ARMA II Thread

[Dowly]

Any takers for some simulated military manshooting tonight?

I'll pop in as usual.

@Fin: Stock game, continue the lite missions for now (IIRC).

[Arclight]

That's the plan, don't know what else to run at the moment.

I would propose a switch to Cold War Rearmed though. Really want to give that a shot.

[Fincuan]

That's exactly what I was thinking too. Especially the campaign would be kick-ass when played as coop, and if it doesn't work then there's a bunch of coop missions available.

[Dowly]

I'm ok with CWR, too. The wittering guys have been playing their own made
Everon mission for the past 11 episodes or so, brings back memories. :yep:

[Fincuan]

If anyone is about to get Arma2 or any other game in the series it might be worth waiting for just a little while:

ArmA X: Anniversary edition (http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=119845)

Includes all BIS made games and DLCs in the series so far.


RLS: June 2011 (probably 22. June - OFP released -- 10 years)
Pack includes: Operation Flashpoint, Operation Flashpoint: Resistance, Arma: Arma Assault, Arma: Combat Operations, Arma: Queen's Gambit, Arma II, Arma II: Opertion Arrowhead, Arma II: British Armed Forces a Arma II: Private Military Company
Disc: 4x DVD
Language: English (others unknow)
Price: 40-60e (not sure yet)

[Dowly]

Seems to be missing Red Hammer? :06:

Or was it included in a later patch for free?

[Arclight]

So do we want to get into CWR now then? Might be able to get it running in time. (might)

[Dowly]

I'm all set, installation is like with any other mod (might want to include ZeuAI if you're going with new shortcut :hmmm:), Armaholic downloaded at full bandwidth for me. :up:

[Fincuan]

Seems to be missing Red Hammer? :06:
It was made by that other company, the name of which I shall not mention :D

I'm also set and ready to go with CWR. Just beware that some of the missions are slightly more "interesting" with Zeus enabled.

[Arclight]

I'm all for "interesting". Better than instant 1-shot kills from AI under any circumstances from 300m away. Even if they missed, the next one would get ya. :shifty:

Got the lot downloaded, gonna set it up.

[Fincuan]

"Interesting" as in the mission called Bomberman, where at the start I accidentally moved about 10 cm and was promptly mowed down by a T72 with its NSV :DL

[Dowly]

It was made by that other company, the name of which I shall not mention :D

Ah right. :O:

Was a good campaign, tho. :yep:

[Arclight]

Seems to be working. Got an error about missing addon for editor icons or something after firing up Clean Sweep. Ran without issue though.

[Raptor1]

I'm downloading it now. Should hopefully be able to join.

[Arclight]

M16 and LAW... that's gonna take some getting used to again. :lol:

Server is up, can figure it out from there I guess.

[Arclight]

Bit of ArmA3 in action. Half of it will be familiar if you were keeping an eye on E3: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/30/seven-minutes-of-arma-3-footage/

[Fincuan]

ArmA X: Anniversary edition, ie. the pack with all BIS OFP and Arma titles to date, is out. For now it seems like only digital distribution versions are available (http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=1968312&postcount=116), and physical copies should come later this summer.

Sprocket (http://www.sprocketidea.com/joomla/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=sprocket.tpl&product_id=41&category_id=11&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2) 49.99€

[Arclight]

Bit expensive for my tastes, but a nice thing to grab if you're a fan of the series and only own like 1 title to date. :hmmm:

[Fincuan]

Interesting take on the gear selection during briefing issue we noticed:
http://dev-heaven.net/issues/16421

So basically none else except the admin should hit "continue" in briefing and voila, everyone gets the gear they picked. Talk about weird bugs :hmmm:

[Dowly]

Interesting take on the gear selection during briefing issue we noticed:
http://dev-heaven.net/issues/16421

So basically none else except the admin should hit "continue" in briefing and voila, everyone gets the gear they picked. Talk about weird bugs :hmmm:

Good to know. :up:

[Fincuan]

Games tonight?

CWR2 has been updated btw:
http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=1962105&postcount=1

[Arclight]

Rather tired to be honest, not really in the mood at any rate. Could throw it up over the weekend or something. Or now, just not joining myself. :hmmm:

[ajrimmer42]

ARMA II and everything to do with it are currently half price on Steam for the next 24 hrs :D Just picked up PMC for £3.99 :rock:

[mr chris]

Just purchased Operation Arrowhead and the British Armed Forces DLC.

To be honest I went on a little spree on Steam tonight.
Also Picked up:
Men of war Assault Squad
+ The MP Supply Pack Alpha
Tropico 3 Steam Special Edition
+ Tropico Absolute Power

It all came to about £27 in total, Bargain:yeah:

[mr chris]

Hmm having trouble playing ArmA 2 OA and the British Armed Forces DLC.
Does one have to have a copy of ArmA 2 to play the rest?
The error i get is that it keeps saying i have a bad serial.
But when i look it up online it say to load ArmA 2 then load ArmA 2 then load The BAF version.

[VirtualVikingX]

Hmm having trouble playing ArmA 2 OA and the British Armed Forces DLC.
Does one have to have a copy of ArmA 2 to play the rest?
The error i get is that it keeps saying i have a bad serial.
But when i look it up online it say to load ArmA 2 then load ArmA 2 then load The BAF version.

Do you run Steam? If so, try and run it as admin.

[mr chris]

Yes it is on steam.
Have tried starting steam as Admin but that did not work.
So im going to give re downloading and installing OA again.

[ajrimmer42]

My mate's just started playing ARMA II Free, anyone got any really good co-op missions we can try to impress him with? cos i think he's still a bit skeptical about it all. Obviously they can't have any addons and have to be just for plain vanilla ARMA II.

We've tried 'Dirty Rascal' and 'Cipher' which are both fantastic missions but we could do with something really well polished and not too tactical/difficult. I am also going to try 'Island Twilight' just to see how he does on it.

[Fincuan]

Lite coop mission pack (www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=13412) by nkenny.

We've played a few of those with the Clowns and they seemed like good, simple missions.

[ajrimmer42]

looks good, cheers

EDIT: Just tried them and they all say I need some random .pbos lol, never mind, got a really good one called Railyard where all you have to do is blow up an LAV but by god it's difficult lol

[Fincuan]

Supposedly you can get Arma2, Men of War and an unknown puzzle game for free via The Sun:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fun/gaming/3681414/Games-for-gratis.html


Valid for this weekend only. I haven't tried it so no idea if it actually works.

[ajrimmer42]

keep getting error 404 when i try to get on the site they link

[Dowly]

^ Works for me, just sloooow.

[Stealhead]

How well will ARMA II:Operation Arrowhead run on my rig?I ran ARMAII ok with it a while back but canned it after getting tired of all the early bugs.I read that Arrowhead is much better optimized than base ARMA II is.I dont need it to look as good as it would on a $4,000.00 rig just so long as I can run the game and be able to see what I am doing.Be brutally honest please if it will not run at an enjoyable just tell me and I will simply wait a few months and buy it when I have a better rig to run it on.

My PC:
Nvidia 8800GT 512MB
intel Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
3.0 GB RAM
Vista 32 bit

P.S. I am D/Ling the demo as we speak but it will take about 4 hours so you guys might be able to answer my question before then.

[Arclight]

Better optimised... dunno about that. But it's a desert map: less structures, less vegetation, etc. Runs a lot smoother.

[Castout]

keep getting error 404 when i try to get on the site they link

Me too :hmmm:

[Stealhead]

I think I will just wait and obtain a better rig first this one is about 3 years old and it did not have best stuff even then.I had a copy of the first arma a while back that I had bought retail it ran pretty good and I had tons of mods that I liked so I tryed armaII not long after it first came out and to be honest at the levels I had to set it at arma1 looked/ran better I really hated that blur or fuzz that ArmAII had that I bet looks fine on a better rig but on a low end one it looked like ass.

At some point I removed both games and dont have them anymore I think my brother in law borrowed both of my Arma discs because I had removed them from my PC.I went ahead and bought the complete Arma I from Gamersgate it was on sale for $10.00 so I figured what the hell?I like it and its mods so I'll mess with that for now.

[mr chris]

Little question is ACE Mod 1.10 compatible with OA with the British Armed Forces DLC addon installed?
Also are the any other mods people recommend for the game?

[Dowly]

Little question is ACE Mod 1.10 compatible with OA with the British Armed Forces DLC addon installed?

Yes, it is compatible.

[mr chris]

Cheers Dowly.

EDIT: Wow mighty complicated to install. Will leave that for another day.
Hmm keep getting a black menu screen when loading up the British forces addon.
I get the BI and ArmA II logos fine, but when it gets to the menu i sill have the menu and sound but the background is all black.
Its fine when i load up OA but only happens when i load up BAF.

[Rilder]

I hope my current download (King Arthur Collection) finishes fast so I can start downloading this, been watching lets plays lately and I honestly can't wait to play.

Glad I got in on that Sun giveaway of Arma2.:O:

[Fincuan]

In short: Looks like BIS have finally solved, or are solving, the #1 issue most people have with the Arma-series of games: MP jerkiness. Patch 1.60 is delayed for a few weeks because of this, which doesn't sound like a bad tradeoff at all. Judging by what people say of the latest betas the fixes they've implemented indeed work.
http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=2019995&postcount=1


The good news is we have made very promising progress with multiplayer interpolation, which looks like it could have a huge impact on solving jerkiness and jumping of remote units in multiplayer

[Castout]

In short: Looks like BIS have finally solved, or are solving, the #1 issue most people have with the Arma-series of games: MP jerkiness. Patch 1.60 is delayed for a few weeks because of this, which doesn't sound like a bad tradeoff at all. Judging by what people say of the latest betas the fixes they've implemented indeed work.
http://forums.bistudio.com/showpost.php?p=2019995&postcount=1

That is so overdue :DL

[VirtualVikingX]

I have set up a dedicated Arma 2:CO server. Its called "Vikings Longboat".

http://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/213.153.16.199:2302/b_560_95_1.png (http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/213.153.16.199:2302/)

The server does not require any mods. My steam-handle: virtualvikingx

Come and play if you are looking for some relaxed arma fun!

[Flaxpants]

I heard that the Project Reality mod beta is out. Has anyone tried this yet? I haven't looked into and as I haven't played for a while and thought this might give me something new to get my teeth into.

I have the same gripe about Arma2 as most others, not easy to find people who want to play it how it's supposed to be played.

[Fincuan]

I've done a few short PR tryouts, and imho it isn't quite worth all the buzz yet. It's very well done and there's nothing particularly wrong with it, but it's nothing groundbreaking either. It feels like any good usermade Arma2 gamemode, except that it's really easy to find PR servers with lots of players. The installation "process" is very straightforward and nothing gets overwritten, so you won't lose anything by trying.

edit: I haven't yet come across a PR game where it's played "like it's supposed to be played". The games I've taken part in have been far less chaotic than your average round of Domination, but still far from the well organized large coops at Tacticalgamer and a few other communities.

[0rpheus]

I run a regular game on Sunday nights (UK, 7-8pmish) with a few fellows from Eurogamer, pretty casual stuff. We run CO with ACE/ACRE/etc, though we'll drop the mods to welcome new faces to the group. Subsimmers are very welcome to tag along!

century_rain on steam (also in the subsim group) if anyone wants in :)

[Arclight]

Ran games every Tuesday untill a few months ago (has it been months? I dunno). Think we should get something going again, was always fun with the SubSim lot.

Hop on with Viking, maybe a game on Sunday... been sitting idle on the HD for too long. :)

[Flaxpants]

That would be well cool. My problem is my location. Very rarely do I get a decent ping anywhere further west than Germany, the international connections out of Thailand go through a government bottleneck so most players I encounter online are germans, russians, aussies. Not to mention the time difference- I'm 6/7 hours ahead of GMT...

Would be good to have a platoon of submarine commanders! I guess we'd be hiding in bushes the whole time, taking a shot that we can't possibly miss, and then running away! :D

[Raptor1]

Would be good to have a platoon of submarine commanders! I guess we'd be hiding in bushes the whole time, taking a shot that we can't possibly miss, and then running away! :D

Ha, clearly you've never witnessed any of our suicidal unsupported charges into positions held by vastly superior enemy forces. :O:

We should really get back to playing this at some point. After they release this fancy new patch, I guess?

[Oberon]

The fancy new patch which I hope and pray will fix whatever stupid issue it is that I have.

[Flaxpants]

Ha, clearly you've never witnessed any of our suicidal unsupported charges into positions held by vastly superior enemy forces. :O:

We should really get back to playing this at some point. After they release this fancy new patch, I guess?

Lol. Yes, it has a habit of coming down to that, regrdless of how long you plan on hiding in the bushes:D

So many issues and patches..... Arma 3 will be out next year- is that going to be a big improvement do you reckon?

[Dowly]

Lol. Yes, it has a habit of coming down to that, regrdless of how long you plan on hiding in the bushes:D

Yes.. err.. the plan... we may forget to make one most of the time. :O:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWtfj2wR2G8

So many issues and patches..... Arma 3 will be out next year- is that going to be a big improvement do you reckon?

What I've seen, it seems to add some cool new stuff. Let's just hope they've
learned from the previous titles and polish it up prior to release. :yep:

[Flaxpants]

Lol, the subsim clowns! I particularly enjoyed the lengthy tent roof inspection scene and Dowly taking out the T72 and blowing up the car at the same time- Lol!

That sure looks like a lot of fun, I'd be up for a bit of that. Let me know if you need more nutters.

[0rpheus]

This might be a mission some of you fancy trying, we do this with the EG group on a Sunday night:

Single Player Prologue:

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12135

Co-op part 1:

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=14211

and part 2:

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=14632

Zombie survival Arma-style, no mods required, just needs Combined Ops to run. Needs a good four or five players to survive it - ammo conservation is essential - but the atmosphere is brilliant, and the way it's coded is masterful. Try the SP prologue for a flavour of the co-op experience.

If playing as a group it's good to have everyone download it first, as the file's pretty large for an arma mission and can take some time to stream from the host. :salute:

[ajrimmer42]

Me and a mate tried that the other day, very cool :up: hard as hell with just two of you though haha. Oh and you don't need Combined Ops, it'll run on any ARMA II, my mate is on Free and it worked fine for him :03:

[0rpheus]

Part 3 of Chernarus Apocalypse is now out, and my smallish group will be running it tonight (Combined Ops required) from around 8, subsimmer's welcome (pm me for info) :salute:

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=15373

[Raptor1]

It's alive! It's alive!

*cough* Sorry. I noticed that the 1.60 patch with its supposed fixing of warping in multiplayer and improved AI came out a few weeks ago. Does anyone fancy starting to play this again?

[Dowly]

Dunno, really. The past re-starts haven't exactly worked that well. :hmmm:

[Fincuan]

I'm go for a temporary restart any time this week. After that I'm away from the PC for a few weeks.

edit:

1.60 patching information here
http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=129042

[Raptor1]

Dunno, really. The past re-starts haven't exactly worked that well. :hmmm:

Well, it doesn't have to be a regular game, but I figured that if multiplayer warping (Which was quite probably my biggest problem with the game) is fixed then it might be worth playing it again once in a while.

[Dowly]

Well, we had some fancy missions last time we tried. :hmmm:

[Arclight]

I'll set up a dedicated again if there's a want. I'm always up for a game so you'll have to tell me when to run it though. :O:

[0rpheus]

I know one or two thinking of picking it up again, I used to run a regular night at Eurogamer, so if we pool our forces we could get quite a squad going? Will likely be a week or two before I have enough time to get to it (dissertation to finish) but after that I should be good for a regular-ish night.:up:

[Oberon]

I can always give it a bash...my text and screen is rather blurry at the moment but the FPS seems reasonable. I'll have to kick it a few dozen times and see what happens.

[Arclight]

Check the other resolution setting. For some reason has a render resolution and another it scales to. I always set them identical to get rid of the horrid scaling blur.

Also, set the PP filter to low. Personal preference, can actually see stuff. :yep:

[Herr-Berbunch]

I'm interested too, just say when. Just need to spend all my spare cash on OA first, and I was doing so well.

[Raptor1]

How about running an ArmA II server today? I've nothing better to do...

[Dowly]

Might be able to download Arrowhead today, depends on Steam and it's speed. :hmmm:

[Arclight]

Copying the files over to the server, see if that works. Could run it local if it doesn't.

[Arclight]

Nah, that's borked. Gonna have to reinstall the lot.

[Arclight]

Much better. All installed and patched to 1.6. No mods in there though, or extra missions... see if I can find those packs on a drive somewhere.

[Fincuan]

You'd better do that, or we'll have to use one of my Linux laptops as a server. Don't make me remind how well that worked out :DL

[Raptor1]

The AI is supposedly improved in the latest patch, so we can probably skip the mod we've been using for that (At least for now). As for missions...yeah, probably need some of those...

[Arclight]

Wasted all my time ripping sounds from SWAT4, so I just pulled a bunch of missions and packs from Armaholic. Dunno what it is, plenty to pick from though. :yep:

[Arclight]

Righto, maybe we should reinstate Tuesday as Arma day?

Run it in the afternoon as Domi and do something more organised, if people are willing, at the "usual time".

[Skybird]

I read that the latest uügrade they did also improved the AI, but they gave no details.

Any info on that? Does it make sense to play sP now, does friendly AI obey orders in a better way, and is enemy AI more reacting? I have deinstalled ArmA2 many months ago since in SP it made absolutely no sense to play. I prefer to set up one single mammoth scenario, attach randomised "infantry garrisons" guarding the villages and settlements, and randomised infantry patrols along the c ountryside in a way that every couple of hours every piece of land gets visited by enemy troops sooner or later, and then I just stroll around and do what I feel to do - get from A to B, or cleaning a plae, or survive as long as possible.

Any info on the improved AI, please? Vehicles, weapons, gfx effects and such are totally uninteresting for me.

[Fincuan]

Righto, maybe we should reinstate Tuesday as Arma day?

Run it in the afternoon as Domi and do something more organised, if people are willing, at the "usual time".

I'm up for it, but won't be able to play during the week for the next to weeks.

[Arclight]

Mkay, running Domi. Server is SubSim Clowns, password subsim. It's on 77.166.66.44 case you need it.


Fin, could run it sometime in the weekend. See if there's any interest at this point.

[Raptor1]

I'll be there in the next 30 minutes or so.

[Spike88]

Mkay, running Domi. Server is SubSim Clowns, password subsim. It's on 77.166.66.44 case you need it.


Fin, could run it sometime in the weekend. See if there's any interest at this point.

I'm interested, but I have to leave in a couple of minutes.

[Oberon]

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7642/2012012400001j.jpg
"Sounds like Sputnik..." "Yeah..." "Doesn't look much like Sputnik though..."

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2061/2012012400002b.jpg
Task Force learns not to stand behind reversing vehicles

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6373/2012012400003o.jpg
Arclight tries stunt driving

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9005/2012012400004.jpg
Frogfoot overhead

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/135/2012012400005.jpg
Frogfoot in the hillside... :hmmm:

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5152/2012012400006c.jpg
The new 'Post-apocalyptic rusty metal' camouflage

[Biggles]

Salary due tomorrow, and it's thicker than usual! :D I'm considering buying ARMA II + OA...but we'll see...

[Herr-Berbunch]

Dammit, I knew there was something else I meant to buy. I'll have to wait to see what comes out the bank in the next week but should have enough for OA. :-?

[Oberon]

If I'm back in time (Burns night dinner tonight) then I'm up for another ARMAII game tonight, it looks like I'm hopefully managed to fix the 'Receiving' bug and what I played last night was quite enjoyable, particularly the combat in the second objective. :rock:

[Raptor1]

particularly the insane rocket spam in the second objective. :rock:

I have fixed it for you.

Chasing tanks on foot - successful! And Arclight said it was a waste of time...

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9104/2012012400002p.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9051/2012012400003.jpg

Greetings...

http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/293/2012012400004e.jpg

Suspiciously identical broken windows.

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/135/2012012400005.jpg

Bradley - now a piece of junk in form as well as function!

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/1239/2012012400007.jpg

Sneaky bastards.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5229/2012012500002.jpg

War loot!

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3914/2012012500003.jpg

Do a barrel roll!

http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/9251/2012012500004x.jpg

[Arclight]

Started up Domi, just gonna grab a drink and such and I'll be on.

[0rpheus]

I could be up for a game tonight, if there's one on?:up: You playing Domi against the AI or other players?

I'm also organising something for a week or two's time with some other people, so we could get a big group if we combine forces. Will keep the thread up to date as & when there are details, maybe be the start of a regular thing. :salute:

[Raptor1]

I could be up for a game tonight, if there's one on?:up: You playing Domi against the AI or other players?

I'm also organising something for a week or two's time with some other people, so we could get a big group if we combine forces. Will keep the thread up to date as & when there are details, maybe be the start of a regular thing. :salute:

Against the AI. And there's a server up now.

[0rpheus]

Thanks for the brief game chaps, sorry I didn't stay longer. Domi's not so good with only a few people, I get on better with smaller, single mission co-op kinda stuff as it tends to keep things focused, I get lost far too easily!

All welcome to tag along for the game I'm setting up, and if there's another night going let me know, I'll see what scenarios I can dig up that might be fun to try. :)

[Oberon]

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/8231/2012012500001r.jpg
"I wish I knew how to quit you..."

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/3914/2012012500003.jpg
"Oh right, that's how..."

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/621/2012012500004o.jpg
Aaaah, Vampire!!

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7075/2012012600001.jpg
Raptor gets stuck...

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/9777/2012012600002.jpg
Arclight: "Geronimo!"

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6827/2012012600003.jpg
We gift a Humvee to Allah

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4695/2012012600004.jpg
And another one...

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8075/2012012600005.jpg
Allah rejects the second Humvee through the wall

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/9031/2012012600006.jpg
Arclight helps

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9923/2012012600010.jpg
The distance you fly when firing a MAWS HEAT rocket point blank at a Humvee

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/283/2012012600012.jpg
Raptor tests the armoured motorcycle

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8313/2012012600013.jpg
Task Force trying to navigate a Hind out of a hangar with Arclight as his co-pilot...What could possibly go wrong?!

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6260/2012012600014.jpg
Yeah, hands up who didn't see that one coming?

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2731/2012012600015.jpg
His corpse hovers well though...

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1496/2012012600016.jpg
We don't talk about that.... :nope:

[TarJak]

Flightline:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/arma2oa2011-12-2213-51-58-02.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/arma2oa2011-12-2213-55-51-55.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/arma2oa2011-12-2213-56-00-56.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/arma2oa2011-12-2213-59-03-88.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/arma2oa2011-12-2213-59-26-87.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa54/TarJak/arma2oa2011-12-2214-00-08-25.jpg

[Oberon]

Nice shots, although those helos are suspiciously intact... :nope:

[TarJak]

Nice shots, although those helos are suspiciously intact... :nope:

Unflown.:D I can't take shots of them after flying them as all I see is a black screen.:O:

[CCIP]

Speaking of ArmA II, there's this article today on BBC, where a war photographer ponders whether ArmA might eventually screenshot his way out of a job :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-16745015

[Oberon]

Gaaah, pipped by 18 minutes! Was just about to post this in the Games News bit :haha: but this is probably the more appropriate section.

If only the Taliban had the same AI as the Mujies did sometimes, the war would have ended loooong ago. :03:

[Oberon]

Unflown.:D I can't take shots of them after flying them as all I see is a black screen.:O:

You getting the 'Receiving...' bug too? As painful as it sounds, try turning your graphics down a notch at a time and try it then.

Or are you getting the 'Captain Slow' bug where all lighthouses are magically attracted to your helicopter?

[Arclight]

Server is up, for some extensive "testing" of modifications.

Added BAF and PMC weapons, tweaked the ammo a bit, few vehicles at base. Added some vehicles to the bonus lists as well.

[Fincuan]

I'll be there in 30 - 60 min if it's still up.

[Arclight]

It is. Lion is off for a bit for dinner and I'm taking a little break, but it's all set.

[Oberon]

Fantastic time, thoroughly enjoyed it. Loved the extra weapons. :yeah:

http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/369/2012012800002.jpg
So...Spud as artillery operator...

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8190/2012012800003.jpg
Nice view up here...

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8701/2012012800005y.jpg
:har:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4509/2012012800006.jpg
It's aliiiiive!

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3969/2012012800007.jpg
Obligatory Michael Caine reference

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6562/2012012800008.jpg
Lionclaw farts...

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3298/2012012800009.jpg
I hear banjos...

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/3937/2012012800010.jpg
Task Force finds out ambush point

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1797/2012012800011.jpg
Here comes the convoy...

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3658/2012012800012.jpg
Wow...he actually did it...

[SgtPotato]

You should be in awe when I got the hind out of the hanger! :smug:

[CCIP]

What, a helicopter that isn't upside down and crashing? That is an insult to the Subsim Clowns tradition! :stare:

[Oberon]

You should be in awe when I got the hind out of the hanger! :smug:

Indeed, I was expecting a more Task Forcian approach. :doh:

[Lionclaw]

Lionclaw farts...

Good one! :haha: :DL

[Arclight]

What, a helicopter that isn't upside down and crashing? That is an insult to the Subsim Clowns tradition! :stare:
Don't encourage them. I've already got my hands full keeping everything they touch from deteriorating into scrap metal. :O:

When yer tank breaks down
in Takistan
who you gonna call?

(it's 6am, brain going sideways again)

[chrysanthos]

i did not know that there is a thread only for arma 2:D

[SgtPotato]

What, a helicopter that isn't upside down and crashing? That is an insult to the Subsim Clowns tradition! :stare:

Only reserved in the LoLwaffles. :03:

[Raptor1]

Possessed Diesel Stations in Takistan

An innocent looking Shnell Diesel station-office-thingy. The bombed-out look adds to the war-torn atmosphere.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9750/2012012900002.jpg

Satchels are planted to destroy the station, but they fail miserably. Artillery is called in, and when that fails, even more artillery is called in...

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2673/2012012900006.jpg

The cash register was doubtlessly laughing at our pathetic attempts to destroy the station.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6596/2012012900008.jpg

The station then decides to kill me for no apparent reason.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5778/2012012900009.jpg

Task Force attempts to offer himself as blood sacrifice, but fails that too. After a while he manages to, but the station doesn't seem particularly interested.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/158/2012012900014.jpg

Even more satchels are then brought in. The station's lust for blood and explosives is finally satisfied and it collapses. Mission accomplished!

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6830/2012012900016.jpg

The Prisonermobile 5000 rides again!

The T-34 refuses to surrender and accept fair trial, so we blow it up. This thing will work instead...

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4948/2012012900020.jpg

Okay, get in the BMP!

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1958/2012012900025.jpg

Get in, damn it!

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6185/2012012900027.jpg

After collecting the prisoners and disposing of those those which fail to follow orders, the Prisonermobile heads back to the base.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4818/2012012900030.jpg

A wild FARP appears! BMP uses repair and refuel...

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9960/2012012900033.jpg

Singing the BMP song.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1971/2012012900034.jpg

After completing its mission, the BMP is placed in parade position next to the flag.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2576/2012012900035.jpg

Clown Mechanized Assault and other things

The Clown convoy arrives at its staging base before proceeding to assault the target.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4103/2012012900040.jpg

How completely unexpected...

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6310/2012012900041.jpg

Destroying choppers en masse, the proper way.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3131/2012012900042.jpg

The chopper attempts to run away. Meanwhile, Task Force practices ground surfing.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9924/2012012900043.jpg

Whatever possessed the gas station apparently takes over the chopper as it turns on lights on its own. TF attempts to claim responsibility but that is ruled out since he's dozens of meters away.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2504/2012012900045.jpg

[Arclight]

It's still running btw.

[SgtPotato]

I'm in a mood for night fighting. :yep:

[Biggles]

Well I just bought Combined Operations...

May God have mercy on my soul....:haha:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Till I sort out my HDD situation I'm stuck with a limited number of games, Arma II being one (not OA), so I started it up last night, Fraps was showing about 50 fps but it was laggy as hell (single player!), I'd turn and it'd move about 15 seconds later. I've changed the config for GPU_MaxRenderAhead from 10000 (I was expecting 3 :o) to 1, most things are now set to low or disabled and it's still really [insert word of your own choice here].

Any advice? :hmmm:

[Arclight]

Shall not be hosting tonight on account of not being able to due to not-being-homeness.

Maybe we should just put it on Saturdays anyway. Prolly a better time for most, can run it all day and see when a group gets together.

[SgtPotato]

Shall not be hosting tonight on account of not being able to due to not-being-homeness.

Maybe we should just put it on Saturdays anyway. Prolly a better time for most, can run it all day and see when a group gets together.

Weekends are great for me. :yep::yep:

[Lionclaw]

Shall not be hosting tonight on account of not being able to due to not-being-homeness.

Maybe we should just put it on Saturdays anyway. Prolly a better time for most, can run it all day and see when a group gets together.

Saturdays sounds great. :salute:

[Arclight]

Running a game, think I fixed the minor odities of the added stuff from last time.

Tweaked enemy air a bit; removed the plane and slightly increased respawn time on the attack chopper.

[Fincuan]

I'll be there in about an hour

[Fincuan]

Sorry Arc, yesterday's "15 minutes AFK" kind of stretched after I fell asleep :DL

Anyway if the server is up I can hop on until Superbowl starts.

[Arclight]

No worries. :)

It's still up, got about 2 hours to fill untill HoI3 tonight (if that's going to happen), so we could play a bit if people are up for it.

[Arclight]

Seems we might have some Arma tonight. Now we just need more than 3 players.


Also, who doesn't have A2? I'd kinda very much like to add the A2 gear to OA Domi.

[Dowly]

I shall be there. :yep:

[Oberon]

Thanks to Imageshack becoming suddenly retarded, here's some images in a randomly presented way...

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1344/2012020800008.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/2012020800008.jpg/)
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7122/2012020800007.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/2012020800007.jpg/)
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/4077/2012020800006r.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/2012020800006r.jpg/)
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5678/2012020800005.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/2012020800005.jpg/)
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1066/2012020800004.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/2012020800004.jpg/)
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4222/2012020800003.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/2012020800003.jpg/)
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8614/2012020800002d.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/2012020800002d.jpg/)
http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/4672/2012020800001p.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/807/2012020800001p.jpg/)
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/3538/2012020800002.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/2012020800002.jpg/)
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1344/2012020800008.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/2012020800008.jpg/)
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/618/2012020800006e.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/2012020800006e.jpg/)
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3497/2012020800003f.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/2012020800003f.jpg/)
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5678/2012020800005.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/2012020800005.jpg/)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1066/2012020800004.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/2012020800004.jpg/)
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7122/2012020800007.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/2012020800007.jpg/)
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1503/2012020800001f.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/2012020800001f.jpg/)

[Dowly]

Heeeey, Hunter's back! Tho, those eyes are going to give me nightmares...
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/504638175593837949/B28C734F5C003A8C6A3F1AFE4F6910911784008B/

Lolwaffles + Subsim Clowns =
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/504638175593841535/400F3147607676942A8F20F41D4C9F1575CC9CCD/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/504638175593842448/ACA5D935F98DA285816651F595E9180E829AEE44/

Sorry about the large screens, really too tired atm to resize them. :-?

I had fun, as usual when more players join, it took nearly 3 hours to take
the 1st town. :O: Tho, everyone stayed together pretty much, so that was good.

I know it's all for fun and that, but it turns to frustration quickly if we can't
take a town quickly. Hence, it's good to play as a team, start following someone
, keep guard on his rear/sides, if he is downed wait for a bit and see where the
threat is and either take care of it or drag the lead to safety.

Anywho, it was a really nice game. :salute:



http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg210/scaled.php?server=210&filename=2012020800003f.jpg&res=medium

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WbKBKima4Q :rock:

[Arclight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WbKBKima4Q :rock:
Hold that feeling...

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/2012-02-09_00001.jpg
Psychedelic medic tent.

Also, the way it usually ends;
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/2012-02-09_00002.jpg

A suicide charge turned out to be miraculously succesfull. If only someone had brought a satchel to blow the container...

[HunterICX]

@Dowly:

I think we should make small fireteams like SWAT4 for example
since we have at least 6 players we could split in 2 teams of 3 members
having at least a medic and someone with AT equipment per team.
also it would be wise that the steam don't wander off from eachother and stay quite close in case the other team needs support.

perhaps it's something to try next time.

but all in all last night was good fun :DL

HunterICX

[Oberon]

Yeah, the primary reason I paradropped into the other side of town was to try and draw a bit of heat away from the airfield. I figured (correctly for the most part) that most of the mobile infantry would be at the foot of that hill that we were pinned at, so I figured I'd sneak in behind and see what chaos I could cause. Per Mare, Per Terram and all. :salute:

Oh, and that twin Huey ride was awesome, I wish I could have been a bloke on the ground as we went overhead. :D

[Task Force]

Are we doing arma today? If so we may want to put the server up abit early so we can get stuff from the side missions.

[HunterICX]

I'm up for it but I think it's A10 night :hmmm:

HunterICX

[Task Force]

Well then we can win them a A 10 in arma and they can have A 10 night there!

[SgtPotato]

Well then we can win them a A 10 in arma and they can have A 10 night there!

All I want is:

F-35
Harrier
Madcat
PAK 50
Stug III
King Tiger
and many more...




OH oh oh, your grandmother would be a great secret weapon, Task. :O:

[Arclight]

I'll put it up for who wants to play, I'll join if no one shows for DCS. :hmmm:

Made a few changes btw;

More vehicles, including an Apache, AH-6 and A-10.

4 Jackals, 4 HMMWV, liftable. Also a liftable Avenger.

2 Warriors, base defense.

Swapped the MH-60 MEV for a regular one, can load ammobox. (it spawns back if it is abandoned though, more intended for ammodrops or extractions). MEV is still parked somewhere as well, near a medic tent.

Swapped the ambulances for M113, liftable.

Reworked the bonus lists; basically light armor support from side missions, heavier gear from mains.


Intended to put a Kasatka in but forgot that one.

[HunterICX]

put it up,
pwetty Prease :D

HunterICX

[Oberon]

I'm just grabbing JSRS and then I'll join in. 58 mins ETD, providing it doesn't corrupt the bloody thing again. :damn:


Wait...wait...Apache?

:D

[Arclight]

I did, just said I would. :P

[HunterICX]

Oberon tried to be Evil Knievel again
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9207/2012021000001.jpg

HunterICX

[Oberon]

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff8/jcc2k1/Screenshots/2012-02-09_00001.jpg
We are the Bicycle Elite, Born to Compete!

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff8/jcc2k1/Screenshots/2012-02-09_00002.jpg
Raptor concludes his A-10 gun run

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff8/jcc2k1/Screenshots/2012-02-09_00003.jpg
Task Force RTBs

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff8/jcc2k1/Screenshots/2012-02-10_00001.jpg
Our Apache killing spree went so well...until we bumped into a Shilka...

After about half an hour of walking across the desert later I finally found an old discarded Chinook, I get it going and head over to Arclight and Task Force...but I couldn't shake this feeling that something was following me...

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff8/jcc2k1/Screenshots/2012-02-10_00002.jpg

:o:stare::dead:

[Task Force]

Yes, when we RTBed The Apache a Frogfoot chaced us around also.

Was fun in the Apache, nice killing spree... Till we took a shilka to the knee.

[Arclight]

Make light armor liftable, yay or nay?
(Bradley and Warrior)

[Oberon]

Make light armor liftable, yay or nay?
(Bradley and Warrior)

I say Yay.

[Oberon]

Oh...and something for Raptor, perhaps? :haha:

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=7728

[Arclight]

Right, I'll be off scripting carpet-bombing then.

[SgtPotato]

I say Yay.

Yay. Don't forget to add C-130. :yep::yep:

[Arclight]

Again, why a C-130? Can't do anything with it. :hmmm:

Could add it as a vehicle to do a HALO from in the scripts I suppose, but we've got base para enabled anyway.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/2012-02-11_00001.jpg
Using the laser on the Lynx to guide GBU-12 on the A-10. Is nice. :yep:

[Oberon]

Nifty. Did the A-10 then ram itself into a mountain? :O:

In regards to airstrike, perhaps that's something that can be scripted into the Squad leader with a half hour recharge rate. Then when it comes to dropping the munitions, spawn in the bombs at altitude and let them drop in sequence in a straight line across the aim zone. Most Arc Light missions are done from altitude anyway so you don't really need a B-52 model. Just 84 x 500 lb bombs.
Although, to be fair, most B-52 missions these days are cruise missile launches, the heavy rain comes from the Bones and they carry as much as the BUFFs:


84× Mk-82 Air inflatable retarder (AIR) general purpose (GP) bombs
81× Mk-82 low drag general purpose (LDGP) bombs
84× Mk-62 Quickstrike sea mines
24× Mk-65 naval mines
30× CBU-87/89/CBU-97 Cluster Bomb Units (CBU)
30× CBU-103/104/105 Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser (WCMD) CBUs
24× GBU-31 JDAM GPS guided bombs (Mk-84 GP or BLU-109 warhead)
15× GBU-38 JDAM GPS guided bombs (Mk-82 GP warhead)
24× Mk-84 general purpose bombs
12× AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon (JSOW)
96× or 144× GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb GPS guided bombs (not fielded on B-1 yet)
24× AGM-158 Joint Air to Surface Standoff Munitions (JASSM)

[Oberon]

This took my eye whilst browsing Armaholic, but it's only for ARMA2 :damn:.
Why can't someone release a new version of Schmalfelden? I miss my Cold war Fulda Gap fights.

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=6905

Oh, and what's the thoughts on Warfare mode? How does that work out?

[Arclight]

I asked who didn't have A2 a while ago and no one responded. Therefore I declare everyone interested has it and we can safely run A2 scenarios.

Maybe that will get the ferret in gear and install it. :O:

Warfare... only got a taste of it in A2 campaign. Seems awfully uninspired. :-?


Added the precio- offroad special. And a T-55; not the most effective tank but better than nothing. Er, remembered the Kasatka... Ah, fancy Mi-17Sh. Pair of BRDM-2's.

I'm still a bit torn on making IFV's liftable; realistically they are just too heavy. With an exception: BMP-2. So, thanks to UN leftovers, there's a liftable M113 and BMP-2. They can also load an ammobox.

Changed respawn behaviour for the Blackhawk: only when destroyed, same as the Heuys and Chinook. Other helos respawn after being destroyed or abandoned for 5 mins.


Think I'll make a version with the A2 gear now. I'm rather interested in some of the RH weapon packs as well. :hmmm:

[Arclight]

Put the server up, added a small selection of widely available Solviet(sic) gear. Don't think I'll be on for a while yet, but it's there.

[Dowly]

Maybe that will get the ferret in gear and install it. :O:

It's not the installing, it's the downloading and more than probably contacting
the support for a new CD key as was the case last time.

[Fincuan]

I'll be on the server in 1-2 hours

[Oberon]

Now, to figure out how to get ARMA2 and OA to talk to each other.

It's all a bit FDR/GDR at the moment...

MR GORBACHEV, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!! :damn:

[Fincuan]

The easiest way is to run Arma2 content like any other mod in OA. I believe the latest OA version accepts modfolders anywhere on your HD, so even separate installation locations don't matter. That, or just install them into the same folder.

[Raptor1]

Now, to figure out how to get ARMA2 and OA to talk to each other.

It's all a bit FDR/GDR at the moment...

MR GORBACHEV, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!! :damn:

Don't you have the Steam version? If so, you can just use the Steam option to run Combined Operations when launching OA.

[Oberon]

Don't you have the Steam version? If so, you can just use the Steam option to run Combined Operations when launching OA.

ARMA II is from DVD and on drive C, AO is from Steam and on Drive F.

[Fincuan]

Heads up for those who have OA but no Arma2, don't want to get it and don't mind lower quality textures: Apparently you can run Arma2 Free with OA to get a "Combined Ops Lite"
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA_2_OA:_Combined_Operations_Lite

[Arclight]

There ya go, no more excuses.

[Task Force]

Oh look, the link doesn't work!

[Oberon]

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6034/2012021100001.jpg
Smoke grenades for cover, covering fire, suppressive fire, squad movement. This is far too professional, stop it, stop it at once!

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6720/2012021100002n.jpg
O_O

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3083/2012021100003.jpg
Fin demonstrates the inverse Middle Eastern Victory Salute

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1773/2012021100004.jpg
I attempt the Middle Eastern victory salute with a grenade...

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2826/2012021100005w.jpg
Hunter has a heavy period...

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/631/2012021100006.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyD370_mv5c&feature=related

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6223/2012021100007.jpg
Looking far too professional again. Rectified a few moments later when Hunter challenges everyone to a race to the Chinook. Hunter has a head-start but loses it when Raptor shoots him in the back.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9854/2012021200001.jpg
Really must learn to break away earlier when using the GAU on helicopters...they don't tend to move :damn:

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1220/2012021200002.jpg
Spud brings down the rain as I follow him in

[Oberon]

Oh, and to answer Hunters question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ZLeS5z5OY

It looks nice but probably still quite buggy...still...something to think about. :yep:

[SgtPotato]

Oh, and to answer Hunters question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ZLeS5z5OY

It looks nice but probably still quite buggy...still...something to think about. :yep:


http://blogtotheoldskool.com/blog/images/do-want-squirell.jpg

[Arclight]

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/2012-02-11_00002.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAYhNHhxN0A

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/2012-02-12_00001.jpg
MHQ impaled on a FARP sign.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj2/EZatHome/2012-02-12_00002.jpg
Convoy topping up along the way.

[Oberon]

Lol, you can just about see me on the far left of that exploding tower. I walked up towards it as Raptor was running away and then it exploded in my face. :haha:

I wondered what you meant about the MHQ being stuck on the FARP sign, now I know :haha: Nicely done.

I remember on ARMA1 I used to fill up the Abrams at a petrol station (SCHNELL ;) ) on the way to a mission. :yeah:

[HunterICX]

bit of a Jesus pose there :-?
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9854/2012021200001.jpg

Soviet engineering at its finest:
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/6945/2012021200002x.jpg

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5294/2012021200005.jpg

and then we where... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QexOuH8GS-Y
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7766/2012021200006.jpg

HunterICX

[Arclight]

Running "War in Takistan (http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=13275)" for a bit.

[Oberon]

Right, so I'm going to try (again) to download 'Vietnam: The Experience'.

I'll let you know how I get on. :yep:

[sidmo001]

Hey all,

Just wanted to introduce my self and say hi.

I'm an avid ARMA 2 player, and I usually find my self on the 15 MEU server, either on their Domi or Insurgency servers.

They use the latest (And unfortunately last) version of ACE for ARMA 2.

[Oberon]

ACE has stopped now? I guess they're getting ready for ARMA3 then?

Arc, I think we should look into ACE again, I've just looked at their list of features:

What does ACE change compared to the original game?


Improved IR Strobe simulation. IR Strobes can be attached to players and vehicles, can be re-used and preplaced by mission designers via special functions.
Improved flare simulation that makes flares visible in daylight.
Improved explosion effects. Explosions don't just create a whistle in your ears like in the original game, but they also can knock you out, blind you and make you deaf.
Realistic working laser rangefinding devices. No magic range display.
Realistic bullet trajectory depending on the type of ammunition and barrel length of the weapon.
Realistic rocket ballistics. Rockets hava a parabolic flight trajectory like in real life. Not a straight shot.
Improved backpack system which is backwards compatible to Arma2 units which don't feature the original game's backpack system.
Improved vehicle damage simulation. The damage depends on ammunition used and where a vehicle was hit, like in real life. No incremental damage destruction.
and more ...


What does ACE add to the game?


New weapons like HK416 series, HK417 series, new G36 rifles, several rocket launchers for the eastern factions like RPG22, RPG27 and RPG29 and many many more.
More deployable explosive devices like Claymore mines, Bouncing Betties and simple C4.
Multiple non-lethal weapons such as flashbangs and teargas for western and eastern factions.
Individual arming of winged aircraft to match loadout with the needs of the mission.
Working afterburners.
Aerial refueling.
Ability to tow broken/stuck vehicles and replace flat tires.
Maptools, to draw your battleplan on the map and share with your subordinates.
Wind influence on bullets.
Sniper tools such as Spotting Scopes and wind measuring tools.
Improved sight adjustments to calculate an accurate shot in combination with the sniper tools, also supporting indirect fire.
Built in cargo system, which lets you transport equipment in vehicles.
Ability to exchange ammunition between vehicles.
Better interaction with your environment via a built in interaction menu, that unclutters the action menu of the original game.
Ability to rest weapons on objects for improved stability - also working bipods.
Unique wounding system which features dragging wounded players into cover for improved medical assistance.
and more ...

[Dowly]

The thing about ACE 2 is (at least when I last tried it ~6 months ago) that it's
PITA to install (instead of normal addon install method, you need the sixupdater
nonsense), it's WAY TOO complex which wouldn't be such a bad thing if there'd
be some damn documentation on how stuff works. :nope:

All in all, if it's in the same state as it was 6 months back, they shot themselves
in the knee with a nuke with ACE 2. Way too hard to learn, for the wrong reasons.

But, if there's some proper documentation covering everything that has changed
from ACE 1, then yeah, I'm all for it.

[Oberon]

The thing about ACE 2 is (at least when I last tried it ~6 months ago) that it's
PITA to install (instead of normal addon install method, you need the sixupdater
nonsense), it's WAY TOO complex which wouldn't be such a bad thing if there'd
be some damn documentation on how stuff works. :nope:

All in all, if it's in the same state as it was 6 months back, they shot themselves
in the knee with a nuke with ACE 2. Way too hard to learn, for the wrong reasons.

I shall have a look tomorrow and see what I can make of it all. :yep:

EDIT: From what I can see of a quick look at their FAQ - Installation, the Six Updater is only required if you want to automatically be kept up to date, which given that they're aiming to make the latest update the last major one (aside from corrections to game-stopping errors if they crop up) then I don't think it will be needed. Sounds familiar to TortoiseSVN.

[Arclight]

I'm alright with ACE, but I'd really rather not use that updater; perfectly capable of downloading and copying files myself.

[sidmo001]

The thing about ACE 2 is (at least when I last tried it ~6 months ago) that it's
PITA to install (instead of normal addon install method, you need the sixupdater
nonsense), it's WAY TOO complex which wouldn't be such a bad thing if there'd
be some damn documentation on how stuff works. :nope:

All in all, if it's in the same state as it was 6 months back, they shot themselves
in the knee with a nuke with ACE 2. Way too hard to learn, for the wrong reasons.

But, if there's some proper documentation covering everything that has changed
from ACE 1, then yeah, I'm all for it.

I don't know when you last used SIX updater, but in the past couple of months it has gotten a HUGE overhaul. The UI is improved to make it user friendly to most, mods are now super easy to install and manage via SIX, server pre-sets were improved to help manage 'x' mods for 'x' server. And the ability to download and install mods via server has been improved greatly.

[sidmo001]

ACE has stopped now? I guess they're getting ready for ARMA3 then?


Yeah, their getting ready for ARMA 3.

I like what they did with ACE 2, they pretty much stretched the mod as far as it could possibly go with ARMA 2, and they did one hell of a job.

[Fincuan]

There's plenty of documentation for ACE

http://ace.dev-heaven.net/documentation
http://ace.dev-heaven.net/wagn/Features#Features

[Dowly]

There's plenty of documentation for ACE

http://ace.dev-heaven.net/documentation
http://ace.dev-heaven.net/wagn/Features#Features

Praise the lord! :O:

Anywho, ACE can be downloaded from Armaholic too, so could give it a shot.


Community base addons:
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12157

ACE CORE:
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12155

ACE EXTRA:
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12158

ACE Soundmod:
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12160

ACE US NAVY:
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12159

ACE Russians:
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12161

and the install instructions:
http://ace.dev-heaven.net/wagn/Installation

[TarJak]

ACE is well worth the effort. And TBH sixupdater is not that much of a PITA once you understand what's actually going on. It's the best way of managing multiple mod sets to maintain compatibility across them. Wouldn't play ARMA2 without it.

I must get online with you clowns and have a crack one day.

[Arclight]

I just have a general dislike for 3rd party stuff. If I want another mod selection, I can create a new shortcut and customise the target line, done.

It's just another thing to figure out to me, another (unnecessary) layer of complexity.

(Apart from that, when something is updated I like to poke around and see what changed exactly. :D)


Right, so since we've all got A2, how about A2 Domi next weekend? Curious about the carrier. :hmmm:

I'm working on an extended mission on the Zargabad map. Might actually finish it. (sort of inspired by that map we used to play in A1; city with all the enemies about, multiple objectives to complete)

[Dowly]

Yeah, I'm ok with A2 Domi. With any luck the new GPU's here in time so I can
bump up the terrain details abit and maybe, just maybe, see something from
behind all the trees. :O:

[Oberon]

Right, so since we've all got A2, how about A2 Domi next weekend? Curious about the carrier. :hmmm:

Curious about the carrier. :hmmm:

the carrier.

http://exiledonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/uss_oriskany_sinking-450x384.jpg

[Dowly]

:haha::haha:

[Arclight]

I promise not to... "land" any WWII vintage aircraft on it.

[Herr-Berbunch]

OK, OA is available from Gamersgate for £10 - that's the cheapest I've seen about. Are there any other online retailers that you can recommend to try before I plump for this?

[Dowly]

To be honest, I'd get the ArmA II Combined Operations (A2+OA) as we are using
both A2 and OA stuff at times when we play. :hmmm:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Already have A2. :yep:

[Arclight]

Er, do we want to run A2 Domi with ACE? If not, I'll edit in the OA gear, otherwise I'll leave it alone. :hmmm:

Also, note that CBA for OA is for OA only, there's another version for Combined Ops. (Dowly linked to OA only version)

[Fincuan]

I'm go for A2 Domi with ACE, and even more go for some traditional coops. Just post up the ACE version we're using, as I'm updated to the latest and understood that we wouldn't necessarily run that.

[Dowly]

I'm go for A2 Domi with ACE, and even more go for some traditional coops. Just post up the ACE version we're using, as I'm updated to the latest and understood that we wouldn't necessarily run that.

I do believe we are going with the version I posted links to. :hmmm:

[Arclight]

Yeah lets leave it at that; 1.13.0.522

[Arclight]

Hmm? What's that? Everyone has A2 and ACE installed? Excellent, I'll just launch that then.

[Fincuan]

I'll be there as soon as I can drive GF off the pc. Not an easy task given how much time I've spent on Skyrim and WitP:AE lately :DL

[sidmo001]

Do you guys have a specific day and time that you usually play?

I can run a decent server if need be.

[Dowly]

Arclight has server up now. server name is subsim clowns, password subsim. :up:

[Oberon]

Hmm? What's that? Everyone has A2 and ACE installed? Excellent, I'll just launch that then.

Knew I should have grabbed ACE after all. Guess I'd better get doing that then before I head out to work. :haha:

[sidmo001]

Arclight has server up now. server name is subsim clowns, password subsim. :up:

Cool beans, connecting now but am stuck on Wait for Host.

[Dowly]

Just to make clear, server is not using the Six Updater, so this (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1838766&postcount=1174) is the right configuration.


:salute:

[Oberon]

Just to make clear, server is not using the Six Updater, so this (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1838766&postcount=1174) is the right configuration.


:salute:

Danke. Should be ready for tomorrow night at least. :yep:

[SgtPotato]

If you use combined operation, use only @CBA.

But if you have Operation Arrowhead standalone, use both @CBA and @CBA_OA

I'm not sure if I got it right or now. :hmmm:

[Arclight]

Right, so good old modded Taki Domi?

*sorry, that's right Spud.

[Dowly]

If you use combined operation, use only @CBA.

But if you have Operation Arrowhead standalone, use both @CBA and @CBA_OA

It wants in-game if you got the wrong version. What I linked is the OA version,
but near the DL links is the "requirements" section that lists CBA, so CO users needs only the required CBA. :salute:

And yeah, it might seem confusing, but lets just get the ACE 2 installed MANUALLY, using the links I gave and we can use this install all the time.

[SgtPotato]

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/488876369994402803/FF8721AD36BFD4AD4560DD4D9D3A8FDE48AABCB5/

This is what happened when Arc's server crashed.

[Arclight]

Actually, that's what happens when my ISP goes tits up.

[Arclight]

Seems I managed to add the OA gear without im- or exploding anything. And it all seems to function as intended too. :hmmm:

[Fincuan]

Just one thing I'd like you to add: Hk-417s.

Assuming they're still in ACEX of course.

[Arclight]

Didn't find them in the files, prolly because I was rumaging through older Domi stuff. At least the SCAR-H is in.

I'll compile a list of all the gear from Six Config Browser this week and plug it in proper, bit rushed as it is now (3x FN FAL and lacking RCO M14, for example).

[Fincuan]

Sorry for the abrupt exit after our great ambush, Arc.

My Arma crashed upon respawn so I decided to call it a night.

[Oberon]

So...ACE...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=24nfQspxFh4#t=27s

:damn:

[Arclight]

For addons, I really like the RH weapon packs; http://www.armaholic.com/list.php?c=arma2_oa_files_addons_weapons&s=title&w=asc&d=30

Tested those a bit, this is what's in it (ones commented out don't work for now. Prolly error in readme, wrong classnames given):

box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sdeotech",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416gl",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416glaim"l;
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416glacog",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416glaeotech",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sdgl",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sdglaim",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sdgleotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416s",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416saim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416seotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sglaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sgleotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk416sglacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ctar21",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ctar21m",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ctar21glacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ctar21mgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_star21",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sp",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sdeotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sdsp",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417s",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417saim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417seotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sglaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sglacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_hk417sgleotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acr",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acracog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acraim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acreotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrglacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrglaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrgleotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrb",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrbacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrbaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrbeotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrbgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrbglacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrbglaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_acrbgleotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mas",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_masacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_masaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_maseotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_masb",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_masbacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_masbaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_masbeotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_massd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_massdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_massdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_massdeotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_masbsd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_masbsdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_masbsdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_masbsdeotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m27",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m27acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m27aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m27eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m27c",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m27cacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m27caim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m27ceotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m14",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m14acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m14aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m14eot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m21",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_sc2",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_sc2acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_sc2aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_sc2eot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_sc2shd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_sc2sp",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1s",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1sacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1saim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1seot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1sshd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1ssp",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1st",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1stacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1staim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1steot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1stshd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1stsp",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ar10",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ar10s",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4a1",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4r",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4a1r",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4a1aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4a1eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4a1acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sdeotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4gl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4glaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4glacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4gleotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sdgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sdglaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sdglacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sdgleotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4m",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4maim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4meotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4macog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sbr",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sbraim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sbreotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4sbracog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a1",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a1gl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a1s",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a1sgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a2",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a2gl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a2aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a2glaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a2s",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a2sgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a3",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a3gl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a3aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a3s",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a3sgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a3c",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a3cs",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a4",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a4gl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a4acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a4glacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a4aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a4glaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a4eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m16a4gleotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk12",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk12mod1",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk12sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk12mod1sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_M249",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_M249acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_M249elcan",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_M249p",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_M249pacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_M249pelcan",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk48mod1",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk48mod1acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk48mod1elcan",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_M4aim_wdl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_M4gleotech_wdl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_M4sdaim_wdl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_M4sdgleotech_wdl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ak102",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ak102gl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m14ebr",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m14ebrsp",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m14ebrgc",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m14ebr_sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m14ebrsp_sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m14ebrgc_sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4c",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4cs",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4cmk",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4caim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4cacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ceotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ct",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ctsd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4cgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4cglaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4cglacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4cgleotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4cmkaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4cmkacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4cmkeotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ctsdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ctsdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ctsdeotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ctsdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ctsdglacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ctsdglaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ctsdgleotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m4ctsdglacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_mk4",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_doc",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_gl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_gl_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_gl_acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_gl_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_sd_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_sd_acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_sd_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_sd_doc",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_sd_gl_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_sd_gl_acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarl_sd_gl_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_mk4",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_specterdr",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_gl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_gl_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_gl_acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_gl_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_gl_specterdr",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_sd_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_sd_acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_sd_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_sd_gl_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Scarh_sd_gl_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_scarHb_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_scarHb_gl_acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_scarHb_sd_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_scarHb_sd_gl_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_scarLb_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_scarLb_gl_acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_scarLb_sd_eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_scarLb_sd_gl_aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ScarAk",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ScarAkacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ScarAkaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ScarAkbaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ScarAkeotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_xm8",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_xm8c",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_xm8gl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_xm8saw",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_xm8sh",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_xm8d",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_xm8dc",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_xm8dgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_xm8dsaw",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_xm8dsh",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk21a5",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk21a5sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14sdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14sdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14sdeotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m60e4",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m60e4acog",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m60e4elcan",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m60e4eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk43",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk43acog",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk43elcan",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk43eotech",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m39emr",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14ebr",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14ebrsp",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14ebrgc",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14ebr_sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14ebrsp_sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14ebrgc_sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14t",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14taim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14tacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14teot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14tsd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14tsdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14tsdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk14tsdeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18t",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18acog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18eot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18sdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18sdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18sdeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18gl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18glaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18glacog",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18glaeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18d",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18daim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18dacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18deot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18dsd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18dsdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18dsdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18dsdeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18dgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18dglaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18dglacog",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Mk18dglaeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dc",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dcaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dcacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dceot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dcsd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dcsdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dcsdacog",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dcsdeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dcgl",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dcglaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dcglacog",1];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk18dcglaeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_PDW",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_PDW_AIM",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_PDW_EOTECH",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_PDW_ACOG",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_deagle",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Deagleg",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Deagles",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_deaglem",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Deaglemz",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_Deaglemzb",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_browninghp",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk22",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk22sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk22v",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk22vsd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_usp",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_uspsd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_uspm",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1911",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1911sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m1911old",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m93r",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m9",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m9sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m9c",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_m9csd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_g17",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_g18",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_g19",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_g19t",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mk2",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_tt33",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_vz61",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_tec9",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_muzi",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ppk",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_p38",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_p226",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_p226s",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_anac",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_anacg",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_bull",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_python",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_HK53",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_HK53aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_HK53eot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_HK53RFX",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a4",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a4aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a4eot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a4rfx",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5eot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5rfx",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5ris",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5risaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5riseot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5risRFX",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5eod",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5eodaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5eodeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5a5eodRFX",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5sd6",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5sd6aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5sd6eot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5sd6RFX",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5sd6g",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5k",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5kpdw",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5kpdwaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5kpdweot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5kpdwRFX",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_p90",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_p90i",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_p90aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_P90eot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_P90sd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_P90isd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_p90sdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_p90sdeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_ump",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_umpaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_umpeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_umpRFX",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_umpsd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_umpsdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_umpsdeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_umpsdRFX",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_kriss",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_krissaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_krisseot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_krissRFX",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_krisssd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_krisssdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_krisssdeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_krisssdRFX",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_uzi",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_uzim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_uzig",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_uzisd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mac10",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_tmp",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_tmpaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_tmpeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_tmpsd",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_tmpsdaim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_tmpsdeot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_pp2000",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_pp2000aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_pp2000eot",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp7",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp7aim",1];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp7eot"];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp7RFX"];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp7sd"];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp7sdaim"];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp7sdeot"];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_fmg9"];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_pdr"];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_pdraim"];
box addWeaponCargo ["RH_pdreot"];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mac10p"];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp7p"];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_pp2000p"];
//box addWeaponCargo ["RH_mp5kp"];

(pulled that from the bit of script I used to fill an ammobox, hence the formatting)

[Oberon]

And I stumbled across the perfect map for Fulda Gap/West Germany operations.

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=9448

[Arclight]

Ah right, and I noticed the BOAR stuff from this "trouble" fellow. Think if you grab all that you've got a complete cold war/fulda gap setup (armor, APC/IFV,cars etc) for the UK.

http://www.armaholic.com/list.php?c=arma2_oa_files_addons_vehicles_heavyarm or

[Oberon]

Already grabbed the Chieftain and the Challie I, I think the Centurion is a bit out of era for an '80s Cold War battle.

Just gave Raptor the link to a Soviet tank pack that has the T-55, 64, and 80. :yep:

[Fincuan]

Looks like a nice selection of modern Western rifles in RH's packs. I bet some of those made their way into ACEX too.

Are the packs ACE compatible, especially bullet damage-wise?

[Arclight]

Think so (with minor tweaking), seems Robalo redid the configs for ACE; http://wiki.ace-mod.net/wagn/Compatible_Mods

*oh right: tracked down a few bugs in the configs. Can I just correct it, pack it to .pbo and have it work? Or do I need to resign them or something? :doh:

[Fincuan]

Repacking is enough unless you're running sig checks on your server. The modified file then needs to be distributed to everyone else too.

[Arclight]

It was checking, but not anymore. Just caused trouble now and then anyway.

I'll put the 2 edited files on the TS3 lobby file-server, don't wanna host them anywhere public since it's not my own work.

Corrected a few mistakes in the script and fixed 5 or so bugs in the configs; all of the weapons work now, save for 1 MP7 variant which simply does not exist in the files. That's a LOT of weapons. :D

[Arclight]

Right so we're agreed then? Requirements for the regular Domi are Combined Operations and RH weapon packs? Anything else?

What are the requirements for the Fulda Gap stuff being worked on?

[Oberon]

I think the Challenger I and the Soviet tank pack are two definates.
There's also the Chieftain and the F4.
And the Celle map.


It'll probably be a while before I realise anything workable, I'm an editor n00b really, particularly when it comes to scripting.

[Arclight]

Could help with the scripting, at the very least I'm familiar with the syntax.

But that's all apart from our regular stuff then? Want to have a Domi ready for saturday, would be nice to know what I have to work with.

[Raptor1]

Well, unless we can get a B-52 or a Backfire, I can't think of anything we need for regular Domi besides what has already been mentioned. Well, maybe the French weapon pack if you can put it in, but it's not important.

My never-to-be-finished-mission will need Celle, the Soviet vehicle pack and the Challenger I, at least, though.

[Dowly]

Any chance to get the RH's AK pack too? Not a necessity, but if it's easy to
add then wouldn't mind blasting baddies with the RK-95. :hmmm:

http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=2862

[Herr-Berbunch]

Currently halfway through d/l of OA, best get reading this thread to see what else I need - anyone got a comprehensive list. :D

[Oberon]

Well, unless we can get a B-52 or a Backfire, I can't think of anything we need for regular Domi besides what has already been mentioned. Well, maybe the French weapon pack if you can put it in, but it's not important.

My never-to-be-finished-mission will need Celle, the Soviet vehicle pack and the Challenger I, at least, though.

B-52 would be nice, I don't deny. :yep:

[Arclight]

Alright, so:

Combined Operations. If you only have Operation Arrowhead, you can get CO "lite" by using Arma2 free.

CBA (http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=6231) (required by many)
GLT missilebox (http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=6071) (for the aircraft)
All OA RH weapon packs and R3F Armes (http://www.armaholic.com/list.php?c=arma2_oa_files_addons_weapons&s=title&w=asc&d=30) pack.
A2 RH AK pack (http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=9029).
Challenger 2 pack (http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=11894).
Tu22M3 (http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=13405)
B-52H (http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=7728)

I'd also suggest;
OH-58 (http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=11039)
Nice little helicopter, kind of a mix of the Lynx and Little Bird. Hoping the laser can be used, to lase for A-10.
Il-76 (http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=10747)
Transport plane for Opfor. Blufor has C-130, kinda makes sense.
CH-53D and CH-46E (http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=9512)
Workhorses for USMC. Nice choppers to boot.


Mkay? Not mkay?

[Dowly]

Mkay? Not mkay?

http://www.music-lyrics-chord.com/cover/Vanilla_Ice_Cool_as_Ice.jpg

[Oberon]

I'm good for that, the Kiowa is a nice bird and works well with a fully manned Apache for a Hunter-Killer pack. Like the Little Bird/Cobra combinations in Vietnam.

[Dowly]

I'm good for that, the Kiowa is a nice bird and works well with a fully manned Apache for a Hunter-Killer pack. Like the Little Bird/Cobra combinations in Vietnam.

If the Apaches jockeys can hold their fire until target has been given to them. :O:

I shall say what I have said number of times before:

Shall we not add too many things that says BOOM and take out half a town?

That only leads to what has happened over and over again with our ArmA games:

People want toys that are over powered, they get them, play for two weeks,
get bored and stop showing up. Also, another point I've made zillion times
before: Things that say BOOOM, when used too much, take out all the cover
from the infantry players who would like to go to the town.

We need a balance of some sort with this stuff. The AI can't effectively fight
against player controlled tanks, attack helos nor aircraft which makes them the
same as adding a radio trigger that just clears the town by pressing 0-0-1.

Of course, as a 99% infantry player, this just my opinion and all that. :salute:

[Arclight]

Myeah, that's why I'm reluctant to add the more powerfull stuff by default (or make a tank airliftable, apart from it being nonsense). I'd rather keep the stuff that's there by default "usefull but vulnerable"; for example, a Stryker has the automated turret up top. In a hull-down position it can scout with the thermals and provide support, making it usefull, but it's far too vulnerable to charge into a target area.

Stuff like an Apache or A-10 that respawns on its own just leads to suicide runs and half the team parking their bum at base waiting for something to respawn. :-?


Imho "cars" at base (including armed), light armour from side missions, heavy armour and attack aircraft from main targets.

[HunterICX]

Mkay? Not mkay?

Not Mkay.

The Aircraft have to go, the Tu22m3 and the B52H are just gamebreakers, pretty much I repeat what Dowly sais here regarding that things that do too much boom ruins the game for me.

I like to play Spec Ops style...infantry with perhaps some armor support or a Combat Helo picking off targets marked by ground units I wouldn't mind a A10 in the same role. but aircraft that are able to turn the place upside down in a clusterfudge....then I might as well suggest a nuke...launch it, game ends all targets destroyed, all towns cleared of enemies and call it a night.

since we are a small group keep it small in the game, at least in a reasonable size that it works for us.

HunterICX

[Arclight]

No no, I'll just use the bombers for scripted stuff. Not gonna see them in Domi. No way to aim them and AI can't use them either anyway.

(*on that note, might as well say the missilebox and bombers are optional; just some stuff people can use in missions but not required by default/for Domi)

[Dowly]

BTW, Arczilla, you got any of them coops stored up? Could try them this Saturday? :hmmm:

Any idea if the maker of the "quickies" we tried some restarts ago has made any more of them?

Nkelly or close to that, them 15-20min missions.

[Oberon]

The problem I have is that I suck as infantry, most of my time involves being shot by a guy I have trouble spotting but everyone else seems to see quite plainly, and the only time I try to go stealth a certain someone strolls into town looking like this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xN-nw8QXqvE/TZDv9iLZ_9I/AAAAAAAAGic/6zWm0y-EyQw/s1600/Mask%2Bweapons%2Bguns%2Bswords%2Bfrom%2Bmovies.jpg

I'm happy to Apache or Tank with Task Force, myself and he have worked together a lot on Red Orchestra with their tanks and I like to think that we make a good team, him gunning and me driving. I'll probably avoid A-10 flying because I cannot put the view distance up far enough for it to actually be effective or I suffer the dreaded 'Receiving' bug which usually results in me flying into a hill whilst I am unable to see or do anything.

[SgtPotato]

Arc, I want this Super Hind

http://media.desura.com/images/members/1/325/324879/shind-2.jpg

:rock:

[Arclight]

The problem I have is that I suck as infantry, most of my time involves being shot by a guy I have trouble spotting but everyone else seems to see quite plainly, and the only time I try to go stealth a certain someone strolls into town looking like this:

I'm happy to Apache or Tank with Task Force, myself and he have worked together a lot on Red Orchestra with their tanks and I like to think that we make a good team, him gunning and me driving. I'll probably avoid A-10 flying because I cannot put the view distance up far enough for it to actually be effective or I suffer the dreaded 'Receiving' bug which usually results in me flying into a hill whilst I am unable to see or do anything.That's fine, I'd just prefer we earn them.

Could pick a medic and stay back a bit: since we use revive someone is desperately needed to drag our sorry bottoms to cover for a revive. Or a TL, drop yourself a gun for fire support. Drop another ammobox so we've got more Javelins or Stingers available.

Or the engineer stuff that now mostly falls on me: Fly the wreck-lift to pick up behind someone. Service vehicles at base, straighten up a bit. Rebuild service stations. Fly in a salvage truck so a FARP can be set up (provided we're using vehicles).

Just parking on a nearby hill with a pair of binoculars is great: we're trying to stay low to avoid getting shot, so it can be difficult to be aware of enemy movement. A spotter relaying that would be a great help.

Just don't sit at base for half an hour waiting for whatever vehicle you got blown up. :O: (general statement, nothing personal)
Arc, I want this Super Hind
The link to the relevant mod you provided for our convenience seems to be malfunctioning. :hmmm:

[Oberon]

I'm more than happy to be an engineer, ecstatic in fact, but you're usually already the engineer so I don't pick engineer 2 in order to avoid the continual
"Two, return to formation."
"Two, fall back."
"Two, return to formation."
"Two, state position."
"Two, fall back."

and so on and so forth.

[Arclight]

First thing I do is tell team-members to hold, stops it right. Plus, you can use that interface to leave the group. Sorry, that argument is invalid. :O:
BTW, Arczilla, you got any of them coops stored up? Could try them this Saturday? :hmmm:

Any idea if the maker of the "quickies" we tried some restarts ago has made any more of them?

Nkelly or close to that, them 15-20min missions.
Not seeing it, slipped the net. :/

[Oberon]

First thing I do is tell team-members to hold, stops it right. Plus, you can use that interface to leave the group. Sorry, that argument is invalid. :O:

Not seeing it, slipped the net. :/

Fair enough. I'll see what happens whenever I'm able to play next, which will probably be Saturday night.

[Arclight]

Again, nothing personal, just saying it's a bit frustrating if we have, say, 4-6 people and half of them are trying desperately to gain ground (repeatedly getting shot by that 1 git hiding in the bushes somewhere) while the others are nowhere to be seen. I don't care if they are doing something, anything, besides waiting for a respawn.

It doesn't happen with the bonus vehicles since then you need to go and fetch the wreck. I like adding toys, they are fun, but gameplay wise it just murders the game.

[Oberon]

Oh, nothing personal taken, it's just repeatedly being shot at and starting at a counter clicking down for about three minutes isn't that much fun either. It works best as a team, I agree, but the skill difference between myself and the rest of the squad means it's probably better I work in the background. :yep:

[Dowly]

IMHO, it all boils down to situational awareness.

For those who don't know, you can hold down RALT and move the mouse to
look around.

Pick a partner in your mind who you want to follow, cover the areas he doesn't see
i.e. if he is moving along a wall, you turn around and watch the back, no one
gives a crap how many kills you have, so don't shoulder shoot and be in the open. (I swear, the next who gets wounded coz of that, I finish them off myself)

Opening comes up, lead covers the nearest corner and looks a bit inside, you
move to the other corner of the door/opening and check the other side, then
move in and check the area.

SA in general is IMHO the biggest problem we have. We make a plan, we start
to move in and within 5 minutes or when the first forest comes, we are all over the place.

Of course, we are playing for fun and all that, but it does get frustrating to fight the same town over and over again when it could be handled with 1-2 tries. :salute:

[Oberon]

I understand Dowly, and I try to do it that way but it usually just winds up with me being pinned down in a shed somewhere.

I'm being pessimistic because I'm tired and feeling rough, it'll probably be fine in the next game, so long as someone ties Raptor to a tree or something. :yep:

[HunterICX]

No no, I'll just use the bombers for scripted stuff. Not gonna see them in Domi. No way to aim them and AI can't use them either anyway.

Fair enough,

was fearing you plan to have a WWIII in your Domi with that equipment.

@Oberon, stick with me and arclight I take it he's the TL no matter if he's an engineer or not I let him take point and follow him and keep him covered, works pretty well and we could always do with more to provide better cover and ofcourse support went things get hot. It does work because one session me, Task force and Arc did some side missions without suffering casualties.

and if you want to be more in the back grab the medic gear and keep us patched up :)

I take it we are back on the Vanilla ArmA2 & OA without Ace2? because I already removed that junk.

HunterICX

[Herr-Berbunch]

Alright, so:

Combined Operations. If you only have Operation Arrowhead, you can get CO "lite" by using Arma2 free.


:up: Already have A2, but think I need to reinstall as performance is terrible whereas it used to be great! Maybe in a previous attempt at running some mods :hmmm:. No ACE mods?

Then I'll practice, although if I just show up at least I'll make Oberon look fantastic.

[Oberon]

Then I'll practice, although if I just show up at least I'll make Oberon look fantastic.

Oh, it's on! And may the most incompetent man win! :yep: :haha:

[Fincuan]

So what's the latest word on the use of ACE? I'd really hate to see it go given all the features it brings to the table.

[Arclight]

Well, what does it really bring to the table?

Zeroing is already in. We're already using a revive system. Fire is plenty stable without specifically deploying a bipod, etc.

In the end it proved too cumbersome. Even with proper supplies I could rarely get a wounded individual back on his feet. For zeroing I have to hit a combo, open a range table, deduce the proper setting and adjust the setting. In OA, you just hit PgUp or PgDown to set it.

Also, the range-finder: I have to take one and a battery, load the battery and then the battery disapears from inventory and stays loaded into the rangefinder. What's the point of that step? Why not asume that the range-finders provided have a battery loaded? :doh:


tl;dr it wasn't fun. :hmmm:

[Fincuan]

The most important ACE features for me are, in no particular order:
Wind now affects projectiles
More realistic ballistics for projectiles. Stock ballistics are really far off.
Realistic muzzle velocities for weapons. M16 and M4 aren't the same performance anymore.
Precise range adjustments for sniper scopes
The ability to support your weapon on objects, especially when standing and kneeling.
An improved backpack system
Stamina effects
A medical system more complex than "click and heal"
WP, CN, flashbangs and other completely new weapon and munition types
Adjustable reticles, recoil effects on reticles(some)
Armor penetration simulation and other vehicle damage adjustments
Weapon jamming and overheating
Tank and chopper FCSs
Explosions and other effects

Whatever else I forgot

Some of those are indeed included to some extent in OA, but ACE takes them a lot deeper.

[Arclight]

Wind now affects projectiles
More realistic ballistics for projectiles. Stock ballistics are really far off.
Realistic muzzle velocities for weapons. M16 and M4 aren't the same performance anymore.

Those are nice. I'm a bit of a gun-nut, so better weapons modeling is something I really appreciate. Magazines determining a weapon's performance is still the most puzzling "feature" of these games to me.

Precise range adjustments for sniper scopes

Nice in theory, for snipers, but the average grunt doesn't need 0.25 mil adjustments.
The ability to support your weapon on objects, especially when standing and kneeling.
It's a nice thing, but one I often found myself struggling with. Deploy, undeploy, wondering whether it's deployed so I hit the combo and the menu thingy pops up and I have to backspace... not handy in a fire fight.
An improved backpack system
... eh? It's a bag, you put stuff in it. Works fine as it is.
Stamina effects
People we play with load up with so much gear that they collaps after 50 meters. Wasn't working out.
A medical system more complex than "click and heal"
Still prefer the system from the BIS modules. Lacking that, the revive script in Domi will do. Also, we don't have a dozen people providing cover, so the ACE system is a bit much.
WP, CN, flashbangs and other completely new weapon and munition types
Mostly useless, though I did enjoy the WP grenades.
Adjustable reticles, recoil effects on reticles(some)
Didn't notice that.
Armor penetration simulation and other vehicle damage adjustments
Penetration is already modeled. You were as surprised as me when we took out a T72 with a LAW, so whether or not it's actually "better" is debatable.
Weapon jamming and overheating
Meh, rather rare occurance. Though it does add to the MG experience.
Tank and chopper FCSs
Nice I guess, never in any.
Explosions and other effects
Can't say I care much for effects. Looks fine to me as is, though the sounds are horrendous.


Yes, ACE does take things deeper, and manages to make it no fun in the process. I had to look for a tutorial on using satchels... bit silly.

I'd rather have something that makes the game more realistic without completely changing the game and piling on features that I'll either never use or never notice, or be annoyed by because they are a more cumbersome version of something that was already in there.

[Arclight]

Also: the USMC choppers were... extremely poor. Challenger 2 pack gives an error in the editor, so... not impressed by that either. Removed these 2 mods for now. (Kiowa and Il-78 are pretty good though)

[Arclight]

Erm, so I came up with a bit of scripting that can put in music when you're at base. It's local, so it fades the farther away you get, and stops when there's no one around.

But it puts the mission file at like 110MB... is this desirable? Prolly a good idea to upload it somewhere so people can download it outside ArmA... would likely bring the server to a halt when people connect and download the mission otherwise. :hmmm:

[Fincuan]

Definitely put it somewhere else for download. What kind of music are we looking at? :D

[Arclight]

70s/80s rock basically. Cut down the number of tracks a bit, still looking at a good 60MB. :haha:

[Fincuan]

Ok sounds good, and good work overall Arc. You're devoting a lot of your time to the Clowns. :yeah:

If you need help at scripting, FMSs, configs or editing in general give me a shout. I should still remember a thing or two on those subjects.