Chill Winston! (Neal vs OSP - youtube vid!)

Nordmann · 02-18-10, 07:16 AM

The impression I'm getting here, is that Neal does not have a copy with the OSP enabled.

TH0R · 02-18-10, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann

The impression I'm getting here, is that Neal does not have a copy with the OSP enabled.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...3&postcount=71

My prayers are with this statement. But, you know how they say, assumption is the mother of all...

Nordmann · 02-18-10, 07:31 AM

Indeed, it's possible that the two games have differing implementations, but then that raises the question as to why? Surely, if you're going down the OSP road, then you use the same system across all of your products.

Brag · 02-18-10, 07:52 AM

Good and informative vid. Was it PC Gamer who also expressed doubts about their DRM version? They definetely had a different version than Neal.

The Enigma · 02-18-10, 08:05 AM

It is obvious that the preview will not have the final version of OSP build in.

UBI will do everything to prevent OSP from being broken before release date of the final game.

evan82 · 02-18-10, 08:54 AM

Maybe some special profit we have here? 1-4 minutes disconected - ok, 4 and more - Game Over!

skwasjer · 02-18-10, 03:48 PM

I'm not surprised at all the preview didn't crap out.

It makes sense the game only polls at intervals. Not even Ubi in their right mind would make a system that requires a permanent connection as such that it keeps a constant TCP-port open. That's simply not viable as far as server resources go, and chances of the server dropping the connection are much higher (+ it is more difficult to balance load). Instead, it probably is just a https-request from the client every few minutes containing a handshake request/response pattern, which - when succeeds - allows you to continue to play. And when not - well, BOOM!

If anything I believe a) Neal was lucky

or b) Ubi's polling system is timed at 5 minutes+ (or will retry a couple of times before bombing out) or c) the preview will not dump you at all (as opposed to the retail).

java`s revenge · 02-19-10, 05:52 AM

I don`t deal with your opions. Neal let me see enough to be satisfied.

02-19-10, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by java`s revenge

I don`t deal with your opions. Neal let me see enough to be satisfied.

Please make another post, right about now your number of posts is 666.

Otherwise, I may think of you and your opinions in a distorted way.

java`s revenge · 02-19-10, 06:13 AM

Wow, what a reaction. I feel this as an attack.

I don`t let me be intimidated.

02-19-10, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by java`s revenge

Wow, what a reaction. I feel this as an attack.

I don`t let me be intimidated.

It's not an attack, it was just a joke, when I attack, I am a little more aggressive.

java`s revenge · 02-19-10, 06:23 AM

Ok friend, i can live with that.

I thought your meaning was different.

I am open for jokes

Onkel Neal · 02-19-10, 06:42 AM

This came to me from GameStar, not sure what he's saying, I think it's something about Onkel Neal showed his game would continue after a disconnect of many seconds, proving his superioirity, send him flowers, etc.. but it appears for him, the game went into cardiac arrest after about 10 seconds.

02-18-10, 07:16 AM	#1
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	The impression I'm getting here, is that Neal does not have a copy with the OSP enabled. __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

02-18-10, 07:31 AM	#3
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Indeed, it's possible that the two games have differing implementations, but then that raises the question as to why? Surely, if you're going down the OSP road, then you use the same system across all of your products. __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

02-18-10, 07:52 AM	#4
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Good and informative vid. Was it PC Gamer who also expressed doubts about their DRM version? They definetely had a different version than Neal. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-18-10, 08:05 AM	#5
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	It is obvious that the preview will not have the final version of OSP build in. UBI will do everything to prevent OSP from being broken before release date of the final game. __________________

02-18-10, 08:54 AM	#6
evan82 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 555 Downloads: 197 Uploads: 12	Maybe some special profit we have here? 1-4 minutes disconected - ok, 4 and more - Game Over! __________________ MY MODS - evan82's XXI Water StreamVIIB War Skin IIevan82's XXI Skin...

02-18-10, 03:48 PM	#7
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 3	I'm not surprised at all the preview didn't crap out. It makes sense the game only polls at intervals. Not even Ubi in their right mind would make a system that requires a permanent connection as such that it keeps a constant TCP-port open. That's simply not viable as far as server resources go, and chances of the server dropping the connection are much higher (+ it is more difficult to balance load). Instead, it probably is just a https-request from the client every few minutes containing a handshake request/response pattern, which - when succeeds - allows you to continue to play. And when not - well, BOOM! If anything I believe a) Neal was lucky or b) Ubi's polling system is timed at 5 minutes+ (or will retry a couple of times before bombing out) or c) the preview will not dump you at all (as opposed to the retail). __________________ S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) - S3D homepage - Open sourced S3D file parser API's - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO

02-19-10, 05:52 AM	#8
java`s revenge Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: at periscope depth Posts: 1,204 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 0	I don`t deal with your opions. Neal let me see enough to be satisfied. __________________

02-19-10, 06:13 AM	#10
java`s revenge Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: at periscope depth Posts: 1,204 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 0	Wow, what a reaction. I feel this as an attack. I don`t let me be intimidated. __________________

02-19-10, 06:23 AM	#12
java`s revenge Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: at periscope depth Posts: 1,204 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 0	Ok friend, i can live with that. I thought your meaning was different. I am open for jokes __________________

02-19-10, 06:42 AM	#13
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	This came to me from GameStar, not sure what he's saying, I think it's something about Onkel Neal showed his game would continue after a disconnect of many seconds, proving his superioirity, send him flowers, etc.. but it appears for him, the game went into cardiac arrest after about 10 seconds. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web