ARMA II Thread

[Fincuan]

Yeah, that is good news. The latest beta patches are btw always available here:http://www.arma2.com/beta-patch.php

As you can see from the changelog they've did quite a lot since 1.04 :yeah:

[Dowly]

ARMA II Patch 1.05 Packed With Free DLC (http://kotaku.com/5424337/arma-ii-patch-105-packed-with-free-dlc)

Thank you, BIS. Now if it actually fixes stuff as well, I'm a happy camper. :lol:

This is BIS' last chance to turn my head about ArmA. Let's see if they cock up their 3rd campaign. :hmmm:

[Fincuan]

You really give a rats ass about the campaign in a game like Arma2? It's crying to be played in multiplayer. Besides playing two missions of the PMC Chernarus campaign I haven't touched singeplayer after completing Harvest Red, and mind you I have the same "problem" with pretty much every other game too(bar SH3 and 4 :)). In singeplayer I always keep thinking "Hmm.. That's AI over there, can't trust... That too is AI, nope, he can't do ****... etc", because even with the recent AI improvements there just isn't an AI that rivals humans. The good things and the cockcups humans sometimes manage to achieve are just priceless :yeah:

[Dowly]

Yes I do. I wouldnt if they'd say:

"Ok, before you buy it, keep in mind that the campaign is crap and you propably want to buy this only if you are in to online gaming."

But see, they dont say that, so those who either dont want to or cant play online are sold a bag of ****. And that's IMHO pretty cheap. :hmmm:

[Task Force]

I usualy just find a good single mission and mess with that...

[SgtPotato]

It seem that I can't install ACE2 beta in ArmA 2 because my friends and I found out the installation is too damn confusing.

[Task Force]

yea, wish it was just a simple installer...

[Fincuan]

Arma1 patch 1.18, quite possibly the final patch for the game, is out:
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=8715

What comes to ACE, reading the instructions I linked offers several ways to aquire it, only one of which involves using Six Updater. Personally I chose to use it because in the long run it's far by the most painless and care-free way. Once it's configured you can schedule it to run at set times via Windows and not need to worry about updates to Arma2, ACE or a bunch of other mods.

[Fincuan]

Arma2 patch 1.05 has been released
http://www.arma2.com/support/updates/folder.html?lang=en

[Task Force]

Re DLing arma 2... MY GOD this stuff goes slow...

[goldorak]

Nice, the 1.05 patch disables DRM so now people can play without having the damn CD/DVD in the drive.
I have everything I need except the game that Amazon still hasn't send me (damn holidays :haha: ).
So is there a server where subsimers that play Arma 2 hang out ? :D

[Fincuan]

DRM removal was a nice gift indeed, not that it affected me though(downloadable version). At the moment the Clowns aren't actively playing A2 as a group, but you'll find me on Tacticalgamer's (http://www.tacticalgamer.com/armed-assault) servers. You need to register on the forums there to get access to TS, but other than that no commitments are necessary.

On another note ACE2 is out now, currently at version beta2, and Arma2 is pretty well patched up so maybe it would be a good time to revive the Clowns?

[Arclight]

Count me in if you do. Little heads up would be nice though, might take a little effort to get it to run stable. :)

God knows the first attempts certainly weren't. :lol:

[stabiz]

I got back into Arma 2 with the 1.05 patch, and I find myself having tons of fun with the EW campaign.:woot:

[stabiz]

Wow, this game is awesome. I had forgotten about the Arma/Arma 2 experience as I never played number 2 very much due to a slightly weak computer, and i decided it was better to wait than to play it on low settings. I forgot that these games are all about frustration and then magically you have some experiences that are just awesome, so you keep coming back for more.

A few questions: How do I make a soldier heal another soldier when I am team leader? Cant find any commands in the command menus.

And how do I give weapons from crates to other team members?

[Fincuan]

A few questions: How do I make a soldier heal another soldier when I am team leader?

Select your corpsman, then hit "6" for action and another number, usually "1", to select an action that heals someone. The action should read something like "Heal rifleman", "Heal machinegunner", etc

And how do I give weapons from crates to other team members?
Tell them to move close to the ammo crate, and once they're there select the guy then hit "6" for action and whatever number reads "Gear". He should move to the crate and a normal gear menu should pop up, but this time it moves gear from the crate to the AI's inventory or vice-versa.

[stabiz]

Gracias!

[Spike88]

So is this worth buying now, or waiting until the bugs are worked out better.

[Spike88]

I have an issue with Characters glasses not rendering correctly. Show show up as a bright color. Such as white or yellow.

[Task Force]

Arma 2 was a allright game from the start... I havnt installed it on my current setup, but it is a pretty good game.

[Arclight]

Just needed a little time to mature. Most people end up playing modded (I think it's most, anyway), but there are no mods just after launch.

I wanted a sim, but I got a game. Now with ACE, it looks like a sim again. :up:

[Task Force]

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I CANT *******ING BELIEVE THIS!!!

Dumb me forgot to get the right email when I changed HDs and OS es...:damn:
GRR I hate CD keys... PFFF... I bought the d*** game. why the ******* do I need a key after I bought it...

[Spike88]

Just played through the first couple campaign missions. Pretty neat so far. Will get ACE in the near future.

[Spike88]

So I've been fiddling around with ARMA 2, I have to say I do enjoy it a lot.

Although I have a question that I hope can be answered.

I have a Joystick, and tried practicing helicopter flight. I set up Z axis(which is a slider) as the Throttle(Analogue). It shows up in the Control Scheme as Logitech Attack 3 -Z Axis. The problem is 0% throttle in game, is the half way mark on my slider. So I only have an itty-bitty amount of space for trying to control my speed. If I go to far the helicopter smashes into the ground.
I've tried tweaking it but only got myself confused. What am I doing wrong?

[Task Force]

I found its best to use control up / down... works better IMO...

[Spike88]

I found its best to use control up / down... works better IMO...

That did work a lot better.

So I redid the Helicopter training, got through the transport part fine, and then moved onto the attack part. ON the way to the objectives I decide to save just in case. When the game unpauses from saving I fly into a tree. I reload my save and fly into the tree again. I try a second time and still fly into the tree. :haha:

On the third time I was able to pull above the tree just barely missing it. I stabilized and saved in hover. I get through the attack training without a problem. Land the helicopter down perfectly and then choose the Emergency Landing training.

I hear Maddock telling me what I'll need to do, so I think okay this sounds easy. I hear the engine's losing power and gently push the nose down. I end up pushing it too far down and slamming face first into the ground dying. Ooopss...

I reload my save.... Oh crap. Its back before I finished the Attack training. :damn:. Not feeling like doing it again I quit and choose the VTOL aircraft training. I follow the instructions and hover off the ground a little bit, I'm trying to nudge the controls slightly like I was told. All's going well...
...and then I start to loose control and grind across the floor. I smack into a parked helicopter, then grind across the floor some more.

Eventually I end up accidentally flying into a hangar where another VTOL is parked. I hit the VTOL and we both explode.

Well I say, that's enough for one night.

[Fincuan]

The problem is 0% throttle in game, is the half way mark on my slider. So I only have an itty-bitty amount of space for trying to control my speed. If I go to far the helicopter smashes into the ground.
I've tried tweaking it but only got myself confused. What am I doing wrong?

I haven't figured this one out either. As far as I know what you describe is how it's supposed to be, but it really isn't that convenient and I haven't seen anyone find a way around it yet.

[Spike88]

That sucks. You think they would of released a patch to get it to work properly.

I guess if you set up a gameprofile for your joystick you may be able to get it to work properly.

[Dowly]

The problem is that a chopper has 3 extreme points on the throttle (-100%, 0%, +100%), that's why the control is like it is. You really cant take any of the three out or you wouldnt be able to fly properly.

Practise with it in the editor and you get a hang of it and you start to like it as you can do some quite cool stuff with having all three points easily controlled with the throttle on your joystick. :yep:

[Dowly]

yaadidaa coop part 11 (seriously, this is getting ridiculous)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkjCbnouBIc

[Dowly]

with wittering part 12 *sigh*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjzc0ZDfkFs

@bishop

Yeah, I agree with you. They have added some things and fixed some old bugs, but there's still so many issues that were present there in the original OFP already. :-?

[Dowly]

Aaand part 13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbDJUZjJ_X0

[Task Force]

Lol, they have no luck with that mission... (I understand, I didnt ither...)

[Dowly]

Part 14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U45S-0V45g0

[Arclight]

Persistent, aren't they? :hmm2:

[stabiz]

I was in a game shop today (not to get SH5!) and they had a huge wall with top 10 pc sellers, and on #1 was Arma2! :o What the ...? I would think it was a prank or something, but each number had say 6-7 boxes of the same game. Getting rid of stock?

[Kaye T. Bai]

I'm still dying for some information on the expansion pack, so is everybody else on the official ArmA 2 forums. I guess for the moment we only have user-made videos and addons to keep us company.

For the meantime, enjoy a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeMW9dtKb_4

[Castout]

The shop I frequent ran out of stock have to look elsewhere, will try to find the game in the other shop that I know. I'm already liking Dragon Rising which many seem to hate :D but I'm interested in ARMA 2 too. I just hope the multi player community is well alive and kicking. Multi player is the biggest reason I want to buy this kind of game.

If I can't find it I may have to fetch arrowhead (skipping ARMA 2) when it comes out in July instead.

[Dowly]

Operation Dustoff (with wittering) Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEByuFBOVkI

[Arclight]

Can't get that Seal Team Six to work, freezes game when I select start in menu. :doh:

[Dowly]

Can't get that Seal Team Six to work, freezes game when I select start in menu. :doh:

Double check all the addons needed are installed correctly. Can't remember which one I installed (or if it was even any of the needed), but the folders were messed up so it didnt work. Tho, shouldn't freeze the game because of that. :hmmm:

EDIT: And you got the campaign in ArmA2/campaigns ?

[Arclight]

-mod=beta;@ACEM;@SLX;@mercs;@proper-veg;@proper-bui;@SAP;@panthera;@english

Should be it as far as I know. :doh:

[Castout]

Umm not many people playing online. In fact there are more people playing Dragon Rising. Tried joining an online session but nobody replied to my chat.

[Dowly]

They are all uptight elitist wankers like our Fincuan. :O: (<- JOKE)

[Arclight]

Over 8 pages of servers compared to barely 2 for A1... should be some people online. :hmmm:

Should be 250+ playing right now: http://arma2.swec.se/server/list


* sure you werent in vehicle channel or something? No one will hear you in there.

[Castout]

Umm a funny single player experience

On approach to enemy encampment I decided to get smart and hid the HUMVEE off the road in a wood. So we got to the encampment by foot which turned out to be already neutralized by friendly soldiers. After that we trailed our way back to the HUMVEE again to scout another objective.

CAN"T FIND THE BLOODY vehicle :har:. All trees look the same. I know the game is realistic because I sometimes can't find my way back to the car in the mall parking lot :damn:. Good thing I'm not in the military

[Castout]

Today is a holiday and I've been playing Arma 2 online with over 20 people and more AIs and the experience is TERRIFIC. This is a game which is meant for multi player instead of single player.

Of course because I'm residing in the middle of nowhere as far as ArmA 2 players are concerned I have quite a bad ping to everywhere. After playing for hours in the end something happened and I was getting message not receiving message and from that moment I was banned from the second best ping server in the entire list!(below 200ms) :damn:

Ouch but before that it was terrific. Much better experience from Dragon Rising though 300ms ping in Dragon Rising is acceptable and will not cause problems usually.

found a nice fellow fleuvehund too.

Edit:

I just spent 1 and a half hour trying to get sixupdater to work and redownloaded the ACE 2 mods but to no avail grrr such a pain to play this mod.(yes I read the guide to the letter but in the end the dos windows just closed)
Does anyone here play with ACE 2 or just vanilla?

[Fincuan]

ACE2, ACEX and some other mods all the way, they add so much to the game.

I only use Six-updater to install the latest Arma2 beta-patches automatically, while Yoma tools(imho much more user-friendly than Six) keeps ACE and others updated. The ACE2 release thread at BIS forums should list a few Yoma-sources should you want to go that way.

edit: Here's (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1373907&postcount=1309) the mod-setup I recommended for Dowly

[Castout]

ACE2, ACEX and some other mods all the way, they add so much to the game.

I only use Six-updater to install the latest Arma2 beta-patches automatically, while Yoma tools(imho much more user-friendly than Six) keeps ACE and others updated. The ACE2 release thread at BIS forums should list a few Yoma-sources should you want to go that way.

edit: Here's (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1373907&postcount=1309) the mod-setup I recommended for Dowly


Thanks I use Yoma now and have downloaded the latest ACE 2(351).

Though I only found one server(Kelly's) to download the mod from.

I'm experiencing blackscreen problem with ArmA. Not that often but happens now and then.

Does anybody experience blackscreen too? Is there a way to solve this problem?

[Castout]

Umm ArmA 2 has become my all time favorite since yesterday.

I've learned how to snipe properly using the scope reticle.

Still not advanced though but been raking kills with my new skills.

It feels great when you take 7 armed soldiers from the distance(300-600m) and they didn't even know where you were.

This game is AMAZING :yeah:
I'm going to grab Arrowhead too most definitely.

Played with mostly Australian community and a few European based server like Poland and Austria.

I've more fun with this game than with any of Total War series.
Not so looking forward to get that Napoleon Total War though will still probably get it once it's stocked.
Total War series feel more like a game for teenager while ArmA 2 is the game for adult gamers and army enthusiasts.

And yes this game is better than OFP: Dragon Rising.

[Arclight]

Don't mean to say I told you so, but it's just on a different level altogether. They did get it right with DR, kinda, but too many sacrifices to make it work on console. Leaving out graphics, you still miss being able to lean, walk, in-depth squad-AI control and still a lot of touches of realism; being able to reload when you want, even if full mag: it's not like a real mag "locks" itself if still full, preventing you from taking it out. Not that it adds anything, but it's realistic.

Ah, better to reload only empty mags btw: if you take out a half empty mag constantly, you eventually start loading those half-empty mags back in. They don't get magically refilled with spare bullets like in a shooter. At least, was like that in OFP. :hmmm:


Something I still miss though, something very few games get right, is an extra cartridge after reloading non-empty mag: When you load a mag and "cycle" the weapon, a cartridge is placed in the chamber, ready to fire. So even if you take out the mag at that point, there's still a cartridge in the weapon. Now if you load a fresh mag, you'll have a full mag + 1 (typically 31 rounds for 5.56 mags, 21 for 7.62).

[Castout]

It's okay if you said you told me so :DL.

I'm getting better with any rifle with mid range to long range scope that I saw one enemy soldier in the distance stood up and put both hands on his head indicating that he surrendered after his whole company which was trying to counterattack us in the airfield was wiped out ,quite a few from my accurate shot from the AK107.

Is it possible for AI to surrender in vanilla? though I'm playing with ACE 2.
If so what are we expected to do with surrendering soldiers?

In the game I just approached the AI then gave him a coup de grace in the face with my pistol. :/\\chop. Hey it;s okay to be mean in game besides I tried talking but couldn't.

[Arclight]

No experience with surrendering, though I think they can flee in OFP/ArmA (modded). As far as what you're supposed to do, I suggest you read up on the Geneva conventions. :O:

[Arclight]

Bit of a preview on Operation Arrowhead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owVGW_RRtAA

[Fincuan]

There is a surrender-module you can place in the editor and there's an animation for surrendering, as well as a corresponding key for the player(if you bind it you can put hands over your head), but I've never seen it happen in practice. That said I play almost exclusively user-made multiplayer missions, and the majority of those probably don't contain the module.

[Castout]

Umm I had my longest sniping kills yesterday the distance was half between 2 dots. Two dots is 850m while 4 dots(double of two) would make a target roughly half the range at 450m. So half between 2 dots would probably make the target at double 850m or about 1,600m or 1.6 click.


Windage played a big factor at this distance which I measured using the kestrel. I also played with scope setting too.

I made 2 kills at about 1,500-1,600m(standing up marksman in the woods) and another 1,400m-1,500m(a BMP 3 commander sticking out). All hit targets were stationary.

But I expended 6 magazines of TAC-50SD(silenced) or 30 bullets and only made that 3 kills and many many close hits :nope:(each kill averaging expending 7-8 bullets). The other targets which were moving were all missed.
Sniping is hard and painful because of the waiting and the ever changing adjustment thanks to the ever changing windage(going alternately in two direction and in changing strength). Hitting a moving target(walking) at more than 1,000 or 1,200m is also a pain in the ass due to combination of leading the target and the windage.

This TAC-50SD sniping rifle is amazing because they could engage a target up to 2,000m and they come equipped with silencer too(Played with ACE2 and ACEX).

The only shortcoming is my poor skills :hmmm:.

Well ArmA 2 is incredibly realistic when it comes to sniping(bullet trajectory). I've never played a more realistic shooter game than this.

Edit:
After a further practice I realized it was more probably 1,100 and 1,300m instead of 1,600 and 1,500 m

[Dowly]

Op. Dustoff (with wittering) Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U10blmkqXPU

[Castout]

Is anyone playing with the latest beta patch.

My benchmark 1 registered a lower average fps(by 2 points)
but the campaign and other missions gain substantial fps increase it seems :DL(from 4-10 fps more)

it has made me to avoid the latest official build for now. Quite contend with the beta patch.

Edit: Well the gain in fps was a false observation. FPS drops with the bat patch actually.

[Fincuan]

I believe they're testing different ways to make the game overall smoother, even at a slight cost to FPS. Somewhere in the beta-patch (http://forums.bistudio.com/forumdisplay.php?f=82) forums one of the devs said they especially want feedback on how smooth the game feels, and that benchmarks don't necessarily represent this very well. I noticed precisely this effect with one of the earlier beta-patches: smooth gameplay but slightly lower FPS. I haven't tried the latest ones so no idea on how they've progressed.

[Castout]

I see. There's an even newer one. They are releasing new beta build fast.

ACE 2 mod team is releasing their update much faster and much more often than Microsoft would update their OS. I don't know if it was passion or obsession. :)

[Dowly]

Dust off with witterin part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM2yW9U_BDM

[Gato76]

patch 1.07 released ...............
Version 1.07 Highlights


Numerous stability and peformance improvements
Various multiplayer fixes and improvements
Improved support for CPUs with 4 and more cores
Larger file cache on systems with more RAM
Sound improvements
AI improvements Finally ARMA2 will use more than 2 gig of ram :rock:

[kylania]

Operation Arrowhead has SHIPPED! :yeah: Tomorrow the dusty bullets fly!

[stabiz]

Crap!!!!!!! Forgot about this, but ordered it now.

[Castout]

I'm ordering Arrowhead online together with Napoleon Total War which is never stocked here by seller plus shipping is free and the price is great compared to buying from the retailer here.


PlayAsia (http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-ik8m-71-a-49-en-84-k-40-extended.html)

[Dowly]

Good luck with OA! BIS at it again! :haha:

"Performance optimizations" my arse.

As some had already mentioned there's a performance hit in Operation Arrowhead. Not just in Takistan, but also running Chernarus/Utes missions with the OA launcher. This thread is to help people get performance closer to vanilla ArmA2 1.07.

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=101124

[Arclight]

Unplayable > lots of patching > kinda playable > expansion > slideshow.

:hmmm:

[kylania]

Not sure what's wrong with you guys. There was a single patch, which was only to get ArmA II patched to 1.07 so that everyone was on the same patch level.

Performance for me was spectacular (all settings on High @1920x1200) and gameplay was super fun.

Only tried Multiplayer once, and crashed when some moron with ACE tried to join a non-ACE server, but otherwise was stable and solid for over an hour before I went to bed.

[Arclight]

System?

Performance is not satisfactory on 8800GTS512, Q9550 and 4GB low-latency DDR2, stuck on a P45 chipset.

If it doesn't run well on that, it's just not worth my time tbh.

[Fincuan]

Never been unplayable here. Granted I went straight to 1.01, which came out right after the German release that was supposedly pretty bad in its stock form. Nowadays the performance is ok on low/medium settings with the stock game, and reports from OA will follow once I get it. Besides being familiar with the engine since OFP the key to success has been regularily vacuuming the inside of the case, especially all the fans, as those Radeons need a lot of air to stay cool. :D

2xRadeon X1950 Pro 256 mb
C2D E6400 @ ~2.7ghz
4gb ram
W7 x64

[Arclight]

*sigh* I just expected a bit more than "ok on low/medium settings". With OA aparently imposing a performance decrease, it's gonna be less than "ok on low/medium settings". That's what bothers me. :-?

Arma runs fine on high/very high with a respectable viewdistance of 3km or more. Arma2 though, can't run it on high at a decent framerate, and I don't dare touch the viewdistance; that just kills it.

At least it's performance that's the main gripe now. At release, with the German version, getting through a campaign mission without it breaking was a matter of luck.

[stabiz]

Well, you`re GPU is medium so ...

[Arclight]

It was high-end 3 years ago. :O:

It runs everything perfectly fine, in most cases maxed-out, except Arma2... well, and Metro 2033, but that's a recent DX11 title. I don't care if my GPU is "medium", it should be enough to play it.

[Dowly]

Well, you`re GPU is medium so ...

9800GTX 512 here and have to play everything on low to get decent framerates and I'm not speaking in CS terms where decent is 99.9, but 30 to 35 depending if there's anyone around.

[stabiz]

I get that with all options maxed, standard view distance. (2000?)

Win7 64bit, HD5870, 8GB DDR2, Core 2 Duo E8500

This is not a monster computer either, except the GPU maybe. The game is a hog, sure, but I kind of get why its demanding.

[Arclight]

This is not a monster computer either, except the GPU maybe.
Maybe?! :haha: :DL

[Castout]

9800GTX 512 here and have to play everything on low to get decent framerates and I'm not speaking in CS terms where decent is 99.9, but 30 to 35 depending if there's anyone around.

Using 9800GTX+ myself Runs ArmA 2 okay but not great. But nothing unplayable.

But somewhere in youtube I saw an ArmA 2 clip played with 9800GTX and he almost maxed out his setting. It's more CPU than GPU. 9800GTX is still a decent card.

[Fincuan]

DLC with Brits announced for Operation Arrowhead:
http://www.arma2.com/game-features/arma-2-operation-arrowhead-british-armed-forces-features_en.html

[Oberon]

Very nice, good to see us getting some action :yeah: I see a Merlin and a Lynx in there, that'd please the missus, she likes the Lynx. Now I just have to get a rig that runs this. :hmmm:

[Dowly]

Now I just have to get a rig that runs this. :hmmm:

Don't worry, I bet a fiver that the readme says they have optimized the performance. :haha:

(sorry, couldn't help it!)

[Arclight]

:haha: read my mind, was holding back though. :O:


But that aside: how's Arrowhead? How are the new toys, single player campaign? :06:

[Egan]

But that aside: how's Arrowhead? How are the new toys, single player campaign? :06:

Great. The new maps are fantastic and so are the new units. Campaign is a bit meh, but who ever buys a Bis game for the campaigns anyway?

Even better are some of the new mods. The Undercover Tier 1 special forces are fantastic.

It's still got the best mission editor of any game i've ever played as well.

[stabiz]

Here is a small shootout in HD from OA, pretty much maxed settings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2-RPUZx9dA

[Arclight]

Looks nice, definetly an interesting setting. :)

Any new weapons? Tried the IR equipment yet? :06:

[Dowly]

Looks nice, definetly an interesting setting. :)

Any new weapons? Tried the IR equipment yet? :06:

Here's a demonstration vid about some of the new equipment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eQ-lEPog6Q

[Arclight]

Goodie, thanks. IR is awesome. Seeing through smoke really opens up another tactical aspect. :yeah:

[Dowly]

Goodie, thanks. IR is awesome. Seeing through smoke really opens up another tactical aspect. :yeah:

Oh yeh sure... like sniping thru the smoke and "accidentally" killing your fellow teammate? :shifty:

[Arclight]

Accidentally? :doh:

Usually it is very intentional. :hmm2:

[Zachstar]

Been playing Operation Arrowhead for the past 2 days.

One of the first things I have noticed is how much better it makes use of my Tri core CPU. In multiplayer and other game modes it was less likely to bog down.

[Fincuan]

I missed the DLC prising earlier, but here it is:

It will be available for GBP 7.99/EUR 8.99/USD 9.99


Quite a lot based on what content has been published so far. The units better be damn excellent quality and the campaign a good one. For Brit fans there's also "a light version of the British military version of Arma1": JCOVE Lite (http://www.jcove-lite.co.uk/)

[Dowly]

Campaign is a bit meh, but who ever buys a Bis game for the campaigns anyway?

Hehe, started the campaign last night. The opening cinematics were nice and gave a good feel about it... then I got to the first mission which was to take the airfield and the base adjanced to it. We landed straight into the airfield with enemy tanks around etc. :haha:

Think I go back to playing around with the editor. :DL

[Egan]

The editor rocks. I've spent the last four days scripting the intro for a mission I'm working on. It's the closest I'm ever going to get to being a film director. I've even just been loading up the new maps, sticking down a SUV and a civ unit and driving around looking for location to "shoot" in. All I've done recently is muck around in the editor and relive my youth by watching old skateboard videos from the 80's on youtube. A virtual pint to whoever can tell me which vid the phrase "Yabble Dabble" came from. I'll even throw in a packet of pork scratchings if you can tell me who said it? :DL

Neverwinter Nights 2 or Arma 2: which has got the better editing suite? I think this game just edges it. The scripting has always felt so much more intuitive than in NWN and it feels like you can do just about anything you can imagine.

I've always disliked the campaigns in Bis games; too often they just seem like it's your squad against an entire army. To be honest, if I want large scale combat in the angry desert I'll boot up CMSF.

[Dowly]

ArmA II had nice campaign, until they got lazy and turned it into singleplayer warfare mode. :nope:

[Egan]

Yeah, you're right there, actually. I lost interest about half way through it. it's a shame, I think, because the tools are there to create the most engrossing single player experience of any game on the market. They just need to think outside the box a bit more. Having said that, I guess they know that there will be a whole bunch of missions and campaigns cooked up by people that would do things Bis never even thought off.

[Kaye T. Bai]

Operation Arrowhead's campaign was rubbish. ArmA II's was decent, but I wouldn't necessarily call it good. Operation Flashpoint's three campaigns (Cold War Crisis, Red Hammer, Resistance) were the best and are still good, even by today's standards.

[Dowly]

Operation Flashpoint's three campaigns (Cold War Crisis, Red Hammer, Resistance) were the best and are still good, even by today's standards.

This true, played thru the CWC campaign month or so ago, next RH & R. :up:

[Fincuan]

Units, vehicles and equipment in the the British DLC published:
http://www.arma2.com/game-features/arma-2-operation-arrowhead-british-armed-forces-features_en.html

Lots of new toys, and FINALLY looks like also a sniper rifle in .338 :yeah:

[Arclight]

Really?! Been waiting ages for .338 Lapua. :yeah:

Seriously, that alone is enough reason to buy for me. :doh:

[Fincuan]

I'm just hoping it really comes in .338, because afaik the Brits also use that same rifle in 7.62x51 NATO.

edit: Actually that variant should be the one chambered in .338:

AWSM (Arctic Warfare Super Magnum)

The Accuracy International AWSM is an AWM variant chambered for long, high-powered super magnum cartridges like the .338 Lapua Magnum round

[Arclight]

Aye, as far as I can "research", only Germany uses it as chambered for .300, all other countries adopted it chambered for .338. Looking very good. :yep:

Finally a dedicated sniper round. Let's hope they get the ballistics right. :hmmm:

[Herr-Berbunch]

OK, new to the world of Arma 2 but it looks great, is it worth getting the original 2 or should I go for Op Arrowhead, or even hang on for Combined Ops (on disc)?

[Arclight]

Arrowhead has more toys like FLIR, bit more advanced equipment overall I think. Havne't had hands on though, so not the best person to advice on this. :hmmm:

Does raise a question though: is all the new stuff available in ArmaII? Or is at least all the old stuff caried over into Arrowhead? :06:

[Dowly]

Does raise a question though: is all the new stuff available in ArmaII? Or is at least all the old stuff caried over into Arrowhead? :06:

IIRC, Arrowhead works like the CoH expansions i.e. old game gets the new toys aswell. :hmmm:

[Fincuan]

That's how it should go, or more like all the old stuff is "imported" into Arrowhead. Remember that with the engine everything is "mods", packed in .pbos, which the game loads when it starts. You could even remove all the original .pbos and it'd still run. I still don't have Arrowhead thanks to the great summer weather we have(no time for gaming) so I can't say for sure, but that's my impression from reading BIS forums (http://forums.bistudio.com).

Anyone new to the series should go for Combined Ops, as it has all the content published so far(Arma2+Arrowhead).

[Dowly]

...thanks to the great summer weather we have...

You call this great? I just took a shower, walked 100 meters to get me some smokes and when I got back I already needed another shower! It's fricking 30C here! TOO STINKING HOT! :shifty:

[Fincuan]

Call this god's punishment resulting from your complaints of cold during the past winter then :D

[Dowly]

Call this god's punishment resulting from your complaints of cold during the past winter then :D

God is a lie and I like winter.

[Fincuan]

That sounds more like it

Who's the chick in you sig btw?

[Dowly]

Who's the chick in you sig btw?

You're the 6th who asks that. :haha: Keira. (with someone elses body :O:)

[Fincuan]

Should have put the answer in your profile(I looked there before asking), you knew what was going to follow with that kind of sig :D

Yeah, that body looks slightly "better equipped" than Keira's.

[ajrimmer42]

:rotfl2: ^^^ Loving the sig Dowly ;) though I have to say i do rather like Keira's 'standard' body :D

On topic however, I've just completed Harvest Red, I'd say it took me ages but tbh I've never really tried before lol, but just felt like playing through it the other day. Buggy as hell, but enjoyable none the less. Now to give OA a go.

[Bort]

Just purchased Combined Operations last night and am loving every minute. Always loved Operation Flashpoint but was severely disappointed with ArmA I and its bugginess. This is turning out to be a much better experience apart from some minor performance issues. Hope to get on MP some time soon. :up:

[Dowly]

:rotfl2: ^^^ Loving the sig Dowly ;) though I have to say i do rather like Keira's 'standard' body :D

Aye, nothing against her own body, just hard to fight good pictures of her. :hmmm:

[Herr-Berbunch]

OK, I've discovered my boss bought Arma 2 and only played it for ten minutes before giving up (he's more of a 'roll a 56 to continue' fantasy player) so he's giving it to me and then I'll just get OA later. Thanks for all your answers, and Dowly, thanks for your sig - she makes me smile every day (I won't ask who she is...:O:)

[Castout]

Why do men always like the same kind of women?!

It is my wish to fall in love with what I think is the most beautiful women in the world that everybody else finds very ugly :hmmm:

Umm as for OA...still waiting for my copy to arrive I think it will in one or two days or sometime this week.

[Castout]

My OA copy arrived today after 4 weeks and 4 days of waiting :dead:.

I must say I'm impressed. The graphics are amazing to me and the performance is great imo!

My only complaint is the US mil dot system not accurately being implemented giving US sniping system a seemingly ridiculously short effective range :damn:

[Herr-Berbunch]

My OA copy arrived today after 4 weeks and 4 days of waiting :dead:.

I must say I'm impressed. The graphics are amazing to me and the performance is great imo!

My only complaint is the US mil dot system not accurately being implemented giving US sniping system a seemingly ridiculously short effective range :damn:

Glad you've finally got it, just got my bosses copy of II about an hour ago but think I'll not get chance to install until Wed/Thurs pm. :nope: Bloody family!

[Castout]

Glad you've finally got it, just got my bosses copy of II about an hour ago but think I'll not get chance to install until Wed/Thurs pm. :nope: Bloody family!

Waited 6 weeks and 4 days for it. The two weeks for it to be shipped :D.

I found ZargaFAT. Boy fps really hurting there but aside from there it's great. Smoother than original ArmA 2. And the graphics is even more impressive especially the buildings as well as the vehicle textures.

Now if they would give us a no CD patch :).

I can't live without ACE 2 for ArmA 2. Make sure you got them Berbunch. Latest should be 373. I'm using Yoma AddOn sync to download and update them.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Thanks for that Castout, noted. You may want to edit your last post as I'm not sure you can mention mods for other games?:up:

[Raptor1]

Thanks for that Castout, noted. You may want to edit your last post as I'm not sure you can mention mods for other games?:up:

Mods for other games? Why not?

[Arclight]

Il-2 confusion, me thinks.

It is rather confusing. :doh:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Is it just IL-2 mods we're not aloud to mention then? Or any non-sub game?

Confused? - yes :doh:

I just didn't want somebody being helpful to be criticised/lambasted/keelhauled/brigged/slapped on the wrist/looked at in a disapproving fashion/tutted at, or, wait for it - cast out :har:

[Arclight]

Il-2 is tricky because it makes some changes that makes it rather similar to some form of piracy.

Hope I'm not saying too much right there. :hmmm:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Shhh, "IL-2", piracy? Confused? Still? :yep: Oh, yes!

[Raptor1]

IL-2 mods are mentionable, just not linkable, as they require modifications to the executable to work.

Other games don't have that problem, especially ArmA, which is practically designed to work with mods. So there should be no reason not to be able to talk about them.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Thanks Arclight, and Raptor1. :up:

[Egan]

Waited 6 weeks and 4 days for it. The two weeks for it to be shipped :D.
Now if they would give us a no CD patch :).


For Arma2/OA combined? I'm pretty sure you don't need the disk in the machine to play.

[Castout]

For Arma2/OA combined? I'm pretty sure you don't need the disk in the machine to play.

yes you do I believe..but wait a minute. Just put the disc back into the cartidge and voila ArmA 2/OA would still kick in.

[Egan]

yes you do I believe..but wait a minute. Just put the disc back into the cartidge and voila ArmA 2/OA would still kick in.

Sorry, maybe because it's early and I'm still mostly asleep but I'm not following you here: are you saying that you DO need the oa disk in the machine to play OA/Combined Ops? Both my disks are in their boxes and the game starts and runs fine for me by clicking on the Combined Arms shortcut.

Perhaps you need to update to th OA 1.52 patch?

Of course, I might be misunderstanding you. As I said it's too early for thinking and I should probably go forrage for coffee and a bacon roll instead of Reading teh internet.

EDIT: I am now slightly more awake. I take it when you say 'cartridge' you mean 'box' or 'case'? Working as it should, then.

[Castout]

Sorry, maybe because it's early and I'm still mostly asleep but I'm not following you here: are you saying that you DO need the oa disk in the machine to play OA/Combined Ops? Both my disks are in their boxes and the game starts and runs fine for me by clicking on the Combined Arms shortcut.

Perhaps you need to update to th OA 1.52 patch?

Of course, I might be misunderstanding you. As I said it's too early for thinking and I should probably go forrage for coffee and a bacon roll instead of Reading teh internet.

EDIT: I am now slightly more awake. I take it when you say 'cartridge' you mean 'box' or 'case'? Working as it should, then.

Turned out for me I still need the OA disc except if I play the beta version of combined operation.

Running 1.52 here.


Anyway I received the following warning from my security app when trying to run combined operation.

A picture tells a thousand words

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/roh_kudus/OA.jpg


:hmmm:

[Castout]

Umm new patch for OA that includes British Forces albeit with lower textures quality and voice unless you buy the DLC

http://www.arma2.com/supply/game-updates/file/352-a2oa_patch_154.html?lang=en

[Egan]

Yep. Lower quality doesn't even begin to describe it though. Best to think of them as a preview more than anything. Aside from this, thoughts on the patch anyone? I've only tootled around the new Sharpur map so far so I haven't really clocked any performance increases so far - which would be very nice. DLC link should go active in about a half hour. I'm off work with an infected abscess in my tooth so I'm counting the minutes....Get a cup of tea and then dive into the new campaign and see how the new IED stuff looks.

[Castout]

Umm I won't be buying the British Forces...too early imo they should have been included in the original OA or as another standalone that's worth retail.

Seeing through non paid British sniper scope really hurts since the dots are blurred but the weapon itself seemed to be a super uber sniping rifle so much so it took away the skill from sniping and some fun from it thus :D.....too bad I wanted to know more about this US allies weaponry. The British are known to emphasize on quality to help their relatively small forces(compared to US).




Well I can always download British forces mod . . .

[Fincuan]

If you can find me some reference sources on how the scope, or more precisely the reticle, should really look like I can whip up a replacement in no time.

[Oberon]

If you can find me some reference sources on how the scope, or more precisely the reticle, should really look like I can whip up a replacement in no time.

Might want to speak to Dowly, he was working on one for the ARMA version. IIRC it's quite a simple scope...but then I was playing with the tourist version so the actual combat version might be different.
Tis a lovely scope though, although I love the auto-adjusting short and long range sights on the SA-80. Damn they're clear and very nicely made, being replaced by the controversial US 'bible' sights though, not sure what they're like, but if they're better than the ones the SA-80 already uses, then it should be some special stuff :up:

[Dowly]

Which rifle are we talking about? L96? :hmmm:

EDIT: Nvm. Oberon, think I did scope for the L96, not the AWSM.

EDIT2: According to Wiki it uses the same scope as L96 so here we go:

http://nation.towergaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/009sniper_800x629.jpg


The pic is pretty crappy, but Fin, if you got Battlefield 2, you can check the L96's scope in it, it's identical to this pic.

[Oberon]

Pants, thought it was the L96 in the BAF addon. :haha:

Here we go Finn:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/S%26B_P4_reticle_at_5x_zoom.png/600px-S%26B_P4_reticle_at_5x_zoom.png


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt_%26_Bender

:rock:

[Fincuan]

Thanks, that should enable me to find the scope's specs from S&B's website. The reticles you two posted are different though, so any idea on which one they actually use, or do they use several different ones? S&B ships even their civilian scopes with a number of possible reticles, and I imagine military customers can choose pretty much anything they want. I'd rather not use BF2 as reference because I have no idea where they took the data from. All the reticles I've made so far are as pixel-perfectly close to their real-life counterparts as the A2 engine allows, and I'd like to keep it that way.

@Dowly's pic: I love it how the "pocket laser rangefinder" is in the guy's balls :D

[Egan]

Umm I won't be buying the British Forces...too early imo they should have been included in the original OA or as another standalone that's worth retail.
Well I can always download British forces mod . . .


Suit yourself. It's pretty nice. Great new units, new voices, new (small) map, new campaign and a pile of single missions. The new Merlin and Wildcat are very, very sweet indeed. I've just been tooling about central Takistan in the Wildcat. Great fun.

The various Brit mods are really nice as well, especially the most recent weapon pack. I think the only thing I'm seriously missing now between the various mods and this DLC is a Scimitar.

Think I'll start the campaign in a bit. Seems to be a good un from what I've heard.

[Arclight]

So can you confirm there's actually .338 Lapua in there? Or did they get lazy again and just chamber the weapons for 7.62? :06:

[Egan]

So can you confirm there's actually .338 Lapua in there? Or did they get lazy again and just chamber the weapons for 7.62? :06:

.338 Lapua magnum is there. Haven't tried it, though.

[Arclight]

I've been hoping for that caliber since... :hmmm: ... since I figured out what it is. :lol:

That it's there is good enough for me, gonna look into getting OA. :yep:

(GTX460 on the way :yeah: arrives late next month :nope:)

[Castout]

If you can find me some reference sources on how the scope, or more precisely the reticle, should really look like I can whip up a replacement in no time.

Hey thanks for the offer. I figured it was easy to replace as well with mods. As a matter of fact probably people are going to make them soon.

Which rifle are we talking about? L96? :hmmm:




Well it wasn't an L96 I'm sure of that but I don't really know what it was not being familiar with British weaponry and because I just made a real quick mission with a British sniper unit(2 men) against a dozen enemy, what I know is that it was supposed to be a long range sniper rifle.


That it's there is good enough for me, gonna look into getting OA. :yep:

(GTX460 on the way :yeah: arrives late next month :nope:)

Go get it!:yep: It's plenty fun

[VanhA]

Hi guys.
I accidentally stumbled upon a video of you guys playing some old ****e of mine (Delivery Boyz).
Thought I'd pop in and say hello. Never thought those oldies would still be played...
Thanks for posting it.
:salute:

BR
VanhA

[Dowly]

Welcome aboard! :salute:

And thanks for the mission, had great fun playing it. :haha:

[Oberon]

Great mission mate, thanks for making it. :yeah:

[Raptor1]

Aye, that was fun...if somewhat painful... :O:

[Crécy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KK6Fo3Y0AU&feature=relat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KK6Fo3Y0AU&feature=related)ed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KK6Fo3Y0AU&feature=related)

:o

[VirtualVikingX]

Are there any servers with subsim guys on? I am really struggeling to find a good game online. So far its been chaos - more or less.

[Arclight]

Could do something like we do for ArmA; set up local server and run some smaller missions (6-8 coop). Easier to manage, doesn't degrade into a team-based deathmatch or something.

[Spike88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KK6Fo3Y0AU&feature=relat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KK6Fo3Y0AU&feature=related)ed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KK6Fo3Y0AU&feature=related)

:o


This video makes my laptop cry. It has a hard enough time playing ARMA II on High. :haha:

[Fincuan]

School FINALLY eased off enough so that I dared to order Operation Arrowhead. Apart from a few hours of Minecraft I really haven't done any gaming in months. Attending a military school really kills one's gaming appetite what comes to shooters. Now that there's again such a thing as free time I'm really looking forward to some time on the ground in Takistan. :yeah:

Has any other Clown bought OA yet?

[Lionclaw]

I have ArmA 2, but haven't purchased the stand alone expansion yet.

I need a little computer upgrade for better performance regarding ArmA 2, but when that will happen is uncertain. :)

[Raptor1]

By the end of the month I should be able to catch up with the games I would've bought already if it weren't for other games getting in the way, and I suppose OA is on the list.

[Arclight]

Installed and ready. :yep:

Which reminds me; haven't picked up BAF yet. :hmmm:

[Oberon]

Installed and ready. :yep:

Which reminds me; haven't picked up BAF yet. :hmmm:

Get it!

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01358/SA80_rifle_1358335c.jpg

SA80A2 :yeah:

[Fincuan]

Ah yeah, I'll have to get that one too. The LRR scope I promised to make is probably slightly overdue :O:

[Arclight]

SA80A2 :yeah:
Doesn't fire .338 Lapua. :O:

[Oberon]

Doesn't fire .338 Lapua. :O:

....

Let me try that again:


Get it!

http://www.army.mod.uk/images/central-panel/sniper.jpg

L115A3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills) :yeah:

[Arclight]

There we go. :DL

Just bought it. And yes, purely for .338 Lapua. Gonna be disappointed if they just chambered it for 7.62 again. Though the mk 262 cartridge for the 5.56 marksman rifles was very accurate... for a 5.56 cartridge. No punch though.

7.62 rounds drop a little too fast at long range for my taste.

[Raptor1]

Right, just got OA and BAF. It is conveniently 50% off on Steam and GamersGate right now, if anyone wants to buy it.

[Fincuan]

Same pricing on Sprocket aswell.

OA is pretty good and provides many long-wanted fixes, even if some of those should really have been there from the beginning.

It was so good my other X1950 Pro gave up and started giving BSODs, leaving me unable to run the game properly. Time to go shopping :-)

[ShadowWolf Kell]

Arma's pretty cool but it's even better if you get the Warfare Benny Edition mod. Adds in a ton of stuff into Warfare multiplayer mode as well as incorporates Arma2, OA and BAF together so you can use EVERYTHING on any of the Warfare maps included with the BE version. It also has a wide variety of customization options. Probably the most played mod for Arma2 next to ACE.


And yes Arclight, there is .338 Lapua in the game. You need to the BAF DLC though which usually runs I think $4-9.

[Arclight]

Have it, and *ahem* Woot!. :D

[Fincuan]

No BAF DLC needed for. 338, at least for me it came with BAF(Light), which came with OA or one of its patches. The British sights are incredibly badly made btw, just unbelievable how they let that kind of crap out.

[Fincuan]

Right, after a not-so-extensive research I decided to get a non-factory-overclocked Nvidia 460 GTX based card with 768mb of memory. It sells for 150€ at my local shop, the cheapest price I could find anywhere on this continent. Depending on the exact stock situation I might also pick up a 1024mb version(169€) when I go there tomorrow.

Any comments or experiences?

[Arclight]

Gigabyte 1GB 460 here. Lovely card; cool as a breeze (runs as hot under load as my old card in idle), easy on the PSU and scores high on performance. Quiet too, thanks too the custom cooler. Factory OC without price increase (yay Gigabyte) and can go a lot further with little effort. Quite a nice step up from an G92 8800GTS. :yep:

I say go with the 1GB model. There's more difference than just the amount of memory: the 768MB model has more of the core disabled. It's more like a GTX455 than a 460.

[Lionclaw]

Got Operation Arrowhead now when it was on sale at GamersGate. :up:

Now to tweak to get the most out of my computer.

[Fincuan]

Core 2 Quad Q6600 and Palit GF 460 GTX Sonic 1gb ordered. If they both work it'll be a hell of an Arma experience compared to what I'm used to :)

An SSD is next on the list, after which my PC's MLU is complete.

[Spike88]

Anyone else have trouble with with the Cannon portion of the Attack Helicopter training in OA?

My gunner would kill 2 out of the 3 targets and then refuse to kill the 3rd. I tried different angles of attack, switching before Fire/hold fire, switching weapons, hovering near the targets, flying at different levels, locking onto the target and telling him to fire, etc. Even loaded the save 5-6 times(2-3 of those where because I crashed and or flew into something). On my last try, he opens fire again killing 2 of the 3 yet again. And then 30 seconds later the 3rd one randomly exploded.

I wasn't going to complain.

[Spike88]

No BAF DLC needed for. 338, at least for me it came with BAF(Light), which came with OA or one of its patches. The British sights are incredibly badly made btw, just unbelievable how they let that kind of crap out.


Light versions are lesser version of the DLC so all versions can co-mingle. They mention that you get a low res model. Will have to check, but if you actually get the DLC I believe the quality is better.



Edit: Also I'm running the game at a steady 40-50FPS on my computer. :D And if anyone is interested I'd like to do some sniper scenarios(sniper+spotter).

[Raptor1]

I noticed since the last patch that most of the LOD texture loading issues I've had until now are gone, which was probably my greatest problem with ArmA II. The game is still a bit sluggish at certain points, but the performance is definitely much better now than it used to be.

[Arclight]

And if anyone is interested I'd like to do some sniper scenarios(sniper+spotter).
You know where to find me. :)

Usually distracted with something else, but always make time for a change of pace.

[Fincuan]

Haha :D

Just ran Arma2 with the GTX 460 for the first time, and I'm a happy camper now. The performance was absolutely stunning compared to the crossfired X1950 Pros, and all this with the old CPU. The new GPU is also a lot quieter and runs cooler than the previous two cards. Can't wait for the quad-core to arrive...

Anyone up for some games later tonight? Preferably with Arma2+OA with ACE+ACEX, if you guys have the mods. If not vanilla will do fine too.

[Arclight]

Is nice, eh? Love that 460. :)

Got the game installed with OA, no BAF yet (bought but not downloaded yet). And it's vanilla; haven't really gotten around playing it yet, so ACE is still on the todo list.

[Spike88]

Hopefully I can get an answer by asking, as searching yielded nothing. Last night I played the ARMA 2 mission where the game switches over into warfare mode. I found out how to buy units, but all the units I made went into my squad with a limit of 12. This brought up the question of "How the hell do I create new squads?!".

[Dowly]

I guess the OA beta patches are just for OA?

[Fincuan]

Yep

[Penguin]

Is the OA multiplayer compatible with vanilla Arma 2? Or could I only play the Arrowhead maps in mp and not play with people who have only the standard edition?

I'm still undecided which version to buy, I like to fight in Europe, but OA seems to have some improvements over vanilla.
Sadly no shop in the UK seems to have combined arms :cry:

[Spike88]

Is the OA multiplayer compatible with vanilla Arma 2? Or could I only play the Arrowhead maps in mp and not play with people who have only the standard edition?

I'm still undecided which version to buy, I like to fight in Europe, but OA seems to have some improvements over vanilla.
Sadly no shop in the UK seems to have combined arms :cry:

It's called Combined Operations :O:. There is some connection when you have both, but I'm not sure what. I know I can load the ARMA 2 maps if I launch Combined Operations through steam(despite the fact that ARMA 2 is disk version, and OA is steam version.)

If you don't have some reason not to use steam, I would suggest getting the steam version.

[Spike88]

As a note, the PMC dlc has been available(at least via steam) since November 30th.

[Dowly]

Combined Operations = ArmA 2 + Arrowhead

[Arclight]

Don't think OA and ArmA2 are compatible; they run of different executables, essentialy making them different games.

Can't say for certain, haven't tried.

[VirtualVikingX]

Combined Operations loads with the OA exe - and with Arma 2 as an expansion.

[Arclight]

.338 Lapua Magnum is bloody awesome.

That is all.

[Penguin]

Thanks for the answers, guys! :up:

I think I'm going with vanilla first, then get OA later if I like it. And I'm sure I'll like it, was a big fan of OFP in the days.


I have some reasons not to get the game by steam:

- the boxed version is only 2/3 of the price @ steam
- I'm sitting on 2Mbit for various reasons, dl takes the same time as snail mail delivery
- most important: steam supports censorship. Latest example: You cannot install the uk version of Black Ops here. The uncensored austrian version which only missed the swazis was also prohibited here, so also not playable. They can even reverse the ability to use your product after the first installation. Telling an adult what to do with legal purchased games? GTFO!

[Raptor1]

Thanks for the answers, guys! :up:

I think I'm going with vanilla first, then get OA later if I like it. And I'm sure I'll like it, was a big fan of OFP in the days.


I have some reasons not to get the game by steam:

- the boxed version is only 2/3 of the price @ steam
- I'm sitting on 2Mbit for various reasons, dl takes the same time as snail mail delivery
- most important: steam supports censorship. Latest example: You cannot install the uk version of Black Ops here. The uncensored austrian version which only missed the swazis was also prohibited here, so also not playable. They can even reverse the ability to use your product after the first installation. Telling an adult what to do with legal purchased games? GTFO!

Get OA first, I think. It's much more stable and most MP servers are on it.

[Arclight]

And expansions and such are based on it, ArmA2 is essentialy deprecated. OA also offers a more advanced engine, which includes stuff like working weapon-mounted flashlights and thermal imaging scopes/FLIR.

[Dowly]

Stupid OA... :nope:

[Penguin]

ok,ok, you guys convinced me - and are making me poor :)

I have just ordered Combined Operations, so I'll soon be able to shoot at fellow subsimmers :D. Anyone up for a game on friday?

And are there any essential mods which you can recommend?

[VirtualVikingX]

ok,ok, you guys convinced me - and are making me poor :)

I have just ordered Combined Operations, so I'll soon be able to shoot at fellow subsimmers :D. Anyone up for a game on friday?

I can heartly recommened this server (The Naked Fanatics):

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=102268

I play there as often as I can. Maybe you will join us?

[CodyLang]

I started playing ArmA when A1 came out years ago...but still play alot!...buttt, I have satalite internet now, so my ping is really high, but I can still play for some reason...I am just so glad I can atleast play my favorite game online:)...my name on there is Langford-Satalite.

[Spike88]

I need a human guinea pig to test out the AH11 Wildcat. I think I've figured out what the laser designator does, but I'm unsure.

[Penguin]

I can heartly recommened this server (The Naked Fanatics):

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=102268

I play there as often as I can. Maybe you will join us?

Sounds good - dunno if I meet the mature requirements though ;)

I don't know if I can bind the boxed version into steam (I'm not per se against steam, just don't want to be dependent on them) Is there another way to reach out to you guys?

Time is one of my resources where I am in short supply, but I would love to join an occasional game.

[CodyLang]

At Night time, you guys should look up Cerb in the filters its a pvp, dm server...all of us guys get on when everybody gets off work...Real fun, and really the only pvp server I can play in without getting kicked because of my ping lol.

[Spike88]

After messing around in Editor, and several tutorials later, I am fairly confident I can make MP scenarios in ARMA 2 OA.

But just to take it a step further, and possibly set myself up for failure and or reticule, I have decided to start a full campaign. I will upload the missions as I make them.

[Dowly]

Making working SP missions is easy, making working MP missions takes more reading and trial and error.

[Spike88]

Making working SP missions is easy, making working MP missions takes more reading and trial and error.


I shall use you all as my beta testers :D.


Edit: Which also has the added benefit of knowing whether or not my missions/story are any good and whether or not I should continue.

[Dowly]

Right, fair enough. :DL

If you do make any tests yourself in regards to the functionality of the mission, set up a dedicated server and test it there. Hosting locally gives you false results on how it plays out for other players.

[Spike88]

Simple question(It appears simple questions are the hardest to find answer for):

How the hell do I break a unit out of another unit's command?

I know I can surpass the whole ordeal by placing units away from other units, and then dragging them to their positions, but that's a bit tedious.

Bit of a pain in the ass when I want to place a unit close to another and it automatically joins the form of command, especially when it's supposed to decoration.


Edit: Of course I ask and then immediately find the answer via trial and error.

All I had to do was remove the unit via groups.

[Spike88]

Bit offtopic, but related to ARMA 2 nonetheless.


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/Tetsou88/LAWL.png


I... I... don't know what to say... :har:

He then leaves comments saying he can give the link to his website via email so you can see what he's written in C++

[VirtualVikingX]

Sounds good - dunno if I meet the mature requirements though ;)

I don't know if I can bind the boxed version into steam (I'm not per se against steam, just don't want to be dependent on them) Is there another way to reach out to you guys?

Time is one of my resources where I am in short supply, but I would love to join an occasional game.

Im not sure I understand. Is this any help:

http://nakedfanatics.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=42

Steam is of course optional.

[Penguin]

Im not sure I understand. Is this any help:

http://nakedfanatics.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=42

Steam is of course optional.


tusen takk! I'll register there. Didn't get that Steam is optional.

I was talking before about the option of steam that you are able to include certain games into your steam account without the requirement that you bought them through steam and thus being able to use the steam community features.

[VirtualVikingX]

We only use Steam for chatting, seeing when people are online. So you dont need to "bind" Arma 2 to Steam in anyway - if you want to use it that is.

Glad you will register - you dont have to register to play on the NF-server. Just filter for "naked" in the MP-interface. Its open.

If you register, please say that I sent you ;)

[Arclight]

This is the one I played on once right? Might drop in more often, if I get into playing OA on a regular basis (starting to look that way). :)

[VirtualVikingX]

Thats correct, Arc. Its a wonderfull mix of great people, relaxed atmosphere, proper communications and command. And and good mix of game types/ self made missions.

If you like Arma 2 MP, I can really recommend it!

[CodyLang]

Any of you guys play ACE?

[VirtualVikingX]

Any of you guys play ACE?

Nope, never tried it. Is it good?

[CodyLang]

I been that since day 1 just like ArmA...Its mainly co-op...the download is probably 3 gigs or so...there constantly updating it...It makes things so much real...its like the GWX mod for SH3...but not many people use it still Operation Arrowhead is still realitivly new...So I use a few sound mods, and effects when servers don't allow ACE....but check out some OA ACE videos on youtube.

[Arclight]

We played Arma 1 with ACE. Not bothering yet with A2, and to be honest, I quite like it without. Most of the ACE features have been incorporated into A2/OA anyway.

[Oberon]

Well, I've got the Arrowhead demo working quite well, but for some reason the ARMA2 demo won't let me do anything with the keyboard or the controls menu (Arrowhead won't let me reassign controls either). I've heard a possibility it might be related to Newview which I've got for IL2.

[Arclight]

Just as a test, have a stroll through a dense urban bit. That still causes quite a drop in fps for me.

Glad to hear it though. No intention to abandon A1 unless everyone can run A2 (to their satisfaction), but I must say that now I've invested some time into OA, it's really growing on me.

(not a clue on the controls bit, never heard of the issue)

[Oberon]

Just run OA with a tank battle in the middle of one of their towns. The AI movement reminds me a bit of ARMAs, although it could be because they're low rank I think. But it ended in a pretty decisive US victory. The Abrams drivers do love to spam smoke.

Framerates were...alright, not too brilliant but not a slideshow.

Funniest part of the battle happened when a T-72 drove past an Abrams in the smoke, then both realised what had just happened and turned to engage, but the Abrams got off the first shot at close range.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5213/tankbattle.jpg

[Raptor1]

I think the demo is running an older version, and since there were quite a few performance enhancements in the last few patches, the full game will probably run better than it to some extent.

[Spike88]

My first mission(Unrelated to campaign is nearing completion).

It'll be a simple 8Player Co-op with a Squad of 6 and a AH11 Wildcat for two. The squad will have to attack two villages and kill any Takistan Presence. The Wildcat will attack one village and then help the Squad with the assault on the second village. Afterwords the AH11 will extract the squad back to base.

[Arclight]

AH11 is player controlled? If not, I predict the mission will grind to a halt at extraction. :D

[Oberon]

AH11 is player controlled? If not, I predict the mission will grind to a halt at extraction. :D

Grind to halt or into a tree... :hmmm:

[HunterICX]

Grind to halt or into a tree... :hmmm:

Well at least it isn't a light tower.....wait unless the pilot is..... YOU!!!! :o

HunterICX

[Spike88]

AH11 is player controlled? If not, I predict the mission will grind to a halt at extraction. :D



Pilot and Co-pilot are controllable. Although according to you, my flying is comparable to that of the AI. :haha:

Hell, Lion will say the same.

That tree was awfully close. :har:

And that was after the 3 times we restarted the mission because I flew the AH11 into something.

[Oberon]

Well at least it isn't a light tower.....wait unless the pilot is..... YOU!!!! :o

HunterICX

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http://www.lighthouse.net.au/lights/Bulletin/0001/Pt%20Gelibrand%20Fire.jpg

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http://m2.wnymedia.net/files/2009/08/Borat_Great_Success.jpg

[Arclight]

Brit + UH-60 + lighthouse = epic + win?

[Oberon]

Brit + UH-60 + lighthouse = epic + win?

:rock:

[Oberon]

It would seem I have ARMA2 coming for Christmas. :yeah:

[Raptor1]

*puts in an order for more emergency parachutes*

[Oberon]

Is the BAF DLC compatible with ARMA2 or is it just OA?

All these DLCs and expansions confuse me.

[Raptor1]

BAF, along with everything else coming out is for OA, which is standalone and doesn't require A2. The only reason to get the original game is if you want to combine the old content into OA.

[Fincuan]

It's OA only.

If you only get one get OA, but I'd recommend to get both. In any case you'll always be using the OA executable, and all content from the original Arma2 will be loaded as mods.

[Oberon]

We'll have to see how my HD holds out...long overdue to get another one to free up some more room. :yep:

[Fincuan]

I'll be playing Arma2 on Tacticalgamer's Alpha server for the next few hours. No mods required, so hop in!

[Arclight]

A2 or OA? Can't say I'm interested in playing my German A2 copy. :lol:

[Fincuan]

Combined Ops

Yay for English Arrowhead, makes the whole game english again :)

[Arclight]

Im installing A2 again; aparently if you run OA installer with it installed it will merge the content on it's own. Had it on HD, but the keys weren't in registry, so ended up with separate installs. See how this pans out. :hmmm:

[Spike88]

Im installing A2 again; aparently if you run OA installer with it installed it will merge the content on it's own. Had it on HD, but the keys weren't in registry, so ended up with separate installs. See how this pans out. :hmmm:


I believe I installed ARMA 2 again before downloading the steam version of OA, I know I can load up "Combined Operations" through steam which is basically OA but you can also use Utes, and the Chernarus. Don't know whether or not weapons carry over. Been too busy to check.

[Arclight]

Yeah, after getting everything reinstalled I got Combined Ops shortcut too. All the gear and campaigns were added into Arrowhead. Is nice. :)

[Castout]

I'm using the i5 3.33GHz(2 cores/4 threads) now from the old Core 2 Duo 2.8GHz. The boost to fps is amazing when the scenario is not full of AI......but went down when playing say warfare games or heavier user campaign :nope:.


I should have bought i7 :damn:

[Arclight]

Imho you should have just gotten a quad i5.

[VirtualVikingX]

Imho you should have just gotten a quad i5.

+1

(My i5 760 is wonderfull. OC'ed to 4.2.)

[Castout]

Imho you should have just gotten a quad i5.

Aye I thought all i5 were quad core . . .when I read the box that mine was double core instead I raised my eyebrows then I said meh....not too wise of me.

That was my intention to buy a quad core. The quad core i5s were the first i5s as far as I know(i5 750).

Oh well it means I'll be spending some money a year from now to get an i7 :damn:.

Not that the i5 661 a slow processor just that for playing games like ArmA 2 I could get some real boost from a quad core than a two core albeit with 4 thread processor.

Made a mistake obviously.

[Arclight]

I don't see much benefit of going with i7 over i5 on LGA1156. The only difference is that i7 offers Hyper-threading which, as you have noticed, isn't all that beneficial when it comes to gaming (better to have the nescesary physical cores and horsepower).

Not saying Hyper-threading is pointless, just that at the price difference I don't see it making sense.

The fastest i5 (760) clocks in at 2.8GHz, costing around $200,- (release price according to wiki). A 2.67GHz i7 on the other hand already comes in at $350,-.

If you're really interested in an i7 I'd switch to a LGA1366 board.

(That is assuming these prices are at all accurate. Varies quite a bit)

[Castout]

Maybe in a year the i7 prices will start to drop down a bit.

Threading is a must imo. The only salvation from my i5 661 is the threading.

I get substantial boost in fps compared to my old PC(COre 2 Duo 2.8GHz) just that when there are tons of things that the fps would start to get pulled down to ridiculous level. In most cases I'm getting more than 30 fps even to the 40s or 50s now even in large towns with many things going on and I'm convinced in ArmA 2 it's the CPU which is the bottleneck than the GPU in most cases having had switched the CPU now with the same old GPU. Quite happy with that but I wonder how much it could even improve with a quad core.

If the i7 prices have not gone down a year from now I'll remember that i5 760 at 2.8GHz.

As for motherboard I'm happy with my P55-UD3L(LGA 1156). No way I'm replacing it too.

[Dowly]

ArmA AI's finest hour. :haha:
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/Arma_AI.jpg

[Oberon]

Is that just before one of them 'nades themselves? :hmmm:

[Lionclaw]

:06:

Is it that they have sidearms ready or?

[Dowly]

:06:

Is it that they have sidearms ready or?

Yup, they had their rifles in hand when the patrol was 200m or so away, then the patrol got farther and they all switches to their pistols. :doh:

[Castout]

The AI in ArmA 2 has gone to worse or is it just me. Refusing to move, vehicles hitting or driving over team mates . . . .:damn:

A lot of frustration now.

[Dowly]

The AI in ArmA 2 has gone to worse or is it just me. Refusing to move, vehicles hitting or driving over team mates . . . .:damn:

A lot of frustration now.

Noticed a few times that they are dumber than in A1. Started a custom campaign yesterday where I command a small Delta Force team. Had to quit as my guys would just keep running, taking cover, not staying in formation and just generally doing whatever they want. And no, there was no enemies around anymore. :doh:

Oh yeh and that driving over thingy, same campaign, same try. UAZ comes down the road, my team shoots it and #2 just stands on the road as the now "dead" UAZ runs him over. :damn: Some collision detection would be nice for the AI to counter these situations... it's been in games since, oh I don't know, the dark ages. :nope:

Tho, most of the problems seem to be when I am commanding the troops, enemy acts pretty well most of the time.

[Arclight]

Think that's bad? Try making a convoy, without resorting to extensive scripting. :shifty:

* and yeah, it worked fine in the past. Now the formation member in front triggers evasive behaviour, even though they're all going in the same direction, are 25m apart and speed is limited to frickin 5 km/h.

5! I can walk faster than that. :nope:

[Castout]

It wasn't like that prior to 1.56.

I was quite a happy man prior to 1.56 . . . . . .

[Arclight]

Ended up makin all units individuals, rather than a group; formation keeping is flaky. Noticed soldiers sometimes circling the spot they were supposed to be at, some vehicles display similar behaviour.

Now that they have no direct relation to each other, it works fairly reliably. Just a mess with waypoints, triggers and timing though.

[Spike88]

Couple of questions I hope someone can answer about the editor.


How do I start a C130 with engines off?


How do I get the same C130 to turn it's engine on and start taxi-ing once a squad gets in?

Is it possible to animate the doors from the inside? I use the animate command to do so, but you can only see the effect externally.

And finally I'm using the following to paradrop units once the plane reaches a trigger
_x action ["EJECT", vehicle _x];

unassignvehicle _x;I have to put it in multiple times for each unit I want to be paradropped. Is there a way to set it up so if the group leader is kicked out, everyone is?


Edit: And Speaking of dumb AI, the AI module for Civilian vehicles has a bad habit of putting them in places where they explode.