Here we go again-Ukraine once again

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kovw9dumecM

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In an interview with the Neue Zürcher Zeitung, nuclear weapons specialist Walter Rüegg explains what impact a deployment of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine would have on Switzerland or Germany. As chief physicist, he was a nuclear weapons specialist for the Swiss Army.

Mr. Rüegg, Russia is threatening to use tactical nuclear weapons in the war against Ukraine. What exactly do you mean by these weapons?

We are talking about nuclear weapons with an explosive force of 1 to 100 kilotons of TNT. For comparison, the Hiroshima atomic bomb had an explosive force of 15 kilotons of TNT. Tactical nuclear weapons are used in the battlefield. They are used to achieve tactical advantages in a battle. This is also the reason for their size. It makes no sense to throw megatons into a battlefield. The effect of multiple small nuclear weapons is much greater. Strategic nuclear weapons, on the other hand, are primarily for deterrence. They are actually designed to win a major conflict between two blocs. This would require destroying significant parts of the military and industrial complex with thousands of large bombs. But the chances of mutual destruction are great - that is what deterrence is based on.

Of what type are the tactical nuclear weapons?

Experts agree that today all bombs are only fusion bombs, i.e. hydrogen bombs. This is true even for small tactical weapons. The reason is that one wants to minimize the release of radioactivity in the battlefield. Otherwise, it could hit friendly troops in unfavorable wind conditions.

That means these hydrogen bombs produce less radioactivity than plutonium bombs, such as those used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Yes. The advantage of small, tactical hydrogen bombs is that they produce relatively little fallout. Only the fissile material plutonium is used to detonate the hydrogen bomb. Relatively small amounts are sufficient for this. The fusion reactions themselves do not produce any radioactive fallout. Only some tritium and slightly radioactive bomb material are released. This is negligible compared to the fission products.

How much radioactivity does an explosion release?

The Hiroshima bomb, with an explosive force of 15 kilotons of TNT, left about one kilogram of fission products. But the fuses of tactical nuclear weapons are much smaller. The Russians have a lot of experience with the civilian use of such explosive devices, for example to create artificial lakes. At the same time, they do not want to have fission products. Presumably, the current generation of tactical nuclear weapons is practically clean. We're talking maybe a few hundred grams of fission products.

Is that comparable to the nuclear accidents in Chernobyl and Fukushima?

We are talking about completely different dimensions here. Chernobyl released about 400 times as much of the radioactive isotope cesium-137 as the Hiroshima bomb. And tactical nuclear weapons release even less radioactivity than the Hiroshima bomb because only a small amount of fissile material is needed to detonate the bomb.

So the radiation effect of tactical nuclear weapons is low?

Yes, very low.

In which radius is a high radiation exposure to be expected at all?

That depends on the altitude at which the bomb is detonated. As a rule, it is detonated at a low altitude, because that is when the destruction of military targets is greatest. Then several tens of thousands of tons of earth material vaporize in the fireball. The fireball carries this material several kilometers high into the atmosphere. Afterwards it rains out. This fallout consists of condensed earth material in the form of more or less fine sand, mixed with the fission products and the remaining bomb material. When there is no wind, the material comes back down within a radius of about two kilometers. But it is not always windless. That is, dictated by the wind, there is a typical cigar-shaped distribution. Then the radiation rises sharply for a short time over a distance of 10 to 20 kilometers.

How does the military generally deal with the possibility that a tactical nuclear weapon could be used?

The armies are very well prepared. They know exactly how best to deal with the dangerous situation, both Russian and Ukrainian. I have read the translations of Russian battlefield instructions, and they are very detailed. The civilian population, of course, has no idea; they are then totally dependent on the information provided by civil defense, police and authorities. If the wind blows stronger, the fallout zone can be 30 kilometers or more long, but then the dilution effect is all the greater. And after a few days, the fission products have largely decayed. The rule of thumb is that if you can't see the fallout, it's not dangerous. The fallout comes down clearly visible as sand. If you get into it, you are well advised to find a shelter or a cellar for a few hours or days.

Does that mean then that we here - at a distance of several thousand kilometers - would not notice anything at all?

I doubt that we would be able to detect any of the radioactivity here at all with our normal measuring instruments.

How quickly and in what way would we in the West notice if a tactical nuclear weapon was detonated?

The surveillance satellites would register it instantly. We could also see the earthquake waves, they have typical characteristics. The meteorological institutes would possibly see a shock wave as well. But with radioactivity, we have little chance of measuring anything in the short term.

Doesn't the fireball rise up into the stratosphere, so there could be transport to more distant areas?

No, that can hardly happen with small tactical nuclear weapons. However, it is possible to use larger calibers. Then the fireball can reach the stratosphere. And then it depends on the high-altitude winds: Since there are mainly westerly winds, the chance that we measure anything worth mentioning here in Central Europe is small.

How large is the safety distance that an army would have to maintain in order to use a tactical nuclear weapon?

We talk about two to three kilometers. The heat wave might travel one to two kilometers with a small weapon, the blast wave a similar distance, and the primary radiation might travel 800 meters if you are reasonably protected. The weapons are well suited for battlefield use. But the front is very long. Militarily, it makes no sense to use tactical nuclear weapons today. Modern tanks are reasonably well protected. A small tactical bomb would have to be detonated a few hundred meters from a tank to put it out of action. But the weapons are pulled out of the depots in advance, the intelligence services will register this - this then triggers an advance warning. As a result, one avoids groupings of infantrymen or tanks.

Among the scenarios currently under discussion is a purely deterrent use of a tactical nuclear weapon. What might this look like?

That is one conceivable scenario. For example, a somewhat larger hydrogen bomb could be detonated over the Black Sea as a warning shot. That would have a purely psychological effect - as a deterrent. On the battlefield, the use of tactical nuclear weapons is of little use.

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All not so bad. Here's to a cold beer! :Kaleun_Cheers:

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You do not get the same answer from three expert if you ask them whether Putin would use nuke or not.

This deepl translation is from the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet


Expert: The West would destroy Russia
Former Norwegian defence chief Sverre Diesen says the use of nuclear weapons is getting closer, but the West would destroy Russia if it uses tactical nuclear weapons

The war in Ukraine is horrifying most of the world, as are President Putin's repeated nuclear threats.

According to Norwegian researcher, retired general and former defence chief Sverre Diesen, Putin's constant rattling of the nuclear sabre is worrying.

So writes the Norwegian media Dagbladet.

Internal pressure
According to the researcher, the threshold for Russia to use nuclear weapons has drawn closer, not least because Putin threatens to use tactical weapons, but he keeps making threats.

- In doing so, he puts himself in a kind of coercive position. This is because he will lose credibility every time he repeats these threats without anything happening. That's quite worrying, says Diesen.

Sverre Diesen believes that the lack of Russian warmongering, and thus the declining support in the president's inner circle, makes the nuclear threat more likely.

- Especially as he now has an opposition in his inner circle that is starting to become disaffected, in addition to having people around him who actually want Russia to use tactical nuclear weapons in the belief that this is what it will take to deter the West from continuing its support for Ukraine.

Will be crushed by the West
According to the researcher, the most important thing to avoid Russia using their nuclear weapons is that Putin fears the West's reaction.

- Namely, that the biggest risk of these weapons being used lies in the possibility that Putin may think he can get away with it - that the use of nuclear weapons will not be reciprocated. Hopefully, the Americans have explained very carefully to Putin that he must not imagine that, Diesen tells NRK.

Sverre Diesen points out that if Russia uses nuclear weapons, it would legitimise the West's intervention in the war in Ukraine, which the researcher believes would end the war in defeat for Putin.

- This would have a completely devastating effect on the Russian army in Ukraine. That's the end of it, so to speak.

- They will not necessarily respond with similar weapons, but conventional weapons in the first instance, predicts Sverre Diesen.

Darkness, cold and billions of dead: Here are the consequences of a nuclear war


Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOgoWfABBcA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebSnkHxVefE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbPlkQiBdmg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tixYvbHgpDs

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Ministry of Foreign Affairs responded to Lavrov: "Putin’s regime has lost its chance for negotiations"

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine reacted and commented on the words of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Lavrov about the possibility of negotiations between Ukraine and Russia.

This was stated on Facebook by the spokesman of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Oleh Nikolenko, Censor.NET informs.

"Lavrov's interview on "Russia 1" demonstrates the helplessness of Russian diplomacy. Having become unmanageable abroad, the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry had nothing left but to work out the role of a propagandist for the domestic consumer. From everything said in the interview, only the next attacks on the address of the President of Ukraine. No matter how hard the Russian leadership tries, it cannot break the will of the Ukrainian leader. It is furious with its weakness, which is why it spreads nonsense about "instructions" from Washington and London.

Putin's regime has lost its chance for negotiations. They do not negotiate with terrorists. This is a common world practice. As Volodymyr Zelensky already noted, Ukraine will conduct negotiations with Russia for another Russian president, and also, obviously, another foreign minister. And Lavrov has many more interviews ahead of him - in The Hague, Buchi, Mariupol or in another city that will be determined as the venue for the Russian war criminals' tribunal," Nikolenko said.

It will be recalled that earlier the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Sergey Lavrov, said that President Volodymyr Zelensky may change his mind and start negotiations with Russia.

Read more: Mass shelling of Ukraine shows Putin’s weakness, his army will lose - Stoltenberg Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373048

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The main question now is:

Will or can Putin accept a defeat in Ukraine ?

Markus

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Ukraine received first air defense system Iris-T from Germany, - Spiegel

Ukraine received the first air defense system Iris-T from Germany.

As Censor.NET informs with reference to NV, this is reported by Spiegel.

According to the publication, the Iris-T was handed over to the Ukrainian military on Tuesday, October 11, near the Polish-Ukrainian border.

In total, the German government intends to transfer four air defense systems of this type to the Armed Forces. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373045

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NATO will soon conduct planned exercises of nuclear deterrence forces, - Stoltenberg

In the near future, NATO will conduct planned exercises of the nuclear deterrent forces. They should help prevent a potential escalation from Russia.

As Censor.NET informs, this was reported by RBC-Ukraine with reference to his video briefing by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

"These are long-planned exercises that we conduct annually and have entered into the exercise schedule long before the attack on Ukraine. The Steadfast Noon exercise is aimed at ensuring the effectiveness and safety of our nuclear deterrent forces. Our position is open. It would be strange if we canceled these planned exercises now training because of the war in Ukraine, it would send the wrong signal," said the NATO Secretary General.

He also noted that predictable behavior of NATO countries is a way to prevent escalation. The Alliance intends to maintain peace and prevent attacks on its borders.

"If there were a basis for any misunderstandings in Moscow about our readiness to defend ourselves, it would be a risk for escalation," Stoltenberg stressed.

According to the Financial Times, the week-long Steadfast Noon exercise will involve 14 NATO members and aircraft capable of carrying nuclear weapons, as well as additional assets such as reconnaissance and refueling aircraft. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373037

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International Criminal Court will investigate Russian missile attack, - CNN

The International Criminal Court (ICC) intends to conduct an investigation into the mass missile attack that was carried out by Russia on the territory of Ukraine.

This is reported by CNN, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform.

"International law will ensure the punishment of the guilty and all those who, with the help of weapons and missiles, are able to frighten the most vulnerable," said Karim Khan, the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court.

According to him, the law may not be as strong as many would like, but it is not as weak as many think.

"The employees of my office were in the bunkers last night, along with many other civilians. Ukrainian children, women and men. This is an issue that touches on issues of morality, issues of rights and issues of empathy and humanity. We have to be there to get to the truth," - Khan emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373000

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More than half of tank fleet of Ukraine consists of trophy equipment, - British intelligence

Russian armed forces abandon heavy armored vehicles during retreat or surrender. More than half of the tank fleet of Ukraine consists of trophy vehicles.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Ministry of Defense of Great Britain on Twitter.

As noted in the summary, repurposed trophy Russian equipment currently constitutes a significant part of Ukraine's military equipment. Ukraine is believed to have captured at least 440 Russian main battle tanks and approximately 650 other armored vehicles since the invasion.

According to British intelligence, "more than half of Ukraine's current tank fleet potentially consists of trophy vehicles."

The inability of Russian crews to destroy undamaged equipment before retreating or surrendering shows their poor training and low level of combat discipline. "In the conditions of strong tension of Russian formations in several areas and increasing demoralization of the troops, Russia will most likely continue to lose heavy weapons," the British Ministry of Defense believes. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372057

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A former member of the Russian air force has told BBC News Vladimir Putin is afraid of mutiny from his generals.

Gleb Irisov, who fled the country, is also a former military correspondent for a Russian news agency and says he knows the new commander in charge of the war against Ukraine, Sergei Surovikin.

Speaking to Newshour, Irisov said Surovikin was appointed because of his “deep loyalty" to the Russian regime and president personally.

He added the Russian leader "is now afraid of some kind of mutiny from the generals".

Irisov said he began to oppose the government during his time in the military, observing the "neglect" his command showed towards people.

He described the war as a "catastrophe" for Ukraine and Russia that was dangerous for the world.

Irisov is pessimistic about the chance of change in his home country anytime soon, despite the "huge casualties and severe economic effects" of the war.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-63193124?pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:3b999258-7077-4602-b47c-63bc78e2f6fc&pinned_post_asset_id=634582027fa0fa0b98f06688&pinned_post_type=share

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The first of 4 German Iris-T systems has been handed over to the Ukraine. Surprise, surprise, originally they wanted to send just one, and not before Decembre, but the Americans and other NATO allies seem to have made pressure behind the diplomatic curtain. If it really is as good as is claimed, Russian missiles should have no chance to get through it as long as the system's firing and reloading capacity is not overwhelmed by "flooding" its defence perimeter wiht missiles. However,m this system is brandnew and not evenm the Germans have in in use. Its thus untested under real world conditions.



The system has a maximum range of 40 km and a maximum altitude of 20 km.

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The first of 4 German Iris-T systems has been handed over to the Ukraine. Surprise, surprise, originally they wanted to send just one, and not before Decembre, but the Americans and other NATO allies seem to have made pressure behind the diplomatic curtain. If it really is as good as is claimed, Russian missiles should have no chance to get through it as long as the system's firing and reloading capacity is not overwhelmed by "flooding" its defence perimeter wiht missiles. However,m this system is brandnew and not evenm the Germans have in in use. Its thus untested under real world conditions.



The system has a maximum range of 40 km and a maximum altitude of 20 km.


The Ukrainian has high hopes that this Iris-T would be a gamechanger in the air defence.

I'm only interested in the Hit percentage.

Russia fired 75 missiles against Ukraine yesterday-The Ukrainian air defence shot down 30-something.

Going to be interesting to see if the defence will be more effective.

Markus

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Going to be interesting to see if the defence will be more effective.
Outside its range, it won't. Its only a 40km radius. They consider this to be a short and medium range, not long range AD. Setting up the system after moving takes 10 minutes. Reloading a launcher takes 15 minutes. The launcher has 8 tubes.

I find no info on how many launchers belong to "one system". With only 8 SAMs against a wave of missiles you do not get too far.



This shows the maximum coverage area. Even four such systems leave many "holes" open. The circle around Cherson has a radius of 40 km, diameter 80 km. In real life conditions I expect the range to be lesser than that.



https://i.postimg.cc/G2SN0CLV/Unbenannt.png (https://postimg.cc/njBT7NQG)

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Thank you Skybird-Though you forgot to quote two sentence

"I'm only interested in the Hit percentage."

"Russia fired 75 missiles against Ukraine yesterday-The Ukrainian air defence shot down 30-something."

Would the hit rate have been higher if they had Iris-T ?

Maybe, Maybe not.

I tried to find info about it on the web-Only thing I found of interest was this wiki page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS-T

Markus

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https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-official:-uk-and-us-navy-capable-of-conducting-nord-strea

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Russia says it has detained eight people in connection with Saturday's explosion on a key bridge linking Russia to Crimea.

Its FSB security service said five of those held were Russians, while the others were Ukrainian and Armenian.

It says Kyiv was behind the attack but a Ukrainian official described Russia's investigation as "nonsense".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63225947

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Elon Musk has denied reports he spoke to Vladimir Putin before posting a Twitter poll with his suggestions for ending Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Ian Bremmer, head of the Eurasia Group political risk consultancy, alleged that Mr Musk had personally told him about the conversation with Mr Putin.

But Mr Musk has now refuted this.

"I have spoken to Putin only once and that was about 18 months ago. The subject matter was space," Mr Musk tweeted.

Last week, the Tesla CEO asked his 107.7 million followers to vote on ways to resolve the Ukraine war.

The suggestions included a proposal to hold votes in parts of Ukraine occupied by Russia that the Kremlin says it has annexed. His comments were welcomed by Moscow.

The multi-billionaire said: "Russia leaves if that is will of the people."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63225781

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpzMfAKN9aQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXLyofDAjRE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHl0b7rjPfE

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Elon Musk has denied reports he spoke to Vladimir Putin before posting a Twitter poll with his suggestions for ending Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Ian Bremmer, head of the Eurasia Group political risk consultancy, alleged that Mr Musk had personally told him about the conversation with Mr Putin.

But Mr Musk has now refuted this.

"I have spoken to Putin only once and that was about 18 months ago. The subject matter was space," Mr Musk tweeted.

Last week, the Tesla CEO asked his 107.7 million followers to vote on ways to resolve the Ukraine war.

The suggestions included a proposal to hold votes in parts of Ukraine occupied by Russia that the Kremlin says it has annexed. His comments were welcomed by Moscow.

The multi-billionaire said: "Russia leaves if that is will of the people."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63225781


I'm sure Elon Musk thinks everyone is stupid enough to believe that he isn't in contact with Putrid. Right after his " alleged " conversations, Elon put forth his ideas for the Ukraine to achieve peace. Elon's idea is just a little less than the total capitulation of the Ukraine. Then, Elon's Star link internet setup that the Ukraine is using for communication went down. Elon has admitted he is denying it's use to the Ukraine just when it needs it the most.

We believe you, Elon. No matter how much you lie.

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Maps of Russian Federation with occupied territories of Ukraine began to be issued in Moscow. PHOTO

In Moscow, they started selling "new" maps of Russia, which included the occupied territories of Ukraine.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the propaganda publication RIA Novosti.

The Russian Cartography Center said that maps are produced based on the data of the Rosregistry.

It is noted that the maps will be printed artificially and in small quantities. Source: https://censor.net/en/p3373252

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NATO warned Russian Federation about consequences of using nuclear weapons against Ukraine, - Stoltenberg

NATO currently does not see Russia’s preparations for the use of nuclear weapons, but has clearly proven to the Russian leadership that any use of them in the war against Ukraine will have serious consequences for Russia itself.

This was announced by Jens Stoltenberg, Secretary General of the Alliance, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform.

"We have seen speculation about the possibility of using (tactical) nuclear weapons in Ukraine. We have made it very clear to Russia that this will have dire consequences for itself. Russia knows that a nuclear war cannot be won, so it should never be launched. "We are closely monitoring Russian nuclear forces and have not yet seen any changes in Russia's nuclear positions. But we remain vigilant. We will continue monitoring because nuclear threats, nuclear rhetoric are dangerous and insane," he stressed.

"We have certainly heard nuclear threats from Moscow. All of this creates the most serious escalation since February.... NATO is a defensive alliance, its mission is to prevent conflict, to prevent war. At the same time, we are strengthening our deterrents, which sends a very clear message to Russia: We are here to protect and defend all allies...Today is the scheduled meeting of NATO's Nuclear Planning Group, which is to ensure that NATO's deterrent remains protected, safe and effective," Stoltenberg added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373249

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Supply of air defense for Ukraine will be priority, - Stoltenberg

At the meeting of defense ministers of NATO countries and the Ramstein coalition, the main topic will be the supply of air defense systems to Ukraine.

This was stated by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Censor.NET informs with reference to LIGA.net.

"We will discuss how to dramatically increase support for Ukraine. The top priority will be (supply. - Ed.) more air defense systems for Ukraine," Stoltenberg said.

Currently, Russia's escalation is at its highest level since February 24, the Secretary-General noted. The Russian Federation declared illegal annexation, mobilization, launched chaotic massive missile attacks on Ukrainian cities, and makes nuclear threats.

"We will meet with the Minister of Defense Oleksii Reznikov. The message from NATO allies will be as follows: we stand with Ukraine and support it, we are ready for a long-term path and will support it as long as it is needed," concluded the Secretary General of the Alliance. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373221

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EU did not believe US warning about invasion of Russian Federation into Ukraine, - Borrell

The head of diplomacy of the European Union, Josep Borrell, recognized the flaws in the bloc’s security policy, saying that Brussels did not believe the warnings of the United States that Russia would attack Ukraine.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the EP.

"The war in Ukraine continues. We did not predict how effectively Ukraine would resist. And we did not believe that there would be a war. I must admit that when the Americans told us: "They (Russians. - Ed.) will attack," we were very they believed it reluctantly," he said.

Borrell recalled that US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken called him and said, "It's going to happen this weekend."

"And in two days they started bombing Kyiv. But we did not believe that this would happen, and we did not foresee that Ukraine was ready to resist as fiercely and as successfully as it is doing.
Of course, thanks to our military support, it would not have been possible without it, but the Ukrainians also made an effort," he said.

Borrell also admitted that the EU also did not foresee that Putin could resort to mass mobilization and open nuclear threats.

"I think all of you have read and re-read Putin's last speech when he announced the annexation. Every European citizen should read this speech - and you, in particular. You have to explain to the world what its attitude towards the West means and what are the real reasons for the war," said the head of EU diplomacy. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373201

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Russia keeps 13 ships on combat duty in Black and Azov Seas - Navy of Armed Forces of Ukraine

Up to 7 enemy ships and boats are on combat duty in the Black Sea, 2 of which are armed with operational-tactical missiles "Caliber", the total salvo - 16 missiles.

This was reported by the press service of the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Censor.NET informs.

As of 12.10.2022:

in the Black Sea, up to 7 enemy ships and boats are on combat duty, 2 of which are armed with Kalibr operational-tactical missiles, a total salvo of 16 missiles;
in the Azov Sea, the enemy continues to control sea communications, keeping up to 6 enemy ships and boats on combat duty;
in the Mediterranean Sea - 5 Kalibr cruise missile carriers.
During the day, in the interests of the Russian Federation, the passage of the Kerch-Yenikal Strait was carried out by:

to the Black Sea – 15 vessels, of which 3 vessels continued their movement in the direction of the Bosphorus Strait;
to the Sea of Azov - 29 ships, of which 14 ships moved from the Bosphorus Strait. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373198

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I find it somewhat intrigueing that Vladimer Putin, potentially the "antichrist" of Nostrodemus's prophetic quatrain would call the west & NATO "satanists"...the more so as he is reportedly micromanaging the the ground war against Ukraine; as Hitler, also foretold by NostroBBY, once did from his Polish 'Wolf's Lair' only to discover "the devil is in the details" at which he failed miserably. We cannot afford to assassinate this man, as with Ol' Adolf and the cancelled Operation Foxley to bump him off, Putin's incompetence is the best weapon NATO has on the ground!

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While everyone is looking north and south, the Ukrainians may be opening a third front centrally
Russia again fired dozens of cruise missiles toward Ukrainian cities yesterday. Many of them were intercepted, but some places still hit important Ukrainian energy infrastructure. It seems that with winter approaching, Russia wants to put as many cities as possible without electricity, gas and running water. On the front lines, meanwhile, fighting continues unabated. In recent days, the Ukrainian army entered Luhansk province, which until recently was entirely in Russian hands, and liberated several villages there. The Russian mercenary army Wagner reportedly moved 1,000 men to reinforce the front line, as well as carry out small counterattacks in some places.

While the Ukrainian military also continues to pressure the thousands of Russian soldiers trapped behind the Dnieper River in Kherson in the south, Russian military bloggers and Western analysts alike are noticing how quiet it is around the front line in Zaporizhzhia. Zaporizhzhia is one of four provinces that Russian President Vladimir Putin annexed in late September. Yet the Russian military controls only the southern half, which includes Europe's largest nuclear power plant. The provincial capital of the same name, in the north of the province, is still in Ukrainian hands. Lately, the city has been constantly targeted by Russian missiles. Attacks by Iranian suicide drones on apartment buildings and other civilian targets killed 17 civilians each Thursday and Saturday, and 12 again on Monday.

Igor Girkin, a former Russian commander at the time of the 2014 Donbas war and today one of Russia's most prominent military analysts, predicted just last week a large-scale Ukrainian counteroffensive in the southern region. "Ukraine has massively assembled weapons and equipment there. We expect the main attack to take place here. If the enemy starts a powerful offensive there as in Kharkiv, it is very questionable whether our forces will be able to stop it." President Volodymyr Zelensky himself also cryptically alluded to a new offensive last week, but also asked for patience. "The day will come when we will also be able to talk about successes in the Zaporizhzhia region," echoed

"Militarily, an offensive in Zaporizhzhia would certainly make sense," said military historian Tom Simoens (Royal Military School). "Luring Russian troops to Kherson by openly talking about a counteroffensive there, then striking in Kharkiv to draw even more troops away from the center, and then striking in that weakened spot in the middle: it's a simple, but in theory smart battle plan. Essential is that the Russians 'happen': do they really send troops away from Zaporizhzhia?" With a counteroffensive in Zaporizhzhia, the Ukrainians could aim for the cities of Melitopol or Mariupol. Ukraine would thus drive a wedge through the occupied territory, further isolating the Russians in Kherson. But for that tactic to succeed, the army would have to be able to advance quickly as far as the Sea of Azov, Simoens adds.

"From the current front, that's about 100 kilometers, and that seems particularly ambitious to me. Moreover, that corridor should be wide enough to protect the flanks. If you know for sure that your opponent is close to collapse, that could be the final tick, but I don't think we are at that point at the moment. Moreover, the timing now seems just too late, with the mud season and subsequent winter getting a little closer every day. On the other hand, the Ukrainians have surprised us before." Another unknown but crucial factor is how many troops and equipment Ukraine has available to open an additional front. "Russia is losing a lot of troops and equipment, but that is also the case on the Ukrainian side. Only we hear much less about that. To push so far so quickly, Ukraine should have modern, Western tanks." For now, both the United States and Germany refuse to supply such tanks, such as the Leopard 2.

Possibly, the blowing up of the Crimean bridge also played a role in preparing a new offensive. "If you plan such an attack, it would at least be an important move in the military chess game," Simoens said. It remains to be seen how bad the damage to the rail line across the bridge is, "but it is at least temporarily a major logistical drain." The other rail line that supplies troops in Kherson is already barely usable in practice because it is so close to the front, and regularly under fire from Ukrainian artillery. That makes the M14 highway along the coast one of the main supply routes from east to west, right through Zaporizhzhia. "But the Russian military-logistical system is not geared to that," Simoens said. "That is completely focused on railroads. So without a Crimean bridge, supplying the Russians throughout southern Ukraine will be a huge challenge."

https://www.demorgen.be/nieuws/terwijl-iedereen-naar-het-noorden-en-zuiden-kijkt-openen-de-oekrainers-mogelijk-een-derde-front-centraal~b475fcc4/

[Dargo]

I find it somewhat intrigueing that Vladimer Putin, potentially the "antichrist" of Nostrodemus's prophetic quatrain would call the west & NATO "satanists"...the more so as he is reportedly micromanaging the the ground war against Ukraine; as Hitler, also foretold by NostroBBY, once did from his Polish 'Wolf's Lair' only to discover "the devil is in the details" at which he failed miserably. We cannot afford to assassinate this man, as with Ol' Adolf and the cancelled Operation Foxley to bump him off, Putin's incompetence is the best weapon NATO has on the ground!They (we in the West) say Vladimir Putin leads like a master chess player, we thought decades that the Russians would be paddling in the North Sea within a few weeks all did not pan out. Vladimir Putin is not a chess master, not a military general or an economic genius, he is good at sowing terror among his people or oppressing and extorting the weak, but that is not strange for a Russian they have been doing that for centuries. War is a succession of mistakes, Vladimir Putin is a master of making mistakes, let's not disturb him in that ssshh.

[Jimbuna]

In war against Ukraine, Russia spent significant part of its high-precision guided munitions - Reuters

Russia used up a significant amount of its precision munitions during the invasion of Ukraine.

As reports Censor.NЕТ with reference to Reuters, this was stated by a high-ranking NATO official.

According to him, Russian industry cannot produce all types of ammunition and weapon systems due to Western sanctions.

The official also said that he did not know how long it would take for Russia to mobilize 300,000 military personnel within the limits of partial mobilization in the Russian Federation.

"This may last several months," the NATO representative added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373345

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine will get new air defense systems as fast as they can be delivered - Austin

The Contact Group on Ukraine, which met today on the margins of a two-day meeting of NATO defense ministers, is ready to deliver air defense systems to Ukraine as quickly as the physical capabilities to deliver them allow.

US Defense Minister Lloyd Austin stated this today in Brussels during a press conference following the results of the Contact Group meeting, reports Censor.NЕТ with reference to Ukrinform. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373351

[Dargo]

Ukraine will get new air defense systems as fast as they can be delivered - Austin

The Contact Group on Ukraine, which met today on the margins of a two-day meeting of NATO defense ministers, is ready to deliver air defense systems to Ukraine as quickly as the physical capabilities to deliver them allow.

US Defense Minister Lloyd Austin stated this today in Brussels during a press conference following the results of the Contact Group meeting, reports Censor.NЕТ with reference to Ukrinform. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373351Lloyd Austin:"We're also going to try to provide additional munitions to the existing systems that the Ukrainian forces are using."

[Dargo]

On the day Crimea bridge was damaged, Russia rushed to open 1 road lane and made a big propaganda show of claiming the bridge was open. They even lit it up with lights. But since then, images like this one from today, show road bridge is closed hence giant cues to use ferry. The burnt rail section by fuel train looks cleared, but repair work ongoing and the two rail lines don't look open.

https://i.postimg.cc/yYty4z1x/Fe4cde7-Xo-AA182-F.jpg

According to Russian-appointed head of Crimea, waiting at the ferry crossing in Crimea takes about 3-4 days. And there are about 900 trucks in line at the moment. https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1580230919306502151

[mapuc]

Some thoughts about the possibility on a third offensive mentioned in Dargos comment.

What I know is when you send 3-4 division ahead in an offensive-You must have 1-2 at the rear to protect their retreat if that is needed.

Does Ukrainian have enough of men/division to go on a third offensive ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine is asking West for more MLRS, artillery and air defense equipment, - CNN

According to CNN, Ukraine wants to receive more missile systems, artillery and air defense systems from Western partners. The wish list was included in a handout for members of the Ramstein Coalition.

As Censor.NET informs about this with reference to the LIGA.

According to CNN journalists, Ukraine is asking for additional systems and projectiles of NATO standards in the section "SALW". In the "artillery" section, it is stated that the Armed Forces need more howitzers, self-propelled howitzers, non-standard towed howitzers, and more additional ammunition of 155-mm, 152-mm and 122-mm caliber.

Another priority is air defense: Ukraine is asking for missiles for the Soviet Buk and S-300 systems. It is also about the need to transition to multi-level Western air defense systems and the supply of additional Western and Soviet short-range systems.

Other priorities include radars, coastal defense equipment, tanks and electronic warfare equipment. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373334

[Jimbuna]

It is difficult for NATO to find air defense systems for Ukraine, such weapons are in short supply, - Financial Times

As the Financial Times writes, it is difficult for NATO countries to identify and provide a sufficient number of air defense systems to satisfy Ukraine’s request.

As Censor.NET informs about this with a link to ZN.ua.

Citing Western officials, the publication said Kyiv is asking its allies for better protection after Russia fired missiles at Ukrainian cities on Monday, killing at least 10 civilians. The Ukrainian government considers the purchase of air defense systems a top priority within the framework of Western support.

Germany delivered the first of four promised IRIS-T installations on Tuesday, and US President Joe Biden on Monday promised to continue providing "advanced air defense systems" after speaking with Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky.

Today, representatives of 50 countries gathered in Brussels to discuss how to further meet Kyiv's defense needs against the war unleashed by Vladimir Putin. On Tuesday, Zelensky called on G7 leaders to speed up arms deliveries and asked for help in building an "air shield" for Ukraine. Western officials agree that Kyiv needs more air defense systems, and they are looking for ways to help. But at the same time, they admit that it is not easy to provide such weapons quickly.

The US and other countries are looking for systems that could be transferred in conditions of production shortages and small reserves, two Western officials told the Financial Times. "The countries have already transferred something, but there is a shortage of production capabilities," said one of the interlocutors of the publication on condition of anonymity.

He also added that some NATO countries themselves have been waiting years for the systems needed for their own air defense. The Financial Times reminds that the countries of the alliance, including Poland and Great Britain, have transferred various air defense platforms to Ukraine since the beginning of the Russian invasion. In addition, the Ukrainian army had its own S-300 systems.

So now Ukrainian air defense is very diverse. The US has promised to deliver two more NASAMS systems within the next two months, and Ukraine will receive six more in the long term. On Monday, when Russia launched a massive barrage, the Ukrainian military was able to shoot down 41 of more than 80 Russian missiles. But analysts say that Ukraine's capabilities will still not be enough to protect both civilian centers and troops at the front. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373307

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJAia5Mn-3o

[mapuc]

Me thinks it's not a question if, but when we will see boots on the ground in some way or other.

Zelenskyj has asked for a peacekeeping forces to monitor/protect northern border towards Belarus.

If Nato/UN agree on this-Then Ukrainian can move ten thousands of soldier south.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

^ Not gonna happen.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuZpjpJVFsg

[Dargo]

Some thoughts about the possibility on a third offensive mentioned in Dargos comment.

What I know is when you send 3-4 division ahead in an offensive-You must have 1-2 at the rear to protect their retreat if that is needed.

Does Ukrainian have enough of men/division to go on a third offensive ?

MarkusI think they have do not know they have the material, but this offensive will not happen this year due to the weather.

[mapuc]

This was not good following video clip(in the link) is from 2008.
Today he is supporting Putin's war.

Vladimir Solovyov speaking at the Moscow Arts Theatre in 2008:

A war against Ukraine would be "the most terrible crime you can think of"


https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1580066665353519104

Markus

[Skybird]

Keep track of coins rolling.


https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/?cookieLevel=not-set

[Jimbuna]

^ Most interesting Sky:salute:

[Jimbuna]

Russia has launched fresh attacks on Thursday morning, Ukrainian officials say, hitting a critical infrastructure facility near Kyiv.

A five-storey block of flats was also hit in Mykolaiv - the local mayor says the southern city was "massively shelled"

Russia's Vladimir Putin is expected to meet Turkey's President Erdogan on the sidelines of a summit in Kazakhstan later.

Kremlin officials say Erdogan is likely to "officially" offer to mediate peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's Nato-led allies announce deliveries of advanced air defence weapons to Kyiv, hailed by Ukraine as "historic"

[Jimbuna]

UN General Assembly condemns Russia annexation

The United Nations General Assembly has voted overwhelmingly to condemn Russia's attempts to annex four regions of Ukraine.

The resolution was supported by 143 countries, while 35 states - including China and India - abstained.

As well as Russia, four countries rejected the vote, namely Belarus, North Korea, Syria and Nicaragua.

Although symbolic, it was the highest number of votes against Russia since the invasion.

Last week, in a grand ceremony in the Kremlin, President Vladimir Putin signed documents to make the eastern Ukrainian regions of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson part of Russia.

The agreements were signed with the Moscow-installed leaders of the four regions, and came after self-proclaimed referendums in the areas that were denounced as a "sham" by the West.

The resolution calls on the international community not to recognise any of Russia's annexation claims and demands its "immediate reversal". It welcomes and "expresses its strong support" for efforts to de-escalate the conflict through negotiation.

The countries which voted with Russia all have a longstanding stance of criticising Western governments.

Belarus is considered a satellite state of its neighbour and ally, and its territory was used in Moscow's invasion of Ukraine in February.

As well as China and India, which have attempted to remain neutral on the conflict, parties that abstained from the vote included 19 nations in Africa.

Many African countries have avoided taking sides in the war - which has been seen as a reflection of efforts to maintain longstanding trade ties, or of historic non-alignment policies.

Three of four states that were visited by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in July - Congo-Brazzaville, Ethiopia and Uganda - chose to abstain.

Meanwhile, all four nations that featured on a recent trip by Ukraine's own foreign minister - Ghana, Ivory Coast, Kenya and Senegal - voted at the UN to condemn Russia.

Dmytro Kuleba made his tour in an apparent effort to counter Russian influence in Africa, although he cut short his visit after major Ukrainian cities came under missile fire on Monday.

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky said he was grateful to the countries that did support the resolution.

"The world had its say - [Russia's] attempts at annexation is [sic] worthless and will never be recognised by free nations," he tweeted, adding that Ukraine would "return all its lands".

US President Joe Biden said the vote sent a "clear message" to Moscow.

"The stakes of this conflict are clear to all, and the world has sent a clear message in response - Russia cannot erase a sovereign state from the map," he said.

Dame Barbara Woodward, Britain's ambassador to the UN, said Russia had failed on the battlefield and at the UN, adding that countries had united to defend the world body's charter.

"Russia has isolated itself, but Russia alone can stop the suffering. The time to end the war is now," she said.

The General Assembly vote was triggered after Russia used its veto power to prevent action at the Security Council - the body in charge of maintaining international peace and security. As permanent members, China, the United States, France and the United Kingdom also hold vetoes on the council.

There have been calls for Russia to be stripped of its veto power after the Ukraine invasion.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-63237669

[Jimbuna]

Nato countries to boost Ukraine's missile defence after massive Russian strikes

Ukraine's Nato-led allies have announced deliveries of advanced air defence weapons to Kyiv, after a spate of Russian missile strikes.

The weaponry promised by the UK, Canada, France and the Netherlands includes missiles and radars. The US earlier made a similar pledge. One high-tech system from Germany is already in Ukraine.

The pledges come as Ukraine's allies from 50 countries meet at Nato headquarters in Brussels.

Kyiv hailed the summit as "historic".

Hours later Russian shelling hit the southern city of Mykolaiv on Thursday morning, officials said.

The city's mayor Oleksandr Senkevich said the city was "massively shelled" at around 01:00 local time (23:00 GMT).

"A five-storey residential building was hit, the upper two floors were completely destroyed, the rest - under rubble. Rescuers are working on the site," he said.

It has been a particularly intense week in Ukraine - on Monday and Tuesday, it saw some of its heaviest Russian bombardment in months when more than 100 missiles were launched, hitting energy infrastructure and other non-military targets including a children's playground.

At least 19 people were killed on the first day of the strikes, which included hitting central Kyiv.

Russian President Vladimir Putin says the missile strikes were retaliation for an attack on a key bridge linking Russia and Crimea - Ukraine's southern peninsula annexed by Moscow in 2014.

Russia says Saturday's blast was organised by Ukraine's intelligence agency - a claim rubbished by Kyiv.

The UK will donate air defence missiles, as well as hundreds of aerial drones to support Ukraine's information gathering and logistics capabilities. It will also provide 18 howitzer artillery guns in addition to the 64 already delivered.

"Russia's latest indiscriminate strikes on civilian areas in Ukraine warrant further support to those seeking to defend their nation," said Defence Secretary Ben Wallace.

"These weapons will help Ukraine defend its skies from attacks and strengthen their overall missile defence."

Speaking after the Brussels meeting on Wednesday, US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin said "we're going to do everything we can to make sure that they [Ukrainians] they have what's required to be effective".

French President Emmanuel Macron said Paris would supply air defence systems to Ukraine.

In an interview to France 2 television, he did not specify which systems would be sent. But he did say their main function would be to protect the population from drones.

The Netherlands said it would deliver €15m (£13m; $14.5m) worth of air defence missiles.

Dutch Defence Minister Kajsa Ollongren said the Russian attacks "can only be met with unrelenting support for Ukraine and its people".

Canada pledged to provide more than C$47m ($34m; £31m) worth of military aid, including satellite communications and drone cameras.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's military announced earlier on Wednesday that the first of several "state-of-the-art IRIS-T SLM has been delivered from Germany to Ukraine". It said the air defence system would help protect the country "against terror".

President Zelensky has for months been asking Ukraine's allies to provide air defence systems to create an "air shield" for Ukraine.

In his video address late on Wednesday, the Ukrainian leader said: "The more audacious and cruel Russian terror becomes, the more obvious it is to the world that helping Ukraine to protect the sky is one of the most important humanitarian tasks for Europe of our time."

"I believe that we will cope with this task," he added.

Russia has repeatedly warned Ukraine's allies against supplying advanced weaponry to Kyiv, stressing this would make them participants of the war that Mr Putin began on 24 February.

The West has accused Moscow of nuclear sabre-rattling, following a string of Russian military defeats on the battlefield.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63236367

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y07agCxfjhU

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fln6-j2MUQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqeFw_1Uy7w

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plB0bydNd98

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine joining Nato 'would guarantee World War Three', says Russia

Ukraine joining Nato would mean "a guaranteed escalation" to a third world war, the deputy secretary of Russia's Security Council has said.

Alexander Venediktov, told the state TASS news agency in an interview on Thursday: "Kyiv is well aware that such a step would mean a guaranteed escalation to a World War Three.

"Apparently, that's what they are counting on – to create informational noise and draw attention to themselves once again."

Venediktov also repeated a Russian position that the West, by helping Ukraine, indicated that "they are a direct party to the conflict".

It comes after Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian president, announced a surprise bid for fast-track membership of the military alliance at the end of September.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-war-latest-ukraine-joining-nato-would-guarantee-world-war-three-says-russia/ar-AA12TL0z?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=f39a0b6b21a349e5987bac2a81509268

[Jimbuna]

Russia's 'irrecoverable losses' hit '90,000' in Ukraine war as Putin's plan crumbles

Vladimir Putin has suffered another blow after it was claimed Russia's "irrecoverable losses" in the war with Ukraine have hit 90,000 as the tyrant's battle plan crumbles. The eye-watering figure has been reported by Russian breaking news service Meduza, which cites the original report from Russian media project iStories (or Vazhnye Istorii). It says one of two sources of the above information works in the Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB), while the other is a former state security officer.

Meduza wrote on Twitter: "Russia's 'irrecoverable losses' in the war with Ukraine have just become known: according to an FSB source, that figure is 90K.

"This includes troops who were killed, went missing, died from wounds, or were disabled and cannot return to military service."

Earlier today, the Ukrainian Defence Ministry posted its latest update on the "losses of Russian occupiers in Ukraine, from the start of the war on February 24.

It said there have so far been 63,380 "eliminated personnel", with thousands of tanks, artillery and armoured combat vehicles also destroyed in battle.

The latest 90,000 losses estimate is close to figures recently quoted by both the Pentagon in Washington and the British Ministry of Defence (MoD).

In August, the Pentagon estimated that between 70,000 and 80,000 Russian troops had been killed or critically wounded since the start of the war in Ukraine on February 24.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-s-irrecoverable-losses-hit-90-000-in-ukraine-war-as-putin-s-plan-crumbles/ar-AA12TiOu?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=974d499580bd45e5b4fa738441c050b6

[Jimbuna]

If Russian Federation strikes Ukraine with nuclear weapons, EU will definitely respond, - Borrell

The European Union will definitely respond if Russia dares to launch a nuclear attack on Ukraine.

EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Josep Borrell said this during his participation in the European Diplomatic Academy, Censor.NET reports with reference to RBC-Ukraine.

"A nuclear attack on Ukraine will provoke a response from the EU, the USA, and NATO. It will not be nuclear, but its power from a military point of view will be great," Borrell stressed.

Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron said that his country would not use nuclear weapons in the event of a Russian nuclear attack on Ukraine. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373494

[Jimbuna]

NATO already perceives Ukraine as eastern shield for whole of Europe, - Reznikov

Mass shelling by Russia brought the world’s support for Ukraine to a new level.

This was stated by Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform.

"Ministers tell me - you have no idea what level of support we have for Ukraine now, it just goes "over the top" again, everyone tells us - you're going to Ramstein, - support Ukraine - that is, people demand it from them," he said.

Reznikov noted that the Russian aggressor is also a kind of "sponsor" of international solidarity with Ukraine - as soon as the emotional wave in Western countries regarding the events in Ukraine begins to calm down, the Russians "throw" some new atrocity.

This was the case after the terrible events in Buch and Izyum, and this was the case after the massive missile attack on the whole of Ukraine when 120 "Calibres", "Iskanders", "Shaheds" and everything else were fired in two days. According to the minister, these strikes brought the world's support for Ukraine to a new level.

"Yesterday, I heard speeches and in each speech - Oleksiyya, pass it on to the Ukrainians, we are proud of you, you inspire us, we are impressed, we thank you. And every time basic things are heard. The first is that you are waging a war not only for yourself but also for us and for the entire democratic world - and this is not pathos, these are the words of each of the ministers. The second thesis is that we assure you that we will be with you until the end, no matter how long it takes, in the short, medium, and long term," Reznikov said.

He said that during these meetings, the supply of necessary weapons systems to Ukraine was discussed, as well as the development of the industrial production of weapons, ammunition, and new systems that Ukraine needs.

"That is, they think six, eight, twelve months ahead - regardless of when this war ends with our victory, they understand that it will be necessary to strengthen the defense of Ukraine. They already understand my argument that Ukraine is an eastern shield for the whole of Europe," the Ukrainian minister said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373486

[Jimbuna]

"There can be no diplomacy with Russia today," - Zelensky

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, during a speech before PACE deputies, said that he does not consider diplomacy with Russia possible under the current conditions.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the European Parliament.

"Diplomacy is the most powerful tool when weapons do not work. There can be no diplomacy with Russia today. There can be no such diplomacy as there was. There can be no respect for the leadership that kills, captures, does not respect international law," the head of state said.

The President emphasized that there cannot be such a situation when the leading European states and the world support the territorial integrity of Ukraine and isolate Russia, while "some states continue to talk as if nothing is happening."

"Therefore, it seems to me that today diplomatic isolation of Russia is an important pressure," Zelensky said, adding that Russians should know that this war is happening in Ukraine because of the leadership they elected. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373456

[Jimbuna]

PACE recognized Russia as country with terrorist regime

The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe adopted a resolution calling the Russian Federation a terrorist regime.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to European Pravda.

On October 13, at the autumn session of the PACE, a document entitled "Further Escalation of the Russian Federation's Aggression Against Ukraine" was presented. In particular, it states that Russia's aggression against Ukraine "must be unequivocally condemned as a crime in itself, as a violation of international law and as a major threat to international peace and security.

Also, an amendment was made to the resolution, which proposed to "declare the Russian Federation a terrorist regime." During the voting, 79 deputies supported it, two were against and one abstained. An amendment was also included in the resolution calling for air defense systems to be provided to Ukraine.

The resolution itself was adopted unanimously. 99 members of the deputies present in the hall voted for it, one abstained.

PACE became the first international organization to recognize Russia as a terrorist state. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373506

[Skybird]

FOCUS writes:
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They are two of the most powerful men on this planet. Millions of people care about what they say and do. One sits in Russia, wages a war of aggression against Ukraine and is considered an unpredictable despot.

The other lives in Texas, runs Tesla and is the richest man on earth, with a total fortune of around $200 billion. These two men, Vladimir Putin and Elon Musk, are said to have spoken on the phone recently.

At least that's what the U.S. online magazine " Vice " reports with reference to Ian Bremmer, the head of the political consulting firm Eurasia Group. He claims in a newsletter that Musk told him Putin was "ready for negotiations."

The conversation with the Russian president reportedly took place before Musk shared his "peace plan" for Ukraine on Twitter on Oct. 3. A "peace plan" in which several proposals appear that coincide with the Kremlin's ideas.

These include Ukraine's renunciation of the Crimean peninsula annexed by Russia and a neutral status for the country. It was foreseeable that the contribution would provoke criticism.

Especially in Ukraine, the multi-billionaire's tweet did not go down well at all. "The only result is that no Ukrainian will ever buy your ****ing Tesla crap. **** off," rumbled Andrij Melnyk, still ambassador to Germany.

Presidential adviser Mychailo Podolyak put it more diplomatically, saying a "better peace plan" would be the liberation of all Ukrainian territories. Russia would then be completely demilitarized, would have to give up its nuclear weapons and "can no longer threaten anyone."

The Kremlin, on the other hand, welcomed Musk's proposal to end the war. Even if Moscow rejects real referendums in Russian-occupied territories, i.e., one of the core demands.

Musk, meanwhile, denies having coordinated with the Kremlin chief in advance. "I've only talked to Putin once, and that was 18 months ago," he wrote on Twitter. "It was about space travel." In another post, he warned against trusting Bremmer.

Who is telling the truth - Musk or political advisers - is unclear. But the "peace plan" was undoubtedly penned by the Tesla CEO. And regardless of whether he spoke to Putin on the phone beforehand or not, the proposals it contains coincide in many cases with the Kremlin's demands.

For many, it looks as if Musk wants to stab Ukraine in the back and suck up to Russia. After all, his "peace plan" clashes with Ukraine's goals of liberating its entire territory and slipping under the NATO umbrella.

It is also possible that the Tesla boss wants to prevent a nuclear war by any means necessary. In any case, he showed concern on Twitter. On Sunday, he wrote that the danger of a nuclear catastrophe is "rapidly" increasing.

"I lie awake all night thinking about how to de-escalate this war." Moscow had repeatedly threatened to use nuclear weapons in the past. Musk apparently takes this very seriously, wants to get involved geopolitically.

The heavily wealthy American has been involved in the Ukraine war for some time now anyway. A few days after the Russian invasion began, Musk made his Starlink satellites available to Ukraine.

The reason: Moscow had partially cut off the neighboring country from the Internet through a cyber attack. Musk's technology has since enabled Ukrainian soldiers to communicate securely in battle, control drones and send videos. Frontline fighters say without Starlink, the army would collapse in short order.

True, most of the 20,000 or so wearable receivers are paid for by the West. Still, Musk has control over the Starlink satellites. He can shut them down if he wants. And has thus become a central figure in the Ukraine war.

The consequences that can result if the satellite system fails were demonstrated a few days ago. After Ukraine reported major recaptures, there were disruptions on several front lines, including in the Kherson and Zaporizhzhya regions, according to a report in the Financial Times.

According to the report, the front line in the east of Kharkiv, Donetsk and Luhansk was also affected by the outages. A Ukrainian government official told the Financial Times that the Starlink problems resulted in a "catastrophic loss of communications."

Exactly why the outages occurred is still unclear. Some military bloggers suggested Musk had struck a deal with Putin, to Ukraine's detriment.

However, the fact that the satellites did not work may also have had completely different causes. For example, experts believe a technical malfunction is possible, or a cyberattack launched by the Russians against Starlink.

Neither SpaceX, Musk's spaceflight company behind Starlink, nor the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense have yet commented on the matter. And the Tesla boss himself has also remained silent. What happens on the battlefield is secret, he wrote on Twitter.
Musk is an entrepreneur, not a politician

In the end, Musk is an entrepreneur, not a politician. He says and does what he thinks is rational. How close his contact with Putin really is cannot be said with certainty. But there are certainly indications that speak against a pact.

What the debate about Musk's "peace plan" tweet ultimately also shows is that the Ukraine war is causing growing unrest among entrepreneurs.

Or as the "Magdeburger Volksstimme" comments, "The war in Eastern Europe is cutting into profits, and considerably so. That's why Musk's move will hardly be resented in business circles, even here in Germany, behind closed doors."
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[Jimbuna]

SSU is checking whether Antonov employees helped Russia to destroy Mriya

Employees of the Security Service of Ukraine, as part of a criminal investigation, are investigating employees of Antonov State Enterprise for alleged cooperation with Russia, which could have led to the destruction of the world’s largest An-225 Mriya aircraft at the beginning of a full-scale invasion.

As Censor.NET informs, this was reported by the Prosecutor General's Office in response to a request from Ukrinform.

"Prosecutors of the Specialized Prosecutor's Office in the military and defense sphere of the Office of the Prosecutor General carry out procedural management of pre-trial investigations in criminal proceedings on the fact that the officials of the State Enterprise "Antonov" may have provided assistance to a foreign state - the Russian Federation - or its representatives in carrying out subversive activities against Ukraine, which led to the destruction of the An-225 "Mriya" aircraft and others during the military aggression of the armed forces of the Russian Federation," the message reads.

It is noted that the case is being investigated by the Main Investigative Department of the SSU. Investigative actions are ongoing, a number of examinations have been conducted in the case.

In addition, the OGP informed that the employees of the Main Investigative Department of the National Police are also investigating the case of improper performance of their official duties by the officials of the State Enterprise "Antonov". In particular, the An-225 Mriya aircraft was not evacuated, which led to its destruction during the military aggression of the armed forces of the Russian Federation.

As reported at the end of February of this year, as a result of an air attack by Russian troops on the Hostomel airport near Kyiv, one of the largest and most powerful aircraft in the world, the Ukrainian-made An-225 "Mriya", was burned.

The commander of the An-225 "Mriya" Dmytro Antonov told "Glavkom" in an interview that the "Mriya" plane could have been saved. In particular, at the time of the invasion of the Russian Federation, DP Antonov had a reserve airfield leased for 5 years in Leipzig, Germany, a NATO airfield specifically for "Mriya". The crew of the liner was ready to take off from Hostomel to Germany in the morning of February 24 and even started the engines, but they never received the take-off command.

The commander of the aircraft emphasized that the pilots could not have taken the aircraft without the command team, but there was a lot of evidence that the aircraft from Hostomel needed to be moved as soon as possible.

At the end of March, DK "Ukroboronprom" suspended the director of SE "Antonov" Serhiy Bychkov.

On April 4, 2022, the head of the Ukroboronprom concern, Yuriy Husev, signed order No. 141, according to which Bychkov was finally dismissed from the position of general director of the Antonov state-owned enterprise. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373585

[Jimbuna]

NATO will provide Ukraine with equipment to suppress drones, - Stoltenberg

NATO will soon supply Ukraine with systems to suppress the work of military drones.

This was stated by the Secretary General of the Alliance, Jens Stoltenberg, Censor.NET informs with reference to Interfax-Ukraine.

"We are providing fuel, winter uniforms and medicines as part of NATO's comprehensive aid package for Ukraine. Also, NATO will soon hand over anti-drone equipment to Ukraine," he said.

He assured that the supply of means against drones will allow Ukraine to protect its most important infrastructure.

He also stated that in the long term, the Alliance will help Ukraine transition from weapons developed by the USSR to modern weapons. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373579

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdzbyfWSOvw

[Jimbuna]

Reznikov: discussion on Ukraine’s accession to NATO has already begun

The Minister of Defense of Ukraine, Oleksiy Reznikov, states that the discussion on Ukraine’s accession to NATO has already begun.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Radio Liberty.

"The discussion has already begun... On the sidelines, I was very pleased to listen to the ministers, they say: "If we understand that Russia was identified as the main threat to NATO at the Madrid Summit - this is directly written in their statement, and today Ukraine is demonstrating to the whole world that it has the best expertise to oppose the Russian army, restrain it and already win - what additional arguments are needed regarding the acceptance of Ukraine into NATO? This is already weaving the fabric of the future decision," Reznikov said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373588

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFecLVinLEA

[Dargo]

New satellite images from Maxar Technologies taken Wednesday show only cars crossing the Kerch Bridge in Crimea because of the heat of the burning fuel rail care rail is molten (Steel only melts around 1500 degrees Celsius) concrete is also damaged. Concrete has low porosity and very fine pores. When the temperature of concrete exceeds 200 degrees Celsius, the water present begins to evaporate. But because concrete is so dense and impermeable, the steam released cannot escape. This causes the pressure to increase, and eventually the gases are released with a big bang. As the temperature increases, various chemical conversions take place in the cement brick, with the cement brick losing its cohesion.

https://i.postimg.cc/pXzYtvHs/Fe9i58k-WAAIvvh-G.jpg

[Dargo]

A second wave of mobilization seems to have begun in Russia. More and more reservists are being called up to fight in the so-called special military operation, as it should still be called. In some Russian regions, such as Rostov and Kursk, governors say they have been given new targets for the mobilization campaign. "The region has started the second phase," Russian news agency RIA Novosti quoted the governor of Kursk as saying. It has been in the air here for weeks that the "partial" mobilization will take place in three phases. The independent television channel Dozhd, among others, published audio recordings from military recruitment offices that would show that a second wave began on Oct. 10 and a third is coming in November. Kremlin spokesman Peskov refuted this. According to him, there is no such thing as "waves of mobilization," and "he has no idea what the regional governors are talking about.

Yet mobilization does seem to be happening on a larger scale, including in major cities such as Moscow and St. Petersburg. This week, for example, there were raids on several mini-hotels and hostels in Moscow. Dozens of people were taken straight from dorm rooms to "mobilization offices" set up in theaters and cinemas, Radio Free Liberty writes. The boys, some of whom said they had no military experience, were given the call-up letter and a uniform in their hands and were required to report to their local registration office the next day. Many conscripts just decided to rent a room in a hostel to avoid military service. The idea is that they will then not be at their registration address to be picked up. Meanwhile, homeless people in Moscow are also being mobilized to join the fight. Subpoenas have been handed out at several shelters in the city, the independent iStories writes. Checks are also reportedly being carried out at metro stations in Moscow this week, where men on the street are being asked about their documents and military experience. And in St. Petersburg, doctors are "strongly advised" not to travel abroad for the time being. Medical personnel may also be sent to the front, according to the mobilization decree.

Since the beginning of the "partial mobilization," at least 14 reservists have died even before reaching the front. They died at Defense Ministry training centers. Authorities are very reluctant to comment on the incidents, putting the blame on the victims. Most are said to have died from a medical cause, such as thrombosis or a heart attack in their sleep. Some are also said to have committed suicide. Family members write on social media that they do not believe this. They cite poor conditions (cold, sleeping outside, home-brewed vodka) and violent riots as the cause of death. Also, this week, regional media published the first reports of newly mobilized reservists who died on the front lines. The first is human rights activist Pavel Chikov. He was reportedly killed in the Lugansk region. Today, media in the Urals write about the deaths of five mobilized reservists from Chelyabinsk. "We express our sincere and deep condolences. We will provide all necessary assistance to the families and friends of our fallen soldiers," local authorities said.

In recent weeks, there has been much open criticism of the chaotic mobilization in Russia. The army leadership has been accused of sending untrained men to the front, and there has been much outrage over the poor conditions for reservists. For example, their shelters are often filthy, they suffer from cold and boredom. There are also complaints about substandard medical facilities and the poor condition of the weapons they receive, such as rusty kalashnikovs. Hundreds of thousands of Russians have fled the mobilization. Kremlin spokesman Peskov responded to the civil unrest yesterday. He admitted that many Russians "noticed the mistakes made during the partial mobilization" and stressed that "measures are being taken to put the system in order."

https://nos.nl/artikel/2448248-mobilisatie-in-rusland-gaat-verder-tweede-golf-lijkt-op-gang-gekomen

[mapuc]

^ You know it would contradict what a friend wrote about the Russian army and it's might.

Not so long ago about an hour ago I read a long written issue on my friends wall on how good the Ruskies are and they wasn't run over-They withdraw in order.

While reading it I was thinking in inviting him to our forum and this thread.

I made the choice not to.

Markus

[Dargo]

^ You know it would contradict what a friend wrote about the Russian army and it's might.

Not so long ago about an hour ago I read a long written issue on my friends wall on how good the Ruskies are and they wasn't run over-They withdraw in order.

While reading it I was thinking in inviting him to our forum and this thread.

I made the choice not to.

MarkusThe fronts tells the might of the Rusky this army has surpassed Napoleons and Hitlers army in tenfold loser status. :D

[Dargo]

Thanks to the generosity of the russian federation, the first batch of new T-90A tanks entered into service with #UAarmy. Particularly generous because at the same time the ruscists are launching a program to restore 60-year-old T-62 tanks for their own armed forces. https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1580574413220876289 :har:

https://i.postimg.cc/HLkpbb4F/Fe9-UDJ7-X0-AY3-Uhb.jpg

[mapuc]

The fronts tells the might of the Rusky this army has surpassed Napoleons and Hitlers army in tenfold loser status. :D

I can only speak for myself:
I do NOT know what's going on at the battlefield in Ukraine-I have chosen to take the standpoint Pro Ukraine and believe what is said about Ukraine, it's army and what's happening to the Russian army.

Furthermore.

This story had confused me-What do they mean by the Sky over Ukraine is being closed/is now closed ?

The closing of the Ukrainian sky begins

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1580590873846616064

The answer was in the comments.

[Dargo]

Signals from Moscow that they may support an evacuation of at least some people from Kherson. A sign possible of two things--the Russian Army there is not in the best of shape, and they are already starting to feel a supply pinch.
Russia announces Kherson evacuation, raising fears city will become frontline

Deputy PM says residents will be helped to move away from southern Ukrainian region partly occupied by invaders Moscow has announced it will evacuate Kherson after an appeal from the Russian-installed head of the region, raising fears the occupied city at the heart of the south Ukrainian oblast will become a new frontline.

Marat Khusnullin, a Russian deputy prime minister, told state television on Thursday that residents would be helped to move away from the region in south Ukraine, which remains only partly occupied by invading troops due to a successful Ukrainian counterattack in recent months.

“The government took the decision to organise assistance for the departure of residents of the [Kherson] region to other regions of the country,” Khusnullin said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/13/russia-announces-kherson-evacuation-raising-fears-city-will-become-frontline

[Dargo]

I can only speak for myself:
I do NOT know what's going on at the battlefield in Ukraine-I have chosen to take the standpoint Pro Ukraine and believe what is said about Ukraine, it's army and what's happening to the Russian army.

Furthermore.

This story had confused me-What do they mean by the Sky over Ukraine is being closed/is now closed ?



https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1580590873846616064

The answer was in the comments.Yes, me to a no-fly zone of Ukraine would mean NATO enforcing that but that they're not saying and anti-air defense systems NATO does not have enough to close Ukraine airspace either.

[mapuc]

Norwegian NRK writes:


Russian arrested on his way out of Norway with drones
A Russian has admitted to flying drones in Norway after he was arrested by Norwegian police on his way to Russia

Norwegian police arrested a Russian man on Tuesday who was trying to cross the Norwegian-Russian border with two drones in his possession. This is according to the state-owned broadcaster NRK.

The Russian admits to having flown the drone in Norway, his defence lawyer tells the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet.

The Russian was arrested in Storskog, a border crossing between Norway and Russia on Tuesday. Large amounts of film were seized, NRK reports.

Storskog is located in the region of Troms and Finnmark.

- He was stopped at Storskog on 11 October on his way out of Norway. It was a normal check by customs and police, where they discovered drones in his luggage, says police prosecutor Anja Mikkelsen Indbjør in Finnmark police district to NRK.

On Thursday, the man was brought before a judge for remand in custody. The police asked for two weeks in prison, while the man asked to be released, says the defense.

The man is charged with violating the sanctions law and sanctions regulations, which came into force after Russia invaded Ukraine.

According to NRK, the paragraph stipulates that Russian companies may not fly to Norway.

In addition to the drones, the man also had several hard drives with him. The police will review the seizure and look at the extent and content of the drone recordings.

Minister of Justice in Norway Emilie Enger Mehl from the Centre Party (Sp) has been informed about the case.

- According to the sanctions regulations, it is forbidden for Russian persons to fly drones in Norway.

- We have recently taken a number of measures to make ourselves better equipped to meet an increased intelligence threat and opportunities to avoid someone circumventing the sanctions rules, says the Minister of Justice.

If the charges against the man are extended, the Norwegian intelligence service, PST, will take over the investigation. The PST tells the VG newspaper that it has been actively involved in the case.

- PST is in close contact with the local police, and the preliminary investigation will help to determine whether the investigation should be taken over by PST or continue with the local police, says communications manager Trond Hugubakken to VG.

PST says it is too early to say whether the drone flight may be espionage

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Markus

[Dargo]

The joint regional group created and the increase in the number of Russian troops on the territory of Belarus can be used to attack Ukraine.

This was announced by the Commander of the United Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Serhii Naiev, on the air of the telethon, іnforms Censor.NЕТ with reference to АrmyInform.

"With the accumulation of forces and means of the armed forces of the Belarusian and Russian Federation will pose a threat of a repeat offensive in the northern operational zone, in particular, against the city of Kyiv. The level of these military threats is constantly measured by intelligence and partners. We are also responding to an increase in this threat, taking measures to ensure that our troops are in appropriate numbers and with higher capabilities. As of now, the situation is fully under control, and we are ready for an offensive from the Republic of Belarus as of today," Naiev said.

In addition, he noted that currently on the territory of Belarus there are servicemen of the Russian Armed Forces - about 1,000 people. There are also six Russian strike aircraft, four rocket launchers of tactical operational complex "Iskander" and 12 surface-to-air missile systems S-400.

"There are activities to prepare the airfield network and infrastructure for the deployment of Russian troops at this base on the territory of Belarus. Today another check on the readiness of the armed forces of the Republic of Belarus to act, train, and deploy to certain areas has been announced on the territory of the Republic of Belarus. That is another demonstration of their readiness and artificial increase in the degree of tension," said Naiev. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373610

[Jimbuna]

Ukrainian officials have urged the Red Cross to conduct a mission to a notorious prison camp in the Russia-occupied east of the country.

The Ukrainian president's chief of staff, Andriy Yermak, demanded that the Red Cross (ICRC) visit the Olenivka prison in Donetsk within three days.

"We just can't waste more time. Human lives are at stake," he tweeted.

Last month, the Red Cross tried to secure access to the camp, but said it was denied by Russian authorities.

The Olenivka prison has been under the control of Russian-backed authorities in Donetsk since 2014, and conditions are said to be extremely poor.

In July, dozens of Ukrainian prisoners were killed in explosions at the camp, which both sides blamed on each other. Kyiv said the prison was targeted by Russia to destroy evidence of torture and killing, while Moscow blamed Ukrainian rockets. Without an independent investigation, however, the truth remains unknown.

Those detained at the site include members of the Azov battalion, who were the last defenders of the city of Mariupol and whom Russia has sought to depict as neo-Nazis and war criminals.

This is not the first time Ukraine has applied pressure to international organisations to investigate what is going on at the prison.

Mr Yermak said he had raised the issue again during a video conference with officials from the ICRC and other international organisations.

He has demanded the trip be made by Monday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63251927

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsVyl-2vUg0

[Jimbuna]

Total combat losses of Russia since beginning of war - about 64,300 people, 268 planes, 240 helicopters, 2521 tanks, 1566 artillery systems, 5172 armored vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

The Russian invaders, who invaded the territory of Ukraine, continue to suffer losses. As of the morning of October 14, the loss of enemy personnel are approximately 64,300.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24/02 to 14/10 are approximately:

personnel - about 64,300 (+500) people were liquidated,
tanks - 2521 (+10) units,
armored combat vehicles - 5172 (+5) units,
artillery systems - 1566 (+107) units,
MLRS - 362 (+5) units,
air defense equipment - 186 (+3) units,
aircraft - 268 (+0) units,
helicopters - 240 (+0) units,
UAVs of operational-tactical level - 1199 (+17),
cruise missiles - 316 (+0),
ships/boats - 16 (+0) units,
automotive equipment and tank trucks - 3944 (+9) units,
special equipment - 142 (+2). Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373651

[Jimbuna]

Russia has 25-28% of number of missiles left as of February 24 - Danilov

Russia has already spent 2/3 of the missiles it had at the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine.

This was stated by the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Oleksiy Danilov, reports Censor.NЕТ with reference to Gordon.

Danilov was asked how many missiles Russia has left and if the time is near when it won't be able to use them.

"I can say that that time is already approaching. Our intelligence works flawlessly. We know with mathematical error the number of missiles left on the territory of the Russian Federation. We are talking about high-precision missiles, which are the most troublesome for us," answered the NSDC secretary.

Soviet-era missiles, such as the S-300 anti-aircraft missiles, Russia "still has some," but there are far fewer than there have been since the start of the invasion, Danilov said.

"The terrorist country, the aggressor country Russian Federation is getting weaker, weaker and weaker again every day. We are monitoring all these things. I have no right to give you the absolute numbers you want to hear from me. But if we take percentages, we are talking about 25-28% of the total number they had as of February 24," added the secretary of the NSDC. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373627

[Skybird]

This story had confused me-What do they mean by the Sky over Ukraine is being closed/is now closed ?

They dream thnat all terriotry will one day be denied to missiles gettign thorugh. They just got that German missiole defence system, and clap hands over that, thats all.


You cannot defend ALL airspace over such a huge landmass with short and medium range systems, air defences in Ukraine always will be just punctual, like they are anywhere else, too. The Europeans just relaise that there'S are like that, too, and want to beef it up in coming years. Especially the German air space - what a surprise - is an open hole in the sky. We were so bright to think we do not need air defence anynmore, and then dismantled our last remaining dedicated air defence unit, already years ago. We currently have no defence potential against drones, for exmaple, AFAIK.

[Catfish]

^ thinking of Germany and its capabilities two statements from long ago come to mind:
"Das Reich hat kein Dach" and
"Wir haben noch zwei einsatzfähige Strahljäger"
(April 1945, probably)

[Dargo]

Russia's government has ordered contractors to finish repairs to a key bridge linking annexed Crimea to Russia by July 2023.

The bridge was damaged by a blast last Saturday which officials say left at least three people dead.

Russia blamed Ukraine for the attack but Kyiv has not said it was behind it.

The 19km (12-mile) bridge, Europe's longest, is a key supply route for Russian forces in Ukraine, but heavy goods vehicles are unable to use it.

The explosion caused midway sections of one of the two carriageways of the bridge to collapse into the sea and also damaged the railway line.

Currently, lorries are forced to queue for a ferry, in a process which is thought to take several days.

The bridge has, however, been reopened for rail and light road traffic.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63255611

[Dargo]

The Office of President Volodymyr Zelenskyi once again emphasized the impossibility of a second offensive from Belarus.

"Russia still wants to pressure Belarus to take part in the ground operation. Belarus does not have the reserves and forces for this, and cannot do it physically. Therefore, Belarus conducts all the information operations that indicate that they seem to be actively involved in something... We clearly see the readiness of Belarus to conduct training or certain actions that should simulate something in a military sense. Not more than that," Mykhailo Podolyak, the anti-crisis adviser to the OP chairman , said in a comment to Radio Liberty.

At the same time, according to him, Ukraine, "understanding certain risks," strengthened its defenses on the Belarusian border. Currently, Belarus is not a direct participant in the full-scale war in Ukraine, but it is providing logistical support to the Russian invasion, which began on February 24, when some Russian troops entered Ukraine through the Belarusian border.

Lukashenka's regime granted Russian troops access to the territory of Belarus, from where Russian forces carry out sorties to bombard Ukrainian cities, as well as launch missiles into the territory of Ukraine.

International sanctions were introduced against Belarus for complicity in the war started by Russia. Oleksandr Lukashenko acknowledged the participation of Belarus in Russia's war against Ukraine , but emphasized that Belarusians "do not kill anyone."

On October 10, the anti-crisis adviser to the head of the President's Office Mykhailo Podolyak assured that there is currently no question of a repeated invasion of Ukraine by Belarus.

At the same time , in a comment to Radio Liberty , the Secretary of the NSDC, Oleksiy Danilov, noted that Ukraine "cannot rule out anything", therefore it is actively preparing for any scenarios.

On October 11, Ukrainian intelligence reported that Russia was transferring Shahed-136 Iranian kamikaze drones to Belarus, and was exporting ammunition and equipment from it.

https://www.radiosvoboda.org/a/news-ukrayina-viyna-bilorus/32083794.html

[Dargo]

Belgorod power plant hit Russian missiles launched at targets in Kharkiv, east Ukraine, reportedly malfunctioned and fell on the grounds of a power station, causing a fire karma is a biaach.

[Dargo]

Based on this chart, Russia is quickly losing its market share of EU natural gas imports.

https://i.postimg.cc/hvC6XPy6/Ff-BJAJOXg-AEh-v9.jpg

Then you understand yesterday's meeting between Putin and Erdoğan

Putin suggests turning Turkey into gas hub for Europe Russian President says the proposed gas hub in Turkey for Europe could help regulate “exorbitant" prices. Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday doubled down on his proposal to turn Turkey into a gas hub for Europe after deliveries to Germany through the Baltic Sea's Nord Stream pipeline were halted. Putin floated the idea of exporting more gas through the Turk Stream gas pipeline running beneath the Black Sea to Turkey as he met with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on the sidelines of a regional summit in Kazakhstan.

It’s the second unlikely energy proposal that Putin has pitched in as many days, with European leaders calling Russia’s cuts in natural gas a political bid to divide them over their support for Ukraine. It’s created an energy crisis heading into winter that has fuelled inflation, forced some industries to cut production and sent home utility bills soaring. A day earlier, Germany rejected Putin’s proposal to step up gas flows to Europe via a link of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline under the Baltic Sea – a pipeline that has never been operational – despite Moscow cutting off the parallel Nord Stream 1 over what it claimed were technical problems.

The Russian leader first voiced the proposal on Wednesday, saying that Russia could increase the volume of its gas exports to Turkey through the Black Sea pipeline, turning the country into a hub for gas supplies to Europe. “We could ... make the main routes for the supply of our fuel, our natural gas to Europe through Turkey, creating in Turkey the largest gas hub for Europe - if, of course, our partners are interested in it,” Putin told a Moscow energy forum.

On Thursday, he said the hub could help regulate “exorbitant" prices. “We could easily regulate (prices) at a normal market level, without any political overtones,” Putin said. Erdogan did not comment publicly on the proposal but Putin’s spokesman, Dimitry Peskov said that Turkey has reacted positively to the idea. Officials from Erdogan’s office could not immediately be reached for comment.

Turkey’s state-run news agency however, quoted Turkish Energy Minister Fatih Donmez as saying on Wednesday that it was “too early to assess” the proposal. “Technically it is possible,” Anadolu Agency quoted Donmez as telling reporters at the same Moscow energy forum. “For such international projects, technical, commercial and legal evaluation and feasibility studies need to be conducted.” The Turk Stream, which has two lines with a total capacity of 31.5 billion cubic meters per year, was inaugurated in 2020.

NATO-member Turkey, which is depending on Russian gas and tourism, has criticized Moscow’s actions in Ukraine but has not joined U.S. and European sanctions against Russia. It has maintained its close ties with both Moscow and Kyiv and positioning itself as a mediator between the two. Ankara recently helped broker key deals that allowed Ukrainian to resume grain exports and led to a prisoner swap between Ukraine and Russia. Although Russia is still conveying gas to Europe via Ukraine, the amount it's has plummeted drastically with the two Baltic pipelines out of commission. https://www.middle-east-online.com/en/putin-suggests-turning-turkey-gas-hub-europe

No word on Ukraine, but he is backing down making concessions still not enough but see Putin tries to solve this and save himself let him sweat a couple of months Ukraine offenses, our support and sanctions are working

[Jimbuna]

Pentagon discusses possible financing of Starlink in Ukraine after Musk’s appeal, - AP

The US Department of Defense has received an appeal from SpaceX founder Elon Musk to finance the Starlink satellite communications network used in Ukraine.

An American official told the AP agency about this on the condition of anonymity, Censor.NET reports with reference to "European Truth".

He specified that the issue was discussed at meetings in the Pentagon and at the management level, but no final decision had been made yet.

Pentagon spokeswoman Sabrina Singh added to the AP that the agency "is in contact with SpaceX" regarding the situation with the Starlink system in Ukraine, declining to provide further details. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373836

[Jimbuna]

Strategic initiative is in our hands, so main thing is not to stop, - Zaluzhny

The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny had a telephone conversation with the Supreme Commander of the Joint NATO Forces in Europe and the Commander of the US Armed Forces in Europe, General Christopher Cavoli.

As Censor.NET informs about this with a link to the Facebook page of the Chief of the Armed Forces.

"They discussed the operational situation and plans for further actions of the Defense Forces of Ukraine, as well as existing and potential threats from the terrorist state of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus.

The strategic initiative is in our hands, so the main thing is not to stop," said Zaluzhny's post.

It is noted that the priorities of the Armed Forces remain the support of dialogue and a high level of military cooperation with partner countries, as well as the acquisition of interoperability with their armed forces. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373832

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0zieqUMeJU

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsirm619Kck

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEvD42inWdc

[Skybird]

After Ukrainian diplomat Andrij Melnyk - former amabassador to Germany - reacted to Elon Musk's peace plan regarding the war in Ukraine with a "**** off" on Twitter, Musk's decision to at least no longer donate his Starlink system Internet to Ukraine can probably be understood as a direct reaction.

In response to a tweet addressing the chronological order of Melnyk's harsh words and Musk's decision, the billionaire entrepreneur replied, "We're just following his orders."

[Rockstar]

Two FSB and Wagner PMC officers ask for asylum in France and testify, reports Gulagu.net

https://www.gulagu.net/

https://theins.ru/en/news/256042


A Wagner PMC employee and an FSB officer have requested political asylum in France, Vladimir Osechkin, head of the Gulagu.net media project, told The Insider. According to Osechkin, the two are now giving testimonies to help the international investigation into Russia's war crimes. Their testimony details the corruption schemes in Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB), as well as the history of the establishment of the Wagner Private Military Company as a «branch» of the GRU (Russia’s military intelligence service – Translator’s note), said Osechkin. According to him, several members of Russia’s special services have already been able to leave Russia in recent months and seek asylum abroad. They are also testifying.

[Jimbuna]

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said there is no need for more massive strikes on Ukraine, days after the heaviest bombardment of the country since the war began.

He said most designated targets of the strikes had been hit, adding that it was not his aim to destroy Ukraine.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63255617

[Jimbuna]

Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war - about 64,700 people, 268 planes, 242 helicopters, 2524 tanks, 1582 artillery systems, 5179 armored vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

The Russian occupiers, who invaded the territory of Ukraine, continue to suffer losses. As of the morning of October 15, the loss of enemy personnel are approximately 64,700.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff.

As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24/02 to 15/10 are approximately:

personnel - about 64,700 (+400) people were eliminated,
tanks - 2524 (+3) units,
armored combat vehicles - 5179 (+7) units,
artillery systems - 1582 (+16) units,
MLRS - 365 (+3) units,
air defense equipment - 186 (+0) units,
aircraft - 268 (+0) units,
helicopters - 242 (+2) units,
UAVs of operational-tactical level - 1210 (+11),
cruise missiles - 316 (+0),
ships/boats - 16 (+0) units,
automotive equipment and tank trucks - 3951 (+7) units,
special equipment - 142 (+0). Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373895

[Skybird]

Starlink, Musk, Ukraine:



https://www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/pentagon-soll-sich-an-finanzierung-beteiligen-musk-droht-offenbar-mit-einstellung-des-starlink-dienstes-in-ukraine-8751760.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[Dargo]

Starlink, Musk, Ukraine:



https://www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/pentagon-soll-sich-an-finanzierung-beteiligen-musk-droht-offenbar-mit-einstellung-des-starlink-dienstes-in-ukraine-8751760.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wappHe is an idiot Starlink in Ukraine will be paid by others and probable others will copycat this system idiot has again caused problems for his company's shareholder will be pleased with this elevated idiot.

[Dargo]

This clearly show the impotency of the Russian army on all fronts :damn:

Russia is giving soldiers Viagra to rape Ukrainians: UN official
A UN official claimed Russia is using rape as its “military strategy” in Ukraine — providing soldiers with drugs to sexually assault civilians.

“When you hear women testify about Russian soldiers equipped with Viagra, it’s clearly a military strategy,” Pramila Patten, UN special representative on sexual violence in conflict, told the AFP.

Patten added that the UN has verified “more than a hundred cases” of rape or sexual assault since the invasion began in February. Victims have largely included girls and women, but boys and men have been raped, too.

In September, the head of the organization’s Independent International Commission of Inquiry into Ukraine wrote that Russian forces were committing war crimes against civilians, including rape, torture and unlawful confinement. The commission head noted that victims of sexual and gender-based violence ranged from four to 82, and in some cases, family members have been forced to watch the acts. “Reported cases are only the tip of the iceberg,” Patten told the AFP, but added that it is difficult to maintain accurate statistics during an active violent conflict. “The numbers will never reflect reality, because sexual violence is a silent crime.”

https://nypost.com/2022/10/15/russia-is-giving-soldiers-viagra-to-rape-ukrainians-un-official/

[Skybird]

He is an idiot Starlink in Ukraine will be paid by others and probable others will copycat this system idiot has again caused problems for his company's shareholder will be pleased with this elevated idiot.
If it is so easy, why did it need Musk to step forward with his offer back then? And what other company can produce and launch such satellites by the dozens in short time?

None.

Lets face it, Ukraine owes to the man. Heavily. And needs him still.

BTW, it was a Space X capsule that brought back astronauts from the ISS today. Not NASA or ESA.


Thge article says, btw, that he had asked the Pentagon for payment of the mission already before the angry exhnchages started on twitter. His snappy return iposted earlier thus was probably just a comment due to the opportunity to make an ironic scoring point.


No, I still dont trust him blindly. I only try to see it from every angle available.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkpb6yJ_jlg

[Skybird]

Twitter:


The hell with it … even though Starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we’ll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 15, 2022 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1581345747777179651?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-QLIEcdH60

[Jimbuna]

Russia can destroy USA and Europe with nuclear weapons in half hour, - Musk

American billionaire, founder of SpaceX Elon Musk continues to express his opinion on Russia’s war against Ukraine.

In one of his tweets on October 15, Musk said that Russia can destroy the USA and Europe in less than half an hour if it uses nuclear weapons, Censor.NET reports.

"Russia is capable of completely destroying the USA and Europe with nuclear missiles in less than 30 minutes and vice versa. An amazing number of people do not know this. Of course, it would be crazy to use them, but it is crazy to find yourself in such a situation," Musk is convinced.

It will be recalled that earlier Elon Musk offered Ukraine to give up Crimea, because it "was Russian before Khrushchev's mistake", to hold a referendum on the territories occupied by Russian troops, and to remain a neutral state.

Ukrainian officials responded rather harshly to the billionaire. In response, Musk clarified that he supports Ukraine, but is convinced that the escalation of the war will cause great damage to Ukraine and, possibly, the world.

Subsequently, Musk's company SpaceX warned the Pentagon that it could stop funding the provision of Starlink satellite communications in Ukraine if the department refused to pay tens of millions of dollars a month. The Office of the President of Ukraine noted that Ukraine will find a solution so that satellite communication will continue to work. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373952

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine and 7 other countries joined eighth package of EU sanctions against Russia

Eight countries, including Ukraine, joined the EU Council’s decision to introduce the eighth package of sanctions against Russia, adopted at the beginning of October.

This was reported in the Council of the EU, Censor.NET informs.

"The candidate countries (to the EU. - Ed.) North Macedonia, Montenegro, Albania and Ukraine, the potential candidate country Bosnia and Herzegovina, and the countries of the European Free Trade Association Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway, members of the European Economic Area, join this decision Council of the EU," the press release states.

These countries will now ensure that their national policies comply with this decision of the EU Council of 6 October.

"The European Union takes this commitment into account and welcomes it," the EU Council added.

We will remind you that on October 6, the Council of the EU reached an agreement on the eighth package of sanctions against Russia. This package includes restrictions on oil prices, new bans on the import and export of steel, wood, machinery, aviation, plastics, chemicals in the amount of 7 billion euros, as well as sanctions against new individuals and legal entities and companies involved in the war with Ukraine. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373954

[Jimbuna]

Situation with Crimean bridge will provide Ukraine with victory in south, - Hodges

According to him, it was an important blow, whoever did it and however it was executed.

A potentially great victory for Ukraine in the south of the country will become possible in a few months thanks to the situation with the Crimean bridge. This was stated by the former commander of the US Ground Forces on the European continent, Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, reports Censor.NET with reference to UNIAN.

According to him, it was an important blow, whoever did it and however it was executed.

"I think the Ukrainian General Staff continues to do a good job without revealing everything they do, because it makes no sense to publicize Ukraine's capabilities. Therefore, the generals and the government are doing the right thing by not talking about it. Regardless of all this, we see how vulnerable the Russian zone. Because when this bridge is damaged again, or the Russians are unable to adequately repair it, and when the Ukrainian troops return Mariupol, the enemy will no longer have a land corridor to their territory, and Russian forces in Kherson and Crimea may find themselves in a trap. A potentially great victory for Ukraine in that region will become possible in a few months thanks to the situation with the Crimean bridge," Hodges explained.

He added that after the liberation of Crimea, the enemy will no longer have the opportunity to use the peninsula as a launching pad.

"I think most of the drones we've seen over the last few days have been launched from airfields in Crimea. So the sooner Ukrainian forces can push the Russians out of Crimea, the better. The enemy will no longer have the opportunity to use the peninsula as a launch pad." - said the general. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3373984

[Jimbuna]

Russian conscripts forced to pay £570 for their own body armour

Many Russian conscripts are being forced to pay approximately £570 for their own body armour, according to the latest British intelligence.

The UK Ministry of Defence said on Saturday that prices for equipment are soaring on Russian resale sites, with the price for a vest tripling since April.

They added that equipment provided by Russia for its troops is “almost certainly lower than the already poor provision of previously deployed troops”.

The MOD said "endemic corruption and poor logistics” continue to be a cause of Russia’s “poor performance” in Ukraine.

[Dargo]

Twitter:


The hell with it … even though Starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we’ll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 15, 2022 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1581345747777179651?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)The United States government is paying SpaceX to send some Starlink internet terminals to Ukraine despite the company saying that it did not think the government had paid any money to it. The US Agency for International Development (USAID) paid SpaceX for 1,333 Starlink terminals to send to Ukraine, according to a new report in the Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims/ , At a price of $1,500 per terminal, the government agency spent around $2 million for the hardware. SpaceX also sent an additional 3,667 terminals and delivered service to them.

But USAID also paid around $800,000 in transportation costs to deliver these terminals to Ukraine. In total, U.S. taxpayers paid SpaceX more than $3 million.

Musk did deliver, although it's unclear just how much Starlink has actually helped. But we only now know that he did so with lots of help from the U.S. government. And a major assist from the U.S. taxpayer.

[ET2SN]

Russia can destroy USA and Europe with nuclear weapons in half hour, - Musk



Gee, no ####? Maybe we should build some of our own. :up:

[Skybird]

It will be recalled that earlier Elon Musk offered Ukraine to give up Crimea, because it "was Russian before Khrushchev's mistake",
Can we Germans have back Danzig? "It was German before Hitler's mistake". And Alaska belongs to the Russians, btw. It was Russian before the Tzar's mistake of selling it too cheap.

[Dargo]

If it is so easy, why did it need Musk to step forward with his offer back then? And what other company can produce and launch such satellites by the dozens in short time?

None.

Lets face it, Ukraine owes to the man. Heavily. And needs him still.

BTW, it was a Space X capsule that brought back astronauts from the ISS today. Not NASA or ESA.


Thge article says, btw, that he had asked the Pentagon for payment of the mission already before the angry exhnchages started on twitter. His snappy return iposted earlier thus was probably just a comment due to the opportunity to make an ironic scoring point.


No, I still dont trust him blindly. I only try to see it from every angle available.A billionaire worth $219 billion oppose “losing” 500 million to help a right cause. Mykhailo Dianov donates all ₴23 million, crowdfunded for his rehabilitation, to other servicemen in need of medical treatment. Let’s talk about visions and values.
https://i.postimg.cc/28PWFWXG/Ff-Bx-NAj-WYAAb-Ac0.jpg

[Commander Wallace]

Gee, no ####? Maybe we should build some of our own. :up:

Love it. :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:
For a smart guy, Elon can be pretty stupid and says dumb things. I guess Elon doesn't understand how many " boomers " ( ballistic missile submarines ) the U.S has at sea at any one time as part of the U.S nuclear Triad. I'm sure that during times of tension, the U.S has more Boomers at sea as well.

I'm sure Elon doesn't understand what a mirv is. ( multiple independently targeted re-entry vehicles ) Multiply the number of missiles the subs carry by the number of mirvs per missile. That's how many cities in Russia will be wiped off the face of the earth. That says nothing of the nuclear weapons France and England has. Complicated, huh ? :03: The fallout there would continue to kill long after the nuclear exchange, same as in the U.S.

The U.S has some of the very best trained submariners anywhere in the world. Add England to that mix as well. To my knowledge, the U.S has never had a reactor accident at sea. How many has Russia had ? Admiral Rickover might have been a tyrant but his philosophy of incrementalism in the nuclear propulsion field was the right way to go.

I know the little fat man in North Korea doesn't get it that his country could be wiped out by a boomer not even using it's full compliment of missiles.

I'm not sure where Elon went to school but he should go and get his money back. Elon should just stick to Paypal and Tesla and things he understands.

[Skybird]

A billionaire worth $219 billion oppose “losing” 500 million to help a right cause. Mykhailo Dianov donates all ₴23 million, crowdfunded for his rehabilitation, to other servicemen in need of medical treatment. Let’s talk about visions and values.

Just because he is rich does not mean you have claim for him or that he owes service to you. You have mno claim there. ;)

BTW, Musk is an Asperger. He indeed may see things differently a bit, has problems to perceive some things like you and I would see them, and see other things smarter than you and me can. Asperger people are more focussed, linear, at the cost of not handling well intense stimuli influx and wide open shutters in their "lenses". Its not always clear to me when he said strange things or made strange actions in the past where he does that intentionally and manipulatively, or is victim of his different signal processing routines and perception schemes. Certain is one thing only: the perception filters for intense Asperger people and less or no asperger people, are different.

And Asperger or not, the man has drive. His success proves his way - well, successful.

None of this give anyone claim for/over him. He has no obligation at all to have stepped forward and help Ukraine out half a year ago. None whatever. Any speculation about why he did it, is just this: speculation.

No, I still do not trust him blindly, due to what I said here, amongst others. Still, I try to see him with a broader viewing angle. Thus, I can be wrong with my scepticism about him.

[Dargo]

MOSCOW (AP) — Two men on Saturday fired at troops at a Russian military firing range near Ukraine, killing 11 and wounding 15 others, before getting killed, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

The ministry said in a statement that the shooting took place in the Belgorod region in southwestern Russia that borders Ukraine. It said that the two men from an unnamed ex-Soviet nation fired on soldiers during target practice and were killed by return fire.

The ministry called the incident a terrorist attack.

The shooting comes amid a hasty mobilization ordered by President Vladimir Putin to beef up Russian forces in Ukraine — a move that triggered protests and caused hundreds of thousands to flee Russia.

Putin said on Friday that over 220,000 reservists already had been called up as part of an effort to recruit 300,000.

Even though the Russian leader declared that only people who had recently served in the military will be subject to the call-up, activists and rights groups reported military conscription offices rounding up people without any army experience — some of whom were also unfit for service for medical reasons.

Some of the freshly called-up reservists posted videos of them being forced to sleep on the floor or even outside and given rusty weapons before being sent to the front lines.

Authorities have acknowledged that the mobilization was often poorly organized and promised to improve the situation.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-military-range-shooting-volunteer-soldiers-attack-8dbb8c55dbdd4f10f1042ab7f045dff0?taid=634b0d950c97 a30001d7c968

[Aktungbby]

The ministry called the incident a terrorist attack.:timeout: :hmmm: :haha: :har: :k_rofl:...a terrorist act by terrorists in an officially declared terrorist state....:woot: compared to what standard I wonder?:hmmm:

[mapuc]

The first word which came up was-False flag

Markus

[Gorpet]

I have not stated anythign there, I just quoted the text form the german original source, via DeepL translator.



What is true about the US maybe being hesitent to go into suicide mode over Europe, is also true for France and Britain. Their nuclear weapons are not "Europe's weapons", they are exclusively France's and Britain's weapons - and that is the reason why Germany and Italy and Poland also should have their own nukes, because their density in military and US bases are likely to make them primary Russian targets in case of a war.



"Europe" has no nuclear weapons - France and Britain have. That is a very very big difference. France already made clear that they will never put their nukes under NATO or European command - a foolish daydream of the Germans they voiced last year or the year before. And I assume London in principle ticks the same way, they just sugarcoat it more nicely in words.

No our current Fascist Democrat Government here in the United States will go into suicide mode.There must be a new world order if it means the death of millions on the planet so be it. Look It's the world elite's who have been working in secret for this. It's now or never. 1st covid now war, the bible... of the socialist is kill,kill,kill until there is no one left to kill.Then the families of those who ordered the killings can come out and look at the blue sky in safety.

[Gorpet]

Some innocent civilians in Ukraine will lose their life now..Putin will revenge this by some massive attacks on civilian targets in Ukraine.

I heard that 3 people lost their life in the bridge explosion.

Markus

Yes the great Ukraine soldiers set up mortar squads in playgrounds in apartment complex. And snipers on top of apartment complex.Ok the Ukraine soldiers can not do this anymore.Ok Do you Agree? Are there any rules of Chivalry left? Or is it Dog eat Dog and citizens be damned as it has always been when Government leaders don't have their family on the front line.What kind of leaders are they? Brother in laws especially, Yes, they should be the leading the charge forward towards the Enemy. Defending not only Democracy but their wife's Honor. Until death do they part.Right ? Quit running to Poland looking for the NATO girls.The NATO men will kill you just the same. Go back and be a Ukraine.

[Aktungbby]

No our current Fascist Democrat Government here in the United States will go into suicide mode.There must be a new world order if it means the death of millions on the planet so be it. Look It's the world elite's who have been working in secret for this. It's now or never. 1st covid now war, the bible... of the socialist is kill,kill,kill until there is no one left to kill.Then the families of those who ordered the killings can come out and look at the blue sky in safety.

Yes the great Ukraine soldiers set up mortar squads in playgrounds in apartment complex. And snipers on top of apartment complex.Ok the Ukraine soldiers can not do this anymore.Ok Do you Agree? Are there any rules of Chivalry left? Or is it Dog eat Dog and citizens be damned as it has always been when Government leaders don't have their family on the front line.What kind of leaders are they? Brother in laws especially, Yes, they should be the leading the charge forward towards the Enemy. Defending not only Democracy but their wife's Honor. Until death do they part.Right ? Quit running to Poland looking for the NATO girls.The NATO men will kill you just the same. Go back and be a Ukraine. ...By the Waters of Babbleon R We?:O:

[Gorpet]

We don't have brother in laws in America any more. No family here it's a tribe. Males are sperm donors for women to get on the Social programs.And we the males hunt at night and sleep by day.Only the fools that are weak and believe their ideas of a utopian future..... outside of the power base of Washington we rule. Long Live the Tribes. It is after all what the one world order will accept if they survive.

[Gorpet]

Well listened to Babylon, But i remember Don McClain for this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX_TFkut1PM

Where did those day's go? The politician's stole it away

[Gorpet]

Is it true? England has emptied it's Armories out for Ukraine? And their factories can not replace what they have given away? And right now the whole UK is dependent on the Democrat Party of the USA, Who by the by the way is NATO. If you don't bend in the wind.There will be Consequences,Nobody F####s with a Biden.Except for one man a Saudi Prince.Who could have any politician or their family members in Washington leave the USA in luggage bags.To be dumped in the Ocean on a transatlantic flight. That's power.

[Reece]

^ Russia needs to read these comments!! :dead:

[Gorpet]

^ Russia needs to read these comments!! :dead:

Well, the truth is what it is.Transparency is right in front of our face.

[Reece]

Once upon a time I respected Putin but now in his old age (senility) he's just an evil old man looking to make a name for himself. I really am surprised that no one has bumped him off yet!! :doh: He's just a maggot that needs to be squashed!! :x

[Gorpet]

Once upon a time I respected Putin but now in his old age (senility) he's just an evil old man looking to make a name for himself. I really am surprised that no one has bumped him off yet!! :doh: He's just a maggot that needs to be squashed!! :x

Well, I look at Putin and his country with a different set of eyes. And my eyes read the pages of history books. And I don't give a crap who was the last president. I'm looking at the current mouthpiece of a party that could change life as we know it on this earth. And i think every single politician if they want to hold office. Should build a Simcity televised and at the end of 40 hrs that is a regular work week for the everyday ant, submit it to the people.If you want to serve you have to earn it.And you must share with the the people your families financial history.Yes this must also be transparent.AFTER ALL YOU WANT TO BE A PUBLIC SERVANT DON'T YOU.

[Skybird]

The Ukrainian advance on Cherson has come to such a slowdown that observers now more and more often speak of that the offensive to retake the city has failed. The Russians seem to be able to dug in and solidify their lines.



Or are they just being pinned down to prepare them for a smashing blow with the big hammer? I see no indications for this, but the Ukrainians have fooled everybody already once.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulgy4qTFexE

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC102O6IgD4

[Jimbuna]

Prolonged power outages at Zaporizhzhia NPP may lead to second Fukushima, - Head of Energoatom, Kotin

According to the head of "Energoatom" Petr Kotin, there is a high danger of a nuclear accident at the Zaporizhzhya NPP, and the situation is only getting worse every week. He believes that prolonged power outages at the station could lead to a second Fukushima.

He stated this in an interview with the German TV channel ZDF, Censor.NET informs with reference to DW.

"The occupiers, among other things, damaged the administrative building, the training center, and one of the NPP units, they are storing equipment and trucks, which creates a high risk of fire. No one knows what is stored in these trucks," Kotin said.

According to him, employees of the Zaporizhzhia NPP are under great pressure. "Now they are trying to force the staff to sign labor contracts with Russia. The staff have a choice - either sign these contracts or be beaten and tortured," he said, adding that about a hundred people were detained and no one knows what happened to them. "People are forbidden to leave the boundaries of the NPP," explained Kotin.

In his opinion, the highest threat of a nuclear accident remains at the Zaporizhzhia NPP. He noted that such an accident almost happened three times already. Kotin explained this by the fact that the ZNPP depends on the power supply. During the shutdown of the cooling system, the melting of the reactor fuel rods begins. Kotin compared it to the nuclear disaster at the Japanese nuclear power plant "Fukushima", where the power supply system was destroyed by a tsunami, and within three hours the melting of the rods began.

As a reminder, all six reactors of the Zaporizhzhia NPP are currently shut down. In recent days, factory generators have already been started twice due to the termination of the external and reserve power supply of the station. On October 14, the IAEA reported that the Zaporizhzhia NPP was again connected to backup power. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374095

[Jimbuna]

Defense industry of Russian Federation cannot produce modern missiles at rate at which they are consumed - British intelligence

The Russian defense industry is probably incapable of producing modern ammunition at the rate at which it is being consumed.

This is stated in the daily report of British intelligence, Censor.NET reports.

The report reports that on October 10, Russia fired more than 80 cruise missiles over Ukraine.

Ukraine's Defense Ministry said more than half were shot down, but dozens hit Kyiv and other populated areas, killing civilians and damaging civilian infrastructure.

"These strikes are a further degradation of Russia's long-range missile stockpile, which will likely limit their ability to hit the desired number of targets in the future," the statement said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374043

[Jimbuna]

Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war - about 65,000 people, 268 planes, 242 helicopters, 2,529 tanks, 1,589 artillery systems, 5,193 armored vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

The Russian occupiers, who invaded the territory of Ukraine, continue to suffer losses. As of the morning of October 16, the loss of enemy personnel are approximately 65,000.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

It is noted that the total combat losses of the enemy from 24/02 to 16/10 are approximately:

personnel - about 65,000 (+300) people were liquidated,
tanks ‒ 2529 (+5) units,
armored fighting vehicles ‒ 5193 (+14) units,
artillery systems - 1589 (+7) units,
MLRS – 365 (+0) units,
air defense equipment ‒ 186 (+0) units,
aircraft - 268 (+0) units,
helicopters – 242 (+0) units,
UAVs of the operational-tactical level - 1224 (+14),
cruise missiles ‒ 316 (+0),
ships/boats ‒ 16 (+0) units,
automotive equipment and tank trucks – 3959 (+8) units,
special equipment ‒ 143 (+1). Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374048

[Jimbuna]

Putin’s regime is even more isolated and closed than Soviet regime - Obama

Former US President Barack Obama has said that communication between the White House and the administration of Russian President Vladimir Putin is weaker than it was between US and Soviet leaders during the Cold War.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Ukrinform.

In an interview on the Pod Save America podcast, Obama said that even during some of the tense moments of the Cold War, there was a sense that both sides could pick up the phone and work through diplomatic channels, "sending clear signals."

"I think we are now dealing with a type of Russian regime that is actually even more centralized, even more, isolated and closed. Putin has consolidated the decision-making process to a degree that we have not seen even in Soviet times," he said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374079

[Jimbuna]

Prolonged power outages at Zaporizhzhia NPP may lead to second Fukushima, - Head of Energoatom, Kotin

According to the head of "Energoatom" Petr Kotin, there is a high danger of a nuclear accident at the Zaporizhzhya NPP, and the situation is only getting worse every week. He believes that prolonged power outages at the station could lead to a second Fukushima.

He stated this in an interview with the German TV channel ZDF, Censor.NET informs with reference to DW.

"The occupiers, among other things, damaged the administrative building, the training center, and one of the NPP units, they are storing equipment and trucks, which creates a high risk of fire. No one knows what is stored in these trucks," Kotin said.

According to him, employees of the Zaporizhzhia NPP are under great pressure. "Now they are trying to force the staff to sign labor contracts with Russia. The staff have a choice - either sign these contracts or be beaten and tortured," he said, adding that about a hundred people were detained and no one knows what happened to them. "People are forbidden to leave the boundaries of the NPP," explained Kotin.

In his opinion, the highest threat of a nuclear accident remains at the Zaporizhzhia NPP. He noted that such an accident almost happened three times already. Kotin explained this by the fact that the ZNPP depends on the power supply. During the shutdown of the cooling system, the melting of the reactor fuel rods begins. Kotin compared it to the nuclear disaster at the Japanese nuclear power plant "Fukushima", where the power supply system was destroyed by a tsunami, and within three hours the melting of the rods began.

As a reminder, all six reactors of the Zaporizhzhia NPP are currently shut down. In recent days, factory generators have already been started twice due to the termination of the external and reserve power supply of the station. On October 14, the IAEA reported that the Zaporizhzhia NPP was again connected to backup power. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374095

[Skybird]

What is it now about Cherson?


It seems it depends on what source you ask. US American and Ukrainian sources seem to comment like that the Ukrainians are successfully forming a pince attack to encircle the Russians. European and more pro-Russian sources seem to tend towards commenting like that the offensive by the Ukrainians has somewhat stalled more or less and that Russian lines are holding.


From the outside its difficult if not impossible form an educated opinion on whom is more right.

[Rockstar]

What is it now about Cherson?…

From what I’ve read Ukraine recently ordered and asked friendly locals and map bloggers for a media blackout of the Kherson op area. Scuttlebutt is “something big” is happening.

Considering that just a few days ago the Russian puppet government in Kherson was publicly asking Russia to evacuate them. I’m thinking it may be a Ukrainian offensive.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJcIyOtF1as

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-26IlS5Omw

[Jimbuna]

Lots of shot Russian soldiers - photos of consequences of shooting, arranged by Tajiks at training ground in Belgorod region, appeared. PHOTOS

Footage of the aftermath of the shooting at the training ground in the Belgorod region has gone viral.

"Photos have appeared from the shooting range in Belgorod, where the shooting took place yesterday. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, 11 people were killed and 15 were injured. The SOTA source, who witnessed the shooting, reported 22 dead and 16 wounded," the message states. Source: https://censor.net/en/p3374126

[Jimbuna]

Time has come for Ukraine to receive military aid, - Minister of Israel Shai

Israel’s Minister of Diaspora Affairs, Nachman Shai, advocated his country’s provision of military aid to Ukraine.

"This morning it became known that Iran is transferring ballistic missiles to Russia. There is no longer any doubt as to what position Israel should take in this bloody conflict. It is time for Ukraine to receive military assistance, as provided by the United States and NATO countries," Shai said, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrainian Pravda.

On October 16, The Washington Post, citing US and allied security officials, reported that Iran is increasing its commitment to supply Russia with weapons for the war against Ukraine and is ready to hand over not only drones, but also surface-to-surface missiles.

On September 24, President Volodymyr Zelensky stated that he was shocked by the lack of aid to Ukraine from Israel since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Russia. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374132

[Jimbuna]

U.S. is trying to convince Russia not to consider any nuclear weapons options, - Biden’s advisor Sullivan

The United States of America will respond equally to Russia’s use of any form of nuclear weapons in a war with Ukraine.

National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan told CNN on October 17, reports Censor.NЕТ.

A CNN correspondent asked whether the U.S. would treat Russia's "tactical" use of nuclear weapons - hitting a small target or a bombing in the Black Sea, for example - differently from a large-scale attack.

"The use of nuclear weapons on the battlefield in Ukraine is the use of nuclear weapons on the battlefield in Ukraine. The notion that there are any differences in use, I think, is dangerous," Sullivan said.

"From our perspective, we believe that the United States has an obligation, working with our NATO allies and partners and other responsible countries around the world, including countries like China and India, to send a very clear and strong message to Russia that they should not consider using nuclear weapons in this conflict," Sullivan continued. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374135

[Jimbuna]

Russia resorts to ethnic cleansing in Ukraine - ISW

Russia’s actions in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine, reported by Russian officials, fall under the definition of ethnic cleansing.

This was stated in daily summary by Washington Institute for the Study of War (ISW), reports Censor.NЕТ with reference to LigaBusinessInform.

Experts note that "Russia continues to carry out mass forced deportations of Ukrainians, which appear to be part of a campaign of deliberate ethnic cleansing in addition to clear violations of the Convention on the Prevention of the Crime of Genocide.

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin said on October 14 that "several thousand" children from the Kherson region "are already in other regions of Russia, resting in rest homes and children's camps.

ISW notes that earlier the Russian authorities openly admitted that they intend to give children from the occupied regions of Ukraine for adoption to Russian families. Experts point out that this could be qualified as a violation of the Convention on the Prevention of the Crime of Genocide.

The summary also states that the Russian authorities may pursue a policy of ethnic cleansing by deporting Ukrainians and settling Russian citizens in occupied cities.

ISW points out that ethnic cleansing itself is not a crime under international law, but is labeled by the UN commission on violations of humanitarian law in the former Yugoslavia as "the granting of ethnic homogeneity by force or intimidation to evict certain groups. and as "the deliberate policy of one ethnic or religious group to evict by violent and terrorist means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographical areas.

Experts note that these definitions are fully consistent with reports of the forced deportation and adoption of Ukrainian children, as well as with reports from Ukrainian sources that occupier projects to rebuild Mariupol involve the settlement of "tens of thousands of Russians". Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374136

[mapuc]

Beside sending weapons to Ukraine and impose weak sanction and embargo against Russia, what is the chance that our leaders will act in case Putin goes berserk and use tactical nukes in Ukraine ?

So far it has only been verbal threat from both side. So far there's no indication Russia is preparing their tactical nukes.

Why can't Putin be so much of a man and admit he has lost the war in Ukraine and withdraw his troop.

Markus

[mapuc]

Need confirmation on what Denys says in the end of this video
USA has granted Ukraine to use their weapons to attack Russian in Russia-He speaks about an attack and destruction of an S-300 outside Belgorod
Reason should be this: Russia attacks Ukrainian cities from Russian soil and Ukraine couldn't do anything-Until now it seems-Have to get a confirmation on this. If it's true or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vqUx5EYVj0

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGCR8oNfX3Y

[Jimbuna]

Moscow closing army draft offices

Moscow has met its targets for the "partial mobilisation" declared by President Vladimir Putin in September and Russian army draft offices in the city will be shut down later today, its mayor says.

Sergei Sobyanin also said mobilisation orders issued during the drive have become void. Should this apply to other Russian regions, it would mean that the tens of thousands of draft-dodgers who fled Russia in recent weeks could officially be in the clear.

Mobilisation had become an "ordeal for thousands of Moscow families", the mayor said, but added that thanks to the "responsibility, sense of duty and patriotism of Muscovites" the task of partial mobilisation was fulfilled.

Addressing recruits, Sobyanin said in a statement: "We are all worried and concerned about your fate, about the difficulties and dangers that lie ahead of you and that you are already facing. We hope and pray that you return safe and sound. Return with victory. Having defended the security and independence of our country."

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGiUtIRcJJw

[Jimbuna]

President Zelensky says Russia launched drone and missile attacks across Ukraine "all night and all morning" trying to "terrorise" civilians.

Three people have been killed and others injured, after Kyiv was hit by "kamikaze drones", authorities say.

And three people have died after a rocket attack in north-eastern Sumy region, the governor there says.

Frantic rescue work is going on in the centre of Kyiv after buildings were damaged, our correspondent Paul Adams reports.

The captial reverberated to the rattle of gunfire in the morning as anti-aircraft batteries tried to shoot down the drones.

At least 19 people were killed in a wave of Russian missile strikes on the capital a week ago.

Russia has increasingly been using Iranian-made drones to hit critical civilian infrastructure.

[Jimbuna]

Metropolitan patrolmen shoot down kamikaze drone with assault rifles. VIDEO

Oleksiy Bilo****sky, the first deputy chief of the Patrol Police Department, published a video in which the capital’s police officers are trying to shoot down one of the kamikaze drones that fell on Kyiv today.

As reported by Censor.NET, the video shows a group of five policemen shooting upwards with assault rifles.

"Shahid suffered a negative impact. Thank you for your service! And only forward!", Bilo****sky wrote in the comment. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3374288

[Jimbuna]

5 ships with 122.3 thousand tons of agricultural products left ports of Odesa for the countries of Africa, Asia and Europe, - Ministry of Infrastructure. PHOTOS

As part of the "Grain Initiative", 5 ships with 122.3 thousand tons of agricultural products left the ports of Odesa for the countries of Africa, Asia, and Europe.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Telegram of the Ministry of Infrastructure of Ukraine.

Among them is the NEW LIBERTY bulker, which will deliver 25,000 tons of wheat to Kenya. Bulk carrier CHOLA TREASURE will deliver 61.8 thousand tons of rape to Pakistan.

Since the beginning of the implementation of the "Grain Initiative", 350 ships with 7.8 million tons of agricultural products left the ports of Odesa for the countries of Asia, Europe, and Africa. Source: https://censor.net/en/p3374280

[Exocet25fr]

https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-90-percent-world-isnt-following-us-ukraine-opinion-1743061

[Skybird]

Der Spiegel writes:
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The well-known journalist Marina Ovsyannikova has left Russia accompanied by her daughter. Her lawyer Dmitry Sakhatov told the AFP news agency. "They are now in Europe. They are doing well."

Ovsyannikova became internationally known in mid-March when, during a live broadcast by her employer, a station loyal to the Kremlin, she held up a protest poster to the camera behind the news anchor against the military campaign in Ukraine.

"Stop the war, no war," she shouted several times at the time, holding a placard reading "No war" in English to the camera. Underneath, in Russian, it read, "Stop the war. Don't believe the propaganda. You are being lied to here". Then in English again "Russians against the war". For a few seconds the woman could be seen with her placard, then images of a hospital were superimposed.

Before fleeing abroad, Ovsyannikova left the apartment where she was under house arrest in Russia, according to her lawyer. The journalist will publicly comment on her escape at a later date, "but at the moment it is not safe," Zakhatov said.

Two weeks ago, Ovsyannikova had been placed on a wanted list in Russia, suggesting that the 44-year-old had gone into hiding. Ovsyannikova had been indicted in August for "spreading false information" about the Russian army. She faces up to ten years in prison. A Moscow court placed the journalist under house arrest, which was to last until the start of her trial. She was also not allowed to use any means of communication.

In the meantime, Ovsyannikova had been staying in Germany, where she worked for the newspaper "Welt." She then returned to Russia in July to fight for custody of her two minor children, which her ex-husband, who lives in Russia, wanted to take away from her. She continued her criticism of the Russian offensive in Ukraine.
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[Skybird]

https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-90-percent-world-isnt-following-us-ukraine-opinion-1743061

Our most promising solution to this dilemma is likely to be some sort of diplomatic compromise.



^ Really? I beg to differ. Der Spiegel writes:
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Hardly anyone "reads" Vladimir Putin and the Russians as knowledgeably as the Russian writer Viktor Yerofeyev, who fled to Germany. Germany's chancellor should meet with him. And be prepared for some unpleasant truths.


A street thug, used to winning, cannot be appeased. Late at night, when you're going for a walk around the block, he suddenly confronts you and, with cold eyes and a calm voice, demands your watch.

If you give it to him, he demands your wallet. If you refuse, he beats you up. Putin's war asks us how to deal with a street thug.

Olaf Scholz should ask Viktor Yerofeyev for a meeting or two to let him explain the Russians and Putin. Because Jerofejew is brilliant, both as an author and as a distanced contemporary witness. Distant here means "at a distance" in a double sense.

For Yerofeyev fled Russia in the spring in his BMW X 5 with his wife Katya and his two children Maja and Marianna. It was easy for the small family to leave Russia, but all the more difficult to get past the Finnish border officials and into Europe.

Read the bitterly humorous text that Jerofejew wrote about this in the "FAZ". Olaf Scholz lives in a world in which conflicts are moderated into compromises. The method for this is permanent negotiation.

But can this method, which might suffice when dealing with Robert Habeck and Christian Lindner and Friedrich Merz, be transferred to Vladimir Putin? To someone who doesn't want to negotiate at all, but only ever wants to win?

Whose only idea of existence is precisely this, in the logic of rulership, and has always existed only as a youth, then when he acquired his black belt, in the KGB, and finally as a despot - at first against his will, because Putin would rather have become the head of Gazprom than the head of the Russians. The Russians willingly follow him. Why, actually?

The Russian people have a different idea of happiness than the European peoples, and that's where the misunderstanding about Putin begins. Europeans, compared to Russians, live around a quiet middle - in mediocrity.

Russians, on the other hand, love the intemperate, they have found happiness by whistling at every norm. Yerofeyev: "When you drink vodka, you drink until you pass out. When you party, you party until the doctor comes. If you fight, you fight until someone drops dead.

The main thing is to put yourself in a state of consciousness in which life appears as a foolish hustle and bustle and at the same time as a victory over all other forms of existence. An inferiority complex and a complex of superiority over all other peoples produce a casus belli, the prelude to a bestial war without rules."

Can Putin be more accurately described? And the fact that the Russians are carrying him? Tens of thousands have fled from him, many liberals among them. Running away is one way to escape a street thug.

In this regard, we are just being lectured about obvious differences in mentality: In Iran, at any rate, the uprising against the mullahs is far larger and louder and more powerful than in Russia the resistance to Putin, if there is one.

Russia has, once again, as so often in its history, as Yerofeyev regretfully analyzes it, "freed itself" from universally valid humanistic values, replacing them with the "half-baked ideas of the superiority of our backyard over the whole world."

The backyard, that is Putin's homeland. His semi-strong ideology and that of "his" Russians: "We are better than all others." And why? "Because!"
Yerofeyev is old, educated and of privileged origin

It is the "wisdom" of the underprivileged, criminal suburbanite, in Russian: "gopnik." That's why the novel Yerofeyev completed about Vladimir Putin, which will be published around the turn of the year, is called "The Great Gopnik."

The Russia that many Germans admire, revere, romanticize, the land of Chekhov and Dostoevsky and Pasternak, however, only appealed to the West. But not in its own country, especially not in the Russian provinces. It is from there that Putin draws his support.


Russian "values," the successful writer analyzes, are tied to social standing - nobles, peasants, officers, working class - fragmented worlds. "That is why we are not a nation, but an exceedingly archaic people." Which gives the most space to its survival and thus upholds what helps the most in that:

Strength, cunning, lack of empathy, suspicion, distrust, cynicism. Shooting missiles at hospitals is as contrary to our values as it is to Putin's values. Russians will hardly be surprised by this - they know such nefariousness from Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, finally Ukraine since 2014.

Stations of Putin's victories; a single unconscionable trail of blood. And the dictator always got away with it, even among his own people. In one of his texts, Yerofeyev says that Russia is giving Ukraine hell "with an honest heart.

The war is Putin's element, corresponds to his existence since the backyard days in Leningrad, today's Petersburg. For German ears and brains, quite conditioned to pacifism, this is a disturbing message.

So will Putin use nuclear weapons? Yes, certainly, says Yerofeyev, if he has to fear humiliation, this is his last option. Victory or downfall - we Germans know this from Hitler. When the American atomic bomb detonated over Hiroshima on August 6, Germany had already capitulated.

Now that nuclear weapons are in the world, can there be any hope for the West? Yes, says Yerofeyev, and it has a name: "The only person Putin listens to is Comrade Xi," the writer said yesterday on Anne Will.

For people who, used to democracy, dream of a better world, this may be a difficult idea: The only hope against the second strongest dictator in the world would then be the strongest dictator in the world. Backyard thug logic.



--- Yerofeyev is 75 years old and educated and of privileged origin. His father was Stalin's personal interpreter, then embassy counselor, which is how Yerofeyev came to Paris for years. Those who grow up at a distance from their own countrymen may understand them better. ---
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[mapuc]

It's London and other British cities during -43-44 and 45. Where citizens had to fear V1 and V2 rockets from Nazi-Germany.

Today it's these kamikaze drones from Iran who are being used against civilians in Ukrainian cities.

One have hope that the weapon they are getting from Israel can shot them down before doing any major harm.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

If this is the calibre of the average Russian conscript then Ukrain can certainly have hope of saving herself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrMjSMuJpGQ

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7qqqM2bPZ4

[Jimbuna]

Time has come to apply sanctions against Iran for supply of weapons to Russian Federation, - Kuleba

Ukraine will demand international sanctions against Iran due to the Russian army’s use of Iranian-made kamikaze drones.

This was stated by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmytro Kuleba, Censor.NET informs.

"The patient broke down. We listened to different explanations, and different arguments for a very long time, but you cannot hide the truth, and this truth flew into the houses of the city of Kyiv today. Therefore, the time has come to apply sanctions against Iran for the supply of weapons to the Russian Federation," the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry emphasized.

According to Kuleba, these sanctions should be a signal for all countries to which Russia applies for military assistance.

In addition, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine announced the start of work on the ninth package of EU sanctions against Russia. According to him, among the new restrictions on the Russian Federation, one can expect the disconnection of its new banks from the SWIFT system.

"Today I told my European colleagues very simple words: that neither Ukrainians nor EU citizens can afford to be tired. Just as we cannot tire of fighting for our state, European security and prosperity, they also cannot tire of applying sanctions," - the minister emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374335

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLoVI-uXUO4

[mapuc]

Regarding the video in #7395 which was posted by Jim and was on how an nuclear war in Ukraine may look like.

He said Germany, South Korea and Japan does not have nukes but are under US umbrella protection.

I think to remove any doubt of fear if or when Putin decide to use nukes in Ukraine, maybe US should extend this umbrella protection to cover Ukraine too.

Sending a clear signal to Putin a nuclear attack on Ukraine will be seen as an attack on US.

The same should be with Biological and Chemical weapon.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Russia may launch nuclear strike to impose peace on Ukraine on its own terms - German intelligence

Russia may use tactical nuclear weapons to impose a "dictated peace" on Ukraine, but so far there are no signs of preparations for this scenario.

This was stated by the head of the Federal Intelligence Service of Germany, Bruno Kahl, at a hearing in the Bundestag, reports Censor.NET with reference to LIGA.

According to Kal, the Russian dictator Vladimir Putin's attack on Ukraine "did not come as a surprise" to his service.

He noted that Putin "reserves the right" to use nuclear weapons and emphasized that "it may come to the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine."

"Then they will seek to impose a dictated peace on Ukraine. On the Russian side, there are no signs of readiness to compromise in possible negotiations with Ukraine," Kal said.

The intelligence officer believes that defeat in the war against Ukraine from the Russian perspective could "pose an existential threat to Putin's rule", but his service has no indication that Russia plans to use strategic or tactical nuclear weapons. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374341

[Jimbuna]

New Ukrainian ambassador arrived in Germany and immediately asked for more weapons: "I’ll be frank - we need much more". ВIДЕО

On Monday, a new Ukrainian ambassador arrived in Germany - the former special representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for sanctions, Oleksiy Makeev, who replaced Andrii Melnyk in this position.

Makeev published the corresponding video appeal on Twitter, and Censor.NET reports.

"Thank you to the federal government for all the aid and weapons that have been sent to Ukraine so that we can defend ourselves in this barbaric war. I have to be frank. We need more. We need much more. And I will work to ensure that we, Europeans, Ukrainians and Germans, made our Europe safe," the ambassador said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374347

[Jimbuna]

Borrell on Russia’s use of Iranian drones: We are gathering evidence and ready to respond

Supporting Ukraine in its fight against brutal Russian aggression remains a key priority for the EU. Currently, member states are gathering evidence of Russia’s use of Iranian-made drones and will be ready to respond.

This was stated today in Luxembourg during the press conference following the results of the Council of Ministers of the EU on Foreign Affairs, the high representative of the EU, Josep Borrell, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform.

"I want to make it clear that supporting Ukraine in the face of this brutal (Russian) invasion remains our priority, the EU's priority. Putin will lose. He will lose politically and morally. Yet he continues to escalate, including indiscriminate attacks against civilian targets throughout Ukraine, which we saw again this morning," Borrell said.

He noted that the ministers spoke for the first time today with their Ukrainian colleague, who was in the bomb shelter at the time.

"We had the opportunity to exchange views with the Minister of (Foreign Affairs of Ukraine - ed.) Dmytro Kuleba, who communicated with the ministers from the bomb shelter. I think this is the first time when we communicated with the minister who spoke to us from the bomb shelter, at that time as Russia continued to strike Kyiv," said a high-ranking EU representative.

According to him, today the ministers also considered the issue of Russia's possible use of Iranian-made drones to attack Ukraine.

"During the communication with the ministers, Minister Kuleba strongly condemned the use of such weapons. We are closely monitoring the use of these drones. We are collecting evidence of such use, and will be ready to respond using the tools at our disposal," Borrell emphasized.

He recalled the results of the vote during the session of the UN General Assembly last week regarding the condemnation of Russia's illegal annexation of the territories of Ukraine.

"This vote confirmed the international isolation of Russia. But we cannot take it for granted. We need to stick to our course, based on a three-pronged strategy: to support Ukraine, to put pressure on Russia and to overcome the consequences of this war, which affect the whole world," Borrell emphasized.

He reminded that today the EU Council of Ministers decided to allocate another tranche of 500 million euros of financial aid from the intergovernmental European Peace Fund for the purchase of weapons and military equipment for Ukraine. This tranche brought the amount of military aid from the EU to the Armed Forces of Ukraine to 3.1 billion euros, which, according to Borrell, is only the "tip of the iceberg" given the level of support Ukraine receives from EU countries on a bilateral level.

Another practical decision of the EU Council of Ministers was the establishment of the EU Military Assistance Mission EUMAM Ukraine, which is only initially designed to train up to 15,000 Ukrainian soldiers, will be stationed in several EU countries outside of Ukraine, and has a two-year mandate. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374383

[Dargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OCcn0layKc

[Skybird]

It seems the driver thought the mines would only be triggered if the tracks roll directly over them and touch them...!?

[kpv1974]

I wonder why Russia is still fighting with "white gloves".

She could take as a basis the American doctrine of "peace enforcement" - first demolish all civilian infrastructure, so that a "ground operation" would not even be required - not even to bring its soldiers into enemy territory.

As it was for example in the former Yugoslavia in Europe, or in Iraq.

When the Americans razed to the ground all the cities of these countries

Russians are too scrupulous???
Maybe they are just fools that they do not follow the American doctrines of warfare?

[Dargo]

I wonder why Russia is still fighting with "white gloves".

She could take as a basis the American doctrine of "peace enforcement" - first demolish all civilian infrastructure, so that a "ground operation" would not even be required - not even to bring its soldiers into enemy territory.

As it was for example in the former Yugoslavia in Europe, or in Iraq.

When the Americans razed to the ground all the cities of these countries

Russians are too scrupulous???
Maybe they are just fools that they do not follow the American doctrines of warfare?https://i.postimg.cc/s2j9bK7r/orly.jpg

[kpv1974]

https://i.postimg.cc/s2j9bK7r/orly.jpg

I know - when there is nothing to object, then they start sending stupid picture memes.
This shows your level of maturity.

[August]

I know - when there is nothing to object, then they start sending stupid picture memes.
This shows your level of maturity.


Certainly no worse than the ignorant falsehoods that you just posted right?

[kpv1974]

Certainly no worse than the ignorant falsehoods that you just posted right?

Well well...

[kpv1974]

I know why you are so dumb.
Because rockets don't reach you yet.

But I live in Russia (very close to the Ukrainian border), and I have already felt the missile strikes.

My God, so that Putin does not care about you. About your well being.

My friend, you do not agree with the Americans' assertion that bomb strikes "bring peace".

If you do not agree with this, then you are a typical brainless person.

[August]

Well well...




C'mon now you're not seriously trying to compare limited UN sponsored action with Russian mass murder and large scale ethnic cleansing?


As I recall the only mass murders that happened in Yugoslavia were committed by Russian ally Serbia. Just a chip off the old evil block I guess.

[Rockstar]

I wonder why Russia is still fighting with "white gloves".

She could take as a basis the American doctrine of "peace enforcement" - first demolish all civilian infrastructure, so that a "ground operation" would not even be required - not even to bring its soldiers into enemy territory.

As it was for example in the former Yugoslavia in Europe, or in Iraq.

When the Americans razed to the ground all the cities of these countries

Russians are too scrupulous???
Maybe they are just fools that they do not follow the American doctrines of warfare?

It’s occurred to me that Russia was never as militarily powerful or capable as we were lead to believe, it’s 4th rate at best. I’m pretty sure Putin was duped by his own intel into thinking he was going to be welcomed as a liberator. But instead Ukraine shot back, which is something Putin didn’t appear to be prepared for.

[mapuc]

I know why you are so dumb.
Because rockets don't reach you yet.

But I live in Russia (very close to the Ukrainian border), and I have already felt the missile strikes.

My God, so that Putin does not care about you. About your well being.

Have some question

Did the Ukrainian bomb you before you President Putin gave the order to invade Ukraine ?

Is Ukrainian forces attacking civilian targets in Russia near the border to Ukraine or are they targeting military and/or industriel targets ?

Is these kamikaze drone attacks we have seen in the lastest couple of days is that Ukrainian/West propaganda-Made by CGI ?

Markus

[Skybird]

I know why you are so dumb.
Because rockets don't reach you yet.


Funny, thats exactly what came to my mind when I read your surreal comments.

Go sit and write love letters to the great Russian Führer, but stop bother trying to amuse us here, nature has not gifted you with wits or fun. That you believe this Kremlin inhumane drivel and hate-dripping propaganda, is evidence for that. Take a bloodbath, kill some babies and their mums or shoot somebody's dog for fun. It might relax you.

[Commander Wallace]

Russians are too scrupulous???
Maybe they are just fools that they do not follow the American doctrines of warfare?

Russians are scrupulous ? Lets see, they run from a fight which makes them cowards in my book.

Russians attack peaceful civilian population centers which again makes them cowards and engaging in war crimes, genocide and terrorism.

Your military leaders couldn't lead a blind horse to water. The only thing Russia is capable of doing is attacking defenseless women and children while running from the Ukrainian soldiers.

Maybe you will get lucky and you will be in the path of the advancing Ukrainian military forces so you can show us how you can fight. More than likely, you will follow that great Russian tradition of running like the cowards and curs that Russians are.

Do you even realize what a joke and laughing stock you and your Russia are ?


Funny, thats exactly what came to my mind when I read your surreal comments.

Go sit and write love letters to the great Russian Führer, but stop bother trying to amuse us here, nature has not gifted you with wits or fun. That you believe this Kremlin inhumane drivel and hate-dripping propaganda, is evidence for that. Take a bloodbath, kill some babies and their mums or shoot somebody's dog for fun. It might relax you.


:agree::sign_yeah: Couldn't say it any better.

[kpv1974]

And what about the picture about Yugoslavia.
They were not bombed by the democratic forces of NATO?
I spoke exactly about this.
Is the USA the hegemon of the whole world?

Why could the United States rape Yugoslavia and why can't Putin rape Ukraine?
He also has nuclear weapons.

[August]

And what about the picture about Yugoslavia.
They were not bombed by the democratic forces of NATO?
I spoke exactly about this.
Is the USA the hegemon of the whole world?

Why could the United States rape Yugoslavia and why can't Putin rape Ukraine?
He also has nuclear weapons.


And how much Yugoslavian territory has the US annexed hmmm? Can you show me Yugoslavian scenes comparable to the Russians bloody ethnic cleaning in towns like Bucha? You can't because it's only the Russians who are engaged in stealing land from their neighbors.

[kpv1974]

And how much Yugoslavian territory has the US annexed hmmm? Can you show me Yugoslavian scenes comparable to the Russians bloody ethnic cleaning in towns like Bucha? You can't because it's only the Russians who are engaged in stealing land from their neighbors.

History is written by the winners.
So don't be fooled

[mapuc]

I have some additional question to this sentence

"I know why you are so dumb.
Because rockets don't reach you yet."

Do you have any ideas how the Civilians in Kyiv, Kharkiv, Bakhmut, Odesa or Lviv feel from knowing that sooner or later some rocket, missile, drone or something else may fall on their head and kill them

They have done you nothing and was not even a threat to your country.

Edit
Here is a wiki page about Nato bombing of Serbia/Yugoslavia in 1999
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_of_the_NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
End edit
Markus

[kpv1974]

[QUOTE=August;2833162]And how much Yugoslavian territory has the US annexed hmmm? Can you show me Yugoslavian scenes comparable to the Russians bloody ethnic cleaning in towns like Bucha? You can't because it's only the Russians who are engaged in stealing land from their neighbors.[/QUOTПереводчик

At the moment, it is identified as an absolute fraud on the Ukrainian side.

When there are no real victories at the front, there must be fake victories on the Internet.

No matter how much you root for Ukraine, it will lose

Ukraine is just a chessboard played by big players (Russia and NATO countries).

If this is still not clear to you, then you are complete morons.

media story.

[Buddahaid]

Reported.

[Commander Wallace]

History is written by the winners.
So don't be fooled


Well, we know in the Ukraine, it certainly won't be Russia that writes history then. :haha:



He also has nuclear weapons.


Apparently you have no idea that the U.S and other NATO countries also have a nuclear arsenal and also know how to use them. You really are delusional.

[mapuc]

NO one on this forum is what you kpv1974 accuse us to be.

We-Most of us-Trust more what comes from Ukraine than we trust what's coming from Russia-This has to do with following

1. It was Russia who assaulted an innocent country
2. It was Russia who started to bomb civilian targets.
3. It was Russia who are committing ethnic cleansing
4. It was Russia who in 2014 annexed Crimea and some other areas in South east Ukraine.

So there you have some reason to why we support Ukraine.

Markus

[kpv1974]

Funny, thats exactly what came to my mind when I read your surreal comments.

Go sit and write love letters to the great Russian Führer, but stop bother trying to amuse us here, nature has not gifted you with wits or fun. That you believe this Kremlin inhumane drivel and hate-dripping propaganda, is evidence for that. Take a bloodbath, kill some babies and their mums or shoot somebody's dog for fun. It might relax you.


You hypocritical bastards.
Your government is always hiding behind your hypocritical American false democracy, which you are trying to carry beyond the borders of your state.

And your government does not ask if this democracy of yours is needed by other countries. It just forces it on.

Why are the Americans climbing into all corners of the globe?
Don't you have enough oh territory that you took away from the Indians, the indigenous peoples of America?

[mapuc]

kpv1974 are you gathering points to be keelhauled ??

Because if you continue with this type of language Neal or some of the mods may just do so-Keelhaul you.

Markus

[Commander Wallace]

You hypocritical bastards.
Your government is always hiding behind your hypocritical American false democracy, which you are trying to carry beyond the borders of your state.

And your government does not ask if this democrae Ukraine did. cy of yours is needed by other countries. It just forces it on.


This from a country with a history of keeping it's people behind walls and barb wire fence and shooting them if they tried to escape the Soviet Bloc countries. In the case of the Ukraine, they don't want to be associated with Russia / USSR or have anything to do with your country. The U.S didn't make that decision, the Ukraine did. It's the same decision that Poland, Germany, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and other countries made. The free countries of the world understand that and support the Ukraine.


By the way, your language is as unwelcome as your disruptive presence.

Now, run along and let the grown ups talk. :yep:

[kpv1974]

kpv1974 are you gathering points to be keelhauled ??

Because if you continue with this type of language Neal or some of the mods may just do so-Keelhaul you.

Markus

you want to kill me - just because I'm Russian?

[Buddahaid]

The Gulag Archipelago

[Commander Wallace]

The Gulag Archipelago




Love it. :haha:

[Buddahaid]

you want to kill me - just because I'm Russian?

It's getting banned from the forum, not literal keelhauling. Stop calling people disrespectful names will help since that's against the rules on conduct.

[mapuc]

you want to kill me - just because I'm Russian?

I'm a pacifist I do NOT harm people or animals.

Neal have put up some clear rules and use of profanity is not allowed and you have broken this clearly.

It was because of this I asked if you are gathering points to be keelhauled here on this forum.

Calling member ugly things is absolutely not OK.

Markus

[kpv1974]

kpv1974 are you gathering points to be keelhauled ??

Because if you continue with this type of language Neal or some of the mods may just do so-Keelhaul you.

Markus

you want to kill me - just because I'm Russian?


Well, yes - you do not like what everyone knows, the Americans killed more than 11 million people in the course of their "peacekeeping" missions. Open your eyes already to this international lawlessness.

But everyone admits - the United States is the world hegemon, and he can kill as many people as he sees fit.

[mapuc]

you want to kill me - just because I'm Russian?


Well, yes - you do not like what everyone knows, the Americans killed more than 11 million people in the course of their "peacekeeping" missions. Open your eyes already to this international lawlessness.

But everyone admits - the United States is the world hegemon, and he can kill as many people as he sees fit.

I toke the freedom to copy what Buddahaid wrote in the last comment on page 496
For the possibility you didn't read it

"It's getting banned from the forum, not literal keelhauling. Stop calling people disrespectful names will help since that's against the rules on conduct."

We are one big family here, some of us have meet in real life. Even though we may disagree on things, we do NOT give each other disrespectful names

You are entitle to have your own opinion, while others here on this forum has the right to agree or disagree with what you write, you are however not entitle to give those who disagree with you disrespectful names.

Markus

[Skybird]

Marauding Russian gangs of murderers indiscriminately slaughter everything that moves. Refugee convoys are targeted with heavy artillery and rockets and missiles. Women and girls are systematically tortured in camps, raped in front of their families, in order to destroy the population psychologically forever and to make normal social relations impossible as a result of the trauma. Rape is used as a weapon of warfare, troops are given potency pills and assigned to rape and torture. Captured men are tortured, often castrated. Residential buildings and shelters bulging with shelter seekers are targeted for bombing. The great Führer in the Kremlin has denied Ukrainians and Ukraine the right to exist, bluntly and clearly in his choice of words and expression. Without being threatened, he has launched a war of aggression and even denies the victims of his attack the right to defend themselves. Over a million Ukrainians, many of them children, have been abducted and have practically disappeared in Russia. What is happening in Ukraine meets the written definition of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. The Russian "infantry" obviously can't take on the Ukrainians in direct combat, and takes revenge for their incompetence with even greater brutality and contempt for the civilian population. Palestinian terrorists hide behind females and kids and snipe at Israleis. Russian move civil population to absue them as humans heilds - or to mow them down because of frustration, or order to do so.

The Russians do not so much accept collateral damage, but strive for the mass murder of civilians in a targeted and deliberate manner; as a tool of terror, the slaughter of civilians is wanted, targeted and maximized. Massacring civilians is not a side effect, but all too often the intended goal of military action. Murder. Mass murder.

The Russian army is the last filth, scum. It is not simply determined, but simply brutal, barbaric, inhuman, criminal, incompetent. In these qualities it reflects the tradition of the last centuries of Russian history, and the brutalization of the military couples back to the Russian civil society and the brutality and addictive culture continued there and within-family goes as feedback back to the army structures. This and the criminals who occupy politics in order to enrich themselves unrestrainedly in the country form a vicious circle, and nothing but terror, violence and barbarism come out of it. Russia is a ****hole that no one in the world needs. If it were gone, no one would miss it, but many would breathe a sigh of relief. I knew Russians from my studies who left Russia during glasnost and perestroika and didn't have a good word to say about the country, they were just glad to be out.

Get lost, kpv1974. Your kind is not wanted here. Spill your fascist poison elsewhere. These days, there are only two kinds of Russians: those who oppose Putin, and those who support him. Your choice is for him, and that makes you guilty and speaks against you and disqualifies you for being a respectable civilised being. Get lost.

[kpv1974]

Marauding Russian gangs of murderers indiscriminately slaughter everything that moves. Refugee convoys are targeted with heavy artillery and rockets and missiles. Women and girls are systematically tortured in camps, raped in front of their families, in order to destroy the population psychologically forever and to make normal social relations impossible as a result of the trauma. Rape is used as a weapon of warfare, troops are given potency pills and assigned to rape and torture. Captured men are tortured, often castrated. Residential buildings and shelters bulging with shelter seekers are targeted for bombing. The great Führer in the Kremlin has denied Ukrainians and Ukraine the right to exist, bluntly and clearly in his choice of words and expression. Without being threatened, he has launched a war of aggression and even denies the victims of his attack the right to defend themselves. Over a million Ukrainians, many of them children, have been abducted and have practically disappeared in Russia. What is happening in Ukraine meets the written definition of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. The Russian "infantry" obviously can't take on the Ukrainians in direct combat, and takes revenge for their incompetence with even greater brutality and contempt for the civilian population. Palestinian terrorists hide behind females and kids and snipe at Israleis. Russian move civil population to absue them as humans heilds - or to mow them down because of frustration, or order to do so.

The Russians do not so much accept collateral damage, but strive for the mass murder of civilians in a targeted and deliberate manner; as a tool of terror, the slaughter of civilians is wanted, targeted and maximized. Massacring civilians is not a side effect, but all too often the intended goal of military action. Murder. Mass murder.

The Russian army is the last filth, scum. It is not simply determined, but simply brutal, barbaric, inhuman, criminal, incompetent. In these qualities it reflects the tradition of the last centuries of Russian history, and the brutalization of the military couples back to the Russian civil society and the brutality and addictive culture continued there and within-family goes as feedback back to the army structures. This and the criminals who occupy politics in order to enrich themselves unrestrainedly in the country form a vicious circle, and nothing but terror, violence and barbarism come out of it. Russia is a ****hole that no one in the world needs. If it were gone, no one would miss it, but many would breathe a sigh of relief. I knew Russians from my studies who left Russia during glasnost and perestroika and didn't have a good word to say about the country, they were just glad to be out.

Get lost, kpv1974. Your kind is not wanted here. Spill your fascist poison elsewhere. These days, there are only two kinds of Russians: those who oppose Putin, and those who support him. Your choice is for him, and that makes you guilty and speaks against you and disqualifies you for being a respectable civilised being. Get lost.

I do not like ?

So shut up if you can't resist.
Can you stop Putin? So stop. Start the engine on your sofa - and go.
Or do you only have glib comments on the Internet?

Forward to Ukraine - help her You can’t help her much from the sofa ...

Biden screwed up?
Do not smot Putin to crush

[kpv1974]

I do not like ?

So shut up if you can't resist.
Can you stop Putin? So stop. Start the engine on your sofa - and go.
Or do you only have glib comments on the Internet?

Forward to Ukraine - help her You can’t help her much from the sofa ...

Biden screwed up?
Do not smot Putin to crush

[August]

Or do you only have glib comments on the Internet?


And what have you done for Russian Imperial glory besides make comments on the internet?

[Buddahaid]

Fleet repair ship Kamchatka on the horizon, sir!

[Reece]

Fire one!! :salute:

[Commander Wallace]

Fire one!! :salute:


Aye aye. :yep:

[Buddahaid]

Release the Japanese torpaedo boat squadrons we've built up in two months manned by thousands of cloned Japanese sailors grown in biological 3D printers on Jersey Island in secret bunkers built by the proto-nazies that the Triffids landed, eh somehow, nevermind. (Thows another pair of binocculars overboard).

[Reece]

^ are you Russian?? :D

[Commander Wallace]

^ are you Russian?? :D

Nyet. :D

[les green01]

You hypocritical bastards.
Your government is always hiding behind your hypocritical American false democracy, which you are trying to carry beyond the borders of your state.

And your government does not ask if this democracy of yours is needed by other countries. It just forces it on.

Why are the Americans climbing into all corners of the globe?
Don't you have enough oh territory that you took away from the Indians, the indigenous peoples of America?

First of all i'm half Native American proud of it but first I'm American red white and blue apple pie all that you talk about our democracy i can do and go has i please and don't have to raise my hand and say may i or say conrad as long has i'm not interfering with someone else freedom i have the choice to break the laws if i desire too just don't get caught you talk about what Americans have done but never mention other countries what they have done

[Buddahaid]

You hypocritical bastards.
Your government is always hiding behind your hypocritical American false democracy, which you are trying to carry beyond the borders of your state.

And your government does not ask if this democracy of yours is needed by other countries. It just forces it on.

Why are the Americans climbing into all corners of the globe?
Don't you have enough oh territory that you took away from the Indians, the indigenous peoples of America?

You engage in whataboutism and judging historical events by modern standard in defending Putin's land grab. I want my lend lease money back.

[Skybird]

I want my lend lease money back.
Plus our billions and billions of development aid, technical aid, military (!) aid, economic aid since 1989. :03:

[Skybird]

Norway has arrested four Russians who photographed plenty of critical energy infrastructure. extensive photo material has been confiscated.


German secret servic ehas warned policy-.makers that russia has made a deicison to wage an udneclared war against the West and especially Germany, and that sabotage of and attacks against energy and critical infratsdrucre miust be expected.


Maybe we should start to pay out Russia the change in the currency it has choosen, and cybersabotage its own infrastrtuxcre: powerplants. Pipeline controls, etc etc. I believe in reciprocity, in good and bad times. And the Russian powergrids and supply grids are as open and vulnerable as ours - if not more.

[Jimbuna]

Quite an eventful evening was had by all I see.

So, where to begin.....

Whilst taking into account how current events in Ukraine can be so emotive on everybody regardless of which side they support, I must stress that anyone posting in this thread must give due recognition to the fact and try to remain calm.

There are points made that I personally agree with and there are other points I have a fundamental disagreement with.

If you disagree with something posted then you obviously have a right to reply/challenge. After all, that is what forum posting is about but if you are going to resort to swearing and name calling then you are clearly in breach of the forum 'FAQ & Rules (see link at the top of each page/board)

I'm now going to report this post I've made so that the forum owner is aware of what has happened and in so doing enable him to understand why I have resorted to taking any remedial action should that be necessary in the future.

I'll end by respectfully suggesting that it is easier to ignore someone rather than take the bait thereby fanning the flames.

I thank you all for your cooperation in advance.

[kpv1974]

You engage in whataboutism and judging historical events by modern standard in defending Putin's land grab. I want my lend lease money back.

What's wrong with Lend-Lease?
Russia in 2006 fully paid off these debt obligations.
So, you are not looking for "your money" there.
You should be more worried when Ukraine starts to repay debts under the current Lend-Lease.
Ask your government how much "your money" it has already sent to Ukraine, and will continue to send in the future.

I do not justify Putin.
but for some reason you always support double standards. When a small incident happened at the capitol, everyone immediately shouted that this was an attempted coup d'état.
When the legally elected president was actually swept away in Ukraine, then by your standards, this is no coup d'état.

And this was all encouraged by the Americans - in the rebellious square in Kyiv, weren't there high-ranking American civil servants?

In general, this is, of course, a brilliant plan - two Slavic peoples are methodically destroying each other, and the beneficiaries of all this madness are holed up overseas.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq84o_iDJdM

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVLNlpVPbJo

[Jimbuna]

Nord Stream blast 'blew away 50 metres of pipe'

At least 50 metres (164ft) of an underwater pipeline bringing Russian gas to Germany is thought to have been destroyed by a blast last month.

Video shot by a Norwegian robotics company, published by Swedish newspaper Expressen, appears to show the massive tear in the Nord Stream 1 pipe.

Danish police believe "powerful explosions" blew four holes in the pipe and its newer twin, Nord Stream 2.

It is still unknown who or what caused the blasts amid suspicions of sabotage.

Gas deliveries have been suspended since the 26 September explosions on the concrete-reinforced steel pipes crossing the Baltic Sea.

The Kremlin has accused Western investigators of seeking to blame Russia for the damage.

"Elementary logic" shows damaging the pipeline was not in the Russian interest, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday.

Western leaders have stopped short of directly accusing Russia but the EU has previously accused Russia of using its gas supplies as a weapon against the West over its support for Ukraine.

Working with Expressen, Blueye Robotics used a submersible drone to film the twisted and bent metal of the Nord Stream pipe 80m beneath the surface of the sea.

Parts of the pipeline are either missing or buried in the seabed, the company said.

"It is only an extreme force that can bend metal that thick in the way we are seeing," drone operator Trond Larsen told Expressen.

Danish police findings appear to confirm those of Swedish authorities who have also been investigating the leaks in the pipelines.

"The inspections have confirmed that there has been extensive damage to Nord Stream 1 and 2 in the Danish exclusive economic zone," said Danish police.

German, Danish, and Swedish authorities have all been investigating the incident but Swedish prosecutors reportedly rejected a joint investigation out of fears of sharing sensitive information related to national security.

Russia previously demanded to be involved in any investigations, saying the damage was in international waters, but Denmark and Sweden refused.

The Nord Stream 1 pipeline has not transported any gas since August when Russia closed it down, saying it needed maintenance.

It stretches 1,200km (745 miles) from the Russian coast near St Petersburg to north-eastern Germany.

Nord Stream 2 was still awaiting clearance for use when Russia invaded Ukraine in February.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63297085

[Onkel Neal]

In general, this is, of course, a brilliant plan - two Slavic peoples are methodically destroying each other, and the beneficiaries of all this madness are holed up overseas.

If Russia would calm down and stop attacking Ukraine, punt their dictator and try to get control to their govt and the corrupt system that is syphoning off their treasury I'm pretty sure the US would be your friend.

[kpv1974]

If Russia would calm down and stop attacking Ukraine, punt their dictator and try to get control to their govt and the corrupt system that is syphoning off their treasury I'm pretty sure the US would be your friend.

Maybe.
But in this case, the Americans only added fuel to the fire. Why provoke Putin? Invariably, where on the territory of the former USSR, American diplomacy showed interest, armed conflicts arose. Georgia, for example. Didn't the Americans oversee the revolution there?
Moreover, before the Ukrainian invasion, Putin demanded for himself some kind of security guarantees regarding the expansion of NATO. But they didn't talk to him about it.
He was simply provoked. Well, he fell into this Ukrainian trap. I do not see a peaceful end to this war. Ukraine cannot lose this war - because it simply will not. Well, Putin's loss will simply lead to his physical existence.
I don’t whitewash either side - everyone here turned out to be devilishly good ...

And in fact, the issue with Putin itself is unresolvable in Russia, since all the laws have been corrected to please him.
Moreover, he is a lifelong dictator.
There is currently no mechanism to legally remove him. And he himself will never give up power.
Only death will separate him from us.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC96cnmPfB4

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We8ANNRBZ38

[Commander Wallace]

Maybe.
But in this case, the Americans only added fuel to the fire. Why provoke Putin? Invariably, where on the territory of the former USSR, American diplomacy showed interest, armed conflicts arose. Georgia, for example. Didn't the Americans oversee the revolution there?
Moreover, before the Ukrainian invasion, Putin demanded for himself some kind of security guarantees regarding the expansion of NATO. But they didn't talk to him about it.
He was simply provoked. Well, he fell into this Ukrainian trap. I do not see a peaceful end to this war. Ukraine cannot lose this war - because it simply will not. Well, Putin's loss will simply lead to his physical existence.
I don’t whitewash either side - everyone here turned out to be devilishly good ...

And in fact, the issue with Putin itself is unresolvable in Russia, since all the laws have been corrected to please him.
Moreover, he is a lifelong dictator.
There is currently no mechanism to legally remove him. And he himself will never give up power.
Only death will separate him from us.


What of the security of the Ukraine, Poland, Germany..... The list goes on. You seem to forget the history of the USSR in subjugating it neighbors for decades. It has been only Russia that threatens the world with Nuclear war. You must know if that happens, Russia is signing it's own death warrant as the U.S and other countries will respond with their own Nuclear weapons. Chances are, both you and I and millions of others will die in the exchange of weapons and Nuclear fallout. Does that sound good to you ? Putrid's threats of Nuclear war are only an example of his military's incompetence and ineptitude.

Putrid has decried the loss of the greater " Soviet Union." In truth, because of the political system there, Russia has never been more than a large third world country and Autocracy. Putrid wants to reclaim those countries that formed the former" Warsaw Pact " forces. You must know this will never happen and those former countries will go after Russia with a vengeance if Putrid makes a move on them.

The United States has nothing to do with this. These countries decided they love liberty, freedom and the right to think for themselves. They have an inalienable right to do that. If you like living in Russia and being led around by the nose and having others do your thinking for you, that's your right as well. Good luck with that.

The Ukraine reserves the right to have and maintain it's freedom as well. Only a small man and dictator like Putrid would have an issue with that. One thing is certain. The countries that had been subjugated by Russia will never return to the fold. You and Russia will see war up close and personal if you decide to try to reclaim those countries. The Ukraine is an example of this.

If you don't like what is happening in Russia, show some courage and remove him or take him out. That's a problem and decision for the people of Russia. If you do like what Russia is doing, then live with the consequences.

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine war: Energy situation 'critical' after Russian attacks

Russian forces have again targeted Ukraine's energy facilities, leaving part of Kyiv and other cities with no power and water.

A presidential aide said the situation across Ukraine was now critical.

Prosecutors say two people were killed in an attack on the capital. Plumes of smoke were seen billowing from around a power station near the Dnipro river.

Power and water were cut in Zhytomyr, west of Kyiv, and two facilities were badly damaged in Dnipro.

"Everyone should be ready, first, to save electricity, and second, rolling power blackouts are also possible if strikes continue," said Kyrylo Tymoshenko, the deputy head of the president's office.

"The entire population needs to prepare for a tough winter."

President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Twitter on Tuesday that in the past eight days, 30% of Ukraine's power stations had been destroyed, "causing massive blackouts across the country".

Ukrainian energy firm DTEK said two of its thermal power plants had been significantly damaged by Russian shelling, leaving one worker dead and six others wounded.

Russia has stepped up attacks in recent weeks on electricity infrastructure in cities away from the front lines. Officials have rushed to repair the damage, but the strikes, ahead of winter, have raised concerns about how the system will respond.

The latest attacks came 24 hours after "kamikaze" drones - believed to have been supplied by Iran - killed at least nine people in Kyiv and Sumy, as strikes on infrastructure caused power cuts in hundreds of towns and villages.

It was not initially clear to what extent drones were involved on Tuesday. Ukraine said Russian bombers had fired missiles and one S-300 anti-aircraft missile had hit a residential building in the southern city of Mykolaiv overnight, killing one person. The city's flower market was also destroyed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63297239

[Jimbuna]

Germany will support sanctions against Iran for supply of drones to Russia, - Berbok

German Foreign Minister Annalena Berbock supports strengthening sanctions against Iran for supplying military drones to Russia.

This is reported by Censor.NET with refence to LIGA.net.

"In my opinion, in connection with the supply of drones from Iran to Russia, there should be another package of sanctions against the Iranian regime," she said.

Solid evidence will show, the minister said, that both regimes "are not only brothers in spirit, but also support each other by supplying weapons." Meanwhile, she noted, the origin of the drones used by Russia must be proven: "Of course, everything must be legally clean. The kamikaze drones that were also shot down in Kyiv are very clear where they are from."

"That's why our only response, given the dire situation in Iran itself, is that we have launched a [new] package of sanctions," added the German foreign minister.

Asked by a journalist how these new sanctions will hurt Iran, which has been living under them for decades and has successfully developed a weapons program, Burbok said that "if we do this together as a global community, there will be consequences." Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374576

[Skybird]

Nord Stream blast 'blew away 50 metres of pipe'

At least 50 metres (164ft) of an underwater pipeline bringing Russian gas to Germany is thought to have been destroyed by a blast last month.


(...)



Nord Stream 2 was still awaiting clearance for use when Russia invaded Ukraine in February.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63297085


For heaven's sake, I hope somebody blows up the remaining parts of the pipes as well - just to make sure that nobody can ever plan with approaching Russia for reopening it. :hmmm: There shall be no way back as long as Russia is what it is.



The saltwatrer should increase the damages anyway, constantly.

[kpv1974]

What of the security of the Ukraine, Poland, Germany..... The list goes on. You seem to forget the history of the USSR in subjugating it neighbors for decades. It has been only Russia that threatens the world with Nuclear war. You must know if that happens, Russia is signing it's own death warrant as the U.S and other countries will respond with their own Nuclear weapons. Chances are, both you and I and millions of others will die in the exchange of weapons and Nuclear fallout. Does that sound good to you ? Putrid's threats of Nuclear war are only an example of his military's incompetence and ineptitude.

Putrid has decried the loss of the greater " Soviet Union." In truth, because of the political system there, Russia has never been more than a large third world country and Autocracy. Putrid wants to reclaim those countries that formed the former" Warsaw Pact " forces. You must know this will never happen and those former countries will go after Russia with a vengeance if Putrid makes a move on them.

The United States has nothing to do with this. These countries decided they love liberty, freedom and the right to think for themselves. They have an inalienable right to do that. If you like living in Russia and being led around by the nose and having others do your thinking for you, that's your right as well. Good luck with that.

The Ukraine reserves the right to have and maintain it's freedom as well. Only a small man and dictator like Putrid would have an issue with that. One thing is certain. The countries that had been subjugated by Russia will never return to the fold. You and Russia will see war up close and personal if you decide to try to reclaim those countries. The Ukraine is an example of this.

If you don't like what is happening in Russia, show some courage and remove him or take him out. That's a problem and decision for the people of Russia. If you do like what Russia is doing, then live with the consequences.

Do not make me laugh - free countries. Yes, they cannot sneeze without the approval of overseas owners.
From whom did they become free? From Russia? Well, so they became under the protectorate of the United States.
Poland was raised financially entirely at the expense of the United States. It was a reward for the fact that the Poles were the first to break out of the socialist ghetto.
The other countries of the Warsaw bloc did not receive any money. On the contrary, all the assets were taken by the Americans. For example Bulgaria - the energy sector was completely bought out by American companies.

At the moment - the locomotive of Europe is Germany. German technology (as well as the famous German ordnung), coupled with cheap Russian resources, the Americans cannot allow this.
And someone is slipping onto the path of industrial terrorism in order to tear Germany away from cheap Russian resources.
It would be naive to think that the gas pipelines were blown up at the direction of Putin. If this were true, the entire "free press" of the world would trumpet it on every corner.
the Swedes investigated the sabotage, but they are afraid to announce the results of the investigation. Here are the "free" countries.

PS: "Italian politician, journalist and former MEP Giulietto Chiesa previously reported that the lands of five regions of Ukraine were sold for 50 years with the right to extend the lease (that is, forever, as he put it) to Anglo-Dutch Shell and American Chevron."

just business, nothing personal...

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine will receive even more macro-financial aid from EU by end of year, - von der Leyen

Ukraine will continue to receive new tranches of macro-financial assistance from the European Union.

The President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, announced this on Twitter, Censor.NET informs.

"Today we are providing Ukraine with 2 billion euros of macro-financial assistance. Even more will be provided by the end of the year. We will be by Ukraine's side as long as it is needed. We will discuss how to ensure stable financial support with global partners at the conference," the message reads. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374578

[Commander Wallace]

Do not make me laugh - free countries. Yes, they cannot sneeze without the approval of overseas owners.
From whom did they become free? From Russia? Well, so they became under the protectorate of the United States.
Poland was raised financially entirely at the expense of the United States. It was a reward for the fact that the Poles were the first to break out of the socialist ghetto.
The other countries of the Warsaw bloc did not receive any money. On the contrary, all the assets were taken by the Americans. For example Bulgaria - the energy sector was completely bought out by American companies.

At the moment - the locomotive of Europe is Germany. German technology (as well as the famous German ordnung), coupled with cheap Russian resources, the Americans cannot allow this.
And someone is slipping onto the path of industrial terrorism in order to tear Germany away from cheap Russian resources.
It would be naive to think that the gas pipelines were blown up at the direction of Putin. If this were true, the entire "free press" of the world would trumpet it on every corner.
the Swedes investigated the sabotage, but they are afraid to announce the results of the investigation. Here are the "free" countries.

PS: "Italian politician, journalist and former MEP Giulietto Chiesa previously reported that the lands of five regions of Ukraine were sold for 50 years with the right to extend the lease (that is, forever, as he put it) to Anglo-Dutch Shell and American Chevron."

just business, nothing personal...


I will anxiously await while you post some empirical evidence and proof to back up your claims.

[Jimbuna]

Germany will continue to supply weapons and military equipment to Ukraine, - Berbok

Ukraine will continue to receive weapons and military equipment from Germany. Next to other help.

This was stated by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Germany, Annalena Berbok, at the Berlin Foreign Policy Forum on October 18, Censor.NET informs with reference to Ukrinform.

"We will continue to intensively support Ukraine with weapons... We will also support Ukraine humanitarianly, politically, and financially as long as necessary," the minister said.

According to the Minister of Foreign Affairs, this is a condition of joint security and insurance. In addition, this is not just a matter of protecting people in Ukraine, it is a matter of solidarity.

Burbok noted that it is possible to talk with Russia only from the standpoint of a strong democracy. Europe, the West cannot be as naive as in 2014.

"With his 'referendums', Putin made it clear that he is not looking for a way out of the war... Putin is not mobilizing groups for negotiations, he is mobilizing soldiers for the war in Ukraine," the German minister emphasized.

Russian soldiers commit the worst crimes in the occupied territories. Berbok also reminded about Putin's goals - complete capture of Ukraine. She noted that there can be no peace and security for Europe at the moment together with this Putin's Russia.

Burbok assured that Germany's eastern neighbors in the EU and NATO can count on Berlin, which, unfortunately, did not listen to them very carefully before, in particular about the threat from Russia, as well as dependence on Russian energy carriers, which made Germany vulnerable, about an object for blackmail.

"We must not repeat the mistakes. We must not become dependent again," Burbok concluded. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374595

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine breaks diplomatic relations with Iran, - Kuleba

Minister of Foreign Affairs Dmytro Kuleba initiated the break in diplomatic relations between Ukraine and Iran.

This was announced by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmytro Kuleba during a briefing, Censor.NET informs.

"Taking into account the numerous destructions caused by Iranian drones to the civilian infrastructure of Ukraine, the deaths and sufferings caused to our people, as well as in connection with the reports about the possible continuation of Iran's supply of weapons to Russia, I am submitting to the president a proposal to break diplomatic relations with Iran", - he noted.

Until now, Ukraine has never taken an anti-Iranian position.

"But after Iran became a participant in the crime of aggression, today we will take a very clear and honest position. If Iran stops supplying Russia with weapons, we will talk about restoring relations," the minister added.

Kuleba also called on Europe to introduce sanctions against Iran. He made a corresponding statement at a meeting of ministers of the European Union. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374601

[Skybird]

30% of Ukraines powerplants have been destroyed, says Selenskji.

Winter is coming.

Iranian drones are cheaper than Russian missiles, I read.

The Ukrainian offensive looks to slow down, and has slowed down. The Russians are consolidating their position, somehow, a little bit, but steadily.

They are playing for time, waiting for winter - to see what winter will do for them and will do to the Ukrainians. Russian soldiers may be ill-equipped for winter, but Russian governments have never cared for their soldiers. Ukrainian civilian population is not well equipped for winter too, if powerplants are destroyed.

In the end the psychopath in the Kremlin ticks by the logic of that if he cannot have it, he nevertheless can destroy it. It resists his will, so it deserves to be punished.

[mapuc]

Day 237 of my 3 day war. Ukraine doesn't need Western air defense systems as my air force can crash on its own.

I remain a master strategist.

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1582262165272072192

Markus

[kpv1974]

I will anxiously await while you post some empirical evidence and proof to back up your claims.

I will answer your empirical statements that Russia is a 3rd world country (yes, call it at least a tenth country).
A country with nuclear, space technologies, somehow does not fit into the 3rd world system.
Underestimating the opponent leads to very sad consequences, do not forget this.
Interesting, but American bombers over Kyiv and dozens of combat helicopters - of course, the Americans have nothing to do with it.
In 1962, the Americans really did not like the proximity of Russian missiles to Cuba.
Russians should like bombers near their borders?
Or is it "other"?
Shaking weapons does not lead to anything good. When the big batch begins, there will be no good or bad. Everyone will get full.

PS: Вefore you blame all the evil on Putin, look back at your politicians. At the same time, I will repeat once again - I am in no way shielding Putin.
Your politicians are also to blame for this crisis.

The basis of the Bulgarian energy sector was the three thermal power plants "Maritsa-Vostok" and the nuclear power plant "Kozloduy", built by Soviet specialists. In 2001, the Bulgarian government of Ivan Kostov handed over the Maritsa-Vostok 1 and Maritsa-Vostok 3 CHPPs to the American electric giants AES and СontourGlobal. At the same time, the state undertook to buy from them all the electricity produced at ultra-high prices over the next 15 years. Later, under pressure from Washington, the project of the second Belene nuclear power plant was closed, and then at the negotiations on joining the EU, the country was given a condition - to close the existing Kozloduy power plant. As a result, four out of six nuclear power plants were shut down, and Bulgaria, in accordance with EU regulations, was forced to buy "green" electricity (solar-powered stations also belong to the Americans, who invested more than 1 billion euros in them) at a price 10 times higher than that on which it was produced at Kozloduy, and is 15 times more expensive than nuclear power. Ultimately, this made the country even more dependent on foreign subsidies, since Bulgaria was not able to cover the additional costs that appeared on its own.
Read more: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2018/03/19/komu-prinadlezhat-balkany-chast-iv

[August]

This isn't just about Putin.

The Russian people put this monster into power, made him President for Life and they continue to support his increasingly dictatorial regime in spite of his obvious imperialistic attempts to swallow up their neighbors, so I do not differentiate between the head of the snake and the rest of the body that keeps it alive. It's all one slimy serpent of brutish thuggery to me and has been since the days of the Czar regardless of which regime is currently in power.

When an increasingly similar tyrant named hitler talked about "Lebensraum" it wasn't just some extra room for the teeming masses of German Volk to spread out in but a ruthless attempt to steal the same natural resources that the Russian criminals are now attempting to capture themselves. Whether it is Crimean Oil, Ukrainian Wheat or mineral resources both fuhrers seek the same thing and both are quite willing to cleanse the land of the Ukrainians living on it.

Best that the Russians are stopped now or we'll be seeing the same thing happen again further eastward.

[Jimbuna]

Covert mobilization is taking place in Belarus, - General Staff

Covert mobilization of the Armed Forces continues in Belarus under the guise of training sessions.

As Censor.NET informs, this is reported on the official Facebook page of the General Staff.

"The Republic of Belarus continues to support the armed aggression of the Russian Federation against Ukraine, providing its infrastructure and airspace. There remains the threat of missile and air strikes, as well as the use of the Shahed-136 attack UAV from the territory of the Republic of Belarus. Under the guise of training sessions, covert mobilization of the armed forces continues Belarus. According to available information, measures are being taken to train operators of anti-aircraft missile systems and tank crews," the message states. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374670

[Jimbuna]

EU agreed on new sanctions against Russia and Belarus, - Jozvyak

The European Union agreed on further sanctions against Russia and Belarus.

This was reported on Twitter by Rikard Jozvyak, the correspondent of Radio Liberty in Brussels, Censor.NET informs.

"It seems that the EU has reached a common consensus on further sanctions against Russia (although not on energy) and Belarus," he said.

According to Jozwiak, work on sanctions is expected to be accelerated in the coming days. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374645

[Commander Wallace]

I will answer your empirical statements that Russia is a 3rd world country (yes, call it at least a tenth country).
A country with nuclear, space technologies, somehow does not fit into the 3rd world system.
Underestimating the opponent leads to very sad consequences, do not forget this.
Interesting, but American bombers over Kyiv and dozens of combat helicopters - of course, the Americans have nothing to do with it.
In 1962, the Americans really did not like the proximity of Russian missiles to Cuba.
Russians should like bombers near their borders?
Or is it "other"?
Shaking weapons does not lead to anything good. When the big batch begins, there will be no good or bad. Everyone will get full.

PS: Вefore you blame all the evil on Putin, look back at your politicians. At the same time, I will repeat once again - I am in no way shielding Putin.
Your politicians are also to blame for this crisis.

The basis of the Bulgarian energy sector was the three thermal power plants "Maritsa-Vostok" and the nuclear power plant "Kozloduy", built by Soviet specialists. In 2001, the Bulgarian government of Ivan Kostov handed over the Maritsa-Vostok 1 and Maritsa-Vostok 3 CHPPs to the American electric giants AES and СontourGlobal. At the same time, the state undertook to buy from them all the electricity produced at ultra-high prices over the next 15 years. Later, under pressure from Washington, the project of the second Belene nuclear power plant was closed, and then at the negotiations on joining the EU, the country was given a condition - to close the existing Kozloduy power plant. As a result, four out of six nuclear power plants were shut down, and Bulgaria, in accordance with EU regulations, was forced to buy "green" electricity (solar-powered stations also belong to the Americans, who invested more than 1 billion euros in them) at a price 10 times higher than that on which it was produced at Kozloduy, and is 15 times more expensive than nuclear power. Ultimately, this made the country even more dependent on foreign subsidies, since Bulgaria was not able to cover the additional costs that appeared on its own.
Read more: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2018/03/19/komu-prinadlezhat-balkany-chast-iv


So, in other words, you have nothing to back up your baseless claims other than your words. I should add that I expected you would have some proof from a reputable international source or clearing house of your claims.



I expected as much.

[Jimbuna]

As result of shelling on October 18, six energy facilities were damaged in Ukraine - Shmyhal

Russian occupation forces have been trying to destroy the Ukrainian energy system for more than a week. Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmyhal stated this at a government meeting on October 18

As Censor.NET informs, the website of the Cabinet of Ministers reports this.

"Russian troops continue their terror and attacks on the critical infrastructure of Ukraine. For more than a week, they have been trying to destroy our energy system. During this time, several dozen energy facilities were damaged," Shmyhal said.

According to Shmyhal, on October 18, the Russian Federation attacked Ukrainian energy infrastructure facilities in Zhytomyr, Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkiv, Mykolaiv, Donetsk regions and in Kyiv.

"Six energy facilities were damaged. In the morning, Zhytomyr and a number of settlements in the region, the left-bank part of Kyiv were cut off. Work is now underway to restore the power supply," he added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3374675

[Dargo]

Do not make me laugh - free countries. Yes, they cannot sneeze without the approval of overseas owners.
From whom did they become free? From Russia? Well, so they became under the protectorate of the United States.
Poland was raised financially entirely at the expense of the United States. It was a reward for the fact that the Poles were the first to break out of the socialist ghetto.
The other countries of the Warsaw bloc did not receive any money. On the contrary, all the assets were taken by the Americans. For example Bulgaria - the energy sector was completely bought out by American companies.

At the moment - the locomotive of Europe is Germany. German technology (as well as the famous German ordnung), coupled with cheap Russian resources, the Americans cannot allow this.
And someone is slipping onto the path of industrial terrorism in order to tear Germany away from cheap Russian resources.
It would be naive to think that the gas pipelines were blown up at the direction of Putin. If this were true, the entire "free press" of the world would trumpet it on every corner.
the Swedes investigated the sabotage, but they are afraid to announce the results of the investigation. Here are the "free" countries.

PS: "Italian politician, journalist and former MEP Giulietto Chiesa previously reported that the lands of five regions of Ukraine were sold for 50 years with the right to extend the lease (that is, forever, as he put it) to Anglo-Dutch Shell and American Chevron."

just business, nothing personal...1911-44. tannu-tuva tries to leave Russian Colonialism. Moscow stages a coup, installs a puppet regime, starts cultural erasure, sends ethnically Russian settler colonialists, forces Tuva to grant them citizenship and eventually annexes the country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvan_People%27s_Republic
1916-34. Central Asian nations try to leave Russian Colonialism. Moscow invades to 'protect from violence’ & to 'civilize.' Bukhara, one of the world's oldest cities, bombed to the ground. Tens of thousands slaughtered in pogroms and ethnic cleansing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmachi_movement
1917-53. Ukraine is leaving Russian Colonialism. Moscow invades to ‘stop violence’, spends years on a mass murder spree across the country, stokes unrest, and eventually occupies it. Kremlin uses the Holodomor genocide, mass terror to crush the resistance https://holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/
1917-20. Azerbaijan leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow manufactures fakes about mass murders and invades ‘to stop violence.’ tens of thousands were slaughtered in the following terror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_invasion_of_Azerbaijan
1917-20. Armenia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow invades 'to protect from impending genocide.' in practice, it means dissolving the republic and occupying it https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/armenia
1917-24. Georgia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow stages ethnic violence and invades to ‘protect itself.’ Russians execute thousands, deport 20,000+ in ethnic cleansing https://georgianjournal.ge/society/32243-february-25-1921-heroic-georgians-who-fought-against-russias-red-army.html https://civil.ge/archives/397042/amp
1917-45. North Caucasus leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow stages ethnic violence, invades to ‘stop it.’ Russians deploy a series of genocides and mass deportations in the following two decades, killing hundreds of thousands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountainous_Republic_of_the_Northern_Caucasus
1917-21. Bashkortostan leaves Russian Colonialism, becomes the world's first Muslim democracy. Moscow stokes internal divisions, lures into a military union with fake promises of preserving the democracy, mass murders the elites and then absorbs it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashkiria_(1917%E2%80%931919)
1917-20. Estonia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow assembles pro Russian Estonian paramilitary forces, a puppet Estonian leadership, and invades to ‘protect Estonian opposition.’ Estonians kick Russians out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBA0xDHZjko
1917-44. Indigenous nation of Crimean Tatars leaves Russian Colonialism, set up the 2nd-ever Muslim democracy. Moscow invades 'to protect opposition,' executes 33-yo president Numan Celebicihan. Genocide, deportations kill every 2nd Crimean Tatar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_People's_Republic
1917-20. Ukrainians of don/kuban’ leave Russian Colonialism, set up democracies. Russians stoke internal political/ethnic divisions, assassinate political leadership, invade to 'protect itself.' Moscow ethnically cleanses and Russifies the region https://babel.ua/en/texts/76760-104-year-ago-kuban-people-s-republic-declared-its-independence-from-russia-and-for-several-times-tried-to-unite-with-ukraine-as-a-result-bolsheviks-captured-everyone-here-s-its-story
1917-18. Idel-Ural tries to leave Russian Colonialism. A Tatar proto-republic had one of the world's 1st democratic Muslim parliaments. Moscow stokes internal ethnic divisions, kidnaps MPs, invades, starves almost a third of local population to death https://idel-ural.org/en/
1917-53. Belarus leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow creates a puppet state, invades to ‘’liberate’. A Small Belarusian army resists Kremlin forces for over a month on a heroic suicide mission, but loses. 600k+ killed in ethnic cleansing https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/belarus
1917-53. Moldova leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow stokes the divide, invades to ‘liberate.' neighboring Romania kicks Russians out, absorbs Moldova. Russians reoccupy it in 1940 via pact with Hitler. Tens of thousands killed/deported https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/belarus
1917-43. The indigenous nation of Kalmyks leaves Russian Colonialism, joins anti-colonial coalition of Ukrainian Cossack and northern Caucasian states. Moscow invades, punishes Kalmyks with controlled starvation, deports entire nation, killing every third https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/kalmykia-s-long-goodbye/
1917-37. Indigenous nation of Buryats leaves Russian Colonialism. Russians infiltrate buryat-mongolia government, stoke divide, disband it. Moscow occupies the state to “civilize it out of feudalism.” tens of thousands are slaughtered, become refugees https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/kalmykia-s-long-goodbye/
1918-20. Latvia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow creates a competing puppet government, manufactures a ‘civil war’ narrative to legitimize the invasion, but Latvians kick Russians out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_War_of_Independence
1918-20. Lithuania leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow breaks post-ww1 treaty that guaranteed Lithuanian independence, creates a puppet state to legitimize the invasion, orchestrates a coup, but Lithuanians push back https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_Wars_of_Independence
1918-22. Karelia launches anti-Russian Colonialism uprising. Moscow lies it is a foreign incursion, invades, bans democratically-elected assembly, creates a puppet govt. hundreds slaughtered, approx 30,000 became refugees, local language/culture banned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Karelian_uprising
1918-24. Indigenous Evenki people leave Russian Colonialism amid mass terror and cultural erasure. Moscow lures the republic into ceasefire with fake autonomy promises, then mass slaughters the leadership https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungus_Republic
1918-27. Indigenous nation of Sakha leaves Russian Colonialism. Russians fuel the internal divide. Moscow creates a competing puppet republic and recolonizes the state. Mass murder of local elites and settler colonialism turn Sakha into a 33% minority https://ojs.lib.uwo.ca/index.php/iipj/article/view/8269
1921-39. Mongolia is trying to leave Chinese colonialism, asks international help. Russians insert themselves into domestic infighting, invade to 'liberate from feudalism’, bring the country into colonial subjugation. Moscow orchestrated terror kills 30k+ https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/mongolia
1931-33. Indigenous nation of Khanty tries to leave Russian Colonialism after centuries of exploitation, cultural erasure. Moscow drowns anti-colonial uprising in blood, decimating local indigenous villages with aircraft artillery and machine guns https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazym_rebellion
1932. indigenous nation of dolgans tries to leave Russian Colonialism, sick of economic exploitation, cultural erasure. Moscow lures the nation into a ceasefire with fake promises of autonomy, later murders uprising leaders https://tol.org/client/article/cold-colonization-in-russias-arctic.html
1934-43. Indigenous nation of nenets tries to leave Russian Colonialism after centuries of exploitation, cultural erasure. Moscow deploys troops and machine guns. Surviving rebels are arrested, and many are tortured to death https://www.academia.edu/479640/Two_Wars_in_Conflict_Resistance_among_Nenets_Reind eer_Herders_in_the_1940s_2005_
1937-47. Planning another colonization of Poland, Moscow claims all poles are foreign spies, launches genocide slaughtering over 111,000 of them, every 5th living under Russian rule, under the excuse of ‘protecting’ Russia https://operacja-polska.pl/nke in 1939, as a facade for a secret colonial deal with Hitler, Moscow claims the protection of ethnic minorities in Poland, invades it, and partitions it up. Russian colonial troops kill 150,000, deport 320,000, rape 100,000 Polish citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland Kremlin installs a soviet satellite regime in Poland by 1945. Tens of thousands of poles resist in the anti-colonial wolność i niezawisłość guerilla movement, but most get killed or deported https://ipn.gov.pl/en/brief-history-of-poland/collected-content/9323,COLLECTED-CONTENT-The-Cursed-Soldiers.html
1939-40. Moscow schemes to recolonize finland via russian Colonialism deal with hitler, creates a puppet statelet, vows to protect it against the ‘fascist military clique in helsinki,’ and invades. amid heavy losses kremlin settled for 11% of finland https://babel.ua/en/texts/55473-82-years-ago-the-ussr-attacked-finland-the-soviet-union-hoped-for-a-quick-and-easy-victory-but-eventually-lost-more-than-a-hundred-thousand-soldiers-in-three-months-we-recall-the-winter-war-in-archive

This is your USSR this is your revolution violent couped by lenin who turned it into a hell for the workers this is your history of your freedom let me have myn under the United states that liberated us and helped us after WWII this is all that this child has to say to you!

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3ydbR6ysyE

[Dargo]

So, in other words, you have nothing to back up your baseless claims other than your words. I should add that I expected you would have some proof from a reputable international source or clearing house of your claims.



I expected as much.There's one surest way to provoke the inner colonist to come out in almost every Russian, no matter how anti Putin they claim to be: ask them if their granddads 'liberated' something in ww2

[kpv1974]

1911-44. tannu-tuva tries to leave Russian Colonialism. Moscow stages a coup, installs a puppet regime, starts cultural erasure, sends ethnically Russian settler colonialists, forces Tuva to grant them citizenship and eventually annexes the country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvan_People%27s_Republic
1916-34. Central Asian nations try to leave Russian Colonialism. Moscow invades to 'protect from violence’ & to 'civilize.' Bukhara, one of the world's oldest cities, bombed to the ground. Tens of thousands slaughtered in pogroms and ethnic cleansing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmachi_movement
1917-53. Ukraine is leaving Russian Colonialism. Moscow invades to ‘stop violence’, spends years on a mass murder spree across the country, stokes unrest, and eventually occupies it. Kremlin uses the Holodomor genocide, mass terror to crush the resistance https://holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/
1917-20. Azerbaijan leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow manufactures fakes about mass murders and invades ‘to stop violence.’ tens of thousands were slaughtered in the following terror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_invasion_of_Azerbaijan
1917-20. Armenia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow invades 'to protect from impending genocide.' in practice, it means dissolving the republic and occupying it https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/armenia
1917-24. Georgia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow stages ethnic violence and invades to ‘protect itself.’ Russians execute thousands, deport 20,000+ in ethnic cleansing https://georgianjournal.ge/society/32243-february-25-1921-heroic-georgians-who-fought-against-russias-red-army.html https://civil.ge/archives/397042/amp
1917-45. North Caucasus leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow stages ethnic violence, invades to ‘stop it.’ Russians deploy a series of genocides and mass deportations in the following two decades, killing hundreds of thousands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountainous_Republic_of_the_Northern_Caucasus
1917-21. Bashkortostan leaves Russian Colonialism, becomes the world's first Muslim democracy. Moscow stokes internal divisions, lures into a military union with fake promises of preserving the democracy, mass murders the elites and then absorbs it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashkiria_(1917%E2%80%931919)
1917-20. Estonia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow assembles pro Russian Estonian paramilitary forces, a puppet Estonian leadership, and invades to ‘protect Estonian opposition.’ Estonians kick Russians out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBA0xDHZjko
1917-44. Indigenous nation of Crimean Tatars leaves Russian Colonialism, set up the 2nd-ever Muslim democracy. Moscow invades 'to protect opposition,' executes 33-yo president Numan Celebicihan. Genocide, deportations kill every 2nd Crimean Tatar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_People's_Republic
1917-20. Ukrainians of don/kuban’ leave Russian Colonialism, set up democracies. Russians stoke internal political/ethnic divisions, assassinate political leadership, invade to 'protect itself.' Moscow ethnically cleanses and Russifies the region https://babel.ua/en/texts/76760-104-year-ago-kuban-people-s-republic-declared-its-independence-from-russia-and-for-several-times-tried-to-unite-with-ukraine-as-a-result-bolsheviks-captured-everyone-here-s-its-story
1917-18. Idel-Ural tries to leave Russian Colonialism. A Tatar proto-republic had one of the world's 1st democratic Muslim parliaments. Moscow stokes internal ethnic divisions, kidnaps MPs, invades, starves almost a third of local population to death https://idel-ural.org/en/
1917-53. Belarus leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow creates a puppet state, invades to ‘’liberate’. A Small Belarusian army resists Kremlin forces for over a month on a heroic suicide mission, but loses. 600k+ killed in ethnic cleansing https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/belarus
1917-53. Moldova leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow stokes the divide, invades to ‘liberate.' neighboring Romania kicks Russians out, absorbs Moldova. Russians reoccupy it in 1940 via pact with Hitler. Tens of thousands killed/deported https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/belarus
1917-43. The indigenous nation of Kalmyks leaves Russian Colonialism, joins anti-colonial coalition of Ukrainian Cossack and northern Caucasian states. Moscow invades, punishes Kalmyks with controlled starvation, deports entire nation, killing every third https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/kalmykia-s-long-goodbye/
1917-37. Indigenous nation of Buryats leaves Russian Colonialism. Russians infiltrate buryat-mongolia government, stoke divide, disband it. Moscow occupies the state to “civilize it out of feudalism.” tens of thousands are slaughtered, become refugees https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/kalmykia-s-long-goodbye/
1918-20. Latvia leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow creates a competing puppet government, manufactures a ‘civil war’ narrative to legitimize the invasion, but Latvians kick Russians out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_War_of_Independence
1918-20. Lithuania leaves Russian Colonialism. Moscow breaks post-ww1 treaty that guaranteed Lithuanian independence, creates a puppet state to legitimize the invasion, orchestrates a coup, but Lithuanians push back https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_Wars_of_Independence
1918-22. Karelia launches anti-Russian Colonialism uprising. Moscow lies it is a foreign incursion, invades, bans democratically-elected assembly, creates a puppet govt. hundreds slaughtered, approx 30,000 became refugees, local language/culture banned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Karelian_uprising
1918-24. Indigenous Evenki people leave Russian Colonialism amid mass terror and cultural erasure. Moscow lures the republic into ceasefire with fake autonomy promises, then mass slaughters the leadership https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungus_Republic
1918-27. Indigenous nation of Sakha leaves Russian Colonialism. Russians fuel the internal divide. Moscow creates a competing puppet republic and recolonizes the state. Mass murder of local elites and settler colonialism turn Sakha into a 33% minority https://ojs.lib.uwo.ca/index.php/iipj/article/view/8269
1921-39. Mongolia is trying to leave Chinese colonialism, asks international help. Russians insert themselves into domestic infighting, invade to 'liberate from feudalism’, bring the country into colonial subjugation. Moscow orchestrated terror kills 30k+ https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/mongolia
1931-33. Indigenous nation of Khanty tries to leave Russian Colonialism after centuries of exploitation, cultural erasure. Moscow drowns anti-colonial uprising in blood, decimating local indigenous villages with aircraft artillery and machine guns https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazym_rebellion
1932. indigenous nation of dolgans tries to leave Russian Colonialism, sick of economic exploitation, cultural erasure. Moscow lures the nation into a ceasefire with fake promises of autonomy, later murders uprising leaders https://tol.org/client/article/cold-colonization-in-russias-arctic.html
1934-43. Indigenous nation of nenets tries to leave Russian Colonialism after centuries of exploitation, cultural erasure. Moscow deploys troops and machine guns. Surviving rebels are arrested, and many are tortured to death https://www.academia.edu/479640/Two_Wars_in_Conflict_Resistance_among_Nenets_Reind eer_Herders_in_the_1940s_2005_
1937-47. Planning another colonization of Poland, Moscow claims all poles are foreign spies, launches genocide slaughtering over 111,000 of them, every 5th living under Russian rule, under the excuse of ‘protecting’ Russia https://operacja-polska.pl/nke in 1939, as a facade for a secret colonial deal with Hitler, Moscow claims the protection of ethnic minorities in Poland, invades it, and partitions it up. Russian colonial troops kill 150,000, deport 320,000, rape 100,000 Polish citizens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland Kremlin installs a soviet satellite regime in Poland by 1945. Tens of thousands of poles resist in the anti-colonial wolność i niezawisłość guerilla movement, but most get killed or deported https://ipn.gov.pl/en/brief-history-of-poland/collected-content/9323,COLLECTED-CONTENT-The-Cursed-Soldiers.html
1939-40. Moscow schemes to recolonize finland via russian Colonialism deal with hitler, creates a puppet statelet, vows to protect it against the ‘fascist military clique in helsinki,’ and invades. amid heavy losses kremlin settled for 11% of finland https://babel.ua/en/texts/55473-82-years-ago-the-ussr-attacked-finland-the-soviet-union-hoped-for-a-quick-and-easy-victory-but-eventually-lost-more-than-a-hundred-thousand-soldiers-in-three-months-we-recall-the-winter-war-in-archive

This is your USSR this is your revolution violent couped by lenin who turned it into a hell for the workers this is your history of your freedom let me have myn under the United states that liberated us and helped us after WWII this is all that this child has to say to you!

I mean, as I understand it, it was not the Estonian communists who were the leaders in Estonia, but the Russians? In Georgia - weren't Georgians on the party committee, in Armenia weren't Armenians? And so on?

Stop talking nonsense - the bulk of the population, everything was fine in these republics.
And these republics were also led by local national cadres. Again, you blame all the Russians. As for the countries of the Warsaw bloc, this is a different story. We must remember how the coalition divided post-war Europe. Or is it the Russians who took Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary, etc. etc. No, that's how Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt divided it.

[Rockstar]

https://youtu.be/iAgB75P9S1I

Yes, we are small nations, we are not 100-200 million, but we have history, culture, we love, we want to be respected.' Rahmon said in a fiery outburst.

'We do not need anything; just to be respected.'

The humiliation was witnessed by the rulers of Azerbaijan, Armenia, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan.

'Why do we have to beg (Russia to attend) some miserable forum in Tajikistan?' Rahmon demanded of Putin, jabbing his finger and making expansive gestures.

'I gave instructions to the Foreign Ministry, I even talked to you to ask (Russia) to attend at least at the ministerial level. No, at the level of deputy ministers. Is this what Tajikistan deserves, a strategic partner?'

It is not the first time that Putin's so-called friends and partners in Asia have turned on him publicly since his debacle in Ukraine now that they sense weakness and smell blood.

At a summit in Samarkand, Uzbekistan last month, Chinese premier Xi Xinping snubbed dinner with Putin, while Indian prime minister Narendra Modi told Putin in front of the media that 'now is not the time for war'.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan also humiliated the Russian warmonger by making him wait in front of rolling cameras for half a minute before coming out to greet him ahead of talks.

In the rambling and unscripted tirade, the Tajik dictator almost predicted Putin's demise, accusing his Russian counterpart of making the same mistakes that led to the downfall of the Soviet Union last century.

He also complained that Russian businessmen came into the country and enriched themselves by extracting Tajikistan's natural resources while refusing to invest in the country.

'We do not want your money, we want to be respected as we deserve. We host your military bases, we do everything you ask for, we really try to be what you pretend to be to us ''strategic partners.''

But we are never being treated like strategic partners! No offence, but we want to be respected!'

But you’ll make money with the U.S. and NATO partners.:up:

[kpv1974]

There's one surest way to provoke the inner colonist to come out in almost every Russian, no matter how anti Putin they claim to be: ask them if their granddads 'liberated' something in ww2

Yeah.
Your evidence - is not evidence.:D
You expected proof from BBC? Sorry - they prefer not to write such things.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGszr6nkaGQ

[les green01]

Do not make me laugh - free countries. Yes, they cannot sneeze without the approval of overseas owners.
From whom did they become free? From Russia? Well, so they became under the protectorate of the United States.
Poland was raised financially entirely at the expense of the United States. It was a reward for the fact that the Poles were the first to break out of the socialist ghetto.
The other countries of the Warsaw bloc did not receive any money. On the contrary, all the assets were taken by the Americans. For example Bulgaria - the energy sector was completely bought out by American companies.

At the moment - the locomotive of Europe is Germany. German technology (as well as the famous German ordnung), coupled with cheap Russian resources, the Americans cannot allow this.
And someone is slipping onto the path of industrial terrorism in order to tear Germany away from cheap Russian resources.
It would be naive to think that the gas pipelines were blown up at the direction of Putin. If this were true, the entire "free press" of the world would trumpet it on every corner.
the Swedes investigated the sabotage, but they are afraid to announce the results of the investigation. Here are the "free" countries.

PS: "Italian politician, journalist and former MEP Giulietto Chiesa previously reported that the lands of five regions of Ukraine were sold for 50 years with the right to extend the lease (that is, forever, as he put it) to Anglo-Dutch Shell and American Chevron."

just business, nothing personal...

well shoot you mean we liberated a bunch of countries over there then gave them back and then got ownership of them again after we help rebuild them,never pay twice for real estate and you telling us that putin fell in a ukraine trap well couldn't be under biden he has a hard enough time reading a teleprompter :har: wake up smell what shoveling

[Dargo]

I mean, as I understand it, it was not the Estonian communists who were the leaders in Estonia, but the Russians? In Georgia - weren't Georgians on the party committee, in Armenia weren't Armenians? And so on?

Stop talking nonsense - the bulk of the population, everything was fine in these republics.
And these republics were also led by local national cadres. Again, you blame all the Russians. As for the countries of the Warsaw bloc, this is a different story. We must remember how the coalition divided post-war Europe. Or is it the Russians who took Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary, etc. etc. No, that's how Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt divided it.Russian denying this proofs it Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt divided it but Stalin annexed it West Europe was free to make their choices East Europe had no choice than to obey the orders out of the Kremlin after it robbed it empty the United States provide West Europe with goods and money to rebuild itself by our own choice in freedom and prosperity. Putin thinking he can do it over again is of a world so past ours he will only lose. "Dad, can I have the car keys?" / "OK, but don't lose them. We will get a new lada only if I sent you to Ukraine!"

[kpv1974]

Russian denying this proofs it Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt divided it but Stalin annexed it West Europe was free to make their choices East Europe had no choice than to obey the orders out of the Kremlin after it robbed it empty the United States provide West Europe with goods and money to rebuild itself by our own choice in freedom and prosperity. Putin thinking he can do it over again is of a world so past ours he will only lose. "Dad, can I have the car keys?" / "OK, but don't lose them. We will get a new lada only if I sent you to Ukraine!"

Was it Stalin who led Poland or the GDR? No. These were Polish and German personnel. Why don't you criticize them? It was they who kept these countries in the communist bloc.

Cared about the "LADA". It is in the Ukrainian segment of the network that they disperse such nonsense. Personally, I do not know such fools who would exchange their lives for a piece of iron with wheels.

PS: Btw, in Russia there is a criminal punishment for refusing to go to war.
Go on war, or go to prison.

[Jimbuna]

FOR EVERYONE'S ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION

I'm off now to watch an evening football/soccer match on tv so would be extremely grateful if my post of earlier today (see below) was heeded.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2833223&postcount=7458
Quite an eventful evening was had by all I see.

So, where to begin.....

Whilst taking into account how current events in Ukraine can be so emotive on everybody regardless of which side they support, I must stress that anyone posting in this thread must give due recognition to the fact and try to remain calm.

There are points made that I personally agree with and there are other points I have a fundamental disagreement with.

If you disagree with something posted then you obviously have a right to reply/challenge. After all, that is what forum posting is about but if you are going to resort to swearing and name calling then you are clearly in breach of the forum 'FAQ & Rules (see link at the top of each page/board)

I'm now going to report this post I've made so that the forum owner is aware of what has happened and in so doing enable him to understand why I have resorted to taking any remedial action should that be necessary in the future.

I'll end by respectfully suggesting that it is easier to ignore someone rather than take the bait thereby fanning the flames.

I thank you all for your cooperation in advance.

I'm not sure if Neal will be around these parts during my absence but I will be back in the morning and sincerely hope no remedial work will be necessary.

I thank you all in advance for your cooperation.

[Catfish]

Russia has so much natural resources it is almost ridiculous.
What could this country become if it just concentrated on educating its population for some twenty to thirty years and invest the money it gets from selling resources in science and its people, instead blowing it out the window with corruption and an incompetent cleptocracy that favors a few.
Short-sighted autocratic dumbwits.

[kpv1974]

Russia has so much natural resources it is almost ridiculous.
What could this country become if it just concentrated on educating its population for some twenty to thirty years and invest the money it gets from selling resources in science and its people, instead blowing it out the window with corruption and an incompetent cleptocracy that favors a few.
Short-sighted autocratic dumbwits.

You're not right. They don't throw it away in window. Until recently, they kept it all in the west. Real estate in Miami, yachts in Corsica, six-figure accounts in General Societe.
Now the west has taken that away from them.
Rob what was stolen.:up:

[kpv1974]

well shoot you mean we liberated a bunch of countries over there then gave them back and then got ownership of them again after we help rebuild them,never pay twice for real estate and you telling us that putin fell in a ukraine trap well couldn't be under biden he has a hard enough time reading a teleprompter :har: wake up smell what shoveling

the war was inevitable. if they had chosen not Trump, but Clinton's wife, it would simply have started much earlier.

[August]

Russia has so much natural resources it is almost ridiculous.
What could this country become if it just concentrated on educating its population for some twenty to thirty years and invest the money it gets from selling resources in science and its people, instead blowing it out the window with corruption and an incompetent cleptocracy that favors a few.
Short-sighted autocratic dumbwits.


Corruption is corrosive. It destroys everything it touches, but in Russia it has been a national past time since days of the Czars. Unless you fix that first I think the only possible result is going to be a kleptocracy in one form or other.

[Catfish]

Was it Stalin who led Poland or the GDR?
Indirectly, he installed puppets to rule in his name.
These were Polish and German personnel. Why don't you criticize them? It was they who kept these countries in the communist bloc.
The paid puppet leaders were INDEED criticized, by the free world and by their own people. When their own people rebelled like in Germany in 1953 or Checoslovakia in 1968 the protests were brutally subdued or invaded with russian tanks and russian soldiers.
Not that Pravda or TASS or any russian media would have told THIS part of russian history.

PS: Btw, in Russia there is a criminal punishment for refusing to go to war.
Go on war, or go to prison.Nope, not officially. According to Putin they are all volunteers, and they can leave the front whenever they want.
This at least was Putin's promise to the people.
You do not interfere in my russian oligarchy pool and cleptocracy and stay away from politics, and as a "reward" you will be granted a little bit of a better life. And no war, no conscription.
But you have to see it is the people of a nation who have to decide whether they go along with/help such creatures like Putin or not. The longer they wait, the longer the dictatorship exists, the harder it is to overcome it.
With the current level of surveillance technology it may at some point become impossible, like in China.

[Catfish]

You're not right. They don't throw it away in window. Until recently, they kept it all in the west. Real estate in Miami, yachts in Corsica, six-figure accounts in General Societe.
This is exactky what i mean with throwing it out the window. Do you believe any of those cleptocrats spent only one rouble of their stolen money from the russian people for RUSSIA? Or for the russian people they stole it from?
Now the west has taken that away from them.
Rob what was stolen.:up:My heart bleeds for the russian oligarchs who support Putin and who suddenly reap the whirlwind they sowed.