Minecraft [see post #1 for MP server info]

[Kapitän Schneider]

Those massive hole's are always appearing in the same places. While logging out and in again it does fix it but when you travel far away enough they come back.

[Oberon]

Nooooo...

Bug of throwing.. erm.. dropping tools and picking them back up and no "tool decay" is gone :wah:

:o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zZUwRHFsE0

[Arclight]

Anything works for me. Here, PM, Steam, all works. Steam is easiest to get a direct line though, or Skype.

For the record; Dowly, Oberon and Spike are OPs, so they could help you too, though atm only Oberon is online regularly.

[Krauter]

Ok,

Just didn't to post in a place and have you end up with a ton of potentially false requests for help.

Give me your skype info and I can contact you there.

[Krauter]

I'm so bloody lost :damn: :damn: :damn:

[Arclight]

Give me your skype info and I can contact you there.
It's on the left here. ;)





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[Krauter]

Cheers and Merry Christmas!

[TteFAboB]

"I'm building an Airship"

"Oh, like a Zeppelin?"

"Yes"

"Nice! How high does it fly?"

"Well, it doesn't actually fly, it stands still, mostly"

"Oh ... ... ... ... so you're building a 'model' Airship then?"

"No, not a model, it's an Airship"

"Maybe you could build an Airship cemetery, like, in the desert."

"NO! I'm building a REAL AIRSHIP, NOT A MODEL, NOT JUNK, A REAL AIRSHIP!"

"Ok, ok..."

Damn you Notch; give us moving blocks.

*Fires up 7598758043-block count Airship* *moves one square* *server overload* *server crash*.

[NeonSamurai]

Wait, so we can request that items the server ate be replaced? As I would really like my iron ore stack back so I can build my rail system.

[Dowly]

Wait, so we can request that items the server ate be replaced? As I would really like my iron ore stack back so I can build my rail system.

Yes, Arc, Spike, Oberon and I have the powers to give you back what you lost.

[Oberon]

Wait, so we can request that items the server ate be replaced? As I would really like my iron ore stack back so I can build my rail system.

Just say how much was lost and one of the sky gods will replace it. :yep: So that it can be eaten by the Notch again. :yep:

[Krauter]

Who is in-game right now? Out of the admins?

[Dowly]

Who is in-game right now? Out of the admins?

For other ops: Taken care off.

[Krauter]

Cheers dowly!

[NeonSamurai]

full stack 64 iron ore was what i lost

[Dowly]

full stack 64 iron ore was what i lost

Sorted.

EDIT: Oh and the booster works nicely to my place, so thanks for that. :up:

Only downside of my first ride was that creeper stole my cart and started to chase me around in it. :har:

[Nagy]

EDIT: Oh and the booster works nicely to my place, so thanks for that. :up:

Only downside of my first ride was that creeper stole my cart and started to chase me around in it. :har:

Glad it works. You should be able to duplicate it your end to get back, although I think it's slightly more uphill to get back so you might want to have both boosters run the full length of the mountain instead of just one.

Creepers were our biggest problem when we were testing your line.

[Krauter]

What exactly is a booster? How do I build one? Just so we can add rails to the Northern Loop.

Also, Arc, has Dowly informed you of my "problem" with items? If not, I will send you a PM with details.

[Oberon]

Zombies quite like carts, I've had one come after me in a cart before, he was quite happy about it all. :yep:

[Krauter]

I think the server went Kaput, or my computer won't connect.

I was walking home on the north loop and got the repeating horizon, except this time, it didnt move with me. When I got to the point where I was equal with the repeating shapes I froze. Now I can't log on.

[NeonSamurai]

Ditto server not responding

[Drewcifer]

Yep, not connecting.

[Krauter]

Was there a server update tonight?

[Arclight]

I've been away at family since Saturday, will be home later today.
Also, Arc, has Dowly informed you of my "problem" with items? If not, I will send you a PM with details.
So that would be a no. :)

[Drewcifer]

Still no Minecraft, its been down since I believe around midnight lastnight est, and its now about 1:30 est.

[Arclight]

Yeah just got home, it's on in 5 mins.

[Arclight]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/javaw2010-11-2515-59-35-15.jpg
Oh hai.

[Dowly]

Hai indeed. :hmmm:
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/MC_Skellyoutsidedoor.jpg

Don't know what Notch has changed in the world generator, but I'm liking it. :yeah:
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/MC_niceworld.jpg

[Arclight]

That's what Minecraft is about: building a bigger and better mouse trap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTS9Z6PFh0&feature=player_embedded

[NeonSamurai]

If you all need string there is a drowning trap by the rail from newbie land to the south near the parthenon. It's got a spawner, but it only spawns spiders.

[Nagy]

I've spent a nice afternoon photographing a couple of the more interesting chunk errors:

A cross-section of Lion's Mine:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/keab42/Screenshots/MCGlitch1LionsMine.png

I see lights...
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/keab42/Screenshots/MCGlitch2.png

And finally 4 shots of the biggest error I've come across so far:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/keab42/Screenshots/MCGlitch3thebigone.png

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/keab42/Screenshots/MCGlitch4.png

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/keab42/Screenshots/MCGlitch5.png

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/keab42/Screenshots/MCGlitch6.png

[Dowly]

Aye, there's quite a few of them. :yep:

[Spike88]

Are these chunk errors permanent?

[Oberon]

Are these chunk errors permanent?

Nope, just log out and then log back in and they're gone.

They do seem to be getting bigger though... :hmmm:

[Dowly]

My best guess is it's a compatibility issue with something Notch has changed on how the world works. :hmmm:

[Oberon]

My best guess is it's a compatibility issue with something Notch has changed on how the world works. :hmmm:

Hopefully it's code based as opposed to hardware based, has Notch acknowledged there's been an issue, or has it been reported in the bug thread?

[Krauter]

Dowly, what texture packs are you using? Anything 'environmental'? I see you use a different texture pack but can't find it.

I myself tried Doku's but found it makes things too 'dark' looking.

Cheers,

Krauter

[Task Force]

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7503/desktop2010123014492033.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5404/desktop2010123014492169.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2066/desktop2010123014492242.jpg
Big hole.

[NeonSamurai]

I saw ones today 2 times that, sometimes half the damn world would go.

[Dowly]

Hopefully it's code based as opposed to hardware based, has Notch acknowledged there's been an issue, or has it been reported in the bug thread?

Don't think it's hardware based as SP works fine for me. :hmmm:

@Krauter

I use Eld's Pack, great thing about it is that it's 16x16 yet still looks pretty darn good. :yeah:
http://www.eldpack.com/

Oh and the ambien occlusion thingy.

[danlisa]

@Krauter

Oh and the ambient occlusion thingy.

^ That's what makes the difference.

[Dowly]

^ That's what makes the difference.

It does. :yep:

[Oberon]

Don't think it's hardware based as SP works fine for me. :hmmm:

@Krauter

I use Eld's Pack, great thing about it is that it's 16x16 yet still looks pretty darn good. :yeah:
http://www.eldpack.com/

Oh and the ambien occlusion thingy.

I was referring to the hopefully extremely slim possibility that it's Arcs hardware cracking up. :dead:

[Nagy]

It's been reported on the official bug reporting site.

I haven't trawled the official Minecraft forums for it recently though.

[Arclight]

(slightly intoxicated)

I'd say the chance of it being server hardware is remote. The HDs are enterprise class; extremely reliable (though not remarkably fast).

Which reminds me: RAM has been upgraded to low-latency 800MHz, from a budget 666MHz kit (my brother finally returned my kit), and CPU is running at capacity again (downclocked it to accomidate 380W PSU, now 520W and at 2.66GHz dual-core).

So the server is at full capacity and I doubt hardware is keeping it back (I don't buy crappy hardware, you know ;)). Any error or excessive lag is no fault of the server. :smug:


Happy new year to all players. I appreciate your continued interest, it makes it worth it running this thing, which I appreciate since that's what it is for. :salute:


(This prolly took 30mins to write properly :lol:)

[Oberon]

Happy New SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


Ah good, Nagy, I haven't had a chance to browse the bug list, been watching Suzumiya Haruhi no Shō****su. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)

And thank you for hosting this Arc, it's been an absolute blast (Particularly with the Creepers) playing it.

EDIT: And lol, the censor censors the anime title.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)

[Crécy]

Happy new year! Long days and pleasant nights for the next year!


And thank you for hosting this Arc, it's been an absolute blast (Particularly with the Creepers) playing it.


I concur! I got minecraft MP working today so I'll return to burn my wooden castle down all over again. I believe Kolaaja will return as well.

[Dowly]

What be the schedule for the new world? :hmmm:

Ps. Arc, get yer ass to steam so I can say effing happy new year to you! :stare:

[Krauter]

Few more hours!
Happy New Years to All!

So what's the plan with this server? Is it being binned and a new one prepared? I hope not, I've finally got the stuff I've got to a point where I enjoy it.

[NeonSamurai]

Ya I've only just managed to get my surface pit trap operational

[Task Force]

Yea, and I just got the most of my tunnels lit up... Now to murder trees again!

[Jankowski]

maybe if you guys make the rule, that if a creeper blows up near you, then you have to fix the hole, otherwise the world will just turn into the rathole worlds you sometimes have on minecraft classic.

also, have any griefers visted your server yet??

[Crécy]

also, have any griefers visted your server yet??

No that I know of. Hardly any other than subsimmers finds the minecraft thread here so I believe we are fairly safe.

It's fun to build a bigger project when you have to deal with mobs all the time. Kolaaja and I lost everything. At the same time a fear that we are going to create a new world is torturing us :).

[Jankowski]

I sure would like to see your server! cant wait till i get minecraft next week!

i saw a screenshot that showed your world with creepers as plentiful as trees! sounds exciting!

how many people are online at any given time usually?

Im still thinking of what to build..... maybe a submarine to start off with.

also, is there a way to tell where a player is? in minecraft classic this is generally impossible.

[Nagy]

Please do not take Minecarts from the boosters!

It stops the network working for other players.

I have now placed a chest with some spare carts in it, at Bromley-By-Bow (Fort Newby/Parthenon) Station.

If you take a cart please replace it at the earliest possible convenience. I will add a few more when I can spare the Iron and any also carts I find unattended on the tracks.

You will find the chest on the grassy area next to the West Ham bound platform. Hopefully these carts will get you to your destination.

Crécy and Kolaaja, I think I have a plan for making the line to you work without having to widen it. But you'll have to make sure there's nobody travelling in the other direction before you set off.

On a slightly different note I went mod hunting based on some conversations with Neon.

These are just suggestions Arc, if you want to make the server back into a more creative than a survival one.

Anti-break mod (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?mode=linear&tid=3082&pid=38845): Lets you define which tools can be worn down, so for instance Diamond tools could be indestructable, whilst everything else still takes damage

[/URL][URL="http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=1030"]Craftsman mod (http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=1030): Adds the ability to repair tools as well as a couple of other useful functions.

Just some things to think about. Of course if you want to keep the server vanilla then we respect that. Hopefully in the future Notch will add something along the lines of the Craftsman mod anyway.

[NeonSamurai]

Ya a number of us are unhappy with having to use only stone tools due to the extra work and time involved. I wouldn't mind having either unbreakable diamond tools (not armor though, as that would make you immortal), or the ability to fix them.

[Arclight]

Sorry, this is not, was never intended to be and never will be a creative server.

And I don't want to get into a situation where the server is down because the game was updated, but we have to wait for someone's mod to follow suit.

[Nagy]

That's cool. I figured that was the way we were heading, and I completely understand your reasoning. Especially with Notch's unpredictable release schedule.

I mostly went looking for the mods out of curiosity, just to see if other people had wondered the same thing.

I've been planning my projects for the next map based on having to survive rather than something creative initially.

Notch is apparently planning a new update next week that introduces a Water Mob and Paint. Should be interesting.

[Arclight]

Paint? That's even more grief-sensitive than fire... which is quite worrying. :lol:


I don't think Minecraft is just about building; gathering resources is a big part of it. I know it's a pain in the rear, but keeping supplied with picks and other tools is just part of the game.

[Oberon]

What doesn't help is how spread out we are on the current map. However it would be unfair to the newcomers to end this map now and start a new one.

[Krauter]

Personally I enjoy the fact that we're spread out.

When I started out on this map, I found it very nice near home (very developed, etc) but found it kind of too crowded.

Where I'm at now, I enjoy because its far enough out and mostly secluded enough (the road that leads to it is neither fenced off nor very well lit) so griefers, should they appear, and wandering people looking to steal, will not find it. Yet, it is close enough that it can be reached within a day or two's worth of travel.


Also, Ark, I for one would love it if diamond tools were the only thing that was indestructible (picks, axes, shovels, spades and swords that is). It makes building your own creations a tad easier and quicker (in that you don't need to constantly worry about having to craft a new pick). Don't get me wrong if you decide not to implement these, but I for one enjoyed when tools were indestructible :O:

Edit: Are the two mods listed here available for SP? Or are they only useful for the admins of MP worlds??

Cheers,

Krauter

[Task Force]

I really agree with Krauter, you have to dig like crazy to find dimond, and then you get it just to wear it down, and its just a real pain in the a** to have to cut down abunch, of trees, and the stone, just to eat through them like crazy.

[Kapitän Schneider]

I would like to suggest that we have a Minister of Transportation. So they can keep the Minecarts on time. Also to repair the track and build Train Stations and make them Mob proof.

[Spike88]

I would like to suggest that we have a Minister of Transportation. So they can keep the Minecarts on time. Also to repair the track and build Train Stations and make them Mob proof.

I nominate you. :O:

[Oberon]

I would like to suggest that we have a Minister of Transportation. So they can keep the Minecarts on time. Also to repair the track and build Train Stations and make them Mob proof.

I thought you were from the UK? You should be used to minecarts not running on time, and train stations with holes in them. :O:

[Spike88]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/Tetsou88/javaw2011-01-0318-42-14-39.jpg

Damn. Running. Low. On. Tools. :haha:

Also, anyone know who Zirran is? he popped in, demanded Gordon, and left.

[Oberon]

Zirran is Kapitän Schneider.

Dunno who Gordon is. Probably Gordon Freeman...who could come in useful against the SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs hordes...

[Spike88]

Zirran is Kapitän Schneider.

Dunno who Gordon is. Probably Gordon Freeman...who could come in useful against the SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs hordes...


Gordon Freeman, or a crowbar even, would be great for battling the SSSS hordes. Just had a creeper nearly kill me.

I had noticed a new forest past the pyramid from my security booth(turns out it was just the new duplication system thing that has replaced the black squares in the distance). Was waiting in security booth for sunrise to check it out. Waited a little bit longer so any undead would burn to death. I open the security doors(the iron ones), and then open the wooden entrance doors, I turn around to close the door behind me, and see a creeper on my right. :o

Apparently he was standing right up against the doors. I quickly slam my diamond blade into his face, while running backwards.

SSSSSS *BOOOOM!*

Luckily I took no damage, and despite my initial worry, the damage was mostly to the sand. Only thing I really lost was about 4 blocks of glass, 2-3 torches, and a sign board.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/Tetsou88/javaw2011-01-0319-38-52-01.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/Tetsou88/javaw2011-01-0319-38-46-77.jpg

[Dowly]

Minecraft voted as PC Gamer UK's game of the year. :up:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/12/31/pc-gamer-uks-game-of-the-year/

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And now for those who say diamonds are hard to get. How exactly are you digging them?

Here's what I do and I find quite a few diamonds: Dig to bedrock, back up 5-15 levels and start mining in 1x2 shafts with 2 blocks in-between. I get my diamonds this way and then you'll find caves while mining that usually has diamonds. Just be careful not to get soaked in lava. :O:

[NeonSamurai]

Been there, done that. Still very rare, and no where near enough to replace what you use, not by a long shot (heck you are not at even at replacement level when only digging for diamond, using diamond tools).

Don't forget a lot of you did your major building when you could still do the tool drop exploit, and as a result have a ton of diamond (especially with that duping bug), and a much easier time building your projects.

Also Spike how many of those tools are from the duping bug? Plus with what I am trying to build, those tools would last about 2 days maybe.


Anyhow I don't think any of us are suggesting this be a creative server, we just want the fast tools to last so we don't waste as much time gathering resources, which is tedious enough as it is. Basically as things were before with that exploit.

Lastly those mods generally do not need to be updated with every version release, look at the update logs for them.

[Spike88]

Also Spike how many of those tools are from the duping bug? Plus with what I am trying to build, those tools would last about 2 days maybe.



Whatever isn't in my personal inventory is a duplicate. :haha:

My connection problems created them.

[Kapitän Schneider]

Zirran is Kapitän Schneider.

Dunno who Gordon is. Probably Gordon Freeman...who could come in useful against the SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs hordes...

We want Gordon!

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/Gordon_The_Gopher_431x300.jpg

I only say it to see if anyone is online. It comes from one of the messages you would see on the title screen of Minecraft before it went Beta.

[Oberon]

No Edd?

http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/images/encyclopediaimages/e/ed/edd_the_duck.jpg

:03:

[Krauter]

For those of you doing huge projects or projects based on realistic buildings, are there any programs you use to help make dimensions, etc?

I am wanting to make the Oratoire de St-Joseph instead of a generic castle on my island and was wondering if there was anything Icould use to make it realistic in dimensions and aesthetics.

For those of you who don't know what it is..:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Joseph%27s_Oratory

http://www.saint-joseph.org/

http://photo-reverse.com/saint-josephs-oratory/

I live a few blocks down and like the look of it. And, as the current beginnings of my castle look a little gamey, I figured a real building would look better.

Cheers!

Krauter

[Oberon]

1 block equals approx 1m by 1m by 1m.

When I was building the Crystal Palace, I used Google Earth to get the rough dimensions of the base and worked from that. Since your choice of object didn't burn down in 1936, you can get a better idea of height through existing measurements. :yep:

[Nagy]

There's a program out there called something like voxeliser that converts a variety of 3d model formats into blocks which then gives you your Minecraft template. I forgot to bookmark it when I was linked to it, but I might go hunting for it again.

-Edit-

I've been doing my best to keep the minecarts running on time, but a lot of the repairs are coming from my own resources, which means I have to spend some time down t' pit. I'm also currently trying to build a line to plug space mountain into the main network and create the world's first Rapid Ferret Transport System.

Following that I've got to add boosters to the DLR in both directions, add a spur to Drewcifer's place, and then dig a tunnel to Zirran's with nothing but stone pickaxes and my bare hands.

If you notice a place where mobs are getting onto the tracks please feel free to improve the fences or dump some spare dirt to make the wall a bit higher. If track is damaged Arc doesn't mind Ops using their powers to give you spare track, as long as it's for the railway. If you don't want to do any of that at least dump a marker so when I do a quick sweep of the line I can see that something needs doing.

[Lionclaw]

I used google to find info about the dimensions of my current project, Olympieion/Temple of Olympian Zeus. Found some pictures of a 3D model to approximate the height of the main doorway.

It was quite difficult to find the dimensions since there seems to be another temple with a similar name, so it was a bit confusing. :-?

After finding out the dimensions I used one of the png maps Arclight had posted to find a suitable spot, and on the map, 1 pixel is one block.
So I made a hollow square in the dimensions of the building in GIMP to make it easier to see what the best location would be.

I used a reference when choosing a spot, a couple of flowers. I then placed torches to mark that square in Minecraft, quite a lot of torches. I placed a torch every 10 steps from one end to the other to mark the dimension of the sides.

Then it was all about terraforming, I had to fill a shallow lake and level some hills to make it level, but after some time and quite a lot of dirt it was levelled. :doh:

I followed the floorplan of the building to mark the locations of the columns and the rooms, I had to adjust several times to get the number of columns as close as possible to what the real thing had. It had 104, my reproduction of it has 100. Minecraft isn't perfect. I build as close as I can to 1:1 scale.


I use this site to convert units.
http://www.onlineconversion.com/

[Krauter]

Cheers! Thanks a lot.

Krauter

[Nagy]

Found the program it's called binvox. Good tutorial here http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=55910&sid=74108989927e4f19035d662657175693

[Krauter]

Where do many of you get your online models for buildings?

[Krauter]

Also, and sorry for the double post, I think I'm going to copy.. ahem.. borrow, an idea of ASW Helix; that is, have an underground tree farm (and possibly even a wheat farm) to make it easier to mine at deep depths (ie: I don't need to return to the surface to chop wood to make pick handles.

Also, by mining long 3x3 tunnels, with 1 (wide)x3(deep)x2 (high) alleys branching off every other brick, I've gathered.. 4 Gold, 7 Iron and 25 Coal.. I need a better strategy. I've tried this at bedrock (well 2-3 bricks above bedrock.. so my floor is always level) as well as 9 levels above. No diamond though..

[NeonSamurai]

I personally mine 1x3 (width x height), with a 2-3 block spacing. looking something like this

#=Rock _=mined out

##_##_##
##_##_##
##_##_##
##_##_##
_________

Also the effort of making an underground wood farm frankly isn't worth the effort. Just gather a pile of wood on the surface and put it in a chest (unprocessed) down in your mine. Diamond is also damn rare. Ive moved a tone of rock and earth (enough to fill 4 double chests) and only found about 20 diamonds, and that was in the lava zone about 5 up from the start of bedrock.

[Krauter]

I messed it up and mined:

X-X-X
X-X-X
X-X-X

But right now I just have 4x9x1 (number of rowsxlengthxwidth)

Its not too bad, its finished now, just planted and waiting for them to grow.

0 Diamonds :nope:

[Jankowski]

is there a way to tell yet if someone is being a stealer? (stealing stuff from chests)

I shall be getting minecraft soon!

[Crécy]

is there a way to tell yet if someone is being a stealer? (stealing stuff from chests)


No, unless you caught him in action.

[Jankowski]

what about griefers?

[Dowly]

We don't have griefers. ;)

[Lionclaw]

My method for filling the inside of the roof to prevent spawning.
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7462/minecraftonline05.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/minecraftonline05.jpg/)


Interesting view of my mine due to a temporary chunk error.
http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/8186/minecraftonline06.jpg (http://img573.imageshack.us/i/minecraftonline06.jpg/)

[NeonSamurai]

You mine very strangely lion :DL, but i have seen that very chunk error myself while going down the rail line.

Btw i think the track area just south of nub station still needs some minor repairs (track, and a bit of gravel & fences) due to a creeper leaping down from above.

Once some of my projects are done i may see about securing the lines better with some fencing.

[Krauter]

Where do many of you get your online models for buildings?

Mainly historical ones

[Nagy]

You mine very strangely lion :DL, but i have seen that very chunk error myself while going down the rail line.

Btw i think the track area just south of nub station still needs some minor repairs (track, and a bit of gravel & fences) due to a creeper leaping down from above.

Once some of my projects are done i may see about securing the lines better with some fencing.

There is a problem with fences. We see them as 1 1/2 blocks high and cannot jump over them. The server sees them as 1 block high. That's why we get stuck on them. But that means that stuff can leap over them. The best method I've found so far is to use dirt blocks to make sure that the fence is placed 1 higher than the ground outside the rail line. You also need to make sure that you use the trick for stacking fence posts where they drop down a level, otherwise they sneak over that corner.

I can't see any track damage but I've shored up the fences there. I'm going to lay the blame for that and the damage to the station building squarely on the person who is levelling that mountain without providing light or fences for the public area. I've now fenced around the station again, and I hope whoever is doing the levelling will use those fence panels to create a fence when they're finished.

Frankly there was no excuse for not fencing it because just the other side of the fort by the tree farm is a chest full of free wood and a crafting bench. Wouldn't have cost a thing.

[NeonSamurai]

I haven't seen mobs jump the fences (I've seen them try and get stuck though) as long as the fence is built on the same level. Otherwise you need a 2 block gap from the fence and higher objects.

In that case the creaper fell from above and cleared the fence as it was right beside a cliff face.

[Nagy]

I've repaired the damage at Fort Newby.

I also see that the spare minecart chest has been so popular that it has been emptied and somebody was forced to steal the booster cart again.

Can I remind you to please replace the cart you've taken at the earliest opportunity, and not to take the carts from the boosters, they're there for a reason.

I will supply some more free carts as soon as I've walked back to my mine.

[Jankowski]

Thanks for the warm welcome guys!

I have heard of some minor griefing damage lately. just hope its nothing too severe!

[Jankowski]

something is up with the spawning points.

[Nagy]

*sighs*

Looks like we've had another map slip. The Spawn has moved again and is now in the water West of Fort Newby. Oberon might be able to extend the fort in that direction.

On the plus side it means the newby chests are accessible again.

This probably explains Crecy's permanent chunk error. Everybody needs to check their projects for similar.

New Map time anyone?

-edit-

That location was provided by Zirran. I just tested it and the spawn is now on a small bit of sand outside Spud's castle.

-Edit the second-

I've found the extent of the unbuildable area surrounding the spawn, I've put a low wall around the edge so that anybody who can actually build on the spawn can begin construction of a new spawn fort. It's not far from Stratford station so it'll still be well connected for rail. Unfortunately I can't light it at the moment (can't place anything in that area) so try not to die at night.

[Krauter]

What do you mean by an unbuildable area? In that you cannot destroy nor place any blocks or..?

Also, I was mining around last night and broke into a huge cavern. Noticed mossy cobblestone and thought nothing of it. Then I read about 'monster dungeons' Does this mean I have a dungeon above the cave (it was poking out of a wall..)?

Edit: I also took a minecart, but believe I placed it back in the chest, otherwise I just disconnected still in that station

[Nagy]

Yeah, you'll have a dungeon up there. put torches around the blue cage to stop the monsters from spawning.

http://subsim.com/radioroom/[IMG]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/keab42/Screenshots/mapslipagain.pnghttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/keab42/Screenshots/mapslipagain.png

Spawn isn't quite where I thought it was. Stratford is at the bottom of that image. Looks like it's drifted West quite a way though.

Hopefully it won't drift any further. But check your projects. Last time we had bits of mountain moving around and large holes appearing where there used to be structures. Canning Town station vanished completely IIRC.

[Oberon]

"Mr Nagy...dispatch a subspace message to Admiral Arclight, we have engaged the Borg."

[Spike88]

"Mr Nagy...dispatch a subspace message to Admiral Arclight, we have engaged the Borg."

We are the Borg. Lower your diamond picks and surrender your rare ores. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.





Edit: When the hell are we getting the slip in Multiplayer? He's already thinking of paint/water monsters, but MP is still left behind. Unless I missed something, and it's already been added.

I would like to make a giant borg cube out of hell material.

[Oberon]

I would like to make a giant borg cube out of hell material.

I've been considering making one out of Obsidian... :yep:

By the way, if there's no objections, I would like to nominate making Nagy (Keab42) an op. :up:

[Spike88]

I've been considering making one out of Obsidian... :yep:

By the way, if there's no objections, I would like to nominate making Nagy (Keab42) an op. :up:


I concur. *Concur with Nagy*

Obsidian seems like it would be hard work, although I guess I could make an obsidian farm.


This brings up a question, are we allowed to spawn lava(especially since it's the only way to get flat lava), water, and TNT still, or are these now off limits since we can get them from the environment.

[Dowly]

By the way, if there's no objections, I would like to nominate making Nagy (Keab42) an op. :up:

Gets my vote. :yeah:

This brings up a question, are we allowed to spawn lava(especially since it's the only way to get flat lava), water, and TNT still, or are these now off limits since we can get them from the environment.

Don't think we are, besides there's no need to spawn it. I got 3 different lava lakes down in my mine that I have secured, so I can get a inventory full of buckets and go fetch it into my Obsidian molds. ;)

[Oberon]

Pretty sure they're off limits. :yep:

[Krauter]

Is there a way to make an effective monster trap without killing myself making it?

[Dowly]

Is there a way to make an effective monster trap without killing myself making it?

Light the area well. :O:

Or if you're building it around a mob spawner, place torch in all four corners of the spawner, that prevents it from spawning.

[Spike88]

I guess TNT should be off limits now that we can make our own.

My question for lava and water is more for cosmetic reasons. You can't really have flat bodies of it using bucket lava/water.

[Dowly]

My question for lava and water is more for cosmetic reasons. You can't really have flat bodies of it using bucket lava/water.

Flat? As in non-flowing?

[Spike88]

Flat? As in non-flowing?

Yeah. That.

[Dowly]

Hmm... you can make non-flowing pools with buckets. :yep:

[NeonSamurai]

You gotta dump a bucket on each and every square for it not to flow

[Dowly]

You gotta dump a bucket on each and every square for it not to flow

Pretty much yeh. Think every other block works for water. :hmmm:

[Spike88]

Hmm... you can make non-flowing pools with buckets. :yep:

Odd, I was under the impression buckets always created springs, which were always flowing.

[Dowly]

Odd, I was under the impression buckets always created springs, which were always flowing.

Spring blocks turn into normal blocks if there's enough of them nearby. Kinda evens the "forces" of the flow, you know. ;)

[Nagy]

Every other block also works with Lava if you're careful about it.

Go take a look at the lava streams in the floor of my Dome. I messed up in a couple of spots but mostly I got it right.

[Krauter]

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1455/20110106154438.png

Kind of a small issue while making my under water tunnel.. how do I fix this? I'm thinking it's because the end blocks (where im standing) still reach the surface

[NeonSamurai]

Fill it in with earth or sand to one level below water. then use buckets to fill in the water so the water does not flow, then dig it out. you will need to fill in everywhere there is flowing water with earth/sand.

Also every other block does not work with lava, you cannot generate lava springs like you can with water. Water will generate new springs( ie standing water) if it is placed with a 1 block gap beside another water spring. It will fill in and form a spring between, you can use this trick to fill in two directions simultaneously as it will form new springs as it goes along.

Lastly, you cannot flood fill any area that is deeper than 1 block, or it will not fill in right, you need to flood to depth 1 then dig out, or build underwater.

[Dowly]

:har::har:
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/onfire.jpg

[Krauter]

Hitting some bad lag right now..

:har: I meant to put it out :oops:

[Krauter]

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4563/20110106234335.png

Shaping up nicely.. pain in the arse to do.. I eventually want to widen the tunnel where it branches out to a complete square common room with a glass tower rising out of the center of the lake.. with a little surprise touch.

Comments Suggestions?

[Krauter]

:har::har:
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/onfire.jpg

And to set things straight..

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6910/20110106235107.png

Edit: Sorry for double post

[Jankowski]

something happened to the tree farm..................

also, i heard about some sign that said "griefers gonna Grief" did any of you guys put it up?

[Kapitän Schneider]

Who wants to read what the Griefer has recently done?

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/Brandenburger7/2011-01-07_135535.png

How about this one for illeteracy!

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/Brandenburger7/2011-01-07_135541.png

There is also damage to my mine, to Fort Newbie, several other little pieces of damage here and there. And the Tree Farm also managed to catch fire.

[Oberon]

I wondered when this sort of thing would start happening...

[Dowly]

There's cure for it.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/Ban_hammer_by_dirtbiker715.jpg

[Crécy]

At least there is few new players which are suspicious. Summon the gestapo!

[Nagy]

I logged into the "Player" account, the inventory shows no lighter so no easy way of setting the tree farm alight.

So whoever has been using that isn't the griefer, it's just somebody who hasn't brought the game... :shifty:

I know Zirran has a suspect, but we've no firm proof.

[Spike88]

Player doesn't seem to be doing anything hazardous(yet).

[Task Force]

That SOB messes with my s***, and im gonna kill his virtual ass, and keep doing it till my swoard, and aarow supply runs out.

[Krauter]

Who wants to read what the Griefer has recently done?

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/Brandenburger7/2011-01-07_135535.png

How about this one for illeteracy!

pic

Stupidity at its best (worst?). :nope:

Who is 'Player'? Has he joined within the last day because I have never seen him online :06:

[Oberon]

Player is Zimen who is Maverik010s RL friend, I believe he does not have a Subsim account.

[Krauter]

Aah, and has anyone spoken to either of the two?

[Krauter]

Check out a new feature to the water hall,

I've figured out how to make stable water walls that won't flow over into the hall!

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5006/20110107192544.png

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5944/20110107192547.png

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1081/20110107192551.png

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6677/20110107192557.png

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9130/20110107192602.png

Cheers!

Sorry about the large amount of pictures

Edit: Arc, have you changed anything with the server lately.

Before I never used to crash, now I'm getting 4-5 game freezes every 2 hours.. game crashes, stutters, etc. Used to have no problem.. now its just annoying

[Jankowski]

as soon as I got to the burning tree farm, I noticed some of the sand around the lava mote burning, and also that the lava wasnt still (was flowing in one direction)

[Krauter]

Well.. I'm done on this server until the stability issues are cured.. crashing and freezing every 10-15 minutes now..

[Spike88]

Well.. I'm done on this server until the stability issues are cured.. crashing and freezing every 10-15 minutes now..

Odd, seems to be localized. I'm not getting these issues.

[Krauter]

I've only been getting it the past few days.. not sure what's up though.

[Arclight]

Not the server's fault, as far as I can tell.

Might be related to the excessive fires again though.

[Dowly]

I'm getting rather bad lag 90% of the time aswell. Bad as in 10-15 seconds before my text shows. :doh:

Which brings me to Zimen and his constant "You having lag on the server? :P" questions. :hmmm: Obie and I talked to him yesterday and he didn't really know how Maverik found the server (or is he from subsim??).

Maybe swing the ban hammer on them unless someone steps forth and sheds some light on who they are? :arrgh!:

[Jankowski]

Zimen and Maverick? are they unknown people? I havnt seen them online at all.

However, I did meet a new player online today, called rhys42 or something like that.

[Arclight]

Rhys202... thought he was a friend of yours, traces to Australia as well. :hmmm:

[Nagy]

Well Zimen doesn't own Minecraft. That's why he using Player; it's a generic account for when yours isn't verified by the MC servers when you log in.

[Arclight]

Weren't those accounts numbered?

* and he has logged in as Zimen before, so why would he use that account?

[Jankowski]

Guys, what is happening?

suddenly you are all talking about me like im a murder! this player guy claims I killed him, then some others are talking about me and grand chest auto. something about glass breaking and something like that.

I dont trust this player guy. Yes, I did have a diamond sword which I found on the ground, but im lagging so much now that I didnt even notice.

DUDE its my second day at minecraft! Im staying away from it for a bit now.

[Kapitän Schneider]

Lionclaw i'm so sorry but your entrance to your mine has been destroyed and your chests raided.

[Arclight]

Guys, what is happening?

suddenly you are all talking about me like im a murder! this player guy claims I killed him, then some others are talking about me and grand chest auto. something about glass breaking and something like that.

I dont trust this player guy. Yes, I did have a diamond sword which I found on the ground, but im lagging so much now that I didnt even notice.

DUDE its my second day at minecraft! Im staying away from it for a bit now.

Management is trying to resolve an issue.

Since it gets a little messy with the chat in-game, let's just recap the issue here: Player/Zimen claims you've killed him twice and Zirran claims he saw you destroy someone else's property.

I'd much like to hear your side of it.

* both sides actually. Can we just recap here what prompted this, from anyone involved?

[Lionclaw]

Lionclaw i'm so sorry but your entrance to your mine has been destroyed and your chests raided.

Yeah, I saw it this morning. :nope: :-? :damn:

I emptied the chests of the goodies before I logged out yesteday, diamonds, coal and steel and my diamond tools.
And good thing I had the smooth stone on me, since that chest was destroyed/stolen.

I removed the signs above the chests as well.

So the saboteur/thief did not get the good stuff. :up:

And I repaired the entrance.


EDIT; Or has it been redestroyed?

[Kapitän Schneider]

I was looking around to find damaged course by the latest Griefer attack and I went into Neon's string trap to see if that had been damaged. I saw SovietDuck (Jankowski) looking in a chest and then he turned round and started smashing the glass wall. I reacted by killing him to stop him causing further damage to Neon's trap. I immediatly typed on the chat that I had seen SovietDuck causing grief and Keab42 (Nagy) started trying to ask SovietDuck about what happend.

Management is trying to resolve an issue.

Since it gets a little messy with the chat in-game, let's just recap the issue here: Player/Zimen claims you've killed him twice and Zirran claims he saw you destroy someone else's property.

I'd much like to hear your side of it.

* both sides actually. Can we just recap here what prompted this, from anyone involved?

[Kapitän Schneider]

Yeah, I saw it this morning. :nope: :-? :damn:

I emptied the chests of the goodies before I logged out yesteday, diamonds, coal and steel and my diamond tools.
And good thing I had the smooth stone on me, since that chest was destroyed/stolen.

I removed the signs above the chests as well.

So the saboteur/thief did not get the good stuff. :up:

And I repaired the entrance.


When I got there today, the entrance had a lava trap behind it. I've blocked off the entrance again. Also a creeper caused some damage to the Parthenon, i've tried to repair it best I can but it requires some smooth stone to make it look nice again.

[Nagy]

Weren't those accounts numbered?

* and he has logged in as Zimen before, so why would he use that account?

That seems a bit weird.

Basically the way to access player is to run minecraft in offline mode, but then log onto the server anyway. It essentially gives you an anonymous account for griefing or it provides people with no minecraft login a way of getting onto the server. I'm not sure if you can prevent that account from being used though.

Jankowski I'm sorry for my attitude in the chat, but we do need to hear your side of the story.

[Lionclaw]

Well my place has been ransacked, chests gone and other stuff... This happened between 10.00 ish to 14.40. :nope: :damn:

:mad:

[Dowly]

Well my place has been ransacked, chests gone and other stuff... This happened between 10.00 ish to 14.40. :nope: :damn:

:mad:

Should be easy to see from the logs who it was, that is of course if no other new guys were on the server at the time.

[Arclight]

That seems a bit weird.

Basically the way to access player is to run minecraft in offline mode, but then log onto the server anyway. It essentially gives you an anonymous account for griefing or it provides people with no minecraft login a way of getting onto the server. I'm not sure if you can prevent that account from being used though.I'll be darned... still, I have stuff like this showing up:

[INFO] Player524 [/xx.xxx.xxx.xxxxx] logged in with entity id 1964354
2010-12-19 15:04:54
[INFO] Player524 lost connection: Quitting
2010-12-19 15:05:17
Prolly after failed login or something, rather than play offline. :S
Should be easy to see from the logs who it was, that is of course if no other new guys were on the server at the time.
Have you ever looked at the log files? :lol:

[Kapitän Schneider]

Well my place has been ransacked, chests gone and other stuff... This happened between 10.00 ish to 14.40. :nope: :damn:

:mad:


I came on just before 12pm GMT. There were 4 people on at that time, SovietDuck, Maverik, Rhys and Zimen.

[Spike88]

Well Zimen doesn't own Minecraft. That's why he using Player; it's a generic account for when yours isn't verified by the MC servers when you log in.


Minecraft requires you to log into an account once to play it in the offline mode.

Found this out last night when I installed MC on a friends PC.

[Dowly]

Minecraft requires you to log into an account once to play it in the offline mode.

Found this out last night when I installed MC on a friends PC.

You are wrong.:timeout:

All you have to do is give invalid login info and you get a screen saying "Can't connect to minecraft.net" with a 'play offline' button.

[Spike88]

You are wrong.:timeout:

All you have to do is give invalid login info and you get a screen saying "Can't connect to minecraft.net" with a 'play offline' button.


I guess I should've tried that. :haha:

I left everything blank, and it told me I needed to log in once to get offline mode.

[Spike88]

Some interesting chunk error shots:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/Tetsou88/javaw2011-01-0812-33-30-26.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/Tetsou88/javaw2011-01-0812-33-38-34.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/Tetsou88/javaw2011-01-0812-33-46-58.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/Tetsou88/javaw2011-01-0812-34-19-99.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/Tetsou88/javaw2011-01-0812-35-35-33.jpg

[Jankowski]

Well i did break the string trap because i didnt know what it was and how it worked and i
Wanted to get a good look at it.

And also, you got to remember that it was only my 3rd day on mc. This mine flooded with
Lava i have no idea what the hell that was.

[Krauter]

I saw ban the four of them until someone steps forward and admits it. If they don't care to admit it, then they don't care, or deserve for that matter, to play on the server.

Edit:

If you don't know what something is, then ask, especially if someone is in the vicinity then they can show you. As for the it's my 3rd/2nd/1st/however many days here, that means squat to me. It doesn't matter how many days you're in a server, griefers are still going to grief regardless of their time spent there. To me, the only people who's time spent here is important, are those who spent that time building, renovating, etc. In essence, the griefer, should they be there for 1, 2, 3 days, are effectively using those days to undo the weeks and months worth of work others have put into the server.

Just my two cents.

[Krauter]

Yea Arc, not sure what's causing it but its the first 10 minutes I start I crash twice and then I'm good for 30 minutes. Tried MC on SP and it's fine.. Internet connection is also fine.

Also, Lionclaw, you have an interloper living beneath the Parthenon you may want to check out..

Edit: Who's underwater base/mine thing is right by spawn.. dont flood the area plz..
Posting pics of suspected griefer things, as well as Lions interloper in a second..

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2033/20110108232648.png

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1998/20110108232659.png

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9946/20110108232713.png

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9338/20110108233321.png

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8196/20110108233357.png

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2876/20110108233806.png

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5108/20110108233842.png

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/7260/20110108233904.png

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3122/20110108233911.png

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9494/20110108234003.png

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9739/20110108234032.png

Sorry for the large amount of pictures.. but seriously.. wtf! Does no one have common sense?

[NeonSamurai]

Well i did break the string trap because i didnt know what it was and how it worked and i
Wanted to get a good look at it.

And also, you got to remember that it was only my 3rd day on mc. This mine flooded with
Lava i have no idea what the hell that was.

You broke some glass, ironically if you had gone 2 blocks further you would have seen an opening which would have let you in. But not a huge deal. Someone also for some unknown reason stole the chest I left with some extra string for people to have.

My advise, assuming you are not the griefer in question, is to find your own territory and start building. If you do not know how to play, try playing offline first and read the minecraft wiki. Furthermore if an area is built on (torches are a good sign, or man made stuff) I strongly suggest not touching anything, or doing any building there.

[Krauter]

My advise, assuming you are not the griefer in question, is to find your own territory and start building. If you do not know how to play, try playing offline first and read the minecraft wiki. Furthermore if an area is built on (torches are a good sign, or man made stuff) I strongly suggest not touching anything, or doing any building there.

Apparently some people assume underground is good enough :shifty:..

Building underneath the bloody Parthenon for hell's sake!.. and he has the gall to say he'll stay there until the real owner says he doesn't want him there..

I'm gonna go bang my head on the wall till I understand these people :damn:

Edit: What Mod utility do you guys use? I'm currently using Minecrafter.. but I'm thinking of switching to ModLoader beta for a few of the other mods that depend on it (mainly moreMobs).

[Task Force]

It would appear someone has messed with my bunkers, And Took out a block to get into it... wounder who that could have been...

And that same someone was too lazy to close the door to get out...

I'm 99% sure I know who you are, you stupid little troll.

*oah, and you should have finished with my trail, you left chunks.

[NeonSamurai]

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/36/192011122817am.png

[Jankowski]

sorry neonsamurai, ill help to fix up the damage. the combination of intensive lag and vodka had started to get to me.

the hole in the bridge ( my bridge over the frozen lake) was most likely caused by a creeper. itll be easy enough to fix. someone is breaking through the railway fences and not putting them back. most of the minecarts from the boosters are also missing. I saw player putting down the water on top of frozen lake. now why would he do that? lets make an effort to keep this server looking nice.


sorry for all the crazy things I did, wont happen again.

[Jankowski]

Taskforce, who do you think it is?

Also, the hole in the mountain I think was made yesterday

[Krauter]

Tired of hearing how people aren't being responsible, either under the influence of alcohol or without it. Look at Dowly, he's (almost) perfectly sane whether he's drunk or not.

Take goddam responsibility for your actions, or be smart enough not to commit the act like that again.

[NeonSamurai]

Don't worry I already patched up the damage to the trap, which was inconsequential. I also do not especially care about the missing chest.

[Krauter]

Can we just bring the ban hammer down on this rys guy for being a git?

[Task Force]

Yea, but has that fixed the damage to my place? Now I have to waste stuff that was for the rest of my project on the stuff "THEY" have done.

Oah, and greifer, can you replace my steel door.

[Krauter]

:salute:

To any griefers.

GTFO

[Arclight]

...

However, I did meet a new player online today, called rhys42 or something like that.

[INFO] <Rhys202> I will later. When my friend comes on to help me.
2011-01-09 07:08:05
[INFO] <Neon_Samurai> and avoid building in claimed territory
2011-01-09 07:08:14
[INFO] <Krauts> who is your friend?
2011-01-09 07:08:22
[INFO] <Rhys202> Soviet. :l
2011-01-09 07:08:25

So I take it you do know each other then?

Well i did break the string trap because i didnt know what it was and how it worked and i
Wanted to get a good look at it.
Baloney. You don't break someone else's work, ever. Not 1 block.

And that applies to yer mate as well: digging through someone else's floor is not acceptible.


You two, out.

[Drewcifer]

Thank you Arc for a prompt and just response. Rhys clearly violated the no fly zone. lol.

[Krauter]

Cheers! Elco, Task Force and I kind of cleared the place out, all of the chests he had in there are now in the main hall of the Parthenon. All visible damage we could see was fixed as well.

Thank you Arc.

[Task Force]

yep, and Dimonds, dont forget dimonds.:DL

[Arclight]

While I appreciate the fact this community stands up for itself, let's try to keep the lynchings to a minimum, alright? ;)

[Task Force]

awww.... I was planning a weekly one.:wah:

[Krauter]

I'll have some chickens delivered daily to your fort Task Force :D

Look at me, now back to the griefer, now back to me, the griefer is now DIAMONDS. :yeah:

[Task Force]

I'll have some chickens delivered daily to your fort Task Force :D

Look at me, now back to the griefer, now back to me, the griefer is now DIAMONDS. :yeah:

But they dont complain like he did.:cry:

[Jankowski]

wow, you kicked me. even after I said sorry.

[Arclight]

Is that really all you have to say after I asked for your side of the story and everybody is out to lynch you? :06:

[Jankowski]

well, I would have, but my list of crimes is:

broken 2 pieces of glass
stolen an empty chest
killed player once

[Arclight]

Server address will change. This goes into effect tomorrow, Monday, around noon. Address is only to be provided through private channels to accepted members, which are all known members at this point in time and any new players anounced by me in this thread.

* I suggest our regulars send a PM to me or any OP. As for me I'll send a PM to every member that contacted me tomorrow when I change the address.

** OPs would be Oberon, Dowly, Spike88 and Nagy (welcome btw :salute:)

Each new player has to be cleared through me. That means private contact through PM on SS or any other channel available. For guests, the introducing member gets the clearance. Also, they are responsible for their guests, meaning that any penalty applied to guests may well be applied to the member as well. Any cleared players will be anounced by me in this thread.

Anonymous player account is disabled. I've already requested Zimen to use his legit account, which he confirmed he has.


Sorry for the Nazi politics, but like I said before this is not a democracy. I'd rather not have gotten to this point, but the actions of 1 or 2 individuals have forced my hand.

[Arclight]

well, I would have, but my list of crimes is:

broken 2 pieces of glass
stolen an empty chest
killed player once
That's enough to ban you 4 times over as far as I'm concerned.

[Jankowski]

second chance?

[Arclight]

You remind me of someone. :lol:


Not right now, thanks.

[Jankowski]

who?

how long until a second chance?

[Arclight]

Had another player while back. General destruction and mayhem, alcohol involved, second chance etc.

I dunno how long. People are pretty upset and some things are going to change regarding policy, so it'll take a bit for things to settle down.

[Jankowski]

I heard the server was restarting anyway. I will wait some time now.

did anyone actually find out who maverick was?

also I heard you forcefully evicted rhys202 by killing him multiple times and stealing his stuff.

[Arclight]

Erm, the lynching... Ya, not me personally, but it had come to a civil revolt, yes.

[Jankowski]

simply for living underneath the carthoterium (cant spell it lol)?

but why? you could have just taken his stuff and left it outside his house (or cave, or whatever)

everyone I asked about that said they themselves where not involved personally.

I have a feeling you people want to have an open and shut case, and at the end everyone will be happy. that's not going to happen (or it might because of the new server)

[Arclight]

Huh?

You destroyed something, he destroyed something; that's where my thinking process, as admin, ends.

Also, "you people"?. In the end it's me that has the final word. If you need to target someone, you can target me, not the community on the server.



Honestly, the whole thing is moot though. If it comes to a point where an OP or I have to step in, it's already far beyond acceptable behaviour. People were bloody rioting.

And the matter is far from closed.

(not sure what you're refering to with "new server")

[Jankowski]

I heard that the server was restarting.

Sure peaple were getting restless, but i wouldnt call it rioting.

I am pretty sure there is another griefer, the one who was putting up rude signs, and breaking into some guys mine.

But really, does the council kill the local hobo who lives under the bridge that they built?

[Arclight]

But really, does the council kill the local hobo who lives under the bridge that they built?
No, not unless he dug his way there through the bridge... and it was a slightly medieval council.

When someone develops a tumor, do they cut away the abnormality, or the patient?

[Oberon]

At the end of the day, it's Arclights server, he pays the electricity bill for it, he fixes it when it breaks down, therefore it's Arclights decision who uses the server, not yours. If Arclight brings down the ban hammer, it's end of.

[Jankowski]

Yes it is arclights decision, im just saying that it was rather slack to kill that nooblet.

[Spike88]

I heard that the server was restarting.



You keep bringing this up. What does this have to do with anything?

The only time it is acceptable to break anything that is not yours(without permission), is when you're playing the map in single player. The singleplayer map is usually given out after a new map has been started.

Just because Arc says "We're restarting a new map in 10 minutes." Doesn't give you the right to go on a rampage of destruction(on other people's property, if you want to destroy your own, go right ahead.)

[Oberon]

Yes it is arclights decision, im just saying that it was rather slack to kill that nooblet.

Well, that's what happens when paranoia takes over, lynch mobs form. That's why this has been done, to quell paranoia and take action.

[Jankowski]

God. Spike88, you have no idea what actually happened.

The one and only time i broke something was at the string trap. I didnt go on a rampage after the new server was declared, i was kickrd forunknown reasons.

[Dowly]

Jankowski, I personally would've kicked you the moment it came to light that you actually know rhys opposed to what you had told us before. :shifty:

[Dowly]

:arrgh!:
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/MC_Reaper2.jpg

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/MC_Reaper1.jpg

[Lionclaw]

Awesome! :yeah: :rock:

[Krauter]

Edit: What Mod utility do you guys use? I'm currently using Minecrafter.. but I'm thinking of switching to ModLoader beta for a few of the other mods that depend on it (mainly moreMobs).

Bump

Awesome build Dowly :|\\

Also, can we put this griefer thing to rest now? Hopefully with the new IP and such it will not happen again. And if it does, well, I'm sure Task Force will be more then happy to lynch a complaining victim :D

Cheers,

Krauter

Edit: Anyone getting extremely bad lag? Taking like 30 seconds for my msgs to show up/

[Task Force]

Send more trolls. They are alot more fun than mobs, or animals, as they complain.:|\\

[Nagy]

Very nice artwork Dowly

[Oberon]

That is epic Dowly, I look forward to seeing it at the end of my long journey. :yep:

[Jankowski]

the reason I told you that i didn't know him was that I wouldnt be responsible for his actions.

[Krauter]

So lying to us was going to make us trust you?

I don't really hold you accountable for his actions, I hold you accountable for your own..

[Task Force]

Also, why didnt you message arclight that he may cause problems? What your doing is trying to put the blame on him, kinda like what he was doing yesterday.

[Jankowski]

I didnt think that he would do something as crazy as build a house underneath the partheron.

[Krauter]

And I didn't think a member of this community would be crazy enough to disrespect others, lie, cause grief and put blame on another person for their own actions.

Guess things don't always seem to be as they appear. :nope:

[Oberon]

Next time someone is near Fort Newby, could they go up the observation tower and take down the signs that the Idiot griefer defaced? Just noticed them on the map. I'd do it but I'm miles away from Fort Newby heading for Dowlys place.

[Krauter]

Yeap, Ill fix it, what would you like put on :s?

[Task Force]

Faggots are gonna be MFin Faggots, I got it.

[Spike88]

Yeap, Ill fix it, what would you like put on :s?


I believe they used to list the direction you're facing.

[Krauter]

Yea, It's been fixed.

[Drewcifer]

lol... Sorry I was late to the party I haven't been on since we lynched the guy with our crazed riot. Dowly your an artist. Excellent reaper!

Arc on a side note I completely agree on having a list of accepted players, and full on nazi politics. After what happened its clearly the step that needs to be taken. Plus its your server.. so unlike the nazi's you WILL win the war. haha.

[Dowly]

Maybe an explanation to our lag problem:

Although I don't have a solution for you. I would like to point out that Notch has told us not to get too attached to our Worlds after the Halloween updates. I've had to throw away an SMP World which I was using due to (what seemed like) unstable chunks where the game would lag horribly until you left the bad chunk.

From:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=130388

[Spike88]

God. Spike88, you have no idea what actually happened.

The one and only time i broke something was at the string trap. I didnt go on a rampage after the new server was declared, i was kickrd forunknown reasons.


I've heard the stories. So I'm pretty confident in my knowledge of the events that transpired.

My mention of rampaging was hypothetical, I wasn't saying you did so, I was just saying that you're excuse of "I heard there was going to be a new map soon" doesn't justify anything you did.

In terms of the destruction of the string trap, you say you did it to find out how it worked. Why not just ask? What you did is the equivalent of going into someones house, dismantling their grandfather clock to see what makes it work, and then leaving a mess of clock parts on the floor.

[Nagy]

Dowly. There is now an express line from the new spawn to Stratford, from there you can pick up the RFTS to Space Mountain. So getting back should be even quicker for you.

The express line is only one way. To return to the spawn do so via Bromley-by-bow (Fort Newby). The new spawn station has a chest full of carts for you.

With the new spawn connected into the network my attention is now turned toward making the DLR work so that Crecy and Kolaaja can get to and from their place with ease. As a part of that I'm going to add a small extension for Drewcifer. I've put up a sign where I'm going to run the line to for you mate. Please let me know if you'd rather it went somewhere else instead.

[Dowly]

Thanks, much appreciated. :up:

[Nagy]

DLR is done.

There's a new station where Drewcifer's line will split off, but I'll wait for Drewcifer to tell me where he'd like the line to end before I do that.

With no new lines to be built I'm going to make East Ham secure and then work down the line removing grass to stop livestock spawning and securing the fences to stop aerial creeper assaults.

[Krauter]

Would it be possible to improve the North Loop so it's traversible at all hours?

[ASWnut101]

I'm currently in that area, building an oil rig. Once I'm about done, I'll go ahead and start fencing/lighting the route.

P.S. Don't freak if you don't see my little pyramid thing. I tore it down today, but the underground parts remain.

[Arclight]

Right, I'll change the address tomorrow then. Little busy watching my life fall apart today. :shifty:

[ASWnut101]

Beware, the main line leaving West Ham is broken. Some creepers managed to get over the fence and onto the track while I was working in the area. Currently repairing the damage (to the best of my ability).

[Dowly]

Right, I'll change the address tomorrow then. Little busy watching my life fall apart today. :shifty:

That doesn't sound good. :-?

[ASWnut101]

Track repaired and open for business.

[Krauter]

Cheers mate, I'm thinking of making a rest stop on the north loop once you cross the bridge into arathi highlands.

Gee Arc, doesn't sound good.. Hope everything falls into place.

[Spike88]

I don't know how plausible it is(especially with Arc having real life problems), but I say we try a new map(saving the old one). If it fixes our lag problems and chunk errors we keep it.

If not, we go back to our current map.

[Arclight]

Address changed, messages have been sent.

[Krauter]

If I could make one suggestion for when it becomes available for SMP

Definately check out the Mo' Creatures Mod.:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=86929

Adds a lot of fun new creatures and depth with things such as birds, lions, wolves (at night, scared the crap out of me the first time) and werewolves (transform from human NPCs to Werewolves at night.. also scary).

But, the clincher for me, and the thing that would help us the most in my opinion, are the horses. They are controllable, and breedable. With this in mind, having troubled minecart tracks that lag the server could be remedied by simply building paths to follow with the horses (with one thats not even needed as it can fly!).

What do you think?

[Dowly]

Thing with mods is that we'd have to wait for them to be updated everytime a new version of MC is released.

[Krauter]

He seems to be on the ball with updates, and currently I'm using the version that's compatible with 1.102 and it's wat 1.126or something now?

Just a suggestion however :) I don't even think most mods work with SMP yet haha. Anyways, give it a shot on your single player games, it rocks :D

[NeonSamurai]

Just a quick note to say that I updated dowly's first post for the IP address. Feel free to modify it as you like.

[ASWnut101]

Hey, uh, anyone mind shooting me the address? I'm Elco, by the way.

[Task Force]

Yea, I need the Ip also.

[Spike88]

Hey, uh, anyone mind shooting me the address? I'm Elco, by the way.

Yea, I need the Ip also.


Sent your way(s).

[Drewcifer]

Also got left out of the loop, my steam account is Chaos_of_Retribution if you want to send it over that.

[Arclight]

Added you, but you'll need to accept first me thinks.

[Krauter]

Minecraft just hit 1 Million Copies Sold 2 hours ago :D

Way to go Notch!

[Dowly]

For that I shall put up a competition:

Who finds the ENTRANCE to my top seeekret base gets 10 diamonds.

Only if you find it alone and without breaking ANY blocks, you shall get the reward. ;)

EDIT: Ow, and it's not the mine in the ruins of my old base.

[Task Force]

GAA, and I just finished my walked back from your place...:damn:

[Dowly]

YOu know, the next time you do that, don't take anything of value with you. That way you can walk there, kill yourself and bang you're at the spawn. :O:

[Krauter]

Hey, who tore up the ground around the travel home I made near the North Loop?

Edited: Thanks for bringing me back to sense Dowly

[Dowly]

Jebus, don't be so hostile, I'm sure it was accident or misunderstanding or something.

[ASWnut101]

Oi, Krauts, that was me. Was up there messing with a railway (feel free to tear it down, 'twas a stupid idea), broke the walkway to avoid getting the place creeperized. Must have got side tracked and forgot to repair it, sorry! :oops:

[Krauter]

Its all good, was just kind of surprised when I saw it. I'll deposit the materials in your place when I dismantle it

[Krauter]

To Nagy, I took the RFTS just now, and my ride pooped out I don't know how far from Dowlys place.. Don't know if its supposed to do that but.. yeah. I had left at dawn and the moon had just risen, if that gives you a sense of how long I was on it for.

By the way, when you go down space mountain, where does the track to the right go? Mine went left.