My father was a member in the Hitlerjugend

mapuc · 01-05-15, 05:53 PM

In Denmark it is a tradition that every 40 years a family tree is made and some genealogist get the job to make this tree

Last time such family tree was made, who was for about 40 years ago and there was not so much about my father, just where he was born and who was his mom.

This genealogist has made a deeper investigation about my father

He found out that my father was a member of this organization

You know it comes as no surprise
He was born in the beginning of the 30's in northern Germany and it was so to say a must to join

If I remember my history correct almost every child over a given age joined this organization

I also remember my father telling me that some of his cousins was in the Kriegsmarine(Graf spee If I remember correctly), Luftwaffe(no pilot)

Markus

Betonov · 01-05-15, 05:57 PM

my parents were Titos pioneers (like a Titojugend in Yugoslavia) and that doesn't make me a communist.

Interesting find, don't think it makes your family bad. They were all involuntarily signed into such organizations.

mapuc · 01-05-15, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

my parents were Titos pioneers (like a Titojugend in Yugoslavia) and that doesn't make me a communist.

Interesting find, don't think it makes your family bad. They were all involuntarily signed into such organizations.

Same here doesn't make me a nazist.

They were all...

That was what I said to my mother. I also said

"Remember he was not a grown-up so some one has.."

Said that this Hitlerjugend was some kind of ideological scout movement.

Markus

Herr-Berbunch · 01-06-15, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Said that this Hitlerjugend was some kind of ideological scout movement.

Given the choice of learning knots and sewing on buttons for a badge or manning a AAA site shooting down (attempting to, at least) enemy aircraft at the age of 11 I know which I would choose. Every time, add highlighting the family for trouble, and the naivety from politics, brutality, and every other negative ideal and that just reaffirms it.

That said, I don't know what other jobs the youths did. They may sway me away. But on the surface, I would have joined. That doesn't make me, my family, and especially my children Nazis. Unless Gudrun Himmler was my daughter, was was just a Nazi through and through.

Schroeder · 01-06-15, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Given the choice of learning knots and sewing on buttons for a badge or manning a AAA site shooting down (attempting to, at least) enemy aircraft at the age of 11 I know which I would choose. Every time, add highlighting the family for trouble, and the naivety from politics, brutality, and every other negative ideal and that just reaffirms it.

That said, I don't know what other jobs the youths did. They may sway me away. But on the surface, I would have joined. That doesn't make me, my family, and especially my children Nazis. Unless Gudrun Himmler was my daughter, was was just a Nazi through and through.

There were lots of different branches. My grandfather for example started in the motorcycle HJ where they could ride actual small cc motorcycles (who could afford that for their children back then?). But he disliked some of the people there so he went to the "flying HJ" and flew SG38 gliders. Again who could afford flying in the 30ies? So in addition to the pressure by the authorities the kids were also definitely motivated to join as they could do things there which were usually way out of their parent's income.

Sailor Steve · 01-06-15, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Yes German motor manufacturers didn't do grand prix racing before hitler.
!934 gave them their best years results in grand prix since their 1931 performance.

I didn't say they did. You asked for one good idea he had. Providing money to those two manufacturers was a good idea. Even if it didn't originate with him, he followed through, making it a good idea he had.

Your serve.

kranz · 01-07-15, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Autobahn projects, planned by the weimar republic.

planned by the weimar republic, executed by the nazis.
Burleigh calls them 'Hitler's autobahns'.

Dan D · 01-05-15, 06:15 PM

That is disgusting, please contact the nearest Center for the Documentation of Nazi crimes in you area as soon as possible.

mapuc · 01-05-15, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D

That is disgusting, please contact the nearest Center for the Documentation of Nazi crimes in you area as soon as possible.

He was about 10-12 years old when the war ended, so I wonder how much war crime he could have committed.

Markus

flostt · 01-05-15, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D

That is disgusting, please contact the nearest Center for the Documentation of Nazi crimes in you area as soon as possible.

either you are trying to be sarcastic... or i don't understand your sense of humor

i actually find your comment quite disgusting as mapuc cannot really be blamed for this, can he ?

There is a difference between the "jugend" and all the other "organisations" during this period.

Schroeder · 01-05-15, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flostt

either you are trying to be sarcastic... or i don't understand your sense of humor

i actually find your comment quite disgusting as mapuc cannot really be blamed for this, can he ?

There is a difference between the "jugend" and all the other "organisations" during this period.

It was sarcastic I'm sure. My grandfather was a member too and he was the son of a commie. They simply had to or would face big problems later when trying to find a job etc.

vienna · 01-05-15, 07:21 PM

In the past, I have known a few people whose parents were in the Jugend and the story is always the same: you joined or faced scrutiny by the Reich. There should be no stigma against those who were forced, almost quite literally at gunpoint, to join. They were just kids and were at the mercy of the whims of the Reich and their families. One girl I knew had a mother who was enrolled in the Jugend. Towards the end of the war, she was stood up in front of an air raid shelter, handed a rifle and ordered to shoot any soldiers who might try to run into the shelter. She didn't have to shoot; a bomb exploded near where she was standing and blew shrapnel into her leg...

The sins of the fathers, indeed...

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01-05-15, 05:53 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	My father was a member in the Hitlerjugend In Denmark it is a tradition that every 40 years a family tree is made and some genealogist get the job to make this tree Last time such family tree was made, who was for about 40 years ago and there was not so much about my father, just where he was born and who was his mom. This genealogist has made a deeper investigation about my father He found out that my father was a member of this organization You know it comes as no surprise He was born in the beginning of the 30's in northern Germany and it was so to say a must to join If I remember my history correct almost every child over a given age joined this organization I also remember my father telling me that some of his cousins was in the Kriegsmarine(Graf spee If I remember correctly), Luftwaffe(no pilot) Markus

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Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That is disgusting, please contact the nearest Center for the Documentation of Nazi crimes in you area as soon as possible. __________________

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	In the past, I have known a few people whose parents were in the Jugend and the story is always the same: you joined or faced scrutiny by the Reich. There should be no stigma against those who were forced, almost quite literally at gunpoint, to join. They were just kids and were at the mercy of the whims of the Reich and their families. One girl I knew had a mother who was enrolled in the Jugend. Towards the end of the war, she was stood up in front of an air raid shelter, handed a rifle and ordered to shoot any soldiers who might try to run into the shelter. She didn't have to shoot; a bomb exploded near where she was standing and blew shrapnel into her leg... The sins of the fathers, indeed... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	my parents were Titos pioneers (like a Titojugend in Yugoslavia) and that doesn't make me a communist. Interesting find, don't think it makes your family bad. They were all involuntarily signed into such organizations.