A Bunch of Young Lawyers are Suing Their Law Schools Because They Don't Have Jobs

[Stealhead]

Those young lawyers are really screwed all the people that got degrees in cognitive thinking already have the restaurant server and coffee shop barista jobs filled.I wonder if they are really applying for every job requiring a law degree or only the high paying ones that require more experience than they actually have.With all the people suing over something in the US or getting into trouble with the law surely there must be something out there if not apply for jobs that use the skills gained in college/law school.

[GoldenRivet]

Part of the problem is people's unwillingness to relocate.

I would guess a majority of these young lawyers are searching all over the greater NY area for law jobs.

MOVE if the job situation is not satisfactory where you are.

they should have known what they were getting into... of course if the school claimed a percentage of job placement that is terribly exaggerated in order to boost enrollments into an expensive degree program i have to say these new lawyers have a point.

[Stealhead]

Very true in current times being willing to relocate is going to open up the market or at least you are increasing your odds of getting a hit from a possible employer.At the same time you should be a little wary of job placement claims the data on those is always at least a year old even if the data is honest much can change in a year.

I also wonder how many of these lawyers put the feelers out in advance and make contacts while they where in school.

[Platapus]

A co-worker told me that at his University, if a student selected certain majors, the University made them sign a waiver indicating that they accept the fact that there is no guarantee of degree related employment.

Sounds like a good idea. But the School should not have to do this.

When selecting a degree, marketability must be a factor. I know three lawyers and none of them are rich and two of them have always been struggling.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Platapus

When selecting a degree, marketability must be a factor. I know three lawyers and none of them are rich and two of them have always been struggling.

Agreed.

i know a few myself. and the problem has not always been this way though.

now days for every wealthy lawyer you see, there are 100 that are dirt poor in a manner of speaking.

why is it like this? because of market saturation.

in short - people saw lawyers making good money and more people wanted to go into that career field. Now there are more lawyers than jobs so you have a lot of lawyers filling more menial legal positions.

[Schöneboom]

I had to laugh when I saw that article today -- I work at a law firm (records clerk). GR hit it on the head, we have a lawyer glut in this country. In fact a lot of firms routinely hire "contract attorneys", which is just a fancy way to say "temp". Well, if those disgruntled students win their lawsuit, that can be the first thing on their resumes!

Regarding professional schools, they're mostly rackets. I used to temp for a big-time culinary academy that had a huge sales, I mean, admissions dept. These guys in the cubicle farm worked on commission, pitching on the phone all day, painting rosy pictures of limitless opportunities to the poor saps who would go deep into debt to become... cooks. Sorry, I meant "chefs".

Screenwriting, Art College, same deal... People need to wise up about what skills are really needed. They might not be glamorous, but neither is being in debt up to your eyeballs.

If there is a job which is "guaranteed" from a specific course in education then there will be no shortage of employers willing to pay for the tuition fees(or part of) for that.
If there is a specific course where there is even more of a guarantee(terms and conditions apply) due to a big shortage in the market the future employee will not only pay all tuition it will pay accomodation and an allowance too.

If these students didn't realise that then its their own fault.
Unless of course they went to Bubbles school where all the other students are totally stupid so of course wouldn't be able to get a job, and all the teachers don't know anything about law so they couldn't teach the students to be lawyers anyway


So tempting to make a comment about teachers being damn liberals who have no experience of life and repeating that line about how those who can do, those who can't teach...but it wouldn't be nice for poor Sport

[Esanssi]

I wonder if they're representing themselves...

[August]

Originally Posted by Esanssi

I wonder if they're representing themselves...

Then they have fools for clients!

[MH]

Originally Posted by August

Then they have fools for clients!

Maybe...or it might be a good publicity for job

[Herr-Berbunch]

There are plenty of jobs out there for them - teaching gullible people law.

[JSLTIGER]

You know, you guys should really withhold judgment until you're in that position. I am a newly minted attorney in a similar position to these folks in that I am currently unemployed and looking for a position (although I have the "advantage" over them of still being in school for my Masters of Law in Tax).

Although it is arguable, there is a valid case that the school committed fraud by knowingly inflating their employment numbers and implying that the positions which their statistics reflected were in the legal field. I don't think that they're all that crazy for filing this lawsuit based on the info in that article, but I'd need to see everything before actually passing judgement.

The reality of the situation is that the ABA has allowed too many law schools to open because they are cash cows for the institutions that have them, and more and more institutions want them.

[Herr-Berbunch]

I don't think it's just that school, or just that trade - I know of lots of people who've trained to be one thing after being promised, falsely, lots of job availability.

@JLSTIGER - hope you get the job you want

[August]

Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

You know, you guys should really withhold judgment until you're in that position. I am a newly minted attorney in a similar position to these folks in that I am currently unemployed and looking for a position (although I have the "advantage" over them of still being in school for my Masters of Law in Tax).

Although it is arguable, there is a valid case that the school committed fraud by knowingly inflating their employment numbers and implying that the positions which their statistics reflected were in the legal field. I don't think that they're all that crazy for filing this lawsuit based on the info in that article, but I'd need to see everything before actually passing judgement.

The reality of the situation is that the ABA has allowed too many law schools to open because they are cash cows for the institutions that have them, and more and more institutions want them.

No I do sympathize with you. Colleges have been taking peoples money for yeas for training with no care of how difficult it will be for people to get jobs in those fields. Maybe this lawsuit will start a trend toward accountability.

If we have to do it for plumbers and electricians and motorcycle mechanics they should be held to the same standards, especially seeing how much they charge. Our grads leave owing up to 14 grand. I'd image that's only a small percentage of a years tuition at a law school.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I don't think it's just that school, or just that trade - I know of lots of people who've trained to be one thing after being promised, falsely, lots of job availability.

No its not and one should not take adds seriously ...seems the lawyers had learned their trade well though.