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Jimbuna
10-04-22, 05:40 AM
"They were beaten. They were not fed. They were tied to the ceiling. Girls’ nails were torn off and they were raped. Boys were wound with wires on their genitals", - war crimes of the Russian occupiers in Kozacha Lopan. VIDEO
The occupiers from Russia turned the center of Kozacha Lopan into a place of torture and horror. Hundreds of Ukrainian citizens went through these basements and inhumane tests.
As reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Eastern Operational-Territorial Association of NSU, Guardsman Andrii, who is on duty in de-occupied Kozacha Lopan, spoke about the war crimes of the occupiers almost every day. He has to communicate a lot with the local population. He heard many testimonies about the terrorist regime established by the invaders in the village.
The occupiers from Russia turned the center of Kozacha Lopan into a place of torture and horror. Hundreds of Ukrainian citizens went through these basements and inhumane tests.
As reported by Censor.NET with reference to the Eastern Operational-Territorial Association of NSU, Guardsman Andrii, who is on duty in de-occupied Kozacha Lopan, spoke about the war crimes of the occupiers almost every day. He has to communicate a lot with the local population. He heard many testimonies about the terrorist regime established by the invaders in the village.
"Here is this basement. The Russians kept and tortured people in it. There is another building. Interrogations were also held there. There we found a TA-57 phone, the so-called "tapik" used for torture - it turns on, terminals are attached to the body, and it is electrocuting. There were civilians, prisoners of war, and soldiers from the army," Andrii said.
The enemy in the same basement did not hesitate to use drugs and alcohol, eat, have fun, etc. This information is also confirmed by representatives of local self-government bodies. Moreover, there were several such places only in Kozacha Lopan.
"Many young girls were raped by the invaders. They made a basement for torture. Our volunteers were thrown there. They were killed. They were not fed. They were tied to the ceiling. Girls' nails were torn off. The boys' genitals were wound with wires. Our city council deputy passed through this basement. His teeth were knocked out, his ribs were broken. He was taken to Russia. According to the latest information, he was tried, but he is in a Russian prison," says the head of the Derhachy territorial community, Viacheslav Zadorenko.
He added that the Russians intimidated the parents and forced them to write orders to take the children to health camps.
The Russian invaders also constantly satisfied their mercantile needs at the expense of the local population. Collaborators often helped him in this.
"Russian looters - five men with machine guns came: "Grandfather, open the shed!" I said: "What did you forget there?" And they said: "Open it, we told you! Bring out the Yamaha scooter. And I tell him that it's not mine, I'm eighty years old and I don't have the strength to carry it all. So they rolled it out themselves. I barely restrained myself from hitting him, because he has a machine gun, and before that he wanted to shoot the dog," said local resident Anatoliy Poltorachenko. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3371382
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Speaking on state-controlled network Russia One, television host Vladimir Solovyov said: "In real life, I'd really like us to attack and take Kyiv tomorrow but I am aware that, for those 300,000 who are undergoing partial mobilisation, time is required for that.
"Time is required for their training, for their combat coordination, and for them to have everything they need for entering battle.
"This means that for a certain period of time, things won't be easy for us.
"Right now, we shouldn't be expecting good news. We need to possess 'long will' and strategic patience."
Here's an idea. :up:
Next time, don't invade another country based only on a whim. :yeah:
Russia will be looking up to North Korea for quite some time, possibly for generations. Doing invasions at the drop of a hat and using threats of dropping nukes isn't good for business. :O:
It is really the one date that makes everyone in the Kremlin shake with fear. That day is October 7, Vladimir Putin’s birthday. On that day, there is a roll call of the president’s magnificent achievements that year.
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/putins-70-birthday-and-russian-elections-are-bad-news-for-ukraine/
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Shady Bill
10-04-22, 08:32 AM
The world needs to stop with this Woke sentiment that somehow this is the work of one crazy maniac (Putin) and all those poor Russians suffer under his regime. The vast majority of Russians support their leader and the war on Ukraine.
The only solution to this conflict is the complete breakup of Russia. Divide the land between semi-reliable Chinese interests, Saudi partners and create a Greater European Union. I think countries like Germany, Poland and Ukraine should be given large tracts of Russian land and access to a free Russian labor force to compensate for the burdens placed on these nations.
This all sounds very harsh, and I certainly don't mean to offend. Putin is threatening nuclear war.
When a man shows his true self, believe him.
Fortunately, or unfortunately, there is a LOT of political and economic hay to be made. :03:
There are countries more than ready to sell energy (Oil, gas, petroleum, nuke power, etc.) to Europe.
That old imitative for Russia to develop the Artic for global trade sounds (now) like its wasted money. :yep:
What? The American people better wake up.We don't have bite on a dogs bone over there.That's an EU problem' It's their backyard. Their so great let's see how they can handle it without the Americans for 1 time.
Our membership in NATO kind of makes that attitude problematic don't you think?
Skybird
10-04-22, 09:49 AM
Fortunately, or unfortunately, there is a LOT of political and economic hay to be made. :03:
There are countries more than ready to sell energy (Oil, gas, petroleum, nuke power, etc.) to Europe.
That old imitative for Russia to develop the Artic for global trade sounds (now) like its wasted money. :yep:
Often overlooked. Not only gas but also nuclear fuel by Russian state company Rossatom is not being sanctioned, and Europe depends on it, in this case: especially France. This needs not to be, there would be other options to get nuclear fuel from another seller than Russia. Even Germany could be self-supplying!
The oil we buy from India and maybe also a bit from China (dont know the latter), is oil these countries bought from Russia cheaply, and then sell to us with a great profit bonus and in defiance of the sanctions on Russian oil. Turkey and I think it was South Africa also stockpile huge ammounts for later use or sales.
Also, Greek ship owners allow Russian tankers to pump thetr oil onto greek tankers at high sea. Nice play, Greece. Greece loyalty to NATO in case of a war with Russia always has been in doubt for me. Do not forget that both are orthodox Christian, and now look at the big role of orthodox Church in Russian politics. Even the Catholic pope, by economic ideas a real communist, took six month before he stopped calling patriarch Kyrill a sgood Chrostain and at one opporutnity then publicly quesitoned his role in this war - cautiously. The chriuches since two millenia always have massively interferred with politics, for the sake of their own power and profit hunger, and they have agreed to so many wars of aggressiopn and for the sake of supressing others. like Kyrill does today.
No saints such saints are, but diabolic bastards. Sometimes I regret I do not believe in all this fantasy stuff, else I could wish them to burn in hell.
Shady Bill
10-04-22, 10:06 AM
The biggest tactical mistake being made right now is that countries bordering Russia are accepting and sometimes even encouraging Russian men of military age to defect and enter their borders. All under the banner of "humanitarianism". These people are spies and infiltrators.
I would estimate a relatively high percentage of these men and women are Russian internals (30%+). People sent to these countries on purpose to destabilize. I hope nations that take in these Russian men, that seem to not have the nerve to serve in their nation's military, and keep them isolated from the general populace by any means possible (military encampments is most likely the only realistic option).
It is incorrect to think taking on these men will somehow deplete Putin of soldiers. Weak recruits who don't have the will or the courage to fight for their country, will deplete its military internally like a cancer.
Putin is a man who has calendars published and distributed to his people, where every different month it is him shirtless, catching a different fish (true story). He operates on a primal level.
The only way for the world to deal with this man is swift, brutalizing, overwhelming force. If we invaded Russia today, I am not so sure his military would even fight for him.
Skybird
10-04-22, 10:08 AM
The former head of Ukrainian gas company Naftogaz, Andrij Koboljew, says that the explosives that blew up the pipelines in the Baltic got already mounted on the pipelines when it was build.
FOCUS writes:
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Andrij Koboljew told the " Süddeutsche Zeitung " that there can be no doubt about Russia's culpability. "Gas deliveries are not a business for Russia. They are a weapon, and Russia has always been ready to use this weapon to blackmail Europe. Especially the Germans never wanted to admit that to themselves," he told the newspaper.
Ukrainian energy expert: Only Russia can be behind pipeline sabotage
The energy manager also explains why, in his view, only Russia can be behind the act. "These pipelines in the Baltic Sea are super monitored. There are many sensors embedded in the pipes that make it possible to monitor the flow of gas. [...] When the pipeline was completed by the production ship Akademik Chersky, Russian military vessels approached and reloaded equipment. This is on record. It is also known that these military vessels were commissioned by the Russian Navy to carry out sabotage operations on the high seas."
Because Nato also has a strong presence in the area, it is almost impossible that the bombs were planted by divers or submarines, Kobolyev says. He says: "They [the Russians, ed.] have already planted the explosives during the construction of the pipeline. This method is not a Russian invention, but a legacy of the Soviet Union. In the last construction phase of Nord Stream 2, all foreign companies and their ships were already sanctioned. So the pipeline was completed by Russian ships alone. These production ships were escorted by Russian warships. And the pipeline was completed exactly at the point where the explosion now occurred."
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Skybird
10-04-22, 10:11 AM
The biggest tactical mistake being made right now is that countries bordering Russia are accepting and sometimes even encouraging Russian men of military age to defect and enter their borders. All under the banner of "humanitarianism". These people are spies and infiltrators.
I would estimate a relatively high percentage of these men and women are Russian internals (30%+). People sent to these countries on purpose to destabilize. I hope nations that take in these Russian men, that seem to not have the nerve to serve in their nation's military, and keep them isolated from the general populace by any means possible (military encampments is most likely the only realistic option).
It is incorrect to think taking on these men will somehow deplete Putin of soldiers. Weak recruits who don't have the will or the courage to fight for their country, will deplete its military internally like a cancer.
Putin is a man who has calendars published and distributed to his people, where every different month it is him shirtless, catching a different fish (true story). He operates on a primal level.
The only way for the world to deal with this man is swift, brutalizing, overwhelming force.
^ :yep:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2830708&postcount=6982
If we invaded Russia today, I am not so sure his military would even fight for him.
Right, and then what would happen? :hmmm:
Keep in mind that NATO powers try to pay their own way (militarily). Look at what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq. We paid a lot for turf we gave back. We paid a lot to set up a different kind of government that failed.
I think Russia is on the hook this time. If they want to be more like Europe, they should try acting more like Europe. :yep:
kpv1974
10-04-22, 10:55 AM
The U.S is hardly worried. The Ukrainians aided by Western weapons are doing just fine. Meanwhile, your own countrymen from Russia wet their pants and run like the cowards they are from a fight with real men. Other Russians simply surrendered. Meanwhile, in Russia, Your men are running for the border of whatever host country will take them to avoid the mobilization orders in Russia. I can only assume Russian forces know only how to kill innocent women and children and torture them, meaning, the general civilian population. The Russian army acts more like a street gang than a disciplined professional fighting force. It's the Russian forces that should be afraid.
I truly don't mean to be rude but if you expect a sympathetic ear or a shoulder to cry on, on behalf of Soviet Russia, you came to the wrong place. And yes, the term Soviet Russia wasn't a typo. The only ones I feel bad for, aside from the Ukraine is the decent Russians who don't want to kill what they consider to be a neighbor, friend and family, meaning the Ukraine. Russians are despised the world over and Russian is a terrorist state and a pariah.
The Americans, during their "peacekeeping" campaigns, killed several million innocent civilians in different parts of the globe. However, no one despises them around the world. Why is that ?
You never think that the system of double standards stops working.
Putin thinks in simple logic - since the Americans can, why can't he. Moreover, in his arsenal, there are also nuclear weapons.
He considers himself an equal player.
kpv1974
10-04-22, 11:10 AM
FOCUS writes:
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Andrij Koboljew told the " Süddeutsche Zeitung " that there can be no doubt about Russia's culpability. "Gas deliveries are not a business for Russia. They are a weapon, and Russia has always been ready to use this weapon to blackmail Europe. Especially the Germans never wanted to admit that to themselves," he told the newspaper.
Ukrainian energy expert: Only Russia can be behind pipeline sabotage
The energy manager also explains why, in his view, only Russia can be behind the act. "These pipelines in the Baltic Sea are super monitored. There are many sensors embedded in the pipes that make it possible to monitor the flow of gas. [...] When the pipeline was completed by the production ship Akademik Chersky, Russian military vessels approached and reloaded equipment. This is on record. It is also known that these military vessels were commissioned by the Russian Navy to carry out sabotage operations on the high seas."
Because Nato also has a strong presence in the area, it is almost impossible that the bombs were planted by divers or submarines, Kobolyev says. He says: "They [the Russians, ed.] have already planted the explosives during the construction of the pipeline. This method is not a Russian invention, but a legacy of the Soviet Union. In the last construction phase of Nord Stream 2, all foreign companies and their ships were already sanctioned. So the pipeline was completed by Russian ships alone. These production ships were escorted by Russian warships. And the pipeline was completed exactly at the point where the explosion now occurred."
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In my opinion, it would be easier for the Russians to simply "close the valve" on this pipe than to blow it up. Don't you think that this is a more logical version?
Skybird
10-04-22, 11:20 AM
Putin thinks in simple logic - since the Americans can, why can't he.
The Americans lost in Vietnam in the years 1965 to 1975 some 58 thousand own soldiers. That is slightly less than the Russians have lost in the ukriane after just 7 months. Also, the Americans gained their military mission objectives and won every major ground engagement - they lost the war politically, not militarily. Russia in the ukraine fails to gain its objectives, and gets defeated by routine now in ground engagements. Its loosing. Poltically AND militarily.
Thats why Putin can't.
Moreover, in his arsenal, there are also nuclear weapons.Maybe someone should call the Kremlin and remind them that so are in the Americans', Britons' and French's.
He considers himself an equal player.What he considers himself to be, and what the others accept to take him as, are two different things.
To me, he has degenerated into the equivalent of a murderously dangerous patient. He should actually be wearing a straitjacket and sitting in a padded cell.
In my opinion, it would be easier for the Russians to simply "close the valve" on this pipe than to blow it up. Don't you think that this is a more logical version?
Not dramatic enough. :yep:
Putin wants to send a message, "Do it my way or things start to explode". He also has a new Special Operations sub based on the Oscar II platform to play with.
kpv1974
10-04-22, 11:29 AM
The Americans lost in Vietnam in the years 1965 to 1975 some 58 thousand own soldiers. That is slightly less than the Russians have lost in the ukriane after just 7 months. Also, the Americans gained their military mission objectives and won every major ground engagement - they lost the war politically, not militarily. Russia in the ukraine fails to gain its objectives, and gets defeated by routine now in ground engagements. Its loosing. Poltically AND militarily.
Thats why Putin can't.
Maybe someone should call the Kremlin and remind them that so are in the Americans', Britons' and French's.
What he considers himself to be, and what the others accept to take him as, are two different things.
To me, he has degenerated into the equivalent of a murderously dangerous patient. He should actually be wearing a straitjacket and sitting in a padded cell.
Yes, I agree with you here.
The place of the insane in a psychiatric clinic.
kpv1974
10-04-22, 11:40 AM
Not dramatic enough. :yep:
Putin wants to send a message, "Do it my way or things start to explode". He also has a new Special Operations sub based on the Oscar II platform to play with.
That's what I was talking about - he always flaunts that he has a lot of "Red Buttons". And when he realizes that he has lost, he will give the order to press these buttons without hesitation. Will those people who will confirm this key to launch missiles be reasonable?
kpv1974
10-04-22, 11:50 AM
To: Skybird.
>>"The Americans lost in Vietnam in the years 1965 to 1975 some 58 thousand own soldiers. That is slightly less than the Russians have lost in the ukriane after just 7 months. Also, the Americans gained their military mission objectives and won every major ground engagement - they lost the war politically, not militarily. Russia in the ukraine fails to gain its objectives, and gets defeated by routine now in ground engagements. Its loosing. Poltically AND militarily."
BTW, I disagree with you here.
Any war is the achievement of political goals.
And if the political goals ones were not achieved, then all the sacrifices of their own soldiers were in vain.
les green01
10-04-22, 11:52 AM
The Americans, during their "peacekeeping" campaigns, killed several million innocent civilians in different parts of the globe. However, no one despises them around the world. Why is that ?
You never think that the system of double standards stops working.
Putin thinks in simple logic - since the Americans can, why can't he. Moreover, in his arsenal, there are also nuclear weapons.
He considers himself an equal player.
how did the french do in indochina,how they do in canada,how did they do in mexico seems like anymore they tuck their tails between their legs,how many did (north)Vietnamese executed,you look close at Putin you are going see a lot of Hitler
kpv1974
10-04-22, 11:59 AM
we see. and you see. But we don't know what to do with it.
You see, he is a dictator. And all the laws he made for himself.
Everything that is said against him - entails criminal punishment.
PS: in 1933, the people of Germany did not understand where they were drawn into.
There were talks about the shameful Brest Peace, when Germany admitted its defeat and this was a humiliation of the German nation.
Hitler said, I will force the German nation to be respected.
Putin went the same way.
Zelensky is excellent comedian. He turned "world's second most powerful military" into joke in just few weeks.
https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1577194869797158914
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Shady Bill
10-04-22, 12:45 PM
There is a big difference between having nukes and being able to deploy them effectively or in Russia's case, at all.
Not sure if any of you ever driven a Lada car? You ever bought a fine Russian watch? (They don't exist). This entire state is in decay.
The only reason Russia remains a world power, is because of the shirtless tyrant shooting red deer with a cross bow from 20 feet away.
Now that man is growing old, old men are not vigorous and turns out that was
all the Russians had....smoke screen...40+ year old silos.
a red button that does nothing when pressed.
FUBAR295
10-04-22, 12:58 PM
Hitler said, I will force the German nation to be respected.
Putin went the same way.
True respect is earned, not done with bellicose bluster and threats.
kpv1974
10-04-22, 01:03 PM
True respect is earned, not done with bellicose bluster and threats.
It means that the end of this adventure is historically predetermined.
You can not step on the same rake.
Shady Bill
10-04-22, 01:17 PM
Hitler said, I will force the German nation to be respected.
Putin went the same way.
You think Russia is being respected anywhere? They are the laughing stock
of the world right now and most likely for the foreseeable future.
Hitler almost conquered the world. Putin can't hold onto a couple hundred square miles.
When the Russian oligarchs have had enough of Putin's madness things will change. Change will never come from the Russian people themselves; It is an inherent "sheep" mentality that is very hard for them to overcome.
What? The American people better wake up.We don't have bite on a dogs bone over there.That's an EU problem' It's their backyard. Their so great let's see how they can handle it without the Americans for 1 time.The US military complex profits skyrockets because of the invasion of Ukraine same goes for the energy industry for the US this war is a god sent present finally they can fix the Russia problem they so eager they're willing to sent about +1 billion per month, and they will make a lot of money of it nothing you can do about that that is capitalism deal with it.
Russia better not use nukes on Ukraine. The Russian people better wake up and pull their head out of their ass. There won't be any business as usual with Russians if this happens.It will mean the destruction of the Russian army if they ever dare.
Biden announced a new $625 million military aid package in a conversation with Zelensky.
It will include:
- 4 HIMARS installations and ammunition;
- 16 155-mm howitzers (M777?);
- 16 105-mm howitzers;
- 200 MRAP MaxxPro machines;
- 75,000 155-mm shells;
- 500 high-precision 155-mm shells (M982 Excalibur?);
- 1,000 155-mm RAAMS shells;
- 30,000 120-mm mines;
- 200,000 cartridges for small arms;
- equipment for setting obstacles;
- Claymore mines;
- other equipment.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3179323/625-million-in-additional-security-assistance-for-ukraine/
The Russians abandoned the Oskil River line, Ukrainian defenders advanced to liberate all of Kharkiv region. The liberation of Luhansk region has begun, the Russians may attempt to hold the Kreminna-Svatove-Troits'ke line along Route 66 but give them no change with the type and state of troops on those fronts. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have Route 66 in Luhansk region under their fire control, this cuts the connection between Kreminna and Svatove and constrains the Russians temporarily occupying those towns.
https://i.postimg.cc/RZ8xxMNQ/Fe-Pk-D0x-WQAAZx8-X.jpg
Russian units defeated on these fronts were previously considered among Putin’s top conventional fighting forces.
In less than two weeks after the partial mobilisation was announced, about 700,000 people left Russia.
Source: Forbes, citing multiple sources
Details: According to one source, almost 1 million people have left Russia since the beginning of the mobilisation. The second source, in the administration of the President of the Russian Federation, reports that between 600,000 and 700,000 Russians have left the country. The magazine’s source emphasised that it is not yet clear what percentage of people left the country as tourists.
According to Forbes, the media previously cited the figure of 194,000 Russians who left for Georgia, Kazakhstan and Finland in the week after the announcement of mobilisation. At the beginning of September, even before the announcement of partial mobilisation, the Federal State Statistics Service (Russia) stated that 419,000 people had left the Russian Federation in the first half of 2022 – twice as many as in the same period the previous year. There was a net migration outflow (- 96,000) in the first six months of 2022, as compared to a net inflow of 114,000 during the same period in 2021 https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/4/7370341/
Catfish
10-04-22, 02:24 PM
we see. and you see. But we don't know what to do with it.
You see, he is a dictator. And all the laws he made for himself.
Everything that is said against him - entails criminal punishment.
PS: in 1933, the people of Germany did not understand where they were drawn into.
There were talks about the shameful Brest Peace, when Germany admitted its defeat and this was a humiliation of the German nation.
Hitler said, I will force the German nation to be respected.
Putin went the same way.
I agree, however.. in 1944 Hitler said that if Germany was not able to defend itself against the "invaders" [sic!] it had no right to survive, and he gave appropriate orders, to burn all, to raze Paris before evacuating and so on; it is only that a few generals refused to do this. Imagine if he had had nuclear weapons.
Moscow could rush in ill-prepared troops now, or wait to send better-trained ones next year and risk further Ukrainian gains meanwhile
Russia’s defense minister said 200,000 men had entered the army as part of a mobilization drive that began last month as the rapid advance of Ukrainian forces into Russian-occupied territories outpaces Moscow’s ability to pour in reinforcements.
The suggestion that Russia is already two-thirds of the way toward the target the minister, Sergei Shoigu, announced last month follows criticism of the call-up process—including from Russian President Vladimir Putin. But it raises questions as to whether the depleted Russian military will be able to cope with the sheer numbers of new recruits and use them effectively.
Western military analysts say Moscow faces a dilemma. It could rush ill-prepared troops to the front line to try to stem the losses—with likely little effect on the war’s momentum. Or it could wait until next year and send in better trained and equipped troops that could potentially make a difference on the battlefield. But by that time, Ukrainian forces could have secured significant further gains.
“It’s not going to help the Russians, at least not this winter, and they may well lose ground before that,” said Lawrence Freedman, professor emeritus of war studies at Kings College London.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-touts-rapid-mobilization-but-faces-dilemma-as-ukrainians-advance-11664902438
With the Antonovsky bridge in the state it is in and limited water crossing capacity, we could be looking at a mass surrender or worse in Kherson. Russia, already shocked by the mounting losses, could have to confront an unprecedented type of loss in this war so far. One source has told me the amount of equipment Ukraine will seize in this operation, if they indeed push to the Dnipro river banks in Kherson, will be totally unprecedented. Tons of trapped equipment that can't cross back to the other side of the river. "It will supply Ukraine for the next phase of campaign. Massive windfall. Some of it has been sitting for a long time already. It's not going anywhere and they are not destroying this stuff. High-end stuff. SAMs, EW, armor." https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1577375414728921088
Catfish
10-04-22, 02:50 PM
An idea :03:
How about fully suporting Ukraine with all means, let them take back the Donbass and Krimea.
Ukraine gets back its territory and does some referenda in Donbass etc.
(hard to top Putin's 114 percent pro-russian, but ok make it 115 percent :03:)
Then internationally accept Ukraine and all of its territory as "annexed" in the borders of pre-2014.
(Internationally meaning all nations sans Russia, North Koea (and maybe China. But only maybe).)
Biden announced a new $625 million military aid package in a conversation with Zelensky.
It will include:
- 4 HIMARS installations and ammunition;
- 16 155-mm howitzers (M777?);
- 16 105-mm howitzers;
- 200 MRAP MaxxPro machines;
- 75,000 155-mm shells;
- 500 high-precision 155-mm shells (M982 Excalibur?);
- 1,000 155-mm RAAMS shells;
- 30,000 120-mm mines;
- 200,000 cartridges for small arms;
- equipment for setting obstacles;
- Claymore mines;
- other equipment.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3179323/625-million-in-additional-security-assistance-for-ukraine/Pentagon confirms that 500 precision-guided 155 mm artillery rounds in the latest security package for Ukraine are Excalibur rounds. https://twitter.com/OstapYarysh/status/1577379860938268672
On This Day; A good day Ukraine advancing in the south & east, and Russia's top propagandists are in doom & gloom, we need to blame someone mode. :D
https://i.postimg.cc/PqrSMqYz/Fe-QB6e3-XEBU6c-Ib.jpg
North Kherson Front (October 4)
Ukrainian Forces liberated the settlements of Davydiv Brid, Dudchany, Velyka Oleksandrivka, Arkhanhelske, and Starosillya
Within three days Ukrainian Forces successfully advanced 35km South along the Dnipro River
Confirmed Dudchany by Call https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1577286369520472064
Does anyone keep count on how many times they have said this ?
US arms supplies to Ukraine are moving closer to the dangerous line of a direct military clash between Russia and NATO - Foreign Ministry of Mordor
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1577372486412419104
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les green01
10-04-22, 07:24 PM
Does anyone keep count on how many times they have said this ?
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1577372486412419104
Markus
i don't But then the then real Americans are subborn and hard headed
Shady Bill
10-04-22, 07:44 PM
In less than two weeks after the partial mobilisation was announced, about 700,000 people left Russia.
Where do all these people go???? :doh: I know Europe takes pride in accepting
fugitives, derelicts and runaways into its borders...I 100% understand that every single Ukrainian who had to run from their country deserves refuge.
But what are they going to do with a million Russian men who don't want to fight the Russian war? lol...I mean really? where do they put these people? They don't send them home, knowing Europe's sick obsession with "doing the right thing"...Do they give them free housing and jobs and such? :hmmm:
em2nought
10-05-22, 12:04 AM
Where do all these people go???? :doh:
Martha's Vineyard? :D
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 08:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dke4CcodeS0
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 08:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okJbDIkRni4
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 08:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lHUYKjpb6A
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 08:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxzs-qHnkqI
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 08:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN8rS0tFvBM
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 08:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ICTPG9x0Y
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 08:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFqQhcUL4-o
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 08:45 AM
Peskov says that Russians will regain liberated Ukrainian territories
The press secretary of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Dmytro Peskov, expressed confidence that the Russian occupiers will once again seize the territories of Ukraine liberated by the Ukrainian military, on which the Russian Federation previously held pseudo-referendums and which Putin "joined Russia."
He told Russian journalists about this, Censor.NET reports with reference to Russian media.
Journalists asked if there are any contradictions between Putin's words that the "accepted territories" are with Russia forever and that Russian troops are retreating from some territories.
"There is no contradiction here, they will be with Russia forever, they will be returned," Peskov replied.
He also added that the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions of Ukraine "became part of Russia" in those borders where the military-civilian administration of the occupiers operated "at the time of acceptance."
"But I repeat once again, certain territories there will be returned. And we will continue to consult with the population that shows a desire to live with Russia," Peskov added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371703
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 08:47 AM
Leaders of 27 EU member states declared that they do not recognize new annexation of occupied territories of Ukraine by Russian Federation
The leaders of the 27 EU member states issued a joint statement condemning the annexation of Ukrainian territories and the illegal joining of the Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia and Kherson regions of Ukraine to the Russian Federation.
As Censor NET reports this with reference to the Information Department of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine
"We do not and will never recognize the illegal "referendums" organized by Russia as a pretext for further violation of the independence, sovereignty, and territorial integrity of Ukraine, nor their falsified and illegal results. We will never recognize this illegal annexation. These decisions are invalid and cannot have any legal consequences," the statement said.
EU countries also took new diplomatic steps towards Russia in response to the so-called referendums and illegal annexation and began summoning Russian diplomats. In particular, Belgium, Italy, Austria, Poland, Finland, Germany, etc. summoned the ambassadors of the Russian Federation.
Lithuania also summoned the ombudsman of the Russian Federation. In addition to the protest in connection with the annexation of the territories of Ukraine, Vilnius decided to declare the diplomat persona non grata. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371701
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 08:56 AM
USA advises Ukraine to liberate southern territories before winter, - Financial Times
US officials and lawmakers have warned that Ukraine faces a critical battle to regain territory in the country’s south before winter sets in if it is to deny Russia a chance to tighten its grip on the region.
As Censor.NET informs with reference to LIGA.net, the Financial Times writes about it.
The Pentagon said Kyiv must use its momentum in the east to push back Russian forces occupying strategic regions in the south, the gateway to the Black Sea.
"The fighting season is coming to an end. The Ukrainians have gained the upper hand and must continue to use their advantage," said Chris Murphy, a Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
While Ukraine has succeeded in its lightning counteroffensive in Kharkiv region and the unexpected ouster of Russian forces from Lyman in Donetsk region, Western allies see the liberation of Kherson as a crucial test.
"If you control Kherson, you can definitely prevent the Russians from going to Odesa, I think we all believe that the Russians really want that," said a senior US military official.
Officials said Ukrainian forces urgently need to retake the south before winter, as the ground in the region has not frozen for the past three years, meaning the terrain will soon become extremely boggy. And this, according to officials and analysts, gives an advantage to those who defend themselves. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371698
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 09:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ28VklKl7Y
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 09:10 AM
Russia says it will recapture areas of annexed territory that fell to a Ukrainian advance.
A Kremlin spokesman said "they will be with Russia forever, they will be returned!"
President Putin signs laws formalising the annexation, in defiance of international law.
Ukraine says its forces have advanced in four regions: Kherson, Kharkiv, Luhansk and Donetsk.
President Volodymyr Zelensky says his troops are making rapid progress, especially in Kherson.
The EU is poised to sign a fresh round of sanctions against Russia, its eighth package.
Analysis: For Russian commanders the omens aren't good
Russia is putting a brave face on its recent losses, in the east and the south. But those losses are so dramatic that it’s hard to put a positive spin on them.
Russian forces have been constantly out-manoeuvred and out-thought by the Ukrainian military. As one Western official put it yesterday, “Ukrainian commanders are throwing problems at the Russian chain of command faster than the Russians can respond.”
Russia, of course, is in the middle of a major process of mobilisation. It’s chaotic and riddled with problems but it will, in time, generate a significant number of new troops. How effective they will be remains to be seen, but 200,000 men is not nothing.
Ukraine knows this and is keeping up the pace, trying to take as much ground as it can before Russia is able to strike back. It has no such manpower problems, and it’s getting more and more sophisticated Western equipment every day.
As things stand, it’s hard to see how Russia can regain any of the territory it has just retreated from. Its losses, in manpower, equipment and morale, have been quite staggering. It’s been many months since it could boast any significant achievements. Ukrainian forces, meanwhile, are exuding confidence.
This could change, but it would need several things to happen.
Russia’s newly conscripted soldiers would have to be put to effective use. Its commanders would have to show a great deal more creativity than they have so far. And the West would have to lose interest in Ukraine.
For Moscow, the omens are not good.
Skybird
10-05-22, 09:42 AM
Putler makes Kadyrov a colonel general.
Aha. Might be Putler's way to say "Please save my azz" without explicitly saying "Please save my azz."
Putler makes Kadyrov a colonel general.
Aha. Might be Putler's way to say "Please save my azz" without explicitly saying "Please save my azz."
Reminds one of how old Adolph made von Paulus a Field Marshal just before the fall of Stalingrad. At least Vlad doesn't have to air drop the badge of rank to the new Colonel General. He hasn't been cut off, yet. :03:
Does anyone keep count on how many times they have said this ?
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1577372486412419104
MarkusCount the US arms supplies there you have your number Russian biaatch
Where do all these people go???? :doh: I know Europe takes pride in accepting
fugitives, derelicts and runaways into its borders...I 100% understand that every single Ukrainian who had to run from their country deserves refuge.
But what are they going to do with a million Russian men who don't want to fight the Russian war? lol...I mean really? where do they put these people? They don't send them home, knowing Europe's sick obsession with "doing the right thing"...Do they give them free housing and jobs and such? :hmmm:
It is not only Europe Russians go to far east, Russian satellites and Middle East the acceptance differs per country EU has countries that do not want Russians others do.
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 12:38 PM
"I was surprised by results of referendums," - Putin
The President of the Russian Federation, Volodymyr Putin, claims that the results of the so-called "referendums" that took place in the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine came as a surprise to him.
As Censor.NET informs, Putin's words were quoted by the RIA-Novosti news agency.
"To be honest, the results of the referendums not only pleased me, but also surprised me - after all, people lived and continue to live in such difficult conditions... the result, of course, is more than convincing, and it is completely transparent, this result is not subject to any doubt," the Russian dictator assures. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371732
Putler makes Kadyrov a colonel general.
Aha. Might be Putler's way to say "Please save my azz" without explicitly saying "Please save my azz."Could be Putler thinking ohh you biaach public about me so nao be my war bitch and feel the might of the Russian fail your self
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 12:41 PM
Putin instructed to transfer Zaporizhzhia NPP to Russian control
The President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin, ordered the Zaporizhzhia NPP to be taken under Russian control.
As Censor.NET informs about this with reference to the website of the Kremlin.
With his "decree", Putin instructed the Russian government to ensure "the acceptance into federal ownership of the objects of the use of atomic energy of the Zaporizhzhia NPP and other property that is necessary for the implementation of its activities." It is also ordered to take measures to create a "federal state unitary enterprise of Zaporizhzhia NPP".
Putin instructed the Russian government to determine the specifics of the operation, licensing, and other aspects of regulating the activities of the "Joint-Stock Company "Operating Organization of Zaporizhzhia NPP"" for the period until 2028.
Rosenergoatom announced that Zaporizhzhia NPP was "led" by Oleg Romanenko, the former chief engineer of Balakiv NPP. It was also reported there that in the near future all employees of the ZNPP will be "employed" on the staff of the new "operating organization" with the retention of salaries. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371743
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 12:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZJSoIqTKc8
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 12:52 PM
Putin responds to setbacks: Russia's President Vladimir Putin has said he expects the situation to "stabilise" in Ukrainian regions annexed by the Kremlin after Moscow suffered military setbacks and lost several key towns to Kyiv.
Ukraine advances in Luhansk: Ukrainian troops have reclaimed six villages in Luhansk since Tuesday, an area previously entirely under Russian control, the region's head has told the BBC. Our correspondent in Kyiv, Hugo Bachega, says they are "small but very symbolic gains".
Oil producers slash output: Opec+ members - a group of the largest oil producers including Russia - have announced they will slash oil production by two million barrels a day, pushing up prices and boosting Russia's revenue. The US says it is disappointed by the decision.
More EU sanctions: The EU has agreed another round of sanctions against Russia, the bloc’s eighth, including further limits on trade with Russia. Our Brussels correspondent, Jessica Parker, says some EU members are already pushing for firmer measures.
Russia has become the largest weapons supplier to Ukraine. 320 tanks have been transfered to UKR by the west-- an additional 421 were abandoned by RU and placed into UKR service. IFVs, 210 from the west, 445 from RU, armored vehicles, 40 from the west, and 192 from RU. https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1577699612563066883
https://i.postimg.cc/3NGY68sd/Fe-Uds-VTXw-AI6-Ie0.jpg
Russian units start to surrendering to the Ukrainians in the Kherson oblast Russians likely to have negotiated this surrender, probably happening a lot more than we hear or see.
Jimbuna
10-05-22, 01:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW8AFm1K5JI
3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade seized to exist as much of 75% of Russia's elite GRU [Military Intelligence] 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Brigade were killed, wounded or missing during fighting in Lyman. They were considered among their best of RU’s SOF.
The BBC has learned that elite Russian military formations took part in the unsuccessful defense of Liman, and they suffered serious losses. The 3rd Guards Special Forces Brigade of the Main Directorate of the General Staff lost at least nine people dead and one seriously wounded during the retreat from Liman, the BBC found out by studying social networks and talking with the sister of one of the dead soldiers. Such military formations have been sent to the most important military missions since Soviet times. While the Russian army was retreating from this city in the Donetsk region, Russian propaganda told that it was defended by mobilized from the self-proclaimed LPR and Russian volunteers from the Bars units, which are formed in the regions.
"The entire third special brigade was killed by the special forces. They threw it into a meat grinder. What a handsome man I have. 19 years old."
"When performing tasks on the territory of Ukraine, my brother died heroically. Eternal memory to you, my heart, my hero!"
"They told me very sad news for me! My brothers, friends, true comrades in the service and just good men died. I will miss you!"
"We ask for prayers for the repose of the warrior Vyacheslav (Zintsov), a graduate of the boarding school at the Nikolo-Shartomsky Monastery. He died in Krasny Liman."
On September 30 and October 1, a number of messages appeared on the VKontakte social network, which indicated that the retreat of the Russian army from the city of Liman in the Donetsk region was not as easy as the official Russian media reported, and not only volunteers tried to defend the city from Russia or mobilized residents of the self-proclaimed republics that Vladimir Putin had declared by that time to be Russian territory.
"8 people died, two were injured in serious condition. One of them died, one is still alive, but very heavy. The whole group almost died. The guys are real heroes. It's a pity that there are no more of these heroes," the BBC said. si sister of one of the dead servicemen, confirming that during the retreat from Liman, the detachment was lost by the 3rd special forces brigade of the General Staff from Tolyatti. "A total of nine people died, two were injured," said the wife of another victim.
Their relatives do not have full information about the place and circumstances of the death of the paratroopers, the information they receive is fragmentary: “I know that these guys were abandoned there, they fought back for a whole day, but could not. My brother died, he was only 21 years old, he died friend, he is 19 years old,” said the sister of the deceased. When the bodies of the servicemen will be returned home and when the funeral will take place, the families do not yet know.
19-year-old private Danil Boikov was the youngest in this department; senior lieutenant Vyacheslav Zintsov, junior lieutenant Viktor Gorobets, foremen Andrey Shorin and Yuri Filatov, and private Aleksey Chindin were killed with him. Servicemen Karpenko and Uzbyakov were taken to the hospital with severe wounds. Uzbyakov later died.
This is probably the largest one-time loss of the 3rd Special Purpose Brigade, although it suffered losses from the very beginning of the war: “Of course, [losses] were, but does anyone tell us about this,” said the sister of one of the victims.
As far as we know from open sources, the first fighters of the 3rd GRU brigade died in early March. Before the retreat from Liman, the most difficult day for the brigade was the day from March 3 to March 4 - then four scouts were killed: company commander Major Azamat Alimov, captain Alexei Chuchmanov, junior sergeant Stanislav Gerasimov and junior sergeant Yegor Bukatin.
https://www-bbc-com.translate.goog/russian/news-63134219?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Shady Bill
10-05-22, 02:36 PM
Martha's Vineyard? :D
Hahaha true enough :haha:
Commander Wallace
10-05-22, 09:45 PM
This is another installment in the incredibly sad saga of the Russian invasion of the Ukraine. Unfortunately for Russia, this also comes under the heading of " Lifestyles of the incredibly incompetent and stupid."
Apparently, Russia's mercenary arm, the Wagner Group has been killing Russian soldiers. The Wagner group encompasses many hundreds of former prison inmates. Silly me, I thought they were on the same side. :doh:
Quote: Putin's plan has backfired as the private military force butts heads with the Russian military. The growing conflict resulted in a Wagner fighter gunning down a lieutenant colonel in the Russian army—a deadly episode of “friendly fire” that the Kremlin is said to be trying to sweep under the rug, according to the human rights group
Gulagu.net (https://t.me/NetGulagu/3503?single).
The alleged shooting is not the only recent instance of infighting between Russian troops. Earlier this week, a mass brawl broke out between newly drafted Russian troops and contract soldiers at a military base outside Moscow, Baza (https://t.me/bazabazon/13626) reported.
Nearly two dozen contract soldiers are said to have taken a beating from the draftees and were rescued after locking themselves in a separate room and phoning police for help. The fight reportedly erupted after some of the contract soldiers demanded the newly arrived draftees hand over their mobile phones and gear.
I wonder if Putin can hear the laughing the world over at his stupidity and incompetence and ineptitude. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic that innocent people on both sides are losing their lives.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-dueling-foot-soldiers-now-155912351.html
em2nought
10-06-22, 01:54 AM
It's heartening to know that "we" aren't the only idiots in the world. :03:
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 06:10 AM
Ukraine could recapture Crimea as fleeing Russians continue to flounder
Ukraine could retake Crimea if it continues to recapture territory from fleeing Russian forces at its current rate, senior US military officials believe.
The assessment came as Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, acknowledged battlefield setbacks for the first time and Ukrainian troops pursued the Russian army into the Luhansk region, reversing one of the Kremlin’s key gains of the war.
Western officials have previously considered retaking Crimea by force impossible, because Russia was expected to fight tooth and claw to defend it.
But a senior US officer told The Telegraph that recent Russian military collapses mean “the recapture of Crimea by Ukraine is now a distinct possibility and can no longer be discounted”.
Pushing into Crimea would mean Ukraine going further than the front lines of Feb 23, when Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.
Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and would likely view a ground assault on the critical strategic enclave as a major escalation.
The US official said: "It is clear that Russia no longer has the ability or willpower to defend key positions, and if the Ukrainians succeed in their goal of recapturing Kherson, then there is a very real possibility that it will ultimately be able to recapture Crimea."
The comments follow those from Laura Cooper, US deputy assistant secretary of defence, who said that Crimea was within Ukraine's grasp. "And just to be clear, Crimea is Ukraine," she added.
She also said US weapons could be used to strike Crimea - a move the Kremlin has described as "extremely dangerous" and "evidence of direct US involvement in the conflict".
On Wednesday, in a rare admission of difficulties at the front, Putin said: "We are working on the assumption that the situation in the new territories will stabilise.”
The Russian leader also signed a bill formalising Russia’s “annexation” of Luhansk and three other Ukrainian regions on Wednesday. He also ordered Russia’s state nuclear monopoly to take over the running of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.
On Wednesday Serhei Gaidai, the governor of Luhansk, announced that “the de-occupation of the Luhansk region has already officially started”.
Alexander Kots, a Russian journalist embedded with Russian forces there, revealed there were too few troops available to mount a credible defence against Ukraine's continuing advance.
The latest advance in the east came after the Russian front line in the south partially collapsed, leading to a retreat by at least 15 miles in the southern Kherson region on Tuesday.
A Ukrainian soldier fighting there told The Telegraph that Russian forces were “running away” and abandoning “rusty weapons”.
He said he had seen Russian soldiers shoot one of their own men in the back when he tried to surrender.
It came as Ukraine paraded the first newly mobilised soldier to have been captured fighting in Ukraine. The soldier said he had travelled to the front line with the intention of handing himself in, in a further sign of low morale.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-could-recapture-crimea-as-fleeing-russians-continue-to-flounder/ar-AA12DPY8?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=f111a8e4c6e14e0499238c4a158521d0
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 06:14 AM
Putin signs Ukraine annexation laws amid military setbacks
Russia's President Vladimir Putin has signed the final papers to annex four regions of Ukraine - even as his military suffered further setbacks.
The Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions are "accepted into the Russian Federation" the documents say.
But in two of those areas - Luhansk and Kherson - Ukraine said it has been retaking more villages.
Mr Putin also signed a decree to formalise Russia's seizure of the nuclear power plant in Zaporizhzhia.
Last Friday, the Russian leader held a grand ceremony in the Kremlin, where he signed agreements with the Moscow-installed leaders of the four regions.
The move followed self-proclaimed referendums in the areas, denounced as a "sham" by the West.
But on the ground there appears to be a different reality, with Ukrainian forces making gains in both the south and the east.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63149156
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 06:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWDy54aQBmw
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 06:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3cMR7Vo7L0
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 06:21 AM
Ukraine received almost $9 billion in aid from USAID
Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Russia, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) of the Russian Federation has provided almost 9 billion dollars in aid to Ukraine.
This was reported in the US embassy in Kyiv, Censor.NET informs with reference to Suspilne.
The vast majority of this amount is $8.5 billion in direct budgetary support of the Ukrainian government so that it can respond to critical needs: providing medical care and education, supporting those displaced by the war, ensuring the supply of electricity to schools, hospitals, homes, etc.
Another billion is humanitarian aid, which includes critically needed food, medical care, water, and hygiene products.
The rest of the amount was allocated to support small business and agriculture.
In addition, about 100 million dollars. be dedicated to supporting a free press and countering disinformation. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371890
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 06:22 AM
Head of Bundestag Defense Committee Strack-Zimmermann arrived in Kyiv for two-day visit
The head of the defense committee of the German Bundestag, Marie-Agns Strack-Zimmermann, wants to know which German tanks Ukraine needs and thus increase the pressure on the chancellor of Germany. Negotiations on further arms deliveries are planned.
The German politician announced this on her Twitter, Censor.NET informs.
"We arrived in Kyiv. Being there, getting an impression of the situation and needs, communicating with politicians and the government, in particular with soldiers, is important for me in the current situation. Germany should increase its support," Strack-Zimmermann wrote.
On Thursday morning, Strack-Zimmermann will visit the destroyed Antonov airport. Then she plans to visit various positions of the Ukrainian army and get an idea of the latest events at the front. Negotiations are scheduled for Friday with representatives of the Ukrainian parliament and government, in particular Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov and chief adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky Andrii Yermak. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371882
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 06:23 AM
In addition to Hungary, eighth package of sanctions against Russian Federation was blocked by Cyprus, Malta, Belgium and Greece, - journalist Yozvyak
Several European Union countries, except Hungary, blocked the eighth package of sanctions against Russia.
This was announced on Twitter by journalist Rikard Jozvyak, Censor.NET informs.
He noted that Hungary is usually accused of blocking new sanctions against the Russian Federation. However, this time several other countries took her side. According to him, it is about Cyprus, Malta, Belgium, and Greece.
"Budapest is really learning from the best in Brussels," the journalist emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371873
Skybird
10-06-22, 06:54 AM
Head of Bundestag Defense Committee Strack-Zimmermann arrived in Kyiv for two-day visit
The head of the defense committee of the German Bundestag, Marie-Agns Strack-Zimmermann, wants to know which German tanks Ukraine needs and thus increase the pressure on the chancellor of Germany. Negotiations on further arms deliveries are planned.
The German politician announced this on her Twitter, Censor.NET informs.
"We arrived in Kyiv. Being there, getting an impression of the situation and needs, communicating with politicians and the government, in particular with soldiers, is important for me in the current situation. Germany should increase its support," Strack-Zimmermann wrote.
On Thursday morning, Strack-Zimmermann will visit the destroyed Antonov airport. Then she plans to visit various positions of the Ukrainian army and get an idea of the latest events at the front. Negotiations are scheduled for Friday with representatives of the Ukrainian parliament and government, in particular Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov and chief adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky Andrii Yermak. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371882
She is one of the very few politicians in the Bundestag who talk not as much rubbish about Ukraine war as some others and wants a massive rise in contributions, and now. She also gives the impression of knowing a bit what she is talking about. Needless to say, she seesm to be pretty isolated or bypassed by the "government". One of our few better politician, maybe. But I do not know about her time before the war, so I might be wrong. Politicians are alway suspicious - for principle reasons.
Commander Wallace
10-06-22, 06:55 AM
It's heartening to know that "we" aren't the only idiots in the world. :03:
How very true that statement is. :D
This is another installment in the incredibly sad saga of the Russian invasion of the Ukraine. Unfortunately for Russia, this also comes under the heading of " Lifestyles of the incredibly incompetent and stupid."
Apparently, Russia's mercenary arm, the Wagner Group has been killing Russian soldiers. The Wagner group encompasses many hundreds of former prison inmates. Silly me, I thought they were on the same side. :doh:
Quote: Putin's plan has backfired as the private military force butts heads with the Russian military. The growing conflict resulted in a Wagner fighter gunning down a lieutenant colonel in the Russian army—a deadly episode of “friendly fire” that the Kremlin is said to be trying to sweep under the rug, according to the human rights group
Gulagu.net (https://t.me/NetGulagu/3503?single).
The alleged shooting is not the only recent instance of infighting between Russian troops. Earlier this week, a mass brawl broke out between newly drafted Russian troops and contract soldiers at a military base outside Moscow, Baza (https://t.me/bazabazon/13626) reported.
Nearly two dozen contract soldiers are said to have taken a beating from the draftees and were rescued after locking themselves in a separate room and phoning police for help. The fight reportedly erupted after some of the contract soldiers demanded the newly arrived draftees hand over their mobile phones and gear.
I wonder if Putin can hear the laughing the world over at his stupidity and incompetence and ineptitude. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic that innocent people on both sides are losing their lives.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-dueling-foot-soldiers-now-155912351.htmlWe saw some fighting between Russian units FSB/GRU had to intervene, think it is because of bad treatment from command and ethnical problems Russians are racists so that cause tensions.
The partial mobilization announced by the military and political leadership of Russia is actually "absorbing" small settlements of remote regions of Russia. Conscription is carried out by raids, and almost all men of military age are forcibly taken to military offices. At the same time, the mobilization plan in Moscow St Petersburg is not implemented. The Soviet Union was known for its ethnic operations, they resettled population of mostly other ethnic origin than Moscow St Petersburg
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 12:46 PM
Russia took up to 30 wagons with ammunition from Belarus to Donetsk and Kherson directions, - General Staff
Russia took up to 30 wagons with ammunition from Belarus to the Donetsk and Kherson directions.
This was stated by the Deputy Chief of the Main Operational Department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Brigadier General Oleksii Hromov, Censor.NET informs.
"Since the beginning of October, almost 30 wagons with ammunition for the occupiers have been sent from the Belarusian missile and ammunition storage arsenals to the Donetsk and Kherson directions. In total, since February 24, 26 echelons with ammunition have been sent from the territory of Belarus - almost 250 wagons weighing more than 10,000 tons." - Hromov said.
It is also reported that in Belarusian warehouses, bases and arsenals, a group of Russian officers selects car tires, assemblies, aggregates and other spare parts for the armored vehicles of the Russian army for further shipment to the occupying forces. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371977
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 12:54 PM
Georgian volunteers showed destroyed Russian equipment in village of Davydiv Brid in Kherson region. VIDEO
Georgian volunteers published a video recording of destroyed Russian military equipment near the village of Davydiv Brid in the Kherson region
As Censor.NET reports, on the video you can see the remains of at least five enemy vehicles. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3371986
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 12:56 PM
Russia’s nuclear potential ended in 1997, - Reznikov
It cannot be said that the risk of Russia’s use of tactical nuclear weapons does not exist, but the leaders of the world’s leading countries warned the Russian Federation about the devastating consequences for it. In addition, no one knows in what condition this weapon is now.
As reported by Censor.NET, the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, Oleksii Reznikov, said this in an interview with Forbes-Ukraine, commenting on Russia's use of tactical nuclear weapons.
"It cannot be said that the risk does not exist, but it is much smaller than anything. This is what our foreign partners, the United States, and Great Britain say. Not only that, but we received clear signals from our partners from the White House that they sent quite strong signals to the Kremlin that their use of nuclear weapons would lead to the last devastating consequence for Russia," Reznikov said.
The minister also reminded about the technical condition of Russia's nuclear weapons.
"All its nuclear potential ended in 1997. And when was the last time they tested nuclear weapons? At the end of the 1990s in Kazakhstan at the corresponding test site. Where will they use them? On the front line to destroy not only Ukrainian but also your units? The Black Sea? There are three NATO countries," the head of the defense ministry emphasized.
He also believes that after Mariupol and Bucha and the missile attacks, Ukrainians can no longer be intimidated by nuclear weapons.
"We tell all partners: stop being afraid of Russia. This is not the second army in the world, these are beggars, marauders, and rapists. This is a prison that attacked Ukraine," the Minister of Defense noted. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371995
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 01:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njNqDQE2Z6U
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 01:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cgbbQ-cYSs
Ukrainian Defence Minister Reznikov:
We received information from our Turkish partners that the Russians are trying to order 200,000 bulletproof vests and 500,000 sets of winter clothes through third countries. Turkish partners rejected these orders. https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1578016744995979265
Russian army needs winter clothes :hmmm:
Nukes:
This is what i have asked myself.
When will Putin use them ?
Where will Putin use them ?
What kind(strength) of Nuke will Putin use ?
I hope the war ends with Ukrainian victory and a Russian President on the run.
Markus
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 01:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbb6QOU5Z4M
Commander Wallace
10-06-22, 01:53 PM
^ Just words and more B.S. from Putin.
Jimbuna
10-06-22, 01:54 PM
^ Just words and more B.S. from Putin.
Rgr that :yep:
Nukes:
This is what i have asked myself.
When will Putin use them ?
Where will Putin use them ?
What kind(strength) of Nuke will Putin use ?
I hope the war ends with Ukrainian victory and a Russian President on the run.
MarkusAll blackmail he used that card and got its answer, bet he did not expect'd it and has to come up with a new one.
Not gonna happen.
NEW - Ukraine's Zelensky calls on NATO to launch "preemptive strikes" against Russia to "eliminate the possibility" of a Russian nuclear strike.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1578097733860065281
Markus
Beware, images video are horrible! Can not confirm, but time will tell if Russia using chemical weapons.
It has to be confirmed this is a must.
Sit here wondering what can they do about it-None of the biggest player is interested in a conflict directly between them(US/Nato-Russia)
Markus
les green01
10-06-22, 05:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjhsxq_SRPU
les green01
10-06-22, 05:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDa6CmfBMHA
wouldn't watch this one if offended by bodybags and stuff
Commander Wallace
10-06-22, 09:00 PM
We saw some fighting between Russian units FSB/GRU had to intervene, think it is because of bad treatment from command and ethnical problems Russians are racists so that cause tensions.
The partial mobilization announced by the military and political leadership of Russia is actually "absorbing" small settlements of remote regions of Russia. Conscription is carried out by raids, and almost all men of military age are forcibly taken to military offices. At the same time, the mobilization plan in Moscow St Petersburg is not implemented. The Soviet Union was known for its ethnic operations, they resettled population of mostly other ethnic origin than Moscow St Petersburg
What you said actually explains a lot. Because of the vast size of the Soviet union, er, I mean Russia, various ethnic groups would comprise a lot of Russia's general population and it's military. Let Russians kill each other. It saves the Ukraine the trouble of having to do it.
Actually, I feel bad for the decent Russians that don't want to kill. I'm assuming this is true and this is a big assumption. I feel worse for the Ukraine that has had to endure all sorts of atrocities.
We have a saying in the U.S. Every dog has it's day. The Ukraine's day is now. :yep:
Skybird
10-07-22, 12:48 AM
Students from the Kherson region are to be taken to the Crimean peninsula. This is according to an official decree of the local administration. From October 6 to 21, it has also been ordered that no classes will be held in Kherson.
The children are to officially participate in a "health program" in Crimea. "Educational events, exciting trips and meetings with interesting people await them," the decree says.
Russian cowardly scum, now behaving like Muslim terrorists hiding behind mothers and little children while sniping at their victims.
Wouldn't expect much else from Putrid and his cowardly henchmen!! :k_confused:
Jimbuna
10-07-22, 03:57 AM
The risk of a nuclear "Armageddon" is at its highest level since the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, US President Joe Biden has said.
Mr Biden said Russia's President Vladimir Putin was "not joking" when he spoke of using tactical nuclear weapons after suffering setbacks in Ukraine.
The US was "trying to figure out" Mr Putin's way out of the war, he added.
The US and the EU have previously said Mr Putin's nuclear sabre-rattling should be taken seriously.
However, the US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan last week said that, despite Moscow's nuclear hints, the US had seen no signs that Russia was imminently preparing to use a nuclear weapon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63167947
Jimbuna
10-07-22, 04:00 AM
Two Russian nationals have been detained by US officials after arriving in a small boat on St Lawrence Island in Alaska.
According to the two US senators who represent the state, the men landed at a beach in the village of Gambell and requested asylum in the country.
A Department of Homeland Security (DHS) spokesperson said the duo's asylum claim was currently being processed.
Thousands have fled Russia to avoid being conscripted for war in Ukraine.
Gambell - home to less than 500 permanent residents - sits on the north-western cape of St Lawrence Island. The island is located some 36 miles (56km) from Russia's Chukchi Peninsula, meaning it is closer to Russia than it is to the Alaskan mainland. According to local media, Gambell residents can see the Russian territory of Siberia across the sea.
A local town clerk told the KTUU news station that the men had sailed there from the city of Egvekinot in north-eastern Russia, a journey of about 300 miles (480km) by sea, and have since been flown off the island.
DHS said the men came ashore "in a small boat on Tuesday" and had been flown to Anchorage, Alaska's largest city, for "vetting and screening".
At a news conference on Wednesday, Alaska Governor Mike Dunleavy said their arrival "was a surprise to us".
"We don't anticipate a continual stream of individuals or a flotilla of individuals. We have no indication that's going to happen, so this may be a one-off," he added.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63160469
Catfish
10-07-22, 04:03 AM
Not gonna happen.
NEW - Ukraine's Zelensky calls on NATO to launch "preemptive strikes" against Russia to "eliminate the possibility" of a Russian nuclear strike.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1578097733860065281
Markus
I guess this is faux news, like the recent "proposal" Zelensky is said to have made to germans, to pay 400 Euros each to support Ukraine.
Russian disinformation and diversion campaigns at work, to discredit and sow mistrust between western partners.
Not that the US Fox news, or the german right-wing AfD or the left-wing Die Linke, do not openly have a lot of sympathy for Putin and his politics. Birds of a feather and all that, whatever their alleged political branch they all share a love for dictatorship and fascism.
Jimbuna
10-07-22, 04:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcJV30Fqb9s
I guess this is faux news, like the recent "proposal" Zelensky is said to have made to germans, to pay 400 Euros each to support Ukraine.
Russian disinformation and diversion campaigns at work, to discredit and sow mistrust between western partners.
Not that the US Fox news, or the german right-wing AfD or the left-wing Die Linke, do not openly have a lot of sympathy for Putin and his politics. Birds of a feather and all that, whatever their alleged political branch they all share a love for dictatorship and fascism.
Could be I do not understand Ukrainian so the subtitle translation in the video could be wrong.
Markus
Why are they there and what is their purpose ?
From Danish News Article:
Four Russian vessels - a tug, a tanker and two frigates - are currently anchored in Aalbćk Bay, about 35 kilometres east of Aalbćk and 20 kilometres north of Lćsř. This is confirmed by the Defence Command.
The Russian SAR vessel Nina Sokolova has been anchored in Aalbćk Bay since Sunday, flanked by two frigates. Now another Russian ship has arrived and is close to the Russian SAR ship.
It is not known why the Russian vessels are anchored in international waters.
- They are in a waiting position. That is as close as we can get, the Defence Command said on Thursday morning.
And while the Russian vessels are in a holding pattern, the Danish authorities are keeping a very close eye on them
Two ships cannot be traced
Thetis, one of the Navy's inspection ships, is staying close to the Russian vessels, and Vesselfinder shows the Danish inspection ship circling the Russian vessels, which are visible on Vesselfinder.
The two frigates closer to Lćsř have switched off their AIS systems, which means that they cannot be seen on the surveillance.
A French naval vessel is also in the Kattegat close to the Russian vessels. The French vessel rounded Grenen on Thursday morning, heading for the area about 35 kilometres east of Aalbćk, where the Russian ships are together with the Danish inspection vessel.
- We always keep an eye on what is happening, but it is no more or less than normal, the Defence Command tells TV2 Nord.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
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Commander Wallace
10-07-22, 07:01 AM
Wouldn't expect much else from Putrid and his cowardly henchmen!! :k_confused:
Putrid. :haha: Why didn't I think of that. Tell us what you really think, Reece. :haha:
Two Russian nationals have been detained by US officials after arriving in a small boat on St Lawrence Island in Alaska.
According to the two US senators who represent the state, the men landed at a beach in the village of Gambell and requested asylum in the country.
A Department of Homeland Security (DHS) spokesperson said the duo's asylum claim was currently being processed.
Thousands have fled Russia to avoid being conscripted for war in Ukraine.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63160469
I saw this as well. I good number of officials including in Finland have raised concerns on this mass exodus from Russia. Officials fear that " dissenters " from Russia may in fact be " plants " sent to disrupt whatever host country they end up in.
I would be more inclined to give them ( the Russian people fleeing their country ) the benefit of the doubt and monitor them. Although, monitoring that many people would be a daunting if not impossible task.
It seems the best and brightest of Russia are leaving and the " brain drain " from Soviet Russia could be a great thing in a number of ways. For one, they ( Russian Dissidents ) wouldn't be fighting in a war they don't believe in so there is an obvious reduction in the Russian numbers at the front.
Secondly, I would assume that most Russians are like everyone else in the world and want to be educated and to live a meaningful and secure life and not be at war and / or fighting with everyone. Like everyone else, they want the same for their children. Their education and drive and ambitions could be a good thing.
Understandably, this is made with a good number of assumptions which may or may not be true. However, it may be worth exploring. :yep:
Danish Ekstra Bladet writes:
Expert: Three scenarios left for Putin
The war in Ukraine is likely to have a deadly outcome for the Russian president, says expert
There is no doubt that the past weeks of fighting in Ukraine have given the Ukrainian forces blood on their teeth.
Despite Putin's recent annexation of four Ukrainian regions, several experts tell Dagbladet and Expressen, among others, that Russian forces are forced to dance to the tune of the Ukrainians.
According to the Swedish newspaper Expressen, Putin even has only three scenarios left - and none of them is winning the battle in Ukraine.
Dismissed, killed or suicide
Senior analyst at the Institute for Psychological Defence in Sweden Per Enerud sees no bright future for the Russian president.
According to him, there is a high probability that the president will not come out of the war alive.
- Either he will be deposed, killed or commit suicide, Enerud tells the newspaper.
Russia expert at the Institute for Foreign Policy in Sweden Hugo von Essen also does not see much chance for Russia.
- Putin will be forced to abandon Ukraine if the Russian army collapses, is defeated or forced out of the country, says Hugo von Essen.
The meat grinder
President Putin has just mobilised 300,000 Russian troops, but experts don't think that will give Russia much chance of winning either.
- The new forces won't get much training or weapons before they are sent to the 'meat grinder', says Palle Ydstebř, a colonel lieutenant at the Norwegian Defence College, to the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet.
Despite the many recent defeats, Putin still seems to have the support of the Russian people.
According to the independent Russian Analysis Centre, as many as 77% of the population support the president, while 21% are against him.
And if Russia ends up being chased out of Ukraine, even that will not make Putin admit defeat to the Russian people.
According to Ydstebř, the Ukrainians stop fighting at the border with Russia, and so Putin will announce through the state-controlled media that Russia has succeeded in defending its borders against the West.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Markus
Aktungbby
10-07-22, 11:31 AM
The world needs to stop with this Woke sentiment that somehow this is the work of one crazy maniac (Putin) and all those poor Russians suffer under his regime. The vast majority of Russians support their leader and the war on Ukraine.
The only solution to this conflict is the complete breakup of Russia. Divide the land between semi-reliable Chinese interests, Saudi partners and create a Greater European Union. I think countries like Germany, Poland and Ukraine should be given large tracts of Russian land and access to a free Russian labor force to compensate for the burdens placed on these nations.
:hmmm:...in the 1940's that concept was called ''lebensraum"!:yeah: P'raps we could all sing 'Zeig der ShadyBill Heil'!https://subsim.com/radioroom/image.php?u=433994&dateline=1664826810:Kaleun_Salute::O::arrgh!:
Skybird
10-07-22, 12:45 PM
According to the European Centre for Medium-termed Weather Forecast ECMWF, this coming winter will become extraordinarily cold in Europe, due to the weather phenomenon La Nina.
Well...
For gas consumers, and all consumers, and the fincial amrkets, and state budgets and inflation fighters, bad news.
For the Ukraine maybe good news: in the past two years, their winters I read were mild and the ground did not freeze, but if it freezes this time, this will allow them to press on their tank operations into winter. What is decisive, I assume at least, is whether there will be a quick progression from conditions as they are now into fropozen groudn cidnitoons, or if these two pohases are separated by a long inteirm pohase of muddy conditi0ns that is lon enpough to interrupot the offensive later this year. The US had told Ukraine it urgently need to gain more reconquests before winter comes, assuming that the offensive in a mild winter would completely bog down in mud.
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Der Tagesspiegel writes:
The former commander-in-chief of U.S. land forces in Europe (U.S. Army Europe), Ben Hodges, has again referred to the possible recapture of Ukrainian troops. "I predict that the Ukrainians will push the Russians back to the Feb. 23 line by the end of the year," Hodges told U.S. broadcaster Channel-4, adding that includes recapturing the Crimean peninsula, which was annexed in 2014.
He said Russian troops were weakening with each passing week, while Ukrainian troops tended to grow stronger. Ben Hodges was commander-in-chief of U.S. land forces in Europe between 2014 and 2017.
The operational update regarding the #russian_invasion on 18.00, on October 7, 2022.
Glory to Ukraine! The two hundred-twenty-sixth (226) day of the heroic resistance of the Ukrainian people to a russian military large-scale invasion continues.
The enemy is trying to hold the temporarily captured territories, is concentrating its efforts on attempts to disrupt the active actions of the Defence Forces in certain directions, and at the same time is conducting offensive actions in the Bakhmut and Avdiyivka directions.
The enemy is shelling the positions of our troops along the contact line, carrying out engineering equipment of defensive lines and positions in certain directions and conducting aerial reconnaissance. Strikes civilian infrastructure and civilian homes, violating international humanitarian law, laws and customs of war.
There remains the threat of air and missile strikes on the entire territory of Ukraine. During the day, the occupiers launched 2 rocket and 5 air strikes, launched more than 10 MLRS attacks.
Objects and civilian population of more than 10 settlements were damaged by enemy strikes. Among them - Ridkodub, Hulyaipilske, Novoandriyivka, Zaporizhzhya, Mykolayiv, Slavhorod.
The enemy used 4 Iranian-made Shahed-136 unmanned aerial vehicles to strike the populated areas of Zaporizhzhya and Mykolayiv.
The situation in the Volyn and Polissya directions has not changed significantly.
In other directions, the russian occupiers carried out shelling:
in the Siversky direction - from mortars and barrel artillery, in the areas of Senkivka and Yasna Polyana settlements of Chernihiv oblast, as well as Seredyna Buda, Fotovнzh, Boyaro-Lezhachi, Ryzhivka, Holyshivske, Kiyanytsia, Myropillya, Mezenivka and Slavhorod of Sumy oblast;
in the Slobozhanskyi direction - from tanks, mortars, barrel and jet artillery, in the areas of Basove, Hlyboke, Vysoka Yaruga, Krasne, Strilecha, Starytsa, Hatyshche, Vovchansk, Volokhivka and Dvorichna settlements;
in the Kramatorsk direction - from mortars, barrel and jet artillery, in the areas of Terny, Raihorodok, Spirne, Bilohorivka, Verkhnokamianske, Serebryanka, Hryhorivka, Torske, Ivanivka and Hrekivka settlements;
in the direction of Bakhmut, the enemy shelled the areas of Bilohorivka, Yakovlivka, Soledar, Bakhmut, Bakhmutske, Ivanhrad, Opytne, Mayorsk, Vyimka, Rozdolivka, Vesele, Zaitseve and Odradivka settlements;
in the Avdiyivka direction, the enemy inflicted fire damage in the areas of the settlements of Avdiyivka, Kamianka, Novobakhmutivka, Maryinka, Krasnohorivka, Vodyane, Pervomaiske and Novomykhailivka.
On the Novopavlivskyi and Zaporizhzhya directions, the infrastructure in the districts of Novoukrainka, Pavlivka, Neskuchne, Chervone, Hulyaipole and Novopole was damaged by enemy shelling.
In the South Buh direction, more than twenty settlements near the contact line were affected by fire.
Units of the Defence Forces of Ukraine repelled enemy attacks in the areas of Vyimka, Bakhmutske, Krasna Hora, Bakhmut, Mayorsk, Andriyivka, Pervomaiske, Vesele, Kamianka, Pobyeda, Nevelske, Novomykhailivka, and Ternovy Pody.
The russian occupation authorities continue to put pressure on the citizens of Ukraine who remained in the temporarily occupied territory of the Donetsk oblast. According to available information, in some areas of the city of Horlivka, representatives of "security structures" intimidate local residents who did not support the joining of the temporarily occupied region to the russian federation in an illegal referendum. Men who avoid mobilization continue to be identified, detained and forcibly sent to units of the 1st Army Corps to replace casualties.
According to the available information, there are significant problems with the material support of the mobilization measures carried out by the military leadership of the russian federation. Thus, at the beginning of October, of the 8,000 demobilized persons staying at the base of the Novosibirsk Higher Command School, no more than half were provided with military uniforms. In addition, only field uniforms and shoes are issued to the specified personnel. The rest of the equipment must be bought at your own expense or try to get it from the local authorities as humanitarian aid. The issue of providing the mobilized with helmets and body armor remains problematic.
The russian occupiers continue to suffer losses in the south of our country. Thus, in the area of Kakhovka, Kherson oblast, the destruction of personnel and military equipment, including air defence equipment, has been confirmed. Also, as a result of effective fire damage to the area of the enemy's concentration near the village of Borozenske, on October 5 of this year, the losses of the enemy amounted to 10 people killed and about 20 wounded.
Aviation of the Defence Forces carried out 11 strikes during the day. It was confirmed that 8 places of concentration of weapons and military equipment, as well as 3 anti-aircraft missile systems of the enemy were destroyed. In addition, our air defence units shot down two UAVs and two enemy helicopters.
Rocket troops and artillery hit one area of concentration of manpower, weapons and military equipment, a pontoon crossing and a WED complex in a day.
We believe in the Armed Forces! Together we will win! Glory to Ukraine!
https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid0N386fDDDeS93qCwrs9UCcz1YdJzLGPgoBUUoyrfqsNNK fYsn1eVLYubfogVpHYgsl?__cft__[0]=AZWeIX4TB3njv_9K-4ell9gyqWPfyI1yY2TXy3oR4RWM66h1X7iPlP2c5d1gfSqE2cn 0gbtWyIDA1vtUYPmR-ucYJYJGVkXrKN1to2bXns-XK71p9NsRpIoJpqkU8liyVLPwWTJc4JD8Qcs_gqW1NsQ0xlHXV 3Q-jxVeilr5nKDXsVaOaQCVdUigJUra4ItbzQev5kj0D6uPu66n2h pViU1n&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R
Key figures including Wagner Group’s Yevgeny Prigozhin are using military defeats to undermine defence chief Sergei Shoigu
by Pjotr Sauer and Andrew Roth in Moscow
Fri 7 Oct 2022 10.20 BST
Last modified on Fri 7 Oct 2022 19.12 BST
Friends, rivals and enemies took their seats in the Grand Kremlin Palace as Vladimir Putin gathered the country’s elite to formalise Russia’s illegal annexation of four occupied regions in Ukraine.
The ceremony was meant to portray strength and unity, but within 24 hours had been overshadowed by Russia’s failures on the battlefield. These losses, which continued into this week on the southern and eastern fronts in Ukraine, have led to a major, unprecedented rupture within the ruling class as the Kremlin seeks scapegoats for a series of military embarrassments.
The following account is based on 15 interviews with former government and defence officials, members of the military, political observers, journalists, opposition members, and an inmate at a prison where Wagner founder Yevgeny Prigozhin recruited soldiers to join his mercenary group in Ukraine. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/07/intense-dread-and-infighting-among-russian-elites-as-putins-war-falters
Skybird
10-07-22, 03:19 PM
Der Tagesspiegel writes:
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According to a report in the Financial Times, there has recently been an increase in failures of the "Starlink" satellites of the SpaceX company in Ukraine. These satellites have been providing Internet access in Ukraine for many months and also support Ukrainian troops in war planning.
According to an officer of the Ukrainian troops, the failures have already resulted in "catastrophic" communication losses. Experts announce devastating consequences in case of further restriction.
The Tagesspiegel app Current news, background information and analyses directly to your smartphone. Plus the digital newspaper. Download it here for free.
Military officials in Ukraine fear a secret agreement between SpaceX CEO Elon Musk and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Musk already caused a stir earlier this week when he launched polls on Twitter about possible "peace plans" for Ukraine. The proposals showed strong similarities to the Kremlin's demands.
The Ukrainian side expressed indignation at the tweets and also responded via the short message service. "The only result is that no Ukrainian will ever buy your ****ing Tesla crap," outgoing Ukrainian Ambassador to Germany Andrey Melnyk wrote, "**** off is my diplomatic response to you."
Ukrainian President Volodomyr Selenskyj also responded with a sarcastic tweet in Elon Musk's direction.
The weekly newspaper "The Economist" now suspects that Vladimir Putin may persuade Musk to completely withdraw access to "Starlink" for Ukraine. He has already denied a request for access from the annexed Crimean peninsula, according to Ukrainian sources.
Outages often occur during counter-offensives
What is striking about the outages in Ukraine is that they usually occurred at the same time as conquests by Ukrainian troops, thus weakening counteroffensives. The failures were reported from Kherson, Zaporizhzhya, Kharkiv, and Donetsk and Luhansk. Ukraine recently made strong advances in these same regions.
Several Ukrainian soldiers confirmed the sudden satellite outage during ongoing fighting. Western military officials also confirmed outages but would not elaborate on their claims.
The coordinator of an organization that had donated "Starlink" satellites to Ukraine indicated that SpaceX was simply trying to prevent possible misuse. "For me it is absolutely clear that this is done by representatives of Starlink to prevent the use of their technology by the Russian occupation forces," he told the Financial Times.
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If its true that Musk collaborates with the Kremlin, he must, by any means, be taken care of. Such action to drive a dagger into the Ukrainians' back cannot be tolerated, at no cost.
Ostfriese
10-07-22, 03:32 PM
Danish Ekstra Bladet writes:
[...]- Either he will be deposed, killed or commit suicide, Enerud tells the newspaper.[...]
Markus
Considering that the most vocal opposition to Putin in Russia currently seems to be the radical pro-war faction (i.e. the group that thinks the Russian army should be even more brutal and Russia as a whole should be more aggressive) this actually worries me.
Getting rid of Putin might be a way out, but certainly not if he is replaced by someone even worse.
Der Tagesspiegel writes:
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According to a report in the Financial Times, there has recently been an increase in failures of the "Starlink" satellites of the SpaceX company in Ukraine. These satellites have been providing Internet access in Ukraine for many months and also support Ukrainian troops in war planning.
According to an officer of the Ukrainian troops, the failures have already resulted in "catastrophic" communication losses. Experts announce devastating consequences in case of further restriction.
The Tagesspiegel app Current news, background information and analyses directly to your smartphone. Plus the digital newspaper. Download it here for free.
Military officials in Ukraine fear a secret agreement between SpaceX CEO Elon Musk and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Musk already caused a stir earlier this week when he launched polls on Twitter about possible "peace plans" for Ukraine. The proposals showed strong similarities to the Kremlin's demands.
The Ukrainian side expressed indignation at the tweets and also responded via the short message service. "The only result is that no Ukrainian will ever buy your ****ing Tesla crap," outgoing Ukrainian Ambassador to Germany Andrey Melnyk wrote, "**** off is my diplomatic response to you."
Ukrainian President Volodomyr Selenskyj also responded with a sarcastic tweet in Elon Musk's direction.
The weekly newspaper "The Economist" now suspects that Vladimir Putin may persuade Musk to completely withdraw access to "Starlink" for Ukraine. He has already denied a request for access from the annexed Crimean peninsula, according to Ukrainian sources.
Outages often occur during counter-offensives
What is striking about the outages in Ukraine is that they usually occurred at the same time as conquests by Ukrainian troops, thus weakening counteroffensives. The failures were reported from Kherson, Zaporizhzhya, Kharkiv, and Donetsk and Luhansk. Ukraine recently made strong advances in these same regions.
Several Ukrainian soldiers confirmed the sudden satellite outage during ongoing fighting. Western military officials also confirmed outages but would not elaborate on their claims.
The coordinator of an organization that had donated "Starlink" satellites to Ukraine indicated that SpaceX was simply trying to prevent possible misuse. "For me it is absolutely clear that this is done by representatives of Starlink to prevent the use of their technology by the Russian occupation forces," he told the Financial Times.
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If its true that Musk collaborates with the Kremlin, he must, by any means, be taken care of. Such action to drive a dagger into the Ukrainians' back cannot be tolerated, at no cost.The company mentioned they intended to limit the coverage area in the occupied territory's in order to restrict usage by the Russians, this is just a slight problem I think will be fixed as temporary lines are drawn out.
Considering that the most vocal opposition to Putin in Russia currently seems to be the radical pro-war faction (i.e. the group that thinks the Russian army should be even more brutal and Russia as a whole should be more aggressive) this actually worries me.
Getting rid of Putin might be a way out, but certainly not if he is replaced by someone even worse.His cohorts of hardliners maybe are worse you never know what you get instead not seen a coup or power struggle bring any enlighten leaders in my life.
Shady Bill
10-07-22, 09:04 PM
2 Russian men infiltrated Alaska via boat from Siberia, and have requested asylum in the United States.
2 Russian men infiltrated Alaska via boat from Siberia, and have requested asylum in the United States.
Send them back. They don't qualify for asylum.
An asylum claimant must demonstrate persecution based on one of the five protected grounds (race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion).
fithah4
10-08-22, 12:10 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUTIN
First reporting at 6am Ukraine time attack on bridge
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/explosion-rocks-russias-prized-kerch-strait-bridge-leading-to-crimea
Both spans of rail and highway damaged
Agree, they should go to a POW type camp till the war is over then returned. :hmmm:
Buddahaid
10-08-22, 12:34 AM
Agree, they should go to a POW type camp till the war is over then returned. :hmmm:
When did war get declared between Russia and the US?
Not saying that but what if many others go to the US just to escape military service? And lets not forget they could be Russian spies or terrorists. :hmmm:
Btw I didn't say concentration camp!
Skybird
10-08-22, 04:41 AM
Any new son how serious the damage on the Kerch bridge is? I do not know how it is constructed, it must hold a rail track and at least one car traffic lane, one such car lane has collapsed, there are pics of it lying in the water, but is there a second one, and what is about the rail track? Any support pipes attached to the construction that could be ripped off, too? :D
How long to repair? I do not take it from the images that the bridge is infintely down.
Who is behind the partial destruction of Kerth Bridge ?
Is it Russian who is fighting Putin ?
Is it Ukrainian partisans ?
Is it UA special forces ?
Markus
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 05:27 AM
The bridge has collapsed.
https://i.postimg.cc/PxCRM8YF/241217b4-89df-41a2-8b44-c22b7035e614.jpg (https://postimg.cc/xJS5f8sK)
The road section of the only crossing from occupied Crimea collapses after an explosion.
The blast on the road bridge led to oil tankers on the rail section catching fire.
The bridge, built on the orders of Vladimir Putin, is a key link to move military equipment into Ukraine.
Ukrainian president adviser Mykhailo Podolyak described the explosion as "the beginning"
"Everything illegal must be destroyed, everything stolen must be returned to Ukraine," he says.
Russia's president has been briefed about the explosion and has ordered a government inquiry, a Kremlin spokesman says.
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 05:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mORLGcQH1g
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 05:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXj_wuABosQ
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 05:53 AM
Undermining of Kerch bridge is special operation of SSU - Source
The undermining of the illegally built bridge across the Kerch Strait was a special operation of the Security Service of Ukraine.
As Censor.NET informs, this was reported to the Interfax-Ukraine agency by a source in the law enforcement agencies of Ukraine.
"The blowing up of the Crimean bridge is a special operation of the SSU," the interlocutor of the agency said on Saturday.
At the same time, the SSU has not yet officially commented on its participation in these events. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372323
Ostfriese
10-08-22, 05:55 AM
The bridge has collapsed.
https://i.postimg.cc/PxCRM8YF/241217b4-89df-41a2-8b44-c22b7035e614.jpg (https://postimg.cc/xJS5f8sK)
The road section of the only crossing from occupied Crimea collapses after an explosion.
It's actually just one half of the road, the second half is still standing (you can even see that in the picture).
However, it's unclear how stable the second half is, and it wouldn't be surprising if it sufferd enough structural damage to be unusuable for traffic. Same goes for the adjacent segments.
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 05:57 AM
Eighth package of EU sanctions does not prevent Russia from making money from export of metal products, - Mass media
As part of the fourth package of sanctions, the European Union has banned the import of steel products from Russia - rolled products and pipes - from April 1, 2022. The eighth package of sanctions allegedly expands previously introduced restrictions. However, after the analysis, it becomes clear that the introduced sanctions will have no effect on the export of Russian metal products to the EU.
This is reported by HMC Center, Censor.NET informs.
"Taking into account the eighth package of sanctions and previously introduced restrictions, ferrous metals and products made from them have been banned, while the restrictions do not apply to cast iron and ferroalloys. In addition, new restrictions on the import of steel come into force on September 30, 2023, and on certain steel semi-finished products - on April 1, and even on October 1, 2024," the publication writes.
The MMC Center explains: there are rolling mills in the EU (especially of Russian companies) that work on imported semi-finished products. That's why the European rolling mills spoke first of all against the ban on the import of slabs from Russia - and, judging by everything, they were heard.
"Although the sanctions directly prohibit the import of steel products produced in third countries from Russian steel, the control mechanism is unclear and its potential effectiveness is questionable. In addition, Russia will be able to increase the export of pig iron, which is not subject to sanctions. That is, Russian cast iron will be able to be exported both to EU countries and to Turkey, China, and other countries that will be able to supply products made from Russian cast iron to the EU. Moreover, the growth of exports of Russian iron is possible under any scenario," the publication summarizes.
As you know, the European Commission initiated the expansion of sanctions against the import of Russian metallurgy. However, a group of European rolling mills, which called itself the EU Reroller Forum, disagreed with the decision.
As it turned out later, the EU Reroller Forum includes enterprises that are directly or indirectly related to Russia - for example, the Marcegaglia company has a metallurgical plant in the city of Vladimir, and NBH is generally a joint venture of the Russian NLMK and the Agency for Financial Management investments of the Belgian region of Wallonia. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372308
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 06:04 AM
Moment of explosion on Crimean bridge. VIDEO Source: https://censor.net/en/v3372295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-juPsPG6FE
I can't be the only one speculating in what kind of response Putin will come up with.
Markus
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 06:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoKG5KsIWSc
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 06:11 AM
Total combat losses of Russia since beginning of war - about 62,060 people, 266 planes, 234 helicopters, 2,472 tanks, 1,459 artillery systems, 5,111 armored vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS
The Russian invaders, who invaded the territory of Ukraine, continue to suffer losses. As of the morning of October 8, the loss of enemy personnel are approximately 62,060.
This was reported in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Censor.NET informs.
The total combat losses of the enemy from 24/02 to 08/10 are approximately:
personnel - about 62,060 (+380) people were eliminated,
tanks - 2472 (+6) units,
armored combat vehicles - 5111 (+18) units,
artillery systems - 1459 (+4) units,
MLRS - 345 (+1) units,
air defense equipment - 180 (+3) units,
aircraft - 266 (+0) units,
helicopters - 234 (+1) units,
UAVs of operational-tactical level - 1079 (+12),
cruise missiles - 246 (+0),
ships/boats -15 (+0) units,
automotive equipment and tank trucks - 3875 (+13) units,
special equipment - 136 (+1).
"The enemy suffered the greatest losses in the Donetsk, Bakhmut, and Kramatorsk directions," the General Staff said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372300
Danish Ekstra Bladet writes:
Explosives expert guesses missile caused Crimean bridge explosion
Hundreds of kilos of explosives and either a ship, truck or missile used for blast, chemist says
Flames are rising from the Crimean bridge, which is strategically important for the Russians, and parts of the bridge have collapsed into the sea.
It would have taken a very violent explosion to cause the destruction, and it could have been done in one of three ways, says Peter Hald, head of security at Aarhus University. He is a trained chemist and engineering officer.
- It's a huge explosion. It's a fireball wider than a four-lane motorway, so it's many hundreds of kilos of explosives that have been used, he says.
- It could have been delivered by a boat, by a truck or by a larger missile. That's one of the three ways it's realistic to have brought that much explosive forward, he says.
After reviewing images of the explosion on the bridge, Peter Hald's best guess is that a missile was used to detonate it.
There is not a line in the air in any of the pictures he has seen to indicate that it was a missile. But there are 'an incredible number of white sparks' in the air after the bombing, which the chemist says could be fuel residue.
In videos where the speed is drastically reduced, Peter Hald says it can look as if there is a light coming from the water side towards the bridge and then an explosion. But it's very uncertain.
Russia's anti-terror authorities, on the other hand, have said it happened when a car bomb exploded, igniting up to seven tankers taking trains to Crimea.
And that is plausible, judging by the size of the explosion, the engineer officer says.
- Where it's less plausible is that the Russians know it's an important bridge, and they've presumably taken good care of it.
- So either it is the most comfortable explanation, or the - for the Russians - unpleasant explanation is that their security of the bridge has failed completely, says Peter Hald.
He estimates that it is not at all easy to blow up a bridge like this. It is very large and probably solidly built.
- Therefore, it would take many hundreds of kilograms or even tons to damage it, says Peter Hald.
It is not unusual for ballistic missiles to have warheads with hundreds of kilograms of explosives. And according to Peter Hald, there are also missiles with several tonnes of explosives.
Crimea is a Ukrainian peninsula that has been annexed by Russia since 2014.
The peninsula and its 19-kilometre bridge are important to Russia in getting supplies such as ammunition and fuel to its warring forces in southern Ukraine.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Markus
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 06:28 AM
Tell that 'reliable source' that four posts up proves it was a truck.
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 06:30 AM
Russian occupiers will limit sale of cereals, flour and sugar in Crimea
The occupying authorities of Crimea limited the sale of grocery products to 3 kilograms in one hand.
As Censor.NET informs, Russian mass media reported this on Telegram.
As noted, on the Crimean peninsula, the sale of grocery products is limited - a maximum of 3 kilograms in one hand.
According to Iryna Mezavtsova, Deputy Minister of Industrial Policy of Crimea, this was done to avoid artificial excitement.
The ministry clarified that food stocks in Crimea will last for 55 days. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372312
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 06:56 AM
John Simpson: Zelensky strikes all the right notes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63171679
A good read imho.
Tell that 'reliable source' that four posts up proves it was a truck.
The bridge has been partial demolished, this is a fact -With what ? Truck, ship or missiles. Only the Ukrainian knows. Maybe we will know later what it was.
For me the question is now-how will Putin react on this.
Markus
Agree, they should go to a POW type camp till the war is over then returned. :hmmm:
They will probably go into ICE custody (ie: jail or other detention facility), and they should remain there until they are either repatriated back to Russia or another country agrees to take them in.
Skybird
10-08-22, 08:00 AM
This is a photo of that bridge.
https://asc-images.forward-publishing.io/2022/10/08/b19e05fd-9a05-4eae-809f-725e1c124145.jpeg?w=1024&auto=format
You can see that there are two bridges, on eh right for the railtrack, on the left for car traffic. The car bridge has two lanes, one for each direction. The photo of the collapse dbridge however shows only one car lane having dropped into the water, the other seems to be intact, at least on that photo.
There could however invisible damage to the structure of the remaining lane, of course, we do not know. Also, we do not know whether trains still could roll on the rail bridge.
If possible, a follow on strike might be the way to go. Preferrably on the same location where the structure already must be weakened. Easier said than done, probaaly, else they would not have struck via sabotage-truck bomb, but missile or air strike earlier in the war.
Tell that 'reliable source' that four posts up proves it was a truck.
Didn't look to me like it originated from a truck but there was certainly one close to the point of impact.
Skybird
10-08-22, 08:31 AM
This video shows dashcam footage of a car approaching the incident site on the "undamaged" car traffic lane, and one cna see that on this lane there is also massive damage, the surface is clearly bent down and in no way looks as if it allows any wheeled transportation, so currently indeed both car trafffic lanes seem to be unpassable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnleV-l5r4Q
At 00:01:33ff there is a hissing sound before the explosion. Missile incoming? Sound travels slower than light, it cannot be the airblast and shockwave preceeding the sights of the explosion. So the 1 million coins question is: what is that hissing sound?
And the video in this,. share don many channels, shows apparent extensive damage to the railtrack as well, the reporter says (in German) the rail bridge has suffered severe damage, too.
https://www.welt.de/videos/video241487153/Ukraine-Krieg-Explosion-und-Feuer-auf-Krim-Bruecke.html
We can expect massive retaliation against civilian targets and critical infrastructure in the Ukraine now. The barbars will run amok.
Skybird
10-08-22, 08:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoKG5KsIWSc
Is that a 2 or 3 star hotel by Russian standards?
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1578662916844179456
Edit
Take a look at the video in this status. Never seen the explosion from that angle.
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1578668551170592769
End edit
Markus
Skybird
10-08-22, 08:57 AM
Ukraine reports growing problems and in parts "catastrophic failure" of Starlink connections along the frontlines, "Handelsblatt" reports. These are extrneely dangeorus for the Ukrainian offensiove.
Either it is Russian hacking, and Starlink must be a top priority for them, no doubt on that, or it is Elon Musk pushing the buttons. Several articles I read describe that the Starlink satellites are quite well protected against hacking. Musk's idiotic tweets and Russia-friendly "plans" for a "peace deal" certainly put him on the list of suspects: top rank on mine, at least, even before the Russians. For him, in the end his own interests come first, and his communcational manipulation is as intense as always.
Ostfriese
10-08-22, 09:01 AM
At 00:01:33ff there is a hissing sound before the explosion. Missile incoming? Sound travels slower than light, it cannot be the airblast and shockwave preceeding the sights of the explosion. So the 1 million coins question is: what is that hissing sound?
This part is definitely not from today, because the video shows bright daylight, but the bridge was clearly hit in the dark.
Ostfriese
10-08-22, 09:02 AM
Edit
Take a look at the video in this status. Never seen the explosion from that angle.
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1578668551170592769
End edit
Markus
Again: this video shows an explosion in broad daylight, but the explosion definitely took place during the early morning hours when it was dark.
I can't be the only one speculating in what kind of response Putin will come up with.
MarkusThere is no speculation Putin will attack civilians, this is his only reaction to Ukraine military action.
This is a photo of that bridge.
https://asc-images.forward-publishing.io/2022/10/08/b19e05fd-9a05-4eae-809f-725e1c124145.jpeg?w=1024&auto=format
You can see that there are two bridges, on eh right for the railtrack, on the left for car traffic. The car bridge has two lanes, one for each direction. The photo of the collapse dbridge however shows only one car lane having dropped into the water, the other seems to be intact, at least on that photo.
There could however invisible damage to the structure of the remaining lane, of course, we do not know. Also, we do not know whether trains still could roll on the rail bridge.
If possible, a follow on strike might be the way to go. Preferrably on the same location where the structure already must be weakened. Easier said than done, probaaly, else they would not have struck via sabotage-truck bomb, but missile or air strike earlier in the war.The damage to the rail track is the most important Russian army rely on rail supply and via rail you can send bigger volumes quickly near fronts.
Commander Wallace
10-08-22, 12:03 PM
There is no speculation Putin will attack civilians, this is his only reaction to Ukraine military action.
That's the only thing " putrid " and his forces are capable of. Killing unarmed citizens.
@ Reece's term. :yep:
The bridge across the Kerch Strait, from Russia to Crimea rendered inoperative by an explosion, has all the indications of a special operation, carried out by a small group of well-trained commandos. How exactly, we don't know, but you can see the effect: part of the bridge collapsed, this was not a small explosion. So you have to be able to deal with large charges of explosives. That alone points to a commando operation. Doing something like that when the Russians know that the bridge is a possible target, that takes skill. This bridge is one of the critical points in Russia's supply lines to Crimea and Kherson. If you can block or damage it, it has a big effect.
At least, it makes the Russians dependent for their logistics on other routes, which pass through occupied territory in southern Ukraine and are therefore also vulnerable. This is a deliberate Ukrainian campaign to attack supply lines deep into Russian territory. Logistics are expensive and vulnerable, Russian forces in Ukraine need a lot, hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel per day alone. Plus food, supplies and spare parts. Russia has multiple routes to deliver everything, but this is an important one. Thus, Ukraine is making the Russians wingless. In Russia, there is increasing open criticism of the General Staff and the Defense Ministry. Even now, bloggers and propagandists on television are already calling for further escalation of fighting in Ukraine, with heavier weapons. They are using this attack to underscore their point. I have yet to see what comes of that. It could be that the Russians will attack targets that have strategic or symbolic value to the Ukrainians.
There is no speculation Putin will attack civilians, this is his only reaction to Ukraine military action.
I can't find it here in our thread-'cause some of you wrote that an attack on Crimea or Kerth bridge would most likely be retaliated with nukes.
Again I hope that this person is wrong and you are correct they will use conventional weapons against civilians.
Markus
I can't find it here in our thread-'cause some of you wrote that an attack on Crimea or Kerth bridge would most likely be retaliated with nukes.
Again I hope that this person is wrong and you are correct they will use conventional weapons against civilians.
MarkusI wrote that there were already big attacks in Crimea and also in Russia itself in regard with the nuclear blackmail by Putin. Putin does not need an excuse for using nukes because Ukraine already attacked Russia in the past.
I wrote that there were already big attacks in Crimea and also in Russia itself in regard with the nuclear blackmail by Putin. Putin does not need an excuse for using nukes because Ukraine already attacked Russia in the past.
I came to think of Poker-Where one player pay to see the other players hand-Can't remember what they call it. Sooner or later Putin has to show his hands of card.
Markus
Kerch Bridge on fire!
Your defence is terrified, na na na na na na https://twitter.com/saintjavelin/status/1578728315044892672
Upgrade LOL https://twitter.com/Fella_IA_X25/status/1578735978847825920
I have a few fb-friends who is more or less pro-Putin supporter.
I haven't heard or read anything from them today...Usually they always have an excuse Haven't seen any of this today.
Markus
Skybird
10-08-22, 01:30 PM
Crimea bridge "reopened". One of the car traffic lanes, apparently.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-08/russian-bridge-to-crimea-closed-after-explosion-hits-fuel-train
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-key-bridge-linking-russia-to-crimea-partially-destroyed-after-explosion-12715241
Whatever struck the bridge earlier - more of that, please!
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 01:37 PM
Hospitals in occupied Kherson region cannot cope with flow of wounded Russians, - General Staff
The General Staff of AFU released operational information on number of wounded Russian occupants and their placement in medical institutions of temporarily occupied territories.
As informs Censor.NЕТ, it was reported in official General Staff Facebook.
The report states: "The enemy continues to suffer losses. Local hospitals in the temporarily occupied areas of Kherson region cannot cope with the flow of wounded occupants.
It was confirmed that up to thirty wounded invaders arrived to the children's clinical hospital in Lysychansk, Luhansk region. Additional medical staff has been sent to the said institution". Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372388
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 01:41 PM
"Most protected in world": since beginning of full-scale war, Russian authorities assured of "impossibility" of attack on Crimean bridge. PHOTOS
From the beginning of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the Russian authorities assured about the impossibility of an attack on the Crimean bridge. These assurances were widely reproduced in the Russian propaganda media.
This is reported by Censor.NET.
In response to statements about possible plans of Ukrainian troops to attack the Crimean bridge, the Russian authorities stated that this was impossible due to the supposedly reliable protection of the object. There were even claims that the Crimean bridge was supposedly "the most protected bridge in the world."
Thus, the puppet of the Kremlin in the occupied Crimea, Serhii Aksyonov, said on May 7 that "any attempts to harm the Crimean bridge will be stopped, and the control of the bridge will be carried out around the clock."
On June 16, 2022, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, Sergey Lavrov, assured that the Russian army is taking note of all threats regarding the attack on the Crimean bridge and all plans in this regard will fail. On the same day, the press secretary of the Russian president, Dmytro Peskov, said: "The security of Crimea is guaranteed by those preventive measures and those additional measures that are currently being taken by our military." Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372370
Russian soldiers started fleeing from Crimea in cars to Berdyansk, from where they then leave for the territory of Russia, - Mayor of Melitopol, Ivan Fedorov. "We see panic among the occupiers. A significant movement from the Crimean side to Berdyansk began. Because now the only route by which you can leave the temporarily occupied territory is through Melitopol, Berdyansk, Mariupol, and then to the territory of the Russian Federation. Today, this route is busy, a large number of cars have left Crimea and are going to the Russian Federation," Fedorov said. https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1578817723257102337
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 02:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAdW6K1iTmg
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 02:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOpHONga6Fc
Jimbuna
10-08-22, 02:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdWQgoA3ugk
Crimea bridge "reopened". One of the car traffic lanes, apparently.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-08/russian-bridge-to-crimea-closed-after-explosion-hits-fuel-train
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-key-bridge-linking-russia-to-crimea-partially-destroyed-after-explosion-12715241
Whatever struck the bridge earlier - more of that, please!Current status of the Crimean Bridge - Russian authorities ran a 15 car test train across the damaged section of the rail span. A slightly sketchy crossing has been created along the part of the road span only partially damaged by the explosion. Current reports state that the road span is handling about 20 cars per hour. Per Russian state media, the current capacity of the damaged Crimean Bridge road span in 3.5 tonnes https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1578816745485529088
The truck version becomes more and more less plausible
As Denys says in the video-Truck goes through an x-ray before they drive onto the bridge. this is a safety thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhe0xpk_qTw&list=RDCMUCpr-NNORb2UQYDD3k-w-OFg&start_radio=1
Markus
Skybird
10-08-22, 04:59 PM
This analysis goes far beyond what the media usually say about the likelihood of nuclear war. Recommended read! Not just profane bluffing but psychological automatisms is the name of the game, and that is what makes it so dangerous. AdG writes:
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How likely is a nuclear war in Europe?
Putin has indirectly threatened to use nuclear weapons. How credible is this declaration of war? Let's play through the conceivable scenarios of a nuclear escalation.
Putin has indirectly threatened to use nuclear weapons and declared that he is not bluffing. But this is where things get complicated. Someone who is not bluffing cannot convince the other person who thinks he is bluffing that he is not bluffing by saying he is not bluffing, because that would probably be expected of someone who is bluffing. The only way Putin could safely prove to the West that his threat to use nuclear weapons is not a bluff would be to use nuclear weapons. The West's only way to find out whether it is a bluff or not is to call his bluff. If the military situation comes to a dramatic head, if there is a widespread collapse of the Russian Front, for example, the question of "bluff or no bluff" becomes a matter of fate.
The danger of nuclear escalation is not grasped by the broader public because of a misconception of how nuclear war might occur. The image of the red button possessed by the Russian and American presidents who, by pressing the same, would usher in the end of the world, is misleading. The scenario is different, namely that of gradual escalation, which is much more dangerous because it sets in motion a spiral in which each further turn is associated with greater risk, without either side feeling fully responsible for the escalation. The lines between bluff and actual intent become blurred, and what was meant to be a bluff can become reality.
What needs to be understood is this: The dynamic does not begin when the Kremlin deploys the first tactical nuclear weapons, but before that, when it deploys the delivery systems of those tactical nuclear weapons, because then the White House is under direct pressure to move. The U.S. knows, through satellites and spying, virtually in real time where these delivery systems are and where they are going. The Russians know that the Americans know, and the Americans know that the Russians know. That is, as soon as the delivery systems move, the Russians use that to send a signal to the United States. That message was: to influence the Ukrainians to call off their offensive because, on the other hand, Russia's tactical nuclear weapons are being used.
The question would be: Who will draw his colt first?
If this were a bluff and the U.S. put this pressure on the Ukrainians, this strategy would work and the U.S. would have to worry that the Kremlin would use this method again later. So instead, they could call their bluff and gamble that the Russians will not use the tactical nuclear weapons they have set in motion. If that's the case, Putin's bluff would be called and there would be no denying that he's left bare. This would have far-reaching consequences, because from now on every threat would come to naught and the Kremlin's nuclear armament would be exposed as a toothless tiger. As good as this may sound to Western ears, it comes with a serious problem. For this very reason, Putin would be under extreme pressure to actually use the weapons he has threatened to deploy.
The situation becomes even more complicated. We are dealing with escalation stages where assumptions about later stages influence earlier stages. Because the U.S. is also aware of this dilemma, it is reasonable to think that Putin may feel compelled to actually use the tactical nuclear weapons. This puts pressure on the U.S. to prevent Ukraine from such a strike and not wait for the first nuclear warhead to strike Ukrainian soil. Former U.K. and NATO biological, chemical and nuclear weapons defense force commander Hamish Bretton Gordon told CNN that he assumed Biden had made it clear to Putin: "If you move your tactical nukes, NATO will destroy them with precision-guided long-range missiles."
The United States would be able to use a conventional preemptive strike to knock out the delivery systems of tactical nuclear weapons and make the Kremlin's nuclear strike impossible. The question would be: Who will draw his Colt first? Even if we assume that the Biden administration would not choose to do so, the sheer possibility has repercussions for the Russians' course of action. Since they would have to reckon with such a conventional strike against their tactical nuclear weapons, they would have to strike as quickly and as massively as possible because they only have one opportunity to shoot down their tactical arsenal. In turn, the Americans know this as well, which also puts them under severe pressure to quickly eliminate tactical nuclear weapons.
How would Biden respond?
There is something to be said for the Ukrainians' assumption that the U.S. will protect them in this way against attacks with tactical nuclear weapons and can therefore act in such a cold-blooded manner. Putin, in turn, could now aim to call the U.S. guarantees as a bluff by targeting his tactical nuclear weapons. If he does that, but the U.S. makes no move to do anything about it, that may increase nervousness on the Ukrainian side and thus Moscow's threat potential against Ukraine. That will increase Ukrainian pressure on Biden to take the Russians' tactical nuclear weapons out of play with a preemptive strike. However, that may be a trap and exactly what the Kremlin wants to achieve. The U.S. would look like the aggressor in one fell swoop, the Russian people would rally behind its leadership, and large segments of the world community would condemn the United States.
In other words, once the Russian launchers start moving, the 79-year-old Biden will have a very short period of time to decide whether to take the risk that the Russians are not bluffing and carry out the nuclear decapitation strike against Ukraine or to strike conventionally against the launchers himself. The pressure on him will be enormous, and what the old man decides to do in this situation is an open question. If he chooses to take out the Russian delivery systems with conventional weapons, that would effectively be the U.S. declaring war on Russia. The problem with a preemptive strike is that you end up having difficulty proving that you actually preempted the attacker.
By attacking Russian territory, Putin would have a free hand politically, but would face the problem of not being able to hold a candle to NATO conventionally. The only arsenal of weapons the Russians would have left to counterattack after destroying tactical nuclear weapons would be strategic nuclear weapons, which are widely believed to be impossible to disable. The Kremlin would probably not attack the United States directly, but would go to the next higher level of escalation. That would be an attack with strategic nuclear weapons on military bases in NATO countries that do not have nuclear weapons themselves, i.e., countries like Germany, Poland, or Italy. In Germany, this would probably affect southern Germany and the Rhine-Main region.
Nuclear powers: suicide out of loyalty to the alliance?
NATO would then be faced with the question of whether to respond with a nuclear strike on Russian territory. In this case, however, the nuclear powers USA, France and the United Kingdom would have to reckon with the fact that they themselves would be the target of Russian nuclear weapons as a further counterattack. The question is whether Biden, Macron and Truss would launch their nuclear weapons at Russian targets, even though they would in turn be directing Putin's missiles at them. Then, at the latest, all decision-makers would reach the point where they would have to decide whether to commit suicide in solidarity with their NATO allies. This would be the last chance to stop the escalation and to settle the conflict, admittedly over a destroyed Central Europe, but at least without the downfall of mankind and of their own nation.
The very fact that it is not certain which of the two variants would occur makes the variants before it more likely. For both sides, the Western nuclear powers and Russia, a last lifeboat remains until the end. It is precisely this lifeboat that makes the scenario more likely. This is an old dilemma from the Cold War era. The interests of nuclear weapons states are different from those of countries that do not have nuclear weapons. NATO's deterrence is based on the promise that the nuclear powers are prepared to go down together with the non-nuclear-weapon states. If there are serious doubts about this solidarity to the death, i.e., Moscow considers it a "bluff," the nuclear umbrella for the non-nuclear states no longer works.
One might ask why it is worthwhile to even bother with such horror scenarios, which represent the unlikely worst-case scenario. Because these escalation scenarios make it understandable why actors currently behave the way they do. The worry that caused German chancellors from Konrad Adenauer to Helmut Schmidt and Helmut Kohl to our present day sleepless nights was the gloomy vision that, in the event of conflict, Washington and Moscow would only be able to come to an agreement over the ruins of a destroyed Germany. Early enough not to destroy themselves and the whole world, but too late to prevent nuclear escalation on the European continent. This may explain why Scholz is not exactly overenthusiastic in his support for the Ukrainian offensive in the east.
https://www.achgut.com/artikel/wie_wahrscheinlich_ist_ein_atomkrieg_in_europa
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Thats why I think since long more European nations need nuclear weapons.
Yes. Including Germany. (And Japan, Australia and South Korea).
^ Two words to summarize your interesting post.
Psychological warfare.
Markus
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 04:24 AM
Russia ramped up security on its only bridge to Crimea after a huge blast destroyed sections of it on Saturday.
President Vladimir Putin has now ordered the country's Federal Security Service (FSB) to oversee the key connector to the occupied peninsula.
The bridge is also a pivotal symbol of Russia's annexation of Crimea from Ukraine in 2014. The blast killed three people, Russian investigators said.
Officials said work to fix the damaged sections would begin immediately.
Russia's deputy prime minister ordered the destroyed parts of the bridge to be taken down immediately, and said divers would begin investigating damage below the waterline on Sunday morning, Russian news agencies report.
Hailed by Russian media as "the construction of the century", the bridge has been crucial to Russia for the movement of military equipment, ammunition and troops into southern Ukraine.
But new satellite images released on Saturday showed smoke and fire near the collapsed areas of the 19km (12-mile) bridge, which was opened with much fanfare four years after Moscow annexed Crimea.
Since it plays a strategic role in the war, Ukrainian authorities have said it is a legitimate target, as they vow to retake the peninsula.
Ukrainian officials responded with thinly-veiled approval to the explosion - but have not indicated that their forces were behind the attack.
President Volodymyr Zelensky acknowledged the incident in his nightly address on Saturday, saying: "Today was not a bad day and mostly sunny on our state's territory."
"Unfortunately, it was cloudy in Crimea. Although it was also warm," he added.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63189627
Yes,You are with us or against us.I think an old ex republican president said that on a forgotten day a long time ago.Fast-forward we have a new Dynamic Party and figure head that represents a new way for the future.And a new war for the freedom of yet another Country, The "Ukraine" the United States and it's bought and paid for NATO allies.America and the leaders of your country will tell you, We are the Light against the Dark and we and you our allies will prevail as a Tribe of nations we must defeat evil at all cost.
Ya know i would like to know what that cost is.The Politician's of the United States did not ask for a vote from the people if we wanted to leave a 20 yr. war in Afghanistan to go right into a proxy war in Ukraine.And send billions of the taxpayers money into another war. So much for Democracy where every individual has a say.And we choose as a country and a nation a united friken tribe of the USA in harmony and by the right to vote!!!. If we want to as a whole back and support any country in another war. My god have the politician been lying to us. ? How will we ever get to Utopia if the people don't get their say?
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 04:51 AM
Total combat losses of Russia since beginning of war - about 62,500 people, 266 planes, 235 helicopters, 2,486 tanks, 1,477 artillery systems, 5,133 armored vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS
The Russian occupiers, who invaded the territory of Ukraine, continue to suffer losses. As of the morning of October 9, the loss of enemy personnel are approximately 62,500.
This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff.
As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24/02 to 09/10 are approximately:
personnel - about 62,500 (+440) people were eliminated,
tanks - 2486 (+14) units,
armored combat vehicles - 5133 (+22) units,
artillery systems - 1477 (+18) units,
MLRS - 348 (+3) units,
air defense equipment - 180 (+0) units,
aircraft - 266 (+0) units,
helicopters - 235 (+1) units,
UAVs of operational-tactical level - 1086 (+7),
cruise missiles - 247 (+1),
ships/boats - 15 (+0) units,
automotive equipment and tank trucks - 3890 (+15) units,
special equipment - 136 (+0). Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372445
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 04:57 AM
Representatives of occupying authorities of Nova Kakhovka take their families to territory of Autonomous Republic of Crimea, - General Staff
The occupiers from Nova Kakhovka are taking their families to the temporarily occupied Crimea - on October 7, a convoy of 12 minibusses left for Sevastopol.
This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
"The enemy and his henchmen are fleeing, frightened by the successes of the Defense Forces of Ukraine. Representatives of the occupying authorities of Nova Kakhovka are taking their families to the temporarily occupied territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. According to available information, on October 7, a convoy of 12 minibusses left for the city of Sevastopol. A similar situation is observed in the Luhansk region. So, collaborators began to be evacuated from Starobilsk to Luhansk," the report says. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372419
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 05:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU5Du4DEjog
Total combat losses of Russia since beginning of war - about 62,500 people, 266 planes, 235 helicopters, 2,486 tanks, 1,477 artillery systems, 5,133 armored vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS
The Russian occupiers, who invaded the territory of Ukraine, continue to suffer losses. As of the morning of October 9, the loss of enemy personnel are approximately 62,500.
This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff.
As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24/02 to 09/10 are approximately:
personnel - about 62,500 (+440) people were eliminated,
tanks - 2486 (+14) units,
armored combat vehicles - 5133 (+22) units,
artillery systems - 1477 (+18) units,
MLRS - 348 (+3) units,
air defense equipment - 180 (+0) units,
aircraft - 266 (+0) units,
helicopters - 235 (+1) units,
UAVs of operational-tactical level - 1086 (+7),
cruise missiles - 247 (+1),
ships/boats - 15 (+0) units,
automotive equipment and tank trucks - 3890 (+15) units,
special equipment - 136 (+0). Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372445
Ya know Jim that's all propaganda, I think the professional politician and their advisers which are nothing but Ivey league ideologues. Will **** their pants soon.We're talkin about a country that would swallow up Britain and the USA.We will have to see if our politician's can win the gamble.
One damn things for sure they and their families will not want for nothing.
This analysis goes far beyond what the media usually say about the likelihood of nuclear war. Recommended read! Not just profane bluffing but psychological automatisms is the name of the game, and that is what makes it so dangerous. AdG writes:
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How likely is a nuclear war in Europe?
Putin has indirectly threatened to use nuclear weapons. How credible is this declaration of war? Let's play through the conceivable scenarios of a nuclear escalation.
Putin has indirectly threatened to use nuclear weapons and declared that he is not bluffing. But this is where things get complicated. Someone who is not bluffing cannot convince the other person who thinks he is bluffing that he is not bluffing by saying he is not bluffing, because that would probably be expected of someone who is bluffing. The only way Putin could safely prove to the West that his threat to use nuclear weapons is not a bluff would be to use nuclear weapons. The West's only way to find out whether it is a bluff or not is to call his bluff. If the military situation comes to a dramatic head, if there is a widespread collapse of the Russian Front, for example, the question of "bluff or no bluff" becomes a matter of fate.
The danger of nuclear escalation is not grasped by the broader public because of a misconception of how nuclear war might occur. The image of the red button possessed by the Russian and American presidents who, by pressing the same, would usher in the end of the world, is misleading. The scenario is different, namely that of gradual escalation, which is much more dangerous because it sets in motion a spiral in which each further turn is associated with greater risk, without either side feeling fully responsible for the escalation. The lines between bluff and actual intent become blurred, and what was meant to be a bluff can become reality.
What needs to be understood is this: The dynamic does not begin when the Kremlin deploys the first tactical nuclear weapons, but before that, when it deploys the delivery systems of those tactical nuclear weapons, because then the White House is under direct pressure to move. The U.S. knows, through satellites and spying, virtually in real time where these delivery systems are and where they are going. The Russians know that the Americans know, and the Americans know that the Russians know. That is, as soon as the delivery systems move, the Russians use that to send a signal to the United States. That message was: to influence the Ukrainians to call off their offensive because, on the other hand, Russia's tactical nuclear weapons are being used.
The question would be: Who will draw his colt first?
If this were a bluff and the U.S. put this pressure on the Ukrainians, this strategy would work and the U.S. would have to worry that the Kremlin would use this method again later. So instead, they could call their bluff and gamble that the Russians will not use the tactical nuclear weapons they have set in motion. If that's the case, Putin's bluff would be called and there would be no denying that he's left bare. This would have far-reaching consequences, because from now on every threat would come to naught and the Kremlin's nuclear armament would be exposed as a toothless tiger. As good as this may sound to Western ears, it comes with a serious problem. For this very reason, Putin would be under extreme pressure to actually use the weapons he has threatened to deploy.
The situation becomes even more complicated. We are dealing with escalation stages where assumptions about later stages influence earlier stages. Because the U.S. is also aware of this dilemma, it is reasonable to think that Putin may feel compelled to actually use the tactical nuclear weapons. This puts pressure on the U.S. to prevent Ukraine from such a strike and not wait for the first nuclear warhead to strike Ukrainian soil. Former U.K. and NATO biological, chemical and nuclear weapons defense force commander Hamish Bretton Gordon told CNN that he assumed Biden had made it clear to Putin: "If you move your tactical nukes, NATO will destroy them with precision-guided long-range missiles."
The United States would be able to use a conventional preemptive strike to knock out the delivery systems of tactical nuclear weapons and make the Kremlin's nuclear strike impossible. The question would be: Who will draw his Colt first? Even if we assume that the Biden administration would not choose to do so, the sheer possibility has repercussions for the Russians' course of action. Since they would have to reckon with such a conventional strike against their tactical nuclear weapons, they would have to strike as quickly and as massively as possible because they only have one opportunity to shoot down their tactical arsenal. In turn, the Americans know this as well, which also puts them under severe pressure to quickly eliminate tactical nuclear weapons.
How would Biden respond?
There is something to be said for the Ukrainians' assumption that the U.S. will protect them in this way against attacks with tactical nuclear weapons and can therefore act in such a cold-blooded manner. Putin, in turn, could now aim to call the U.S. guarantees as a bluff by targeting his tactical nuclear weapons. If he does that, but the U.S. makes no move to do anything about it, that may increase nervousness on the Ukrainian side and thus Moscow's threat potential against Ukraine. That will increase Ukrainian pressure on Biden to take the Russians' tactical nuclear weapons out of play with a preemptive strike. However, that may be a trap and exactly what the Kremlin wants to achieve. The U.S. would look like the aggressor in one fell swoop, the Russian people would rally behind its leadership, and large segments of the world community would condemn the United States.
In other words, once the Russian launchers start moving, the 79-year-old Biden will have a very short period of time to decide whether to take the risk that the Russians are not bluffing and carry out the nuclear decapitation strike against Ukraine or to strike conventionally against the launchers himself. The pressure on him will be enormous, and what the old man decides to do in this situation is an open question. If he chooses to take out the Russian delivery systems with conventional weapons, that would effectively be the U.S. declaring war on Russia. The problem with a preemptive strike is that you end up having difficulty proving that you actually preempted the attacker.
By attacking Russian territory, Putin would have a free hand politically, but would face the problem of not being able to hold a candle to NATO conventionally. The only arsenal of weapons the Russians would have left to counterattack after destroying tactical nuclear weapons would be strategic nuclear weapons, which are widely believed to be impossible to disable. The Kremlin would probably not attack the United States directly, but would go to the next higher level of escalation. That would be an attack with strategic nuclear weapons on military bases in NATO countries that do not have nuclear weapons themselves, i.e., countries like Germany, Poland, or Italy. In Germany, this would probably affect southern Germany and the Rhine-Main region.
Nuclear powers: suicide out of loyalty to the alliance?
NATO would then be faced with the question of whether to respond with a nuclear strike on Russian territory. In this case, however, the nuclear powers USA, France and the United Kingdom would have to reckon with the fact that they themselves would be the target of Russian nuclear weapons as a further counterattack. The question is whether Biden, Macron and Truss would launch their nuclear weapons at Russian targets, even though they would in turn be directing Putin's missiles at them. Then, at the latest, all decision-makers would reach the point where they would have to decide whether to commit suicide in solidarity with their NATO allies. This would be the last chance to stop the escalation and to settle the conflict, admittedly over a destroyed Central Europe, but at least without the downfall of mankind and of their own nation.
The very fact that it is not certain which of the two variants would occur makes the variants before it more likely. For both sides, the Western nuclear powers and Russia, a last lifeboat remains until the end. It is precisely this lifeboat that makes the scenario more likely. This is an old dilemma from the Cold War era. The interests of nuclear weapons states are different from those of countries that do not have nuclear weapons. NATO's deterrence is based on the promise that the nuclear powers are prepared to go down together with the non-nuclear-weapon states. If there are serious doubts about this solidarity to the death, i.e., Moscow considers it a "bluff," the nuclear umbrella for the non-nuclear states no longer works.
One might ask why it is worthwhile to even bother with such horror scenarios, which represent the unlikely worst-case scenario. Because these escalation scenarios make it understandable why actors currently behave the way they do. The worry that caused German chancellors from Konrad Adenauer to Helmut Schmidt and Helmut Kohl to our present day sleepless nights was the gloomy vision that, in the event of conflict, Washington and Moscow would only be able to come to an agreement over the ruins of a destroyed Germany. Early enough not to destroy themselves and the whole world, but too late to prevent nuclear escalation on the European continent. This may explain why Scholz is not exactly overenthusiastic in his support for the Ukrainian offensive in the east.
https://www.achgut.com/artikel/wie_wahrscheinlich_ist_ein_atomkrieg_in_europa
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That's why I think since long more European nations need nuclear weapons.
Yes. Including Germany. (And Japan, Australia and South Korea).
Everything you have stated is Hypothetical.Your a smart man Bird. But you don't know.And i agree with you Europe needs and they already have their own nuclear weapons.Get out from under the United States control of them.Yes if European Nations had their own nuclear weapons. We here in the USA could support so many more immigrant's and if we can all breed up, here in America. 200 hundred years from now the asians will not have a chance. And i know your going to say what the hell are you talking about.Let me know when the planet or any country on this planet is having a caucasian history month or 1 day ok.
Skybird
10-09-22, 07:51 AM
I have not stated anythign there, I just quoted the text form the german original source, via DeepL translator.
What is true about the US maybe being hesitent to go into suicide mode over Europe, is also true for France and Britain. Their nuclear weapons are not "Europe's weapons", they are exclusively France's and Britain's weapons - and that is the reason why Germany and Italy and Poland also should have their own nukes, because their density in military and US bases are likely to make them primary Russian targets in case of a war.
"Europe" has no nuclear weapons - France and Britain have. That is a very very big difference. France already made clear that they will never put their nukes under NATO or European command - a foolish daydream of the Germans they voiced last year or the year before. And I assume London in principle ticks the same way, they just sugarcoat it more nicely in words.
Skybird
10-09-22, 07:57 AM
Train traffic on the bridge is running according to plan again, according to Russian sources. Ukrainians have not confirmed it so far. :)
So believe what you want. I fear it could be true.
Ya know Jim that's all propaganda, I think the professional politician and their advisers which are nothing but Ivey league ideologues. Will **** their pants soon.We're talkin about a country that would swallow up Britain and the USA.We will have to see if our politician's can win the gamble.
One damn things for sure they and their families will not want for nothing.If Russians can't even defend a bridge how can they win a war!
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 12:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLqljH39ms
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 01:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt_Ygd6xKyQ
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 01:13 PM
Ukrainian special services are authors, perpetrators, and customers of Crimean bridge explosion - Putin
On the evening of October 9, the President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin, said that the attack on the Kerch bridge was organized and carried out by the special services of Ukraine.
As reports Censor.NЕТ, this is stated by social networks.
The Russian president stated that the authors, executors and customers of the Crimean bridge bombing are the special services of Ukraine. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372548
Some innocent civilians in Ukraine will lose their life now..Putin will revenge this by some massive attacks on civilian targets in Ukraine.
I heard that 3 people lost their life in the bridge explosion.
Markus
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 01:19 PM
"We want to arm assault battalion": Poroshenko bought batch of Spartan armored vehicles from Britain. VIDEO&PHOTOS
Petro Poroshenko announced the purchase of a batch of Spartan armored vehicles for the needs of the Armed Forces. The fifth President in Great Britain visited the military warehouses from where the equipment will be delivered to Ukraine.
"This is a combat vehicle, it is called a Spartan. They perform a reconnaissance, surveillance and combat function. Today, we jointly buy and send this armored vehicle to Ukraine for a counteroffensive," Poroshenko shows, writes рress service of "ES", reports Censor.NЕТ.
"An assault is always accompanied by heavy casualties, not only in the enemy, but also in the Ukrainian army. In this war, a war of artillery, the number and severity of injuries depends on the equipment on which the assault or evacuation takes place. During my trips to the East and South, the military strongly advised me to look toward Spartan vehicles, several dozen of which have already been delivered to Ukraine from the United Kingdom," Poroshenko explained.
"When we came to Britain, we agreed with the Ministry of Defense to show us this equipment. And if it's ready, we will process it for our Armed Forces. This equipment is in perfect condition. All these machines are of the same type but designed for different functions. One is designed for assault and reconnaissance, the other for transporting the wounded, but they are united by armor that protects against debris and death, not only saving the lives of our soldiers, but also crushing the Russian.
This equipment is fast, tracked, it can drive through trenches up to 2 meters wide, move over obstacles and submerge in water up to 1 meter," notes the fifth President.
"We have already purchased six of these vehicles and they are ready for shipment to Ukraine. And in 8 more we have to replace the batteries and prepare them for shipment to the assault battalion," Poroshenko said.
"These six Spartan will go through Poland to Ukraine the other day. So soon our Armed Forces will receive these armored vehicles," Poroshenko said.
"I want to thank you all because you were the ones who helped raise some of the money for these armored vehicles. Together with you we have saved more than one life with armor, and every hryvnia of yours and mine has already played a huge role in the counterattack. And it will play again. Until the end. Until victory. To all the liberated territories of our country," Poroshenko appealed to Ukrainians who help the army.
The Spartan belongs to the CVR (Combat Vehicle Reconnaissance) family of armored fighting vehicles. In the British Army, this APC was designed to transport small specialized groups of reconnaissance personnel, anti-aircraft gunners, mortars, engineers, etc. The Spartan has high mobility and compact dimensions, and can carry up to seven men, three of which are crew members. It can overcome water obstacles.
As is known, the Poroshenko Foundation and Public Association "Delo Gromad" purchased and handed over to the Airborne Assault Troops 11 Italian armored vehicles MLS Shield. The Poroshenko Foundation traditionally doubles the amount of funds raised for the AFU by volunteers.
Six months after the start of the large-scale invasion by the Russian army, the Poroshenko Foundation, the Roshen company, and volunteers of the Delo Gromad public association transferred nearly $46 million worth of aid to the AFU.
These funds were used to purchase thousands of body armor and Kevlar helmets, weapons, hundreds of vehicles for the front, including armored cars, trucks and pickup trucks, thermal imagers, hundreds of drones, power generators, digital radios, starliners, military clothing, turnstiles, NATO first-aid kits, water purification systems, construction supplies. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3372543
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 01:21 PM
Russia is looking for additional resources for waging war, negotiations are underway with third countries regarding purchase of shells, - General Staff
The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine published information that the leadership of Russia is looking for additional resources for waging war by all means.
As Censor.NET informs, this was reported on the official Facebook page of the General Staff.
The message states: "The leadership of the Russian Federation is taking measures to find additional resources for waging war. At this time, negotiations are underway with third countries regarding the purchase of artillery shells, mortar mines, and components for rocket launcher systems.
Military warehouses and arsenals of the Republic of Belarus remain another source of supplies. In the near future, it is planned to transfer 13 more echelons with ammunition and material and technical means to the territory of Russia." Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372539
53% of Russians still thought the war is proceeding successfully when polled by Levada in September, down from 73% in May. Most frequent reasons for disappointment:
- No end in sight: 27%
- Mobilization: 23%
- We retreat: 22%
https://i.postimg.cc/3r97Kw2W/Fep-Y2-B9-WYAA-EGn.jpg
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1579173054504394753
The reasons in more detail:
https://i.postimg.cc/0yDBythZ/Fep-Zram-Xw-AUDMJR.jpg
Despite Russian pollsters' claims to the contrary (including the opinion of the management of independent Levada), I don't believe you can do telephone polling in a draconian, repressed country. Thus questions like "do you support the war" are meaningless. But still:
https://i.postimg.cc/Qt96v0gp/Fepah1-YXg-AYzy-v.jpg
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 01:40 PM
Crimean bridge is guarded from ground, from sky, from sea and from space, - Russian media
The Crimean bridge, on which the explosion occurred the day before, is one of the most protected places in the world - it is guarded from the ground, from the sky, from the sea, underwater and even from space.
As Censor.NET informs, this was reported on Sunday, October 9, by the Russian publication Meduza.
It is noted that the entrances to the Crimean Bridge on both sides are guarded by special units of the Russian Guard (they were supposed to inspect cars entering the crossing for explosives and illegal cargo, but the inspections were selective).
According to the statements of the Russian Ministry of Transport, vans and trucks are illuminated with the help of special systems that can allegedly "detect even a nut in the interior of the car or consider what the driver took with him for lunch."
Observation posts were set up on the bridge itself.
It is reported that in the event of an emergency, a special rapid response team must arrive on the scene within minutes to clear the accident and understand what happened.
The Russian Guard is allegedly assisted by special border control forces of the FSB and anti-sabotage groups on land and on water.
According to the publication, small mobile boats of several projects protect the city on the water: anti-sabotage boats of the Grachonok type (equipped with machine guns, grenade launchers or even Igla missile systems), boats of the Mangust project (equipped with machine guns and missiles, but they are mainly used for intercepting ships and inspection) .
In addition, it is reported that BK-16 amphibious boats (the same missiles, machine guns and 19 paratroopers on board), motor boats Afalina and Sargan can be used if necessary.
In order to protect the bridge from a battering ram in front of its piers, special cylindrical concrete fortifications were built to prevent ships from approaching the piers of the crossing.
From land, the ships are supported by the Bal coastal missile complex, equipped with anti-ship missiles with a range of up to 260 kilometers, and the modern Bastion complex with Onyx cruise missiles.
Also, according to the publication, the bridge is guarded underwater - to prevent mining or undermining of the bridge supports, military divers and special groups of the Black Sea Fleet are constantly in the water. And the Plavnyk water area control system supposedly allows you to detect a person with a distance of 2 km, and a ship - with a distance of 3 km.
Special sound traps are also used to protect the bridge - the Amulet-P system.
In addition to divers and traps, specially trained dolphins are allegedly involved in the protection of the Crimean Bridge.
Russia is also allegedly monitoring the bridge from a special Kosmos-K satellite. And the sky above the crossing is regularly patrolled by Russian Su-27 fighter jets and Il-38 anti-submarine reconnaissance aircraft.
On the ground, the city is protected by anti-aircraft systems of different ranges: the S-400 Triumf missile complex and the Pantsyr-S1 anti-aircraft gun.
It is also reported that radar systems are involved in the protection of the bridge: Podsolnukh (it is located in the Crimea and can detect targets at a distance of 450 km) and the Voronezh-DM station (covers a distance of 6 thousand km).
The publication notes that, according to the BBC's calculations, 700 million rubles were spent in 2022, plus another 618 million - on various technical security systems.
According to the Russian edition, the guarding of the railway part of the bridge cost approximately that much.
It will be recalled that the bridge across the Kerch Strait was opened by the occupiers in May 2018. In December 2019, Russia launched a railway connection with it, after which the USA introduced additional sanctions.
Also remind, that on the morning of October 8, a fire broke out on the Crimean bridge as a result of an explosion. According to the Russians, the detonation of the truck led to the ignition of 7 fuel tanks and the partial collapse of two spans of the bridge. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372528
Some innocent civilians in Ukraine will lose their life now..Putin will revenge this by some massive attacks on civilian targets in Ukraine.
I heard that 3 people lost their life in the bridge explosion.
MarkusZaporizhzhia has been hit by Russian missiles, dozens of civilians have been killed in their sleep. More horrendous attacks in Russia’s brutal war against Ukraine and its population.
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 01:44 PM
At least 13 people have been killed by Russian missile strikes on the south-eastern city of Zaporizhzhia, Ukrainian officials say.
Dozens more were wounded, and several residential buildings destroyed.
The city is under Ukrainian control, but it is part of a region that Russia says it annexed last month.
Zaporizhzhia has been hit repeatedly in recent weeks, as Russia hits back at urban areas after suffering defeats in the south and north-east of Ukraine.
Russian troops are negotiating with third countries about the purchase of ammunition, and are also moving them to the front from Belarus, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported on 9 October.
The leadership of the Russian Federation is taking measures to find additional resources for waging war. At this time, negotiations are underway with third countries regarding the purchase of artillery shells, mortar mines, and components for rocket launcher systems. Military warehouses and arsenals of the Republic of Belarus remain another source of supplies. In the near future, it is planned to move 13 more echelons with ammunition and material and technical means to the territory of Russia.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/10/09/russia-negotiates-ammunition-with-third-countries-transports-it-from-belarus-ukraines-general-staff/
With more reports that Russia is scrambling for munitions on world market, we had a great primer on this & what both sides have done to fill the gap. Pakistan is a player for Ukraine, for instance
Pakistan, Ukraine, And The Race For Third-Party Ammunition
In a plea for assistance in June of this year, Ukraine’s Deputy Head of Military Intelligence, Vadym Skibitsky, told reporters that the conflict with Russia “is now an artillery war that we are losing, [as] Ukraine has one artillery piece to 10-15 Russian artillery pieces and we have almost used up all of our ammunition.” Although the United States and allies in Europe were already delivering shells to Ukraine, they themselves found their stocks also decreasing at an alarming rate. In a surprising development, Pakistan emerged as an important source and an air bridge was established to bring much-needed ammunition to Ukraine. In a war where artillery has become king, both Russia and Ukraine have been looking for any means to refill their ammunition reserves. Russia's losses of major weapons storage areas, especially to precision strikes from Ukraine's U.S.-supplied High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), only accelerated its need for fresh ammunition.
Ukraine had burned through its Soviet-era artillery stocks just a handful of months into the war and was gobbling up whatever its allies could give it. These concerns seem to have effectively warranted a boost in the capacity and creativity of both manufacturers and states, as both Russia and Ukraine have turned to unforeseen partners for answers.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/pakistan-ukraine-and-the-race-for-third-party-ammunition
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 02:04 PM
Talked about Ukraine and energy - Biden had conversation with Scholz
US President Joe Biden on Sunday held a telephone conversation with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, during which the leaders discussed aid to Ukraine and the situation on the global energy market.
According to Censor.NЕТ with reference to Іnterfax-Ukraine, this is stated by White House.
"President Biden spoke today with Chancellor of Germany Olaf Scholz," the message reads.
It emphasizes that the heads of state discussed the situation in Ukraine, as well as "obligations to provide assistance to Ukraine in the sphere of economy and security."
According to the White House, Biden and Scholz also discussed "recent developments in global energy markets and the importance of ensuring stable and affordable energy supplies." Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372551
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 02:10 PM
Russia and Belarus will not be able to use IMF loans to obtain US dollars, - Biden
Biden banned the US Treasury from accepting special borrowing rights from Russia and Belarus in exchange for dollars.
This was reported in the White House, Censor.NET informs.
"On Monday, October 4, the president signed Decree No. 6899 "The draft law on the prohibition of the exchange of special borrowing rights for Russia and Belarus", by which he prohibited the Minister of Finance from participating in operations of the exchange of special borrowing rights belonging to Russia and Belarus," the document states.
The law will be valid for five years after its adoption. Also, its effect may end early if the US president confirms to Congress that Russia and Belarus have "ceased destabilizing activities regarding the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."
Special drawing rights are a means of payment issued by the International Monetary Fund. It is subject to exchange for freely convertible currencies. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3371564
As his military dumps the bodies of civilians into mass graves. Putin on the explosion at the Crimean Bridge:
There is no doubt we're dealing with an act of terror, aimed at the destruction of Russia's critical civilian infrastructure. Ukrainian special services ordered, concocted and carried out this terrorist attack.
Jimbuna
10-09-22, 02:33 PM
Russian 'Elite' Guard Arresting Military in Moscow: Ukraine Intelligence
Ukrainian intelligence officials said Saturday that an "elite" Russian military division arrested other members of the military in Moscow as discontent appears to grow over the Ukraine war.
The alleged arrests, which Newsweek could not independently confirm, come more than seven months after Russian President Vladimir Putin launched the so-called "special military operation" against Ukraine. Although Kremlin officials aimed for a quick victory, Moscow's forces have struggled to achieve any substantial goals in the war. Meanwhile, Kyiv says its forces have taken back thousands of square miles of Russian-occupied territory in recent weeks.
Putin appears to be facing mounting political pressure back at home as his loses in Ukraine continue to pile up. Russian media figures have been increasingly willing to criticize the war, which they support but argue has been poorly executed. Putin allies have demanded accountability and changes in the way Russia continues the invasion.
On Saturday, the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine tweeted that arrests of some members of the military had begun in Moscow. They did not provide ample details about the alleged arrests. It remained unknown who or how many people were allegedly arrested, as well as any reasons for the claimed arrests.
Ukrainian intelligence said a "complex of 'measures' directed against the military began in the Russian capital" and that movement in the city center was blocked late Saturday local time.
Ukraine also claimed that members of the Dzerzhynsky operational division, an "elite" Russian guard founded in the 1920s, were entering Moscow.
Amid a lack of information and confirmation of the alleged arrests from Russian authorities or state media, some experts were skeptical of the Ukrainian intelligence claims.
Rosalba Castelletti, a journalist for the Italian newspaper la Repubblica, tweeted a video from downtown Moscow that appeared to show a normal night in Russia's capital with no sign of heightened military presence. She wrote: "Traffic is pretty normal. There are no military movements. It's just a normal Saturday evening in Moscow."
"Ukrainian intelligence probably trying to stir things up a bit by claiming there are unusual troop, police movements and traffic restrictions in Moscow," added Euan MacDonald, the editor of the New Voice of Ukraine.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russian-elite-guard-arresting-military-in-moscow-ukraine-intelligence/ar-AA12KgKO?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=2b6c2e6119984272b655fa76fbcbc0c1
Is there something called technical suicide ?
Radio TV tower in Moscow could not withstand the flow of Russian propaganda and caught on fire.
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1579146547236773892
Markus
Danish Ekstra Bladet writes:
Russia blames Ukraine for over 100 attacks in nine days
Ukraine has launched rockets, mortars and other fire at 32 sites in Russia in October, FSB says
Russia's intelligence service FSB accuses Ukraine of attacking Russian territory over 100 times in October alone.
In recent days, a total of 32 villages and small towns in the Russian regions of Bryansk, Kursk and Belgorod have been hit by mortar attacks.
The three regions are all close to the border with Ukraine.
According to the FSB, the number of Ukrainian attacks has increased significantly.
- Since the beginning of October, the number of attacks by Ukrainian armed units against Russia's border territory has increased significantly, the FSB writes in a statement.
- Over 100 bombings have been recorded in 32 locations.
Rockets, artillery and mortars have reportedly been fired across the border, as have drones.
One person is reported to have been killed and five injured in the attacks, the FSB reports. In addition, two power plants, 11 houses and two administrative buildings are reported to have been destroyed in the attacks, the service says, according to the AFP news agency.
It is not possible to confirm the information independently.
The FSB is responsible for border security in Russia.
Russia invaded Ukraine on 24 February. Since then, the Russians have repeatedly accused Ukrainian forces of attacking small towns on the Russian side of the border
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
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Skybird
10-09-22, 07:06 PM
Vadym Skibitsky, :hmmm:
:stare:
Wolln die mich verarschen...?
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 04:37 AM
'The capital is under attack by Russian terrorists': Dozens of missiles hit Kyiv and at least eight people killed
At least eight people have been killed and dozens injured in Kyiv with several other cities being targeted in Russian missile attacks.
Rostyslav Smyrnov, an aide to the interior minister, said six cars had caught fire after the initial attack - and another 15 vehicles were damaged.
Explosions have also been heard in Lviv, Ternopil, Dnipro, Zhytomyr, and Zaporizhzhia.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy said in a video post that showed him outside his presidential office: "They want panic and chaos, they want to destroy our energy system.
"The second target is people. Such a time and such targets were specially chosen to cause as much damage as possible."
Kyiv's mayor Vitali Klitschko said some critical infrastructure had been hit, adding: "The capital is under attack from Russian terrorists!
"The rockets hit objects in the city centre (in the Shevchenkiv district) and in the Solomyan district. The air alert, and therefore the threat, continues.
"I appeal to all residents of the capital: stay in shelters during the alarm. If there is no urgent need, it is better not to go to the city today."
Ukraine's top general said Ukrainian forces shot down at least 41 missiles on Monday morning.
"This morning, 75 missiles were launched. 41 of them were neutralised by our air defence," General Valeriy Zaluzhnyi,
Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, wrote on Twitter.
A witness told the Reuters news agency that black smoke was seen rising from a building in the city centre following the sound of a blast.
Others on social media posted images alleging to be from the city, with some claiming a "missile attack" was "struck down" by Ukrainian forces.
The last attack on Kyiv was in June with one missile hitting an apartment building, killing one and injuring six.
Sky News security and defence editor Deborah Haynes said: "There's been relative calm there in recent months.
"This is very unusual to have strikes right in the heart of the city, where the government offices are.
"We don't yet have confirmation of what has been hit... but an adviser to the president has tweeted just now calling Russia a terrorist state again with photographs of flames behind a building."
However, Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Ukrainian President Zelenskyy, tweeted: "Putin accuses Ukraine of terrorism? Sounds too cynical even for Russia.
"Less than 24 hours ago (Russian) planes hit residential area of Zaporizhzhia with 12 missiles, killing 13 people and injuring more than 50.
"There is only one terrorist state here and the whole world knows who it is."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/the-capital-is-under-attack-by-russian-terrorists-dozens-of-missiles-hit-kyiv-and-at-least-eight-people-killed/ar-AA12MAen?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=0dac10af94394e78b3c11ba9ce47e153
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 04:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7brzL5K0BOw
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 04:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km-tEYMbsMc
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 05:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2vMInQg_co
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 05:29 AM
Lukashenko and Putin are deploying joint grouping of troops
Alexander Lukashenko, who seized power in Belarus, said that he and Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed on the deployment of a joint regional grouping of troops.
The self-proclaimed head of Belarus announced this at a meeting on security issues, Censor.NET informs with reference to "Belta".
Such a decision was made allegedly following a one-on-one meeting of the aggressors after the informal summit of the CIS in St. Petersburg.
"In connection with the escalation on the western borders of the Union State, we agreed on the deployment of the regional grouping of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus. This is all according to our documents," Lukashenko said.
According to him, the formation of a joint Russian-Belarusian group has already begun.
"It has been going on, in my opinion, for two days. My order was given to start forming this group," said the self-proclaimed head of Belarus. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372655
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 05:32 AM
Borrell reacted to massive shelling of Ukraine: "Additional military support from EU is on way"
The European Union will provide another military support in response to the shelling by Russia.
This was reported by the head of EU diplomacy Josep Borrell, Censor.NET informs.
"Deeply shocked by Russia's attacks on civilians in Kyiv and other cities of Ukraine. Such actions have no place in the 21st century. I condemn them. We are with Ukraine. Additional military support from the EU is on the way," the message reads. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372658
Skybird
10-10-22, 05:37 AM
Reports over here say the German consulate in Kyiv should have been hit by missile. Not yet confirmed, I think.
Danish island of Bornholm suffered an unexplained power blakcout for hours. Bornholm is close to the attack points on Nordsstream 1 and 2.
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 05:39 AM
Zelensky and Scholz agreed on convening urgent meeting of G7
President Volodymyr Zelensky plans to speak at the G7 meeting.
The head of state reported this on Twitter, Censor.NET informs.
"We have agreed with Olaf Scholz, Chancellor of Germany, which chairs the G7, to convene an urgent meeting of the group. My speech is scheduled, in which I will talk about the terrorist attacks of the Russian Federation. We also discussed increasing pressure on Russia and helping to restore damaged infrastructure," the President emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372644
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 05:41 AM
Consequences of rocket attack in center of Kyiv. VIDEO
Footage of the consequences of the Russian missile strike in the center of Kyiv has been published online.
As Censor.NET reports, the video recorded the consequences of the attack near Shevchenko Park. Source: https://censor.net/en/v3372672
Skybird
10-10-22, 06:08 AM
This all is not surprising, but was expected, even by many Ukrainians. Putler does what he always does, I said it often enough: he esclates. Its the only behavioural pattern he shows, always.
This war will last at least over the winter. Putler wants to see what winter will do to the Europoean people and their governments' policies.
Its high time to pull all safeties and inhibitions on wepaon dleiveries for the ukraine. I expect nothign of the German Trottelgovernment, but put my hope on the Americans (once again...). Long range missiles for HIMARS, wepaons by which they cna reach the Kerch bridge and military targets in Russia that are relevant for the war in Ukraine. The veto rights sdhould be not on targetting Russian soil, but military irrelevant targets.
Putler escalates, because his soldiers cannot stand to that of Ukraine. So they mnassacre civilians, women and childrne instead, elder, and ill. If they are too weka to even kill these, they probbaly will abuse dogs and cats and turn the necks of budgies in their cages.
Wester n Europe already is under attack, whedther potliians want to realise it or not, and th eattacks are m aterila already, not just "threats". Our economies already are vitally hurt by Russia, our economic existence is at risk at leats in Europe, and the world population suffers from devastating food shortages, pays with lives already. This already is a world war, and it is that with a long stzarting poahse sionce many, many years.
Its high time that here in Europe we really finally come to our senses and admit what life-threatening desaster we are in.
Obama's desastrous Middle East policy and his stupid babbling also causes havoc now, as I predicted it one day wpould. That he avoided the Saudis and approached the Persians, has not gone unnoticed, and then the Donald came and added his share to make things worse. A fundamental reorientation in Ryiad is the result, and OPEC' recently erected middle finger shows it. The sell most of their oil to China and Asia.
And no, no green deal policies in place on that. Somebody please hand the EU a handkerchief.
Skybird
10-10-22, 07:24 AM
It seems Musk plays more and more Putler's game. It is being reported that his Starlink satellites more and more often fail in the midst of ongoing combat operations in enbattled regions, with desastrous conseqeunces for the Urkainian side.
I dont trust Musk. He turned his coats in many regards one time too often, for my taste and patience. In the end its "Musk first" for him.
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 07:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIRdobWH5D0
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 08:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv-pAYoY3gY
Rockstar
10-10-22, 08:12 AM
It seems Musk plays more and more Putler's game. It is being reported that his Starlink satellites more and more often fail in the midst of ongoing combat operations in enbattled regions, with desastrous conseqeunces for the Urkainian side.
I dont trust Musk. He turned his coats in many regards one time too often, for my taste and patience. In the end its "Musk first" for him.
Best defense against a narcissist is to ignore them. :yep:
Musk only won the contract to build and deploy Starlink, it’s not his creation. The so-called Starlink system was funded by the U.S. Government and developed by D.A.R.P.A. called Project Blackjack. If it’s failing on the front lineit’s because a. The signal is being jammed, b. The satellites are being destroyed. Musk doesn’t have a say in the military application of the system.
If they’re being destroyed the system was designed to quickly send cheap replacement satellites.
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 08:18 AM
Vladimir Putin says Monday's widespread Russian strikes on Ukraine are retaliation for the attack on a bridge between Crimea and the Russian mainland.
Putin blames the bridge explosion on Ukraine, and threatens more strikes in response to what he calls "terrorist attacks"
Saturday's attack on the bridge badly damaged the only link between Russia and occupied Crimea - a key route for military supplies for the war.
Today's missile strikes on cities across Ukraine, including the capital, Kyiv, appear to be the most widespread set of attacks since the early weeks of the war.
The capital has been targeted for the first time in months - Ukraine says 11 people have been killed across the country.
Ukraine's air force spokesman says Russia fired 83 missiles at targets in Ukraine, with many of them shot down.
Meanwhile, the leader of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, has ordered his troops to deploy with Russian forces near Ukraine.
He claims Ukraine and Nato are planning to launch an attack on his country, but offered no evidence.
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 08:29 AM
Lukashenko did not make final decision to fully enter war on side of Russian Federation, - Defense Intelligence
Currently, it cannot be claimed that the Belarusian dictator Oleksandr Lukashenko made the final decision on the participation of the Republic of Belarus in the war against Ukraine on the side of the Russian Federation.
Andrii Yusov, a representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense, said this in a comment to Ukrinform, Censor.NET informs.
"Today we cannot say that the final decision has been made by Lukashenko. And as of today, according to the general information from various sources, practical actions on possible preparation and implementation in the country, in particular, additional mobilization measures have not been observed. Accordingly, reports of such a decision has not yet come in. The activity of the land component along the border with Ukraine is currently within daily limits, without drastic changes.
That is, we can say and claim that Putin is trying to pressure Lukashenko with regard to full participation in the war against Ukraine, but we can see what help the Lukashenka regime provides to Putin in this - this is the air space, and many other moments that were present, and in that including the supply of ammunition and weapons, which was reported earlier. But with regard to full participation in the ground operation today, we cannot claim this. If such a decision is made and preparations are made, Ukraine will know about it and react accordingly as one of the possible scenarios," Yusov said, adding that Ukraine is ready for this case, and all necessary measures are being taken.
The representative of the Defense Intelligence once again emphasized that, as of today, there is no strike group on the territory of Belarus that could launch an attack on the territory of Ukraine in the coming days.
"As of now, there is no such thing, and there is no information that an appropriate decision has been made on the participation of Belarusian troops in a ground operation today. If there is such preparation, Ukraine will know about it. But one way or another, this is a scenario for which the defense forces are ready. and Ukraine is carrying out the entire range of measures to respond to this as planned," Yusov explained.
Commenting on information about the transfer of Russian mobilized troops to the territory of Belarus, the spokesman noted that Ukrainian intelligence had previously reported on the preparation of appropriate infrastructure on the territory of the Republic of Belarus in order to place an additional 20,000 Russian troops there.
Lukashenka's statements today, Yusov noted, only confirm this information. "Full-fledged preparations are underway for the deployment of the infrastructure, which means that they will be there. But the presence of these troops is also not only a war against Ukraine, it is also additional pressure on Belarusian society, and possibly on Lukashenka himself. That is, it is actually an occupation corps on the territory of Belarus itself", - believes the spokesman of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications of the Republic of Belarus. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372725
Exocet25fr
10-10-22, 08:43 AM
https://sun1-21.userapi.com/impg/Ki5QCEKn0GGDV8QAyH8c3qSQb4dvu-NOncnY9g/JrrfzoGhZsQ.jpg?size=1820x1145&quality=95&sign=a08b519981133910b4976475908419ec&type=album
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 09:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4w4ryh9VzU
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 09:11 AM
Russia’s attacks on civilians of Ukraine are war crimes, - head of European Council Michel
Russia’s missile attack on Ukrainian civilians is a war crime.
This was stated by the chairman of the European Council, Charles Michel, Censor.NET informs with reference to Interfax-Ukraine.
"Russia's appalling attacks on Kyiv and other cities across Ukraine show the Kremlin's desperation. These indiscriminate attacks on civilians are war crimes. Commitment to supporting Ukraine and holding the Russian regime accountable - we will discuss this with our G7 partners," Michel wrote on Twitter. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372740
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 09:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfVynPxssAg
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 11:00 AM
Ministry of Defense of Belarus stated that they "are not going to war" with Ukraine, unless they are "provoked"
The Minister of Defense of Belarus, Viktor Hryenin, made a separate statement in which he warned Ukraine not to take "wrong steps" and "provoke" in order to avoid war.
This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Belarus, Censor.NET reports.
"We note that our neighbors (Ukrainians) have become concerned today that aggressive actions may be taken by the armed forces of the Republic of Belarus. This is about the continuous release of information about the alleged preparation of an attack on our part. We had and still have one answer to this: no provoke us - we are not going to fight with you. We don't want to fight with Lithuanians, Poles, and even more so Ukrainians. If you don't want to and don't take the wrong steps, then there won't be a war," Hryenin said.
According to Hryenin, the armed forces of Belarus are focused only on the defense of the country. He threatened a "quick and tough" response in case of "provocations". Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372770
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 11:05 AM
By shelling Ukraine, Surovikin wants to show Putin "quick results", this is his style - Defense Intelligence
Missile strikes on the critical infrastructure of Ukraine is the style of work of the newly appointed commander of the Russian group in Ukraine, Serhii Surovikin.
Andriy Yusov, a representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense, stated this on the air of a nationwide telethon, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform.
Yusov noted that Sergey Surovikin, who was recently introduced as the new head of the Russian occupation army in Ukraine, is known for the fact that, while not serving in aviation, he headed the Russian Air Force and before that, the Russian air group in Syria.
"This is his style, the style of the new Gauleiter of the occupying army in Ukraine - to throw rockets at the infrastructure, in particular, the objects of the civilian infrastructure. He knows that planes fly and you can launch missiles from them. In fact, this is what they did in order to show that Putin's new personnel appointments in Russia have some significance, to show some quick results," said the representative of the Defense Intelligence.
According to him, this does not change anything strategically for Russia, the Russian Federation will lose, and Ukrainian territory will be liberated. "But this is another testimony to the whole world that Ukraine is fighting not just invaders, but a terrorist state. Not just a state sponsor of terrorism, but a state whose army carries out terrorist acts," Yusov emphasized.
He reminded that as a result of Russian missile strikes, critical infrastructure and civilian objects, including diplomatic institutions in the capital, were damaged.
"These are terrorist acts. Ukraine and the world must unite in order to overcome this terrorist state," the intelligence representative emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372773
Ministry of Defense of Belarus stated that they "are not going to war" with Ukraine, unless they are "provoked"
The Minister of Defense of Belarus, Viktor Hryenin, made a separate statement in which he warned Ukraine not to take "wrong steps" and "provoke" in order to avoid war.
This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Belarus, Censor.NET reports.
"We note that our neighbors (Ukrainians) have become concerned today that aggressive actions may be taken by the armed forces of the Republic of Belarus. This is about the continuous release of information about the alleged preparation of an attack on our part. We had and still have one answer to this: no provoke us - we are not going to fight with you. We don't want to fight with Lithuanians, Poles, and even more so Ukrainians. If you don't want to and don't take the wrong steps, then there won't be a war," Hryenin said.
According to Hryenin, the armed forces of Belarus are focused only on the defense of the country. He threatened a "quick and tough" response in case of "provocations". Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372770
I can smell a false flag operation is on its way
Markus
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 11:11 AM
Possibly but I was of the understanding the Belarus armed forces had previously refused to fight Ukraine, or something along those lines.
Possibly but I was of the understanding the Belarus armed forces had previously refused to fight Ukraine, or something along those lines.
I know hundreds if not thousands of young Belarusians has taken the trip to Ukraine to fight Russia.
I know some of you have mentioned that it would mean civil war in Belarus if Lukashenko order his troop to attack Ukraine.
Markus
I know hundreds if not thousands of young Belarusians has taken the trip to Ukraine to fight Russia.
I know some of you have mentioned that it would mean civil war in Belarus if Lukashenko order his troop to attack Ukraine.
MarkusFebruary 2022 initial deployment of the Russian forces:
Southwestern Belarus grouping (blocking contingent against Ukrainian forces in Western Ukraine):
located around Brest, Luninets, Baranovichi, Osipovichi and Minsk
including forces from the Northern Fleet (200th (Arctic) Motor Rifle Brigade, 61st Guards Naval Infantry Brigade) and the VDV (76th and 98th Guards airborne divisions), estimated strength of 6–7 battalion tactical groups
Southeastern Belarus grouping (Kyiv offensive direction):
located around Vepri, Elsin, Bragin, Khainini, Rechitsya and Mozir
including forces from the 5th, 35th and 36th Combined Arms Armies, estimated strength of 7–9 battalion tactical groups
The intel now is 6 BTG's good luck to the Belarusian army they are on their own, Putin can not provide many troops on that front. Also, those BTG's are stationed on Belarus western border protection against Poland Baltics countries accord Belarus MOD it is Putin trying to put pressure again on Belarus do not think Lukashenko is stupid, he knows it is lost. The best answer is that NATO send more troops to Poland to answer this.
It seems Musk plays more and more Putler's game. It is being reported that his Starlink satellites more and more often fail in the midst of ongoing combat operations in enbattled regions, with desastrous conseqeunces for the Urkainian side.
I dont trust Musk. He turned his coats in many regards one time too often, for my taste and patience. In the end its "Musk first" for him.I am kindly inviting @elonmusk to Ukraine, to Kyiv - to better understand the context, and have a productive night of thinking how to deescalate the Russo-Ukrainian war. I am happy to host him at my place, or maybe give him a drive around the city under shelling. https://twitter.com/dim0kq/status/1579369608905076736
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 01:01 PM
Russian missile strikes demonstrated extreme cruelty of Putin’s illegal war against Ukraine - Biden
The United States strongly condemns Russia’s current missile strikes on Ukrainian territory, particularly on Kyiv, and demands that Russia withdraw its troops.
This is stated in the statement of US President Joe Biden, reports Censor.NЕТ with reference to "Ukrainian truth".
"These attacks killed and injured civilians and destroyed targets without military necessity. They once again demonstrate the extreme brutality of Putin's illegal war against the Ukrainian people," the statement said.
Biden said these attacks only further reinforce the U.S. commitment to helping the people of Ukraine for as long as necessary.
"Together with our allies and partners, we will continue to make Russia pay the price for its aggression, hold Putin and Russia accountable for its atrocities and war crimes, and provide the support necessary for Ukrainian forces to defend their country and their freedom," the statement said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372802
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 01:03 PM
Duda called Zelensky after urgent consultations with Stoltenberg
The President of Poland Andrzej Duda in a telephone conversation with the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky stated the need to isolate Russia.
"We talked about the need to isolate Russia, which today committed mass war crimes. Such crimes, I would like to remind you, have no precedent and are persecuted all over the world. Today and tomorrow I will discuss this with other leaders," Duda said, Censor.NET reports with a link on the European truth.
The Office of the Polish President also reported that Duda held urgent consultations with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.
"The conversation was about today's Russian bombing of civilian objects in Ukraine," the report says.
Stoltenberg wrote that the conversation with Duda concerned the continuation of NATO allies' support for Ukraine.
"Russia continues its unprovoked aggression against an independent sovereign state. We will stay the course," he wrote. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372791
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 01:07 PM
Ukraine will initiate recognition of Russia as sponsor of terrorism at G7 - Danilov
During the meeting of the G7 leaders, Ukraine will initiate the issue of recognizing the Russian Federation as a state sponsor of terrorism.
This was stated by the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov, on the air of the nationwide TV marathon "United News," when answering the question of what Ukraine will demand from the G7 leaders during the meeting initiated by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, reports Censor.NЕТ with reference to Ukrinform.
"As far as the G7 is concerned, I can tell you that the Russian Federation has proven time and again that it is directly a terrorist country. I would very much like our partners to stop this observation in the end - whether or not it is necessary to vote that the country is a sponsor of terrorism, but I believe that this country is a terrorist, and to have it recorded in many capitals of the world, in their parliaments already as a proven fact... Whether or not we will succeed - I cannot say, but if we do not knock, then nobody will open to us," Danilov noted.
He pointed out that all the President's initiatives since February 24 have greatly changed the attitude of the leaders of many countries towards Ukraine.
Danilov also expressed hope that not only the USA would decide to recognize Russia as a country sponsoring terrorism, but also other European countries. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3372806
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 01:16 PM
The hail of indiscriminate missile fire across Ukraine this morning was Russia's brutal payback for the attack on the Crimean bridge.
Russian President Vladimir Putin called it the response to an "act of terrorism" which he blamed on Ukraine.
But it was also Mr Putin's response to hawks in his own camp who have been growing increasingly restless with Russian losses in the war and increasingly loud with their calls for tougher action.
Those pro-Kremlin officials and TV hosts who were depressed and dejected just days ago are now cheering this assault on their neighbour, gloating and even dancing in social media posts as Ukraine grieves for its dead and picks through the wreckage of multiple attacks.
The barrage of missiles was Gen Sergei Surovikin's first day of work.
Now in charge of Russia's war effort, his appointment this weekend was a sop by Mr Putin to the hardliners.
The general's CV includes the indiscriminate Russian bombardment of Syria and the death of pro-democracy protesters in Moscow in 1991 during the attempted coup, so he was already being described as ruthless.
This morning matched his reputation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63205446
The hail of indiscriminate missile fire across Ukraine this morning was Russia's brutal payback for the attack on the Crimean bridge.
Russian President Vladimir Putin called it the response to an "act of terrorism" which he blamed on Ukraine.
But it was also Mr Putin's response to hawks in his own camp who have been growing increasingly restless with Russian losses in the war and increasingly loud with their calls for tougher action.
Those pro-Kremlin officials and TV hosts who were depressed and dejected just days ago are now cheering this assault on their neighbour, gloating and even dancing in social media posts as Ukraine grieves for its dead and picks through the wreckage of multiple attacks.
The barrage of missiles was Gen Sergei Surovikin's first day of work.
Now in charge of Russia's war effort, his appointment this weekend was a sop by Mr Putin to the hardliners.
The general's CV includes the indiscriminate Russian bombardment of Syria and the death of pro-democracy protesters in Moscow in 1991 during the attempted coup, so he was already being described as ruthless.
This morning matched his reputation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63205446All the Putin appointed generals are former Czech Georgia Syria butchers not surprised to see what happened this morning in Kyiv and more is coming these people are absolutely ruthless with no regard for human life.
Catfish
10-10-22, 01:26 PM
Russian logic.
Russia attacks and invades by a clear war of aggression. When the invaded country defends itself by destroying military support lines Russia calls it 'terrorist'.
To fight this 'terrorist' action the answer is attacking the whole country and civilian targets.
Of course if a dictator feels insulted the answer is brutal but silly.
Putin himself has ordered the construction of the Kerch Bridge and he himself drove the first truck over it, big media event in Russia.
Too bad for him, but then Tass and Pravda probably paint this as a gesture of goodwill, just like with snake island back then.
Is Putin aware what bullsh!t he talks, towards his people and the world? Does *anyone* in the world
believe all his crap?
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 01:34 PM
Russian logic.
Russia attacks and invades by a clear war of aggression. When the invaded country defends itself by destroying military support lines Russia calls it 'terrorist'.
To fight this 'terrorist' action the answer is attacking the whole country and civilian targets.
Of course if a dictator feels insulted the answer is brutal but silly.
Putin himself has ordered the construction of the Kerch Bridge and he himself drove the first truck over it, big media event in Russia.
Too bad for him, but then Tass and Pravda probably paint this as a gesture of goodwill, just like with snake island back then.
Is Putin aware what bullsh!t he talks, towards his people and the world? Does *anyone* in the world
believe all his crap?
Very true :yep:
Russian logic.
Russia attacks and invades by a clear war of aggression. When the invaded country defends itself by destroying military support lines Russia calls it 'terrorist'.
To fight this 'terrorist' action the answer is attacking the whole country and civilian targets.
Of course if a dictator feels insulted the answer is brutal but silly.
Putin himself has ordered the construction of the Kerch Bridge and he himself drove the first truck over it, big media event in Russia.
Too bad for him, but then Tass and Pravda probably paint this as a gesture of goodwill, just like with snake island back then.
Is Putin aware what bullsh!t he talks, towards his people and the world? Does *anyone* in the world
believe all his crap?I am afraid there are Dutch far-right politician Thierry Baudet "I hope Russia will win, I think it’s fantastic that someone like Putin exists" lucky he is a nobody and has no power.
Russian logic.
Is Putin aware what bullsh!t he talks, towards his people and the world? Does *anyone* in the world
believe all his crap?
I have a few FB-friends who think he is a great leader.
Markus
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 01:43 PM
I have a few FB-friends who think he is a great leader.
Markus
Time to consider a review of FB friends me thinks :hmmm:
A known Belorussian source tells me:
“Russian soldiers are entering Belarus by the trainload. They’re traveling in cattle cars - just a huge quantity. Just waves of trains arriving.” Belorussian's news says Belarus doesn’t plan to attack Ukraine. However, if Ukraine attacks Belarus, then Ukraine will get “an immediate and harsh response.” Belarus reported that Ukraine had destroyed all bridges between the countries and that Ukraine was going to attack Belarus. https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1579504475202781184
Trainloads of unhappy conscripted cannon meat. What could possibly go wrong? North-west of Ukraine is like a dense forested area, this could easily be a bloodbath if they try to do something.
Jimbuna
10-10-22, 02:07 PM
I await with baited breath.
I await with baited breath.Nazis at the Czech border, 1938
"-Why so much soldiers?
- In the event of a provocation.
- And if there are no provocations?
- How could it not be with so many soldiers?"
Belarus reported that Ukraine had destroyed all bridges between the countries and that Ukraine was going to attack Belarus. https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1579504475202781184
Curious logic they have. Ukraine destroyed the bridges that they would need to attack and that's a sign that they will attack. :hmmm:
Russia claims it is still open to a diplomatic solution to the war in Ukraine. But according to the Russian Foreign Ministry, the U.S. is throwing a spanner in the works "by fueling Ukrainian warmongering." "The longer Washington encourages Kiev, rather than preventing acts of terror by Ukrainian saboteurs, the more difficult it becomes to reach a diplomatic solution," reads a statement from the ministry. Russia holds Ukraine responsible for the devastating explosion on the Crimean Bridge this weekend.
Definitely 2 + 2 = 5
Commander Wallace
10-10-22, 02:52 PM
Russia claims it is still open to a diplomatic solution to the war in Ukraine. But according to the Russian Foreign Ministry, the U.S. is throwing a spanner in the works "by fueling Ukrainian warmongering." "The longer Washington encourages Kiev, rather than preventing acts of terror by Ukrainian saboteurs, the more difficult it becomes to reach a diplomatic solution," reads a statement from the ministry. Russia holds Ukraine responsible for the devastating explosion on the Crimean Bridge this weekend.
Definitely 2 + 2 = 5
The only " diplomatic solution " Soviet Russia is interested in is the total capitulation and emasculation of the Ukraine and it's surrender. Such a move would make a mockery of the struggles and sacrifices of the Ukraine armed forces and It's citizens.
The U.S did nothing more than give the Ukraine the means to defend themselves. Other than that, the Ukraine can think for itself. In Soviet Russia, no one is allowed to think for themselves.
Saw a couple of rumours of Russian build-up in Belarus. Since you tracked their build-up in November-February I wondered if you'd any information on this now? https://twitter.com/tretyamirovaya/status/1579534717183217664
Answer:
Since March, we've been tracking Belarusian military activity. There are some important points to be made. Apart from @MotolkoHelp and @Rochan_CONS, no one else does this as the Belarusian Armed Forces are relatively weak, and apart from Luka's rhetoric, there's nothing there. The Belarusian Armed Forces are largely a mobilizations force. Their manpower is at around 50-60% of the required peacetime strength. To reach 100%, they'd need to mobilize at least 20k men. Operationally, they are subordinated to the Russian Western MD. They don't have Land Forces Command, and they do not conduct exercises above battalion level, but even these are rare. They mostly train platoons and companies. More forces are deployed for Russia-organised drills such as Zapad or Union Shield. Currently, they maintain some presence near the border with Ukraine (1k km long). Size varies depending on the source. Ukrainians claim Belarusians deployed up to 7 BTGs, but we assess these are actually CTGs, which would correspond with their level of training and capability But,since April, Belarusian exercise tempo has been the highest since the end of the Cold War. Minsk tested all capabilities as if it was preparing to go to war: the creation of territorial def battalions, mobilisation, and postal service to deliver orders (and draft notices?) You name it, they tested it. The "problem" is that these drills were, again, small and did not usually go beyond a city or an oblast. But it allowed them to see what works and what does not. There are three possible explanations behind this behaviour: 1 ) Prep for a NATO attack 2) To tie up Ukrainian forces near the border to prevent their deployment to other areas 3) Prep for an attack on Ukraine. 4) Domestic politics. Maintaining a state of heightened anxiety is often useful for tyrants. Makes them seem necessary, and serves to justify internal repression. https://twitter.com/OrmeStephan/status/1579562455562612737
The only " diplomatic solution " Soviet Russia is interested in is the total capitulation and emasculation of the Ukraine and it's surrender. Such a move would make a mockery of the struggles and sacrifices of the Ukraine armed forces and It's citizens.
The U.S did nothing more than give the Ukraine the means to defend themselves. Other than that, the Ukraine can think for itself. In Soviet Russia, no one is allowed to think for themselves.The mathematically incorrect phrase "two plus two equals five" (2 + 2 = 5) is best known in English for its use in the 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, as a possible statement of Ingsoc (English Socialism) philosophy, like the dogma "War is Peace", which the Party expects the citizens of Oceania to believe is true. In writing his secret diary in the year 1984, the protagonist Winston Smith ponders if the Inner Party might declare that "two plus two equals five" is a fact. Smith further ponders whether or not belief in such a consensus reality makes the lie true.
Biden promises Ukraine ‘advanced air defence systems’ after Russian missile strikes
The US president is pledging to provide Kyiv ‘with the support needed to defend itself, including advanced air defence systems ‘ President Joe Biden on Monday told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky the US would provide Ukraine’s armed forces with “advanced air defence systems” and other self-defence support after Russian missile strikes hit a range of civilian targets in Kyiv and other Ukrainian cities.
A White House readout of a phone call between the two leaders said Mr Biden “expressed his condemnation” of the latest Russian attacks and “conveyed his condolences to the loved ones of those killed and injured”.
Earlier on Monday, Mr Biden said in a statement that the US “strongly condemns” the Russian missile strikes which Vladimir Putin’s government unleashed after Ukrainian intelligence services blew up a Russian-built bridge connecting Russian territory with Crimea, the Ukrainian region which Moscow illegally invaded in 2014.
The cruise missile attacks struck numerous targets during rush hour in Kyiv, causing damage and casualties at such places as a public park, a children’s play area and a pedestrian bridge, with at least eight Ukrainian lives lost.
In a statement, Mr Biden said the attacks “killed and injured civilians and destroyed targets with no military purpose” and “once again demonstrate the utter brutality” of the Russian leader’s “illegal war on the Ukrainian people”. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-ukraine-russia-missile-strikes-b2199674.html
Otto Harkaman
10-10-22, 04:04 PM
Iranian suicide drones out of Belarus? See later part of Sub Brief
https://youtu.be/fXlwjvSn7Gk
https://youtu.be/9tQ1jYbhxNc
Iranian suicide drones out of Belarus? See later part of Sub Brief
https://youtu.be/fXlwjvSn7Gk
I'd think if it were drones they'd be a lot more specific in their choices of targets. Hitting city squares and parked cars seems more like a ballistic missile to me.
Jimbuna
10-11-22, 04:25 AM
The only " diplomatic solution " Soviet Russia is interested in is the total capitulation and emasculation of the Ukraine and it's surrender. Such a move would make a mockery of the struggles and sacrifices of the Ukraine armed forces and It's citizens.
The U.S did nothing more than give the Ukraine the means to defend themselves. Other than that, the Ukraine can think for itself. In Soviet Russia, no one is allowed to think for themselves.
Precisely :yep:
Jimbuna
10-11-22, 04:35 AM
Air raid sirens have gone off again in Kyiv and across Ukraine, a day after Russia launched some of the worst attacks there for months.
People have been advised to stay in shelters, and not to ignore air raid sirens.
Ukrainian TV is reporting Ukrainian forces as saying they have shot down four Russian missiles this morning.
The southern city of Zaporizhzhia was shelled again overnight, with one dead and buildings damaged, the regional governor says.
Work is under way to restore electricity supplies cut by Monday's bombings in various regions of Ukraine.
The United States and other G7 industrialised countries are due to hold a virtual meeting later to discuss their response to the attack.
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Monday's strikes were retaliation for Saturday's attack on a key bridge linking Russia with occupied Crimea.
Jimbuna
10-11-22, 04:40 AM
Belarusian forces group with Russian troops on border
Belarusian forces have grouped with Russian troops on its borders as a defensive measure, Belarus' defence ministry has said.
"All the activities currently being carried out are aimed at responding adequately to actions near our borders," the defence ministry said.
President Alexander Lukashenko said yesterday that he had ordered troops to deploy with Russian forces near Ukraine in response to what he said was a "clear threat to Belarus from Kyiv and its backers in the West".
Jimbuna
10-11-22, 04:47 AM
Russian hawks gloat over 'payback' for Crimea bridge attack
The hail of indiscriminate missile fire across Ukraine was Russia's brutal payback for the attack on the Crimean bridge.
Russian President Vladimir Putin called it the response to an "act of terrorism" which he blamed on Ukraine.
But it was also Putin's response to hawks in his own camp who have been growing increasingly restless with Russian losses in the war and increasingly loud with their calls for tougher action.
Those pro-Kremlin officials and TV hosts who were depressed and dejected just days ago are now cheering this assault on their neighbour, gloating and even dancing in social media posts as Ukraine grieves for its dead and picks through the wreckage of multiple attacks.
The barrage of missiles was Gen Sergei Surovikin's first day of work. Now in charge of Russia's war effort, his appointment this weekend was a sop by Putin to the hardliners.
The general's CV includes the indiscriminate Russian bombardment of Syria and the death of pro-democracy protesters in Moscow in 1991 during the attempted coup, so he was already being described as ruthless.
Monday's assault matched his reputation.
Jimbuna
10-11-22, 05:01 AM
Russia looks like it's running out of weapons, UK intelligence chief says
Russia appears to be running out of weapons and ammunition after its missile strikes on Ukraine yesterday, the head of the UK's intelligence service has said.
GCHQ chief Sir Jeremy Fleming tells BBC Radio 4's Today programme that he believes Russia is running short of munitions.
He also says the recent mobilisation efforts launched by President Vladimir Putin showed the country was short of soldiers too, adding: "It's certainly running short of friends."
Fleming says Russia and Russia's commanders are worried about the state of their military, describing them as "desperate".
"We can see that desperation at many levels inside Russian society and inside the Russian military machine. It certainly doesn't imply complacency."
But Fleming also acknowledges that Monday's attacks demonstrate it still has a very capable military operation.
He says the country can still launch missiles and it "has deep, deep stocks and expertise", but notes despite this Russia is still very broadly stretched in Ukraine.
Fleming is due to give a speech later today, where he is expected to also say Ukraine is turning the tide against exhausted Russian forces and that Putin's decision-making has proved to be flawed.
Jimbuna
10-11-22, 05:11 AM
Red Cross warns Russia on civilian lives
The International Committee of the Red Cross last night called for civilian lives and infrastructure in Ukraine to be protected.
In an implicit warning to Russia of its obligations under the Geneva Conventions, the ICRC said it was deeply concerned at the risk to civilian lives of the use of high explosives in populated areas.
It said: "Under international humanitarian law, the effects of hostilities on civilians and civilian infrastructure must be factored into all military operations.
"All possible measures must be taken to protect and spare civilian life and essential infrastructure like health facilities, housing, schools, power plants, and water supplies."
The statement came after a day of air strikes across Ukraine which appeared to target civilian areas, power and water supplies, and medical centres.
The Red Cross also warned that the disruption of these services as winter approaches could significantly increase humanitarian needs.
Jimbuna
10-11-22, 05:21 AM
Strikes targeting civilian infrastructure are war crimes, UN says
Russia may have violated the laws of war with its missile strikes yesterday, the United Nations has said.
A spokeswoman told reporters it was "gravely concerned" that some attacks "appear to have targeted critical civilian infrastructure".
She added that intentionally striking such targets "amounts to a war crime".
"We urge the Russian Federation to refrain from further escalation, and to take all feasible measures to prevent civilian casualties and damage to civilian infrastructure."
Ravina Shamdasani
OHCHR Spokeswoman
Jimbuna
10-11-22, 06:13 AM
No sign Russia considering nuclear weapons - GCHQ
There are no current signs that Russia is considering the use of nuclear weapons in the Ukraine war, the head of GCHQ has said.
Like other US and western officials recently, Sir Jeremy Fleming did not suggest there had been any signs of suspicious activity.
Speaking on Radio 4's Today programme, Sir Jeremy warned that any talk of nuclear weapons was "very dangerous".
GCHQ would hope to see "indicators" if Russia planned to use them, he said.
"Any talk of nuclear weapons is very dangerous and we need to be very careful of how we are talking about that.
"It's clear to me that whilst we might not like and in many ways abhor the ways the Russian military machine and President Putin are conducting this war, they are staying within the doctrine that we understand for their use, including for nuclear weapons."
He added: "I'm sure Putin's worried about the dangers of escalation. He thinks about those in different terms. But I think it is a sign that he has not reached for these other forms of waging war."
The comments come as the head of the intelligence agency plans to say in a speech on Tuesday that Ukraine is turning the tide against "exhausted" Russian forces.
He will say President Vladimir Putin's decision-making has proved "flawed".
"We know - and Russian commanders on the ground know - that their supplies and munitions are running out," Sir Jeremy will say in his speech at the annual Royal United Services Institute security lecture.
He will argue that the mobilisation of prisoners and inexperienced men "speaks of a desperate situation" - and will also directly criticise President Putin as isolated and making mistakes.
Speaking on Radio 4's Today programme about the state of the Russian military, Sir Jeremy said it was "running short of munitions" and "is certainly running short of friends".
"The word I have used is desperate," he said. "We can see that desperation at many levels inside Russian society and Russia's military machine."
But he warned that the missile attacks on targets across Ukraine on Monday showed Russia was still "very capable" of causing damage.
He added: "Russia's military machine can launch weapons, it has deep stocks and expertise. And yet, it is very broadly stretched in Ukraine."
The intelligence chief will also assert that the UK and its allies are at a defining moment when it comes to China.
The director of the intelligence, cyber and security agency will say the costs to Russia of the war in Ukraine - in terms of both people and equipment - are "staggering" as early gains are now reversed.
"With little effective internal challenge, his decision-making has proved flawed. It's a high stakes strategy that is leading to strategic errors in judgement."
Sir Jeremy also claims the Russian people are now starting to understand the problems caused by what he describes as Putin's "war of choice".
"They're seeing just how badly Putin has misjudged the situation," he will say.
"They're fleeing the draft, realising they can no longer travel. They know their access to modern technologies and external influences will be drastically restricted."
In a speech in March, Sir Jeremy said intelligence had showed some Russian soldiers in Ukraine had refused to carry out orders, sabotaged their own equipment and accidentally shot down one of their own aircraft.
The bulk of his lecture on Tuesday focuses on China. He will describe the UK as being at a "sliding doors moment" in which different paths taken will define the future.
He argues the Chinese Communist Party is aiming to manipulate the technology that underpins people's lives to embed its influence at home and abroad and provide opportunities for surveillance.
But the intelligence chief said he would not stop children using TikTok - which is owned by Chinese firm ByteDance - but said young people should be more aware of their personal data and how it could be shared.
"No, I wouldn't (stop children from using TikTok), but I would speak to my child about the way in which they think about their personal data on their device," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
"I think it's really important from a very early age that we understand that there is no free good here. When we are using these services we are exchanging our data for that and if it's proportionate and we're happy with the way that data is safeguarded then that's great.
"Make the most of that, make those videos, use TikTok - but just think before you do," he added.
He will also warn that China is seeking to create "client economies and governments" by exporting technology to countries around the world, saying these countries risk "mortgaging the future" by buying in Chinese technology with "hidden costs".
He will say this includes areas like: new standards for the internet which could provide tracking methods and greater government control; Chinese digital currencies - which could be used to monitor the transactions of users and try to evade the type of sanctions imposed on Russia; and plans for a Chinese satellite system, citing fears it could be used to track individuals.
Chinese control of these areas is not inevitable, he will say, adding: "Our future strategic technology advantage rests on what we as a community do next."
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