British Football Thread (all divisions)

[Jimbuna]

Some people have access to live streaming which allows all games to be viewed as they are being played :03:

[nikimcbee]

Remember, like 100 years ago, when subsim had a cricket thread?:hmmm: Do they even play cricket anymore?

[Jimbuna]

Of course, England just played a test series against India that finished a week or so ago.

[mapuc]

The question is how many of us, especially our British friends are interested in Cricket ?

If there is, then someone should create such a Cricket thread-Just an idea.

I have no interest in it. I may read what people write in this thread but that's all.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

On my left arm resides a tattoo of the ECB three lions but I can't see the attraction for many on here regarding the subject matter and the UK home cricket season is about to end.

[Jimbuna]

Former England striker and Tottenham's record goalscorer Jimmy Greaves has died at the age of 81.

Greaves began his career with Chelsea before spells at AC Milan, Spurs and West Ham.

He scored 44 goals in 57 games for England and was a member of the 1966 World Cup-winning squad.

He holds the record for most goals in the English top flight with 357, and scored 266 in 379 matches for Tottenham.

Greaves' 41 goals in 1960-61 remains a record in a season for Chelsea, and he also holds the Spurs record with 37 in 1962-63.

A Tottenham statement read: "We are extremely saddened to learn of the passing of the great Jimmy Greaves, not just Tottenham Hotspur's record goalscorer but the finest marksman this country has ever seen.

"Jimmy passed away at home in the early hours of this morning, aged 81."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58613988

One of my childhood heroes.

RIP Jimmy

[blackswan40]

Back in the day on Saturday dinner time i used have Saint n Greavsie football show made Saterdays that bit more special miss those days


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq34iJS9odQ

[Jimbuna]

Roger Hunt: Former Liverpool and England striker dies aged 83
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58717157

Another legend leaves us.

[mapuc]

From the News here in Denmark I understand that a Saudi consortium has completed the acquisition of Newcastle FC.

Don't know if this is bad or good.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Can't be bad, we are the richest club in the world.

[blackswan40]

Nice to see the Mighty Toon back in the bigtime dont think Brucey will be getting a bonus though

[Threadfin]

Can't be bad, we are the richest club in the world.


Time will tell.

[Jimbuna]

Nice to see the Mighty Toon back in the bigtime dont think Brucey will be getting a bonus though

Poor bloke will have to make do with a 3/4 million compensation package.

Don't know how he'll manage but with the worst statistics of all managers in Premier League history I think it safe to say no other team in the league will employ him.

Time will tell.

It is being reported that four of the so called 'Big Six' are demanding an emergency meeting with the Premier League. You know, that same league they were wanting to leave :)

Man City and Chelsea excepted.

Premier League rivals call for 'emergency meeting' after fury at Newcastle takeover.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-takeover-premier-league-meeting-21810379?utm_source=chronicle_live_newsletter&utm_campaign=nufc_newsletter2&utm_medium=email

https://i.postimg.cc/DZkSZmBV/green-eye.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Threadfin]

On one hand I'm happy that the Toon army may have the answer to their long-suffering dreams. On the other hand, that's some shady money, and despite their 'assurances', Newcastle are now led by the Saudi government.


I'm sure Newcastle supporters are waking up with visions of a City-style rise to prominence, but a blind eye's been turned to make it so.

[Jimbuna]

The UK already sells and trades with the Kingdom regarding types of machinery, aircraft, arms and vehicles, etc. so why insist that a football club becomes the social conscience of the country?

[Threadfin]

I'm insisting on nothing, but surely you have had the same thoughts, no?

[Jimbuna]

The new owner is going crazy, he said to his financial advisors, what the F is this? I told you I wanted a new castle!!!

[Jimbuna]

I'm insisting on nothing, but surely you have had the same thoughts, no?

Apologies, I didn't word that very well. It was meant to be more of a generalisation/blanket term for 'why are some people'

[Threadfin]

No need to apologize, I didn't take it personally, and I don't care to rain on the brightest day for Newcastle supporters in ages, but I think the reasons are self-evident why it is considered questionable by some.

[mapuc]

Not everyone seems to be happy about it.

Newcastle United has sold its name and reputation to a brutal government run by a brutal ruler, the organisation founded by the murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi warned on Thursday night, after the football club was taken over by a Saudi Arabia-led consortium.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/07/english-football-will-sell-itself-to-anyone-human-rights-groups-on-saudi-newcastle-deal

Markus

[Jimbuna]

See previous posts above Markus.

[mapuc]

See previous posts above Markus.

Should have read it more clearly and written my comment differently.

Markus

[Threadfin]

I think it would be fun to play


"Who's signing for Newcastle" now that they have a 190m war chest.


Mbappe, Haaland and maybe Dembele from Barca?


Koulibaly seems set to arrive in January by reports.


Who else? We have a couple months to really sort this out.

[Jimbuna]

Looking on the net it appears that everyone is coming but that is only to be expected under the current circumstances.

ATM I'm more interested in who is going to replace the cabbage.

[mapuc]

I toke the liberty to copy following comment on Newcastle United FB-page.

"
Newcastle deserve it for sure with all the years of suffering under ashley .
But also its a sad world when the football game nowadays is all about money.
Its not like the era of king Kev when basically every team in the league had a reasonable chance of winning the league and all had the same ammount of good players. Look at all the big star players now wanting to come and play as newcastle now have a huge ammount of money and investment. Its a shame they couldnt and didnt want to play for the toon before hand .
Shame stavely and the board didnt keep the players we have and put there wages up just out of principle .
"

(did not correct any misspelling)

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Football is no longer the sport of the working class man.

Those players that come in the next transfer wi9ndow are nothing more than mercenaries....money talks loudest.

[Threadfin]

ATM I'm more interested in who is going to replace the cabbage.

Yes, indeed. With endless resources the world is Newcastle's oyster, isn't it?

New owners often feel compelled to make the biggest splash they can. So it will be a big name, but perhaps not made in management.

It's all very interesting, and I'm eager to see how Newcastle navigate their newfound riches.

Money itself will not fix everything, and they'll need to overcome their lack of European football and their unfancied location to recruit top talent. This will take time, but if they are measured and shrewd it could see them return to the top of English football. If they try to get too big too fast it could backfire. Money is both the cause of, and the solution to, a host of problems :)

[Jimbuna]

Yes, indeed. With endless resources the world is Newcastle's oyster, isn't it?

New owners often feel compelled to make the biggest splash they can. So it will be a big name, but perhaps not made in management.

It's all very interesting, and I'm eager to see how Newcastle navigate their newfound riches.

Money itself will not fix everything, and they'll need to overcome their lack of European football and their unfancied location to recruit top talent. This will take time, but if they are measured and shrewd it could see them return to the top of English football. If they try to get too big too fast it could backfire. Money is both the cause of, and the solution to, a host of problems :)

Agreed :yep:

[Threadfin]

I remember when brighton won 1-0. Good old times.




They did so four weeks ago, and have since won 2-nil and 2-1. Is 1-0 your favorite scoreline or something?


Is there some cryptic meaning in this post?

[Jimbuna]

They did so four weeks ago, and have since won 2-nil and 2-1. Is 1-0 your favorite scoreline or something?


Is there some cryptic meaning in this post?

I've got a feeling the above quoted was a SPAMMER seeing as how I can't trace them in the moderation section :hmmm:

[Threadfin]

OK thanks, but what an odd thing to spam, eh?

In a different forum we were talking about which teams we'd predict would suffer the drop this term. One of my three was Watford, and I was the only one to put them forward. And based on this display, I reckon they've got a shot.

With twenty minutes gone, Watford had completed 19 passes, to Liverpool's 209! Abject display, and we always see a new-manager bounce in this league. Alarm bells must be going off after such a performance. Ranieri's probably thinking, what have I done?

Liverpool go top pending later results.

[Jimbuna]

Hopefully TOON will manage a drawer against Spurs today in front of the new owners but the next transfer window can't come quick enough.

[Threadfin]

European glory is a long way from the Championship. Newcastle had better turn a corner if they hope to stay up.

The atmosphere at the start was electric. I found myself swept up in it, even on tele, and when Wilson struck it seemed for a time that Newcastle's ascendancy had arrived.

But of course you've still got Shelvey, and well, someone pulled the plug and Toon slumped to another defeat. I feel sympathy for Bruce who will surely be on his sword soon, this can't go on, especially given the outlay.

Calling Big Sam, or whichever firefighter they bring in to stave off the drop. Three from eight's relegation form for certain, and the oil boys had better pony up in January.

[Jimbuna]

It might be too late already come January.

The money being made available is not just for transfers but also factors in improvements to the stadium, academy and training facilities so whoever replaces the cabbage will have to be a very experienced person indeed.

My thoughts are we will be relegated and the clubs turnaround will begin in the Championship.

[Threadfin]

Yes, maybe so, but for five minutes yesterday I bet you dared to dream. Even I did and I'm no closet Newcastle supporter.

Investment in the facilities is a good way to go about things. The staff, the players, the advertisers, will all benefit from that. Probably even the locals too.

But gobs will be spent on transfers. I laugh at the 'assurances' claimed separating the Saudi royal family from control of Newcastle. Which assurances exactly are those? Anyway, not much to do about that now, that's done and dusted as the fit and proper persons test is rather narrow in how it goes about it.

The point I'm making is that Newcastle are now, in my view, the personal prestige plaything of these oil barons and as such they will spare no expense bringing the best and brightest talent to Tyneside. A vanity project needs to succeed, and with endless stacks of cash they will attempt to make it so. The fear is, in an attempt to lure the best, a club like Newcastle might pay over the odds, attaching value to the optics instead of sporting considerations. This backs a club in to corners, over-paying an under-performing player is cancerous, and as clubs who have followed a similar approach recently -- like United and Barca -- have found, these players hang around as dead weight, wages out of reach of another club who might otherwise take him off your hands.

In order to make Tyneside an attractive destination for players in demand, money will be the carrot. Over time, should they prove successful in climbing the rungs of the European heavyweights, there will be other reasons the players who could improve Newcastle on the pitch might choose to go there. At the start of this project however there are pitfalls in plain sight. it will be interesting how the new regime chooses to proceed.

[Jimbuna]

So it starts, eight out of ten games in November and December are live on Sky and BT. Everyone wants to watch us now :haha:

[Threadfin]

Looks like their first cash injection was to the broadcast companies!

Hey, how much would it cost to put Newcastle on every week?

How much you got?

*opens briefcase*

About that much. And anyway it's about time since they've been neglected for far too long!

[Jimbuna]

True that :yep:

Mind you, I usually stream every game :03:

[Jimbuna]

The latest attack on TOON by what is fast becoming obvious of a corrupt PL whose strings are being pulled by the so called 'Big 6'

The same 'Big 6' who schemed secretly to be part of a breakaway super league and were only prevented from doing so by pressure from fans almost worldwide.

Hopefully this will end up in court and each clubs shady dealings will be brought to light.

Premier League clubs have voted to temporarily block teams agreeing lucrative sponsorship deals linked to a club's owners after the Saudi Arabia-backed £305m takeover of Newcastle.

Eighteen clubs voted in favour of the ban at an emergency meeting on Monday.

Newcastle voted against and Manchester City abstained, with both questioning the legality of the move.

It means a temporary one-month ban on deals linked to club owners while the issue is debated further.

That prevents Newcastle signing sponsorship deals with companies linked to Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund (PIF), which owns 80% of the club.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58920229

[Threadfin]

I'll not address the whataboutism, because I don't know how clean or dirty these clubs are. But this seems to be an effort to prevent financial doping. Otherwise clubs can move the needle on their FFP figures by sponsoring themselves, which at least circumvents the rules, if not violates them straight up.

If your argument is that 'everyone's doing it' then I don't think that's a reason to not address it.

If you feel this is targeted at Newcastle, you may have a point, because I think City does some of this too. But I don't know enough about the money side of football to be throwing around accusations. But you can bet I don't trust any of them to play fair.

[Jimbuna]

No surprises today then....Steve Bruce leaves by 'mutual consent' and the search is on for his successor.

Jones will be the caretaker until the appointment and hopefully the team can get a few points on the board so as not to be too far adrift come the transfer window in January.

[Threadfin]

You'll end up with Super Frank Lampard.


Grass is always greener eh?

[Jimbuna]

Lampard would be fine by me but I believe talks have already commenced with Paulo Fonseca.

[Threadfin]

Fonseca could be a good choice. He has more experience than Super Frank, and more success too. Roma's the biggest club he's managed, plus a stint at Shaktar. Wasn't he to be Spurs gaffer a couple years ago, but it fell apart over money or taxes? Maybe that's no problem for oil-soaked new owners, but they should be wary they don't pay over the odds (and later get stuck if things go wrong)


Lampard may become a good manager, but judging by his time in charge at Stamford Bridge he needs more experience. He seemed surprisingly naive during his time there. And the fact that Tuchel arrived and with the same players turned Chelsea from one of the most porous sides in to probably the best defensive side in the league. Tuchel's done well, but that reflects badly on Lampard too. He needs to do what Stevie G is doing, pay his dues down the ladder. Lampard had a stint at Derby was it? But he was promoted too fast and if I were a Newcastle supporter basking in our newfound riches, Lampard is not who I would entrust with the keys.

[Jimbuna]

Not disagreeing with the above but anyone (Lampard included) has got to be better than who we've just departed company with.

[Threadfin]

I guess we will see :)

[Jimbuna]

I'm going to watch the Palace game this afternoon and it should be interesting to see if Jones has made any difference to the style and effort of the squad.

[Threadfin]

Yes it will, we almost always see a new manager bounce in the EPL, even an interim one. I suppose those out of favor suddenly see another chance with the new gaffer, or that could be part of it.


Different tactics, shape, motivation, could all play a part today. Palace aren't invulnerable and there's a chance for a result today. Scoreless at the half. All to play for.

[Threadfin]

A draw having 25% of the ball is a good result. Maybe not the performance, but a point's a point.

[Jimbuna]

Possibly only the first or second time I've been in favour of VAR but I'll take a point away any day.

One positive being we looked less vulnerable in defence.

Next up is Chelsea so anything less than conceding seven would be another positive :)

The squad as it is atm will not stop relegation so everything hinges on the January transfer window.

[Threadfin]

Yes, Chelsea are strong this season, they have a very deep squad. Getting a point off them would be a victory for Newcastle.


January recruitment should be quite interesting for your club. Not sure what to make of it really.

[Jimbuna]

Can't believe the scoreline in the match Manure v The Bin Dippers (0-5) :o

[blackswan40]

:D :har: :D

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1223&pictureid=12092

[Threadfin]

Can't believe the scoreline in the match Manure v The Bin Dippers (0-5)


I know, should have been more right? :D

United are paying the price of putting perception ahead of pragmatism. It's the disaster of employing Ed Woodward for so long, or at least giving him the keys to the sporting side, manifesting itself in mediocrity.

There are a number of clubs in English football that seem to be incapable of critical self-analysis, such as Arsenal, who are about to sack Arteta after each loss, but will see the flowers of his vision bloom with each victory.

United though are in a league of their own. Woodward is/was a distinctly terrible director of football, or whatever his title is/was. His transfer policy has been disastrous, handing out suicidal contracts and extensions, getting it all wrong in terms of recruitment, timing, costs and at least displaying a modicum of competency.

His expertise, if it is indeed, is in the marketing side of football, and it's difficult to suggest he has not been successful there. But why they entrusted him with the sporting side is a mystery, and this United side are a reflection in whole of Woodward's mismanagement and ineptitude.

Players like McTominay, Fred, Martial, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof and Luke Shaw are not the level of player needed in a starting eleven for a side with domestic and European title aspirations. Good players, on their day, but not starter-level for an elite club. Would any of those players get a match at City, or Liverpool or Bayern or PSG? United still have Phil Jones on the books! And Mata (who I like but can't get a game) and Matic. These players cost a small fortune to keep around and never play.

He overpaid for De Gea's renewal, clear then, and clearer now. Good keeper, but he's on 375k per week! Allison's on 150 by contrast. Sancho's on 350k and can't get a sniff. And what about van de Beek? Woodward paid 35 million for him and he never plays. There's no common vision here, just buy the names and the rest takes care of itself.

Except it doesn't, clearly. And then there's Solksjaer himself, overmatched from the beginning, but can anyone at the club (aside from the playing staff) actually see this? This has always felt like a nepotistic appointment, one of the boys, who had success and by extension would just carry it to the club like success is a commodity, his glittering past overcoming tactical naivety and the inability to inspire top players. He was managing Molde for a reason. If you have little tactical nous, and are not a man-manager, what is it you bring? That's right, he brought the treble with that goal 30 years ago.

Cavani hardly gets a start, Pogba is a shadow of his potential under Ole, Rashford's always out wide, Maguire's overrated, and their midfield is below the required standard. Yet the squad has cost a fortune, with results that in no way reflect the enormous outlay. It all looks disjointed from here, not that I'm complaining, mind :)

[mapuc]

@ Jim

Is the the appointment of Eddie Howe as the new head coach a good thing or ?

Well it can't get any worse than it already is. No victory yet.

Markus

[Threadfin]

I like it. Unfancied perhaps, but this is the sort of appointment I think is grounded in realistic expectations. He's a fine manager, but he has it all to do.


I think the supporters will have had a more glamorous name in mind, so he will need to win them over, which comes with good play and results. It's a big ask really.


Is he an upgrade over Bruce? Time will tell. He's got seven months to state his case.

[Jimbuna]

@ Jim

Is the the appointment of Eddie Howe as the new head coach a good thing or ?

Well it can't get any worse than it already is. No victory yet.

Markus

I think Threadfin has echoed my thoughts.

[Jimbuna]

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: Man Utd sack manager with club seventh in Premier League.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54826343

Sol Campbell is being quoted online as saying Manure should hire Steve Bruce as an interim manager :haha:

[mapuc]

Maybe it will have some effect. Whether the effect will be positive or negative is to be seen.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

If they enlist the services of the Cabbage Heed it will certainly be a 'negative' effect.

[Threadfin]

The only possible answer is Roy Keane :)

United are a mess, firing Solksjaer but retaining the backroom staff is silly. Ole's not a coach, doesn't really pick the team nor set them up tactically. He's gone, sacrificially, but the men who are also at the center of their crisis remain. Woodward, Mckenna, Carrick, Phelan. All of them should have been sacked.

To sack Ole with no permanent manager ready to step in shows how rudderless they are, and suggests this will get worse before it will get better.

At least Woodward's gone in a month right? Silver linings and all, but I'd be fine if they signed him up for another stint in charge.

[Jimbuna]

BREAKING NEWS:

Potential new manager seen on there way to the managerial job interview.

https://i.postimg.cc/R0t4F8ZR/240770214-3019568171697345-587382775212786715-n.jpg (https://postimg.cc/kV7kYT86)

:):03:

[Threadfin]

Cabbage in Carrington.


That seals it.

[mapuc]

They have a CL-match tomorrow (11/23) against villarreal
and a PL match against Chelsea on Sunday (11/28)

So it is to be seen if sacking Solkjaer was the right thing.

Markus

[Threadfin]

I think it's clear it was the right thing to do.


But the timing's wrong
Having no replacement is wrong
Signing him to a three-year extension just four months ago was wrong
Signing him to be permanent manager after his early good results was wrong (and not necessary at that time)


A poor run of results now is not proof they should have retained Solksjaer. He had to go. He was out of his depth for a club like this.



He meant well, but that doesn't win titles.

[Jimbuna]

Be interesting to see Keane getting the job after having slagged half the team off on television as a pundit in recent times but somehow I doubt that will ever happen.

[Von Due]

Well, man utd proved me wrong by keeping ole for more than 2 seasons. Now will they prove me right by keeping woodward until the end of the universe?

[Jimbuna]

Looking like the interim manager will be Ralf Rangnick.

[Threadfin]

Well, man utd proved me wrong by keeping ole for more than 2 seasons. Now will they prove me right by keeping woodward until the end of the universe?


Woodward's out next month I think. This will be the best thing to happen to United (depending on his replacement of course). Woodward has been a unmitigated disaster in my view.

[Von Due]

Everything has been a disaster for man u ever since the new ownership. I have no particularly warm feelings for man u but it sure must be painful for their fans how the club has deteriorated the past 10-ish years. SAF can't be happy either. Long time ago he was in charge.

[Jimbuna]

I think any TOON fan would happily swap places.

[Threadfin]

Eddie Howe talks without his teeth moving. It's impressive. Perfect diction with his teeth clenched together like his jaw is wired shut.

Not looking much different for Newcastle at the mo. What did you think of the team selection Jimbuna? It's no disgrace to lose at the Emirates (not that they will mind) but so far they look unlikely to come out on top.

This project will take some time I reckon. They need a good window.

[Jimbuna]

It's a miracle they need.

Now in four minutes added time and two nil down.

[Threadfin]

Yeah, I didn't expect them to get anything out of this game, but you never know when a new manager comes in. But they didn't get much bounce did they? Big task ahead of Howe, and he'll need a few results to win the supporters over.

The next two matches are key to drag themselves off the bottom. Norwich then Burnley. Because after that it's Leicester, Liverpool and both Manchester clubs before the fixture list softens a bit.

Liverpool in action now against Southampton. Taking care of business. Finally I get to see my first-choice eleven. Konate over Matip, yes please, and Thiago back in form. The midfield of Fabinho, Thiago and Henderson is a little off, as all three are players who play best in the center of the park. But they make it work, and that's two in two for Thiago. Such a smooth footballer, he is.

Jota up front. I'm a big fan of Firmino, such a smart player, but Jota's just a better finisher. Firmino has great link-up, all the flicks and tricks. He'd thrive I think in a partnership with a poacher-type striker. But Liverpool don't play that way and Jota does a better job of finding space and putting away his chances.

Come on West Ham! And a draw or United win tomorrow please.

[Jimbuna]

Today saw the commencement of the removal of the Sports Direct signs from St James' Park and not a day too soon for the vast majority of TOON supporters.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59550501

[mapuc]

He must been a very unpopular person.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Probably the most unpopular in the north east at this present time.

[Jimbuna]

Kieran Trippier: Newcastle agree £12m fee with Atletico Madrid https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59875348

[mapuc]

He will be a huge improvement to the defence, which is very much needed. As I have pointed out before. Don't know if he has the possibility to "overview" the goal area While defending it

Next is a midfield player or two . With same ability.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

A couple of strikers would also be a bonus.

[mapuc]

A couple of strikers would also be a bonus.

With the little knowledge I have I would say the strikers you have today is good. It's the midfield who in both offensiv and defensiv play is failing.
The strikers does not always get the help they need, nor do the defence.
On the other hand
It's good to have some extra strikers to use in case one of them get banned for a match or so.

Markus

[Cyborg322]

Everything has been a disaster for man u ever since the new ownership. I have no particularly warm feelings for man u but it sure must be painful for their fans how the club has deteriorated the past 10-ish years. SAF can't be happy either. Long time ago he was in charge.

not far off the mark

Simon

[Jimbuna]

Must be a lot of unhappy folk in London :)

[mapuc]

SCANDAL...FIASCO !!!

That is what it is...nothing but a scandal and a fiasco

Cambridge United FC from Football League Two beat Newcastle with 1-0.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

If you can't score a goal you'll never win a game regardless of who the opposition are.

[mapuc]

If you can't score a goal you'll never win a game regardless of who the opposition are.

I expected them to win this match against Cambridge United-Not with lots of goal that is-but with one or two goal.

I know they have some problem in the offensive play, but I didn't realize it was so bad.

You are correct TOON need a few good striker on the team.

Markus

[Moonlight]

Losing in the FA Cup is a blessing as it means they can now focus on losing in the PL which is the priority. :O:

[Jimbuna]

I expected them to win this match against Cambridge United-Not with lots of goal that is-but with one or two goal.

I know they have some problem in the offensive play, but I didn't realize it was so bad.

You are correct TOON need a few good striker on the team.

Markus

There's been a lot said about yesterday's result. Was it a surprise to me, not really as apart from one player we still have exactly the same squad we've had all season who have been very poor and struggling all season at the bottom of the Premier league but let's remember we are only 5 months into this process and it'll take time and patience and things like this will happen. When Man City were taken over they spent £45 million on Robinho and went to Notts Forest in the 3rd round of the Fa Cup and lost 3-0 and there was total uproar but look at them now and how long it took them to get to the level they are at now. I'm not saying we are going to be anywhere near the level of City but my point being it takes time to completely rebuild and there will be a lot of set backs but use City as the benchmark and the time it took them to completely rebuild to be where they are now, there will be set backs that's life but keep the faith things will turn again just be patient and things will get better it just takes patience and time and a lot of hard work but our time will come again.

[mapuc]

^ You are fully correct-It's to early to paint the devil on the wall.

Have hope first step is already being made by Newcastle's newcomer the newest Defence player.

He will mean a lot for the defence. A huge upgrade of it

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Could also mean the end to his international career seeing as how very few Newcastle players have played for England in recent years.

[Moonlight]

Hmmmm, I would say it will take up to 10 to 15 years for the Magpies to be anywhere near a top four slot and probably another 5 after that to be in contention to be Premier League champions. 20 years, I think the owners are going to go through managers and players like a hot knife through butter if they don't keep a lid on it.

They can't go around splashing the cash as 9 out of 10 times it ends in dressing room failure, you need a Pep Guardiola figure to do that and your current manager is not up to it. I'm expecting the Newcastle owners will waste millions on rash player decisions that overrule the managers preferred choices. Me thinks there's going to be fireworks at Newcastle in the near future and it won't be on the bloody pitch.

I keep hearing the media and fans saying they need a striker, really!, that bloody nonsense has been spouted for years and years and usually its the wrong thing to do. Newcastle's troubles goes a lot deeper than that, I would look at the defence first, are they supplying the midfield?, if not, get it seen to. Are your midfield players supplying the striker, if not get that seen to as well, if your striker is getting supplied and he's not scoring then you can blame him and only then.

If the manager hasn't sat the players down today and read them the riot act he needs to be kicked out of the club immediately. Money is a great motivator and if Newcastle do get relegated (and that's not a gimme) you won't see many Premier League teams waving a new contract in the players faces. :O:

Newcastle v Watford on Saturday, if the managers done his job they'll win it, if he hasn't they're in for an uphill slog of a season with no one to blame but them selves.

[Jimbuna]

You may well be right but only time will tell I reckon.

[Jimbuna]

TOON have signed Wood from Burnley for 20 million.

[Threadfin]

It was 25m wasn't it? Whatever the fee, I don't like the signing, even if it weakens a direct relegation rival. But of course that is not a good reason to spend so much cash. He'll bag a few goals, but he's on the wrong side of 30, and Newcastle overpaid on this one I think. Wood is now the most expensive player in English football history over 30 years old.

Trippier's just as old but his fee was only 12m, and I like this signing. Yeah Newcastle needed a striker after Wilson went down, but Chris Wood for 25m? He'd better bag a bunch for that sort of fee.

[Jimbuna]

I have to concur :yep:

[Threadfin]

I reckon if he scores the goals that keep Newcastle up they'll see it as money well spent, even if he turns out to be a rental who leaves on a free in 18 months. And I'd say the same.

If he doesn't find his scoring boots, and they go down, it'll look like a desperate move I think. Experienced Premier League players are valuable in a relegation scrap so I hope he does well.

Will he see the service he needs to prosper? I guess we will find out! I imagine Trippier will be on corners at least from one side. Maybe they can combine for a few set piece goals.

[Jimbuna]

Looking at the names and figures being touted around tells me they're nothing more than mercenaries.

Now I know how the so-called 'big 6' fans must feel.

[Threadfin]

Yeah, good point Jimbuna. But I suppose when you're fighting off the drop a few mercenaries can be your salvation.

With their recent acquisition I guess relegation would be seen as disaster on Tyneside? I suppose so, but the drop isn't the end of the world either for a club like Newcastle. Look at how Fulham are getting on right now and they'll be back up next year. With parachute payments and a premier league quality squad Toon would bounce right back.

But your oil barons didn't splash that much cash to spent Saturdays in Luton Town, did they?

I know the gulf in money is ridiculously vast between the leagues, but sometimes I wonder what's better for supporters, winning every week in the Championship or losing every week in the Premier League. I guess you'd know having been through this the past few years.

[Jimbuna]

TOON have just taken the lead against Leeds

[mapuc]

TOON have just taken the lead against Leeds

By a beautiful freekick and with a little from a football shoe.

They are not in safe heaven yet.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Yeah, good point Jimbuna. But I suppose when you're fighting off the drop a few mercenaries can be your salvation.

With their recent acquisition I guess relegation would be seen as disaster on Tyneside? I suppose so, but the drop isn't the end of the world either for a club like Newcastle. Look at how Fulham are getting on right now and they'll be back up next year. With parachute payments and a premier league quality squad Toon would bounce right back.

But your oil barons didn't splash that much cash to spent Saturdays in Luton Town, did they?

I know the gulf in money is ridiculously vast between the leagues, but sometimes I wonder what's better for supporters, winning every week in the Championship or losing every week in the Premier League. I guess you'd know having been through this the past few years.

My answer would simply be...mixed emotions.

Win or lose, relegation or survival...anything is better than what the previous club owner served up and now he has the audacity to claim £10 million in the High Court accusing the owners of not abiding by a 'no criticism in public' clause against him as part of the sale agreement.

TOON have just won their second game of the season.

https://i.postimg.cc/jjGm58km/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

By a beautiful freekick and with a little from a football shoe.

They are not in safe heaven yet.

Markus

They are now :)

[blackswan40]

a good away win well deserved now the "Mighty Toon" need to build on it and get out of the bottom three :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[mapuc]

They are now :)

Must been looking at the wrong table
Because here in Denmark the Premier League table looks like this:

18 Newcastle 21 2 9 10 21-43 15
19 Watford 20 4 2 14 23-40 14
20 Burnley 17 1 8 8 16-27 11

It is the last three places 18-20 who has to take one step down.

Markus

[Threadfin]

TOON have just won their second game of the season.



A big three points.


Right, they are still the drop zone because Norwich also managed to win, with a brace from Josh Sargent of all people, including a delightful heel flick goal.

[Jimbuna]

I thought you were referring to the final scoreline.

[Threadfin]

L'Equipe reports (https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Transferts-l-ol-et-newcastle-proches-d-un-accord-a-42m-et-8364-10-de-bonus-pour-guimaraes/1313411), after a lot of ups and downs over this deal, that Newcastle's new bid to sign Lyon midfielder Bruno Guimaraes is worth a total of €52m -- an initial €42m, plus €10m in add-ons.Sources have told ESPN (https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfers/story/4579581/newcastle-close-in-on-bruno-guimaraes-signingdespite-lyon-denial-sources) that Guimaraes has been offered four times his Lyon wages at Newcastle, and the move would see him earn £120,000-a-week.

Well now, can't let it burn a hole in the pocket.

The window's almost closed. Better spend it quick.

And Shelvey's on 70k a week right? So 120 a week for this one might not seem so outrageous. By the way, it's a four-fold pay rise over his current deal.

Now let's see if he can be tempted to Tyneside.

[Jimbuna]

The money numbers being splashed about by the media are insane, whether accurate or not but I'm getting the impression the arabs aren't going to let anyone pull their trousers down.

Especially the hierarchy at Old Trafford, if reports regarding Lingard are accurate.

[Threadfin]

Another 5 million and it's over the line and you got your man. Lavish :)

[Jimbuna]

Just got Burn from Brighton for £13 million today.

[mapuc]

Will this have a positive effect on the rest of the football team ?

I hope so

Markus

[Jimbuna]

As long as he is better than what we already have,,,,then yes.

[Jimbuna]

Reims accept new improved offer for striker Hugo Ekitike. He becomes only the fourth player in Premier League history to have a palindrome surname.

[Jimbuna]

Forget the above, the deal has broken down.

[Threadfin]

Toon ranks are swelling. Matt Target too eh?


Too bad about the palindrome dude. What an interesting bit of trivia. Thanks for that.

[Jimbuna]

Aye, we've had a great transfer window and spent more than Fatty did in fourteen years of January windows.

We now need them to gel together as a team and hopefully avoid relegation.

[Threadfin]

I never would have thought I'd type this but....

Newcastle are the window's biggest spenders!

It must feel like you're stoned.

[Jimbuna]

One can only imagine what the summer window will be like in comparison.

[Threadfin]

Heady times indeed. Now you've got to avoid the drop.

Newcastle had a good window it must be said, but I would have wanted a signing or two on the offensive side. They got Wood, yeah, who should score a fair few. By the way, Burnley turned around and spent 15m of the Wood bonanza on Wolfsburg's Wout Weghorst, another towering target man, who is probably at least as good, a little younger and even taller. No knock on Newcastle, but this was well played by Burnley who didn't want to lose Chris Wood, but turned it around deftly, and if Weghorst settles quickly, might have gotten better and made some money along the way.

Still, Newcastle were shrewd to shore up the defensive side of the ball. They're a better side now, and should be much tighter at the back. Not flashy, but should be effective.

Guimaraes is the signature statement signing. He may have come for the wrong reasons (oil-soaked cash fountains), but there's no doubt this is a quality player. He's a ball-winner with an eye for a pass and if he settles and doesn't hate the weather up there he should be a star in this league.

Anything can happen, but if Toon stay healthy, I think they've done enough here to stay up. Just gotta find some goals.

[Jimbuna]

Aye, another striker would have been the icing on the cake but I'll run with what we got....five more than we would have under Fatties ownership.

Looks like the Cabbage is in advanced talks with West Brom. I bet Carroll won't be all that happy.

[Threadfin]

The cabbage pitched up at West Brom indeed. Well, good for him I guess.


Two wins on the bounce eh Jimbuna? And out of the drop zone. Howay the lads! At this rate you'll be challenging for Europe before long.

[mapuc]

Hope Westham give him a big kick in his behind so he fly far away from the stadium and every other team should reject him- Giving him a fine is a hoax.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17576996/kurt-zouma-cat-kick-slap-video/

Markus

[Jimbuna]

The cabbage pitched up at West Brom indeed. Well, good for him I guess.


Two wins on the bounce eh Jimbuna? And out of the drop zone. Howay the lads! At this rate you'll be challenging for Europe before long.

A step in the right direction and hopefully soon to be followed by many more.

[Jimbuna]

Hope Westham give him a big kick in his behind so he fly far away from the stadium and every other team should reject him- Giving him a fine is a hoax.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17576996/kurt-zouma-cat-kick-slap-video/

Markus

Yes, I watched that earlier and didn't like it at all.

It is being reported he may yet face prosecution and his club have fined him two weeks wages which are to be donated to the RSPCA

[Jimbuna]

Uefa likely to move Champions League final from St Petersburg in Russia https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60474920

[Jimbuna]

TOON climb to dizzy heights of 14th after a 2-0 win at Brentford.

[Jimbuna]

Head coach Marcelo Bielsa has been sacked by Leeds United after a run of poor form that saw his side suffer several heavy defeats.

The 66-year-old Argentine, appointed in June 2018, leaves with the Whites two points above the relegation zone.

Under Bielsa, Leeds finished ninth last season on their return to the Premier League after a 16-year absence.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60529015

I know results haven't been good of late but I'm still surprised at this development.

[blackswan40]

Have Leeds Utd pulled the rug from underneath Bielsa too early yes i know results ain't been good conceding 20 goals in five games a premier league record.

Bamford and Philips should be back for Aston Villa Game and the next six games are winable
Leicester Aston Villa Norwich Wolves Southampton Watford
all Leeds need to do is have three teams below them come the end of the season and theres twelve games left it ain't over until the fat lady sings.

[Threadfin]

I know results haven't been good of late but I'm still surprised at this development.


It was not sustainable. At the time, Leeds had shipped 60 goals

Last season Leeds scored 62 goals in 38 games (1.63 goals per game) while conceding 54 (1.42)

This year they've scored 29 in 26 (1.11) while shipping 60 (2.30!).

Injuries have played their part (Bamford, Phillips) but something had to change as they are dangerously close to the drop.

Not sure Marsch will be the answer, although he has had success, particularly at Salzburg. And they did look pretty good in the Leicester loss, which they did enough to win (except score).

Shame that Bielsa got the sack, but it clearly wasn't working this year.

[Jimbuna]

The team that are currently surprising to me on form and league position is Everton, especially so if Spurs turn them over tonight.

[Threadfin]

Yes, Everton should be better, and their spot in the table is despite a hot start, if I recall correctly.


I suspect they'll survive, but only just. But their position is so precarious that a poor run combined with wins from below could seal their fate. SuperFrank has his hands full, but compared to the clubs below them I think they have enough to stay up. I hope so, because I wouldn't want the battle of Stanley Park to be gone. I want Everton to suffer, but not so much they take the drop.

[Jimbuna]

I should imagine should the worst scenario come to be, Rafa will burden much of the blame despite his short involvement this season.

[Threadfin]

No doubt he will, and some of that would be fair. But the fact they sit a single point off the drop zone falls more at the feet of the board, who should never have signed Rafa in the first place. I think the tribalism that exists in English football is silly, the notion that a player or manager who turns out for a rival team is a traitor to be hated. But it does exist, and as a result it felt like Rafa never really had a chance. A mountain too high to climb.

Both he and the board compounded their problems with the Digne mess. To sell him, then turn around and sack Rafa was inept.

The current owners bought the club in 2016 and since then there have been six managers. They also have a net transfer spend in that time of over 600m pounds, and yet the club feels full of misfits, players other teams have cast off. And they are far too reliant on Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin for goals. When they are both out, which was the case earlier, where are the goals going to come from? Townsend? Iwobi? Rondon? Cenk Tosun? Not likely.


I actually like their central mids. Allan, Gomes and even DvdB are good players. But Everton have so little cutting edge. 28 goals for in 24 matches leads right where they are now.

[Jimbuna]

I blame that ex-mackem with the little arms :O:

[Jimbuna]

Chelsea "seized" by HMG...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60690362

[Moonlight]

Moan, moan, moan United.
"Manchester United's Champions League campaign ended in the disappointment of defeat by Atletico Madrid at Old Trafford to leave them with only a Premier League top-four place to fight for this season."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60740334

Paul Scholes "we should be able to go out and get the best manager in the world". Those words are the same entitled arrogance that has got Utd where they are today.

They're on a road to nowhere and they're going to be on it for a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFgayzZ5KTM&ab_channel=noselkie

A shot in the arm or a kick in the pants.
Newcastle United are again getting some good results in another late season charge up the table, if this continues they could end up in the top ten. I'm not sure if this is the managers tactics or the owners giving the players a rocket up their behinds but whichever it is, it should go down like a bottle of newkie brown with the fans.

[Jimbuna]

[B]A shot in the arm or a kick in the pants.
Newcastle United are again getting some good results in another late season charge up the table, if this continues they could end up in the top ten. I'm not sure if this is the managers tactics or the owners giving the players a rocket up their behinds but whichever it is, it should go down like a bottle of newkie brown with the fans.

It most certainly is :yeah:

[mapuc]

It most certainly is :yeah:

Indeed it is-Except the last game they played.

Did not see it-I missed it. Know only the result 1-0 to Chelsea

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Indeed it is-Except the last game they played.

Did not see it-I missed it. Know only the result 1-0 to Chelsea

Markus

The most controversial VAR decision so far this season watch from 1:08 onward

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2146-s9iN0

STONE WALL PENALTY!

And prior to that here is the goal scorer getting away with a red card offence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPU6It7vPMo

VAR....don't you just love it!

[mapuc]

Can't see the first video. The second I could and I agree it should have been a red card. A football player has to have control over his body-knowing where his arm are in situation like the one in the second video where these to player jump up for nicking to the ball.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Tis a pity regarding the first video because that shows the dead cert penalty that wasn't given or even referred by VAR

[Moonlight]

I didn't want to bring that controversial Chelsea game up as it would have sounded like I was jumping on the Abramovich bashing bandwagon and Im not gonna do that. :03:

[Jimbuna]

TOON away to Everton tonight.

[mapuc]

I couldn't see the match -Birthday and family visiting me.

But I have read about it-And manner talking about some scandal scene in the match.

What's critical on Newcastle's play is they lost the match even with one man more in the end.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Worst performance under Howe so far.

[Jimbuna]

Granted it isn't British but rather than start a new thread.

Russia's football federation has dropped an appeal against Fifa's World Cup suspension that was imposed after the country's invasion of Ukraine.

The Football Union of Russia had protested against the ban but the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) says the FUR has now withdrawn that appeal.

Russia had qualified to face Poland in a play-off semi-final but the Poles instead received a bye to face Sweden.

However, Russia will continue to fight bans from other sporting competitions.

Those include Uefa's ban on Russian sides competing in European club tournaments, such as Spartak Moscow's ejection from the Europa League.

Uefa have also prohibited the Russian women's national team from competing in Euro 2022 in England this summer as a number of countries have refused to compete against Russian opposition.

The 2022 Champions League final, originally due to be played in St Petersburg on 28 May, has also been moved to Paris.

Russia has also filed appeals seeking the annulment of its bans from international gymnastics, rugby, rowing, and skating events.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61001565

[blackswan40]

Leeds Utd away at Brentford and Burnley at home to the Mighty Toon on Sunday 22nd May both games 4:00pm kickoff.
Leeds need to do better than Burnley to stay up hoping the mighty Toon can do Leeds a Big Favour but i cant see Leeds beating brentford we might scrape a draw.

[Jimbuna]

Leeds will have to win a point more than Burnley because their goal difference is worse by a margin of twenty.

[Moonlight]

BBC News ticker goes rogue: Viewers are told that 'Manchester United are rubbish' and 'weather rain everywhere' before red-faced presenter apologises and blames it on a trainee

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10849267/BBC-blames-trainee-news-ticker-says-Manchester-United-rubbish-weather-rain-everywhere.html?ito=video_player_click#comments

Today the BBC News got something right for once, even though they tried to backtrack on it later, they blamed a Ticker trainee for it who in my opinion deserves a massive payrise for telling the truth. :haha:
Surely they have a Ticker that can overlay these messages over their live feeds without it being put on display, if they haven't got one then I suggest the BBC pour some extra resources into their hardware before giving their staff overblown salary upgrades.

[Jimbuna]

You simply couldn't make it up :)

[Jimbuna]

The Premier League has approved the £4.25bn takeover of Chelsea by a consortium led by LA Dodgers co-owner Todd Boehly.

The league says the consortium has passed its owner's and directors' test.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZWdM6u7Guk

[Jimbuna]

2022 England 2-1 Germany The Year of the Lioness :yeah:

[Catfish]

Congratulations.. this could well have been the other way round :03:

[Skybird]

Congratulations.

I watched it with one eye, not really being caught by it.


Was that handplay penalty correctly not given, or a mistake by the referees? In the TV slowmo they showed it looked like clear handplay by the English defender ?!

[Catfish]

In the TV slowmo they showed it looked like clear handplay by the English defender ?!
It was and should have been given. Also one of the best german players Alexanda Popp was not able to play due to muscle problems, another top player went out because of corona.
Both teams were good, so one can live with the outcome, and it was Wembley after all :)

I am more furious about the game against France that had turned into a french foul fest without ever been stopped by the irish referee.

[mapuc]

It was.

I did not see the match I can however say that this will be discussed among people for years to come.

Markus

[Skybird]

I am more furious about the game against France that had turned into a french foul fest without ever been stopped by the irish referee.
And the French were played by the Germans or the English? Would have a special taste if it were the English...

[Jimbuna]

And the French were played by the Germans or the English? Would have a special taste if it were the English...

If it had been the English they'd have surrendered before kick-off :O:

[Skybird]

It seems history has repeated itself. Such mistakes must not happen on this level, in a final. It seems the video referees had both eyes shut. Third time something like this happens to German teams (2x Wembley the English, 1x the Argentinians, Maradona's hand of God).

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/sport/fussball/schiri-versagen-im-em-finale-warum-hat-keiner-das-handspiel-mitbekommen_id_127470246.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=de&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

And from 00:30 on:
https://www.bild.de/video/clip/sport-videos/em-finale-englanddeutschland-der-wembley-betrug-im-video-80870874.bild.html

Penalty, very clearly.



https://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/image-b4a43745c083cc7eeef9f18f09b025ad-80870878/4,c=0,h=558.bild.jpg

But then, quite some things in football are left to amateur standards "for tradition". For example time taking. It should be done like in ice hockey, on and off when the whistle is heard, and then no overtime anymore. I have not seen the match, but I read that the time delaying by the English in the end was excessive, some commentators are furious.

Not meaning to spoil the party, its over anyway. But this is making waves over here.

[Moonlight]

Oh for ****s sake Germany, don't become like our citizens who eat sour grapes with everything, take it on the chin like a man woman, or buy a bleeding violin and play it at midnight every night so it will forever be remembered as Germanys biggest catastrophe.....until the next one happens.

Here I was thinking you were above all that losing sour grape nonsense, apparently not. :damn:

Edit
At least your women football players can say that they were much prettier to look at than some of those English lassies. :haha:

[Catfish]

^ Huh? :o
Where i live all accepted the outcome, and were having a drink on England and the lionesses. Which is why today's bureau day SUCKED :wah:

[Moonlight]

It seems as if some of your countrymen aren't in agreement with your area Catfish. :O:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/wembley-german-media-euro-2022-england-b2135500.html

[Catfish]

Ah the Bildzeitung, you know this is almost like the UK Express.

On the other hand i think the irish referee's non-decisions on french fouls the game before appeared as cheating indeed, but "we" (lol) still won :smug:

Germany is used to have to be twice as good to be accepted as "equal" :O:


edit: The Postillion writes:
"How cowardly can one be? Lionesses shoot a victory goal in extra time only to avoid a penalty shoot-out"
and
"Sometimes you lose, sometimes the others win"

[Jimbuna]

It seems as if some of your countrymen aren't in agreement with your area Catfish. :O:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/wembley-german-media-euro-2022-england-b2135500.html

I doubt if it would have been any different in some UK press circles had the boot been on the other foot (no pun intended).

[Moonlight]

^What do you mean by some?, they like nothing better than our sportsmen & women getting kicked in the teeth all of the time, it gives them a chance to vent their spleens while they're making a mountain out of a molehill. :yep:

[Moonlight]

A complete overhaul of this club is needed if they are going to win the Premier League again.

Manchester United 1 2 Brighton & Hove Albion

The circus is back in town, there might be a new ringmaster at that club but the clowns are still all there, dear Brighton, on behalf of the entire football world, THANK YOU.

[Jimbuna]

TOON overwhelm Forest with minimal effort but tougher tests and stiffer opposition surely lie ahead.

[mapuc]

Ecuador face being kicked out of the World Cup after Sportsmail obtained new evidence of a shocking admission from one of their players of using a false birth certificate, with the confession made in an official investigation that was covered up by the Ecuador Football Federation [FEF].

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11203773/Ecuador-face-kicked-World-Cup-new-evidence-Byron-Castillo-Colombian.html

Markus

[Jimbuna]

TOON took Fulham apart 4-1 yesterday.

https://i.postimg.cc/d1MjLRMJ/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

TOON tanked Brentford 5-1 today.

https://i.postimg.cc/cHHHZ3bm/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[blackswan40]

The Mighty Toon up to 5th Eddie's at the Wheel hope the Canni Lads keep it up would be nice to see em in Europe

[Jimbuna]

The Mighty Toon up to 5th Eddie's at the Wheel hope the Canni Lads keep it up would be nice to see em in Europe

Most certainly would :yep:

[Jimbuna]

West Bromwich Albion have taken the decision to relieve Steve Bruce of his duties, with the club confirming this news in a club statement this morning.

:haha:

[Jimbuna]

TOON win 2-1 at Spurs to go fourth top.

https://i.postimg.cc/8zYZv8VR/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

TOON thrash Aston Villa 4-0

https://i.postimg.cc/PJ94Pmjh/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Moonlight]

Newcastle are doing very well.
What a difference a coach can make who is getting the most out of the players, I hope they won't get too giddy as a few injuries in key areas can ruin a season for the best of teams.

Liverpool can't seem to get going this season, matching the highs of last season is going to be challenging for Klopp, I'm thinking a few changes of personnel from last season is having a knock on effect on the team. Klopp will have his work cut out to get into the Champions League next year if he doesn't fix this in the next few games.

Winter is fast approaching and that's where a team can lose momentum, we shall see in April\May whether these two teams have jumped the hurdles or have come crashing down to earth. :O:

[Jimbuna]

TOON went to Southampton today and thrashed them 4-1 taking them to third in the Premier league.

https://i.postimg.cc/qvtBgF3K/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

The England World Cup squad has been revealed.

Gareth Southgate revealing the 26 players he is taking to Qatar.

This England World Cup squad includes three Newcastle United players.

Congratulations to Kieran Trippier, Callum Wilson and Nick Pope, who have all been excellent for Newcastle this season.

https://i.postimg.cc/rphj7C6J/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

TOON saw Chelsea off 1-0 last night to cement their third place in the league.

https://i.postimg.cc/vTQBgBSh/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[blackswan40]

The Mighty Toon up to 2nd in the Premiership shining a light for the north
the cani lads will be in europe next season Jim.

[Jimbuna]

Early days yet but I certainly hope so.

[Jimbuna]

TOON face their toughest test of the season away to Arsenal tonight.

https://i.postimg.cc/2yvR058M/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Football regulator: UK government confirms new independent body

Blocking clubs from joining a breakaway European Super League will be among the powers held by English football's new independent regulator.

The plan for a regulator, recommended by a fan-led review last year, has been confirmed by the UK government.

Preventing historic clubs going out of business is one of the aims, as well as giving fans greater input and a new owners' and directors' test.

The significant move aims to protect English football's cultural heritage.

The main purposes of the proposed new regulator will be:

Stopping English clubs from joining closed-shop competitions, which are judged to harm the domestic game.
Preventing a repeat of financial failings seen at numerous clubs, notably the collapses of Bury and Macclesfield.
Introducing a more stringent owners' and directors' test to protect clubs and fans.
Giving fans power to stop owners changing a club's name, badge and traditional kit colours.
Ensuring a fair distribution of money filters down the English football pyramid from the Premier League.

"The English game remains one of the UK's greatest cultural exports, with clubs and leagues around the world modelling themselves on its success," the government said before its white paper on football governance - a policy document which outlines the proposed legislation - is released on Thursday.

"That is why the government is today taking the necessary and targeted steps to ensure that continues for generations."

The Premier League was understood to be wary of a regulatory body when the proposals were announced in April last year.

The league says it is "vital" a regulator does not lead to any "unintended consequences" that could affect its global appeal and success.

What will the regulator cover?

European breakaway leagues

Six English clubs - Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham - were among a dozen from across the continent that announced plans to form a European Super League in a shock move in April 2021.

It sparked a tumultuous few days in English and European football.

Fans quickly demonstrated their anger at the plan outside English clubs' stadiums - with similarly vitriolic protests taking place across Europe - forcing the Premier League clubs to back down and apologise.

Despite the U-turn, the debate over the future of top-level European football has continued.

"The regulator will have the power to prevent English clubs from joining new competitions that do not meet a predetermined criteria, in consultation with the FA and fans," said the government.

"That criteria could include measures to stop clubs participating in closed-shop breakaway competitions which harm the domestic game, such as the European Super League."

Financial stability and fans' input

A new licensing system will require every club - from the Premier League to the National League - to prove it has a sustainable business model implemented by responsible custodians as part of an application process.

If clubs are not granted a license by the regulator, they will not be allowed to compete.

Another key power of the regulator will be ensuring fans have a greater say in their club's strategic decisions.

Moves by owners which may prove controversial - for example, changing the name, badge and traditional kit colours, or moving stadium - will not be allowed to be made before consulting fans.

It will "put fans back at the heart of how football is run", says the government.

Additional owners' and directors' test

The test to determine the suitability of owners and directors of English clubs has long been under scrutiny.

The regulator will introduce an "enhanced" test which will operate alongside the current process implemented by the Premier League, Football League and Football Association.

According to the government, it will lead to "ensuring good custodians of clubs, stronger due diligence on sources of wealth and a requirement for robust financial planning".

The suitability of Premier League's owners' and directors' test has been criticised in the past, most recently following the Saudi Arabian-backed takeover of Newcastle.

Amnesty International urged the league to change the test to address human rights issues, with the Saudi state accused of human rights abuses.

A bid for Manchester United by Sheikh Jassim bin Hamad Al Thani, the chairman of one of Qatar's biggest banks, has also raised concerns among human rights and LGBTQ+ groups.

Requirements that currently prohibit someone from becoming an owner or director of a Premier League club include criminal convictions, a ban by a sporting or professional body or breaches of key football regulations such as match-fixing.

Fairer distribution of wealth

The regulator will have backstop powers to impose a new financial settlement, which effectively means it can force the Premier League to share more money across the pyramid.

EFL chairman Rick Parry wants a 25% share of pooled broadcast revenue with the Premier League, merit-based payments across all four divisions, and the abolition of 'parachute payments' to teams relegated from the top flight.

But the EFL has told its clubs it is "not hopeful" of securing the settlement it is looking for.

While discussions between the bodies are ongoing, the new regulator will force arbitration if an agreement is not reached.

"The Premier League remains the envy of club competitions around the world and the government remains fully behind its continued success," said the government.

"But in order to secure the financial sustainability of clubs at all levels, a solution led by those running the leagues and their clubs is needed, and remains the government's preferred outcome.

"However, if the football authorities cannot reach an agreement the regulator would have targeted powers of last resort to intervene and facilitate an agreement as and when necessary."

The Premier League has said it gives away 15% of its revenue already and in 2020 also agreed a £250m rescue package to help ease the financial challenge faced by EFL clubs as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic.

Parachute payments are solidarity payments made to help relegated sides adjust to lower revenues. Clubs receive 55% of the amount each Premier League side get as part of a share of broadcast revenue in the first year after relegation, followed by 45% in year two and 20% in year three.

The payments have been criticised for creating 'yo-yo' clubs and financial disparity between sides in the Championship.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64536218

[blackswan40]

The Mighty Toon at Wembley today against that team that play in red from other side of the Pennines


Listening on talksport cheering on the Toon wondering if the Buna's at Wembley

[Jimbuna]

Watched it at home and have to admit the best team on the day won.....sadly.

[blackswan40]

Newcastle started well but then the team in red got their act together but the Mighty Toon are on the march shining a torch for the north trophies and titles will come the Toon will be a Premiership Powerhouse in 2-3 seasons.

[mapuc]

Last week I bought a 65" QLED Smart-tv.

Watching nature program is fantastic and watching a football match like TOONS match today was an experience-and then they lost the match :wah:

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Newcastle started well but then the team in red got their act together but the Mighty Toon are on the march shining a torch for the north trophies and titles will come the Toon will be a Premiership Powerhouse in 2-3 seasons.

https://i.postimg.cc/RFd61CNn/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Just back from a hospitality bash at the TOON watching us win 2-1 against Wolves.

A great many thanks to my brother.

https://i.postimg.cc/ncPD6fgB/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[blackswan40]

Good win for the Mighty Toon against Nottingham Forest they could get dragged back into relegation fight its getting tight down there.
Hoping Leeds Utd win against Wolves on Saturday.

[Jimbuna]

I'm hopeful of hospitality on 2nd April at home to Manure.

[blackswan40]

The Might Toon smash five past the Hammers some of West Hams defending was woeful at times if they are not carefull they'll be dragged back into the relegation zone.

[Jimbuna]

Was a great game......the magpies are currently flying high.

https://i.postimg.cc/d30v0bFb/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

WOW what more is there to say than WOW.

5-0 against Tottenham after 20 min.

Talking about total meltdown by the Hotspurs

Finish result 6-1.

Markus

[Cyborg322]

Plans must of been brought forward 3 months

Cambrian News Article

"Open season on shooting magpies to end
For decades, shooters enjoyed open season on magpies — a breed they considered to be vermin. Now, Natural Resources Wales has given the species new protections that take effect on 1 July."


https://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/news/open-season-on-shooting-magpies-to-end-546486

[Jimbuna]

WOW what more is there to say than WOW.

5-0 against Tottenham after 20 min.

Talking about total meltdown by the Hotspurs

Finish result 6-1.

Markus

Dozens of Spurs fans streamed out of the stadium before half time and their goalkeeper/captain didn't appear for the second half having supposedly picked up an injury.

https://i.postimg.cc/MGMQKz2B/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

Dozens of Spurs fans streamed out of the stadium before half time and their goalkeeper/captain didn't appear for the second half having supposedly picked up an injury.

https://i.postimg.cc/MGMQKz2B/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Then I wouldn't call them fans- A real fan stay with their team in sickness and health.

Next match is away, where they shall Everton. Who is in danger to be kicked down.

Which mean TOONS can play in defence and contra.

Markus

[blackswan40]

Newcastle 6 Spurs 1 Newcastles attacking display was great to watch the Toon Army are back up to 3rd one place above Manchester Utd.
We are now at the final run in and its very tight at the bottom who's staying up who's going down it will come down to which team has the most fight and who wants it the most from what ive seen in the past two weeks Leeds Utd have given up but If/When we go down we have been relegated to the Championship before and it took us 16 years to come back if the unthinkable happens Leeds are relegated and the 49ers take us over the team will look very different there will be a mass exodus from Elland Road then we build again the leeds fans are always there home and away for they bleed Yellow White and Blue ALAW.

[Jimbuna]

Far too tight to call at the bottom with six games remaining but I think it will be three from the current bottom five.

[mapuc]

I know how they feel, these Everton fans..Had the same feelings last year, where I was frustrated and sad when Newcastle FC lost more than they won.

This year have been filled with Joy while watching them play, despite they have lost a few matches.

I hope they will end in top 4 so I can see them play CL next year.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Eddie Howes black and white army HWTL

https://i.postimg.cc/J7jpxtcY/343435871-604935441582912-1694970901547062557-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/yYBvbBL1/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

A great result at home today against Southampton. Ended up 3-1 winners despite going a goal down early in the game and further reinforce our third place position and a step closer to Champions League qualification.

https://i.postimg.cc/7P3rRQsn/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

Next match is Arsenal...do not dare to predict the outcome of this match-I hope Magpies will win or at least get a draw.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

TOON have now qualified for Europe but as yet unclear which competition as that is dependant on final league position.

https://i.postimg.cc/vm6V9SfC/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Last nights draw at home to Leicester means we are now confirmed as having qualified for the Champions League.

Very well done to Eddie, the team, the owners and everyone in the black and white army.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZnTssHrP/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Moonlight]

Manchester City win the Champions League Trophy, well, not really they haven't, they decided to bleeding buy it instead. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

Oil money has dramatically and fundamentally changed football now.

[Jimbuna]

Congratulations to the England team after winning the U-21 Euros and further congratulations to TOON player Anthony Gordon for winning the best player of the tournament award.

[Jimbuna]

R I P Trevor

[Jimbuna]

New season has commenced and TOON are at home to Aston Villa today.

https://i.postimg.cc/7Zxw72P6/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

WOW 5-1 Well this was more than I had expected. I had expected a win for the TOON's but 5 goal where 3 was scored by newcomer(if I got it right)

It was a home game and this mean a lot.

Next match is away against MCI.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Bring it on, it will be tough but we fear nobody atm.

https://i.postimg.cc/XYgxx3pj/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Aktungbby]

...:hmmm: one wonders if there'll be a "Howay the Gals" banner when the British Lionesses take the 2023 World Cup?:O: the more so as there are any number of Yorkshire and NE English ladies consistently on the World Cup teams .:yeah:

[Jimbuna]

Indeed and the Lionesses take on the Matildas in the world cup semi final tomorrow.

Mustn't forget Newcastle Ladies.

https://i.postimg.cc/kgFQDxV5/nufc-women.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

The Lionesses are through to the final against Spain after beating the Matildas 3-1 :yeah:

[Jimbuna]

TOON are away to the current champions Man City tonight. A test to see just how far we have progressed.

https://i.postimg.cc/B6r5CS9v/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

PSG
Dortmund
Milan

Is the teams Newcastle shall meet in group F in the Champions League

Don't know when first game is scheduled to start.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

19th or 20th next month, yet to be finalised.

[Jimbuna]

It is now confirmed TOON will play away at Milan 19th September 17:45

[mapuc]

Eight - Nil(8-0) to Newcastle away at Sheffield United.

A great game to watch-I agree on what the commentator said-Someone will get sacked(fired)

Saw a stream of spectators leaving the stadium after 5-0.

What's also interesting was-There was 8 different goal scorers.(If I remember correctly)

Markus

[Moonlight]

^Sheff United are still a championship team so I wouldn't read too much into that score Markus, me thinks they'll be seeing a lot more results like that one in the months ahead.
They're in a catch 22 situation, if they play open football and attack they're gonna get slaughtered by the top teams and if they play defensive football for the rest of the season they're not gonna get enough points to stay in the premier league.
They've some tough choices to make and sacking the manager isn't one of them, there's nothing he can do that will save this team, its the lack of quality players that will be their downfall nothing else.

[Jimbuna]

Great result for the TOON

https://i.postimg.cc/NGZdPcbr/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

The former Manchester City striker and chairman Francis Lee has died at the age of 79 after a long battle with cancer, the Premier League club have announced.

Lee became a legend at Maine Road, where spent eight years as a player, joining City from hometown club Bolton Wanderers in 1967 for a club record £60,000. During his time at City, he won the First Division, FA Cup, League Cup and European Cup Winners’ Cup, scoring 148 goals in 330 appearances for the club, before ending his career at Derby County where he won another league title.

Lee was a barrel-chested striker known for his ruthless shot and precision from the penalty spot, once scoring 15 spot-kicks in a single season. A Lee penalty sealed City’s 1970 European Cup Winners’ Cup triumph over the Polish side Gornik Zabrze.

In addition to club honours, Lee won 27 caps for England, all while a City player, scoring 10 goals in the process and represent his country at the Mexico World Cup in 1970.

R I P Sir

[Moonlight]

Liverpool v Spurs VAR: PGMOL releases audio of Luis Diaz's controversial disallowed goal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66998252

VAR!, bloody hell, they've made this system so complicated that wrong decisions like this one are being made, there's no need for all this bollocks, was he onside or off, if onside, it's a goal, if offside it's a free kick, keep it simple you plonkers.

Why is this VAR rubbish making decisions on the offside rule and practically everything else as well?, I thought it was brought in to check that a ball had crossed the goal line?, scrap the whole bleeding lot of it and let the referee and the linesmen do their jobs. Of course there'll be screwups, it's part and parcel of the game in it, but it mostly worked over the last 100 years or so, and even when the officials screwed up it all blew over in less than a week anyway, just use VAR for the goal or not a goal, simples.

[Jimbuna]

LiVARpool forever the victims in football.

Didn't hear them whining the four or five times they have bee on the right side of wrong decisions against the TOON.

No sympathy whatsoever.

[mapuc]

The Statistic for this evenings CL match between New and PSG
said that PSG had the ball 65-70 % of the times and guess what TOON who only had the ball rest of the time won the match with 4-1.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

The TOON march on.

https://i.postimg.cc/2yh7VJh2/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Manchester United defender Harry Maguire has now spoke out about his future at Old Trafford just months after being linked with a move to Newcastle United.

The 30-year-old looked almost certain to leave Man United during the summer transfer window, having been stripped of the captaincy by Erik ten Hag. He came close to a move to West Ham, only for that deal to collapse.

There was also a lot of noise about interest from Newcastle. It was reported late in the window that the Magpies could make a move for Maguire, after Sven Botman had suffered an injury during the defeat to Liverpool.

There was never anything concrete, but the names ‘Maguire‘ and ‘Newcastle United‘ did continuously find themselves next to each other in the gossip columns. We even saw pundits suggesting that the pair would be a good fit, with Shay Given hinting that Eddie Howe had made a mistake not making a move.

Since the transfer window has closed, Maguire has barely featured for Man United. He has started just one Premier League game, and it sounds like he will not put up with his lack of minutes for much longer.

[mapuc]

Will he be a huge benefit for the TOON's defence ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

MOST DEFINITELY NOT.

[Jimbuna]

TOON take out Crystal Palace 4-0 to move up to fifth in the league.

https://i.postimg.cc/gkHBvPD9/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

I missed the first 15 min or so.
Next match is on Wednesday against Dortmund in CL

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Sir Bobby Charlton, England World Cup winner and Man Utd legend, dies aged 86
Charlton won 106 caps for England and scored 49 international goals - records for his country at the time.
He was diagnosed with dementia in November 2020
"Sir Bobby passed peacefully in the early hours of Saturday morning" - Charlton family.

If you hadn't watched a game of football and didn't see him play, you would just see him as this normal guy. He was so humble about everything he had won.

When you read out everything he has done in the game, how many trophies he has won, appearances he has made and goals he has scored, he could have been excused for having a little bit of arrogance about him. But there was absolutely none of that at all.

I don't think you will ever hear anyone say a bad word against him.

Alan Shearer

[mapuc]

R.I.P Sir Bobby Charlton

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/SxtdrQYP/6753d6f1-9282-43a4-8493-cfc8edef75e6.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Man City fans heard singing sickening Bobby Charlton chant as club issues statement :nope:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/bobby-charlton-man-city-fans-31251448

[Jimbuna]

Everton have received an immediate 10-point deduction after being found to have breached the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules.

The punishment is the biggest sporting sanction in the competition's history and leaves Everton 19th in the table on a new total of four points.

The club said it was "both shocked and disappointed" by the "wholly disproportionate and unjust" ruling.

Everton have said they intend to appeal against the decision.

[Moonlight]

Next up, Chelsea and Man City for the chopping block, unlike Everton, I suspect that they'll have some top notch lawyers arguing their case for them. Do you thiink that the oil barons would throw some money at the problem?.
What!, you mean a bribe?, No, No, No, just an incentive to come to the correct decision, that is all. :har:

Start checking their bank accounts. :O:

[Jimbuna]

I've read from a couple of sources that on appeal the points deduction will come down to between 3 and 6.

[Moonlight]

I think upon reflection they'll realise that they've shot themselves in the foot as they will have to give Man City the same proportional punishment as Everton have just received, all in the name of fair play and all that. Me thinks that every club in the land will have a right to have a say in things if these idiots don't give City that same kind of punishment.

IAN HERBERT: At least Everton came clean - unlike secretive Man City, but their 10-point punishment displays a Premier League intent on making an example of a club, in a pre-emptive strike against independent regulation

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12763871/Everton-Man-City-Premier-League.html

[Jimbuna]

Call me biased but I'm surprised it wasn't Newcastle they made an example of (if they were able).

There is a vote on 21st about preventing clubs loaning from associate clubs which is obviously intended to prevent Newcastle from loaning players from the four clubs in the Saudi league which are currently owned by PIF.

[Jimbuna]

TOON answered a lot of recent criticism today when they thrashed Chelsea 4-1 today.

https://i.postimg.cc/1zQBf0Np/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

Terry Venables: Former England manager dies aged 80 after a long illness.

R I P Terry

[Jimbuna]

TOON were robbed at PSG last night. So much so the VAR official has been suspended with immediate effect by UEFA.

[Moonlight]

EXCLUSIVE: Man City and the Premier League agree date for trial over 115 financial rule-break charges - with expected timing for the verdict FINALLY set, when they could face a huge points deduction

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12809173/Man-City-Premier-League-agree-date-tribunal-financial-rule-break-charges.html

Points deduction, are you having me on? if they're guilty of even a third of these charges Man City should be facing relegation to the National League. Those multi millionaires' will be running away from Manchester faster than the speed of sound. :O:

[Jimbuna]

TOON are drawn away against the Mackems in the third round draw of the FA Cup.

https://i.postimg.cc/rwj3nJbg/1aa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[blackswan40]

Mackems new manager candidates

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1223&pictureid=13384

[Jimbuna]

My fancy for the job.

https://i.postimg.cc/W1q78qpt/FCItn44-XMAMM-D.jpg (https://postimg.cc/QFs5xtTr)

[Moonlight]

Wayne Rooney: Birmingham City sack manager after just 15 games in charge

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67858866

Why the hell did they replace the old manager with this useless Grandma Shagging Twonk I'll never know. Rooney, said 'it will take me some time to get over this setback' and plans to spend time with wife Coleen and their children as he looks for his next job.
I wouldn't employ this currant on his previous managerial endeavours, **** off into obscurity you tosser and stay there. :O: