GWX (Grey Wolves eXpansion Mod)

[fitzcarraldo]

I have SH3+GWX3+SHCommander and the following mods:
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/28/modsn.jpg
How can I transfer from Wilhelmshaven to bases in France? The date is 16 July 1940.

A question about your list:

You apply SH5 water after MEP 3...SH5 water isn´t compatible with MEP: the environment of SH5 overwrites the MEP. I think you see only SH5 water. If this mod is the 20 Km version, MEP sensors works OK. But if you use SH5 water 16k or 8k, the sensors.dat don´t work properly.

Can you combine the MEP and SH5 water with goods results? I think this combination is wrong...

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[bybyx]

I have the 20 km version. I enabled it after this post:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=166933

[fitzcarraldo]

I have the 20 km version. I enabled it after this post:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=166933

Yes, I´ve read that thread, but they didn´t arrived to goods results. For a good combination of MEP with SH5 water, it´s needs work on S3D with the environment files.

Now, I´m watching the new environment mod by Hans Witteman, I hope will be the best. Hans is finishing the mod, and - after his commentary - it will be awesome.

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[frau kaleun]

For my new game intallation I've cobbled together a combination of v0.9 (20km) SH5 Water and MEPv3 along with some other files that I was always using either way.

It uses the scene.dat and all the EnvColors and SkyColors .dat files from SH5 Water, along with its Nori00, Nori01 and Senin .tga files.

From MEPv3, it uses the 12 SeaFoam .tga files plus the entire contents of the sensor pack for GWX3.

That seemed to be the best combination of what you'd get if you enabled MEPv3 + patch + GWX sensors pack, then enabled SH5 Water on top of it, but without adding the MEP flat sun fix (as discussed in comet61's thread on that experiment). I'm pretty sure rik007 intended v0.9 to take care of the flat sun issue at least for ATI users, so there's no need for MEP's Flat Sun Fix.

And I threw in the 12 1024x1024 foam .tga files from the Foam mod and the Peak.tga from Sober's 3D waves.

I have not spent much time in the game with this setup enabled, as I've just been starting test careers to get the game loaded and try out different mod combinations - but so far it looks fine. I'll have to see how the sensor settings work on the AI side once I get out on a real patrol.

[fitzcarraldo]

For my new game intallation I've cobbled together a combination of v0.9 (20km) SH5 Water and MEPv3 along with some other files that I was always using either way.

It uses the scene.dat and all the EnvColors and SkyColors .dat files from SH5 Water, along with its Nori00, Nori01 and Senin .tga files.

From MEPv3, it uses the 12 SeaFoam .tga files plus the entire contents of the sensor pack for GWX3.

That seemed to be the best combination of what you'd get if you enabled MEPv3 + patch + GWX sensors pack, then enabled SH5 Water on top of it, but without adding the MEP flat sun fix (as discussed in comet61's thread on that experiment). I'm pretty sure rik007 intended v0.9 to take care of the flat sun issue at least for ATI users, so there's no need for MEP's Flat Sun Fix.

And I threw in the 12 1024x1024 foam .tga files from the Foam mod and the Peak.tga from Sober's 3D waves.

I have not spent much time in the game with this setup enabled, as I've just been starting test careers to get the game loaded and try out different mod combinations - but so far it looks fine. I'll have to see how the sensor settings work on the AI side once I get out on a real patrol.

Great! I´ll try your combo. How looks the water? (any screenshot?). In my SH3 GWX (in LSH3 I use the MEP LSH version), the SH5 water looks dark and with brownish shadows I don´t like. I have an ATI card. The MEP water looks...."aquatic", but the SH5 water looks "plain", without the bright and "aquosity" of MEP.

Many thanks!

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[frau kaleun]

I was using the same version of SH5 Water before reinstalling, and to me it looks exactly the same now given that I've only been putzing around in harbors for 10 minutes or so at a time to make sure everything loads properly and doesn't kill my FPS.

Which it should, since I'm not overwriting any of its files with anything else. Basically I'm just using SH5 Water in its totality along with the sensor pack from MEPv3 (since I'm assuming it was put together specifically for a 20 km environment) plus some .tga files from there and some other sources that I was already using with SH5 by itself anyway.

So I expected no real change in the scenery, the big question for me will be how using the sensor pack from MEP affects things.

[frau kaleun]

Great! I´ll try your combo. How looks the water? (any screenshot)

Try it at your own risk, I haven't been using it except for the last couple of days and just for a few minutes at a time.

Did snap these on the way out of Wilhelmshaven, though:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5361253761_505f6e5638_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/5361253895_6ba79e40b9_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5170/5361254163_fe6ca6ed1c_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5361865526_645a7cc8fd_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5166/5361254395_02503b3307_b.jpg

[fitzcarraldo]

Try it at your own risk, I haven't been using it except for the last couple of days and just for a few minutes at a time.



Frau Kaleun, help, please! I want to take some screenshots in my SH3...I use Fraps for that, but the "print" key go to CTD!!! It´s a problem with the HighRes Fix, I know that, but how to take screenshots with the Resfix???

Many thanks, your images are great, but I don´t like the SH5 water, no, no.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[frau kaleun]

The Res Fix maps the screenshot function to the PrintScreen key, and I never had problems using it with my old setup. On some of those shots above, though, the game froze up on me. The first few times I was able to 'alt+tab' it to the taskbar and then pull it back up and it had unfrozen and gone back to normal but after the last attempt it finally froze completely and I had to pull up Task Manager to shut it down. It may have unfrozen on its own eventually but I was only making a test run and didn't want to wait around to find out.

I hate to think that I can't do screenshots any more, but it looks like whatever causes the CTD issue with the Res Fix is now an issue for me as well. I don't know any way around it because I've never had to find one before.

Environment mods are all a matter of taste and what your system can handle. If yours can run a 20km atmo you may find MEPv3 (the full mod, not the bits I pulled out of it) suits you better. TBH I didn't know how much I liked SH5 water until I was in the game without it, now it feels like something's missing if it's not there. And to be fair, cruising through the harbor on a relatively calm day doesn't really do it justice. The storms at sea are pretty awesome IIRC.

[Robin40]

I was using the same version of SH5 Water before reinstalling, and to me it looks exactly the same now given that I've only been putzing around in harbors for 10 minutes or so at a time to make sure everything loads properly and doesn't kill my FPS.

Which it should, since I'm not overwriting any of its files with anything else. Basically I'm just using SH5 Water in its totality along with the sensor pack from MEPv3 (since I'm assuming it was put together specifically for a 20 km environment) plus some .tga files from there and some other sources that I was already using with SH5 by itself anyway.

So I expected no real change in the scenery, the big question for me will be how using the sensor pack from MEP affects things.

I did it the same

No CTD...sensor pack seems to be working

[fitzcarraldo]

The Res Fix maps the screenshot function to the PrintScreen key, and I never had problems using it with my old setup. On some of those shots above, though, the game froze up on me. The first few times I was able to 'alt+tab' it to the taskbar and then pull it back up and it had unfrozen and gone back to normal but after the last attempt it finally froze completely and I had to pull up Task Manager to shut it down. It may have unfrozen on its own eventually but I was only making a test run and didn't want to wait around to find out.

I hate to think that I can't do screenshots any more, but it looks like whatever causes the CTD issue with the Res Fix is now an issue for me as well. I don't know any way around it because I've never had to find one before.

Environment mods are all a matter of taste and what your system can handle. If yours can run a 20km atmo you may find MEPv3 (the full mod, not the bits I pulled out of it) suits you better. TBH I didn't know how much I liked SH5 water until I was in the game without it, now it feels like something's missing if it's not there. And to be fair, cruising through the harbor on a relatively calm day doesn't really do it justice. The storms at sea are pretty awesome IIRC.

Thanks, Frau Kaleun. Now, I use - with relative success - the screenshot function of Kegety´s ResFix. It works, but I have some CTD in occasions. The FRAPS don´t work.

I have the MEP v3 atmosphere, 20 Km, and looks pretty in my GWX. The sensors work fine, too.

Of course, you can change the environment via SH commander, with the same "KM" (all 8km, all 16 km, all 20 km). For example, SH5 20k water with MEP v3 20k. The sensors are the same.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[Robin40]

April 12, 1940, 13.40...Narvik

British TF (HMS Barham, 7 DD's) proceeding to Narvik, waiting for it at peri depth, estimated speed 20 knts

Fired TII torpedo at 1200 mts distance followed by a salvo of 3 TI torpedoes

Salvo missed

TII torp hit Barham on bow, fire broke out, cannot estimate damage because of crash dive to escape DD's

No free-cam option unchecked, so no further info about Barham

After 10 mins event cam shows Waespite sinking by bow...geezzzz...ONE hit!

Good job, Kaleun!

However, is all this realistic?

[frau kaleun]

However, is all this realistic?

I dunno, but I had almost exactly the same experience in my last career.

Sighted that task force in the fjord heading towards Narvik, waited at periscope depth, fired all four bow tubes at the Warspite. Only one hit and I figured I'd never get a chance to finish her off because of all the DDs... but down she went. I assumed it was a lucky hit that blew up the engines or an ammo hold.

[Jimbuna]

It is quite noticeable that the Warspite is 'relatively easy' to sink......simply put it down to early war beginners luck :DL

[Mustang01]

Gentlemen,

I'm attempting to get the GWX 3.2 Mod running. I've downloaded the Gold Edition from Filefront. I have all eight files and I know that I am supposed to "run" the GWX3.exe file. All the files seem to be generic in nature, is there something special I have to do in order to "run" them? Any help would be appreciated.

Sean

[frau kaleun]

Gentlemen,

I'm attempting to get the GWX 3.2 Mod running. I've downloaded the Gold Edition from Filefront. I have all eight files and I know that I am supposed to "run" the GWX3.exe file. All the files seem to be generic in nature, is there something special I have to do in order to "run" them? Any help would be appreciated.

Sean

All eight files need to be saved to the same directory on your hard drive (you can put them all in the same folder, all on the desktop, whatever).

Doubleclick on the GWX3.exe file. That should start the installation, and the other seven files will be accessed as needed by the installer.

There have been issues in the past with Filefront not appending the .exe file extension to the GWX3.exe file when users download it, which means that when you doubleclick it Windows doesn't know what kind of file it is and asks how you want to open it.

If your copy of the file is missing the extension, just rightclick on it and choose Rename and add the .exe extension to the end of the filename. Then you should be able to doubleclick it like any other .exe and the installation will start. :yeah:

And if privateer were here, he'd tell you to make sure you turn your volume way up when you start the installation. :D

[Jimbuna]

Gentlemen,

I'm attempting to get the GWX 3.2 Mod running. I've downloaded the Gold Edition from Filefront. I have all eight files and I know that I am supposed to "run" the GWX3.exe file. All the files seem to be generic in nature, is there something special I have to do in order to "run" them? Any help would be appreciated.

Sean

There are also detailed installation instructions available from the GWX website (accessable by clicking on my sig).

[Madox58]

The install won't work if your volume is not set to it's loudest.
As Frau said.
:03:

[frau kaleun]

The install won't work if your volume is not set to it's loudest.

You are an evil, evil man.

Must be why I like you. :hmmm: :O:

[Madox58]

One of the things I like the best of the Installer?
The sound track.
:rock:
When I first sent it to be tested I told everyone to turn the volume up
because it was kind of weak.
:har:

But I STILL turn it up everytime I install GWX 3
It just has a certain "Feel" you don't get elsewhere.

If it's your first install?
You will never forget it!

[Exteban]

The Steam version of Silent Hunter 3 is compatible with GWX?

[Robin40]

When are Allied merchants armed?

It's a beauty, although boring, to sink those sitting ducks by shelling

[Sailor Steve]

If it's your first install?
You will never forget it!
Except of course for those of us who were using that file even before there was an SH3, and who know where they got it from. :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

The Steam version of Silent Hunter 3 is compatible with GWX?

Yes

[Jimbuna]

When are Allied merchants armed?

It's a beauty, although boring, to sink those sitting ducks by shelling

Some are armed from day one of the campaign and others as the war progresses.....I wouldn't want to make it boring for you by giving specific dates.

[Robin40]

Some are armed from day one of the campaign and others as the war progresses.....I wouldn't want to make it boring for you by giving specific dates.

thx buddy...what a great game is SH3+GWX:DL

I'm reading the Manual...till now I haven't encounterd any dolphin or whale:wah:

[Jimbuna]

thx buddy...what a great game is SH3+GWX:DL

I'm reading the Manual...till now I haven't encounterd any dolphin or whale:wah:

I can assure you they are out there.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8094/sh32008083120213140.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/sh32008083120213140.jpg/)
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4467/sh32009052218550525.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/sh32009052218550525.jpg/)
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2811/sh32009052218553067.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/sh32009052218553067.jpg/)

[Exteban]

Yes
Thanks!

[Robin40]

My mods

GWX3 Gold
GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V6
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
GWX - Main movie - 'Das Boot'
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - Open Hatch Mod
LifeBoats&Debris_v2_A
M.E.P v3
M.E.P v3-Patch
MEP v3 VisualSensors for gwx3
SH-5 Water for GWX 3.0 V0.9 20 Km Atlantic campaign (default)
FlatSunFix for M.E.P v3
Sobers 3D waves
WideScreen_SH3_V1
Loading Screens Mod 2
MFM-Interim-Beta
MFM-v3-Neutral-Skins-1940
MFM-v3-US+UK_Skins19400201
MFMBeta-EnglishNames
MFM-EnglishNames
SH3MoonMod


After 7 patrols starting 9/1/39 I think that

- escorts are little effective (maybe my attack-evading tactics is at best:DL)
- merchants are unarmed so you can sink them by shelling

Is this realistic?....my tonnage after 7 patrols is 200.000 tons

- no event camera unchecked
- no nav map updating unchecked

[Sailor Steve]

Is this realistic?....my tonnage after 7 patrols is 200.000 tons
Kind of. Only two u-boat kaleuns had over two hundred thousand tons, and they both made sixteen patrols each. On the other hand several came close in seven patrols or less, so it certainly was possible.
http://uboat.net/men/aces/top.htm

On the other hand the game makes it much easier to find and sink ships, and no mod made has changed that.

[Kalte Lanze]

Hi there,

I was looking around for a topic regarding whether or not the mod works with the ImpulseDriven download of the game or not?

I own a copy of the DVD, but don't feel like mucking around with getting it to work with Windows 7, so I went ahead and downloaded it in Impulse. I also hope to get a friend of mine to do so sometime soon as well, so if anyone can confirm or deny if this mod works with the Impulse version of SH3, I'd greatly appreciate it.

[Gargamel]

Hi there,

I was looking around for a topic regarding whether or not the mod works with the ImpulseDriven download of the game or not?

I own a copy of the DVD, but don't feel like mucking around with getting it to work with Windows 7, so I went ahead and downloaded it in Impulse. I also hope to get a friend of mine to do so sometime soon as well, so if anyone can confirm or deny if this mod works with the Impulse version of SH3, I'd greatly appreciate it.

I know it works with the steam version. Just make sure when you install GWX you direct the installer to the correct location of the SH3.exe file.

[Jimbuna]

Hi there,

I was looking around for a topic regarding whether or not the mod works with the ImpulseDriven download of the game or not?

I own a copy of the DVD, but don't feel like mucking around with getting it to work with Windows 7, so I went ahead and downloaded it in Impulse. I also hope to get a friend of mine to do so sometime soon as well, so if anyone can confirm or deny if this mod works with the Impulse version of SH3, I'd greatly appreciate it.

It will work with the Impulse version.

[Kalte Lanze]

Excellent, I tried it last night before the posts and it did work for me, so thank you for your replies :)

[Loltak]

Hello All :)
I have decided to reinstall SH3 GWX3, and as i lost some of my personal modifications, i need to redone them with small improvement.
Concerning the fatigue, i don't want to eliminate it totally but simply lower the effect
I had modified some parameter and i am not very sure of my mod because i did not see so effects:
Lowering [FatigueStep] number for each seamen and rising the negative [Fatigue_coef] for the the "compartment rest" will accelerate the rest and decrease the effect of fatigue. Right?

@+

[Jimbuna]

Excellent, I tried it last night before the posts and it did work for me, so thank you for your replies :)

SINK EM ALL!!

[Jimbuna]

Hello All :)
I have decided to reinstall SH3 GWX3, and as i lost some of my personal modifications, i need to redone them with small improvement.
Concerning the fatigue, i don't want to eliminate it totally but simply lower the effect
I had modified some parameter and i am not very sure of my mod because i did not see so effects:
Lowering [FatigueStep] number for each seamen and rising the negative [Fatigue_coef] for the the "compartment rest" will accelerate the rest and decrease the effect of fatigue. Right?

@+

I couldn't answer that one for sure because I use 'no fatigue'...sorry.

[Loltak]

Oki np ;)
Seen the decreasing of the effect of the fatigue i put each installation, it will probably finish by a no-fatigue modd :lol:

[Jimbuna]

Oki np ;)
Seen the decreasing of the effect of the fatigue i put each installation, it will probably finish by a no-fatigue modd :lol:

Way to go http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Kalte Lanze]

Hmm, I actually am having some random/odd issues all of a sudden.

Never had these problems before on XP 64-bit, running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit now and this is essentially what is happening.

I am receiving random crashes/game lockups, usually when I surface and try to auto position crew for the situation. It's only happening on my second career, starting in 1940 in the 2nd Flotilla with an IXB class U-boat.

The first time I noticed it happen, I was making my way to Greenland to resupply, found a British destroyer escorting two Auxiliary Cruisers, I torpedoed the middle cruiser and dived to 80 meters. I made my escape and as soon as I surfaced I tried to set up my crew with the auto button for surface cruise and the game froze.

I restarted the same career since I forgot to save any games, made plenty of saves this time. Went all the way up to Portland, sent two torpedo into the harbor, sank a freighter, made a desperate escape, then came in contact with an Empire-type Freighter, wasn't going to pass that up. Torpedoed it 3 times and it was still afloat, so I surfaced to finish it off, continued on my merry way before running into a large tugboat. I dove again in order to sneak up on it only to surface when I got closer to take it out with my deck gun. Problem was, the game crashed to desktop when I tried positioning my men on the deck gun. I went back to reload my saves and none of them are there, only a "phantom" save (it's not visible but is selected by default), saying I am dead.

I didn't die in that career, heck, I barely started. I never had these problems in my first career in the 2nd Flotilla in 1939, nor did I have these problems when I was on XP. Anyone have any possible solution?

[HW3]

That is a old problem with the auto positioning buttons that was never fixed by the developers in their patches. Just do not use them is the best advice I can give you.

[Kalte Lanze]

Or save before using them? :P It seems to be specific to something I am doing in the second career though, which is unique in my opinion.

[Jimbuna]

The problem has been around since day 1 of SH3 and on all manner of machines and OS.

[Kalte Lanze]

Very strange that it only affects me now, however.

[frau kaleun]

I used to always use those buttons for moving crew around, and I never had any problems either.

Then I started reading about CTDs from using them and got spooked and haven't used them since.

I don't do a lot of crew rearranging in-game anyway unless I'm ordering the guns manned or assigning people to the repair team, in which case I just double-click the appropriate station to get people there.

[Jimbuna]

Very strange that it only affects me now, however.

It is an intermittent fault and can come and go without any logic pattern....believe me.

[frau kaleun]

It is an intermittent fault and can come and go without any logic pattern....believe me.

And that's why I stopped using those buttons. :yep: No way to know if it's going to bite you in the bum or not, each and every time.

It's those random "bugs" that are the real buzzkills, because you just never know what bizarre, unpredictable combo of factors is going to trigger a problem. Aside from the fact that it will almost always be triggered at the most inconvenient, pull-your-hair-out moment possible. :wah:

[HW3]

It's those random "bugs" that are the real buzzkills, because you just never know what bizarre, unpredictable combo of factors is going to trigger a problem. Aside from the fact that it will almost always be triggered at the most inconvenient, pull-your-hair-out moment possible.

Amen to that.:yep:

[Jimbuna]

And that's why I stopped using those buttons. :yep: No way to know if it's going to bite you in the bum or not, each and every time.

It's those random "bugs" that are the real buzzkills, because you just never know what bizarre, unpredictable combo of factors is going to trigger a problem. Aside from the fact that it will almost always be triggered at the most inconvenient, pull-your-hair-out moment possible. :wah:

But only if you have hair :DL

[g8rk0k]

I was touring the Eastern Med when war breaks out w/ Soviets. Finished my patrol there, decided to go to Constanza for some Black Sea action (I'm in a type 7b out of Lorient, I was putting in for ammo/fuel at Cadiz, sinking anything that went in or out that end of the strait of Gibraltar. Later went into Med and worked Eastward.) Went up the Bosphorous and slammed into a net, or more accurately over it since I ended up on top of it due to a swell in the sea. Barely survived, repaired, continued to Constanza. Ended patrol. New patrol, sub stuck in dock. Scratched my head, loaded at a point before entering Constanza, went to Warna. Ended patrol. New patrol has my sub on land rolling onto it's side...

SH3 Commander has a start at sea option but checking it seems to make no difference. Maybe I'm just not clear on how the Black Sea operations are supposed to work. I did install the Merged Campaign mod of GWX before starting this new patrol that has me starting on the beach...

Was hoping someone could please give me a heads up on what's going on.

[Vannevar]

Just starting a new career after a few months doing other things, and re-installed from fresh with a standard GWX3 and MFM setup, with just a few eye candy mods (port people, viz mines etc) on top.

Everything seemed to be running fine till I was tracking down a Merchantman in poor visibility (low winds) and decided to duck down for a listen. Hydrophone seemed to indicate that he was breaking up and sinking.

So, I closed in to confirm, and low 'n' behold he is chugging along merrily at 6 kts or so and definately not sinking. However, zooming in using free camera, I can hear the creaking but no engine/prop noise!

Now, a rustbucket tramp it may have been, but nothing needs THAT much oil, surely..

Joking aside, Im looking to try to repair rather than do the full reinstall on Win 7, so if anyone has come across the sinking sfx being called instead of the usual engine noises anywhere before, I'd greatly appreciate a pointer.

Cheers all,

Van

[torpedobait]

I haven't see that one, but in case you hadn't seen it elsewhere, be sure that when you installed the fresh SHIII you put it in a directory other than one of the "Program FIles" directory. I suggest you use something like:
C:\Games\Ubisoft...
It doesn't like to run properly from the default directory, and who knows if that could cause something like you are seeing. Better to be safe, even if you have to reload everything.

[Vannevar]

Already covered it, stowed away in c:\Games\SH3\..
Thanks for the response though, much apreciated.

Only seems to be the merchants, the ASW trawler and his two MTB friends that gave me hell in shallow water last night certainly sounded in fine voice.

:)

Van

[Madox58]

Are all Merchants doing this?
Where are you hunting this Merchant?
You don't hear some Morse Code do you?

[Vannevar]

Hi Privateer.

The incidents have all been up at the top end of the irish sea, in the deep (ish) water channel that runs through the border between AM61 and AM64.

However, its first patrol (Oct 2nd 1940) and they were the first encounters, so it may happen elsewhere.

I dont recall hearing any Morse, but will load up now and have a listen to the next Medium merchant I find then confirm.

Update: Next encounter was a medium convoy in AM61. (Happy days!) I had a quick fly round on the free cam, and the escorts, tankers, aux cruiser and some of the merchants sound fine. Then I got to this one. No engine noise, just the sinking noises instead.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dom.ford/Med_Merch.jpg

Just getting into position on the convoy now and I'll ID it properly, but at first glance its smaller than the previous ship that was having the same issue.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dom.ford/Med_Merch_ID.jpg

Thats the one.

Cheers

Van

[Vannevar]

Realised I had saved literally a couple of hours gametime before encountering that convoy, so exited, reloaded and re-encountered.

Different convoy makeup (No Aux cruiser, more can dropping escorts, different positioning/subclass of merchants.)

However, I found another sounding the same. Still a Medium Merchant class but a different unit. Different position within the convoy.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dom.ford/Med_Merch_2.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dom.ford/Med_Merch_2_ID.jpg

:hmmm:

Van

[Madox58]

Those all appear to be MFM Units.
So there's a problem with it is my thinking at the moment.
:hmmm:

You have no other Mods enabled correct?

[Vannevar]

Running: (In order, ignoring eye-candy only)

GWX 3
Whh & StNaz V6
MFM 3.2
Lifeboat & Debris v4

On:
Win7 64 Pro,

In:
c:/Games/SH3/...

Easy to check if it is MFM I guess as I've just reached port again.

Van

[Madox58]

By complete accident I was able to re-create this problem.

I assigned a Unit as a Docked Ship,
I assigned it a speed of 10 knots,
I set the place on water in the sim to 00 or false.
In the Test Mission I set it's depth at -15 meters.

The ship moved on the surface,
It was wakes and such,
It's props do not turn,
and it plays that annoying sinking ship sound!

[Sailor Steve]

Those all appear to be MFM Units.
So there's a problem with it is my thinking at the moment.
:hmmm:
The first is M37B, the second is M39B. Yes, both MFM ships.

[Vannevar]

By complete accident I was able to re-create this problem.

So I am not going quite so mad after all!
:doh:

[frau kaleun]

So, for the rest of us using MFM who haven't encountered this yet - is it something that needs to be corrected in the existing files for those two ship classes?

[Vannevar]

Might not be just those two, they were just two I found on that encounter, and I havent had the chance to see how many more I can find.

I have a feeling though, call it a programmers hunch, that the issue wont be with either the MFM nor GWX, but on how the two are combining in these particular circumstances, which I thought may have just been particular to my win7 install.

I was hoping it would be a simple fix like "Ah, you just need to copy this sound file into these locations as its got corrupted", but Privateer being able to recreate it via a test setup seems to sink that one.

[gi_dan2987]

So I'm curious as to why renown levels in SH3 with GWX3 seem to be much lower than in stock SH3, when the original renown values for better subs and upgrades are the same as in stock SH3? I mean, are you just supposed to sink more and/or bigger, more important ships? I've been on God knows how many patrols and I can't seem to find a nice fat BB or large tanker to put to the bottom of the briny deep. I keep picking off tramp steamers and small cargoes, making piddly for renown. I made it to 1500 renown once, then put a damn neutral passenger ship to the bottom :damn: because I shot blind and at night using the hydrophone triangulation method. Any suggestions? I would really like to get that XXI, if I make it that long :o

Cheers! :salute:

[frau kaleun]

Under "Revisions to the Renown System" in the GWX manual it mentions that renown for reaching your patrol grid and staying there 24 hours as ordered has been removed from the game. (The renown for returning all the way to base never worked, so its value was also changed to '0' with no effect on gameplay.)

IIRC it also increases the renown required for some medals.

Many of the changes GWX makes to the game are there to make it more realistic, which usually means more difficult in many respects.

You can increase your starting renown by passing one of the Academy tests, the Navigation one is easy and passing it will give you a bit of a leg up where renown is concerned.

Other renown related settings can be changed by opening the basic.cfg in Notepad and editing the data there. In the lines

[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=0
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=0
CompletedPatrol=0
NEUTRAL=-1
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10
WrongShipSunk=-5000
FirstRankRenown=100
SecondRankRenown=350
EndCampaign=-5000

you can add renown rewards for reaching your grid and staying 24 hours by changing the '0' in the first two lines to whatever you like.

I checked a few of the GWX renown values for ships against the values in the stock game's data\Sea files, there doesn't appear to be any difference in the ones I looked at.

As far as not being able to find any juicy targets - that could be bad luck, but GWX does strive to be more realistic, and in RL targets (especially the juicy ones) were few and far between. Many u-boats went out on patrol and came home after several weeks without having sunk anything or even caught sight of an enemy target.

Your best bet for finding more targets is to check the pull down SH3 map when you're at the Navigation station and look at the location of the main shipping lanes. Park yourself along one of those and you'll have better luck... for early in the war I recommend the Western Approaches to England, where ships must pass either to the north or south of Ireland and then into the Irish Sea to gain access to the western UK ports. Ships must eventually pass through those waters to reach their destination, and geography becomes your ally.

[King_Zog]

So I'm curious as to why renown levels in SH3 with GWX3 seem to be much lower than in stock SH3, when the original renown values for better subs and upgrades are the same as in stock SH3? I mean, are you just supposed to sink more and/or bigger, more important ships? I've been on God knows how many patrols and I can't seem to find a nice fat BB or large tanker to put to the bottom of the briny deep. I keep picking off tramp steamers and small cargoes, making piddly for renown. I made it to 1500 renown once, then put a damn neutral passenger ship to the bottom :damn: because I shot blind and at night using the hydrophone triangulation method. Any suggestions? I would really like to get that XXI, if I make it that long :o

Cheers! :salute:

If you can find and sink the larger merchant vessels then you won't ever be short of renown. The chances of finding a good target is not purely random as some locations seem to be consistently better for hunting then others...

I might be just lucky but I always tend to find lone large merchant vessels when I'm patrolling just north of the Shetland Islands (Lerwick) which is one of my favourite spots if I'm sailing a type II.

If you have a larger boat like a VIIB then try the North Atlantic and go for convoys. A convoy will generally consist of a good mix of small and large ships and if you are lucky you may find a capital ship sailing with them. So far in my early war experience, patrolling just north of Rockall Bank and the BE30 grids seem to be good spots for intercepting convoys.

Also it is a good idea to refer to the merchant traffic route map for more hunting spots.

And be aware that the amount of renown you'll receive relates directly to your difficulty settings. So (if you are not doing this already) playing with map contacts off, manual targeting and realistic sensors etc can potentially yield you much more for each sinking.

Hope this helps...

[Madox58]

So, for the rest of us using MFM who haven't encountered this yet - is it something that needs to be corrected in the existing files for those two ship classes?
I have no idea at this time.
I was working on something completely different with a stock Unit when it started palying the sinking sounds!
That rang the bell about the issue I responded to.
I did several tests then.

What I found in my tests was this,
IF the Unit is not set to put on water in the sim AND has a negative depth in the Missions stuff?
It will play that sound.
IF the Unit is not set to put on water in the sim?
It's props DON'T SPIN, but it will move and show wakes and such.

I didn't watch it long enuff to see if it ever did sink.
But it sounded like it would scare everyone into Life Boats!

[frau kaleun]

I have no idea at this time.
I was working on something completely different with a stock Unit when it started palying the sinking sounds!
That rang the bell about the issue I responded to.
I did several tests then.

What I found in my tests was this,
IF the Unit is not set to put on water in the sim AND has a negative depth in the Missions stuff?
It will play that sound.
IF the Unit is not set to put on water in the sim?
It's props DON'T SPIN, but it will move and show wakes and such.

I didn't watch it long enuff to see if it ever did sink.
But it sounded like it would scare everyone into Life Boats!

So it's more like something is telling the game that a ship meets the "requirements" for triggering the sinking sound sfx, even though something else is telling it that the ship is actually still chugging along on the surface and therefore not sinking. :hmmm:

I say ':hmmm:' as though I actually know enough to think this one through. :doh: :haha:

[Madox58]

I would first examine the files of the identified Units.
Looking closely at the Put on Water setting and The draught for both Surfaced and Submurged.

If they are correct?
There's a BoogyMan in the Wood Pile somewhere!

[frau kaleun]

I would first examine the files of the identified Units.
Looking closely at the Put on Water setting and The draught for both Surfaced and Submurged.

If they are correct?
There's a BoogyMan in the Wood Pile somewhere!

This is from the .sim files in data\Sea\**** under unit_Ship, correct?

For both the ships, M37B and M39B (as IDed by Sailor Steve upthread):

put_on_water=True
Surfaced, draught=9.3
Submerged, draught=11.0

[Madox58]

Those appear to be correct as far as the Game is concerned.
Even if in a Mission or a scripted Campaign file as a negative height?
They should not play the sinking effect.
For the most part,
A Ship scripted at a negative value will ignore the value and just run surfaced as normal.

This is easy to test in a single Mission.
Pick a Ship. Any Ship.
NO! NOT THAT ONE!
:haha:
Script it at -15 for height at a speed of say 10 knots.
Then look at it in Game.

[Salvadoreno]

The downloads on the main page seem to be not working. Both of them. I went to greywolves.com and tried both GWX 3.0 gold download links but they do not work.

[frau kaleun]

The downloads on the main page seem to be not working. Both of them. I went to greywolves.com and tried both GWX 3.0 gold download links but they do not work.

http://www.gamefront.com/files/user/JimbunaGWX2/

You will need to download all 7 GWX3 .bin files plus the GWX3.exe file (unless you use torrent to get the full version in one download).

Save them all to the same location on your hard drive. When finished downloading, double-click on the .exe file to begin the installation.

GWX must be installed over a clean, unmodded installation of SH3 v1.4.

If you use SH3 Commander you will also need the config files for Commander + GWX3, get the self-installer called GWX3_CFG_for_SH3Commanders.exe also at the link noted above.

[Jimbuna]

The downloads on the main page seem to be not working. Both of them. I went to greywolves.com and tried both GWX 3.0 gold download links but they do not work.

The link fk has posted to my FF account are all working fine...good luck.

[Salvadoreno]

thanks boys!

[Gargamel]

thanks boys!

*snicker*

Watch out... FK don't take kindly to that......

[frau kaleun]

*snicker*

Watch out... FK don't take kindly to that......

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Willis?

It's a well known fact that there are no grrrls on the intertoobz. :O:

[Jimbuna]

thanks boys!

SINK EM ALL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Gargamel]

SINK EM ALL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

I'm starting to think that bit of advice is kinda counter intuitive, and downright evil and sisyphian.

As has been mentioned in other threads, many times, ships are not removed from the game. So if we sink them all, we're just gonna encounter them again, and again, and again.

Screw it, I'm staying on the beach at the bar.

[Fish In The Water]

Screw it, I'm staying on the beach at the bar.

Sounds like a plan...

Just so long as they don't serve drinks with little umbrellas in 'em! :03:

[irish1958]

I'm starting to think that bit of advice is kinda counter intuitive, and downright evil and sisyphian.

As has been mentioned in other threads, many times, ships are not removed from the game. So if we sink them all, we're just gonna encounter them again, and again, and again.

Screw it, I'm staying on the beach at the bar.
"Life is a cabaret, my friend; life is a cabaret"

[MerchantMarine1982]

I have the 1.4 version of sh3 installed on the laptop with windows 7, 64 bit...i downloaded the gwx 3.0 torrent and now i have a bunch of files with nothing to tell me what to do with them... also if anyone can help me out with sh4, i have that installed too...the gold edition of that, where I would like to install the blackwolf and Titan boats...

Grey wolves mod and the sh3 commander are what I'm trying to get at as well as some other mods. sh3 runs well on this computer, and I like the challenge of manually aiming my torpedos but i need the mods for immersion in sh3 so if anyone can help me i thank you in advance. i live out in the deep hills n such and only bring the laptop to the library which offers me free wifi, so I get online every so often.

PS. running out of fuel 432km from base sucks...can someone send out a tug?

[Fubar2Niner]

I have the 1.4 version of sh3 installed on the laptop with windows 7, 64 bit...i downloaded the gwx 3.0 torrent and now i have a bunch of files with nothing to tell me what to do with them... also if anyone can help me out with sh4, i have that installed too...the gold edition of that, where I would like to install the blackwolf and Titan boats...

Grey wolves mod and the sh3 commander are what I'm trying to get at as well as some other mods. sh3 runs well on this computer, and I like the challenge of manually aiming my torpedos but i need the mods for immersion in sh3 so if anyone can help me i thank you in advance. i live out in the deep hills n such and only bring the laptop to the library which offers me free wifi, so I get online every so often.

PS. running out of fuel 432km from base sucks...can someone send out a tug?

Hi mate

If you have several .bin files and a .exe file then all is good ensure they are all in the same dir (folder) and that you have a clean install of sh3 patched to 1.4 then simply hit the .exe (the file with the paw print).

Hope all goes well.

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Sailor Steve]

I have the 1.4 version of sh3 installed on the laptop with windows 7, 64 bit...i downloaded the gwx 3.0 torrent and now i have a bunch of files with nothing to tell me what to do with them... also if anyone can help me out with sh4, i have that installed too...the gold edition of that, where I would like to install the blackwolf and Titan boats...
As I understand it you need to put all seven files in one folder, then just double-click File 1. If nothing happens, put the cursor over File one and see what it says. If it only says 'GWX' you need to change the name to 'GWX.exe' and try again. It will then install itself.

Grey wolves mod and the sh3 commander are what I'm trying to get at as well as some other mods. sh3 runs well on this computer, and I like the challenge of manually aiming my torpedos but i need the mods for immersion in sh3 so if anyone can help me i thank you in advance. i live out in the deep hills n such and only bring the laptop to the library which offers me free wifi, so I get online every so often.
There are many folks here who will gladly put them on disc and mail them to you, myself included.

PS. running out of fuel 432km from base sucks...can someone send out a tug?
Are you playing at 100% Realism? If not, simply his escape and select 'Return To Port'. You'll be home instantly.

[Wreford-Brown]

PS. running out of fuel 432km from base sucks...can someone send out a tug?

There's a little fuel economy mod that might help you out in the future at: http://www.mediafire.com/?mc1nmyyzbzm

[Chubster]

Im not having much like with my SH3...

My latest problem being that I have downloaded all the files twice now and i keep getting corrupted file messages when trying to install.

Where can i get a 100% clean copy ??

[Chubster]

OK just downloaded Jimbuna's ones and all is OK....well looking good so far.

Now I have just got to settle my nerves and stop the dogs barking at the telly. (I had my marantz amp turned up at time of install :nope: :))

[Jimbuna]

Enjoy your GWXperience :sunny:

[Gargamel]

There's a little fuel economy mod that might help you out in the future at: http://www.mediafire.com/?mc1nmyyzbzm

One of the must have mods IMO.

[Sailor Steve]

A cheat IMO. I keep an eye on the gauges and never run out. :O:

[Jimbuna]

Simpler to come to the surface, pray to whoever and watch your batteries recharge as if by divine intervention http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/whistle.gif

[Fish In The Water]

^^^ Hmmm... :hmmm:

Batteries charging whilst the diesels have no petrol...

Now if that ain't magic, kindly explain to me what is?

[Sailor Steve]

Now if that ain't magic, kindly explain to me what is?
Hitting the magic button and being home in five seconds. :D

[Fish In The Water]

Hitting the magic button and being home in five seconds. :D

True that...

Can't say I care much for the long voyage home, although - a magic carpet ride might be a bit more realistic. ;)

[Jimbuna]

True that...

Can't say I care much for the long voyage home, although - a magic carpet ride might be a bit more realistic. ;)

http://www.animationplayhouse.com/aaarabian.gif

Consider it done http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/whistle.gif

[Fish In The Water]

http://www.animationplayhouse.com/aaarabian.gif

Consider it done http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/whistle.gif

:haha: Thanks for the ride, appreciate it! :haha:

[BRNR]

I've just discovered the grey wolves mod for SHII. I owned SHIII originally, but with the recent deal on STEAM for those that pre order IL2 I added SHIII to my steam library.

Is there a way to go back and forth between original game and modded game? Some of my friends are not running mods but we play online. It may be further complicated by it running from STEAM?

I've run the mod, and it runs fine. I made a backup of my original STEAM install and copied it back and forth to make it work.

[Bakkels]

Here's a link to a mod that allows you to play multiple versions of your Sh3. I never used it myself yet, so I don't know if there will be a problem if you have the Steam version. Maybe someone else can help you there, but here's the link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ydmkzqeonyn
Good luck. :salute:

[frau kaleun]

It's my understanding that with the Steam version you can only have one working, playable installation of the game at a time, so MultiSH3 would be of no use. :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

:haha: Thanks for the ride, appreciate it! :haha:


http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3464/thgenie9hyoj8.gif

I've just discovered the grey wolves mod for SHII. I owned SHIII originally, but with the recent deal on STEAM for those that pre order IL2 I added SHIII to my steam library.

Is there a way to go back and forth between original game and modded game? Some of my friends are not running mods but we play online. It may be further complicated by it running from STEAM?

I've run the mod, and it runs fine. I made a backup of my original STEAM install and copied it back and forth to make it work.

If you want another install you will need to use a different drive as far as Steam is concerned....and preferably a non Steam secondary version to avoid conflicts.

[Chubster]

When loading my career the splash screen says GWX Orders...Blah blah blah 1st and 2nd flotillas are advised to do a 5 day shakedown patrol then dock at home port...

When Game starts my orders are to patrol grid "whatever".....which am I supposed to do ?

[frau kaleun]

When loading my career the splash screen says GWX Orders...Blah blah blah 1st and 2nd flotillas are advised to do a 5 day shakedown patrol then dock at home port...

When Game starts my orders are to patrol grid "whatever".....which am I supposed to do ?

GWX sends you out on a short shakedown cruise for experience before you get thrown into the real deal. Are you starting in August 1939? I'm not sure if it does that if you start your career when the war is already on.

The war doesn't start until Sept 1, and then only with Poland - not with England and France until Sept. 3, so if you are starting in August '39 there is no one to shoot at anyway because there's no war and everyone is still neutral.

If you are starting from Konigsberg, you'll have orders to do "target practice" on some ships that are conveniently scattered around nearby, and you'll lose renown for it (because the game considers them all neutral still) but GWX will have given you extra renown if you start from that flotilla to make up for it. (But stay away from any armed units - even your own - for 24 hours after you do any shooting, otherwise they'll fire on you because shooting at people when there's no war on makes you a rogue kaleun and they'll be after your hide!)

If you start from somewhere else in August 1939, just do your short shakedown patrol and return to base and then start a second patrol, which should put you out at sea closer to the start of the war.

GWX removes the renown reward for going to your assigned grid and doing the "required" 24 patrol there, so the only reason to follow those particular orders is because you want to for the sake of realism.

[BRNR]

Here is what I did with the steam version.

I went to the steam apps folder and made a copy of the shIII game folder. I renamed that folder shIII GWX. I had two exact games folders now. I added the mod to the shIII GWX folder.

This left me with a vanilla install of SHIII and another install of SHIII with GWX. I then went to my steam library, and added a non steam game link and added the location of the SHIII GWX install as the new game. I renamed it in steam so when it pops up it says Silent Hunter III with GWX 3.0.

So after testing both installs, all works well.

MY QUESTION IS, how does this effect career files? Theres just the SHIII folder in my documents. I assume I might have to back that up.

[Gargamel]

Here is what I did with the steam version.

I went to the steam apps folder and made a copy of the shIII game folder. I renamed that folder shIII GWX. I had two exact games folders now. I added the mod to the shIII GWX folder.

This left me with a vanilla install of SHIII and another install of SHIII with GWX. I then went to my steam library, and added a non steam game link and added the location of the SHIII GWX install as the new game. I renamed it in steam so when it pops up it says Silent Hunter III with GWX 3.0.

So after testing both installs, all works well.

MY QUESTION IS, how does this effect career files? Theres just the SHIII folder in my documents. I assume I might have to back that up.

Excellent work! This may allow me to try out other super mods....

Make a backup of each SH3 folder in the mydocuments. You can swap them out as needed, but make sure you get the right folder with the right app, as they will both read the same folder and it may cause conflicts. But the careers folder is "hot-swappable" i believe, as I have just saved that folder as a backup and swapped it into new installs.

[Jimbuna]

Here is what I did with the steam version.

I went to the steam apps folder and made a copy of the shIII game folder. I renamed that folder shIII GWX. I had two exact games folders now. I added the mod to the shIII GWX folder.

This left me with a vanilla install of SHIII and another install of SHIII with GWX. I then went to my steam library, and added a non steam game link and added the location of the SHIII GWX install as the new game. I renamed it in steam so when it pops up it says Silent Hunter III with GWX 3.0.

So after testing both installs, all works well.

MY QUESTION IS, how does this effect career files? Theres just the SHIII folder in my documents. I assume I might have to back that up.

Rename each one to individually correspond with the installation the saves are from.

[Chubster]

Thanks again frau kaleun...your becoming my very own guardian angel :)

[frau kaleun]

Thanks again frau kaleun...your becoming my very own guardian angel :)

Hmm... usually I'm more like the devil on the other shoulder, but whatever. :O: :sunny:

[Sailor Steve]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Ang.jpg

[Jimbuna]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/ranks/spirit_of_the_wolfav.jpg

:O:

[Sailor Steve]

When Game starts my orders are to patrol grid "whatever".....which am I supposed to do ?
What I do is a quick shake-down, which consists of a quick trip around the harbor. next I use Commander to set the Days In Port to 18. My next patrol starts on August 19, which is when fourteen u-boats were sent to the North Atlantic and told to wait. That way I get to make one free trip through the Channel and am in position on September 3. :D

Afterwards of course I reset Commander's Days In Base to 'Random'.

[Fish In The Water]

What I do is a quick shake-down, which consists of a quick trip around the harbor. next I use Commander to set the Days In Port to 18. My next patrol starts on August 19, which is when fourteen u-boats were sent to the North Atlantic and told to wait. That way I get to make one free trip through the Channel and am in position on September 3. :D

Very sneaky...

Good way to jump the gun and put yourself in the right place at the right time. Might give this a whirl instead of the usual race for the straits before the big declaration. :DL

[Sailor Steve]

Very sneaky...

Good way to jump the gun and put yourself in the right place at the right time. Might give this a whirl instead of the usual race for the straits before the big declaration. :DL
Sneaky? Well, since there were a bunch of boats on station I don't see why mine shouldn't be one. Then again I didn't see much traffic, and came home with four ships total.

On the other hand I only did that with my 2nd Flot boat. My 1st Flot Type II didn't make her first voyage until September 26. I haven't started the career in my 7th boat, but she probably won't put out any sooner. On the other hand her assigned grid will be AO95.

[Fish In The Water]

Sneaky?

In a good (stealthy - a.k.a. silent hunting) sort of way...

Then again I didn't see much traffic, and came home with four ships total.

Too bad, still a good idea though. Never hurts being in the first echelon.

My 1st Flot Type II didn't make her first voyage until September 26..

Wow, call me before the war's over...

I can almost hear the old war story now. Must have gone something like this:

"What did you do in the war daddy?"

"Well son, we spent the first month tied up at the dock, and then when we finally set sail we pretty much just hugged the shore." :lol:

[fitzcarraldo]

Some questions about the environments in GWX 3.0:

The "stock GWX" environment is a 8 KM environment?

What is the "polygon removed/reduced" environment in GWX 3? Only the 16 Km? Or the "stock GWX" also?

The question is how I see both environments: the "stock GWX" looks better in my machine, and it seems to have no polygons effects...I see the fog better in the "stock GWX" env.

Many thanks and best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[BRNR]

Can we assume that if we load up SH3 with GWX and try to go online with a friend that is running the stock version of SHIII that it will not be a successful connection?

[Jimbuna]

Can we assume that if we load up SH3 with GWX and try to go online with a friend that is running the stock version of SHIII that it will not be a successful connection?

All players in multi play must have the same setup as the person who hosts the online session...a few exceptions are boat skins and gramaphone tracks.

[Chubster]

Just reading the GWX manual about approaching a convoy and it states "Your lookouts will generally let you know the general type of each ship eg cargo, coastal vessel, destroyer etc"

Erm....mine just say "Ship spotted".... a lot......

I get the Box that comes up that says either warship or merchant but my lookouts dont tell me squat

Whats up ?

[Sailor Steve]

They don't "tell" you, but it appears that way on the map.

[Chubster]

Ok....ta.

Just one other thing, reading the manual i see they have got rid of the renown for going to assigned grid and patrolling there.

So basically I dont need to bother, the world my lobster so to speak

[Fish In The Water]

Just one other thing, reading the manual i see they have got rid of the renown for going to assigned grid and patrolling there.

So basically I dont need to bother, the world my lobster so to speak

Yup, there's no penalty for 'ignoring' orders and sailing where-you-will, or --- you can simply put the renown back in.

IMO, (from a late war realism point of view) it actually is somewhat of an achievement to return successfully from an assigned patrol grid. So, if you want to reinsert simply navigate to:

SH3\data\Cfg\Basic.cfg

Then scroll down (should be three items from the top) to:

[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=0
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=0
CompletedPatrol=0
NEUTRAL=-1
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10
WrongShipSunk=-5000
FirstRankRenown=100
SecondRankRenown=350
EndCampaign=-5000

and edit the Renown values to taste.

Last but not least, enjoy the extra renown! :up:

[Sailor Steve]

I don't care if there's renown involved or not. I go to my assigned grid and stay there for at least two weeks, and even if ordered to move (die roll) I still don't move more than one grid over.

[Jimbuna]

Ok....ta.

Just one other thing, reading the manual i see they have got rid of the renown for going to assigned grid and patrolling there.

So basically I dont need to bother, the world my lobster so to speak

Renown was indeed removed for reaching then remaining in patrol grid for 24 hours but we never touched the return to base renown.....it's never worked http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2391/bubblegum21.gif

[MerchantMarine1982]

Thanks for the help Sailor Steve, still not sure I know what I'm doing....the files I have in the mods folder are off my external hard drive from another computer so I don't know if i should simply delete them, or if I can use them for anything. I screen captured the folder but inserting an image requires it to be online already or something.

I have been playing sh3 on low realism settings, right now i think i've gone through several patrols. its a great game, but i think i have the stock fatigue thing worked out...as long as i have the time compression up to 128, there seems to be no fatigue. when i reach my patrol grid i cruise at ahead standard, 1/2 hour before change of watch i dive the boat and run silent so we can listen for any distant contacts. after the change of watch we remain submerged and silent for another half hour. before surfacing i go to ahead standard again to periscope depth to check the surface before surfacing.

I find myself playing the stock sh4 quite often though i enjoy my uboat campaign. just returned from a mission where i had to hunt down a pair of british KG5 battleships.

[Sailor Steve]

I screen captured the folder but inserting an image requires it to be online already or something.
Use a free picture-hosting service. I use www.photobucket.com (http://www.photobucket.com). Once you register they explain how to upload your pictures, then with one click you can copy the picture and paste it here, and here it will stay.

when i reach my patrol grid i cruise at ahead standard,
I always use Ahead 1/3 (#2 position) to get to and from my assigned grid, and Ahead Slow (#1 position) once I'm there. Fuel lasts a lot longer that way.

I find myself playing the stock sh4 quite often though i enjoy my uboat campaign. just returned from a mission where i had to hunt down a pair of british KG5 battleships.
I play Op Monsun with SH4. Some of the features are better than SH3, but it hasn't been modded as heavily, so I still play both.

[reignofdeath]

Use a free picture-hosting service. I use www.photobucket.com (http://www.photobucket.com). Once you register they explain how to upload your pictures, then with one click you can copy the picture and paste it here, and here it will stay.


I always use Ahead 1/3 (#2 position) to get to and from my assigned grid, and Ahead Slow (#1 position) once I'm there. Fuel lasts a lot longer that way.


I play Op Monsun with SH4. Some of the features are better than SH3, but it hasn't been modded as heavily, so I still play both.

Just out of curiousity what features do you find better in OM than SHIII?? Personally, I liked the graphics, water, fog and such. Other than that, every thing else was iffy for me. Not saying it wasnt a good mod, just didnt fit me too well.

[Salvadoreno]

Im not understanding the current problem i am having.

I install Sh3. Everything fine
I install GWX 3.0 everything fine.
I install SH3 commnader and then the GWX cfg files for SH3- i get no sound coming from the crew. So frustrating. I dont know whats going on with my files in SH3 but i cannot get anything going, its been weeks. I did fresh install same thing and still i get the no sound. Is this anything i can just remedy without uninstalling/reinstalling for the 100th time?

Thanks All!!!

[frau kaleun]

I'm not sure but I seem to remember there was maybe something about a "no sound" issue in the Troubleshooting section near the end of the Commander User Guide?

Aha...

The SH3Cmdr User Guide is your friend. Read the "Since using SH3 Commander I can no longer hear speech or most sound effects" FAQ on page 29.

:yeah:

[Salvadoreno]

I'm not sure but I seem to remember there was maybe something about a "no sound" issue in the Troubleshooting section near the end of the Commander User Guide?

Aha...



:yeah:

ah.. looked through the guide and missed it. Guess thats why its good to ask! Thanks FRAU!!!!!!

[frau kaleun]

ah.. looked through the guide and missed it. Guess thats why its good to ask! Thanks FRAU!!!!!!

You're welcome, hope that fixes it for you. :sunny:

[tom_bz]

I know that GWX gets rid of friendlies, neutral and enemies when u make contact. Is there anyway to change this back to original SH3 so that on the map it reads red for enemies and blue for friendlies? Love the rest of the mod just like that my crew could tell me if it was a good guy or bad guy.

Thanks

[Sailor Steve]

Just out of curiousity what features do you find better in OM than SHIII?? Personally, I liked the graphics, water, fog and such. Other than that, every thing else was iffy for me. Not saying it wasnt a good mod, just didnt fit me too well.
I was talking about the improvements to SH4 itself over SH3. I play OM because it's the only full Atlantic campaign available for SH4. I want GWX's improvements, and WAC's, and LSH3's, all added to SH4.

[torpedobait]

I know that GWX gets rid of friendlies, neutral and enemies when u make contact. Is there anyway to change this back to original SH3 so that on the map it reads red for enemies and blue for friendlies? Love the rest of the mod just like that my crew could tell me if it was a good guy or bad guy.

Thanks

There is a mod called GWX - Contact Color that will restore the colors to the original. You should be able to find it in the GWX forum. Good Luck! :salute:

[frau kaleun]

I know that GWX gets rid of friendlies, neutral and enemies when u make contact. Is there anyway to change this back to original SH3 so that on the map it reads red for enemies and blue for friendlies? Love the rest of the mod just like that my crew could tell me if it was a good guy or bad guy.

Thanks

GWX Contact Color:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=33

:up:

[tom_bz]

Thank you so much. It is sure amazing the mod support is still strong for such a old game. I played SH3 when it first came out and just started up again.

Thanks again

[Jimbuna]

GWX Contact Color:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=33

:up:

I can see somebody expecting a bit of commission soon :DL

[Fish In The Water]

I played SH3 when it first came out and just started up again.

Glad you came back, and yes the mod support is amazing! :yep:

[thehiredgun]

Has anyone gone to Poland in 1939 & is there any activity there? Or where is the best place to start off the war?

[JapLance]

Hello SH3ers,

I'd like to know who would I have to contact to ask for permission to use a couple of nice and unique GWX ships in a mod I'm preparing for SH4 (Italian ships to be precise).

I've tried the PM route, but no answer came, so I'm posting here as a last resort.

Thanks for your help.

[Jimbuna]

Who did you PM?

[JapLance]

Hi jimbuna :),

I sent you a PM a couple of weeks ago because using the search engine I had found an old post of you showing a couple of cruisers I was interested in. By then I didn't have SH3, so there was no way I could know they belonged to GWX. After that I had my copy of SH3 from the mail and when installed GWX I found out that the "Garibaldis" where in that mod :arrgh!:.

As time passed with no reply I tried Kpt. Lehmann, but also no answer, so I decided to try again with your account a few days ago, as I had seen you were active in the forums, and later, just to make sure, I wrote that post.

[Jimbuna]

Then I should apologise because I honestly can't recall your PM.

I'll have a look at whose work those cruisers are and come back to you.

Edit: What ships were they again?

There are a few details on or around page 500 of the GWX manual...point me to them if you'd be so kind.

[JapLance]

No need to apologise :salute:.

Italian ships are from page 370 in GWX 3.0 manual. I was interested in the Condottieri cruisers (page 374), the MAS motorboat (page 375) and possibly the French Bourrasque class destroyer (page 317, the Italians seized one of them after the Toulon affair).

Thanks for your help :up:.

[Jimbuna]

No need to apologise :salute:.

Italian ships are from page 370 in GWX 3.0 manual. I was interested in the Condottieri cruisers (page 374), the MAS motorboat (page 375) and possibly the French Bourrasque class destroyer (page 317, the Italians seized one of them after the Toulon affair).

Thanks for your help :up:.

Can we now take this to PM because Condottieri appears to be GWX work and the Bourrasque is partially GWX.

What I can say publicly is...the MAS model is the work of 'Noline' and as I am unaware of who he is it would not be possible for me to give permission to use somebody elses work, he may have given Kpt. Lehmann said permission but I am honestly unaware.

[JapLance]

Can we now take this to PM because Condottieri appears to be GWX work and the Bourrasque is partially GWX.

What I can say publicly is...the MAS model is the work of 'Noline' and as I am unaware of who he is it would not be possible for me to give permission to use somebody elses work, he may have given Kpt. Lehmann said permission but I am honestly unaware.

I fully understand :salute:.

[MerchantMarine1982]

Alrighty then, thanks to the help I have recieved on this forum I have the JSGME modding tool set up for both sh3 and sh4...i have the mods i want for sh4 set up, and now i recall Frontier359 on youtube mentioned something about sh3 commander to turn off crew fatigue since it really shouldn't be my task as kapitan to manage crew other than putting them in their stations. in the mod list i have a whole pelethora of GWX folders for different things like french fixes or light harbro traffic, etc...is this what i have to enable for GWX or do i need a folder for grey wolves that needs to be enabled specifically? Also, where can i get the sh3 commander mod that works with JSGME... Thank you sh3 modding community, if i had it i would donate another $20, but I'm still looking for a job.

[frau kaleun]

Alrighty then, thanks to the help I have recieved on this forum I have the JSGME modding tool set up for both sh3 and sh4...i have the mods i want for sh4 set up, and now i recall Frontier359 on youtube mentioned something about sh3 commander to turn off crew fatigue since it really shouldn't be my task as kapitan to manage crew other than putting them in their stations. in the mod list i have a whole pelethora of GWX folders for different things like french fixes or light harbro traffic, etc...is this what i have to enable for GWX or do i need a folder for grey wolves that needs to be enabled specifically? Also, where can i get the sh3 commander mod that works with JSGME... Thank you sh3 modding community, if i had it i would donate another $20, but I'm still looking for a job.

SH3 Commander isn't a mod, it's a stand-alone program. You do not need to enable it with JSGME, you don't even need JSGME to use it. All you have to do is install it and point it at your SH3 game installation.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=2923

If you are playing GWX you will also need the config files for Commander + GWX3, which you should install after you install Commander itself.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1421

The folders in your MODS folder for GWX Fix French, Lite Harbor Traffic, etc., are optional mods that came with GWX. You do not need to enable them unless you want to use them. There are full explanations for all of them in your GWX manual, a .pdf that also came with your GWX installation.

[watergate]

Has anyone gone to Poland in 1939 & is there any activity there? Or where is the best place to start off the war?

Yup, I've tried. There was some action: few patrolling Polish DD's, some trawlers etc. Nothing big, but for me it was very good place to start. I did a little Prien-style action in Hel, sinking two DD's and one merchant :).
Btw It's my first post here nad I would like to thank creators of GWX mod. I'm playing it for few days now and it gets better and better :). Good job!

[Jimbuna]

Yup, I've tried. There was some action: few patrolling Polish DD's, some trawlers etc. Nothing big, but for me it was very good place to start. I did a little Prien-style action in Hel, sinking two DD's and one merchant :).
Btw It's my first post here nad I would like to thank creators of GWX mod. I'm playing it for few days now and it gets better and better :). Good job!

Welcome Aboard http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/welcome.gif

[Fish In The Water]

Btw It's my first post here...

Hopefully the first of many, welcome to SubSim! :sunny:

...I would like to thank creators of GWX mod. I'm playing it for few days now and it gets better and better :).

Good to hear you're enjoying it, carry on and good hunting!

[thehiredgun]

If you are leaving from Belchin where is the best place to find action in 1939? Would Canada or Newfoundland have any action there? Please answer.

[Salvadoreno]

Hey GWX team!

I was wondering how similar your sensors.dat/.sim/and AI_sensors.dat to the NYGM mod. For some STUPID!!!! reason i cannot open the .dat/.sim files via notepad on my comp or any other txt.doc. I wanted to compare them. If not i wanted to just c/p the sensors/.sim/AI sensors. dat to the data/librarys folder to make it harder. That wouldnt cause anything catastophic would it?

[Madox58]

Those files don't open in Notepad.
You need to use S3D or a Hex Editor.

[Wolfstriked]

Please someone tell me there is a fix for my TC blues.I have installed and uninstalled GWX 4 times already and you all know how long that takes.The reason is when I use time compression the game doesn't really speed up(like 3seconds for every 1 second real time)and when I hit ENTER key it doesn't work to put time at normal.I then have to back out each step of TC with the - key.I have scoured the net for an answer and finally here is my last attempt.

[Fish In The Water]

I have installed and uninstalled GWX 4 times... when I use time compression... and when I hit ENTER key it doesn't work to put time at normal.

Sorry to hear about all the re-installations... :damn:

The following is a screen shot from page 80 of the GWX manual:

http://i53.tinypic.com/nxp8iu.jpg

[Wolfstriked]

Sorry to hear about all the re-installations... :damn:

The following is a screen shot from page 80 of the GWX manual:

http://i53.tinypic.com/nxp8iu.jpg

Thanks Fish,I thought ENTER was normal time.That is not the issue I am having though,its more that TC seems sped up by 2X max(even though it goes to 1024) so I sit there watching the time go 2:30......2:32......etc.And when I click on F4 for example it reverts back to normal time in stock but in my GWX it does nothing.Also my mouse moves super slow on pc screen.

[Fish In The Water]

Thanks Fish,I thought ENTER was normal time.That is not the issue I am having though,its more that TC seems sped up by 2X max(even though it goes to 1024) so I sit there watching the time go 2:30......2:32......etc.And when I click on F4 for example it reverts back to normal time in stock but in my GWX it does nothing.Also my mouse moves super slow on pc screen.

It sounds like it could be a video or sound driver issue. Are you experiencing issues with any other programs?

In cases like this, the usual first steps are to try turning down your hardware acceleration and then (if necessary) look into updating your video and/or sound drivers.

Another option is to edit the TC values in SH3 Commander and then launch the game to test if the issues are still present.

Hope you get it sorted. :sunny:

[Wolfstriked]

It sounds like it could be a video or sound driver issue. Are you experiencing issues with any other programs?

In cases like this, the usual first steps are to try turning down your hardware acceleration and then (if necessary) look into updating your video and/or sound drivers.

Another option is to edit the TC values in SH3 Commander and then launch the game to test if the issues are still present.

Hope you get it sorted. :sunny:

Thanks,its only with GWX though so I doubt drivers are it.I reinstalled and just finished and its still screwy.I am wasted and off to bed.Thanks again.:salute:

[HW3]

Your system specs would be a good place to start.:yep:

[Wolfstriked]

quad core @2.83
4Gig ram
GTX480

Any ideas?

[Jimbuna]

Do you have Integrated Orders and is so what else is enabled?

[Wolfstriked]

Do you have Integrated Orders and is so what else is enabled?

No integrated orders,just straight up GWX and it still is lag city.

[Jimbuna]

Well your system specs are more than adequate so it is either a graphics driver issue or you've got one huge resources hog running in the background.

[Wolfstriked]

Well your system specs are more than adequate so it is either a graphics driver issue or you've got one huge resources hog running in the background.

Thank you guys.....its working now.I have no idea what I did but a reinstall again and it works fine.Still thanks for the attempt to help me.:yeah:

[Jimbuna]

Thank you guys.....its working now.I have no idea what I did but a reinstall again and it works fine.Still thanks for the attempt to help me.:yeah:

SINK EM ALL!!

[Wolfstriked]

SINK EM ALL!!

Aye Aye Captain!!

[Jimbuna]

Aye Aye Captain!!

Ja Herr Kaleun :03:

[Fish In The Water]

Thank you guys.....its working now.I have no idea what I did but a reinstall again and it works fine.Still thanks for the attempt to help me.:yeah:

You're very welcome. Great to hear it's working!

Good hunting! :arrgh!:

[PapaPlayz]

Morning!
After Vista decided to render my machine inoperable a few months ago, I decided to upgrade to Windows 7. Finally got around to reinstalling SHIII and GWX 3.0 and, much to my dismay, can't get it to run on 7. Is there a trick? My apologies if this is a re-thread, but I don't have time to search through all 5,000+ posts.
Thanks for any insight!

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Welcome aboard, PapaPlayz.

You might try the thread I've linked below for Windows 7 issues.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=162165

Sink'em all!!! :arrgh!:

[fitzcarraldo]

Morning!
After Vista decided to render my machine inoperable a few months ago, I decided to upgrade to Windows 7. Finally got around to reinstalling SHIII and GWX 3.0 and, much to my dismay, can't get it to run on 7. Is there a trick? My apologies if this is a re-thread, but I don't have time to search through all 5,000+ posts.
Thanks for any insight!

Welcome aboard, mate.

SH3 GWX and a lot of mods runs fine in my W7 64 bits.

Please:

Install in C:\ or your root HD (not in "program files", the default folder installation).

Run SH3 with administrator rights.

Verify the Windows defender, firewall, AV, etc...

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[Fubar2Niner]

Welcome aboard, mate.

SH3 GWX and a lot of mods runs fine in my W7 64 bits.

Please:

Install in C:\ or your root HD (not in "program files", the default folder installation).

Run SH3 with administrator rights.

Verify the Windows defender, firewall, AV, etc...

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

@PapaPlayz

Alternatively if your rig is a single user account only, disable UAC and your troubles will be over, welcome aboard shipmate and good luck :arrgh!:

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Jimbuna]

I'm running my versions in the C\x86 area.

[Fubar2Niner]

I'm running my versions in the C\x86 area.

I thought you was o/s 64 now kaleun :-?

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Jimbuna]

I thought you was o/s 64 now kaleun :-?

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

I am :yep:

[Fubar2Niner]

I am :yep:

MSG recieved and understood.............. me being dim :oops:

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Jimbuna]

MSG recieved and understood.............. me being dim :oops:

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

No problem Kaleun http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Fish In The Water]

After Vista decided to render my machine inoperable a few months ago, I decided to upgrade to Windows 7.

Bad Vista... :damn:

Hope you get it sorted and welcome aboard!

[kacmahasan]

Hello, Is there a way in GWX 3.0 to make ships appear on map in green, blue or red colors according to their nations like in the original game?

I am pretty new to this game, actually i still can not properly calculate and fire a manual torpedo, whenever i have weap. off. calculate the solution we miss the target and laugh at each other (even if he is a bad naval officer, he is a fun guy)

And What should I do when a destroyer notices me and comes towards me at full speed?

EDIT: I think I found it here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=33

[frau kaleun]

Hello, Is there a way in GWX 3.0 to make ships appear on map in green, blue or red colors according to their nations like in the original game?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=33

^^This mod will return the friendly/enemy/neutral color-coding to the contact icons on your nav map.

I am pretty new to this game, actually i still can not properly calculate and fire a manual torpedo, whenever i have weap. off. calculate the solution we miss the target and laugh at each other (even if he is a bad naval officer, he is a fun guy)

Some people never get the hang of manual targeting, some aren't even interested in using it, I haven't tried it yet myself. Maybe some day when real life isn't providing me with my minimum daily requirement of frustration. :O:

And What should I do when a destroyer notices me and comes towards me at full speed?

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s207/sullypython/Goodreads/MontyPythonRunAway.jpg

There are some RN ships that a u-boat could outrun on the surface, I expect GWX models max speeds pretty well so trying that is always an option if conditions (dark night, weather, etc.) have made it easier to get out of his visual range.

However anything that leaves you vulnerable to his gunfire (even if you are pulling away from him on the surface) is probably a bad idea.

If you can't get out of range on the surface, dive, and quickly. Early in the war, in particular, Allied ASW is not that great (unless you run into an "elite" ASW crew) and if you get deep enough they usually can't touch you. Then it's just a matter of staying quiet and deep until they give up and go away.

[kacmahasan]

thanks :)

[FIREWALL]

Any truth to the rumor of a GWX 3.1 Expansion pk. ?

[Jimbuna]

Any truth to the rumor of a GWX 3.1 Expansion pk. ?

Be sure to let me know when you have the intel :salute:

[Sailor Steve]

Be sure to let me know when you have the intel :salute:
One player's wishful thinking becomes another player's request becomes another player's rumor. Remember a few months back when one of the newer guys was insisting that the team was back together and secretly working on SH5? When it was denied his answer was "Yeah, right!"

[irish1958]

The only expansion pack I know of is between my belt and my knees.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

One player's wishful thinking becomes another player's request becomes another player's rumor. Remember a few months back when one of the newer guys was insisting that the team was back together and secretly working on SH5? When it was denied his answer was "Yeah, right!"

Hmmm... urban legends and conspiracy theories! :hmmm:

I think that the team should take it as a compliment that such controversies arise on occasion.

At any rate, I hate to keep disappointing hopeful people, but there is no new GWX project in the works. GWX is a project that remains gracefully retired.

[frau kaleun]

The only expansion pack I know of is between my belt and my knees.

Yeah, but is it just eye candy or a significant improvement in gameplay?







Just trying to decide if it's gonna be worth the extra load times... :hmmm: :O:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

< Runs for the eye-wash station. > :eek:

[FIREWALL]

I just posted that to put alittle life around here and...

There has been alot of new GWX compatable mods made lately.

So imho enough said. :DL

[Jimbuna]

LOL :DL

[thehiredgun]

Trying to find out whether or not this mod is workable for any uboat as I am in an IXD2. I tried to find a readme on this mod & it quotes see the %#^! manual. I don't think there is one of us that don't appreciate these modders for using all their time & effort to produce these mods but for some of these modders it seems to give them a god complex & makes one want to grab him by the throat reach down it & jerk his liver out & show it to him!

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Trying to find out whether or not this mod is workable for any uboat as I am in an IXD2. I tried to find a readme on this mod & it quotes see the %#^! manual. I don't think there is one of us that don't appreciate these modders for using all their time & effort to produce these mods but for some of these modders it seems to give them a god complex & makes one want to grab him by the throat reach down it & jerk his liver out & show it to him!

Hi thehiredgun,
Unfortunately mate, FM's interior mods are not part of GWX. You may have better luck presenting your problem in a calm fashion on FM's interior mod thread.:03:

[frau kaleun]

@thehiredgun: the FM Interiors mod is for the Type VII boats only. It contains no interior files for the Type IXs so, no, even if you have it enabled it will not give you new expanded interiors if you are playing a Type IX. :DL

[captaintex]

Is it any way to fix the bug that makes your periscope goto hell 99% of the times your hit by a depth charge or so. That + the terrible loading times can make gwx a bit frustrating.

[STEED]

the terrible loading times can make gwx a bit frustrating.

There is nothing you can do about that, we're all in the same boat.

BTW:Welcome.

[irish1958]

Is it any way to fix the bug that makes your periscope goto hell 99% of the times your hit by a depth charge or so. That + the terrible loading times can make gwx a bit frustrating.
As Steed said: that's the way it is.
I load the game and go get a drink, hit the head, and check my mail.
The only way around this long loading problem is to get a $10.000 computer.
Otherwise, relax.
Or play something else.
Welcome aboard. My suggestion is to stick with it and enjoy one of the truly great PC games.

[Jimbuna]

Is it any way to fix the bug that makes your periscope goto hell 99% of the times your hit by a depth charge or so. That + the terrible loading times can make gwx a bit frustrating.

Welcome to SubSim captaintex...the length of time it takes to load the game is down to the fact EVERYTHING in the SH3 world is loaded as one piece of information (this is now an old game engine) however, I am currently using a quad core processor with 8GB RAM anf my GWX loads in under two minutes, so it is possible, with a fairly modern system (for those lucky enough to possess one...and I certainly didn't during the development of all the GWX versions) to shorten the load times considerably.

[captaintex]

Thanks for the warm welcome guys :)

Im used to UBI's games, so i feared that it was little to do with the loadingtime. But its a great game with the GWX mod. I have a pretty old system, so it might have something to do with it aswell. Kind of a evil circle, instead of looking for jobs so i can buy a new pc i start SH3 and then remember how long a game can take :DL

[torpedobait]

After my hard drive crashed last year, I too invested in a powerful pc - FalconNW Mach V, Intel quad processors, 12 Gb RAM, dual video SLI cards, etc. but what made a big difference in GWX load times was the 256Gb solid state drive. GWX loads in under 1 minute. Not bragging (this time) - just offering that as a suggestion for when the time comes to replace yours. It was all that pc horsepower or a new pickup - what a dilemma! :har:

[BigK]

Installed SH3 last week, first time I played a legal copy of it :oops:
Look around a bit and installed GWX3 too.

Thanks a lot !! SH3 always felt a bit bare but this mod is great. It adds so much ambience and feel to the game. :yeah:

[Fish In The Water]

Look around a bit and installed GWX3 too.

Thanks a lot !! SH3 always felt a bit bare but this mod is great. It adds so much ambience and feel to the game. :yeah:

Glad you're enjoying it, and welcome aboard! :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

Installed SH3 last week, first time I played a legal copy of it :oops:
Look around a bit and installed GWX3 too.

Thanks a lot !! SH3 always felt a bit bare but this mod is great. It adds so much ambience and feel to the game. :yeah:

Enjoy the GWXperience http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[BossMark]

Just started a new career 1st August 1939 and the harbour of willelmshaven is like a ghost town there is know over ships apart from my u-boat :hmmm:
Kiel is the same as well

[Fish In The Water]

Just started a new career 1st August 1939 and the harbour of willelmshaven is like a ghost town there is know over ships apart from my u-boat :hmmm:

Well it is August, so they're probably all on vacation... :O:

[Jimbuna]

Just started a new career 1st August 1939 and the harbour of willelmshaven is like a ghost town there is know over ships apart from my u-boat :hmmm:
Kiel is the same as well

Wilhelmshaven has traffic scripted in it to commence Aug 38.

Check you don't have any of the following enabled:

Lite Harbour Traffic
Black Sea Campaign
Indian Ocean Campaign

[BossMark]

Wilhelmshaven has traffic scripted in it to commence Aug 38.

Check you don't have any of the following enabled:


Black Sea Campaign

Yep it was this all systems go now :salute:

Well it is August, so they're probably all on vacation... :O:
Hey never thought of it that way :DL

[Jimbuna]

Yep it was this all systems go now :salute:

Hey never thought of it that way :DL

You make it so obvious your a Leeds supporter :O:

Glad your sorted :03:

[BossMark]

You make it so obvious your a Leeds supporter :O:
:D
Glad your sorted :03:
Just one more question is GWX compatible with NYGM tonnage war v2.5-stand alone version

[Gerald]

Just one more question is GWX compatible with NYGM tonnage war v2.5-stand alone version No,If I understand correctly!

[Jimbuna]

Just one more question is GWX compatible with NYGM tonnage war v2.5-stand alone version

GWX and NYGM are not compatable with one another...both are standalone super mods.

There is nothing stopping you installing NYGM separately and giving it a go though.

[BossMark]

GWX and NYGM are not compatable with one another...both are standalone super mods.

There is nothing stopping you installing NYGM separately and giving it a go though.

No,If I understand correctly!
OK thank you both very much :salute:

[Jimbuna]

No probs...enjoy the GWXperience http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[thehiredgun]

If you start the war all over again in April 1942 , is it possible to get in & out of New York harbor alive?

[Alex]

What a crazy question ! http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5163/unled1ax.png
During the development of GWX I personally have been checking the transit of ships in all ports along the American East coast (from Canada to Argentina), but I've got to admit I've never been thinking about testing such a thing ! :woot: http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/Panzer_Kamerad/smileys/uglylaugh.gif

My advice to you would be not to play with fire too much.

[Jimbuna]

From Oct 41 there is an anti-sub net blocking the entrance.

[captnmartin]

This is going to sound stupid, but when I try to return to port in Silent Hunter III with the GWX, the base defenders (shore guns) and what not start firing on me.

[Sailor Steve]

WELCOME ABOARD! :sunny:

First question: Did you go out in August 1939 and sink some ships? GWX allows you to start that early so you can go to your patrol zone and wait for September 3, which is when British and Allied ships become legitimate targets (Germany invaded Poland on Sept 1, so they are targets at that time). In August all countries are neutral or friendly, so attacking their ships makes you then enemy of everyone, including Germany.

[captnmartin]

Well, problem solved...

I wasn't sure about the dates, double checked my history to see if I was missing anything, figured it was a glitch.

Lesson learned, career, take two... Wish command wouldn't have kept sending those "Congratulations!" messages from patrol reports.

[Jimbuna]

Only fire on ships that are not from your country!!

[Schwieger]

Only fire on ships that are not from your country!!

lol, reminds me of the time I accidently torpedo a friendly BB in port. Some of the controls are too cramped together on the keyboard.

[irish1958]

lol, reminds me of the time I accidently torpedo a friendly BB in port. Some of the controls are too cramped together on the keyboard.
Did you enjoy the Eastern Front?

[Fish In The Water]

Wish command wouldn't have kept sending those "Congratulations!" messages from patrol reports.

Congratulations on blowing up things even though we're not at war! :haha:

[vodkaphile]

Excuse me for not reading all of the manual, it looks like GWX3 Gold has changed some zoom levels of periscopes etc....


Why?

Any way to change it back?


Not a huge issue, just messes with some of my calculations and charts.

Also it seems some mast height information is incorrect.

[JeromeHeretic]

In GWX are inbound/outbound Kiel canal buttons. Is it somewhere as mod? I can't find it.

It replaces two search patterns, so if it doesn't exist as mod i want to take out files with this patterns and put it to my config, but i don't know in which files are this search patterns stored. Can anybody help please?

[Jimbuna]

In GWX are inbound/outbound Kiel canal buttons. Is it somewhere as mod? I can't find it.

It replaces two search patterns, so if it doesn't exist as mod i want to take out files with this patterns and put it to my config, but i don't know in which files are this search patterns stored. Can anybody help please?

When you zoom in on your navigation map whilst in Kiel they should be viewable.

[Sailor Steve]

Excuse me for not reading all of the manual, it looks like GWX3 Gold has changed some zoom levels of periscopes etc....


Why?

Any way to change it back?


Not a huge issue, just messes with some of my calculations and charts.

Also it seems some mast height information is incorrect.
Stock:
Attack Periscope: 1.5x, 6x
Observation Periscope: 1x, 4x

GWX:
Attack Periscope: 1.5x, 10x

This was done because in 6x you can't see as clearly as you can in real life. I don't use it myself, but it's a very good idea, especially for people who do everything manually.

Real Life:
All periscopes are 1.5x and 6x. This is true for pretty much every navy.

The mod you want to make them historically correct is this one:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1519

Or with S3D you can change the parameters yourself, which is what I had to do to make it work with all the other mods I'm using.

[Wolfstriked]

WOW GWX is EXCELLENTE!!:up::up:Two thumbs up!!!

I have been trying to find a more realistic gamestyle of the dive and evade part of sub warfare.I just re-re-re-reinstalled GWX and was amazed at how real it all looked when watching from above.You do not notice the amount of work that goes into a mod if you start off with them.....its sad in a way.The escorts notice the submarine pretty quick and start firing away while you submerge,with a high chance of destroying your scope as you watch all calmly.:up:They ping and follow you as you evade to then drop the depth charges as close to you.It looked so real as night fell and 3 ships with high beams searched like crazy depth charging and all.Such a major difference from stock SH3.Just a few things I noticed that are not good BUT this is from a godseye perspective and so I wouldn't have such an advantage evading them.

At one point I got hit on the stern crew quarters and started to flood.What happened next never happened to me before.The whole sub tilted on its end with the flooded stern dropping like a rock.Very kool and if its normal Sh3 it was still my first time:rock:My hats off to the devs of GWX,I bow to your mod and your kindness of making it for the community.

EDIT<<<<<just wanna link this excellent post by OP Ducimus.Its about the sensors in GWX and really explains it well.Its taken me a long time to finally know what I know about ASW and just got schooled some more in this excellent post.I think it should be stickied for good since many newcomers will be so lost as I was.:03:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=395451&postcount=1

[Fish In The Water]

The escorts notice the submarine pretty quick and start firing away while you submerge,with a high chance of destroying your scope as you watch all calmly.:up:

Welcome back to the chilling world of GWX! :o

[Jimbuna]

Pleased to see your enjoying your GWXperience Wolfstriked http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Wolfstriked]

I am falling again for GWX.:haha:I even love the theme music,very atmospheric.About the sub tilting severely,is that a stock SH3 effect?

[Jimbuna]

I am falling again for GWX.:haha:I even love the theme music,very atmospheric.About the sub tilting severely,is that a stock SH3 effect?

Nope, that is something we added and actually meant a couple of the testers feeling a little seasick when first introduced :DL

[Wolfstriked]

Nope, that is something we added and actually meant a couple of the testers feeling a little seasick when first introduced :DL


Then you guys rock!!!It actually forced the bow out of the water it was so severe.I decided to dive with flank speed and main pumps back on with DD right above me.No other choice.:up:That added a great gameplay aspect!!

That was so kool and reminds me that alot can be done to further the underwater part of Sh3.I am dreaming of having access to the main ballast tank,the negative tank and the emergency tank.Would love to be more in tune with diving and the ballast tank control and the compressed air supply that from reading was very valuable.In Sh3 its kinda non existent.

Things like each torpedo fired will cause balance issues as you lose that mass.The ship compensates by flooding the tube with water.But to load a new torpedo you need CA to blow the tube dry.So each torpedo load will drop CA slightly.

The negative tank......when your being searched for and at PD with 1 to 2 kts the boat dives so freaking slow.Flood the negative tank dropping the bow and speeding up the dive with consequence of using more of the precious CA.Also would think that blowing and filling it would allow one to be slightly buoyant and slightly heavy so that you can hover with no speed.....wasting more CA.:arrgh!:

Finally the emergency tank.....had enough water to fill a tank the size of the conning tower in case it flooded.Would love being able to blow this tank.We have all been there and having an emergency tank just in case would be sweet.Your reaching critical depth,the flooding has stopped but boat is holding a ton of water,you have blown ballast and your batteries are dying not giving enough juice to power the sub back up.What do we do Kaleun?!?!? Save us!!!

I have a dream and it would be sweet!:haha:

[Jimbuna]

SINK EM ALL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[kknobl]

Is it me or is the AI in GWX 3 more challenging than it was in 2.1? I can sneak into a convoy, but once I fire my torpedos off and try to sneak away from what's left, the escorts hound me (and let their convoy go ahead unescorted) like crazy. We're not talking 1943 up, we're talking March 1941.

I noticed that it seems like their depth charges seem score direct hits anddestroy the sub time and time again the instant I rig for silent. It's disappointing because I've nailed four and five ships out of a convoy only to be killed right away. Is there anything to tweak down the AI? I play for fun. Some realism is great, but hardcore isn't for me. Things have gone down this way three times with different convoys.

[HW3]

Fire and go deep right away (200M usually works) as fast as you can, then go silent and drop your speed just a little bit more than silent running sets it.:yep:

[U2222]

Installed a new copy of SH3v1.4 and ran to check it worked.
SH3 has not been installed on this pc before
Came to install GWX3 and all went well until I got alert messages that some source files were corrupt:
data\Terrain\Data\TerrainData.BFD
data\Terrain\Data\TerrainData.BFI
Alexandria.dat
Alexandria_city.dat
Bergen.dat
etc, etc

Is the fault with my SH3 files or one of the GWX3 files.
If it is a GWX file, any ides which to save me downloading all of them again.

Thanks in anticipation

[danlisa]

If it is a GWX file, any ides which to save me downloading all of them again.

It is a GWX file that's corrupted.

Check this link for the MD5 Checksums: http://www.thegreywolves.com/downloads/

You will need MD5Mate (which is not available form that page) but you can get it here: http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/MD5Mate.shtml

Then, open the application, choose each GWX file and use the corresponding checksum to do a compare. The application will tell you when it finds the corrupt file.

[U2222]

Thank you very much Danlisa :yeah:

[Wolfstriked]

Is it me or is the AI in GWX 3 more challenging than it was in 2.1? I can sneak into a convoy, but once I fire my torpedos off and try to sneak away from what's left, the escorts hound me (and let their convoy go ahead unescorted) like crazy. We're not talking 1943 up, we're talking March 1941.

I noticed that it seems like their depth charges seem score direct hits anddestroy the sub time and time again the instant I rig for silent. It's disappointing because I've nailed four and five ships out of a convoy only to be killed right away. Is there anything to tweak down the AI? I play for fun. Some realism is great, but hardcore isn't for me. Things have gone down this way three times with different convoys.

When they are pinging you,wait till SO says "depth charges in the water" and then flank ahead and turn.Some may not know how it all works and its very hard even when you do.Put your SO to follow nearest warship and try to keep him at your 180 to reduce the amount of your ship your presenting.I do not go deep and survive this way(around 70m tp 100m)....though I am in Type IIa with max 100m dive depth and am not even past 1941.

[Wolfstriked]

Questions about GWX and maybe someone can help me.First is that I have my own modded typeIIA that I install into the game but it says that it reinstalls the scene.dat from GWX.I want that except for the 20km part...I want that to stay.Is the 20km just a single line tweak and if so can someone point me to where in scene.dat its located?

Second is....any way to put the Ai to use the sensors I have onboard to their maximum perfromance.I actually hate when I submerge and ask my SO to do a sweep and he states no contacts.Then I get on it and there everywhere.Why is he a SO if he sucks so bad?:D

[Jimbuna]

The 20km scene dat was a major improvement of the GWX3.0 release.

[Trasgu2010]

Hy EveryBody!!!:arrgh!:

I have this mods enabled:

GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V6
Extras for the Wilhelmshaven campaign v2.4c
Add TMT ThomsonsShips fix
GWX - Alternate Loadscreen - Full Circle
GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
GWX_SH4StyleFlag_fullModel
SH4Style_flag_fastSpeed
SH4Style_flagS_midSpeed
Radio England
Radio Francais
Radio Deutschland

I´d like to know if i have to install any previous mod before-"TMT v2 + Thomsens Ships - Combimod".


Thank you for your help.

P.S
I´m Student so Sorry for my English.

[frau kaleun]

Add TMT ThomsensShips fix provides compatibility for Thomsens Ships (or TMT + Thomsens Ships) and Extras for the Wilhelmshaven campaign.

I believe instructions are included in WB's documentation for the latter, and you should consult them to be sure, but if I remember correctly the correct order is:

GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V6
Extras for the Wilhelmshaven campaign v2.4c
TMT v2 + Thomsens Ships
Add TMT ThomsensShips fix

In any case the fix must be enabled after you enable the two mods whose conflicts it fixes.

[Trasgu2010]

Hy EveryBody!!!:arrgh!:
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5378/wwwsubsimcom20117171432.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/wwwsubsimcom20117171432.jpg/
I have this mods enabled:

GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V6
Extras for the Wilhelmshaven campaign v2.4c
TMT v2 + Thomsens Ships
Add TMT ThomsonsShips fix
GWX - Alternate Loadscreen - Full Circle
GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
GWX_SH4StyleFlag_fullModel
SH4Style_flag_fastSpeed
SH4Style_flagS_midSpeed
Radio England
Radio Francais
Radio Deutschland

I´m looking for Flags,Pennants and Turms Mods.But after searching and reading about,I do not know which one or which ones to choose.
Which ones would you recomend me??.
What order do I have to enable??.

Thank you for your help.

P.S
I´m Student so Sorry for my English.

[Trasgu2010]

Hy EveryBody!!!:arrgh!:

Acording to the manual,if I do understand well,you only have "+rewon" if you pass each tutorial from the Naval AcademY and if you skink Ships.O.k

Now I have a doubt:

Do you have rewon penalty if you return from patrol whith some torpedos on board??.

Thank you for your help.:DL

[frau kaleun]

I´m looking for Flags,Pennants and Turms Mods.But after searching and reading about,I do not know which one or which ones to choose.
Which ones would you recomend me??.
What order do I have to enable??.


Anvart did mods that will give you the pennants and flags noted on the picture plus control of the radar antenna:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=165617

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=155413

For a super duper "upgrade" to your turms, check out Aces' stuff:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184132

His Super Turms mods are compatible with Anvart's mods and a whole bunch of others, plus he gives very detailed instructions for their use and order of enabling. You can use his own mod list, which he usually posts along with the instructions, as a reference. :yeah:

Also: there is no renown penalty for returning to base without using all your ammo, you just won't get the reward you might have gotten for using it successfully.

As far as I know the only way to lose renown is by sinking neutral or friendly ships, or a hospital ship regardless of its nationality.

If you are playing GWX, you can earn all the available Academy renown just by passing the test from one of the tutorials. (Take the navigation test, it's the easiest to pass). The others you can just use for training if you want.

[Jimbuna]

In GWX the option is, start with 500 or 1500.

[Trasgu2010]

Hy EveryBody!!!:arrgh!:
I wanna install some addons but I have no idea what is the correct order to installing using JSGME.
I´ve spent all morning reading about the addons that I want to install and I´m very confuse,so I need your help.

Addons that I want to install:
[REL] Aces' Super, Dupah, Woopah Turms (inc. Super Turms v6) for GWX
REL] GWX_DFa-Flag&Pennants_2010
Radar Antenna Up/Down ... new version for GWX 3.0
Bidirect_compat_4_DFaFlag&Pens.7z
[REL] GWX... DFant_subFlag on Turm... Continuation...
Waterstr+Exhaust-CombiV2.3
Foam+Sobers 3d waves+VisibleMines
Depthcharge_shake_2.01_+Real Depth Charge
VIIC41_WaterSTream
Unofficial_rockets_fix_GWX3.0
Damo's_Ambient_Lighting_FM_interior+FM_NewInterior _V1.0
ThomsenSoundPackV3.2cg
War Radio MP3
Unofficial_rockets_fix_GWX3.0
Aces' Radio Room Postcards
Aces' Modified Headphones

I have this mods enabled and perfectly working:

GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V6
Extras for the Wilhelmshaven campaign v2.4c
TMT v2 + Thomsens Ships
Add TMT ThomsonsShips fix
GWX - Alternate Loadscreen - Full Circle
GWX - Alternative Flotillas
GWX - Axis Mediterranean Aircraft Skins
GWX - Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
GWX - No Medals on Crew
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
GWX_SH4StyleFlag_fullModel
SH4Style_flag_fastSpeed
SH4Style_flagS_midSpeed
Radio England
Radio Francais
Radio Deutschland

Thank You For Your Help.:)

[Paulski]

Fire and go deep right away (200M usually works) as fast as you can, then go silent and drop your speed just a little bit more than silent running sets it.:yep:

So when after firing torpedo's I dive at full speed, the escorts won't hear me, and the convoy won't start zig-zagging..?

[frau kaleun]

So when after firing torpedo's I dive at full speed, the escorts won't hear me, and the convoy won't start zig-zagging..?

The escorts will know you're around if you get a hit, and will come looking for you. And IME, yes, the convoy may change course or scatter somewhat if only to avoid hitting damaged ships that are dead in the water or no longer making speed.

The idea is to get away from where you were when you fired the eels, and go deep - and then rig for silent running - all of which will make it harder for them to figure out where you are by the time they know to start actively hunting for you. It's not a guarantee of a successful getaway, but if you have to escape submerged it's your best option.

[Paulski]

The escorts will know you're around if you get a hit, and will come looking for you. And IME, yes, the convoy may change course or scatter somewhat if only to avoid hitting damaged ships that are dead in the water or no longer making speed.



What I meant is; won't the escorts hear me when I dive with my engines at full speed, before torpedo impact?