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Jimbuna
11-11-24, 12:26 PM
Trump appoints Stefanik as US ambassador to UN: She has low level of support for Ukraine

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump has chosen a candidate for the post of U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. It will be Congresswoman Alice Stefanik, who has not always supported the provision of assistance to Ukraine.

He said this to CNN, Censor.NET reports.

"I am honored to nominate Congresswoman Alice Stefanik to serve as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations in my cabinet. Alice is an incredibly strong, tough, and smart fighter for America first," Trump said.

What is known about Alice Stefanik?
Alice Stefanik is a congresswoman from New York, the fourth-ranking Republican in the House of Representatives.

Alice Stefanik, who chairs the House Republican Conference, has a low level of support for Ukraine, according to the Republicans for Ukraine civic initiative.

In general, she supports providing aid to Ukraine, but is critical of the scale and control over its use.

In particular, she voted in favor of the National Defense Authorization Act, which would have canceled $300 million in aid to Ukraine, and in 2024 she voted against the Supplemental Appropriations Act for Ukraine.

The congresswoman emphasizes the importance of transparency in providing military and financial support to Ukraine, prioritizing US national security interests.

In April 2022, she expressed strong support for the United States, but in November 2023, she expressed doubts about how the money to support Ukraine was being used and called for more assistance to Israel. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3519442

Skybird
11-11-24, 05:55 PM
Latest assessment by Col. Reisner.


https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/politik/Hinter-Pokrowsk-koennen-die-Russen-150-Kilometer-vorruecken-article25353742.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Jimbuna
11-12-24, 07:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fviovVxKC8

Jimbuna
11-12-24, 08:01 AM
Trump has opportunity to become "Churchill of our time", - Estonian Foreign Minister Tsakhkna

Estonian Foreign Minister Margus Tähkna believes that US President-elect Donald Trump could become the "Churchill of our time" if he makes the right decisions regarding Russia's war against Ukraine.

He noted that the current geopolitical circumstances are reminiscent of the situation in Europe in 1938, when different decisions by the then leaders could have potentially stopped Hitler and averted World War II.

"We can still make the right decisions... Russia will remain a threat in the future. We must put an end to Russia's aggression against Ukraine in a fair and proper way," Tsakhkna said.

The minister continued that there are many other centers of tension in the world.

"The incoming American leader must understand the responsibility that falls on him. And I think he has the opportunity to become a "Churchill," Tsakhkna concluded.

As a reminder, European Union High Representative Josep Borrell said that in connection with Trump's victory in the US presidential election, the EU should consider increasing assistance to Ukraine. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3519564

Catfish
11-12-24, 11:19 AM
^ Trump call ?
"There were recent reports that Donald Trump, following his 2024 election victory, had spoken with Russian President Vladimir Putin. However, the Kremlin has firmly denied that any such call took place. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov labeled these reports as "completely false" and clarified that there were no current plans for a call between Trump and Putin. While Trump has previously indicated he would seek a swift resolution to the Ukraine conflict if re-elected, this reported call appears to be unverified, with both Russian and Ukrainian officials refuting the claims of its occurrence."

Yes it took place and we now seem to know the content. The offer to Putin is said to include the latter getting Luhansk and Donetsk along with other territorial concessions, a 1200 km buffer zone that ends near Kyiv, and Ukraine not to join NATO for the next 20 years. Posted here in several newspapers.

Jimbuna
11-12-24, 01:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz-7ErrJ9G4

Jimbuna
11-13-24, 10:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHWuCXN_tpQ

Jimbuna
11-13-24, 10:18 AM
Scholz: I will not change my position on supply of Taurus missiles to Ukraine Source: https://censor.net/en/n3519786

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has reiterated his opposition to Ukraine's use of long-range Taurus cruise missiles to strike deep into Russian territory.

He said this during a speech in the Bundestag, Censor.NET reports citing European Pravda.

"I am against the fact that the weapons we supply are hitting deep into Russian territory. And I will not change my position on the supply of cruise missiles from Germany," Scholz said, commenting on his negative attitude to the transfer of Taurus to Ukraine."

During the prime minister's speech, deputies from the Free Democratic Party, which left the coalition, shouted: "Taurus".

Scholz's statement was made at a time when Germany is entering the election campaign period, as the Bundestag is scheduled to vote on the government's confidence vote on December 16.

If MPs do not support it, this will lead to early parliamentary elections, which may take place on February 23, 2025.

Earlier it was reported that German Chancellor Olaf Scholz announced the dismissal of Finance Minister Christian Lindner, who is the chairman of the Free Democratic Party. This actually means the collapse of the ruling government coalition in Germany. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3519786

Jimbuna
11-14-24, 09:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkD92vpbeB4

Jimbuna
11-14-24, 09:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrCT-fi_1-8

Catfish
11-14-24, 10:29 AM
Scholz: I will not change my position on supply of Taurus missiles to Ukraine Source: https://censor.net/en/n3519786
Good that he'll be history soon, if anyone will even remember him.

Dargo
11-14-24, 01:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6faPUqSucI

Jimbuna
11-14-24, 01:40 PM
Good that he'll be history soon, if anyone will even remember him.

I wish I could say the same of Starmer.

Jimbuna
11-14-24, 01:55 PM
European Commission has agreed to allocate EUR 4.1 billion to Ukraine - Shmyhal

The European Commission has agreed to allocate EUR 4.1 billion to Ukraine under the Ukraine Facility.

This was announced by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmyhal, Censor.NET reports.

"The European Commission gave a positive assessment of the reforms and noted that the government had fulfilled the necessary indicators to receive this tranche. We expect the EU Council to approve the decision as soon as possible. After that, the total amount of support under the Ukraine Facility for this year will amount to 16.1 billion euros," Shmyhal wrote on his telegram channel.

The Prime Minister noted that even despite the war, Ukraine continues to reform and transform to get closer to Europe and become a full member of the EU.

The EC press release notes that after assessing the second payment request submitted by Ukraine in October, the Commission concluded that Ukraine has satisfactorily fulfilled the nine agreed reform indicators for this payment. These reforms cover such areas as the fight against corruption, the business environment, the labor market, regional policy, the energy market, and environmental protection.

The Commission has presented to the European Council an assessment of Ukraine's satisfactory implementation of the qualitative and quantitative indicators set out in the Plan for Ukraine, together with a proposal for an Implementation Council Decision for the disbursement of almost €4.1 billion. The transfer to Ukraine will be made after the Council adopts this Decision and the Commission decides on the payment. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3520007

Jimbuna
11-15-24, 06:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdChZJaAms

Jimbuna
11-15-24, 06:16 AM
EU should review energy sanctions against Russia - Orban

The European Union should reconsider sanctions against Russia as they keep energy prices high.

This was stated by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, Censor.NET reports with reference to Reuters.

He believes that "energy prices should be reduced by any means necessary".

"This means that the sanctions should be reconsidered because under the current sanctions policy, energy prices will not go down," the Hungarian prime minister said.

According to Orban, American companies pay a quarter of the amount their European counterparts spend on gas and electricity, and this disadvantage cannot be overcome in other ways.

Orban criticizes EU sanctions against Russia
After the full-scale invasion of Russia, Viktor Orban sharply criticized the EU sanctions against Russia.

European countries have made serious efforts to wean themselves off Russian energy. However, Hungary, which is landlocked, receives 80-85% of its gas from Russia. In addition, 80% of its crude oil supplies also come from Russia. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3520112

Reece
11-15-24, 06:37 AM
After the full-scale invasion of Russia
:hmmm:

Otto Harkaman
11-15-24, 09:11 AM
"There were recent reports that Donald Trump, following his 2024 election victory, had spoken with Russian President Vladimir Putin. However, the Kremlin has firmly denied that any such call took place. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov labeled these reports as "completely false" and clarified that there were no current plans for a call between Trump and Putin. While Trump has previously indicated he would seek a swift resolution to the Ukraine conflict if re-elected, this reported call appears to be unverified, with both Russian and Ukrainian officials refuting the claims of its occurrence."

Yes it took place and we now seem to know the content. The offer to Putin is said to include the latter getting Luhansk and Donetsk along with other territorial concessions, a 1200 km buffer zone that ends near Kyiv, and Ukraine not to join NATO for the next 20 years. Posted here in several newspapers.


I am still not sure Catfish, why would he be in such a hurry anyways?

August
11-15-24, 09:26 AM
I am still not sure Catfish, why would he be in such a hurry anyways?


It's not going to make sense because the call never happened. Just one more piece of propaganda emanating from "anonymous sources".

Jimbuna
11-15-24, 12:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVZxHaCnF8

Jimbuna
11-15-24, 12:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFc5JC46cQA

Catfish
11-15-24, 06:54 PM
What a young russian thinks about the special operation.
F..ck them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBFLSZrchwg

Brave one.

Jimbuna
11-16-24, 05:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqPeVsu-AFA

Jimbuna
11-16-24, 05:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7lvTWXQhYE

mapuc
11-16-24, 11:18 AM
From some of the video I've seen The Russians are getting well deserved smack in their rear, in Kursk oblast.

Markus

Skybird
11-16-24, 11:47 AM
Fact is they push the Ukrainians back, slowly, but they do. In Kurks, and at Pokrowsk as well.



Russian troop levels in Ukraine slowly approach 700,000.

Jimbuna
11-16-24, 12:23 PM
Estonia to provide Ukraine with new military aid package: it will include ammunition and ballistic missile defence

The Estonian government has approved the proposal of Defense Minister Hanno Pevkur to provide Ukraine with a new military assistance package.

According to Censor.NET, this was reported byEvropeiska Pravda with reference to the press service of the Estonian Ministry of Defense.

As noted, the aid package will be assembled from the stocks of the Estonian Defense Forces, "taking into account the needs of Ukraine, but in such a way that Estonia's defense capability is not affected."

The package will include naval uniforms, surveillance devices, sights, ballistic defense equipment and various types of ammunition.

"This aid package will not be the last, and soon we will launch an annual program to support Estonian companies on a competitive basis, which will allow Ukraine to receive assistance in the production of Estonian defense industry products. This will not only support Ukraine, but also the economy and security of Estonia itself," Pevkur added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3520298

Jimbuna
11-17-24, 07:43 AM
Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war - about 720,880 people (+1,640 per day), 9,350 tanks, 20,556 artillery systems, 19,021 armored combat vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

The Ukrainian Defense Forces have eliminated 720,880 Russian invaders since the beginning of the full-scale invasion.

This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff.

As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 17.11.24 are approximately

personnel - about 720880 (+1640) people,
tanks - 9350 (+12) units
armored combat vehicles - 19021 (+27) units
artillery systems - 20556 (+36) units,
MLRS - 1252 (+0) units,
air defense systems - 999 (+0) units
aircraft - 369 (+0) units
helicopters - 329 (+0) units,
UAVs of operational and tactical level - 18974 (+60),
cruise missiles - 2641 (+0),
ships/boats - 28 (+0) units
submarines - 1 (+0) units,
motor vehicles and tank trucks - 29321 (+85) units
special equipment - 3653 (+2) Source: https://censor.net/en/n3520370

Jimbuna
11-17-24, 07:50 AM
As result of enemy attack, energy infrastructure of Odesa was damaged, there are interruptions in supply of heat, water and electricity. PHOTOS

On the morning of 17 November, Russian invaders attacked the Odesa region. They targeted critical infrastructure facilities.

According to Censor.NET, this was reported by the head of the RMA, Oleh Kiper.

As a result of the attack, there are interruptions in the supply of heat, water, and electricity in the region. Emergency power cuts are being implemented on the instructions of Ukrenergo. Hospitals and other critical infrastructure facilities are operating using generators.

"All authorized services are working to repair the damage. At the moment, specialists are taking all possible measures to restore heat and water supply within a few hours. Power engineers are continuously working to eliminate the consequences of the shelling," the statement said.

Kiper also noted that 445 resilience points have already been deployed in the region. Another 357 will be opened if necessary.

In Odesa, all-electric transport in the city is not working, and some districts have no electricity supply, Mayor Gennadiy Trukhanov said.

"As a result of the shelling, three private houses caught fire, and four other houses were partially destroyed. According to preliminary information, one teenager was injured," the State Emergency Service of Ukraine said.

As reported, on the morning of 17 November, Russian invaders launched a massive attack on the power system.

For example, the Russians struck Zaporizhzhia three times, targeting critical infrastructure. In the Volyn and Vinnytsia regions, the enemy attacked energy infrastructure during an air raid.

Censor.NET also reported that the Russian occupiers attacked Mykolaiv with several waves of drones in the morning. The enemy hit the residential sector. In addition, the Russians attacked Kyiv with drones at night, and explosions were heard.

Later, it became known that Russian troops attacked Dnipro and the region, a person was wounded and there was damage. The enemy also hit a critical infrastructure facility in Rivne region.

The Russian invaders attacked Kryvyi Rih during an air raid. Infrastructure was hit, and hospitals switched to generators.

According to DTEK, the attacks severely damaged the equipment at its thermal power plants. This is the eighth large-scale attack on the company's energy facilities this year. Since the start of the full-scale invasion, DTEK's thermal power plants have been shelled more than 190 times.

In the forests of Mukachevo and Rakhiv districts of Zakarpattia region, fragments of enemy missiles and UAVs fell outside settlements.

The enemy also attacked a critical infrastructure facility in the Ivano-Frankivsk region.

Several railway sections in the south, west, and north-east of Ukraine were cut off due to massive hostile shelling. Two railway workers were killed in the Dnipropetrovsk region.

In the Cherkasy region, the Ukrainian Armed Forces shot down 7 Shaheds and two cruise missiles, damaged a house and a power line, and set fire to forest litter. Source: https://censor.net/en/p3520392

Skybird
11-17-24, 08:11 AM
The Ukrainian energy authorities said already in late summer that over the winter they expect nation-wide blackouts lasting 20 hours per day. Heating, producing is not possible then anymore.



And that was then. Since then, in the past weeks, like every autumn, Russia has drastically increased its attacks on energy infrastructure in Ukraine. Not much is left there anymore.

Catfish
11-17-24, 11:17 AM
They are all waiting for january 2024 and the foretold end of the war [/cyn]
All await the foretold end of the war in january 2025. If all are blind, that is.

Did the US explicitely forbid Ukraine to hit Russia in the 'Hinterland' ? If lapdog Scholz acts the way he does, iI am he gets orders from somewhere.

Skybird
11-17-24, 11:47 AM
I am not that certain of what Trump really will do regarding Ukraine. The likely answer seems to be obvious, he will pull the US out. But something in me has doubts. Call it guts feeling.

Jimbuna
11-17-24, 12:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMlsEOulGxo

Jimbuna
11-17-24, 12:20 PM
Tomorrow, power outage schedules will be in effect in all regions of Ukraine - NPC Ukrenergo

On 18 November, Ukraine will introduce electricity consumption restrictions.

This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press service of Ukrenergo.

The two outage phases will operate simultaneously from 6:00 to 22:00.

"The reason for the temporary return of restrictions is the damage to power facilities during today's massive missile and drone attack. Power engineers are working to eliminate the consequences of the accident in order to return the equipment damaged by the enemy to operation as soon as possible," Ukrenergo said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3520446

mapuc
11-17-24, 01:32 PM
I am not that certain of what Trump really will do regarding Ukraine. The likely answer seems to be obvious, he will pull the US out. But something in me has doubts. Call it guts feeling.

He will tell Putin and Zelenskyy to give some land for peace-Putin will refuse to apply Trump request and so will Zelenskyy.

He will give Putin a warning: Either you say yes or we will overflow Ukraine with weapons and ammo.

Markus

August
11-17-24, 01:51 PM
He will tell Putin and Zelenskyy to give some land for peace-Putin will refuse to apply Trump request and so will Zelenskyy.

He will give Putin a warning: Either you say yes or we will overflow Ukraine with weapons and ammo.

Markus




I think this is pretty close to how it will go.

Skybird
11-17-24, 02:37 PM
He will give Putin a warning: Either you say yes or we will overflow Ukraine with weapons and ammo.

Something like that on my mind, yes.

Anyhow, just in: Biden has dropped the limitations on the use of ATACMS.

The maximum range depends, and is listed as 165-300 km.

Its assumed the Ukraine does not have many of these left, so forgive if my enthusiasm is not spiking up and high into the air. Its positive news, but as usual and as so often before: too little, too late.

Catfish
11-17-24, 02:41 PM
!!!

https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-joe-biden-erlaubt-kyjiw-angriffe-mit-waffen-groesserer-reichweite-a-b9ff6c07-f962-4df1-9bcd-6fbd86594ed4

english:
https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/ausland/ukraine-krieg-joe-biden-erlaubt-kyjiw-angriffe-mit-waffen-groesserer-reichweite-a-b9ff6c07-f962-4df1-9bcd-6fbd86594ed4?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Now let'see how lapdog Olaf reacts.

Putin must be astonished that someome reacts to *his* escalations.

Skybird
11-17-24, 03:42 PM
Cat,
Handelswoche writes there are only 600 Taurus in existence, and of these only a quarter is operation-ready. So dont expect too much and certainly also not too soon. There are plans to develope European equivalents to the Tomahawk, but the fruits of these ambitions will not be seen before 2040 at the earliest. Possible that the Taurus will get upgrades in any possible attempt to bridge the time gap until then, or to raise the number of operational units beyond ~150.

Catfish
11-17-24, 03:53 PM
I do not expect anything from Scholz, not really ;)
Just of all The Green's Habeck is for it.

Hope Ukraine gets enough long range missiles from anyone else before we get production of Taurus going.

And wouldn't it be fair and nice to send some real long range missiles towards Moscow, directly at the Kremlin. How about some real escalation.

Skybird
11-17-24, 05:30 PM
Cable hunt.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/16/russian-spy-ship-escorted-away-from-internet-cables-in-irish-sea

Reece
11-17-24, 10:33 PM
Finally good to hear that the US has given Ukraine permission to use long range missiles!! :Kaleun_Applaud:
https://apnews.com/article/biden-ukraine-long-range-weapons-russia-52d424158182de2044ecc8bfcf011f9c

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-18/ukraine-long-range-missiles-us-biden/104612892#:~:text=Ukraine%20has%20been%20calling%2 0for%20permission%20for%20two,a%20level%20far%20gr eater%20than%20present%20Ukrainian%20capacity.

em2nought
11-17-24, 11:23 PM
I expect the democrats to try and hand President Trump the biggest bag of $hit they possibly can. A full blown war we are engaged in would be just the ticket to go with 12 million illegal aliens. :hmmm:

Reece
11-17-24, 11:39 PM
I love the positive attitude!! :yeah:

Jimbuna
11-18-24, 07:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Hlcbij4Ho

Jimbuna
11-18-24, 07:22 AM
Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war are about 722,440 people (+1560 per day), 9365 tanks, 20,586 artillery systems, 19059 armoured combat vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

The Ukrainian Defence Forces have eliminated 722,440 Russian invaders since the beginning of the full-scale invasion.

This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press centre of the General Staff.

As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 18.11.24 are approximately:

personnel - about 722440 (+1560) people,

tanks - 9365 (+15) units,

armoured combat vehicles - 19059 (+38) units,

artillery systems - 20586 (+30) units,

MLRS - 1252 (+0) units,

air defence systems - 999 (+0) units,

aircraft - 369 (+0) units,

helicopters - 329 (+0) units,

UAVs of operational and tactical level - 19073 (+99),

cruise missiles - 2753 (+112),

ships/boats - 28 (+0) units,

submarines - 1 (+0) unit,

motor vehicles and tank trucks - 29428 (+107) units,

special equipment - 3655 (+2). Source: https://censor.net/en/n3520484

Skybird
11-18-24, 07:36 AM
Gen. Wesley Clarke said the decision by Bidne to allow long range strikes with ATACMS was too little and too late for Ukraine, but could help in any possible negotiations. As I said before: too litte, too late, and I do not yet believe in negotiations soon.

Its also not clear to me whether the American decision really allows Ukraine to do with the ATACMS whatever it wants. Some media report a general claim of permission to use them to their maximum range - and that it is expected that Ukraine will first use them in Kursk. Other media reports seem to imply that Ukraine is allowed to use them on Russian soil only in Kursk.



At this present time it is unclear to me what the real truth is.

Jimbuna
11-18-24, 07:38 AM
All should be revealed in the near future.

Skybird
11-18-24, 08:18 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/640/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/11/18/88357cb1-06c3-4f67-a1cf-8761fb7d1ca3.png.webp
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cjdl98dk40gt

Jimbuna
11-18-24, 08:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UapNrNvuk48

Jimbuna
11-18-24, 01:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ZNXtEg_t0

Skybird
11-18-24, 01:24 PM
Gen. Clarke also said on CNN that he expects there are targetting limitations implied, for example he expects that Ukraine is not allowed to attack military production sites.

:o

It also seems to become clear that Ukraine is allowed to strike on Russian territory only in Kursk, nowhere else.

:o :o

I stick to it, this decision is making only a cosmetical difference, none that could be decisive in any way. Its too little and too late, as usual.

Jimbuna
11-18-24, 01:25 PM
Agreed :yep:

Skybird
11-18-24, 03:24 PM
Undersea comm cable between Germany and Finland severed.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9dl4vxw501o


I assume it was an old white male shark. Its always the old white male ones, you know. :88)

Catfish
11-18-24, 04:20 PM
I expect the democrats to try and hand President Trump the biggest bag of $hit they possibly can. A full blown war we are engaged in would be just the ticket to go with 12 million illegal aliens. :hmmm:
I give a sh!t what this means to Trump and his ego, this decision should
have been made LONG BEFORE.

August
11-18-24, 07:53 PM
I give a sh!t what this means to Trump and his ego, this decision should
have been made LONG BEFORE.




It doesn't have anything to do with Trumps ego. Sounds like you hope that he fails to negotiate an end of the war.

Put your Trump TDS blinders aside for a moment answer me this. If this decision should have been made LONG BEFORE then why has it only been made now? What's changed that it's suddenly ok to cross such a longstanding red line?

Skybird
11-19-24, 01:37 AM
[Frankfurter Rundschau] A former British defence minister has sharply criticized (https://www.fr.de/politik/olaf-scholz-kritik-wladimir-putin-telefonat-ukraine-krieg-russland-ben-wallace-zr-93419667.html) German Chancellor Olaf Scholz (SPD) for his phone call with Russian strongman Vladimir Putin (https://www.fr.de/politik/olaf-scholz-kritik-wladimir-putin-telefonat-ukraine-krieg-russland-ben-wallace-zr-93419667.html). The Englishman Ben Wallace wrote on X: “It's as if Putin is laughing at him. He has manipulated the German head of government exactly where he wants him - no Taurus, but plenty of humiliation.” The 54-year-old British MP said harshly: “I think Scholz is probably more suited to chairing a sub-committee of a local council than leading a government.”

(...)

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius (SPD) has warned of the scenario that the USA could withdraw from supplying weapons to Ukraine under President-elect Donald Trump (Republican). And with a focus on the war economy in Russia (https://www.fr.de/politik/boris-pistorius-sorgt-sich-wegen-wladimir-putins-kriegswirtschaft-zr-93417579.html). Pistorius warned in the ARD program “Bericht aus Berlin” with regard to Trump's similar threats: “Europe could not, and certainly not immediately, compensate for what the Americans have supplied.”

The 64-year-old Pistorius continued: “If we look at what is happening in Russia right now: Putin's speeches are one thing. Conversion to a war economy. Russia now produces as many weapons and ammunition in three months as all the countries of the European Union do in a year.”

Reece
11-19-24, 02:16 AM
Europe needs to do the same thing obviously, for their sake I hope they do, the cost would be nothing compared to later!! :doh::hmmm:

Catfish
11-19-24, 04:16 AM
It doesn't have anything to do with Trumps ego. Sounds like you hope that he fails to negotiate an end of the war.

Put your Trump TDS blinders aside for a moment answer me this. If this decision should have been made LONG BEFORE then why has it only been made now? What's changed that it's suddenly ok to cross such a longstanding red line?
Boiling the frog, most probably.
Also this was an answer to em2nought's idea that this is *only* done to make it difficult for Trump, and this is high on my BStometer. *In that matter* no one is interested in him right now, so maybe you should put away *your* Trump-fixated blinders, look at reality and not fall for every conspiracy theory.

OT
Why is there even such hate in all these comments, Trump won. Shouldn't you be happy?
edit @August I do not mean you

Catfish
11-19-24, 04:23 AM
Europe needs to do the same thing obviously, for their sake I hope they do, the cost would be nothing compared to later!! :doh::hmmm:
This is obviously not what Europe will do, or at least it is not communicated that directly ;)

We need a general plan anyway, if there is a climate shift and a mass migration for sheer survival, those present fugitives will look like a tiny drop in comparison.

Jimbuna
11-19-24, 04:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrdzqcd0958

Jimbuna
11-19-24, 07:26 AM
Ukraine does not trade sovereignty, we will not give up rights to all our territory - Zelenskyy

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has assured that Ukraine will never give up its rights to its entire territory.

According to Censor.NET, the head of state said this during the presentation of the Ukraine's Resilience Plan in the Verkhovna Rada.

"We have already signed 27 bilateral security agreements with our partners. Almost all of them are NATO members. They support Ukraine's accession to NATO. This number shows that nothing fundamental separates us from the Alliance. Only a lack of strength and political will. By the way, not Ukrainian political will. We will convince our partners to be bold, but only together.

I am sure we can do it with you. This is not something additional or new for Ukraine. The Alliance, NATO is what we deserve. This is not a gift for us. This should be a correction of a historical mistake by our partners. What should have been done yesterday to avoid this war," he stressed.

According to Zelenskyy, Ukraine "does not trade sovereignty, security or the future of Ukraine".

‘We will not give up Ukraine's rights to its entire territory. We will definitely not allow anyone to use our country in someone's election battles in Europe. It will not be possible to win at the expense of Ukraine. We can win together with Ukraine. This is the only way. We will not abandon a rational approach to guaranteeing the rights of our state," the President added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3520763

Skybird
11-20-24, 07:34 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0dpdx420lo

[BBC] President Biden’s decision to provide anti-personnel mines to Ukraine, and allow the use of long-range missiles on Russian territory comes as the Russian military is accelerating its gains along the front line.

Data from the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) shows that Russia has gained almost six times as much territory in 2024 as it did in 2023, and is advancing towards key Ukrainian logistical hubs in the eastern Donbas region.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's surprise incursion into Russia's Kursk region is faltering. Russian troops have pushed Kyiv's offensive backwards. Experts have questioned the success of the offensive, with one calling it a "strategic catastrophe" given manpower shortages faced by Ukraine.
(...)
The ISW concludes Moscow now holds a total of 110,649 sq km in Ukraine. For comparison, Ukrainian forces seized just over 1,171 sq km in the first month of its incursion into Kursk - though Russian forces have now retaken nearly half of that territory.

Jimbuna
11-20-24, 10:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IuiRKWygJE

Jimbuna
11-20-24, 11:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0uPHbBVPjo

mapuc
11-20-24, 01:27 PM
The allowance to use longrange missiles inside Russia was to late. This approval should have come month ago.

They have created some havoc in Bryansk oblast, the 6 missiles fired against military targets.

Markus

Dargo
11-20-24, 03:27 PM
The allowance to use longrange missiles inside Russia was to late. This approval should have come month ago.

They have created some havoc in Bryansk oblast, the 6 missiles fired against military targets.

MarkusThis attack was successful and resulted in 12 explosions. Andrii Kovalenko, head of Ukraine's counter-disinformation center at the National Security and Defense Council, claimed the attack targeted the 67th arsenal of Russia's Main Missile and Artillery Directorate. Kovalenko did not specify what exactly was used to attack the arsenal, but he added that it "had been attacked by drones" earlier. The governor of Bryansk Oblast claimed this was a drone attack.

Skybird
11-20-24, 04:24 PM
https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/atacms-raketen-fuer-die-ukraine-biden-handelt-erneut-zu-spaet-ld.1858384?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


[NZZ] Biden has also limited his decision this time. According to unofficial information, the green light for the Atacms only applies to the greater Kursk area, where the Ukrainians are trying to hold on to the territory they conquered in August on Russian soil. In addition, the USA continues to block the use of British-French Storm Shadow / Scalp cruise missiles. Biden has also refrained from announcing generous supplies for the dwindling Ukrainian Atacms stocks. At least he has managed to deliver anti-personnel mines, which are very suitable for keeping the feared Russian infantry stormtroopers at a distance. What is bitter for the Ukrainians, however, is that this step was only taken after they had already lost hundreds of square kilometers of land this autumn.

The two cables that recently got cut in the Baltic shouzld ha

Jimbuna
11-21-24, 06:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4O7aTU-12E

Jimbuna
11-21-24, 07:02 AM
West does not confirm Russia’s use of intercontinental ballistic missile - ABC

The West does not confirm the use of an intercontinental ballistic missile by Russian troops against Ukraine.

This was reported by ABC News, citing a Western official, Censor.NET informs.

The official suggests that the Russians used a ballistic missile to attack Dnipro, but did not specify its type.

Putin's spokesman, Peskov, referred the question to the Russian Defence Ministry. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3521134

Skybird
11-21-24, 07:10 AM
Russia claims to have intercepted two storm shadows. Its currently a bit unclear whether "intercepted" means destroyed, or that they got their hands on them by jamming them to the ground. Also unclear is whether it really happened.


According to media reports China now also delivers combat drones. A signal for massive political changes.

Jimbuna
11-21-24, 07:43 AM
Trade sanctions on China would be quite effective if enough western countries backed them.

Jimbuna
11-21-24, 09:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLubSZhDSuM

Dargo
11-21-24, 12:53 PM
The strike on Ukraine with the R-26 Rubezh intercontinental ballistic missile is madness due to its very large minimum flight range and the enormous cost of one unit $50 million (Iskander – $10 million). The minimum flight range of this missile is 2 thousand km, while its potential launch point is less than a thousand kilometers. If such a missile is used, it will be once, maximum twice, or in the distant future, when there will be serial production of this type of missile. And for this, it is necessary to build a plant for their production. Because this missile was not adopted for service and is not included in their missile program. Therefore, there are not many of them in the Russian Federation, due to the very high cost, the Russians will not have the capacity to mass-produce such weapons.

Skybird
11-21-24, 03:57 PM
Whatever type the missiles was, its a demonstration to show that Russia has so much more tools of destruction in its arsenal that Ukraine can never hope to counter that. Russia has more men, more material, more production. Ukraine is running low with its ATACMS and possible later supply from the US also bases on limited availability, the US in essence is phasing them out via Ukraine. The production of Neptuns in Ukraine is in no way near to be sufficient, nor is the other parts of defence production in Ukraine. Zelensky admitted two day ago that without further massive support from the US Ukraine is doomed to lose for sure.

Reisner once said that Himars and such things only make a decisive difference if you have so much ammo for them that you can fire them by the many dozens per week, week for week, month for month, several multiple-missiles-attacks per day.


Col. Reisner's recent speech that I linked to yesterday, speaks volumes.

Russia is bigger, and has more, far more power and potential in numbers. And they reminded the world that they could start to unpack the real big clubs. Of which they have more than anyone else.

The West does not help Ukraine to win the war, it only prolongues the war to damage Russia further. At Ukraine'S cost. Boiling the frog it still is, and it was that from beginning on. I wrote already in 2022 that neither Paris nor Berlin nor Brussel really want Ukraine to win with flying colours, since this would shift the centre of power from the West far towards the East - and Paris and Berlin and Brussel do not want that. And the US - just want to grow the damage to Russian military and weaken it further. Russia in one year now produces three to four times as much military goods than all Europe together.

mapuc
11-21-24, 04:42 PM
I understand it was a message to the West 'Don't mess with us '

Markus

Jimbuna
11-22-24, 07:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=von5Pcnt42Q

Jimbuna
11-22-24, 07:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkPHV4jiDLk

Dargo
11-22-24, 12:10 PM
I understand it was a message to the West 'Don't mess with us '

MarkusBut the West is not in awe of this Russia launched hundreds of Iskanders on Ukraine also a missile as others (Kinzjals, Kh-101) that can have a nuclear load. But then 10 times cheaper than a IRBM. It is a tepid attempt to instill fear in the West, purely a demonstration of power. A Russian information campaign with explicit threats and nuclear muscle to discourage Western military support for Ukraine. The only new thing about Thursday's attack was the missile on itself, Putin is escalating the war anyway without caring about decisions from the West. Time after time, he refused to strike back when Western allies ramped up their support for Ukraine. Putin pushed the goalposts further each time the West saw through his blustering attempts. Putin has become increasingly entangled in his own implausible red lines. It may now be clear that Putin's red lines are simply a bluff aimed at scaring off the West and isolating Ukraine. Over the past two and a half years, his attempts to deter his international opponents have been exposed time and again. The use of empty threats highlights the weakness of his position. If Western leaders can finally overcome their fears of escalation, they will find that Putin is in a much weaker position than he would have us believe. In this way, continued attempts to dissuade the West from further aid to Ukraine may well have the opposite effect. Why would we believe anything of a Russia that has already destroyed Ukraine air force including F-16s, all HIMARS, Patriot or ATACMS batteries tenfold that still can not win strategical after +1000 days.

Russia's new "Kedr" ballistic missile hit Dnipro, says Ukrainian intelligence: the missile flew from the Astrakhan region to Dnipro in 15 minutes, carried 6 warheads with 6 sub munitions each, and reached speeds over Mach 11. Russia may have up to 10 of these missiles do not expect Russia will use more but if they do, it is ok also it weakens Russia's nuclear strategical defense how weaker it becomes the sooner China will take back Outer Manchuria.

Oops:
DOD Adjusts Nuclear Deterrence Strategy as Nuclear Peer Adversaries Escalate (https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3975117/dod-adjusts-nuclear-deterrence-strategy-as-nuclear-peer-adversaries-escalate/)

Dargo
11-22-24, 01:57 PM
Russia’s Economy Is Spoiling as Putin Struggles to Balance Guns and ButterAs President Vladimir Putin doubles down on military spending, Russia’s economy is curdling, leaving Muscovites feeling the squeeze at the checkout. Butter — a simple staple — has turned into a luxury, with prices soaring by almost 30% in 2024 amid galloping inflation and interest rates at 20-year highs. This isn’t just theory — people are now stealing butter to resell on the black market, and supermarkets have resorted to anti-theft casings typically reserved for caviar or fine whiskey. Prices are skyrocketing on other basics, too: potatoes are up 56%, eggs are once again in short supply, and the ruble has plunged to a one-year low, further eroding the purchasing power of ordinary Russians. This is more than just a budget crunch. It is a stark symbol of an economy buckling under the weight of Putin’s war-driven spending spree.

The Kremlin’s solution? Importing overpriced essentials from Iran, India, and Turkey, while Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Patrushev “monitors” prices with no plans to cap them. Meanwhile, inflation is being driven not by standard market dynamics but by relentless wartime spending that is pushing the economy to the brink. My mother-in-law learned this firsthand on a recent visit to Dublin. Last month, she was shocked to find that Brest-Litovsk butter in Moscow now costs 250 rubles ($2.47) — nearly the same price as premium Kerrygold in Ireland.

Butter prices in Russia have skyrocketed, sparking a wave of supermarket thefts as inflation accelerates amid the highest interest rates in 20 years. Some Muscovites are turning to armed robbery to obtain such a basic good as prices soar beyond the reach of many. Surveillance footage dated Oct. 29 from a Pyaterochka supermarket on Leningradskoye highway captured two men attempting to steal 25 packs of butter. As they tried to escape, a scuffle broke out at the store's exit: one robber struck a store assistant repeatedly, while the other threatened her with a knife. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/11/21/russias-economy-is-spoiling-as-putin-struggles-to-balance-guns-and-butter-a86958

Jimbuna
11-22-24, 02:03 PM
"We are exhausted. HIMARS is almost nonexistent,": Ukraine’s Armed Forces lack infantry and artillery to deter Russia’s army - The New York Times

The Ukrainian army lacks infantry and artillery to counter Russian troops, who are ready to suffer "staggering casualties."

The New York Times writes about this, citing soldiers and commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Censor.NET reports with reference to NV.

According to them, Ukrainian troops are facing a lack of combat infantry and experienced officers who could effectively lead recruits. This has weakened Ukraine's defense lines, allowing Russia to make its biggest gains of the war. The military said it was speaking publicly about the problems in hopes of conveying the urgency of the moment to military and civilian leaders, as well as the public.

"The brigades that have been fighting for a long time are simply exhausted. We are exhausted. People need to mobilize and serve. There is no other way," said a captain named Viacheslav.

Ukraine is facing a shortage of medium- and long-range weapons that are needed to effectively strike Russian logistics centers, command posts, and other important targets, the NYT reports.

"I hardly hear the HIMARS. They are almost non-existent... If we had more ammunition, it could compensate for the lack of people," said 33-year-old drone operator Sergeant Major Dmitry.

Commanders report that due to the lack of artillery, drones account for the majority of enemy casualties on the frontline (80% or more), making drone operators important targets.

"It's a constant struggle for survival: every day is a matter of luck," said Dmytro.

According to the soldiers, although the drones help, they are not able to fully stabilize the defense lines and stop the Russian offensive. Nevertheless, despite the difficulties, Ukrainian soldiers continue to make the enemy pay a high price for every advance. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3521413

Skybird
11-22-24, 06:49 PM
https://www-morgenpost-de.translate.goog/politik/article407738721/mitten-in-den-usa-probt-die-ukraine-fuer-russischen-atomschlag.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


In the fall of 2022, 35,000 Russian soldiers were surrounded near Kherson: the bridges over the Dnipro were destroyed. The makeshift crossings were under constant fire. At that time, US intelligence learned "that there was a real danger of a nuclear strike." It was discussed at the Russian tactical leadership level. The Americans sent two signals. They made it clear to Russia that they would intervene in such a case; and to Ukraine that they should tolerate the Russians' withdrawal. Reisner refers to a British newspaper that says that the then Prime Minister Liz Truss was studying weather reports at the time: she wanted to know whether there would have been nuclear fallout over Great Britain in the event of a nuclear explosion.


This means that the West will fall back every time Russia claims something too unacceptablele that it woudl seriously put its war goals into question. Which translates into Rujssia will wint he war any way, becasue any serosu threat to this outcome would make the Russias rais ethreats from whcib the Wets then would flal back. That way, the West has given up the war for beginning on. If you will fall back any time the enemy will tell you he goes nuclear if you do not let him win or put his intention to win into serious threat, then you must not even get started.


This also means: the Ukraine has lost, and is lost. I therefore see no point in continuing the slow and prolongued death of Ukraine. They should negotiate to Russia's terms and give the occupied territories up. I hate to say this, but thats how I have come to see it over the past months, since late summer.



The West makes me sick.



I would claim (and in fact do claim since summer 2022) that this was Berlin's and Paris' and Brussels' and Washington's intention from beginning on. To behave just "as if", for alibi purposes ("we tried, but the Russians were too determined..."), while just weakening Russia's military and let Ukraine pay for it with continuing self-destruction. Boiling the frog. Nobody in Europe wnats the ukraine into the European club, it would mean a massive shifting of the centre of power from the West to the East of Europe. And that was never to be accepted.



A club of liars.



I see no reallstic chance for Ukraine to "in", or to take back the occupied territories.


Russian forces on Ukrainian soil now count over 700,000, still growing. Those many propaganda videos by Ukraine on how they do thsi and that to some Russian unti here or there - in the big picture mean practically nothing, are propaganda to keep morale burning. I doubt that it works with the exhausted troops on the front. That might be the reason why Ukrainian desertations grow higher from month to month.



Babble Olaf says there should be a just peace negotiated. Well, Russia doe snto need to take care for justice or fairness. It can more or less dictate the conditions.



I hate this outcome, but again: the War is decided. Ukraine lost. The West pissed his pants. The only question now is how many more Ukrainians must die and how much more damage to cities and infrastructure it takes until Ukraine is ready to admit this grim truth.



I do not expect Trump to do anythgi s urrpsing that would massively alter the way the war is going, and then making the Ukraine winning. He will not do such a massive thing. The Pentagon btw is in a working mode of preparing for the war with China. Thats why the are boiling the Russian frog. But they possibly got the oppsoite of ehat they epcted: not a weakening of Russia, but a unifying of the anti-Western front.


I think that future historians will take the Russian assault on Ukraine as the turning point in time when the inherent slow collapse of the Western cultural sphere and its dominant relevance in the world turned open and obvious.


The next highly relevant event smashing the West will be China's challenge to the American carrier group concept. I am not putting that much confidence into these carrier groups as the Americans do. They are nice for suprerssing oinfeiror enemies. Equal enemies on same eye level thats a completely different story then. And every missile defence can be over saturated, every carrier wing can be outnumbered. Chinese losses would be high. American carriers would be gone. Who can digest this outcome better, China or the US? I think the answer is obvious. Smart weapons and AI do not care for the training expertise of crews and officers. And a simple balloon showed to be enough to raise serious problems to American defences.



The West is in decline. Thats what it all means.

Skybird
11-22-24, 07:49 PM
And more good news.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg07zw9vj1o


And Europe continues to sleep deep and soundly.

Jimbuna
11-23-24, 08:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpEjbREpEhc

Jimbuna
11-23-24, 08:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SJmli2_8BY

Otto Harkaman
11-23-24, 08:48 AM
https://youtu.be/dsTUAMa093Y?si=n1OdAEuSdVzaEYMN

Dargo
11-23-24, 09:50 AM
https://www-morgenpost-de.translate.goog/politik/article407738721/mitten-in-den-usa-probt-die-ukraine-fuer-russischen-atomschlag.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp





This means that the West will fall back every time Russia claims something too unacceptablele that it woudl seriously put its war goals into question. Which translates into Rujssia will wint he war any way, becasue any serosu threat to this outcome would make the Russias rais ethreats from whcib the Wets then would flal back. That way, the West has given up the war for beginning on. If you will fall back any time the enemy will tell you he goes nuclear if you do not let him win or put his intention to win into serious threat, then you must not even get started.


This also means: the Ukraine has lost, and is lost. I therefore see no point in continuing the slow and prolongued death of Ukraine. They should negotiate to Russia's terms and give the occupied territories up. I hate to say this, but thats how I have come to see it over the past months, since late summer.



The West makes me sick.



I would claim (and in fact do claim since summer 2022) that this was Berlin's and Paris' and Brussels' and Washington's intention from beginning on. To behave just "as if", for alibi purposes ("we tried, but the Russians were too determined..."), while just weakening Russia's military and let Ukraine pay for it with continuing self-destruction. Boiling the frog. Nobody in Europe wnats the ukraine into the European club, it would mean a massive shifting of the centre of power from the West to the East of Europe. And that was never to be accepted.



A club of liars.



I see no reallstic chance for Ukraine to "in", or to take back the occupied territories.


Russian forces on Ukrainian soil now count over 700,000, still growing. Those many propaganda videos by Ukraine on how they do thsi and that to some Russian unti here or there - in the big picture mean practically nothing, are propaganda to keep morale burning. I doubt that it works with the exhausted troops on the front. That might be the reason why Ukrainian desertations grow higher from month to month.



Babble Olaf says there should be a just peace negotiated. Well, Russia doe snto need to take care for justice or fairness. It can more or less dictate the conditions.



I hate this outcome, but again: the War is decided. Ukraine lost. The West pissed his pants. The only question now is how many more Ukrainians must die and how much more damage to cities and infrastructure it takes until Ukraine is ready to admit this grim truth.



I do not expect Trump to do anythgi s urrpsing that would massively alter the way the war is going, and then making the Ukraine winning. He will not do such a massive thing. The Pentagon btw is in a working mode of preparing for the war with China. Thats why the are boiling the Russian frog. But they possibly got the oppsoite of ehat they epcted: not a weakening of Russia, but a unifying of the anti-Western front.


I think that future historians will take the Russian assault on Ukraine as the turning point in time when the inherent slow collapse of the Western cultural sphere and its dominant relevance in the world turned open and obvious.


The next highly relevant event smashing the West will be China's challenge to the American carrier group concept. I am not putting that much confidence into these carrier groups as the Americans do. They are nice for suprerssing oinfeiror enemies. Equal enemies on same eye level thats a completely different story then. And every missile defence can be over saturated, every carrier wing can be outnumbered. Chinese losses would be high. American carriers would be gone. Who can digest this outcome better, China or the US? I think the answer is obvious. Smart weapons and AI do not care for the training expertise of crews and officers. And a simple balloon showed to be enough to raise serious problems to American defences.



The West is in decline. Thats what it all means.Cry me a river with your defeatism the West is far greater in its economy, military and nuclear deterence a couple new missles of Russia we can out produce in short time. Russian economy is the size of the New York City economy. Yes, you heard that right. Not even the State of New York. New York City GDP equals that to Russia’s. Actually, with all the sanctions and price caps on Russian oil, Im sure New York GDP now is higher than Russian. Considering Russian economy is about 60% exports of what they dig out of the ground, considering their minimal wage is like $ 100 per month, millions of people living below poverty line, Russia has no place anywhere near economical charts of developed countries. The funny part is that the USSR produced far more manufactured goods (as a percentage of GDP) compared with Putinistic Russia. The communists were 'striving' to buy and produce technologies, and tried to be technologically independent. Putin's Russia is not even able to produce efficient oil and gas extraction equipment. Russia needs the West, the West doesn’t need Russia! Even a small European nation like the Netherlands scores a GDP of 1,0 trillion (Russia GDP $2,24 trillion) with just 17 million population and limited natural resources. The difference between Norway and Russia in average living standards is 90 percent, highest in the world between two countries with common border (UN/OECD,2018). And we are in decline sure dream on. 1 Russian Ruble equals 0,0092 Euro wow what a glorious progress.

Skybird
11-23-24, 10:20 AM
Jajajaaa... Always the same song of ignorring the reality that is laid out right before your eyes, but does not look like you want it to be. Well, reality is more convincing than you. And reality is that Russia succeeds faster and faster in the derstruction of Ukraine. Your acceptance of this reality is not needed for it to be like it is. Reality simply is fact. And the facts speak against you since many, many months.

Take me by my word. Russia keeps the five occupied oblasts. The only question left is how much more destruction Ukraine will sustain before the government quits.

Because by the end of it all, wars get won not by words and ideas and hopes, but battles won, sufficient reserves to endure it, ground taken an dheld, and destruction applied to the enemy. Russia looses many men, yes. Obviously it can diugest that - every month it sends another 30-35 thousand in, additonal to those already there. The losses Ukraine suffers, industrially, economically, militarily in regards to material and men, cannot be replaced that easy. And the numerical superiority of Russia is not stable, but it grows even further every month.


Realism is no defeatism at all, but sense of responsibility. Hope is no strategy. Propaganda is no surrogate for lacking supplies.

Dargo
11-23-24, 10:41 AM
Jajajaaa... Always the same song of ignorring the reality that is laid out right before your eyes, but does not look like you want it to be. Well, reality is more convincing than you. And reality is that Russia succeeds faster and faster in the derstruction of Ukraine. Your acceptance of this reality is not needed for it to be like it is. Reality simply is fact. And the facts speak against you since many, many months.

Take me by my word. Russia keeps the five occupied oblasts. The only question left is how much more destruction Ukraine will sustain before the government quits.

Because by the end of it all, wars get won not by words and ideas and hopes, but battles won, sufficient reserves to endure it, ground taken an dheld, and destruction applied to the enemy. Russia looses many men, yes. Obviously it can diugest that - every month it sends another 30-35 thousand in, additonal to those already there. The losses Ukraine suffers, industrially, economically, militarily in regards to material and men, cannot be replaced that easy. And the numerical superiority of Russia is not stable, but it grows even further every month.


Realism is no defeatism at all, but sense of responsibility. Hope is no strategy. Propaganda is no surrogate for lacking supplies.This no hope but facts you are stuck with ukraine lost terretory but that does not determine a defeat or victory for the West. Ukraine in the Western bloc is key strategical goal no matter what Ukraine suffers, industrially, economically, militarily that can and will be rebuild like we did after WW2 with Germany the West is already doing that. More on the Russian superiority a country that depends 80% on pariah countries for its war production and largly on China to keep up its economy. Russia has an annual military budget of $48 billion and Ukraine's budget is $5.4 billion. NATO's eastern block has an annual military budget of $30 billion. Other European NATO countries have a budget of $246 billion roughly x5 that of Russia. The combined budget of Sweden and Finland is $10 billion. The total military budget of NATO (including the U.S. and Canada) however amounts to more than $1 trillion.

Skybird
11-23-24, 11:40 AM
That are academical finger exercises. And while you practice them, Ukraine more and more gets bombed into oblivion and its forces more and more must fall back and dont know in and out anymore. Atrition war. And Ukraine is at the losing end of it. Necessarily. Its a smaller people, a smaller country, a smaller production capacityo f which much is destroyed already and anorhg rbgi share is hampered, and its powerplants almpast all are DESTROYED. And you play number games about Rubles in the future and speculations about Russia'S future economyin the future...? Thats hypertheoretical and disconnected form t he rpesen reality. It simpy, doe snot matter what will be in two years in Russia. Ukraine gets bombe dinto oieces right now. And the nRussian ever pump up the volume and so far nothign the West has done seriosuly impressed them. Not to mention: stopped them. The pump up the volume instead.



Russia produces military stuff currently in three month what all of Europe produces in a full year. Russia produces four times more miliutary stuff per time than all of Europe together. That is no theory. No future. That is NOW. And nobody in Europe has answered that so far. Nor seems to be capable. Nor seems to be willing.



What will happen with Russia and Ukraine in the years after the war, does not interest me at present, thats just entertainment and speculation. How Ukraine can survive the imminent present - that is the problem, and it commands any other problem to step aside for the time being. They are running out of breath very, very rapidly.



Right your way of arguing and speculation about a future is the reason why the West does not get its acts together in this confict.



When you have your head under water and cant get air, I hardly believe you would in these seconds then mind to plan your next year's summer holiday and wondering how many Mexican Pesos you get for your Euros.

mapuc
11-23-24, 12:24 PM
I think you are both right in sort of a way.

It's not going so bad for Russia as some may tell us and it's not going so bad for Ukraine as some may tell us.

Markus

Dargo
11-23-24, 12:25 PM
That are academical finger exercises. And while you practice them, Ukraine more and more gets bombed into oblivion and its forces more and more must fall back and dont know in and out anymore. Atrition war. And Ukraine is at the losing end of it. Necessarily. Its a smaller people, a smaller country, a smaller production capacityo f which much is destroyed already and anorhg rbgi share is hampered, and its powerplants almpast all are DESTROYED. And you play number games about Rubles in the future and speculations about Russia'S future economyin the future...? Thats hypertheoretical and disconnected form t he rpesen reality. It simpy, doe snot matter what will be in two years in Russia. Ukraine gets bombe dinto oieces right now. And the nRussian ever pump up the volume and so far nothign the West has done seriosuly impressed them. Not to mention: stopped them. The pump up the volume instead.



Russia produces military stuff currently in three month what all of Europe produces in a full year. Russia produces four times more miliutary stuff per time than all of Europe together. That is no theory. No future. That is NOW. And nobody in Europe has answered that so far. Nor seems to be capable. Nor seems to be willing.



What will happen with Russia and Ukraine in the years after the war, does not interest me at present, thats just entertainment and speculation. How Ukraine can survive the imminent present - that is the problem, and it commands any other problem to step aside for the time being. They are running out of breath very, very rapidly.



Right your way of arguing and speculation about a future is the reason why the West does not get its acts together in this confict.



When you have your head under water and cant get air, I hardly believe you would in these seconds then mind to plan your next year's summer holiday and wondering how many Mexican Pesos you get for your Euros.I do not worry for next summer my investments also those in Ukraine will be ok I would be stupid not to profit from a +7 trillion deal like the west including Trump will not be that stupid. This is not speculation this is a fact in a captalist system we the west will not give it away to the anti west bloc.

Jimbuna
11-23-24, 12:50 PM
There is every chance to end war in 2025, in January we will see Trump’s proposals - Zelenskyy

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that Ukraine has every chance to end the war next year. It is necessary to hear new proposals from US President-elect Donald Trump on a plan to end the war, which may be possible in January.

The head of state said this during the 3rd International Conference on Food Security Grain from Ukraine on Saturday, November 23, Interfax-Ukraine reports, Censor.NET reports.

"We are open, I will say it again, and by the way, to the leaders of African countries, Asia, and the Arab states... We are ready to see their proposals. I also want to see the proposals of the new President of the United States of America. I think we will see these proposals in January. And I think we will have a plan to end this war," Zelenskyy said.

The president also said that he "did not want the Russian quality of disinformation to influence people, that we have only our plan and we do not want to hear from other partners from other continents." He says this is not true.

Zelenskyy also emphasized that the global South will be on the side of Ukraine and on the side of ending the war when the United States has a stronger position.

"I am confident that we have every chance to do this (end the war - ed.) next year. There are appropriate steps for this... We understand that Russia will not take all these steps. But there is a UN Charter, and all our steps based on the UN Charter will be supported by our partners," the head of state added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3521549

Jimbuna
11-23-24, 01:03 PM
Armenia and Georgia are next on the menu for the Russian Bear

Winston Churchill's famous remark that Russia was a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma needs revisiting. After Putin's brutal assault on Ukraine, there seems nothing enigmatic about his intentions.

Nearly three years ago as his columns of tanks made for Kyiv, the Russian President wanted the subjugation of Ukraine and its absorption into a newly expansionist Russia.

Today, with the conflict bogged down in horrendous trench warfare in the east, repeated Russian missile strikes on Ukraine's civilians and infrastructure, and Donald Trump about to return to the White House, the world is waiting to see if Putin's war can be brought to an end - and on what terms.

Yet Churchill's words, uttered at the outset of the Second World War, and after the ruinous failure of appeasement of Nazi Germany, still have resonance for our times. Putin's blitzkrieg against innocent Ukraine runs the risk of blinding us to his wider and even more sinister ambitions.

Not that he has made any secret of them with his public statements. It is just that the West hasn't listened or declined to take him seriously.

This is a man who has called the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 as the "greatest geopolitical disaster of the 20th century" and who has demanded that the West rolls back military protection not only from the former territories of the Soviet Union but from all the countries of the former Warsaw Pact as well.

Putin's nightmarish dream - in which Ukraine is no more than a recent construct of the Bolsheviks and Lenin in the early 1920s - is the reconstitution of Imperial Russia, the one of the Czars, not the only slightly more modest but grimmer project of the Communists.

So, pulling harder at the threads of the riddle, the master plan becomes clearer and more alarming.

Ukraine may be under constant bombardment, but smaller but equally pivotal countries such as Georgia and Armenia are already coming under pressure from a hungry bear. Meanwhile, Belarus and Azerbaijan are already drawn into Moscow's orbit.

Take Georgia. In the last few days protesters in the Moscow-backed breakaway region of Abkhazia have stormed the parliament in a bid to stop a controversial investment deal with Moscow.

In the capital Tbilisi, an opposition politician hurled black paint over the head of Georgia's electoral commission in a separate protest against alleged fraud in the elections won last month by the ruling pro-Russian Georgian Dream party.

Armenia once again finds itself caught in a perilous situation. This time it is Erdoan's neo-Ottoman ambitions and Putin's cruel grandiosity that are reshaping the region via their proxy, the oil-rich, autocratic Azerbaijan.

The latter's military aggression in the Nagorno-Karabakh region in the fall of 2020, supported by both Russia and Turkey, reignited a dormant territorial conflict, resulting in Armenia's capitulation on November 9, 2020. The continued Azeri aggression, which included a blockade and starvation of civilians, led to the expulsion of 120,000 Armenians from their historic lands in September 2023.

Armenia has been a plaything of Russian and Turkish imperialism before - most notably after World War I when these two countries forcibly partitioned the land. Now, it appears the same actors have had had inside help, which Armenia's Prime Minister, Nikol Pashinyan, has admitted.

His passivity and indecisive response during the war exposed a critical failure in leadership on his part and likely made him part of a premeditated plot. The resulting failure to deter aggression gave Azerbaijan and its partners, Russia and Turkey, a window to act decisively, resulting in territorial losses for Armenia that crippled that nation's defences beyond repair.

By allowing Armenia to fall prey to Russian and Turkish ambitions without strong international intervention, while simultaneously neglecting Georgia's pro-EU aims, Western powers risk repeating the grave errors of past appeasement.

The strategic corridor encompassing Armenia and Georgia is a critical juncture between Europe and Asia, and its stability or instability has ramifications beyond local borders.

An effective Russian takeover of this corridor would embolden authoritarian regimes, as seen historically when ambitious powers are met with insufficient resistance. Western inaction on Armenian territorial defences is combined with lukewarm support for Georgian EU ambitions-failures that collectively embolden Russia's quest for regional dominance.

The need for decisive action is not only a matter of regional stability but a question of global strategic integrity.

Only through clear-eyed and resolute support can the international community prevent a historic repeat, safeguarding these nations from the ambitions that would otherwise seek to dominate them in a landscape eerily reminiscent of pre-World War II Europe.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/armenia-and-georgia-are-next-on-the-menu-for-the-russian-bear/ar-AA1uCNp2?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=8675c65c908d4c3ab0328e370ee22ef5&ei=18

Skybird
11-23-24, 01:32 PM
in a captalist system we the west will not give it away
Look at what the Green-Reds have done to the German economy in the last three years, and then look me straight into the eyes and repeat what you have just said. ;)
Dont be surprised if I then must giggle.

Skybird
11-23-24, 01:38 PM
Alleged Russian plan sees Ukraine 'cut' into 3 parts, intelligence source says

https://kyivindependent.com/secret-russian-plan-sees-ukraine-cut-into-3-parts-intelligence-source-confirms/

Jimbuna
11-23-24, 01:41 PM
Russia’s Kill Lists: Ukraine Reveals Chilling Pre-Invasion Plans


New details have surfaced about Russia’s chilling plans for Ukraine in the event of a successful invasion.

Lieutenant General Kyrylo Budanov, Head of Defence Intelligence of Ukraine, revealed that Moscow had prepared "kill lists" targeting influential Ukrainians.

These lists were part of a systematic strategy to eliminate figures central to Ukraine’s identity and resistance, according to Pravda.

Speaking at the Genocidal Practices of the Russian Federation in Ukraine forum, Budanov explained that the lists included teachers, veterans, clergy, and journalists.

These groups were seen as critical to maintaining Ukrainian culture and sovereignty.

Budanov emphasized that the atrocities committed in cities like Bucha, Borodianka, Hostomel, and Mariupol were not random acts of violence but part of a coordinated plan.

Russian forces, he claimed, had even been briefed on the locations of mass graves before the invasion began.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-s-kill-lists-ukraine-reveals-chilling-pre-invasion-plans/ar-AA1uCs9J?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=748720aacd0c4a0b9b39952fcb1fda3c&ei=13

Dargo
11-23-24, 01:49 PM
Alleged Russian plan sees Ukraine 'cut' into 3 parts, intelligence source says

https://kyivindependent.com/secret-russian-plan-sees-ukraine-cut-into-3-parts-intelligence-source-confirms/Cute how Putin thinks he sits at the table, but we do not allow dogs at the table he can sit under it and we gone allow him to eat the bare bones we kick at him.

Dargo
11-23-24, 04:48 PM
Senator Graham on Trump’s "deal" for Ukraine:
"Ukraine is Europe’s richest country in rare minerals—worth $2-7 trillion. That’s why the U.S. must help Ukraine win against Russia. Trump’s plan ensures a strong economic partnership, benefiting both nations: peace, rare minerals, and prosperity." https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3lbngud3bls26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TRPk3N8FyQ

Jimbuna
11-24-24, 08:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQkveJCJxaw

Jimbuna
11-24-24, 08:11 AM
Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war are about 730,740 people (+1020 per day), 9,423 tanks, 20,765 artillery systems, 19,209 armored combat vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

The Ukrainian Defense Forces have eliminated 730,740 Russian invaders since the beginning of the full-scale invasion.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff.

As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 24.11.24 are approximately

personnel - about 730740 (+1020) people,

tanks - 9423 (+4) units

armored combat vehicles - 19209 (+17) units

artillery systems - 20765 (+5) units,

MLRS - 1254 (+0) units,

air defense systems - 1004 (+0) units

airplanes - 369 (+0) units

helicopters - 329 (+0) units,

UAVs of operational and tactical level - 19366 (+1),

cruise missiles - 2764 (+0),

ships/boats - 28 (+0) units

submarines - 1 (+0) units,

motor vehicles and tankers - 29864 (+14) units

special equipment - 3679 (+1) Source: https://censor.net/en/n3521592

Dowly
11-24-24, 07:43 PM
https://i.imgur.com/65nLDHS.jpg


Sixth Finnish volunteer killed in eastern Ukraine

A Finnish medic has been killed during the Russian offensive against Ukraine. He is the sixth Finn confirmed killed in Ukraine.

A Finnish volunteer fighter who fought in the Ukrainian armed forces was killed in Ukraine. The Your Finnish Friends association, which assists volunteers, reports the news on its social media channels.

Volunteer "Sipa" was a medic in the 1st Infantry Platoon of the International Legion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Your Finnish Friends does not provide further details on the circumstances of his death.

He is the sixth Finn confirmed to have died fighting on the Ukrainian side. The last casualty was Ville Mykkänen, a youth activist from the Centre for Youth, who was killed in early August. Mykkänen was killed in Luhansk, eastern Ukraine, by mortar shrapnel, according to Helsingin Sanomat. In July, a Finnish volunteer was also killed - also in eastern Ukraine, north of Donetsk.

According to the Your Finnish Friends association, there are dozens of Finnish volunteers fighting on the Ukrainian side in various positions.

Skybird
11-25-24, 07:51 AM
https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/meinung/gastbeitrag-von-gabor-steingart-sieben-unbequeme-wahrheiten-offenbaren-den-miserablen-zustand-unserer-verteidigung_id_260508342.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


The illustrations are quite eye-opening.

Jimbuna
11-25-24, 07:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF1oE5Kkcw4

Jimbuna
11-25-24, 08:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYd1-jHkW0

Dargo
11-25-24, 02:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rpZihqjd7s

Skybird
11-25-24, 04:45 PM
Russia has escalated on all ends of the war, and tries to retake Kurks until Trump enters office. It has taken up to 50% of it already.

[/URL][URL]https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/politik/Putins-Hyperschall-Mittelstreckenrakete-Russland-hat-auf-allen-Ebenen-der-Kriegsfuehrung-eskaliert-article25386028.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/politik/Putins-Hyperschall-Mittelstreckenrakete-Russland-hat-auf-allen-Ebenen-der-Kriegsfuehrung-eskaliert-article25386028.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

Skybird
11-26-24, 05:01 AM
Russia continues to intensify its bombardment of Ukraine and during the night attacked with a record number of almost 200 drones simultaneously, which obviously overwhelmed the Ukrainian air defenses; not even half of the drones could be fended off. Iskander missiles were also used. The attacks focused on the remains of what used to be Ukraine's electricity production and heating infrastructure. With the falling temperatures in winter, this is disastrous, as the water pipes in still intact but unheated houses burst when it freezes, leading to severe water damage later on, which then also makes these houses uninhabitable.

This is what Russian warfare is all about: making Ukraine and its cities uninhabitable and forcing people to give these places up and flee.

Reece
11-26-24, 06:13 AM
Miserable pieces of evil crap!! :Kaleun_Mad:

Jimbuna
11-26-24, 08:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=100i7ddF9Cw

Jimbuna
11-26-24, 08:52 AM
Production in EU has not yet accelerated. Czech initiative will be continued in 2025, they have already found lots of shells for Ukraine - Lipavsky

Ukraine will need ammunition in 2025, so the so-called Czech initiative will continue.

This was stated by Czech Foreign Minister Jan Lipavsky in an interview with Yevropeiska Pravda, answering the question what will happen to the Czech initiative, which helps to purchase ammunition for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in third countries, Censor.NET reports.

"Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala, together with the Prime Minister of Denmark and the Prime Minister of the Netherlands, have already agreed to continue this in 2025 <...> For 2025, we have already found a large number of already manufactured ammunition around the world that can be purchased for the Armed Forces," he said, adding that Ukraine will also need shells next year.

Speaking about ammunition for the Ukrainian Armed Forces this year, the Czech minister assured that everything that was planned would be done.

"This year we have promised that in case of sufficient international support we will purchase and transfer half a million large-caliber ammunition to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And we will fulfill it," Lipavsky said.

The Czech foreign minister could not say exactly how many shells have been transferred and how many more will be transferred, but his colleagues responsible for the scheme assured him that the required figure will be reached by the end of 2024.

The Czech minister also said that a significant portion of the ammunition is coming from warehouses.

"Given the fact that defense production in the EU has not yet ramped up, we have found stockpiles of shells around the world and are buying them," the Czech Foreign Minister said.

According to him, some of the shells are restored to make sure they are in working order, and then sent to Ukraine. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3521976

Jimbuna
11-26-24, 12:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdebwn-vQ8A

Dargo
11-26-24, 12:39 PM
Ukraine Announces Plans for New CounteroffensiveCommander of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Oleksandr Syrskyi has announced plans for a future counteroffensive, reported military analyst and blogger Kyrylo Sazonov on November 25.

Syrskyi pointed out the necessity of offensive operations to achieve victory.

“Stopping the enemy is essential,” Syrskyi stated.

“But victory is impossible if the Armed Forces of Ukraine only play defense. We need to seize the initiative and counterattack. We must, and we will. Where and when—stay tuned.”

“The Pokrovsk direction is tough, but the situation is better than it was a week ago when it was truly critical,” Syrskiy said.

“Some units were retreating, leaving positions with no replacements. It was a real crisis. However, the problem has been resolved, reserves have been deployed, and the enemy’s plans have been disrupted.”

On the Pokrovsk front, the disparity in manpower between Russian forces and Ukraine’s defense forces is reportedly 5:1, Syrskyi noted.

“Russia is meeting its mobilization quotas and adding new contract soldiers, but their losses have exceeded all predictions,” Sazonov relayed.

“This has disrupted their system. The enemy already feels a shortage of reserves and cannot replenish units quickly enough after losses. If earlier, an armored vehicle carried eight to ten troops, now it transports just three. The enemy command did not anticipate such heavy casualties, and they have no alternative tactics.” https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukraine-announces-plans-for-new-counteroffensive-4025

Jimbuna
11-26-24, 12:54 PM
Chancellor Nehammer offers Trump to hold peace talks between Russia and Ukraine in Austria

Austrian Federal Chancellor Karl Nehammer, in a conversation with US President-elect Donald Trump, suggested that peace talks between Russia and Ukraine should be held in Austria.

He said this in an interview with PULS 24 TV channel, Censor.NET reports.

"I suggested Austria as a good place for negotiations, as a neutral country," said Nehammer.

He also added that the phone conversation between him and Trump on Monday "quickly turned to the topic of the war between Russia and Ukraine."

"Trump asked for my opinion because I, as one of the few, met with Putin and Zelenskyy. He also shared his vision. And very quickly we started talking about how important peace is and how important it is to stop the war," the Austrian chancellor said.

In his opinion, Austria's neutrality can be used to good effect.

At the same time, when asked whether Trump wants to reduce military support for Ukraine, Nehammer said that he got the impression that Trump is "very emotional, in a positive way, about ending the war" and "very interested in silencing the weapons."

He also did not specify whether Trump expects territorial concessions from Ukraine: according to him, the conversation lasting almost 30 minutes did not go into such details. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522035

mapuc
11-26-24, 03:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKEBgbHS-AI

Markus

Skybird
11-26-24, 03:51 PM
Chancellor Nehammer offers Trump to hold peace talks between Russia and Ukraine in Austria
Austria. :) A political scene and political landscape even more corrupt and decadent than that in Germany, if I can trust what I read about it time and again. Also, they heavily depended on Russian gas until Ukraine stopped the transfer recently. Austria has a strong interest of making this gas flowing again.

Nehammer cannot be a neutral lawyer/mediator.

mapuc
11-26-24, 04:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUfm6AbtJ0g

Markus

Skybird
11-26-24, 05:39 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9dl2pv0yj0o

Russian deserter reveals war secrets of guarding a nuclear base.

In the past 15 years or so I said Russia would launch a war if Crimea is at risk to get lost again after 2014, or if Ukraine joins NATO, that Putin was determined to not allow any of these two events happening was always clear to me. Seen that way I was less surprised of a war itself breaking out in February 2022 than many others - I was just very much surprised however about that date, since at that time neither NATO membership nor loss of Crimea was in any way imminent. The chance I always saw, but I was stunned by the timing, that was completely unexpected. It was possibly a logic of prophylaxis since the time was faovurable with only weak leaders at the helm in Western major nations and the EU completely owned by its stupid self-crucification and woke and eco policy making things. Make hay while the sun shines.

I think in the imminent future we will see more and more escalation by Russia, deep into the winter and at least until Trump goes into office. Not only does Putin want to teach Trump a lesson, at least a message, but he also tries to bomb Ukraine into the iceage. He also wants to retake Kursk before Trump goes into office. That the Russians will retake Kursk I have no doubt, whether they manage to do so within that timetable however is not so certain.

Jimbuna
11-27-24, 06:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sg3eiJUAow

Jimbuna
11-27-24, 06:53 AM
Ukraine has received $4.8 billion from World Bank: Shmyhal tells what funds will be used for

Ukraine has received $4.8 billion from the World Bank as part of the PEACE project.

This was announced by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmyhal on his telegram channel, Censor.NET reports.

What funds will be used for?
According to him, this is the largest investment project in the Bank's history, launched to support our country in implementing reforms, social and educational sectors, healthcare, agricultural producers, and reconstruction projects.

In total, almost $50 billion has been raised through World Bank mechanisms during the full-scale war.

"We are extremely grateful to the United States and development partners who fund assistance under the PEACE project. We are grateful to the World Bank for its constant involvement and active support of initiatives that strengthen Ukraine," Shmyhal sums up. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522121

Skybird
11-27-24, 07:08 AM
There are inconsistent reports scattered around in the media that Russia managed to surprise Ukraine south of Pokrovsk and acchieving what indeed is described as a breakthrough, pushing the Ukrainian frontline in that area back by 20 km in one rush and now standing at the outskirts of outer southern satellites of Pokrovsk. If that is true this could mark the beginning of the collapse of the ukrainian front in that sector that I predicted a few weeks back. Ukrainian forces at Pokrovsk now seem to be in immediate danger to get encircled and then would be lost, it seems as if the Russian have bypassed the whole Ukrainian defence line south of the city instead of breaking through it. The fall of Pokrovsk would mark a major event , behind it is just open undefended terrain. If Russia has the reserves ready for that manouver, they then could rush in one effort as far as up to the Dnjepr: a strategic and tactical desaster.

Jimbuna
11-27-24, 07:50 AM
Kremlin's unyielding stance: Demands full capitulation of Ukraine

Senior Russian officials indicate that the Kremlin is not seeking compromises in the war against Ukraine, write analysts from the American Institute for the Study of War (ISW).

On Tuesday, the director of the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), Sergey Naryshkin, stated that Russia is open to negotiations but added that Moscow "categorically rejects" any "freezing" of the current front line or the establishment of a demilitarized zone.

The Kremlin wants Ukraine's "complete capitulation"
"Naryshkin alleged that the 'elimination' of the reasons that 'caused' Russia to launch its full-scale invasion of Ukraine is the only way to ensure peace — demonstrating that Russia continues to uncompromisingly demand Ukraine's full capitulation", as reported.

Experts remind us that the Kremlin has repeatedly insisted that Ukraine relinquish all territories of the four Ukrainian regions that are currently not occupied by Russian troops.

"ISW also recently forecasted that the Russian military command is likely planning how to advance into the southeasternmost part of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast — notably not one of the four illegally annexed oblasts — in support of Russia's longstanding objective to seize all of Donetsk Oblast," add analysts from the Institute for the Study of War.

Full occupation and division of Ukraine into "three parts"
On Friday, the Main Intelligence Directorate (HUR) of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine announced that it "has been familiarized with a document prepared in Russia with a forecast of the development of the military-political situation in the world until 2045, which proposes a plan to divide Ukrainian territory into three parts." This document envisages the division of Ukrainian territory into three parts.

Regarding the possible division of Ukraine, there is no doubt that Russia's strategic goal remains the full occupation of our country, emphasized HUR Deputy Head Vadym Skibitsky, stressing that to have strong economic, demographic, territorial, and military potential, "Putin needs all of Ukraine."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/kremlin-s-unyielding-stance-demands-full-capitulation-of-ukraine/ar-AA1uPUDX?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2ce461805ca542438a017776dc00a834&ei=26

Jimbuna
11-27-24, 09:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7_NMeffkrw

mapuc
11-27-24, 10:23 AM
Huge losses yes, however they gain land in their effort.

The advancing of the Russian army in Ukraine is growing. Where they only manage to take a few meters per day last year, they now take hundreds of meters each day.

I still say it will take years before entire Ukraine have been occupied by the Russians. Wonder if the Russian economy will crash before this or not.

Markus

Skybird
11-27-24, 10:40 AM
In fact since they launched their summer offensive they gained more than six times as much territory than in all of 2023 - and the pace at which their offensive pushes forward is still accelerating and their manpower in Ukraine despite their losses is gaining constantly.



Whereas Ukraine runs out of everything. Which helps the Russians to speed up their advance: its not just Russian superiority, but Ukrainian decline. A war of attrition necessarily must be won by Russia, and Ukriane I think does not have what it takes anymore to try another offensive next year. Even more so at what I would call a fiasco in Kursk. Russia did not take the bait. Uklraine'S sacrifice were in vein. Their now gone forces would have been needed in the south and east.



Its like in WW2. Nazi Germany lost while tactically and technically being superior - but it got outproduced and outmanned.

Dargo
11-27-24, 12:03 PM
The war production has more and a more negative effect on the Russian economy risking they can not control it anymore if they fail this year Russian economical and war production (in 2025 stock will start to see the bottom and new production will only worsen the economy) will start to crash in 2026. The damage will be huge and will take long to recover from it.Russia’s Central Bank will refrain from purchasing foreign currency on the domestic market from November 28 through the end of 2024. According to the bank’s press release, this decision was made “to reduce financial market volatility” and is being implemented “in alignment with the Russian Finance Ministry’s regular operations” under fiscal tightening measures.

At the same time, the Central Bank will continue to sell foreign currency as part of replenishing and utilizing funds from the National Wealth Fund.

The decision to resume operations on the domestic currency market will be made by the regulator “based on the prevailing situation in financial markets.” “Deferred purchases will be carried out in 2025,” the Central Bank stated. https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/11/27/russia-s-central-bank-to-suspend-foreign-currency-purchases-through-end-of-year

mapuc
11-27-24, 01:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHbpqegQDyU

Edit
A person wrote something interesting on YT.
"So, if russia is “winning the war”, why do they buy weapons in DPRK and Iran, and hire mercenaries all around the world to fight against the “weak, losing Ukraine”? "
End edit

Markus

Jimbuna
11-27-24, 02:30 PM
Seven European countries promise to increase supplies of ammunition to Ukraine

Seven European countries plan to increase aid to Ukraine in the coming months. In particular, it concerns the supply of ammunition.

This is stated in a joint statement by the heads of government of Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Norway, Poland and Sweden, Censor.NET reports citing RBC-Ukraine.

The prime ministers noted that Ukraine must be able to withstand Russian aggression to ensure a comprehensive, just and lasting peace.

"In the coming months, we will increase our support, including to the Ukrainian defense industry, and invest in providing more ammunition for Ukraine," the statement said.

The countries also assured that they are committed to strengthening deterrence and defense against conventional and hybrid attacks, as well as expanding sanctions against Russia and those who support Russian aggression. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522244

mapuc
11-27-24, 03:07 PM
There's a rumour floating in the corridor in the NATO's headquarter.

The rumour say something about sending instructors to western part of Ukraine.

Did I hear it right ? I thought there already was a few instructors in Ukraine.

Markus

Dargo
11-27-24, 03:22 PM
There's a rumour floating in the corridor in the NATO's headquarter.

The rumour say something about sending instructors to western part of Ukraine.

Did I hear it right ? I thought there already was a few instructors in Ukraine.

MarkusAll those western equipments includes western personnel.

Dargo
11-27-24, 03:29 PM
“If panic occurs now (and it can happen simply due to fear among the Russian population, say, through social media rumors), everything could collapse in a matter of days.”

- Economist

“The Russian economy is indeed on the brink of collapse and disintegration, despite all the talk about “resiliency.” Yes, many economists predicted the collapse of the Russian economy back in 2022 and were wrong in their estimates of the speed. This was mainly because they underestimated the level of the Russian state’s preparation for war, and credit must be given to the Central Bank for their knowledge and agility.

However, economic indicators are still taking their toll, and the economy is faltering.

Many economic indicators, such as GDP growth and inflation, are manipulated by the government, and they managed the dollar exchange rate quite well. But remember when the dollar crossed the 100 mark last year. Even someone from Putin’s administration publicly stated that this was bad. They then lowered the rate to 88-92 and kept it there. Now that it is again over 100, it seems they no longer have the levers to control it.

The dollar exchange rate is perhaps the simplest indicator to focus on now. If they can’t control it, things are likely very bad. And if the dollar appreciates by 20%, a new round of inflation should be expected. If there is panic, there will be a collapse of everything, worse than in 1998.

The government understands the risk of panic; look at the statements that salaries are in rubles, the dollar exchange rate is not important, and the interest rate is just a number and nothing to worry about. https://x.com/officejjsmart/status/1861832237689479506

Skybird
11-27-24, 04:02 PM
The war production has more and a more negative effect on the Russian economy risking they can not control it anymore if they fail this year Russian economical and war production (in 2025 stock will start to see the bottom and new production will only worsen the economy) will start to crash in 2026. The damage will be huge and will take long to recover from it.
Ukraine will be done by then.

https://www-zeit-de.translate.goog/politik/2024-11/bnd-chef-bruno-kahl-russland-angriff-nato?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


[Die Zeit][I] According to the President of the Federal Intelligence Service ( BND (https://www-zeit-de.translate.goog/thema/bnd?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) ), Bruno Kahl, Russia could launch an attack on NATO (https://www-zeit-de.translate.goog/thema/nato?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp) territory in the coming years . " [URL="https://www-zeit-de.translate.goog/thema/r

Dargo
11-27-24, 04:18 PM
Ukraine will be done by then.Russia also this war does not end in 2025 for both sides Russia is already spinning out of control damage is done.

mapuc
11-27-24, 04:19 PM
Let us see how it goes with Trumps peace plan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlWnvCoDo-o

Markus

Skybird
11-27-24, 04:25 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/27/europe/ukraine-drones-russian-advances-pokrovsk-intl/index.html


Since longer time Russian units are under command to not take prisoners anymore, but to kill them.

Skybird
11-27-24, 05:33 PM
https://youtube.com/shorts/QIfhnVhQY4E?si=zQxsRqyPhEPCTwQ3

So much for "Russia cannot maintain this." Another two to three years.

The real question is how Ukraine should sustain this another two or three years.

mapuc
11-27-24, 06:12 PM
The real numbers behind the daily Russian losses.

When we read 1000 or more Russian causalities we do not see the real figure.

Some percentage have lost their life.
Some percentage have suffered so much wound that they will not return.
The rest which is a major part have only suffered between moderate to minor.

Which mean we do not know how many of these 1000 or more Russian do return to duty.

Markus

mapuc
11-27-24, 06:14 PM
https://youtube.com/shorts/QIfhnVhQY4E?si=zQxsRqyPhEPCTwQ3

So much for "Russia cannot maintain this." Another two to three years.

The real question is how Ukraine should sustain this another two or three years.

The question would be:

Would they if there wasn't NK or Iran ?

Markus

Skybird
11-28-24, 04:13 AM
The question would be:

Would they if there wasn't NK or Iran ?

Markus
They would, they do not need these troops, but Putin finds it comfortable to have these foreigners killed instead of needing to mobilize Russians for his mass graves.

Skybird
11-28-24, 06:09 AM
Ukraine seems to have learned to "spoof" Iranian Shahed drones, Le Monde claims. That means the drones do not just get jammed and distracted, but get hijacked and programmed with coordinates leading them back to Belarus and Russia. To what degree this spoofing allows to precisely aim at targets in Russia, or whether the firing unit could get "boomeranged" by spoofed drones, is not described.

If true: nice! :D


-------------------


Satellite images show to what terrible degree Ukrainian cities have been destroyed.


https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/19/world/video/ukraine-war-landscape-cities-altered-ldn-digvid

Reece
11-28-24, 06:13 AM
Yes that would be a plus, they need all they can get!! :Kaleun_Applaud:

Jimbuna
11-28-24, 08:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqmVWMGfGHA

Jimbuna
11-28-24, 08:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F4TSVipbrQ

Skybird
11-28-24, 09:02 AM
How lame. He should have named it Satan XXXXXL. These days even Russian quality intimidation is no more what it once used to be. Loser.

Jimbuna
11-28-24, 09:22 AM
Netherlands does not support transfer of Gripen to Ukraine, process is already "on hold" - media

The issue of transferring Swedish Gripen fighter jets to Ukraine has been suspended for now due to fears of resource allocation expressed by NATO officials.

This was reported by Censor.NET with reference to Defense Express.

As noted, the transfer of Swedish Gripen fighter jets to Ukraine has been "put on hold" due to a decision that reflects NATO's position. This conclusion was reached after a statement by the Chief of the Dutch General Staff, General Onno Eichelsheim, for the Breaking Defence publication.

The general said that it is necessary to avoid transferring a large number of systems to Ukraine, as the country does not have enough pilots to operate them. "We need to take a balanced look at what capabilities are needed now," he said.

In his opinion, the transfer of Mirage 2000-5 fighters is also inappropriate, as it could spread resources, creating the need to support several types of aircraft.

"Prepare the Ukrainians for the F-16, provide them with weapons, money, logistics, spare parts that are available all over the world to keep these aircraft in good working order and operating without interruption," Eichelsheim said.

Defence Express assumes that this position reflects the collective opinion of a number of NATO military and officials who have "paused" the transfer of Swedish fighter jets. At the same time, it looks like a political "ping-pong" that delays a concrete decision.

As a reminder, Sweden has previously handed over components for the JAS 39 Gripen to Ukraine, but the issue of the delivery of the aircraft remains unresolved. The exact timing and possibility of delivery of the fighters have not yet been confirmed. The Gripen is considered to be effective in air combat and capable of enhancing Ukraine's defence capabilities. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522392

Skybird
11-28-24, 09:32 AM
^ And I even agree. Operating combat aircraft demands such immense qualification and specialisation in pilots and ground crews that it is insane to demand from Ukraine they should spread their scarce ressources on a variety of aircraft types.
Focus on one.

Give them more F-16s instead. This way they can learn this type, but learn this type well.

Jimbuna
11-28-24, 09:33 AM
NATO countries and Trump will be able to bring Putin to negotiating table when Ukraine has stronger position, - Rutte

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte believes that NATO countries and US President-elect Donald Trump will be able to bring Russian dictator Vladimir Putin to the negotiating table.

According to Censor.NET, this was reported by The Hill.

"We have to make sure that Ukrainians can discuss the future of their country from this position of strength, so that has to be Ukraine. But they will only do that when they feel that they can get something out of that," Rutte said.

He is convinced that NATO and the Trump administration will convince Putin to start negotiations.

"We will be able to get Putin to the table because he will sense that, ultimately, it is in his interest not to continue the fight," NATO Secretary General said.

According Rutte said Ukraine is not in a strong enough position to begin negotiating an end to the war with Russia and said any deal struck must "prevent the Russians from getting what they want."

"I think that’s crucial that we have a good deal because the whole world will be watching what type of deal will be struck between Russia and Ukraine when it comes to it. We have to make sure that Ukraine is in a position of more strength than they are at the moment, so that a deal can be struck which is favorable not to the Russians — and therefore to China, North Korea and Iran — because they all will be watching," Rutte said.

Earlier, the FT reported that Donald Trump had outlined a plan to end the war in Ukraine. The plan calls for Ukraine not to join NATO and for Putin to be put under economic pressure.

After the election, Donald Trump assured that his goal was to stop all wars in the world. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522382


Netherlands handed over 3 launchers for Patriot to Ukraine. PHOTOS

The Netherlands handed over three launchers for the "Patriot" air defence system to Ukraine.

This was announced by Defence Minister Ruben Brekelmans, Censor.NET reports.

"It saves lives and protects vital infrastructure. It is and remains in our common interest to stop Russian aggression," he said. Source: https://censor.net/en/p3522366

mapuc
11-28-24, 01:32 PM
^ And I even agree. Operating combat aircraft demands such immense qualification and specialisation in pilots and ground crews that it is insane to demand from Ukraine they should spread their scarce ressources on a variety of aircraft types.
Focus on one.

Give them more F-16s instead. This way they can learn this type, but learn this type well.

I agree-Let them learn how to fly one type of fighter jets from the West. It looks like though that France will send a group of their fighter jets to Ukraine too. Don't know which of these two fighter jets is the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lUe2-Z3P4o

Markus

Jimbuna
11-28-24, 01:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4wnFNqbISQ

Dargo
11-28-24, 02:01 PM
I agree-Let them learn how to fly one type of fighter jets from the West. It looks like though that France will send a group of their fighter jets to Ukraine too. Don't know which of these two fighter jets is the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lUe2-Z3P4o

MarkusReports are they are good the F-16 with the few they have on the moment is used successfully in Ukraine air defense.

mapuc
11-28-24, 03:02 PM
Some interesting questions and answers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlAIzRJhvyk

Markus

mapuc
11-28-24, 03:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWpsYGRZCQ4

Markus

Jimbuna
11-29-24, 05:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww4WYjNmyyE

Jimbuna
11-29-24, 08:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTK-57_DgRU

mapuc
11-29-24, 09:33 AM
Yet another foreseeing the collapse of Russian army-Which most likely will not happen Not within the next few years from now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeRHpyoX8YM

Markus

Jimbuna
11-29-24, 10:00 AM
Germany did not suggest Ukraine to lower mobilization age - German Foreign Ministry

Germany has denied that it offered Ukraine to lower the mobilization age.

This was stated by German Foreign Ministry spokesman Christian Wagner, Censor.NET reports citing Ukrinform.

"I cannot confirm this. And, to be honest, we as Germany would not interfere in the question of how Ukraine conducts its defense struggle against the Russians," he said, commenting on rumors that such a proposal had been made by Germany.

At the same time, the Defense Ministry spokesman said that he had no intention of commenting on proposals to lower the conscription age, as "Ukraine will make the right decisions to solve its problems."

Lowering the mobilization age
The day before, a senior official told the media that the administration of current US President Joe Biden calls on Ukraine to immediately increase the size of the Armed Forces by drafting more soldiers and revising mobilization legislation to allow people over the age of 18 to be drafted.

On November 19, US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said that Ukraine should increase mobilization to improve the situation at the front. However, no single weapons system is decisive in the Russian-Ukrainian war.

Ukraine's Foreign Ministry confirmed that the topic of mobilization and lowering the mobilization age is indeed being discussed in talks with Western partners, but the problem is the delay in the promised deliveries of the necessary weapons. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522576

Skybird
11-29-24, 10:06 AM
I believe in the Russian collapse when I see it happening. Right now, in the past months we saw Russia being able to pump 30,000 to 120,000 new fighters per month into the meat grinder. And they have not even run a full mobilization.


One day russia cannot continue, but Ukraine will become unable to continue much earlier, I fear. So, Ukraine's limits will be hit much earlier tha Russia's limits.



And what else to expect when comparing the size of both countries and populations...?? Russia's war production runs unhampered and its power grid is intact btw. Compare with things in Ukraine. Russia accelerating its push forward is not just due to its own power, but mostly due to Ukraine's growing weakness.

Jimbuna
11-29-24, 10:45 AM
DPRK transfers more than 100 ballistic missiles and hundred artillery systems to Russia - DIU

The DPRK has handed over more than 100 ballistic missiles, 100 artillery systems and millions of shells to Russia, Ukrainian intelligence has reported.

This was reported by Interfax-Ukraine with reference to the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine, Censor.NET reports.

Significant amounts of weapons have been moved to Russia from North Korea, including more than 100 short-range ballistic missiles of the Kn-23/24 type, more than 100 artillery systems and more than 5 million large-caliber artillery rounds.

"On October 3 this year, the DPRK began supplying artillery systems to the Russian Federation. In total, more than 100 units of various types of equipment have been moved, including: 170-mm self-propelled artillery systems M-1989, 240-mm multiple launch rocket systems M-1991. Also, the supply of large-caliber artillery ammunition and short-range ballistic missiles of the Kn-23/24 type continues (as of November this year, more than 5 million units and 100 units, accordingly, have been delivered)," the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine reports.

Reportedly, more than 60 units of 170-mm M-1989 Koksan self-propelled artillery systems have also been moved from the DPRK to Russia. Part of this equipment is planned to be delivered to the Saratov Higher Artillery Command School, probably for training.

"There is currently no information on the condition of these artillery systems," the intelligence added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522602

Dargo
11-29-24, 12:16 PM
Nationally, the Russian internet has collapsed. Banks, delivery services and telecom operators are not working. The Russian Government probably did this to prevent panic from spreading, so that people do not take out their bank deposits.
https://i.postimg.cc/6qhLsgYj/bankrunexpectus.png

Dargo
11-29-24, 12:43 PM
I believe in the Russian collapse when I see it happening. Right now, in the past months we saw Russia being able to pump 30,000 to 120,000 new fighters per month into the meat grinder. And they have not even run a full mobilization.


One day russia cannot continue, but Ukraine will become unable to continue much earlier, I fear. So, Ukraine's limits will be hit much earlier tha Russia's limits.



And what else to expect when comparing the size of both countries and populations...?? Russia's war production runs unhampered and its power grid is intact btw. Compare with things in Ukraine. Russia accelerating its push forward is not just due to its own power, but mostly due to Ukraine's growing weakness.Oh sure it will not collapse tomorrow it can mobilize 30,000 not that more than that, but that is also what it loses per month and that is conservative estimations. Russia lacks the work force, for your assumption of their war production is based on Russian figures they are false total shortage was years ago in the 4 million that figure can only be higher now. The CEO of the biggest military complex is biaaching about this for years he says they can not produce what they want, Russian production is not on 100%. Your calculation about Russian ability to mobilize and at the same time war produce is not done over the global population. Fact is when you look at the demography the biggest is in the regions of Moscow and St Petersburg for soldiers and high educated workers for war production. Russia has the same problem as Ukraine, do we mobilize in high numbers and destroy our economy or balance it to keep going. What Russia is doing now, setting its economy on fire by pumping money in the economy for war production. The mobilization caused sky-high rise in salaries that will only fuel inflation, so the central bank must rise the interest rate it is now so high that the CEO yes the same with the power to tumble Putin biaach they can not get money. Think this year Elvira Sakhipzadovna Nabiullina will be sacked accused after that of ... corruption this ... treason that, or she gets a tour le window. I really hope Russia makes this mistake because she is excellent at her work to keep it all running. Russian power grid is like heating based on soviet style bad maintained and with labor shortage it will also break this winter like in Ukraine Russian will have power cuts and no heat. Ukraine is no pariah Russia is so Ukraine will be helped thru this winter Russia will certainly not get help from its allies they are pariahs themselves so need all the help themselves.

Jimbuna
11-29-24, 12:44 PM
To protect logistics hub that delivers aid to Ukraine: Germany proposes to redeploy Patriot in Poland

Germany has proposed to deploy Patriot air defense systems in Poland to protect a key logistics center important for the supply of aid to Ukraine.

This was reported by Reuters with reference to a statement by the German Ministry of Defense, Censor.NET reports.

It is noted that Patriot installations may be redeployed to Poland in early 2025.

"In this way, we will protect the logistics hub in Poland, which is central to the delivery of materials to Ukraine," said German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius.

In turn, Polish Defense Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz welcomed Germany's decision.

"We welcome Germany's decision to send Patriot batteries to Poland. From January 2025, we will have another allied support for our air defense," Kosiniak-Kamysz said in a statement, according to Polish Radio.

Earlier it was reported that by the end of this year Ukraine would receive two short- and medium-range IRIS-T air defense systems from Germany. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522618

mapuc
11-29-24, 12:49 PM
We all have our opinions on the war in Ukraine and the Russian economy. The question is though-Who of us have the military and economical knowledge so we can say this expert is right or wrong ?

I'm not-I post videos and links for you to decide what is right or wrong in this.

I have hopes and fears-I hope the Russian economy will collapse soon, but i fear that Ukraine may lose the war before that.

Losing due to lack of amount of ammo and speed they are delivered

Markus

Dargo
11-29-24, 01:33 PM
We all have our opinions on the war in Ukraine and the Russian economy. The question is though-Who of us have the military and economical knowledge so we can say this expert is right or wrong ?

I'm not-I post videos and links for you to decide what is right or wrong in this.

I have hopes and fears-I hope the Russian economy will collapse soon, but i fear that Ukraine may lose the war before that.

Losing due to lack of amount of ammo and speed they are delivered

MarkusI do not see an Ukraine military, economy lose this year Russia still not have made big gains it still crawls forward it still can not do Bewegungskrieg Ukraine is better at this if they have the tools. Economical in Ukraine is doing great, certainly for a country at war their economy is still growing even that it lost industries and resources. Russian national bank reserves are almost depleted with the low ruble, it will see bottom faster in the near future, good luck lending with those rates. But also no surprise Ukraine has more and wealthier allies than Russia has, I have no worry only if we would.
Speedup what we promise.
Sanction more Russian banks.
Dump oil on the market, starve Russian oil revenue. (hope Trump makes US oil great again :D)

Dargo
11-29-24, 02:11 PM
It all has a connection and add to Putin's problems the more the merry. The rate drop will raise inflation, the scourge of the Central Bank. Previously, a cheaper rouble would have boosted domestic output as consumers switched to homemade goods and services from more expensive imports. However, the Russian economy is overheated and lacks the capacity to increase production. So, the inflationary effect is higher than before 2022. The Central Bank of Russia has few options to react, it can’t hike interest rates very far from an already painful 21 %, as this would risk causing non-military producers to slow to stagnation and flirt with bankruptcy. It can’t directly intervene in the foreign exchange market, as half of its reserves have been frozen since the outbreak of war in 2022, and its stash of dollars is much smaller. At the same time, the Central Bank of Russia doesn’t have the luxury of relying on China’s supply of cash. China has shown zero appetite for providing liquidity and swap lines to its ally. Russian exports will get paid less and imports will be more expensive. All those "allies" are taking advance off this and will rob Russia empty this are not the nice allies they take no risk that is all on Putin's table they do not care they all will profit from a weaker Russia and take what they want.

It’s becoming all-too-clear that there are no good remedies for the Russian economy’s malaise apart from ending the war, the mother of Russia’s problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBDN1t8-t70

If anybody still dares, this all not looking good for Russia, and it is on its way to hell with Putin at the wheel, I will post a Sesame Street vid to make it clear on your level.

mapuc
11-29-24, 02:49 PM
I have no doubt Russian economy is in a bad shape, very bad shape that is. Is it so severe that we may expect a collapse during 2025 or ?

The prediction of an economical collapse has been told since 2023.

Markus

Dargo
11-29-24, 02:57 PM
I have no doubt Russian economy is in a bad shape, very bad shape that is. Is it so severe that we may expect a collapse during 2025 or ?

The prediction of an economical collapse has been told since 2023.

MarkusAll I can say damage is done this can not be reversed it is out of control of the central bank it can not solve this anymore the disaster loop is perfect and will damage the Russian economy for decades. Even a Russian military victory or cease fire will damage their economy more that will collapse in no time if there is no war anymore. Remember Tsar Nicholas II, it was over in a week because of a couple of hundred women demanding food and better living.

P.S. By military victory I mean the Donetsk Donbas nothing more he will ever get the Ukraine people will not allow more else there will be Ukraine blood in the streets of Kyiv by Ukrainians.

mapuc
11-29-24, 03:23 PM
There's a few videos on YT claiming that the Ruble have collapsed, like the person in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E18WZiXB39o

Been trying to find reliable article without any luck.

Markus

Dargo
11-29-24, 03:41 PM
There's a few videos on YT claiming that the Ruble have collapsed, like the person in this video.

Been trying to find reliable article without any luck.

MarkusI found it 1 Russian Ruble equals 0.0089 Euro if that is not a collapse I do not know anymore in a normal economy it is not bad for a short time. For Russia, it is bad this will only go worse because they can not stop it and keep inflation in check they tried it for two years and failed there are no options to cure these problems. Sanctions work! If things were going great yep also military the rubble would be much, much higher there are signs if things go good or bad and this is THE BAD SIGN nobody want to invest in Russia not even the Russian elite even after a deal nobody will invest in this unreliable country so long this regime is in power.

November 29th, 2024

- Russians are getting destroyed in Syria.
- Assad is in Moscow begging for weapons.
- Russian defense minister is in Pyong Yang begging for weapons.
- Russia has the worst 24 hours of losses of the war in Ukraine - 2030 soldiers in a day.
- Georgians rising up against the Russisn-backed government.
- One of the worst months in history for the Russian ruble.

Things are not going well for the Moscow Gargoyle. https://x.com/JayinKyiv/status/1862586181973942767

mapuc
11-29-24, 03:56 PM
I found it 1 Russian Ruble equals 0.0089 Euro if that is not a collapse I do not know anymore in a normal economy it is not bad for a short time. For Russia, it is bad this will only go worse because they can not stop it and keep inflation in check they tried it for two years and failed there are no options to cure these problems. Sanctions work! If things were going great yep also military the rubble would be much, much higher there are signs if things go good or bad and this is THE BAD SIGN nobody want to invest in Russia not even the Russian elite even after a deal nobody will invest in this unreliable country so long this regime is in power.

1 Ruble = 0.0089 Euro :o
If this is correct-which I have no doubt it is-then yes the Ruble have collapsed.

Markus

Skybird
11-29-24, 04:04 PM
Somebody is so desperate that he starts to prepare an exit strategy.


https://news.sky.com/story/zelenskyy-suggests-hes-prepared-to-end-ukraine-war-in-return-for-nato-membership-even-if-russia-doesnt-immediately-return-seized-land-13263085


Reality does not negotiate with interpretation. It simply is what it is. Interpret into it what you want, this does not change things. The decisive (mis)deeds where already done long time ago, they cannot be made undone.

Dargo
11-29-24, 04:08 PM
1 Ruble = 0.0089 Euro :o
If this is correct-which I have no doubt it is-then yes the Ruble have collapsed.

MarkusOn the moment they spent it on a large scale because you never know how much it is worth tomorrow. Do not think it is a smart move, but then again I do not think highly of Russians... Oops, another problem LOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znqDnm8Uug8

mapuc
11-29-24, 04:24 PM
Somebody is so desperate that he starts to prepare an exit strategy.


https://news.sky.com/story/zelenskyy-suggests-hes-prepared-to-end-ukraine-war-in-return-for-nato-membership-even-if-russia-doesnt-immediately-return-seized-land-13263085


Reality does not negotiate with interpretation. It simply is what it is. Interpret into it what you want, this does not change things. The decisive (mis)deeds where already done long time ago, they cannot be made undone.

Which I interpreter as both countries in the war have huge problems.

Ukraine has military problems on the battlefield
Russia have problems with the economy.

I have been told the one who seeks ceasefire is the one who has most problem at the front.

Markus

Dargo
11-29-24, 04:32 PM
Russian occupying forces are deserting and leaving their positions in Kherson Oblast.This was reported on Nov. 28 by the partisan movement Atesh (https://t.me/atesh_ua/5865), citing its agent. The informant reported “mass desertion cases in the 205th Motorized Rifle Brigade on the Dnipro River front.” The cause of the desertion is the “arbitrariness” by the occupiers’ commanders. This includes group beatings, threats of being sent on “one-way” missions, round-the-clock duty, and the absence of promised payments. Unwilling to tolerate this, the occupiers are “abandoning their positions.” According to the Atesh agent, some soldiers are seeking help from human rights organizations through their families, “but so far, there has been no response.” “Such cases are not uncommon in the occupiers’ army, but in the 205th brigade, they have reached mass proportions,” the partisans claim.

It was previously reported that over a thousand occupiers from the 20th Motorized Rifle Division of Russia deserted from the war against Ukraine. A list prepared by the command, which journalists gained access to, revealed over a thousand soldiers from the division, including contract soldiers, mobilized personnel, and conscripts.

Dargo
11-29-24, 04:41 PM
Which I interpreter as both countries in the war have huge problems.

Ukraine has military problems on the battlefield
Russia have problems with the economy.

I have been told the one who seeks ceasefire is the one who has most problem at the front.

MarkusSo losing more than you can mobilize per month including equipment is no problem? Russia has beside economic problems also military problems it also is highly depended on it allies for munition and equipment Russia is weaker than we know, but that it is the weaker side is a fact. Both Russia and Ukraine can do a long war if Ukraine is willing to scarify, all is another ... but it is not a weakness to seek a ceasefire. For a ceasefire it will demand a NATO security else it will never happen the Ukraine people will utterly never accept rule under the Russians, again any politician proposing this will be hanged at the nearest tree by Ukraine people. Soviet power was based on Ukraine, without Ukraine no USSR this will never happen again, never! Russia must send a tenfold force into Ukraine to keep it under control Russia will never have a peaceful night for decades if they want to control Ukraine.

Skybird
11-29-24, 05:19 PM
Don't allow yourself to be fooled by these stupid videos, they are propaganda. The Russians are in control of the offensive, the undisputed momentum is theirs and since months. They are advancing faster and faster. In the Donbass, there is the threat of a huge operational breakthrough at any time; to the west of the front at Pokrovsk is mostly open steppe, with no defensive lines. The Ukrainian brigades in the east have 50% of their target strength at best, most of them much less, troop rotation is practically non-existent in many places because there are no more reserves. The Russians are leaking through the front everywhere, according to pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian bloggers.

Things are looking bad for Ukraine, and getting worse every day. I think we see the culminating and decisive phase of the war. I see higher than 50% chances that the war will come to a temporary end in 2025. It will not be peace, however.


If the Russian take Prokovsk, and they will, they have 150 km of undefended terrain ahead of them, until river Dnjepr. I do not see how Ukraine could operationally recover from that fiasco. And this scenario is not just one amongst many - its the most likely scenario currently.

Dargo
11-29-24, 05:57 PM
Again the "If the Russian take... then ...." (becomes very boring yawn) after several "if" cities they're still crawling in the Donetsk Donbas this Donbas will not be taken so fast but if they would who cares this Donbas is already lost shot into rubble and left by majority of Ukraine people there is no win in this region not economical or military. If it cost your economy and huge part of your military, it is for die buhne this does not make Russia great. Ukraine will stay be rebuilt, they have the resources to rebuild all industry that are destroyed and razed by Russian in the occupied regions. It was Ukraine that was the engine, brain and food supplier of the USSR, they can do it tenfold Russia not. Saying Ukraine has no reserves is not true, it still has reserves at this moment on route to the Prokovsk front and other critical areas. And they will be sooner at the front than Russia can send troops, Ukraine is still in the inner circle of the front line.

Russian advances … do not automatically portend the collapse of the Ukrainian front line if Putin had a couple of armored divisions we should be far more worried, but Russian do not seem to have a mobile reserve. When you get a breakthrough, you want to exploit it with rapid armored maneuver by trained and experienced people, but Putin’s putting barely trained people into the front. Russia would need to seize another 8,000 square kilometers if it is to take all the Donetsk region, which would take a year even at its current increased rate of advancement. About 700 square kilometers of Ukraine has been taken since November, an area the size of metropolitan Bangkok, but the price Russia is paying in troop and equipment losses is very high. This gain is likely to be possible for only another four weeks before the offensive culminates, Russians also get exhausted any army would.

mapuc
11-29-24, 06:26 PM
I wish I had more of your optimisme Dargo and lesser pessimisme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBuqHWiTaHU

Edit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDd84pdDqNA
End edit

Markus

Skybird
11-29-24, 06:42 PM
Before 2014, the Donbass region (=Donezk) was the most important (rank 1) industrial region amongst the over two dozen oblasts (provinces) in Ukraine, together with Luhansk oblast (ranked No. 5 in that list) contributing around one quarter to the total industrial and productive weight of Ukraine. Four of the top five oblasts in that list represent now occupied oblasts. Means: Ukraine looses its 4 most importan productive and industrial, heavyweight oblasts with a total of almost 40% of its industrial productivity.

In agricultural production Donbass ranked place 10 amongst these 27 oblasts. According to US agricultural surveys from 2020, the five occupied oblasts in total represent quite precisely one quarter of the national wheat production of Ukraine (Donbass alone 5%).

Donbass was before the war the oblast with the biggest group of the total national population (almost 2 million).


The five occupied oblasts also represent almost the total of Ukraine's coastal access to the sea.

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I leave it to history unfolding to teach you a lesson about what difference it will make once Pokrovsk has been breached. The city is a bastion of the third and last defence line, the first two already have gone, and behind the city the Russians currently meet just empty land. THERE ARE NO MORE PREPARED DEFENCES behind Pokrovsk, they say. For ~ 150km. If you think that means nothing and means no difference and if you still think the Russian are bogged down while indeed they have a run and accelerating their advance since many weeks now, then I cannot help you. We see history in the making - and it will lecture you. Nothing gets won by glossing over unwanted realities.

Dargo
11-29-24, 06:49 PM
I wish I had more of your optimisme Dargo and lesser pessimisme
MarkusPessimism never won any battle. The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars, no pessimist ever discovered the secrets of the stars. Always look on the bright side of life. It makes it easier. Pessimists are usually right and optimists are usually wrong, but all the great changes have been accomplished by optimists.I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.

[QUOTE=Skybird;2934631]Before 2014, the Donbass region (=Donezk) was the most important (rank 1) industrial region amongst the over two dozen oblasts (provinces) in Ukraine, together with Luhansk oblast (ranked No. 5 in that list) contributing around one quarter to the total industrial and productive weight of Ukraine. Four of the top five oblasts in that list represent now occupied obla

Jimbuna
11-30-24, 05:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5HpP3BrsRA

Jimbuna
11-30-24, 06:11 AM
Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war - about 740,400 people (+1,740 per day), 9,463 tanks, 20,909 artillery systems, 19,355 armored combat vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

The Ukrainian Defense Forces have eliminated 740,400 Russian invaders since the beginning of the full-scale invasion.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff.

As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 30.11.24 are approximately

personnel - about 740400 (+1740) people,

tanks - 9463 (+5) units

armored combat vehicles - 19355 (+12) units

artillery systems - 20909 (+23) units,

MLRS - 1253 (+2) units,

air defense systems - 1019 (+0) units

airplanes - 369 (+0) units

helicopters - 329 (+0) units,

UAVs of operational and tactical level - 19792 (+42),

cruise missiles - 2851 (+0),

ships/boats - 28 (+0) units

submarines - 1 (+0) units,

motor vehicles and tank trucks - 30431 (+72) units

special equipment - 3617 (+2) Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522682

Dargo
11-30-24, 06:58 AM
Russia finds itself in a Gordian Knot of its own creationThe Kremlin can't afford to stop the war in Ukraine, nor can it afford to keep the war going for much longer. 2021 fabricated intelligence delivered by Defense Minister Shoigu to Putin: “NATO will invade Russia, so we must preempt by invading Ukraine.” 2024 fabricated intelligence in the SVR press release: “NATO will invade Russia if we stop the war in Ukraine, so we must keep the war going at all costs.” We know why Shoigu fabricated the intelligence in 2021. We may know why Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service just published a press release with very similarly-sounding nonsense. Per the leaks to those close to Russia’s General Staff, “Russia is ****ed” following American permission to strike inside Russia with ATACMS and Storm Shadows. How to make sense of all this, then?

Following Ukraine’s President Zelensky saying he could hypothetically agree to a ceasefire and cede the nearly 20% of Ukrainian territory currently occupied by Russia, including Crimea and Donbas, in exchange for placing the remaining 80% of the nation under protection of a “NATO Umbrella,” Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) issued a panicked press release today. It must be stressed Zelenskyy said the West has not made such an offer and in my opinion Ukraine developing its own nuclear weapons is more likely than any kind of NATO membership in the medium term. Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) said Russia will refuse any ceasefire because the West wants to temporarily freeze the war in Ukraine in order to restore the Ukrainian Armed Forces' combat capability by sending 100,000 NATO soldiers to Ukraine as 'peacekeepers.'
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This statement by Russia’s Foreign Intelligence is reminiscent of the false information fed by the security services and the General Staff in 2021 to Putin about NATO’s supposed secret plans to liberate regions of Ukraine originally occupied by Russia in 2014. This flow of fabricated intelligence reportedly led to at least the rushed timing of Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. The purpose for the fabricated intelligence back in 2021 was a calculated distraction by Russia’s Defence Ministry and specifically Shoigu, the Defence Minister at the time. Investigators were closing in on Shoigu and his deputies’ years-long embezzlement from the military budget, totaling around $176 billion (USD). Deputy Defence Minister Ivanov himself was interrogated about it in 2021. At the time, the gambit worked for Defence Minister Shoigu, and the investigations into his grand corruption were abandoned with the focus urgently shifting to preparations to invade Ukraine to “preempt NATO invasion of Russia.” Deputy Defence Minister Ivanov managed to remain free until April 2024 when he was finally arrested. Shoigu is still free. Why is the Kremlin so terrified of a ceasefire or freezing of the frontline in Ukraine that new intel is being fabricated again to make someone believe that NATO will attack Russia? https://igorsushko.substack.com/p/russia-finds-itself-in-a-gordian

Dargo
11-30-24, 07:05 AM
Pessimism never won any battle. The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars, no pessimist ever discovered the secrets of the stars. Always look on the bright side of life. It makes it easier. Pessimists are usually right and optimists are usually wrong, but all the great changes have been accomplished by optimists.

[QUOTE=Skybird;2934631]Before 2014, the Donbass region (=Donezk) was the most important (rank 1) industrial region amongst the over two dozen oblasts (provinces) in Ukraine, together with Luhansk oblast (ranked No. 5 in that list) contributing around one quarter to the total industrial and productive weight of Ukraine. Four of the top five oblasts in that list represent now occupied oblaI am fine if you flag it as spam, but then FUBAR the original post(s) is beyond me.

LOL now I do it also :)

Raf1394
11-30-24, 07:07 AM
Hope the war really ends at some point. I don't care who the loser or winner is. Just stop people getting killed...

Jimbuna
11-30-24, 07:17 AM
I doubt it'll ever end whilst Putin rules the roost.

Skybird
11-30-24, 07:41 AM
[QUOTE=Dargo;2934632]Pessimism never won any battle. The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars, no pessimist ever discovered the secrets of the stars. Always look on the bright side of life. It makes it easier. Pessimists are usually right and optimists are usually wrong, but all the great changes have been accomplished by optimists.

I am fine if you flag it as spam, but then FUBAR the original post(s) is beyond me.

LOL now I do it also :)You indicated your opinion that Donbass region is of only small economic and industrial relevance. I showed you that that is wrong and that with the five occupied oblasts a substantial chunk is bitten out of the productivity/economy of Ukraine both in industrial and agricultural terms. 25-40% of their national total, to be precise.

And on your idea to win a war by optimism in which you and me even do not fight, I prefer a quote by Gen. Sharon: "Hope is no strategy". I try to be realistic. The glass for me is neither half full nor half empty. It is twice as big as is has to be in order to hold the water in it.

"Es nützt nichts, sich die Situation schönzureden." - Col. Reisner.

Dargo
11-30-24, 08:02 AM
I am fine if you flag it as spam, but then FUBAR the original post(s) is beyond me.

LOL now I do it also :)You indicated your opinion that Donbass region is of only small economic and industrial relevance. I showed you that that is wrong and that with the five occupied oblasts a substantial chunk is bitten out of the productivity/economy of Ukraine both in industrial and agricultural terms. 25-40% of their nationbal total, to be precise.

And on your idea to win a war by optimism in which you and me even do not fight, I prefer a quote by Gen. Sharon: "Hope is no strategy". I try to be realistic. The glass for me is neither half full nor half empty. At the present moment it is twice as big as is has to be in order to hold the water in it.

"Es nützt nichts, sich die Situation schönzureden." - Col. Reisner.If you can do without those lost industrial areas (10 years) and still grow your economy is no hope it is real economic, Ukraine has enough left in the ground to be bigger than Germany they never needed to war for lebens raum because they have lebens raum and loss of a small part of your agricultural land is no Armageddon were you default right away in. Ukraine is one of the most fertile places on the planet, with 25-30 percent of the world's black soil reserves. With over 41 million hectares of agricultural land, covering 70 percent of the country. If you lose some it is no biggie we Dutch with 54 percent (2.2 million hectares) is used as farmland are in second place to feed the world we will use Ukraine already are doing to get more out of that land then they do now. So nah no hope we Dutch are doing this for centuries successfully we are no pessimist else we would not been a world power in the past, sure no hope when we Dutch see profit we get it. We bloody under sea level, we would never have any dry feet if we were pessimist. Ukraine has the same DNA they will survive and prosper and sit as equal at our table not at the anti-West loser table. If you confuse basic capitalism happening in Ukraine with hope you do not understand the world the western market has and are heavily investing for good reason they are there to stay and make sure Russia will not profit what is in the Ukraine soil. The past Western investment will never go back to an unreliable country, Ukraine is an reliable partner so here to stay in the West. The market is always right (Going with the flow of the market is a lot more profitable than trying to go the opposite way. Investment 101) and Russia is the opposite way. On the war Ukraine still holds the line and Russia still not can create a Bewegungskrieg thinking tomorrow suddenly they can do a Bewegungskrieg is a false hope! That is not me but majority of military that has really planned, commanded and executed wars in the past say. You are from a country that lost more in history and still do not see it made you one of the biggest at the table is mind-boggling for me but no definitely NOooo ukraine will not. Like I said before without Ukraine and its people no USSR it would not have survived WW2.

Jimbuna
11-30-24, 08:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uKJ5KTGh6w

Dargo
11-30-24, 09:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf2vSoWsmgI

mapuc
11-30-24, 09:35 AM
Being realistic-As I see it, one need to have full insight on what's going on in the war, otherwise it's nothing than a personal realisme.

It's not enough to have some expert to support you-You need to have your own insight on what's going on at the battlefield.

Markus

Skybird
11-30-24, 12:14 PM
Both the ISW (Institute for the Study of War) and Col. Reisner describe that Russia is gaining several dozen square kilometers of territory every day in the critical hotspot around Pokrovsk and is thereby increasingly encircling the city. The Russians are succeeding in bringing forward more and more resources, soldiers and equipment across the entire front. The Ukrainian units are exhausted and completely overwhelmed. The Russians' numerical superiority in soldiers and material is increasing every day. Just days ago a Russian push forward by over 20 km in one rush was reported. There are conflicting reports on this, however, but they all agree that there was a rush and that it was extremely substantial.


The Russians are able to push their advance despite their very high losses - these seem to not stop them at Pokrovsk.

Dargo
11-30-24, 12:19 PM
‪Russia's mortgage market has begun to collapse. Developers are struggling to sell apartments, with 60% unsold. Adding to Putin's own war goal, mortgage rates are rising and prices for building materials, transportation and labor costs may also soon rise. The average cost of a mortgage loan has already exceeded 30% of the top 10 market participants. This is a reaction to a record rise in the key rate (up to 21%) in October and the expectation of tightening the policy of the Central Bank in December. Now the overpayment for the entire period of the housing loan may be seven times, and the monthly payment is 250 000-300 000 rubles. According to the Ministry of Finance, in Russia, only 3.2% of the working population have an income of more than 200 000 rubles — or 2 million workers out of 64 million. At least 97% of working Russians are cut off from the mortgage. https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2024/11/26/ne-prodaetsya-v-pravitelstve-zhdut-obvala-tsen-na-novostroiki-v-razi-posle-obrusheniya-rinka-ipoteki-na-58-a148762

mapuc
11-30-24, 12:21 PM
Both the ISW (Institute for the Study of War) and Col. Reisner describe that Russia is gaining several dozen square kilometers of territory every day in the critical hotspot around Pokrovsk and is thereby increasingly encircling the city. The Russians are succeeding in bringing forward more and more resources, soldiers and equipment across the entire front. The Ukrainian units are exhausted and completely overwhelmed. The Russians' numerical superiority in soldiers and material is increasing every day. Just days ago a Russian push forward by over 20 km in one rush was reported. There are conflicting reports on this, however, but they all agree that there was a rush and that it was extremely substantial.


The Russians are able to push their advance despite their very high losses - these seem to not stop them at Pokrovsk.

I use ISW and I do read what Reisner and other military expert have to say about the situation in Ukraine.

What I ask myself is:
Is it going so bad for the Ukrainians ?

Markus

Dargo
11-30-24, 12:30 PM
From the same ISW The Russian military command’s decision to embrace and exploit the characteristics of positional warfare are based on the assumption that Russia’s war machine, with support from its allies in Iran, the People’s Republic of China (PRC), and North Korea, can outlast Ukraine and its Western allies. ISW has recently observed indications to the contrary, however. Russian forces lost roughly 80,000 troops during September and October 2024, but likely only recruited an estimated 60-70,000 into military service– indicating that the Russian military’s recruitment rates have begun to fall behind Russia’s previous one-to-one loss replacement rate.[54] Ukrainian and Western assessments repeatedly place Russian domestic production rates of tanks, armored vehicles, and artillery systems far below estimated rates of loss for these systems in Ukraine. [55] Apathy towards the war and resistance to greater social and economic hardship also appears to be growing within Russian society as the war drags on – suggesting that it is also in the Kremlin’s interest to resolve the war as soon as possible in order to avoid exacerbating domestic discontent.[56]

Putin’s theory of victory does not account for these issues nor for the impact of Ukraine’s increasing asymmetric capabilities. Ukrainian forces have repeatedly demonstrated their commitment and ability to develop and employ alternative and asymmetric capabilities, namely drones and long-range strikes, to partially counter Russia's artillery advantage in Ukraine and to defend against Russian mechanized and infantry assaults, often generating outsized effects considering the inexpensive systems Ukrainian forces are employing. Ukrainian drone operators have played a key role in constraining Russian mechanized maneuver in western Donetsk Oblast and Russian infantry assaults throughout the frontline in Ukraine.[57] Ukraine’s long-range drone strikes against Russian oil depots and warehouses storing military equipment continue to complicate Russian logistics, force Russia to reallocate air defense assets, and burden Russia’s war chest.[58] Russian defeat, and Ukraine’s future success, rests on Ukraine’s ability to further leverage these asymmetric capabilities to support successful ground operations and directly challenge Russian forces’ control over the theater-wide initiative.[59] https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukrainian-defense-pokrovsk-has-compelled-russia-change-its-approach-eastern-ukraine

mapuc
11-30-24, 12:39 PM
I for one hope you are right Dargo, that Russia will collapse economically and military before Ukraine lose the war.

However I fear that Skybird is more correct than we wish was the case.

Because Russia do have the momentum and Putin does not care losing 1500-2000 men per day as long his military gain land.

Markus

Dargo
11-30-24, 01:25 PM
I for one hope you are right Dargo, that Russia will collapse economically and military before Ukraine lose the war.

However I fear that Skybird is more correct than we wish was the case.

Because Russia do have the momentum and Putin does not care losing 1500-2000 men per day as long his military gain land.

MarkusIt's not that I want to have it right but if I do read documents or view videos I read it all not what I want to see also from people living this war majority of Ukraine people are/have served in it or have lost someone in this war the people I speak have certainly not the view we get in the West they really do not care what some armchair general from the West tells them they are ... or must ... they say to us, we stand knee-deep in the mud, cold, rain, snow fighting for our lives and give shyte what anything tells outside our trenches we Ukraine people know you westerners would not last a day here, and you tell us how to fight? We Ukraine do the dying here, you better learn from us because when we fall you are next we will not know because we are not in this with you because we died not possible to fight next with you. On the moment, Ukraine trains NATO, not the other way around.

West provided enough aid for 2.5 brigades out of requested 10Western allies provided enough aid to fully equip only 2.5 out of the 10 Ukrainian brigades that Ukraine had requested support for, President Volodymyr Zelensky said in an interview with Sky News published on Nov. 29. "Just equip the brigades," Zelensky said in response to the question on what NATO or the U.S. could do to help tackle Ukraine's manpower shortages.

The statement follows media reports suggesting that Washington is urging Ukraine to lower its minimum mobilization age from 25 to 18 in an effort to replenish military ranks. Kyiv said that Ukraine’s mobilization strategy is regularly discussed with allies but dismissed suggestions of tension over the issue. In the interview with Sky News, Zelensky said that if the West doesn't provide enough aid, Ukraine will "never have enough resources." "How do you want me just to mobilize young guys, [as] they don't know where to go – in which brigade, with which weapon they will fight?" he added. "They speak about mobilization, but the real problem [is] with 10 brigades which our partners didn't equip."

Zelensky said that he had asked the U.S. and Europe to help equip the Ukrainian brigades over a year ago. He cited bureaucracy and allies' other priorities as reasons why the aid hasn't been fully provided. Zelensky also said the control over the situation in the east of Ukraine is solely dependant on these brigades. In the interview on July 4, Zelensky said that 14 Ukrainian brigades were underarmed as the Western aid was arriving too slowly. https://kyivindependent.com/west-provided-enough-aid-for-2-5-brigades-out-of-requested-10-zelensky-says/
Wave of bankruptcies will not revitalize Russia’s economy, expert saysThe coming wave of corporate bankruptcies will not have a rejuvenating effect on Russia’s private sector, Russian economist Igor Lipsitz said in an interview with NV on Nov. 28. Conventional economic theory suggests that bankruptcy allows inefficient businesses to fade away, creating market niches for more agile competitors to occupy and contribute to economic growth. Lipsitz further suggests that there is a belief among senior Russian officials and analysts that the bankruptcy of enterprises will positively affect the economy. Elvira Nabiullina, the head of Russia's central bank, holds such views, according to the expert.

Bankruptcies do indeed have positive effects on countries with market economies because new, aggressive companies replace inefficient ones. However, Lipsitz asserts that this does not apply to Russia. In Russia, no one can take over the market or increase output as a more efficient producer when a less efficient competitor goes bankrupt. The entire economy has essentially become state-run, and private investors will not risk investing in bankrupt enterprises to revitalize them, change production organization, technology, or equipment.

“Who will invest in revitalizing the Russian economy right now? No one, ever,” said Lipsitz. “It's inefficient, it's expensive. It's too risky to invest money. Therefore, there may be bankruptcies, but there cannot be any economic recovery. There may only be falling supply, as it was in the 1990s in Russia. Hence, the outlook is grim.” https://english.nv.ua/nation/wave-of-bankruptcies-will-not-revitalize-russia-s-economy-expert-says-50470571.html

Jimbuna
11-30-24, 02:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68LSlzjjMgM

mapuc
11-30-24, 03:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcCODVnY1zA

Markus

Dargo
11-30-24, 04:38 PM
Turkey assures that it will not support peace plan with territorial concessionsTurkey officially confirms that the information about its support for the peace plan, which allegedly provides for the freezing of the conflict and concessions to Ukraine's territorial integrity, is not true.

This was stated by Ahtem Çiygöz, co-chairman of the group on interparliamentary relations with Turkey, MP of Ukraine, Deputy Chairman of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people, in a commentary to Ukrinform following his visit to Turkey.

“There are constant accusations, especially from the Russian side, that Turkey is committed to a peace formula that provides for the freezing of the conflict and concessions in territorial integrity. So, during the two days of our visit to Turkey, we held meetings at a very high level and were assured everywhere that this is not true,” said Çiygöz.

According to him, Turkey supports Ukraine in many areas, and both countries are interested in developing bilateral strategic relations, including parliamentary cooperation. “Turkey not only has hopes, but is also working to ensure that the changes after the US elections do not affect the provision of assistance to Ukraine. These were important messages for us. And we will convey them to the authorities and people of Ukraine. This visit has also become the basis for our bilateral cooperation to be closer, and the role of our parliaments in it will now be more active,” Çiygöz emphasized.

As Ukrinform reported, at a meeting of the friendship groups of the parliaments of Ukraine and Turkey held in Ankara, it was stated that Turkey consistently supports the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, including the Crimean peninsula. The issue of Crimea, in particular as a territory of residence and free development of the Crimean Tatars, is a priority and important for Turkey. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3932549-turkey-assures-that-it-will-not-support-peace-plan-with-territorial-concessions-mp.html

mapuc
12-01-24, 10:48 AM
For how long can they keep on losing so many men per day ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D5wJdGnT-4

Markus

Dargo
12-01-24, 10:54 AM
Keep an eye on Georgia it could become a Revolution of Dignity just like in Ukraine 2014 for the third night in a row there are massive protests in Georgia. Outgoing President Zurabishvili refuses to relinquish her post as long as there is ‘no valid government’. In the Georgian capital Tbilisi, tens of thousands of people have been in protest against the government for days. On Saturday evening, the country's current president, Salome Zurabishvili, announced that she would not relinquish her role until there is another valid parliament to appoint her successor. ‘There is no legitimate parliament. And an illegitimate parliament cannot elect a president,’ the president said Saturday night. Her term ends this month when parliament must appoint a successor. ‘My mandate continues until there is a validly elected parliament,’ she said.

There have been major protests in the country since Thursday. On Saturday night, some 100,000 residents took to the streets. They clashed with the police. Protesters threw fireworks, police forced them back with water cannons and rubber batons. At least 200 people are said to have been arrested since the protests began, writes Georgian broadcaster Rustavi-2. And according to the Georgian Health Ministry, 44 people have been taken to hospital, including one journalist and several officials, writes another news channel on Telegram. The reason for the popular anger is the actions of Georgian Prime Minister Irakli Kobakhidze: on Thursday, he announced to pause negotiations to join the European Union. To the anger of many pro-European Georgians (80 percent of Georgians see a future for the country with the EU).

Dargo
12-01-24, 11:00 AM
What Putin nuclear threats doing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr5hYfSEnvk

Skybird
12-01-24, 11:01 AM
^ Could turn out like it turned out on the Maidan ff.

And Russia has no reason to let go things, in Georgia.

Ukraine and Georgia compare in another detail, too. Both were and are haunted by massive corruption in the political system and institutions, weakening their resilience and ability to resist Russia from within.

Dargo
12-01-24, 11:10 AM
^ Could turn out like it turned out on the Maidan ff.

And Russia has no reason to let go things, in Georgia.

Ukraine and Georgia compare in another detail, too. Both were and are haunted by massive corruption in the political system and institutions, weakening their resilience and ability to resist Russia from within.The revolutionary must make unequivocal demands that, if met, would mean the obliteration of the current power structure. And the revolutionary must never compromise on these demands. The public exposure of corrupt centers of power, including the military, saps the confidence and credibility of the ruling elites. As a revolutionary force gathers momentum, the ruling elites attempt to make concessions that further weaken their credibility and strength.Karma?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0DbuOrdiVM

The commanders of the Georgian units in Ukraine that are part of the military committee of the Caucasian Union decided to return to Georgia at an extraordinary meeting, and are waiting for a signal from the president of Georgia! Are ready to protect the population of Georgia in any way. https://x.com/lado25031988/status/1863210239677346014 The revolution has now veteran, battle hardened defenders bet they do not go empty-handed Ukraine will give them gifts for the Georgian people.

Jimbuna
12-01-24, 11:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sowTYeiU3SQ

Jimbuna
12-01-24, 11:19 AM
In November, 45,720 occupiers were killed: These are largest losses of Russian army in manpower since beginning of full-scale invasion, - Ministry of Defense. INFOGRAPHICS

In November 2024, the Russian army suffered the largest irreversible and sanitary losses in manpower since the beginning of the large-scale invasion - 45,720 soldiers.

This was reported by the Ministry of Defense, Censor.NET reports.

As noted, this is the number of conditionally more than three motorized rifle divisions of the Russian Army.

According to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in November, our soldiers killed 2030 enemy soldiers in one day. This is also the highest rate of enemy losses per day since February 24, 2022.

In November, Ukrainian troops also destroyed 307 enemy tanks. This is the highest figure for this fall (in September, 291 enemy tanks were destroyed or damaged, and in October - 279). There are 31 vehicles in a Russian tank battalion, so in the last month of the fall of 2024, the Kremlin army lost almost 10 tank battalions to destruction and damage. The estimated cost of this amount of equipment is equivalent to $450 million.

In addition, as a result of the active combat work of the Defense Forces in November 2024, 899 enemy armored combat vehicles were destroyed. Conventionally, this is the number of armored combat vehicles of almost four motorized rifle divisions. This number of armored combat vehicles cost the budget of the aggressor country at least half a billion dollars.

Also, 884 units of enemy artillery were destroyed last month. There are 18 self-propelled artillery systems in one artillery division of the occupiers' army. Thus, our soldiers have deprived 49 artillery divisions of the ability to conduct combat operations. The cost of this number of artillery systems is about 700 million dollars.

"If we talk about the enemy's total losses in weapons and equipment in November 2024, their estimated cost is more than $3 billion. In September and October, this figure was lower. Therefore, the Kremlin continues to spend enormous amounts of money to continue the war," the Defense Ministry summarized.

As a reminder, since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, Ukrainian defenders have eliminated 742,130 Russian invaders.

https://i.postimg.cc/zG0Cv00T/780x780.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522823

Dargo
12-01-24, 12:51 PM
Putin has signed the budget law for 2025. The figures have been known for quite some time, so there are no surprises, but nonetheless 32% of all expenditures, amounting to 41.47 trillion rubles (387.34 billion USD by comparison the US allocated $824Bn.), will be allocated to military spending, setting an absolute record. As his economy continues to degrade it will probably become an even destructive factor when they don't have money for both, which will they cut, spending on maintenance of his public sector or missiles? No matter where they cut, their economy will get destroyed for decades. Because they got two months and in these two months they will fail to win this war after January there will be a US veteran general from deep Cold War wreaking Russia there will be a deal that makes this US general and president look they won this war not Putin. Russia will be left with a destroyed economy certainly when they stop this war and if Putin is not willing, Ukraine will get what it needs to convince Putin to accept the US deal. Scenario will be like after WW2 Germany a part that goes to Russia (tiny and not permanently) and a West part that we will make great verrryyy great this will become the power house (frontier) against Russia. Prove me wrong, really prove me wrong that Trump does not want a deal on his legacy that makes him the biggest president in US history, I really dear you. This narcissist ego has wet dreams every day for this legacy!

Jimbuna
12-01-24, 12:54 PM
Hopefully it'll all go some way down this path.

Jimbuna
12-01-24, 01:18 PM
In 2025, EU will allocate 1.5 billion euros to Ukraine every month, - Costa

The European Union will provide economic and military assistance to Ukraine. Thus, it is planned to allocate 4.2 billion euros to support the Ukrainian budget by the end of the year, and in 2025 the EU will transfer 1.5 billion euros to Ukraine every month.

This was announced today in Kyiv during a joint press conference with President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy, President of the European Council Antonio Costa, Censor.NET reports citing Ukrinform.

"This month, the European Union will provide Ukraine with an additional 4.2 billion euros to support the Ukrainian budget. In addition to this, starting next month (January - Ed.), we will provide another year, every month, 1.5 billion euros of assistance. These funds come from the use of frozen Russian assets, and they can also be used for military purposes," said the President of the European Council. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522824

Dargo
12-01-24, 02:04 PM
Russia's ability to attack in Vovchansk is limited by Russia's deployments to Kursk. The idea that attacking Kursk did not draw forces away from attacking the Ukrainian lines is objectively wrong. The book is closed on that argument. ATACMS strikes on Russia had no significant consequence for anyone except Russia. Their blustering about red lines was geared only towards fools, and only fools fell for it. People like Joe Rogan, who have inadequate understanding of reality. The Russian response to ATACMS consisted little more than flaunting their useless missile that costs too much money and gives no abilities it doesn't already have with cheaper and more effective weapons. Not only much more expensive, but also much less accurate. And then everything returned to normal. https://bsky.app/profile/andrewperpetua.bsky.social/post/3lcaxzeiln22t

Russia loses almost 46,000 troops, over $3 billion worth of military equipment in NovemberThe Russian army suffered record losses in military equipment and personnel in November in the war against Ukraine, Ukraine's Defense Ministry reported on Dec. 1. Russian losses at the front increased significantly in the fall, while Russia continued to advance in the Donetsk sector, aiming to capture the towns of Pokrovsk and Kurakhove. In November, 45,720 Russian soldiers were wounded, killed, or captured and thus unable to continue participating in combat operations. This number is equivalent to more than three motorized rifle divisions of the Russian army, according to the ministry.

November also saw the record broken for the enemy personnel losses in one day with 2,030, the highest figure since Feb. 24, 2022. In November, Ukrainian forces also destroyed 307 Russian tanks, 899 armored combat vehicles, and 884 pieces of artillery. According to the ministry's calculations, Russia's lost weapons and equipment in November is estimated to be worth over $3 billion, which is more than in September and October. As of the morning of Dec. 1, the Russian army had lost about 742,130 soldiers, according to the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Over the past day, Russian losses amounted to 1,730 people. https://kyivindependent.com/russia-loses-record-almost-46-000-troops-over-3-billion-worth-of-military-equipment-in-november-defense-ministry-says/

mapuc
12-01-24, 02:58 PM
How much land have Russia been taking during Nov. 2024 ?

It doesn't matter how many thousands men Putin lose as long they are advancing.

Markus

Dargo
12-01-24, 03:39 PM
How much land have Russia been taking during Nov. 2024 ?

It doesn't matter how many thousands men Putin lose as long they are advancing.

Markus0,00... & something, this year nothing to talk about Russia occupies almost 20% of Ukraine and about 3 to 3.5 million Ukrainians are estimated to be living under occupation; since the invasion, the occupied territories lost roughly half of their population that has not changed much. So-and-so many square miles says not much to me, I look at the big picture and figure out the percentage that I understand better what it means. Also, oh the importance of a place or area says nothing, moment city falls that city importance swift back to 0 you do not need it anymore to defend the front behind it because that front is not there anymore.

Skybird
12-01-24, 06:15 PM
@Markus
Since the summer offensive began, Russia took several times as much territory than in all 2023 alltogether.
It also retook around ~50% of the territory in Kursk temporarily lost to Ukraine.
Currently Ukraine looses several dozen square kilometers per day. Not much per day, but over weeks and months it adds up.
The loss of territory by Ukraine in the Pokrovsk region ever accelerates (some media write it slowed down a bit, but there is no credible supporting observation for that). Russland amasses troops there and raises its troop levels there despite very severe losses.

mapuc
12-01-24, 06:37 PM
@Markus
Since the summer offensive began, Russia took several times as much territory than in all 2023 alltogether.
It also retook around ~50% of the territory in Kursk temporarily lost to Ukraine.
Currently Ukraine looses several dozen square kilometers per day. Not much per day, but over weeks and months it adds up.
The loss of territory by Ukraine in the Pokrovsk region ever accelerates (some media write it slowed down a bit, but there is no credible supporting observation for that). Russland amasses troops there and raises its troop levels there despite very severe losses.

Thank you Marc for answering my question.

Now Ukraine having problems with desertion. Which doesn't comes as some surprise-There have always been soldiers who have deserted from the frontline. However the number have gone straight up lately.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q42zCBoSL44
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Markus

Skybird
12-01-24, 07:20 PM
I red a piece by an Ukrainian sociologist inside Ukraine today, he said that according to his observations two out of three Ukrainians are in favour of negotiating with Russia and even agreeing to concessions if that brings them what they hope to be "peace".

The terrror bombardment of the civilian population that Russia conducts since three years and especially intensely in winters, pays off. Humans have a breaking point beyond which their psychological resilience falls apart. I cannot criticise them for it. They are just humans.

Its tragic that something so brutal and draconic indeed finds its rewards. The people are at the end of the strength. Being a fragile human means one necessarily has limits for what one can bear. And predators like Putin know that.

I think one way or the other the current hot phase of the war will come to an end next year. It will not be peace, but an uncomfortable and fragile ceasefire of unknown duration.

Jimbuna
12-02-24, 08:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O13gQVcG2Q

Jimbuna
12-02-24, 09:03 AM
EU is not discussing sending troops to Ukraine - EC

The European Commission is not currently discussing the issue of sending troops to Ukraine.

This was stated by the head of the European Commission's press service, Paula Pinho, Censor.NET reports citing Interfax-Ukraine.

"In order for the troops to be sent, all member states must agree to this. This discussion has not yet taken place. Europe does not yet have a position on this issue," she said.

Foreign Policy Spokesperson Anitta Hipper, meanwhile, reiterated the European Union's position that "the EU will support Ukraine for as long as it takes".

"All options are on the table and this is the basis on which the EU will continue to work and coordinate its efforts," she said.

Foreign troops in Ukraine
The High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Kaja Kallas, believes that the appearance of foreign troops in Ukraine should not be ruled out.

The day before, the French newspaper Le Monde cited sources as saying that Europe was once again discussing the possibility of sending Western troops to Ukraine. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3522971

Dargo
12-02-24, 12:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnwF4kb6GHg

Dargo
12-02-24, 12:20 PM
I red a piece by an Ukrainian sociologist inside Ukraine today, he said that according to his observations two out of three Ukrainians are in favour of negotiating with Russia and even agreeing to concessions if that brings them what they hope to be "peace".

The terrror bombardment of the civilian population that Russia conducts since three years and especially intensely in winters, pays off. Humans have a breaking point beyond which their psychological resilience falls apart. I cannot criticise them for it. They are just humans.

Its tragic that something so brutal and draconic indeed finds its rewards. The people are at the end of the strength. Being a fragile human means one necessarily has limits for what one can bear. And predators like Putin know that.

I think one way or the other the current hot phase of the war will come to an end next year. It will not be peace, but an uncomfortable and fragile ceasefire of unknown duration.See https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2934700&postcount=5439 it is not black or white yes they want peace but not at the cost of losing sovereignty they certainly do not want back under the yoke of russia surveys show they in majority do not want to give away to much. ukraine people are not yet broken.

mapuc
12-02-24, 12:22 PM
Now I wonder:
How much affect would an economical collapse of the Russian economy have on the war in Ukraine ?

Markus

Dargo
12-02-24, 01:06 PM
Now I wonder:
How much affect would an economical collapse of the Russian economy have on the war in Ukraine ?

MarkusThe Russian Revolution started because of this reason women in St Petersburg demanded that food price to be lowered do not say it happens now, but it could. In general, you need food, fuel for your army if that sector of the economy fails your army starts to starve. And reports are for more than 900 days that those on the front hardly get clean water or good food. Russian soldiers get Red Army rations he Vlad, I found a couple of glorious soviet rations let sell it to those UnterRussians at the front. :hmmm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ9XKCWOe-A

Dargo
12-02-24, 01:28 PM
Russia Says West Wants Ukraine Ceasefire To Rearm Kyiv (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/12/02/russia-says-west-wants-ukraine-ceasefire-to-rearm-kyiv-a87200)The West is "starting to talk about a ceasefire as a means to give Ukraine a respite, and give themselves the opportunity to once again pump Ukraine up with modern long-range weapons," Lavrov said during a meeting in Moscow with his Hungarian counterpart Peter Szijjarto.He/they are not wrong shyting your pants Sergei? :har:

Russia’s Sberbank Expects 22-23% Key Rate Hike (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/12/02/russias-sberbank-expects-22-23-key-rate-hike-a87192)Russia’s largest lender Sberbank expects the Central Bank to raise its key interest rate to as high as 23% later this month in its fight against rising prices, a senior executive said Monday.

“There’s a high probability of a rate hike by either one or two percentage points because we see that inflation is still relatively high,” Sberbank’s Deputy Chairman of the Board Kirill Tsarev was quoted by the state-run RIA Novosti news agency as saying...

Kremlin Crafting ’Narrative of Victory’ in Ukraine – Kommersant (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/12/02/kremlin-crafting-narrative-of-victory-in-ukraine-kommersant-a87189)The Russian public should interpret any future outcome of what the Kremlin calls its “special military operation” in Ukraine as a victory, the officials were reportedly told.

“The presidential administration proceeds from the assumption that the special military operation will end and we should be ready,” Kommersant quoted one of its sources as saying after a four-day seminar with deputy governors last week.

They are expected to align with Russia’s so-called “calm majority,” which Kommersant says would be “satisfied” with President Vladimir Putin’s outlined goals of denazification and demilitarization in Ukraine, as well as with Russia’s control over the four partially occupied regions of Ukraine.

The Kremlin reportedly seeks the deputy governors’ help in expanding the “calm majority” to drown out the “angry patriots” and “liberals,” who hold opposing visions of the war in Ukraine.They are preparing the public smell the fear for their own. :D
Russia’s Senate Speaker Expects Ukraine Talks in 2025 (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/12/02/russias-senate-speaker-expects-ukraine-talks-in-2025-a87188)The likelihood of a genuine attempt to start such negotiations and meetings in 2025 is much higher than the likelihood that no such attempt will be made, Valentina Matviyenko, the speaker of Russia’s upper legislative house told the pro-Kremlin Argumenty i Fakty newspaper.

mapuc
12-02-24, 03:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBoo3RHadFg

Edit
These North Korean will be a problem for little Un when some of them return
They have taste the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGPlwEV5jAU
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Markus

Skybird
12-02-24, 04:08 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4x9gz4ylwo

Catfish
12-02-24, 05:02 PM
^ " ..hold out and wait for Trump." ?
We will see.

mapuc
12-02-24, 05:40 PM
^ " ..hold out and wait for Trump." ?
We will see.

I think the whole world is holding its breath.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xCUsYzA23s

Markus

Jimbuna
12-03-24, 07:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYzn-Tp-yoE

Jimbuna
12-03-24, 07:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXieNj5XZdk

Dargo
12-03-24, 12:46 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/MX2xfX4h/Nov.jpg

mapuc
12-03-24, 12:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682Dh78w2nQ

Edit
A good question indeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlRDYkLkvIU
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Markus

Jimbuna
12-03-24, 02:01 PM
Rutte on helping Ukraine: Energy needs to be restored, air defense needs to be strengthened, and aid needs to arrive on time

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said that the main areas of assistance to Ukraine are the restoration of energy infrastructure, strengthening of air defense and strengthening of military support.

He said this in Brussels during a joint press statement with Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha, Censor.NET reports citing Ukrinform.

"First of all, we have to help you restore your energy networks and energy infrastructure as best we can. We cannot allow winter to become a weapon against Ukraine. We discussed this with Anthony Blinken this morning, and this is a crucial element. Secondly, we have to ensure a reliable air defense. We have already done a lot, but more needs to be done to make the country as safe as possible in terms of air defense. Thirdly, we have to make sure that military aid comes to Ukraine," Rutte explained.

He also expressed his respect for the Ukrainian leadership and the whole of Ukraine, which is courageously resisting unprovoked and unacceptable Russian aggression.

"I really want to assure you that your allies are with you... Today, not only the United States, but also Germany, Norway, Estonia, Lithuania and the United Kingdom have announced new military aid packages to Ukraine. Much more needs to be done so that you can one day decide whether to move forward with some kind of negotiations with the Russians, and so that you can do so from a position of strength. This is what we will discuss tonight," the Secretary General said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3523253

Skybird
12-03-24, 05:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlRDYkLkvIU
Markus
What Putin is really after?

To get the US out of Europe.

mapuc
12-03-24, 05:26 PM
What Putin is really after?

To get the US out of Europe.

Which may come earlier than he thinks.

Should not surprise me if Trump withdraw most or all of US troops in Europe. This to use them in the far East.
This is nothing but pure spekulation

Markus

mapuc
12-03-24, 05:53 PM
Not going to happen-Putin does not have the nerve to do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j88Td1N9H8M

Markus

Skybird
12-04-24, 08:57 AM
[FOCUS] There has been an incident between a Bundeswehr helicopter and a Russian ship in the Baltic Sea. The crew of the Russian ship fired signal ammunition, according to the German Press Agency in Brussels. The helicopter had been on a reconnaissance mission.

Jimbuna
12-04-24, 09:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fg8iGQ3ZmY

Jimbuna
12-04-24, 09:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo8sfG8CTmk

Dargo
12-04-24, 12:46 PM
“The proof of the pudding is the generals aren’t good enough, and they’ll fail in Ukraine. They’ll fail in Syria.” Putin faces a “logistic nightmare” as Russian stockpiles are reducing and army generals struggle to conduct “the theatre of war”, says retired Major General Rupert Jones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjGtE-7SKs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2RNWsaw5lE

Jimbuna
12-04-24, 12:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paTLAiEoc7c

Jimbuna
12-04-24, 12:57 PM
NATO to create drone fleet to protect cables in Baltic and Mediterranean Seas

NATO has begun planning to create its fleet of unmanned boats to protect critical underwater infrastructure in the Baltic and Mediterranean Seas, as Pierre Vandier, NATO's Commander for Concepts and Transformation, says in an interview with Defense News.

After a series of damages to submarine cables in European waters over the past year (the most recent occurred just a few weeks ago), senior NATO officials began developing a concept that would allow the alliance to have constant surveillance above and below the water.

Admiral Vandier likened the idea to police surveillance cameras mounted on streetlights in urban hotspots to capture evidence of crime.

“The technology is there to make this street-lighting with USVs (unmanned surface vessels - ed.),” he said.

Vandier's team is in the early stages of developing a fleet of drones so that NATO can see and monitor the environment on a daily basis.

The first step is to achieve this goal on the surface and then underwater.

The new project has already received a full support from the central command of all NATO naval forces, known as MARCOM, and the alliance's operational headquarters, SACEUR.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/nato-to-create-drone-fleet-to-protect-cables-in-baltic-and-mediterranean-seas/ar-AA1vgssk?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=da3cf1bbe46b43ce98ad8bd9f254a3cc&ei=41

mapuc
12-04-24, 02:50 PM
Oh do I wish it was true-That Putin already had lost the war in Ukraine.

We are bombarded with propaganda from both side of this conflict.

I who support Ukraine have an tendency to believe what comes from Ukraine and the West. I am aware of this.

Therefore I expect the worse and hope for the best.

Edit
Russian food prices are soaring — but no one dares blame Putin and the war
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/25/russias-inflation-is-so-bad-that-people-are-stealing-butter.html
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Markus

mapuc
12-04-24, 05:58 PM
I say we aren't close, despite the new doctrine in Russia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20CXVMp8ZQY

Markus

Jimbuna
12-05-24, 07:45 AM
Congress halts Ukraine aid as new administration takes charge


The Speaker of the House of Representatives, Mike Johnson, stated that Congress will not pass a new aid package for Ukraine in the coming weeks, as Joe Biden's administration proposed. Johnson announced that he would wait for Donald Trump to be sworn in and for his instructions.

Biden's administration requested the inclusion of $24 billion in the budget to support Ukraine, of which $16 billion was to replenish the US arsenals, and $8 billion for purchasing new weapons for Kyiv. Johnson stated that the situation in Ukraine is changing rapidly and decisions on this matter should belong to the new president.

"I do not plan to do this. I think changes are occurring every hour in Ukraine, and—as we predicted, and as I told you all a few weeks before the elections—if Donald Trump is elected, it will change the dynamics of the Russia-Ukraine war. And we are seeing that happening. So it's not Joe Biden's role to make such decisions," said Johnson during a press conference.

"We have a newly elected president, we will wait and follow the guidance of the new commander-in-chief. Therefore, I do not expect any funding for Ukraine right now," he added.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/congress-halts-ukraine-aid-as-new-administration-takes-charge/ar-AA1vhf7f?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=9cb2df06657e48b6abd115dcc68820b9&ei=56

Jimbuna
12-05-24, 07:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6GEjEDym_4

Dargo
12-05-24, 01:33 PM
Oh do I wish it was true-That Putin already had lost the war in Ukraine.

We are bombarded with propaganda from both side of this conflict.

I who support Ukraine have an tendency to believe what comes from Ukraine and the West. I am aware of this.

Therefore I expect the worse and hope for the best.

Edit

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/25/russias-inflation-is-so-bad-that-people-are-stealing-butter.html
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MarkusNot only Russian food prices are soaring, but winter crops is failing, Russian metals giant Rusal announced Monday that it will reduce aluminum production by at least 6% due to surging raw material costs and declining domestic demand, At least three Russian oil refineries could face closures next year as declining exports, high crude oil costs and soaring interest rates lead to mounting financial losses, Russian businesses are bracing themselves for a financial crunch that could put many of them out of business, Russia began importing Turkish butter last month with an initial 20-ton shipment. President Vladimir Putin has previously contended that Russia's war economy is well-balanced to supply both guns and butter, the Armageddon with butter is escalating we wouldn't be surprised if butter repeats last year's situation with eggs and the list goes on the problems will only grow. Coffin prices in Russia have soared by 74% since the start of full-scale invasion. :)

Jimbuna
12-05-24, 01:38 PM
Germany is building bunkers, Sweden distributes nuclear survival guides: Europe prepares for war

Things are getting increasingly tense in Europe, and several European nations are taking active steps to prepare what could be World War III.

The threat from Russia to Ukraine's allies is becoming more and more real, especially after Vladimir Putin's recent threat against the USA, France and Great Britain due to the nations allowing Ukraine to use long-range missiles in Russia.

Germany is now also reacting and is drawing up a plan in case Russia decides to attack. German authorities have realized that the country no longer has enough bunkers to keep its entire population safe, so it is time to upgrade.

According to the German newspaper Build, the current solution is therefore a bunker plan that the federal government is developing together with the states to improve Germany's security.

Germany isn't the only European country feeling paranoid. On November 18, the Swedish government announced it would be mailing out millions of booklets titled 'In Case of Crisis or War' offering guidance to residents.

CNN reported that the 32-page Swedish booklet, first introduced during World War II, will place a "greater emphasis on preparing for war," per a statement from the Swedish government on November 18.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/germany-is-building-bunkers-sweden-distributes-nuclear-survival-guides-europe-prepares-for-war/ss-BB1mhUzw?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=a9f21780bc5c442d883e16b5bc502cb8&ei=54#image=16

Jimbuna
12-05-24, 01:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGbuEjWpoY0

Dargo
12-05-24, 02:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1_XOaFXmbY

General Gerasimov, Chief of Russia's General Staff, called General Brown, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff last week. “at the request of General Gerasimov, General Brown agreed to not proactively announce the [very rare] call.” Interestingly, Gerasimov told Brown that the Oreshnik IRBM strike on Ukraine was planned long before President Biden authorized limited ATACMS strikes on internationally recognized Russian territory. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/04/us/politics/russian-general-call.html

Dargo
12-05-24, 03:10 PM
Russian marine surrenders in Kursk Oblast, reveals what’s happening in Russia’s armyRussian command is sending its troops to storm Ukrainian positions in Kursk Oblast after just two days of preparation. This was revealed in a video (https://t.me/Crimeanwind/71000) posted by the Crimean Wind public Telegram channel on Dec. 5, in which a soldier from the 810th separate guard marine brigade shared his experience. In the footage, the prisoner of war (POW) stated that he was from Moscow. “I signed a contract, then after the contract, they sent us to Kursk for training. In Kursk, we spent two days preparing—two days building a bakery, two days cleaning the area. Overall, there was zero preparation. They shot off two magazines and that’s it,” the Russian soldier said. He added that the attitude of Russian commanders toward their soldiers is “very bad.” “The commander says: Go. There’s no turning back. If you go back, we’ll wipe you out right away,” the POW explained about how Russians are sent on storming missions. The Russian soldier said he realized that his only chance to stay alive was to surrender.

On Aug. 12, Ukrainian President Zelenskyy confirmed the Defense Forces’ operation in Kursk Oblast, Russia for the first time. On Oct. 10, Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Oleksandr Syrskyi reported that Russia had transferred 50,000 soldiers to Kursk Oblast from other fronts. On Nov. 5, Defense Minister Rustem Umerov stated that the first small clash between Russian and North Korean forces occurred in the Kursk direction. On Nov. 10, The New York Times reported that Russia and North Korea were preparing a large offensive in Kursk Oblast, which could begin in the coming days. On Nov. 11, The Telegraph, citing its sources, reported that Russian dictator Vladimir Putin had ordered the return of Kursk Oblast to Russian control by Jan. 20, the inauguration day of elected U.S. President Donald Trump.

On Nov. 20, Bloomberg reported that Ukrainian Defense Forces had used Storm Shadow missiles for the first time to strike Russian territory, targeting a Russian military command center near Mariyno. A source within Ukraine’s Armed Forces told NV that as of Nov. 22, Ukraine’s Defense Forces controlled 800 square kilometers of Kursk Oblast, with the maximum area held by Ukrainian troops in the region at 1,376 square kilometers. The Center for Countering Disinformation at Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council denied reports that Ukraine’s Defense Forces had been instructed to hold Kursk Oblast until the inauguration of Donald Trump. https://english.nv.ua/nation/russian-marine-surrenders-in-kursk-oblast-reveals-what-s-happening-in-russia-s-army-50471873.html

mapuc
12-05-24, 03:40 PM
When will we see the first start of massive demonstration in Russia due to high prices on food ?

Will it ever happen ?

Because the Russian economy is in a bad shape

Markus