Minecraft [see post #1 for MP server info]

[Pisces]

Explored it a bit which resulted in island hopping, never saw any "mainland". Just 1 small tree along the way.Confirmed, not much more than an archipelago

[Nagy]

Ah, I hadn't quite gotten as far as a boat yet. Maybe not great then...

[Pisces]

Well, ocean biomes are supposed to end somewhere too. You never know what's in the next chunk.

[Arclight]

True enough. Maybe have a fly about in creative mode and see how it develops. :hmmm:

Would make for a more challenging start.

[Task Force]

I flew over 1000 blocks away and am still in the middle of a ocean.

One problem I am seeing is the volcanoes spawn and fill with obsidian under the top lava.

Other than that It could be interesting to have creative on for the first day or so we could make platforms? I did that two maps ago and it was pretty interesting.

Have your platform over water, with a shaft down the center to get to your mine.

[Dowly]

^ Err.. how do you propose we get stuff like wood and other somewhat important
thingamalings if we are in the middle of an ocean? :O:

[Task Force]

^ Err.. how do you propose we get stuff like wood and other somewhat important
thingamalings if we are in the middle of an ocean? :O:

Get a supply of saplings the first day and use forestry/make a tree farm.

[Dowly]

Get a supply of saplings the first day and use forestry/make a tree farm.

Cacti? Wool? Food? Dyes? Bees? Sand (in large quantities)? etc etc. :hmmm:

[Task Force]

Farm, Wool farm, Farming, nether/farm/spawn in first day/good question, never used bees/ Oceans have sand under them.

Thing is, it depends you you want a map you have to actually try hard at and have to make due, or do you want a normal map (which I am tired of, plains, swamp, desert, what ever happened to those cool mountain biomes a few maps ago.) where everything you need is there you just have to look a bit.

(PS if we could find a map with a mountain biome in it id be happy with that too.)

[Krauter]

What are bees for?

Also, starting in an ocean biome actually sounds kind of cool. Makes it easier to get lost, and thus spread us out quite a bit. Only thing is, connecting each others areas will be difficult (if building underwater) or cumbersome (building over water/around land).

Anyways, I always did enjoy playing in Ocean Biomes because of one mod (can't remember the name, it's on my laptop). I believe they had it in IC2, but basically you built your craft (ie: Ship, out of materials, placed a controller block and controlled the craft via keyboard shortcuts (which worked only on the craft). This made travelling in a massive ship across vast oceans a lot funner then in your little.. erm. Wood.. thing.)

[Dowly]

What are bees for?

http://forestry.sengir.net/wiki/index.php?n=Category.Apiculture

Anyways, I always did enjoy playing in Ocean Biomes because of one mod (can't remember the name, it's on my laptop). I believe they had it in IC2, but basically you built your craft (ie: Ship, out of materials, placed a controller block and controlled the craft via keyboard shortcuts (which worked only on the craft). This made travelling in a massive ship across vast oceans a lot funner then in your little.. erm. Wood.. thing.)

Zeppelin mod or something like that.

[Task Force]

Hmm, mystcraft (http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/918541-125-mystcraft-09102/)I (http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/918541-125-mystcraft-09102/%29I) cant remember if it is SMP compatible, assuming it is we could have our main base in the Normal world and have our sub projects in myst worlds.

[Dowly]

Mystcraft's nice, used it for a long time in 1.2.5. :yep:

Not sure about SMP compatibility atm, but it's coming. The dev is taking part
in Direwolf20's SMP let's play (along with bunch of other mod authors) and they are
using a beta of it on their server.

I'm all for it, not sure if Arc is, tho. It's going to need some management as every
age is a whole new world and in SMP part of every world is loaded all the time,
so unused worlds would have to be deleted every once in a while. :yep:

BTW, Pahimar mentioned during one episode of the SMP thingy that Equivalent
Exchange 3 will be heavily balanced with IC, BC, RP and Forestry in mind. :up:

[Task Force]

Yeah Ive also been watching Dires lets play. (where I started thinking about asking about mystcraft.)

[Krauter]

Aah alright. Will someone do me a favor and log in? I was doing fine building. Logged off for a second, now whenever I login I can see just blackness in front of me (can see what I am holding though).

[Pisces]

LAND AHOY!!! -x -z about 1.2K blocks

[Pisces]

Arc, last map dump you asked for suggestions for mapping software. Keep this on your radar:

http://unmined.intro.hu/

Works pretty good for SSP. I guess SMP too. Next update should bring more options to customize block color. (and a world folder list :sunny:)

[Oberon]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/24/minecraft-contains-a-secret-mob-the-wither-boss/#more-121384

I'm not so fussed about the Wither or the Invisibility potion, but I do like the look of the frames, the corner stair and what looks like stone walls.

This I do like. :yep:

[Nagy]

I've been hoping for Corner stairs for so long!

[Arclight]

Indeed, no need to go berserk with a saw anymore.


Narko has expressed an interest in joining, Narkomans in-game, so I've send him the info.

[Task Force]

Was looking at some minecraft stuff today when I found this, though id drop it here.

Creeper airdrop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxj-BJNvLpU&feature=channel&list=UL

and Mining a block (made by the same guy, pretty cool so I figured id post it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHq3h0DmmQA&feature=relmfu

Guess I am gonna need some anti air guns on my next build :)

[Oberon]

I've been trying to warn people of the dangers of air dropped creepers for ages but no-one would believe me! :nope:

[Dowly]

The Feed the Beast mod pack might be a good idea to use once all the mods are
updated and the pack is released. :hmmm:

List of (possible) mods it'll include:
http://www.allsrequiem.com/SlowStreamImages/FTB_The_Modpack_Forum.png

The FTB is in pretty close ties with the mod authors, so it's more or less guaranteed
to work if installed correctly. :yep:

[Task Force]

The Feed the Beast mod pack might be a good idea to use once all the mods are
updated and the pack is released. :hmmm:

List of (possible) mods it'll include:
http://www.allsrequiem.com/SlowStreamImages/FTB_The_Modpack_Forum.png

The FTB is in pretty close ties with the mod authors, so it's more or less guaranteed
to work if installed correctly. :yep:

^^^
Task Force approves, a lot of mods I wanted on too.

[Pisces]

I presume it is Industrialcraft 2 that is in the pack. And not the first edition. It seems everything is in it that we used to have, and more.

I do hope we can dispense with the block-ID and item-ID customizations in the sever config files. It would be great if they were standardized.

[Spike88]

I presume it is Industrialcraft 2 that is in the pack. And not the first edition. It seems everything is in it that we used to have, and more.

I do hope we can dispense with the block-ID and item-ID customizations in the sever config files. It would be great if they were standardized.
IC1 was replaced by IC2, so it would be IC2 in this pack.


I personally would be for this pack.

[Dowly]

The FTB pack should be just download & install AFAIK, so unless we add more mods
there shouldn't be any need to fiddle around with the block-IDs.

And yes, that would be IC2.

[Oberon]

What's the updating process like? Will they release regular updates or do we have to update every single mod? :hmmm:

[Dowly]

What's the updating process like? Will they release regular updates or do we have to update every single mod? :hmmm:

That's a good question. :hmmm: I would think they update the whole pack once
there's enough updates for the invidual mods.

Direwolf20's saying the pack might be ready "early September", so guess we
find out soon enough.

EDIT: Actually, I think they are making a own launcher for it, which would be very handy.
I tried the Tekkit pack which also has it's own launcher and it automatically updates all the
necessary mods.

[Oberon]

Is Direwolf behind the modpack or just advertising it?

[Dowly]

Is Direwolf behind the modpack or just advertising it?

Just advertising it.

[Oberon]

Just advertising it.

A good choice, he does some fantastic stuff on mod packs. Definitely one to keep an eye on, although I wonder if it'll still fix our problem of player decay.

[Dowly]

Myeah, dunno. At least there's a bit more to do now with Thaumcraft being
included (hunt down artifacts & research them to build new TC stuff).

And logistics pipes for me. :O:

EDIT: Speaking of DW, this just turned up in my subs box; Mod Spotlight - ICBM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6pi8H7I1E4

:D

[Pisces]

The Minecraft Team interview @ PAX:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSdzWKu8Pqo

[Task Force]

Myeah, dunno. At least there's a bit more to do now with Thaumcraft being
included (hunt down artifacts & research them to build new TC stuff).

And logistics pipes for me. :O:

EDIT: Speaking of DW, this just turned up in my subs box; Mod Spotlight - ICBM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6pi8H7I1E4

:D

I was just about to post that!
If we use the mod pack I am looking pretty forward to Thaumcraft and logistics pipes.

[Lionclaw]

Got time to play this more once again. Seems the server is empty most of the time when I've looked in the server list.


Seems there has been some new additions to the game since I played it previously.

[Dowly]

Anyone using the GLSL shaders for 1.3.2? I can't seem to install it for some reason.
The installer goes through it without errors, but there's no changes to minecraft.jar. :hmmm:

[Pisces]

Anyone using the GLSL shaders for 1.3.2? I can't seem to install it for some reason.
The installer goes through it without errors, but there's no changes to minecraft.jar. :hmmm:According to the threads first message it is still only for 1.3.1. So maybe the installer does a check for specific files in the Jar and does a CRC check on it. But then you'd expect a warning of some sort.

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/120261-131-glsl-shaders-dof-bump-mapping-waving-wheat-dynamic-shadows-and-more/

[Dowly]

According to the threads first message it is still only for 1.3.1. So maybe the installer does a check for specific files in the Jar and does a CRC check on it. But then you'd expect a warning of some sort.

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/120261-131-glsl-shaders-dof-bump-mapping-waving-wheat-dynamic-shadows-and-more/

Yup, that was kinda the first place I checked. :O:

There is a 1.3.2. fan version towards the end of the thread.

[Pisces]

Well, it's not an official release. And the reported problems in the thread make it show. There are several of suggestions though why it may not be working. Nvidia not supported, Optifine required, dirty minecraft folder. Personally, I don't like the auto-installer-only method. I'd like to know what exactly it changes with the minecraft files. And it probably won't mix with multiMC launcher/mod-manager.

[Dowly]

Yup, I'm well aware of the problems, but none of them concern me as my problem
is that the bloody installer refuses to actually install stuff. :)

[Dowly]

DW's Mod Spotlight - Forestry (for 1.3.2.):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQESXulk3fo

---

Many of the mods have new stuff for the 1.3.2. update, so I'll just plonk the
DW's spotlights as they are released here, so everyone gets an idea of the changes.

[Safe-Keeper]

Have finally gotten around to DL Tekkit, great fun so far (and I haven't even gotten to any of the Tekkit stuff yet, just having fun discovering marble and new ores and whatnot :P )

[Dowly]

DW's Mod Spotlight - MystCraft:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00_8_4tDBtw

[Kapitän Schneider]

DW's Mod Spotlight - MystCraft:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00_8_4tDBtw


When using Mystcraft, back up regularly! Otherwise you can be stuck permanently in worlds you don't want to be in.

[Dowly]

I've never got stuck. :hmmm:

Just need to remember to have that linking book ready if you're going to a
possibly unstable age. :yep:

[Kapitän Schneider]

Well if you create too many worlds in one play through it can mess up your save, was creating my 5th world when it crashed and was stuck in a world that was permanently night, super flat with raging lightning. Not cool.

[Dowly]

Ah, well that sucks.

The only problem I had with the 1.2.5. version were the cave worlds. They
would slow Minecraft down to .000000000000000000001 frames per second
when I first entered them. :doh:

Tho, that issue seems to be fixed now. :up:

[Geno_Mariner]

Got time to play this more once again. Seems the server is empty most of the time when I've looked in the server list.


Seems there has been some new additions to the game since I played it previously.

Yeah no one's ever in when I go in either. It gets kinda lonely :-?

[Arclight]

Well, there's a fair few people logging on. Just rather unlikely to randomly stumble into each other. :hmmm:

[Dowly]

Guess it's better to keep the server as it is until the 1.4 (Halloween update) comes
out? Seems to be pretty big update all in all. :hmmm:

[Arclight]

I suppose. I'd like to go back to survival then though. Wouldn't mind playing a bit again, seems like there's a few fancy things coming up, but creative holds no apeal to me.

[Dowly]

Yea, survival works for me. Haven't played stock MC in a while and just started
a creative project, so pretty sure I'm thoroughly bored of it by the time 1.4 rolls
out. :hmmm:

[Oberon]

I'm cool with survival on 1.4 :yep:

[Spike88]

Are we getting FTB when it ever comes out?

[Dowly]

DW's Mod Spotlight - Railcraft v6.x:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGPkI31inQM

[Arclight]

"Arclight, we need more CPU power!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCcDFzSZ8go

[Spike88]

"Arclight, we need more CPU power!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCcDFzSZ8go

I think you need one of these. :O:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117261

[Arclight]

Anyone who buys that is a tool. :O:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117281

* actually, one would want the 1290

[Spike88]

Anyone who buys that is a tool. :O:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117281

* actually, one would want the 1290

I was mostly going off this:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
Although, I don't know if 4 times the price is worth double the performance.

[Arclight]

You won't get double the performance. MC isn't multithreaded, so more cores won't do any good. Get a fast clock instead. ;)

[Spike88]

You won't get double the performance. MC isn't multithreaded, so more cores won't do any good. Get a fast clock instead. ;)

I meant double performance in general. It's nearly twice as fast. Although if MC isn't multithreaded, wouldn't the best server be a dual or single core at around 4.0ghz?


ComputerCraft Tutorial by Direwolf:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrUHUhfCY5A&feature=g-all-u

Let's hope he does one for the computer in RedPower 2

[Dowly]

Think DW said he's not that great with the RP2 computer yet. But if you watch
the last season of his SSP let's play, he does atleast 3 projects where he uses
the computer. :yep:

[Arclight]

I meant double performance in general. It's nearly twice as fast. Although if MC isn't multithreaded, wouldn't the best server be a dual or single core at around 4.0ghz?
Dual would do it probably, but once you get to Sandy/Ivy Bridge-based Xeon the fastest chips are all quads.

Whether it is actually better to have more cores depends on the application. You can't determine a CPU's capabilities by only looking at core count. Same reason there wasn't a point to getting a quad for gaming a few years ago, and there's no point having more than 4 today.

And yeah, I was only looking at it within the context of running MC. I'm funny like that.

[Arclight]

I'll stick this here: Beyond Minecraft: Notch On Fame, Pressure, Sequels (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/14/beyond-minecraft-notch-on-fame-pressure-sequels/)

[Nagy]

I returned from my desert retreat to check out the spawn. Seems to be a mixture of fancy buildings and cake dispensers.

I'm just going to go help myself to all this delicious cake...

[Dowly]

DW's Mod Spotlight - IndustrialCraft 2 v1.106:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6zVCcygLnA

And something I found from FTB forums, nothing to do with the modpack,
but a nice overview of what's updated.

Industrialcraft - This is updated for 1.3.2!
-Advanced machines (unsure...)
-Compact Solars - Updated
-Gravity Suite (unsure...)
-Nuclear Control (unsure...)
-MFFS (unsure...)

Buildcraft - This is in the Pre-Release stage (Mods under cannot be updated until this is released)
-Additional Pipes
-Thermal Expansion
-Logistics Pipes - Pre-Release as well!

Forestry - Updated for 1.3.2!
-Extra Bees - Released BUT minor bug.

Computercraft - Updated for 1.3.2!
-CARP - Unsure, i'm not fluent with ComputerCraft so if someone could check these two?
-Turtle - I'm guessing they are inherently updated along with CC.

CodeChicken (Core) - Updated for 1.3.2!
-Wireless Redstone - Presumably waiting on redpower.
-NEI - Updated for 1.3.2!
-Chicken Chunks
-Bucket Filler

Mystcraft - Updated for 1.3.2!
Redpower2 - Unknown
Inventory Tweeks - Updated for 1.3.2!
Rei's Minimap - Updated for 1.3.2!
Tubestuff - Unknown
Ironchests - Updated for 1.3.2!
Steve's Carts - Unkown
Railcraft - Updated for 1.3.2!
Equivalent Exchange 3 - Unknown (pahimar has lots of livestreams of the development though)
Portal Gun - Unknown (iChun was away for sometime and was unable to update)
Secret Rooms - Updated for 1.3.2!
ExtraBiomsXL - Updated for 1.3.2!
Ender Storage - Unkown

http://www.feed-the-beast.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=487

[Spike88]

FTB needs to hurry up.


Also, I found this mod:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1359575-132-minechem-v17-for-mc-132-by-ljdp-639-total-downloads/
Works with IC2 power.

I love chemistry so this mod intrigues me, definitely need to find some videos on it.

[Arclight]

Surely it should have been named ChemCraft. :hmmm:

[Dowly]

DW's Mod Spotlight - Buildcraft v3.2.0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7MeyRYKtjY

[Spike88]

Surely it should have been named ChemCraft. :hmmm:
That would be too simple. :O:

[Dowly]

DW's Mod Spotlight - ComputerCraft 1.4.2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9GT1Atx5Rk

[Dowly]

Fun with invisibility potions :haha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6tjy3OmroQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=64s

[Spike88]

Thaumcraft 3 Stuff:
Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLIG616jy18&feature=plcp)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2jD69bHv80&feature=plcp)
Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_CKt7DV5mc&feature=plcp)

[Pisces]

Scuttlebut has it that the newest snapshot shows compass direction in the data-HUD. Finally something to get my bearings from. ;)

[Dowly]

Scuttlebut has it that the newest snapshot shows compass direction in the data-HUD. Finally something to get my bearings from. ;)

You've been able to check your direction with F3 for quite some time. :yep:

It's the f: below the coords, ranges from 0 to 3, now they've added a -180 to 180 value next to it, tho.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/MC_F3.jpg

[Pisces]

I know, but I still get lost.

[Oberon]

Meanwhile on the server:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7130/mc1sn.jpg
Task Force finds the alien technology

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5581/mc2b.jpg
The edge of the world....

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8254/mc3oc.jpg
What happens if you step over the edge

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9360/mc4t.jpg
Exploring a strange mine/ocean interaction near the end of the world

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1544/mc5c.jpg
Then we created WTF Island

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8558/mc6z.jpg
With its Golem guardians

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/918/mc7b.jpg
And Phill the snowman, who survived his original platform catching fire, so was preserved.

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4887/mc8p.jpg
Then Task Force created a bar and grill...well...mainly grill...which was very popular with the locals...

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3396/mc9w.jpg
Even Michael Jackson comes over for a meal

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9193/mc10y.jpg
And HunterICX

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9684/mc11b.jpg
Then some creepers gatecrashed, and Hunter got drunk with TNT

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7466/mc13yf.jpg
Hunter + TNT = RIP Phill :wah:

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5513/mc14.jpg
Phill Jr was created, safe within a obsidian/bedrock sarcophagus from the detonations outside, and underneath Phills refuge...

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9189/mc15ia.jpg
The new Zombie rave club! :rock:

[Pisces]

Meanwhile on the server:


The edge of the world....
At first look it reminded me of a torpedo bubble trail. Let's call that "job conditioning". ;)

[HunterICX]

The new Zombie rave club! :rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvexKA4_xsI

HunterICX

[Dowly]

So, I was bored and started building a village. :yep:

Roughly 1/3 done (not including the walls & castle)
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/WIP_Castle_Town_1.jpg

(The wonky roof on one of the buildings is due to the renderer not recognizing the corner stair blocks atm)

[Oberon]

Purty :yep:

[Kapitän Schneider]

Don't know why I didn't post this several months ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNsHTXTDtvY&feature=youtu.be

[Dowly]

1.4 Pre-Release available:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/636-14-pre-release-available-right-now/

[Red October1984]

Ok. So i couldnt resist asking this question.


What is minecraft, why does everybody like it, and why is it such a big deal? From what ive seen, Its just weird.... :-?

[Task Force]

Ok. So i couldnt resist asking this question.


What is minecraft, why does everybody like it, and why is it such a big deal? From what ive seen, Its just weird.... :-?

Same thing could be said with sub sims, train sims, and any other pretty much non combat game out there.

Either you like it, or you dont.

[Red October1984]

I just downloaded and played Minecraft Pocket Edition Lite.... :o


Now I understand. :yep: This is awesome. Can i get a CD copy of the PC game version somewhere?

[Spike88]

I just downloaded and played Minecraft Pocket Edition Lite.... :o


Now I understand. :yep: This is awesome. Can i get a CD copy of the PC game version somewhere?


Digital Download Only.

[Red October1984]

Digital Download Only.

Dang.... :shifty:

[Dowly]

Dang.... :shifty:

It's only ~60megs or so.

[Oberon]

What's the plan on the server anyway? We waiting for that...mod pack thingy to update or starting a new survival map on 1.4?

[Dowly]

Survival when 1.4 is released I think.

[Red October1984]

It's only ~60megs or so.

It isnt the download size im disappointed by...its the price. I think it was like 26 USD. Thats a bit much for a PC game for me. I get my games on Amazon where everything I buy is dirt cheap.


I have fallen in love with Minecraft, but It can wait. :hmmm:

[Kapitän Schneider]

It isnt the download size im disappointed by...its the price. I think it was like 26 USD. Thats a bit much for a PC game for me. I get my games on Amazon where everything I buy is dirt cheap

It may be 26 USD, but if you view every hour you played it adding up to 1 USD, I think most of us here have played it for at least a few hundred hours and for more than 2 years now. So it's a bargain to me at that price (although I did buy it Pre Beta when it was on sale). Also the mods for it make it even more value for money.

[Spike88]

What's the plan on the server anyway? We waiting for that...mod pack thingy to update or starting a new survival map on 1.4?

With Eloraam being so slow, it looks like 1.4 will come out first.

[Dowly]

With Eloraam being so slow, it looks like 1.4 will come out first.

I bet she releases the public build after 1.4 :hmmm:

In other news, think they went a bit over the top with the new Enderman sound:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX7tNUhLln4

[Oberon]

Might I put forward the suggestion that we start a new SMP map now then with the pre-rel 1.4? I can't see there being that much different between the pre-rel and the release that will require a new map.

Thoughts? I think we've played this map out to its logical conclusion...although I would politely request that Arc PMs me the map file so I can add more to my little village when I think of it. :yep:

[Arclight]

What's the state of the pre-release? I mean, new blocks and such that need to be added and stability mainly. If it's still rather buggy I'd rather wait, and I'd prefer to avoid a situation where we have to open up new chunks for certain things to apear in-game.

[Dowly]

I've used the snapshots for awhile and they seem to be pretty stable as far as I can tell. Don't know what is still missing, a lot of the features seem to be in.

Can't check atm, at school, being busy... stupid Netflix not working here. :nope:

EDIT: List of chunk related stuff that is currently included in the pre-release:

-Bats
-Swamp Huts & Witches to live in them
-New Slime Spawning (swamps)
-Wither Skeletons (Nether Fortress)
-Carrots & Potatoes (Villages & Jungles)

Think that covers all the planned stuff for 1.4(?) :hmmm:

Complete change log:
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions#Minecraft_1.4_.28The_Pretty_S cary_Update.29_Snapshots_.26_Pre-releases

[Arclight]

Alright, so... now, tomorrow?

[Dowly]

Your call. I wouldnt mind starting today, but then again, 1.4 *should* be released tomorrow.

Then again, I've seen 25th as the release date too, so go figure. :dead:

[Arclight]

Wasn't it supposed to be Haloween initially?

Er, let's see what happens tomorrow then. If there's no news I'll chuck in an update and new map. :hmmm:

[Dowly]

Sounds like a plan... which is kinda worrying. :hmmm:

[Oberon]

Sounds like a plan... which is kinda worrying. :hmmm:

http://thethirtiesgrind.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sky-is-falling.jpg

[Task Force]

http://thethirtiesgrind.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/sky-is-falling.jpg

AH! Quick get the umbrellas!

I am fine with this whole server update thing, just give a shout out before hand so I can go crazy with the TNT, like I already haven't...

[Spike88]

I bet she releases the public build after 1.4 :hmmm:

In other news, think they went a bit over the top with the new Enderman sound:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX7tNUhLln4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX7tNUhLln4)

I hope Thaumcraft 3 comes out around the same time. The new mechanics look amazing.


The new ender sound seems like they're trying to get the same vibe from the Slender game.

[Tanedin]

I updated my own home server, it seems to crash a lot more. It might just be me, but it's crashed several times already since Sunday.

[Red October1984]

I hope Thaumcraft 3 comes out around the same time. The new mechanics look amazing.


The new ender sound seems like they're trying to get the same vibe from the Slender game.

The Slender game was a pretty good indie horror game. :up: I liked it.

[Arclight]

I updated my own home server, it seems to crash a lot more. It might just be me, but it's crashed several times already since Sunday.
"a lot more" as in "it crashed before but not as often"? :06:

The one here has been running for 3 months straight now, don't think it has crashed since the beta days. Ignoring the times I tripped over the power cable of course.

[Spike88]

"a lot more" as in "it crashed before but not as often"? :06:

The one here has been running for 3 months straight now, don't think it has crashed since the beta days. Ignoring the times I tripped over the power cable of course.

It didn't crash when Oberon nuked the map twice?

[Tanedin]

I guess "a lot more" isn't quite right, since it never crashed before. I've been getting crashes on my server after setting it up with the 1.4 prerelease.

From the crash report "Descripion: Exception in server tick loopjava.lang.OutofMemoryError: Java heap space"

I'm getting this placing redstone lamps, never had a problem with them before.
It might be that I'm running the server on a 32 bit copy of Windows 7? This is just an acer laptop after all. I set it up so a few friends and I could work on a large project in creative, haven't had any problems running it almost continuously since June.

[Dowly]

1.4 pushed to 25th, 1.4.1 pre-release today instead:
http://mojang.com/2012/10/minecraft-1-4-1-pre-release/

day -1 patch! Lovely! No but seriously, there was a big issue
causing mobs to suffocate and fall through wooden floors that we really
needed to fix. The full list of fixes are…

Fixed mobs glitching through wooden floors
Fixed players glitching through Beacons
Fixed Redstone Repeaters getting stuck in ‘on’ state
Bats spawn less frequently
A number of minor font fixes
Activated the Wither painting
Fixed wet wolves looking way too scary
Tweaked naming costs in the Anvil
Tweaked enchantment points reward for smelting
Fixed bug that allowed any item to be placed in the armor slots
Fixed mob spawners spawning too quickly

Since we do these pre-releases mainly to prepare modders and server
admins (and not to find and fix bugs), we’ve decided to push the release of
1.4(.1) one day to Thursday, October 25. Again, since I know this is a lot
of text to read:


Release date: Thursday October 25

Download the pre-release here:


Client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_1/minecraft.jar
Server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_1/minecraft_server.jar (or EXE (http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_1/Minecraft_Server.exe))

// The Minecraft Team

[Arclight]

Right. So tomorrow then.
It didn't crash when Oberon nuked the map twice?
Nope. Did take half a day for it to make the calculations. They really need to make it use multiple cores.
I guess "a lot more" isn't quite right, since it never crashed before. I've been getting crashes on my server after setting it up with the 1.4 prerelease.

From the crash report "Descripion: Exception in server tick loopjava.lang.OutofMemoryError: Java heap space"

I'm getting this placing redstone lamps, never had a problem with them before.
It might be that I'm running the server on a 32 bit copy of Windows 7? This is just an acer laptop after all. I set it up so a few friends and I could work on a large project in creative, haven't had any problems running it almost continuously since June.
Ah I see. May well be the release itself; it's a pre-release after all. Never use the things so I can't say much about stability in the past.

[Oberon]

It didn't crash when Oberon nuked the map twice?

No! :wah:

I tried my best though! :yep:

[Dowly]

Uh... Can I help you?
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/pigman.jpg

[CaptainHaplo]

This brings up an interesting question - I have an 8 core server running - does Minecraft only use one core regardless?

[Arclight]

Last I've heard they split off chunk saving, so it's kinda multi-threaded. Not sure how much progress they made towards threading the thing the past 6 months, nothing else I'm aware off. Some of the mod frameworks (Bukkit and such) implemented some of their own tweaks to improve multi-core performance.

When Obe nuked the map though 1 core was sitting maxed out with the others not doing much at all, so at least at that point there wasn't much support to speak of.

[Dowly]

@Taledin 1.4.2. Pre-Release went live some hours ago, fixing a severe server side memory leak.

[Tanedin]

Ah, thanks for that. I was just going to use it as is until the patch but now I don't have to!

[Dowly]

1.4.2. Released!

The Pretty Scary Update!

+ Added a beacon
+ Added flower pots
+ Added item frames
+ Added anvils
+ Added cobblestone walls
+ Added pumpkin pies
+ Added carrots and potatoes
+ Carrots can be put on a stick to control pigs while riding
+ Added a boss mob
+ Added a new skeleton type
+ Added witches
+ Added bats
+ Added mob heads that can be placed
+ Zombies now infect villagers, but can also be cured
+ Added wooden button
+ Items can be cloned with the “pick block” action in Creative Mode
+ Items can be quickly moved to the hotbar by pressing 1 through 9 while hovering an item
+ Added /difficulty, /spawnpoint, /weather, /gamerule and /clear commands
+ Added “target selectors” for commands
+ Added option to hide capes
+ Added option to toggle vertical synch
+ Added customization to superflat worlds
+ Minor additions to the world generator
+ New potion recipes
+ Leather armor can be dyed
* Maps now start more zoomed in, and can be extended
* Redstone repeaters can now be set into a “locked” position
* New sound effects
* Portals to the Nether can now transport items and mobs
* Adventure mode now allows placing and removing blocks, but only when using the correct tools
* Changed method of placing sideways wood logs
* Improved server list
* Improved debug (F3) options
* Spawn protection is now automatically disabled if there are no defined admins
- Removed Herobrine

And few things for those who haven't been keeping up with the changes:

Maps have changed so that they now have different zoom levels, to make a bigger
map place the map in the center of the crafting grid and surround it with paper. Maps work with item frames.

Books are now made by placing a piece of leather to the corner of a crafting
grid and surround it with 3 paper.

Max enchanting level is 30, so you only need one layer of books around the
enchanting table instead of two.

F3+H enables/disables debug stuff. When enabled, if you hover over a tool,
it tells you how much durability it has left. For maps, it tells the current zoom level.

[Oberon]

Goddamit he removed Herobrine again.... :nope::nope::nope::nope:

[Arclight]

There we are, all new-and-improved like.

[Dowly]

I'll be to the west, across the desert next to the spawn.

X: -476
Z: 317

[Oberon]

There we are, all new-and-improved like.

Hurrah!

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff363/EpicFinnDude/MinecraftLauncher.png

http://images.wikia.com/animalcrossing/images/8/8a/Fuuuuuu.jpg

[Arclight]

Login servers are down... That explains why putting on my MC shirt and the music didn't resolve the issue.

http://help.mojang.com/

[Oberon]

Login servers are down... That explains why putting on my MC shirt and the music didn't resolve the issue.

http://help.mojang.com/

Back for the moment, so don't take that shirt off and keep the music playing! :yep:

[Dowly]

Are you kidding me game?! This now the fourth or fifth time in a row that I have
abandoned mines right under my base on Arc's server. :/\\!!

[Arclight]

For once I didn't dig into a cave.

Yet, anyway. Think I hear shuffling nearby.

[Tanedin]

I finally learned port forwarding, yay!
Anyone want to lend me some party streamers?


(and maybe a cake too...)

[Pisces]

It may be 26 USD, but if you view every hour you played it adding up to 1 USD, I think most of us here have played it for at least a few hundred hours and for more than 2 years now. So it's a bargain to me at that price (although I did buy it Pre Beta when it was on sale). Also the mods for it make it even more value for money.Exactly, this game has near-infinite replayability compared to all other games I know. The best 26 dollars you will spend on a game.

[Dowly]

Stronghold+Abandoned mines combo entrance at:
X: -680
Z: 336

In a jungle just west of me, marked with cobblestone.
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/stronghold.jpg

Explored bit of it last night before dying and losing everything of value,
so knock yourself out.

[Oberon]

Knock myself out? Usually I just have the nearest skelly do that for me...

*suits up*

Right, guess I'll go do it myself then... :yep:

[Dowly]

Right, guess I'll go do it myself then... :yep:

Good luck, got 7 ender pearls with Looting 1 sword in two days... :shifty:

[Oberon]

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Imgs/Jpg/Kilauea/30212265-054_large.jpg


*Dowly logs on*

http://massassi.hobby-site.com/massassi/pictures/episode_3/img/lava_river07.jpg

Dowly: Told you so, kekeke
Electricfox: Shut up...


Meanwhile at Narkos house:

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/108/1084708/what-a-po-lava-the-greatest-movie-volcanoes-20100420095225241.jpg

[Dowly]

Was thinking we should pool our enderpearls and go fight the dragon together?

The portal had 2 or 3 in it, so that's 9-10 we need to collect. I got the the blaze
powder to make thme to ender eyes, so that's not a problem.

Would be nice to do something together too on the server. :yep:
Oh and once I got the 3 wither skulls to summon the Wither, I'm going to
need help. That thing hurts. :dead:

[Narko]

Oh,YES! I love lava, need more lava for my fortress!!!

[Arclight]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/world-10.jpg

[Oberon]

Approximate:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6422/world10a.jpg

[Lionclaw]

I'm at the snowy area south of spawn, just got a temporary shack at the moment.

There's a house on top of a mountain NW from me.

[Spike88]

The House on top of the mountain is mine. Should be around Geno and Arc.

[Pisces]

I'm between the swamp and jungle biome above Narko. (North of "ko") Fairly established hidehole in a mountain. But the slimes are making me consider a move elsewhere.

[EDIT]
BTW, who's been building way out east south east. (see world map on TSserver) Seems like a sandstone square. Prototype of Dowly's mobspawner?

[Arclight]

Er I took a wander through the Nether and set up another portal. The sandstone thing is some temple-like structure that keeps spawning witches at night.

[Dowly]

Looks to be a desert temple in a swamp biome. Strange. :hmmm:

[Oberon]

Updated:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6422/world10a.jpg

Given how close we are together, is it worth me building a new underground system? :hmmm:

[Dowly]

Nah, don't think we need a transportation system.

Oh and Nether portals will have problems, Arc's portal linked to mine and our bases
are the farthest away in the overworld.

[Krauter]

Obie, I just hopped on the server to take a look and I think it was yourplace I tried to take refuge in (it was night). A creeper blew me up outside of your wall (near the water) so there might be a hole. It's outside your walls but I just wanted to let you know.

[Oberon]

Obie, I just hopped on the server to take a look and I think it was yourplace I tried to take refuge in (it was night). A creeper blew me up outside of your wall (near the water) so there might be a hole. It's outside your walls but I just wanted to let you know.

No probs, thanks for the heads up. Thankfully it's mostly sand around the walls so it's easy to replace. :yep:

[Arclight]

I was thinking... we could do a "gate room" in the Nether;

Gates will always connect to their closest counterpart in the other realm. But that difference technically only has to be 1 block. It should be possible to have a large number of gates in the Nether close together but connecting to overworld gates large distances apart. :hmmm:

We would need a central location to work from, but with some basic math we should go a long way.

* actually, might work best between just 2 people... these things really need an option to just pair them.

[Krauter]

No probs, thanks for the heads up. Thankfully it's mostly sand around the walls so it's easy to replace. :yep:

Cheers! I'm thinking of maybe joining the server and settling in the East. I forget all the odds and ends though since the updates..

[Dowly]

Right, the Enderman farm is ready enough to be used. Coordinates to the stronghold here (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1953580&postcount=4131).

When you go through the End portal, the path to the trap should be on your
left (ladders leading down). The Endermen have only half a heart left after the
drop, so you only need to punch them once. There's also an enchanting table
with enough books for lvl30 stuff as well as an enderchest for those who use them.

The way out of the End is back where you entered the End, head up the stairs
and follow the cobblestone+torch markers.

I'll probably add few more spawning layers to the trap, but as it is, you go from lvl0
to lvl30 in about 2 minutes.

EDIT: Oh, might want to be careful when crossing the walkway. Just got knocked off
by an angry enderman and lost probably a good 45 diamonds worth of stuff. Huzzah!

[Oberon]

Right, the Enderman farm is ready enough to be used. Coordinates to the stronghold here (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1953580&postcount=4131).

EDIT: Oh, might want to be careful when crossing the walkway. Just got knocked off
by an angry enderman and lost probably a good 45 diamonds worth of stuff. Huzzah!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pmT8VtWXK2s/T8U3F-M7I9I/AAAAAAAAKds/TzlFIG7qKts/Good+news+everyone.JPG

After the Health and Safety Executive rated Dowlys cobblestone bridge as 'WTF' I took it upon myself to upgrade it, it is now 99.999995% less likely to kill you! Furthermore, if you want to enter THE END, go to Dowlys Ender-farm and exit THE END without having to battle wild Endermen, you now can, thanks to the subterranean pathway leading to the exit portal!

Have fun!

[Arclight]

Cooking with Arclight: broccoli casserole with chicken

1. turn on oven, 210C
2. play Minecraft for 5 minutes
3. put the pre-made tin you bought at the store in the oven
4. play Minecraft for 30 minutes

Enjoy!

[HunterICX]

5.Burn down the house

:hmmm:

HunterICX

[Dowly]

@Oberon: Goodie! :salute:

[Arclight]

Well, play some more Minecraft, obviously.

While the house burns down, maybe.

[Pisces]

I usually burn the pizza after the 30 minutes

[Spike88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_NXhYQuOhg&feature=g-all-u
Buildcraft Mod Expansion thing

[Arclight]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/world2.jpg

House of Horrors thing is a large enclosed space. Lots of stuff spawning there, and you can hunt mobs relatively safely. Pick them off from the walkways with a bow and go in with a sword to collect yer loot.

Still inherently dangerous of course, but better than being ambushed in a forest.

[Nagy]

Oops. that large spike to the top of the map was me exploring the full extent of the Jungle biome I've called home.

[Pisces]

The Beast is getting hungry: http://feed-the-beast.com/

[Spike88]

I wonder which mods will make the initial cut. Either way I'm excited. :D

[Dowly]

The following is a list of some of the mods in the initial release of
the modpack we understand that many of your favourite mods may be
missing but don’t worry there will be frequent updates as they update to
1.4 and beyond!

Industrial Craft 2
Twilight Forest
Forestry
Mystcraft
Railcraft
Buildcraft
ComputerCraft
Greg tech
Thermal Expansion
Factorization
StevesCarts
MFFS
ExtraBiomesXL
IC2 Nuclear control
Rei's minimap
Advanced machines
Iron Chest
Ender Storage
Advanced solar panels
NEI

http://forum.feed-the-beast.com/index.php?threads/ftb-release.736/

[Spike88]

The only thing missing is Redpower 2 and EE3. The later doesn't alter world generation, so it's easy to throw in. But the lack of red power 2 means worlds will have to be restarted once eloraam does release it.


I wish she would just release the world portion do we could at least leave out worlds in tact.

[Nagy]

I can live without EE, but RedPower has a lot of potential that I completely failed to unlock last time...

[Dowly]

FTB Launcher release event now live at:
http://www.twitch.tv/slowpoke101

Bunch of modders taking part, so should be interesting. :yep:

[Nagy]

Wanted to continue working on my Jungle Base, but looks like the MC servers are down :(

[Spike88]

Wanted to continue working on my Jungle Base, but looks like the MC servers are down :(

FTB release probablly wrecked everything. :haha:

[Oberon]

Seem to be back up now.

[Krauter]

So just to be clear the subsim server will run mods? Which ones will you all be running?

[Oberon]

That's the big question. There's no mods being used at the moment, and I don't know whether it'd be right to switch over to a modded server so soon after starting a new world in vanilla.

Thoughts? :hmmm:

[Arclight]

Waiting on RP I suppose. Still think the modpacks are ridiculous so would prefer our own selection, but we'll have to see.

[Pisces]

You can add mods like Optifine, NEI, Rei's Minimap, Forge, texturepack to your minecraft. At least, so far I got away with adding them. Arc's server didn't complain. But no mods that contradict with the way the server handles the world. So, anything that introduces new blocks, items or mob interaction would be a no-no.

I like the idea of trying out FTB on the server. My short stroll into a private FTB world shows much more biome variety. But perhaps it is better to hold off until Redpower and/or EE has been added to it. As it could require a new world to be effective.

Also, I prefer FTB as a modpack since the mods are assembled to be compatible. But it's up to Arc, as he would need to do the server maintenance.

[HunterICX]

That's the big question. There's no mods being used at the moment, and I don't know whether it'd be right to switch over to a modded server so soon after starting a new world in vanilla.

Thoughts? :hmmm:

Nay.
I've a dislike for Mods in MC too much to maintain, too much junk and it just takes away the MC feeling imo.

I'll stick to Vanilla and hope the server does too for quite some time.

HunterICX

[Oberon]

Nay.
I've a dislike for Mods in MC too much to maintain
HunterICX

In its defence, the whole idea behind FTB is that you just download and install one thing, like HSFX for IL2, and then the whole lot is updated rather than having to install separate updates. That's what I get from it.
So maintenance would be rather low, I'm not sure but I'd guess that they'd have also streamlined the installation process a fair bit too so it shouldn't be too tricky to install.

[Dowly]

Installing FTB is just a matter of downloading the launcher and running Minecraft using it.

Everything is downloaded and installed for you.

Also, disabling/enabling mods is very much identical to JSGME.

Here's Direwolf's Spotlight showing how it works:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwxT87zMSFU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwxT87zMSFU)

So, if the the server is going to go modded at somepoint, I really dont see any
advantage of compiling our own mods as we did before. FTB includes all the mods
we've used and just so much less hassle. :hmmm:

Btw, the .JAR version of the launcher didn't work for me when I tested it last night,
but the .EXE version works.

[Oberon]

Installing FTB is just a matter of downloading the launcher and running Minecraft using it.

Does it overwrite native MC or can you run native MC by using the traditional Minecraft exe?

[Arclight]

Installing FTB is just a matter of downloading the launcher and running Minecraft using it.

Everything is downloaded and installed for you.

Also, disabling/enabling mods is very much identical to JSGME.

Here's Direwolf's Spotlight showing how it works:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwxT87zMSFU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwxT87zMSFU)

So, if the the server is going to go modded at somepoint, I really dont see any
advantage of compiling our own mods as we did before. FTB includes all the mods
we've used and just so much less hassle. :hmmm:

Btw, the .JAR version of the launcher didn't work for me when I tested it last night,
but the .EXE version works.
Ah, goody. Figured t'was one of those all-or-nothing afairs since it had been configured to run together. I'd rather not use everything they stuffed in there.

[Dowly]

Does it overwrite native MC or can you run native MC by using the traditional Minecraft exe?

It downloads minecraft to the folder you have the FTB executable in, so your
original Minecraft remains untouched and can be started normally via Minecraft.exe

Ah, goody. Figured t'was one of those all-or-nothing afairs since it had been configured to run together. I'd rather not use everything they stuffed in there.

Yea, I agree, we don't need them all. And some might even cause some headache,
like Mystcraft.

Tho, I'd keep the majority of them, as many tend to work the best when mixed
with other mods. Good exaple being EnderStorage, which is pretty much mandatory,
if one wants to make a movable RP2 frame quarry. :hmmm:

But lets see when the time comes.

[Spike88]

I like the idea of trying out FTB on the server. My short stroll into a private FTB world shows much more biome variety. But perhaps it is better to hold off until Redpower and/or EE has been added to it. As it could require a new world to be effective.


EE doesn't require anything generated by the world generator. Everything is made from vanilla objects or dropped by mods(as it stands now, but the mod maker would like to keep it this way).

If Eloraam would give us the world module, we could start our worlds now and just wait for the rest of the modules. But alas, she won't.



I'd personally prefer FTB over a mod pack we put together just for the simplicity. No more issues with wrong ID numbers, or wrong install order, etc.. Add for adding or removing mods from FTB, I think we should just leave it the way it is, as everything seems to be properly balanced for MP. Heck even EE3 is being balanced so it's not as OP as EE2.

The only mod I'd like seen added if it's not included in FTB, is TC3(although it'll probably end up in FTB).

[Krauter]

My only problem with mods now is I haven't played MC for a while, and same with mods. So to me I just get my butt kicked trying to survive (I'm crap at this game with hunger added in. I always can never find food or shelter because I'm hunting for one more then the other), not to mention trying to remember everything and how to use all the things that mods add in.

So then I get frustrated, leave and play something else

[Spike88]

My only problem with mods now is I haven't played MC for a while, and same with mods. So to me I just get my butt kicked trying to survive (I'm crap at this game with hunger added in. I always can never find food or shelter because I'm hunting for one more then the other), not to mention trying to remember everything and how to use all the things that mods add in.

So then I get frustrated, leave and play something else

Food production really isn't an issue anymore with Potatoes and Carrots added to the game(I also think animals give more meat than they used too, but I could be wrong). Forestry makes this easier with the automation of farms. Just with Vanilla, you really shouldn't starve to death anymore, and with Forestry included, if you do starve, you're doing something wrong.

As for shelter, the only way it's an issue is if you join the server at night, otherwise making a small shelter really shouldn't be a problem.

If you wait to get a small shack and a small farm going before you even think about touching the mod stuff, you should have no problem. As for the complexity of the mods, it's generally a good idea to stick with one mod and learn it's in's and out's, instead of trying to do everything at once.
If you try to dive headfirst into the mods without getting the bare necessities in place(the same ones you'd need in Vanilla MC as it is), you're going to get overwhelmed.

If you ever get lost or don't know what to do with a mod, Direwolf has spotlights for most, if not all, of the mods in FTB. He also covers most of the pods in his let's plays. Watch his SMP(which has all the FTB mods) one to catch up, or watch his older SSP one(will be slightly out of date). They're perfect for seeing how to combine the mods together.

[Krauter]

Hah, well I must be unlucky. Every time I've joined the server to check it out, or try something I join at night and have no idea where I am. That and I don't like to make a shelter unless I've found a location that I want to stay in.

As for food, I don't know how to get carrots :wah: and the only animals I've seen on the server so far is Squids and a sheep :hmmm:

[Dowly]

Carrots & potatos are found in villages or rarely in jungles.

If all else fails, punch the wild grass and get seeds. :yep:

[Spike88]

Hah, well I must be unlucky. Every time I've joined the server to check it out, or try something I join at night and have no idea where I am. That and I don't like to make a shelter unless I've found a location that I want to stay in.

As for food, I don't know how to get carrots :wah: and the only animals I've seen on the server so far is Squids and a sheep :hmmm:

If you don't like the area, just create a small hole until sunlight.

If you join the server while people are on, most would gladly throw some potato, carrot, melon, pumpkin, or wheat seeds your way.

You can also get cocoa from the jungle(used to make chocolate chip cookies), and you can get apples from the leaves of the regular trees. There is an abundance of food.

If you avoid sprinting and unnecessary digging, hitting, etc. your stamina doesn't deplete that fast, even on hard.

[Oberon]

I've got loads of food in my castle, and some empty houses (thank you zombies) so if you want to set up a temporary residence there, you're more than welcome to. There's cows, sheep, pigs and chickens nearby, just be sure to leave at least two of each animal in the pen so we can repopulate.

[Nagy]

I think by now most of us have a farm that is over-producing so food isn't really a problem. my advice is to always make sure you've got a reasonable stack before heading out spelunking.

[Krauter]

Cheers! I wasn't aware you could get apples from trees and such. If it's OK with you Oberon maybe I'll stay in those shacks until I can get enough food and tools to strike out on my own. I'm planning on heading further East. I see a decent location on the map with a river nearby so I'm thinking of going there. Also, does fishing work now?

[Oberon]

No probs at all mate.

So, I've just done a spot of digging underneath my town making room for the station from the railway line to Keabs from my place. I'd been up to the castle and down again to dispose of excess cobble in the lava bin, and everything was fine.
I walk into the castle, go into the bedroom area, put some ores in the oven to smelt, look up at the clouds going past, walk over to the...wait...what?

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/703/20121112014636.jpg

Well...****

It has to be a bug, like the text/lag bug. So I log out, and log back in...no dice, I still have a open view ceiling. Perhaps the blocks are just not showing...so I climb up to the top.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3263/20121112014720.jpg

Bloody hell, it's like someone's dropped a Tall Boy on it...

I jump onto one of the missing wooden blocks...and fall straight down two stories. Ouch.

Ok...perhaps it's just on my end. I call Task Force over Steam and he comes over to confirm that he can see the devastation too...

So, it would appear that my castle has had a slight combustion interaction...and unfortunately my recently acquired pet cat was sitting on the second floor...poor sod.

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4127/20121112015311.jpg

SOCO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scenes_of_Crime_Officer) is working on two theories at the moment, the first is that the fire started above my lava bin on the ground floor, however the curious fact is that there are more surviving wooden blocks on the lower floors than on the roof. Which brings us to the second theory, that a lightning strike started the fire on the roof, this is backed up by myself hearing a close lightning strike during the last storm to go through (made that creeper like explosion sound) however it was some time after the storm, and several trips in and out of the castle before I noticed the issue.

Needless to say, the roof is now cobble and the lava bin has been...err...binned.

Wish I had been around to see it, could have tried to save the cat at least. Took bloody forever to get that creature. :wah::wah::wah:

[Nagy]

Eenteresting Fox.

There are loads of Ocelots roaming near my place so bring some Fish and have fun.

I showed this to Fox last night and he suggested I post this in the thread, so that if you do decide to install EE, that this exploit can be verboten:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__MXxLKrurs

**EDIT**

Direct link to the part of the video with the explanation if you can't be bothered to watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=__MXxLKrurs#t=130s

[Dowly]

I showed this to Fox last night and he suggested I post this in the thread, so that if you do decide to install EE, that this exploit can be verboten:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__MXxLKrurs



Condenser has been removed in EE3.

What features are in EE3? Is item X/Y/Z still around from EE2?
I haven't compiled a final list of what is in EE3 yet for the public, but here is the short list of what is in/out;


Red Matter has been removed
Collectors have been removed
Condensers have been removed
The Destruction Catalyst/Hyperkinetic Lens have been removed
The EMC system will remain, but it will be changed to accomodate new and more interesting mechanics
There will be a method to move EMC around in "wires"
More configuration options will be available to both players and server admins
EE3 will feature an API, which is not complete at this time
A transmutation system similiar to the Transmutation Tablet will exist, but is not ready to be disclosed at this time


These decisions were all made with balance in mind, and are not open to being changed. I need these things to happen in order to make this mod that much more fleshed out and fun. Trust me; you will love the end result.

[Nagy]

That sounds a lot better.

[Krauter]

Hmm who's this Duncan character? Liking his castle lol. Might try and build on similar to that if we have tekkit on the server.

[Krauter]

Hmm maybe a pointless question, but does this FTB mod contain everything Tekkit does? Can we use it similarly?

[Spike88]

Hmm who's this Duncan character? Liking his castle lol. Might try and build on similar to that if we have tekkit on the server.

Hmm maybe a pointless question, but does this FTB mod contain everything Tekkit does? Can we use it similarly?

Tekkit and FTB do the same thing, more or less but they don't contain the same mods. Also FTB has close connections with the modders whose mods are in the pack and it is supported by direwolf

[Krauter]

Gotcha, just downloaded FTB and I'm liking it so far. Biggest thing missing from it from what I can tell is some of the EE stuff (the rings are part of EE if I'm not mistaken yes?)

[Dowly]

[...]and it is supported by direwolf

And the mod authors. Something Tekkit won't be enjoying anytime soon. :O:

@Krauter: EE is not in the pack yet.

Oh and FTB wiki is in the works. :up:

[Krauter]

And the mod authors. Something Tekkit won't be enjoying anytime soon. :O:

@Krauter: EE is not in the pack yet.

Oh and FTB wiki is in the works. :up:

Gotcha. The more I look into the launcher the more I like the authors and the compilations. Really makes playing and ordering mods a lot easier.

@Dowly: Any reason behind that?

[Dowly]

@Dowly: Any reason behind that?

Tekkit uses most of the mods without permission.

(if that's what you were asking about :hmmm:)

[Krauter]

Yea that was what I was wondering about. That's crazy though, I thought it was because the mod packs author seemed to be an arse. That seals it for me at least. Yogbox and FTB will be my mod packs.

[Nagy]

I'm a fool. It asked me to update and I pressed yes...

[Arclight]

Let me punch some buttons on the server as well then.

[Oberon]

Let me punch some buttons on the server as well then.

http://dwightcarter.edublogs.org/files/2011/07/not-the-self-destruct-button-2hfnwfl.jpg

I think 1.4.4 has introduced a new 'feature', I'm having a lot of difficulty connecting to and staying on, the server.

EDIT: Bit more stable now...but there are little will-o'-the-wisps running around.

[Nagy]

I'm getting lots of little flashes of what looks like fire.

[Oberon]

I'm getting lots of little flashes of what looks like fire.

Yeah, that's the will-o-the-wisps I was referring to, I think it's the torch burning animation, but it's flashing all over the place. A bit random.

Managed to play for about an hour or two earlier with no disconnect, so whatever was breaking it yesterday seems to have fixed it now.

[Dowly]

Direwolf20's Mod Spotlight - Gregtech (part of FTB*):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0Ybe5e_CjI

*Some of the expensive recipes are disabled by default in FTB, but some are enabled.

(FTBBETAA/Minecraft/Config/GregTech.cfg)
usefullrecipes {
Compress2Storageblock=true
ElectricSteelTools=true
ExpensiveBCQuarryRecipe=false
ExpensiveMaceratorRecipe=false
ExpensiveNukeRecipe=true
ExpensiveSolarRecipe=true
ExpensiveWatermillRecipe=false
ExpensiveWindRecipe=false
MMIngotOnlyRollingMachine=true
Storageblock2Macerator=true
TincellsPer4Tin=8
WatermillReverseCrafting=true

[Nagy]

Hey Arc, if you get chance this weekend can we get a new carto?

[Spike88]

Let me punch some buttons on the server as well then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=syxa4ZGNC0I#t=9s

[Oberon]

:o Minecarts have sound now! :o

[Arclight]

They do? Fancy.
Hey Arc, if you get chance this weekend can we get a new carto?
Bucket is being a git so I stuck 'm on TS3 file browser.

[Spike88]

Direwolf finished recording his RP2 spotlight, which we should get some time soon. Which means we should be getting RP2 soon too.


Most mods handle the change from 1.4.2 to 1.4.4 without hassle.

[Oberon]

Here's the new updated annotated map for the handful who still play:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9958/map1qq.jpg

Fullsize:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5267/map1go.jpg

[Dowly]

Re: FTB pack

Might be best to wait for the full release if we are planning on using it. :hmmm:

[Oberon]

Re: FTB pack

Might be best to wait for the full release if we are planning on using it. :hmmm:

Any idea when that'll be? :hmmm:

[Dowly]

Any idea when that'll be? :hmmm:

Q. ETA of Final Release.
A. Sometime between now and 15th May 3127:O:

Err.. the final release will have at least two mods in addition to RP2 that add
stuff to the worldgen: Thaumcraft 3 and XyCraft.

And according to the team, the beta version isnt meant for playing, so things
might change along the way that might force us to stick to the beta world or
start a new one.

EDIT: Oh and EE3, I believe adds stuff to the worldgen as well.

[Nagy]

Feh. Mining near lava. Lagged. Then found myself transported into lava...

[Oberon]

Yeah, been there, done that, I think that was death number one or two in the nether.

Lose much?

[Dowly]

DW20's Thaumcraft 3 Mod Spotlight Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4-IOu68-pI

[Dowly]

Thaumcraft 3 released! :rock:

DW20's Mod Spotlight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOj2PteDEMU

[Spike88]

Thaumcraft 3 released! :rock:

DW20's Mod Spotlight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOj2PteDEMU
For a second there, I thought it was RP2's release.

Someone said last night in the KerbalKon livestream, "I wonder what will come first KSP .18 or RP2".

Would've been hilarious if RP2 launched today.

[Dowly]

Wait... how does my post about Thaumcraft spotlight part 2 appear as post #4217?? :doh:

EDIT: Hmm.. it shows the date of post as 1 December, that's weird, I made that post few minutes before this one.

EDIT2: Some news on RP2

<slowpoke> here is the news on RP
<slowpoke> There are 4 serious bugs left to resolve in Red Power 2. There has been no progress over the last week due to Eloraam being swamped with work in real life. Things have eased off now and Eloraam has returned to coding this weekend and hopes to have something ready for release soon.

[Dowly]

And more FTB delays:

So I have recently received further news about the release of Red Power 2. It has apparently been decided that release of the mod has been delayed until after the 21st December 2012. Apparently there are fears that if Eloraam was to release now, the amount of data being downloaded at one time would effectively bring down the internet. This would lead to a chain of events that would cumulate in the end of world.

It is hoped that by delaying the upcoming release of Red Power we can avoid this disaster and may get to see a future where we finally get to a point where FTB can release a stable mod pack, the hard work of Pahimar and Soaryn isn't wasted and we all get to see the amazing looking Equivalent Exchange and Xycraft, and Notch and Jeb finally give the mod developers a few weeks to breathe by not releasing a new version or update to Minecraft (OK sorry, I admit it, the last one is a dream).

Anyways, you can all relax for the next few weeks, give your F5 key a much earned break and enjoy the awesome mods that are already out there.

[Pisces]

I guess the world will come to an end... a minecraft world only though.

[Dowly]

RedPower 2 released. DW's spotlight part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_QdK365qAs

Part2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_HNbEcFdjE

[Spike88]

Red Power 2 and KSP 18.2 in one day.. The world must be ending. :haha:

[Pisces]

The FTB launcher has the Mindcrack pack out for MC 1.4.6:

Rei's minimap
Voxelmenu
PetroGen
Advanced Machines
BuildCraft
ChickenChunks
ComputerCraft
Enderstorage
Extra Bees
ExtraBiomesXL
Factorization
Forestry
GregTech Mod
IC2 NuclearControl
IC2
Iron Chests
MiscPeripherals
Advanced Solar's
GraviSuite
MFFS
NEI
Obsidiplates
OmniTools
Railcraft
Redpower
SoulShards
StevesCarts
Thaumcraft
ThermalExpansion
Traincraft
Twilight Forest
WRCBE
xycraft

[Nagy]

So are we going to be looking at a new world with some of the FTB Launcher mods for the new year?

[Nagy]

Been playing some FTB Beta pack on SSP. Some of the new biomes are stunning. I reccomend paying a visit to Redwood or Autumn Trees biomes.

[Dowly]

Yea, some of them are quite pretty. :yep:

Just tends to bog down my performance in some areas. :-?

[Pisces]

Yea, some of them are quite pretty. :yep:

Just tends to bog down my performance in some areas. :-?Indeed, and I haven't even made any large machine compexes yet. I'm playing the mindcrack pack. It crapped out on me numerous times when generating the world in the beginning, and last time when waterflow reorganised on a slope due to removal of a source block. The FTB launcher log said the system couldn't keep up. :( But it works for the most part.

[Dowly]

Using the Direworlf20 pack myself.

It's not surprising the new biomes cause performance hits, they tend to be
"busier" than the vanilla ones. :hmmm:

Etho mentioned that Optifine helped in his case, but havent tried that myself.

[Nagy]

Some of the recipes have gotten a lot more complicated. Solar Panels look harder to make now.

Also there's tonnes of new ores that I have no clue what they're used for.

[Dowly]

Think some of the stuff is due to gregtech. Mindcrack pack might have it,
it basically makes things harder to make.

[Pisces]

Think some of the stuff is due to gregtech. Mindcrack pack might have it,
it basically makes things harder to make.Yes, to get Electric wrench I need steel, to make steel I need a blast furnace, for that I need to go to the nether and get me magmacream/blazepowder and netherbrick. Keep dying on the way to the netherfortress, loosing the way, and getting Blazed.

[Kapitän Schneider]

Most of the new ores I think are still waiting for other mods to be implemented. Which is annoying as I have chests full of useless ore.

@Pisces Try tackling the Blazes with a Nano Suit. Will need a few tries to get all the blaze rods you need, as their fire will quickly deplete the suits energy.

[Dowly]

I really dont see a need for the gregtech stuff, hence I use the DW20 pack that doesnt have it. :hmmm:

[Pisces]

...
@Pisces Try tackling the Blazes with a Nano Suit. Will need a few tries to get all the blaze rods you need, as their fire will quickly deplete the suits energy.That's a bit like putting the cart before the horse. Or chicken and egg prioritizing. I only have a geothermal and macerator up and running upto now. Why couldn't they just leave it at refined iron.

[Nagy]

I'm trying a direwolf mod pack world now. Finding lots of Magic-related items that I don't know what to do with.

I'm tempted to try editing together a pack of just the mods I want. (Basically the FTB pack without Gregtech at the moment)

[Dowly]

I see the Quarry can take much more MJ than the 12 or so it used to.
Try powering it with a redstone energy cell and switch the output to 100MJ. :D

[Oberon]

*boots up the FTB modpack, downloads Mindcrack*

Traincraft...what's this?

*googles*

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/270332-132forge-traincraft-formerly-trains-and-zeppelin-mod-318/

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/mother-of-god-meme-240x180.jpg

[Nagy]

I guess I know which pack you'll be hoping the server is running...

[Oberon]

I guess I know which pack you'll be hoping the server is running...

I have no idea what you're talking about... :haha:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8721/20130108202610.png

[Dowly]

The Mindcrack pack seems to be pretty stable from what I've seen watching their videos.

I'd go ahead and disable the portal gun mod, the portals tend to lag. Besides,
they are so damn expensive at least in the DW20 pack that none of us will ever
have one, anywho. :)

Gregtech is a matter of taste, lots of recipes are more expensive with it enabled,
but it also adds a hefty bunch of powerful end game machines.

XyCraft imho can be disabled, don't really see a point of having it. :hmmm:

ExtraBiomesXL can cause lag on less powerful PCs, though Optifine seems
to help quite a bit.

The rest I'd keep, plenty of stuff to do. :yep:

Oh and check the video about them new Ender chests to know how they work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU9X2N1vMps

How one can disable mods server side? I have no idea.

EDIT: Actually, the PortalGun mod has other goodies in it. Like sentry turrets and stuff.

[Arclight]

There may-or-may-not-be-but-most-definitely-is a server running the FTB Direwolf pack. It's set to creative and whatnot and is strictly temporary to see what we want to keep in, and how the server hardware handles the strain. Mainly that last bit, actual mods to be used depends on you lot and is up in the air for the most part.

77.166.66.44:25565 (default MC port, just the IP will do)

[Spike88]

There may-or-may-not-be-but-most-definitely-is a server running the FTB Direwolf pack. It's set to creative and whatnot and is strictly temporary to see what we want to keep in, and how the server hardware handles the strain. Mainly that last bit, actual mods to be used depends on you lot and is up in the air for the most part.

77.166.66.44:25565 (default MC port, just the IP will do)

Weren't we keeping the IP a secret to keep the trolls out?

[Pisces]

Somebody got that exponential neutron emission itch again. Ruined much of spawn.

[Oberon]

I believe this was the basic idea we came up with last night.

Mindcrack, with the following mods activated:

AdvancedMachines
Buildcraft
ComputerCraft
Enderstorage
Extrabees
Extrabiomes
Factorization
Forestry
IC2NuclearControl
Industrialcraft
InventoryTweaks
Ironchest
Lib-voxel
Lib-voxelpacket
miscperipherals
modularforcefieldsystem
mod_advanced solarpanels
mod_intergreated soundpacks
mod_voxelplayer
mod_voxelmenu
mod_zgravisuite
NEI_Plugins
NEI_RedPowerPlugin
OmniTools
Railcraft
Redpower compat
RedpowerCore
Redpowerdigital
RedpowerMechanical
StevesCarts
Thaumcraft
ThermalExpansion
ThermalExpansionNEI
Traincraft
Twilightforest
WR-CBE Addons
WR-CBE Core
WR-CBE Redpower
PetroGen
ReiMiniMap

[Oberon]

Oh, and don't worry about some of the funky landscape on the current map, Task Force has been playing with Operation Plowshare....

[Spike88]

-snip-
Is this different than regular Mindcrack?

Also what's the difference between Mindcrack and Direwolf's packs?

[Oberon]

Is this different than regular Mindcrack?

Also what's the difference between Mindcrack and Direwolf's packs?

Only in that Portalcraft (laggy), xycraft (un-necessary) and gregtech (too complicated) have been removed.

The difference between Mindcrack and Direwolf is that Mindcrack has traincraft. :yep:

[Oberon]

Err...did I just break the server with Mystcraft or is it just me? :hmmm:

EDIT: Nope.avi Back up again.