A Bunch of Young Lawyers are Suing Their Law Schools Because They Don't Have Jobs

Platapus · 02-16-12, 08:25 PM

A co-worker told me that at his University, if a student selected certain majors, the University made them sign a waiver indicating that they accept the fact that there is no guarantee of degree related employment.

Sounds like a good idea. But the School should not have to do this.

When selecting a degree, marketability must be a factor. I know three lawyers and none of them are rich and two of them have always been struggling.

GoldenRivet · 02-16-12, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

When selecting a degree, marketability must be a factor. I know three lawyers and none of them are rich and two of them have always been struggling.

Agreed.

i know a few myself. and the problem has not always been this way though.

now days for every wealthy lawyer you see, there are 100 that are dirt poor in a manner of speaking.

why is it like this? because of market saturation.

in short - people saw lawyers making good money and more people wanted to go into that career field. Now there are more lawyers than jobs so you have a lot of lawyers filling more menial legal positions.

Schöneboom · 02-16-12, 10:40 PM

I had to laugh when I saw that article today -- I work at a law firm (records clerk). GR hit it on the head, we have a lawyer glut in this country. In fact a lot of firms routinely hire "contract attorneys", which is just a fancy way to say "temp". Well, if those disgruntled students win their lawsuit, that can be the first thing on their resumes!

Regarding professional schools, they're mostly rackets. I used to temp for a big-time culinary academy that had a huge sales, I mean, admissions dept. These guys in the cubicle farm worked on commission, pitching on the phone all day, painting rosy pictures of limitless opportunities to the poor saps who would go deep into debt to become... cooks. Sorry, I meant "chefs".

Screenwriting, Art College, same deal... People need to wise up about what skills are really needed. They might not be glamorous, but neither is being in debt up to your eyeballs.

02-17-12, 03:45 AM

If there is a job which is "guaranteed" from a specific course in education then there will be no shortage of employers willing to pay for the tuition fees(or part of) for that.
If there is a specific course where there is even more of a guarantee(terms and conditions apply) due to a big shortage in the market the future employee will not only pay all tuition it will pay accomodation and an allowance too.

If these students didn't realise that then its their own fault.
Unless of course they went to Bubbles school where all the other students are totally stupid so of course wouldn't be able to get a job, and all the teachers don't know anything about law so they couldn't teach the students to be lawyers anyway

So tempting to make a comment about teachers being damn liberals who have no experience of life and repeating that line about how those who can do, those who can't teach...but it wouldn't be nice for poor Sport

02-16-12, 08:25 PM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	A co-worker told me that at his University, if a student selected certain majors, the University made them sign a waiver indicating that they accept the fact that there is no guarantee of degree related employment. Sounds like a good idea. But the School should not have to do this. When selecting a degree, marketability must be a factor. I know three lawyers and none of them are rich and two of them have always been struggling. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

02-16-12, 10:40 PM	#3
Schöneboom Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 651 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I had to laugh when I saw that article today -- I work at a law firm (records clerk). GR hit it on the head, we have a lawyer glut in this country. In fact a lot of firms routinely hire "contract attorneys", which is just a fancy way to say "temp". Well, if those disgruntled students win their lawsuit, that can be the first thing on their resumes! Regarding professional schools, they're mostly rackets. I used to temp for a big-time culinary academy that had a huge sales, I mean, admissions dept. These guys in the cubicle farm worked on commission, pitching on the phone all day, painting rosy pictures of limitless opportunities to the poor saps who would go deep into debt to become... cooks. Sorry, I meant "chefs". Screenwriting, Art College, same deal... People need to wise up about what skills are really needed. They might not be glamorous, but neither is being in debt up to your eyeballs. __________________ Dietrich Schöneboom, U-431 "Es wird klappen, Herr Kaleun. Ganz sicher."

02-17-12, 03:45 AM	#4
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If there is a job which is "guaranteed" from a specific course in education then there will be no shortage of employers willing to pay for the tuition fees(or part of) for that. If there is a specific course where there is even more of a guarantee(terms and conditions apply) due to a big shortage in the market the future employee will not only pay all tuition it will pay accomodation and an allowance too. If these students didn't realise that then its their own fault. Unless of course they went to Bubbles school where all the other students are totally stupid so of course wouldn't be able to get a job, and all the teachers don't know anything about law so they couldn't teach the students to be lawyers anyway So tempting to make a comment about teachers being damn liberals who have no experience of life and repeating that line about how those who can do, those who can't teach...but it wouldn't be nice for poor Sport