British Football Thread (all divisions)

[Threadfin]

Wow, you're good at this.


Congrats to Chelsea. I haven't seen the match, but from what I've read the Gunners didn't show up, and Hazard did. If Hazard is on his game, and Aubemeyang isn't, the outcome seems obvious.


A fitting end to a stellar Chelsea career for Hazard. In this day and age of petulant, spoiled footballers, he stands out as measured, thoughtful, loyal and humble. And one of the best players in world football. It's hard not to like this guy.



This assumes he is sold to Real Madrid, but all indications are it's essentially a done deal at this point.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.imgur.com/dCvCEGm.jpg

[BossMark]

Well done to England ladies on reaching the knockout stages of the womens world cup...

[Jimbuna]

Scotland :)

[BossMark]

Scotland :)
:haha::haha::haha:

[Jimbuna]

Former Uefa president Michel Platini is being questioned by French anti-corruption investigators over the awarding of the 2022 World Cup to Qatar.

Platini, 63, was head of European football's governing body until being banned in 2015 for ethics breaches.

The former France midfielder and three-time Ballon d'Or winner has always denied any wrongdoing.

Qatar beat bids from USA, Australia, South Korea and Japan in 2010.

Platini is being questioned in Nanterre, a suburb in western Paris.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48673461

I know the subject matter isn't exactly about British football but this hardly surprises me.

[Jimbuna]

It has now been announced RAFA will leave the TOON next Sunday. There will now probably follow an exodus of disgruntled players.

Shame on you Ashley!!

Rafael Benitez will leave Newcastle when his contract expires on June 30, the Premier League club have confirmed.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/11748023/rafa-benitez-to-leave-newcastle-when-contract-expires-on-june-30

[Threadfin]

No surprise on Platini. Well, that he was detained anyway.

The surprise is that it seems people are still investigating it. Heartwarming :)

As for Rafa, what a huge mistake to let him walk. Not sure why, though it seems that he wanted greater control, especially over transfers, and Ashley wouldn't agree to that.

Rafa was a higher calibre manager than Newcastle normally attract, with all due respect. They should have done more to keep him, if it's true that he would have stayed.

I think it's best for him that he's moved on. But where will he land? Could Chelsea scrap the Lampard chase and swoop for Rafa? I wouldn't trade him for Klopp, but if Klopp left I would take Rafa back in a heartbeat. He is a great tactician, the sort of manager who gets more from his team than the sum of their parts due to his tactical acumen and gameplans.

[Jimbuna]

I don't think there is a football club in existance that is too big for RAFA but he may move to China where he has been offered somewhere in the region of £25 million per year.

I'm wondering if Ashley will have the courage to visit St James Park again.

[Threadfin]

He could go to China, but I think only if there are zero opportunities in England and Spain, maybe Italy. There's big money in China of course, but it's such a footballing backwater. I don't see it unless he has no other destination in Europe. And surely these will open up. Solksjaer's gone by October :D

[Jimbuna]

My latest concern is who will replace him?

I can't see any self-respecting manager willing to work under the conditions RAFA put up with, unless of course they are a 'yes man'.

[Threadfin]

Curbishley? haha I trot that out for every vacancy.

A number of names are being bandied about, but an interesting one for me is Arteta. But you're right, the conditions at the club and for the new manager seem to rule out some of the higher profile potential hires.

I bet it's Ranieri.

[Jimbuna]

I bet it's Ranieri.

He's certainly looking like one of the early favourites :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Steven Gerrard has rejected Mike Ashley's approach to take over at Newcastle.

The Rangers boss rebuffed the advances from St James' Park and turned down the chance to succeed Rafa Benitez.

Gerrard and Patrick Viera were the main names in the frame for the Magpies but the Liverpool legend let it be known he wants to fulfil his ambitions at Ibrox, according to the Mirror.

Ashley understood that the chances of persuading Gerrard to take charge were slim but sounded out the possibility.

The 39-year-old wants to restore Rangers to their former glory and usurp Celtic as kings of Scotland.

He is already in the thick of pre-season with his squad and preparing them for their first Europa League qualifier of the campaign.

The Gers' take on St. Joseph’s of Gibraltar and the approach for Gerrard has served as a distraction.

It seems Ashley will also be disappointed by Viera, who is content to stay with Ligue 1 side Nice amid ongoing uncertainty at Newcastle.

Sheikh Khaled bin Zayed Al Nehayan's proposed takeover has been a process fraught with mis-information and uncertainty.

As a result, plenty of fans have opted not to renew their season tickets and there are more questions than answers in the north east as it stands.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/premier-league/steven-gerrard-rejects-approach-to-manage-newcastle-and-rebuffs-mike-ashley-to-stay-at-rangers/ar-AADZgCQ?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

Further evidence to show just how toxic this parasitic odious man is.

[Threadfin]

It appears potato head is not put off by Ashley's peculiarities.

[Jimbuna]

Yes, a most underwhelming appointment choice.

[Threadfin]

My condolences.

He's a former Rokerite too, which mustn't sit well.

Of the 33 managers to manage at least 200 league games in the Premier League, Bruce has the second lowest winning percentage after Robbo of all people.

Hard to see what's in this for Newcastle. Safe hands? Hardly.

Best name available? Nah.

Will do as Ashley wants? Ding ding.

Newcastle swung and missed with this hire in my estimation. Here was a chance to get someone younger, more progressive, more in-touch with the modern game. Steve Bruce is none of those things. But if he stays up....

[Jimbuna]

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialFootballFeed/photos/a.331364773735791/1216414705230789/?type=3&theater

[Threadfin]

Haha, that's great :D

[Jimbuna]

TOON beat West Ham 1-0 this morning.

[Jimbuna]

Son-in-law was shopping at the Newcastle Metro Centre yesterday afternoon and who should he bump into.

https://i.imgur.com/a06Dw3Q.jpg

[Threadfin]

Miggy!


Season's just 'round the corner. Can't wait.

[Jimbuna]

Yeah, he looks like he could do with a good feed :)

[Threadfin]

85m for Harry Maguire. World's gone mad. Good work there Woodward. That's bound not to backfire in some way.


Harry Maguire, the world's most expensive defender. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

Stupid price and it shows just how desparate Manure are to get back to the top.

[Jimbuna]

Liverpool and City start their seasons with heavy wins.

Oh and Sunderland are one down at half time :)

[Threadfin]

Match week one to City, two goals to the good now. Not likely to come down to differential, but you never know. The real worry is Allison, but there's no better time to get hurt, with the light schedule for the first month. Haven't see his prognosis, but hoping for a speedy recovery.


So Jimbuna, you must be happy that Ashley decided to open the strings with Rafa having bolted eh? Joelinton? Haven't seen him to be honest, but for that sort of price he had better hit the ground running.

[Jimbuna]

Rafa had previously warned the fat controller that Linton wasn't worth £40 million so wasn't interested in him.

The question I'm pondering is who is the person or persons who identified £60 million of targets for this season because it certainly wasn't Rafa or Bruce (the second worst managerial record in Premiership history).

Hopefully they will all come good and we'll have a good season.

https://i.postimg.cc/3rFy1Qhv/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Poor performance even though Arsenal looked a little lacklustre, going down to the only goal of the game.

Improvement is needed and fast.

[Threadfin]

Gunners were there for the taking I'd reckon. I think this year the relegation line will be higher than usual, 38 points may not be safe. We will see.


United looked more free and flowing than in a long time. I think the scoreline flattered them a little, and Lampard's team selection for me was questionable.


Brighton got off to a flier eh? Burnley too.



Glad football is back.

[Jimbuna]

Only one game played in the league and it's already looking like a two horse race :hmmm:

[Cyborg322]

hmm which 2 ? :hmmm: hope its not a repeat of last season I reckon were going to have a more open chasing pack, at least I hope so. good win for MU very pleased about that bit of consistency and just maybe 1 of the contenders Rashford seems to come of age matured nicely

MUFC 4 Chelsea 0 :yeah:

[Jimbuna]

I was thinking the same two as last season with possibly Spurs and Man U leading the chasing pack.

[Jimbuna]

Very poor result at Norwich yesterday and there are many already calling for the removal of Steve Bruce.

[Threadfin]

Yes, that's one that Newcastle would have looked to for three points. Wasn't able to catch the match and judge the performance, but even if they played well enough to win, a loss to Norwich is a very poor result indeed.


Sorry to say but I picked Newcastle to go down, along with Sheffield and Norwich. Plenty of time left, but these games against the bottom clubs are must-wins.


How did Toon look against Norwich? Is sacking Bruce justified at this point? I mean, has he got his selection and tactics wrong already?

[Jimbuna]

How did Toon look against Norwich? Is sacking Bruce justified at this point? I mean, has he got his selection and tactics wrong already?

Atrocious, yes yes and yes.

Totally out of his depth.

[Threadfin]

My condolences.

Toon fans deserve better.

[Jimbuna]

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has reportedly selected Marcus Rashford as Manchester United's permanent penalty taker.

The decision comes after Paul Pogba missed from the spot in Monday night's 1-1 draw with Wolves .

The French midfielder grabbed the penalty after being felled at Molineux but saw his spotkick saved by Rui Patricio.

[Threadfin]

Yes, and Rashford's never missed.


For me it goes to show that United lack leadership from top down. PSG had the same sort of convoluted penalty arrangement in the recent past too.


A manager must set the taker and that's it. Anything else is silly. Title-winning teams don't have penalty by committee. You pick a taker, and if he's on the pitch he takes it. Done.


Allowing the players to debate it on the pitch is madness and shows weakness in the manager for me.

[Jimbuna]

Agreed :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Great result beating Spurs 1-0 yesterday :yeah:

Best I don't mention the cricket :)

[mapuc]

Yeah it was a really positive result.

I had a little hope for a draw.

Markus

[Threadfin]

Fantastic result for Toon yeah. I watched the match, and although I give potato head a lot of grief, credit where credit is due. Newcastle looked cohesive and organized and showed fight and resolve. I pegged them to go down, but more performances like that will keep them in the top flight.


Despite that, Spurs were listless and devoid of any sort of creativity until Eriksen came on. It could be a long season in that gleaming new palace for Tottenham.

[Jimbuna]

No mention of Stokes heroics in the third test? :hmmm:

:03:

[Jimbuna]

So sad at losing Bury F.C and Bolton could soon follow.

I suspect there are more clubs near to that above.

[Jimbuna]

TOON drew 1-1 with Leicester last night then lost the penalty shootout 4-2 but the lads put in a good performance so hopefully the weekend game against Watford (the only team currently below us) will bring with it a better result.

[Jimbuna]

1946 Newcastle United equals English Football League record for biggest winning margin in a 13-0 thrashing of Newport in a Division 2 match at St. James' Park; Len Shackleton scores 6, Charlie Wayman 4 for the Toon.

[Jimbuna]

TOON 1-0 Manure :yeah:

https://i.postimg.cc/jS3JKh0c/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

After a long time I could change channel after the match with a big smile on my face.

Hope this win have given them some confidence

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I remain ever the optimist Markus :03:

[mapuc]

A football related question

Is this word Manure used by the TOON's fans as as a substitute for
Man. U

Sorry I could not help laughing when I saw the word.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Quite correct, it does not sound so harsh as the human equivalent but the meaning is the same :03:

[Jimbuna]

Watched Southampton v Leicester City on tv last night and was astonished to see City thrash them by a nine goal margin making the result the biggest for an away team in Premier League history.

Perez and Vardy both contributed a hat trick each...amazing game.

[Jimbuna]

TOON very lucky to get a 1-1 draw against Wolves despite taking the lead.

Too many players underperforming and a manager who is tactically clueless.

[blackswan40]

Leeds Utd beat the Smoggies (Mackems) 4-0 on Saturday we are sitting spiffy at the top of the Championship atm but hope its not ground hog day a rerun of last season running out of steam and just making the numbers up in the playoffs

[Jimbuna]

Isn't it Sunderland (the unwashed) who are Mackems? :hmmm:

[blackswan40]

Whoops sorry buna got that wrong

[Jimbuna]

Coming from Yorkshire makes that quite understandable :03:

:O:

[Jimbuna]

Good win for the TOON away to Sheffield United last night 0-2

[Jimbuna]

Former Newcastle United manager Jim Smith has passed away at the age of 79.

RIP

https://i.postimg.cc/VsZCCZDC/79771824-2482138918773609-3998395749762072576-o.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50880336

Martin Peters: 1966 World Cup winner and West Ham legend dies aged 76

A true legend.

RIP

[blackswan40]

Nine Goal Thriler at st Andrews Birmingham City 4 Leeds Utd 5
Leeds 2 Nil up in first half then Birmingham pulled one back then they equalised.
Leeds scored again 3-2 then back came Birmingham 3-3.
Leeds went ahead again Leeds 4 Birmingham 3.
Birmingham scored Again 4-4 Leeds Utd won it at the death
in the four minuet of injury time.


This Game showed the best and worst of Leeds Utd briliant attacking play but very very poor defending against free kicks and corners.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTXGPIyanYM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2k8TQ1Hao7Em2imqNdSfn4nPYWFQPxQjUHRglkd NvNPYWJQPIFtY8i4RQ

[mapuc]

Saw the game on Eurosport yesterday and was (forgot the name) by the way TOON played.

Was in lead with 2-0 and could not hold this against.

As mentioned before they really need to work on their defence.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Believe it or not the defence is sorted, attack is the problem.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/HL6NnpZZ/92244991-2593704614283705-1548291901541580800-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

^ This must be Newcastle local language.

Google translate went berserk, when trying to translate it.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Geordie speak.

http://www.geordie.org.uk/

Stay at home and don't go out.

[Jimbuna]

Peter Bonetti: Former Chelsea and England goalkeeper 'The Cat' passes away, aged 78
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-legend-peter-the-cat-bonetti-dies-aged-78-a4412866.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2lGcOamY2N4vmJJpEWIzs7mWoEFJ8ZXqk2dxyYX mBfMy5m0G0oSC7-w0M#Echobox=1586699936

RIP

[Jimbuna]

The virus will be leaving Newcastle United very shortly with any luck!!!

https://i.postimg.cc/1tYZjNVS/93702722-163600461790024-2435818980267524096-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Moonlight]

Amanda Staveley is a lot easier on the eye than that Ashley chap, what chance is there of a return of Rafa Benitez?, and more importantly have you bought an Arabic phrase book?, and even more important than that is, has Mohammed bin Salman bought a geordie phrase book. :D

One final word, tell bin Salman to buy some winter woollies. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

I'm not all that keen on either Staveley or bin Salman tbh but anyone has to be better than Ashley.

Mind you, I'll only believe in a takeover after it has been signed, sealed and delivered.

[Moonlight]

Salman and Staveley are in it for the money, once their feet are under the table they'll start demanding success now and not later, I think Staveley is a wolf in sheeps clothing and I can tell you this, if there's any dissent or failure from players and non playing staff they'll be got rid of pretty damn quick.

Newcastle might be better off sticking with Ashley you know, better the devil you know and all that, Salman and Staveley are an unknown quantity at the moment but they might just be the kick up the backside that Newcastle need, whatever happens its going to be interesting times ahead me thinks. :up:

[Jimbuna]

You may well be right but right now I think the majority of the support are prepared to take that risk because the club is going backwards under Ashleys tenure.

[Jimbuna]

Former Tottenham and England striker Jimmy Greaves has been released from hospital after being treated for an unspecified illness.

The World Cup winner, 80, was admitted to hospital on 7 April.

Tottenham said their record goalscorer, who had a severe stroke in 2015, had "not tested positive for Covid-19 nor suffered another stroke".

A statement on Greaves' official Facebook page said he was "back at home recuperating with his wife Irene".

It added: "He has been very ill and we are hoping he will be fine going forward."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52294467?at_campaign=64&at_custom3=Regional+BBC+East&at_custom1=link&at_custom4=4EA3DF98-7F2A-11EA-903D-E4AFC28169F1&at_medium=custom7&at_custom2=facebook_page&fbclid=IwAR0LAKa-HoIStrksG1CJuWUNJBs0HwUHD_wpsnM-YEhqtuhOwteefPQLqzM

Great news :up:

[Moonlight]

Piracy problems at Newcastle.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11608428/newcastle-saudi-arabia-takeover-unrest/

Yet more bloody nonsense coming from the cartel at the top of the game who are only concerned about competition and what it'll do to their finances, this piracy bollocks is just another excuse for them to hide behind, Arabsat, which allegedly hosts the pirate material is owned by numerous countries including the UAE and not just Saudi Arabia.
These football clubs should not be allowed to comment on or influence the ownership of a rival club, but they do and they've been very successful at it so far, they'll stretch this out for as long as they can me thinks, more innuendo's and snide remarks in the corridors of power will come from them I'm sure. :yep:

[Jimbuna]

I call it hypocricy, nothing was said when Man City and Sheff Utd were purchased.

[Obltn Strand]

English football in midsummer day....lived to see that one:06: Usually it's euro/world cup tournament this time of year. Finally Finland qualifies and tournament is postponed. Figures...

Well Leeds has a game tommorow so it's off to do some BBQ...

[Jimbuna]

TOON are on tv tomorrow.

[Jimbuna]

TOON thrashed Shef U 3-0 and I must say I was pleasantly surprised at the scoreline.

[mapuc]

TOON thrashed Shef U 3-0 and I must say I was pleasantly surprised at the scoreline.

Now this was truly some good news :yeah: -haven't seen so much tv today-well the TOON match wasn't on the program.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

English football in midsummer day....lived to see that one:06: Usually it's euro/world cup tournament this time of year. Finally Finland qualifies and tournament is postponed. Figures...

Well Leeds has a game tommorow so it's off to do some BBQ...

How did Leeds get on?

:03:

[Obltn Strand]

No luck in Wales though grain of that was involved as Fulham lost too. Next one is against them. A very importantant "6 pointer"....

What I dechipered from radio live commenting was pretty much same as before this virus crap. Leeds creates chances but doesn't score. Paddy Bamford was the main scape goat; again :hmmm:

Newcastle seems to be on the safe side now...

[Jimbuna]

Yeah, one more win and they will surely be safe. I just hope the buyers will go ahead with the purchase when Premiership survival is a certainty.

[Jimbuna]

TOON at home to Villa on tv tonight and hopefully a second successive win since the Premiership resumed.

[Skybird]

It took a long, long time, but now - congratulations!


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/480/cpsprodpb/119A4/production/_113100127_hxv-y-wq.png


The best part of it: "Made in Germany" :O:


https://p5.focus.de/img/premierleague/origs12055674/6318519647-w630-h472-o-q75-p5/57b1053ed83338771fc23e5cd70d6705c24c1075.jpg


Every club must envy Liverpool for this guy. He is a rocket. We learned that from his time in Dortmund. Now you Brits learn it withg Liverpool. :salute:

[Jimbuna]

^ Moved from politics to British football thread.

[Jimbuna]

Liverpool champions....we'll never hear the end of this :haha:

[mapuc]

I'm happy on the Liverpool soccer team and their supporters behalf.
It was well earned.

Now I hold my fingers cross. For TOON.

Markus

[Obltn Strand]

Phone kept ringing by pool fans :timeout:
Reminds of 80's although we didin't use phones that much back then...

Predictions gives 2-1 for Leeds... possible if Leeds scores the first goal...

[Jimbuna]

I'm happy on the Liverpool soccer team and their supporters behalf.
It was well earned.

Now I hold my fingers cross. For TOON.

Markus

Looks like the TOON have done enough to stay up Markus.

https://i.postimg.cc/44q4JN7S/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Obltn Strand]

Bamford hit inside the framework for a change and Bielsa's double substitution sealed the game. Nice 3-0 win over Fulham. 7 games to go and 8 point gap means 16 year wait isn't over yet. Today's fixture is against Luton. Should be 3 pointer...

[Jimbuna]

I can't see Leeds failing this time around.

[Jimbuna]

TOON away to Bournemouth tonight and a point should see our Premiership position consolidated.

[Obltn Strand]

I can't see Leeds failing this time around.
And it did:k_confused:

Lucky equalizer though. Just read British sport news and Leeds disease strikes again. Controls game against weaker teams but doesn't score goals. Bielsa pitied over five points lost.

Exiting end season....

But now towards Bolt Works Arena and finnish "premier" league start; finally. We are corraled into groups of 500. That's newest recommendation by authorities. Quess it beats cardboard figures...

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/SKDCSkTJ/Image2.jpg (https://postimg.cc/HJ8V3DCg)

[Jimbuna]

Great match last night saw the TOON beat Bournemouth 4-1

https://i.postimg.cc/VLzKMdR5/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Obltn Strand]

That's safety then...

Nice pic btw...especially how boro is represented:haha:

I hate that club. Always fails us in betting....

[Jimbuna]

I much prefer the mackem one, years of rivalry there.

[Obltn Strand]

I much prefer the mackem one, years of rivalry there. Sunderland runs deep therefore silent too...

Anyhow. Predictions, soothsayers, fortunetellers, fish guts and other assorted prophepts says Leeds will beat Blackburn. Sure hope so. All in for offence should be prefered tactic...

[Jimbuna]

I've got Brighton to beat Norwich in the lunchtime match but that isn't too difficult a prediction, or is it?

[Obltn Strand]

Brighton has shown decent form lately and still needs some half dozen points. Pukki party is definetly over and continues in championship next year. With our odds it will be money doubled.

[Jimbuna]

Brighton won 1-0

[Obltn Strand]

Brighton won 1-0
Made any profit?

Now that was powerful offence in Blackburn. However home team had it's chances too. Near misses, posts and few game breaking saves by Meslier kept the net clean. Two fabulous goals from free kicks by both teams. Seems like first goal by wham bam Bamford equals win for Leeds.

Investment to LUTV paid off as weather has been cold and rainy lately...

[Jimbuna]

Made any profit?

Now that was powerful offence in Blackburn. However home team had it's chances too. Near misses, posts and few game breaking saves by Meslier kept the net clean. Two fabulous goals from free kicks by both teams. Seems like first goal by wham bam Bamford equals win for Leeds.

Investment to LUTV paid off as weather has been cold and rainy lately...

I didn't put a bet on, I prefer to compete against my son-in-law with score predictions.

[Jimbuna]

TOON just got trounced 5-0 off Man City. Wasn't expecting them to win but thought we might have nicked a drawer.

[Obltn Strand]

Well Stoke went down 5-0. I had my doubts because Stoke among boro are those teams who know how to "surprise" ...and always in a wrong way....

So close, yet so far...
.

[Jimbuna]

Looks like a full days viewing for me tomorrow.

Norwich City v West HamPremier League12:30BT Sport 1 / BT Sport Extra 1 / BT Sport Ultimate

Watford v Newcastle UnitedPremier League12:30Amazon Prime Video / Twitch

Liverpool v BurnleyPremier League15:00BT Sport 1 / BT Sport Extra 1 / BT
Sport Ultimate

Sheffield United v ChelseaPremier League17:30Sky Sports Premier League / Sky Sports Main Event / Sky Sports Ultra HD

Brighton & Hove Albion v Man CityPremier League20:00Sky One / Sky Sports Premier League / Sky Sports Main Event / Sky Sports Ultra HD / Pick

[Obltn Strand]

Quite a list...

Seems all excitement is on championship side. Promotions and relegations are far from clear.

Another six pointer in Wales. Last time it didn't end so well. Bees are in spectacular form and their GD is better too... exciting indeed.

[Jimbuna]

TOON flattered to deceive again!!

[Jimbuna]

Manchester City have successfully overturned their two-year ban from European club competitions.

The Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) announced the club were cleared of "disguising equity funds as sponsorship contributions".

Uefa issued the ban in February after ruling City had committed "serious breaches" of Financial Fair Play regulations between 2012 and 2016.

City's fine has been cut from 30m euros (£26.9m) to 10m euros.

In delivering the ruling on Monday, Cas said City did "fail to cooperate with Uefa authorities" but overturned the decision by Uefa's club financial control body (CFCB) to ban them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53387306

I'm struggling to understand how the ban has been overturned, especially after reading the bottom line :06:

[Moonlight]

^ I'm not, Man City being banned wouldn't have been the end of this saga, they would have opened the biggest can of worms UEFA has ever seen.
Real Madrid, Barcelona and every other top team in europe would have been dragged into it and EUFA know that, that's why they'll just shrug their shoulders and breathe a HUGE sigh of relief that its all over, lets see how many of the top teams call foul on this, my guess is none of them. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

I suspect you're right.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/wTBRWRbY/108594070-211980556732477-1357308249164551530-n.jpg (https://postimg.cc/K4dYjj20)

[Jimbuna]

Premier League fixtures opening weekend (exact dates to change)

Crystal Palace v Southampton (12 Sep)
Fulham v Arsenal (12 Sep)
Liverpool v Leeds United (12 Sep)
Tottenham Hotspur v Everton (12 Sep)
West Bromwich Albion v Leicester City (12 Sep)
West Ham United v Newcastle United (12 Sep)
Brighton v Chelsea (14 Sep)
Sheffield United v Wolves (14 Sep)
Burnley v Manchester United (later date)
Manchester City v Aston Villa (later date)

[Gerald]

How are you doing for The Magpies this year, do you think...:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Badly

[Gerald]

Badly Reason?

[Jimbuna]

Lack of investment in the quality of the players. A clueless manager and an owner that won't spend any money.

[Gerald]

Lack of investment in the quality of the players. A clueless manager and an owner that won't spend any money.But there is money ... so it's not the problem, but as you say if I understand it correctly, the manager should be replaced so that it has a positive effect ... partly in the short and long term.

[Jimbuna]

The owner keeps the profits for himself and doesn't reinvest it into the team.

[Gerald]

The owner keeps the profits for himself and doesn't reinvest it into the team.Mike Ashley! Greedy and stingy.:Kaleun_Mad:

[Jimbuna]

FCB

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/Z51tXHDR/118529537-1424328714427194-283312715903151024-o.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Not so funny...

Paul Pogba: Manchester United midfielder tests positive for coronavirus.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53932853

[Von Due]

https://i.postimg.cc/Z51tXHDR/118529537-1424328714427194-283312715903151024-o.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Manchester Magpies is so wrong.

[mapuc]

I put it here in this football related thread-even though it isn't about English football. They are mentioned in the article

I found it very interesting I have used translate.

"
The Danish national team's great hypocrisy

The national football team, together with the English national team, will kneel against racism and for Black Lives Matter on Tuesday. The jokes are consequently queuing up on social media.

There are two problems in misery.

One is the hypocrisy that both the Danish and the English national team expose. For what about racism and slavery in Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the Middle East? Do the same players intend to show up in 2022 for the World Cup in Qatar, whose new stadiums have been built by slave laborers from Nepal and India, several thousand of whom died during the work?
Yes, obviously.

With this, the players - and Dansk Boldspil Union with the slogan ‘A Part of Something Bigger’ - will in a figurative sense kneel before racist and oppressed regimes. From where billions of kroner every year are transferred to European football clubs. There is apparently agreement to stick to being against American police brutality, some statues as well as some old movies.

This brings me to the second problem. And no, that's not a euphemism for something else, but it is also true that Black Lives Matter exists in dubious versions.

On the other hand, the Danish national football team, by kneeling against racism, opens a door that cannot be closed again. Should the national team then e.g. not also brought into the stadium under a rainbow flag? And what about all the other worthy, universal human affairs? How about running twice around the track in honor of the fight against naming Inuit as 'Eskimos'? What about Save the Children, the Red Cross, the fight against global warming and support for saving the rainforest?

Can't the national team beat a bucket for them?

Which, by the way, reminds me of another DBU slogan: 'Together against homophobia'. On the occasion of UEFA and the DBU's anti-homophobic set of rules

In Qatar, there is the death penalty for homosexuality.

Is there a politically correct form of expression to cover up the contradiction that one likes to play for regimes that kill homosexuals, but whistle everything when shouting 'gay ass' in domestic football stadiums?

Is there a politically correct form of expression to cover up the contradiction that one likes to kneel against racism when it comes to African-Americans, Afro-English and Afro-Danes, but bends the neck when Nepalese perish in gruesome and systematic exploitation in Qatar ?

If DBU has any answers, I would like to hear from them.
"

Markus

[Obltn Strand]

I always miss kickoff so these things don't really matter to me.

But next saturday half past seven 16 year absence comes to an end. Poor man's Community Shield, premier winner against championship winner. I also have the dubious privilege of betting on behalf of our group in the opening round. Great opportunities or catastrophic failures...

[Jimbuna]

With me it is usually the latter :doh:

[Obltn Strand]

That's the way it usually goes.

13 matches with 3 three options each. (Home/away win or draw) Five two option choises and one with all three. This round it will be Liverpool - Leeds. This option is usually reserved for boro. It always fails.

Difficult but good thing it only costs 5€ per week.

[mapuc]

That's the way it usually goes.

13 matches with 3 three options each. (Home/away win or draw) Five two option choises and one with all three. This round it will be Liverpool - Leeds. This option is usually reserved for boro. It always fails.

Difficult but good thing it only costs 5€ per week.

We have the same system in Denmark and Sweden.

In Denmark it is called tips13
In Sweden Strycktips.

I use to make some row-mostly a reduced system on the Danish Tips13.

Markus

[Obltn Strand]

I knew Sweden had similar where it propably came to Finland. Denmark was a surprise even though I spent many summers there in late 80's and early 90's. -92 summer was wild....

In Finland it is called Vakioveikkaus (standard betting) and it started as early as 1940. Wars of course cut off few years.

We have 5 guys in our group and we have done it for decades.

[mapuc]

I knew Sweden had similar where it propably came to Finland. Denmark was a surprise even though I spent many summers there in late 80's and early 90's. -92 summer was wild....

In Finland it is called Vakioveikkaus (standard betting) and it started as early as 1940. Wars of course cut off few years.

We have 5 guys in our group and we have done it for decades.

I was once member in an online group. Today I do it myself.

Do you have some system.

Here I'm thinking
Mathematical
R-system(Reduced).
U-system - This is very difficult to translate this into English-I get
Way out
exit
output
UM-system.

Markus

[Gerald]

The club were criticised for buying players shortly after announcing 55 redundancies - mainly affecting the commercial and administrative departments - on 5 August.

Senior staff, including manager Mikel Arteta and his players, took pay cuts.

"I would be lying if I said there had not been sleepless nights," Venkatesham said.

Nine days after announcing the redundancies, Arsenal signed Willian on a three-year deal from Chelsea, before paying Lille £23.14m for Brazilian defender Gabriel Magalhaes at the beginning of September.

But Venkatesham indicated that top-level clubs are facing financial uncertainty even as they invest in players.

The European Clubs' Association - which represents professional clubs across Uefa's jurisdiction - has estimated this week that the overall losses being borne by their members will be around £3.7bn.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54107122

Vinai...maybe ya must open the wallet......to drop some funds.:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

It's been a busy week for the Magpies so far, with three new signings through the door.

Jamal Lewis joined Monday recruits Callum Wilson and Ryan Fraser on Tuesday, as Steve Bruce's squad for the coming season is closer to becoming finalised.

The United boss is still keen to bring more new faces to Tyneside, with some potential loan deals in mind, while some players could yet be moved on.

All that has been slightly overshadowed by a return to the takeover saga - Mike Ashley and NUFC delivering a strongly worded statement criticising the Premier League who responded equally as tough.

Meanwhile, the build up to Saturday's trip to West Ham continues for United, with Fraser taking part in his first training session.

[Jimbuna]

Great start for the TOON last night beating West Ham 2-0 in London.

Great to see the new striker Callum Wilson opening the scoreline and free signing Jeff Hendrick scoring the other.

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5NTRvbY/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Plans for fans to return to watch live sport events in England from 1 October will not go ahead, says cabinet office minister Michael Gove.

[Jimbuna]

TOON beat Morecambe 0-7 in EFL CUP - THIRD ROUND last night.

Only a division two side admittedly but the way we are playing atm, any winning result is to be welcomed.

https://i.postimg.cc/hGJTpTTR/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

A deal for the Premier League to support lower-league clubs during the coronavirus pandemic "could be reached this coming week".

Plans for some fans to return to stadiums from 1 October will not go ahead because of the rising number of coronavirus cases, and it is feared the postponement could have a "devastating" impact on clubs.

Speaking on the Andrew Marr Show, Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden said England's top division needs to "start looking after the football family as a whole" and he was hopeful an agreement could be made over the coming days.

"I've been in touch with the Premier League a lot over the past few days. They are working closely with the EFL to see how they can support them," said Dowden.

"The Prime Minister and I have been clear: the Premier League needs to start looking after the football family as a whole, and indeed they are having productive conversations.

"I am hopeful that they will reach a deal this coming week in relation to that, and then beyond that, look across at all sports."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54315814

Better late than never I suppose.

[Jimbuna]

Can't believe TOON scored a 90+7 penalty to get a point in a game where Spurs were light years ahead of them in every department.

A point is a point I suppose and Bruce will be a far happier manager than Mourinho atm

https://i.postimg.cc/bvCFdHy4/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

I have tried to find an English article about this story, which involve 36 years old Eoin Bradley From Ireland.

In the Swedish article it was said he peed on the grass field and got 6 days quarantine for this episode.

I think the punishment was to weak for such a behavior.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I have tried to find an English article about this story, which involve 36 years old Eoin Bradley From Ireland.

In the Swedish article it was said he peed on the grass field and got 6 days quarantine for this episode.

I think the punishment was to weak for such a behavior.

Markus

https://www.todayfm.com/sport/eoin-bradley-receives-six-game-ban-urinating-windsor-park-pitch-1083100

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/coleraines-eoin-bradley-abused-online-after-urinating-during-cup-game-39405042.html

[Jimbuna]

TOON play Newport in the fourth round of the league cup tonight.

[Jimbuna]

TOON equalised with a few minutes to go then won 5-4 in a penalty shootout.

Very very lucky.

[Jimbuna]

TOON climb to the dizzy heights of sixth after a 3-1 home victory over Burnley.

Joke Linton once more proved that his true value is closer to £40 and not the £40 million paid for him.

I think it is long overdue for Jacob Murphy to be given his chance and be picked ahead of Linton.

https://i.postimg.cc/GtR3cyVS/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[blackswan40]

Its nice to see that club that play in red from the other side of the pennines
adhering to the new Corvid-19 lockdown rules and only letting six in against Tottenham

[Jimbuna]

:haha:

[Jimbuna]

Just remembered....Villa tanked Liverpool 7-2 so also worthy of a mention.

[Jimbuna]

TOON were hammered 1-4 by Manure last night.

https://i.postimg.cc/25JG9TnN/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Weird how everyone's going on about Manchester and South Yorkshire, when Sunderland have been in the third tier since 2018 :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

TOON were lucky to get a last minute equaliser at Wolves tonight 1-1

https://i.postimg.cc/x1Lb3G8j/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Rumour Paul Pogba has retired from the French National team in solidarity with the Muslim's of France after the presidents disgraceful attack on the population after last weeks tragic death of a young Chechen former religious warrior who's only crime was to behead a French citizen :doh:

If true, then good riddance!

It could well be true https://strettynews.com/2020/10/26/pogba-quits-france-after-president-macrons-remarks-on-islam/

[mapuc]

From the Danish news I can understand Premier League has some problem with their fanpage

It isn’t just Premier League clubs suffering this widespread problem, with nearly every footballer, celebrity, public figure account with thousands and thousands of followers receiving the same type of comments.

https://fanbanter.co.uk/premier-league-face-problem-with-pornbots/

I hope they find a solution to this problem

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Not just the PL Markus, it is far more widespread than that unfortunately.

[Jimbuna]

Nobby Stiles: World Cup winner and former Man Utd midfielder dies aged 78
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36963874

What a character he has been over the years.

RIP Nobby lad.

[Jimbuna]

TOON v Everton today and hopefully an embarrassed 'little arms Pickford at the end of it :)

https://i.postimg.cc/gkkjn7Qp/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Pickford wasn't playing because of alleged death threats from Liverpool supporters.

Nobody should face that sort of intimidation.

On the bright side, TOON won 2-1

[Jimbuna]

England World Cup winner and Manchester United legend Sir Bobby Charlton has been diagnosed with dementia.

The news follows the deaths of his older brother Jack in July and fellow World Cup-winner Nobby Stiles on Friday, both of whom had also been diagnosed with dementia. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54770216

Not the best of times for British football.

[Jimbuna]

The Premier League is likely to scrap the controversial pay-per-view method for matches after November's international window.

Clubs will instead look to devise a new solution that will cover the Christmas period.

A definitive decision was not taken at a shareholders meeting on Thursday but discussions are said to be ongoing.

However, the £14.95 fee - which led to significant protests among fan groups - is expected to be dropped.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54824860

I should bloody think so as well!

[Jimbuna]

England v Republic of Ireland tonight and I don't know who half of the team are these days :o

[Jimbuna]

Football legend Diego Maradona has died at the age of 60.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54810392

Not wishing to speak ill of the dead but I'll always remember him for his 'Hand of God' incident.

[Skybird]

A good technician and cannonshooter with the ball, but a dud as a human, haughty and narcissistic. Never liked him and his arrogance: and not just because of the hand of god incident.

Think I just don't care. We have other problems on our minds right now, do we.

[mapuc]

R.I.P

He was an football artist.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

R.I.P

He was an football artist.

Markus

Football stars of the past in the UK are all singing his praises but the football supporters of the past are mainly of the opposite opinion.

[Jimbuna]

TOON actually won away at Palace last night and the Joke scored a goal thanks to a lucky deflection.

We are now at the dizzy heights of tenth place but that won't last long after todays scheduled matches are concluded.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/BQWL6p6s/128690056-10160386895402067-3273104965563790997-n.jpg (https://postimg.cc/8sHPXhMn)

[Jimbuna]

TOON away to Villa on Friday night has been cancelled because several TOON players and staff have tested positive for coronavirus.

This is the first such event for the Premier League since play resumed in June.

[Jimbuna]

TOON won at home against league strugglers West Bromwich Albion 2-1 but a win is a win at the end of the day.

[Threadfin]

I told ya when he was signed that Almiron was a good player. Maybe he doesn't score at quite the rate he should, but the fact he's still a starter for Newcastle shows he's a good player. Vital goal today.

Newcastle are sitting in a good spot. Must be nice not to be looking up at the rest of the table for a change. I gotta say that Bruce has done well. I thought it was a terrible hire at the time, but he's done a good job. Does the Toon Army feel the same?

Same with Uncle Woy. I ripped that hire and he's done a good job at Palace I think.

[Jimbuna]

Bruce is not rated by many of the TOON fans and the number is growing steadily but I lay the blame at Ashley's door.

In all fairness though, Bruce has done pretty well with the limited resources he has.

His biggest failing imho is his lack of tactical awareness.

[Threadfin]

So you think he is costing them points with his tactics?

Would be interesting where they'd be with this squad and Rafa still at the reins. Would they be further up the table? The squad doesn't ooze class, but they put in a shift.

Resources is right and if they spent on the same level of say Leicester or Wolves or even Villa! they might be in much better shape. They never seem to hit on the strikers they sign. Who is the last 15 league-goal scorer for Newcastle? Gayle in the Championship? Then you probably go all the way back to Shearer. Maybe Demba Ba?


Wilson's done OK, but he's already almost 30 isn't he? This is what Newcastle need. A reliable goal scorer and then they can push for Europe.

Or alternatively, they just need new ownership :)

[Jimbuna]

Or alternatively, they just need new ownership :)

That is precisely what is needed. Just look at Man City, where would they be without such huge financial backing 'City Football Group is 77 percent owned by Abu Dhabi United Group, an investment vehicle owned by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan, the brother of the ruler of the United Arab Emirates'

Of course it is well known the Premier League and the big six clubs are happy to maintain the current status quo by refusing to allow the TOON to become Arab owned.

[mapuc]

What a goal. Guess it will be hard to break the record

https://twitter.com/SkySports/status/1351643101979410435

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUp6OyrHoMc

[Jimbuna]

A strange thing happened today....TOON won their first Premier League match in twelve games beating Everton 2-0 at Goodison Park.

Nothing to do with Steve Bruce imho but more likely to be the influence from the recently appointed assistant coach Graham Jones.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/vHsgDYqR/Untitled11.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-55870959

[Jimbuna]

https://www.facebook.com/100009354038730/videos/2874947542827019
Just about sums this clown up :)

[Moonlight]

Eventually Newcastle will flirt with relegation once too often and down they'll go, once back down with the other stiffs its going to be a long time before they're back in the premier league, especially with Ashley in charge. :yep:

Is it Bruce, Ashley's or the players at fault, I would say they're all equally to blame, Bruce isn't a good manager, Ashley isn't a good owner and the players aren't much good either which is a bleeding recipe for disaster.
The management will have already seen the relegation writing on the wall this season and they'll be praying that those overpaid pillocks on the field can do something about it.
:hmmm: I think they'll survive this season but some major changes need to take place in the summer because next season.......who knows. :O:

[mapuc]

^ Your comment made me remember what fan of a football team once said to me.

I would rather see my team on top in a lower division than being a sandbag (boxing)for other team in the topdivision.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

TOON are going nowhere until fatty sells up.

[blackswan40]

if the unthinkable happens and the mighty toon go down then the fat controler will be having a fire sale of all the Toons best players (just like Leeds Utd's fall from grace and their fire sale in the early 2000's)
Mr Ashley will have to lower is asking price for Newcastle and if the price is right then suiters will be hovering the Mighty toon will rise again for sure please bring back the sexy direct football the good old faustino asprila days



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq5TM7dxWNA

[Jimbuna]

The alternative being Fatty won't drop his price out of spite to the fans he knows revile him and TOON will end up like the mackems.

Either way I reckon cabbage heed will never get another opportunity to manage a Premiership club again.

He is currently on 57k a week and Fatty certainly won't want to pay out compensation when he is currently looking at his retail empire crumbling in front of his eyes.

[Moonlight]

Its not only his retail empire that's crumbling, you can add Newcastle football club to his list as well, this scenario always happens when things are going wrong.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/premier-league/inside-newcastle-s-civil-war-bust-ups-with-steve-bruce-cowardice-and-fury-over-leaks/ar-BB1eeiFA?ocid=msedgdhp

Sell up you moron and get gone.

[Jimbuna]

Next game is at West Brom. Lose that and it's probably all over.

[mapuc]

Following comment is football related.

One day in the future, hopefully soon I will take the train from Copenhagen to either London and from there on to Newcastle.
or

Train from Copenhagen to Amsterdam and from there sail to Newcastle.

Whatever I chose I'm going to stay at some hotel for 4 nights.

And buy a VIP ticket to one of TOONS homegame

Markus

[Jimbuna]

That will probably mean next season at the earliest Markus.

[Jimbuna]

Saddened to see another of footballs legends, Peter Lorimer has left us. I saw him play quite a few times back in the day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56234156

[mapuc]

To those who like football

What is your opinion on this new European Super League ?

I say it's wrong I do understand why FIFA and UEFA reject it.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I can describe what is being proposed in one word.....GREED!

[Threadfin]

From a supporter's perspective I am not in favor of this. It will remove some of what appeals to me about football. I won't go through the list, but as just one example, having the big teams out means no cup games for minnows against the traditional giants. Giant killings or no, these games have a romance about them, with just the gate from a small team's game at Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge potentially matching their wage bill for the whole year. And if that minnow wins.... New giants would emerge in the vacuum, but it would be bad in the short term.

From a pragmatic perspective I think these clubs should be able to do whatever they please. The notion of United or Liverpool being guardians of the game is archaic, but widely held. But the bottom line is that these are (mostly) privately held companies that should be free to pursue whichever path they decide is best for their self interests. As supporters we may recoil at the thought of a breakaway league, but it isn't up to us.

This idea of a super league has been around a long time. This isn't new, and shouldn't be as shocking as it seems to be. The only shock should be that Spurs are somehow in it :D

[mapuc]

As I wrote on a friends wall

Even though most of us-those I know reject this idea I think we the football supporters, should be prepared for a Pan European League consisting of 3 to 4 divisions 16 to 18 team in each of them.

This as a substitute for CL and EL.

I guess the rules of advancement in such a league would probably be as in English football. Number 1 and the runners up in Champion goes directly up to Premier League and number 3 plays against the last team in PL.

To be honest I really don't know it's only a hunch I have.

Markus

[Skybird]

If fans complain, I could accept that, indepedently form whether I agree or not.


What I cannot accept is that it is highly corrupt, money-greedy organisations like FIFA and UEFA (has no place here, but for the sake of competeness: the IOC) who push themselves for increasing the coin-mining, who complain about this - obviously money-greedy - initiative, set up threats, and obviously worry about their corruption monopoly.



I think we already have TOO MANY tournbaments and matches. The titles have become menaingless, if you inflate the number of tournaments endelssly, and the number of teams allowed.


At the end of such developments, you just get the typical cheap soup of the day: tasteless, overly salty, grey, and forgotten the moment the soup plate is taken away.


Its thw wrong people complaining about this. What FIFA and UEFA complain about is what they themselves are guilty of.



There was such a development in chess, aorund 20 years ago, or even longer. The FIDE, run by a Karpov-loyalist, was faced with a split of initiated by Kasparov, trying to establish an independent professional chess federation. It did not last for long, as I seem to recall.



I have a better idea. Dismantle FIFA and UEFA of all its current poerosneel and fat cats. imit staff ot just a fraction. Limit terms it can serve to just one or two. If two, it must be shorter terms. Install fincial limits from all beginning on: fees, boni, but also pric emoney - everything.



Another idea I sympathise with is to skip all that national team hokuspokus , and replace it with a one big, international Europe league.



My third idea would be to introeuce somethign like they have in Niortamericn sport sleagues: drafting system at the beginnign of a seaosn that are desoigned to allow weaker teams to pick stroinger players first. Can you imagien how BORING it is to always havew the same suspects sitting from begnning to end of the season on the top one or two ranks of the table?


I have stopped even taking note of the Bundesliga results. And when I see a picture ofn the National team, I do not think 2German team", sorry,biut am reminded of an international good will team selection. Plus they all are steamlined, politically correct, tame, lame, clean "Milchbubis". Identification value for me - and myn people more!! - is exactly ZERO. NILL. NONE. I just wait for the day they implement diversity quotas in team rosters, and mandatory gender starlets taking turns for the captain's rank.



I will enjoy the next championship, Löw's last one. I am hopeful for a merciless massacring of the Germans. I will find it most amusing.

[Jimbuna]

It would appear Man city and Chelsea have come to their senses and are withdrawing their interest in the Super League.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56823501

[mapuc]

Been thinking.

Since it would be a kind of piracy who would judge a match in this league, which tv-station would broadcast it ??

A referee is under FIFA or UEFA contract so I guess there will not be many if none referee who would put their reputation at stake.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Money is a great motivator to some people Markus.

[mapuc]

Money is a great motivator to some people Markus.

True indeed.

Now if this league should be a reality and there are some sport channel on the web who broadcast a match between Barcelona and Juventus.
How far will the feeling by a Barca/Juve fan be when it comes to righteousness

I think, that in public many will reject this idea, but when one of these matches is broadcast many fans will forget this.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

As of this morning nine of the twelve teams have withdrawn.

[mapuc]

As of this morning nine of the twelve teams have withdrawn.

Looks like they weren't expecting this kind of response from their fans, media and other organization. In other words they got cold feet.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Looks like they weren't expecting this kind of response from their fans, media and other organization. In other words they got cold feet.

Markus

I'm not so sure, having watched a sports channel link on FB one anonymous board director of one of the British clubs reckons there is still a majority of directors on clubs boards in favour so perhaps there will be further developments in the coming weeks and months ahead.

[mapuc]

Have a league question.

So far I have knowledge on 5 English league.

Premier
Champion
League 1
League 2
National League.(presume this is below league 2)

Are there more ?

Markus

[blackswan40]

Hi mapuc check this out Sir


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system

[mapuc]

Hi mapuc check this out Sir


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_football_league_system

Thank you..why didn't I think of using wiki.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/50nj5bq0/181559159-2933168220337341-3356773180285456101-n.jpg (https://postimg.cc/k6RnqrH3)

[mapuc]

^Not to criticize God, but couldn't he have done a better job

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I'd be lying if I said the thought never crossed my mind :03:

[mapuc]

He has done a good job today.

Who would have thought that they could beat Leicester on their own lawn and with 4 goal.

I was surely surprised when it showed 0-4.

Three important points.

Markus

[Moonlight]

That result tells me the players have been slacking all season, relegation can be a great motivator, especially when it would affect their salaries. :O:

[Jimbuna]

He has done a good job today.

Who would have thought that they could beat Leicester on their own lawn and with 4 goal.

I was surely surprised when it showed 0-4.

Three important points.

Markus

Little to no credit will be given to Bruce by the fans because it was his woeful tactics and game management that got us where we were in the first place.

The credit goes to Graeme Jones who was specifically brought in to shore up the pathetic coaching and training setup that existed.

The players are beginning to benefit from his/Jones input and put in performances commensurate with their real potential.

[Moonlight]

Good grief the Sun Newspaper call this pillock a star and McBurnie's even got the nerve to call himself a striker, :o as for Sheff Utd they got relegated for fielding this useless currant instead of a proper striker, fire whoever was involved in the transfer from Swansea and you might just start getting somewhere. :haha:

SHEFFIELD UNITED striker Oli McBurnie faces a potential police probe after a video of him allegedly attacking a man in the street went viral.

He was joint top scorer for the Blades in his first season with six goals, McBurnie has struggled to find form this season, finding the back of the net just once.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/14907271/oli-mcburnie-street-brawl-sheff-utd/

[Moonlight]

Chelsea Women vs Barcelona Women UEFA Women's Champions League Final

Chelsea Women 0-3 Barcelona Women
Current score After 20 minutes, meh! 1-0 inside of a minute, it seems as if Chelsea are having a bad cup weekend.

It's live on youtube if anyone's interested.

Edit
Half Time
Chelsea Women 0-4 Barcelona Women

That was the final score as well, what a first half whuppin they got.

[mapuc]

My reflection on Premiere League and my team.

There are 20 team in Premiere League one of them has to be last
Does it have to be my team ?

One of them will be number 1
Why can't it be my team ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

There is only one team worthy pf support Markus.....TOON

https://i.postimg.cc/DwKFZnyt/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

There is only one team worthy pf support Markus.....TOON

https://i.postimg.cc/DwKFZnyt/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

:yeah:

Markus

[Moonlight]

^Oh stop bloody encouraging him. :haha:

[mapuc]

Today was the last round in PL.

12th place I had hoped for a place in the top 10....well better than being kicked out of PL. This was what I feared in the beginning.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/cHk5F8p5/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Threadfin]

Liverpool had a poor first half of the second half of the season, so let's call it the third quarter haha. But they buckled down for the run-in and stole third at Leicester's expense. That's massive of course and despite their struggles at times they managed to do just enough. Champion's League is key.

Their title defense fell apart, and well done to City. But with a few good additions and a return of the first choice backline they should be in with a shout next season. Feels like Salah may leave for a new challenge, and the Reds could really use a proper number nine. I like Firmino, he does a lot of the little things well, but I think we could use a more clinical and prolific striker.

West Ham are team of the season for me.

[Jimbuna]

I'm obviously a TOON supporter but imho (and I believe a great many other football fans worldwide) believe those that wanted to create a ESL were motivated by one major ambition and that was pure greed.

As for the Champions League....there is only one Premier League champion, not four.

I think I'll be like many others now and cheer when any of our so-called Super 6 lose a game in the future.

Be interesting to see what the corrupt clowns running the Premier League will do regarding sanctions against said six.

That Masters fellow must be feeling rather foolish lying in his bed at night thinking of how those he allowed to rule him almost destroyed what he rules over...or so he thought.

[Moonlight]

In the old days only one team from each country could enter the "European Cup" competition, It was the same thing with the "Cup Winners Cup" wasn't it?. With all these money making changes over the years football has gone from bad to worse and, the cheating by these modern players is downright disgusting.

I might watch about 10 or so games a year if they're on the TV and, definitely not a Premier League game if I can help it, I've watched 3 games recently, Man City v Leicester, Chelsea v Leicester and 1 women's game Barcelona v Chelsea, there wasn't that much difference between the males and females to be honest. :haha:

Team of the season is without doubt West Ham United, :salute: most disappointing teams, all those who thought they were bigger than their respective Leagues. :O:

[mapuc]

In the old days only one team from each country could enter the "European Cup" competition, It was the same thing with the "Cup Winners Cup" wasn't it?. With all these money making changes over the years football has gone from bad to worse and, the cheating by these modern players is downright disgusting.

I might watch about 10 or so games a year if they're on the TV and, definitely not a Premier League game if I can help it, I've watched 3 games recently, Man City v Leicester, Chelsea v Leicester and 1 women's game Barcelona v Chelsea, there wasn't that much difference between the males and females to be honest. :haha:

Team of the season is without doubt West Ham United, :salute: most disappointing teams, all those who thought they were bigger than their respective Leagues. :O:

As long as the fans can't get enough of it-there will not be any major changes in CL or EL.

On a friends wall I once wrote that CL should be for the teams who has won their highest series in their country. Oh man the response I got from Barca-fans, English fans a.s.o.

Markus

[Threadfin]

I like the way the Champion's League is currently formatted. The only change I want to see at the moment is that teams falling out at the group stage go home, with no parachute in to the Europa League.

[Jimbuna]

I like the way the Champion's League is currently formatted. The only change I want to see at the moment is that teams falling out at the group stage go home, with no parachute in to the Europa League.

Agreed....it's like getting two bites of the cherry :yep:

[Threadfin]

Yep and it seems so unfair to the teams in it already. To suddenly have Inter or United or whatever underperforming giant fails to cut it in the group stage suddenly be thrown a lifeline as the biggest fish in the smallest pond pollutes the sporting nature of the competition, in my view.


The people running and broadcasting the EL like it because big names mean more money. But from a sporting point of view I'd like to see this changed. Lose and go home.

[mapuc]

If I lived in a country where 1-4 of the top football team was directly qualified to CL then I also would like the way it is today.

But live and have family in countries where only the winner can go through many matches before they can be a part of this CL or EL.

Then you see things a little different-That is if you aren't a big fan of the teams who has qualified to CL.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Those minority TOON fans who reckon the 12th place finish was down to Bruce and not the appointment of his assistant Graeme Jones want to come to accept the fact he has just been picked to help coach the England national side at the forthcoming Euro 2020 Championships.

[Moonlight]

This game is live on Youtube if you want to watch it.

Villarreal vs Manchester United | UEFA Europa League Final 2020-21 | Live stream

[mapuc]

This game is live on Youtube if you want to watch it.

Villarreal vs Manchester United | UEFA Europa League Final 2020-21 | Live stream


I'm watching the game on one of our commercial channel.

Markus

[Threadfin]

Come on you Yellow Submarine!

[Moonlight]

Half time.
Villarreal 1-0 Manchester United :haha:

We all live in a yellow submarine.

[mapuc]

Result 1-1 after been investigated by VAR.

In these cases VAR is a great thing.

Markus

[Moonlight]

Villarreal 1-1 Manchester United
Villarreal win 11-10 penalties.

A poor game but excellent penalty taking until the last one. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

:haha:

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/nhqmptST/4537786-11850687.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Threadfin]

I didn't want Villareal to win as much as I wanted United to lose. Too bad for De Gea, but he's on his way out anyway. This just cements it I reckon. He makes too much to be a number two, and it's difficult to ignore his decline in the past two or three seasons. With Henderson appearing to be winning the keeper battle I'd wager De Gea is departing, but most likely on loan due to his massive wage packet. He could be a full transfer, but United would need to sell at a discount to get another side to absorb that contract.

Epic shootout. I couldn't watch the match, but was following it on a live text feed and when they reached the tenth taker you knew keepers were next, and it was no shock that one of them missed. Credit to Villareal for getting it done. I'm not too keen on Emery, but this was his fourth EL title. That's really good.

On the other hand I would have been fine with United winning. I don't rate Solksjaer, I think he is out of his depth at United. He's done better than I would have thought, but him staying there is best from my point of view lol and winning the EL would have boosted his chances to remain in charge.

Woodward was a disaster, one of the worst sporting executives I've seen, and at the same time I had hoped he could continue there for years to come. His departure is the real downside to the Super League haha. All I can say is it was way past time for this move, but without the SL mess he'd probably remain. So United in a way lucked in to getting rid of him by making poor decisions. Keep him in marketing if you must, but he needs to be as far away from transfers and contracts as possible. Well, that's what I'd say were I a United supporter, which clearly, I am not.

United are in the Champion's League anyway, so no great disaster here, but some silverware always helps to paper over the cracks, and I think this makes it four years without any for them.

[Moonlight]

I heard Rashford say in an interview that they were so close to being the finished article, well to be that article they'd need to buy the whole Man City team because the current United team can't even beat a second tier Spain side. :haha:
11 individuals does not make a team Solskjaer, Pogba, Rashford, Fernandes and a few others disappeared when they were needed most, Cavani was in defence as much as he was up front and that just shows how weak United's team is. 4 players are required at United, a central defender, a central midfielder, a winger and a striker, and that little lot is not going to be cheap. oh and Solskjaer, make sure at least two of them are leaders because those pansies you've got at present will win you nothing. :haha:

[mapuc]

I was about to write

I hope your favorite football team in P.L. Will be the best team in the end of the 21/22 season...This can't happen, because only one football team can be best and it will be my team

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDXnXSbUq9c

[Threadfin]

I want to agree with what Moonlight wrote. I think United are several players (and a manager?) away from a title. But then they finished second. They finished second on goal difference too. In a sense, their results don't dovetail with my assessment of their squad. Did they overperform? Or am I underestimating them?

Champion's League qualification will help with recruitment, so let's see who they bring in, and who is leaving. I'd look to move Pogba and De Gea if I were them. One issue is they give contract extensions to players who maybe haven't earned them, and which were not pressing needs, such as Matic. But Woodward's gone (or going soon).

Their rivals will strengthen, Liverpool already did with Konate, which is a good signing, and assuming Van Dijk returns to his best, is a big improvement across the back. All teams will be affected by comings and goings, so let's see how the window goes.

[Moonlight]

Another live game on youtube, are city going to come out fighting this time or will they get sucker punched........again.
Last game I watched between these two teams was a bleeding bore fest which Chelsea won 1-0, unless Man city up their game it'll be the same again.

Prediction, two of them.
Manchester City win if they come out firing on all cylinders.
Chelsea win if they play as defensive as the last time these two met.

Manchester City vs Chelsea | UEFA Champions League Final 2020-21 | Live stream

All going to plan for Chelsea, one change that has to be made is Sterling needs to be subbed.

Manchester City 0-1 Chelsea :haha:

That was the full time result as well.
Excellent teamwork by Chelsea they had the City players tied up in knots for long periods.
Biggest plonker of the night was Pep Gladioli, one of the best players of the premier league era started on the bench, absolute bloody madness by Pep.

Biggest failure on the pitch tonight was Sterling, should never have been on the pitch, Pep needs to get rid of it. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

It didn't really matter who won because at the end of the day it was as simple as oil money v shady money.

[Threadfin]

Remarkable triumph for Chelsea. Not so much for the game, cup finals are a one-off and you never know. But it is remarkable considering where they were 6 months ago.

Chelsea have won two Champion's League titles, and both were during seasons where they sacked the gaffer half-way through. That's pretty remarkable too.

When they hired Tuchel I was skeptical. He had a pedigree, but he always struck me as a systems specialist, who maybe shrunk in charge of the biggest names and personalities. Tactically sharp, but meek, in a sense. But the effect he has had on Chelsea is massive. It was easy to see that Lampard was out of his depth, although I reckon he will come good as a manager with more experience. And to compare Tuchel's results with Frank's is night and day. After his arrival, they've barely conceded. More cohesive, better shape, and this is down to Tuchel.

On the other side, when I saw the team sheets my very first reaction is that (not for the first time) Guardiola was being too clever. De Bruyne as a false nine? No holding midefielder? I haven't seen every City match this season, but I do not recall a single match where either Fernandinho or Rodri wasn't slotted in front of the backline.

It all backfrired as City lacked any cutting edge. You cannot say this was entirely down to his selection and tactics -- like what has happened to Sterling? -- but I think he outfoxed himself and got it wrong.

I'm no Chelsea fan, but I was happy for Havertz who has had a tough season. That goal seals his spot in Blues' lore. It will be a massive lift for him and I expect next season he will be rampant. Chelsea have an imbalanced quad, and if they get it right with incoming and outgoing transfers they will be hard to beat next year. They will go hard for a big name striker this summer like Kane, Lukaku or Haaland. No guarantee they land one, but if they can convert their midfield riches (and Kepa) in to a world class striker and maybe a top centerback I like their chances to challenge for the league with Tuchel pulling the strings

[Moonlight]

^Yep, I wonder how many more seasons the owners are going to give him to win the CL, me thinks the heat is going to be ramped up on Gladioli.

As for Chelsea, a central defender and a striker is a must have, I still haven't seen Werner at his best, that's if he's got a best in him. Anyone else that Tuchel buys to improve the midfield will be a bonus, if they get those 2 or 3 players I'm expecting Chelsea to be a major force to be reckoned with next season.

[Threadfin]

Agreed. I suspect that Guardiola can stay as long as he wants to. But then you look over at Abramovich's ruthlessness and maybe start to think this could work at City too, and get them over the line. I suspect though, if Guardiola had just stuck to what had won them the title at a canter it may have seen them lift the trophy? It's all speculation for the wardroom at this point.

I'm guilty of this too, but for the longest time there has been a sentiment that in order to build success you NEED continuity. A manager in place for a long time, back room staff too. I mean it worked for Fergie right?

But Chelsea buck this trend and they have an enormous haul of silverware since Abramovich took over. And they change managers on average of one per season, seventeen since 2004. Even the 2008 CL final, when they lost to United, was a third CL-final year they changed managers during the season. It helps of course when the purse strings are so loose. I won't argue that they have not purchased their success, but they are hardly alone with big spending. Chelsea have been rewarded for their cutthroat approach and lack of manager sentimentality and perhaps there are other sides where this would pay off as well.

[Jimbuna]

England boss Gareth Southgate to announce final 26-man squad at 5pm tonight.

It may prove interesting to see who he leaves out.

[Moonlight]

England's 26-man squad in full
Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson (Man Utd), Sam Johnstone (West Brom), Jordan Pickford (Everton)

Defenders: John Stones (Man City), Luke Shaw (Man Utd), Harry Maguire (Man Utd), Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Kyle Walker (Man City), Tyrone Mings (Aston Villa), Reece James (Chelsea), Conor Coady (Wolves), Ben Chilwell (Chelsea), Kieran Trippier (Atletico Madrid)

Midfielders: Mason Mount (Chelsea), Declan Rice (West Ham), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund), Kalvin Phillips (Leeds)

Forwards: Harry Kane (Tottenham), Marcus Rashford (Man Utd), Raheem Sterling (Man City), Dominic Calvert-Lewin (Everton), Phil Foden (Man City), Jack Grealish (Aston Villa), Jadon Sancho (Borussia Dortmund), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal)

This is probably the weakest England team I've seen in a long time, based on fitness and form both Sterling and Rashford shouldn't have been picked and that cripple Harry Maguire should have been left at home as well.
The midfield are a bunch of lightweights, they're going to be torn to bloody shreds and what's with Southgate picking 4 rightbacks, what the hell is that all about. Remember the golden generation, well this lot are the brass tack generation who will come running back home to mummy quicker than Rooney's mob did. :O:

[mapuc]

^ I think England will not be the only country with a weak team.

There are many players who hasn't been playing or practicing as much as they wished, due to this Corona.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Worst squad in my living memory yet.....the richest in terms of salary :o

[Threadfin]

Good point about the rightbacks Moonlight. Although I have to say, were I TAA's manager I would be looking to convert him to a winger, a similar trajectory to how Bale's career progressed. Southgate won't want to be running such an experiment in a major tournament, or would he? :)

This is a pretty good England squad, depending on formation perhaps. But I agree too about that midfield. I think England will struggle against sides running more midfielders, such as 4-5-1 and variants (4-3-2-1, 4-4-1-1, 3-5-2, etc). England's midfield has potential to be overrun. Rice can be the destroyer I suppose, but that will be quite the load as I don't see much help from his midfield partners when off the ball.



Remember the golden generation, well this lot are the brass tack generation who will come running back home to mummy quicker than Rooney's mob did.This is the sort of analysis that is all too missing 'round here. Quite right mate.

[Jimbuna]

The Police are now reporting that the banner threatening Rafa and his family (allegedly) was left at the wrong house in Caldy by the Scouse Mackems :haha:

[mapuc]

To my British friends

Is this true ?
Edit
Could those of you who was either Man U fan or TOON fan not see this match ?
End edit

Uefa rules allow countries to have a two-and-a-half-hour window on a weekend when games cannot be shown live on TV.

England has 14:45-17:15 BST as its blackout.

Sky Sports and BT Sport had to pick which September games would be moved for TV on 5 July - long before anyone thought Ronaldo would re-join United on deadline day.

Both broadcasters reportedly decided against trying to change their TV pick at late notice - if it would even have been possible to do so.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58503185.amp

Markus