Elder Scrolls V in the works - direct sequel to Oblivion

[Spike88]

That interviewer lost all credibility at the end when he asked Todd if there was going to be werewolves in the game...

I found that a bit odd, as if he hasn't played Skyrim before. But Geoff is the face of gametrailers and does all the reviews and previews for the website. I know he mentioned werewolves in the Skyrim previews and I believe he talked about them in the Skyrim review. Maybe he meant to say "Will there be a focus on werewolves too, or new content?" but worded it wrong. Or maybe it was a slip of the brain, he does have a lot on his mind with E3.

[danlisa]

Sorry for the size.

Everything looks great except for one thing. Can you see that artifacting on the mountain side snow? Does anyone know what causes that? It's distance based, so when I move closer, the glitch moves away. Perhaps a gfx card setting or .ini tweak? :hmmm:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/TESV-2012-06-05-22-45-42-20-copy.jpg

[Skybird]

Looks almost like a moirée.

[Dowly]

@Danlisa

In your SkyrimPrefs.ini, try changing these to lines:

iBlurDeferredShadowMask from 1 to 32
fShadowBiasScale from 0.5000 to 1.5000Worked for someone who had the same problem.

[Spike88]

http://www.g4tv.com/videos/58929/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-dawnguard-dlc-e3-gameplay-demo/

Todd Howard: The DLC is for everyone who has supported us.

Morgan Webb: So when's this coming to other systems?
Todd Howard: Oh I have no idea.

Thanks Bethesda. I still think Howard is a prat.

Or simply Todd Howard: Thank you for buying our game. Don't have a 360? F YOU!

Dragon Bone weapons will be in.

And:

http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/uploads/new-werewolf-perk-tree-skyrim.jpg

[danlisa]

@Danlisa

In your SkyrimPrefs.ini, try changing these to lines:

iBlurDeferredShadowMask from 1 to 32
fShadowBiasScale from 0.5000 to 1.5000Worked for someone who had the same problem.

Thanks mate, that sorted it.:DL

[frau kaleun]

Dragon Bone weapons will be in.



Pffffft. I've had those for ages. :O:

[Takeda Shingen]

Pffffft. I've had those for ages. :O:

Which means that you will probably have to un-mod your game and start anew. Congratulations.

In terms of the roll-out, it was the same for New Vegas. Those DLCs will come to the other platforms shortly thereafter.

[Spike88]

In terms of the roll-out, it was the same for New Vegas. Those DLCs will come to the other platforms shortly thereafter.

As long as it's not like Fallout 3/Oblivion where we(ps3 users) had to wait for about a year.

[danlisa]

^ All Skyrim DLC is Xbox exclusive for 30 days, other platforms follow immediately afterwards. Look at this way, at least PS3 users will have 30 days of beta testing to decide if they will even bother with the DLC. I can't imagine it will be any different to the Fallout mess.

[Spike88]

^ All Skyrim DLC is Xbox exclusive for 30 days, other platforms follow immediately afterwards. Look at this way, at least PS3 users will have 30 days of beta testing to decide if they will even bother with the DLC. I can't imagine it will be any different to the Fallout mess.

I know about the 30 day business, first thing out of Bethesda's mouth when they announced the game. But Fallout 3's took more than 30 days to make it's way to PS3, so I'm just hoping that the end of the 30 day "exclusive" is when everyone else gets it. Not wait 30 days, and then wait some more. I don't know how long it took fallout NV DLC to make it over.


In reality this whole "exclusive" DLC is a finger to the customers.

It's like selling two bikes to two different customers, and giving one customers both wheels, and then telling the second customer that they can have the second wheel sometime in the future.

Kind of like those Ally commercials:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIDaEWwjcC8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4TVRPvFGt0&feature=related

[kiwi_2005]

Dear Creation Kit,

Suck a dick

-Dowly xxx

(or "how I tried for 3 days to make a new world space without luck because nothing flippin works")

Yea I gave up on it, too buggy lost a dungeon that took me days to complete. Last resort CK refused to load up just crashes windows everytime where I have to reboot. :dead:

I'm reading here about DLC and an expansion gonna keep an eye out as I dont play Skyrim as much.

[Ducimus]

xbox console kiddies, always get new dlc exclusively for awhile. I wonder how much Microsoft pays developers for that.

[Dowly]

In reality this whole "exclusive" DLC is a finger to the customers.

Yup, especially to the PC customers who have been keeping their games alive
all these years with mods. :shifty:

[frau kaleun]

Which means that you will probably have to un-mod your game and start anew. Congratulations.


I revisit mods/patches/updates whenever I start a new character, and I only play one at a time. If I get Dawnguard it won't be until it's been out for a while and I can see from online discussions how mods are gonna work with it (and how it's working overall). I would probably start a new game/character for it anyway, so it's no biggie.

I may not get it at all until a GOTY edition is released that includes all available expansions, or it becomes necessary to have it in order to add some later DLC that looks more interesting. Vampires and vampire hunting as the focal point of a new set of quests just doesn't appeal to me very much. OTOH, I may be swayed by the reactions and experiences of other people who are playing it, so who knows?

[Skybird]

So far I only have a Steam account for playing the game. But to buy DLC, I would need to beef that up with a banking account, right, and my banking data on their servers, eh?

No chance that will ever happen. Dream on, Steam.

Maybe later, maybe as a collection with several other DLCs like Knight Of The Nine for Oblivion, they bring it out via DVD as well. And wasn'T it with Fallout's modules like that, too? First DLC, then DVD? Sure it was. I have the GOTY box, it'S all there.

If it does not happen, my money will happily stay with me.

[Ducimus]

So far I only have a Steam account for playing the game. But to buy DLC, I would need to beef that up with a banking account, right, and my banking data on their servers, eh?

No chance that will ever happen. Dream on, Steam.


They don't store your credit/debit card data unless you ask them to. Although the option to store the data when making a purchase is checked my default. I uncheck it every purchase I make.

[Skybird]

FB users recently also thought that when they uncheck something, the company would not carry out the linked option. As we know by now, they were wrong.

Playstation leak, anyone?

Sensible data and banking data is something you should be extremely hesitent to trade via the web. And data-collectors you should not trust when they give you options - NEVER.

[Spike88]

FB users recently also thought that when they uncheck something, the company would not carry out the linked option. As we know by now, they were wrong.

Playstation leak, anyone?

Sensible data and banking data is something you should be extremely hesitent to trade via the web. And data-collectors you should not trust when they give you options - NEVER.

I had my credit card stored on PSN when it leaked, and nothing happened. And anyone who didn't have PSN store the credit card information was unaffected.

[BossMark]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/rothwellwhite1/ScreenShot6.jpg
Lisa wondering and just about to ask why the Falkreath graveyard is so full

[Takeda Shingen]

Really? Vampires are the single most boring trope in modern fantasy and horror be it literature, television, movies or computer games. The attraction of those poncey goth uber-twats is lost on me.

Doubt I'm going to be buying it unless it's very, very cheap.

Actually these are the Volkihar; the infamous ice vampires of Skyrim mentioned in Immortal Blood. I was kind of surprised that they did not appear in the stock game but I am happy about their appearance in Skyrim. I am happy to see that they are not abandoning lore.

[Egan]

They're still all blood-sucky, though? Doesn't do it for me at all. Besides, didn't they already do a vampire expansion for Morrowind, or am I thinking of werewolves?

Has there been any word on whether or not they plan to do a full sized expansion for the game, or is DLC all the way now? I guess these days there isn't a major amount of difference.

Not bothered at the moment either way. I just got the Wabberjack and I'm enjoying the strangeness of turning people into rabbits quite a bit.

[Takeda Shingen]

They're still all blood-sucky, though? Doesn't do it for me at all. Besides, didn't they already do a vampire expansion for Morrowind, or am I thinking of werewolves?

Has there been any word on whether or not they plan to do a full sized expansion for the game, or is DLC all the way now? I guess these days there isn't a major amount of difference.

Not bothered at the moment either way. I just got the Wabberjack and I'm enjoying the strangeness of turning people into rabbits quite a bit.

Bloodmoon was a werewolf expansion. However, Morrowind did have vampire clans that you could join; something that was unfortunately absent in Oblivion, so I am happy to see it return. As for Dawnguard, it is reputed to be about the same size as Shivering Isles in terms of content. Given the size of every Bethesda DLC after SI (see F3 and New Vegas), I would say that this is a safe bet.

[Dowly]

The team behind the Nehrim total conversion for Oblivion are doing a TC called Enderal for Skyrim. :rock:
http://enderal.de/?lang=en#contentInfo

Played a bit of Nehrim prior to Skyrim's release and loved it. :yeah:

[BossMark]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/rothwellwhite1/ScreenShot2-1.jpg
Ouch that's got to hurt :D

[frau kaleun]

Ouch that's got to hurt :D

Didn't you know? Heat therapy is the standard Skyrim cure for lingering pain due to arrows taken in the kneecapular regions.

[Kapitän Schneider]

Anyone downloaded Dawnguard on the Xbox today?

[Spike88]

Anyone downloaded Dawnguard on the Xbox today?

There are only one or two Subsim users who have 360s. I'm personally hoping we'll get some info when it will be released for everyone else in the near future.

[Takeda Shingen]

Dead Money was delayed 30 days for the other systems and PC, so I suspect that this will be the same thing. Also, if it follows the New Vegas release dates, it will be the only exclusive DLC release, so we should not have to wait for the others. Hopefully.

[mookiemookie]

Yep, it's going to be at least 30 days. Microsoft and Bethesda have a deal where XBox gets DLCs exclusive for 30 days before any other platform.

[BossMark]

Yep, it's going to be at least 30 days. Microsoft and Bethesda have a deal where XBox gets DLCs exclusive for 30 days before any other platform.
30 bloody days that is scandalous :wah:

[mookiemookie]

30 bloody days that is scandalous :wah:

(Bethesda looks down on you from the pile of cash Microsoft paid them) "It doesn't look that way from up here!"

[Kapitän Schneider]

Well it turns out that Dawnguard is more bugged than any other past DLC release Bethesda has ever released. Congratulations BUGesda, you've nearly milked the cow dry with your piss poor bug quality control.

[Takeda Shingen]

Honestly, if you are playing this sort of game on a console then you're doing it wrong. The bugs will be ironed out by the time it comes to PC. Mark me as not concerned. Bethesda has been awesome for a long, long time.

[Ducimus]

Honestly, if you are playing this sort of game on a console then you're doing it wrong. The bugs will be ironed out by the time it comes to PC. Mark me as not concerned. Bethesda has been awesome for a long, long time.

Not to mention consoles lack mods. That's half the fun right there, user created content.

[Falkirion]

There are only one or two Subsim users who have 360s. I'm personally hoping we'll get some info when it will be released for everyone else in the near future.
Well I'm one of the owners then :P But I haven't booted my XBox for a good while. Skyrim needs to played on PC to get the best out of it.

[kiwi_2005]

the pc version is coming out later right? Tho im not really into this vampire thing but will give it a run.

[d@rk51d3]

Honestly, if you are playing this sort of game on a console then you're doing it wrong. The bugs will be ironed out by the time it comes to PC. Mark me as not concerned. Bethesda has been awesome for a long, long time.


Been playing it on PC since it came out, and it still has bugs.

Yesterday I picked it up on PS3. I'm surprised, but I'm actually liking it on PS3 better. Granted, there's no user mods available, but I've never used them anyhow.

[Kapitän Schneider]

Honestly, if you are playing this sort of game on a console then you're doing it wrong. The bugs will be ironed out by the time it comes to PC. Mark me as not concerned. Bethesda has been awesome for a long, long time.


I have got this game on PC. I've seen on other forums the complaints coming out about Dawnguard. Yes Bethesda have been awesome for a long time. But when it comes to fixing thing's they just can't do it. The Nav Mesh bug is still there after 3 games, if anyone is familliar with Fallout New Vegas and it's Problems will realise by the time we PC and Playstaion players will get it, it still won't be fixed. Hell that's why we got the 1.6 Patch.

[Arclight]

I'm sure everything will be perfectly fine after a few patches. Like always.


Finally got my chance to dispatch a dragon in 1 fell, er, sting.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/ScreenShot32-1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/ScreenShot33.jpg

And still, it is all so remarkably lovely.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/ScreenShot34-1.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/ScreenShot36-1.jpg

[Takeda Shingen]

I have got this game on PC. I've seen on other forums the complaints coming out about Dawnguard. Yes Bethesda have been awesome for a long time. But when it comes to fixing thing's they just can't do it. The Nav Mesh bug is still there after 3 games, if anyone is familliar with Fallout New Vegas and it's Problems will realise by the time we PC and Playstaion players will get it, it still won't be fixed. Hell that's why we got the 1.6 Patch.

New Vegas, while indeed published by Bethesda, was developed by Obsidian by a number of members of the original Fallout team. That aside, I did not find the game all that buggy. Neither did I find Fallout 3, Oblivion, or for that matter, Skyrim. Could be your system.

[BossMark]

Dawnguard full of bugs? now why am I not surprised :hmmm:

[danlisa]

Dawnguard full of bugs? now why am I not surprised :hmmm:

Nobody should be and anyone who thinks that Bethesda will fix those before they hit the PC/PS3 are deluded.

Bethesda/ZeniMax only care for cash + deadlines. Let's take patch v1.60 for example, it was in Beta status on the PC for over a month. Bugs and issues were found and yet Bethesda released the same (unfixed) patch on the Xbox purely to allow Dawnguard to go ahead.

Every patch to date has followed this method, release on PC, gather bug list from the 'willing to pay' beta testers, make note, release bugged patch on other platforms anyway weeks or months later + reduce draw distance and LOD. :yeah:

"I used to be a trusting Bethesda fan, until I took a lie to the face"

Never again.

[Takeda Shingen]

Okay. Have fun not playing the game. Be sure to share your experiences.

[Ducimus]

Bethesda/ZeniMax only care for cash + deadlines..

Name one Information Technology company where that isn't the primary focus. Yeah i put Game development companies in with regular IT companies because they develop software for computers. Game developers aren't in the business they're in as a charity or community service. They only care about their reputations or customer relations if it effects their bottom line. Cash. If it doesn't effect that, they aren't concerned.

[Drewcifer]

"I used to be a trusting Bethesda fan, until I took a lie to the face"

Never again.

Oh. Well if you think Beth is bad.... you'll love EA. :salute:

[kiwi_2005]

Getting back into skyrim, resurrecting my main thats only lvl 39, i read somewhere we want at least a lvl 40 to play the DLC Dawngaurd when its out for pc dont know if thats right but gonna lvl my orc up to 50 at least. Catching up on some mods ive found tonight the SkyMoMod and this bags & pouches mod which looks cool when on our characters.

[Dowly]

The lvl40 recommendation seems a bit high to me, considering the first time I beat the main story on master difficulty and as a dual wielder, I was lvl 33-34. :hmmm:

[Oberon]

Oh. Well if you think Beth is bad.... you'll love EA. :salute:

And then there's Cliffs of Dover.... :dead:

[kiwi_2005]

I don't know whether its worth downloading this High Resolution pack with my pc specs, might make it chug a bit:hmmm:

intel Xeon 5130 @2.00ghz (2 processors)
4gigs ram
GF 9800 GT 512 ram
Win 7 Ult 64bit
- and just for that little more speed :haha:. IOBit Game Boaster (from IOB Advance System Care program)

[Dowly]

I don't know whether its worth downloading this High Resolution pack with my pc specs, might make it chug a bit:hmmm:

intel Xeon 5130 @2.00ghz (2 processors)
4gigs ram
GF 9800 GT 512 ram
Win 7 Ult 64bit
- and just for that little more speed :haha:. IOBit Game Boaster (from IOB Advance System Care program)

I just used the high res mods instead. :yep:

[kiwi_2005]

I just used the high res mods instead. :yep:

Hi res mods... ok will look into it. :up:

yea was just reading the specs for the hi resolution pack, my video cards ram is to low :/\\!!

Experience The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim as you've never seen it before with the Skyrim High-Resolution Texture Pack. Make sure your system requirements exceed Skyrim's recommended specs before attempting to install, including Windows Vista or 7 operating system, a minimum of 4GB of system RAM and a DirectX 9.0c compatible NVIDIA or AMD ATI video card with at least 1 GB of RAM and the latest drivers.Oh yea found this video on top 5 crazy mods :haha:. Me Gusta moon, Osama Bin Laden Giant :haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwrel&NR=1&v=oufoWTEf-lw

edit:
oh man now ive seen it all, a lightsaber and jedi robes mod. Nice but i don't think i wanna use it, will kill the game play for me. :dead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCZvsmOcis8&feature=relmfu

[Takeda Shingen]

I use the Hi-Resolution pack and man my game looks gorgeous.

[Arclight]

That it does, the muddy textures were the one real complaint I had initially. No reason to lock PC players to toybox texture quality.


I've been digging around for mods a bit, but as usual I can't really find anything that fits my demanding standards... so I did my own. Which I will shamelessly plug here, of course:


Fixes:
- Skyforge steel dagger temperable
- Nord Hero bow temperable
- Scaled horn armor craftable & temperable
Changes:
- Nord Hero bow rebalanced to supple ancient Nord bow
- Silver weapons craftable & temperable
- Longbow and hunting bow craftable
Added:
- Composite bow
- Silver alloy ingot
- Silver alloy sword & greatsword
Notes:
- Steel smithing for silver
- Composite bow with steel smithing, Skyforge only
- Silver alloy smithing with Nord Hero smithing, Skyforge only

Started off just making a few bugfixes (Nord Hero bow and Skyforge dagger could not be improved, scaled horn armor neither craftable nor temperable) but it sort of snowballed into something more fleshed out. Addresses some perceived shortcomings and imbalance with a few select weapons, while adding some "new" ones to fill gaps.

Particularly, silver weapons are craftable and temperable, and the rough equivalent of a "Skyforge" version (+3 base damage) is added to extend their usefullness. In this case the fancy versions are actually a bit heavier though, since silver weapons have another inherent bonus: damage bonus against undead. Making them fairly heavy seemed like a good balance measure. Silver alloy weapons can be crafted at the Skyforge after completing the Companions quest line and make use of a new ingot, silver alloy (1 silver ore + 1 corundum ore). Normal silver weapons become craftable with steel smithing, and this perk also affects their tempering (the perk was altered to affect any weapon made of silver, its description was updated to reflect this in-game).

Something similar was done for bows: an improved version of the hunting bow. This composite bow can be crafted with steel smithing, but only at the Skyforge. The bow has +3 base damage, is slightly heavier but retains the draw speed of the hunting bow.

Since I'm no modeler, the added weapons share their models with the items they were based on.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=79429970

[kiwi_2005]

nice one Arklight, they all wep / crafting mods i presume.

My mod soup is a bit of a mess & i have one or two wep mods already which i don't even notice ingame i just installed them cause they were popular at the time. :haha: Now coming back to the game ive forgotten whats what setup.

Tried out the SkyrimMoMod (monster mod) adds more creatures ingame, plenty of them to fight now while running round outside makes a HUGE difference when heading to quest destinations (avoiding fast travel) Its good as before i would get bored killing the odd pack of wolves that i would end up fast traveling. Not now tho its a fight all the way with different groups/single monsters. Good practice before skyrim's mmo comes out. :haha:

A mess and some need updating, no ctd.
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh591/Frank101z/capture-20120701-105408.jpg

[kiwi_2005]

My latest mods. I know this is old news but heres my list and anything ive missed - forget about the hi res my pc wont handle it. But ive add the hi res mod insane_HD_water and Superl3_ENB that makes the gameworld colorful, everything bright and hunky dory. Man how i missed this game its good to be back been playing all night last couple of nights. :D

Best mods:
The_Asteria. your home a floating ship in the sky
Enhanced_High-Level_Gameplay. mobs npcs now no longer stop lvling up to 35. No more killing trolls a push over.
Build your own home. yep build it!
monster wars - monsters all over the place - trekking through skyrim no longer a walk in the park.
Morrowloot. makes it harder to get good gear, tho i already have good gear so this is disabled till i start a new character
sabre cat mount.
Skyui. UI upgrade
Dialogue menu - change the fonts/color
Wandering_Nazgul_Stay_off_the_Roads. - LOTR Nazgul wander round skyrim hunting you down, tho something not right i have met two of them and they are always walking with their horses following them?
JBS_trophy_hunting - play as a hunter/gatherer
WARZONES: Disabled. pc can't handle it. lol

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[mengle]

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[frau kaleun]

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/4250/boobplateulfric.jpg

[Iron Budokan]

Darn, I have been so busy I haven't had a chance to play Skyrim in more than a month. I really hope I can get back to this game soon. :D

[Arclight]

I recently did, hooked me right away again. Just trying to finish up all the quests that had been piling up... list doesn't seem to be getting any shorter really. And still so many locations I wandered by but never checked because I already had a ton of other stuff to do.


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/ScreenShot006.jpg

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[Takeda Shingen]

God, I hate Falmer. They always kill my followers.

[frau kaleun]

God, I hate Falmer. They always kill my followers.

I hate them more than just about anything.

My current character is in the low 50s and I have yet to explore my first Dwemer ruin. I expect it will be Alftand and then Blackreach in the MQ because I really, really don't like going in those places.

[reignofdeath]

I hate them more than just about anything.

My current character is in the low 50s and I have yet to explore my first Dwemer ruin. I expect it will be Alftand and then Blackreach in the MQ because I really, really don't like going in those places.

Just dont do it. They suck. They hurt. You will cry yourself to sleep at night because theyre so hard. And the Falmer... its an infestation.

[Skybird]

God, I hate Falmer. They always kill my followers.
Give them better armour, and nanny-manage them. I have not lost a single follower.

Get them silenced boots, then sneak in dungeons only.

And I use a mod that delays my own levelling, and makes opponents level up beyond the intiial maximum limit!

On Falmers I mst say, I kill them like anything else: easy, and fast. Once you have a good bow and a reasonable archery skill, they are nothing. Give enchanted items to your followers that improve their damage-by-archery levels. Keep your followers always properly dressed, as if you were caring for our own figure's safety. I tend to give the best armour items to them first, not to myself. I imroove their armour at every opportunity by smiothing, too.

My gang is a running horror show for the country now, it is almost pointless to play even with only one follower anymore - one follower still is a whole army now. They all can kill everything with just one arrow now when in a sneakling stand, and even when standing and the target being alarmed, it'S chnaces to survive the first hit still is meager. My girls never fall to the ground and take some breath, no matter what's being thrown at them. We are freaking awesome, every fight is a brutal massacre that is over the moment it has begun! :D

The game has serious design problems at higher levels. Even with my mod that delays my own uplevelling and neutralises the level cap of enemies, fighting alone a whole gang now is just picking my nose.

[frau kaleun]

Just dont do it. They suck. They hurt. You will cry yourself to sleep at night because theyre so hard. And the Falmer... its an infestation.

Oh, I've been in Dwemer ruins and Falmer lairs before. MANY times. Probably most of them at least once. This character ain't my first time at the rodeo.

I just hate them that much. Even at level 54 with OPed armor and weapons and Muffle boots and 100 Sneak, when I know from experience that there isn't a Falmer in Skyrim I can't sneak up on and one-shot from a distance. I *still* shudder involuntarily when I consider the possibility of being anywhere near them. HATE HATE HATE them. IMO they are by far the creepiest thing in the whole game.

[Takeda Shingen]

Give them better armour, and nanny-manage them. I have not lost a single follower.

Get them silenced boots, then sneak in dungeons only.

I play stealth characters almost exclusively. The real problem is that the Falmer, unlike most other humanoid enemies, use poison. So, if your followers go down on one knee, they will oftentimes die because the poison continues to take effect, armor or no. When you are a ranged character, and they start to detect you, and that follower of your's starts that suicide charge (you all know what I am talking about), there sometimes isn't a thing you can do to save them. Especially in a place like Blackreach.

[Skybird]

I play stealth characters almost exclusively. The real problem is that the Falmer, unlike most other humanoid enemies, use poison. So, if your followers go down on one knee, they will oftentimes die because the poison continues to take effect, armor or no. When you are a ranged character, and they start to detect you, and that follower of your's starts that suicide charge (you all know what I am talking about), there sometimes isn't a thing you can do to save them. Especially in a place like Blackreach.

There is a mod for improving followers that I use, and I love it. It allows you to poick up to three followers in one group, also use hoprses for all. It allows you to scan the statistics and skill values, so you can see where there strengths and weaknesses are and at what level they are and their armour rating. It allows to give them additional commands, and to tell them whether they should favour one or two handed weapons, two daggers, archery, magic plus sword, and so on. It also gives you a quick command to tell them that they should always equip best equipment/armour, you know that they often switch back to default when you entered a new cell in the game. You can also tell them to hand over all equipment in one rush. It is very good a mod.

If you do not use it, give orders to followers. When I was on default, I left them behind in dungeons, usually in halls or big crossroads with plenty of space. I then advanced alone and enaged in stealth attacks. If I was successful in mowing them all down, I went back and picked up my gal. If I was not so successful, I retreated while staying engaged, at the location where my gal was waiting, and when I had arrived there I possibly had shot down one or two enemies more. What was left then, my follower took care of, with plenty of space around so that I could stay behind her and take care of my own business as needed. The distance between you and the follower should be not too short, so that even when he/she starts to go on rampage still some time will go by before your battletankl appears on the scene.

Give them health potions, I can see that they sometime consume them - the inventory shows. I am not sure aboiut anti-poison, though, but I think I saw these disappearing from the inventory as well. But I am not sure. the important thing are health potions, it allows them to compensate poison effects.

The follower mod is one of these, cannot say right now which one, I have all three active:
- XCE - Xenius Character Enhancement
- Amazing Follower Tweaks
- General Fixes to Followers

the levelling mod is
- HigherLevelEnemies

These mods I use:

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3577/fsscr020u.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/fsscr020u.jpg/)

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1998/fsscr020l.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/fsscr020l.jpg/)

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6287/fsscr021.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/fsscr021.jpg/)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/844/fsscr022.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/fsscr022.jpg/)

[Takeda Shingen]

Well, no, you won't have any problems if you travel with a small army of followers. But, yes, I do miss giving meaningful commands to mine. I was hoping that something like the Companion Wheel from New Vegas would have made it's way into Skyrim, but no joy. :down:

[Arclight]

Always tell them to wait at a dungeon entrance. They just cramp my style. Lot easier to sneak around. :yep:

[Skybird]

Well, no, you won't have any problems if you travel with a small army of followers.
Well, from some level on it does not matter whether you have a full gang, just one, or none. Even when monsters level up along with you.

[frau kaleun]

I'm using UFO, altho I rarely have multiple followers it's worth it for the other stuff it does.

Like Sky's mod it lets followers ride horses when you ride (if a follower horse is available), lets you tell them to "train" which levels them up to your level (including their individual skill stats). It also gives complete control over their inventory, meaning you can remove their crappy default gear if you have something better to give them.

It also includes 4 commmands that work like Shouts and are added to the Shout menu - they let you order all followers to stop fighting, relax, wait, or... something else, I can't remember. The only one I really use is Stop Fighting, which is great if you are trying to get from one place to another and your follower hones in on some "threat" that you don't care about and would prefer to outrun.

I was doubtful when I first tried it because it seemed so complicated but I wouldn't do without some kind of follower mod now that gives me those or similar options.

[Skybird]

I'm using UFO, altho I rarely have multiple followers it's worth it for the other stuff it does.
I usually leave them at dungeon entrances. You see, I just like to have all that beauty around. :D At level 40 now and maximum gear, it does not make a difference whether I fight alone or with a group - no enemy has a chance anyway.


Like Sky's mod it lets followers ride horses when you ride (if a follower horse is available), lets you tell them to "train" which levels them up to your level (including their individual skill stats). It also gives complete control over their inventory, meaning you can remove their crappy default gear if you have something better to give them.
Well, it keeps coming back over time. A real PITA. Or does your mod supress this reliably now?

[kiwi_2005]

Ive stuffed up the marriage thing, i use that command 'divorce master' after downloading those bat command files and adding them into skyrim folder then ingame click on wife and type in divorce master and shes no longer your wife. That worked but now I cannot marry another i get as far as arranging the marriage in riften and how he says come back tomorrow but it never triggers to the marriage ceremony. :/\\!!

Yea i got sick of my old wife, she was a good cook and knew how to make money but she let me walk all over her, that was her weakness so she had to go. So im single and cruising the skyrim streets for another :rotfl2:

[frau kaleun]

Well, it keeps coming back over time. A real PITA. Or does your mod supress this reliably now?

Yes, UFO allows access to their complete inventory, by allowing you to tell them that they could "dress better." Afterwards if you ask them to trade some things with you, everything they have will be there for you to manage, including their previously respawning and hidden "default" gear. If you take it from them it will never respawn unless you uninstall the mod.

There is still an issue with them sometimes equipping stuff that you give them to carry if it improves their armor or damage stats, or with equipping a basic version of an item when they have a custom improved one already in their inventory. But that's easy to manage, I mostly have them carry ingredients, books, and raw materials anyway. If I give them something and see them equip and I don't want that I just take the item back and give them something else (assuming I'm that desperate to unload some weight).

[Skybird]

Yes, UFO allows access to their complete inventory, by allowing you to tell them that they could "dress better." Afterwards if you ask them to trade some things with you, everything they have will be there for you to manage, including their previously respawning and hidden "default" gear. If you take it from them it will never respawn unless you uninstall the mod.

There is still an issue with them sometimes equipping stuff that you give them to carry if it improves their armor or damage stats, or with equipping a basic version of an item when they have a custom improved one already in their inventory. But that's easy to manage, I mostly have them carry ingredients, books, and raw materials anyway. If I give them something and see them equip and I don't want that I just take the item back and give them something else (assuming I'm that desperate to unload some weight).
To be clear here: the mod I use, amongst others has an "always equip best" option and a "let me chose your equipment" option, and I also can take away the default gear. Hower, after some entrances into different cells of the Skyrim world (entering a building for exmaple, or a dungeon), they tend to respawn these default items. I then have to tell every follower to wear best equipement, and then they wear the one I gave them - until they enter a new cell next time and respawned default gear gets worn again. :/\\!!

Your mod reliably supresses default gear respawning?

[frau kaleun]

Your mod reliably supresses default gear respawning?

:yep:

I've been using it on the last several playthroughs with many different followers, and yes. I have taken default armor and weapons away from them and given them better, and the default gear never respawns. From that point on they will only have what you have given them (or allowed them to keep) even if you dismiss them as followers.

All my housecarls are currently walking around my various homes dressed in fine clothes and boots, with a sword or axe hanging from their belts, as befits the devoted servant of an up and coming young noble. :O: Their "default" armor was removed by me, improved, and stored away in their rooms along with whatever bow and arrows and other traveling supplies I want them to have should I decide to take them along on an adventure someday.

From what I understand, when you invoke the "dress better" command their default inventory is removed completely, by which I mean they are no longer coded to have a default inventory at all. Everything is switched over to the inventory that you can see and trade with them. They still have the stuff they started out with, but you have access to it just like everything else and once you take it away it's gone unless you give it back.

That's why the mod has a special "in-game" uninstallation procedure - before you disable it, the default inventory for your followers has to be reset and returned to normal otherwise if you leave the game and take the mod out and reload you find your former followers walking around naked because they no longer have any default gear at all. The mod has to tell the game to start spawning/respawning it again before you remove the files that made it stop doing that.

[Skybird]

Must try that. The game itself even respawns default when using the console command to remove all items. And when I give them two equipement sets, they often respawned the first one given even if the second one was better.

UFO, via Steam, or is it from an independant site and must be installed manually?

[HunterICX]

UFO,

as frau said a solid mod if you want to customize your followers without problems, use it myself too.

I've got it from skyrim nexus

HunterICX

[Skybird]

:otried it this afternoon, but no joy.

I took all special equipment from by followers and stored it away, then dismissed them all from service. I then saved. I installed the new mod, and deactivated two other mods that are related to followers. I then went into tha game and recurited followers again. But the new additional commands did not do anything, and the one follower I forgot to skip before, could not be fired anymore. Also, I was missing some of the useful commands the other mod was giivng me, especially to tell followers in which way to fight. The "build camp" command also seemed to have gone, which is a nice one when using the frost mod.

I u-turned and returned to the old mods. My three babes are back, and despite that I need to tell them often to wear best armour, we all are a happy family again.

[frau kaleun]

I had some issues getting it to work right the first time around as well.

It's best not to tinker with most other mods that affect followers after you've installed UFO, unless you also uninstall UFO (using the correct in-game procedures first) and then reinstall it after you've made the other desired changes. Many other follower mods also conflict with it, or must load with it in a particular order otherwise there will be conflicts. I ran into the same thing - commands didn't work, or followers could not be dismissed or reacquired. If that's what's happening then you've either got a mod conflict somewhere or something went wrong with the installation.

There is also a possible issue (from what I've read) about some launchers not loading mods in the order you designate every time, not sure about all the details. The UFO modder recommends that after installing it you launch the game the first time from the Steam launcher, after checking your Data Files there to make sure they are in the correct load order. You only have to go as far as the main menu screen then you can exit and after that just restart the game from your launcher of choice if it isn't the default Steam one.

Not sure where you got your copy of it but there's a great deal of info on compatibility, conflicts, load order requirements, and other possible installation issues at the Nexus page for it (which is where I got it).

Edit: if you forgot to dismiss someone before installing UFO that can definitely cause problems. I always check my follower count in the console to make sure it's at zero before saving and doing anything with UFO. If it's not zero I set it to zero.

[Red October1984]

Now, I am a Skyrim addict! Bought it two days after christmas and havent looked back. I own all the Elder Scrolls games. Love every one except Arena and Daggerfall. Those games are impossible. IMPOSSIBLE! Skyrim is great. I play it on xbox so all this mod stuff....I have no idea about it. I just know one thing........Skyrim is amazing. :D :rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock: Oblivion was amazing. :D :rock::rock::rock::rock::rock: Morrowind was amazing (back in the day and still has its high points) :D :rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

[mengle]

At last found a girl i like to marry, hope i can get her to sense :hmmm:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6862/screenshot78739.jpg

[HunterICX]

At last found a girl i like to marry, hope i can get her to sense :hmmm:

Knock her on the head with a big club and drag her into your cave.

HunterICX

[Fincuan]

Knock her on the head with a big club and drag her into your cave.

Judging by her looks it'll be the other way around.

[HunterICX]

Judging by her looks it'll be the other way around.

Well...at least that would confirm her interest in him

HunterICX

[Red October1984]

I dont know about you guys, but i married Aela the Huntress..... :D Free archery training. Money. The works.... :up: :smug:

[Ducimus]

I head to change Aela's apperance in game. He mug reminds me of my freaking ex. So I turned her into a blond. :O: :haha:

[Takeda Shingen]

In the past I have married Lydia, Muiri, Mjoll, Brelyna Maryon, Camilla Valerius, Ysolda and Aela, depending on the type of character I am playing. Mjoll and Camilla were rendered somewhat more annoying because of their male stalkers hanging around my house. Overall, Aela and Brelyna were the most useful due to their potency as followers. Mjoll is a good follower too, but you have to take that Aerin around with you.

[kiwi_2005]

Finish The Grytewake legend quest (mod by wallice) where i have a viking ship for my home and Snorri Frostweather spirit that was to do with the story as a companion who is also a merchant. I can move my viking ship to any city that has water nearby. Not that i needed another home i have enough of them already but i think i'll make the ship my main one. :rock:

http://i48.tinypic.com/s6p43r.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/10xd6jo.jpg

[Skybird]

In the past I have married Lydia, Muiri, Mjoll, Brelyna Maryon, Camilla Valerius, Ysolda and Aela, depending on the type of character I am playing.

Hm, and now they all disappeared from the game. Hm. You are not some kind of sick dangerous psycho running around in fancy costumes and threatening people with knifes and stick, I hope?

[Skybird]

At last found a girl i like to marry, hope i can get her to sense :hmmm:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6862/screenshot78739.jpg
Heck, is that a rolling pin she has in her hand?

[Takeda Shingen]

Hm, and now they all disappeared from the game. Hm. You are not some kind of sick dangerous psycho running around in fancy costumes and threatening people with knifes and stick, I hope?

Wasn't all in the same game, of course. I don't like to mod these type of games too much. Once your spouse is dead, you cannot marry another unless you use a mod.

[kiwi_2005]

I'm not to worried, i have multi installs of Skyrim so i can add mods to this sucker to hell and back if i need too. Setup a new User Account in Windows name it Skyrim or whatever make it as acc administrator, log in to that acc and install Skyrim. Make an acc for each install & use the Steam fix for each install to take steam out of the picture for good, so multi installs are not a issue. And i grab all Skyrim updates of the internet without steam.

I have 1 heavy modded install, 1 clean install untouched, and one lightly modded install.

:arrgh!:

[danlisa]

Starting over with a few new mods. (FYI, users of "Sounds of Skyrim" are advised to disable the mod in fear of save bloating. Don't have the link to hand but I read it on the Nexus forums)

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/2012-07-17_00004-1.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/2012-07-16_00016-1.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/danlisa_photo/2012-07-17_00001-1.jpg

[kiwi_2005]

I use Sounds of Skyrim haven't had an issue with save bloating s but will take note. Nice pics you have there, i seen one mod of Whiterun where the modder has changed all the dry grass areas into a forest, it actually looks really cool, huge trees its like walking through a maze of greenery but you need a rig with superpowers just to run it. :haha:

[kiwi_2005]

:rock:Ive replaced Skyrims music with Conan the Barbarian music sound tracks playing ingame 15 soundtracks for different areas of the game. ie Files are placed in folders you create = Town, Day, night, dusk, dungeons, taverns and so on, then place the music you want to be played for different areas into appropriate folder. Then create a music folder and place them all in there, & place in skyrims Data folder.

To add yur own music you need something like this. Then away you go. http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/13286/

This modder has practically done half the job, all you have to do is convert your music to xvm or wave i read xvm is more reliable and rename them to the correct names so skyrim knows when to play them.

For me its bloody awesome to listen to Conan music while running round as a axe welding barbarian with the Conan intro theme blaring in the background! :yep::yep: Just ups the gameplay for me. Oh and i added in Morrowinds intro theme as well for when trekking in the mountains. :) I never get sick of Morrowinds intro theme.

As for sharing my conan sounds i can't due to copyright nags.

Nothing wrong with Skyrims music like always Bethsheda makes sure they have excellent music ingame, with morrowind and oblivion it was a piece of cake to add music, skyrims a bit trickier. Next up if i even get round to it i might create a marksmen in skyim and add LOTR sound tracks :cool:

[Takeda Shingen]

I usually turn the in-game music off, or at least turn the volume to zero.

[kiwi_2005]

Really, thats a shame. I don't usually have the music playing in games either but the elders scrolls games i always leave it on.

[BossMark]

Really, thats a shame. I don't usually have the music playing in games either but the elders scrolls games i always leave it on.
Same here I love the Elder Scrolls game music :yep:.
Does anyone know if the unofficial Skyrim patch is now safe to use with Skyrim patch 1.6.89.

[kiwi_2005]

Funniest character i met last night was Roggi Knot-Beard who is a mead drinking nord, he is also a proud man who refuses to take a handout from Iddra to pay the bar debts he owes her, even though he is constantly unable to pay those debts drinking & keeps asking her for free mead. Reminds me of my younger years :rotfl2:

Roggie will give you a quest to find his ancestors shield then when done he will become a companion.

[Takeda Shingen]

Dawnguard's up on Steam. Downloading now. :D

[Drewcifer]

Yep did they even announce it or am I just out of the loop here? I've been putting in some serious hours with a new character build prepared for dawnguard then all of a sudden I go to take a break and the steam store screen pops up like "Recommended for you "Dawn Guard Download it now..... seriously don't go eat just sit there and play skyrim forever. :har:

[Takeda Shingen]

Yeah, it was a shot from the blue. I logged onto Steam and saw exactly the same thing. :haha:

[Task Force]

Yeah I was playing Arma and got the flash ad thingie when I exited the game.

Needless to say, soon I was on the store page buying it. Though after much consideration by flipping a coin. (The coin never lies, and it didn't misguide me this time.)

[Skybird]

Having cancelled Visa and Paypal, sucks, but I stick to it (did it during the Assange affair when companies started to poodle to the US). And doing cash transfer order requires to give them my full ID dataset, it seems. I am not dumb enough to throw around my data so carelessly just to gie them opportunity to trade them and makew money with them, and me being spammed by companies that before I never have heared of, or my banking account being compromised. I don'T like nor do I need this kind of crap.

So unfortunately I draw the consequence and pass on this one. Tolerating steam for just playing it, is one thing. Giving them my full dataset and banking info, is something different, and definitely beyond the red line.

PS3 and other data protection Waterloos of recent months and years, anyone? ;)

P.S. I hope I am must not fold over Virtual Pool 4 next week also, for the same reason. :-? They better offer anonymous cash transfer as an option, or they too have lost me. Thankfully I can work around the problem with SBP updates via private direct contact. That is worth pure gold.

[Spike88]

We are not satisfied yet with Dawnguard’s performance on the PS3. We would like for everyone to have a chance to play Dawnguard, but we aren’t going to release it for PS3 knowing that some people’s experience in Skyrim will be worse. We do everything we can to have our content available to all; from our free updates, to user mods, to paid DLC. We’re as disappointed as our fans when that isn’t the case, but we’ll continue to push for that reality.

Bastids.

[Arclight]

Yep, they are horrible people for not just releasing something in a bad state, like most other publishers. :O:

[Oberon]

Having cancelled Visa and Paypal, sucks, but I stick to it (did it during the Assange affair when companies started to poodle to the US). And doing cash transfer order requires to give them my full ID dataset, it seems. I am not dumb enough to throw around my data so carelessly just to gie them opportunity to trade them and makew money with them, and me being spammed by companies that before I never have heared of, or my banking account being compromised. I don'T like nor do I need this kind of crap.

So unfortunately I draw the consequence and pass on this one. Tolerating steam for just playing it, is one thing. Giving them my full dataset and banking info, is something different, and definitely beyond the red line.

PS3 and other data protection Waterloos of recent months and years, anyone? ;)

P.S. I hope I am must not fold over Virtual Pool 4 next week also, for the same reason. :-? They better offer anonymous cash transfer as an option, or they too have lost me. Thankfully I can work around the problem with SBP updates via private direct contact. That is worth pure gold.

I'm surprised you're still using Steam after the recent change of T&C, thought that'd have you uninstalling it like a shot:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/01/steams-sub-agreement-prohibits-class-action-lawsuits/#more-118376

[Spike88]

Yep, they are horrible people for not just releasing something in a bad state, like most other publishers. :O:

Like they did for the main game?

It's also yet to be seen if they've even put in extra effort to get us the DLC on a timely matter. For all we know, instead of putting extra resources and manpower into getting the expansion to us on time, they could've just said "Eh, **** it, they'll get it when they get it and they'll be happy with it."

There is also the issue of the fact we never got 1.6, and 1.7 is nowhere in site.

[Arclight]

Like they did for the main game?
If there was something wrong with it, you would prefer it if they repeated that?

Your 2nd point is unfounded speculation. 1.6 adds new mechanics and might exactly be the reason it is delayed.

[danlisa]

There is also the issue of the fact we never got 1.6, and 1.7 is nowhere in site.

1.6 was bundled into 1.7 for the PS3. 1.7 is currently in submission to SCE QA. No time frame given but provided doesn't break PS3 OS files, it will be passed QA within 1 week. As we know, 1.7 is required for Dawnguard.

However, I do share your fears regards PS3 performance, Beth DLC on PS3 does not have a good record for being 'optimised'.

I actually loaded up my PS3 version for my little girl to play, it's 170 hours in with a 14mb save file and after 5 mins, it's like watching a slideshow. There's no denying it, we got the ****ty end of the stick........again. :shifty:

[Spike88]

If there was something wrong with it, you would prefer it if they repeated that?

Your 2nd point is unfounded speculation. 1.6 adds new mechanics and might exactly be the reason it is delayed.


While my second point is speculation, It's not "unfounded".
Bethesda has proven several times they don't give a rat's ass about their ps3 fanbase.

1.6 has been out for months for everyone else, and just skipped over for the PS3 version. The version who needs the bug fixes the most given the initial failings of the game.

If they have been giving the "effort" to resolve these issues, it hasn't been made obvious to the community.

[kiwi_2005]

Finally!

[Skybird]

I'm surprised you're still using Steam after the recent change of T&C, thought that'd have you uninstalling it like a shot:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/01/steams-sub-agreement-prohibits-class-action-lawsuits/#more-118376
Not sure whether I get the new point there, if it is about court proceedings and implications from different US laws, then this may not be good, but does not personally effect me, since I do not do Steam business in general. It was a terrible fail with Shogun 2, which is off my HD, and I tolerate it only and exclusively for Skyrim - no other Steam games I run or plan to buy. Mostly I play in offline mode and only occasionally switch to online mode to check for an update or upgraded mods. Taken for itself, from the perspective of European law tradition, forbidding group cases against Steam certainly is something highly dubious and suspicious, and just another reason why to boycott Steam.

The only suspicious thing is that Steam even in offline mode occasionally seems to estalbish internet connections. It is little details like this that has made me loosing an trust in reassurances about what they do and what they don'T do, and unchecking ticked boxes. My account holds no personal infiomation, no name, adress, and of course no banking account. All they have is one single email adress which is exclusively maintained for them alone, and would get deleted the moment sombodey starts to spam it, and my IP.

Did I miss anything important you wanted to point me at? Maybe I'm having a lazy day.

P.S. Just had a view and some reflecting over my frequently used services and websites. It seems the list of services and websites I avoid and refuse to subscribe to is much longer than the list of web-based services I use, unsubscribed.

Welcome new freedom in my private little world. :D

[Takeda Shingen]

So, the Vampire Lord power is pretty damn fun and a whole lot more survivable than the werewolf beast from. The problem with the werewolf form was that although you did obscene amounts of damage, it was all melee, so you had to be right on top of the bad guys to do it. With the Vampire Lord, you can keep range and you have a ton of abilities that you can unlock. Personally, I like the vampiric grip power to throw my enemies around. That's a lot of fun.

I am, overall, disappointed with the vampire lord animations. The 'wings' only get used when sprinting, and that does indeed look cool, but most of the time you just kind of float there in an upright manner. It does look cool on the ground, though. And the changes to general vampirism means that being a vampire doesn't suck anymore (no pun intended).

And crossbows. I haven't played through the Dawnguard side yet, but the steel crossbow I got my hands on does only a few points less damage than the dragonbone bow (dragonbone weapons are also fantastic) when both are upgraded to legendary quality. Having been on the recieving end of these crossbows, I can attest to the fact that the deffinitely pack a punch.

I'm pretty pleased and having a good time.

[Drewcifer]

Yeah the crossbows are pretty sweet.... BUT my assassin has max smith and goes for max damage so of course I'm going to have to say the dragonbone bow, dragonbone arrow combo is much more deadly... not to mention faster on the second shot. Its a nice addition esspecially for me because I don't wear dragonbone armor, so the perk was wasted until now.

Vampire lord is indeed alot of fun, it makes me think they should have made the werewolf form be able to change at will... or atleast rig up maybe a new system. I was thinking like at low health or stamina you go wolf out of your control or something. Since in 'story' werewolves have always had very little, or atleast less control over their transformation and powers then vampires. :hmmm:

[kiwi_2005]

Yea crossbows are a welcome in this game, so far finding DG okay not long into it, turned down the vampire option i do not like vamps and try to avoid anything to do with them if i can. Spoiler - im up to the part where Sarena sides with us and were off to find the mages to read the scroll. Once finished tho i might load my Conan character up that's only lvl 15 just to see how the vamps story turns out. Oh and if yur an Orc do not get the face change in Riften, or save first because they have messed up the orcs teeth and mouth - looks bad.

[Drewcifer]

Don't like vamps you say? Its a shame because we have ended the vile tyranny of the sun once and for all! lol.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/577837481904243450/9786FBF73ECD6A21D170EDB45CCECB768AFDB0D8/

[kiwi_2005]

I Grom Hellscream fear NO ONE! :O:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2weazqg.jpg

Skyrim: 300 (Battle of Thermopylae)Machinima :yeah:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ct1668FUKs

[BossMark]

So a quick question
Is Dawnguard worth £13 ? I have heard its as buggy as hell

[kiwi_2005]

^ it is buggy as hell.

I'm up to a part where i read Valerica's Journal and then Sarena is suppose to tell me about the ingredients. But the talk with Sarena doesn't trigger so i can't go further with the quest as i need to find the ingredients in the room which i have and then use it to open up the portal. Nothing happens Sarena just has the same dialog. tried an old save, redo it again, tried waiting 24hrs. Nothing. Can't continue. :/\\!!

Oh and forgot to mention, Glitches - ive fallen through the floor twice once running up the stairs in a dungeon, i ran right through the stairs instead and another i was fighting a gargoyle and fell through the floor! Had to TCL to get back up and continue.

[Takeda Shingen]

I haven't experienced any quest or game-breaking bugs. As usual, this sort of thing seems to be localized from person to person. My experience has been clean and very enjoyable.

EDIT: Kiwi, did you take the journal? You hand it over to Serana when you speak to her. Just reading it will not trigger the new dialogue options.

[Task Force]

I haven't had any real bugs. Just a npc or two running into something after a conversation, pushing them off of the wall fixed it.

[Takeda Shingen]

I've had Serana stick in combat a few times. The 'kill' console command gets her out of it, as she is essential and cannot die. And not the kind of standard follower essential where they can die if hit when down on one knee. She's like those two guys from Hammerfell looking for the Redguard woman. When down, you can swing all damn day and they don't die.

[kiwi_2005]

EDIT: Kiwi, did you take the journal? You hand it over to Serana when you speak to her. Just reading it will not trigger the new dialogue options.

Are you serious? yeah i read it then took it but i never handed it to her how do i do that? Only way i can think of is when we trade i give the book to her? OMG man if you are correct im gonna come back here and give you a big manly hug! :D I tried for hours last night trying to figure out how to trigger her. Will load up Skyrim & do what you said once my son heads of to work cause hes using the gaming pc atm.

:up:

[Takeda Shingen]

Are you serious? yeah i read it then took it but i never handed it to her how do i do that? Only way i can think of is when we trade i give the book to her? OMG man if you are correct im gonna come back here and give you a big manly hug! :D I tried for hours last night trying to figure out how to trigger her. Will load up Skyrim & do what you said once my son heads of to work cause hes using the gaming pc atm.

:up:


Okay, if you took it, then she should take if from you when you talk to her. If you cannot talk to her, you can use the console. Push the tilde key and enter the following:

setstage DLC1VQ04 50

This should get you past the journal problem.

[kiwi_2005]

Okay, if you took it, then she should take if from you when you talk to her. If you cannot talk to her, you can use the console. Push the tilde key and enter the following:

setstage DLC1VQ04 50

This should get you past the journal problem.




Ah i see, okay thanks. :up: I might actually be able to finish this DG after all.

[Takeda Shingen]

Let me know if it doesn't work.

[kiwi_2005]

Let me know if it doesn't work.

It worked :yeah:

well kind of, i got the quest Valerica's Journal to trigger with the code but Sarena keeps telling me look for her mothers journal & because i already had the journal, can't drop it and pick it up either cause its a quest item, it didn't trigger any new dialog. But at least i know what to do now, so i went back to an old save where i start at the sundial thingy, fight my way through to the portal part, then once in there i added that code so valericas journal quest triggers then i grabbed the book and quest completed, with new dialog from Sarena on finding the ingredients.

All good now :up:

[Drewcifer]

So a quick question
Is Dawnguard worth £13 ? I have heard its as buggy as hell


Its pretty buggy... I mean... to the point of almost unplayable in some respects.

1. If you side with Dawn Guard vampires kill all your NPC shopkeepers and essentially leave you in a dead world.
2. The Vampire side quests are a mess... you are asked to turn somebody into a vampire, then return the quest and get the same quest but obviously you can't turn a vampire into a vampire since you just turned that person.
3. After clearing out the vampire main quest the side quests dead end at Vingalmao Everybody in the castle tells you to talk to him and when you get to him he has nothing to say.
4. Vampire Lord is buggy as can be, gets stuck often, or glitches out and teleports inside mountains or under rivers.. (he can't swim so your pretty much imprisoned under a barrier of water.)
5. Nearly all of the new armor is incomplete so while it looks COOL, they are all missing helmets. So you can't get the complete set bonus and its basically inferior to anything else from the main game.
6. It needs ALOT of work all around... I love Skyrim, I Love Dawnguard.. teh new 'extra dark caves' are my favorite feature. Do you need it right now? Probably not... it needs patching. Is it worth having? Yes of course. Every DLC that is realeased for this game is going to be worth having... if you liked Skyrim duh.. you're going to love everything that adds onto it.

[Takeda Shingen]

I'm strolling through Castle Volkihar with my dead thrall in tow when Vingalmo pipes up to the effect of:

Practices like that are what give magic a bad name. Shame on you.

So a vampire bent on world domination that spends all day every day gorging himself on the blood of the human cattle that fill the basement of the castle he calls home does not approve of my necromancy. :doh:

[Arclight]

He wouldn't happen to be Dunmer would he? :hmmm:

[Takeda Shingen]

Vingalmo is an Altmer. The one Dunmer doesn't mind and neither does one of the Nords, but they are voiced differently. The others use the standard base game set, so they react when you have a thrall. It's just kind of funny to see that once you get 100 in Conjuration, this evil den of vampires suddenly gets all self righteous. :haha:

[Arclight]

Aye, just figured if he was Dunmer it would kinda make sense, with Morrowind culture so disaproving of necromancy. Gotta love the TES quirks.

[kiwi_2005]

If your finding DG buggy like i have I gave up after the Moth collection quest, the quest wouldn't trigger blah blah, this was my main character lvl 48 that most likely had currupt saves somewhere along the way from previous mods etc. So i deleted him. Being pissed off didn't help but hes gone saves and all.

Load up new character only lvl 15, start DG and finished it last night, did not come across one bug. Everything worked smooth running right through, played the DG side. So what was buggy? Clearly wasn't DG like i had thought. :hmmm:

Buggy game? Start from a fresh character.

edit
Oh and after all that, Dawngaurd wasn't all that great yes even wasted my time doing silly side quests. Ive had more fun playing modders single player quests try the Grytewake legend (abit on the short side) and Moonpath to Elsweyr both worth playing through, MPTE is better than Dawnguard and doesn't cost a cent.

DG wait for price to drop to $1:99

[Drewcifer]

If your finding DG buggy like i have I gave up after the Moth collection quest, the quest wouldn't trigger blah blah, this was my main character lvl 48 that most likely had currupt saves somewhere along the way from previous mods etc. So i deleted him. Being pissed off didn't help but hes gone saves and all.

Load up new character only lvl 15, start DG and finished it last night, did not come across one bug. Everything worked smooth running right through, played the DG side. So what was buggy? Clearly wasn't DG like i had thought. :hmmm:

Buggy game? Start from a fresh character.

edit
Oh and after all that, Dawngaurd wasn't all that great yes even wasted my time doing silly side quests. Ive had more fun playing modders single player quests try the Grytewake legend (abit on the short side) and Moonpath to Elsweyr both worth playing through, MPTE is better than Dawnguard and doesn't cost a cent.

DG wait for price to drop to $1:99

Nonfactor for me, I made a new character just for Dawnguard and all of the bugs I mentioned stand.

[kiwi_2005]

^ All mods uninstalled? Or better Skyrim mod free install.

Maybe i got lucky, son was playing DG with new character none of the bugs I got early in the game triggered but he came across one which i never got while playing the main. You meet Sarena mother & during the dialog where mother and daughter are talking, Sarena all a suddens disappears, just gone! Poof no where to be seen. Reload save, same thing. Stuck can't continue of to hunt down a setstage code! Where the hell she go too:har: DG is a bit of a mess right now. :88)

[Drewcifer]

No Mods. Played through with two new characters, both sides. Its a buggy mess.

When I summoned Durivener.. well whatever the new dragons name is... I had the quest where you have to summon him three times to learn his word. Well he never went away after I summoned him the first time. He would vanish if I entered a town or cave or anything but anytime I was outside he would just appear flying about and killing every thing red on my compass before I could even react.

[BossMark]

Started a new character with Dawnguard installed I just hope it runs OK with very few bugs.

[Takeda Shingen]

I've enjoyed Dawnguard. Haven't had any major bugs. Keep in mind that there are some consequences to actions. If you blot out the sun, vampires will attack towns. People will die. Some of them may even be shopkeepers. People wanted a more dynamic world where the influence of your action can be felt. Well, we got it. 100% completionists may not think to highly of it, but I like it a lot.

If anything, I would like to see more of that, like in New Vegas. If I join the Thieves Guild, the Companions shouldn't want anything to do with me. That quest line should be closed. If I am too virtuous, the darker elements within Skyrim should not want to work with me. And if I side with the Volkihar vampires, no one should want to be around me. Moreover, if I am a shady figure, certain elements in the main questline should be more difficult for me. For example, Jarl Balgruuf should require convincing before even hearing out my dragon catching idea. As it stands now, I can just ride up to Whiterun on my demon horse and walk up to him, clad in Dark Brotherhood armor with my glowing orange eyes and dead thrall in tow and have a pleasant conversation.

[Ducimus]

I've enjoyed Dawnguard. Haven't had any major bugs. Keep in mind that there are some consequences to actions. If you blot out the sun, vampires will attack towns. People will die. Some of them may even be shopkeepers. People wanted a more dynamic world where the influence of your action can be felt. Well, we got it. 100% completionists may not think to highly of it, but I like it a lot.

If anything, I would like to see more of that, like in New Vegas.

Cool. I just broke down and purchased dawnguard a couple hours ago. Not sure when i'll get into skyrim again, but it will be soon. I've already got my mods resorted (most of them my own for low impact on the game).

Anywho, one thing that alot of modern rpg's are lacking is decisions and consequences. Your decisions should have consequences, both good and bad. Its part of what makes up a role playing game; choices. But choices, always have outcomes.

If you have a game where the outcome is the same regardless of the choices you made, well, it just lacks depth. I kinda like all the old fallout RPG's with the end game movie. All the major choices and actions you made have a direct effect on the end story of the game.

[Task Force]

Yeah that's one thing I liked about the fallout endings, it gives you some insight on what happens to the people and factions. That was one of my biggest issues with the end of Mass Effect, it just kinda ends no real "and here is what happened".

[kiwi_2005]

Dragon Age Origins has choices, ive played this game 3x through and now doing it again this time playing through the Awakening expansion which will only be my 2x time. 3rd time through origins i tried to be the bad guy got to the ashes quest and offered to plant some blood once the ashes were found, then i found out because of that i didn't have to challenge the dragon compared to being the good guy. I hated taking him on. Plenty of choices where eveytime i played it something was different

But yea DAO is one of my best rpgs ok its like a movie slide show at times, still i got my monies worth out of it. DA 2 i never got round to playing but have read its very limited compared to Origins.

Back on topic:
Dawngaurd was buggy as hell, around 8 bugs with a glitch to go with it. falling through floors. Once i started again from scratch with a new char then i only came across one minor bug. Yeah well Bethsheda did say start from a fresh character. lol

[Takeda Shingen]

COPS: Skyrim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxHbO1MHXuI

[Task Force]

Dragon Age Origins has choices, ive played this game 3x through and now doing it again this time playing through the Awakening expansion which will only be my 2x time. 3rd time through origins i tried to be the bad guy got to the ashes quest and offered to plant some blood once the ashes were found, then i found out because of that i didn't have to challenge the dragon compared to being the good guy. I hated taking him on. Plenty of choices where eveytime i played it something was different

But yea DAO is one of my best rpgs ok its like a movie slide show at times, still i got my monies worth out of it. DA 2 i never got round to playing but have read its very limited compared to Origins.

Back on topic:
Dawngaurd was buggy as hell, around 8 bugs with a glitch to go with it. falling through floors. Once i started again from scratch with a new char then i only came across one minor bug. Yeah well Bethsheda did say start from a fresh character. lol

I played with my character of 130 hours and had only some issues with people running into walls, guess I was lucky.

[darius359au]

A little mod for anyone that wants to play as a vampire and still be in the Dawnguard ,(sort of Blade like, vampire hunting vampires!).
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/22555
You have to have finished the Dawnguard story first before this works!

only bug I've had with Dawnguard was a mod conflict causing a huge lag spike when firing a crossbow ,got rid of the mod,(glowing crossbow bolts), and everythings been fine.

[frau kaleun]

COPS: Skyrim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxHbO1MHXuI


:har: :har: :har: :har:

[Kapitän Schneider]

New Skyrim DLC announced. PS3 owner's screwed over again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2kvZN7bX0Q&feature=player_embedded

[Dowly]

Someone over at Nexus forums called it few months back, he found mention of
Hearthfire from the code or something like that. :yep:

Looks like a nice DLC actually. :up:

[Takeda Shingen]

It looks like a smaller DLC along the lines of the 'house' DLCs for Oblivion, albeit with staffing and the ability to adopt children. Probably a really good home for a good guy-type warrior. I'll probably buy it. Of course, I am also a self-admitted Bethesda fanboy.

What does irk me is that it looks like yet another XBox exclusive for 30 days. New Vegas only had Dead Money as an exclusive; the other three DLCs were released simultaneously. I was hoping that Skyrim would follow suit.

[Ducimus]

I can't say im excited about that DLC. Play house in skyrim? Ehh, what about something that expands the lore or storyline, or other areas previously untouched? Nope, nothing cool like that, instead you get to play like a little girl in kindergarden and "play house".

Xbox kiddies can keep it as far as im concerned.

[dazmaniandevill1182]

i love this game its the bees nees

[Dowly]

:o



:doh:



:)



:haha:



:har:



:rotfl2:

[Takeda Shingen]

Ehh, what about something that expands the lore or storyline, or other areas previously untouched?

Oblivion had a whole bunch of house DLCs, but they also gave us Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles. There's already been one heavy-content DLC, I'm sure there will be at least another. Dawnguard is probably Skyrim's KoTN, so I think that we'll get a bunch of small DLCs and then wrap things up with something the size of Shivering Isles or Point Lookout.

Some of the funnier remarks that I have read around the web are about the desire to have the new DLC be more like Operation Anchorage in size and scope. I'll bet a large number of those people were griping about that when it came out too.

[Spike88]

What does irk me is that it looks like yet another XBox exclusive for 30 days. New Vegas only had Dead Money as an exclusive; the other three DLCs were released simultaneously. I was hoping that Skyrim would follow suit.


I'm too lazy to pull the source, but the first two DLC will be 360 exclusives. The third, and any after should be released on all consoles around the same time(well PC and 360 anyways, given Beth's track record for PS3). As someone who is still waiting for Dawnguard and thinks Todd Howard and Peter Hines are pricks, I don't really care for Bethesda at the moment.

Also, if this is the last 'Exclusive' dlc, be glad it's something minor as houses and not a continuation of the story, or full DLC like that.

Honestly, Bethesda should give PS3 users a discount or a some added bonus to make up for the fact that we probably wont see Dawnguard until after the PC has Heartfire. Before anyone argues about this, think about the fact that when PC users get a game later than console, they usually get added perks in the form of free DLC, or extra content.

Also, my dislike for Bethesda has put me in an interesting position, as I am excited for Dishonored.

[Spike88]

Here is a more detailed video of Heartfire!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATFlVqC2QnY&feature=endscreen

Oh wait, it's the Nexus mod that does the same exact thing, but for free.
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18480

[frau kaleun]

And now for a post not related to Dawnguard or Hearthfire:

I'm reading that the CK has been updated, but I don't know when that was. Probably since I last went online with Steam, though.

Is the current version of the CK compatible with Skyrim if it's only patched to 1.5? If so, is there a way I can download JUST the updated CK without also getting Skyrim updated to 1.7? If not, is there a way I can go online with Steam to get the new version of the CK, but then restore Skyrim to 1.5 after the inevitable but unwanted updating of the game?

[Dowly]

Here is a more detailed video of Heartfire!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATFlVqC2QnY&feature=endscreen

Oh wait, it's the Nexus mod that does the same exact thing, but for free.
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18480

They are pumping out features they showed in the internal mod video with these
DLCs. :yep:

[BossMark]

Since I installed Dawnguard all I get now is random crashes and the game keeps bloody freezing :wah::wah:

[Ducimus]

Here is a more detailed video of Heartfire!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATFlVqC2QnY&feature=endscreen

Oh wait, it's the Nexus mod that does the same exact thing, but for free.
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18480

I was just about to post that.

Related video to that mod and hearthfire here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EDkfqJR5dU

[danlisa]

Beth are laying the groundwork for not releasing Dawnguard on PS3:

Earlier in the month, we provided an update on Dawnguard's status for PS3.

It's been a few weeks, and we wanted to make sure everyone knows where we're at with Dawnguard. Skyrim is a massive and dynamic game that requires a lot of resources, and things get much more complex when you're talking about sizable content like Dawnguard. We have tried a number of things, but none of them solve the issue enough to make Dawnguard good for everyone. The PS3 is a powerful system, and we're working hard to deliver the content you guys want. Dawnguard is obviously not the only DLC we’ve been working on either, so the issues of adding content get even more complicated. This is not a problem we’re positive we can solve, but we are working together with Sony to try to bring you this content.

We wish we had a more definitive answer right now. We understand the frustration when the same content is not available on all platforms. When we have an update, we will certainly let you know. We deeply appreciate all the time and support you have given us, and we’ll keep doing our best to return that.

Perhaps this debacle will finally force Bethesda to code for the PS3 rather than attempt to muscle in PC/360 code afterwards, but I doubt it. They have no interest in the platform and perhaps should consider avoiding it in future.

I still expect DG to be released on PS3 but merely as a cash grab on Beths part. :shifty:

[Drewcifer]

Beth never really seemed all that interested in making games for PS3 and I think they will probably just drop the platform instead of code for it.

[Spike88]

While I know nothing about the difficulties they are going through. It sounds more like a cop-out than anything.

I can't see how Dawnguard is any different than base Skyrim where they can't just add it on, or even just re-create it. :nope:




While Dishonored is being produced by Arkane Studios, this makes me worry for that game as well.

[danlisa]

While I know nothing about the difficulties they are going through. It sounds more like a cop-out than anything.

I can't see how Dawnguard is any different than base Skyrim where they can't just add it on, or even just re-create it. :nope:

They can't even get base Skyrim running well on the PS3, they have no chance with DG. In fact, I personally believe they're looking for DG fixes in the wrong place, they need to investigate the performance of Skyrim itself, I believe that's where the trouble stems from.

Being brutally honest, I am starting to think Bethesda needed a 'way out' of continual PS3 support, this may be it, and bringing Sony on board (if they have) gives them some modicum of legitimacy when they finally do.


While Dishonored is being produced by Arkane Studios, this makes me worry for that game as well.

You should be. Bethesda will have final 'quality control' on Dishonored, just like they did with FO:NV and we know how well that ended up. Dishonoured should only be considered as a viable purchase after a few months have passed and reports of extended performance are out in the wild. Also, watch to see if any PS3 previews or reviews are issued before release, Bethesda withheld Skyrim for review because of the performance issues.

[soopaman2]

They can't even get base Skyrim running well on the PS3, they have no chance with DG. In fact, I personally believe they're looking for DG fixes in the wrong place, they need to investigate the performance of Skyrim itself, I believe that's where the trouble stems from.

Being brutally honest, I am starting to think Bethesda needed a 'way out' of continual PS3 support, this may be it, and bringing Sony on board (if they have) gives them some modicum of legitimacy when they finally do.


Not being a troll or an elitist douchbag, but now you know how PC gamers feel when we get substandard console ports, with half baked controls, and rendering bugs..
:sunny:

[danlisa]

Not being a troll or an elitist douchbag, but now you know how PC gamers feel when we get substandard console ports, with half baked controls, and rendering bugs..
:sunny:

Dark Souls, by any chance? Yeah, that's fine but the PC platform offers hope in correcting those issues with community mods. Consoles don't have that luxury and are reliant on the 'developers' knowing how to fix issues.

[Spike88]

Being brutally honest, I am starting to think Bethesda needed a 'way out' of continual PS3 support, this may be it, and bringing Sony on board (if they have) gives them some modicum of legitimacy when they finally do.

Which is funny, with Sony starting to regain it's control on the market. I don't understand why you would want to drop a consumer base, all you are doing is cutting yourself from money.

But then again, Bethesda games as of late have not really been properly put together even for their "chosen" systems.




You should be. Bethesda will have final 'quality control' on Dishonored, just like they did with FO:NV and we know how well that ended up. Dishonoured should only be considered as a viable purchase after a few months have passed and reports of extended performance are out in the wild. Also, watch to see if any PS3 previews or reviews are issued before release, Bethesda withheld Skyrim for review because of the performance issues.

All of the footage and gameplay shown so far have been on the 360, which leads credence to this statement.

[Skybird]

I'm currently crazy for turning screenshots into "paintings" After having converted a dozen pics from Steel Beasts, I now go for Skyrim. Probably more to follow.



http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9603/skyrim01a.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3902/skyrim02a.jpg

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/4235/skyrim03a.jpg

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3876/skyrim04a.jpg

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5261/skyrim05a.jpg

[Dowly]

How It Should Have Ended - Skyrim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icG4HlumKm8

:)

[Skybird]

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/8689/skyrim10a.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3827/skyrim11a.jpg

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/66/skyrim12a.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/575/skyrim14b.jpg

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2775/skyrim13a.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7418/skyrim15a.jpg

[Dowly]

MTV CRIBS: Skyrim Hearthfire (by Dan Bull):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xny00wrjhwE

[Takeda Shingen]

MTV CRIBS: Skyrim Hearthfire (by Dan Bull):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xny00wrjhwE

Milk drinka!!!

[Skybird]

Warmduscher! Milchverschütter! Yogurtdeckelablecker! :woot:

[frau kaleun]

I did not know this was A Thing until I saw a fluff piece on the news this weekend, but apparently Gangnam Style has hit Skyrim as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8C4TCpdYlA

Anyway it made me :rotfl2:

[soopaman2]

I been playing other games,

So after most of you played through it, is Dawnguard worth the 20$ or is it a bunch of crap I can make with the construction set?

I am on a budget, and Assassins Creed 3 will be out soon. I am a cheapskate, pardon self. :)

[Spike88]

I been playing other games,

So after most of you played through it, is Dawnguard worth the 20$ or is it a bunch of crap I can make with the construction set?

I am on a budget, and Assassins Creed 3 will be out soon. I am a cheapskate, pardon self. :)


The general consensus is that it's not worth the $20.

If I were you, I'd get X-com or Dishonored on the 9th of October. They cost $30 dollars more, but are better buys. If you're a fan of the original X-com games, it only costs $20 to get the Alpha version of Xenonauts, which is pretty good.

[Drewcifer]

The general consensus is that it's not worth the $20.

If I were you, I'd get X-com or Dishonored on the 9th of October. They cost $30 dollars more, but are better buys. If you're a fan of the original X-com games, it only costs $20 to get the Alpha version of Xenonauts, which is pretty good.

I second everything Spike just said. As for Dawnguard it isn't bad... but its not like some grand new thing that will make you go OMG Skyrim I missed you!!!!!!!!!!

Just some generic content, a Vampire Lord ability that gets old in about 20 minutes... the new locations are pretty cool looking, and Dragon Bone weapons are a great addition as well as crafting your own arrows Daedric arrows we very hard to find before. Still meh I dunno that I would put it over my desire for Xcom or Dishonored.

[Takeda Shingen]

I disagree with the previous two posts. If you're a TES or Bethesda junkie like I am, you will want Dawnguard. As for general consensus, there is nothing general or consent-oriented about the aforementioned posts. This is all just three people's opinions.

[Skybird]

I do not have Dawnguard, so I may be free from any suspicion to just have a personal opinion on it's quality. I just say that when considering all feedback I read about it on some opportunities, both postings in forums as well as gamesite reviews, the opinion that it is no must-have and is overpriced, judged by the content, appears to be dominant indeed. It gets often compared to KOTN for Oblivion, which also was seen as no must-have at all, and offering too little for too much money. Dawnguard, they all seem to agree, does not what Shivering Isles did for Oblivion.

A point risen time and again in discussions is that the player, at least when playing for the Dawnguard, is stuck with a very repetitive and simple plot sending him back and forth between two distant corner of the map, and when one sub-quest is done, the same trip begins again. It seems that this simplistic plot turned more people sceptical than any other detail.

[Takeda Shingen]

I do not have Dawnguard


http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7418/skyrim15a.jpg

Ahem. I'm calling shenanigans; as those are the docks at Castle Volkihar.

[mookiemookie]

I've yet to take the Dawnguard plunge as I'm waiting for it to go on sale. I'm going through Morrowind again. House Telvanni 4 lyfe, yo.

[Skybird]

as those are the docks at Castle Volkihar.
That may be, I do not know the addon, and thus do not know the location's name. The simple fact is that that screenshot is not by me. I just worked on it. Two screenshots in that series I posted were reworked by me, but the original ones not ingame footage by me.

The other foreign one is the one at night, the balcony of Whiterun Castle. The kids of friends of mine sent them to me with pride. I sent the reworks back to them as a thank. And found it interesting and thus the work on the whole thing started.

All other original pics are shot by me indeed.

So if you want to continue your little private crusade against me, attack me over the right reasons. Attack me for not having said that those two screenshots originally were not by me.

It jumped my attention.

[Skybird]

And my attention stumbled again - I had not even posted the other of the two pics mentioned, so here it is. Just for you, Tak. With love.

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/2258/skyrim07a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/skyrim07a.jpg/)

Original shot not by me. Rework done by me.

[Skybird]

And stumble again, I have messed it up now, since I have all Skyrim screenshots - over 200 - in one folder. The balcony is by me, and the other of the two pics send by the kids indeed was posted in the earlier sequence, it should be the shadowy door with the two fires. I cannot give it any location in Skyrim, so it could be from the addon as well.

I bill my anger for it. I do not like to be called names in false accusations.

[Takeda Shingen]

I didn't call you names, Skybird. And I am sorry, I missed the 'screenshot not made by Skybird' logo on your pic. Seriously, if you want to stomp around over the fact that I disagreed with you in another thread, that's fine; maybe you can do that in PM. Thanks.

Moving on....

Mookie, funny you should mention Morrowind, as I just reloaded it today. With mods, it's really held up well over the years.

[mookiemookie]

Mookie, funny you should mention Morrowind, as I just reloaded it today. With mods, it's really held up well over the years.

I'm using Morrowind Overhaul and a couple very minor assorted mods and it's brilliant.

[soopaman2]

I really want it. But am not playing this at the moment.

I am stuck on Anno2070 (new expansion coming in days), and Just Cause 2 at the current moment.

I am waiting for Assassins Creed 3 to drop for PC, then by the time I am done with that I can buy Dawnguard for 5$ on a Steam sale.

Yes I am cheap. Or practical, whatever you call it.

[frau kaleun]

Unless they release some DLC that is massively more appealing to me than Dawnguard and Hearthfire, I'll probably wait until it all comes out on disk in a GOTY edition and then wait some more until the price comes down on that. The vampire thing doesn't interest me in the least and I can mod my player homes in the CK so... yeah.

And I just replaced my HDRadeon 5770s with a 6950, so the basic game just became a whole new experience for me. After all this time there are still locations I've never discovered and quests I've never done so I don't see myself longing for new content anytime soon.

(Plus I have GOTY editions of Morrowind and Oblivion sitting here that I've never even installed. So I think I'm good for a while. :O: )

[Takeda Shingen]

Unless they release some DLC that is massively more appealing to me than Dawnguard and Hearthfire, I'll probably wait until it all comes out on disk in a GOTY edition and then wait some more until the price comes down on that. The vampire thing doesn't interest me in the least and I can mod my player homes in the CK so... yeah.

And I just replaced my HDRadeon 5770s with a 6950, so the basic game just became a whole new experience for me. After all this time there are still locations I've never discovered and quests I've never done so I don't see myself longing for new content anytime soon.

(Plus I have GOTY editions of Morrowind and Oblivion sitting here that I've never even installed. So I think I'm good for a while. :O: )

Grab yourself some Fallout too. I promise you'll love it, and it will be a good primer for F4 when it comes out. :up:

[soopaman2]

Unless they release some DLC that is massively more appealing to me than Dawnguard and Hearthfire, I'll probably wait until it all comes out on disk in a GOTY edition and then wait some more until the price comes down on that. The vampire thing doesn't interest me in the least and I can mod my player homes in the CK so... yeah.

And I just replaced my HDRadeon 5770s with a 6950, so the basic game just became a whole new experience for me. After all this time there are still locations I've never discovered and quests I've never done so I don't see myself longing for new content anytime soon.

(Plus I have GOTY editions of Morrowind and Oblivion sitting here that I've never even installed. So I think I'm good for a while. :O: )

Get your hand off my graphics card!

All jokes aside, a great midranged piece. I am more than happy with mine, and had it for a good while now. I got the black edition version, and manually overclocked it. be careful, should you do the same. (it gets hot.)

I will suggest Oblivion first. Just better IMHO, I loved closing the gates, while fighting hordes of daedra.

(you will know what I mean by gates, just play it)

[Skybird]

Some of the city mods for Skyrim look extremely nice. I have Falkreath, Whiterun and Riften improved, and it makes a big difference.

I am also happy that I finally managed to sort out a problem with my follower mods that I was not aware of, the switching clothes-thing. I had two mods running that were not mutually supportive, but mutually hindering. Since I removed the one, the other works perfect and no auto-switching anymore.

Lush Gras and Lush Trees also turn the world into something new.

With over 30 mods, since months I have an installation that has no issues, everything is compatible with each other.

I get visitors this later afternoon. I will use the opportunity and use their Paypal account for getting Dawnguard - he knows but does not care for some of the issues that I care for when it comes to online sales and Paypal and Visa and such, so I must not have a bad conscience to "abuse" him. Blame Takeda, shame on him, he made me now wanting this. :O: I will see in how far DLC and mods create problems. I hope none. Anything I should know about Dawnguard, or Steam buying?

[Skybird]

I will suggest Oblivion first. Just better IMHO, I loved closing the gates, while fighting hordes of daedra.

I would recommend to skip the main campaign in Oblivion, it is pretty much repetitive. The main quests in all Bethesda role playing games always seem to be. But it is easy to forgive them, since the games do not at all depend on them.

How to avoid that all hellgates pop up in the landscapein Oblivion? In the early beginning you will be tasked with delivering a Talisman to somebody at a priory. Do not deliver it, and the story will not continue, the main quest is stopped and will not cause all those gates popping up everywhere, and you are free to do whatever you want and pick any other quest you stumble over. I hate it that the beautiful landscape gets messed up by these gate things. And doing one and the same subquest 12 or 16 times was not funny either. It was boring.

Beside this, Oblivion is still an excellent and beautiful game.

[Takeda Shingen]

I get visitors this later afternoon. I will use the opportunity and use their Paypal account for getting Dawnguard - he knows but does not care for some of the issues that I care for when it comes to online sales and Paypal and Visa and such, so I must not have a bad conscience to "abuse" him. Blame Takeda, shame on him, he made me now wanting this. :O: I will see in how far DLC and mods create problems. I hope none. Anything I should know about Dawnguard, or Steam buying?

You're on the right track about Dawnguard. It's more akin to KoTN or The Pitt than it is to Shivering Isles or Point Lookout. It's essentially 6 more hours of Skyrim, which to me was a good thing.

Do yourself a favor. Grab New Vegas and it's four DLCs (Dead Money, Honest Hearts, Old World Blues, Lonesome Road) while your friend is there. I know that I've said it before, but you will not be sorry.

[Skybird]

Got DG. Spend one hour to run down the road in the SE until the gatwe, thinking that would be the link point to DG. To find out that it was the cave to the left of the road, and a good distance form the unpassable gate away, really took me some time. :doh:

Too late to play on, so saving and leaving after entering the castle. The download took an eternity - six hours. I hate Steam.

[Skybird]

And there I was, walking back and forth, back and forth, back and forth between the upper left corner and the lower right corner of the map.

I must say Dawnguard leaves me unimpressed. But more realistically looking armor, which makes a change to the mod for chainmail armour that I use. The vampires disappoint me, I am that old conservative type of guy who expects vampires to go after my throat instead of using energy-draining scifi-weapons to weaken my deflector shields.

I read that Serana cannot be married. Not even that reward in there, her German comments by chosen voice and content are cute. Or does she get killed in the end? I'll soon find out.

I am off for a big frontal assault on castle Valkinhor, which seems to be the end of the story, if they have not some more surprises implemented. The good thing which I liked in how it was presented, was the quest in the Forgotten Vally. That one was really good in visuals and mood.

I sign in on those people's list thinking that it is overpriced and overestimated.

And what should I do with crossbows? Those things have lesser punch than my ebony arrows at legendary and take an eternity to have the weapon reloaded. I prefer a good bow and good arrows any time. But then, I'm a level 39 player currently with smithing skill able to raise items to legendary level, and having +25% smithing magic. Maybe crossbows were meant for players at entrance levels. Using a vulcanglass sword (Mjoll's), same dagger, and an ebony bow, all at legendary +25%. Chainmail armour for me.

Not too long the addon seems to be either.

In school notes: Skyrim A+, Dawnguard C. To be honest, am getting slightly bored and look forward to the final battle hopefully ending the quest. That the questlines between main game and addon are intermoxed where it comes to the scroll and the academy, I found a bit annoying, since I already did not like that part in the main game.

[soopaman2]

Dawnguard on sale for 30% off on Steam right now. (midweek madness sale)

All the other TES games are 50% off.

Not being a Bethesda shill, just informing. :)

[mookiemookie]

Dawnguard on sale for 30% off on Steam right now. (midweek madness sale)

All the other TES games are 50% off.

Not being a Bethesda shill, just informing. :)

Ooh maybe I'll get Dawnguard now. Been waiting. Thanks for the heads up.

EDIT: Done. But it's going to have to wait until Fadril Githrano fulfills the Nerevarine prophecy. Morrowind never gets old. Ever.

[Skybird]

I'm through. The end is a hectic boss-agony which for my taste does not suite well into the usual ways of battles in Skyrim. The gameplay was very repetitive indeed, travelling back and forth between the same two regions of the map several times - no good story telling there. A few new locations of which I only would mark the Forgotten Vally chapter as really stunning. If you like Skyrim, you do not do any damage by getting Dawnguard. On the other hand, you do not miss anything if you don't. And Serana is cute. Really cute. The German dub is wonderfully ironic at times. And the armor models look nice, together with bear or wolf coat, they look both impressive and realistic. Not that braggy impress-the-girls fairy tale kind of operetta parade that the standard armor sets have been designed for. I always have a fur and a chainmail set with me, switching them when needing better protection from steel, or from the cold. Will I play it again from the other side's POV? Don't think so, I did not got into the werewolf thing also. Those vampires just are not what I think vampires should be like.

I read about Hearthfire that you are limited to three places where you can build your house, which let my interest considerably drop immediately. I am stuck with the Riverside Lodge, which I am really in love with, and I think I would return to that home any time anyway, so... I think Hearthfire will do without me, then.

I got Mjoll the tavern dress for times we spend at home. :cool: Okay, code and console, but who cares. But that sexy dress does not match with her macho walking style (like a guy). I think I better give it to Aela, who does not walk like a giant. :sunny:

[Skybird]

Some new ones.

http://imageshack.us/a/img411/3594/skyrim24a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/411/skyrim24a.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/4518/skyrim23a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/skyrim23a.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img51/5928/skyrim22a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/skyrim22a.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img253/6655/skyrim21a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/253/skyrim21a.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/5747/skyrim016a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/skyrim016a.jpg/)

http://imageshack.us/a/img802/4245/skyrim17a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/skyrim17a.jpg/)

[Kapitän Schneider]

Hearthfire now on Steam, £3.49 in the UK, everywhere else I haven't bothered to check.

[Skybird]

I read about it today, and read that there seem to be many bugs and many people reporting serious problems getting it started, or not getting it started at all.

I wouldn't buy it right now even if I originally had the intention.

A new mod changes the Wolfhounds for the Huskies. Nice! The wolfhounds for my taste were too much teddybear-like. Have a Huskie as companion now.

[Skybird]

So what is the verdict on Hearthfire? Nobody here got it so far? I read mixed feedback. Some people like it, others are very disappointed. Some say "bug" while others say "no bug but complex feature".

Is it worth it for you? If yes or no, why?

[Kapitän Schneider]

I have it, it does have it's bugs, but I think it's worth the money (just). But if you have already completed the game are just starting this DLC, it will be over quite quickly if you have enough gold. But starting the game from scratch would probably make this DLC more fufilling.

[Takeda Shingen]

Yeah, I got it. I haven't seen any bugs, but I'm not using companion mods. From what I've read over on the Nexus forums, the coding involved in making a follower your steward has caused follower mods like UFO to go wonky, ie you cannot dismiss followers, offer stewardship or see the options to hire staff or buy livestock.

It's akin to Oblivion's housing content, albeit with a This Old House spin. At level 10, you are elligible to buy a parcel of land in either Falkreath, the Pale or Hjaalmarch. You'll recieve direct communication via courier from the Jarl of Falkreath eventually, but you can just walk up to stewards and talk to them.

After you buy your plot (5000 gold), you can visit it. You have your benches to make the building and various components, as well as a chest with enough raw materials to make the basic home, albeit unfurnished. Yes, you have to make your furnishings too. Basic raw materials are clay, quarried stone and cut logs. Clay and stone can be quarried on site with a pickaxe, but the logs will have to come from the lumber mill. You can pay 200 gold for 20 logs, or if you have a good relationship with certain millers you can use the mill to cut the logs yourself, which is probably my favorite part of the expansion. I always liked playing with the sawmills, and now they actually do something.

You're going to also needs lots of iron ingots. I mean lots. They are used to make nails, hinges, iron fittings and locks (you need corundum too for that). House furnishings and decorations also require materials like glass and straw, which are purchased from any of the local goods merchants and trade caravans.

From your basic home, you can begin to expand your house into what is essentially the Skyrim take on an english country home. Building a main hall gives you a two-story addition with a dining hall and sleeping quarters for yourself and your steward if you appoint one. You can then remodel your starter house into a grand entrance. From there, you can build three additions to the main hall, with each wing having three choices, including a greenhouse (with bees if you have an apiary outside), a kitchen (complete with working oven), enchanter's tower, alchemy lab, library, family quarters (if you want to adopt), a trophy room, storage, etc. Externally, you can build a garden (you decide what you want to plant), chicken coop, cow pen, apiary, stable, smelter, blacksmith workbench and a salmon hatchery (Hjaalmarch only). You can also build a basement under the main hall with storage, a proper smithing setup and a coffin for vampires.

There are also new craftables and consumables such as milk, butter, baked goods and mudcrab legs. You can buy these at any inn or food merchant, but the various amenities around the house can make them for you.

Once a steward is appointed, you can talk to the steward about hiring staff for your home. You can hire a bard and a carriage driver. The bard will play any of the songs that you hear in the tavern, and on command. The carriage driver with take you to any city or town for free, not just the ones from the standard carriage driver list. So yes, you can tell him to take you to Riverwood and he will do it.

If you choose the living quarters addition to the west wing, you can adopt up to two children, so long as you have build both beds and chests for each of them. There are various street urchins around Skyrim that you can adopt, or you can go straight to Honorhall Orphanage. I could imagne, however, that it might be awkward for those who had completed the Dark Brotherhood initiation quest. "Hi, remember me? I'm the guy that burst in the door and murdered the lady that ran this place. Can I have a kid?"

You can give your adopted children various toys and dresses, as well and build them a child's practice dummy in the basement. There are some radient quests, some marked, some unmarked. So far, I've had a giant hanging around outside of my home and bandits have kidnapped my wife for ransom.

One thing I didn't like at all was this level 10 requirement. It is fine that there is a requirement that you make a name for yourself before the Jarls will offer things to do, but pick a different level. Dawnguard initiates at 10 also, so it gives the impression that everything goes nuts once that happens. I was doing a quest around Whiterun during which I hit the level. Upon returning to town, I have vampires attacking the place, the Orc Dawnguard guy trying to recruit me and some courier running up to me with a letter that says the Jarl of Falkreath wants to talk to me, and now. I'm all 'what the hell is this crap?'

Overall, I'd say that it's got a lot of bang for your buck given that it's just a house DLC. I haven't noticed the bugs, but I didn't notice any with Dawnguard either. I play on a high-end PC and use very few mods, so player experience will likely vary based on system and mod preference.

[Skybird]

I am now level 41 currently, have made many friends, and use a mod to delay levelling up and allow others to level up higher. I am also so rich now that I stink of gold. And I love that beautiful Riverside Lodge. I mean I really love it, if it would be real and I could afford it, I would immediately buy it and withdraw from the outside world. :D Hearthfire worth it for me? :hmmm: :06:

But it is only 5 bucks, I see, so... I possibly go for it at next opportunity, and start a new game.

[Takeda Shingen]

I am now level 41 currently, have made many friends, and use a mod to delay levelling up and allow others to level up higher. I am also so rich now that I stink of gold. And I love that beautiful Riverside Lodge. I mean I really love it, if it would be real and I could afford it, I would immediately buy it and withdraw from the outside world. :D Hearthfire worth it for me? :hmmm: :06:

But it is only 5 bucks, I see, so... I possibly go for it at next opportunity, and start a new game.

It is pretty cheap, but as I said, it is currently incompatible with the Ultimate Followers Overhaul, which if I remember is a must-have for you. Outside of that, I would reccomend a new game for it. Yes, you can buy all of the materials and have your steward furnish the home, but the real fun of the DLC is to build it yourself.

[Arclight]

"Hi, remember me? I'm the guy that burst in the door and murdered the lady that ran this place. Can I have a kid?"
You're doing it wrong. :O:

It's possible to go in, hit your mark and leave without ever being spotted. :yep:

[Takeda Shingen]

You're doing it wrong. :O:

It's possible to go in, hit your mark and leave without ever being spotted. :yep:

I'm never spotted. Constance Michel freaks out whether you are spotted or not. :know:

[Arclight]

True. Bit of a shame it triggers those events even if you went undetected, though it was oddly satisfying to hear the kids cheering her murder.

Initially I wasn't going to do that quest, on account of comitting a murder. Untill I visited the place and met the woman... Didn't seem like such a bad thing after that.

[Skybird]

It's decided, I'll get it. Opportunity is good since with a level 41 character and armour and weapons of legendary status the game offers no challenges and so a restart is in order anyway.

I read that many people have problems getting the quests from the Jarls that open the property sale for them, finally, and that when getting some letter inviting them to the Jarl, they indeed need to go to a very different city than what the letter states, since the sender offers them no options. Is there something I need to look out for?

[Skybird]

And there I sat recently, and had some thoughts and mental estimations on playing time spent for Skyrim in the past year that it is out now, almost. and I ended up concluding that there is probably no other game of the past 25 years that I have played so intensely and spent so many hours on and immersed so deep into, like this. Even Falcon 4, Oblivion, Speedball 2 and Sim City do not come close.

Which formally makes Skyrim probably the best game I have ever played. And I still feel the craving.

A true benchmark in PC game history, me thinks.

Proud Hearthfire owner since yesterday. :up:

[Skybird]

Now having played excessively the new Hearthfire, I must say that I like it, much more than Dawnguard. But it gets some experience to avoid the problems people have reported.

After having gotten the letter by the Jarl of Falkenring (yeah, its all Germanised...), I found that he did not offer me any dialogue options pointing at the land to sell. I then was in Morthal and there solved one Jarl-quest and two population quests, earning me the land and a Huscarl. Not before having done that, the land in Falkenring was available via quests from the Jarl there.

I could run all my 30+ mods, none of them gave big troubles, only the AFT, Advanced Follwers Tweaks. Dogs as followers would not wait anymore when given the order, and could not be dismissed, also do not follow into cities (or was it like that before?) However when quick-travelling into cities, the dog was with me, but could not leave via the city gate into the wilderness: another quicktravel does the trick. But when Meeko finally got smashed by giants and arranged with smashed potatoes and vegetables on a plate, I was relieved. Human followers will wait and follow all AFT's orders, but initially will follow you after the command was given, you have to turn and face them to make them stop - and then they will stop indeed and not follow you anymore. Very easy-to solve minor niggle. All other mods work flawlessly: environment enhancement, gameplay balancing, places etc.

Hearthfire itself appeals to the collector and miniature railroad constructor. I like it, but I think they wasted potential cheap and easy there: it could have become better. What I do not like is that for the additional wings of the building, function and outside appearance are linked: the sleeping room for example has the balcony instead of a roof, you cannot have the armory with a roof as well. I would have preferred to have the ability to define the outside appearance of the wing and the inner function independently from each other. Next, three construction places is a bit lame, better would have been more, and also some in the more distant places that so far get widely ignored by house makers in Skyrim: the Reach, and in general the distant North-West. Cream on the cake would have been to chose construction place freely, as long as it is flat enough and big enough and has away finding route making it accessible.

Five bucks is okay. Compared to it, Dawnguard was overpriced.

I currently love the house in Morthal, the mood and visuals are great. I have a Huscarl patrolling around it, Ria as stewart, I'm married to Aela living there, I have two kids and a bard inside, and two followers, Mjoll and Jezara, as followers waiting inside or standing guard at the door. Horse, cow and chicken not counted. Originally, there even was Meeko waiting for me outside as well.

A home very much alive, and with a unique atmosphere in the swamps in heavy weathers.

Smithing Dawnguard armor is available via mod, I use these very much, plus chainmails and fur coats. These give a very nice and realistic looking of the actors. You do not need to buy Dawnguard for getting Dawnguard weapons and armor. And Jazera getting angry with two Dawnguard axes in both hands is really a sight you do not want to meet in battle! ;) For some reason I like to travel in a group. I usually leave it at the entrance of dungeons, and do the inside job all alone. It'S so good to see the smile on a familiar face when getting out and cleaning the blood from my hands. It looks so - well, what does it look like? It looks like victory, I would say. :D

[kiwi_2005]

Is this Hearthfire a free DLC? Cause there has been a mod out on nexus site for a while now where you can build your own house.

[Dowly]

Is this Hearthfire a free DLC?

No.

[kiwi_2005]

Well then here it is: been out since June, last update 7th Oct

Build Your Own Home by Supernastypants

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18480

BYOH video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Dg6BaEosv2g

[Takeda Shingen]

Well then here it is: been out since June, last update 7th Oct

Build Your Own Home by Supernastypants

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18480

BYOH video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Dg6BaEosv2g

I used that mod. Frankly, Hearthfire is a lot better.

[BossMark]

Is this Hearthfire a free DLC? Cause there has been a mod out on nexus site for a while now where you can build your own house.
Bethesda give something away for free :haha:

[kiwi_2005]

I used that mod. Frankly, Hearthfire is a lot better.

And so it should be your paying for it.

Me i'll just stick to my LOTR house :D

[mookiemookie]

A return to Morrowind in our future?

As if that wasn't enough, there's also evidence that Dragonborn will take us back to Morrowind, setting for Elder Scrolls III and the former home of the Dunmer. There were whisperings to this effect last year - Lake Solstheim and Vvardenfell are modelled just off the existing Skyrim world map.

Quest markers for Solstheim, Telvanni, Castle Karstaag, Raven Rock and Miraak Temple have been discovered, alongside entries for what appear to be four new armour varieties - Bonemold, Chitin, Nordic and Stalhrim.

http://www.oxm.co.uk/46679/skyrim-dlc-dragonborn-to-feature-mounted-dragons-morrowind-armour-solstheim/

[Dowly]

Christopher Walkenthrough - How to make 100,000 gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71OsAM8N7hE

:D

[Skybird]

A return to Morrowind in our future?



http://www.oxm.co.uk/46679/skyrim-dlc-dragonborn-to-feature-mounted-dragons-morrowind-armour-solstheim/
They must not do completely new games atm. I would already be happy if they just set up new terrains to explore, linked to and based on the Skyrim engine. I ignore the mainquest anyway. Do not need no damn storytelling - I write my own.

So, Bethesda, give us more and bigger sandbox!

[mookiemookie]

They must not do completely new games atm. I would already be happy if they just set up new terrains to explore, linked to and based on the Skyrim engine. I ignore the mainquest anyway. Do not need no damn storytelling - I write my own.

So, Bethesda, give us more and bigger sandbox!

It's the next Skyrim DLC.

[mookiemookie]

Dragonborn trailer is out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s&feature=plcp

[Takeda Shingen]

Dragonborn trailer is out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRmdXDH9b1s&feature=plcp

Finally saw it after getting internet back. Looks like we're headed to Solstheim. :up:

[Iron Budokan]

Riding dragons?

Riding dragons.

Riding...dragons.

:shifty:

[Task Force]

Riding dragons?

Riding dragons.

Riding...dragons.

:shifty:

At least they might be better than my derpy horse that always gets itself killed!

[Takeda Shingen]

Riding dragons?

Riding dragons.

Riding...dragons.

:shifty:

And a whole island to explore. And entirely new weapons, spells, shouts and enemies. And levitation. And House Telvanni. And House Redoran. And Corpus. And Rieklings. And Apocrypha. The list goes on.

This appears to be the big Shivering Isles style expansion for Skyrim. I'm very excited for it.

[Dowly]

Some Dragonborn screenshots:
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/news/230/

[kiwi_2005]

^ morrowind memories

This Dragonborn an expansion coming out?

[Oberon]

Morrowind, eh?

http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1335/03/1335039862833.jpg

[Takeda Shingen]

The cliff racers are no more. Or at least Jiub says so.

[Oberon]

I'll believe it when I see it, not even an atomic war would be able to wipe those things out IMHO...it was probably them that caused Red Mountain to erupt and Vivec to collapse... :shifty:

[Arclight]

Always thought Cliff Racers were good sport, never understood why everyone disliked them so much. :hmmm:

Generally just shot them from distance... Guess it's because of all you boring melee types. :O:


Netches, now those were nasty.

[Krauter]

Hmmm looking at getting Skyrim/Dawnguard/Hearthfire for PC. All for under what the original price of Skyrim alone is on Steam... I have Skyrim already on PS3 but the possibilities of the DLCs becoming availalbe is looking grim.

So, is it worth it to get Skyrim+the DLCs (and added goodies of the mods on PC), or should I just wait for the DLCs on PS3?

[darius359au]

Hmmm looking at getting Skyrim/Dawnguard/Hearthfire for PC. All for under what the original price of Skyrim alone is on Steam... I have Skyrim already on PS3 but the possibilities of the DLCs becoming availalbe is looking grim.

So, is it worth it to get Skyrim+the DLCs (and added goodies of the mods on PC), or should I just wait for the DLCs on PS3?

It's definitely worth getting Skyrim plus the DLC on PC ,combine that with some of the available mods and you'll never go back to the ps3 version :03:

[Drewcifer]

Get it. There is zero reason not to have this game and all its DLC and any MODS you desire. Just simply a great game. The box says it all "Live another life in another world"

[Krauter]

Looks like its settled. Thanks all. Any really recommended mods that won't screw up my game with DLC?

[danlisa]

Not that I suggest any PS3 user actively puts more money Bugethesdas way but if you can minimise the amount they get, it's better than nothing.

Skyrim £9.99 or $15.95 Steam activated: https://www.impulsedriven.com/products/ESD-IMP-W2491

@ Krauter - DLC in it's current form will not make it to PS3, if you enjoy the game that much, don't wait.

[Takeda Shingen]

More Dragonborn detals released this morning.

http://www.examiner.com/article/skyrim-dragonborn-details-emerge-xbox-360-achievements-and-length-detailed

Looks like it's going to be big. :yeah:

[Krauter]

One of the reports that I read said that the content, or at least data, included in this DLC is about the same size as the vanilla game. However the island itself will be about the same size as the Rift.

[Dowly]

Dragonborn coming to PC and PS3 early 2013.

We’re also happy to announce Dragonborn will be available on PS3 and PC early next year.http://www.bethblog.com/2012/12/03/dragonborn-coming-tomorrow-to-xbox-live-coming-to-ps3-and-pc-early-2013/

The crybabies with X360s got it today. (wankers)

[Kapitän Schneider]

Dragonborn will come to PS3 in early 2013?

In which alternate reality is that happening then? Considering the first 2 DLC have yet to rear their ugly heads above the parapit on that console.

I absolutely love Bugesda's logic about this. Let Xbox lovers get the game in time for Xmas, and let the rest of us get it in January (or later) when most of us will have no money because we spent a load of it all during Xmas. :/\\!!

I wonder how much money Microsoft threw at them?

[Skybird]

Nobody hinders you to put aside some of your christmas money. If you don't, that is not Bethesda's mistake or responsibility, but yours.

Kids. :nope: No patience. :D

[Dowly]

I see there are few who know the TES lore better than anyone probably should, so here be a question:

I've been playing TES:Arena for a couple of days and I can't help but notice
that both Mithril and Adamantium are in the game, yet are absent from the later
games (Morrowind->). Is there any in-universe explanation for their disappearance? :hmmm:

[Takeda Shingen]

I see there are few who know the TES lore better than anyone probably should, so here be a question:

I've been playing TES:Arena for a couple of days and I can't help but notice
that both Mithril and Adamantium are in the game, yet are absent from the later
games (Morrowind->). Is there any in-universe explanation for their disappearance? :hmmm:

Actually, mithril was in Oblivion as the second strongest suit of normal light armor (only glass was stronger).

http://images.uesp.net/6/69/OB-item-female-Mithril_Armor.jpg

As far as I know, no explaination was formally given for their absence. They may be due to legal disputes with the Tolkien estate and Marvel Comics respectively, but that is a wild guess.

[Spike88]

I wonder how much money Microsoft threw at them?

Given the 50 million they spent to get GTAIV's exclusive content, lord only knows how much they've paid Bethesda.


Pete Hines says PS3 will probably get Dawnguard and Heartfire later on, but that Bethesda feels Dragonborn is more important first.

Honestly PS3 users should see some sort of good customer service given the fact that Bethesda has boned us from the beginning.

[Takeda Shingen]

Given the 50 million they spent to get GTAIV's exclusive content, lord only knows how much they've paid Bethesda.

I'm fine with that. Put that money towards the development of Fallout 4, which is the top of my personal list of most anticipated games. :up:

[Dowly]

Actually, mithril was in Oblivion as the second strongest suit of normal light armor (only glass was stronger).

http://images.uesp.net/6/69/OB-item-female-Mithril_Armor.jpg

As far as I know, no explaination was formally given for their absence. They may be due to legal disputes with the Tolkien estate and Marvel Comics respectively, but that is a wild guess.

Thanks! :up:

Funny how I forgot the Mithril from Oblivion, seeing how that is easily my most
played TES game. :doh:

[Kapitän Schneider]

Nobody hinders you to put aside some of your christmas money. If you don't, that is not Bethesda's mistake or responsibility, but yours.

Kids. :nope: No patience. :D

Who says I will be paying for it?

And if that last bit was directed at me. It's been a very long time since i've been to school. And compared to Bugesda's other DLC game releases, 1 year and only 3 DLC's, poor show. Especially when it has come to the PS3 users.

[Takeda Shingen]

Who says I will be paying for it?

Tread lightly. Some reading for you:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_rules2_faq_item

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