Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Skybird]

Because NATO nuclear warheads can be installed in Ukraine in reach of Moscow (in theory)

Sometimes i try to see the Russian side of the story, and there perspective towards us. So do I, and they have a few - few - valid points, but none that justifies the killing and mutilation of hundreds of thousands of their own and Ukrainian people, firing missile barrages into the backs of fleeing columns of civilians, flatteening civilian civilian living areas to terrorise the population, firing cluster ammunition into civilian populated areas kidnapping thousands of children, executing prisoners, torturing and dismembering prisoners, systemnatically mass-raping women and girls and men, destroying the economical nd physical fundament of mere biological existence. Its a war of annihilation. Annihilating a state. An ethnic culture. A people.

And BTW, the Russians have stationed long-reaching missiles and nuclear warheads in the Kaliningrad enclave already years before they launched this war on Ukraine. ;) It was in 2018, and the carrying missiles stationed in the Western area are Iskander-Ms. They prepared this step from 2010 on by forming the military infrastructure there. Four years ahead of the masked Crimea invasion. :03: In doing so they formed sort of a protetcive nuclear umbrella for the Ukraine invasion to which Crimea always was just the opening.

Iskanders have a published range of 500km, possibly beyond 700km, and are said to be very fast and very precise, there even might be the option to raise their rnage to 1300 km. The West is not sure on that, however, their threat potential is real, and immense. Russia probably build them for right this uncertainty: to formally comply with the INF treaty (which limits the range formally allowed) while in fact having a weapon in place with two-to three times as much reach as that treaty allows. Tnjats why some experts assume that while 500km are published, the Iskanders nevertehless may cover most of Germany, and maybe can even reach as far as Paris.



They surely cover all of Poland.

[Raf1394]

So do I, and they have a few - few - valid points, but none that justifies the killing and mutilation of hundreds of thousands of their own and Ukrainian people, firing missile barrages into the backs of fleeing columns of civilians, flatteening civilian civilian living areas to terrorise the population, firing cluster ammunition into civilian populated areas kidnapping thousands of children, executing prisoners, torturing and dismembering prisoners, systemnatically mass-raping women and girls and men, destroying the economical nd physical fundament of mere biological existence. Its a war of annihilation. Annihilating a state. An ethnic culture. A people.

And BTW, the Russians have stationed long-reaching missiles and nuclear warheads in the Kaliningrad enclave already years before they launched this war on Ukraine. ;) It was in 2018, and the carrying missiles stationed in the Western area are Iskander-Ms. They prepared this step from 2010 on by forming the military infrastructure there. Four years ahead of the masked Crimea invasion. :03: In doing so they formed sort of a protetcive nuclear umbrella for the Ukraine invasion to which Crimea always was just the opening.

Iskanders have a published range of 500km, possibly beyond 700km, and are said to be very fast and very precise, there even might be the option to raise their rnage to 1300 km. The West is not sure on that, however, their threat potential is real, and immense. Russia probably build them for right this uncertainty: to formally comply with the INF treaty (which limits the range formally allowed) while in fact having a weapon in place with two-to three times as much reach as that treaty allows. Tnjats why some experts assume that while 500km are published, the Iskanders nevertehless may cover most of Germany, and maybe can even reach as far as Paris.



They surely cover all of Poland.


Thanks for clarification :salute:

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobN4vo3GAU

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine to buy radiation sickness drug from Israel in case of nuclear incident - media

Following the recent Russian drone strike on the shelter of Unit 4 of the Chornobyl nuclear power plant, Ukraine has signed an agreement with the Israeli biotechnology company Pluri to help develop an emergency response to life-threatening radiation sickness in the event of a nuclear or radiation threat.

This is reported by the Times of Israel, Censor.NET reports.

Thus, the Israeli company Pluri has signed a contract with the Ukrainian cord blood bank Hemafund for the supply of PLX-R18 as a potential treatment for radiation sickness.

This drug is a promising treatment for acute radiation syndrome, which can occur as a result of exposure to high doses of ionizing radiation.

The developers claim that their cell therapy drug is able to stimulate the production of platelets and white and red blood cells, which usually die in the event of radiation damage.

PLX-R18 has the ability to stimulate the regeneration of bone marrow and blood cells, which helps restore immunity and reduce the effects of radiation.

According to the company, the cells of a single placenta can be multiplied to a quantity capable of treating more than 20 thousand patients.

Under the terms of the cooperation agreement, the company will produce and supply Ukraine with up to 12,000 doses of PLX-R18, which is enough to treat 6,000 people.

The doses will be stored in the Ukrainian blood bank Hemafund and delivered to medical facilities throughout Ukraine in case of an emergency.

Russian strike on the sarcophagus of the Chornobyl nuclear power plant
As a reminder, President Zelenskyy said in the morning that a Russian attack drone with an explosive warhead hit the shelter of Chornobyl NPP Unit 4 on the night of February 14.

The IAEA confirmed the drone strike on the protective sarcophagus of the fourth unit of the Chornobyl nuclear power plant.

The spokesman for the Russian dictator Dmitry Peskov denied that Russian troops had attacked the Chornobyl nuclear power plant.

Ukraine's Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha called on the international community to force Russia to peace by force to prevent a global catastrophe after Russia's attack on the Chornobyl nuclear power plant.

Minister of Energy Herman Halushchenko emphasized that the shelter arch had suffered significant damage. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3547947

[Skybird]

[FOCUS (https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/putin-ueberrascht-uns-militaerexperten-warnen-eindringlich-vor-narwa-szenario_80a9a41e-4ac3-4100-9923-868307164c09.html)] Putin is testing NATO by attacking a small town in Estonia. German military experts, among others, are exploring the "Narva Scenario." They warn that these speculations could soon become reality.

Would we die for Narva? Would NATO risk escalation, even a nuclear war, with Russia for a town of 50,000 inhabitants?

The so-called "Narva Scenario" is one that military expert Carlo Masala explores in his latest book. And now, in a recent interview with "N-tv," he and his colleague, military historian Sönke Neitzel, once again urgently warn of this danger. In the interview, the two scholars emphasize that Russia could attempt to challenge the Western alliance after a possible victory in its war of aggression against Ukraine.​

At its core, the thought experiment deals with the danger at one of NATO's easternmost points: the city of Narva in Estonia, which lies directly on the border with Russia. In this thought experiment, Russian troops occupy Narva. Moscow's goal is to provoke NATO into responding in accordance with Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty. This stipulates that, for NATO, an attack on one of its member states is tantamount to an attack on all allies.

Members are obligated to assist the attacked country, including the use of armed force. In Masala's scenario, which he plays out for the year 2028, the NATO states now face a dilemma. Do they react and risk escalation to nuclear war? Or do they do nothing, thereby undermining their credibility, burying NATO's security promise, and continuing to embolden Putin?

The West, according to Sönke Neitzel, believes it has plenty of time to rearm. "Like Carlo, I'm convinced: Vladimir Putin is thinking in terms of opportunities and will test us beforehand. Therefore, we should act as if this could be our last summer of peace."

Neitzel had already used this phrase, "last summer of peace," in an interview a few weeks ago and was harshly criticized for it. Other experts see it as unnecessary scaremongering.

But Neitzel's colleague Masala jumps in on him in the interview: For nine months, "virtually every intelligence agency in Europe" has been saying the same thing. Namely, according to Masala: "Russia is restoring its military strength and wants to be stronger soon than it was in 2022." He and Neitzel were "thinking about what this test scenario might look like. Politically, one could of course say that won't happen. But then we'll fall into the same trap we fell into in 2021: We'll be surprised again when Putin crosses the border with his troops."

Bestselling author Tom Clancy has also addressed the Narva scenario in a novel, and an essay by the "Federal Agency for Civic Education" from 2024 poses the provocative question: "Die for Narva?"

That the Narva scenario is by no means far-fetched is demonstrated, among other things, by the fact that shortly after the attack on Ukraine, Putin claimed that the city historically belonged to Russia. The "Welt" newspaper writes about this and quotes an Estonian security official in a recent article. He does not believe that Estonia's NATO allies are prepared for what could happen in Narva.

Although NATO troops are stationed in Estonia, the small country is also intensively preparing for a possible attack. But the official says of his country's allies: "I think the awareness of the problem is not comparable to what we have. That didn't exist in 2008 (when Russia invaded Georgia, ed.), nor in 2014 (when it annexed the Crimean peninsula), and it doesn't exist today. People simply don't understand the current situation."

Die Welt also reported on statements by residents of Narva, according to which there are constant provocations and sabotage by Moscow: from satellite navigation disruptions to stolen border marker buoys, loud propaganda, surveillance drones, and buzzing blimps marked with the Russian army's "Z."

Masala therefore says: "The Narva scenario in particular is also intended as a stimulus for a broader audience, not just command staffs. Because this discourse is not very present in Germany. Many people hold a Russian attack as exaggerated, nonsense, or warmongering. Viewed objectively, however, it is within the realm of possibility."

For this reason, Masala and Neitzel are also skeptical about the use of the phrase "bypassing" in reference to Putin and Russia. It is a "tedious discussion," says Masala. Of course, Russian interests must be taken into account. And after the Second World War, the Western states "found a way to 'deal with' the revisionist powers Germany, Italy, and Japan." He is also not against diplomacy. "But we won't achieve anything with that with Putin. He will continue to play the military card. We must prepare ourselves for that, because certain things are non-negotiable: We cannot abandon Ukraine, because then we would betray all Western principles and become part of a Russian power structure."

[Jimbuna]

There is high probability that deal between Russia and Ukraine will be reached this week - Trump

US President Donald Trump has said that there is a high probability that a Russian-Ukrainian ceasefire agreement will be reached this week.

Trump said this at an Easter event at the White House, Censor.NET reports.

According to him, recent US meetings with Russia and Ukraine have been "very good".

He promised to talk about it in more detail in the "next three days".

The day before, US President Donald Trump expressed hope that Ukraine and Russia would "make a deal" next week. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3547991

Putin offers bilateral talks with Ukraine on moratorium on strikes on civilian targets - Peskov

Russian dictator Vladimir Putin was referring to negotiations with Ukraine when he spoke about discussing a moratorium on strikes on civilian infrastructure.

This was stated by Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, quoted by the Russian Interfax news agency, Censor.NET reports.

According to him, Putin is ready to discuss the moratorium on strikes on civilian targets with the Ukrainian side.

Peskov also added that the Russian dictator "has repeatedly spoken about his readiness to negotiate with the Ukrainian side," and this is another proposal he has made.

Earlier, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin said that it was necessary to "deal" with the proposal not to attack civilian objects.

Putin's announcement of an "Easter truce"
As a reminder, on April 19, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin allegedly announced an Easter truce that would be in effect from 6 p.m. Moscow time on April 19 to zero hours on April 21.

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy reacted to Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's announcement of the so-called Easter truce by saying that it was another of Putin's attempts to play with people's lives.

Later, President Zelenskyy said that if Russia is now ready to really join the format of complete and unconditional silence, Ukraine will act in a mirror image - silence in response to silence, strikes in defense of strikes.

On April 20, Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that the Kremlin dictator had not ordered the truce to be extended. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3547986

[Raf1394]

The thing that also keeps me interested about this war, was the internal conflict that happend in Russia during 2023.
Between the regular Russian army and the Private Military group Wagner. Especially Putin with the Russian army brass against Prigozhin.

I guess there was a disagreement with those two?
Some people thought it was a good move from Wagner to launch a coup or offensive against Moscow. But honestly i'm not a big fan of those PMC's, mercenary groups... They did tons of war crimes against civilians.

The Russian army itself also isn't clean. But one could say that the regular armed forces, still has some discipline and morals.
There is still a big difference being part of the regular military or being part of a mercenary group.


I hate these mercenary groups with passion. Only money hunters or sadistic people join these groups. When you join the military, its still a sense of duty or pride. I kinda feel bad for any Ukrainian or Russian soldier who is part of the armed forces who got killed in action. But for members of those mercenary groups, i do very little.

[Dargo]

I think this was an ordinary coup by the army, Prigozhin could drive up the Moscow without any and really zero resistance from the army. This is not the first time in the last 100 year that the Russian army tries to coup, be it the soviets or any other tzar.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q4NV5pty3U

[Jimbuna]

European Commission on Ukraine’s accession to EU: Ukraine conducts screening with unprecedented speed

The process of screening Ukrainian legislation for compliance with EU law as part of the accession negotiations is proceeding at a record pace.

This was stated by the European Commission spokesman Guillaume Mercier, Censor.NET reports with reference to the European Parliament.

"In the case of Ukraine, we are applying an accelerated procedure - the screening is taking place at an unprecedented speed. This became possible thanks to the close cooperation of the European Commission's experts with Ukrainian partners to ensure the most efficient passage of this stage," Mercier said.

He emphasized that the EU is applying an accelerated procedure, and the pace of screening, which has been underway since June 2024, is the highest in the history of enlargement.

"Ukraine is making steady progress towards EU membership. We are currently in the process of conducting bilateral screening on various thematic clusters of EU law," the spokesman said.

To recap, the opening of this cluster is currently being blocked by Hungary, which has additional demands regarding the rights of the Hungarian minority in Zakarpattia. Negotiations on this issue are ongoing in the EU Council.

The European Commission assures that it will continue to provide Ukraine with comprehensive support - technical, political and financial.

Recently, it was reported that Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal said that Ukraine is currently demonstrating the fastest pace of European integration among all countries that have ever sought to join the European Union. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3548120

Europe has drawn "red lines" for US on Ukraine, - Barrot

At the last meeting in Paris, European countries told the US side that the issues concerning Ukraine cannot be the subject of concessions to Russia to end the war.

According to Censor.NET, citing Reuters, this was stated by French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot.

"The only objective that concerns us is to defend French interests and European security. It's the reason that as the US decide to place itself in a mediator position that we make them hear what our "red lines" are," said the French Foreign Minister.

He did not disclose the details of what exactly the Europeans indicated as red lines regarding Ukraine.

As a reminder, the Trump Administration believes that a peace agreement could include something like a swap of territory for security guarantees. However, negotiations are still ongoing. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3548094

[Reece]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyRADBoFOvg

[Skybird]

European Commission on Ukraine’s accession to EU: Ukraine conducts screening with unprecedented speed


Europe has drawn "red lines" for US on Ukraine, - Barrot

Top US officials pull out of Russia-Ukraine ceasefire talks in London

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78jx68d922o

British diplomats said they were not entirely clear why Rubio and Witkoff had pulled out of the London talks.

The US state department blamed logistical reasons, but it was clear the decision was last-minute and left the Foreign Office wrongfooted.
(...)
The US decision may have been because the Americans felt they had nothing new to say since they last met in Paris last week - or they may have realised the Ukrainians were likely to reject the latest US ceasefire plan and did not want to hear bad news.I strongly assume the chance of US recognition of Crimea being Russian now triggered so stiff resistance from Zelenskyi and Europe that the Americans saw no way to win that set when facing that resistance face to face.

The conflict goes back more than a decade, to 2014, when Ukraine's pro-Russian [puppet, Skybird] president was overthrown [after trying to betray the Ukrainian people whom he promised before elections that he would lead them closer to Europe, not Russia, Skybird]. Russia then annexed Crimea and backed militants in bloody fighting in eastern Ukraine.Anyway, the American giovernment is no honest broker in this conflict. Trump's "diplomacy" is a double game, to put it in a very restrained way. It alrrady was under Biden, but not as visible and obvious.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcbtN25D57o

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFe3lf_3D_o

[Dargo]

I think he already walked away, the spoilt kid is bored. This 7-step US peace plan comes directly from the Kremlin. A long-held dream in Moscow splitting America and its European allies is thus finally within reach for Putin. Ukraine is diplomatically in the tongs of two superpowers. European allies are so far choosing not to publicly condemn the radicalism of the Trump administration, but are trying to file down the sharp edges of it behind the scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s79t-nJSjJA

And... The glorious Russian army (That keeps getting smashed on Ukrainian defences.) still not possible to do bewegungskrieg!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwqVq1tLL4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_UemRe-vbw
Oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNLxKicA3jo

[Skybird]

Aha. So this spoiled carrion in the WH is “frustrated”. What an earth-shattering shame. My psychological advice would be: put him over your knee and give him a good spanking to take his mind off things.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78jx68d922o

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFKnWLzqA94

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM85S-j26Cs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0N-gDCHJiA

[mapuc]

Why don't Trump take the full step forward and declare USA as a new Russian Oblast.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Zelensky on White House statements about Trump’s "disappointment": It’s Ukrainians who will run out of patience

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky responded to a statement made by White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, who recently said that U.S. President Donald Trump is "running out of patience" and allegedly "disappointed" with the course of peace negotiations.

Zelenskyy stated during a joint press conference with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa, as reported by Censor.NET.

He emphasized that Russia must halt its massive strikes on Ukraine if it claims to be ready for a ceasefire.

"Our priority today is to end this war — not to start something new, but to stop Putin. That’s it. But it doesn’t work that way. If Russia claims it’s ready for a ceasefire, then it must stop launching massive strikes on Ukrainian territory. Because, frankly, I don’t know whose patience is supposed to run out, but it’s the Ukrainians who may truly lose theirs. We are the ones under Russian attack — not anyone else. I don’t wish for anyone to experience what Ukrainians are going through right now, but it is us who are being targeted by Russia," the president concluded.

As a reminder, on April 23, Karoline Leavitt said that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy was moving in the wrong direction in peace talks.

"President [Trump] is frustrated, his patience is running out... He wants the killing to stop. But both sides of the war must want that," the White House spokeswoman said.

Earlier, Trump criticized Zelenskyy's statement on Crimea and noted that the situation for Ukraine is "terrible" now. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3548621

Starmer after missile strike on Ukraine: Real reminder that Russia is aggressor

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer called the Russian missile attack on Kyiv "a real reminder that Russia is the aggressor."

This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to Sky News.

"This is a real reminder that it is Russia that is the aggressor," Starmer said, answering journalists' questions about the impact of the shelling on peace talks.

Commenting on the talks held in London this week, the British prime minister noted that "progress is being made towards a ceasefire," emphasizing that it is a "sustainable ceasefire."

Massive Combined Strike on April 24
During the night of April 24, Russian invaders launched a combined attack on Ukraine using missiles of various types — air-, ground-, and sea-launched — as well as Shahed-type strike UAVs and drones simulating other models.

As a result of the Russian attack, Kyiv, Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Zhytomyr, Zaporizhzhia, and Khmelnytskyi regions were affected.

As of 10:00 a.m. on April 24, at least nine people were confirmed dead and over 100 injured in Kyiv. The consequences of the strike were recorded in five city districts.

In Pavlohrad, the blast wave affected 14 apartment buildings, mostly damaging windows and balconies. Infrastructure facilities were also hit.

In the Zhytomyr region, the combined strike wounded a rescuer and damaged four State Emergency Service vehicles. Several private garages were also damaged, a fire broke out, and the blast wave shattered windows in multiple apartment buildings.

Throughout the night, Russian forces carried out several missile strikes on Kharkiv. The city was also attacked by drones. Two people were injured.

In the Khmelnytskyi region, a man and a child were injured as a result of the Russian attack. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3548623

[Jimbuna]

Macron: One cannot expect Zelenskyy to agree to ceasefire with Russia while Kyiv is under bombardment

French President Emmanuel Macron reacted to Russia's massive shelling of Kyiv on April 24 and called on the United States to direct its anger at the Kremlin dictator.

He told journalists about this, Censor.NET reports.

"We cannot expect President Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire while his capital is being bombed. The anger of the United States should be directed at one person - Putin," Macron emphasized.

"The only thing we need is for Putin to stop lying," he said, explaining that the Russian dictator says he wants peace in talks with the United States, but "continues to bomb Ukraine."

Macron said that if Russia rejects the ceasefire, it must face the consequences.

However, if it agrees, "we can build a just and lasting peace, a peace that will allow us to achieve territorial concessions and firm security guarantees."

The French leader also welcomed U.S. diplomatic efforts but emphasized that Russia is the "sole aggressor" in the war against Ukraine, following U.S. President Donald Trump’s attack on Zelenskyy over his refusal to cede Crimea to Russia.

As a reminder, during the night of April 24, Kyiv came under a massive combined attack. The enemy used cruise and ballistic missiles, as well as strike drones. The bombardment caused destruction in five districts of the capital. The hardest hit was the Sviatoshynskyi District, where a residential apartment building was partially destroyed.

According to the latest reports, at least nine people were killed and over 100 others sustained injuries of varying severity as a result of the attack. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3548599

Lammy condemns Russian attack on Kyiv: "These are not actions of man of peace"

British Foreign Secretary David Lammy has condemned another massive Russian attack on Kyiv and other Ukrainian cities, which claimed the lives of civilians and led to numerous injuries.

He wrote about this in the social network X, Censor.NET reports.

Lemmy emphasized that at the time when Ukrainian officials were in London working to establish peace, Russia, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin, was shelling civilians.

"These are not the actions of a man of peace," the British minister said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3548592

[Dargo]

The Netherlands has been used for pre-screening attacks with incendiary bombs and explosives in air cargo packages. This was reported by the Dutch Secret Service AIVD. The Dutch Secret Service intercepted the empty packages. The aim was to send the packages without incendiary cargo from one country - via the Netherlands - to other countries. ‘The Netherlands was not targeted, but we did see logistical reconnaissance taking place,’ said the AIVD director.

Last October, Polish intelligence arrested several people who allegedly sent packages on behalf of a foreign Secret Service. Western intelligence services suspect Russia of the actions. The group sent packages containing hidden explosives and other dangerous materials via courier services to other EU countries and the UK. The AIVD now reports that the Netherlands was used as a transit country, but they were already intercepted at a distribution centre and did not end up on a plane.

[Commander Wallace]

Zelensky on White House statements about Trump’s "disappointment": It’s Ukrainians who will run out of patience


Starmer after missile strike on Ukraine: Real reminder that Russia is aggressor

I'm at a loss regarding regarding Trump's position in the Ukraine. My opinion, for what it's worth is that the U.S should sit down with it's European Allies and Ukrainian Supporters and help Ukraine win it's war with Russia. The Countries in Europe all tend to agree on that.

Putin and Russia aren't interested nor do they want a cease fire or to end the war. They want the Ukraine. I say, help Ukraine win.

[Dargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gExiK0mXFA8

[Reece]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS8JzOd7OHY

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZGWKThd8u0

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS_17zhz4NI

[Skybird]

Ukraine Peace Plan: "Sorry, it took a while, we had to have it translated from Russian first."


https://www.tagesspiegel.de/images/13589074/alternates/FREE_620/1745505938000/sorry-ts-2.jpeg




Putin wants to be recognized as a superpower, and that's why he only talks to the superpower US/Trump, not to the inferior, subordinate, and less important vasall called EU.

And Trump wants to save face. "Peace on day one," Mr. Super-Bigmouth trumpeted. It's long overdue. It's now just a matter of enabling him to either sell a declaration of surrender and subsequent acceptance of Ukraine's submission as a peace treaty, or to justify his—Trump's—withdrawal by claiming that the ungrateful, warmongering, and deeply guilty Ukraine, of its own accord, rejected his grandiose peace plan—for which, of course, he himself couldn't be blamed.

[Dargo]

Press agency Reuters has published the full texts of both the US proposal for a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine and the European-Ukrainian counter-proposal to it. The differences between the two proposals are still particularly significant on some points. Whether they can be bridged is an open question. Earlier, the outlines of the US proposal for peace leaked out, and it immediately became clear that Ukraine would not be able to agree to some key points, such as legal recognition of the annexation of Crimea. The Ukrainian-European response to the proposal was discussed last week in Paris and last Wednesday in London between Ukraine, the UK, France and Germany. In London, it was handed over to US envoy Keith Kellogg. The latter would have presented it to President Trump on his return. Yesterday, Ukrainian President Zelensky said the proposal ‘may be on Trump's desk’.

The US proposal these terms constitute the United States' final offer to both parties:
Ceasefire:

Permanent ceasefire.
Both sides engage in immediate technical implementation negotiations with Ukraine.


Security guarantees:

Ukraine will receive robust security guarantee.
Guarantor states will be an ad hoc group of European states plus willing non-European states.
Ukraine will not seek NATO membership.
Ukraine may pursue EU membership.


Territory:

The US recognises de jure Russian control of Crimea.
The US recognises de facto Russian control of Luhansk.
The US recognises de facto Russian-controlled parts of Zaporizhzhya, Donetsk, and Kherson.
Ukraine regains territory in Kharkiv oblast.
Ukraine regains control of Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant through US control and administration of the plant, with electricity distributed on both sides, and the Kakhovka dam.
Ukraine gains unhindered passage on the Dnieper River and control over the economics of the Kinburn Spit.

Economy:

The United States and Ukraine will implement an economic cooperation/minerals agreement.
Ukraine will be fully rebuilt and financially compensated.
Sanctions imposed on Russia since 2014 as a result of this conflict will be lifted.
The US and Russia will cooperate on energy and other industrial activities. Russian economic cooperation in energy and other industrial sectors.



The European counter-proposal:

Ceasefire:

Commit to a complete and unconditional ceasefire by air, land and sea.
Both sides immediately begin negotiations on technical implementation, with the participation of the US and European countries. This in parallel with preparing the agenda and modalities for a full peace agreement.
Monitor the ceasefire, led by the US and supported by third countries.
Russia should unconditionally return all deported and illegally displaced Ukrainian children. Exchange of all prisoners of war (the principle of ‘all for all’). Russia must release all civilian prisoners.


Security guarantees for Ukraine:

Ukraine gets firm security guarantees, including from the US (Article 5-like agreement), since there is no consensus among allies on NATO membership.
No restrictions on Ukraine's defence forces.
The guarantor states will be an ad hoc group of European countries and willing non-European countries. No restrictions on the presence, weapons and operations of friendly foreign forces on the territory of Ukraine.
Ukraine aims to join the EU.


Territory:

Territorial issues are discussed and resolved after a full and unconditional ceasefire.
Territorial negotiations begin on file line.
Ukraine regains control of Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant with US involvement, as well as Kakhovka Dam.
Ukraine gets unhindered passage on the Dnieper River and control over the Kinburn Spit.


Economy:

US and Ukraine implement economic cooperation/minerals agreement.
Ukraine is fully rebuilt and financially compensated, including through Russian government assets remaining frozen until Russia compensates Ukraine for the damage.
US sanctions imposed on Russia since 2014 may be gradually relaxed after lasting peace is achieved and may be resumed in case of breach of the peace agreement.

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine adviser says Russia is dragging its feet in peace talks

Yuriy Sak, adviser to Ukraine's Ministry of Strategic Industries, tells the BBC that Russia appears to be "dragging its feet" and treating the process of peace talks as a "spectacle".

He says Ukraine speaks with its European partners daily, and he is reassured they'll stand with the country until peace is achieved.

But he says there are certain things only the US can provide, so it's "very important to preserve the strategic partnership".

He adds that Russia needs to "show genuine proof they're committed to this peace process".

As a reminder, Putin aide Yuri Ushakov said the Russian president and US special envoy Steve Witkoff held a "constructive meeting" in Moscow earlier, and discussed the possibility of

[Skybird]

Warm wax.

[Dargo]

Warm wax.And? Question is who's gets a Brazilian wax. Yank it, baby morrrreee.

[Dargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmhvhxBn2zQ

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYkJ0iRAV6g

[Skybird]

And? Question is who's gets a Brazilian wax. Yank it, baby morrrreee.
No, the wording, the phrases. Warm wax.

[Reece]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07wfDY7Cx7Q

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White House calls Trump-Zelenskyy meeting "productive"

The White House has confirmed that today, April 26, 2025, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy had a brief meeting with US President Donald Trump in Rome.

This was reported by the White House, Censor.NET reports with reference to Hromadske.

The White House also called the meeting "productive." Source: https://censor.net/en/n3548944

Zelenskyy and Trump held meeting and agreed on further talks after farewell to Pope - Sky News (updated)

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy has met with US President Donald Trump.

According to Censor.NET, this was reported to Suspilne by the presidential spokesman Serhii Nykyforov.

No more information is known at this time.

The meeting has probably already ended, as Trump and Zelenskyy, along with other leaders, are already in St. Peter's Square, where the official farewell ceremony for Pope Francis is beginning.

According to Sky News, Zelenskyy and Trump met and agreed to hold further talks after the farewell ceremony. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3548936

Ukraine and Russia are very close to an agreement, most of the main points have been agreed upon - Trump

US President Donald Trump said that Ukraine and Russia are very close to concluding a peace agreement.

The American leader wrote about this on his social network Truth Social, having arrived in Rome with his wife to attend the funeral of Pope Francis, Censor.NET reports.

According to the White House, most of the main points of the agreement have already been agreed upon, and both sides "need to meet at a very high level to complete it."

"I have just landed in Rome. Good day for talks and meetings with Russia and Ukraine. They are very close to an agreement and now both sides have to meet at a very high level to 'finalise it'. Most of the main points have been agreed. We will be there wherever needed to help facilitate the end of this cruel and senseless war! Stop the bloodshed, now," Trump wrote. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3548901

Total combat losses of Russian Federation since start of war - about 947,610 people (+1,110 per day), 10,711 tanks, 26,965 artillery systems, 22,320 armoured combat vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the Ukrainian defence forces have eliminated 947,610 Russian invaders.

This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press centre of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

As noted, the enemy's total combat losses from 24.02.22 to 26.04.25 are estimated at:

personnel - about 947610 (+1110) people,

tanks - 10711 (+8) units,

armoured combat vehicles - 22320 (+5) units,

artillery systems - 26965 (+70) units,

MLRS - 1372 (+0) units,

air defence systems - 1145 (+1) units,

aircraft - 370 (+0) units,

helicopters - 335 (+0) units,

UAVs of the operational and tactical level - 33897 (+118),

cruise missiles - 3196 (+0),

ships/boats - 28 (+0) units,

submarines - 1 (+0) units,

motor vehicles and tankers - 46051 (+145) units,

special equipment - 3860 (+0) Source: https://censor.net/en/p3548909