Helo & Flightsim Screenshot Thread! [Archive] - Page 3

Stryker412

07-20-07, 08:22 AM

Vegas:

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5245/200772003840500gj3.th.jpg (http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200772003840500gj3.jpg)http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3005/200772004239500eo8.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200772004239500eo8.jpg)http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/484/200772004255656rn2.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200772004255656rn2.jpg)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8375/20077200434234df2.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20077200434234df2.jpg)http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5463/20077200431446ah3.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20077200431446ah3.jpg)http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6138/200772004325687pj9.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200772004325687pj9.jpg)
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5744/200772004811984lu0.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200772004811984lu0.jpg)http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4271/20077201349953qd6.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20077201349953qd6.jpg)

Pics of NYC:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1754/2007718201645265jl5.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007718201645265jl5.jpg)http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6302/200771820195862bt7.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200771820195862bt7.jpg)http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7839/200771819501062xc1.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200771819501062xc1.jpg)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6613/2007718202523625ho2.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007718202523625ho2.jpg)

(http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007716224947531jw9.jpg)

Stryker412

07-20-07, 08:23 AM

Sydney:

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7331/200771622475993tp2.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200771622475993tp2.jpg)http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2914/2007716224927656tp3.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007716224927656tp3.jpg)http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2443/2007716224947531jw9.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2007716224947531jw9.jpg)

CaptainChunk

07-20-07, 12:53 PM

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9374/shotupff4.png

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2927/wardestroyingyx8.jpg

Morts

07-20-07, 12:57 PM

me having somefun with a russian plane
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/morty-dk/takethat.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/morty-dk/boom.jpg
:arrgh!:

[dc]Blade

07-20-07, 01:21 PM

Hi all thought i might add a few of my own hope you enjoy em:up:

P51 before startup at Pearson fields Nr Portland.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/russ21_uk/iviewcapture_date_05_02_2007_time_1.jpg

Moving out to the active.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/russ21_uk/iviewcapture_date_05_02_2007_tim-3.jpg

And a Video i made realy quickly of me flying a Phantom round a cloudy Mt Hood.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/russ21_uk/th_Untitled_0001.jpg (http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/russ21_uk/?action=view&current=Untitled_0001.flv)

GSpector

07-20-07, 02:55 PM

Wow, very nice video. I really liked the clouds as well.

[dc]Blade

07-20-07, 02:57 PM

Wow, very nice video. I really liked the clouds as well.

Thanks for the knid words :) The program i use is Flight enviroment for the clouds.

GSpector

07-20-07, 04:02 PM

Blade']Wow, very nice video. I really liked the clouds as well.

Thanks for the knid words :) The program i use is Flight enviroment for the clouds.

Is this an Add-on for FSX?

I would like to see a Sim simulate the SR-71 and of course, have a PC that can do it justice ;)

Of course, I'd be happy with another F-117a Stealth Fighter Sim like MPS had many years ago. I spent many hours with that Sim.

Jimbuna

07-20-07, 04:46 PM

@Blade :rock: :up:

XabbaRus

07-20-07, 04:57 PM

And this is how I took out Hunter the other night.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9058/hunterdd4.jpg

HunterICX

07-21-07, 04:01 AM

:shifty: bloody Kamikazi pilot!:rotfl:

Jimbuna

07-21-07, 06:46 AM

:lol: .....................:up:

[dc]Blade

07-21-07, 07:43 AM

OMG what a mess!!!!!:rotfl:

Chock

07-22-07, 09:36 PM

This is me doing a VA flight for WestWind from Manchester to Galway, over the Irish Sea, merrily getting above the thunderstorms which real world weather kindly put on for me! No doubt that's why most of the UK is flooded at the moment:rotfl:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/WestWindATR.jpg

At Carnmore, Galway a little bit later on:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/ATR72atGalway.jpg

:D Chock

danlisa

07-25-07, 02:05 PM

By far the best skin I have sen for the Spitfire.:up: My fav.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/Invasion.jpg

Dowly

07-25-07, 03:48 PM

Indeed, that's one awesome skin. But why are there windows aft of the cockpit? :doh:

Jimbuna

07-25-07, 04:36 PM

Very nice :rock: ...Looks like a 44 version :hmm:

Chock

07-25-07, 07:35 PM

On the subject of Just Flight's Cargo Pilot (as we were the other day), this is one of the fleet for my cargo company - the venerable Boeing 737-200 with the smokey (and very noisy) old P&W JT8 turbojets. Atlantic Bridge being the freight company I invented. It's a deliberately simple paint scheme, so it doesn't take me ages to repaint aeroplanes in my colours, because I am lazy!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/AtlanticBridge737-200.jpg

:D Chock

Oberon

07-30-07, 02:18 PM

So, I had a tinker with BOB2, and got it to work properly (had it installed alongside the first BOB...duh!) And boy! What a sim! I love it! All the beauty of the first installment with nicer graphics and better sound! I think I know what I'm going to be doing for the next few days, hunting Me109s over Dover! :up:

Some pics:

1) Dogfight, me in the Spit vs the AI in the 109, he was a good mover, but couldn't manage to get a shot on me whilst I got a few on him.
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/7425/shot002la9.jpg

2) Had him lined up for another good burst when the dreaded *click-click-click* happened. Passed over him, wished him luck and then broke off.
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7727/shot003rd5.jpg

3) Headed back to good ol' Biggin Hill, gear and flaps down ready to land. First time I've landed in BOB2...
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5588/shot005nw4.jpg

4) Oh...bugger...
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1356/shot007sz6.jpg

5) Up again, now fighting a raid in the evening light, you've gotta feel sorry for this 109, he's got me and another Spit on his tail.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7108/shot009md3.jpg

6 and 7) Ignoring the calls of my CO (That's gonna cop me a rollicking back at base), I follow the wounded 109 and set his engine on fire, sorry Fritz, c'est le guerre.
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9965/shot010ql8.jpg
(I love that cockpit...)
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/8628/shot011hw9.jpg

Jimbuna

07-30-07, 02:48 PM

That's made my mind up for me Oberon....gotta get BOB2 :rock:

Dowly

07-30-07, 02:52 PM

That's made my mind up for me Oberon....gotta get BOB2 :rock:

Yep, you gotta get it. Brilliant game. :up:

HunterICX

07-30-07, 03:01 PM

That's made my mind up for me Oberon....gotta get BOB2 :rock:
Yep, you gotta get it. Brilliant game. :up:
:shifty: he barely touches IL2 me thinks...:rotfl:

Jimbuna

07-30-07, 03:46 PM

Cheeky kass kop...I'll see kratos ;)

HunterICX

07-30-07, 05:04 PM

Cheeky kass kop...I'll see kratos ;)

:o KRATOS RUN!!!!!!!!!!:rotfl:

GSpector

07-30-07, 10:26 PM

Hello,

BOB2 looks very nice. I have a few questions:

1 - Do you only fly for the British or is German side available?

2 - Are there any Awards such as Promotions and Medals.

3 - Can you enlist in a full Campaign?

Chock

07-30-07, 10:53 PM

You can fly for either side, but the campaign is a little odd, as to fly a pilot campaign you have to faff around a bit. Basically the core of the sim is to be a controller running the camapign for either the RAF or the Luftwaffe, and this is very detailed (if not totally realistic, since it's possible to win for the Luftwaffe, which was never on the cards in real life). You are able to plan tactics, raids etc, then, having done that, you can jump into any of your aircraft and fly the missions. How all this works is broadly similar to the fighter control operations rooms and sector stations theatre maps with Hostiles and friendlies marked out on it that you will have seen in books and films concerning the Battle of Britain.

Alternatively, there are a number of pre-set historical scenarios in which you can fly, or, you can set up one yourself, i.e. four Spitfires Mk1As from such-and-such a squadron versus 3 Stuka B1s from such-and-such a Staffel, or whatever, with options for height, weather, time of day, positions, skill of enemy etc.

There is no actual 'pilot campaign' as in 'join JG26 and fly through the Luftwaffe's BoB campaign', although if you wanted to do that, it would be possible by opting to automate much of the Luftwaffe controller tasks and then leaping into a JG26 aircraft whenever they set off on a mission. It's the lack of an actual pilot campaign that put many people off the sim (in its original incarnation) in the first place, and you can see their point, as it would have been far more sensible to include such an option.

It's a good flight sim, and it has more graphics and realism options than pretty much any other combat flight sim out there, so you can ease yourself into it (much better than it was on its original release) and recent patches have improved it massively, but it is far easier to fly a simple pilot campaign in CFS3 or IL2, and of course, there is a new Battle of Britain flight sim due for release in just a few week's time if that aspect bothers you. But for about ten quid (as this sim is) it's definitely worth having in my opinion. Be warned though, the flight model on realistic settings is quite tricky to master, but fun when you do so (expect to crash on take off and landing a lot at first). It's a lot harder to shoot stuff down in this than it is in IL2 or CFS3 too.

One major plus point is that the Spitfire does have a brilliant virtual cockpit which is great with TrackIR, and it's probably worth your cash just for that.

Expect the newer BoB sim, due soon, to blow it out of the sky though.

:D Chock

GSpector

07-31-07, 12:03 AM

Hello,

A new BOB Sim? Do you know the title or the website?

I'm waiting for the WWI Flight Sim to come out. It looks good so far.

As far as Flight Sims go, I'm enjoying Over Flanders Field.

Dowly

07-31-07, 12:04 AM

Expect the newer BoB sim, due soon, to blow it out of the sky though.

:D Chock

If it still has the old silly looking tracers that IL2 has now, BoB II still wins it. :yep:

Chock

07-31-07, 08:27 AM

A new BOB Sim? Do you know the title or the website?

here's a few links for it:

http://www.simhq.com/_air6/air_220a.html

http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/1021002/Storm-Of-War-Battle-Of-Britain/Product.html

:D Chock

Kratos

07-31-07, 10:12 AM

Finally loaded BOB2 and patched to 2.06 update, Had a quick look around,done the training take off and tried (emphasize) tried to land ;).First impressions ''not to sure'' Its not like IL2, for navigating around controls/settings etc.plus wasn't greatly impressed with the graphics as of yet, think i might have to tweak them a bit to get to my liking...everything was a bit blocky like having a lego landscape :-?,but that might be me in my haste to get game installed and start playing. Im not giving up yet ....i'll give it another couple of hours :rotfl:

Jimbuna

07-31-07, 10:21 AM

You always were an impatient bugger weren't you.......Popeye :rotfl:

Dowly

07-31-07, 10:24 AM

Oberon

07-31-07, 10:54 AM

Kratos

07-31-07, 12:14 PM

@ Dowly cheers matey wasn't aware there was a mod :up:

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7345/emot62lq0.gif

Dowly

07-31-07, 01:15 PM

No problem, mate. Also, I'd recommend to download the multiskin pack. It adds accurate camos & emblems for all the squadron planes. :up:

Chock

07-31-07, 01:16 PM

Am I the only one who finds BOB2 easier than IL2? I mean, I have the Flight Model on realistic on BOB2 but rarely stall badly, on IL2 I stall on the drop of a hat, I can take off (mostly) and land alright on BOB2 but make a right dogs ear of both on IL2 (particularly the take-off bit) And on BOB2 I've managed to amount a few 109s and a Heinkel over the past two days, whereas on IL2 I'm lucky to hit the broad side of a barn!

Perhaps it's because I played the original BOB a lot when it first came out whereas I'm quite new to the IL2 scene.... :hmm:

I think it might be that BoB2's flight modelling and gunnery is probably more like a real aircraft's - not always a good thing, given that one has to compensate for the lack of peripheral vision and sensory feedback one gets when really flying. So if you fly it like you would the real thing, youll probably do okay in BoB2.

I still reckon IL2 spins more realistically of the two (which for me, is invariably a reasonable test of whether a flight model is good), but then again, neither aircraft in BoB2 or IL2 spin as realistically as they do in Condor - which has a flight model that makes all other flight sims look like a bad joke, so one would hope that Storm of War might see a further improvement on that front. Spin recoveries in BoB2 are appallingly badly replicated.

IL2's gunnery and enemy AI is very weak in comparison to BoB2 and CFS3 though, often with numerous cannon rounds required to make a kill in IL2, whereas any decent autobiography of a WW2 pilot will confirm that three or four hits with a cannon was usually enough to, if not destroy an aeroplane, then at least put it out of contention in the fight. I certainly hope they have changed that for Storm of War, as if not, it will be a bit of a let-down for me. I've lost count of the amount of times I've hammered the living crap out of a fighter or bomber in IL2, only to have some wingman come along, pop two rounds into it and exclaim: 'I got one!'. That is really bloody annoying in IL2.

Where IL2 does sometimes score is on physical appearance of damage modelling, which, although not totally realistic in all cases, is nevertheless fair, in that AI aircraft and your own are subject to the same damage modelling and resilience, whereas the graphical damage modelling in BoB2 is greatly simplified by comparison. Ironically though, if you damage a fighter in IL2, it very often will try and perform just as well as an undamaged one in a fight against you, whereas aircraft in BoB2 do seem to react to damage and try to break off the fight in my experience.

I think on the whole, the bad points of BoB2 are the missing aircraft, such as the British light and medium bombers and heavy fighters, and the similarly absent Italian aircraft and German air-sea rescue aeroplanes. The lack of a basic pilot campaign is a real minus point for me too. If it had those, it would be damn near perfect, and every time I fire it up and bemoan the lack of those, I always end up saying to myself: 'What were they thinking to miss those out!?'.

Given Oleg's inclination to put everything including the kitchen sink in his flight sims, I imagine there will at least be a more comprehensive spread of aircraft in Storm of War. Although I'm guessing he'll forget the Itallians too!

:D Chock

Oberon

07-31-07, 02:32 PM

Yeah, I see what you mean there Chock, the Mossie is there as a ground model, I strafed one with a Stuka yesterday but not flyable or flown...but, since the campaign focuses primarily on the day time defence I guess that can be forgiven. Although, like you say, not having the Italian squadron, or the sea rescue is a shame, likewise having an unflyable Defiant, although they didn't make it all the way through the battle...but then again, neither did the Stuka, and that's flyable...

The damage model is rather poor, I've seen a picture of a Spit falling with the middle section of its port wing gone but the tip still floating in the air connected invisibly to the aircraft :doh: In that respects, IL2 outshines...well...just about every other sim out there, despite its AI deficiencies, likewise the ability to fly the bombers rather than just be gunner is a nice touch in IL2, there's nothing like trying to hold together a HE-111 whilst HunterICX is picking you apart with a FW-190... :lol:

The campaign is nice for those (like me) who like strategy and want to have a bash at rewriting history (even if the Luftwaffe have a slightly unhistorical advantage) or trying to put yourself in the shoes of Dowding...buuuut, it is rather confusing and at times quite hard, but with a bit of fiddling, it's possible to do a single pilot campaign, I've just started one with 151 squadron out of Manston :up: But, it's not quite as user-friendly as IL2 in that respect, and not quite as tweakable.
Another thing that I enjoy with BOB2 is the atmosphere, the radio-chatter especially, I know that you get radio chatter with IL2, but it doesn't seem quite as, I dunno, quite as right as BOB2...although I do love IL2s graphics, the sea, the clouds, it's nice to dogfight in the clouds in IL2, in fact that's a part of my strategy when facing Dowly and the lads, run like F**k for the clouds...and then usually get shot down just before entering them. :know:

Really, there's not much of a way you can compare IL2 to BOB, since although they model similar aircraft, they model them in different time frames (He-111 and Hurri excepted) and whilst BOB2 focuses on one particular conflict, IL2 focuses on whole FRONTS, Pacific, Eastern, Norway, the possibilities are endless...

That's why both are sitting on my hard-drive :up: :up: :up:

Oh, and my deepest wish is that Oleg takes all the good things of BOB2 and IL2, and puts them together in Storm of War.

Oberon

08-02-07, 11:58 AM

"Ladies and Gentlemen, this is your guard speaking, I'm afraid to announce that due to aircraft, this train will be delayed at arriving at its destination..."
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3263/grab0000xv6.jpg

"Ja Hans, zis new display smoke vill surely impress ze crowds!"
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4558/grab0001pv9.jpg

Any landing you can crawl away from is a good one!

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8591/grab0005dc6.jpg

Heinkell down!

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5228/shot036da6.jpg

Pilot: "Argh, that crazy Subsimmer is back again...quick...keep walking away!"
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5122/shot037mj0.jpg

:up:

Dowly

08-02-07, 01:20 PM

Rofl @ the last one. :rotfl:

HunterICX

08-03-07, 03:27 AM

:rotfl: that last one!
good one!:up:

Jimbuna

08-03-07, 04:56 AM

Was that last one the Dutch Airforce undergoing manouvres ? :hmm:

:rotfl:

HunterICX

08-03-07, 05:41 AM

Was that last one the Dutch Airforce undergoing manouvres ? :hmm:

:rotfl:

:hmm: Jimbuna, enlighten me, what are you trying to tell me :lol:

Jimbuna

08-03-07, 06:07 AM

Was that last one the Dutch Airforce undergoing manouvres ? :hmm:

:rotfl:

:hmm: Jimbuna, enlighten me, what are you trying to tell me :lol:

Airman "but sir, the enemy are that way (pointing towards his plane)

Officer "never mind, keep marching alongside me, the war will be over in 4 or 5 days anyway" ;)

Oberon

08-04-07, 06:56 PM

"Godspeed back to France, Fritz, I'm off home..."

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4681/shot036kb7.jpg

Stealth Hunter

08-04-07, 08:23 PM

Enjoy the backgrounds.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g17/Sgt-Smithy/IL2%20Sturmovik%20and%20Pacific%20Fighters/B-25_1280x960.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g17/Sgt-Smithy/IL2%20Sturmovik%20and%20Pacific%20Fighters/Val_1280x960.jpg

Jimbuna

08-04-07, 08:27 PM

Great shots :rock:

Kratos

08-05-07, 07:15 AM

Great shots :rock:

What would you know ??
you only look at sub pics :lol:
about time you got the joystick off the lad and joined in!!!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Jimbuna

08-05-07, 08:16 AM

He's flying to New York next Friday....so ya never know ;)

Kratos

08-06-07, 06:18 PM

Damn i'm so unhappy. forgot to switch on (record track) was doing a bit zero bashing on the pearl harbour raid2. Wasn't having much success like previous misions, then i thought back to a comment that Chock mentioned ''take em to the hills'' and do a bit of low flying,to see if i could shake the four little buggers off. wasn't having much luck and behold i saw the bridge over the river and decided to try my luck and go under , hehe two of them followed. One crapped the bridge smack in the middle, and the other lost control i turned back got the third , but sadly didn't notice the fourth zero coming over the ridge, as i turned tail he followed and got a few bursts out and rendered me useless bailed out and had a long bloody swim back home again.:cry:
:damn: I always record my tracks :damn:

Biggles

08-06-07, 06:32 PM

Wow! The buggers never follows ME under bridges!?:o

Chock

08-06-07, 11:49 PM

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/singleengineFSX2.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/727.jpg

:D Chock

Biggles

08-07-07, 02:46 AM

looks cool. I hope you can fly around the world just like you could in FS2000, otherwise I see little need of buying FSX. Wish I had some pics too.....

Chock

08-07-07, 11:44 AM

An innovation of FSX is that it does now model the world as round and has increased the altitude up to which you can now go.

This means you can indeed now fly realistically to any point on the Earth and has enable the Space Shuttle (seen on a recent thread) to be modeled, but the change in how things are done is what is slowing down development of add-on scenery and aircraft.

The main reason to buy FSX (apart from this) is that it models atmospheric effects much better. plus it has innovative support for scripted 'adventures' too, so things like thermal activity along with improved real-time downloads of real-world weather from meteorological stations is much improved. it is a much better 'flight simulator' than its predecessors.

It's a frame-rate hog though, that's for sure.

:D Chock

Chock

08-09-07, 12:12 AM

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/SunsetoverBordeauxenroutetoSpain.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/SunsetoverBordeauxenroutetoSpain1.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/SunsetoverBordeauxenroutetoSpain2.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/SunsetoverBordeauxenroutetoSpain3.jpg

:D Chock

Reaves

08-09-07, 01:45 AM

http://www.arianedesign.com/catalogue.asp?

Ever tried anything from these guys Chock? I purchased the 737BBJ for FS9 and found it pretty good. Very hard to fly and get the hang of but the virtual cockpit is the best quality i've ever seen.

Chock

08-09-07, 09:55 AM

I remember looking at the Ariane 737 and thinking it looked nice, although I seem to recall what put me off was not the aeroplane itself, but the website, which could have been a lot clearer with regard to what you needed and didn't need concerning all that 'base package' malarkey. I actually emailed them about it, suggesting they needed to clarify it. Never heard back from them, but I will take a look at the site again, as the may have made it easier to follow than it used to be, and it's always nice to get a recommendation from someone.

It might have just been me being thick (or drunk possibly, when I looked), but I've been put off a few places that sell stuff online for FS by that, RC Simulations website is like that too. If you want to be confused, go to their VOX ATC info page! Many times I've been all set to buy something from them, credit card in hand, and then thought, nope, I'll end up with the wrong thing based on how loopy your online purchasing is, and it is not as if I never buy stuff online, I do it all the time.

I do already have two add-on Boeing 737s for FS, the PMDG 737-800, and the (old style turbojet) Tin Mouse 737-200, but another one wouldn't hurt if it is good quality. Incidentally, the Tin Mouse 737 is free if you are looking for an old 737 for FS and it is outstandingly good for a freebie (it's got great engine sounds - wear your earplugs LOL), you can find it via the AVSIM forums, where it has its own support section. I posted a screenie of the TM 737 on here about a week or two ago (yellow repaint job) if you want to check it out for looks.

What I really want though, is a decent Airbus A320, and as far as I'm aware, there isn't any decent Airbus add-on for FS with the ECAM, CDU and FCS modeled accurately.

Anyway, cheers for the recommendation, I'll look at Ariane again and see if I can follow the destructions this time:rotfl:

:D Chock

Reaves

08-09-07, 10:38 PM

I know what you mean with the web site, it's not the best i've seen.

While the BBJ 737 is great it does have some flaws.

It's a LOT harder to fly, as you actually need to set your GPS position before even moving the airplane. There are a LOT more working buttons you need to use in the VC plus I never really figured the autopilot out properly as it is more advanced then your normal FS plane. Plus it needs online activation which takes at least a day to receive the email code. (Not a fan of waiting to use something i've paid for, downloaded AND installed.)

The whole interrior of the plane is modelled and you can get some great views out of the internal windows. But as I mentioned, the learning curve is steep, their aircraft require a lot of real world knowledge. But i'm sure if I could get it off the tarmac you should have no problems.

While I do like it, I recommend it with caution, they are quite expensive and imo are only for people who want a lot of realism with the aircraft.

Chock

08-09-07, 11:55 PM

Is the Ariane 737 better than the PMDG 737 would you say? I like the way the PMDG 737 flies, and although it could do with a working overhead in the VC, generally speaking it is pretty good, but if the Ariane one is better, then I might have to have it:rotfl:

I think the PMDG B747 pretty much set the benchmark for aeroplanes in FS9 in terms of systems it models, but I'm willing to be persuaded otherwise if there's something out there that does more, and for flying a sim, a medium range aircraft makes more sense, unless you really enjoy sitting at a monitor for eight hours in a simulated 747! So an improved 737 that is better than the PMDG offering, would be something I'd like very much.

By the way, if you want something that is really seriously impressive in terms of flying like the real thing, and which has every button and switch working as it does in the real thing, then the Aeroworx Beechcraft B200 King Air, which is in the night screenshots I posted on this thread is well worth having. It probably is the most convincing flight model I've come across in FS9, and FSX for that matter, and you don't need a degree in complex aircraft systems to fly it either. Although it is quite tricky to land it well when there's quite a lot of fuel on board, and it has a scary long take-off run when at full weight. But it almost gives you vertigo when flying it, it really is pretty convincing.

:D Chock

Reaves

08-10-07, 12:17 AM

I haven't tried the PMDG so I couldn't say. All I know is it's very complex as you can edit your waypoints via the Navdata computer http://www.arianedesign.com/displayImage.asp?imageID=163&imageType=3 (http://www.arianedesign.com/displayImage.asp?imageID=163&imageType=3)

Things like cruise speed, and many other things are input into here. I had a bit of trouble using the package because of it. Plus it seems many waypoints arn't in the FMC so errors occur. I would constantly find my plane way off course after leaving my PC for a few hours.

If they had a forum it would be great but the support and information on the website is severely lacking.

As I said it has it's problems (for me anyway as I prefer GPS autopilot when not using the stick myself ;)) so it's hard to recommend it.

AFRIKAKORPS

08-12-07, 07:14 PM

I took these few simple pictures after a short test flight with my new Venom. Its definitiely a great airplane to fly.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/africakorps/2007-8-12_14-33-36-718.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/africakorps/2007-8-12_14-33-22-687.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/africakorps/2007-8-12_14-38-48-609.jpg

Oberon

08-12-07, 08:00 PM

Dowly's excellant Subsim Aviators paintwork with a custom nose art I was playing around with on one side:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7406/grab0000ws2.jpg

And the squadron logo on the other:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2407/grab0001sd5.jpg

AFRIKAKORPS

08-12-07, 08:28 PM

My beatiful new SAAB Gripen, its such an elagent plane too.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/africakorps/2007-8-12_18-24-5-218.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/africakorps/2007-8-12_18-25-17-187.jpg

Chock

08-12-07, 11:21 PM

I like that DH Venom AK, is that the Alphasim one?

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Grumman.jpg

A screengrab of one of my FSX faves, try doing IFR with this in crap visibility if you like a challenge:

:D Chock

AFRIKAKORPS

08-12-07, 11:33 PM

You got it Chock, its the Alphasim version, and like every Alphasim aircraft its great. Their SAAB Gripen is great too, not only does it look amazing but it also handles very well. Is that a PBY Catalina flying boat? I would hate having to land that thing in a storm. How does it handle?

Chock

08-12-07, 11:42 PM

Thats the default Grumman Goose G21A that you get in FSX, one of the better default aircraft in FSX, It looks more like a payware aircraft in fact than most of the included ones.

It flies really well, very stable, easy to trim into level flight and it has an absolutely amazing virtual cockpit, very atmospheric. Apart from the (modern) radio stack, it has very few instruments suitable for IFR flight, but it has good stable flight characteristics (apart from when you drop the flaps and it goes badly out of trim - probably like the real thing I imagine). That's why I like doing IFR in it, because you can concentrate on the problems that having bugger all in the way of navigational instruments creates while not worrying about trimming it up for level flight.

And it's a Navy plane too, so it's cool.

:D Chock

AFRIKAKORPS

08-12-07, 11:51 PM

Surprisingly thats probably the one aircraft I haven't flown in FSX yet. It sounds like a lot of fun, and a challenge here and there doesn't hurt either. If theres one thing I enjoy about old prop aircraft is that you don't have to deal with a million computers while flying; you just use the essentials. How many custom aircraft do you have Chock? I would imagine quite a few.

Chock

08-13-07, 09:25 AM

Not as many as I would like, I want PMDG to get their asses in gear and make some of their stuff FSX compatible, and I'd love them to get a move on with their Airbus too, the FSX Airbus is dreadful, and all the current add-on ones don't model the ECAM properly, which is kind of the point of an Airbus:rotfl:

Without actually looking, these are the noteworthy ones I have in FSX (list below), although I do still fly a lot of the add-on aircraft I have for FS9 (which is a much longer list than this one LOL), because apart from the air-mass modeling of FSX, FS9 is almost as good, and I still have a lot of cool add-ons for FS9 that I like to use. The Flight 1 (Aeroworx) Beechcraft King Air B200 for FS9 is still the best add-on aircraft there is in my opinion (shame it won't work in FSX), the PMDG Boeing 747 for FS9 is a pretty close second though. FSX still has a lot of catching up to do.

Note that I have tweaked and messed around with a lot of the config files in some of these freeware ones, either to get them to work in FSX, or to improve the way they fly, and I've invariably repainted them too.

Cessna 172R (payware from Flight1)
Bucker 131B Jungmann (freeware from AVSIM)
Piaggio P149D (freeware from AVSIM)
Avions de Transport Regional ATR 72-500 (payware from Flight1)
Embraer EMB-120 (freeware via WestWind)
Airbus A340-200 and 300 (freeware via WestWind)
Boeing 727 Professional (various models), tweaked to run in FSX (payware from Just Flight {Captain Sim})
Lockheed L188 Electra (freeware via WestWind)
Douglas DC-8-71F (freeware via WestWind)
CASA (Junkers) 352L (freeware from AVSIM)
Douglas DC-6 (JBK version via AVSIM)
Vultee Valiant (JBK version via AVSIM)
Harrier GR-7 (freeware from AVSIM)
Pilatus PC-12 (payware from Flight1)
SA Pitts Special S1T (freeware from AVSIM)
WOP2 Boeing B-17 G (payware from Shockwave Productions)
Cessna 441 Conquest II (payware from Flight 1)
Boeing 247D (JBK version via AVSIM)
Bell UH-1D Iroqouis 'Huey' (payware from TTTS collection)
Aerospatiale Gazelle (payware from TTTS collection)

There are probably some others, but those are the ones I tend to mess about with, and I know all these work okay in FSX running on Vista. It would probably take me all day to list the add-on aircraft I have for FS9:rotfl:

:D Chock

GSpector

08-13-07, 10:35 AM

WHAT, No Blackbird listed :o

That's just not fare :nope:

Where's there sand for me to kick:hmm:

Chock

08-13-07, 10:41 AM

WHAT, No Blackbird listed

Actually I have got the Just Flight SR-71, but it is FS9 and not FSX. As far as I'm aware, there is no patch to make it FSX compatible.

:D Chock

GSpector

08-13-07, 10:08 PM

Wow, a Blackbird :up:

I only have FS9 :yep:

How does it look and fly at Mach 3+?

Chock

08-13-07, 10:14 PM

Check the SR-71 out here, lots of screenshots:

http://www.justflight.com/product.asp?pID=121

It's a very impressive add-on, especially if you want to go across the Atlantic in less than two hours, and it is a hell of a lot easier to fly than the add-on Concorde from the same developer :up:

:D Chock

Camaero

08-13-07, 10:29 PM

That is such an amazing plane. Looks like Just Flight did a nice job on her.... Where is one for FSX?

GSpector

08-14-07, 12:20 AM

Wow, I was very impressed with the lighting effects of the "tiger stripes" coming out the engines. The grey heat resistant tires and chute were a great touch.

I was disapointed that the max speed was only Mach 3.3 but I guess it will do:roll:

It was nice to see 4 models included. I would have liked to have seen a YF-12a with AIM rockets just for fun but I think I will be looking for this item along with the F-117a they have when I am able to get them.

:up:

HunterICX

08-14-07, 03:52 AM

I've seen a Documentary about the blackbird a while ago
really a amazing plane.

I think in combat that baby is hard to track :yep:

Jimbuna

08-14-07, 11:24 AM

I've seen a Documentary about the blackbird a while ago
really a amazing plane.

I think in combat that baby is hard to track :yep:

Some info: :up:

http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/sr71.shtml (http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/sr71.shtml)

Chock

08-14-07, 04:14 PM

The good thing about Just Flight stuff, is that when you buy their products online, you get points on your account with them, and you can spend those points on more stuff from them, even ending up with free stuff if you buy one or two things. Look out for their regular 'sales' too, often on a Monday.

If you are into learning to fly for a PPL, they have a package which works in FS8, FS9 and FSX too, called 'Flying Club'. It has a lot of the typical aircraft you fly when learning for a PPL, so it's a nice one to have if you'd like to familiarise yourself with many of the typical flight school types of aircraft. The aircraft all run great too, with very fast frame rates. Here are the Cessna 152 and PA38 Tomahawk from that package pictured below.

The Flying Club add-on also has a nice utility that comes with it, which will let you put a picture of yourself on the pilot figure, as I have done here, so that's my ugly mug in these two aeroplanes!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Cessna152.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/PA38Tomahawk.jpg

:D Chock

porphy

08-16-07, 04:42 AM

Just a small contribution from EECH 1.9 Looks good!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a126/Porphyr/IMAGE004.jpg

Dowly

08-19-07, 01:38 PM

A quickie
http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07330/SubSimAvs.jpg

Seeadler

08-20-07, 05:02 PM

Hurrican Dean in ActiveSkyX
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1280_6532333664356232.jpg

Oberon

08-20-07, 05:35 PM

Hmmmm :hmm:

P3 Orion...straight to the core!!

You know you want to do it :up:

Great pic by the way Dowly!! :rock: :rock:

HunterICX

08-20-07, 05:39 PM

silly question: do those hurricanes shown in that really show up IN-Game?

Chock

08-21-07, 01:01 AM

yes, the hurricanes are there, FSX has much more realistic weather capabilities

:D Chock

GSpector

08-21-07, 02:18 AM

I'm sure FSX has much better graphics but doesn't FS9 also allow real world weather. I'm sure it does. I'm sure I used it when I had it on my system

If anyone uses FS9, any chance someone could check this out to see what the storm looks like in FS9?

HunterICX

08-21-07, 04:46 AM

yes, the hurricanes are there, FSX has much more realistic weather capabilities

:D Chock

:o I really need to consider a new PC!:lol:

Seeadler

08-21-07, 06:03 AM

yes, the hurricanes are there, FSX has much more realistic weather capabilities
I will make a testflight this evening into the hurricane to see how it's ingame:hmm:

HunterICX

08-21-07, 06:36 AM

yes, the hurricanes are there, FSX has much more realistic weather capabilities
I will make a testflight this evening into the hurricane to see how it's ingame:hmm:

make some screenshots of it :yep:

HunterICX

08-29-07, 07:01 PM

Woohoo...dropped my bombs ontop some AAA guns :o
and flying towards home in formation..no auto pilot no TC. very nice :cool:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2074/b25wy8.jpg
I am the one in the back.

Kratos

08-30-07, 07:17 AM

very nice matey :up: but did you land the mudda ? ;)

HunterICX

08-30-07, 11:22 AM

Ofcourse :) I only had to swirl in circles for 6 times as when I asked to the tower for permission to land they considered Extra safety precautions :lol: and that took some time.

Me:this is Six, permission to land
Ground control:GO AROUND SIX , I REPEAT GO AROUND!
*Six is comming in*
Medic staff and firefighters towards runway 2 AT THE DOUBLE! this is not a training drill!
this is HUNTERICX going to land!
:rotfl:

sqk7744

08-30-07, 06:31 PM

Classic Stabiz!!! - positive rate, gear-up, VNAV

* So who's waiting for you at FSDO, the FAA or USCG ;)?

Chock

09-02-07, 12:46 PM

Two screenshots from a 'Luftwaffe jets' review I'm working on at the moment:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/F-104overwater.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/F-104overwaterwithblur.jpg

:D Chock

Skybird

09-02-07, 12:51 PM

Look look, a flies-straight-like-a-line-Starfighter! Do you fly it or does it fly you? :lol:

Chock

09-02-07, 03:29 PM

That thing has just about the most insane FSX flight model I've ever come across, if it's even anywhere near close to what the real thing was like, then it's no wonder the Starfighter got all those uncomplimentary nicknames, such as 'flying coffin' and 'widowmaker'.

I got it up to 93,000 feet a few minutes ago, but it then went into an unrecoverable flat spin, tried everything to get it out - dropping the gear, dropping the flaps, opening the airbrakes, pumping the elevator, opposite rudder, holding the stick full forward, holding the stick full back, cutting the power, hitting the 'burners ets, etc - nothing worked, and it dropped all the way down to the deck - kaboom!

It's a complete death trap at low level too, with really marginal aileron control, especially with any turbulence around.

Still it's not as bad as the early model Starfighters with their downward-firing ejector seats - I'd love to meet the genius who came up with that one.

I used to think that the 60s and 70s Luftwaffe pilots must have been a bit crap after all the crashes they had with the Starfighter, but flying that one in FSX has made me change my mind!

:D Chock

Skybird

09-02-07, 04:47 PM

A very controversial plane. The German Luftwaffe trained 2000 pilots on the F-104, of which every 20th was killed (116). 916 planes were bought, 296 got lost: that is one third. Reason in Germany were changes in the avionic systems which was a complete package by Grumman and then was tied open again by demands of the German LW, and last but not least for political reasons (namely bragging) more machine were bought in a very short time than the LW could reasonably maintain. Interestingly at the beginning the military advisors and testpilots recommended not to got for the F-104, but to choose for example the Mirage-III or Ligthning (which also crashed quite often, I think). All of these professionals than had to leave their offices, when the "Oberschnösel" Franz-Josef Strauss decided to ignore all advise by the experts and to buy the Starfighter , and more of them as were militarily needed, and could be fully maintained. - The results are known by now. I would rate the history of the F-104G(erman) as a desaster. One third of the planes were lost - although no war took place.

Better take this one: elegance and agility in flight:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7291/snap0012xl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3063/snap0013gt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Chock

09-02-07, 05:39 PM

Although the F-104G does seem like an odd choice by West Germany (which it was in some ways), the Mirage was only theoretical at that time, and they were not to know it was going to be the successful aircraft it subsequently proved to be, plus I think it's kind of hard to see the Germans approving a French plane.

We have to also consider that the Starfighter deal was very much about support for European, and indeed German, indigenous aviation production too. After all, the 'G' in F-104G did actually stand for Germany, as it was (supposedly) specially developed for that market, intended for large-scale production in Germany. As part of the deal to buy and license-produce the F-104G, two consortiums were created, which included Messerschmitt, Dornier, Heinkel, Siebel, Focke-Wulf, plus Dutch firms Aviolanda and Fokker. Other consortiums in European nations also producing the Starfighter were formed for much the same reasons too. and this did help them to stay in business.

Although it was clear that the US were hoping to make inroads into European markets and bolster what they saw as the defensive front line of the Cold War, it's also true that European companies in the consortiums gained considerable technical knowledge and expertise from the deal, and is one of the reasons why later consortiums such as Panavia and Airbus were able to challenge Boeing.

Of course all that is no consolation to the Luftwaffe pilots who died whilst using an aircraft that wasn't really well suited to the low-level nuclear strike role. Nevertheless, it is interesting to note that the Marine wing of German aviation which also used the F-104 did not suffer attritional losses any different from all the other forces which used the Starfighter, the loss rate in the Luftwaffe was very bad compared to other users of the type. It was determined by such Luftwaffe luminaries as Johann 'Macki' Stienhoff and his colleagues, that geographical diffferences aside, much of the reason for the Luftwaffe's problems with the F-104 were down to unsuitable training for the Luftwaffe pilots of the F-104.

However, another factor was that Lockheed would not approve the F-104G to use the Martin Baker ejection seat which the Luftwaffe wanted for it, instead insisting that the (decidedly inferior) Lockheed C-2 ejection seat be used. Coupled with the (then) unreliable performance of the Starfighter's J79 engine, it's not surprising the Luftwaffe had some problems with the F-104G.

Changes they implemented addressed a lot of the problems, but there was little that could be done to combat inherent features of the F-104 which made it unsuitable for Euopean use, such as its inability to withstand long term exposure to the elements, being only really suited to dry US weather in places like Arizona and such.

The US pilots did break a lot of records with the F-104 (speed and altitude among them) but they too lost a lot of pilots on the thing, and when the US tried to use the F-104 for combat in Vietnam, it performed miserably, with huge losses, eventually ending up with it being withrawn and only used by a few ANG units and NASA as an occasional chase plane (which it was actually good at).

Certainly not the best aircraft ever built.

:D Chock

HunterICX

09-02-07, 05:51 PM

Flying with kratos:

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/6884/kratos2kt6.jpg

Kratos

09-03-07, 01:55 PM

Yea!! Hunter its a mad arena.was worried for a few minutes there :lol:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4867/slugfest1nt5.jpg

HunterICX

09-04-07, 06:04 AM

:lol: Comooon Kratos,

Mine's always itching :rotfl:

Kratos

09-04-07, 07:43 AM

:lol: Comooon Kratos,

Mine's always itching :rotfl:

you CAN get cream for it from your G.P. :rotfl:

Chock

09-04-07, 01:08 PM

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalm1.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalm2.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalm3.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalm4.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalm5.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalm6.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalm7.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalm8.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalm9.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalm10.jpg

Dowly

09-04-07, 03:02 PM

Oh god... I just love the Huey... :oops:

Seeadler

09-04-07, 03:04 PM

He 111 over Heligoland
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1280_6362336562376439.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1280_3864313261353431.jpg
(Payware model from Alphasim)

HunterICX

09-05-07, 03:50 AM

Nice pics :up:
keep them comming

Skybird

09-05-07, 06:08 PM

Some random shots from Megahub Frankfurt, while playing around with Traffic 2005 which I just got and installed today. :D

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8712/image1vv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8620/image3xp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7671/image4oh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2646/image6qh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3139/image7xr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4415/image9jr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Skybird

09-05-07, 06:09 PM

Hmpf. Looked far more impressive at 1280x1024.:stare:

Chock

09-05-07, 08:12 PM

Hmpf. Looked far more impressive at 1280x1024

Yup, they always do, but that's the 'interweb' for you.

:D Chock

HunterICX

09-06-07, 03:37 AM

Hmpf. Looked far more impressive at 1280x1024

Yup, they always do, but that's the 'interweb' for you.

:D Chock

Skybird could always upload them on original size and post thumbnails :yep:

Skybird

09-06-07, 04:55 AM

Hmpf. Looked far more impressive at 1280x1024

Yup, they always do, but that's the 'interweb' for you.

:D Chock

Skybird could always upload them on original size and post thumbnails :yep:
Good idea. Why hasn't it been mine?

Next time.

HunterICX

09-06-07, 05:00 AM

Well, they look very good already.

but 1280 x 1024....damn

as I,m at work at the moment...I can hear my PC twisting its motherboard from here....:huh:

everything set on high?

Skybird

09-06-07, 05:34 AM

everything set on high?
Upper third.

Kapitan_Phillips

09-10-07, 03:55 PM

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8984/klmfsxxx0.jpg

HunterICX

09-16-07, 05:02 PM

:cool: breaking a record in the ME262

Mach 1 reached :rock:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1039/mach1bw2.jpg

only stuff start to fly off my plane...lost me Elevators, and something else...ah well :dead:

Kratos

09-16-07, 05:07 PM

Was probably your flying debris that brought me down :p

Dowly

09-17-07, 07:58 AM

Last night, I had the most intense sortie I have ever had. I was planning on making a movie of it... but I am stupid little ferret and didnt save the .trk file!

Normandy, '41. There I was, in my Emil, patrolling over some small airfield with the rest of the guys. :yep: The weather was nice, no clouds and sun shining. :sunny:

After a few uneventfull circles over the airfield I saw three 4 plane lines and lots of scattered dots over them. :huh: I was thinking "Hmm... that looks like an bomber formation. I am still to see a friendly bomber here and they are coming from north too." :hmm: I gave my wing commander the finger and broke off to investigate. :arrgh!:

The dots grew bigger and bigger. As I got close I noticed more scattered dots just behind the line formations. "I'm sure some of them are friendly" I though. :yep:

A minute later I was close enough to identify three separate Blenheim formations and 14 other planes scattered around them... RED NOSE CONES! HURRICANES!!! :o

Needless to say, they all jumped me after I strafed the lead bomber either damaging it badly or killing the pilot as it plunged to it's doom. :smug:

Okie, there I was, hitting the "Anyone, help me!" button as fast as I could and flew towards friendlies. :help:

My Emil withstood close to what felt like 10 minutes of constant fire from the Hurricanes and just as I got to the friendlies, the fuel that was leaking from my bullet ridden wing caught on fire. :damn:

I didnt want to try my luck anymore and bailed out. From the ground I watched as the other Emils hammered the RAF down to the last plane. :rock:

I hitched a ride back to my homefield and soon got back into the air and scored my 5th, 6th & 7th kill (Hurri, Hurri, Blenheim) and became an 'ace'. :up:

Dowly

09-17-07, 11:04 AM

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/EmilInTrouble-1.jpg

Edit: Made some finishing touches. :)

Kratos

09-17-07, 02:04 PM

Always the same matey,when you fly and something really nice happens ((and DOH :damn:!!!)) ''i forgot to switch damn .trk recorder on'' I've done it a few times myself. btw nice capture there :up:

Jimbuna

09-17-07, 02:42 PM

Always the same matey,when you fly and something really nice happens ((and DOH :damn:!!!)) ''i forgot to switch damn .trk recorder on'' I've done it a few times myself. btw nice capture there :up:

Yep....excellent shot Dowly :rock: :up:

XabbaRus

09-17-07, 03:05 PM

Are you talking about online play cos in single player you can save track after the mission.

Kratos

09-17-07, 03:28 PM

Are you talking about online play cos in single player you can save track after the mission.

''well thats something i did not know'' !! I think i'll go back and RTFM :damn:

Chock

09-17-07, 07:28 PM

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/havesomeofthat2.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/havesomeofthat.jpg

:D Chock

Oberon

09-18-07, 05:44 AM

Warthog - Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'!

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/9260/img00002rg3.jpg

HunterICX

09-19-07, 05:38 AM

@Dowly: Nice pic,
but you couldnt leave the 109's , well? :stare: :rotfl:

@chock: Something tells me on that 2nd pic, it wouldnt be a happy fell whoever stand underneath that strike

Dowly

09-19-07, 07:52 AM

@Dowly: Nice pic,
but you couldnt leave the 109's , well? :stare: :rotfl:

Lol, I'm sure you feel better when you hear that the 109 is me (If you look closely, you can make out the skull face). ;) Taken from my current Normandy'41 campaign where I play as the Luftwaffe. :up:

Have few more photos coming, possibly tonight. :rock:

XabbaRus

09-19-07, 01:45 PM

Normandy 41 campaign. Is that one of your own or downloadable from M4T?

Dowly

09-19-07, 01:55 PM

IL2DGEN:up:

www.lowengrin.com

XabbaRus

09-19-07, 02:31 PM

I have that but also the enjoyr patches. To get dgen to work with the enjoyr patches I think I need a slightly different patch from enjoyr but could never figure it out.

Dowly

09-19-07, 03:08 PM

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/UboatUnderAttack.jpg

HunterICX

09-19-07, 03:12 PM

:cool:Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

well 2 things dowly:

1. dont post it in the SH3 section
2. dont show it to penny, I've been told she doesnt like to see uboats been shot up like that :lol:

XabbaRus

09-19-07, 03:24 PM

You have just told me not to do 2 things.

So I will ;)

Oberon

09-19-07, 04:51 PM

Owowowowowowowowowowow!!

:oops:

Jimbuna

09-20-07, 02:29 AM

Pen will be pleased of her Dowlz :rotfl:

HunterICX

09-20-07, 04:38 AM

Pen will be pleased of her Dowlz :rotfl:

I already hear her putting a new conning tower on her Uboat to pack it with extra flaks....I think I stay away from uboats for a while :lol:

Biggles

09-20-07, 09:53 AM

This is off topic, but can anyone give any tips to a good (free) photoshop program?

Jimbuna

09-20-07, 11:25 AM

Yeah...Adobe Photoshop ;)

Chock

09-20-07, 03:10 PM

Try this free one, it has a lot of capabilities:

http://www.getpaint.net/index.html

It's not bad by all accounts, but there is no other photo editing program with all the capabilities of PhotoShop, it is the industry standard.

If you want PhotoShop, then your best bet is to see if you can find a cheap old version off the 'net, sometimes older versions are given away on magazine cover disks (but not that often because even versions back to PhotoShop 4 are still fairly capable). another option is to buy a discounted current version (which you can do if you are a student, or you know someone who is a student who can buy it for you and give 'em the cash).

:D Chock

XabbaRus

09-20-07, 03:27 PM

Gimp is quite good I heard.

Kratos

09-20-07, 05:51 PM

Gimp is a nice little free proggie, all depends what you actually want to do to your images.It's ok for retouching and converting images ,theres an array of plug-ins for the proggie ...it can do more ;)
http://www.gimp.org/about/introduction.html
hope this helps :up:

Chock

09-20-07, 09:09 PM

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Sluggish.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Havesomeofthat-1.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Seemstobeokay.jpg

:D Chock

HunterICX

09-21-07, 03:25 AM

:lol: why all the overwhelming firepower chock?
just to be sure you got all of them down there ;)

Chock

09-21-07, 04:16 AM

You can NEVER have enough cluster bombs.

:D Chock

HunterICX

09-21-07, 04:30 AM

You can NEVER have enough cluster bombs.

:D Chock

I got the same thing with WW2 bombers....I alway think I've could have done more with a extra pair :lol:

I hate it when I drop a line of bombs and the last one just falls in front of the Train station (my favorite target when its busy)

Dowly

09-21-07, 07:35 AM

Not 100% sure but IIRC, either the axis bombsight or the allied one in IL2 points where the LAST bomb will strike. :up:

In the other news, I made a perfect dive bombing with P47 yesterday (Always seem to hit just part of the target, but now the 2 bombs struck straight on target) as I was saving the .trk, the fecking IL2 crashed!! :damn:

NiclDoe

09-21-07, 03:25 PM

Happened to me a few times here and there often a month or two it happens but we have have to deal with it.;)

Dowly

09-21-07, 03:27 PM

I think it's b/c of the IL2DGEN. As the recorded tracks are ½ the time corrupted and sometimes it looks like there was a huge lag.

NiclDoe

09-21-07, 04:12 PM

The world may never know like a tootsie pop.:smug:

Kptlt. Neuerburg

09-23-07, 02:33 PM

This was the only sub I didn't sink. It seems to be a minelayer with snorkel and three twin anti- aircraft guns on the conning towers. They are type VIICs.http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7717/grab0000dt0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://my.imageshack.us/v_images.php)http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3112/grab0001yn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://my.imageshack.us/v_images.php)

Dowly

09-23-07, 02:49 PM

Nope, no schnorkel. That's the periscope. :up: The Schnorkel was positioned on the deck, abit to the bow from the tower.

Kptlt. Neuerburg

09-23-07, 05:30 PM

No there is a snorkel there you just can't see it in those screenshots. I''l get a better shot and you'll see it.

Kptlt. Neuerburg

09-23-07, 05:45 PM

And theres the snorkel right above and to the left of the air intake.http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/5512/snorkelrr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://my.imageshack.us/v_images.php)

Jimbuna

09-24-07, 03:31 AM

The schnorkel is located just forrad of the conning tower on the port casing and does not appear to be raised :hmm:

HunterICX

09-24-07, 03:55 AM

:lol: looking at the last pictures, my guess is that the Uboat hunting season is re-opened!

:smug: I love the smell of a burning Uboat in the morning;)

Biggles

09-24-07, 09:28 AM

:smug: I love the smell of a burning Uboat in the morning;)

I'm sure you're used to it after all your SHIII days out there...who knows how many U-Boats that has been sent down under with you onboard:rotfl: ;)

HunterICX

09-24-07, 09:33 AM

Mmmmm....

in fact I've only been sunk once by an aircraft in SH3 :cool:

Biggles

09-24-07, 04:37 PM

Mmmmm....

in fact I've only been sunk once by an aircraft in SH3 :cool:

You kiddin!? Gotta be a Swordfish then eh?:lol:

NiclDoe

09-25-07, 03:02 PM

:lol: looking at the last pictures, my guess is that the Uboat hunting season is re-opened!

:smug: I love the smell of a burning Uboat in the morning;)

Never say that to Penny. She will kick your arse for that.

Jimbuna

09-25-07, 03:42 PM

:lol: looking at the last pictures, my guess is that the Uboat hunting season is re-opened!

:smug: I love the smell of a burning Uboat in the morning;)

Looks like there is a game afoot my friend :hmm:

Chock

09-25-07, 11:30 PM

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Sandynapalmandwillypete.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Spookylettingrip.jpg

:D Chock

HunterICX

09-26-07, 03:14 AM

:D Nice!

but...that first pic, sorry but you're bit late to celebrate the 4th of july :lol:

Biggles

09-26-07, 03:14 PM

oh, the C-47....lovely plane.

NiclDoe

09-26-07, 07:00 PM

In Il2 i love it when you shoot it becuase the men and crogo eject.:yep:

Jimbuna

09-27-07, 02:59 AM

Is that Puff the magic dragon ? :hmm:

Chock

09-27-07, 11:23 AM

Is that Puff the magic dragon ? :hmm:

Yup, sure is. Otherwise known as the Douglas AC-47 Skytrain, i.e. the military version of the DC-3 fitted with three sideways-firing General Electric 7.62mm miniguns, firing up to 6,000 rounds per minute each, aimed with a gunsight on the pilot's left cockpit window. The AC-47's official callsign was usually 'Spooky', but...

Puff the Magic Dragon was the US ground troop's nickname for it, and became the Vietnamese nickname for it too. It was taken from the 1963 Peter Paul and Mary song of the same title, popular at the time owing to its supposed references to smoking cannabis, and the song's other character 'Jackie Paper', which most people thought was a reference to cigarette papers in a joint, and even though the song's writer denies this, it probably was.

Stupidly unaware of the jokey drug connotation, the USAF encouraged the use of this nickname because they thought the connotations and mythology of Dragons in South East Asian culture night make it more feared by some poorly-educated Vietnamese peasants.

It's bloody hard to aim the guns on the simulated version in that picture, because you control the aim point with the angle of bank, like the real thing. But if you do get the bullets on target, it will pretty much destroy anything on the ground. The aircraft is one that is included in a set of missions from the 'Yankee Air Pirate' add-on for 'Wings Over Vietnam', as is the A1 Skyraider in the other picture.

Not the only aircraft to get the Magic Dragon nickname though:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/MagicdragonA6.jpg

:D Chock

Jimbuna

09-28-07, 03:21 AM

Brings back memories of one of my Australian cousins who knew a guy in the Aussie Army that served over in Nam and got a ride one night in one of those flying arsenals.
Apparently, this one also had a 105mm howitzer fitted :yep:
This guy said they fired it to show him it's effect....and the plane shuddered for a good 5 seconds after it had fired.

Dowly

10-04-07, 07:34 AM

Here's a WIP of my newest composite. P47 in trouble, somewhere, havent decided the location yet. Still needs work on the lightning + needs some smoke and some battle damage.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/Composite%20Photos/WIP_P47.jpg

Added smoke, corrected lighting. (Dont mind the reflection, just testing something)
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/Composite%20Photos/WIP_P472.jpg

Kratos

10-04-07, 08:21 AM

Looking good m8 http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/thumbs-up.gif...stay of that WoE and you might get it finished http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/wink2.gif

Morts

10-04-07, 08:27 AM

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/morty-dk/jabo.jpg
the result of me having a littlebit too much fun with being a Jabo:rotfl:

Dowly

10-04-07, 08:36 AM

Never, in my whole time of playing IL2 have I had that many bullet holes on my windshield. :o

HunterICX

10-04-07, 08:40 AM

Dowly

10-04-07, 08:42 AM

HunterICX

10-04-07, 08:47 AM

Never, in my whole time of playing IL2 have I had that many bullet holes on my windshield. :o
Pfaw, thats nothing

you should have seen my HE111 after beeing shot from all angles
everywhere I looked bullet wholes all around me, most of the gauges where shot up.
Yes, I've had that too. But not in a 109. I've had bulletholes all around me, but not that much in the windshield.

Pfff..he has his gunsight still in place so, no big deal, only a bit more windy in the cockpit :rotfl:
if you add oil splatter and a broken gunsight, you better go back to base :up:

Morts

10-04-07, 09:41 AM

i got the oil splatter later when a guy attacked me on the landing aproach
oil all over and he even managed to shoot of my landing gear:rotfl:
though i made it safely on to the ground:)

Dowly

10-04-07, 02:54 PM

:up:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/Misc/Alone.jpg

Morts

10-04-07, 03:02 PM

nice:up:

Dowly

10-04-07, 03:04 PM

OMG FECKING GOD! I didnt remember the fecking props again! :damn: :damn:

NiclDoe

10-04-07, 03:12 PM

I was just about to say that.

Kratos

10-04-07, 05:42 PM

OMG FECKING GOD! I didnt remember the fecking props again! :damn: :damn: A Quick Illiptical marqee tool and an arial blur might sort it m8 http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/hush.gif

Kratos

10-04-07, 05:44 PM

B.T.W. Cracking pic Dowly :up:

Dowly

10-04-07, 06:09 PM

OMG FECKING GOD! I didnt remember the fecking props again! :damn: :damn: A Quick Illiptical marqee tool and an arial blur might sort it m8 http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/hush.gif

Nah, I make it from real photos. Need the details as propellers usually tend to look like not moving in a photo. ;)

Dowly

10-05-07, 02:42 AM

Props added (Yeh, Krat. I used the radial blur thingy. ;) )
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/Alone.jpg

Kratos

10-05-07, 05:00 AM

Very nice Dowly :up: a like it..:yep:

Jimbuna

10-05-07, 07:28 AM

Coolio...the thingymajig works then ;)

Dowly

10-05-07, 08:03 AM

Coolio...the thingymajig works then ;)

Are you all drunk or something!? :hmm:

Jimbuna

10-05-07, 02:08 PM

Coolio...the thingymajig works then ;)

Are you all drunk or something!? :hmm:

Getting there :()1:

NiclDoe

10-05-07, 02:36 PM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :roll: Jim thats not the best thing to do. Dowly I think I saw a Ferret eject in the background. Was it you? :hmm:

HunterICX

10-05-07, 02:43 PM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :roll: Jim thats not the best thing to do. Dowly I think I saw a Ferret eject in the background. Was it you? :hmm:

no that would be his evil twin brother:88)

NiclDoe

10-05-07, 03:22 PM

Since when does Dowly have a brother Hunter?

Kratos

10-05-07, 03:38 PM

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/astonished.gif Holy S**t Dowly got a twin ...im out of here http://www.mission4today.com/images/smiles/fly.gif

Dowly

10-06-07, 09:54 AM

http://www.mission4today.com/images/smiles/fly.gif

:rotfl: :rotfl:

Jimbuna

10-06-07, 10:13 AM

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/astonished.gif Holy S**t Dowly got a twin ...im out of here http://www.mission4today.com/images/smiles/fly.gif

Possibly yer best one yet :rock: :up:

Biggles

10-14-07, 04:21 PM

This is off topic but....Dowly in the brig?

Again?:shifty:

HunterICX

10-14-07, 05:08 PM

This is off topic but....Dowly in the brig?

Again?:shifty:
Yep,

his behaviour in the Silent hunter section was unnacceptable.
so he is below deck peeling potatos for the following days.

HunterICX

NiclDoe

10-14-07, 08:10 PM

Yep it was the picture on the second page. and i went to to the brig to find Bernard trying to escape with a spoon. it was funny seeing gim trying to dig through.

Chock

10-16-07, 12:26 PM

These are some pics of my buddy, Matt, trying out his close formation flying skills online while we came back from bombing an airfield in North Vietnam in WOV (me in S/N 310, him in S/N 616). He collided with me as we both touched down in formation, but neither of us died, he lost his right wing and I lost my left wing but we both just rolled down the runway with smoke pouring off us LOL!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalmgetsclose4.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalmgetsclose3.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalmgetsclose.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Napalmgetsclose2.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Youcanbemywingman.jpg

:D Chock

Morts

10-16-07, 01:40 PM

what game is that Chock:hmm:

Chock

10-16-07, 02:30 PM

It's Third Wire's Wings Over Vietnam:

https://store.thirdwire.com/store.htm

:D Chock

Steel_Tomb

10-16-07, 04:53 PM

Got some nice piccies from various flights I thought I'd post up here, shame to leave them alone in my F4 folder lol...

"SMILE! AMRAAMS LOVE YOU!"
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/timmy3822/2007-09-15_20_02_31.jpg

Yeah...I know its a bit excessive...but he was REALLY annoying me...
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/timmy3822/2007-09-28_19_59_11.jpg

Say hello to my little friends!
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/timmy3822/2007-08-27_18_07_21.jpg

A few from a mission I did the other day, got some more shiney things for my box for the hell I gave the Koreans. I caught I flight of four IL-78's WITHOUT fighter escort, like taking candy from a baby! http://www.185th.co.uk/forum/images/icon_smile_dead.gif
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/timmy3822/2007-09-16_18_24_58.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/timmy3822/2007-09-16_18_30_19.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/timmy3822/2007-10-11_17_39_04.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/timmy3822/2007-09-16_18_35_04.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/timmy3822/2007-10-11_17_51_53.jpg

Might have a few more good'uns hidden away somewhere so will post them another time.

fatty

10-16-07, 05:35 PM

http://jmgillis.com/f8crusader2.jpg

Tikigod

10-16-07, 08:07 PM

Splashscreen I made from a screenshot I took in FS9 (using FS Genesis Mountain Terrain):

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/Tikigod78/fs9splash.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/Tikigod78/fs9splash2.jpg

Chock

10-16-07, 09:47 PM

This is a concept drawing for a science fiction animation I am producing. The screenshots are of the model nearing completion being tested to see if it looks right in 3D. This is the bad guy's fighter plane, which of course the good guys have to fight in a much worse aircraft.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/TF29.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/TF297.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/TF299.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/TF2910.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/TF293.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/TF292.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/TF291.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/TF296.jpg

Chock

Steel_Tomb

10-17-07, 12:55 PM

kinda reminds me of a swallow with the tail etc. Cool stuff!

Jimbuna

10-17-07, 01:20 PM

An electronic Albatross !! :hmm:

Chock

10-17-07, 02:00 PM

kinda reminds me of a swallow with the tail etc. Cool stuff!

Well, in the animated story, it is referred to as the 'TF-29 Swallow', although it actually is influenced by quite a few creatures.

The way the wings go flat where they sweep back is taked from a plesiosaur, obviously the main sweep of the wings is taken from birds such as swallows, the cockpit and drooping nose is taken from the drooping beaks of raptors and the pointed tail is sort of reminiscent of a sting on a wasp. I wanted it to look much more capable than the crappy aircraft the good guys are in, which is in progress and looks like this:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/Valkyrieandshuttle.jpg

The green jet is the good guy's fighter/bomber, which I named the B-61 Valkyrie, I wanted it to look clunky and ugly in comparison to the bad guy's craft, so it is based on a rather (purposely) badly-designed mixture of the A-10 Thunderbolt II and the SR-71 blackbird, with a bit of the MiG-27 and MiG-21 thrown in.

The other blue craft on the picture is a shuttle craft in which the heroes crash-land at one point in the story.

:D Chock

Oberon

10-17-07, 03:41 PM

Nice craft!
Kinda reminds me of Ace Combat :up:

Chock

10-18-07, 10:31 PM

Here's the good guys airborne in FSX!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/B611.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/B613.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/B612.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/B614.jpg

:D Chock

XabbaRus

10-19-07, 07:25 AM

How does it fly? How is the flight model worked out?

Morts

10-19-07, 07:48 AM

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/morty-dk/dt.jpg:D

Chock

10-19-07, 08:49 AM

DC-3 -one of my favourites, nice picture too!

Re: How does it fly? How is the flight model worked out?

As you probably know, the 3D model and the flight model are two separate entities in Flight Simulator, so the actual physical appearance of the aircraft doesn't affect the flight handling at all. In practical terms this means you could make a model of the Whitehouse and assign a Boeing 747's flight model to it, and it would fly just like a 747. Obviously this is useful in the case of the previously posted 'tail-less' TF-29, (the one that looks like a bird), as it would probably be very unstable in real life and need a fly-by-wire system to keep it under control if such a design was ever really attempted. The flight characteristics are all handled by the 'Aircraft' file in the aeroplane's FS folder, which can be edited in notepad, here's a bit of this particular one:

[airplane_geometry]
wing_area = 245.80
wing_span = 41
wing_root_chord = 8.42
wing_dihedral = 5
wing_incidence = 0.0
wing_twist = 0.0
oswald_efficiency_factor = 0.80
wing_winglets_flag = 0
wing_sweep = 19.5
wing_pos_apex_lon = 9.22
wing_pos_apex_vert = -1.65
htail_area = 29.33
htail_span = 12.30
htail_pos_lon = -11.43
htail_pos_vert = 2.40
htail_incidence = 0.000000
htail_sweep = 23.20
vtail_area = 24.46
vtail_span = 6.44
vtail_sweep = 44
vtail_pos_lon = -8.51
vtail_pos_vert = 0.18
elevator_area = 10.90
aileron_area = 33.08
rudder_area = 19.69
elevator_up_limit = 26.00000
elevator_down_limit = 20.00000
aileron_up_limit = 19.480565
aileron_down_limit = 19.480565
rudder_limit = 23.491270
elevator_trim_limit = 19.480565
spoiler_limit = 60.000000
aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 0.000000
spoiler_handle_available = 1
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 0.000000
min_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0.000000
spoilerons_available = 0
auto_spoiler_available=1
spoiler_extension_time=0.500000
positive_g_limit_flaps_up=8.000000
positive_g_limit_flaps_down=5.927350
negative_g_limit_flaps_up=-4.000000
negative_g_limit_flaps_down=-3.000000

In the case of this, and the TF29 Swallow thingy I previously posted pics of, all I did was to assign the flight model of another pre-existing aircraft to these new ones (I used the flight model of the Flight Replicas Me262). In this case it doesn't really matter what flight model it has, as all I will be doing with these particular models will be taking FRAPS footage of them performing various moves and then editing the shots to look like they are dogfighting one another, although I will have to send the models to a friend and FRAPS some of this online with a buddy flying them alongside for the formation shots, as this will be easier than arsing around editing it to look like that. I may possibly do some of the dogfight sequences like that, in a pre-rehearsed routine, because in the story, the green two seater has to defeat three of the much sleeker 'enemy' planes. This will be right up my friend's street, as he's the one who's flying that A6 Intruder right up my ass in some earlier screenshots I posted on the previous page, and he's a real aerobatics nut (in real life too as it happens).

I will have to edit some of the flight model parameters to get the navigation lights in the right position and maybe alter the wheels geometry to suit them for take off shots, although I hadn't planned to show them taking off, so at this point they don't actually have (or need) any modelled 3D landing gear at all (of course that might change). In actual fact, in the story, the green two seater fighter/bomber pictured above does not take off from a runway, but is launched from a large airborne 'carrier' on the edge of space, which is why it has rockets, rather than jet engines.

:D Chock

XabbaRus

10-19-07, 11:27 AM

Chock

10-19-07, 03:24 PM

Interesting.
For your models to fly though did you input the values that you do know fo r your model, eg wingspan, chord, area etc? Or just use verbatim another models values?

What about X-Plane is that still going?

Nothing so sophisticated, I just picked something reasonably close to the kind of performance I wanted for the FRAPS recordings, and the first one that sprang to mind was the Me262, although thinking about it, I think the roll rate and stuff is probably about right for the big two seater, I'll probably switch the other one so it has a better roll rate and stuff so it looks more agile. As it stands though, they both have the bog standard Me262 flight model, largely justout of expedience, so I could see them in flight with proper lighting, as it's always a bit hard to tell how things will truly look in a 3D design program.

X-Plane is still going as far as I know, and that of course uses the actual shape of the 3D model to determine the flight characteristics via blade element technology and analysing laminar flow etc, which sounds great, but I've found that in practice it doesn't always result in believable flight performance, notably with helicopters, so with both FS and X-Plane, neither is perfect at flight modeling in general.

Personally, I think Condor wipes the floor with every other commercially available PC flight simulator in terms of that, but since most people think gliding is boring (which it isn't) they're unlikely to ever find out about how good a flight simulator Condor is.

:D Chock

Steel_Tomb

10-20-07, 10:48 AM

Hey guys, that "wings over 'nam" sim, looks pretty nice...especially the crusader! What kind of features/complexity is involved? Is it quite simplified or is it leaning more towards falcon?

Chock

10-20-07, 11:23 AM

It's no Falcon in terms of avionics, but radar is there in several modes, and you can lock targets up, however it's not anywhere near as complex as the real deal. Similarly the attack modes are limited too, for example there is no DIANE system on the A6 Intruder, which means good old dive bombing or well timed level bombing is the way to go, although guided weapons such as the Shrike and Walleye missiles do lock stuff up and guide, as do the Sidewinder and Sparrow AAMs. Ironically, the weapons do look very convincing though and the pyrotechnics for them are among the best, looking very much like the real thing and the AAA and SAMs are scarily convincing, with some real 'wall to wall' flak when you go on a mission over Hanoi or Haiphong Harbor. Air to air gunnery is good too, as is the damage modeling, which is remarkably complex for what is essentially a 'lite' survey sim, rather than a study sim.

Also on the plus side, there is a huge array of weaponry, with everything that was ever conceivably slung under a plane in 'Nam there, and it's all usable. It runs well on fairly modest computers too.

Despite its simplicity in comparison to Falcon, there is a great feeling of immersion with it and not all aspects of it are simplified, for example, the carrier operations are probably done more convincingly than in any other simulation (and that includes Janes F/A18), so succesfully 'trapping' on a carrier is hard on full flight realism and feels like an achievement (which of course it is), although you can just end the mission without trying it, or land on autopilot if you don't want to go that hardcore.

The flight models are good, and generally suit whatever plane you are in, although the helicopter flight models in the Yankee Air Pirate add-on mod have been acheived with some programming trickery, as the orignal flight model engine did not support helicopters, so they do handle in a tricky fashion and are not as easily 'flyable' as say, the ones in MS flight simulator.

Most Third Wire sims are limited in their support for online ops, and WOV is no exception to this, other than the fact that, unlike some other TW titles, it will allow you to do co-operative missions as opposed to the more basic 'online dogfight' scenarios more prevalent in other TW titles, although it will do those too. So while it isn't up there with Falcon's superb options in this arena, it's still capable of offering some co-operative online fun with your buddies, and it runs great in that mode too, as evidenced by the screenshots on a previous page of this thread, picturing a couple of A6 Intruders in close formation, where there was no 'rubber banding' from lag, or aircraft jumping about to make life hard.

If you like just ticking a few options boxes and then getting straight into the action with minimal fuss, WOV will do that for you, and also do a more in-depth campaign where you have to manage who flies which plane in your squadron and which aircraft they will take, and there are aspects such as a limit on munitions available and a finite amount of available airframes, so you can make it more realistic if that's your preference. It's in no way as complex or as groovy as Falcon is where the campaigns are concerned (but then again, probably no simulator is or ever will be LOL), but it's still fairly good and historically accurate too, with only the right available aircraft appearing at the specific dates for what was a ten year-long war.

Personally, I like it very much, but that might be because I'm particularly interested in the air combat aspects of the Vietnam war, so it would be hard for me to not like a sim which caters for one of my interests, nevertheless, the modding community for Third Wire stuff is strong and has improved it beyond its original form, and Third wire's support for it's products is right up there with the best, with the developer easily contactable via the forums and willing to consider improvements and suggestions from anybody.

In addition to this, with the 'supermod' that is Yankee Air Pirate, it ramps things up considerably in terms of realism and could fairly be regarded as 'the GWX for Wings Over Vietnam' (although unlike GWX, it aint free, but it isn't that expensive either and can be purchased in small modular chunks, which is an innovative approach to add-ons).

Ultimately, it's up to you whether this kind of thing is for you I suppose, but I suspect you probably would like it. see the other thread on this forum for some more info on it and a couple of links to some videos I made with it.

:D Chock

NiclDoe

10-20-07, 11:32 PM

Cool photos Chock! What plane is that by the way? Its so future! :rock:

Chock

10-20-07, 11:39 PM

Cool photos Chock! What plane is that by the way? Its so future! :rock:

It's one from an animated sci-fi story I am making. In the story it is called the 'B61 Valkyrie', it's a hybrid rocket/jet-powered fighter/bomber that is launched from a huge flying aircraft carrier up in the high atmosphere. It's meant to be a bit crappy in the story, as it is the one the good guys fly, and in the grand tradition of films, the bad guys always have to have cooler-looking stuff! The names of the pilot and gunner stencilled on the side of it: 'Karen Valdez' and 'Carter Franklin', are the two principal characters in the story.

:D Chock

NiclDoe

10-21-07, 01:30 AM

Very cool project your working on and more future i like and hope Bernard is not the pilot of the plane. Also i think that the plane should use cooking oil for fuel becuase of its sweet smell of french fries. i can smell it in the atmosphere then

XabbaRus

10-21-07, 04:27 AM

Looks like I will get WoV.

Is it worth getting strike fighters project 1 too?

fatty

10-21-07, 10:05 AM

Looks like I will get WoV.

Is it worth getting strike fighters project 1 too?

As far as I know SF just has the same engine and same flyable planes as WoV but in a different terrain (desert), and also lacks some features like carrier ops.

Here (http://www.column5.us/sfchart.htm) is a chart comparing the different games and their respective versions. For what it's worth I skipped Strike Fighters and got Wings Over Europe, which includes the A-10, Harrier, and F-15. I also like the campaigns for WOE a lot.

"Snoopy, November Niner Zero, we've got enemy tanks north of our position!"

Chock

10-21-07, 10:44 AM

Looks like I will get WoV.

Is it worth getting strike fighters project 1 too?

You'd probably be better off getting Wings Over Vietnam and seeing if you like it, and if you do, then perhaps consider Wings Over Europe rather than Strike Fighters, as WOE is probably more different and will offer better variety, not to mention the fact that WOE is the more modern of the three titles, and thus a little bit more 'shiny' as far as graphics go.

:D Chock

Steel_Tomb

10-21-07, 11:02 AM

fatty

10-21-07, 11:23 AM

Thanks Chock, is it only avaliable online? Or can I get it in places such as GAME/gamestation? If your up for a flight I might give you a call lol, love carrier traps! Bring on the corsairs! Are there F4's??

Are there F4s, he asks :rotfl:

http://jmgillis.com/img00001.jpg
http://jmgillis.com/img000037.jpg

XabbaRus

10-21-07, 02:11 PM

So if you have WOV adn then get WOE can you port aircraft between the two?

fatty

10-21-07, 02:35 PM

So if you have WOV adn then get WOE can you port aircraft between the two?

I don't know but I assume so. If not you can download add-on aircraft for sure. There is a user-made campaign for Wings Over Vietnam called "Vietnam '84" and as the name implies it is a sort of modern campaign set in Indochina and includes F-14s, F-18s, etc etc.

There is no shortage of add-ons for any of the Third Wire games, whether they be new planes, skins, terrain, or campaigns. I just wrapped up a campaign in Wings Over Europe flying RCAF F-86 Sabres over Germany in 1962.

Kapitan

10-21-07, 04:41 PM

Just submitting this old pic i have from FS2004, this was a routine flight from EGLL london heathrow to KJFK new york kennady airport, en route i flew over manchester to join NAT trach "C" (Charlie) which would put me about 150 miles away from iceland.

Following that id later fly down through the canadian cost into new york where i was stacked for over and hour!

But heres the shot.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i213/British_Airways_Captain/747-2.jpg

Chock

10-21-07, 04:58 PM

Are there F4's??

Here's a couple of screenshots of the WOV and WOE installation folders, note that some of these are add-ons that aren't as standard with it, but it gives you an idea how many Phantoms there are in it, so I think you'll be happy with WOV for a start!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/WOV.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/WOE.jpg

:D Chock

TarJak

11-04-07, 01:02 AM

Blue bird over the white cliffs of Dover:

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/SHOT1578.jpg

HunterICX

11-04-07, 05:07 PM

HunterICX + Vietnam = a new era to crashland planes :lol:

''the Introduction''
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8/wovdt8.jpg

Chock

11-04-07, 08:06 PM

Currently reviewing this for Avsim, thought you might like some of the screenshots. It's about to get a glowing review by the way, as it is very nice indeed, spectacularly good audio and flight model, and lots of really nice touches, such as the animated pilot's goggles sliding up onto his flight helmet when the speed slows down.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/P-401.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/P-402.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/P-403.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/P-404.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/P-405.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/AlanBradbury/P-406.jpg

:D Chock

HunterICX

11-05-07, 05:02 AM

:cool: looks good , chock
doest it flies as good as it looks?

but...dont make ''Kratos'' drool a lot I hate to mob this floor again :lol:
(yep, he's a P40 nutta)

Kratos

11-05-07, 08:30 AM

Yep a sure do like p40's .. they look very good Chock http://www.online-thecatsmeow.com/images/Emoticons/wingwalker.gif

Chock

11-05-07, 11:34 AM

:cool: looks good , chock
doest it flies as good as it looks?

It most certainly does fly very well indeed, I think Shockwave might have done their best one ever with this. The engine sounds (recorded from a real one, which they had unlimited access to) are absolutely brilliant, and it adds tremendously to the feeling of flying it, which is good, because it's got one of those flight models that makes you want to 'buzz the tower' a lot, if you know what I mean.

I've been testing their 'you can fly it by the book' claim, by actually doing that, as I bought a copy of the original P-40 pilot's manual for that exact purpose. And I have to say, they are not lying, you really can.

Seriously recommend giving this one a try, about the only downside is that there aren't many variants included in the package, but that's a minor quibble.

If this, and BoB2 are any indication of what their forthcoming AVG combat flight simulation is going to be like, I imagine we are in for a real treat.

:D Chock