My father was a member in the Hitlerjugend - Page 3

Oberon · 01-06-15, 05:41 PM

Bread and Circuses. Quite the reversal of the later comments by Goering about guns and butter...although it's always puzzled me how long it took the German industry to switch into wartime mode. I doubt it would have helped them much more if it had switched earlier, certainly might have increased internal pressures, but the odds might have been a smidge more in Germanys favour when it came to Barbarossa, at least for the first year and a half.

I sometimes look at the HJ knife I have and I ponder its story, who owned it, what happened to them. Pretty sure they were in either the African theatre in 42-43 or the invasion of France in 1940, and they became a British POW, but that's about all I could guess based upon what I know of my great-grandfathers activities in WWII.

Sailor Steve · 01-06-15, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

It would have helped the people and the industry if he wasn't arresting or causing to flee all the Jewish and other "degenerate" engineers and designers in the german auto industry during 33/34.

Throwing money at auto racing while arresting or exiling leading contributors to the business is by no measure a good idea.

Fair point.

Cybermat47 · 01-06-15, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D

You got pregnant at the age of 16?

I was pregnant at 16, myself.

The thing is, I'm a 15 year old Male virgin, so I'm not sure how it happened.

jacobston · 01-06-15, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

I was pregnant at 16, myself.

The thing is, I'm a 15 year old Male virgin, so I'm not sure how it happened.

Time travel can be a fickle mistress...

kranz · 01-07-15, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Autobahn projects, planned by the weimar republic.

planned by the weimar republic, executed by the nazis.
Burleigh calls them 'Hitler's autobahns'.

Betonov · 01-07-15, 08:58 AM

is inspiring Chaplin to do ''The great dictator'' a good idea ??

Penguin · 01-07-15, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D

I guess, I would have been in the Hitler Youth, too, if I was born back then.

Well, I'm glad in my town we had the choice to join the Edelweiß- or Kittelbachpiraten.

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Originally Posted by Dan D

my other grand-father was unfit for duty because he had a hockey-caused knee-injury (at Auschwitz jk).

That's inapropriate: My grandfather died in Auschwitz

- he was hit by a hockey puck while drinking in the guard tower.

Penguin · 01-07-15, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kranz

planned by the weimar republic, executed by the nazis.
Burleigh calls them 'Hitler's autobahns'.

"Hitler's Autobahnen" falls into the same category as "Polish death camps."

Oberon · 01-07-15, 03:15 PM

mapuc · 01-07-15, 03:53 PM

Thank you for your response

First of all, I'm no way ashame of my father. He is not here anymore(died 2003)

As I mentioned before it came as no surprise for me.

He was born around Flensburg 33 or 34. I know who's my Grandmother but our real Grandfather is unknown. (Have been told she had a short love affairs before my father was born)

And when you was about a given age you became a member of Hitlerjugend either by birth or by some grown-up sign you up.

This thread has also taken a little detour and the discussion about Hitler, if he was good for Germany or not.

For us living so many years after, even those living in Germany, it can be really hard to understand why many of the ordinary German voted for Hitler.

Markus

Betonov · 01-07-15, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

For us living so many years after, even those living in Germany, it can be really hard to understand why many of the ordinary German voted for Hitler.

He was charismatic. He talked about a new Germany when Germany was getting back in it's feet quite nicely. Unfortunately an average voter would put these two things together.

He had a plotted course trough a straight and he convinced the people he was the navigator and should be the captain. He then ran aground after exiting those straights

mapuc · 01-07-15, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

He was charismatic. He talked about a new Germany when Germany was getting back in it's feet quite nicely. Unfortunately an average voter would put these two things together.

He had a plotted course trough a straight and he convinced the people he was the navigator and should be the captain. He then ran aground after exiting those straights

True.
I think one have to look at many different factors like the economy to why many German voted for Hitler.

I remember a sequence from a documentary sent on Danish TV many years ago(Hitler the Attawolf)

The speaker said that many German had an icon of Hitler and was praying to him every night.

That shocked me. I knew that many saw him as a Saviour but as a God !?

Markus

Oberon · 01-07-15, 04:12 PM

Look at people voting for groups like UKIP and the FN in France, it's all part of fear and promises.

Betonov · 01-07-15, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

That shocked me. I knew that many saw him as a Saviour but as a God !?

I know of cases when people prayed to Tito in Yugoslavia.
He always discouraged such behavior, but if you ask me, he enjoyed it.

Betonov · 01-07-15, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Look at people voting for groups like UKIP and the FN in France, it's all part of fear and promises.

Yeah, that UKIP worries me, since I have a plan to move to the UK.

01-06-15, 05:41 PM	#31
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Bread and Circuses. Quite the reversal of the later comments by Goering about guns and butter...although it's always puzzled me how long it took the German industry to switch into wartime mode. I doubt it would have helped them much more if it had switched earlier, certainly might have increased internal pressures, but the odds might have been a smidge more in Germanys favour when it came to Barbarossa, at least for the first year and a half. I sometimes look at the HJ knife I have and I ponder its story, who owned it, what happened to them. Pretty sure they were in either the African theatre in 42-43 or the invasion of France in 1940, and they became a British POW, but that's about all I could guess based upon what I know of my great-grandfathers activities in WWII.

01-07-15, 08:58 AM	#36
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	is inspiring Chaplin to do ''The great dictator'' a good idea ??

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20

01-07-15, 03:53 PM	#40
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Thank you for your response First of all, I'm no way ashame of my father. He is not here anymore(died 2003) As I mentioned before it came as no surprise for me. He was born around Flensburg 33 or 34. I know who's my Grandmother but our real Grandfather is unknown. (Have been told she had a short love affairs before my father was born) And when you was about a given age you became a member of Hitlerjugend either by birth or by some grown-up sign you up. This thread has also taken a little detour and the discussion about Hitler, if he was good for Germany or not. For us living so many years after, even those living in Germany, it can be really hard to understand why many of the ordinary German voted for Hitler. Markus

01-07-15, 04:12 PM	#43
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Look at people voting for groups like UKIP and the FN in France, it's all part of fear and promises.