6TE4
In March 2022, Russia occupied approximately 30% of Ukraine, but nearly three years later, it now holds only about 20%. This reduction has come at the expense of huge figures in casualties, significant lose in equipment, significant mobilization efforts, and a devastated economy. Russia has also faced setbacks on the global stage. Finland and Sweden have joined NATO, Armenia has been attacked by Azerbaijan is set to exit the CSTO, the Assad regime has collapsed. Overall, Russia is overstretched. Nearly three years into the full-scale invasion, Russia has failed to capture any of the 23 regional capitals and cities with special status that Ukraine controlled at the onset of the invasion. 0/23! What a pathetic failure! Russia's economy is overheating and cannot sustain the current pace indefinitely. Russia is extremely unlikely to achieve its initial strategic goals in Ukraine, and Putin will have failed, regardless of how propaganda frames this failure as a victory.
https://i.ibb.co/SsGdZYT/2022vs2024.jpg (https://ibb.co/gjhPcq1)
Poverty rising, food shortages, high inflation, ruble devaluation, infrastructure problems resulting in sewage fountains, interest rates 21% heading, strikes all across Russia. Yes, Russia's performance is unprecedented. Keep on going. :up: Putin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW3enrV5hV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p3LPjXKImg
Jimbuna
12-17-24, 01:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoNAmWPqxwM
Jimbuna
12-17-24, 01:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQnQ0RkCY1c
Raf1394
12-17-24, 02:13 PM
The Russian government will kinda look for revenge, or the Russian military. But imagine if the roles were changed. And the Russians assassinated a Ukrainian general out in Kyiv. The whole world would cry out that the Russians are evil, and don't take the safety of people around that area for real...
''innocent children could have died''.
What would the reaction be if some innocent Russian kid in that area also got hit by schrapnel?
War always has two sides.
Revenge? Russia attacks Ukraine cities/civilians daily, that not enough to quell revenge. Ukraine is used to this, it is their normal.
Will this be the war where the combatants goes from boots on the ground to autonomous warfare ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jKz7PZkMlk
Markus
Skybird
12-17-24, 04:39 PM
War always has two sides.
Russia planned to assassinate the whole Ukrainian leadership in their early drive - or attempt of - for Kyiv in February 2022. It were Western intel services - and rumored: Western commandos - assisting the Ukrainian government to escape that fate.
Russia is the aggressor, the invader, the villain in all this, do not forget this. Ulkraine is its victim that now must fight for its mere survival. And the general who got killed, conducted chemical attacks both on troops and civilians wihtout discriminating, and was one of the hardliners amongst the fascists in the Kremlin.
Don't put the victim of the Russian invasion and the perpetrator conducting it on the same level. They are not the same.
Skybird
12-17-24, 06:31 PM
[FOCUS] Ukrainian soldiers are said to have spied on the movements of F-16 fighter jets and other military secrets for Russia. Four members of the army were arrested in the Dnipropetrovsk region, according to the Ukrainian General Prosecutor's Office in Kiev.
A soldier with pro-Russian convictions is considered the main suspect. He had recruited three comrades to gather information. He pretended to them that he was working for Ukrainian intelligence services. The SBU intelligence service even spoke of a network of twelve people. Some of them had deserted the army. There was no independent confirmation of this information.
Where the few US-made Western F-16s are stationed and deployed is one of Ukraine's most important military secrets. Russia repeatedly hunts down the aircraft with missile attacks on air bases such as Starokostyantyniv in western Ukraine.
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In times of war like these, treason of this kind probably means court martial and firing squad.
les green01
12-17-24, 10:00 PM
The Russian government will kinda look for revenge, or the Russian military. But imagine if the roles were changed. And the Russians assassinated a Ukrainian general out in Kyiv. The whole world would cry out that the Russians are evil, and don't take the safety of people around that area for real...
''innocent children could have died''.
What would the reaction be if some innocent Russian kid in that area also got hit by schrapnel?
War always has two sides.
How many kids been blown up by the ruskies or maybe froze to death because they don't have heat or power maybe the Russian civilians get the same taste they put Putin out I had a friend who sent me pictures of Ukraine dead children some was missing heads some badly burnt some of them pics would probably made you throw up
In March 2022, Russia occupied approximately 30% of Ukraine, but nearly three years later, it now holds only about 20%
I actually thought Russia had steadily taken more of Ukraine's land, quite a shock!! :o
Excellent news Dargo, I keep praying for Ukraine, hopefully Poo-tin is pushed out altogether soon!:yep:
Skybird
12-18-24, 04:47 AM
Naaah, that was the counteroffensive from 2022, autumn. In the past24 montgs or so the Ukrainians did not repeat that and Russia bit out chunk after chunk of the Ukrainian territory. In Kursk, Ukraine has also lost 50+ % of the grounds it took there. Over 2024 the Russian advance has accelerated.
Oh poo!! Spoil sport!! :yep:
sh3rules
12-18-24, 07:47 AM
Eventually the Russians get tired of waging war, look what happened to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. And look what happened to the Soviet Union a few years later. Will Russia continue to attack Ukraine for 5 or 10 more years until they get tired?
Naaah, that was the counteroffensive from 2022, autumn. In the past24 montgs or so the Ukrainians did not repeat that and Russia bit out chunk after chunk of the Ukrainian territory. In Kursk, Ukraine has also lost 50+ % of the grounds it took there. Over 2024 the Russian advance has accelerated.Russia made its largest advances in two years in November 2024. Russian control of Ukrainian territory has increased from 17.4% in November 2023 to 17.9% as of 30 November 2024. A large proportion of the land is rural and not of huge strategic or operational value. Russian forces have mostly encircled but not yet taken major cities, and few major rail or road arteries have been severed recently.Though Vuhledar and Avdiivka were significant objectives, Russia has not fundamentally unhinged Ukraine’s defensive positions. Their territory gains are mostly agricultural land, and their losses – 30-50,000 troops [either dead or injured] a month – are completely unsustainable. The Russians won’t have waves of infantry and vehicles to send like they used to, assuming the current rate of attrition holds over the next year. They are performing very poorly.Russian control over four illegally annexed regions has steadily grown across, 2024 but behind the , estimated percentage of land under Russian control. Based on the statement by the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Valery Gerasimov, that Russia successfully achieved all its military objectives in 2024, its goals for the past year must have been:
Allowing a foreign military to invade its territory and occupy it for the first time since World War II,
Failing to push Ukraine out of the Kursk region after months of fighting and instead involve the North Korean army in human wave attacks,
Losing Syria in about just ten days after a decade of direct military intervention
Losing several major ammunition depots, air bases, and oil storage facilities to Ukrainian missile and drone strikes,
Capturing record-high 3,140 km of Ukrainian territory through meat-grinder assaults in the third year of the war,
Staging a bombastic nuclear intimidation escapade in the media that ended up being comically ignored by Western leaders,
Getting an overheated economy due to colossal military spending with high risks of stagflation,
Entering the fourth year of the Kyiv-in-three-days special operation with 600,000 casualties and the prospects of freezing the war.
If so, without a doubt, it's a triumphal success of the world's second-largest military against Ukraine.
Jimbuna
12-18-24, 11:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qvlWGVnppY
Jimbuna
12-18-24, 11:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teYEBqYJKrM
The State Duma of Russia proposes to introduce food cards throughout the country (https://fact-news.com.ua/en/the-state-duma-of-russia-proposes-to-introduce-food-cards-throughout-the-country/)The State Duma of the Russian Federation proposed to introduce food cards throughout the country due to rising prices. The idea was called “rational”, Russian mass media reported.
Anatoliy Aksakov, head of the State Duma Committee on the Financial Market, supported the initiative to return the food stamps system that operated during the USSR. Previously, similar measures were announced by the governor of the Kaliningrad region. However, Aksakov expressed the opinion that such cards should be implemented at the national level to support socially vulnerable sections of the population. However, he did not specify what product limit this system would provide for.
“According to the data of the Ministry of Economic Development on December 9, annual inflation in Russia reached 9.2% – the highest level since February 2023. Alternative metrics, however, show significantly higher numbers.”, says the message. In the Kaliningrad region, food cards will start operating in 2025. First, they will be distributed to pensioners whose income does not exceed the subsistence minimum.In the meantime:
The Russian corporate bond market has completely collapsed.
Equities, digging for the bottom.
How can anyone do business with interest rates above 23%?
The banking sector will follow soon.
The stock market fell to a 2.5-year low (the worst RTS index value since February 2022).
On November 27-28, the RUB/USD exchange rate exceeded 115, and the RUB/CNY rate surpassed 15 (the worst levels since March 2022).
The RGBI bond index dropped below 97 (the lowest level in its entire recorded history).
Inflation went through the ceiling: weekly inflation from November 26 to December 2 reached 0.5%, while monthly inflation for November stood at 1.7%, marking the worst figures since April 2022.
Business begin mass sacking people to prevent bankruptcy.
Jimbuna
12-18-24, 11:36 AM
Now that is a crying shame :oops:
https://i.postimg.cc/pTG3Sdgs/liaranimatedanimationli-1.gif (https://postimages.org/)
Exocet25fr
12-18-24, 11:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyyIfgwbV0
Jimbuna
12-18-24, 11:41 AM
Kremlin appointees ask for additional security due to success of Resistance Forces - NRC
In the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine, the gauleiters appointed by the Russian authorities have begun to demand that the Kremlin strengthen their security.
This was reported by the National Resistance Center, Censor.NET reports.
The reason was concern over the successful operations of Ukrainian forces to eliminate enemies in Russia's rear and in the occupied territories.
In particular, the heads of the occupation administrations requested additional security for their deputies and heads of the so-called "departments." The chief gauleiters have long been traveling exclusively under guard, and some, such as Volodymyr Saldo, even avoid staying in frontline areas to save their lives.
However, the National Resistance Center notes that the Kremlin is unlikely to tighten security for traitors because they are not valuable to it. Eliminating such individuals is beneficial to Moscow, as it allows it to create a death cult and easily replace "heroes" with touring soldiers from other regions.
According to the NRC, the Kremlin is likely to refuse this request, which will further increase panic among the collaborators. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3525806
Jimbuna
12-18-24, 11:45 AM
Most intense situation is in Kursk, Pokrovsk, Kurakhove and Vremivka directions - General Staff
As of 4 p.m., the number of combat engagements in the frontline increased to 138. The situation is the most intense in the Kursk, Pokrovsk, Kurakhove and Vremivka directions.
This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to the report of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The situation in the north
Today, the enemy's artillery and mortar fire hit communities in Sumy and Chernihiv regions, such as Semenivka, Yanzhulivka, Turia, Hrabovske, Velyka Pysarivka and Ponomarenky; the invader fired at Krasnopillia with MLRS; and at Oleksandrivka with free-flight aerial rocket.
In the Kharkiv direction, an enemy attack on the positions of our units near Vovchansk continues. The enemy launched air strikes on Vovchanske Khutory and Udy.
In the Kupiansk direction, Russian occupiers attacked the Defense Forces three times in the areas of Petropavlivka and Lozova. Two firefights are still ongoing. Ukrainian soldiers are steadfastly holding the line and inflicting losses on the enemy.
The situation in Donbas
In the Lyman direction, the invading army conducted 11 attacks on Ukrainian positions near Hrekivka, Novoiehorivka, Nadiia, Yampolivka and Terny during the day. Six combat engagements ended, five more are ongoing.
Three attacks by enemy troops were repelled by Ukrainian defenders in the Siversk direction, and a battle is currently underway near Verkhnokamianske.
Three times the enemy tried to advance in the area of Chasiv Yar, Hryhorivka and in the direction of Bila Hora, the fighting continues.
In the Toretsk direction, with the support of aviation, the enemy is trying to break into our defense in the area of Toretsk, Dyliivka and Shcherbynivka, eight firefights are ongoing.
In the Pokrovsk direction, Russian invaders made 27 attempts to drive our defenders out of their positions in the areas of Myroliubivka, Promin, Lysivka, Dachenske, Zelene, Novovasylivka, Chumatske and Novooleonivka. The defense forces are holding back the onslaught and repelled 19 enemy attacks, eight combat engagements are still ongoing.
In the Kurakhove direction, the enemy army attacked 14 times near the settlements of Sontsivka, Stari Terny, Kurakhove and Dachne. Nine attempts by the occupiers to advance have already been repelled.
In the Vremivka direction, 15 hostile attacks took place near Kostiantynopolske, Rozlyv, Velyka Novosilka, Blahodatne, Novyi Komar and Storozheve. Six combat engagements are ongoing.
The enemy conducted an offensive near Novoandriivka in the Orikhivsk direction, the attack was repelled by Ukrainian units.
The operation in the Kursk region continues. Enemy aircraft continue to raze villages and towns to the ground. Since the beginning of the day, Russian planes have carried out 14 strikes (17 GABs) on their own territory. Ukrainian soldiers repelled 36 enemy attacks today, and the fighting continues. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3525788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyyIfgwbV0Spoiler; CCTV is funded in whole or in part by the Chinese government.
Jimbuna
12-18-24, 01:06 PM
Spoiler; CCTV is funded in whole or in part by the Chinese government.
Now there's a surprise :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_jTEAQYcss
Skybird
12-19-24, 07:58 AM
https://www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/internationales/ukrainische-attacken-mit-grossen-wirkungen-die-erste-bilanz-der-weitreichenden-raketenangriffe-auf-russland-12891250.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
The use of ATACMS beyond (but still limited to near) the border has effects and helped to reduce the number of glide bomb attacks. However, that the US always delivers just small quantities and that France and the UK cannot deliver much more cruise missiles, coupled with that the Russians adapt and learn how to jam and bring down more and more of these numerically limited projectiles, commands mixed conclusions on how much a difference it all makes. The Russian pace in its advance on the ground may or may not have changed, but they still advance, and significantly so.
Next time window of interest for possible changes is opening not before January 20th.
Skybird
12-19-24, 08:08 AM
[Frankfurter Rundschau] Russian President Vladimir Putin will most likely not achieve his goal of expelling Ukraine from the Kursk region by the end of the year. This was indicated by the Russian Chief of the General Staff, Valery Gerasimov, during a press conference. Moscow actually wanted to have successfully repelled the Ukrainian offensive in Kursk by October.
But on the ground, Russian soldiers are still fighting alongside North Korean troops against the Ukrainian armed forces. Gerasimov did say at the press conference that all of the military's tasks had been completed by 2024, according to the US newspaper Newsweek. However, Russia was unable to claim credit for the expulsion of the Ukrainian armed forces from Kursk.
Gerasimov's statements raise the question of what priorities Russia is currently pursuing in its all-out war in Ukraine, which has been going on for almost three years. Earlier statements by Putin gave the impression that the recapture of Kursk was at the top of Moscow's agenda.
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They take more time and higher losses, still, they push Ukraine back, have recaptured half of the territory in Kursk by now, and still taking more, slowly, but constantly. In this way, its only a question of time - and costs.
Which is also true for Ukraine which has sacrificed some of its elite troops to drive the Kursk adventure. Elite units that then were missing in the defence against the Russian advance in the East. Ukraine may cause Russian high losses in Kursk, but it paid for that with high own losses and a desastrous situation at Wuledar and Pokrovsk, which is the reason why I see the Kursk adventure as a terrible mistake, and a fiasco. Also, the hoped-for move of Russian forces from the Eastern front to Kursk never took place. But I indicated that opinion of mine already during the opening stage of that move, arguing it possibly only illustrates how desperate the Ukrainian situation is that they think they must break out of the then current situation at any cost to change how the war is more and more turning against them. So, maybe that mistake can be explained, or "understood". Nevertheless, it was and is a mistake, imho. A very, very costly one.
Jimbuna
12-19-24, 09:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acRtApb5-jU
Jimbuna
12-19-24, 09:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OnfGDky1Ts
Ukraine constantly poses dilemmas to the Russians, increasing their vulnerability. Ukraine deliberately gave up ground to buy time so they could train their reserve brigades in agility and flexibility. You can see the results of those highly mobile brigades now in Kursk and Kuyansk. They have no other choice either, as they do not have the same mass of troops as the Russians. I don't think the Ukrainians will give up Pokrovsk easily. And besides, as soon as the Russians approach the outskirts of the city, their advance will slow down. Indeed, there is a big difference between warfare in the countryside and in a city like Pokrovsk itself. It is a fairly large city, and it will take the Russians a lot of men and equipment to make progress there. It is itself something very different from the current trench-to-trench combat. Furthermore, it is also possible that the Ukrainians abandoned their positions around Pokrovsk to prepare to defend the city.
You can trace this difference in approach to the two countries' different military cultures. The Russians rely on the massive deployment of artillery and manpower in one place to force breakthroughs, in a kind of bulldozer tactic with which they may not gain much, but do so consistently. In contrast, the Ukrainians focus on movement, a strategy known in the West as manoeuvre warfare. In doing so, they are constantly trying to exploit the agile capability of their troops. In places where the Russians are leaving gaps, Ukrainian manoeuvre warfare is well suited to regaining ground. So they look for offensive opportunities to exploit their manoeuvrability, while Russia applies its bulldozer tactics in places like Pokrovsk. It is a clash of two different worldviews, with divergent philosophies, leadership and doctrines. There is also a marked difference in training. The Russians send their troops to the front relatively quickly, often after only four to six weeks of training. Ukraine, on the other hand, opts for thorough training of their brigades. They were given that time because the major Russian offensive never really took off.
By constantly posing new threats, forcing Russia to make choices about where to deploy its troops. This increases Russia's vulnerability By having a presence in Pokrovsk, Russia risks having no reserves left for other critical areas. It remains to be seen how this plays out further. If there comes a deal next year it will not be a peace deal it will be temporally freeze deal Ukraine people will never not now and not in the future accept a permanent loss of land. There is a hard core in the army and among the people, that will start a guerrilla war in the occupied territories, like in WW2 until Stalin's death. Russia will never know peace (not in Ukraine but also not in Russia), there will remain a large army in the occupied territories and never be able to control it, Ukraine will be able to keep this up for more than 10 years like last time. Majority of Ukraine people wants to start negotiations with Russia but refuses to give up land to Russia! Also ukraine has to change its constitution it has a law that forbids give up Ukrainian territory no 24Hr thing to do. And without real security guarantees, it's never going to be anything, nor is there going to be a deal in any form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvSVdcQJPCg
Markus
Skybird
12-19-24, 07:32 PM
Internal problems of the Ukrainian army.
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise/ukrainische-militaerexperten-schlagen-alarm-diese-vier-dinge-laufen-falsch-in-kiews-armee_id_260576687.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
In the meantime on the other side of the frontline windows open in case of critic! At least Ukraine does work on the problems, Russia never gave an F they let their troops starve in knee deep mud trenches surrounded with bodies of their former rotting occupants without good footwear and winter clothes led by utterly corrupt command.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox9_V-APOGg
Raf1394
12-20-24, 04:44 AM
There is something i really wanted to ask or know about this conflict.
I sometimes try to look at both sides of the story. I don't agree what Russia is doing. But the idea was never to destroy Ukraine like we see today.
Back in 2022 they wanted to launch a fast attack to remove the pro-west Ukrainian government and replace it with a puppet government that supports Russia. That fast attack failed completely, and now they are stuck in a almost three years war. One of the key demands of Putin to end the war is a agreement that Ukraine never joins NATO.
But sometimes i try to see the Russian side of the story. Everybody knows if a country joins NATO, they form a military alliance with NATO. Its possible that in theory, every big nation (for example the US) can put nuclear weapons in that country. If Ukraine joins NATO, everybody know every NATO country can install there nukes or tactical weapons or any kind of military in Ukraine. And Ukraine is right next to Russia. Moscow is in reach.
What i basically want to say, is that Russia feels kinda scared, knowing that thing could happen... They are scared of the NATO expansions towards the east. At the end of the cold war. There was even an agreement that no one would expand there influence. And have a bufferzone. But since then the NATO did expand.
I feel this story looks like a lot like the Cuba Missile Crisis, in 1962.
Cuba wanted to work together with the Soviet Union
(they have the right to do so) The US feels threatened, because the Soviet Union can have nuclear missiles in Cuba, being pointed at the US.
The US also had the Bay of Pigs invasion. the same idea like Russia did towards Ukraine. (not on that same scale) but still.
I feel like all these conflicts are just a big war of influence.
And joining the European Union is not the same thing like joining NATO. A country can still join the EU, but not join the NATO.
That the people in Ukraine want to ally themselves more with the EU, is there democratic right. But suddenly joining NATO gives this weird feeling to the Russians they are thinking things like ''Hmmm you join the EU, okay... But why do you form a military alliance with NATO?''
Catfish
12-20-24, 04:55 AM
'Russia feels threatened."
I understand that they are afraid of retaliation after what Putin did.
Rightly so.
Jimbuna
12-20-24, 05:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkbgMm0EYbg
Jimbuna
12-20-24, 05:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgGMtAkt9y0
sh3rules
12-20-24, 07:19 AM
But sometimes i try to see the Russian side of the story.
May the Russians reap what they have sown. May Russian cities get destroyed just like they have destroyed Ukrainian cities.
Everybody knows if a country joins NATO, they form a military alliance with NATO. Its possible that in theory, every big nation (for example the US) can put nuclear weapons in that country. If Ukraine joins NATO, everybody know every NATO country can install there nukes or tactical weapons or any kind of military in Ukraine. And Ukraine is right next to Russia. Moscow is in reach.
Russia already shares a border with Norway, the three Baltic nations and now Finland, all members of NATO. I believe the Baltics are even closer to Moscow than Ukraine so annexing Ukraine brings Russia no advantage in that department at all.
BTW the Bay of Pigs was called off before any US troops were deployed. That kind of destroys the analogy.
Jimbuna
12-20-24, 01:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qU_eaOyKDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-_fJKnifbA
Markus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqAwPf8_1hY
Markus
Skybird
12-21-24, 06:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-_fJKnifbA
Markus
... if the European NATO members agree to boost their defence budgets to 5%, he gets quoted with in German media. Briefly. Before hiding it completely again.
Will not happen in most cases. And certainly not in Germany's case.
That 5% is not what is gone to be the deal it will be more 3–3.5% the US even does not contribute 5%. In dollar terms, the US represents about two-thirds of NATO countries' annual defence spending, budgeting an estimated $967bn. This represents about 3.4 percent of the $28.7 trillion US economy. 3–3.5% is possibly for the northern countries. Money is not the real problem, the military production can not keep up with the orders, this is case in the whole West, not only Europe. If you want to order a patriot battery, you have to wait years till they can deliver and that only one of the weapon systems, there are many more.
Jimbuna
12-22-24, 09:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz6hQHxqKCU
Skybird
12-22-24, 10:08 AM
That 5% is not what is gone to be the deal it will be more 3–3.5% the US even does not contribute 5%. In dollar terms, the US represents about two-thirds of NATO countries' annual defence spending, budgeting an estimated $967bn. This represents about 3.4 percent of the $28.7 trillion US economy. 3–3.5% is possibly for the northern countries. Money is not the real problem, the military production can not keep up with the orders, this is case in the whole West, not only Europe. If you want to order a patriot battery, you have to wait years till they can deliver and that only one of the weapon systems, there are many more.
He said "5%", and if he does not step back from that, that demand is what the Europeans will have to deal with - "or else". The Europeans' deficit in ability and military potential is so huge that it makes sense to demand them to do more to catch up, in %GDP, than the US, which has maintained its military in much more potent shape. Not ideal shape, but still much more potent.
BTW, prodcution capcities can (and must) be boosted. Many in Europe simpyl are too stupid to understand that, however. Either it takes them eons to get started, or they even fail to initiate even this restart. Money spending priorities in Europe are upside down anyway. Time to get the fuzzy dreaming out of it all, and focus on what really is urgent, relevant, important. EU fantasies and ideological fanatism are not part of that, pover-bureaucracy and over-regulation must be drmataiclaly cut back. It s suffocating all and everything like mildew that covers the land.
Russia is not at all in a position to demand concessions from Ukraine or the West. Moscow has had the initiative on the battlefield for months. But the losses are so great that Putin should be making concessions, not Ukraine. We see in real time how Putin is sacrificing the economy for a few fields in the Donbas.It is with amazement, sometimes even frustration, that George Barros (https://www.understandingwar.org/press-media/staff-bios/george-barros) has seen in recent months how many Western politicians view the war between Russia and Ukraine: as if the Russian war machine knows no way around and can draw on resources that never run out. As if Vladimir Putin has a strong position in any negotiations. In truth, Russia - its armed forces, its economy, its people - is running on its gums, Barros says. ‘Russia cannot sustain this for more than six to eight months at this rate. Meanwhile, Putin wants us to believe that the map is changing and that a Russian victory is inevitable. That appears to be working.’ For a decade, the US analyst has been producing threat assessments on Russia, with a focus on Ukraine, now as head of the ‘Russia Team’ at the Institute for the Study of War, a renowned think tank in Washington. His message: there is no reason for Ukraine to give even an inch to Putin, or make concessions to end the war. ‘Rather the other way around.’ Putin, Barros says from Washington, is trying to find a way out so that he can avoid a whole series of dilemmas that he himself created, because he never planned to wage a prolonged war. ‘Within 18 to 24 months there will be production problems of a strategic level, which will hit Russia hard and require very big decisions. What Putin is doing now, especially near the city of Pokrovsk, is increasing the pace of his operations to create the impression among analysts and policymakers in the West that Russia is going to win the war, and that therefore we should all try to find a way out of this conflict.’
Meanwhile, after almost three years, Russia is still making progress on the front.
‘The rate at which Russia is suffering losses in eastern Ukraine is catastrophic. People have become somewhat numb to how catastrophic those losses are, but it is completely unsustainable. If you gather all the indicators about the state of the Russian economy, the demographic situation and the inability of their defence industry to continue operations at the current rate, it is unsustainable. And I have become increasingly certain of that.’
How do you assess the Russian advance at the front?
‘They have been trying to advance towards Pokrovsk for almost a year, following the capture of Avdiivka in February. Western analyses about a ‘rapid advance’ are exaggerated. If you compare the numbers to what should be the norm in a modern mechanised war, Russian performance is abominable. Contrast the ground gains with the losses. Last year, they lost over five hundred tanks and more than a thousand infantry fighting vehicles around Avdiivka and Pokrovsk alone - in exchange for forty kilometres of territory. During World War II, offensive operations often involved forty kilometres in a few days or a few hours, not 12 months. What Russia is doing has nothing to do with tactical ingenuity; it is about mass. Putin does not care. He deliberately chooses to sacrifice Russian combat power and economy for terrain gains. Russia is losing an average of 53 soldiers per square kilometre captured - colossal.’
Many analysts argue that they nevertheless continue to gain ground.
‘If you analyse the war map, you see that Russian soldiers are dying for the capture of fields and villages. Last year, Russia captured two operationally significant places: Avdiivka and Vukhledar. Last spring, there was already talk of the fall of Chasiv Yar. That is still in Ukrainian hands.’
Yet Moscow still seems to be able to absorb all those losses.
‘The reason Russia can fight on is that they are burning up their stock of military vehicles from the Soviet legacy, not because industry is now building those vehicles. There is one factory that builds 20–35 tanks a month, and two factories that produce 20 ejection tubes for tanks and artillery every month. Russia loses three hundred tanks and artillery pieces every month. By the end of 2025, those Soviet stocks will reach critical levels. That will force Moscow to change tactics, using infantrymen instead of tanks. That will not only slow them down, it will further increase their losses.’Russia loses an average of 53 soldiers per square kilometre capturedHow long can Russia cope with personnel losses?
‘The Russian armed forces lose about 30,000 soldiers a month on average in Ukraine. Recently, that has been closer to 45,000 to 50,000 a month. So far, they are making up for that by continuing to raise wages, which has allowed them to recruit some 30,000 new soldiers a month over the last two years. But we have already seen a governor ask Moscow to reduce the quota for supplying soldiers through his region. Salaries are rising as fewer and fewer men sign up. Using North Koreans and recruiting Houthis from Yemen are attempts by the Kremlin to tap alternative sources. With this rate of losses, the question is not whether Putin should declare a new mobilisation, but when.’
And that will put additional strain on the Russian economy.
‘We have seen reports saying that the Russian economy is short some five million workers. You cannot serve in the army and work at the same time. There is a huge strain on the economy, also because of the many war casualties and the exodus of men in the first round of mobilisation.’
Skyrocketing inflation is also not much of a hope for Putin.
‘The high salaries for soldiers and huge spending on the defence industry are driving up prices for civilians very high. A new round of mobilisation will add to the labour problem, as will extremely high salaries, which will drive up inflation. We are effectively watching the implosion of the Russian economy.’
When do you expect its effect on the war?
‘If Russia continues like this for another year and a half, it seems very likely to me that the West can force a breakthrough where Putin has to make concessions. You can break the backbone of the Russian economy, as the US did under President Reagan with the arms race in the 1980s. Or Russia will suffer losses on the battlefield due to shortage of manpower. It really is a strategic mistake if now, looking for a way to end the war, we destroy the advantage that has been built up over the past three years: the Russian economy is on the verge of breaking, they are losing their prosperity and have lost a lot of soldiers. The longer we keep Putin in this situation, the greater the chance of a better deal for Ukraine and the West. That's how vulnerable Putin is.’
How should the West approach Putin?
‘We should put the problem with him. Look how Erdoğan showed in Syria how to deal with the Russians. Keep pushing until they become vulnerable. You pull the rug out from under them and confront them with a new reality. Then you force them to take their losses, exactly as happened in Syria. There is no reason to believe that the Russians would handle a loss in Ukraine any differently. On the contrary: the Russian adventure in Ukraine is a whole series of defeats.’
Yet Western politicians seem impressed by Putin's ‘red lines’.
‘Yes, it is frustrating. Ten years ago, it was said in Washington that supplying Javelins [a weapon used to shoot anti-aircraft missiles] to Ukraine would lead to World War III. We have been having that same debate every day for the last two years. The US administration is learning slowly and in small steps, but eventually they are coming to the right conclusions. One lesson of this war must be that the gradual scaling-up of arms support does not work. This allows the Russians to adapt each time, when you should be surprising them and confronting them with losses.’
Do we know what Putin's red lines really are?
‘No, there are no automatic red lines. Russia has a doctrine stating how they will react, but ultimately a general or adviser will have to go to Putin to ask. As long as there is a human decision, we never know for sure what the red line will be. But I think the Cold War deterrence laws, those of mass retaliation and mutually assured destruction, still work.’
Do you think the weakening of Russia's military might could force Putin to the negotiating table?
‘Certainly. More importantly, it could force him to weaken Russian demands and make concessions. The Russians are all making demands on Ukraine and the West even before negotiations can begin. That would be ridiculous: the Russians are not at all in a position to demand concessions from Ukraine in advance. The Russians should make concessions before Ukraine starts talks with Putin.’It is much more likely to get a good deal in a year when Russia is even weaker. A quick deal is not a good deal.You don't notice much of that attitude in the West.
‘The Washington establishment has always been overly lenient with Russia. Even during the Minsk Accords in 2014 and 2015, when the Ukrainians were asked not to escalate and to seek a ceasefire. We imposed concessions on Ukraine beforehand that undermined their sovereignty, and we thought that would prevent a bigger conflict. We see what that has led to.’
What will Trump's arrival in the White House mean for the war?
‘It is too early to say. Anyone who thinks they know what Trump will do is fooling you.’
Still, many assume Putin wants to negotiate once Trump is president.
‘I don't think Putin wants to negotiate seriously. He doesn't want to talk to Zelenskyy. He doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO or the EU. Sorry, but every state has the right to form alliances with other states they choose. If Putin dictates such terms in advance, it is not in the US' interest to accept a paradigm in which some states are not sovereign.’
What would you advise Trump to do?
‘He has built his career on a reputation for making the best deals in the world. It is much more likely that a good deal can be made in a year's time, when Russia is even weaker. A quick deal is not a good deal.’
Wave of Attempted Arson Attacks Hits Russia (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/12/22/wave-of-attempted-arson-attacks-hits-russia-a87421)Russia has seen a wave of attempted arson attacks targeting banks, shopping centers, post offices and government buildings over the last three days, according to media reports. Around 20 separate cases of individuals trying to set off small explosive devices or launching fireworks into buildings have been recorded since Friday, mostly in St. Petersburg, Moscow and the surrounding suburbs, according to the state-run TASS news agency and the independent Fontanka site. Citing an unnamed law enforcement source, TASS reported that the people had been recruited by online fraudsters offering money for the attempted attacks.
Footage from surveillance cameras at some of the sites, shared on social media, appeared to show individuals using their mobile phones to film the fires they tried to set off. Images from the aftermath of one attack showed a destroyed ATM and nearby windows blown out, while another showed a burnt-out police car. Cash machines of state-run banks, shopping centers, post offices, military enlistment offices, police vehicles and other administrative buildings have all been targeted. State lender Sberbank reported a 30% increase in attempted arson attacks over the last week, according to the RIA Novosti state news agency citing the bank's press service. Most of those detained after the attempted attacks were pensioners, TASS reported.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WupRwvJ7sOc
Markus
Jimbuna
12-22-24, 12:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTla7rPqWNo
Jimbuna
12-22-24, 12:17 PM
Lubinets to appeal to UN and Red Cross over the shooting of five Ukrainian prisoners of war by occupiers
The occupiers shot a group of 5 captured Ukrainian soldiers.
This was announced on Telegram channel of the Verkhovna Rada Commissioner for Human Rights Dmytro Lubinets, Censor.NET reports.
He reminds that the 110th Separate Mechanized Brigade named after Lieutenant General Marko Bezruchko has released a video of another crime committed by Russians - the shooting of soldiers who surrendered.
"The video shows how Russian soldiers shot five Ukrainian captured defenders. I will report this fact to the UN and the ICRC. Russian war criminals who shoot Ukrainian prisoners of war must be brought before an international tribunal and face the most severe punishment provided by law!" - the Ombudsman emphasizes.
Earlier, Censor.NET reported that the occupiers had once again shot Ukrainian soldiers who surrendered after being surrounded.
Earlier, Lubinets reported that in 2024 alone, the Nazis shot 109 Ukrainian prisoners of war. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3526453
[SNIP]
MarkusIn his last speech Putin said Russia's central bank specially governor Elvira Nabiullina has only one option left, if it does not comply Putin showed them their window. In his short-man syndrome, god complex, exceptional, glorious tzar said if you care about Russia, don’t joke about eating bark there is your window.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muunhm5O0oQ
Jimbuna
12-22-24, 12:25 PM
Sad but true :)
Skybird
12-22-24, 12:28 PM
Ukraine is so desperate over lacking troop levels that they have ordered air defence specialists to serve as ordinary infantrymen. That sounds like a natural decision. But if you think a second time, thats indeed just - desperate. The longer lasting consequences could impose an extremely high cost on doing so. Its not as if their sky is safe...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/21/ukraine-faces-difficult-decisions-over-acute-shortage-of-frontline-troops
Two sources in air defence units told the Guardian the deficit at the front has become so acute that the general staff has ordered already-depleted air defence units to free up more men to send to the front as infantry.
“It’s reaching a critical level where we can’t be sure that air defence can function properly,” said one of the sources, saying he had been prompted to speak out by a fear that the situation was a risk to Ukraine’s security.
“These people knew how air defence works, some had been trained in the West and had real skills, now they are sent to the front to fight, for which they have no training,” said the source.
Sacrificing specialised training and experience for just anotgher pair of hands holding a mere rifle sounds like no good idea to me.
Jimbuna
12-22-24, 12:31 PM
I wonder if they have any alternative....if needs must.
Both sides do this, there is no other option left both sides are on their last legs in sense of personnel Russia started doing this last year. But the guardian had to make it bigger than it is, Ukraine is reorganizing the army for more than 1 1/2 year but wow a unit for ant-air is to be sent to the fronts wow, so Ukraine has no anti-air on the fronts really pffff.
He said "5%", and if he does not step back from that, that demand is what the Europeans will have to deal with - "or else". The Europeans' deficit in ability and military potential is so huge that it makes sense to demand them to do more to catch up, in %GDP, than the US, which has maintained its military in much more potent shape. Not ideal shape, but still much more potent.
BTW, prodcution capcities can (and must) be boosted. Many in Europe simpyl are too stupid to understand that, however. Either it takes them eons to get started, or they even fail to initiate even this restart. Money spending priorities in Europe are upside down anyway. Time to get the fuzzy dreaming out of it all, and focus on what really is urgent, relevant, important. EU fantasies and ideological fanatism are not part of that, pover-bureaucracy and over-regulation must be drmataiclaly cut back. It s suffocating all and everything like mildew that covers the land.He says Canada will be the 51 state, and he will take the Panama Canal Trump yada yada same as the 5% when you want to broker a deal you start high not low and that is what Trump is good at so no 5% is not what he thinks it will be 3-3,5% is where he can live with. He will be seen as the greatest dealmaker you clearly do not know Mark he and Trump already made the deal 5% is for the bühne.Mark Rutte telling Trump: “Your desk is tiny!” To which the Trump: “I know,” later adding: “I like this guy!”. Mark Rutte can deliver a message that’s as tough as nails but with a velvet smile.
^ In a Danish article on this 5 % issue it was said these five percent was nothing but a fingertips and most likely it would end around 3-3½ %
When it comes to who's going to break down first
All we can do is to watch the times go by
Lets meet again in July then we can see who's left standing.
Markus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld9IhIUDgYA
astvitaliy1982
12-23-24, 02:13 AM
Yaroslava is six years old. She is the only child remaining in the village of Konstantinopolskoye near Kurakhovo. Since 22, the settlement was under the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and only a few families with children remained there. Yaroslava lived in the basement, where she had dolls and cookies. Ukrainian volunteers from the "White Angel" who came to the family with children tried to persuade them to leave. The parents refused - they were afraid of the TCC. Then it turned out that the children were torn from the hands of their mothers and fathers, despite the resistance and children's screams. One family, after thinking for two days, moved to Ukraine after the children who had been taken away. But they were no longer there, they were told - "Look in Poland." The parents went to Poland, where they were told - "Look in Germany." The children have still not been found. This happened to Yaroslava's neighbors.
A classmate of Yaroslava's mother worked in "White Angels", and Natalia was not shaken too much, but when the front began to approach, they came to her again. Natalia screamed - "Try to take her!" The classmate went into the car, pretending that she did not know. In the first days of December, the village was at zero. People hid in the basements. Yaroslava's father reasoned like this - if they go to Ukraine, he will be immediately taken to the TCC, Natalia is a medic, she will be taken too, both will die in the war at once, and Yaroslava will be taken away. And if they endure the shelling, then the Russians will come and take them to Russia, and if everything happens exactly like this, then life will be long and wonderful. You have to endure the long radium of life.
But the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to build dugouts in their gardens. And in the morning of this December, one neighbor went to the toilet and saw sunbeams on the Earth. They guessed that they were torturing people here. Yaroslava's father himself heard wild screams, and, looking out the window, saw the Ukrainian Armed Forces torturing a prisoner, pulling a sinew out of his legs. For three years they had lived under the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and were only afraid of them. Now it began to dawn on those who remained that they should be afraid as they were afraid in hell. Russian soldiers entered the village, but there were few of them. One ran into the house where Yaroslava's family lived. They brought him down and saw him in the basement, but when he saw the child, he froze, somehow scared, and cursed - "Oh, **** ... What is a child doing here?!" Life in the village turned into an endless hell. In the neighboring yard, a Ukrainian soldier who was mocking obstacles was buried in a dugout. Those he was mocking were unable to move his stones or dig him out. "Are you trying to save me? I am an enemy." "But he is a man!" they answered him. – And we are people.” A few days later, he and other soldiers came into his house and shot the four who had saved him. Yaroslava’s parents realized that they had to run.
In the morning, the father with the child in his arms, having calculated the time when drones would not fly for about 40 minutes, went to the edge of the village. Along the way, he gathered other residents. They managed the families. A 73-year-old woman was bringing up the rear. Natalya quickly began to choke and fell behind. The father and Yaroslava did not run 70 meters to the dugout, birds flew and a return mortar attack began. Natalya fell and, twisting her neck, looked in the direction where her husband had driven her with the child in his arms. She did not see how he threw the girl into the dugout. Ten minutes later, Natalya got up and walked. A drone was hanging over her head. The drones were dropping the surrounding space over the old refugees. Baba Yaga appeared. One neighbor lay down on the ground and before the Ceremony from a heart attack, told the children to leave without him. At the dugout, Natalya saw only her husband and screamed - "Where is Yaroslava?!" The Russian soldiers saw the girl-jacket, but she did not see her. Having waited, they went on. Natalya fell behind again, she saw how the drone with the drop flew up to her husband and child. The soldiers accompanying them shouted - "Electronic warfare! Turn on the EW!" The father ran, and in his head the thought was running - "Killing the little one is sweet honey for them." The drone flew after him. He let go of his daughter and said - "Did you want to see the sea?" "Yes." "Run today! It is there." The drop fell 150 meters from Yaroslava - they managed to turn on the EW. The soldiers carried the girl away. Ey gave her cookies, tea. The villagers ran 12 km that day. They have already been delivered to the temporary accommodation point of the Donetsk People's Republic, and I have just visited them. All this was on December 18, four days ago, when we were living our lives.
Jimbuna
12-23-24, 07:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d72Io8t6rQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh1AplrJzDg
Jimbuna
12-23-24, 01:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZQ7ZtRldvw
Watch the video as an action clip-'cause it's not going to happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz7LXuj3Fz4
Edit
Hope his plane will end the war, for the Ukrainian and the Russian people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s31Gr6_82Fo
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Markus
Jimbuna
12-24-24, 06:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6DS3GGGSWw
Jimbuna
12-24-24, 06:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKUq4QRhWUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgWwPrFR8-g
Catfish
12-24-24, 04:09 PM
@astvitaly1982
No thanks for your propaganda.
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"Merry Christmas"
May Ukraine win.
If NK and Iran can send hundred of thousands ammo, weapons and boots on the ground. Why can't we do the same ? Posting thousands and thousand of ammo and weapons to Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVU6fdTVD28
Markus
Skybird
12-25-24, 12:24 PM
Three reasons why the balance is shifting faster and faster in favour of Russia.
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise/nach-ueber-1000-tagen-krieg-drei-gruende-zeigen-warum-die-abwehrfront-der-ukraine-immer-schneller-broeckelt_id_260588804.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
The tactical level of both sides is becoming more and more similar, and the situation with regard to the railway-based supply routes is developing in Russia's favor. Both of these factors mean that Russia's numerical superiority in men and material is becoming increasingly effective - while Ukraine is unable to build and maintain operational reserve anymore.
In regard to the Russian railway-based supply routes that Russia can not pay wages to maintain the already short on workers they strike at mass because they got not paid for at least a half year and Russia not has the engines to transport that get derailed or blown up by Russian partisans. Equipment production of armour is refurbishing in majority small percentage is new and their artillery barrels, equipment and shells Russia depends for about 60% on North Korea. How superb! Wow, so great. Not!
That Russian air defences that shot down the Baku-Grozny Azerbaijan Airliner was certainly proof of Russian superiority also? I guess the bird strike involved birds with guns, eh?
https://i.ibb.co/MCHFrrf/Baza.jpg (https://ibb.co/mcKfkk0)
That is the media copy past Russian TASS and German media is on short leash of them. The Embraer 190 that crashed near Aktau shows fuselage markings resembling shrapnel or missile fragments, raising speculation about an air defence strike. A survivor reported a mid-air explosion, though Russian authorities initially cited a bird strike.
Catfish
12-25-24, 01:04 PM
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Both of these factors mean that Russia's numerical superiority in men and material is becoming increasingly effective - while Ukraine is unable to build and maintain operational reserve anymore.
Russia has enough own cannon fodder, it is just that coward Putin does not dare to pull numbers out of St. Petersburg and Moscow because he will be toast instantly. So he has to borrow soldiers just of all from North Korea lmao.
Solution? NATO BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN UKRAINE.
If Putin wants this he can have it.
Otherwise we can fight this war personally in 5-10 years.
Russia has enough own cannon fodder, it is just that coward Putin does not dare to pull numbers out of St. Petersburg and Moscow, but has to lend soldiers just of all from North Koera lmao.
Solution? NATO BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN UKRAINE.
If Putin wants this he can have it.
Otherwise we can fight this war personally in 5-10 years.Russia is man enough to kill them all themselves they maybe many but sure not superior and certainly will not gain strategical Russia has none of the 23 key Ukraine cities or gained anything nearer to their goals. Ukraine can build reserves, Russia is destroying his reserves on the moment what will be left is inferior, let Ukraine hold on longer and Russia will fail eventually like Zelenskyy said the biggest problem is not manpower but the dripping equipment support.
It's good we hand them advance weapon system, like the one described in this video-However from what I have learned is that Ukraine lack ammo and boots on the ground.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67zqHSAFaBw
Markus
Remember all those analyst say Ukraine does have enough to fly the F-16 here are the 2000-5F pilots! Next the Gripen?On Wednesday, December 25, it was reported that Ukrainian pilots and mechanics finished their six-month training on French Mirage 2000-5F fighters. In October, French Defence Minister Sébastien Lecornu stated that Ukraine would receive Mirage 2000 fighters in the first half of 2025, equipped with new systems. Later reports indicated that the first three Mirage 2000-5 jets would be delivered to Ukraine in the first quarter of 2025. https://global.espreso.tv/world-news-ukrainian-pilots-complete-training-on-mirage-2000-5f-fighters
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