Support the Community - DONT BUY SHV - Page 5

longdog499 · 02-24-10, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by flakmonkey

The silent hunter series IS the community, without a game to congregate around the community ceases to exist, despite any differences we may have with ubi over DRM i think its important we still support the series, after all its all we have!

I, along with many others supported SSI and bought SH1 which presumably encouraged UBI to buy the franchise and publish SHII which in my opinion was a real dog but nevertheless I supported them again by buying SHIII which the modders turned into a classic and encouraged me to support Ubi again by buying the dissapointing SHIV which was again saved by the modding community and convinced me to go for SHV which UBI have now made impossible for me with the DRM/permanent internet connection issue. I feel like a wounded crewman being left behind by his friends becuse he can no longer keep up.

Highbury · 02-24-10, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jerm138

I'm amazed that the moderators tolerate boycott talk like this.

Not that long ago we were all told that it is ok to be against DRM and it is ok to say so, it was however NOT ok to call on the Subsim membership for any form of boycott.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160798

Brag · 02-24-10, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by longdog499

I, along with many others supported SSI and bought SH1 which presumably encouraged UBI to buy the franchise and publish SHII which in my opinion was a real dog but nevertheless I supported them again by buying SHIII which the modders turned into a classic and encouraged me to support Ubi again by buying the dissapointing SHIV which was again saved by the modding community and convinced me to go for SHV which UBI have now made impossible for me with the DRM/permanent internet connection issue. I feel like a wounded crewman being left behind by his friends becuse he can no longer keep up.

We haven't left you behind. Nor all the rest of the people who are hurt by DRM.

Please sign the petition @

No to Ubisoft DRM Petition

jazman · 02-24-10, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Heretic

When a movement starts demanding loyalty tests, that movement has gone off the rails. What started as a consumer education effort has morphed into a jihad. This is no longer a movement to give people information to make an informed buying decision. This is a organized movement to pressure people to comply with their demands and harass and insult those who refuse to knuckle under to their demands. They're bullies, plain and simple, and I'm not going to give in to them.

The OP makes an argument that is novel here. I've seen lots of calls around here to support subsimming by buying the game; this is the first I've seen to support subsimming by NOT buying the game. (What is typical is the call to oppose DRM by not buying the game.) He hasn't introduced any loyalty test, he has just inverted it.

Calling him a bully leading a jihad is just plain silly, and way overblows his stature.

Alex · 02-24-10, 02:25 PM

@ AVG : I sincerely hope you're right, and that what I assumed is wrong.

HundertzehnGustav · 02-24-10, 02:28 PM

in before lock!

... do not temll me what to do... will put me against you, no matter what my stance is on the subject at hand.

support the community by creating mods for SHIII and IV! Or donate to neal!

PL_Andrev · 02-24-10, 02:32 PM

This SH series (and DC I hope) will be developed again if many copies od SH5 is sold...

jazman · 02-24-10, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by flakmonkey

The silent hunter series IS the community, without a game to congregate around the community ceases to exist, despite any differences we may have with ubi over DRM i think its important we still support the series, after all its all we have!

Are those of us who don't buy the new game traitors to the community?

HundertzehnGustav · 02-24-10, 02:36 PM

you cannot support a "series"!

they promise nothing! not even the removal of the online requirement!

and people here are hoping for a DCII "if only "enough" copies are sold?

THIS IS A FEKKN WAKEUP CALL:!
THEY
WANT
YOUR
MONEY
AND
PUT
YOU
ON
A
CHAIN
AND
PROMISE
NOTHING
AT ALL

damn.

but okay, go ahead, waste your hard earned cash.

Highbury · 02-24-10, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

but okay, go ahead, waste your hard earned cash.

Ok I will

I'm sorry me spending my money upsets you so much you have to type in caps. Wait, no I am not.. I feel sorry for people who get so worked up over how other spend their gaming money.

Most popular mantra of the anti-DRM crowd is "I paid for it with my money and don't want them telling me how or when I can use it". Fair enough. So what makes these people feel they can tell us how or where to use our money? "hey pot, this is the kettle. guess what? You're black!"

Méo · 02-24-10, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbografx

This is how I feel.

Why should the community feel some sort of obsessive loyalty to a franchise which:
1. We pay for in the first place.
2. May no longer meet our desires/expectations.
3. Doesn't care about what this community thinks.

1. I don't get what you mean, but 50$ these days for a new game is not that bad.

2. Maybe it's because your desires/expectations are too high for a simulation that can sell around 250 000 copies worldwide as opposed to other game that can sell around 9 000 000...

3. I would like to hear what Neal has to say about it.. when the lead designer posted around 800 posts here (he must be reading too, and at least 2 other members of the dev team are members here), when he assisted to the last 2 subsim meeting, when he gave privileged info to this community. Of course they cannot ONLY please us...

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

When people who are buying a game are compared to people who collaborated with the Nazis, you know something's gone wrong.

Quote:

Choosing to not purchase a $50 consumer product does not make you the moral equivalent of Nelson Mandela.

+1

Méo · 02-24-10, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

... do not temll me what to do... will put me against you

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

you cannot support a "series"!

HundertzehnGustav · 02-24-10, 02:49 PM

Its just a wakeup call afterall.
go ahead, do as you please.
But dont come crying about servers down for gods sake!

j_o_nn_y · 02-24-10, 02:51 PM

Well I bought all the Silent hunter games straight away when they came out. But I am not going to buy this one until people say it is great, can be modded and even then I might not even buy it because of the DRM issue. If people keep on buying these games, Ubisoft will think its been the right move and DRM is going to be here forever with every game you are going to buy from Ubisoft including future Silent Hunter games. This would incourage other games companies to follow suite and so all your future game purchases will have draconian DRM and you will be slaves to always online play where save games get lost. etc. (This is my personal opinion and not because of the first post).

Méo · 02-24-10, 02:54 PM

Don't worry, IF it happens, I'll complain to Ubi, not to you.

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

But dont come crying about servers down for gods sake!

I could tell you not to come crying when there is no U-boat simulation that fits perfectly to your likings..

02-24-10, 02:25 PM	#65
Alex Dominant Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,143 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	@ AVG : I sincerely hope you're right, and that what I assumed is wrong. __________________

02-24-10, 02:28 PM	#66
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	in before lock! ... do not temll me what to do... will put me against you, no matter what my stance is on the subject at hand. support the community by creating mods for SHIII and IV! Or donate to neal! __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

02-24-10, 02:32 PM	#67
PL_Andrev Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 995 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	This SH series (and DC I hope) will be developed again if many copies od SH5 is sold... __________________

02-24-10, 02:36 PM	#69
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	you cannot support a "series"! they promise nothing! not even the removal of the online requirement! and people here are hoping for a DCII "if only "enough" copies are sold? THIS IS A FEKKN WAKEUP CALL:! THEY WANT YOUR MONEY AND PUT YOU ON A CHAIN AND PROMISE NOTHING AT ALL damn. but okay, go ahead, waste your hard earned cash. __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

02-24-10, 02:49 PM	#73
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Its just a wakeup call afterall. go ahead, do as you please. But dont come crying about servers down for gods sake! __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

02-24-10, 02:51 PM	#74
j_o_nn_y Loader Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 85 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Well I bought all the Silent hunter games straight away when they came out. But I am not going to buy this one until people say it is great, can be modded and even then I might not even buy it because of the DRM issue. If people keep on buying these games, Ubisoft will think its been the right move and DRM is going to be here forever with every game you are going to buy from Ubisoft including future Silent Hunter games. This would incourage other games companies to follow suite and so all your future game purchases will have draconian DRM and you will be slaves to always online play where save games get lost. etc. (This is my personal opinion and not because of the first post).