Opinion! A Phony Hero for a Phony War

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Karle94

No, send me. I`ll talk about my free and open society and they would kill themselves.

Do you mean the terrorists or the innocent civilians?

[Karle94]

Originally Posted by u crank

Do you mean the terrorists or the innocent civilians?

The terrorists, I hope.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Karle94

The terrorists, I hope.

Yea if only that would work.

[Oberon]

Generally speaking, with suicide bombers, killing themselves is part of the problem...

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Generally speaking, with suicide bombers, killing themselves is part of the problem...

Yea. That's the down side of that career path.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by u crank

Yea. That's the down side of that career path.

At least there are 72 virgins...oh, wait, you mean that's only for actual Muslims?

Sorry, Ahab!

http://armedforcesjournal.com/2012/02/8904030

[Red Brow]

Or so the Bible says. Now While I was a Christian for 27 years and a preacher at least 20 of those years, I am not either now. But one thing I clearly saw when I was both, was that the story of Samson reached a critical point when he got angry at being blind (thanks to his foes) and he begs Yahweh (the War God Exodus 15:3) to restore his supernatural strength to his arms so that he can kill his foes.

Essentially Yahweh the War God gives Samson back his great strength, which in the full context of the story is like Yahweh handing Samson a huge load of explosives, and Samson brings down the Philistines temple killing both himself (a suicide abetted by Yahweh) and the rulers and ALL THE PEOPLE there:

"Then Samson prayed to God, "remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes" (Judges 16:28)". "Samson said, 'Let me die with the Philistines!' (Judges 16:30 - note he begs for suicide) He pulled the two pillars together (or possibly pushed them apart), and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more as he died than while he lived." (Judges 16:30)."

Some theologians estimate he killed up to 10,000 men women and children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson

Of course at the moment I view the whole story as make believe, since I am not a Christian anymore.

Isn't it odd how modern Western Christians have a big disconnect with their god approving suicide - especially a terrorist suicide?

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by u crank

Do you mean the terrorists or the innocent civilians?

The problem we have is that each terrorist has a family of innocent civilians who upon his death will want to avenge him and become yet more terrorists.

The only logical solution is the eliminate The Cause that is the reason innocent civilians decide become terrorists in the first place or eliminate all innocent civilians before they become terrorists.

Yea logic sucks sometimes.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

The problem we have is that each terrorist has a family of innocent civilians who upon his death will want to avenge him and become yet more terrorists.

I believe this works both ways though. How many people have become terrorists because innocent members of their family were killed and they want revenge.

The only logical solution is the eliminate The Cause that is the reason innocent civilians decide become terrorists in the first place or eliminate all innocent civilians before they become terrorists.

Yea logic sucks sometimes.

Oh yea it does.