U-BOOT_HAHD Official Thread

[Cybermat47]

Hi guy's,

All the work you saw from HAHD mod is not wasted in any way since everything almost 98% of it are re use in Atlantic Warfare



What?! I thought you were going to waste several years of work :haha:

[Myxale]

No prob' old man.

Jsut keep us up to date on the KS-campaign. Looking forward this one. :salute:

[Hans Witteman]

No prob' old man.

Jsut keep us up to date on the KS-campaign. Looking forward this one. :salute:

Hi Myxale,

I knew we can count on you since you are one of the very few supporting us since the beginning and we appreciate that my friend.

Doing a project like ATWAR is a pure delight since now we have full control over all the game mechanics we want to see in and wait until the first gameplay footage will be release i think you will understand and agree with our choice.

We have even other talented artists waiting to join in once we have the necessary support.

If we were to wait for another developer to do this kind of Sim i think we wont have enough time to see it happen in our lifetime.

Regards Hans

[Schwieger]

Hi Myxale,

I knew we can count on you since you are one of the very few supporting us since the beginning and we appreciate that my friend.

Doing a project like ATWAR is a pure delight since now we have full control over all the game mechanics we want to see in and wait until the first gameplay footage will be release i think you will understand and agree with our choice.

We have even other talented artists waiting to join in once we have the necessary support.

If we were to wait for another developer to do this kind of Sim i think we wont have enough time to see it happen in our lifetime.

Regards Hans

As has been stated before, Hans, no need to worry about the nay-sayers. All of us here are well aware of the amount of work and time you and the team have put into the UBootHAHD project. We're expecting (no, we know) the same sort of effort and caring to go into the ATWAR as well, and are looking forward to seeing the first screenshots & videos.

Cheers!

[rainiere]

Yes. This is the sentiment of the majority I'm sure! You have my support

[Hans Witteman]

As has been stated before, Hans, no need to worry about the nay-sayers. All of us here are well aware of the amount of work and time you and the team have put into the UBootHAHD project. We're expecting (no, we know) the same sort of effort and caring to go into the ATWAR as well, and are looking forward to seeing the first screenshots & videos.

Cheers!

Hi mate,

You are also one of the very first supporter and we appreciate your loyal support since the beginning and trust me we will personally reward our loyal supporters when the time come.

Thank for being there with us.

Regards Hans

[Hans Witteman]

Yes. This is the sentiment of the majority I'm sure! You have my support

Hi Rainiere,

A big thank to you for supporting the project, the road is full of obstacles but life is about challenge and without challenge life would be meaningless.

Regards Hans

[makman94]

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It's the pinnacle of false-promises, modding-selfishness and profiteering for the Subsim community.

To this day, the HAHD team has yet to share any of their work with the community. But I'll give them credit, they're damn good PR guys.

what mean ''PR guys'' ? you must speak with clear and straight words becuase not everybody knows english and their 'special' expressions. do you know any of us and you speak so ...easily ?

why u-boot-hahd is ''false-promises, modding-selfishness and profiteering for the Subsim community'' ?
there was never a supermod showing so much before its release.you are talking about pictures when the truth is that a load of long videos (exept from the pics) are showing the ingame u-boot-hahd.
Hans decided to built it from scratch (and not to create an expansion to an existed supermod) and this decision meant a long time road,we all know it ,respected his decision and moved on. if you don't agree with that ,who has the problem?

.....

To this day, the HAHD team has yet to share any of their work with the community....

why do Hans has to share anything ? does he own to anyone to share something that he feels isn't completed yet just for some 'crying' members to be satisfied ? let me tell you something: the only thing that is true is that you can not demand anything at all,you can only wait and if Hans decide to drop it ,it is absolutely his theme and not yours. it is his work and he can do whatever he wants with it.

Its difficult to insult one's intentions or integrity when they haven't actually done anything; other than posting pictures to things that will never be.

You lead everyone here on to something really big and exciting... for a very long time.

Then, when all of a sudden you guys call it quits. We hear nothing of the work done, the things we saw in the pictures, nothing...

Anyone can draw conclusions from this. I sure did. And you just heard it.

you draw conclusions based on ...pictures to things that will never be? is this correct ?
all the following are videos (not pics) from ingame real time running and allow us NOT to have shown ...EVERYTHING (or this is not allowed too and we have to reveal everything? ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1QPhMSBJRE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLHvMcvQnOg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVadiNzcR5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtkwwCOOI-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUq1LGHyAjA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heP3JdQKe0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHpo-mOV0nQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zCtZZ6Zxxg

ps: stop hiding behind your finger and next time post with your true identity . it is getting so childish the whole thing when we all know that i am 'talking' to someone else. it is not big deal to post with your nickname (if it is not kealhulled) , we are very few left around and have in mind that sh3 has nothing to lose from u-boot-hahd,on the contrary there is the possibility to gain things so what is the so big negativity for?

[Johnfb]

what mean ''PR guys'' ? you must speak with clear and straight words becuase not everybody knows english and their 'special' expressions. do you know any of us and you speak so ...easily ?

why u-boot-hahd is ''false-promises, modding-selfishness and profiteering for the Subsim community'' ?
there was never a supermod showing so much before its release.you are talking about pictures when the truth is that a load of long videos (exept from the pics) are showing the ingame u-boot-hahd.
Hans decided to built it from scratch (and not to create an expansion to an existed supermod) and this decision meant a long time road,we all know it ,respected his decision and moved on. if you don't agree with that ,who has the problem?



why do Hans has to share anything ? does he own to anyone to share something that he feels isn't completed yet just for some 'crying' members to be satisfied ? let me tell you something: the only thing that is true is that you can not demand anything at all,you can only wait and if Hans decide to drop it ,it is absolutely his theme and not yours. it is his work and he can do whatever he wants with it.



you draw conclusions based on ...pictures to things that will never be? is this correct ?
all the following are videos (not pics) from ingame real time running and allow us NOT to have shown ...EVERYTHING (or this is not allowed too and we have to reveal everything? ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1QPhMSBJRE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLHvMcvQnOg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVadiNzcR5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtkwwCOOI-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUq1LGHyAjA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heP3JdQKe0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHpo-mOV0nQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zCtZZ6Zxxg

ps: stop hiding behind your finger and next time post with your true identity . it is getting so childish the whole thing when we all know that i am 'talking' to someone else. it is not big deal to post with your nickname (if it is not kealhulled) , we are very few left around and have in mind that sh3 has nothing to lose from u-boot-hahd,on the contrary there is the possibility to gain things so what is the so big negativity for?



Great post, we'll said !!!!

[fitzcarraldo]

Great post, we'll said !!!!

+1. Thanks Makman. :up:

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[Sailor Steve]

what mean ''PR guys'' ?

Great post, we'll said !!!!
Just so we're clear, Areo was given an official warning from a moderator for his comments. He had a little more to say the next day, but he hasn't posted in this thread for more than three weeks. I see no reason to bring this up again after so much time has passed. If anyone comes back with a similar attack rest assured we will handle it.

[Fahnenbohn]

May we hope that one day we will be able to try this great mod. It seems so innovative ! When I saw the presentation videos, I was stunned. So I was wondering if the authors were still working on it.

Good luck to you, dear passionates of underwater simulation !!!
And congratulations for all your efforts ! :yep:

Fahnenbohn

[desertstriker]

The team has put this project on hold in favor of making a new game due to the severe constraints of the SH3 game engine.
we may still return to HAHD but it is not in the foreseeable future.

[urfisch]

so sad. i always search for news on that every month. nothing about the new project ATWAR since a year.

so guys, its like i said. finishing the hahd mod would have been hard but possible. creating a new game from scratch with a modding team...unrealistic, but possible if you make it professional with setting up a business plan, found a official firm and raise money. you do not go straight forward if u just release big words.

as i mentioned, that is the way to go, i was blamed as many others in just giving "bad carma" to the project. it was just an objective view on things as it looks now.

disappointing :shifty:

[BigWalleye]

A shame. So much hard work. Feel for the whole team. Hope you guys can salvage something from the project and move in some positive direction.

[Fahnenbohn]

I agree with you, guys. It is a very difficult task to achieve. But in a sense, I understand the authors. When we continually improve the basic game, it inevitably ends up against its own limitations (ie the game code itself). Then we feel the ability to improve it, we want to start from scratch and do everything ourself.

Why not, but what a challenge !!! I think it will take many long years to achieve a result, and how much opportunities to abandon ! In the end, the game will never be perfect, we always want to improve it. And thinking that finally the HAHD project would be more reasonable than the ATWAR project, this is accepting somehow fail. So we will present later the culmination of the project by saying that we will eventually get there, and the authors will eventually get discouraged and give up. And neither HAHD project nor ATWAR project will have emerged ...

This is only my opinion, perhaps (and I hope) that I'm wrong.
I would like to have the opinion of the authors of ATWAR project and those who work on it.

Best regards

F.

[desertstriker]

With ATWAR we are still working but things are slow.
As with salvaging something if you go over to the LSH thread and read in the last few pages you will see Makman said something about the HAHD GUI:03:

Here is his post
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2273566&postcount=1062

Thank you Fahnenbohn
At risk of getting yelled at there is power behind a Source code/SDK. There is a game even older then SH3 called FreeSpace2 but has been modded to the point that in many respects even the original campaign isn't the one that was released in 1999. The difference? The developing company Volition released the SDK. Without that the past 15 years of work would have never been possible...legally.

Could you imagine what could be accomplished with SH3 with such a tool?

[Fahnenbohn]

With people as passionate as you, if the source code of SH3 was released, I can imagine only the best things in the world ! :)

LSH v6 ... my God ... but I was forgetting !! Is it a completely separate project, or are there any links between ATWAR and it ?? :hmm2:

[desertstriker]

No links. But the HAHD_GUI I felt was worth mentioning. Speculate how you will with Makman mentioning the adjustments to said GUI.