Guides and Training

Drebbel · 03-25-07, 05:44 AM

Adding Index of previously stickied threads.

Real Submarine Technology & History Q&A

How to re-install SH4! Also Vista Installation Tips

In this thread we will link to the various discussion that explain how to operate SH4, especially things that seem unclear to so many skippers. But please remember that this thread is not intended to be an online manual !

Easy and Fast Speed Estimation

Tutorial for 100% realism manual targeting

Legion's Noob Guide

Tutorial Video: Advanced Firing Solution using Sonar only

Guide: How to Complete a Mission

The Poem in the Opening Movie

Do The Test: Can my rig run SH4 ?

TDC Instructional Video

Radar and Sonar Explained

Fasttip: Sonar begins to pick up contacts at a few feet below periscope depth.

Guide: How to Complete a Mission by Beery

How to End a Mission / Patrol ?

Target Speed Calculation Made Easy

TDC Discussion

Torpedo Data / Values

Passing Thermal Layer and DC's attack?

Meaning of Water Colors on the Map

Submarine Specs Historically

Submarine Specs in SH4

Deck Gun Ammo

Photo Recon missions

Chart Water Color/Depth Key

Damage Control Explained (pics)

Voice Activated Commands (VAC)

Renown Chart

Low Voice Sounds

Map of the pacific

Guide: Convoy Interception tutorial

Don't hesitate to contact one of the moderators to let us know about another thread that belongs to this list. But of course you are also very welcome to post in this thread.

Rockin Robbins · 03-26-07, 02:41 AM

Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks--Techniques, tactics, tutorials, videos

Discussion on this topic begins here.

Well, we're giving the old WernerSobe thread the old heave ho and starting a new tactics thread. Of course we're still going to feature all of Werner's great work and maybe repost some of his best stuff here. All links will be preserved, and since they will lead to Werner's thread, all that great material will continue to help all the great skippers at SUBSIM. This first post will contain all the tactics links I can cobble up. If anyone else has some that were left out PM me and we'll get them included. Here we go with Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Mark I:

US Navy Links:
The Fleet Type Submarine Online
The Submarine Commander's Handbook
The Submarine Torpedo Fire Control Manual
Torpedo Data Computer, Mark III

WernerSobe links:
link fixed 6/23/15
link fixed 6/23/15
link fixed 6/23/15

Aaronblood's Links:
MoBo: Electronic Maneuvering Board and Dead Reckoning Tracker

Rockin Robbins' links:

.......brand new video 8/14/2015!!!!

The Dick O'Kane Manual Targeting Written Tutorial (includes the U-Boat Fast-90 Technique too!)
.......link repaired again 5/23/2012!!!!
.......link repaired 7/23/2015!!!!

Printable 3x5 Crib Cards for Above Techniques
Further Explanation of the 3 Main Attack Method Families

Tale's links:
Convoy Multi-targeting Video #1
Convoy Multi-targeting Video #2
Radar Approach Video Tutorial

Rocks'n'Shoal's links:
Constant Bearing Technique with TDC thread

HalfjackHJ's links:
.......new addition 5/3/2012!!!!

Edit: 8/14/09
And a very important and useful part of Subsim history:

Edit: 10/22/09
From the guy who started it all, gutted:
Solution Solver 1.3
The sound you hear is me munching on my words "I believe in attack methods using only in-game tools: no external calculators, no alt-tabbing out of the game for external software, nothing that would damage your immersion into the submarine." YUM! This tool is so useful that it cannot be ignored. You'll be glad to kill the immersion a little and astounded at the sophistication and ease of use of this software torpedo fire control tool.

Edit: 12/15/09
Ducimus link:
SH3 & SH4 "Uber" AI Explained
This is a detailed explanation of how escort sonar works and how to handle your submarine to give you maximum advantage. It also explains how the enemy AI works so your strategy can actually work FOR you instead of being counterproductive. This work is of vital importance to any player of SH3 or SH4 especially if running Brand X in 3 or TMO in 4.

Whew! What a collection! Do we have enough yet? NO! But I'm just trying to get everyone I've promised inclusion in this thread together in the same place. Enjoy!

SH4 Video Thread
Formerly a sticky topic, here is the link.

AoB Calculator based on CapnScurys Realism Tutorial
Link to formerly stickied topic.

Onkel Neal · 03-26-07, 07:20 AM

Tips by journalist Andy Mahood

How do you take the pictures?

Pull up the periscope screen (don't just hit the F4 key but click the periscope station twice to display all the scope related buttons) and you'll see a "photograph" button on the far right. You have to lock the target with the 'L' key to activate it.

Does it eventually consider the mission "complete" after you patrol for 24 hours in the area? Nope. I have no idea what triggers complete on a sink cargo ships mission. If it's actually sinking cargo ships, then I guess the mission was completely impossible.

Try patroling the area for 48 hours. That was the trick in one of my first missions. 24 hours wasn't enough.

jimmie · 03-26-07, 01:24 PM

Thanks, and I'd suggest changing the blue text on dark metal to yellow, pink, light green, or even light blue or whatever else anything easier on eyes.

Drebbel · 03-26-07, 01:32 PM

Sorry mate, can not read have of what you wrote ?

Many colors are almost invisible in the Lazyblue theme. But I did desipher your message and made some changes :-)

jimmie · 03-26-07, 01:40 PM

No, I have seen use of that blue by some people before and it was hard to see because the background is dark so less contrast to bg color and the front.. If it's only me, I should correct my monitor setting (I think my eyes are ok) but I assume my monitor setting is not far off from majority and with that, that blue is not easy to see.

Not a big problem. Thanks for changing it

, here, the conversation stopper exits

clayp · 03-26-07, 09:26 PM

I have tried to watch these training video's on two different systems and all I get a screen that looks like modern art..Whats the trick?...

Elder-Pirate · 04-12-07, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Tips by journalist Andy Mahood

Does it eventually consider the mission "complete" after you patrol for 24 hours in the area? Nope. I have no idea what triggers complete on a sink cargo ships mission. If it's actually sinking cargo ships, then I guess the mission was completely impossible.

Try patroling the area for 48 hours. That was the trick in one of my first missions. 24 hours wasn't enough.

Have not seen any more answers here but when I run completly out of torps ( whether I've completed mission or not, or maybe I'm 1000 nm somewhere else, maybe I've never been to the patrol area ) then Radio Pearl my ships status and a few minutes later when I click on the "M" key it shows the patrol completed and I head back to Pearl. ( so far all its been is Pearl

) So I think thats the trick....When you run out of torpedoes.

Onkel Neal · 03-28-07, 06:15 PM

One player posted this:

Quote:

here is a breakdown of the colors and their corresponding depth ranges on the Nav map. There are 5 water colors and land. In the chart below, 1 is the color (white) closest to land and 5 is the color (darkest blue) representing the deepest water.
0 = land (0+ ft)
1 = 0-48 ft
2 = 48-175 ft
3 = 175 - 490 ft
4 = 490 - 850 ft
5 = 850+ ft

Iceman · 03-30-07, 02:21 AM

Thks for the links..game arrived other day and got the patch installed...all running great no crashes or anything running game on high graphic settings etc...I had problems with SH III and never got into it because of crashes etc and had played some with SHII so kinda got a feel for it but now having fun with the tutorials and getting the feel for torps and evading...this game will be loads of fun I'm sure...as soon as I get a little more sea time under my belt can't wait to hit some MP with ya guys.Always leary about mods so I'll be paying attention to you guys postings about such...

horrgakx · 03-31-07, 03:46 PM

Thanks for the videos. Unfortunately my question didn't get answered by these - I'm not using manual TDC (and didn't in SH3).

First issue is that when I sight a ship, in SH3 it displayed a graphic of the ship with its depth etc, it was then easy to go F6 into my attack screen and set up each torpedo depth-wise, then open all the bow-caps in preperation. In SH4 I do not get the diagram, I can't set the torp depths as easily, and I can only open one bow-cap at a time.

Second, I had 2 ships, one following the other. My torp depths for tube 1 and tube 2 were set differently. I sighted the first ship, locked with "L" and fired. I sighed the second ship, locked with "L" and fired. BOTH torpedoes hit the same ship!!!! WHY? In SH3 I'd have got clean hits on both ships, so why did 2 torps go for the same target when I sighed 2 different targets?

Dave

Gizzmoe · 04-17-07, 09:49 AM

Added Guide: How to Complete a Mission to the list.

Aimbot · 04-17-07, 11:57 PM

I'm shocked that our readers aren't linked to the moral responsibilities I've foistered upon them.

Shocked and appalled.

sqk7744 · 04-21-07, 03:58 PM

Moved to: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...d=1#post511523
by request.

sqk7744 · 04-21-07, 04:02 PM

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03-26-07, 09:26 PM	#7
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	I have tried to watch these training video's on two different systems and all I get a screen that looks like modern art..Whats the trick?... __________________ clayp

04-17-07, 11:57 PM	#13
Aimbot Medic Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 160 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm shocked that our readers aren't linked to the moral responsibilities I've foistered upon them. Shocked and appalled. __________________

04-21-07, 03:58 PM	#14
sqk7744 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ~About 60' below Posts: 1,150 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Tutorial- Submarine Attack Course Finder (Is-Was Banjo) Moved to: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...d=1#post511523 by request. __________________ " All Ships can dive, but only Submarine's surface!" MODS: KillFlags - Elco PT109 - AOB Attack Course Tutorial Last edited by sqk7744; 04-23-07 at 10:32 PM.

04-21-07, 04:02 PM	#15
sqk7744 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ~About 60' below Posts: 1,150 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Drebbel or Gizzmoe: Did I move the above correctly? tnx --- __________________ " All Ships can dive, but only Submarine's surface!" MODS: KillFlags - Elco PT109 - AOB Attack Course Tutorial

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03-25-07, 05:44 AM	#1
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Guides and Training Adding Index of previously stickied threads. Real Submarine Technology & History Q&A How to re-install SH4! Also Vista Installation Tips In this thread we will link to the various discussion that explain how to operate SH4, especially things that seem unclear to so many skippers. But please remember that this thread is not intended to be an online manual ! Easy and Fast Speed Estimation Tutorial for 100% realism manual targeting Legion's Noob Guide Tutorial Video: Advanced Firing Solution using Sonar only Guide: How to Complete a Mission The Poem in the Opening Movie Do The Test: Can my rig run SH4 ? TDC Instructional Video Radar and Sonar Explained Fasttip: Sonar begins to pick up contacts at a few feet below periscope depth. Guide: How to Complete a Mission by Beery How to End a Mission / Patrol ? Target Speed Calculation Made Easy TDC Discussion Torpedo Data / Values Passing Thermal Layer and DC's attack? Meaning of Water Colors on the Map Submarine Specs Historically Submarine Specs in SH4 Deck Gun Ammo Photo Recon missions Chart Water Color/Depth Key Damage Control Explained (pics) Voice Activated Commands (VAC) Renown Chart Low Voice Sounds Map of the pacific Guide: Convoy Interception tutorial Don't hesitate to contact one of the moderators to let us know about another thread that belongs to this list. But of course you are also very welcome to post in this thread. Last edited by Onkel Neal; 08-18-15 at 07:22 PM. Reason: removed link to patch v1.2 notes to avoid confusion about it

03-26-07, 02:41 AM	#2
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks--Techniques, tactics, tutorials, videos Discussion on this topic begins here. Well, we're giving the old WernerSobe thread the old heave ho and starting a new tactics thread. Of course we're still going to feature all of Werner's great work and maybe repost some of his best stuff here. All links will be preserved, and since they will lead to Werner's thread, all that great material will continue to help all the great skippers at SUBSIM. This first post will contain all the tactics links I can cobble up. If anyone else has some that were left out PM me and we'll get them included. Here we go with Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Mark I: US Navy Links: The Fleet Type Submarine Online The Submarine Commander's Handbook The Submarine Torpedo Fire Control Manual Torpedo Data Computer, Mark III WernerSobe links: link fixed 6/23/15 link fixed 6/23/15 link fixed 6/23/15 Aaronblood's Links: MoBo: Electronic Maneuvering Board and Dead Reckoning Tracker Rockin Robbins' links: .......brand new video 8/14/2015!!!! The Dick O'Kane Manual Targeting Written Tutorial (includes the U-Boat Fast-90 Technique too!) .......link repaired again 5/23/2012!!!! .......link repaired 7/23/2015!!!! Printable 3x5 Crib Cards for Above Techniques Further Explanation of the 3 Main Attack Method Families Tale's links: Convoy Multi-targeting Video #1 Convoy Multi-targeting Video #2 Radar Approach Video Tutorial Rocks'n'Shoal's links: Constant Bearing Technique with TDC thread HalfjackHJ's links: .......new addition 5/3/2012!!!! Edit: 8/14/09 *And a very important and useful part of Subsim history:* Edit: 10/22/09 *From the guy who started it all, gutted:* Solution Solver 1.3 The sound you hear is me munching on my words "I believe in attack methods using only in-game tools: no external calculators, no alt-tabbing out of the game for external software, nothing that would damage your immersion into the submarine." YUM! This tool is so useful that it cannot be ignored. You'll be glad to kill the immersion a little and astounded at the sophistication and ease of use of this software torpedo fire control tool. Edit: 12/15/09 *Ducimus link:* SH3 & SH4 "Uber" AI Explained This is a detailed explanation of how escort sonar works and how to handle your submarine to give you maximum advantage. It also explains how the enemy AI works so your strategy can actually work FOR you instead of being counterproductive. This work is of vital importance to any player of SH3 or SH4 especially if running Brand X in 3 or TMO in 4. Whew! What a collection! Do we have enough yet? NO! But I'm just trying to get everyone I've promised inclusion in this thread together in the same place. Enjoy! SH4 Video Thread Formerly a sticky topic, here is the link. AoB Calculator based on CapnScurys Realism Tutorial Link to formerly stickied topic. Last edited by Onkel Neal; 08-16-15 at 10:11 PM. Reason: adding this topic here, we don't need two threads on tips and guides

03-26-07, 07:20 AM	#3
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Tips by journalist Andy Mahood How do you take the pictures? Pull up the periscope screen (don't just hit the F4 key but click the periscope station twice to display all the scope related buttons) and you'll see a "photograph" button on the far right. You have to lock the target with the 'L' key to activate it. Does it eventually consider the mission "complete" after you patrol for 24 hours in the area? Nope. I have no idea what triggers complete on a sink cargo ships mission. If it's actually sinking cargo ships, then I guess the mission was completely impossible. Try patroling the area for 48 hours. That was the trick in one of my first missions. 24 hours wasn't enough.

03-26-07, 01:24 PM	#4
jimmie Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 259 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks, and I'd suggest changing the blue text on dark metal to yellow, pink, light green, or even light blue or whatever else anything easier on eyes.

03-26-07, 01:32 PM	#5
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Sorry mate, can not read have of what you wrote ? Many colors are almost invisible in the Lazyblue theme. But I did desipher your message and made some changes :-)

03-26-07, 01:40 PM	#6
jimmie Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 259 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No, I have seen use of that blue by some people before and it was hard to see because the background is dark so less contrast to bg color and the front.. If it's only me, I should correct my monitor setting (I think my eyes are ok) but I assume my monitor setting is not far off from majority and with that, that blue is not easy to see. Not a big problem. Thanks for changing it , here, the conversation stopper exits

03-30-07, 02:21 AM	#10
Iceman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mesa AZ, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,253 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Thks for the links..game arrived other day and got the patch installed...all running great no crashes or anything running game on high graphic settings etc...I had problems with SH III and never got into it because of crashes etc and had played some with SHII so kinda got a feel for it but now having fun with the tutorials and getting the feel for torps and evading...this game will be loads of fun I'm sure...as soon as I get a little more sea time under my belt can't wait to hit some MP with ya guys.Always leary about mods so I'll be paying attention to you guys postings about such...

03-31-07, 03:46 PM	#11
horrgakx Ensign Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 230 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the videos. Unfortunately my question didn't get answered by these - I'm not using manual TDC (and didn't in SH3). First issue is that when I sight a ship, in SH3 it displayed a graphic of the ship with its depth etc, it was then easy to go F6 into my attack screen and set up each torpedo depth-wise, then open all the bow-caps in preperation. In SH4 I do not get the diagram, I can't set the torp depths as easily, and I can only open one bow-cap at a time. Second, I had 2 ships, one following the other. My torp depths for tube 1 and tube 2 were set differently. I sighted the first ship, locked with "L" and fired. I sighed the second ship, locked with "L" and fired. BOTH torpedoes hit the same ship!!!! WHY? In SH3 I'd have got clean hits on both ships, so why did 2 torps go for the same target when I sighed 2 different targets? Dave

04-17-07, 09:49 AM	#12
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Added Guide: How to Complete a Mission to the list.