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mapuc
09-25-24, 02:42 PM
Pay him no mind Markus, Denmark does it's part and more.


I know, I could however not let it stay unanswered.
If you compare the number of citizens in his and my country I would say the Danes pay a few bucks more than his countries Americans does.

And there will come more military aid from Denmark in the future.
Even USA will, until the election, send military aid to Ukraine-How it's gonna look after the election no one knows.

Markus

mapuc
09-25-24, 03:18 PM
It is reported that Wuhledar is about to fall. Even Ukrainian sources indicate there is not much more that can be done. Psychologically a huge defeat for Ukraine, the city became a symbol of resistence. Troop morale will suffer a hit.

It looks like Vuhledar is about to fall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iz-TMcGF3Y

Markus

Skybird
09-25-24, 03:31 PM
Valid Points.

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise/ralph-d-thiele-im-interview-schroeder_id_260337701.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


And that video on that poll that 50% of Russians claimed to wish for Russia loosing the wall - I dont believe that, the answer to why the results arfe like this must be in badly maintained methodology. I stick to my earlier and repeated statements that Putin is believed by most, by the very big majority in Russia, because his narrative is believed in, and it is shared, and because they crave the imagined Sovjet "glory" of the past and they do not have too much access to "news" that is not coming from the Kremlin. I think the war was not much wanted in the beginnignm but oince it started in full, I expect that an attitude took over that could be described as "now we got ourselves into this mess, we must now do all what is possible to at least win it."

Dargo
09-25-24, 04:59 PM
Russia modifies Shahed drones with Starlink antennasUkrainian forces have reportedly destroyed a Russian Shahed-136 long-range attack drone equipped with a Starlink satellite communication terminal. The terminal is believed to provide a stable satellite communication link for the transmission of data, such as photos, videos, and telemetry information, potentially enhancing the drone’s effectiveness in reconnaissance and strike missions. The discovery, first reported by Ukrainian military sources, raises questions about Russia’s use of commercial satellite technology to improve the operational flexibility of its unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). One possible application of the Starlink-equipped drone is to enable real-time control of the Shahed UAV during reconnaissance missions. This would allow operators to adjust their targeting based on live intelligence gathered in proximity to the objective... https://defence-blog.com/russia-modifies-shahed-drones-with-starlink-antennas/

mapuc
09-25-24, 05:05 PM
We are gonna see a lot of technical progress and perhaps development of new weapon system and we are going to see weapons getting obsolete.

Markus

Dargo
09-25-24, 05:18 PM
We are gonna see a lot of technical progress and perhaps development of new weapon system and we are going to see weapons getting obsolete.

MarkusWeapons getting obsolete not the gun artillery is centuries old and like the tank will not disappear in future wars. If it can kill efficiently cheap it will be used no matter how old.

mapuc
09-25-24, 05:38 PM
I'm divided-In some cases I would prefer Trump to win and in other cases I preferred him to lose. This is one of the reasons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsYrBL72SwA

Markus

Dargo
09-26-24, 06:17 AM
The fall of Vukhledar would be a sensitive loss for Ukraine, but it is unlikely to lead to a major Russian breakthrough. The symbolic value of Vukhledar, where Ukraine has held out for over two years, far outweighs its strategic value! Vukhledar does not play a major role in Ukrainian logistics, so its impact on the defence of the rest of the province is limited. Also, the area north of the city lends itself poorly to a rapid Russian advance. The terrain consists mainly of unsheltered arable land, with no cover from trees or buildings. Moreover, in the autumn months, the ground will become muddier, making it difficult to deploy heavy equipment such as tanks and armoured vehicles.

The Ukrainian army unit defending the city has been on the front line for more than a year without a break and is exhausted. The Ukrainians are also struggling with ammunition shortages. In addition, Ukrainians in Vukhledar suffer from the constant threat of Russian aerial bombs. Since this spring, Russia has been shelling cities along the front line with glide bombs. Voehledar also suffered the city no longer exists, it has been completely razed to the ground again.

mapuc
09-26-24, 06:48 AM
I'm a little sceptic to these reports on Russian economy and the expert who tell us they are going to collapse economically

Russia’s finite resources, strained by inflation, labor shortages, dwindling stockpiles, and sanctions, make it difficult to sustain its war effort beyond 2025-2026, as per military analyst Anders Puck Nielsen

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/09/25/russia-doesnt-have-endless-resources-its-economy-nearing-tipping-point-expert-says/

Markus

mapuc
09-26-24, 10:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGoVEMJNeoY

Markus

Dargo
09-26-24, 02:22 PM
I'm a little sceptic to these reports on Russian economy and the expert who tell us they are going to collapse economically



https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/09/25/russia-doesnt-have-endless-resources-its-economy-nearing-tipping-point-expert-says/

MarkusAll those factors are based on facts (own public Russian figures) and in general hurt the Russian economy. For example, inflation is sky-high so the central bank raise the interest rate to cool the economy to lower inflation resulting in a sky-high interest rate because the State (Putin) pumps huge sums of money in the economy for the war production with the only result that the economy overheats therefore inflation rises. The Russian economy is in a loop running ever faster to a disaster, when it happens is hard to tell, but it will happen soon. Russian economy is small and on a Chinese infuse this can not go on for years.

mapuc
09-26-24, 03:26 PM
All those factors are based on facts (own public Russian figures) and in general hurt the Russian economy. For example, inflation is sky-high so the central bank raise the interest rate to cool the economy to lower inflation resulting in a sky-high interest rate because the State (Putin) pumps huge sums of money in the economy for the war production with the only result that the economy overheats therefore inflation rises. The Russian economy is in a loop running ever faster to a disaster, when it happens is hard to tell, but it will happen soon. Russian economy is small and on a Chinese infuse this can not go on for years.

So we can expect an economical crash in Russia within the next 2-3 years from now.

What comes first-The lack of material and troops or economical crash ?

Markus

mapuc
09-26-24, 03:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmGclRWZW0

Markus

Skybird
09-26-24, 03:52 PM
^ At first glance I red "The WHO shoots first". :D

Dargo
09-26-24, 03:53 PM
So we can expect an economical crash in Russia within the next 2-3 years from now.

What comes first-The lack of material and troops or economical crash ?

MarkusI think when they reach the end of their refurbish production, they gone need so many resources chains will break for some material they already out of stock. Or when the cycle of pumping money in and heating up the economy too much that the central bank losses control think this is nearer than we think.

mapuc
09-27-24, 02:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf5Fh7GWwdg

Markus

mapuc
09-27-24, 04:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2BIBopfnqg

Markus

Dargo
09-28-24, 07:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PfVvxn8hZQ

mapuc
09-28-24, 09:13 AM
Sometimes it is better to take a step or two back to reorganize the troops and to get a overview of the battlefield.

This has to be supported of course by fighter jets, artillery and tanks.

Next how important is Vuhledar for the Ukrainians ? How important is this town for the Russians ?

It will be a psychological setback for the Ukrainians no doubt about it and for the Russian it will be a psychological boost, despite having lost thousands of men.

Markus

Dargo
09-28-24, 11:56 AM
Sometimes it is better to take a step or two back to reorganize the troops and to get a overview of the battlefield.

This has to be supported of course by fighter jets, artillery and tanks.

Next how important is Vuhledar for the Ukrainians ? How important is this town for the Russians ?

It will be a psychological setback for the Ukrainians no doubt about it and for the Russian it will be a psychological boost, despite having lost thousands of men.

MarkusThe fall of Vukhledar would be a sensitive loss for Ukraine, but it is unlikely to lead to a major Russian breakthrough. The symbolic value of Vukhledar, where Ukraine has held out for over two years, far outweighs its strategic value! Vukhledar does not play a major role in Ukrainian logistics, so its impact on the defence of the rest of the province is limited. Importance for Russia is same symbolic for inner Russian propaganda reasons but claiming victory over a pile of rubble means nothing and strategical it means nothing. Russian loses vs terrain gain is still at a huge cost.

Dargo
09-28-24, 12:02 PM
India will not buy from Russia's sanctioned Arctic LNG 2 project, oil secretary saysIndia will not buy liquefied natural gas (LNG) produced from Russia's Arctic LNG 2 project, which is sanctioned by Western countries, Oil Secretary Pankaj Jain said on Friday."We will not buy (supply from) Arctic LNG 2. We are not buying any sanctioned commodity. Something which has broad-based sanctions, we are not touching it," Jain told reporters.The Arctic LNG 2 project by Russia's Novatek (NVTK.MM (https://www.reuters.com/markets/companies/NVTK.MM)), is subject to Western sanctions over Russia's war with Ukraine. The United States has also imposed sanctions on hundreds of entities and individuals for supporting Russia's war effort, including companies supporting the development of Arctic LNG 2 project and its shipment of LNG. Novatek has said media allegations the company was involved in establishing and managing a "shadow fleet" for the Arctic LNG 2 project were untrue. https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-will-not-buy-russias-sanctioned-arctic-lng-2-project-oil-secretary-says-2024-09-27/

Dargo
09-28-24, 12:43 PM
EU countries start refusing Swiss weaponsMost European countries have begun to refuse weapons manufactured by Swiss companies. This was reported by Swissinfo (https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/foreign-affairs/european-nations-snub-swiss-made-weapons-over-ukraine-restrictions/87599015). This step is primarily due to the ban on the re-export of weapons to Ukraine, which is causing outrage among many European users of Swiss weapons. Germany, which has the closest ties with the defense industry and Swiss-made products among all European countries, is the most dissatisfied.

As a result, the German Ministry of Defense decided to exclude Swiss companies from some defense tenders. This caused outrage due to what some consider to be disrespect for Switzerland’s legal decision to be neutral. Currently, Germany does not consider Switzerland a reliable partner, as the country has banned the supply of certain weapons, fearing that Germany may re-export them to Ukraine. In addition to Germany, in 2023, the Netherlands completely abandoned the purchase of Swiss weapons after Switzerland blocked the export of 96 Leopard 1 tanks stored in Italy. The Netherlands planned to repair the tanks in Germany and then send them to Ukraine... https://mil.in.ua/en/news/eu-countries-start-refusing-swiss-weapons/

Dargo
09-28-24, 12:52 PM
...
The Russian milblogger community has recently been highlighting numerous cases where skilled and specialized troops have been sent to the front in order to maintain the levels of men required to keep up pressure at the front.

Russian milblogger Roman Alekhine has described incidents in which Russian special forces officers, Aerospace Forces, and even sailors were being used to storm Ukrainian positions.

"Oh, yes, and rocket scientists too," he claimed in a post on his Telegram channel.

"And if… they died in vain then it depends on us — bloggers, military correspondents, journalists… to convey to the Defense Ministry and the Supreme Council the information about systemic problems at the front."

Ukraine's military has also noted a recent increase in specialist Russian troops taking part in infantry assaults.

Speaking to Espresso TV on Sept. 5, a commander with the 60th Brigade's 97th Battalion said waves of repelled assaults using "young and inexperienced soldiers" in the Lyman sector had led to large losses for Russian forces.

"New reinforcements have not yet arrived, so the enemy is forced to use trained and well-equipped special forces units for assaults," he added.

The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) also reported on the trend on Sept. 24, saying the "systematic misuse of Russian specialists… indicates that Russia is struggling to meet the manpower demands of its war in Ukraine."... https://kyivindependent.com/as-russian-losses-in-ukraine-surge-some-military-bloggers-turn-on-kremlin-military-command/

Dargo
09-28-24, 01:06 PM
The key rate of the Bank of Russia may exceed the maximum level for the "new era" of 20%, believes the first deputy chairman of the VTB board Dmitry Pianov (VTB Bank is a Russian majority state-owned bank). He mentioned the number 23%https://www.interfax.ru/business/983987
https://i.postimg.cc/MphdqZW0/interfaxru.jpg

Russia has to pay contract soldiers more because they're getting harder to recruit.
So, state-owned and private enterprises have to pay more to retain and hire workers from a shrinking pool, raising inflation.
So, the Ministry of Defence has to raise bonuses and pay again to maintain recruiting goals and compete with businesses.
And they can hit their goals as rising interest rates and inflation push more Russians into a hopeless debt spiral.
Which causes the worker shortage to worsen.
Which forces state-owned and private enterprises to raise their wages even more.
Which increases inflation even more.
Which pushes more Russians into debt.
So, the Ministry of Defence has to raise bonuses and pay to compete with businesses.
It's a trap! 1 Euro equals 105,26 Russian Ruble just saying. The ruble is a dead currency, so toxic even the Chinese won't touch it.

mapuc
09-28-24, 01:28 PM
It's not looking good for the Russian economy, it seems.

It's not looking good for the Russian war machinery

It's not looking good for the Russian warfare

All this doesn't matter. They gain grown each day and this is what counts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BoNJ8JBr2Y

Markus

Dargo
09-28-24, 02:00 PM
It's not looking good for the Russian economy, it seems.

It's not looking good for the Russian war machinery

It's not looking good for the Russian warfare

All this doesn't matter. They gain grown each day and this is what counts

[SNIP]

MarkusThe gains will not make up for the economical, military destruction of your own country oh whoopy you have gained a pile of rubble what a great victory parade in rags that will give you for decades the moment the war production stops Russia descents into an economical sinkhole. Russia has nothing to rob from its gains, it has destroyed. Ukraine will still exist after this sitting on a hug pond of oil, other resources the investors will not allow their investment go lost Ukraine will grow bigger than Russia after this war whatever the outcome is.

mapuc
09-28-24, 02:21 PM
The gains will not make up for the economical, military destruction of your own country oh whoopy you have gained a pile of rubble what a great victory parade in rags that will give you for decades. Ukraine will still exist after this sitting on a hug pond of oil, other resources the investors will not allow their investment go lost Ukraine will grow bigger than Russia after this war whatever the outcome is.

You hit the head on the nail. Ukrainian underground resources such as oil, made me wonder:
Is the West only helping Ukraine due to these facts or would the military and economical aid have been send anyway ?

Could this also be the Reason Russia invaded Ukraine ? If so why ? They have lots of gas and oil them self in the underground

Markus

Dargo
09-28-24, 02:26 PM
You hit the head on the nail. Ukrainian underground resources such as oil, made me wonder:
Is the West only helping Ukraine due to these facts or would the military and economical aid have been send anyway ?

Could this also be the Reason Russia invaded Ukraine ? If so why ? They have lots of gas and oil them self in the underground

MarkusRussia has gas and oil sure but without the West they can not get it to the surface this is all done in the past by western companies every equipment is western made. For Ukraine uhm,.. basically yes that is one of the main reasons how harsh it sounds, that is how the world works. Look at Belarus, we could have really helped, but the profits were not in it.

mapuc
09-28-24, 02:46 PM
Would not come as a surprise if it happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO_eNy7t4r4

Markus

mapuc
09-28-24, 03:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQjQd-L7oXE

Markus

Skybird
09-28-24, 03:55 PM
[Frankfurter Rundschau] According to British figures, Russian casualties in the war in Ukraine have reached new highs. However, Kiev is also having to cope with heavy losses among its soldiers in the struggle with the Moscow regime under Vladimir Putin. According to a report, this is particularly true for young recruits in the defense against the attack by Russia, which violates international law.

The American Financial Times (FT) reported on this at the end of September. What is explosive about this is that the information comes from the Ukrainian army. And not from official sources in the Ukrainian government or general staff. According to the newspaper, journalists spoke to around a dozen Ukrainian commanders and officers.

According to the report, they told of poorly trained and sometimes fearful recruits. As the Moscow Times writes, Kiev is currently drafting an average of around 30,000 new recruits into the Ukrainian war every month, mostly young men without any combat experience, as a result of the new conscription law, which has been in force since May.

“Some of them simply freeze because they are afraid to shoot at the enemy. They are sent back in sacks or seriously wounded,” the commander of a unit fighting in the Donetsk region told the FT.

According to estimates by commanders spoken to by the American newspaper, 50 to 70 percent of recruits are killed or wounded in the first few days after reaching the front. “When they reach their positions, many run away at the first shell explosion,” explained the deputy commander of a unit of the 72nd Mechanized Brigade.

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And Zelensky's “victory plan”? Old wine in used wineskins. In particular, he demands the lifting of the range limit for Western weapons on Russian soil, and membership in NATO. He won't get the former for a long time (if ever), and the latter not at all.

That's it for the “victory plan”.

Next comes the winter play. It will chew up Ukraine and spit it out like a piece of chewing gum, even worse than in previous years. More than 80% of Ukraine's heating and electricity supply grid is gone. Not "under repair", but "gone".

mapuc
09-28-24, 04:37 PM
Only a naive person thinks it's only the Russians who is suffering from high losses-Even Ukraine is suffering from high losses-However I don't believe them to be as high as the Russians.

A hospital in the town of Sumy have been hit by drones killing 9

Only cowards go after civilians

Markus

Dargo
09-28-24, 05:07 PM
Only a naive person thinks it's only the Russians who is suffering from high losses-Even Ukraine is suffering from high losses-However I don't believe them to be as high as the Russians.

A hospital in the town of Sumy have been hit by drones killing 9

Only cowards go after civilians

MarkusThis was a double attack this is how the Russians operate after strike one aid workers rush to the attacked area than Russia strikes again to finish off aid workers as bonus. In Kherson region only, 10-20 wounded and 2-3 killed daily, on the average often more than that. Hospitals and public transportation are targeted, first responders are hit on arrival. Preying on the Innocent: Drone Pilots Circle like Vultures Over Kherson’s Most Vulnerable (https://tochnyi.info/2024/09/preying-on-the-innocent-drone-pilots-circle-like-vultures-over-khersons-most-vulnerable/)

Reece
09-29-24, 06:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjMDzp-_P8Y

Rockstar
09-29-24, 08:09 AM
Only a naive person thinks it's only the Russians who is suffering from high losses-Even Ukraine is suffering from high losses-However I don't believe them to be as high as the Russians.


It’s a war of attrition all that matters is the ability to replace loses and in that regard Russia holds the upper hand.

mapuc
09-29-24, 09:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT2OBbO5u6c

Markus

mapuc
09-29-24, 01:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyuBX2swzRo

Markus

mapuc
09-30-24, 05:50 AM
A political defeat
There is much to lose by having a deadline that is not met.

- Putin is losing face in this situation. He already did that after the invasion on 6 August.

- The situation just shows that the Russian defense has a lot of problems. It is in many ways a political defeat for Putin


https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/krigogkatastrofer/deadline-udloeber-putin-taber-ansigt/10386489?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

Skybird
09-30-24, 07:26 AM
Define "political defeat for Putin", in what way does it threaten him, limit his grip on Russia, stops the war, i creases chances for populaiton upraise of riots or reigme change by inner rebellion, denies Russia its wanted war loot and prey?

Taking words as victories is for the loosers.

Three years almost, and Western commentators still try to enforce Russia's defeat and Putin's fall by their wishful writings.

Slogans of perseverance. Empty. Stale. Meaningless. And very tiring.

Maybe - maybe - there will be Russian defeat at the long end, but writing and wishing will not be the cause for that.

Russia has not even needed to order general mobilization. Despite their desastrous losses, they currently still raise sufficient new troops by offering lucrative contracts to foreign volunteers and mercenaries. Ukraine on the other hand - they have much bigger problems with finding new entries into their forces. The losses amongst their recruits are horrifying, probably not less than amongst Russian young recruits.

Hadn't it been reported recently that the Americans had given up their resistance to range limitations for their weapons to be used in Russia? Well, we learned better since then, didn't we? And Bubble-Olaf? Also has not changed one bit.

mapuc
09-30-24, 10:01 AM
Define "political defeat for Putin", in what way does it threaten him, limit his grip on Russia, stops the war, i creases chances for populaiton upraise of riots or reigme change by inner rebellion, denies Russia its wanted war loot and prey?

Taking words as victories is for the loosers.

Three years almost, and Western commentators still try to enforce Russia's defeat and Putin's fall by their wishful writings.

Slogans of perseverance. Empty. Stale. Meaningless. And very tiring.

Maybe - maybe - there will be Russian defeat at the long end, but writing and wishing will not be the cause for that.

Russia has not even needed to order general mobilization. Despite their desastrous losses, they currently still raise sufficient new troops by offering lucrative contracts to foreign volunteers and mercenaries. Ukraine on the other hand - they have much bigger problems with finding new entries into their forces. The losses amongst their recruits are horrifying, probably not less than amongst Russian young recruits.

Hadn't it been reported recently that the Americans had given up their resistance to range limitations for their weapons to be used in Russia? Well, we learned better since then, didn't we? And Bubble-Olaf? Also has not changed one bit.

I think they mean in the sentence that he could not fulfill his promise to have thrown Ukraine out of Kursk before Oktober 1st- In this he should have lost face, a defeat.
You're right Russia is far from defeated. They have huge problems nevertheless as mentioned in the article.
Russia can't keep up with this volunteers stuff not with this massive losses.

Even when it comes to material they would soon run into problems.
Estimated 1000 tanks is being destroyed or damage beyond repair per year in the war and Russia can only produce 6-700 new tanks per year.

As said before I think the Russian economy will crash in the next 2 - 3 years from now.

What is known is: They lack manpower to their factories and for each volunteers to the war means one lesser to operate the machine or produce stuff.

I've heard that NK will send thousand of volunteers to Russia and the war in Ukraine. Someone wrote that these North Korean would be placed in factories as workers and not in the war.

Markus

mapuc
09-30-24, 02:24 PM
Yep the only thing Putin have done so far is to bark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LzisygCML0

Markus

Dargo
09-30-24, 05:21 PM
Due to the pressure of sanctions, the leading Russian LNG producer NOVATEK is looking for alternative ways to monetize its gas reserves. While further development of the Murmansk LNG and Ob LNG has not been suspended, active work is not ongoing. It is not certain when NOVATEK will continue their development, as currently the company is focused on completing the Arctic LNG-2 project and start shipments from it. However, NOVATEK expects that all of their future LNG projects will be under sanctions. Murmansk LNG which has three lines was expected to have a capacity of 6.8 million tons per line and Ob LNG had a total capacity of 6 million tons. These were to be the next 2 projects of NOVATEK after Arctic LNG-2. A binding investment decision was expected for both in 2024.

The Ob Gaz Chemical Complex is going to be redesigned to not use European equipment. On June 24th the EU banned new investments as well as the provision of goods, technologies and services needed to complete the Murmansk LNG and Ob LNG. Arctic LNG-2 due to sanctions can't ship LNG. There, the company plans to postpone the launch of the third line from 2026 to 2028. Murmansk LNG thus is the company's most promising project, especially in the face of sanctions. The location in the ice free port of Murmansk negated the need for special LNG tankers of type Arc7, and LNG can be exported by conventional LNG carriers. Also, the extra power from the Kola Nuclear Power Plant allows using electric drives and not foreign gas turbines.

The implementation of the project was for 2027-2029. Until recently, NOVATEK was actively engaged in the development of the project and had been cleared for the export of LNG. However, there is still uncertainty over the 1,300-kilometer Volkhov-Murmansk-Belokamenka gas pipeline. This has to be built to supply gas to Murmansk LNG and NOVATEK is cleared to build a 41 billion cubic meter pipeline which will supply 30 billion cubic meters to the LNG site and 10 billion to gasify Murmansk and Karelia. But now the work on the pipeline has been suspended. In March 2024 the director of the gas industry development department of the Ministry of Energy said that work on the pipeline was already underway. In 2023, Gazprom began designing the Murmansk-Volkhov gas pipeline, tentatively estimating its cost at 350 billion rubles.

Possibly the most sensitive sanctions for Russia for 2024 is the inclusion of the Chinese company Penglai Jutal Offshore Engineering. It was the first of the Chinese manufacturers of modules for the Arctic LNG-2 process lines to fall under sanction, and other Chinese companies then refused to supply equipment. However, the contracting equipment does not seem to be an insurmountable obstacle, but it is necessary to make sure that the counterparty does not then fall under US sanctions. The Ob Gas Chemical Complex may now become a priority. NOVATEK is now considering the possibility of producing ammonia at the Sabetta site, but without CCS, as well as urea for export along the Northern Sea Route to the Asia-Pacific countries. Ru mineral fertilizers have so far been removed from sanctions as they are vital products. Based on the declared capacity of Ob LNG, the maximum ammonia capacity of the plant could be 8 million tons. If urea is further produced from ammonia, then its export along the Northern Sea Route will also be a much easier task compared to the transportation of LNG. https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/7179952

Catfish
10-01-24, 06:37 AM
FSB at it again..

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/commander-of-the-russian-aerospace-forces-communications-center-commits-suicide/

Skybird
10-01-24, 08:10 AM
FSB at it again..

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/commander-of-the-russian-aerospace-forces-communications-center-commits-suicide/


On that photo that window does not seem to be so high at all... :hmmm:


:D

mapuc
10-01-24, 10:25 AM
Aleksey Kolomeitsev, a Russian colonel who trained specialists in the use of attack drones, was killed in the city of Kolomna in Moscow Oblast, Ukraine's military intelligence (HUR) reported on Sept. 28.

https://kyivindependent.com/russian-colonel-killed-near-moscow-military-intelligence-says/

Markus

mapuc
10-01-24, 11:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-LqrocMpm4

Markus

Skybird
10-01-24, 02:24 PM
Media report Russian troops stand in the city centre of Vuhledar.

mapuc
10-01-24, 02:47 PM
^ Maybe you should post it in your own Israel-thread. Think it fit better there.

Markus

Dargo
10-01-24, 03:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkwP727sAxg

Skybird
10-01-24, 03:08 PM
^ Maybe you should post it in your own Israel-thread. Think it fit better there.

Markus


You are right, I mixed up the threads by mistake. Corrected.

mapuc
10-01-24, 03:16 PM
You are right, I mixed up the threads by mistake. Corrected.

We all make mistakes

Back to the discussion of this thread

Like this would happen...Like.....not a chance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsL9roMexnE

Markus

mapuc
10-02-24, 10:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QtQpkxpgzo

Markus

Skybird
10-02-24, 04:04 PM
Vuhledar is south of Pokrovsk, both cities are very important neighbouring bullwarks in the last defence line of Ukraine. What is more relevant is that Ukraine has lost a basis from where it could shell and almost interdict Russian supply lines from Russia to the southern front, Russia had to send these via a time-consuming longer route over Crimea. Russia now can use the shorter routes, they are beyond range of Ukrainian artillery.
Also, Ukraine'S own supply lines in the region have severly suffered. So, the change of ownership of the ruins of the city is the one's loss, the other's gain.
Of course, Ukraine-friendly media outputs want to let it appear as nothign too important. But I think it is.


Its also a big blast to Ukraine moral, the city was defended bitterly and for very long time, it was a symbol that the Russians now have shattered. That will leave effects in Ukrainian morale.



I predict the Russian move on Pokrovsk, having slowed down in recent few weeks but never having stopped, will gain new momentum now. The Russians can now easier flank it in their attenpt to encircle it.


With he current going, I expect Pokrovsk to fall, too, though maybe not immediately. It remains to be seen which side will be more severly affected by winter.

mapuc
10-02-24, 04:39 PM
Of course Vuhledar was a strategic important for both part and it must be a huge setback for the Ukrainians losing this town.

Losing up to 1.500.000 men before the war is over, is what Russia could be facing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3rwf5mAzs0

Markus

mapuc
10-02-24, 05:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujQxrpelf44

Markus

Gorpet
10-02-24, 11:49 PM
These 60bn was only a one-time payment and if you compare on how many citizens who live in USA and in Denmark, you will see that the Danes pay as much as the American do, if not more.

There are around 6 million Danes and there is around 333 million Americans.

Markus

That's a good thing. For your country of 6 million? I feel good that as an American.Even though we have never met i respect that you and your country for Defending my country and Democracy. We do need your country to absorb as many Russian missiles as your country can accept. And we will never forget you.You are a great NATO member who stood for the One World Order.And contributed the best minds your country had to offer.For Democracy the most Intelligent Congregation of minds,Unfortunately for you the Intelligent Congregation of minds in Washington D.C. reside in Bars, bathrooms and private cubby holes with couches .Any way thanks for joining NATO.The Danes we can count on to be first to get smacked in the face. And we don't have to worry about any migrants. Welcome to the frontline.

Jimbuna
10-03-24, 07:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JC6BWuSQFE

Dargo
10-03-24, 08:23 AM
Russia To Accept Mandarins Instead of Money Amid Payment Difficulties What is the Mandarin Republic doing?

Russian companies have established a barter trade system with Pakistan to facilitate economic exchanges without the need for monetary transactions, as they seek to overcome challenges with payments related to Western sanctions on Moscow.

The alternative trade arrangement was signed at the first Pakistan-Russia Trade and Investment Forum in Moscow. According to the Russian state media outlet TASS, the first Russian company to use the mechanism will be Astarta-Agrotrading, which will supply Pakistan with chickpeas and lentils. Pakistan’s Meskay + Femtee Trading Company will reciprocate by providing mandarins and rice.

Under the terms of the agreement, Russia will export 20,000 tons of chickpeas, while Pakistan will supply an equivalent amount of rice. Another contract stipulates that Russia will send 15,000 tons of chickpeas and 10,000 tons of lentils in exchange for 15,000 tons of mandarins and 10,000 tons of potatoes.

According to Nasir Hamid, Pakistan's deputy commerce minister, the barter system was created due to “difficulties with mutual payments."... https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/10/02/russia-to-accept-mandarins-instead-of-money-amid-payment-difficulties-a86543

Jimbuna
10-03-24, 12:49 PM
Russia-Ukraine war: Frontline update as of October 2

As of 10:00 p.m. (Kyiv time) on October 2, there have been 118 combat engagements along the front line throughout the day. Ukrainian defenders continue to repel Russian attempts to advance deeper into Ukrainian territory decisively, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Enemy shelling

Today, Russian forces launched 51 airstrikes across Ukraine, dropping 92 guided bombs. In addition, Russians deployed 508 kamikaze drones and conducted over 3,355 shelling attacks on Ukrainian military positions and civilian areas.

Frontline situation

In the Kharkiv direction, Russian troops attacked defensive positions near Vovchansk and Tykhyi twice.

In the Kupiansk direction, Russian troops launched 14 offensive assaults in Synkivka, Andriivka, Pishchane, and Stelmakhivka. Ukrainian defenders repelled ten attacks, and four battles are ongoing.

In the Lyman direction, Russian troops launched 14 attacks on Ukrainian positions near Hrekivka, Nevske, Novosadove, Makiivka, and Torske. Two battles are still underway.

In the Siversk direction, Russian troops did not conduct any offensive actions today.

In the Kramatorsk direction, three engagements were recorded near Ivanivske, Kalynivka, and Bila Hora, all successfully repelled by Ukrainian defenders.

In the Toretsk direction, Russian troops launched 20 attacks on defensive positions near Diliivka, Toretsk, Nelipivka, and Shcherbynivka, with most of the attacks focused on Toretsk. Ukrainian forces stopped 16 of the assaults, and four battles are still ongoing.

In the Pokrovsk direction, since the start of the day, Russian troops attempted 29 times to breach Ukrainian defenses near Vozdvyzhenka, Novotoretske, Zelene Pole, Myroliubivka, Mykolaivka, Krutyi Yar, Krasnyi Yar, Novohrodivka, and Selydove. All Russian attacks were repelled.

"The enemy is suffering significant losses — over 250 Russian troops were neutralized today in this direction, with 99 confirmed killed. Additionally, an armored personnel carrier, four guns, one electronic warfare station, and five vehicles were destroyed. One gun and one multipurpose tracked vehicle were also damaged," the report stated.

In the Kurakhove direction, Russian troops were also active, launching 17 attacks on our positions near Tsukuryne, Heorhiivka, Kurakhove, Kostiantynivka, Zhelanne Druhe, and Katerynivka. According to updated information, six battles are ongoing.

In the Vremivka direction, Russian troops launched assaults near Bohoyavlenka, suffering failures in three engagements, with one battle continuing.

In the Orikhiv direction, one Russian attempt to advance toward our positions near Kamianske is ongoing.

In the Prydniprovskyi direction, Russian forces did not conduct offensive operations.

The situation in other directions remains largely unchanged.

"Today, it is worth commending the soldiers of the 46th Separate Airmobile Brigade, the 79th Separate Tavrian Air Assault Brigade, the 14th Operational Brigade named after Ivan Bohun of the National Guard of Ukraine, who are effectively destroying the enemy, inflicting heavy losses on both personnel and equipment. Additionally, the 35th Separate Marine Brigade named after Rear Admiral Mykhailo Ostrogradskyi and the 102nd Separate Territorial Defense Brigade named after Colonel Dmytro Vitovsky are not falling behind in this endeavor," the General Staff summarized.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-ukraine-war-frontline-update-as-of-october-2/ar-AA1rBZOD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=73b2881a11fc46e1a003c6abcda8360e&ei=44

mapuc
10-03-24, 03:47 PM
There seems to be a wish for an economical crash in Russia
I myself hope Russian economy will crash sooner or later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQkSoUpsBIk

Jimbuna
10-04-24, 06:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2emKPPtEwng

Jimbuna
10-04-24, 10:02 AM
'Backbone' of Putin's radar system worth £75,000,000 destroyed

One of Vladimir Putin’s £75 million radar stations was destroyed in an attack that could disrupt Russia’s air defences, it has been reported.

Ukraine unleashed US-supplied ballistic missiles, ATACMS, on the Nebo-M in an unspecified location.

The Ukrainian military said it believed Russia had 10 such operational systems left, which have previously been hailed as ‘the menace of stealth technologies’.

Russian general Yan Novikov boasted in the summer that the radar can spot most advanced aircraft, including the US F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II.

The Ukrainian military did not confirm when the strike had taken place or give the location of the station in its statement on Telegram.

It said: Units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine missile troops successfully struck the Russian Nebo-M radar station with ATACMS ballistic missiles.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/backbone-of-putin-s-radar-system-worth-75-000-000-destroyed/ar-AA1rFab3?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=04954c783c98442a9728d4ac4b29a572&ei=115

mapuc
10-04-24, 05:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChexwisMUns

Markus

Jimbuna
10-05-24, 06:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeabIfivp9E

Jimbuna
10-05-24, 06:54 AM
Russia's losses in Ukraine as of October 5: +1280 soldiers and a lot of equipment

In the past 24 hours, from October 4 to 5, Russian forces have lost 1,280 soldiers on the front lines, over 70 artillery systems, and 5 anti-aircraft systems, according to the data from the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The total combat Russian losses from February 24, 2022, to October 5, 2024, are estimated to be:

・personnel - about 659 220 (+1280) Russian troops were eliminated;

・tanks - 8916 (+8);

・troop-carrying AFVs - 17 658 (+31);

・artillery systems - 19 037 (+72);

・MLRS - 1216 (+4);

・anti-aircraft systems - 970 (+5);

・aircraft - 368;

・helicopters - 328;

・UAV operational-tactical level - 16 529 (+35);

・cruise missiles - 2613;

・warships/boats - 28;

・submarines - 1;

・vehicles and fuel tanks - 25 905 (+85);

・special equipment - 3344 (+11).

Frontline situation and shelling

According to ISW, Ukrainian forces have successfully engaged the enemy in the Kharkiv region. However, Russian troops have achieved success in several directions in the Donetsk region.

During the night, Russian forces once again attacked Ukraine with Shahed drones. Air defense forces destroyed three enemy drones.

The General Staff reports that the most challenging situation for defenders has developed in the Kurakhove direction.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-s-losses-in-ukraine-as-of-october-5-1280-soldiers-and-a-lot-of-equipment/ar-AA1rJx3i?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=72453828d1214ca0b910526295f4ed57&ei=60

mapuc
10-05-24, 09:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BykRcIH8Cnw

Markus

Jimbuna
10-05-24, 10:46 AM
Ukrainian military hits three Russian command posts with Storm Shadow missiles - General Staff

Ukrainian forces hit three Russian command posts with Storm Shadow missiles and GMLRS shells, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

“A successful fire attack was made recently on the command posts of the 35th and 27th separate motorized rifle brigades, as well as one of the command posts of the 2nd guards combined arms army of the Russian armed forces. The results of the strikes are being clarified,” the statement said.

According to the General Staff, units of the Air Force and the Rocket Forces and Artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in cooperation with other components of the Defense Forces were involved in the strikes.

“The attack was carried out with Storm Shadow missiles and GMLRS rockets,” the military added.

Situation at front

On October 4, 159 combat clashes took place on the frontline. There were more Russian attacks in the Kupiansk sector than in the Pokrovsk sector.

According to the Institute for the Study of War, the Ukrainian Armed Forces conducted a successful operation near Lyptsi, Kharkiv region. Meanwhile, the Russians advance near Kreminna, Toretsk, Pokrovsk, and west of Donetsk.

British intelligence believes that after capturing Vuhledar, the Russian army is likely to continue its offensive. Bohoiavlenka and Velyka Novosilka may be under threat.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukrainian-military-hits-three-russian-command-posts-with-storm-shadow-missiles-general-staff/ar-AA1rKk0H?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=875b30cd580f44a49d6db683ea7f9777&ei=13

Dargo
10-05-24, 01:53 PM
Ukraine’s Donbas Strategy: Retreat Slowly and Maximize Russia’s LossesThe idea is to use rope-a-dope tactics, letting Russian forces pound away until they have exhausted themselves. It’s far from clear if the Ukrainian strategy will succeed. Throughout the year, Ukraine has lost a series of cities, towns and villages in its eastern Donbas region to Russia, typically withdrawing its troops after hard-fought battles that sometimes lasted for months. Marinka was the first to fall, a sign in January that Russia had regained momentum on the battlefield. Then came Avdiivka, an industrial city where Ukrainian soldiers had hunkered down in a dense maze of trenches and bunkers. Finally, this past week, Ukraine retreated from Vuhledar, a mining town perched on high ground that was a linchpin of Ukrainian defenses in the southeast.

To outside observers, Ukraine’s slow but steady retreat from the Donbas region, the main theater of the war today, may seem to signal the beginning of the endgame, with Moscow firmly gaining the upper hand on the battlefield, leveraging its overwhelming advantage in manpower and firepower. But Ukrainian commanders and military experts dispute that, saying that a more crucial fight is unfolding in the region that goes beyond simple territorial gains and losses. It is now a war of attrition, they say, with each side trying to exhaust the other by inflicting maximum losses, hoping to break the enemy’s capacity and will to continue the war... https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/05/world/europe/ukraine-donbas-strategy-russia-war.html?unlocked_article_code=1.P04.FFy8.K4jQrMVU Bf3p&smid=url-share

mapuc
10-05-24, 02:48 PM
When comparing manpower Russia do have the upper hand. Some say that Russia has problem with their manpower-This information is coming from Russian millbloggers(Seen in my latest video)

Who suffers most if they lose 1000 men during a battle. Russia ? Ukraine ?

Markus

Skybird
10-05-24, 04:04 PM
The slow retreat of Ukraine is not so much a tactic, but its the result of attritional warfare where one side is by numbers and production potentials disadvantaged. This asymmetry in a war pof attrition is wta seals the weaker side's doom. IOn other words: the falling back of Ukrianian troops is not so mcuznb a chosen tatcic, but it indicates "no other choice". In recent fighintg over the opast 2-3 months in the Pokrovsk and Vhlavar area Russian artillery shellign was superior by raitos of 10:1 to 12:1. They also massively use heavy payload gliding bombs of up to 3 tons that get launched an ranges where the Ukrainians have no air defence to keep the launchign aerial platforms away.

The Ukrainians are being bombed out and worn down - that simple the grim truth is.

The Ukrainian counter"offenmsive" into Kursk also has practically complelely bogged down. The Russians tried to counter that on the Wetsern flank, and the Ukrainians tried to counterattack into that Russian counterattack. Both sides only partially were successful in their individual ambitions. The Ukrainains can practically do nnothign there anynmore, the Russians have frozen them in place and in tiny tiny steps retake small poeaces of ground, with Ukraine not having any reserves to again make a big push there. While they move dinto Ukraine and took 1000 km2 of irrelevant terrain, they lost 500 km" of hioghly relev ant terrain in the Vuhladar and Pokrovsk region - ad very bad deal imo. They had taken this gamble in a bid to force Russia to weaken their drive in these relervant areas, but it did not work, Vuhladar is lost and now the Russians can work on flanking Pokrovsk north of it.The attack into Kursk costed precious reserves in men and material - and does nothing for Ukraine so far, and I do not see that changing in the future. The Kursk offensive - is a dud. The logistical situaiton of Russia in the area in Donbass they so heavily fight over has dramatically improved, their supply lines can no longer be disrupted by ukrainian artillery, with the loss of Vuhladar they are out of range.

Selensky's "victory plan" has refused to ignite, too. They do not get guarantees equal to NATO membership. They do not get permission to strike deep into Russia with Western weapons. They only got word for some more material deliveries (with time tables for that already lagging behind...), and more money. That is not enough.

And now comes winter.

Ukraine is on the road to defeat, and currently more clearly than ever before. Putin just recently vowed once again that he will acchieve all his war objectioves. If these objectives are taking and keeping Crimea and the conquered four oblasts, I bet my money now on that he will keep his word. The West has long enough demonstrated his determination to not do what would be needed to enable Ukraine to stop the Russians, and by their own remains of an industry and with the powergrid destroyed to over 80% they cannot do it all by themselves. Their industry is too destroyed. Russia's industry is practically intact, with friendly cooperation of a shivering West.

Zum Kotzen. I hate the fact that Ukraine is being deliberately made to lose.
Their blood is also on our hands, because we drive them senselessly into the fight that we force them to wage in a way that they cannot win. And at the same time we humiliate them with our empty promises and phrases.

We, the so-called "West", should be ashamed of ourselves.


And our lousy behaviour is carefully being taken note of by other villains in the world. The way we fail Ukraine today will fall us on our feet in the future.

Skybird
10-05-24, 04:13 PM
And this. I waited long for this. I wonder what held Putin back so long.


https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/finanzen/wirtschafts-news/putin-droht-mit-stopp-von-rohstoff-export-fuer-europa-und-usa-waeren-folgen-enorm_e1d7fdea-4288-42cf-8d6d-77198e6835c2.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Dargo
10-05-24, 04:48 PM
And this. I waited long for this. I wonder what held Putin back so long.


https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/finanzen/wirtschafts-news/putin-droht-mit-stopp-von-rohstoff-export-fuer-europa-und-usa-waeren-folgen-enorm_e1d7fdea-4288-42cf-8d6d-77198e6835c2.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp0.1% of total U.S. global exports of $2.1 trillion were exported to Russia and 0.4% of total U.S. imports of $3.2 trillion from all countries were imported from Russia. Russia's share in the extra-EU exports fell from 3.2% in the first quarter of 2022 to 1.2% in the second quarter of 2024. Over the same period, the share of extra-EU imports from Russia fell from 9.3% to 1.3% So this is only hurting Russia if they want to lower it more. So again a failed threat by Herr Putler. Russia's economy is too small for us to be anything of a threat to our vastly bigger economies, we can take this dwarf. And with the Saudis upping oil production oil prise will lower Saudi Arabia want his share of the market back that will help us and destroy Russian exports.

Skybird
10-05-24, 04:54 PM
Note he talked of nickel, uranium and titanium, not of general commodities.

Maybe he cannot threaten with nickel, but uranium and titanium are something different, not to mention Rosatom's reprocessing capabilities of burnt fuel rods, which are second to none in the world. Russia leads here, both in knowledge and expertise, and capacities. If Rosatom shuts down its Europe business, than France has a very big problem.

There is a reason why they saved Rosatom from sanctions for so long. They cannot be replaced currently.

mapuc
10-05-24, 04:56 PM
You could be right from what I know. However there's a lot of stuff in the Ukrainian underground which will make the West do anything to prevent Russia winning the war.

As Dargo wrote in a response to one of my comment-That's how war is fought and this is why we didn't help Belarus, there's no win in helping them-

They, the West, have posted billions and billions of dollars and Euros into the war. Do you think they will let these billions of dollars and Euros disappear into nothing-A huge loss.

No, if there's an indication that Ukraine is on the verge of losing the war I wouldn't rule out a intervention by NATO

I could also be totally wrong though.

'cause the ammo and weapon delivery is to small and coming to late-The stream of help is a slow going process.

Markus

Dargo
10-05-24, 05:05 PM
Note he talked of nickel, uranium and titanium, not of general commodities.

Maybe he cannot threaten with nickel, but uranium and titanium are something different, not to mention Rosatom's reprocessing capabilities of burnt fuel rods, which are second to none in the world. Russia leads here, both in knowledge and expertise, and capacities. If Rosatom shuts down its Europe business, than France has a very big problem.

There is a reason why they saved Rosatom from sanctions for so long. They cannot be replaced currently.Rosatom will not shut down production, else it will end up like Gazprom. Herr Putler done it before, and it backfired, and we are bigger much bigger we can take the hit Russia can not it has a very costly war we have not. Real fixed investment is restrained in this scenario, reflecting losses in real exports, financial stress, declining equity prices, and reduced foreign investment. The most substantial losses are in Russia, as both foreign and domestic investors will take a more cautious approach to capital spending in Russia. Higher prices for critical minerals would therefore boost the competitiveness of non-Russian producers and help them enter the market. There are precedents: After gallium prices rose in 2021, a German company announced that it would restart production. Crises boost collaboration among allies. A Russian export ban on critical raw materials could turbocharge collaboration between like-minded allies. Already, signs of such cooperation are emerging, with the United States and Europe discussing collaboration to secure supplies of critical raw materials. Going further, the EU has proposed setting up a buyers’ club for critical mineral's cartel that would need to include both producers and other big consumers of critical raw materials such as the United States, Japan, and South Korea to be effective. If this is not enough we just gone buy it via China yep the same uranium from Rosatom it is already happening you really think Russia can do without revenues with a public military budget of +40% on top of the hidden one they bloody need the money. And there is always Kazatomprom it is the world’s largest producer and seller of natural uranium, providing over 40% of global primary uranium supply Russia has no monopoly like that copy/past article suggest. And yes we have the experience to make we in the west bloody invented the use of it sure we know how to make uranium ready for energy production that is easy.

Yellow Cake (Yellow Cake is a London-quoted company) has a 10-year supply agreement with Kazatomprom, the world’s largest producer of uranium, to buy $100mn of the mineral each year from the Kazakh company, which Yellow Cake then holds in storage facilities in Canada and France. At present, Yellow Cake holds the equivalent to almost 20 per cent of annual global supply.

mapuc
10-05-24, 05:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7G5MMW3K8o

Markus

Jimbuna
10-06-24, 05:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS49CnKvZjU

Jimbuna
10-06-24, 06:37 AM
The Kremlin warns forcing Russia into peace could be fatal

During his address to the UN Security Council on September 24th, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky emphasized that achieving peace with Moscow would require more than just negotiation, asserting the necessity of using force to bring an end to the war in Ukraine.

"This war can't be calmed by talks. Action is needed," Zelensky said during his address in front of the UN Security Council. “Putin has violated so many international norms and rules that he won't stop on his own,” he continued.

“Russia can only be forced into peace, and that is exactly what's needed — forcing Russia into peace, as the sole aggressor in this war, the sole violator of the U.N. Charter,” Zelensky added according to The Kyiv Independent.

Zelensky also condemned North Korea and Iran for supplying weapons to Russia, but it was the Ukrainian President’s remarks about using force that caught the attention of the Kremlin and Russian journalists.

"Russia has no legitimate reason -- none at all -- for making Iran and North Korea de facto accomplices in its criminal war in Europe, with their weapons killing us, killing Ukrainians," Zelensky said according to France24.

Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov was questioned by reporters about Zelensky’s comments in front of the UN Security Council and asked if Moscow could be forced into peace, Peskov replied: "This position is a fatal mistake. They’re deeply mistaken."

"This is the biggest misconception, which of course will inevitably have consequences for the Kyiv regime,” Peskov explained to reporters according to Newsweek’s translation of his comments, adding it would be “impossible” to force Russia into peace.

"Russia in fact is in favor of peace, but on the condition of ensuring the foundations of its security and the fulfillment of those tasks of the special military operation," Peskov explained.

“But unless these goals are achieved, it is impossible to force Russia," Peskov added. So it is unlikely, at least according to the Kremlin’s spokesperson, that Russia could be forced into peace with Ukraine by the world.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/the-kremlin-warns-forcing-russia-into-peace-could-be-fatal/ss-AA1rrEHO?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=a7cd025d29d042838f4d2e1720f31537&ei=25#image=1

Skybird
10-06-24, 07:36 AM
Dargo, I summarize it just briefly because I know that you won't accept anything I say anyway. Rosatom is the second largest uranium producer in the world after Kazatomprom (Kazakhstan). It is the world's leading reprocessor of spent fuel rods and without Rosatom the vast majority of nuclear power plants in Europe would have to be shut down sooner or later. To make matters worse, Rosatom has stakes in the five largest US Uran mining companies and also in Kazatomprom.

Whoever wants to sanction Rosatom by cutting it off from the European market in whatever way must prepare for this. And that takes time in this business sector: many years, it doesn't happen overnight. That's why, alongside Hungary, France is blocking it and is blocking it so strongly. Without the Russians, the French energy supply - and therefore the German one! - has an even more serious problem than Germany with gas. It is simply not possible to find a quick replacement for the uranium and reprocessing capacity of Rosatom. Most European reactors in operation are also dependent on the construction format of the Rosatom fuel rods; it is not possible to deviate from this format without practically rebuilding the reactor core completely, like you cant play a DVD in a tape recorder although both arer connected to loudspeakers.

Rosatom withdrawing form this contracts with Eurpope is a VERY BIG problem . Thats why the EU excluded it from all its sanctions lists until just recently. They cannot be replaced "on the fly". Germany was stupid with Russian gas. France and Hungary are as stupid with Russian nuclear stuff. And they are not the only ones whose reactors need them. The vast majority of European reactors need them.

Jimbuna
10-06-24, 08:12 AM
At Ramstein, NATO countries will propose more specific steps regarding Ukraine’s accession to Alliance

At the meeting in the Rammstein format on October 12, new steps by the allies in support of Ukraine, in particular regarding its North Atlantic integration, are expected.

Censor.NET informs with a reference to "European Pravda", The Washington Post newspaper reports this.

According to the Western diplomat, NATO countries are considering options for more specific support for Ukraine on the way to future membership.

Journalists noted that although these proposals may not fully satisfy Kyiv's urgent needs, they will still send an important signal.

Also, one of the Western diplomats noted that after Zelenskyy failed to get the missile restrictions lifted, Kyiv may receive some other help during the conference in Germany.

In turn, Ukrainian officials are concerned that the upcoming presidential elections in the United States may jeopardize the continuation of military aid.

Zelenskyy and his team are trying to convince US leader Joe Biden to support the Victory Plan, which could go down in history as part of his political legacy.

The newspaper noted that the White House is cautious about making decisions that could affect the Democratic campaign.

Earlier it was reported that at Ramstein on October 12, permission to use long-range weapons on targets in the Russian Federation will be discussed.

President Zelenskyy stated that at the 25th meeting in the Rammstein format, Ukraine will present steps for a just end to the war.

Also on October 5, the Financial Times article, which presented the opinions of unnamed diplomats and comments made publicly regarding possible scenarios for the end of the war and Ukraine's accession to NATO, stated that among the ideas voiced in the West as possible scenarios for the end of the current hot phase war in Ukraine and prevention of a new one - its acceptance into NATO on the model of West Germany.
Source: https://censor.net/en/n3513475

Dargo
10-06-24, 08:28 AM
Dargo, I summarize it just briefly because I know that you won't accept anything I say anyway. Rosatom is the second largest uranium producer in the world after Kazatomprom (Kazakhstan). It is the world's leading reprocessor of spent fuel rods and without Rosatom the vast majority of nuclear power plants in Europe would have to be shut down sooner or later. To make matters worse, Rosatom has stakes in the five largest US Uran mining companies and also in Kazatomprom.

Whoever wants to sanction Rosatom by cutting it off from the European market in whatever way must prepare for this. And that takes time in this business sector: many years, it doesn't happen overnight. That's why, alongside Hungary, France is blocking it and is blocking it so strongly. Without the Russians, the French energy supply - and therefore the German one! - has an even more serious problem than Germany with gas. It is simply not possible to find a quick replacement for the uranium and reprocessing capacity of Rosatom. Most European reactors in operation are also dependent on the construction format of the Rosatom fuel rods; it is not possible to deviate from this format without practically rebuilding the reactor core completely, like you cant play a DVD in a tape recorder although both arer connected to loudspeakers.

Rosatom withdrawing form this contracts with Eurpope is a VERY BIG problem . Thats why the EU excluded it from all its sanctions lists until just recently. They cannot be replaced "on the fly". Germany was stupid with Russian gas. France and Hungary are as stupid with Russian nuclear stuff. And they are not the only ones whose reactors need them. The vast majority of European reactors need them.France uses some 9700 tonnes of uranium oxide concentrate (8200 tonnes of uranium) per year for its electricity generation. Much of this comes from Orano (The company is engaged in uranium mining, conversion-enrichment, spent fuel recycling, nuclear logistics, dismantling, and nuclear cycle engineering activities.) in Canada and Niger. Beyond this, it is self-sufficient and has conversion, enrichment, uranium fuel fabrication and MOX (MOX fuel is nuclear fuel that contains more than one oxide of fissile material, usually consisting of plutonium blended with natural uranium.) fuel fabrication plants operational (together with reprocessing and a waste management programme). Most fuel cycle activities are carried out by Orano. The plant is expected to achieve its full nominal annual production capacity of 15,000 tonnes per year by 2023. Orano stated in September 2018 that EDF (Électricité de France) is committed to buy about one-third of the total output, with the balance mainly sold under long-term contracts to about 70 utilities in the USA, China, South Korea and several European countries. Orano has the capacity to produce and market 150 t/year of MOX fuel at its Melox plant for French and foreign customers (though it is licensed for 195 t/yr). In Europe 35 reactors have been loaded with MOX fuel. Contracts for MOX fuel supply were signed in 2006 with Japanese utilities, and a total of six shipments have been made, the most recent in 2017. All these fuel cycle facilities comprise a significant export industry and have been France’s major export to Japan. Orano sent just over 1000 tonnes recycled uranium (RepU) to Seversk in 2021 to be used in nuclear fuel fabrication in Russia. I do not know who is depended but it aint France or the West in general and feck Hungary they will get Russian plants so no problem there this contract include russian fuel. Rosatom has a 38% world market share and in 2019 led in global uranium enrichment services (36%) and covers 16% of the global nuclear fuel market. but it has to share that market with other companies https://craft.co/rosatom/competitors all gladly to take over Rosatom market share (Same happens on the oil market Saudi Arabia will grab the Russian market share and they can easy peasy because they sit on a huge pond of illegal Russian bought crude.). You can capitilize BIG PROBLEM but that does not make it big if you investigate deeper than reading a copy/paste article by people who do not understand the market the contracts with Rosatom must be fulfilled and they are decade long contracts it is not that a nuclear plant has to shop every week in the nuke webzshop in the meantime competitors will build bigger production. And stiil Kazakhstan is the largest uranium producer in the world https://www.statista.com/statistics/263550/mine-production-of-uranium-by-country/ so the market will go there if Russia stops it nuclear fuel trade. I only see this grant and glorious Russian Empire fail the data tells all.

Dargo
10-06-24, 09:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTuvK3eAmik

mapuc
10-06-24, 09:41 AM
I know that Skybird and Dargo have been discussing war of attrition. According to this person Russia is far from winning it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZVLrRDvyU

Markus

Jimbuna
10-06-24, 09:47 AM
Kremlin continues to recruit soldiers for money as long as cryptocurrency mobilization system operates - ISW

The Kremlin will continue its current efforts to recruit personnel for the front lines for money, at least as long as the cryptocurrency mobilization system is operational. reports the American Institute for the Study of War (ISW).

Analysts report that the Russian government plans to allocate 90 billion rubles (approximately $948 million) for one-time payments to individuals who sign military contracts with the Russian Ministry of Defense between 2025 and 2027. This indicates that the Kremlin intends to continue relying on its current cryptocurrency mobilization efforts to meet personnel needs for the war in Ukraine, as long as the system remains operational.

The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) notes that, at present, Russia is offering a one-time payment of 400,000 rubles or $4,200 for signing a military contract, in addition to amounts provided by regional governments, some of which have exceeded 1 million rubles. This suggests that the Kremlin aims to recruit 225,000 new soldiers through contractual service between 2025 and 2027, assuming current recruitment rates are maintained. However, this seems unlikely given that recruitment rates have consistently increased since 2022.

The report also indicates that Russian authorities have significantly increased financial incentives in recent months, expressing concerns that current recruitment efforts are yielding diminishing returns. Nonetheless, existing recruitment initiatives have proven insufficient for maintaining a steady formation of new forces relied upon by the Russian military to sustain its offensive pace in Ukraine.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/kremlin-continues-to-recruit-soldiers-for-money-as-long-as-cryptocurrency-mobilization-system-operates-isw/ar-AA1rLGUu?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=e66bc4e1456b4122bd1e1745de7ab0a4&ei=96

Dargo
10-06-24, 11:03 AM
This attrition is not about manpower, only Ukraine just destroyed a Russian 9K33 Osa anti-aircraft missile system it is worth about $10 million and was shot down with an FPV drone worth several hundred dollars. Or the Russia's Nebo-M radar system, designed to detect long-range ballistic missiles and stealth aircraft like the U.S. F-22 and F-35 with only about 10 operational units, each valued at over $100 million with ATACMS worth $820,000-$1,700,000, that is the attrition. It has effect slow, incremental and bloody micro-advances by the Russian army. Putin still seems determined to take whatever territory he can before the US election, probably in the hope that Trump wins and that the war is frozen at that point, and he gets to keep it (though the Ukrainian offensive in Kursk has complicated things in this gamble). However, the specific case of Vuhledar changes little in that equation. It seems that advancing on Pokrovsk proved too difficult (remember that was about to fall in the first half of August and Kursk by end September), so the Russians turned to an area that was closer.

More attrition:Ukrainian Forces Capture Rare Russian Stealth Drone Okhotnik Worth $1.5 BillionUkrainian troops in the eastern region of Ukraine recently encountered a rare Russian Okhotnik stealth drone that crashed near the town of Chasiv Yar. This drone, which boasts a wingspan of 65 feet and a jet-powered design, is one of the limited number of units in existence, with an estimated cost of around $1.5 billion.

The circumstances surrounding the drone’s downfall remain unclear. Ground footage reportedly shows a warplane launching a missile at the Okhotnik, leading to its descent. While it may seem likely that a Ukrainian fighter was responsible for the strike, there is also a possibility that a Russian aircraft engaged the drone. Should the Okhotnik have experienced a malfunction, Russian forces might have opted to destroy it to prevent it from crash-landing largely intact within Ukrainian territory... https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukrainian-forces-capture-rare-russian-stealth-drone-okhotnik-worth-15-billion-reports-forbes-2822

Dargo
10-06-24, 12:47 PM
The Netherlands is allocating 400 million euros to start developing drones together with Ukraine. Defence minister Brekelmans announced this during a visit to the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv. Half of the drones are to be developed in the Netherlands. The other half will be shared between Ukraine and other countries. According to the minister, the Netherlands previously played a ‘pioneering role’ in supplying F-16s and Patriot systems. ‘Now we are continuing this with advanced drones.’

According to the minister, these are drones that can be used for different purposes: reconnaissance, defence and attack. ‘Particularly in the air, but also on land and sea.’ Brekelmans tells news agency ANP that these are the ‘most advanced drones’. According to the minister, they are in high demand because they are important for Ukraine's anti-aircraft defence and are also valuable offensively. Other countries are also working on these types of drones, Brekelmans said. If the developed drones are successful, more money will be available to scale up production, reports the defence ministry. Brekelmans also confirmed that the first of 24 promised Dutch F-16s have been delivered to Ukraine.

Jimbuna
10-06-24, 12:53 PM
Then the band played 'Believe It If You Like'

Putin betrayed, he is going to help Ukraine

Alexander Lukashenko has hinted that Belarus might assist Ukraine in rebuilding their country once the conflict with Russia comes to an end.

The Belarusian leader, who is closely aligned with Vladimir Putin, argued that Ukraine won't be able to rely on the United States because the country will be too preoccupied with its own domestic issues.

"He [President Zelenskyy] does not travel to Minsk or Moscow to reach an agreement and ultimately stop the war. He believes that the Americans will rebuild Ukraine following the war. Nobody will rebuild it," he said, according to the BelTa news agency.

"As a result, Ukraine's leadership must take a head-on approach and recognise that the country must first be rebuilt. With the assistance of those close to them, particularly Belarusians," he added.

Alexander Lukashenko has consistently refused to join Russia in its fight in Ukraine, despite repeated requests from Vladimir Putin.

Last year, members of the Wagner paramilitary group took refuge in Belarus after ending their brief mutiny.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/putin-betrayed-he-is-going-to-help-ukraine/ar-AA1rMSsi?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=e0ca9a64a8a7487ca8fd684595c1c164&ei=50

mapuc
10-06-24, 02:24 PM
If we should believe what has been said in some of the video I have posted lately-Russia is facing a major defeat and that is sooner than we think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB3YpM1S-Ic

Edit
An interesting video on why most experts fail to predict Russia's invasion of Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T2MYXljL5o
End edit

Markus

Skybird
10-06-24, 06:20 PM
Winter is coming, and it will be cold and dark for the population, much worse than the past two war winters have been.



During that tiem and now in the rain and mud period of autumn, Rus sia will continue to hammer Ukrainian cities and positons with artillery and glide bombs,anmd will do so in winter, and will do so in mud and rain period of spring, and ther eis little Ukroiane can do about it since it lacks the needed air defence. At the end of next spring, Ukraine's situation then will be much more desperate than it already is now.


All the time until then the West will continue to limit aid to Ukraine, for two reasons: because it does not have that much left anymore itself (the Europeans are "rifle" and the Americans must balance the deliveries to Ukraine with deliveries to Korea, to their own forces in the pacific and to Israel); and becasue one wants to "convince" (=force) Ukraine to make hurting concessions to Russia for a seize-fire (a dictated "peace") and to write the occupied territories off.


Putin is absolutely right, sadly: Russia will achieve all its major objectives: keeping Crimea, and keeping all of Donbass, Luhansk and much of Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia.



In principle, its over. Just that nobody wants to see it. Only a most dramatic change of Westenr policy can prevent this, or a black swan event - and I think the first is utmost unrealistic to expect coming, and the second is by nature and definition something you cannot calculate with.


Tja. Sch....e.



But as I said already very early in the war: nobody really wants Ukraine to defeat Russia and gain a shining victory, that would cost Paris and Berlin way too much power and prestige and would give Ukraine way too much influence in Europe. They all acted just "as if", but not "for real", from beginning on.



Slaughtered by the Russians and betrayed, sold and swindled by the Europeans and Americans - you can only feel sorry for the Ukrainians.

Jimbuna
10-07-24, 09:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2076N8_wLo

mapuc
10-07-24, 09:45 AM
Is this a recipe for Russian fiasco ?
Going after civilians and not the Ukrainian military

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MONxb4IZVCI

Markus

Jimbuna
10-07-24, 09:59 AM
New record for average daily losses of Russians in Ukraine set in September - British intelligence

In September 2024, the average daily losses of the Russian occupation army amounted to 1271 people (killed and wounded). This is a new record since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion.

According to Censor.NET, this is stated in the daily review of British intelligence.

The previous record was set in May 2024, when Russia's average daily losses were 1,262 (killed and wounded). In total, Russia has probably lost more than 648,000 military personnel during the entire full-scale war.

"The increase in the level of losses is almost certainly due to the expansion of the combat zone in Kharkiv and Kursk regions. military operations, as well as the increase in the intensity of hostilities along the front line.

"Russian troops are likely to continue to try to stretch Ukrainian forces, using masses to overcome defensive positions and achieve tactical advantages," the review says.

The intelligence also predicts that Russia's average daily casualties will remain at the level of 1,000 people despite the approach of winter.

"To date, winter conditions have not led to a reduction in offensive operations or casualties because Russia relies on infantry tactics and does not wage a manoeuvrable war that requires better conditions," the British analysts concluded.

As a reminder, according to the National Security and Defence Council's Disinformation Countermeasures Centre, the Russian government intends to recruit at least 225,000 people annually for contract service in the army over the next three years. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3513605

Dargo
10-07-24, 01:16 PM
Is this a recipe for Russian fiasco ?
Going after civilians and not the Ukrainian military

MarkusIf you flatten cities/villages the defender can not hide in it, think that is their idea.

mapuc
10-07-24, 02:26 PM
If you flatten cities/villages the defender can not hide in it, think that is their idea.

To be honest I totally misunderstod it I thought he meant in Ukraine and then it was in Kursk oblast. I should have read the title of the video twice.

The Germans did the same in Soviet during their incursion of said country, which gave the Russian a lot of benefits and disadvantage.

Edit
Russia must increase their production of heavy weapons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3yu1ShJ-Ws
End edit

Markus

mapuc
10-07-24, 05:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltcwKQZeMAw

Markus

Skybird
10-07-24, 08:56 PM
Merciless analysis, devastating conclusion.
https://youtu.be/S44YrTWjpXM?si=-bKtiHw5NRjvkBGQ

Skybird
10-08-24, 05:43 AM
https://www-achgut-com.translate.goog/artikel/russlands_grosse_transformation_zur_kriegswirtscha ft?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


Current developments show that the war in Ukraine has become part of the Russian economy at a structural level. Military and social spending now drive both economic growth and the incomes of the population. This development is unlikely to be reversed in the short term.

Jimbuna
10-08-24, 07:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmOLNqm1jc0

Jimbuna
10-08-24, 08:09 AM
North Korea issues final warning to NATO

North Korea has warned that NATO will face "tragic consequences" if the alliance continues to condemn its friendly relationship with Russia.

A spokesperson from North Korea's Foreign Ministry, speaking anonymously, stated that the country would take all necessary measures to minimize the threat posed by the United States.

The same spokesperson expressed Pyongyang's regret over NATO's increasing support for Ukraine. Additionally, North Korea’s Foreign Ministry accused NATO of expanding its influence over the Korean Peninsula and into Asia.

"If NATO continues to try hard to infringe upon the dignity, sovereignty, security, and interests of the DPRK while persistently pursuing hostile policy toward it, NATO blindly following the U.S. will be held wholly responsible for the tragic consequences to be entailed by it," the spokesperson added.

According to The New York Times, North Korea has reportedly been shipping missiles to Russia, whose arsenal is running low after more than two years of conflict.

In the past, Vladimir Putin traveled to Pyongyang to meet Kim Jong Un and request military aid, particularly shells and missiles.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/north-korea-issues-final-warning-to-nato/ar-AA1rSL67?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=b3c81205a4e1449b919fd786186d5c88&ei=17

mapuc
10-08-24, 01:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWHRPx1DXcE

Markus

mapuc
10-08-24, 05:08 PM
Do you think he is right on this ?

During the speech, Orbán claimed that “Ukraine cannot win on the battlefield,” adding that it is in the European Union’s interest to establish better communication with Russia to negotiate a ceasefire.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/10/08/orban-europe-needs-peace-but-eu-leaders-want-war

Markus

Jimbuna
10-09-24, 07:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lYQJdz7rWs

Jimbuna
10-09-24, 07:55 AM
Ukraine wants to organize new Peace Summit with participation of Russia before end of year - Ambassador Bodnar

Ukraine aims to organize the second Global Peace Summit by the end of 2024 and wants Russia to be present at it this time. But there will be no direct negotiations with Moscow at this meeting.

As Censor.NET informs, the Ambassador of Ukraine to Turkey Vasyl Bodnar stated this in a Reuters comment.

"One of the most important goals of this summit is to achieve a just peace in Ukraine. We are not talking about a format in which Ukraine and Russia sit opposite each other and Ukraine listens to Russia's demands," the ambassador noted.

According to him, the international community, together with Ukraine, will create a list of what steps can be taken for a just peace in the country, and then they will discuss what demands to put on Russia based on this list.

"This will not be a direct bilateral meeting (with the Russian Federation - ed.), it will most likely be a format where third parties will be involved, and (negotiations - ed.) will be conducted through third parties. We hope to hold this summit until the end year," said Bodnar.

As the diplomat added, Turkey, which during the war tried to maintain relations with both Ukraine and Russia, will be an important participant in the meeting due to its experience of mediation in other conflicts.

Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan is expected to attend the Ukraine-Southeast Europe summit in the Croatian city of Dubrovnik on Wednesday.

A Turkish diplomatic source said he would reiterate Ankara's position there that any peace talks must include both sides for a "fair and lasting" settlement. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3514042

Skybird
10-09-24, 09:31 AM
Do you think he is right on this ?



https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/10/08/orban-europe-needs-peace-but-eu-leaders-want-war

Markus

He is right that Ukraine cannot win the war by its terms (retaking all occupied territories and drive the Russians out). He is wrong that it is in the EU's reach to negotiate Russia into anything that is not a dictated peace deal by Ruzssian demands leaving Ukraine impotent.

Jimbuna
10-09-24, 09:50 AM
Text with all conditions for fair end to war will be ready in November, - Zelenskyy

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that in November, a text with conditions for a just end to the war would be ready for the second Peace Summit.

The head of state said this at the third Ukraine-Southeast Europe Summit in Croatia, Censor.NET reports.

"Since July, we have been working on a formula for peace. In November, everything will be ready. With all the conditions that spell out a just end to the war. This will be done at the second Peace Summit. Of course, the question is how to get Russia to take part in this. How to make those who are responsible for the war implement the formula for peace. Russia is now avoiding honest, open diplomacy. That is why we in Ukraine have developed an action plan that can remedy the situation between the current state and the upcoming Peace Summit," he said.

According to Zelenskyy, this is a plan that will ensure stability and deprive Russia of the opportunity to further threaten Europe.

"This plan has already been presented to the United States, and now we are sharing this plan with all our partners to achieve the goals of the plan," the president added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3514068

Catfish
10-09-24, 10:38 AM
Text with all conditions for fair end to war will be ready in November, - Zelenskyy
Problem is Putin wlll not want to negotiate.

Dargo
10-09-24, 11:47 AM
I wonder if Orbán ever blames the Soviet invasion of 1956 on Hungarians? Orbán is a useful idiot for Russia he only preaches Russian propaganda no truths, Orbán is Putin's slave.

mapuc
10-09-24, 11:54 AM
I wonder if Orbán ever blames the Soviet invasion of 1956 on Hungarians? Orbán is a useful idiot for Russia he only preaches Russian propaganda no truths, Orbán is Putin's slave.

Maybe so, the question is whether he's right or wrong in his statement that Ukraine can't win the war on the battlefield.

Markus

Dargo
10-09-24, 12:33 PM
Maybe so, the question is whether he's right or wrong in his statement that Ukraine can't win the war on the battlefield.

MarkusYou do not understand it Orbán is the agent of Putin in the EU the question of who wins or loses is in the future nobody can predict that it is used to drive apart the Western coalition. Like the Chinese "peace" deal, Orbán's "peace" deal will fail, but this is the policy of the mad men Putin is doing it since 2014. This has nothing to do with peace, these are bullies that try to act like crazy so they can scary their victims.

Jimbuna
10-09-24, 12:49 PM
Problem is Putin wlll not want to negotiate.

Most definitely and any negotiations would have to be on his terms :yep:

Dargo
10-09-24, 03:07 PM
The Russian government's sudden ban on the Discord app is being criticised as disastrous by Russian milbloggers, due to its impact on the Russian military's battlefield command and control. "Everyone [is] back to the level of March 2022," one says. Videos, published by Russian military units, show them using the Discord instant messaging and VoIP platform to coordinate drone and artillery strikes. The abrupt decision by Russian regulator Roskomnadzor to ban Discord has blocked this for many units. Milblogger 'Troika' complaints about the impact:At the control centres of dozens of compounds, broadcasts from drones operating through closed Discord rooms have dropped. Thus setting everyone back to the level of March 2022. Even the Ukrainians and America couldn't do that.'ZHIVOV Z' says sarcastically that Ukraine should award Roskomnadzor "with a second star of the Hero of Ukraine. The first one was already awarded from Kyiv for anonymising Russian bloggers. With such friends, we do not need enemies. 'Soldier of Fortune' asks: "What's your beef with Discord? What did they do? Do you know that the army actively uses Discord? Let's all ****ing block it. Lately I've been more pissed off with Roskomnadzor than with the Ministry of Defence."

'Varyag' complains that "After Discord was blocked, all streams from birds to HQs dropped. Now instead of completing combat tasks, warriors will be figuring out how to get it all up. To one degree or another, this will affect the results." ‘Thank you’ to all those faggots who make the decisions to block." 'Dead Heads' writes: "It seems that our geniuses have seriously decided to block the operation of the service that the military uses to adjust artillery." "Well, now get ready for the time between detecting a target and hitting it to drop again, thanks to which fewer crested ones will die. And if the survivability of pigs increases, then more of ours will die. He wonders whether Roskomnadzor are "either degenerates or traitors. And it's not even clear which is worse."

Lina Bulatnikova admits that "it is extremely stupid to transmit all frontline intelligence information live through Western Discord servers, which Western partners view in real time." "On the other hand, in three years of war we have not given birth to an alternative, so the failure of Discord now threatens great, to put it mildly, inconveniences." 'Bomber Harris DID NOTHING WRONG' angrily calls for "the bureaucratic creatures responsible for this decision [to] themselves go to the front lines to organise broadcast networks for UAVs, cameras and other 99+ things that are shoved through Discord onto PCs and PPUs."

Roman Alekhine says "civilian officials damaged the front, which most likely increased the losses among our soldiers and equipment, everyone began to explain this to them, but then it's the end of the working day, and it's time to go home, and no instructions were received." "And to hell with the front, to hell with the losses, with the fact that we don't have enough people at the front, as well as with the constant reminders from the President about the importance of victory for Russia. "The end of the working day, no one gave instructions, you can forget about it.

And again I remember the question of the officers, to which the answer again became unclear: do they really want to win there? "If they do, then the speed of reaction to requests concerning the front should be different during the war. Perhaps tomorrow they will tell us that Discord is "leaky" and the enemy can view broadcasts from drones even in closed channels. "But even in this case, before killing this application, it was necessary to create a replacement and warn the commanders about the plans, so as not to simply break the work at the front in an instant, which will definitely increase the losses while they are looking for a replacement.

"This is called seeing a little further than your nose or one step ahead, and the ability to do this, just shows whether the manager is competent or not. If this is not a planned action to weaken our fighters and help our enemy (I don't want to believe it). 'Informant' says that "there are already reports of serious breakdowns in the work with UAVs in the SVO zone: there are no broadcasts from drones, chats do not work and there is no coordination. "Let us remind you that this application is actively used by our soldiers to exchange information in real time, now this is gone. "Roskomnadzor, thank you very much , without your initiative's life would be very boring, but now our military will have something to do – to bypass the consequences of another wise decision."

'Reverse Side of the Medal' looks on the bright side, however:

"Well, that's it, Discord - RIP...

It's becoming easier and easier to breathe without Western influence.

I ran across the meadows and hugged the birches." https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1844095103608160318.html

Jimbuna
10-10-24, 06:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvIkk6vZ-M

Jimbuna
10-10-24, 06:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBXZvFqecIY

Catfish
10-10-24, 08:27 AM
Orban has to go, or Hungary should be thrown out of the EU. This Putin puppet should make Hungary a russian country so they all can live in peace and prosper lol.

On a sidenote, I wonder what the ripples of october 12th will be, and what this will do to Putin's war economy... Yuan anyone?

Skybird
10-10-24, 08:54 AM
[Westfälische Nachrichten] The Ukrainian government has firmly rejected an Italian media report that it is ready for a ceasefire with Russia along the current front line. “This is untrue,” said Dmytro Lytvyn, advisor and speechwriter to President Volodymyr Zelenskyi, according to a report by the Interfax-Ukraine agency.

Ukraine continues to adhere to the peace formula published in autumn 2022, which is based on the complete withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukrainian territory, he emphasized. “The Victory Plan, which is currently being presented to Great Britain, France, Italy and Germany, is an instrument that will drive the situation towards the implementation of the peace formula.”

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If it were true (I have no clue, but consider everything possible), it would illustrate how very desperate the Ukrainian situation now is.
Brace yourself. Winter is coming. It will collect rich harvest this time. Their eneryg grid is practically down, is destroyed to over 80%.
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Some days ago media reported the desertation of a famous Ukrainian volunteer who fought the Russians since 2014, condstantly. He did so in the open, in the public, under running cameras, so to speak, letting the public know that all soldiers have inner limits of what they can endure and bear and that there needs to be more rotation and recruiting justice for serving soldiers, a limitation of serving time. You can hardly accuse him of cowardice or treason - he volunteered and stayed for ten years, fighting these ten year all along, and now did what he did to force public and politlical focussing on a key issue that goes wrong.

The problem is - taken from a linked story I posted some days ago - that the average age of Ukrainain soldiers now is 41, meanign that those now fighting are the last generation off offsprings from the last Sovjet baby boomer generation. This in reverse means that they have only very few young men left who are young and not oldere than in their early twenties. And these young men are who are desperately needed for Ukraine to rebuild and reconstruct and repopulate the ciuntry after the war once has ended. That is the reason why Kyiv is so hesitent to completely crack down on them and recruit them by all force a state would be able to impose. Its a demographic dilemma which has no moral and just solution (thats what makes it a dilemma).

Catfish
10-10-24, 09:20 AM
^ well the average age of russian soldiers is now at 52+ as i read. Ammunition in Russia is getting scarce, just today another russian depot exploded.

And as I said before China will now stop the yuan exchange against russian rubel, which will make it difficult for Putin and his war of aggression to get his hands on weapons and ammunition abroad.

Jimbuna
10-10-24, 12:22 PM
And as I said before China will now stop the yuan exchange against russian rubel, which will make it difficult for Putin and his war of aggression to get his hands on weapons and ammunition abroad.

I certainly hope so.

mapuc
10-10-24, 12:46 PM
The one who ask for ceasefire use to be the one who are in trouble on the battlefield.

Thinking it's only Ukraine who have problems on the battlefield-Haven't followed the situation closely enough. 'cause even Russia have problems despite their momentum.

Markus

Jimbuna
10-11-24, 06:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGMn4MRAa_I

Dargo
10-11-24, 03:11 PM
Ukraine will receive its Dassault Aviation Mirage 2000-5F in 2025.The countdown has begun. This Tuesday, October 8, 2024, the Minister of the Armed Forces, Mr. Sébastien Lecornu, officially announced that France will deliver its Dassault Aviation Mirage 2000-5F fighters to Ukraine at the beginning of next year . They are currently in the industrial phase in order to gain versatility with respect to the standards of the Air and Space Force . The exact number of aircraft that will be delivered is still unknown.

It was from Air Base 113 in Saint Dizier, on the occasion of the 60th anniversary of the first nuclear mission of the Strategic Air Forces, that Sébastien Lecornu made his announcement to the press. There is no doubt that it was not very well received in the Kremlin. Dictator Vladimir Putin is not very happy with European countries supplying fighter planes to Ukraine. This somewhat hinders the lightning war he launched two and a half years ago against this country and its sovereignty.

According to our various sources, France will supply between twelve and twenty Mirage 2000-5Fs to war-torn Ukraine next year. The Minister of the Armed Forces has targeted the first quarter, i.e. between January 1 and March 30, 2025. By then, the French teams must ensure the operational transformation of pilots and the advanced training of mechanics and gunsmiths. It is currently unknown whether one or more Mirage 2000B two-seaters will be integrated into the batch of aircraft supplied. On the other hand, what is certain is that from pure fighters specialized in air policing within the Air and Space Force, the Mirage 2000-5Fs will become multi-role combat aircraft in the ranks of the Povitryani Syly Zbroynykh Syl Ukrayiny . The aircraft will also be repainted in Ukrainian colors. One of the main changes will be the ability to carry and fire the SCALP-EG cruise missile, which is already in service with the PS ZSU ... https://www-avionslegendaires-net.translate.goog/2024/10/actu/lukraine-obtiendra-ses-dassault-aviation-mirage-2000-5f-en-2025/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Dargo
10-11-24, 03:43 PM
€10.4 billion was allocated to aid Ukraine in the budget of the Netherlands. The amount of aid provided at the moment, taking into account the F-16, Patriot and other weapons and equipment, is ~€4 billion - Minister of Defence of the Netherlands Brekelmans. In his tweet, the Minister of Defence reported that the Netherlands is helping with all its might and is trying to do it as quickly as possible.

@DefensieMin https://x.com/DefensieMin/status/1844710217818263792
I see reports going around as if €1 billion would be cut from aid to Ukraine. That is NOT correct. Not one euro less is going to Ukraine. A total of €10.4bn has been released for military aid. Of that, almost €4 billion has been delivered, there is still >€6 billion space. On top of that, money is also available for other forms of support (such as for energy infrastructure). Instead, I am committed to ensuring that everything is delivered ASAP (which is why some contracts are in 2024 instead of 2025, for example).

Ukraine is fighting an intense battle and cannot wait. As the Netherlands, we support Ukraine unabated. We are among the countries that provide relatively large amounts of support. The amount fluctuates every year. This is not surprising. Some contracts or deliveries just fall into one year or the other in accounting terms.

In almost every conversation I notice gratitude for this. Again recently in Kharkiv and Kyiv. And each time I then express 5 times as much gratitude. For the enormous courage and sacrifices of Ukrainians. They are fighting not only for their freedom and security, but also that of Europe.

mapuc
10-11-24, 04:42 PM
One of you have on some occasion said it's not in NATO/EU's interest letting Ukraine win, but to weaken Russia military.

Now I wonder-All these billions who have been posted in the war-Don't you think the giver want something back for these money ?

Markus

Dargo
10-11-24, 05:04 PM
One of you have on some occasion said it's not in NATO/EU's interest letting Ukraine win, but to weaken Russia military.

Now I wonder-All these billions who have been posted in the war-Don't you think the giver want something back for these money ?

MarkusNot for the Netherlands, this is our revenge for MH17 countries like Poland, Finland, UK, Scandinavia, Italy and the majority of Eastern Europe do not want that Ukraine loses. And for the money we are already earning billions because of this war, every aid is an investment in their own defence economy. When this is over, Ukraine will become stronger than Russia. The Netherlands like most other countries have signed several defence contracts, I would not worry about the money.

mapuc
10-11-24, 05:24 PM
Never saw it from that point-of-view.

Those F-16 Ukraine have got so far, seems to be a good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnsf_cDyYmo

Markus

Skybird
10-11-24, 05:45 PM
One of you have on some occasion said it's not in NATO/EU's interest letting Ukraine win, but to weaken Russia military.

Now I wonder-All these billions who have been posted in the war-Don't you think the giver want something back for these money ?

Markus
Depends on what givers consider to be a good return for their money. Wearing out the Russian military and killing Russian men who then cannot make babies, cannot return into factories, and cannot stay in the military, maybe qualifies for that, in their understanding. And those who good physically wounded and psychologically brutalized may prove suicidal for the social structure of Russian society, corroding it from within.

August
10-11-24, 05:49 PM
One of you have on some occasion said it's not in NATO/EU's interest letting Ukraine win, but to weaken Russia military.

Now I wonder-All these billions who have been posted in the war-Don't you think the giver want something back for these money ?

Markus


The lack of a return on investment might be one reason that aid has not been as extensive as it might have been if there were. Maybe if some sort of "Lend-Lease" style program were created it might go a fair way in overcoming domestic opposition to giving Ukraine more aid.

Dargo
10-11-24, 05:56 PM
The lack of a return on investment might be one reason that aid has not been as extensive as it might have been if there were. Maybe if some sort of "Lend-Lease" style program were created it might go a fair way in overcoming domestic opposition to giving Ukraine more aid.You mean the Ukraine Democracy Defence Lend-Lease Act of 2022 was an act of the United States Congress that facilitated the supply of material to the Ukrainian government in a manner similar to the World War II Lend-Lease Act in response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Ukrainian diplomats worked hard to extend the Lend-Lease program beyond September 2023, but it expired on September 30. As of October 1, 2023, the act has been terminated since the fiscal year of 2023 has been over, without any use of Lend-Lease.

August
10-11-24, 08:30 PM
You mean the Ukraine Democracy Defence Lend-Lease Act of 2022 was an act of the United States Congress that facilitated the supply of material to the Ukrainian government in a manner similar to the World War II Lend-Lease Act in response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Ukrainian diplomats worked hard to extend the Lend-Lease program beyond September 2023, but it expired on September 30. As of October 1, 2023, the act has been terminated since the fiscal year of 2023 has been over, without any use of Lend-Lease.


I meant a program that would actually be used.

Dargo
10-12-24, 06:04 AM
Russian aviation related channel Fighterbomber with what looks to be another mourning message about a lost Su-34 fighter jet. Russian channels already claiming it was an F-16 that shot down the Russian fighter jet.Our Su-34 was shot down. The crew was killed. The airplane was shot down while dropping glide bombs, about 50 km from the front line. Our Su-34 was shot down, apparently by an F-16, which was over enemy-controlled territory. There will be more such losses soon. NATO has released F-16s for hunting. Now there will be less FABs flying. Consequently, the losses of our infantry will increase.https://i.postimg.cc/j51cBw6d/f-16vssu34.jpg

Fighterbomber generally reliable official conformation it is not, but I like the smell of panic and the thought that Russian dropping glide bombs could become too risky is always good.

Jimbuna
10-12-24, 07:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhj0w0eEci4

Jimbuna
10-12-24, 07:48 AM
Several thousand soldiers from DPRK are undergoing training in Russia and may be sent to front in Ukraine

By the end of the year, Russia may send several thousand soldiers from the DPRK to Ukraine, who are currently undergoing training in Russia.

According to Censor.NET, the Washington Post reports this with reference to a representative of the Ukrainian military intelligence on condition of anonymity.

Moreover, some North Korean officers are already on the territory of Ukraine occupied by Russia to observe Russian forces and study the situation on the battlefield. However, the Ukrainian military has not yet encountered a single North Korean unit that has taken part in combat operations.

The source also said that it is not yet known where exactly on the Ukrainian front the DPRK military units currently undergoing training in Russia could be deployed. One possibility is that they could be used in the Russian border regions to free up Russian troops to take part in the fighting in Ukraine.

"This could have a significant impact. Especially if we are talking about releasing reserves on the territory of the Russian Federation itself," said the Ukrainian intelligence official.

According to experts, North Korea can provide Russia not only with artillery shells but also with more advanced weapons, such as armoured vehicles, missiles, and multiple-launch rocket systems.

Foreign intervention by North Korea is rare, but in the past, they have sent military personnel to help with weapons and technology. For example, in 2016, North Korean missile technology was used in Syria.

In early October, South Korean Defence Minister Kim Yong-hyun said that the DPRK could send its military to the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine in support of Russia's war against our country. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3514522

Dargo
10-12-24, 08:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxKLaQ1p6os

Dargo
10-12-24, 08:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u2uUMcJmNM

mapuc
10-12-24, 09:50 AM
If it doesn't happens within the next 1-2 years from now-It will not happen. The economical collapse of the Russian economy.

NK soldiers fighting in Ukraine, would this mean that North Korea is taking active part in the war ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5ioRjRuekg

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Don't know how reliable these numbers are which say that Russia have lost 600.000 men in Ukraine and I would like to know the number of Ukrainian KIA and WIA in the war.
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Markus

Jimbuna
10-12-24, 10:26 AM
NK soldiers fighting in Ukraine, would this mean that North Korea is taking active part in the war ?

Markus

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Thursday dismissed claims of Pyongyang sending military forces to fight in Ukraine as a "hoax" but quite frankly I don't believe him.

On Tuesday, the North Korean leader sent a birthday message to President Putin, calling him his "closest comrade".

Can you imagine that....next they'll be exchanging Xmas cards.

Dargo
10-12-24, 11:27 AM
Don't know how reliable these numbers are which say that Russia have lost 600.000 men in Ukraine and I would like to know the number of Ukrainian KIA and WIA in the war.

MarkusRussia lost extreme numbers for fairly tiny tactical gains that stand in the shadow of their strategical goals. Ukraine has not got the mass so they can not afford to be so stupid, therefore do not lose that extreme numbers of men and equipment. Ukraine active defence is set up to prevent losing that kinda numbers, it still has large numbers of equipment it got by the West. Russia nearing the bottom of their stocks and age of troops are very high. Time is on Ukraine, if they can keep this up next year and attrit Russia further in this extreme way than soviet deep defence will win them this war or give them a stronger position at the table.

Russia's drive in one battlefront has cost it a staggering 1,800 combat vehiclesRussian forces have reportedly lost nearly 2,000 armored vehicles, tanks, and heavy equipment since launching its offensive in eastern Ukraine last October, an open-source researcher found. In February, Russia seized the town of Avdiivka, a longtime Ukrainian stronghold, after a monthslong campaign that contributed to "some of the highest Russian casualty rates of the war so far," according to British military intelligence. Moscow's losses — both in equipment and personnel — only continued to grow as it advanced in the western Donetsk region, an onslaught against Ukraine's defended positions that contributed to the heavy toll in September; a US official recently said that month saw the highest Russian casualties in the entire war.

In early October, two key Ukrainian frontline towns, Vuhledar and Hrodivka, fell to Russia during its advance toward Pokrovsk, a strategic city serving as a road and rail hub to supply Ukrainian military outposts. Despite the heavy equipment losses, Russian forces have yet to make concrete tactical gains in the region, only advancing about 25 miles toward the key Ukrainian city. A new report by the Institute for the Study of War (https://archive.ph/o/Wea59/https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-6-2024) said the losses amount to at least five divisions' worth of combat vehicles, citing an open-source X account (https://archive.ph/o/Wea59/https://x.com/naalsio26/status/1842341054428700784/photo/1) tracking visually confirmed Russian vehicle and equipment losses... https://archive.ph/Wea59#selection-1993.0-2041.66

mapuc
10-12-24, 03:04 PM
Maybe it's a small step, it is however a step in the correct direction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9XxJ0G-Zg

Markus

mapuc
10-12-24, 05:51 PM
In the cyberspace WWIII started month ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N26FtRCRBTU

Markus

Jimbuna
10-13-24, 06:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67EQz4ns4Sg

Jimbuna
10-13-24, 06:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0gH9UG_TJw

mapuc
10-13-24, 02:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m3-o0Eujro

Markus

Skybird
10-13-24, 06:18 PM
^ Involuntary comedy. That channel really is... dubious... and does not even get simple technical facts right. :03: And their artillery quotes are - well, not even the record-holding Japanese battleships had that callibre mounted. Does anybody think Ukraine has artillery with rounds almost twice the diameter of Yamato's and Musashi's...? LOL

Reece
10-13-24, 11:40 PM
Thanks Marc, I won't bother watching it!! :D

Jimbuna
10-14-24, 06:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA1ddBq_ZOI

Skybird
10-14-24, 08:54 AM
Ukraine has lost one third of the Kursk territory it had seized, and lost several key strongholds and logistcally relevant hotspots, it also paid with substantial own losses in mech and amroured units. I rate the plan for an offensive in Kursk as failed. Russia had comparable losses like Ukraine - but it has greater reserves, can digest lossesy easier than Ukraine.

https://www.nzz.ch/international/die-ukrainer-werden-aus-teilen-der-russischen-provinz-kursk-verdraengt-ld.1852710?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

It's like I said in August: I said that the offensive only illustrated how desperate Ukraine was to try to change the way the war was going and that their previous approach would slowly suffocate them over time, which is why they pulled this stunt. And that there was a great danger, a great risk that this plan would turn against them again in the long run. I think that this is indeed the case and is now manifesting itself as a result.

Add to the bad news this monmth that Zelesnkji's "victory plan" - old wine in new bottles - was almost "boycotted" by Western leaders and that he got only very, very little of what he started his travel around European capitols for. Its a political debacle, if you ask me. Lukewarm words and the same old empty catchphrases.


At the same time, the rifts in the Western camp are clearly deepening. I think in 2025 we will see the endgame of this war. At Ukraine's costs.

mapuc
10-14-24, 09:17 AM
I feel shame that Russia gets away with their aggressive warfare in Ukraine, who wasn't any threat to Russia.

I have no doubt that Putin will go further, if the West leave Ukraine to them self
'cause he knows now that they are in no way interested in an open conflict.

I still hope Ukraine will survive as country-Whether it's as it was before 2014 or with these 4 enklave under Russian control I can't say.

Markus

Jimbuna
10-14-24, 09:37 AM
Occupier control eastern and southeastern districts of Toretsk - OTG "Luhansk"

The Russian army is storming Toretsk with small infantry groups under the cover of artillery, mortars, and FPV drones.

According to Censor.NET, citing Suspilne TV, this was reported by Anastasiia Bobovnikova, a spokeswoman for the Luhansk regional military unit.

"The situation in Toretsk is really difficult. It is dynamic and changing all the time. The fight is literally for every entrance, every street. We can see that the eastern and southeastern districts of the city are currently occupied by the enemy, but other parts of the city are actively fighting for. We are holding back the enemy there," noted Bobovnikova.

She added that the weather also affects the conduct of battles - in particular, the Russian army is more likely to attack and use FPV drones during daylight hours. At the same time, rain, wind, and fog interfere with the work of the military and the use of drones.

"The tactic of using small infantry groups has proven to be effective. The Russians have a lot of manpower, no one counts it, the Russian army command is generally indifferent, so they can throw it endlessly. Their lives are worthless, their equipment is a little more expensive," Bobovnikova said.

Russian troops are not using equipment in this area yet, the spokeswoman clarified.

She added that fortifications have been set up near Toretsk in case the Defence Forces withdraw from the city.

Earlier, the military reported that the Russians were literally burning down Toretsk and advancing through the streets, and the situation was difficult. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3514787

Skybird
10-14-24, 09:40 AM
A lot also depends on the US government past next elections. Europe will NEVER be as militarily potent and economically powerful as the US is. The US still is the only superpower in the world, and the term "superpower" implies that there can never be two superpoowers, just one - the big power that is more powerful than all the the others. China is working on becoming the next superpower, and then will take over that role from the US, most likely. India will become increasingly potent to rival Europe, too.

If the US turns away from NATO/Europe, things will turn for the worse. Even if there would be all will and unity in the EU, Europe will never become as militarily potent. And the US - is vulnerable due to its state debts, the dollar regime is being worked on to destroy it by others.

And Harris. I think people in Europe are in for a bad wakeup call if Harris becomes president. "If", that is. Europeans tend to see the Democrats as the better friends of Europe, as Europe'S friends, and so Harris is seen as a Europe-friend, too. I think that assessment should be delayed, I think Europe has not much better to expect from Harris than from Trump. Like it is overlooked to what degree Biden did not distance himself from various Trumpian politics, but stuck to them and kept them up, too. "America first" is true for all American actors and parties. This unpleasant truth is unwelcomed in Europe, and thus gets comfortably ignored.

Not to mention that the US too has monstrous and still growing domestic problems, too. To see films on American cities and their fall, is just scary.

Ukraine will be affected by all this. And is one of the weakest actors in this all.

Jimbuna
10-14-24, 09:48 AM
^ Agreed :yep:

mapuc
10-14-24, 09:53 AM
Hehe it's funny because in livestream which is about Ukraine, chatters write things like- If you like/support Ukraine vote Harris.

Markus

Jimbuna
10-14-24, 09:59 AM
Probably because as far as I'm aware only Trump has spoken negatively regarding the US future stance on the matter.

Shadowblade
10-14-24, 10:54 AM
Are there any resources how long is training of mobilized recruits (infantry) on Ukraine side currently?

mapuc
10-14-24, 11:04 AM
Are there any resources how long is training of mobilized recruits (infantry) on Ukraine side currently?

Something with 4-6 week basic training, then to the front where they finish their training on Brigade level. How long this part of training is I don't know and as a soldier you never get enough of training.

Markus

Jimbuna
10-14-24, 12:34 PM
Russia's losses in Ukraine as of October 13: + 1 aircraft and 8 anti-aircraft systems

Ukrainian defenders continue to inflict significant losses on the Russian forces in personnel and equipment. Over the past week, both the enemy's aviation and nearly 10 anti-aircraft systems have been targeted, according to the Commander of the Ukrainian Ground Forces, Oleksandr Pavliuk.

The lieutenant general reported that from October 6 to 13, the total losses of Russian forces in Ukraine amounted to:

・approximately 8,460 personnel;

・1,662 units of the occupiers' weapons and military equipment were destroyed.

Regarding the enemy's equipment and weapons, this includes:

・52 tanks;

・197 troop-carrying AFVs;

・318 artillery systems;

・15 rocket artillery systems (MLRS);

・8 anti-aircraft systems;

・578 vehicles;

・72 units of special equipment.

In addition, the lieutenant general added that Ukrainian defenders destroyed a Russian aircraft, a helicopter, at least 6 missiles, and 414 operational-tactical level drones.

Earlier, it was reported that the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) analyzed recent statements in Russia regarding the recently downed Russian Su-34 in Ukraine and suggested that the Ukrainian Armed Forces could have struck this Russian fighter jet with an F-16 aircraft.

Additionally, the General Staff informed about the downing of a Russian helicopter by Ukrainian soldiers on October 10.

Moreover, the General Staff reported that from October 12 to 13, the Russian army lost 1,300 soldiers, and Ukrainian forces destroyed 49 troop-carrying AFVs, 29 artillery systems, and 2 anti-aircraft systems.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-s-losses-in-ukraine-as-of-october-13-1-aircraft-and-8-anti-aircraft-systems/ar-AA1sdQAr?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=fffc4730eaf94992abe7fd303061c3bb&ei=51

mapuc
10-14-24, 02:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJXvWZJF7FA

Edit
Well if Ukraine didn't have problems already and what is the West going to do about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQCxlIw_HII
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Markus

mapuc
10-14-24, 03:23 PM
"Russian forces should be in a position to launch an attack on NATO by the end of this decade at the latest," Bruno Kahl told a parliamentary committee in Berlin.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-824501

I have difficult in believing this-No way Russia can build up a military strength they had before the invasion of Ukraine, before 2030.

Markus

Jimbuna
10-15-24, 06:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji12p3v-0As

Jimbuna
10-15-24, 06:30 AM
NATO will not be intimidated by Russia's threats, Rutte says at Ukraine mission HQ

WIESBADEN, Germany (Reuters) - NATO will not be cowed by Russian threats but keep up its strong support of Kyiv, NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte said on his first visit to the alliance's Ukraine mission in Wiesbaden, set to take over the coordination of military aid from the U.S.

"The message (to Russian President Vladimir Putin) is that we will continue, that we will do what's necessary to make sure that he will not get his way, that Ukraine will prevail," he told Reuters in a joint interview with German public radio Hessischer Rundfunk on Monday.

Rutte spoke at Clay Barracks, the U.S. base hosting the headquarters of the new mission, dubbed NATO Security Assistance and Training for Ukraine (NSATU), which will gradually assume the coordination of Western military aid to Kyiv.

The move is widely seen as an effort to safeguard the aid mechanism against a possible return of NATO critic Donald Trump to the White House. Republican Trump is running against Democrat Kamala Harris in the Nov. 5 U.S. election. Diplomats, however, acknowledge that the handover of military aid coordination to NATO may have a limited effect given that the U.S. is NATO's dominant power and provides the majority of arms to Ukraine.

Speaking in one of 12 green tents that house NSATU as it is built up, Rutte earlier on Monday addressed allied troops from more than a dozen nations already working on the mission that will, at a later stage, move into a nearby hangar and be complemented by Ukrainian troops.

NSATU is expected to have a total strength of some 700 personnel, including troops stationed at NATO's military headquarters SHAPE in Belgium and at logistics hubs in Poland and Romania.

The Wiesbaden base is also home to the U.S. unit in charge of long-range missiles that Washington will deploy to Germany temporarily from 2026, to counter what both countries describe as a threat posed by Russian missiles stationed as close as Kaliningrad, some 500 kilometres (311 miles) from Berlin.

On his first visit to Germany as NATO chief, Rutte welcomed the step that has been denounced as a provocation by Russia and sparked a heated debate in Chancellor Olaf Scholz's Social-Democrat Party.

Rutte, who was prime minister of the Netherlands from 2010 until 2024, said it was crucial for NATO to have the full range of capabilities needed to deter a Russian threat.

"We are NATO. We are a defensive alliance, we are not offensive. We are not interested in capturing any part of any other country outside NATO territory," he said.

"As this democratic alliance, the strongest military alliance in world history, serving 1 billion people, we stand ready to confront any threat. We will never get intimidated by our adversaries."

U.S. President Joe Biden and Scholz announced the deployment of the missiles on the sidelines of the NATO summit in July, describing it as a stopgap solution until Germany, France and several other European countries have developed their own missiles with a similar range.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/nato-will-not-be-intimidated-by-russia-s-threats-rutte-says-at-ukraine-mission-hq/ar-AA1sgeQn?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=4896ef225b6a46c39baac92ccb866c44&ei=76

mapuc
10-15-24, 02:51 PM
Maybe this video is a joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkOiHhTmk0A

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Latest input from this Danish military expert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KebjX3KEgWQ
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Markus

Skybird
10-15-24, 03:43 PM
I have difficult in believing this-No way Russia can build up a military strength they had before the invasion of Ukraine, before 2030.
I dont say they can, but I remind of that their economy has been fully transformed to war production since then - and cannot steam on without war production.

mapuc
10-15-24, 04:59 PM
I dont say they can, but I remind of that their economy has been fully transformed to war production since then - and cannot steam on without war production.

The reason to my comment was based on following:

1. Russia is under heavy embargo-They get some stuff from China, India and Iran-But it ain't enough and it isn't technology from the West.
2. Russia and its military complex is heavily corrupted
3. The fatigue among the Russians is increasing. Another war would most likely kickstart a riot/demonstration in every Russian city=End of Putins regime.
4. Re-train 2-3½ million men to its former strength would take longer than 6 years.
In order to fight a war against NATO Russia need 50 times or more equipment and well trained soldiers.

Markus

Catfish
10-15-24, 05:07 PM
If North Korea sends soldiers (artillery and personnel) to Russia to fight Ukraine, this is the moment for the west to put some boots on the ground as well.

mapuc
10-15-24, 05:27 PM
If North Korea sends soldiers (artillery and personnel) to Russia to fight Ukraine, this is the moment for the west to put some boots on the ground as well.

Never gonna happen-The West will do anything to not cross their own red line.

Otherwise you're right-Ukraine fighting two country is unfair and NATO should put boots on the ground.

Markus

Skybird
10-15-24, 06:32 PM
1. Russia is under heavy embargo-They get some stuff from China, India and Iran-But it ain't enough and it isn't technology from the West.
So its not stuff from the West. So what? They can build badda-boom-bang stuff without it. Even drones. They outproduce Ukraine in drone numbers now, becaseu they do it ion an industril level.

2. Russia and its military complex is heavily corruptedSo what? It always was this way, it always will be this way. Hasn't stopped them from going into the CSSR, Poland, Hungary, Afghanistan, Georgien, Chechnya, Syria, Crimea, Ukraone. Even into the West itself. We already are under attack by them, it was recently reveale din German media that thy tried to blow upo airplanes in flights from Dreseden and/or Leipzig, it was by random c hance that the bombs - I forgot, either were found early, and blew up prematurely before boarding. There are so many ways Russia could wage onconventional war again st the West. And it already does. Sicne many, many years. And we still act as if it were not the case.

I make this clear in words, as far as I am concerned we are at war with Russia, and since many years, and Russia started it. One can explain why it did, and how things got there, but explanations are no excuses.

We. Are. At. War. With. Russia. By Russia's choice.

3. The fatigue among the Russians is increasing. Another war would most likely kickstart a riot/demonstration in every Russian city=End of Putins regime.No, i never saw that and still do not see that. Putin'S narrative is being believed. The war is more supported than three years ago. The regime sits safe in the saddle.

4. Re-train 2-3½ million men to its former strength would take longer than 6 years.
In order to fight a war against NATO Russia need 50 times or more equipment and well trained soldiers. Not necessarily, if it only wants to cause destruction, not conquest.

High tech societies have a big vulnerabilty: they are very vulnerable and depending. And the West has more precious constyl cities and industry than Russia, so the West has more to lose. We can afford limited war with Russia. We are inferior to their way of uncovnetional warfare. We cannot afford strategic nuclear war . It comes down to Sting: I hope that Russians love their children too. Of that I am not convinced. In any case, their famous Russian fatalistic attitude pisses me off.

Skybird
10-15-24, 06:40 PM
German language:

https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Reisner-Im-Kampf-um-Staedte-und-Doerfer-draengt-die-Zeit-article25290039.html

mapuc
10-15-24, 06:55 PM
^^ Thank you for your input Marc.
I fully agree with the fact that NATO is at war with Russia and right now NATO fight them by proxy...only a matter of time before it will go into a direct conflict.

Markus

Skybird
10-15-24, 07:09 PM
On the plane bomb incident I mentioned:

[Westfälische Nachrichten] According to the Office for the Protection of the Constitution, Germany narrowly escaped a plane crash in July when an air freight parcel caught fire, possibly initiated by Russia. It was only thanks to a lucky coincidence that the parcel caught fire on the ground at the DHL logistics center in Leipzig and not during the flight, said the President of the Office for the Protection of the Constitution, Thomas Haldenwang, during a public questioning of the German secret services in the Bundestag. Otherwise there would have been a crash.
(...)
According to dpa information, the fortunate coincidence was that the onward flight of the cargo package from the Baltic States was delayed in Leipzig. The package contained an incendiary device that ignited there and set fire to a freight container. Security circles assume that the incident is connected to Russian sabotage.
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There have been many acts of suspected Russian sabotage in Germany, including fires in factories and industrial compounds, infiltation of the IT and communication nets and attemnpts to manipulate traffic management grids, critical infrastructure, as well as many attacks on the IT systems of hospitalsand public adminstraiton offices.

Some of these Russian attacks included the potential for many deaths.

We were LUCKY so far. Just that - lucky. Not clever of especially capable - lucky. Where intel information helped in preventing the worst, usually it comes from "foreign services". The german ones have been so much castrated by legal regulations that by now they are practically impotent. Thank you, dear US services. You saved our bottoms many times by now. And at least some of us know and appreciate that.

ET2SN
10-16-24, 05:14 AM
If North Korea sends soldiers (artillery and personnel) to Russia to fight Ukraine, this is the moment for the west to put some boots on the ground as well.

I saw this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txk-MmIZqKA

and figured it fit in this thread. :hmmm:

Reece
10-16-24, 06:18 AM
Little fat boy needs a spanking!! :yep::D

Rockstar
10-16-24, 07:29 AM
On the plane bomb incident I mentioned:


… There have been many acts of suspected Russian sabotage in Germany, including fires in factories and industrial compounds, infiltation of the IT and communication nets and attemnpts to manipulate traffic management grids, critical infrastructure, as well as many attacks on the IT systems of hospitalsand public adminstraiton offices.


Read a Foreign Policy article stating there have been 11 attempts to break into Finlands water supply towers. No evidence who is doing it only speculation. It could be the war is extending beyond Ukraine’s borders.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/26/russia-sabotage-poison-finland-water-treatment/

mapuc
10-16-24, 07:31 AM
I saw this
and figured it fit in this thread. :hmmm:

It would also fit in this thread

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=230409

Markus

Jimbuna
10-16-24, 08:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnF19WvWYhU

Jimbuna
10-16-24, 09:09 AM
Ukrainian journalist, 27, who chronicled Russian occupation dies in prison

Viktoriia Roshchyna disappeared in August 2023 in a part of Ukraine now occupied by Russian forces.

It took nine months for Russian authorities to confirm the journalist had been detained. They gave no reason.

This week, her father got a terse letter from the defence ministry in Moscow informing him that Viktoriia was dead, aged 27.

The document said the journalist’s body would be returned in one of the swaps organised by Russia and Ukraine for soldiers killed on the battlefield. The death date was given as 19 September.

Again, there was no explanation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0g29w45p1o

mapuc
10-16-24, 09:49 AM
So what is your standpoint on Zelensky's peace plan ?

The plan outlined by Zelensky consists of five key points:

1. Inviting Ukraine to join Nato

2. The strengthening of Ukrainian defence against Russian forces, including getting permission from allies to use their long-range weapons on Russian territory, and the continuation of Ukraine's military operations on Russian territory to avoid creation of the "buffer zones" in Ukraine

3. Containment of Russia via a non-nuclear strategic deterrent package deployed on Ukrainian soil

4. Joint protection by the US and the EU of Ukraine's critical natural resources and joint use of their economic potential

5. For the post-war period only: replacing some US troops stationed across Europe with Ukrainian troops


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0z8gg5v14o

My standpoints.
Number 1 Not a chance-The rules are very clear a candidate must not be in a conflict with another country
Number 2. Here I say Ukraine should be given green light
Number 3. What does this mean ?
Number 4. The West may be interested in what Ukraine have in the underground. Not that much interested that they would put boots on the ground.
Number 5. Not gonna happen.

Markus

August
10-16-24, 10:41 AM
So what is your standpoint on Zelensky's peace plan ?


That's not a peace plan Markus it says right in the article it is a victory plan.


Pretty much agree with your conclusions though.


BTW I'd guess that number three means some kind of weaponry such as non nuclear ballistic missiles and perhaps some anti-missile systems like Israels Iron Dome or similar.

Dargo
10-16-24, 10:54 AM
The plan outlined by Zelenskyy consists of five key points:
Inviting Ukraine to join Nato
The strengthening of Ukrainian defence against Russian forces, including getting permission from allies to use their long-range weapons on Russian territory, and the continuation of Ukraine's military operations on Russian territory to avoid creation of the "buffer zones" in Ukraine
Containment of Russia via a non-nuclear strategic deterrent package deployed on Ukrainian soil
Joint protection by the US and the EU of Ukraine's critical natural resources and joint use of their economic potential
For the post-war period only: replacing some US troops stationed across Europe with Ukrainian troops
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte just announced that this Ukraine victory plan will be in NATO future planning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvihej_--6Y

Think the butthurt is great in the Kremlin, I can only say MH-17 Karma.

Dargo
10-16-24, 11:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYqy_olf6-Q

Jimbuna
10-16-24, 12:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysyx4UelMZE

mapuc
10-16-24, 12:53 PM
Didn't Ukraine withdraw the Abrams they got from USA away from the battlefield ? Now they will receive additional Abrams MBT according to this video clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHboBXOAexM

Markus

Dargo
10-16-24, 01:39 PM
Didn't Ukraine withdraw the Abrams they got from USA away from the battlefield ? Now they will receive additional Abrams MBT according to this video clip:
MarkusAs of September 15, roughly 2/3rds (20 out of 31) of all M1A1SA tanks in Ukraine were either destroyed, captured or disabled. The Abrams had problems in part because Russian drone warfare has made it too difficult for them to operate without detection or coming under attack. Those weapons have made it more difficult for Ukraine to protect the tanks when they are quickly detected and hunted by Russian drones or rounds.

Ukrainian M1 Abrams Tanks Get Elaborate ‘Cope Cages,’ Soviet Explosive Reactive Armor (https://www.twz.com/land/ukrainian-m1-abrams-tanks-get-elaborate-cope-cages-soviet-explosive-reactive-armor)

The U.S.supplied M1A1SA have recently been in the thick of the action, including contributing to the Ukrainian incursion into Russia’s Kursk region. Also involved have been examples of Ukraine’s other higher-end tank types, including the Challenger 2, Leopard 2, and T-80.

mapuc
10-16-24, 03:02 PM
Everyone have hopes. However hopes is one thing, while reality is an another story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzH7eG1XWrw

I would not overrule an Ukrainian win, but right now this is far from becoming true.

Markus

Reece
10-16-24, 11:46 PM
Yes it's a nice thought but unfortunately that is all it is!! :timeout:

I certainly wish them well and hope eventually Ukraine gets back their land.
Since N.Korean troops are entering the war to aid Russia I feel it only fair for western troops to join the fight on Ukraine's side.:hmmm:

Jimbuna
10-17-24, 08:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x_GQ8EjhxU

Skybird
10-17-24, 09:24 AM
Isn't that a no-brainer? In fact I am quite certain that in all secrecy they are already developing these. Not to do preparations for it would be negligent.

[FOCUS] Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is indirectly threatening to rearm his country with nuclear weapons if it cannot become a member of NATO. “What way out do we have? Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons or we will have to be in some kind of alliance,” he said at a press conference in Brussels. He added that he was not aware of any functioning alliances other than NATO.
With regard to possible resistance from the USA to Ukraine's NATO membership, Selensky explained that he had already spoken to Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump about the issue. And he thought that he had understood him in this case. Ukraine wants NATO and not nuclear weapons, he emphasized.

Selensky expressed no understanding for American concerns that inviting Ukraine to join NATO could inadvertently draw the United States into a war. “An invitation is a pre-emptive step to show that it is not Putin who is changing the world,” he said, referring to the Russian president's war policy.

Selensky explained the idea of a possible nuclear rearmament of Ukraine with the failure of the so-called Budapest Memorandum from 1994, in which Ukraine committed to handing over the Soviet nuclear weapons stored on its territory to Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union. In return, the nuclear weapons states Russia, the USA and Great Britain confirmed that they would respect Ukraine's independence and borders and would not threaten the country with nuclear weapons.

However, recent years have shown that the document did not function as a security guarantee. Since Russia's annexation of the Ukrainian Black Sea peninsula of Crimea, the topic of nuclear rearmament has therefore repeatedly come up in the Ukrainian debate. Shortly before the Russian invasion in 2022, Zelensky also hinted during an appearance at the Munich Security Conference that his country could consider nuclear rearmament.
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A NATO membership is ruled out for me as long as the war is going on. It would brinn NATO into open war with Russia immediartely, and it would violates NATO's own statutes. The slow resupplying with ammo and weapons must dramatically improve, however, and the weapons range limitation has to be scrapped immediately.

Rockstar
10-17-24, 11:03 AM
The mighty YouTube algorithm dropped this commentator in my feed. Pretty good commentary, as I always believed the goal was never a quick expulsion of Russian troops from Ukraine rather a long term goal to break Russia.

Sorry if the video has been posted already, kinda hard to keep up sometimes.

https://youtu.be/0B82wbvRK7c

Dargo
10-17-24, 12:36 PM
The Russian army is facing two problems: a shortage of ammunition and a surplus of ‘dedushki’, or grandpasRussia is forced to send increasingly older military personnel to Ukraine. The average age of recruits is around 50. Younger colleagues voice criticism. ‘They can't cope.’ There are two main problems facing the Russian army: a shortage of ammunition and a surplus of dedushki, or grandpas. This is what a Russian parliamentarian who regularly travels to the frontline tells independent Russian news platform Vjorstka. Sources within the army and Moscow city hall also confirmed to the medium that the age of soldiers at the front has been significantly higher than before since this year.

According to the parliamentarian, there is a steady increase of ‘grandfathers’ at the front, as soldiers aged 50 or older are called. These are words confirmed by a source at the Moscow municipality, which states, based on recruitment statistics, that the age of new recruits from the capital is on the rise. Early this year it was around 40, but now the men leaving for the front are 50 on average. ‘There are even sixtysomethings among them,’ he says. There are also reports from the occupied territories themselves that ‘grandpas’ are joining the ranks at the front in increasing numbers. A soldier fighting in the Donetsk region of Ukraine tells Vjorstka that his battalion has lost roughly five hundred men since the beginning of the summer because they were wounded or killed. ‘They send us replacements. But half are over 50.’

In a video he himself comments on, another soldier tells a similar story. The footage shows a 62-year-old man in full military dress trudging through the snow as if he had just had hip surgery. ‘There are only old men going to war,’ the accompanying criticism echoes. ‘This is the kind of fighters they are recruiting for us.’ According to all interviewees, the older soldiers are not fit for combat because of their physical condition. The average army outfit can easily weigh tens of kilos. With that weight on their backs, soldiers have to lug for kilometres, move quickly to change combat positions or dig trenches. ‘They can't cope,’ concludes one of the younger soldiers in a written message to Vjorstka. ‘They are all sick. Either their legs hurt, or their heads. They are slow. They are mowed down.’

That the Kremlin is forced to deploy older and older recruits suggests that the Russian army is increasingly facing a personnel shortage. That the enthusiasm for entering the army among young men is not great was already evident in September 2022, when Putin declared a partial mobilisation and tens of thousands of men fled Russia. Putin ordered a month ago, for the third time since the start of the war, that the Russian armed forces should bolster its ranks with 180,000 more men. It is unclear where those soldiers are to come from. Not surprisingly, the Kremlin is also trying to entice men with bonuses: in numerous regions, recruits receive signing bonuses of several thousand euros if they take up arms. Possibly it is a reason for the dedushki to put their lives on the line. Because there is no doubt that more older men are now being killed as well, according to data from the Russian independent medium Mediazona, which in collaboration with the BBC counts Russian deaths in Ukraine based on public data. This year alone, at least 2475 men aged 45 or over died: about half of all soldiers killed whose age could be confirmed.

https://www.demorgen.be/oorlog-in-oekraine/het-russische-leger-kampt-met-twee-problemen-een-tekort-aan-munitie-en-een-overschot-aan-dedoesjki-oftewel-opa-s~b2231b2d/

Jimbuna
10-17-24, 12:42 PM
Netherlands to allocate €271 million for artillery shells for Ukraine

Dutch Prime Minister Dick Schoof said that the Netherlands will allocate 271 million euros for large-caliber artillery shells for Ukraine.

He wrote about this on the social network X, Censor.NET reports.

"Denmark, the Czech Republic and the Netherlands are committed to jointly supporting Ukraine in the fight against Russian aggression. A year ago we launched an initiative to supply ammunition, and today we are taking the next important step. We will supply more large-caliber artillery ammunition. The Netherlands will allocate 271 million euros for artillery shells. By doing so, we will help Ukraine with the supply of ammunition in 2025 and encourage the European defense industry to further expand," the statement said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3515424

Norway will provide Ukraine with six F-16s and help strengthen Ukrainian air defense - Umierov

During the NATO-Ukraine Council, Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umierov held bilateral talks with Norwegian Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram.

According to Censor.NET, this is stated in a statement by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

"We discussed the current situation at the front and our needs, in particular in long-range weapons. We reached specific agreements on strengthening our air defense. A separate focus is the aviation component. In particular, strengthening our capabilities with F16 fighters," said the head of the Ukrainian defense ministry.

Norway was also invited to join the Danish model of direct financing of Ukrainian defense companies.

"Separately, I offered Norway to take "patronage" over one of the AFU brigades, similar to France's, which includes training and manning. New announcements are coming soon," Umierov added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3515413

Dargo
10-17-24, 02:28 PM
Netherlands Acquires Six DITA Howitzers for Ukraine’s DefenseThe Netherlands has ordered 6 new 155 mm DITA self-propelled howitzers from the Czech Republic for Ukraine. This is reported on the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Netherlands (https://www.defensie.nl/actueel/nieuws/2024/10/17/nederland-bestelt-in-tsjechie-meer-artilleriegranaten-en-pantserhouwitsers-voor-oekraine). The Dutch Defense Minister announced the new aid for Ukraine during a meeting of NATO defense ministers in Brussels. In addition, the Minister also stated that the previous 9 ordered DITA systems had already been delivered to Ukraine this summer.

“Ukraine has a huge need for weapons and ammunition. Russia is deploying a huge number of personnel to the battlefield. We must continue to help Ukraine defend itself. That’s why, together with the Czech Republic and Denmark, we are working hard to deliver armored howitzers and ammunition next year,” said the Defense Minister, Ruben Brekelmans. https://mil.in.ua/en/news/netherlands-acquires-six-dita-howitzers-for-ukraine-s-defense/Orban said that the Victory Plan scares him and called on Scholz and Macron to start talks with Russia :DHungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has said that the Victory Plan presented by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to the Ukrainian parliament on 16 October scares him. ‘What he outlined yesterday in the Ukrainian parliament is more than frightening. I am one of those who call on the European Union to change its current strategy,’ Orban wrote, Censor.NET reports citing LigaBusinessInform.

According to him, the EU ‘entered this war with a poorly organised, poorly executed strategy based on poor calculations’. The Hungarian prime minister believes that the EU should change its war strategy to a peaceful strategy, and for this purpose, the bloc should seek a ceasefire in Ukraine and negotiations. He urged German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron to ‘start negotiations with the Russians as soon as possible on behalf of the entire European Union so that we can find a way out of this situation’. Source: https://censor.net/ua/n3515448

Skybird
10-17-24, 03:36 PM
Netherlands to allocate €271 million for artillery shells for Ukraine
The price of standard 155mm ammunition has quadrupled since pre-war times and is now around 8000 euros per round. 271 million is therefore equivalent to about 34,000 rounds of standard 155mm ammunition.

Current estimates of Ukraine's daily consumption of 155mm rounds range from 2000 to 6000, depending on the intensity of fighting on any given day.

271 million would therefore pay for 6 to 17 days.

I am not criticising the Netherlands. I just want to reiterate how small the total amount Ukraine is actually receiving is. This only delays Ukraine's defeat - it does not prevent Russia from winning.

Russia is currently firing 10-16 thousand heavy artillery shells a day alone, and even more on days of extremely intense fighting.

mapuc
10-17-24, 03:45 PM
The price of standard 155mm ammunition has quadrupled since pre-war times and is now around 8000 euros per round. 271 million is therefore equivalent to about 34,000 rounds of standard 155mm ammunition.

Current estimates of Ukraine's daily consumption of 155mm rounds range from 2000 to 6000, depending on the intensity of fighting on any given day.

271 million would therefore pay for 6 to 17 days.

I am not criticising the Netherlands. I just want to reiterate how small the total amount Ukraine is actually receiving is. This only delays Ukraine's defeat - it does not prevent Russia from winning.

Russia is currently firing 10-16 thousand heavy artillery shells a day alone, and even more on days of extremely intense fighting.

...and Russia have their problems too-Their factory can't keep up with the ammo production-The ammo they get from NK and Iran is far from enough.

It will only be a matter of time when Russian artillery has to decrease their amount of daily firing shells.

If I remember correctly it was said in the news here in Denmark some month ago, that Russian weapon factory could produce was it 6 or 8.000 rounds per day.

Markus

Skybird
10-17-24, 03:57 PM
^ Two things.


For months and years we have been told that Russia could not do this, could not keep up. And yet, to this day, they continue to advance and they can do so very well.

For a long time now we have been told that Ukraine has blown up this arsenal and that refinery, this logistic hot spot and that military command centre, this armoured column here and that troops agglomeration there. And that Russian finances are about to collapse. Has that had any effect on the Russian advance, let alone their war effort?

The Ukrainians do not have what it takes to deliver strategic blows that are so heavy-weighted that they would really force Russia to change its war ambitions. This lack of punch is the problem, and it can be explained. The term "shooting for the gallery" comes to mind. Nice epee fencing by Ukraine, it really knows the ballet steps. What is needed are blows into the Russian production and industry and energy sector and so forth - not with an epee but the two-handed war hammer or a morning star.

Right the kind of things the West does prevent ukraine to carry out. I cannot imagine how frustrated Selensky must be. His recent PR tour was an utmost desaster for him and Ukraine. He got practically - nothing of what he demanded most.

mapuc
10-17-24, 04:33 PM
^ Two things.


For months and years we have been told that Russia could not do this, could not keep up. And yet, to this day, they continue to advance and they can do so very well.

For a long time now we have been told that Ukraine has blown up this arsenal and that refinery, this logistic hot spot and that military command centre, this armoured column here and that troops agglomeration there. And that Russian finances are about to collapse. Has that had any effect on the Russian advance, let alone their war effort?

The Ukrainians do not have what it takes to deliver strategic blows that are so heavy-weighted that they would really force Russia to change its war ambitions. This lack of punch is the problem, and it can be explained. The term "shooting for the gallery" comes to mind. Nice epee fencing by Ukraine, it really knows the ballet steps. What is needed are blows into the Russian production and industry and energy sector and so forth - not with an epee but the two-handed war hammer or a morning star.

Right the kind of things the West does prevent ukraine to carry out. I cannot imagine how frustrated Selensky must be. His recent PR tour was an utmost desaster for him and Ukraine. He got practically - nothing of what he demanded most.

I didn't say the Russian weren't advancing, 'cause they are even if it's only a few meters per day, they are advancing. It is their daily use of ammo and weapons that cost Russia-The Russian factories can't keep up with amount being used and/or destroyed. This is why I say it would only be a matter of time before they have to decrease their daily use of 152 mm shells, just like Ukraine have too.

Otherwise I agree with you on the Ukraine matter.

Markus

Catfish
10-18-24, 04:29 AM
[...]
For months and years we have been told that Russia Ukraine could not do this, could not keep up. And yet, to this day, they continue to advance defend and they can do so very well.
Corrected this for you ..
Yes I know what you mean, but you are being defeatist and negative in a way Putin sure must be proud of you.
"Soaring" seems to mean you feel above all else and let yourself down from time to time to comment. Understanding this does not mean to like it ;)

[...]
The Ukrainians do not have what it takes to deliver strategic blows that are so heavy-weighted that they would really force Russia to change its war ambitions. This lack of punch is the problem, and it can be explained. The term "shooting for the gallery" comes to mind. Nice epee fencing by Ukraine, it really knows the ballet steps. What is needed are blows into the Russian production and industry and energy sector and so forth - not with an epee but the two-handed war hammer or a morning star.

I cannot imagine how frustrated Selensky must be. His recent PR tour was an utmost desaster for him and Ukraine. He got practically - nothing of what he demanded most.
But I fully agree with the above, the west/we is not helping. Indeed we have the chuzpe to forbid the fighting ukrainians to strike and effectively hit Putin's war logistics :damn:

Two questions:
1. When Ukraine's nuclear arsenal was withdrawn into what the former soviet union had become, wasn't there a guarantee by Russia and the West that they would care and defend in case of an attack against Ukraine?
What happened to this guarantee? (Poland and England after WW2 comes to mind),
2. When NATO does neither help nor gives any sign of accepting Ukraine in its rows, how are chances that Ukraine develops it own nuclear arsenal?

mapuc
10-18-24, 05:09 AM
Corrected this for you ..
Yes I know what you mean, but you are being defeatist and negative in a way Putin sure must be proud of you.
"Soaring" seems to mean you feel above all else and let yourself down from time to time to comment. Understanding this does not mean to like it ;)


But I fully agree with the above, the west/we is not helping. Indeed we have the chuzpe to forbid the fighting ukrainians to strike and effectively hit Putin's war logistics :damn:

Two questions:
1. When Ukraine's nuclear arsenal was withdrawn into what the former soviet union had become, wasn't there a guarantee by Russia and the West that they would care and defend in case of an attack against Ukraine?
What happened to this guarantee? (Poland and England after WW2 comes to mind),
2. When NATO does neither help nor gives any sign of accepting Ukraine in its rows, how are chances that Ukraine develops it own nuclear arsenal?

1- Yes you can read about it in the Budapest Memorandum
2- This would take decades to develop.

Markus

Jimbuna
10-18-24, 06:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3zczCFgD2E

Jimbuna
10-18-24, 06:20 AM
There are no opponents of Ukraine joining NATO - Umerov

There were no opponents of joining NATO during the discussions regarding the invitation of Ukraine to the Alliance.

This was stated by Defense Minister Rustem Umerov after meetings with the defense ministers of NATO member countries, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform.

"I will say very honestly: there was no question. I thought that there would be a question of whether someone wants or does not want - there is no such thing. Everyone wants Ukraine to be in NATO. The bigger question was how can we help now and how quickly can we do it. These are internal questions, they will speak internally. But I didn't hear anything against it in the hall, by feeling," he said.

Umyerov said that the issue of Ukraine's accession to NATO has always been considered out of time, but Ukraine should advance its action plan.

"We must live according to our plan. We want to be a country in NATO, a country in the European Union, and I hope that in the future we will also become a country of the G20," the minister concluded. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3515548

Scholz did not support central points of Zelenskyy’s "Victory Plan" due to fears of further escalation of war

The Federal Chancellor of Germany criticized the victory plan presented by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the EU summit in Brussels.

As Censor.NET informs, this is reported by Suddeutsche Zeitung.

The chancellor justified his position with fears of further escalation. Scholz said that he is responsible for ensuring that the war between Russia and Ukraine does not become a war between Russia and NATO.

He added that nothing would change his decision to deny Kyiv the supply of Taurus cruise missiles.

"I don't think such supply is right, and it will remain that way," Scholz said.

He also intends to block the quick invitation of Ukraine to NATO. He referred to the resolution of the last NATO summit in Washington when the Alliance decided on the invitation - then the USA and Germany were against it. The resolution emphasized that an invitation to NATO can be given only after all allies agree to it and all the conditions of admission are met. Such conditions include reforms in the fields of democracy, economy, and security. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3515544

Skybird
10-18-24, 07:51 AM
Scholz did not support central points of Zelenskyy’s "Victory Plan" due to fears of further escalation of war


https://i.postimg.cc/13yL5hFk/Unbenannt2.png (https://postimages.org/)

Skybird
10-18-24, 07:55 AM
2- This would take decades to develop.

Markus
They must not do it from scratch, but can fall back on past designs that they just modify. A simple free falling nuclear bomb to be dropped form an airplane - or being transported in a suitcase... - can be done quite fast if you have weapon-ready plutonium. Difficult are ballistic missiles as carriers. I seem to recall Ukraine was a powerhouse of nuclear weapons production in the USSR. And nuclear reactors they have until today.
Another option is nuclear artillery grenades. But i have no idea whether these are simple or difficult to do. These existed during the cold war for sure.

mapuc
10-18-24, 09:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIRTng2DVRY

Markus

Jimbuna
10-18-24, 11:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IApQnD78UIo

Skybird
10-18-24, 11:26 AM
How revealing and embarassing! This time Russia did Germany a service. Germany will not appreciate it, though.

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/deutschland/geheimdossiers-veroeffentlicht-scholz-noch-der-beste-unter-den-boesen-brisante-russen-dokumente-aufgetaucht_id_260406221.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Beware the German politicians who get compliments from Russia.

Jimbuna
10-18-24, 11:30 AM
Ukraine has agreed with US to supply new aid packages every two - three weeks, - Zelenskyy

Ukraine's agreement with the United States to supply new aid packages every two-three weeks is part of the "Victory Plan".

This was announced by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in an interview with a telethon, Censor.NET reports citing LigaBusinessInform.

Zelenskyy noted that he had agreed on this with President Joe Biden during a telephone conversation on October 16. As a result of the same call, a $425 million aid package was announced.

The Ukrainian leader noted that under the agreements, Ukraine will now receive aid packages "very quickly, every two - three weeks" to strengthen its army.

"I won't tell you the details, because I have no right to do so, but you will see them later. I think the packages will be large: from $500 million to $750 million. And I think it will be a fairly quick process," the president added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3515598

Dargo
10-18-24, 12:06 PM
They must not do it from scratch, but can fall back on past designs that they just modify. A simple free falling nuclear bomb to be dropped form an airplane - or being transported in a suitcase... - can be done quite fast if you have weapon-ready plutonium. Difficult are ballistic missiles as carriers. I seem to recall Ukraine was a powerhouse of nuclear weapons production in the USSR. And nuclear reactors they have until today.
Another option is nuclear artillery grenades. But i have no idea whether these are simple or difficult to do. These existed during the cold war for sure.The former Soviet Union had its nuclear program expanded to only four of its republics: Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Ukraine. Chernobyl was one of the plants that could make nuclear material for nukes. Ukraine has actually an advanced nuclear engineering sector and a machinery sector from soviet times. Also, unlike other countries has experience with rocket manufacturing, so even the weapon carriers wouldn’t be a problem. The only problem could be, do they know how to detonate a nuclear bomb, every country has other ways for that do not know Ukraine has the Soviet way to start the nuclear explosion. I do not think Ukraine wants to make nuclear weapons, Zelenskyy used this to make clear that Ukraine needs to be in NATO.

Dargo
10-18-24, 12:52 PM
For everyone that believes that "Russia is doing great".
The liquid reserves of Russian National Wealth Fund are exhausted by more than 60%.
Russia has to sell oil for rupees to India. Rupees that it tries to exchange for goods but cannot in this extent.
China does not want "dirty yuans" coming from Russia, and most banks stop transactions with Russia.
North-Korea is supplying up to 70% of Russian shells and missiles.
Economy is heading to stagflation with huge lack of manpower and just ca 2% unemployment rate.
Russia is asking Kazakhstan to operate Russian domestic airlines, as there are no planes left.
Russia is out of manpower that it has to go to North-Korea for canon fodder.
I could go on and on...

mapuc
10-18-24, 02:21 PM
It's not going great for the Ukrainian either.

They have their problems too.

One of them, which was told in the news some weeks ago, was the lack of fresh boots to the front. There was volunteers but this was not enough.

Ukraine does not have enough AA or AAA to cover most of the sky over Ukraine.

Ukraine have economical problems too-If it wasn't for the billions of Euros and Dollars being posted into the Ukrainian society-Its economy would collapse faster than we may think.

The only thing that keeps Ukraines head above the waterline is the money, ammo, weapon and first aid supply from the West.

Markus

Dargo
10-18-24, 02:31 PM
It's not going great for the Ukrainian either.

They have their problems too.

One of them, which was told in the news some weeks ago, was the lack of fresh boots to the front. There was volunteers but this was not enough.

Ukraine does not have enough AA or AAA to cover most of the sky over Ukraine.

Ukraine have economical problems too-If it wasn't for the billions of Euros and Dollars being posted into the Ukrainian society-Its economy would collapse faster than we may think.

The only thing that keeps Ukraines head above the waterline is the money, ammo, weapon and first aid supply from the West.

MarkusI still place my bet on Ukraine than gamble my money on a Russia, Iran, North Korea pariah bet. Failed to take Ukraine after its planned 3 day invasion, increased NATO borders because of their FAILED invasion and after nearly 3 years of fighting can’t even take the Donetsk Oblast. Meanwhile, begging pariah states Iran and North Korea for support.

mapuc
10-18-24, 02:48 PM
I still place my bet on Ukraine than gamble my money on a Russia, Iran, North Korea pariah bet.

So do I Dargo. I'm a strong supporter of Ukraine and I hope they will win this war.

My post was a reply to your comment about the problems Russia had.

Edit
We should threaten Russia with boots on the ground if NK or Iran send soldiers to fight in Ukraine.
End edit

Markus

Skybird
10-18-24, 03:04 PM
For everyone that believes that "Russia is doing great".

The liquid reserves of Russian National Wealth Fund are exhausted by more than 60%.
Russia has to sell oil for rupees to India. Rupees that it tries to exchange for goods but cannot in this extent.
China does not want "dirty yuans" coming from Russia, and most banks stop transactions with Russia.
North-Korea is supplying up to 70% of Russian shells and missiles.
Economy is heading to stagflation with huge lack of manpower and just ca 2% unemployment rate.
Russia is asking Kazakhstan to operate Russian domestic airlines, as there are no planes left.
Russia is out of manpower that it has to go to North-Korea for canon fodder.

I could go on and on...
Who said it does "great"? And if you meant me, I indicated many times: Ukraine so far scores no hits that influence the Russian handling of the war, the "successes" of Ukraine are claimed ot be big, but in fact are much less effective than the propaganda says, they do not influence Russia on the strategic level.


This is also what Colonel Reisner over and over reorterated, many many times. And what I meant when saying "one swallow does not make a summer". A single lonely high tehc strike with ATACMS occassionally - MEANS ALMOST NOTHUNG. You must do these sort of strikes many times a day, day for day, over many weeks. THEN it will make a difference. And the West makes sure that the Ukraine cannot do this.



And what I say since three years: that Russian economy will pay the price and that society will pay the price as well. Hekc , fo coruse ti will! I never denied that it will. But in such long term perspectives only that these backfiring consequences are unlikely to play a role within the timeframe of the active war, which means for Ukraine and its hopes to "win" this war these longterm effects are irrelevant. They do not fit into the timeframe of the war being fought NOW.



I agree, longterm outlook for society and economy in Russia is not good. But for the war this means NOTHING.



And those soldiers surviving it will form the basis of the future russian army: experienced, battle-hardened, brutalised, veterans. In a way, by basic mentality, the best warriors/destroyers you can wish for: brutal to the max, completely disinhibited, animalised, uncaring for their own life, willing to do every act of barbary and sadism imaginable. Definitely no wellmannered gentlemen in uniforms.

mapuc
10-18-24, 03:15 PM
As he says in the beginning of this video clip. Russia and its allied will do anything to win the war-While the West is doing nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1b47BYU5KM

Markus

Dargo
10-18-24, 03:26 PM
As he says in the beginning of this video clip. Russia and its allied will do anything to win the war-While the West is doing nothing.

MarkusNorth Koreans must fight with the same soviet shyte equpment, doctrine that worked so swell for Russia since 3 years, and they have not the war experience, so I do not give them long certainly with winter coming at least no longer live than current Russian meat.

mapuc
10-18-24, 03:30 PM
North Koreans must fight with the same soviet shyte equpment, doctrine that worked so swell for Russia since 3 years, and they have not the war experience, so I do not give them long certainly with winter coming at least no longer live than current Russian meat.

Off course North Korea will be nothing than a new type of meat to the meatgrinder in Ukraine.

Markus

Dargo
10-18-24, 03:34 PM
[QUOTE=Skybird;2929733]Who said it does "great"? And if you meant me, I indicated many times: Ukraine so far scores no hits that influence the Russian handling of the war, the "successes" of Ukraine are claimed ot be big, but in fact are much less effective than the propaganda says, they do not influence Russia on the strategic level.


This is also what Colonel Reisner over and over reorterated, many many times. And what I meant when saying "one swallow does not make a summer". A single lonely high tehc strike with ATACMS occassionally - MEANS ALMOST NOTHUNG. You must do these sort of strikes many times a day, day for day, over many weeks. THEN it will make a difference. And the West makes sure that the Ukraine cannot do this.



And what I say since three years: that Russian economy will pay the price and that society will pay the price as well. Hekc , fo coruse ti will! I never denied that it will. But in such long term perspectives only that these backfiring consequences are unlikely to play a role with

mapuc
10-18-24, 04:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwTG6Aew3nU

Markus

Skybird
10-18-24, 05:33 PM
In Colonel Reisner's words:

"Here is a spectacular exmaple: the attack on the Russian depot of Toropetz where it is believed that over 30,000 tons of ammunition and a total of 750,000 artillery shells were destroyed. Even though these events are spectacular, they still do not have a saturating effect. That means you would need a lot more of these attacks to actually produce measurable results on the front. "

Switch on subtitles and use English translation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjHQHoamRzw

And also pay attention to the last minute, his remarks that really mark a very worrying situation in the West, at least in Europe, regarding the total stagnation in developing drones and especially drone defences. This is a threat that Russia now masters and projects - and that the European forces and I think regarding relevant quantities also the US forces are currently not capable to counter, or to compete with. Unfortunately I think this new weapon is deciding the forseeable future battles. We got a first taste of this during Ukraines first summer offensive when Western tanks and Leopards got immediately recognized when they moved out, and got mowed down like grass by artillery and drones, and were chased by these into the minefields that cost them fourther. I think we have dangerous illusions on that NATO ground forces are superior to Russian ground forces in case of a big war. I think the danger is much, much bigger. And many historians have pointed out that militaries are very vulnerable to one and the same mistake being done over and over again: to think that after they won a war, the next war would be fought with means and technologies of the previous one, turning it into a win as well. And how often was this wrong, at a terrible cost!

Wars of attrition primarily need big numbers, not necessarily technological superiority. The Western strategy here is absolutely and very, very dangerously wrong.

And nobody wants to hear this. Especially, but by far not only, in Germany.

Reisner remains to be the by far most competent, short, sharp and sober explainer of the war events in the German-tongued realm, and I also do not know anyone in English who does it as competently and sober like he does. Most of the others just dream, fanmtasize, do propaganda tp boost morale, and babble wildly (interestingly many of these by now have fallen silent: they obviously were wrong too often and either get no more invited, or do not trust their own assessments anymore). Respect and thanks, Colonel! You would have made a brilliant Vulcan.

Dargo
10-18-24, 05:40 PM
Public Perception of the War: Shifting from Repression to AwarenessBased on data from a multi-stage study, sociologist Elena Koneva traces the evolution of attitudes toward the war from Russia’s invasion in February 2022 through Ukraine’s raid into Kursk Region in August 2024.

The Russia-Ukraine war has turned into a prolonged calamity from which there seems to be no escape and no chance to effect its end. Last year was marked by a routinization and marginalization of the war. Awareness of the fighting in Ukraine was psychologically suppressed. This occurred for two reasons: one, people felt afraid and helpless, and, two, the war was happening “at a distance.” Everyday life stabilized, allowing people to not think or talk about the war all the time... https://russiapost.info/society/public_perception

mapuc
10-18-24, 06:37 PM
This General seems to have an another view on the war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmbqpB1THfw

Markus

Skybird
10-18-24, 07:53 PM
oh look, the video above was recorded twice, but here in English. no need for translated subtitles.

https://youtu.be/Bv2fjrJt3LU?si=0O31Uyrf9z14S9iZ

August
10-18-24, 08:02 PM
I wouldn't put much stock in the opinions of a mere colonel from a nation that hasn't fought a war in 100 years.

Gorpet
10-18-24, 09:50 PM
In Colonel Reisner's words:

"Here is a spectacular exmaple: the attack on the Russian depot of Toropetz where it is believed that over 30,000 tons of ammunition and a total of 750,000 artillery shells were destroyed. Even though these events are spectacular, they still do not have a saturating effect. That means you would need a lot more of these attacks to actually produce measurable results on the front. "

Switch on subtitles and use English translation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjHQHoamRzw

And also pay attention to the last minute, his remarks that really mark a very worrying situation in the West, at least in Europe, regarding the total stagnation in developing drones and especially drone defences. This is a threat that Russia now masters and projects - and that the European forces and I think regarding relevant quantities also the US forces are currently not capable to counter, or to compete with. Unfortunately I think this new weapon is deciding the forseeable future battles. We got a first taste of this during Ukraines first summer offensive when Western tanks and Leopards got immediately recognized when they moved out, and got mowed down like grass by artillery and drones, and were chased by these into the minefields that cost them fourther. I think we have dangerous illusions on that NATO ground forces are superior to Russian ground forces in case of a big war. I think the danger is much, much bigger. And many historians have pointed out that militaries are very vulnerable to one and the same mistake being done over and over again: to think that after they won a war, the next war would be fought with means and technologies of the previous one, turning it into a win as well. And how often was this wrong, at a terrible cost!

Wars of attrition primarily need big numbers, not necessarily technological superiority. The Western strategy here is absolutely and very, very dangerously wrong.

And nobody wants to hear this. Especially, but by far not only, in Germany.

Reisner remains to be the by far most competent, short, sharp and sober explainer of the war events in the German-tongued realm, and I also do not know anyone in English who does it as competently and sober like he does. Most of the others just dream, fanmtasize, do propaganda tp boost morale, and babble wildly (interestingly many of these by now have fallen silent: they obviously were wrong too often and either get no more invited, or do not trust their own assessments anymore). Respect and thanks, Colonel! You would have made a brilliant Vulcan.

Your running out of time, :salute:

ET2SN
10-19-24, 04:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIjqVt1Dyeg


:hmmm:

Jimbuna
10-19-24, 05:31 AM
Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war - about 677,180 people (+1,380 per day), 9,035 tanks, 19,548 artillery systems, 18,072 armored combat vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the Ukrainian Defence Forces have eliminated 677,180 Russian invaders.

This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff.

As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 19.10.24 are approximately:

personnel - about 677180 (+1380) people,

tanks - 9035 (+8) units,

armored combat vehicles - 18072 (+19) units,

artillery systems - 19548 (+15) units,

MLRS - 1232 (+0) units,

air defense systems - 978 (+0) units,

aircraft - 369 (+0) units,

helicopters - 329 (+0) units,

Operational and tactical level UAVs - 17230 (+78),

cruise missiles - 2623 (+3),

ships/boats - 28 (+0) units,

submarines - 1 (+0) units,

automotive equipment and tankers - 26946 (+38) units,

special equipment - 3473 (+25) Source: https://censor.net/en/p3515679

Skybird
10-19-24, 07:56 AM
I wouldn't put much stock in the opinions of a mere colonel from a nation that hasn't fought a war in 100 years.
Better listen to generals and politicians who in the past decades turned practically each of their military adventures based on lies into a strategic desaster that crippled the region it took place in. Vietnam. Saddamistan 92. Iraq 03. Afghanistan 2000s.

Reisner btw is also an academical historian with degrees and a good reputation for the fields he publishes in, both studies and books.

The US and Australian ex-generals I so far heard in the media - all seem to have fallen silent, and I rightfully pointed out their illusional assessments already two years ago. They messed their judgements and expectations up. Almost completely. And they let themselvesgetting paid well for it.

Jimbuna
10-19-24, 08:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=180Htb2Fpik

mapuc
10-19-24, 08:28 AM
No doubt that Reisner and other military expert know what they are taking about. Do we ordinary have the skills in military knowhow to reject or accept a statement around the war in Ukraine ?

I can't, far from it-I chose the expert who are more positive in their description on the Ukrainian side. They may be wrong in the analyzing of the battlefield-In the end of the war-We will know which expert was closest to the truth.

Regarding NK troops in Ukraine. So far it is only 1500 special trained commandos who have been sent to Russia in the end this number should be around 20.000 special trained commandos.

I say it's only the beginning-In a 1-1½ years from now there will ten thousands of NK troops fighting in Ukraine and perhaps together with Iranian troops too.

Markus

Jimbuna
10-19-24, 08:47 AM
Netherlands to supply Ukraine with reconnaissance drones worth more than 42 million euros

The Dutch Ministry of Defense is cooperating with DeltaQuad to supply Ukraine with reconnaissance drones. The Dutch Ministry of Defense will purchase UAVs worth 42.6 million euros from the company.

This is reported on the official website of the Ministry of Defense of the Netherlands, Censor.NET reports.

As noted, this purchase will be the first concrete step in the implementation of the Action Plan for the supply of drones, which Minister Ruben Brekelmans recently announced during his visit to Ukraine.

The drones to be purchased by the Netherlands for Ukraine are reportedly used for real-time information from the battlefield, intelligence gathering, and surveillance.

The purchase of these drones is part of a €400 million allocation, of which €200 million will be used to purchase drones from Dutch industry.

This purchase is also an incentive to further expand the drone industry in the Netherlands.

According to Brekelmans, this order with DeltaQuad is "an important and concrete step in our action plan."

"Ukraine needs modern drones that can be delivered in the shortest possible time. It is good that our industry can contribute to this," he added.

For his part, DeltaQuad CEO Sander Smets noted that this will be an important step in the development of the drone industry, where international innovation and rapid cooperation between the military, politicians and national industry are essential.

At the same time, for reasons of operational security, no information is provided on the number, types, and delivery schedules of drones. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3515714

mapuc
10-19-24, 11:01 AM
Yet another doomsday prediction on the Russian economy. I think they have hopes Russian economy will collapse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epa4IccEVtM

Markus

Jimbuna
10-19-24, 11:42 AM
Currently, 20 thousand mobilized persons are undergoing training at same time, previously it was 35 thousand - General Staff

At present, more than 20,000 mobilized people are simultaneously undergoing training in the training centers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. A few months ago, this figure was almost 35,000.

This was announced at a briefing by Vasyl Rumak, head of the training department at the training centers of the Main Department of Doctrine and Training of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine,Ukrinform reports, Censor.NET informs.

"Now the Armed Forces have a powerful network of training centers. ...There are more than 25 training facilities, each with its own specifics. We have created them in such a way that almost every type of military service has its own training center, and military specialists are trained there for their needs. This allowed military authorities to influence the content and quality of training. Therefore, the volumes are now very large, first of all, we are talking about the number of people - more than 20 thousand people are training at the same time," Rumak said.

At the same time, he noted that a few months ago this figure reached almost 35 thousand.

The representative of the General Staff said that the training process is constantly being improved.

According to him, before the start of a full-scale war, the emphasis in training was on the ability of a soldier to shoot accurately at moving targets. Now, according to Rumak, they are practicing close combat, clearing trenches, shooting from cover, shooting from the left-right shoulder with a quick change, shooting from awkward positions, etc.

He added that the training of one mobilized soldier costs the state about 100 thousand hryvnias, which includes salary, clothing and medical support, fuel, ammunition, etc. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3515739

mapuc
10-19-24, 12:58 PM
Good they can develop their own ballistic missiles, so they can bomb Russian military and factory complex deep inside Russia

Here a video should have been posted, but it is not the one I watched and copied.
titled 'This Ukraine's Homemade weapon could end the war'

Markus

mapuc
10-19-24, 02:00 PM
This article in a Danish newspaper was to interesting not to translate and post it here-The article say that China is more involved than admitted.

- It would probably hardly have happened without China's tacit acceptance, let me put it this way. So China is deeply involved in the war as well, and it's not just supporting the Russians so that their military industry becomes stronger. So we definitely have to take that very seriously and act on it.

https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/samfund/nordkoreanske-tropper-i-rusland-verdens-stoerste-falliterklaering/10408018?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Google have translated Falliterklæring to Bankruptcy when a more correct translation would be Fallacy statement.

Markus

Dargo
10-20-24, 07:00 AM
Yet another doomsday prediction on the Russian economy. I think they have hopes Russian economy will collapse.

MarkusThis is not based on hope, this is based on data from the Russian central bank there's a lot of evidence, they announced a 15% cut in Social Security, a series of tax rises, at least half of their existing Sovereign Wealth Fund (sovereign investment fund is a state-owned investment fund that invests in real and financial assets) is spent that's not invested money that's just money that's gone up in smoke quite literally and so the Russian economy will struggle next year. The immediate boost because of the economy after the invasion to war production is a very inefficient way of boosting an economy anyone will tell you this over the last 100 years if it has to be done, but it's not an efficient way of creating new jobs, new Industries or grow your economy all it does create is a kaboom in Ukraine and after that it is all gone. The way the war is going for Putin, his investments are investments in a deep ravine with his goals not being met, it will be an endless trying to dump money into a ravine. The Russian economy will begin to struggle next year as with its manpower problem Ukraine will get through to next year because it has more and richer allies by the middle to end of next year and into 2026 the Russians will really be feeling it well what a war means for them. Russian Central Bank Governor Elvira Nabiullina raised its key rate to 18% and does not rule out further increases to lower inflation. Elvira Nabiullina constantly trying to save the economy but with Putin at the wheel she can not prevent Russian economy overheating they are stuck in a circle this war created so many problems it can trigger an event that will go out of control any moment. And do not think oil and gas will save Russia all major gas projects are cancel'd and Saudi Arabia is gone bring oil price per barrel to 50 dollar that is under the price cap so means lesser income for Russia because with their illegal sell of oil they need to sell it below the 50 dollar because buyers are not nice and smell opportunities to wreck the shyte out of Russia that arrogantly ruled them for decades. Heck, Saudi Arabia can do this dump because they bought up most crude from Russia at low price and ruin them now karma is a biaach.

According to most estimates, every day of the war in Ukraine costs Russia $500 million to $1 billion. On 27 June 2022, Russia defaulted on part of its foreign currency, its first such default since 1918. TASS reported poor results for the Russian economy in the first quarter of 2023 with revenue of 5.7 trillion roubles down 21% (mainly due to falling oil revenue), expenditure 8.1 trillion roubles up 34% (mainly due to increased military costs), creating a deficit 2.4 trillion roubles ($29.4 billion) The 2024 budget expects revenues of 35 trillion rubles ($349 billion) with expenditure of 36.6 trillion, based on a Urals oil forecast of $71.30 per barrel, a 90.1 rubles to USD 1 exchange rate and inflation of 4.5%. Defence spending will double to 10.78 trillion, 29.4% of expenditure. Russia currently has a record low unemployment rate of just 3 percent, due to a demographic decline, demands of the war for industrial and military manpower, and large scale emigration. If people think that Russia can deal with these loses on top of the loses at the fronts, think this has nothing to do with the war is wrong, the overall machine will break or is already breaking down like the fronts this can not go on for long. All our investments be it economical or military will be investments we dream of for decades aka Germany after WWII even Trump can see this is a deal of the century.

Jimbuna
10-20-24, 09:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGsfQfIrWCk

Jimbuna
10-20-24, 10:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di-i4g0UzRw&t=54s

mapuc
10-20-24, 10:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsNBPb2CugA

Markus

Jimbuna
10-20-24, 10:12 AM
North Korea wants to gain combat experience in war in Ukraine, - NATO PA Chairman Connolly

Jerry Connolly, Chairman of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly and Congressman from Virginia, commented on the possible participation of DPRK army soldiers in the war in Ukraine on the side of Russia. In his opinion, this shows a certain weakness of the Russian Federation. At the same time, North Korea wants to gain combat experience.

Connolly said this in an interview with Radio Liberty, Censor.NET reports.

"They have one of the largest armies in the world, but they have little combat experience - in fact, none at all. The last time they were in combat was during the Korean War. So, it's been 70 years now. There are almost no soldiers left from that war. To gain combat experience, where can you go for it if you are North Korea? Well, they were invited by the Russians to fight in Ukraine. I think there are clear goals set by the North Koreans," the NATO PA Chairman said.

Also, in his opinion, Russia's involvement of North Korean troops in the war against Ukraine demonstrates the weakness of the aggressor country.

"From the point of view of Ukraine and NATO, this demonstrates a certain weakness of Russia. Do you need North Korean troops deployed in Europe to fight in Ukraine? Do you really? And why does Russia need it? Maybe because, frankly, Russia's potential is exhausted? Russian losses are estimated at 600,000 killed, wounded, and missing. These figures are already approaching the level of World War II in the initial stages of Operation Barbarossa after 1941," Connolly said.

The situation is the same with China.

"The early communist revolutionaries like Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai and their associates-many of them were trained in Moscow. And it was Russia that armed the Chinese revolutionaries who eventually seized power in China. But now it is China that dominates relations with Russia, which looks to China for help. This is also a sign of how Vladimir Putin's influence has diminished and his vulnerability has increased. The fact that he has to turn to these countries to continue his horrific war in Ukraine speaks volumes," Connolly said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3515819

ET2SN
10-20-24, 06:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixcXYBWHprw


Besides the begging for money :roll: , this guy hits some of the fine points.
I could have posted this in the NK thread, but it seems to fit better here.

So, remember when France wanted to send Special Forces troops to Ukraine?
Remember how that could have been an escalation into a bigger war with NATO?

So, thanks Putin. :yeah: Thanks for the green light. :yep:

We know its only OK when you do it, but now any NATO military with a chip on their shoulder can join the party. :O:

Skybird
10-20-24, 08:03 PM
I know nothing about Moldavia. Has anyone seen this coming? I thought they were pro-Europe. But again, I do not really know anything about Moldavia, l was just swallong the usual media gulp.



[Die Welt] In the Republic of Moldova, the government of President Maia Sandu has suffered a serious setback with its pro-European course. According to initial results, the citizens of the south-east European country effectively voted against EU accession in a referendum on Sunday. In addition, Sandu was only just ahead of her pro-Russian rival Alexandr Stolianoglo in the presidential elections held at the same time.

Polls had predicted a clear victory for Sandu. If the figures are confirmed, Stolianoglo could go into the run-off election on November 3 with a tailwind. The figures are also sobering for the EU, as it actively supported Sandu. However, Russia is also struggling for influence in the former Soviet republic. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Moldova has alternated between a pro-Western and a pro-Russian course.

On Sunday evening, the electoral commission's website reported that 57% of Moldovans had voted “no” in the referendum on EU accession after 23% of the votes had been counted and only 42% had voted “yes”.

Dargo
10-21-24, 10:13 AM
I know nothing about Moldavia. Has anyone seen this coming? I thought they were pro-Europe. But again, I do not really know anything about Moldavia, l was just swallong the usual media gulp.



[Die Welt] In the Republic of Moldova, the government of President Maia Sandu has suffered a serious setback with its pro-European course. According to initial results, the citizens of the south-east European country effectively voted against EU accession in a referendum on Sunday. In addition, Sandu was only just ahead of her pro-Russian rival Alexandr Stolianoglo in the presidential elections held at the same time.

Polls had predicted a clear victory for Sandu. If the figures are confirmed, Stolianoglo could go into the run-off election on November 3 with a tailwind. The figures are also sobering for the EU, as it actively supported Sandu. However, Russia is also struggling for influence in the former Soviet republic. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Moldova has alternated between a pro-Western and a pro-Russian course.

On Sunday evening, the electoral commission's website reported that 57% of Moldovans had voted “no” in the referendum on EU accession after 23% of the votes had been counted and only 42% had voted “yes”.This woman voted in Moldova’s election on Sunday, then asked a surprised election monitor where she gets paid. So I decided to ask what she’d been promised… The authorities believe Russia has been channeling-in money to buy votes: that Moscow has not ‘let go’ of #Moldova https://x.com/sarahrainsford/status/1848306963647451616 Sarah Rainsford: BBC Eastern Europe Correspondent. This election was plagued by a large-scale Russian disinformation campaign against the EU and interference from a pro-Russian oligarch who paid people money to vote against it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j29_Wq2kPds

BBC finds evidence of vote-buying in Moldova (https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cpv2vyelvmvo?at_format=link)

Jimbuna
10-21-24, 10:15 AM
One of largest microelectronics manufacturers in Russia announces suspension of operations after UAV attack

The Kremniy EL microelectronics plant in Bryansk, Russia, has announced that it has suspended operations after an alleged drone attack.

This was stated by the plant's press service, Censor.NET reports.

The company said the UAV attack disrupted production chains at the plant.

According to the report, the attack "disrupted power supply, damaged special energy supply facilities, and interrupted technological production chains."

The plant's director, Oleg Dantsev, said the main task is to "resume production of electronic equipment as soon as possible in order to fulfill the plans unconditionally."

It should be noted that Silicon EL is one of the largest microelectronics manufacturers in Russia. In 2017, 94% of the company's products were manufactured for the needs of the Russian Ministry of Defense. The plant serves the Almaz-Antey, Aerospace Equipment, Sozvezdiye, and Vega concerns. It produces parts for Pantsyr air defense systems and Iskander missile systems.

Earlier it was reported that on the night of October 19, 2024, drones attacked the Silicon El plant in the Bryansk region of the Russian Federation. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3516009

Jimbuna
10-21-24, 10:28 AM
Kremlin has launched large-scale ’purge’ of corrupt generals in Ministry of Defence and other structures - British intelligence

The Kremlin has begun a "purge" of Russian generals in the Russian Defense Ministry and other law enforcement agencies on charges of corruption.

This was reported by the British Ministry of Defense intelligence, Censor.NET reports.

"On October 7, 2024, the Russian media reported that the prosecutor's office had filed additional charges against former Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov, who was previously charged in April 2024," British intelligence said in a statement.

The intelligence service says that the first of these cases concerns the embezzlement of 200 million rubles (about $2 million) during the purchase of two ships for ferrying across the Kerch Strait, which were subsequently damaged during the war. The second episode was the embezzlement of 3 billion rubles (about $200 million) from the Intercommerce Bank when purchasing foreign currency.

According to British intelligence, "charges continue to pile up against former senior Russian military officials. This is part of the largest prosecution of senior officials below the level of the executive or government".

Russian media also report "that eight officials with general ranks have been dismissed from agencies such as the Investigative Committee, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and the Federal Penitentiary Service." Probably, "this is related to corruption charges."

"If true, this could be a potential indicator that the crackdown on corruption is moving beyond its previous narrow focus on the defense sector," the British Ministry of Defense said.

As a reminder, at the end of May, Lieutenant General Vadim Shamarin, the head of the Main Communications Directorate of the Russian Armed Forces, was arrested in Russia. He is the deputy chief of the Russian General Staff, Valery Gerasimov. Shamarin was detained for taking a bribe.

It was also reported earlier that Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov was detained on suspicion of taking a bribe.

Later, it was reported that two more officials of the Ministry of Defense were detained in Russia: Vyacheslav Akhmedov, director of the Patriot Army Park in Moscow Region, and Major General Vladimir Shesterov, deputy head of the Ministry's Main Department of Innovative Development. Both are suspected of embezzling budget funds. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3516003

mapuc
10-21-24, 02:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HSAJW6vYzA

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Without these Oligarchs Putin does not have the support he need.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSpIkCU7rMY
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Dargo
10-21-24, 03:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKywbQiefs0

Only Nato can secure a ‘West German’ future for Ukraine (https://archive.ph/IPgCR)

mapuc
10-21-24, 03:27 PM
I have difficulty in seeing Ukraine being a member of NATO-They are at war and they have some problems with corruption and lack of democracy.

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It's only a matter of time before we are going to hear Ukraine have bombed military and factory complex near Moscow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlW7zHn_XiA
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Skybird
10-21-24, 04:13 PM
I have no doubt they can build and program good missiles and drones, they have proven they can, both for aerial and maritime use. What I wonder is whether they can build them in sufficient numbers, not so much small drones but big missiles. Its not as if Russia would not try to find the production facilities, and any factory is useless if it gets cut off electric power.



Its the only way for them to get long striking range anyway.



I have doubts on the penetraiton power of the warheads, however, developing the hardening of these so that they can go through bunkerwalls and such, is a complex and test-intensive process. But soft industrial targets - yeah, sure, they can, and they will and do try.

Dargo
10-21-24, 04:25 PM
I have difficulty in seeing Ukraine being a member of NATO-They are at war and they have some problems with corruption and lack of democracy.

MarkusThis is a plan floating around for after Ukraine and Russia make some kind of deal, same plan as with West and East Germany. All ex soviet countries now in the EU had the same or worse corruption and lack of democracy, so that is a non argument. If the powers want it, this will happen like it happened after WW2.

mapuc
10-21-24, 04:57 PM
This is a plan floating around for after Ukraine and Russia make some kind of deal, same plan as with West and East Germany. All ex soviet countries now in the EU had the same or worse corruption and lack of democracy, so that is a non argument. If the powers want it, this will happen like it happened after WW2.

The problem is that both side is very stubborn in their demands to sign any ceasefire/peace agreement.

If all these expert is correct, Ukraine shall only hold their positions as good as they can-'cause Russia is on the road to economical collapse, very soon.

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Dargo
10-21-24, 05:18 PM
The problem is that both side is very stubborn in their demands to sign any ceasefire/peace agreement.

If all these expert is correct, Ukraine shall only hold their positions as good as they can-'cause Russia is on the road to economical collapse, very soon.

MarkusUkraine holding their position resulted in that every Ukrainian has lost one or several relatives so any ceasefire/peace agreement Zelenskyy can sell to the Ukraine population they understand for Putin he can sell it as a victory he has no population to convince he dictates his only worry is his inner circle they can do a Khrushchev Brezhnev on him.

mapuc
10-21-24, 05:40 PM
Ukraine holding their position resulted in that every Ukrainian has lost one or several relatives so any ceasefire/peace agreement Zelenskyy can sell to the Ukraine population they understand for Putin he can sell it as a victory he has no population to convince he dictates his only worry is his inner circle they can do a Khrushchev Brezhnev on him.

Watch the second video about Russian Oligarch
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2930059&postcount=4990

Sooner or later he has to mobilize young men from Moscow and St. Petersborg. If he keeps on losing so many men per day in Ukraine.

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Dargo
10-21-24, 05:48 PM
Watch the second video about Russian Oligarch
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2930059&postcount=4990

Sooner or later he has to mobilize young men from Moscow and St. Petersborg. If he keeps on losing so many men per day in Ukraine.

MarkusOnly thing is Russian Oligarchs (Putin gave them their riches so he can take it all back) are not in the inner circle so have no power, only the FSB rules Russia. And if he wanted to do a mobilisation of Moscow and St. Petersburg he would already done it, but he saw how his first mobilisation worked out hundreds of thousands from Moscow and St. Petersburg fled Russia he needs those high skilled and educated. Same as the so called "corruption" purge in the military, it is the FSB destroying the power of the army to make sure they top dog.

Jimbuna
10-22-24, 03:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhUEr9eaN7s

Jimbuna
10-22-24, 03:55 AM
Putin gathers allies to show West's pressure isn’t working

Imagine you're Vladimir Putin.

The West has dubbed you a pariah for invading Ukraine. Sanctions are aiming to cut off your country's economy from global markets.

And there's an arrest warrant out for you from the International Criminal Court.

How can you show the pressure is not working? Try hosting a summit.

This week in the city of Kazan President Putin will greet more than 20 heads of state at the Brics summit of emerging economies. Among the leaders invited are China’s Xi Jinping, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian.

The Kremlin has called it one of the "largest-scale foreign policy events ever" in Russia.

"The clear message is that attempts to isolate Russia have failed," thinks Chris Weafer, founding partner of consultancy firm Macro-Advisory.

"It's a big part of the messaging from the Kremlin that Russia is withstanding sanctions. We know there are severe cracks beneath the surface. But at a geopolitical level Russia has all these friends and they’re all going to be Russia's partners."

So, who are Russia's friends?

Brics stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. The grouping, often referred to as a counterweight to the Western-led world, has expanded to include Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran and the United Arab Emirates.

Saudi Arabia, too, has been invited to join.

The Brics nations account for 45% of the global population. Added together, members' economies are worth more than $28.5tn (£22tn). That's around 28% of the global economy.

Russian officials have indicated that another 30 countries want to join Brics or seek closer ties with the club. Some of these nations will take part in the summit. In Kazan this week expect a lot of talk about Brics representing the "global majority".

But apart from providing Vladimir Putin his moment on the geopolitical stage, what is the event likely to achieve?

Keen to ease the pressure from Western sanctions, the Kremlin leader will hope to convince Brics members to adopt an alternative to the dollar for global payments.

"A lot of the problems Russia's economy is facing are linked to cross-border trade and payments. And a lot of that is linked to the US dollar," says Mr Weafer.

"The US Treasury has enormous power and influence over global trade simply because the US dollar is the main currency for settling that. Russia's main interest is in breaking the dominance of the US dollar. It wants Brics countries to create an alternative trade mechanism and cross-border settlement system that does not involve the dollar, the euro or any of the G7 currencies, so that sanctions won't matter so much."

But critics point to differences within Brics. "Likeminded" is not a word you would use to describe the current membership.

"In some ways it’s a good job for the West that China and India can never agree about anything. Because if those two were really serious, Brics would have enormous influence," notes Jim O'Neill, former Chief Economist of Goldman Sachs.

"China and India are doing their best to avoid wanting to attack each other a lot of the time. Trying to get them to really co-operate on economic things is a never-ending challenge."

It was Mr O’Neill who, at the turn of the century, dreamt up the acronym "Bric" for four emerging economies he believed should be "brought into the centre of global policy making".

But the four letters would take on a life of their own, after the corresponding nations formed their own Bric group - later Brics, when South Africa joined. They would attempt to challenge the dominance of the G7: the world's seven largest "advanced" economies (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the UK and the US).

It's not just India and China who have their differences. There is tension between two of the newest Brics members, Egypt and Ethiopia. And, despite talk of detente, Iran and Saudi Arabia have long been regional rivals.

"The idea that they’re all going to fundamentally agree on something of great substance is bonkers really," believes Mr O’Neill.

And while Russia, fuelled by anti-Western sentiment, talks about creating a "new world order", other Brics members, like India, are keen to retain good political and economic relations with the West.

In Kazan, Vladimir Putin's task will be to skim over the differences and paint a picture of unity, while showing the Russian public – and the international community – that his country is far from isolated.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly3ylwg4eqo