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Gerald 11-18-12 05:08 PM

Opinion! A Phony Hero for a Phony War
 
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FASTIDIOUSNESS is never a good sign in a general officer. Though strutting military peacocks go back to Alexander’s time, our first was MacArthur, who seemed at times to care more about how much gold braid decorated the brim of his cap than he did about how many bodies he left on beachheads across the Pacific. Next came Westmoreland, with his starched fatigues in Vietnam. In our time, Gen. David H. Petraeus has set the bar high. Never has so much beribboned finery decorated a general’s uniform since Al Haig passed through the sally ports of West Point on his way to the White House.
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“What’s wrong with a general looking good?” you may wonder. I would propose that every moment a general spends on his uniform jacket is a moment he’s not doing his job, which is supposed to be leading soldiers in combat and winning wars — something we, and our generals, stopped doing about the time that MacArthur gold-braided his way around the stalemated Korean War.
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And now comes “Dave” Petraeus, and the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts. No matter how good he looked in his biographer-mistress’s book, it doesn’t make up for the fact that we failed to conquer the countries we invaded, and ended up occupying undefeated nations.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/18/op...-war.html?_r=0

Note: November 16, 2012

Cybermat47 11-18-12 05:12 PM

Too true.

For some reason, MacArthur strikes me as being douchey.

the_tyrant 11-18-12 05:16 PM

I always thought the idea was so that the general is protected against assassins with a set of chainmail:O:

But still, its either this or the Genghis Khan model, aka "let him decorate himself with the heads of his enemies"

Karle94 11-18-12 05:27 PM

Should`t Patton fit in there somewhere?

Cybermat47 11-18-12 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Karle94 (Post 1962357)
Should`t Patton fit in there somewhere?

He's busy beating up trauma victims :nope:

u crank 11-18-12 06:03 PM

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THE problem was that he hadn’t led his own Army to win anything even approximating a victory in either Iraq or Afghanistan. It’s not just General Petraeus. The fact is that none of our generals have led us to a victory since men like Patton and my grandfather, Lucian King Truscott Jr., stormed the beaches of North Africa and southern France with blood in their eyes and military murder on their minds.

Those generals, in my humble opinion, were nearly psychotic in their drive to kill enemy soldiers and subjugate enemy nations.
Yea. That's what we need. Even more dead Muslims. :nope:

Karle94 11-18-12 06:12 PM

No, what we need is dead terrorists. Preferably all of them.

u crank 11-18-12 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Karle94 (Post 1962382)
No, what we need is dead terrorists. Preferably all of them.

Right. Agreed. Don't send a General and an army into a Middle East country looking for them and not expect to kill a lot of innocent people.

Red Brow 11-18-12 06:36 PM

Genghis Khan was not a general
 
He was The Great Khan. He had what would be equivalent to generals under him. Obama could be just about anything found from one end of the universe to the other, but he is not The Great Khan. Perhaps a con. He is now my fearless leader thanks to lots and lots of little people.

Sailor Steve 11-18-12 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Brow (Post 1962393)
...lots and lots of little people.

Does this mean you believe you know better than all those "little people"?

Karle94 11-18-12 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 1962389)
Right. Agreed. Don't send a General and an army into a Middle East country looking for them and not expect to kill a lot of innocent people.

No, send me. I`ll talk about my free and open society and they would kill themselves.

u crank 11-18-12 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Karle94 (Post 1962401)
No, send me. I`ll talk about my free and open society and they would kill themselves.

Do you mean the terrorists or the innocent civilians?

Red Brow 11-18-12 07:15 PM

to Sailor Steve
 
The common notion bandied about is that common people, the little people that are not powerful bankers, or rich elites are the ones who determine what guy (or gal) becomes president of the USA. I said I was a Globalists (for some of the reasons I gave - but not all the reasons i.e. the ones I hold back), so yes, a Globalist and over-the-top Zionist. But I didn't say I was stupid.

Karle94 11-18-12 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 1962403)
Do you mean the terrorists or the innocent civilians?

The terrorists, I hope.

u crank 11-18-12 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Karle94 (Post 1962405)
The terrorists, I hope.

Yea if only that would work. :up:


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